HRA 11/14/1991 - 29626n
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HODSING � REDEVELOPMFNT AIITHORITY MEETING, NOVEMBER 14, 1991
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CALL TO ORDER•
Chairperson Commers called the November 14, 1991, Housing &
Redevelopment Authority meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL•
Members Present: Larry Commers, Virginia Schnabel, John Meyer,
Duane Prairie
Members Absent: Jim McFarland
Others Present: William Burns, Executive Director of HRA
Barbara Dacy, Community Development Director
Paul Hansen, Accountant
Jim Casserly, Consultant
Jim Hoeft, HRA Attorney
Mark Rasmusson, McGlynn Bakeries
Terrie Mau, Cinnamon Skin Tanning Salon
Chris Wallace
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APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 24, 1991, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MINUTES•
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to approve the
October 24, 1991, Housing & Redevelopment Authority min�tes as
written.
IIPON A VOICB VOTE, ALL VOTING AYL, CBAIRPERBON COMMERB DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
1. RESOLUTION MODIFYING THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR REDEVELOPMENT
PROJECT NO. 1 AND ESTABLISHING PROPOSED TAX INCREMENT FINANCE
DISTRICT #12•
Mr. Casserly stated that this is a draft Tax Increment Plan. There
are some small changes that need to be incorporated into the.Plan;
however, the changes are relatively minor and are underlined. He
reviewed the changes with the HRA.
Mr. Casserly stated that this plan is very similar to plans adopted
by the HRA in previous years. This plan fits into the total
development program. A lot of the language in the plan is designed
to meet statutory requirements, s.o some of the language is broader
than what is being contemplated in this specific project. A tax
increment plan outlines the powers the HRA has and will almost
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always be broader than the specific project which allows the HRA
some leeway in the event there are occurrences the HRA has not
anticipated. The development agreement is the contract the HRA has
with the developer for the project, and the development agreement
lays out the very specific terms for a specific project.
Mr. Casserly stated that this note is exactly like the note the
HRA has on Lake Pointe. They only pay the note when the revenues
are available, but when the revenues are not available in the first
several years, that interest is accruing and being added to the
principal.
Mr. Commers stated his only concern is that the monies that are
being contributed through the State Economic Recovery Fund is
really a separate transaction, albeit coming to the HRA and the
HRA forgiving those funds in terms of repayment. He did not
understand why that should be included in the fund when they are
talking about the total Bonded Indebtedness of $1,125,000 when it
should really be $250,000 less than that.
Mr. Casserly stated they did not actually change the total amount
of Bonded Indebtedness from the numbers given to the HRA previously
in the agenda. The reason for that is that the number they were
using before was $800,000. They are not going to create any more
bonded indebtedness, nor are they going to pay any more capitalized
interest. All they are doing is meeting the statutory requirements
of showing how the monies received would be expended. They could
break that out better, because the public could perceive that the
entire amount is coming from the HRA, and it is not. That is why
he does not put specific numbers in some places. He is assuming
it will come in at $250,000, but he does not see it being any more
than that. The amounts put in the budget are all high. They
always make the budgets higher than any number they would use in
their development agreement. The reason for that is that if
something doesn't take place for 3-4 years and they have the effect
of inflation, then they do not have to amend the budget in order
to make certain expenditures.
Mr. Commers stated there is probably no need to discuss that any
further, but it does seem a little misleading to the general
public.
Mr. Casserly stated the existing building is in two school
districts so they have to make assumptions on what the valuations
are going to be in each school district when it is improved. This
creates some technical problems. One of the parcels (owned by the
City) is essentially a ponding area in the northwest corner
adjacent to the railroad tracks, and that parcel is not in the tax
increment district. The reason it is included in the project area
is because they will probably have expenditures in that parcel that
the City owns. In order to allow the HRA to make expenditures, it
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has to be included in the project area. That is why the project
area is slightly larger than the tax increment district.
Ms. Dacy stated this stormwater pond collects a lot of the runoff
from the general area. When this pond is at capacity, the water
flows back into the Totino lot. Mr. Flora, Public Works Director,
is evaluating the construction of a storm sewer connection from the
rear of the property into an existing storm sewer over to the west
and then directed down to the south.
