HRA 09/12/1991 - 29624�"�
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOIISING & REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY MEETING, SEPTEMBER 12, 1991
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CALL TO ORDER•
Chairperson Commers called the September 12, 1991, Housing &
Redevelopment Authority meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL•
Members Present: Larry Commers, Virginia Schnabel, John Meyer,
Jim McFarland
Members Absent: Duane Prairie
Others Present: Barbara Dacy, Community Development Director
Paul Hansen, Accountant
Don Fitch, Fridley Dairy Queen
Dave Newman, Attorney for Bob's Produce
Michael Schroer, Bob's Produce, 7620 University
Dennis Rens, Fridley School District #14
APPROVAL OF AUGUST 8, 1991, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
^ MINUTES•
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to approve the
August 8, 1991, Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes as
written.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COMMER3 DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOII3LY. °
l. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF SECOND MORTGAGE SATISFACTION FOR
FRIDLEY P�AZA OFFICE BUILDING:
Mr. Commers stated the HRA has received a memo from Mr. Burns
relative to negotiations that have been ongoing with respect to
the amount of the second mortgage that currently exists with the
Fridley Plaza Office Building. It is staff's recommendation
that, although neither the staff or the HRA are too happy about
this under these circumstances, the HRA approve the satisfaction
of the second mortgage for the Fridley Plaza Office building.
Mr. McFarland asked if there are any personal guarantees on this
property.
Mr. Hoeft stated that in checking the files, he did not believe
there are any notes or personal guarantees.
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Mr. Commers stated that Mr. McFarland brings up a good point. If
they approve the second mortqage satisfaction now before knowing
for sure if there are any guarantees, will there be any problem?
Mr. Hoeft stated, no, the HRA would not be compromising any
guarantee rights by approving the second mortgage satisfaction.
Mr. Commers stated that legal counsel will be able to find that
out within a couple of days, and maybe the HRA should approve the
second mortgage satisfaction contingent upon being satisfied that
either there are no personal guarantees; or, if there are, this
does not foreclose or cause any problems in pursuing the original
managers on any guarantees that might exist.
Mr. Hoeft stated he should know this for certain by September 17
or 18.
Ms. Dacy stated the City will not record the mortgage satis-
faction until the check is received.
Mr. Meyer asked what kind of precedent this sets for any other
second mortgage positions that the HRA has.
Mr. Hoeft stated he thought that the circumstances in this case,
^ the way the mortgagee's interest was bought out in that
transaction and in relation to the rest of the HRA's ongoing
projects, is something that will probably not happen again.
Regarding any other second mortgage position, when the HRA goes
into that position, the HRA has to know that it is either taking
that secondary position or re-enforcing that position through
some outside guarantees of individuals or partnerships or
corporations.
Mr. Commers stated that just because they do something, does not
mean they have to do it again. Each decision made by the HRA is
independent, and by doing this they are not intending to set a
precedent for anyone else.
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Mr. McFarland, to approve the
satisfaction of the second mortgage for the Fridley Plaza Office
building upon receipt of a check in the amount of $17,500, and
contingent upon being satisfied that either there are no personal
guarantees; or, if there are, this does not foreclose or cause
any problems in pursuing the original managers on any guarantees
that might exist.
Ms. Schnabel stated she is very unhappy about this situation. It
is very unfortunate that the HRA has to face this kind of
situation, and she is very unhappy that these next door neighbors
expect the HRA to capitulate on the second mortgage. It bothers
�'1 her because of the HRA's position and because of the HRA's help
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initially in the construction of the building. She stated she
will vote against this motion.
Mr. Commers stated there is truth to Ms. Schnabel's statements,
and this is something the HRA should keep in mind as they are
approached about taking second mortgage positions in other
projects.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� COMMERS, MEYER, AND�MCFARLAND VOTING AYE,
SCHNABEL VOTING NAY� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED ON A 3-1 VOTE.
2. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND LEASE
AGREEMENT WITH DON FITCH, FRIDLEY DAIRY 4UEEN:
Mr. Commers stated that a memo from Barbara Dacy dated September
6, 1991, outlines some suggested changes to the lease. At the
meeting, the HRA received an updated list of changes.
