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CITY OF FRIDLBY
JOINT CITY COIINCIL/80II8ING & REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY MEETING
APRIL 9, 1992
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CALL TO ORDER•
Chairperson Commers called the April 9, 1992, joint City Council/
Housing & Redevelopment Authority meeting to order at 7:39 p.m.
ROLL CALL•
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Virginia Schnabel, Duane Prairie, John Meyer,
Jim McFarland
Larry Commers
Others Present: William Burns, Executive Director of HRA
Barbara Dacy, Community Development Director
Mayor Bill Nee
Councilmember Dennis Schneider
Councilmember Nancy J. Jorgenson
Councilmember Steve Billings
Rick Pribyl, Finance Director
Paul Hansen, Accountant
Jim Casserly, Consultant
APPROVAL OF MARCH 12, 1992, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MINUTES•
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Mr. McFarland, to approve the
March 12, 1992, Housing & Redevelopment Authority Commission
minutes as written.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED ONANIMOII3LY.
1. DISCUSS TIF POLICIES
Mr. Burns stated the objective is to develop a set of guidelines
that will guide staff and the HRA in their dealings with various
economic prospects. Prior to preparing the guidelines, staff
(Barbara Dacy, Jim Casserly, and he) prepared a set of
definitions to help understand the guidelines.
Mr. Burns reviewed the Definitions and General Guidelines.
Mr. Burns stated staff has already deleted item B from the
General Guidelines, because it is practically the same as item J.
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Ms. Schnabel stated that Item D in the General Guidelines states:
"�he City should not suffer as a result of HRA funding a
project." She stated she is not comfortable with the word
"suffer".
Mr. Burns stated staff will come up with some new wording for
that item.
Councilmember Billings stated he would get a little concerned
that 3-4 years from now, someone could look at item D and take it
to mean that the City as a whole should not be negatively
impacted.
Councilmember Schneider stated he also wanted to comment on item
D. If they find something that is a high priority goal, maybe
they will decide it is worth it to accomplish that goal.
Councilmember Billings stated item D is just too broad.
Ms. Schnabel stated she felt that the tone of that statement
infers that the HRA would have a real liability on a development
that somebody potentially would see it as a negative to the City,
and it made her uncomfortable.
Mr. Casserly stated that what this is really all about is an
economic loss to the City because of HRA activities. He believed
what they are trying to say is that the City will not have a net
economic loss as a result of the HRA funding a project. They are
trying to avoid an HRA action that would cause the City to incur
losses.
Mr. Burns stated staff would be willing to delete item D.
Ms. Schnabel stated it is her opinion that items E, I, and K
could be grouped together because they deal with developers as
opposed to other things that go more with the City. She also
thought maybe items C and H should be combined.
Mr. Burns agreed that it seemed reasonable to group items E, I,
and K together.
Councilmember Billings stated that in item D, aren't they really
trying to say that wherever possible, the HRA should consider the
impact of their projects on state revenues? Or should they
address anything at all?
Councilmember Schneider stated he is in favor of guidelines as a
way to analyze things with some level of consistency, or to
recognize that they are going to be inconsistent by choice. Up
^ until now, they have not had anything written down. He also gets
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concerned when they get more tax increment financing districts
(item G). It gives them a benchmark.
Mr. Meyer agreed with Councilmember Schneider that they are
looking at the guidelines specifically as a benchmark.
Mayor Nee stated it seems easier to just delete item D, but it is
good language.
The HRA members agreed to add the following wording to item D:
Wherever possible, the HRA will consider the economic impact of
projects on the City's financial condition.
Mr. Casserly stated that as the HRA struggles with its
redevelopment activities, they may well exceed the 15% captured
tax capacity (item G). The fact that they exceed 15% may be a
sign that the HRA is successful, because it may mean that the HRA
is being more active in taking on the tough redevelopment
projects. The 15% is there as a"tickler", but they should
eliminate any negative connotation.
Mr. Casserly stated the amount of assistance suggested in these
guidelines is verv conservative. It forces them to provide the
reasons for why they want to exceed the 15%, and that is a good
^ exercise.
Mr. Burns referred to the chart entitled "Maximum Amounts of
Developer/User Subsidy. Staff is suggesting that this chart
apply to subsidy. They are not setting any percentage
guidelines. They are saying that once they have provided
property at market rate, these guidelines apply to additional
money the HRA gives the project. The projects have been divided
into Economic Development projects and Redevelopment projects,
with subcategories of Industrial, Commercial/Office, and Housing
in each category. What is being suggested is in keeping with
past tradition.
Mayor Nee stated that what has bothered him for the last couple
of years is on economic development. Does everyone who asks for
assistance have a right to claim 5%, or is there some test?
