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CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOIIBING & REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY MEETING, OCTOHER il� 1990
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CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Schnabel called the October 11, 1990, Housing and
Redevelopment Authority meeting to order at 7:10 p.m.
ROLL CALL•
Members Present: Virginia Schnabel, Duane Prairie, John Meyer
Members Absent: Larry Commers, Walter Rasmussen
Others Present: Jock Robertson, Executive Director of HRA
Virgil Herrick, City and HRA Attorney
Paul Hansen, Accountant
Jim Casserly, Development Consultant
Jerry Brill, representing Ashland oil/Rapid Oil
Doug Erickson, Fridley Focus
APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 13 1990. HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MINUTES•
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to approve the
September 13, 1990, Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes as
written.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTINa AYE, VICL-CHAIRPER80N SCHNABEL
DECLAR�D THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
ESTIMATES•
1. TALBERG LAWN & LANDSCAPE (LAKE POINTE):
MOTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to approve the
payment to Talberg Lawn & Landscape in the amount of $4,458.22.
IIPON A DOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON BCHNABEL
DECLARTsD T8E MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOIISLY.
2. R NELSON ENGINEERING (SOUTHWEST 4UADRANT 5TORMWATER);
Mr. Robertson stated this estimate is in connection with the
corporation which is looking seriously at the southwest quadrant.
City staff wanted to furnish information to this corporation on
how this stormwater should be handled and the approximate costs.
This information was completed satisfactorily by R. Nelson
Engineering, and staff recommends approval.
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O�I TION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to approve the
payment to R. Nelson Engineering in the amount of $1,800.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERBON BCHNABEL
DECLARED T8E MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
3. CLAIMS (2066-2075):
MOTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to approve the check
register as presented.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPER80N BCHNABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
Mr. Hansen stated that regarding tax increment revenue return to
the school districts, the HRA wanted staff to start working on this
in the fall. However, they are going to have to wait until after
the general election because the four school districts are
attempting to pass referendums. He stated staff will try to have
something prepared for the November meeting.
4. STATUS OF THE CORRECTIVE ACTION (CLEAN-UP) AT 57TH PLACE:
/'� Mr. Robertson stated staff received a copy of the letter the MPCA
sent to the previous owner of the Rapid Oil Company. After
receiving the letter, he contacted Delta Environmental who referred
him to Art Newby, the Consulting Engineer for Ashland Oil Company.
Mr. Newby told him they had been working on this for about one
month. There is some detailed testing work which will determine
th f' 1 number and location of both the withdrawal wells and the
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monitoring wells. Mr. Newby estimates it will take about one more
month for the detailed work to be completed. Mr. Newby also
estimates the clean-up program, once commenced, may take from 5-10
years.
Mr. Robertson stated he believed it will probably be about another
month before anyone will know what the site constraints are while
the contaminated water is being pumped from the recovery wells.
Mr. Robertson stated there is going to be an aeration operation in
addition to the separation tank, and the City might want to know
how large the tank is and if it can be removed and put off to the
side of the site so that the site can be redeveloped while the
withdrawal is going on. He will ask this question of Mr. Newby.
Mr. Robertson stated he has also asked Mr. Virgil Herrick to
contact the Assistant AG for the Petro Board to give the City an
update on what the City's legal liability may be if they were to
^ proceed to acquire the site for redevelopment while the treatment
and cleanup is going on.
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Mr. Herrick stated he was unable to contact the Assistant AG, but
he did sufficient research to answer these questions. He stated
there is no question that if the HRA becomes owner of the property,
under the state and federal law, it would be determined that the
HRA is the responsible party. However, in this case, because
Ashland Oil is a substantial corporation and because their
liability would be primary to the HRA's, the practical effect of
that legal liability would not be great. As the HRA is aware,
there is a state fund that refunds up to 90� of the costs of
treatment, and that would apply to anyone who has to expend money
for treatment. In the first instance, the refund would to go
Ashland Oil for whatever they e�end. If the HRA acquired the
property and expended money in the future, the HRA, too, would be
eligible for the 90� reimbursement. There is a total limit on each
site of $250,000.
Mr. Herrick stated there is another factor that the HRA ought to
keep in mind. That is: If the HRA acquired title and did not have
a developer in hand, then the HRA might have to give some thought
to whether this pollution problem would be an obstacle as far as
getting financing for any future development. Usually in these
cases, the financial institutions want to check with the PCA to see
what the problem is and what is being done about it, but financial
institutions also universally require that a developer issue some
,� sort of a hold harmless agreement as far as the financial
institution is concerned. If the HRA has a strong developer
financially, then they can do this by way of an indemnity agreement
or letter of credit or whatever the financial institution requires.
If they have a developer that is not financially strong, then the
HRA might have a problem, and this could be an additional hurdle
for some developer to get financing. The safest approach would be
to have a development agreement in hand and to make sure the
developer has secured financing before the HRA considers acquiring
the property. But, if, for whatever reason, the HRA feels they
have to or want to acquire the property without having a developer
in hand, they then have this additional consideration.