Mr. Dacy stated that in the hand-out at the meeting, items 1, 2,
3, 4, and 6 are suggested changes that staff recommends the HRA
consider approving. The items of most concern are items 5, 7,
and 8.
^ Mr. Commers stated that regarding the heating, ventilation, and
air conditioning, does the HRA have the right to elect not to
- replace them if they quit working and then terminate the lease?
Ms. Dacy stated that has been discussed at length with Mr. Fitch.
Staff is proposing that he would be responsible for any or all
repairs. However, as far as any replacement of items, the only
items the HRA would be replacing would be the furnace or air
conditioner.
Mr. Commers stated the rent the HRA is charging would not make it
feasible to replace a furnace or air conditioner. If one of
these items malfunctions and the HRA is not in an economic
position to replace that furnace or air conditioner, the HRA
should be able to elect to either continue the lease or terminate
the lease.
Ms. Dacy stated the HRA'can do that if they choose. Because the
Dairy Queen is a seasonable business, the furnace has not been
used too much; and she understood from Mr. Fitch that the air
conditioner is in good condition. During the course of the
negotiations, it was agreed that Mr. Fitch will be responsible
for rent, utilities, taxes, ground maintenance, equipment repair,
but he has requested that he not be responsible for the furnace
or air conditioner.
^ Mr. Commers asked if someone can inspect the furnace and air
_ conditioner to see what condition they are in. If they are in
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good condition, then he would assume there shouldn't be any big
problems and they can take the risk for the next 1 1/2 years.
Mr. Fitch stated the air conditioner is only 10 years old and the
furnace is 15 years old, so both are relatively new. He stated
he is not opposed to having someone from the City inspect the air
conditioner and furnace.
Mr. Fitch stated he can delete item 5. In Paragraph 11 of the
lease, he was requesting that the phrase beginning with the word
"caused" be deleted. He believed that if, in the extreme case,
one of his employees is killed as a result of the HRA's action to
repair, he should not sign away his right to sue the HRA. He
stated that in talking with the HRA's legal counsel, his concerns
have been satisfied.
Ms. Dacy stated the item that needs to be discussed is item 7,
regarding insurance coverage on the building. When the HRA took
title to the property at the end of July, the Dairy Queen
property was added as a temporary binder on the current policy
the HRA has with Rice Plaza. However, the insurance agent
notified staff that because the Dairy Queen is a seasonal
operation, they will not carry that particular building. An
annual policy will cost the HRA about $800, with a$5,000
^ deductible. Mr. Fitch wants to continue his current building
policy, but his policy would be amended to name both the HRA and
himself as insured. The deductible on the policy would be $250.
That leaves an extra cost of $500 for the insurance, and Mr.
Fitch is proposing that the HRA split that cost on a 50/50 basis.
Ms. Dacy stated the temporary binder expires at midnight on
Friday, September 13, 1991, so they would have to proceed with a
pro-rated cost for the remainder of this year plus 1992. It is
significantly cheaper to go along with Mr. Fitch's suggestion.
Mr. Commers asked Mr. Hoeft if he had looked at Mr. Fitch's
policy.
Mr. Hoeft stated he had not yet had a chance to look at the
policy. He will review the policy and make sure the HRA is named
as the ensured on the policy.
Mr. Commers stated this appeared to be a logical thing to do as
long as the policy is reviewed by legal counsel and it gives the
HRA the necessary coverage.
Ms. Dacy stated the HRA's consultant, Conway Olson, also
recommended this approach.
Ms. Dacy stated that in item 9(Paragraph 7 of the lease), the
/�1 lease should be amended to read that there be a 30 day notice of
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cancellation instead of the 10 day notice. Mr. Burns also
recommended approval.
Ms. Dacy stated that leaves item 8. Mr. Fitch wants the HRA not
to re-lease the building to another soft-serve operation after he
leaves.