Mr. Commers asked why this ponding area is not included in the tax
increment district and pay for it off increment, rather than having
it separated out.
Mr. Casserly stated they can spend money as long as the parcels
are included in the project area.
Mr. Casserly stated that if the Tax Increment Plan is acceptable
to the HRA as amended, by approving the resolution, they are
recommending that the Council create the tax increment district,
approve the plan, and amend the development program and the
existing districts.
Mr. Commers asked Mr. Rasmusson to give a general summary of
^ McGlynn's plans.
Mr. Mark Rasmusson stated that on behalf of the McGlynn family, he
would like to say how excited they are about coming to Fridley.
They appreciate the accommodations the HRA, City Council, and
Planning Commission are making to help them with their project;
and they are proud to become a part of the Fridley community. He
also wanted to compliment the professionalism of the City staff,
who represent the type of city that McGlynn wants to be a part of.
Mr. Rasmusson stated McGlynn Bakeries has been a very fast growing
business over the last few years. They have gone from $60 million
in sales four years ago to $180 million in sales this December
1991. They are the largest croissant manufacturer in the United
States. Because they are growing so fast, plants change rapidly.
They currently have two production facilities in Minnesota, one in
Eden Prairie (15 years) and one in Chanhassen (2 years). Basically
two production facilities share one building in Eden Prairie: the
retail division and the frozen products division. The frozen
products division is growing more rapidly than the retail division.
The Chanhassen facility supports the frozen division.
Mr. Rasmusson stated that because they anticipated running into
more capacity problems at Eden Prairie last spring, they started
looking at expansion possibilities. One was a bandaid, stop-gap,
measure in Eden Prairie where they would buy the warehouse they
n currently lease and use it for a variety of purposes. Because it
is a warehouse and not a food processing plant, it would be cost
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prohibitive to turn it into a full fledged bakery. They began
exploring going out of state, particularly southeast, perhaps North
Carolina. Before they got too far into that, the Totino's plant
became the focus of their attention.
Mr. Rasmusson stated the great thing about the Totino's plant is
that it is a good food plant, and the basic structure is sound.
It will cost about $4.8 million to rehab it before they can put
their own equipment into it. The plant was also attractive because
of the distribution issues and business climate issues. They plan
to move into the plant by the fall of 1992. This will be real boon
for their retail division, because it has been at capacity for
about 5 years. Now with a new refurbished plant, they can start
looking at other business opportunities with their retail division.
Again, they are really excited about coming to Fridley and the
opportunity this plant is going to have for them to invest in new
opportunities for the retail division.
Mr. Commers asked Mr. Rasmusson to talk about the number of
employees that will be coming to Fridley and what they plan to do
with the plant in Eden Prairie.
Mr. Commers stated that, over time, they will be taking out most
of the retail plant production equipment from Eden Prairie and
^ moving it to Fridley. The bulk of it will be moved by the fall of
1992. As far as employees, they have not yet surveyed their
employees as to who would like to make the move to Fridley. They
are looking at approximately 200 employees moving to Fridley
initially. That initial phase would include retail production,
retail divisional offices, big stock division (internal supply
division) , and a bakery outlet store. Most of tl�ose employees will
be current McGlynn employees; however, there will be the
opportunity for a lot of new hires, because of future growth plus
about a 30% turnover that they have experienced in the last three
years.
Mr. Prairie asked Mr. Rasmussen about the employee capacity at the
Fridley plant.
Mr. Rasmusson stated he believed they can be here 25-30 years and
not run out of space. They may be at 80� capacity once they get
everything moved in. That would be approximately 250-300
employees. The next step after that is to move the big stock or
supply division to a nearby warehouse. That would increase their
floor space for production by about 40%. They don't anticipate
any more parking spaces than are on the site right now, but they
are buying an additional acre from Pillsbury and working a lot
split so they have an additional acre for future parking and which
would also allow an approximately 20,000-25,000 sq. ft. addition
on the north side of the building.
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Mr. Commers stated the HRA is also happy that McGlynn Bakeries is
coming to Fridley, and they hope they are here for a long, long
time.
