HRA 10/02/2003 - 29524CITY OF FRIDLEY
�, HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING
OCTOBER 2, 2003
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Commers called the October 2, 2003, Housing and Redevelopment Authority
meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Larry Commers, Virginia Schnabel, John Meyer, Pat Gabel, Bill Holm
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Scott Hickok, Community development Director
Paul Eisenmenger, HRA Accountant
Kimberlyn Nordling, 4301 McLeod St NE, Columbia Heights
lone Alaspa, 5925 3`d St NE
APPROVAL THE SEPTEMBER 4 2003 HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MEETING MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Holm, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to approve the September 4, 2003, HRA
minutes.
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Mr. Eisenmenger stated that on page 9, agenda item #7, second line of the first sentence, the
word "OSHA" should be changed to "OSA".
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE MINUTES APPROVED AS AMENDED.
CONSENT ITEMS:
1. CONSIDER RESOLUTIONS DECLARING SUBSTANDARD PROPERTY
,jRESOLUTION HRA 5 — 2003)
2. CONSIDER RESOLUTIONS AUTHORIZING INTERFUND LOANS FROM THE
GENERAL FUND�RESOLUTIONS HRA 3— 2003 AND HRA 4— 2003)
3. CLAIMS AND EXPENSES
4. APPROVE 2004 MEETING DATES
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to remove agenda item #1, �Consider
Resolutions Declaring Substandard Property" from the �Consent Items" and move it to the
"Action Items".
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to approve the Consent Agenda with the
removal of agenda item #1.
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UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE �
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ACTION ITEMS:
5. EVALUATE S-2 ZONING REQUEST FOR OLD CENTRAL PROPERTIES
Mr. Hickok stated the rezoning request is by Town Center Development LLC for the areas on
the west side of Old Central between Rice Creek Road and Mississippi Street. The rezoning
affects several parcels outside the proposed Town Center Development area. This area
includes Advance Companies, Ziebart, and two parcels owned by the HRA.
Mr. Hickok stated the HRA is being asked to consider the developer's proposal and whether to
consent to the S-2 rezoning request. The next step by the developer is to submit a formal
rezoning application for consideration by the Planning Commission and the City Council.
Mr. Hickok stated Town Center Development LLC of Maple Grove, Minnesota, is proposing a
55-unit senior condominium project. The units will be for sale and will be in the price range of
$!70,000 to $190,000. The proposal is for a four-story building with underground parking. All the
units will have two bedrooms and two bathrooms ranging in size from 1,138 square feet to 1,255
square feet.
Mr. Hickok stated the developer intends to keep the Sandee's Restaurant building and
undertake renovation work on that building. The home currently occupied by Tamarisk would be
removed for the development. The developer has control of the 3.5 acre parcel that includes ^
Sandee's, Tamarisk, and the vacant lot south of the parking area.
Mr. Hickok stated the development area is an odd mix of zoning designations. The City's current
thinking is to look at this entire area as one zoning classification, and that could be done through
an S-2, Redevelopment, rezoning.
Mr. Hickok stated this area has been identified in the Comprehensive Plan for redevelopment.
The HRA acquired the finro parcels in 1999 in anticipation of future redevelopment opportunities.
The S-2 zoning classification is most appropriate for redevelopment and allows greater flexibility
with regard to issues like density and setbacks.
Mr. Hickok stated the site plan is subject to review and approval by the City Council prior to
issuing building permits. Rezoning of the west side of the block avoids spot zoning and makes
the zoning consistent. Affected landowners, Ziebart and Advance, have already consented to
the rezoning request.
Mr. Hickok stated staff asks the HRA to consent to the rezoning to S-2 by Town Center
Development LLC for the parcels under the HRA's ownership, legally described as Lots 2, 3, &
5, Block 1, Herwal Rice Creek Terrace.
Mr. Commers asked if the developer was going to be seeking any assistance from the HRA.
Mr. Hickok stated that, thus far, the developer has not asked for any assistance.
Mr. Commers asked if there was any reassurance that the prices would remain in the $170,000 �
to $190,000 price range, or could the developer raise those prices?
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Mr. Hickok stated that since the City has no money in this project, it somewhat limits the City's
�� input on the developer's marketing strategy. But, the thing that might provide some comfort is
that the developer did have a marketing study, a demographic analysis, and a financial analysis
done to determine what this area would support. The developer has been very careful in the
preliminary stages of the development to listen to the results done by housing consultants. One
of things the consultants told the developer was that the market values should reside in this
price range. So, all indications are that the developer is going to work very hard to make that
happen.
Mr. Commers asked if the City Council would review and approve the quality that goes into this
project.
Mr. Hickok stated there is a master plan approval with an S-Z zoning, and the City Council will
have the authority to ask a lot of questions about that master plan and to make comments,
suggestions, and stipulations, if necessary.
Ms. Schnabel asked if Town Center Development LLC has built a similar project in the
metropolitan area.
Mr. Hickok stated Town Center Development LLC has done quite a bit of development in the
metropolitan area, and City staff has visited some of these developments. Other developments
are in Maple Grove and Brooklyn Park in the northern metro area and on the east edge of the
metro area. Staff has digital photos of those projects and can make them available to the HRA if
they are interested. They are very nice projects.
� Ms. Schnabel stated one thing that concerned her was the underground parking, because she
believed this area is a rather wet area.
Mr. Hickok stated the developer needs to do an overall civil analysis that would have hydrology
included. The design of the parking garage is probably more accurately stated as half below
grade and half above grade.