Mr. Fitch stated item 8 has one primary purpose. He stated he is
hoping he will be able to move across the street to the Fridley
Town Square so he did not think they are looking at the lease
with the Dairy Queen as a long term lease. He stated it was
never his intention to leave his present location. He has been
there 25+ years and has built up a superb reputation for
distributing soft-serve items. He would like to have a non-
competing clause in both the lease and the settlement when they
come to terms on the sale from the Dairy Queen. He did not think
it is in his best interest for the City to use the reputation of
that location as a purveyor of soft-serve treats to put a
competing business in there when he is just moving across the
street. He and his wife do not care what type of business goes
into that location, but they prefer that the business not be
mistaken as a Dairy Queen. They would like this incorporated as
part of the lease and settlement.
^ Mr. Commers stated that if the HRA does this and the HRA
terminates the lease, then it not going to be an issue; however,
if Mr. Fitch terminates the lease, the HRA has essentially a one-
use building and he did not know how adaptable the building is
for other uses.
Mr. Meyer stated he understood Mr. Fitch's feelings about this
issue; but from a realistic standpoint, does the HRA as a public
body have any right to write in such a clause?
Mr. Hoeft stated that, yes, the HRA can limit the type of
business for that building. Regarding the question, is the
building adaptable to any other use or are they cutting off any
other use for that property, that is a policy situation.
Mr. Commers stated it is a
take and reduces the value
worth as much if they have
bearing on the fair market
stuck with a building they
rent or lease it, it might
value. He stated this is
risk that the HRA does not need to
of the building. The building is
to assume that risk. That has a
value of the building. They could
cannot rent or lease, or, if they
be at a rent less than fair market
difficult issue.
not
be
can
Ms. Dacy stated that some of this might be solved if the
northeast quadrant is redeveloped and Mr. Fitch can relocate
there. It is even possible that the HRA would not be able to re-
�'"1 lease the building to another soft-serve business because the
Dairy Queen would be in the general vicinity. It is staff's
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recommendation that it would not be prudent for the HRA to tie
its hands by putting that kind of clause in the lease at this
time.
Mr. Meyer stated he can understand this concern, but he did not
think it has a lot of validity and logic. It is his feeling that
they would be pursuing a very fine point, and he would be willing
to go ahead and put the clause in the lease.
Mr. Fitch stated his request is only for the building as it
exists now. If the building is torn down and there is new
development, then anything can be developed. His request only
surfaces around the aspect of identification, especially with the
red roof being maintained on the building.
Mr. Commers asked Mr. Fitch if he would have any objection if the
roof was painted a different color.
Mr. Fitch stated he would not have as big a concern if the roof
was a different color. However, he still has some concerns
because of the way this whole process has taken place, and that
it was not he and his wife's choice to relocate. He still has
some reservations about another soft-serve operation locating in
the building, but not as many if the roof is painted a different
^ color.
Ms. Schnabel stated that virtually every major fast-food business
is now serving some type of soft-serve ice cream and yogurt.
What concerns her is that because of the "soft-serve" definition,
would the HRA be locking themselves into something they cannot
manage once Mr. Fitch and his business moves? That is the
problem she sees with Mr. Fitch's request.
Mr. Fitch stated it has been brought up that there is a different
fair market value for the property because it cannot be used for
the potential soft-serve type businesses it was designed for. By
the same token so far, the market valuation on this property was
set not as a Dairy Queen but what it would be as something else.
The purchase price was ultimately set on the basis of it being a
Dairy Queen and the marketability of it being a soft-serve and
the reputation it has. They can eliminate any problems with the
lease if the purchase price of the property is substantially
larger than currently proposed. If he is paid for the value of
the property being a soft-serve Dairy Queen location, then he has
no problem with the HRA leasing it to another soft-serve
business. But, as currently proposed, the property is not being
valued on that specific type of use. It is being valued as a
general piece of property with a little building on it.
Mr. Commers stated the property is valued at its highest and best
�1 use. It may be even valued higher than the use as a Dairy Queen.
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Mr. McFarland stated the lease expires in November 1992. Can the
terms of the lease be binding after the expiration of the lease?
If the northeast quadrant development proceeds, the soonest the
Dairy Queen would move would probably be May 1992, and then they
would only have about six months left on the lease.
Mr. Commers stated if they would only have the restriction for
approximately six months until November 1992, then he did not
have any major objection, because that would give the HRA a few
months to test the market and see what is out there. If the HRA
is able to re-lease the building before November 1992, they would
agree not to lease to a soft-serve type business. However, he
agreed with Ms. Schnabel that they don't want to restrict
themselves so they cannot lease to a business where soft-serve is
not the primary part of the business.
