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CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOIISING & REDEVELOPMLNT AIITHORITY MEETING, SEPTEMBER 10, 1992
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GALL TO ORDER•
Vice-Chairperson Schnabel called the September 10, 1992, Housing
& Redevelopment Authority meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Virginia Schnabel, Duane Prairie, John Meyer
Larry Commers, Jim McFarland
Others Present: William Burns, Executive Director of
Barbara Dacy, Community Development
Rick Pribyl, Finance Director
Paul Hansen, Accountant
Jim Casserly, Consultant
Bob and Mike Schroer, Bob's Produce
Dave Newman, Nedegaard Construction
HRA
Director
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APPROVAL OF JULY 9 1992 HOUSII�TG & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MINUTES•
MOTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to approve the July
9, 1992, Iiousing & Redevelopment Authority minutes as written.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON BCHNABEL
DECLARED T8E MOTION CARRIED ONANIMOIISLY.
1. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIOI�T TO EXECUTE DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT WITH SHEET METAL CONNECTORS:
Ms. Dacy stated that at the July meeting, the HRA approved in
concept a$200,000 loan for Sheet Metal Connectors to construct a
100,000 sq. ft. manufacturing building. The site is iocated on the
west side of Main Street just north of I-694.
Ms. Dacy stated the HRA has received a copy of the development
agreement with Sheet Metal Connectors. The developer is required
to construct a 100, 000 sq. ft. building, and a building permi't will
be issued by the end of the week. After completion of the building
and after the City issues a certificate of occupancy, the HRA will
issue a check in the amount of $200,000. This action is consistent
with the concept approval given by the HRA at the July meeting.
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Ms. Dacy stated staff is recommending that the HRA approve the
resolution authorizing the Executive Director and HRA Chairperson
to execute the development agreement with Sheet Metal Connectors.
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to approve Resolution
No. HRA 4-1992, "A Resolution Authorizing Execution and Delivery
of a Contract for Private Redevelopment By and Between the Housing
and Redevelopment Authority in and for the City of Fridley and
MSCJ, Inc.". .
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPER80N 3CHNABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOII3LY.
2. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION TO EXECUTE DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT WITH BOB'S PRODUCE:
Ms. Dacy stated Bob and Mike Schroer have proposed a redevelopment
plan which would add 9,000 sq. ft. onto their existing building.
The other part of the plan is to remove the former Malmborg part
of the building, and Lyndale Garden Center will construct a 15,000
sq. ft. building. The Schroers and Lyndale Garden Center have been
to Council a number of times and have received several land use
permits. She stated Jim Casserly will review the development
contract. •
^ Mr. Casserly stated the development contract is almost identical
to the one for McGlynn Bakeries and Cub Foods. This particular
contract is a pay-as-you-go type of program. The developer is not
getting any money up front, but only gettinq.money over time. The
developer has to do a number of. qualified improvements, and all
these improvements relate only to soils and site preparation.
There is no land writedown. The beginning balance of the revenue
note is $156,618, and there is some interest that accrues. The HRA
is agreeing to provide $156,618. Out of that $156,618, the HRA
is actually paying about $261,000 because they are paying interest,
too.
• Mr. Dave Newman stated he has reviewed the development agreement
with the Schroers and overall they are very comfortable with it.
As they are all aware, they are in the process of conveying a
portion of the site to Lyndale Garden Center. By every indication,
Lyndale Garden Center will develop the site. However, if for any
reason beyond anyone's control, Lyndale Garden Center does not
develop the site, the Schroers, under this development agreement,
would be in default and the City wouldn't have the $170,000 in
improvements. He is suggesting that the development agreement be
modified to provide a separate valuat�ion for the Schroer property
and a separate valuation for Lyndale Garden Center. The other
issue is that if the Lyndale Garden Center site isn't remodeled,
there is not going to be any increment from that site. There would
�'�, be less pay-as-you-go per year, and the Schroers would not get the
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full amount on .the note, because the assumption is that they
wouldn't have the minimum improvements constructed.
Ms. Schnabel asked if the amount of money agreed upon is predicated
on the total development being done.
Mr. Casserly stated that is correct.
Mr. Newman stated the qualifying cost is the site work and the soil
preparation, and the greater amount of that is allocated to the
Schroer property.
