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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLATS � SUBDIVISIONS-
STREETS � UTILITIES SUBCOI�A�IITTEE MEETING MAY 23, 1973 PAGE 1
CALL TO ORDER:
Acting Chairman Meissner called the meeting to order at 7:05 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Meissner, French, Forster, Christensen
Members Absent: Harris
Others Present: Darrel Clark, Community Development Administrator
APPROVE PLATS �, SUBDIVISIONS-STREETS F� UTILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES:
MAY 23, 1973
MOTION by French, seconded by Christensen, that tlie P.Zats & Sub-
divisions-Streets & Utilities Subcommittee minutes of May 23, 1973 be
approved as written. Upon a voice vote, a1Z voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously.
1. CONTINUED: REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT: L.S. #73-05, BERNARD JULKOWSKI:
Split off part of Lot 6 and 7, Auditor's Subdivision No. 153, to
develop land either multiple or commercial.
Mr. Bernard Julkowski was present. Also-present aaere Mr. Jack �etzel,
District Supervisor for �tob�rt �all, and _Mr� J. Klava, Mana�er. of Robert
Hall in Fridley.
Mr. Meissner said this item had been continued to allow time to notify
the adjacent property owners of the proposed lot split.
Mr. Darrel Clark said the apartment complex that adjoins this property
has changed ownership several times. The present owner is having a parking
problem and has requested the City to remove the 'no parking' signs on 52nd
Avenue N.E. so there will be room for visitor parking.
Mr. Clark said this parcel has been split off by the County for real
estate taxes, but the City doesn't honor the lot split and will not split
assessments or issue a building permit until the City Council approves
the lot split.
Mr. Julkowski said that when he built the apartment complex nine years
ago, it did meet all the codes. He said one of the owners is in the hospital
and he had just visited him there tonight. He said there is an interest in
buying this parcel, but there haven't been any serious negotiations. He said
he has held on to this property for nine years and has been unable to do any
thing with it, and he didn't want to hold onto it for another nine years while
the apartment owners decide if they will purchase it for additional parking.
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Mr. Clark said Mr. Julkowski was correct when he said the apartment
complex met all the codes at th� time it was built in 1964. If the apartment
owners are having problems providing parking, they will.soon be having a
problem renting their units.
Mr. Meissner asked how wide 52nd Avenue was. Mr. Clark said he thought
it was 30 feet. Mr. Meissner wondered if parking could be allowed on one side
of the street during certain hours. Mr. Clark said that according to the City
Code, off-street parking should be provided.
Mr. Clark said We have been discouraging this lot split because we have
felt additional garking areas are needed for the apartment complex.
Mr. Julkowski said that in 1964 he had a permit to construct 16 more
units on this parcel, but due to financing, he didn't construct them. Now
with the different requirements, he could only built 8 to 10 units on this
parcel.
Mr. Meissner asked Mr. Julkowski if he had any plans for this parcel.
Mr. Julkowski said he couldn't make any plans until he had the lot split.
He said he could sell the land to the apartment complex.
Mr. Clark said if Mr Julkowski did utilize this parcel and put a fence
around it, the apartment complex would have even a bigger problem, because they
do park some cars, on occasion, on this parcel now.
Mr. Julkowski said he has had property for nine years he �asn't been
able to use. He said it shouldn't have to be his consideration that the
apartment complex has parking probiems.
Mr. Clark said the parcel Mr. Julkowski wants to split off was 27,240
square feet so it is large enough to be built upon in commercial zoning.
Mr. Christensen asked who owned the property West of this parcel. Mr.
Julkowski said it belonged to Robert Hall. Mr. Getzel and Mr. Klava said they
had no objection to this lot split. They said if Mr. Julkowski should need
additional land to construct something on this parcel, he probably could
purchase some from Robert Hall. Mr. Clark said Robert Hall would have to
keep enough property so they met the zoning requirements.
�r: Clark said if Mr. Julkowski should want to build apartments on this
parcel, he would have to rezone to R-3. The apartment complex should be
rezoned to R-3 at the same time because they are now a legal non-conforming use.
Mr. Meissner said nothing could be built on this parcel until the lot
split is approved.
MOTION by French, seconded by Christensen, that the Plats & Subdivisions-
Streets & Utilites Subcommittee recommend to the PZanning Commission approval
of the request for a 1ot split, L.S. #73-05, b� Bernard Julkowski, to split
off part of Lot 6 and 7, Auditor's Subdivision No. 153, to develop the land
either commercial or multiple. Upon a voice vote, a1Z voting aye, fhe motion
carried unanimously.
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2. VACATION REQUEST: SAV #73-10, ROGER CHRISTENSON: Vacate 30 foot road
easement on Lot i and the North 25 feet of Lot 2, Block 6, Rice Creek
Plaza South Addition, to use for a parking lot for a proposed school bus
garage.
Mr. Roger Christenson and his attorney, Mr. Carl Newquist, were present.
Mr. Newquist said Mr. Christenson is the present owner of the Fridley
Bus Service. He provides bus service for the Elementary, Junior High and
Senior High Schools. His family has provided this service for 35 years.
They are presently located next to City Hall but because this property is
changing ownership, he has to look for other quarters. The property he wants
to relocate on is zoned M-1. The proposed building will be large enough to
.- park all the buses inside. The entrance is located on the lot so some large
trees can be preserved in the front of the building to provide screening.
This property borders Locke Lake and we will be able to make use of the existing
trees to screen the building from the natural area along the Lake.: There is
a 30 foot North Suburban Sanitary Sewer District easement along the West end
of the property, plus the thirty foot road easement. The combination of the
two easements will give us 60 feet on the West side of the building.