Mr. McFarland stated that if Mr. Fitch believes there is any real
threat or risk to his business, another alternative would be for
him to continue to make the lease payments, and the HRA would not
be able to acquire the property back for purposes of re-leasing
it. If there is no risk, then Mr. Fitch can let the lease expire
in November 1992.
Mr. Fitch stated that it is true that the non-complete clause
would only be until the lease expires in November 1992. He
stated he did not anticipate vacating the building until July,
August, or September 1992 at the earliest. The HRA is
potentially looking at only about 2-3 months, but he would like
that protection for that period of time.
Mr. Meyer stated he is in favor of granting Mr. Fitch's request
and adding a non-compete clause to the lease until the expiration
of the lease that would limit the HRA to lease the building to
any business where the predominant use is soft-serve.
Ms. Schnabel stated that as long as the words "predominant use"
is included in the lease, then she would agree to Mr. Fitch's
request.
Mr. Fitch stated that is agreeable to him.
Mr. Commers and Mr. McFarland were also both in agreement.
Mr. Commers directed the attorney to make the necessary
amendments to the lease.
Mr. Fitch stated that paragraph 10 of the lease addresses certain
items that staff and he have agreed that he would be able to
remove from the building upon expiration or termination of the
lease. One thing that was not mentioned is a walk-in freezer
that is part of the Dairy Queen equipment that actually sits
outside the exterior of the building. The lease talks about all
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interior equipment and does not address the freezer that sits
outside. He would like the freezer incorporated with the
equipment he can take with him.
Mr. Commers stated he presumed the HRA is
the pylon sign, the fencing, storage shed,
He stated Mr. Fitch should be able to take
however, if he takes the freezer, then the
for it. The same is true for the removal
fencing, interior cupboards, etc. If Mr.
them, then the HRA will not pay for them.
Mr. Fitch stated that is agreeable to him.
paying Mr. Fitch for
and walk-in freezer.
the freezer with him;
HRA will not pay him
of the sign, deck
Fitch wants to take
Mr. Hoeft stated he will work on this with Mr. Fitch.
Chairperson Commers stated it is the consensus of the HRA to
authorize staff to negotiate with Mr. Fitch the discussed
amendments to the lease between the Fridley HRA and the Fridley
Dairy Queen.
3. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AGREEMENTS TO RETURN TAX INCREMENT TO
SCHOOL DISTRICTS:
�..� Mr. Hansen stated that in the agenda is a memo dated September 6,
1991, from Rick Pribyl and himself explaining the 1992 school
district referendum levy return agreements and the 1992 estimated
amounts based on projections given to the City by the County.
Mr. Commers stated that with the class rates being lowered, the
1992 monies could be less than these numbers. What happens if
the HRA commits to these numbers now and they change?
Mr. Hansen stated the estimated 1992 figures are based on the
class rate changes.
Ms. Dacy stated these numbers are the worst case scenario and the
market values could be reduced by tax delinquencies, court cases,
or other means.
Dr. Dennis Rens, Superintendent of School District #14, stated he
certainly appreciates the timeliness of the HRA's discussion.
These monies will affect their 1992-93 budget and will provide
the School District with an opportunity to plan. The School
District is also highly appreciative of the HRA's actions in the
past.
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. McFarland, to approve the
School District Referendum Levy Return Agreements for the school
fiscal year 1992-93.
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IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
Ms. Schnabel stated she would like to compliment Mr. Pribyl and
Mr. Hansen on all the work they have done and to express the
HRA's appreciation in having the work done so quickly.
Mr. Commers stated he agreed. The information is certainly in a
more understandable mode this time, and the HRA appreciates that.
4. CLAIMS AND EXPENSES:
Ms. Dacy stated that she is requesting the HRA's concurrence on
her request to attend the American Economic Development Council's
Basic Economic Development course in Tampa, Florida, on November
3-8, 1991.
Mr. Commers stated he certainly believed it is worthwhile for Ms.
Dacy to attend this Economic Development course.