Mr. Burns stated one of the major criteria is the financial
credibility of the company. They want to give the subsidy to a
company that has a cash flow that is going to support the debt
service for the project.
Mayor Nee stated that if the company does not need the money,
don't give it to them.
Mr. Meyer stated these things don't come down to whether a
� company needs the money. It is a matter of business as to which
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community will give the company th� best deal. There is
competition between communities.
Mr. Prairie stated he believed that is one of the tests.
Mr. McFarland stated it is probably driven more by what the City
needs, rather than what the company needs.
Mr. Burns stated he believed the main test is whether or not a
project meets the City's goals, what value is it bringing to the
community, and does the company have the experience and the
financial wherewithal to do what it says it will do?
Ms. Schnabel stated that for the last two years, she has been
concerned about housing and that they are not putting money into
housing. They have not been able to come up with the right
project, but she would like to see the HRA find a way to get a
program going.
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to adopt the
General Guidelines as amended:
A. TIF policies are not law, but are guidelines only.
They are subject to change based on annual review of
^ redevelopment priorities and projects. The guidelines
may have to be exceeded based on the project's
contribution toward community needs as determined by
the HRA and the City Council.
B. Every district should be self-supporting; however, in
certain areas the HRA's redevelopment costs may greatly
exceed the value of tax increment revenues generated in
projects that fulfill redevelopment goals (i.e. housing
rehabilitation projects or redevelopment from
commercial to resideritial). Pooling of TIF revenues is
desirable as a means of accomplishing difficult
redevelopment goals (i.e., housing rehab).
C. Wherever possible, the HRA will consider the economic
impact of projects on the City's financial condition.
D. Any developer/user must justify the requested
assistance ("But-For Test"). Wherever possible, the
amount of TIF assistance for a project should be
limited through the use of alternative financial
incentives e.g. SBA 504 financing, industrial revenue
bonds, or economic recovery fund grants. Developers
and users should demonstrate the financial feasibility
of the project.
''`� E. Whenever possible, the HRA should recapture its subsidy
from the project.
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F. The captured tax capacity shall not exceed 15% of the
total tax capacity.
G. The amount of TIF given to any project must be related
to the contribution of the project to the City's
redevelopment goals including creation and retention of
jobs, enhancing the tax base, preserving the decline of
tax values, eliminating blight and deteriorated
properties, or meeting affordable housing/other housing
objectives.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
2. DISCUSS HOUSING GOALS:
Ms. Dacy stated that last year the HRA sponsored the Maxfield
Housing Study. Over the last year, the City Council has made
several comments about investigating other housing programs and
what other communities are doing.
Ms. Dacy stated the first goal for this meeting is for the HRA
and the Council to provide staff with some general direction
� regarding their feelings and values about housing in general.
The second goal is for the HRA and City Council to give staff
some direction on a planning process.
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Ms. Dacy stated she has developed some group discussion exercises
to help the HRA and Council accomplish goal #1, so her role is to
give the HRA and Council information and to act as a facilitator.
Ms. Dacy reviewed the current status of the housing market.
Ms. Dacy stated that when they try to analyze an issue, it is
always helpful to start with who is involved. As a brainstorming
exercise, she asked the HRA and Council members to list who they
think the stakeholders are in the housing issue. The members
came up with the following list:
seniors
taxpayers
businesses/employers
school systems
City - Fire Dept., Police Dept., Housing Insp., Code
Enforcement
property owners
County social services
multi-residential owners
absentee landlords
social service system
churches
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financial community
contractors .
realtors
demolition companies
repair people
renters
residents
medical community
families - single, single parent families, one-person
households
emptynesters
people moving up
City Council
HRA
Ms. Dacy stated that because of the "housing" cycle, focusing on
one particular stakeholder may affect other stakeholders.
Ms. Dacy reviewed a chart entitled, "Relationship Between Stake-
holders and Lifecycle Housing".
Ms. Dacy stated that knowing what the current trends are, how do
these things interrelate? If the City Council and the HRA choose
to do nothing, what would the City of Fridley look like three
,-� years from now?
The Councilmembers and HRA put together the following list:
• less secure
• rundown
• downtown Minneapolis
• selective pockets of deteriorated housing
• not much change in 3 years - may not°be North Minneapolis
yet
• increase in absentee landlords
• more fear of cultural diversity
• more color
• more people on assistance
• more need for social services
• decline in housing stock will result in lower prices for
homes; lower income owners may not be able to keep up
the appearance of the home, resulting in further decline
in housing stock
• may not be able to maintain housing stock
• neighborhoods "on edge of trouble"
• decline in tax base > education > service delivery
• crime increase
• need to do something now
Mayor Nee stated he sees neighborhoods on the edge of trouble,
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which affects education and City and County services; and there
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is the prospect of having more difficulty in delivering services
that people need. He stated a kind of limited goal is to offset
the decline in value of tax base by:
• encouraging rehab
• trust/community spirit
• relying more on affirmative actions by HRA and City than on
police power
• helping people improve housing (multiples)
• tapping existing pride
Ms. Dacy stated that she has prepared an exercise to help the
Council and HRA identify how well they agreed with the general
recommendations of the Maxfield Housing Study. The Council and
HRA completed this exercise.