Mr. Casserly stated Mr. Newman has described the problem well, but
it is even a little more onerous. The redeveloper payment that
goes back to the City also assumes that the Lyndale Garden Center
project is going forward. The way the agreement is set up, if
Lyndale Garden Center doesn't go, not only would the Schroers not
receive the amount, there wouldn't be the increment to pay them the
note, and they have also committed to pay $2,000 per year which
isn't the City's loss at all.
Mr. Casserly stated the agreement as drafted gave everyone two
years, August 1992 to August 1994, to complete the basic
improveme.nts, and it was all based on the overall development
^ taking place. If the Lyndale Garden Center project doesn't go, the
Schroers will be penalized several ways.
Mr. Newman suggested that the development agreement be modified to
provide some type of staging. In other words, if the Schroers
complete "x" amount of improvements, they receive "x" amount of
assistance. So,' an alternative since the HRA receives the
increment generated from the project, they need to reduce the
valuation for minimum improvements.. That way, if the Schroers just
complete their building, they won't be in default because they have
only completed the minimum improvements, but they won't receive the
full amount of payment. Another problem is timing. The Schroers
are ready to construct their building this fall, but Lyndale Garden
Center's construction is probably a year away.
Mr. Bob Schroer stated he is comfortable that Lyndale Garden Center
will go ahead with their project, but it is too bad that they can't
do the whole development together.
Mr. Newman stated he would be comfortable working out this problem
with staff with concept approval from the HRA.
Mr. Casserly stated he believed it is really a policy question.
The redevelopers would like to have a two-stage project. The way
the development agreement is drafted now is that the Schroers will
receive no assistance until both phases are completed. They are
/'� saying that they can guarantee their own phase; but they cannot
guarantee the second phase. If the HRA agrees to put this
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agreement into two phases, then the Schroers can get the benefit
for the first phase of the development; and if Lyndale Garden
Center goes ahead, then the Schroers would get some additional
benefit.
Mr. Casserly stated the HRA has absolutely no risk in this project.
The real issue for the HRA is whether or not it wants to provide
assistance if it is not getting what it originally anticipated.
Mr. Meyer stated that if Lyndale Garden Center decides not to
proceed with the project and decides to sell the property in two
years, what happens to the ag�eement and to the improvements?
Mr. Casserly stated he can define the minimum improvements and a
general approximate valuation.
Mr. Casserly stated that, with HRA approval, he will work with
staff and Mr. Newman to put together an agreement to reflect the
two phase approach.
Ms. Schnabel stated that she is willing
Casserly negotiate a modification to the
long as staff is involved.
Mr. Burns stated staff will be involved.
to let Mr. Newman and Mr.
development agreement as
Mr. Meyer stated he has no problem with the two phase approach.
As long as the Schroers know what they are facing, then he is
comfortable with Mr. Casserly, Mr. Newman, and staff working out
the specifics.
Mr. Prairie stated he is also willing to let Mr. Casserly, Mr.
Newman, and staff work out an acceptable agreement.
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to approve Resolution
No. HRA 5-1992, "A Resolution Authorizing Execution and Delivery
of a Contract for Private Redevelopment By and Between the Housing
and Redevelopment Authority in and for the City of Fridley and East
Ranch Estates", and to direct staff to work with Mr. Casserly and
Mr. Newman to make the appropriate modifications to the development
agreement to reflect a two phase development.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON 3CHNABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RECOMMENDED HOUSING PROGRAMS:
This item was moved to the end o� tfie agenda.
4. CLAIMS AND EXPENSES:
a. Check Re.gister (2234-2247)
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MOTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to approve check
registers dated August 6 and September 10, 1992, as presented.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOIISLY.
5. REVISED PARKING LEASE BETWEEN HRA AND COLUMBIA PARK
PROPERTIES:
Ms. Dacy stated that Jim Hoeft wanted the HRA to know that he and
the attorney for Columbia Park Properties are still working on a
revised parking lease. There have been a number of leases and
documents pertaining to this property, so the intent is to combine
everything into one document. When the document is completed, it
will be signed by the Chairperson and Executive director.
6. RICE PLAZA UPDATE:
Ms. Dacy stated that when staff and the HRA were reviewing the 1992
budget, they looked at Rice Plaza and the income versus the
expenditures. At that time, there were only three vacant spaces
out of eight rental spaces. At the end of 1991, balance of
revenues minus expenditures equalled an excess of about $47,000.