Mr. Meissner asked if the only access to the property was Main Street
at the Rice Creek Terrace intersection.
Mr. Newquist said the driveway would be adjacent to the South property
line. It would be at the Main Street & Rice Creek intersection.
Mr. Christensen asked if there was any possibility of the service road
being put in on the Burlington right of way.
Mr.. Clark said as the area develops, he would think that the service
drive would be put in.
Mr. French said this property is at the end of the proposed service
drive, so when it is put in, they would still have access to it.
Mr. Clark said the City owns the land on the North side of the Creek.
There are no plans to build a bridge across this Creek.
Mr. Christensen said it looks like the property line of Lot 1 goes right
up to Rice Creek. Mr. Clark said the North ldt line of this property is the
Creek. -
Mr. Christensen asked if Mr. Christenson owned the North 25 feet of Lot 2.
Mr. Newquist said he has a purchase agreement on this property. Mr. Meissner
said we can anticipate a lot split if this proposal goes through.
Mr. Meissner asked who owned the property to the South of this property.
Mr. Clark said Designware owns lots 2 through 7.
Mr. Clark said that before a building permit was issued the Citg..would
want to see a plan for a walkway along the Creek. There is a storm sewer
betraeen the proposed building and Main Street that runs North and South. We
should have an easement granted for this starm sewer.
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Mr. Meissner asl�ed if the proposed building met all the setback require-
ments. Mr. Clark said there were pending variances. One was for a side yard
variance for 25 feet instead of 30 feet and a five foot variance for parking.
' � Mr. Christensen asked if they could park on the Sanitary Sewer easement.
'i - -------.-Mr.- Clark said it was allowed to have parking on an easement. Minnegasco has
an easement on the proposed street right of way which would have to be retained,
but they can park on this easement also. -�
Mr. Newquist asked if they could formally apply for a lot split at this
time. Mr. Clark said the reason for obtaining the 25 feet of Lot 2 was so
- that the building could be located as far away from the Creek as possible.
Mr. Meissner asked the petitioner if he was willing to consider an easement
for the walkway. Mr. Christenson said this would be no problem at all.
Mr..Christenson said there was a lot of brush along the Creek but he was
sure a walkway could be put in. Mr. Newquist said they intended to retain all
the growth in this area to help screen the building from the Creek.
Mr. Meissner said as this is the most Northerly lot on the road easement
there would be no problems created by vacating this easement.
MOTION by French, seconded by Forster, that the P1ats & Subdivisions-
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee recommend to the Planning Commission approval
of vacation request, SAV #73-10, by Roger Christenson, to vacate the 30 foot
road easement on Lot 1, and the North 25 feet of Lot 2, Block 6, Rice Creek
P1aza South Addition, to use for a parking lot for a proposed school bus
-------qa�age,-and approval of-the-Lot-Sp1it for the North-25 feet of Lr�t 2, with
the stipuZations that the City retain the existing storm sewer easement, retain
the utility easement on the road easement, and the administration and the
petitioner agree to an easement for a walkway along the Creek.
Mr. Christensen asked that it be added to the motion that an a11-out
effort be made to use the service drive, when it is put in, as an entrance
and exit, instead of Main Street.
Upon a voice vote, Meissner, French, and Forster voting aye, Christensen,
nay. The motion carried.
Acting Chairman Meissner adjourned the meeting at 8:05 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Dorothy Ev son, Secretary
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Mr. Meissner asked if the proposed buildinq met all the setback r�quire-
ments. Mr. Clark said there were pending variances. One was for a side yard
variance for 25 feet instead of 30 feet and a five foot variance for parkinq.
Mr. Christensen asked if they could park on the Sanitary Sewer ea�ement.
Mr. Clark said it was allowed to have parking on an easement. Minnegasco has
an easement on the proposed street right of way which would have to be�retained,
but they can park on this easement also. �
Mr. Newquist asked if they could formally apply for a lot split at this
time. Mr. Clark said the reason for obtaining the 25 feet of Lat 2 was so
that the building could be located as far away from the Creek as possible.
Mr. Meissner asked the petitioner if he was willing to consider an easement
for the walkway. Mr. Christenson said this would be no problem at all.
Mr. Christenson said there was a lot of brush along the Creek but he was
sure a walkway could be put in. Mr. Newquist said they intended to retain all
the growth in this area to help screen the building from the Creek.
Mr. Meissner said as this is the most Northerly lot on the road easement
there would be no problems created by vacating this easement.
MOTION by French, seconded by Forster, that the Plats & Subdivisions-
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee recommend to the Planning Commission approval
of vacation request, SAV #73-10, by Roger Christenson, to vacate the 30 foot
road easemenf on Lot 1, and the North 25 feet of Lot 2, Block 6, Rice Creek
Plaza South Addition, to use for a parking 1ot for a proposed school bus
garage, and approval of the Lot Split for the North 25 feet of Lot 2, with
the stipulations that the City retain the existing storm sewer easement, retain
the utility easement on the road easement,�.and the administration and the
petitioner agree to an easement for a walkway along the Creek.
Mr. Christensen asked that it be added to the motion that an all-out
effort be made to use the service drive, when it is put in, as an entrance
and exit, instead of Main Street.
Upon a voice vote, Meissner, French, and Forster voting aye, Christensen,
nay. The motion carried.
Acting Chairman Meissner adjourned the meeting at 8:05 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Dorothy Ev on, Secretary
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