Mr. Jerry Brill stated Ashland Oil has requested a rezoning for
the purpose of redoing the Rapid Oil facility. This all depends,
however, on the outcome of the concerns about pollution and the
City's interest in the property. Rapid Oil is quite anxious to do
something with this property to make it a more economically viable
business. As far as the clean-up, Ashland Oil has never tried to
duck their responsibility and they will do their part.
5. STATUS OF WINFIELD PROPOSAL FOR 57TH PLACE REDEVELOPMENT:
Mr. Robertson stated that at the last meeting, HRA was shown an
outline of a development agreement prepared by Jim Casserly that
� was forwarded to Winfield at the end of August. He spoke to Mr.
Bubany, who said he did not wish to proceed until his primary
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financing is lined up and until the extent of the pollution is
known.
Mr. Robertson stated he then met with Bill Fogerty, who informed
him that the major anchor tenant, Crosstown Bank, is now uncertain
whether they wish to proceed with a branch bank at this location.
Mr. Robertson stated Mr. Fogerty stated he wanted to proceed with
the project on his own. Mr. Fogerty verbally outlined the
following counter-proposal and said he would follow up with a
written proposal.
1. HRA would acquire the Rapid Oil site through
condemnation.
2. Fogerty, in addition to the duplex which he acquired two
years ago, would also acquire the garage and empty land
behind it.
3. Fogerty would continue to pay taxes on the land he owns
plus pay the taxes and interest on the Rapid Oil site at
the same rate that is being paid today.
4. In exchange, the HRA would grant him exclusive right to
develop the property for the next five years. The City
,� would not establish the TIF district or rebuild the
streets and utilities until such time as the developer
is ready to proceed.
Mr. Robertson stated he has not yet received a written counter-
proposal from Mr. Fogerty.
Mr. Robertson stated he and Mr. Casserly conclude that they really
do not have an experienced developer at this time for this specific
proposal. What they have is a would-be developer with a desire to
proceed, but who does not have a tenant who has made a location
decision. He stated he believes it is in the HRA's best interest
to seek another developer.
Mr. Robertson stated that several months ago, staff presented the
North Gateway Redevelopment Plan. One possibility would be to
consider using the Rapid Oil site as an extension of the housing
development which is being considered for the Phase II property
directly to the north. So, rather than create a 2 1/2 acre
redevelopment site for commercial, they would look at the existing
street and utility pattern and see what could be put on this site
in terms of residential as part of the whole residential
alternative being explored by staff. Residential would start right
at 57th Avenue and go north to the Alanon building. That would
provide a larger mass of redevelopment land for residential that
might make the project more attractive for a residential developer.
� With the HRA's permission, staff will analyze this alternative for
the Rapid oil site.
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6. STATUS OF RIGHT-OF-WAY ACOUISITION FOR MISSISSIPPIf UNIVERSITY
AVENUE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS IN 1991:
Mr. Robertson stated the City has petitioned Anoka County to
contract for intersection improvements on Mississippi Street on
both sides of University Avenue for the 1991 construction season.
He wanted to emphasize that the Council has not confirmed
proceeding with the Mississippi Street project.
Mr. Robertson stated that if the Council confirms the improvements
and wants to proceed, staff then has to look at acquiring the Dairy
Queen in November when the season is over. There is a remote
possibility the Dairy Queen will fit into the Fridley Town Square
project on the old 10,000 Auto Parts site. Mr. Fitch, owner of the
Dairy Queen, has been talking with Mr. Scott Erickson about this
possibility. Staff hopes to have some form of commitment for the
HRA to consider at the November meeting. In the meantime, Teri
Mau, owner and operator of the beauty parlor and tanning salon in
the Levy building, which the HRA recently purchased, has expressed
interested in moving into the new Fridley Town Square shopping
center if the project proceeds. She has asked the HRA to consider
a trade-off where, instead of paying rent for a year, she would use
that rent money to pay off her business loan and that would be
r� deducted from her relocation entitlement.
Mr. Robertson stated, again, until they know for sure whether the
Fridley Town Square project will proceed, this item is moot.
Obviously, the first step is to determine if the Fridley Town
Square project will proceed.
Ms. Schnabel stated that if nothing is done with the Levy building
before the Fridley Town Square project, then none of the tenants
in the Levy building will be entitled to any relocation.
Mr. Robertson stated that is correct. What they have to consider
is that this is a Fridley business and this would be a chance for
this business to stay in operation in Fridley. That is a less
measurable attribute, but none the less an attribute.
Ms. Schnabel stated that is a real precedent setting issue, and
she is not sure the HRA should get into this kind of situation.
If one tenant is given special consideration, then every tenant
could ask for the same thing.
