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PLATS & SUBDIVISIONS-
STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE NOVEMBER 4, 1970 7:00 P.M.
Chairman Schmedeke called the meeting to order at 7:04 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Crowder, Schmedeke, Zeglen, Kelshaw, Meissner
None
Darrel Clark, Engineering Assistant
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1. PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT P.S. �C70-04 FIVE SANDS BY FIVE SANDS INC.:
Generally located South of 79th Way, East of East River Road, West of the
railroad tracks and North of 78th Way. (Continued from Oct. 21, 1970)
E1don Schmedeke said he met with the City Engineer today. The reason for
the platting could be said to have been asked by the City inasmuch as it is
much easier to refer to the descriptions for the individual buildings and dedi-
cating easements.
Mr. Fudali explained there are seven lots. There are 295 units planned
for this area. Lot 7 is the recreational lot which will serve all the apart-
ments. An easement will be given for the entire lot. The reason for the zig-
zag lot lines is to conform to the parking requirements of the zoning ordinance.
Outlot B consists of a 60 foot wide strip along the West edge of the
property primarily for ingress and egress for Lot 6. It is easier to describe
an easement as an outlot instead of inetes and bounds description.
Lots 4, 5, 6 and 7 do not front Qn a public road. This was one of the items
which was discussed quite thoroughly by the Engineering Assistant and the City
Attorney. There will be easements over Lots 1, 2, 3 and 4 for ingress and
egress to Lincoln Street and East River Road. Lot 6 has an easement over Outlot
B which goes into Lincoln Street. Lot 5 has a 30 foot easement hooking up with
79th Way going into East River Road.
The reason for the division between Lots 3 and 4 as shown on the proposed
plat is that at tlze present time Five Sands, Incorporated is the fee owner of the
North portion being Lots 1, 2, 3, Outlots A, B and C, and the S. G. Pearson Co.
is owner of Lots 4, 5, 6.
Outlots A and B and Lot 1 are encumbered with FHA mortgages, and the chances
of any of these lots going tax title are extremely remote. The entire property
is torrens title and is described by metes and bounds. The assessments are
$22,000 and Five Sands Inc. expect to pay them off in the spring. The buildings
are being financed individually and will be built individually.
Chairman Schmedeke asked if Mr. Fudali would object to having the easement
south of Stonybrook Creek wider as the 15 feet shown on the proposed plat does
not seem adequate. Darrel Clark said tfiat tfiat was an additional easement
dedicated off the ali.gnment plat. Mr. Fudali said they would hesitate to enlarge
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the easement as it would involve moving one of the proposed buildings.
The Engineering Assistant said that there would be some sort of blanket
easement prepared to show exactly where the utilities are. Mr. James Kurth,
Surveyer for Five Sands, Inc., said that the Northern States Power Co. will pick
up the easements as they go, as they are putting in underground lines. Mr.
Fudali added that they have just signed an agreement with Northern States Power Co.
so that the underground line can be installed at any time.
Referring again to Lot 7, the common recreational area, Mr. Fudali said the
taxes would be on a separate statement. The lot will be in the form of another
restrictive corporation. An easement will be filed on Lot 7 drawn in favor of
all.the rest of the lots. The rest of the lots will contribute 20% of the cost
for upkeep and maintenance to the owner of Lot 7. They are trying to accomplish
several things. Each building will be precisely the same -- the building,
finances, etc. If one building is sold, the occupants still can retain the use
of the recreational facilities, with the new owner being subject to the same
arrangements .
The Engineering Assistant stated that the individual lots would not be
large enough for the structure being built, but the entire tract is large
enough for the entire complex.
The status of Lincoln Street was brought up. Outlot B connects with Lincoln
Street which is 150 feet long and intersects with 79th Way. Mr. Fudali felt that,
as Lincoln Street is not much of a street, they could maintain it, but would like
to have the City plow it. Darrel Clark said that the City has 100 miles to plow
in the winter. It was problematical whether or not this area could be plowed in
time for the people to get to work, and then there was the problem of having the
plow back up on 79th Way.
In answer to the question of drainage, the Engineering Assistant said there
is a drainage easement on the Southwest corner of the proposed plat, the higher
land up in the Northeast corner drains towards East River Road. Water and sewer
will be installed by the developer. There is no problem with sewer and water.
The water system that will be put in by the developer has been approved by the
Fire Department. On the North there will be a 15 foot wide berm between the
garages and 79th Way. The landscaping plan has been approved by the Building
Standards-Design Gontrol Subeommittee and :the Council. ,Mr. Schmedeke suggested
evergreens be considered.
The interior streets will not be as wide as the City streets. He continued,
that after meeting with Mr. Juster, they felt there were more benefits to the
City with regard to the concept than detriments. If this were a residential
area, it would be different, but this land is worth thousands of dollars per
acre and therefore, is not anything someone would want to go tax forfeit.
It is hoped that some day 79th Way will continue across the railroad tracks.
The area south of the proposed plat is developed. They did not feel it was
necessary for access to the other side of the tracks for the people in the con-
cept and in this case, there is no reason to want to get from East River Road to
the tracks.
The problems of the interior easements should be approved by the City
Attorney, the utilities be approved by the Administration and the City. They
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are pretty well set on driveway easements. Utilities have been discussed.
MOTION by Meissner, seconded by Kelshaw, that the Plats & Subdi visions-
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee recommend approval of the proposed preliminary
p.Zat, P.S. #70-04, Five Sands, by the Five SandS�Incorporated being a repZat of
Block 2, Pearson's lst Addition and Parcel 8400, as described in the application
request and public hearing notice to be heard before the Planning Commission
tonight with the stipulations that the interior easement for utilities, sewer,
streets and water, be considered for approval by the City Administration. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT :
There being no further business, Chairman Schmedeke adjourned the meeting
at 7:55 P.M.
Re�spectfully submitted
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Haz" 0'Brian
Recording Secretary