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y year the HRA discussed three options:
1. Existing status, with tenant improvements (about $15,000)
2. Demolishing the building in March 1992
3. Gradual phase-out
Ms. Dacy stated the option chosen at that time was option #3.
About $2,500 was allocated in the budget for a trash enclosure and
sign improvements.
Ms. Dacy stated that a number of tenants have now left the
building. The most recent tenant, Rapit Printing, will be vacating
effective October 1, 1992, and will be moving to the old Zantigo
building on University Avenue.
Ms. Dacy stated that five out of eight rent�l spaces are now
vacant. One of the remaining three tenants, Hong Kong Kitchen, is
on a lease until October 1993. The other two tenants, Cinnamon
Skin Tan and Bargains, Bargains are on a month-to-month basis.
Ms. Dacy stated that as compared to the 1991 balance of revenues
minus expenditures of $47,000, projecting the revenues out to the
end of 1992 minus the expenditures, they will have a positive
� balance of about $9,600. However, with only three spaces rented,
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by the end of 1993, the revenues minus expenditures will be a
negative $16,900.
Ms. Dacy outlined the costs of comparing the three options (option
#1 - Current tenants with improvement; option #2 - Demolish 1993;
option #3 - Gradual phase-out. Based on Mr. Kordiak's opinion that
he cannot re-lease any space without improving the appearance of
the building and the HRA's discussion last year, option #1 really
isn't an option. That leaves options #2 and #3. If the HRA
decides to demolish the building, they would probably have to break
Hong Kong Kitchen's lease and have to pay relocation expenses.
Demolishing the building will cost about $25,000 plus the normal
operating expenses.plus taxes, so it will cost about $100,000 to
demolish the building. She stated that with gradual phase-out
option, while they don't have the demolition expense, they begin
to lose money because of lack of tenants.
Ms. Dacy stated staff is recommending that the HRA not take any
action on the building until the end of 1992 and see if any of the
tenants can be relocated in the Fridley Town Square development.
More information on that development should be forthcoming in the
next one to two months. If the tenants do not relocate to Fridley
Town Square, staff recommends the HRA strongly consider demolishing
the building in 1993. A potential time would be to do it in con-
^ junction with the Mississippi Street improvement project by Anoka
County next spring.
Mr. Burns suggested the HRA wait to see what happens. If Hong Kong
Kitchen does not break its lease, them maybe the HRA should wait
to demolish the building until October 1993 when the Hong Kong
Kitchen lease expires. That way the HRA would not have to pay
relocation expenses.
Ms. Schnabel stated staff's analysis appears to be very sound. She
would agree with Mr. Burns, that the HRA wait on any decisions to
see what happens.with the Fridley Town Square development and the
current tenants.
Mr. Meyer and Mr. Prairie agreed.
7. RE4UEST BY TIM WERNER REGARDING LAKE POINTE SITE:
Ms. Dacy stated Mr. Werner is running against Alice Johnson for
State Representative. Because Mr. Werner believes the metro area
should better pursue bus service, he has inquired as to whether or
not the HRA would be willing to establish a park-and-ride site at
the immediate intersection of Highway 65 and West Moore Lake Drive
(where the bank, hotel, and restaurant buildings are proposed in
the original Lake Pointe plan). Nlr. Werner has been calling her
weekly regarding this issue. She stated she has told Mr. Werner
,�, that the HRA is looking at a lot of options for the Lake Pointe
site.
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Ms. Dacy stated this is an in.formational item only. However, if
the HRA members have any comments, she would be happy to convey
those comments to Mr. Werner.
Mr. Burns stated that it is hard to make a promise for a park-and-
ride site for a site that the HRA does not currently control.
Secondly, if they look at their future strategically, it seems like
the best choice would be to develop some good quality office space
located on the large portion of the site and recover some of the
incentive they have used to qet the good quality office space by
selling off the retail site (7.8 acres) where Mr. Werner has
proposed the park-and-ride site. It becomes a policy issue. Which
is more valuable: a potential park-and-ride site or potential
revenue for that 7.8 acres?