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MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to approve
Resolution No. 6- 1991, "A Resolution Modifying the Redevelopment
Plan for Redevelopment Project No. 1 to Reflect Increased
Geographic Area and Increased Project Costs within Redevelopment
Project No. 1 and Modifying the Tax Increment Financing Plans for
Tax Increment Financing Districts No. 1 through No. 11 to Reflect
Increased Project Costs within Redevelopment Project No. 1 and
Establishing Proposed Tax Increment Financing District No. 12 and
Approving and Adopting the Proposed Tax Increment Financing Plan
Relating Thereto", as amended.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, COMMERB, BCffiJAHEL, PRAIRIE VOTING AYE, MEYER
ABSTAINING, CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED.
2. CLAIMS AND EXPENSES:
a. Check Register (2172-2178)
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to approve the
check register dated November 7, 1991.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER80N COMMERB
DTCLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
3. APPROVAL OF 1992 MEETING DATES:
Mr. Commers stated the dates as proposed are the second Thursday
of each month at 7:30 p.m.
MOTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to approve the
1992 meeting dates as follows:
January 9 July 9
February 13 August 13
March 12 September 10
April 9 October 8
May 14 November 12
June 11 December 10
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPE1t80N COMMERB DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
4. UPDATE ON RICE PLAZA:
Mr. Commers stated this is an update on the Rice Plaza rents and
is for informational purposes only.
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5. LETTER FROM JIM KORDIAK REGARDING EVICTION OF RICE PLAZA
TENANT•
Mr. Burns stated that Mr. Kordiak is suggesting that the HRA evict
Terrie Mau of Cinnamon Skin Tan and seize the equipment and perhaps
seek legal action. He stated he negotiated an agreement with Ms.
Mau in May 1991, but she has not lived up to the agreement. Now
it is up to the HRA to decide what source of enforcement they want
to pursue.
Mr. Commers asked Ms. Mau to tell the HRA what has been happening.
Ms. Mau stated she appreciated the opportunity to speak to the HRA.
She stated it is now time to plead her own case so the HRA can
understand her situation. She stated her business is not only her
livelihood, but is a goal she has had for some time.
Ms. Mau stated that when she purchased the business, she purchased
it in good faith; but that obviously that was not the intention of
the person she purchased the business from. That led to the
situation where the former owner opened a business across the
street from her and took her employees. The main source of income
in her business is the stylists who work for her, and losing that
income made it very difficult for her business. In trying to
^ figure out what to do, she consolidated into one location as
opposed to two. By that time, a large sum of rent had already gone
into arrears.
Ms. Mau stated that since that time, she made a good faith
agreement with the HRA with the idea that she would be moving into
a new location and, therefore, would have increased her income
substantially because of a better opportunity at hiring stylists.
This hasn't happened, and she will not be relocating to a new
development.
Ms. Mau stated that the uncertainty of redevelopment of the Rice
Plaza makes it difficult for her to hire stylists because of the
uncertainty of the building. In her particular business, the only
way to survive is to build a clientele. She can't build a
clientele and take the chance that she will not be in this location
in six months. They have lived with this uncertainty for a year.
Ms. Mau stated she has brought in another person who leases part
of her space. She has also brought in another person who does body
wrapping who also leases part of her space. However, she cannot
survive on those small amounts. 5he needs to be able to expand in
order to increase that profit margin.
Ms. Mau stated she has every intention of not letting this go on
forever, but she cannot tell the HRA how to rectify a situation
^ that she does not foresee getting any better given the problems she
has at this particular site. She did work out an agreement with
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Mr. Burns in May 1991 that she thought she could handle. The
reason she had to come to Mr. Burns was because she could not get
an agreement with Jim Kordiak. This is a problem, not only for
herself, but with other tenants in this building. She realized
the HRA hired Jim Kordiak to manage this property with the very
best of intentions, but it is very disconcerting for her and other
tenants to see tenants leaving the building because they cannot
come to agreements or work out problems with Mr. Kordiak. One
thing that has troubled them is the fact that all but one of the
businesses are owned by women. They feel they are not being
treated fairly by Mr. Kordiak.