Ms. Dacy stated that staff has formed an interdepartmental team
to make recommendations on initial programming and strategies to
investigate for the long term. She stated she hoped that staff
would have recommendations by July or August.
The HRA members and City Council members concurred with this
approach.
3. CLAIMS AND EXPENSES:
MOTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to approve the
Expenditure Approval List dated April 3, 1992, check numbers
2208-2211.
IIPON A YOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPER30N SCHNABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOIISLY.
4. CONSIDERATION OF FUTURE ADVERTISING EFFORTS:
Ms. Dacy stated that in 1991, the HRA budgeted $11,000 for
advertising, but decided not to pursue any advertising in 1991.
In 1992, they have done three ads to date, two of which are in
Corporate Report. The basic theme of the ad has been as a
testimonial to some of the successful project that have already
occurred in Fridley. After the first two ads, staff thought the
HRA might want to take a different approach to try to focus on
some positive aspects of Fridley, outside of the successful
d�velopments. Staff has prepared a third ad which will focus on
the transportation aspects of Fridley and will be much more
focused. Instead of a full page approach, they have decided to
go to a half-page approach. �
Ms. Dacy stated that because of a half-page approach, if they
wanted to feature a company like Medtronic or Onan, the ad could
say "Home to...."; or another aspect of the half-page approach is
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they could mirror it in a postcard if they want to market a
specific redevelopment site. The postcard could be mailed to a
targeted audience.
Ms. Dacy stated the action needed by the HRA is whether or not
they want to pursue a fourth ad in 1992. If they do, they will
be about $4,000 over budget. The fourth ad would be featured in
the fall issue of Minnesota Ventures. Minnesota Ventures will be
doing a special focus section on the north metro area.
Mr. Meyer stated he believed it is important for the HRA to keep
its presence known in the field.
Councilmember Schneider asked if other cities' HRAs run ads.
Ms. Dacy stated, yes, they do. A number of the other member�
cities in the North Metro Mayors' Association ran ads in the same
Corporate Report issue and do so on a regular basis. It is a
very competitive market.
Ms. Schnabel asked staff if they feel there is a real benefit
from these ads and to continue advertising.
Ms. Dacy stated that one advantage for the ads for the future is
,-� that it seems to be a good vehicle to focus on a site if the HRA
wants to market a particular site. She believed the postcard
approach is very good. When they focus their advertising
efforts, their effectiveness is going to be a lot better. She
also liked the "Home to...." feature. It is a good way to
improve Fridley's reputation and image and create better feelings
about Fridley.
Mr. Burns stated the HRA did not advertise last year largely
because they believed they were far from resolving the Lake
Pointe problems and because the economy was rather bleak. The
economy has not completely recovered, but there are some signs
that recovery is on its way.
Mr. Burns stated that even though they have not had any specific
responses to these ads, he believes the ads keep Fridley's name
and image in front of the people who are making development
decisions. He believed the Minnesota Ventures magazine is geared
toward the smaller corporation and contains a lot of "how to"
articles. They have not advertised in that magazine before, and
he believed it is appropriate to try that particular market.
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to authorize staff
to put a fourth ad in the Minnesota Ventures magazine in 1992.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPER30N 3CHNABEL
�� DECLARED T$E MOTION CARRIED ONANIMOIISLY.
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5. SAM'S CLUB EXPANSION:
Ms. Dacy stated this is an information item updating the HRA on
Wal-Mart's plan to add a 30,000 sq. ft. addition to Sam's Club.
6. REAPPOINTMENT OF JIM McFARLAND: �
Ms. Dacy stated Jim McFarland has been reappointed to the HRA.
His term of office will expire on June 9, 1997.
7. BOB'S PRODUCE UPDATE:
Ms. Dacy stated Bob and Mike Schroer are proposing a revised plan
for the redevelopment of their site. Instead of constructing a
brand new produce building, they will maintain the existing
building and add a 9,300 sq. ft. addition on to the rear for
Lyndale Garden Center. The HRA may consider this project at the
next meeting.
8. RICE PLAZA UPDATE:
This was an informational item.
ADJOURNMENT•
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to adjourn the
meeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson
Schnabel declared the motion carried and the April 9, 1992,
Housing & Redevelopment Authority meeting adjourned at 10:15 p.m.
Res ectfully sub itted,
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Lyn Saba
Recording Secretary