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to approve the
request by Barbara Dacy to attend the American Economic Develop-
ment Council's Basic Economic Development course in Tampa,
Florida, on November 3-8, 1991.
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, approve the check
register (2155-2161) dated September 6, 1991.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOII3LY.
5. COPY OF LETTER TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING DECERTIFYING TIF
DISTRICTS•
Mr. Commers stated this is an informational item with respect to
the issue discussed at the August HRA meeting relating to the
termination of TIF districts that are not needed for financing
economic development or redevelopment improvements. The HRA had
asked Mr. Burns to write a memo to the Council expressing the
HRA's understanding of the Council's position, but also
expressing some of the HRA's concerns. This memo was included in
the agenda.
Mr. Commers stated there is another issue regarding the
decertification, and that is the obligation the HRA has under the
existing bond indentures and the ability to transfer funds from
one district to another. He stated he would like to talk to Jim
Casserly and have Mr. Casserly let the HRA know what the
restrictions are on which districts in terms of using funds from
one district and refunding another district.
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6. COPY OF CONTRACT WITH MAXFIELD RESEARCH GROUP:
Mr. Commers stated this is an informational item.
7. UPDATE ON RICE PLAZA:
Mr. Commers stated that if more tenants are going to be leaving
Rice Plaza, it might be a good idea for staff to ask Jim Kordiak
if he has some suggestions for a more aggressive program to get
more tenants into the building. Without a developer at this
time, the building could be vacant for quite some time.
8. INFORMATION ON BOB SCHROER PROJECT:
Ms. Dacy stated that Mr. Schroer and Mr. Newman are at the
meeting to introduce the HRA to the project, to talk about
financing, and to request some assistance from the HRA. Mr.
Schroer hopes to have a redevelopment contract for the HRA's
consideration at the October meeting.
Mr. Newman stated Mr. Schroer has been exploring a possible
redevelopment for some time with construction to start next
spring. Then he was approached by a prospective tenant about one
month ago, Lyndale Garden Center, who would be a joint user of
^ the property. Lyndale Garden Center has been around for about 60
years at 66th and Lyndale Avenue South and is the largest
independent garden center in the Twin Cities area. Lyndale
Garden Center recently opened up a new store in Burnsville. Mr.
Schroer is very comfortable with Lyndale Garden Center' expertise
and quality of business. Some years ago, Mr. Schroer operated a
garden center, then came Frank's Nursery and Malmborg's Garden
Center, so they feel there is a strong potential with the two
businesses.
Mr. Newman stated that due to the nature of the garden center
business which is so seasonal, it is important to proceed as
quickly as possible as Lyndale Garden Center needs to be in and
open next spring. So, they are operating under a rather short
time frame.
Mr. Newman showed the updated preliminary site plan. He stated
Mr. Schroer is proposing a new 18,000 sq. ft. building. Lyndale
Garden Center would have an enclosed area of 15,000 sq. ft., a
greenhouse of 5,000 sq. ft., and an outside sell center of
approximately 40,000 sq. ft.
Mr. Newman stated they hope to have the final numbers and cost in
place within a few days. They have had some discussions with
First Star Bank for financing.
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Mr. Newman stated they will also be requesting some assistance
from the HRA. It is his understanding that the HRA prefers the
"pay-as-you-go" approach.
Mr. Commers stated that this project originally only qualified
under the rehab portion so that funds, if any, would only be
available for a short period of time. It was only if the project
joined in with the project across the street that a time period
could even be talked about. What Mr. Newman is proposing is that
any additional taxes that are generated by this specific project
would be refunded to the property owners over a period of time.
Mr. Commers stated the HRA has only recently done one "pay-as-
you-go" project. The HRA's preference has always been that to
some extent they get something back from the developer as far as
the assistance they give to the developer. So, Mr. Newman and
Mr. Schroer should keep in mind that there may be different
alternatives. The HRA is very concerned about setting a
precedent with the "pay-as-you-go" approach.
ADJOURNMENT•
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. McFarland, to adjourn the
meeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Commers
^ declared the motion carried unanimously and the September 12,
1991, Housing and Redevelopment Authority adjourned at 9:05 p.m.
Resp ctfully su mitted,
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Lynn Saba
Reco ding Secretary
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