Mr. Robertson stated there are a lot of variables here. He stated
Ms. Mau approached the staff with this offer, and he wanted to make
the HRA aware of it. Ms. Mau is aware that staff cannot even
evaluate it until they know more about the schedule for the
^ northeast quadrant.
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Ms. Schnabel stated this kind of deal would also have an affect on
the HRA's relationship with Jim Kordiak as the manager of Rice
Plaza, since Mr. Kordiak is entitled to 5� of the rent.
Mr. Meyer stated the only way the HRA can give Ms. Mau relocation
monies or any implication of it would be if the Levy building is
going to be taken for redevelopment.
7. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Springbrook Apartments
Mr. Robertson stated City staff has been approached by the
owners of Springbrook Apartments, University Avenue
Associates. As the HRA remembered, at the August 1990
meeting, the HI2A passed a one year extension of the HRA's
subordination agreement of the HRA's second mortgage. They
have now approached the City with a proposal for a ten year
mortgage through John Hancock Insurance Agency.
Mr. Robertson stated he has asked Mr. Casserly to look at this
proposal because the financing proposed by the John Hancock
Insurance Agency is a bit unusual in that there is an assumed
growth in the final value and selling price of the project
� from $16 million to $21 million. There is a certain amount
of risk associated with this, and he would like Mr. Casserly
to explain this a little further.
Mr. Casserly stated that, as he understood it, Springbrook
Apartments is still operating with its construction financing.
University Avenue Aasociates have concerns with the problems
of S& L's and take-out financing, so they have been doing a
lot of work to find a permanent lender for their project.
John Hancock Insurance Agency has made them a very interesting
proposal. As he understood the proposal, what often happens
with an insurance company or a lender is they want to have
some equity participation. This financing is not that kind
of an arrangement. What is happening is that the project has
a$14 million construction loan against it. The project is
worth around $16-18 million. Apparently, John Hancock
Insurance Agency would allow University Avenue Associates to
reimburse themselves, the developer, for all of the costs they
had during lease-up. He is assuming there is a lot of other
fees in the project (almost $2 million) they have never been
able to take out. So, the mortgage company would actually
allow them to take $16 million of financing against the
project. If they take out the construction loan of $14
million, they would have $2 million left over for the other
expenses.
�� Mr. Casserly stated if it was just that arrangement, it
probably would not be too much of a problem. The problem is
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that the HRA has a second mortgage for $850,000, and they
cannot place permanent financing on the project without
dealing with the HRA's second mortgage. As soon as they pay
off the construction mortgage, the HRA's mortgage moves up to
# 1. And, anyone who f inances the proj ect wants to be in f irst
position. So, no matter who they finance with, University
Avenue Associates is going to have to have to ask for
subordination again from the HRA. This would not be unusual,
and this was originally what the HRA had bargained for.
Mr. Casserly stated this is really interesting, because
instead of putting a$16 million mortgage on the property,
the day they close the financing, it is a$22 million
mortgage. At the end of ten years, the developer has to sell
the project or refinance it to pay off the $22 million
mortgage. During the ten years, no principal is being paid
at all--only interest. It is what is called a"reverse
amortization", where the interest is not decreased; it is
increased. Essentially, they would have a$22 million debt,
and the HRA would stand behind the $22 million. In theory,
they are really only paying on $16 million, because the
balance they owe is increasing each year. At the end of ten
years, they would pay off the HRA and do something with the
project to pay off John Hancock Insurance Agency.
Mr. Robertson stated the original payment schedule for the
HRA's mortgage payment will stay the same.
Mr. Casserly stated the developer is looking favorably at this
kind of financing, and will be back with a proposal to the
HRA.
b. Fridley Auto Mall Project
Mr. Robertson stated the HRA considered a request for tax
increment assistance to the Fridley Auto Mall on 73 1/2
Avenue/University. At that time, the HIZA was quite skeptical
about the project, as was the Council. The Council is now
considering an alternative way to assist the project and get
some surplus City land back on the tax rolls.
Mr. Robertson stated the City Council will be holding a public
hearing on Monday, October 15, 1990, to consider declaring
that land surplus. There is a provision in the State Statute
that as an alternative to turning the land back to the State
Commissioner of Revenue which the City would normally do, the
City can also give the land to the HRA for redevelopment
purposes. This is what the Council will be considering at
this public hearing. Essentially, they will be asking the HRA
^ to be a conduit so the land can be sold directly to the
� developer at a negotiable price, rather than having the land
' turned over to the Commissioner of Revenue and purchased back
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at market price. If the Council approves this option, then
he will be working with Virgil Herrick on the necessary
administrative procedures for using the HRA as a conduit for
this surplus land.
ADJOURNMENT:
Vice-Chairperson Schnabel declared the October 11, 1990, Housing
and Redevelopment Authority meeting adjourned at 8:10 p.m.
Respectfully s mitted,
L Saba
Recording Secretary
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