8. COAiSIDER RE4UEST FOR TEMPORARY SIGNAGE FOR SOUTHWEST QUADRANT:
Ms. Dacy stated that on August 31, 1992, the Council requested that
the signage directing traffic to businesses in the southwest
quadrant during the reconstruction of Mississippi Street be
installed this fall and remain until the completion of the street
reconstruction. The City, not the HRA, will be responsible for the
installation and the cost of the signage.
9. FRIDLEY TOWN SOUARE UPDATE: �
Ms. Dacy stated that she spoke to Lowell Wagner (in partnership
with Don Fitch of the Dairy Queen), the other interested developer
that morning. According to Mr. Wagner, the owner of the property,
Theisen Partnership (or Norma 9wanson) essentially has two similar
offers, one from Scott Ericson and one from Lowell Wagner. The
offers say that either party will purchase the property within a
certain period of time and construct the development approved by
the Council in 1990.
10. LAKE POINTE NEGOTIATIONS:
Mr. Burns stated that during July and August, substantial progress
was made with Woodbridge Corporation toward the resolution of Lake
Pointe related issues. He stated that, assuming the City is going
to acquire the property, he would like to approach the County and
request that the penalties and interest on the back taxes be
waived. He would ask the HRA's concurrence to allow him to
discuss this with the County Auditor and Jim Kordiak, County
Commissioner, as this is fairly urgent. The amount of money at
stake is approximatel� $150,000. �
The HRA members concurred with this action.
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Mr. Casserly stated that regarding the negotiations, he hopes to
have all the agreements that need to be signed for the HRA by the
October meeting.
11. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RECOMMENDED HOUSING PROGRAMS:
Ms. Dacy stated she will divide her presentation into four areas:
1. Describe the issue.
2. Describe housing problems and identify them.
3. Go through recommendations identified in her September
3, 1992, memo.
4. Discuss future items and direction from the HRA.
Ms. Dacy stated that in April, the HRA had a joint meeting with the
Council, and they identified some of the values they h�d about
single family housing and multiple family housing, and whether they
should approach it on a community basis or a neighborhood basis.
Staff used that guidance and the results from the Maxfield study
and formed an 11 member interdepartmental staff team to develop
recommendations for housing programs.
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Ms. Dacy stated the following key areas became the basis for their
proposed solutions:
(1) structural condition of housing stock
(2) new developments
(3) cultural diversity
(4) neighborhood vitality
(5) ongoing maintenance
Ms. Dacy stated that regarding ongoing maintenance, staff
interviewed a number of other communities, and the first thing they
recommended was an aggressive inspection program.
Ms. Dacy stated staff did an extensive windshield survey, beyond
the Maxfield survey, and took count of the amount of abandoned
homes, homes that needed rehab, etc., and did that on a
neighborhood-by-neighborhood basis. The conclusion was that there
isn't any one neighborhood that is really bad, but there are
pockets in certain neighborhoods that really need some attention.
Ms. Dacy showed slides of existing housing in Fridley which need
rehabiliation and before and after pictures of a current rehab
proj ect .
Ms. Dacy stated there are two sets of recommended.solutions--five
�'"� primary strategies and several secondary strategies. The five
primary strategies as outlined in her memo are:
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1. Develop an "aggressive inspection program" and, in
conjunction, research potential ordinance amendments.
2. Scattered site acquisition and abandoned home programs
3. Actively pursue MHFA programs.
4. Institute a"Fridley Rehabilitation Loan Program".
5. Complete a Neighborhood Land.Use Planning process. �
Ms. Dacy stated that if they did everything listed in the five
programs, it would cost approximately $500,000 per year. Based on
Council direction, they are focusing more on a single family rehab
program, rental housing inspections and analyzing how that can be
approved, and, third, really taking a look at and starting the
scattered site acquisition. The missing element in this analysis
for the HRA is how the $500,000 fits into its program in terms of
budget now that they are approaching a conclusion on the Lake
Pointe site. Staff will come back with a better analysis of the
budget.
Ms. Dacy stated that there are a number of secondary strategies to
`..� address. These and other important factors are also documented in
her memo.
Ms. Dacy stated that a list of issues which the Gity Council and
HRA will need to decide in the future as they begin to implement
the recommended programs are:
1. Bonds versus banks
2. Big Brother versus Laissez Faire
3. In-house versus contracting out (house)
4. Condemnation versus cooperative acquisitions
5. How tough should we be with prosecution?
6. How much money should we spend for these programs and
where should they come from?