Ms. Mau stated the tenants are having a difficult time in this
building. The rents they were paying when that building was
purchased by the City were probably adequate at that time for that
particular situation. Now, the rents are far too high for the
problems they are being faced with on a day-to-day basis. The
general feeling of the public is that this building is coming down
and why start doing business there. This presents a problem for
the tenants and for herself especially because her business is very
service-oriented. With more and more tenants moving out of this
building, it makes it even more difficult to bring in new business.
Rapid Printing will be leaving the first of the year. Metz Bakery
is leaving this month. She cannot survive if the building does not
survive.
Ms. Mau stated that for these reasons, she decided to come before
the HRA to see if some kind of arrangement can be made for that
building. She stated she is doing the best she can, but it is up
to the HRA to decide how they want to handle the whole situation.
Mr. Commers asked if Ms. Mau had any suggestions for the HRA to
consider.
Ms. Mau stated she would like the opportunity to manage the
property, because she believes the building needs an on-site
manager. She is there every day and is accessible to the other
tenants. She does almost all the snow shoveling now for the
building because she is there and because she is the only one who
has access to leave her business during the day when it is snowing.
Ms. Mau stated she has never managed a building before. She stated
she believes she manages her business well. She is a single parent
raising a daughter alone. She handles her finances well, but she
cannot handle finances that do not exist, and she cannot handle a
situation where there appears to be no solution. Her business is
not failing. Considering what she has been up against for the last
year, her business is doing well. It has been a very difficult
year for her.
Ms. Schnabel stated she finds it difficult to understand why Ms.
Mau has not been making some attempt to make some type of payments.
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Ms. Mau stated her main reason for not paying is that if she cannot
pay all of it, it might as well not be any.
Ms. Schnabel asked if Ms. Mau has any solution in terms of the
debt.
Ms. Mau stated that if the HRA would settle the debt 50 cents on
the dollar, she would find the means to pay the debt now. Then
she would like the HRA to lower her rent, because the high rent is
a problem and does not give her the opportunity to grow. She
stated she would like to stay in the building so it does not become
an empty building.
Ms. Schnabel stated it might be difficult for the HRA to negotiate
a reduced rent for Ms. Mau, as it would set a precedent for other
tenants in the building to have their rent reduced.
Ms. Mau stated her rent is among the highest rents. She believed
almost all the other tenants who want to stay in this building feel
their rents should be reduced.
Mr. Meyer asked how Ms. Mau felt her replacing Jim Kordiak �aould
improve her situation.
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Ms. Mau stated she did not know whether or not her business would
improve, but she does care more about this particular site. She
cares that the building is occupied because she has a vested
interest in the building. She believed the other tenants will feel
more secure if the property manager is on site.
Mr. Commers stated they have heard Ms. Mau's background and
infornaation. He stated the HRA should take this information under
consideration and staff can let Ms. Mau know of any decisions they
make.
Ms. Mau thanked the HRA for their time and consideration.
Mr. Hoeft stated that with respect to Mr. Kordiak's letter in which
he suggests seizing the property, he wanted the HRA to know that
they are not first in line on the security interest in the
property. Northeast State Bank has an interest; therefore, if the
HRA wanted the tanning beds or other equipment, the HRA would have
to pay off the value of that equipment to Northeast State Bank.
Mr. Commers stated what concerns him the most is what is going on
with the building as a whole. They are losing tenants. They
recently lost two tenants, and now it sounds like two more tenants
are leaving, one of which is a maj or tenant . He wanted to know
what is causing the tenants to leave.
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Ms. Schnabel asked who is setting the rental guidelines.
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Mr. Burns stated he believed they have periodically renegotiated
the rents, and basically it is what their leasing agent feels the
space can be rented for. He believed some of the renegotiations
have taken into consideration the situation the building is in,
and there have been some substantial reduction of rents for
different tenants with his consent.
Mr. Commers stated that if they are losing tenants, then they have
to get the rents to the point where they can attract new tenants.
Mr. Burns stated there are also some substantial repair costs to
a number of tenant spaces. It wi�l cost about $10,000 to renovate
the tenant space that Norge Village recently vacated.