7. Sources of funding
Mr. Meyer stated the City should define specifically in the Code
what constitutes rental housing, both multiple and single family,
code violations, and then worry about the inspectors and how the
inspectors are going to enforce the Code. This is a terrible power
/"� a municipality takes on against its citizens, and they need to be
extremely careful to create the rules which the inspectors will
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have the power to enforce. They could be heading into something
very bad and very disagreeable for both the City Council and the
HRA, because there could be some mass reactions from the citizens
to this program, unless the program is very carefully thought out�
and aodified and then inspectors hired.
Ms. Dacy stated that the City has a current ordinance for rental
inspections that is good; but, because the staff does not have the
manpower to enforce the ordinance the way it should be, there are
a majority of units that are not being inspected for long periods
of time. Therefore, a lot of the rental units are going downhill.
Ms. Schnabel stated she believed the key is that the City's housing
stock, in total, is aging, and the rental units are no exception.
If they can try to keep those at least up to date so the health,
safety, and welfare of the tenants is protected, that is a key
element in an inspection program and it should be one of the HRA's
goals of an inspection program. However, she can see that they
cannot keep up with the amount of work there is to do with the
current staff and they will probably have to hire more staff.
Ms. Sc�nabel stated that, in addition to rental housing, there is
single family housing stock which, in some cases, is also
deteriorating. In those instances, the intent, as she understood
,,.•� it in the meeting with the City Council, was that they should start
to address their aging housing stock as well as multiple family and
start to look at some programs, not only monetary programs but a
maintenance code for the residents, to improve that housing.
Mr. Burns stated that if the City requires the potential loan
applicant to have a housing maintenance code inspection prior to
eligibility for the loan, those items that are identified on an
inspection have to be done whether the loan is approved or not.
So, anyone who subjects himself/herself to that inspection takes
a risk and it could cut down on the number of potential applicants
for the loan. Ideally, while they might want to enact a housing
maintenance code, there might be some very practical reasons to not
want to go that far.
Ms. Dacy stated another option is ta go a step further to a point-
of-sale housing inspection.
Mr. Meyer stated he has a grave concern for creating a big brother
monster...enforcing the inspections on multi-unit renters but going
easy on the single home renters. That is another way of giving
partial law enforcement. There are going to be some very heavy
financial burdens on some people that other people are going to
escape. It is going to be bad political PR, because the more the
City enforces it, the more people are going to be hurt.
�^ Ms. Dacy stated she met with Larry Commers, Chairperson, and his
comment on the rental inspe.ctions was that he understands the need,
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but wants staff to try to find some kind of program so that if the
inspections do turn up specific items that are going to cost a lot
of money, there is something that can be made available to the
multi-unit owner.
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Mr. Meyer stated he doesn't object to the principle; he is
concerned about the method.
Ms. Schnabel stat.ed Mr. Commer's point is well taken that if there
are any programs available for rental housing assistance, then they
should be looking at those. She believed their original intent was
strictly to keep the neighborhoods viable. She is concerned about
Fridley's overall appearance and overall viability.
Mr. Meyer stated maybe he is focusing too much on how individual
inspectors can be arbitrary and capricious in their judgments, but
he has seen that in other cities. He just did not want to see the
City get into the situation where they create a big brother
environment in terms of housing. As Ms. Dacy pointed out, there
are many rules and laws already on the books, and maybe they should
be re-examining these rules and laws.
Mr. Meyer stated he liked the recommended strategy regarding the
scattered site acquisition and abandoned home program. �
Mr. Burns stated that, hopefully, before the end of the year, staff
will have developed some recommendations for scattered site
housing.
Mr. Burns stated that the HRA has heard a discussion of the five
major elements of the progra�. Of these, the three major elements
are a housing rehab program, a scattered site housing program, and
the beefing up our existing rental inspections. Staff is
interested in whether the HRA believes staff is on the right track.
Ms. Schnabel stated she believed Mr. Meyer's point about having a
maintenance code for single family in effect is important.
Otherwise, she thought everything else looked good.
ADJOURNMENT•
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to adjourn the
meeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson
Schnabel declared the motion carried and the September 10, 1992,
Housing and Redevelopment Authority meeting adjourned at 10:20 p.m.
Res ectfully sub itted,
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Re rding Secretary