Mr. Commers suggested authorizing staff to look at the leases and
the rents, and then check around to see what rents are being
charged in other shopping centers in the area, such as Moon Plaza.
They also need to know what condition the tenant spaces are in.
They need a comprehensive, total analysis of the total situation
so they can put together some plan to rescue or rehabilitate this
building.
The HRA members agreed.
^ Mr. Burns stated they should also have Mr. Kordiak respond to the
issues raised by Ms. Mau.
Ms. Schnabel suggested they talk to the rental manager for Moon
Plaza about the possibility of being a rental manager for both
shopping centers.
6. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Fridley Dairy Queen
Mr. Hoeft stated he received some paperwork from Mr. Fitch's
attorney, and Mr. Fitch's attorney has made a motion to the
court which is scheduled for the following Wednesday, November
21. They are asking for two things in the motion. One is
that the time period for which to have the Commissioners
report back to the court be extended. That has been done
informally, and he indicated to Mr. Fitch's attorney that the
Hearing was rescheduled for the latter half of January. So,
that issue has been resolved. The other thing is they are
requesting that the court release the $125, 000 that was placed
on deposit in District Court based upon the approved valuation
at the start of the quick-take proceedings.
Mr. Hoeft stated he indicated to Mr. Fitch's attorney that he
^ would have to discuss this with the HRA; but in his
consideration of the situation, they had two options when they
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began the process: (1) to pay the $125,000 directly to Mr.
Fitch, or (2) to deposit it with the court which places it in
an interest bearing account and the petitioner can petition
to have it removed. Mr. Hoeft stated the HRA chose to deposit
it with the court. It was his recommendation that the HRA not
oppose the motion for Mr. Fitch to withdraw the money from the
District Court, the situation being that if the settlement
figure or the Commissioners' award gets determined is in
excess of the $125,000, then obviously the City pays the
difference. If it is less than the $125,000, then that would
have to be refunded to the City. The area of concern comes
if it is less than $125,000. From the numbers that have been
talked about with the HRA's appraiser regarding property value
and relocation assistance, he did not believe the award will
be less than the $125,000; and, therefore, he did not believe
the HRA runs the risk of trying to recover funds back from Mr.
Fitch after it has been released back from the District Court.
What argument do they have to ask the District Court to hold
on to the $125,000?
Ms. Dacy stated Mr. Fitch still has not signed the lease. She
suggested that they ask the Court °to hold on to the $125,000
until the lease is signed and the rent paid to the HRA.
^ Mr. Commers stated another argument to use is that they do
not know what Mr. Fitch's appraisal is going to be. It could
be lower than the City's.
It was the consensus of the HRA that the $125,000 not be
released until Mr. Fitch signs a lease with the HRA, pays the
rent due since July 1991, and submits a copy of his appraisal.
b. Target Parking
Ms. Dacy stated that at the last meeting, the HRA asked the
question of what was the mechanism that the Target Northern
Operations Center used to pay rental payments on parking.
Ms. Dacy stated Rick Pribyl researched this and said that
Target purchased a U. S. Treasury Bond in the name of the City
of Fridley, and the interest payments on that on an annual
basis represent the payments in lieu of rental payments on the
parking lot.
c. Second Mortgage on Shorewood
Ms . Dacy stated that in answer to a question raised by the
HRA, payments on that began as of October 30, 1990, and
Shorewood did make the first payment. The second payment for
the second year was due October 30, 1991, and Shorewood have
� not make that payment. Mr. Pribyl has been in contact with
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the owners of Shorewood. There is also a 5� penalty charge
for late payment.
d. Municipal Liquor Store
Mr. Commers asked what the rental situation is with the liquor
store.
Mr. Burns stated the City pays the HRA approximately $22,000
per year to rent the liquor store.
Mr. Commers asked staff to look at the lease the HRA has with
the City for the liquor store to find out what the terms are
and the amount of the lease.
ADJOURNMENT:
Chairperson Commers declared the November 14, 1991, Housing and
Redevelopment Authority adjourned at 10:05 p.m.
Respectfully sub 'tted,
,,.� Ly Saba
Recording Secretary
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