Mr. Meyer asked what will happen to Sandee's Restaurant?
Mr. Hickok stated the developer intends to revamp the restaurant building, to change a lot of the
exterior character of the building, to make it better co-exist with the condominium project. The
developer sees this as an opportunity to provide some convenience for seniors in that area.
Mr. Hickok stated the City has asked the developer to also work with the County to consider
things like additional right-of-way and/or access onto the County roadway. The County has
indicated it is interested in up to 30 more feet of width of right-of-way on the northern side along
Mississippi Street running full east and west of the development and up to 10 feet along the
eastem edge (western side of Old Central). That puts the property lines at the building face itself
for Sandee's Restaurant. So, at minimum, the City would be asking the developer to consider a
different arrangement so the building is not right on the right-of-way. It was and again is starting
to become more of a common practice to see property lines close to building walls. So that, in
and of itself, if the developer can deal with the outdoor dining area, would not be an issue that
would stop the development.
Mr. Commers stated he thought the Sandee's Restaurant building had some preservation rights.
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Mr. Hickok stated he believed the history of the building is being researched. It is probably one
of Fridley's most aged and historic buildings.
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Mr. Holm asked what are the uses and/or restrictions of the S-2 zoning?
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Mr. Hickok stated the S-2 zoning is really open to master plan review and approval so the
spectrum of zoning uses in the City would be possible in an S-2 development district; however,
the City Council has the ultimate authority in the decision-making process. It is a lot like a
planned unit development where there are some "give and take" issues such as setbacks in
favor of the developer, but ultimate review of uses and the discretion to say "no" lies with the
City Council. That is different than in standard zoning.
Ms. Gabel asked if the development would have any common rooms for the homeowners.
Common areas that can be used for gatherings and activities help develop a"sense of
community".
Mr. Hickok stated there are some common areas off the lobby at the ground floor level of the
building. He believed both buildings, the 55 unit building proposed by Town Center
Development, and the 88-unit senior condominium being proposed by a different developer for
the southeast comer of Mississippi Street and Old Central would have a guest suite for invited
guests can stay. Also, the 55-unit building has been set into the landscape for common space
for outdoor enjoyment as well.
Mr. Meyer stated that after the rezoning is approved and later down the line, can the HRA or the
City insist on the standards of construction and appearance to be incorporated into the project?
Mr. Hickok stated the HRA has the ability to do that on its own properties. On the property
being considered by Town Center Development, the City has the power of suggestion and the
ability to review building elevations as part of the master plan. The choice of construction �
materials is really a developer decision and is directly related to what they see in the market and
what they need to price the units to make the project work. So, there is some ability, but no total
control.
Mr. Commers stated Mr. Meyer has made a good point. He does not remember staff ever
coming to the HRA in the past asking that the HRA recommend approval of a rezoning when
they are not directly involved. Is a recommendation to mean the HRA approves the project? Can
they send a message through the rezoning that the HRA is interested and comfortable with the
redevelopment of the area? He is not sure he wants it to be construed that the HRA is
recommending this particular project.
Mr. Hickok stated that is an excellent point. He believed the HRA can send the message that
their decision to endorse the S-2 rezoning does not necessarily endorse the Town Center
Development project, but that the HRA does endorse redevelopment consistent with the
Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Commers stated it appears that without the HRA lots, the proposed development would
have a drainage problem. So, that is another issue. At this point, the HRA has not seen any
development plans, and he is not sure the HRA should just automatically agree to approve this
rezoning without more information on the project.
Mr. Hickok stated that in both cases, the developers are planning their own on-site storage for
ponding. So, those are issues that cannot be addressed at this time.
Mr. Commers stated he did not see a problem in saying the HRA is amenable to redevelopment �
in this area and just leave it at that.
Mr. Meyer stated he liked that generalized view.
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^ MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, that the HRA is in favor of redevelopment
in the area around Old Central Avenue and Mississippi Street.
Mr. Hickok stated that without the HRA's approval of the S-2 rezoning for the Town Center
Development, the rezoning will fail. It is important that the HRA know that the City could not
eliminate just the HRA parcels from the rezoning. In order to make the development fit matching
the larger vision of a master plan development, the whole block needs to be rezoned to S-2, as
opposed to pieces of it. However, it would be appropriate for the HRA to say they agree with
redevelopment, that S-2 as a zoning designation on the HRA parcels is acceptable, but it does
not mean the HRA is necessarily endorsing the Town Center project. This then says only that
the rezoning is right, but not necessarily the master plan.
MOTION TO AMEND by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, that the HRA approves and
supports redevelopment in this area, has no objection to the HRA lots being rezoned to S-2, but
is not specifically approving the Town Center Development LLC project and would want some
approval of the final project if it is going to include the HRA's lots.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. CONSIDER RESOLUTION DECLARING SUBSTANDARD PROPERTY
�RESOLUTION HRA 5— 2003) -(moved from Consent Items)
Ms. Schnabel asked if the dwellings at 5917 3`� Street and 5923 3�d Street are declared
� "substandard", does that mean they must be demolished, or are they salvageable where an
outside party can purchase the buildings and move them to another location?
Mr. Hickok stated the necessity to declare substandard housing is directly tied to the City's
desire to redevelop and create an tax increment district. This step is necessary for the City to
say that substandard housing existed, and demolition could happen. This would allow them to
begin demolition prior to creating the tax increment district. But, as Ms. Schnabel suggested, if
someone was interested in purchasing a house and moving it elsewhere, that is possible
because that house may not be substandard somewhere else.
Mr. Meyer stated he has a problem with "structurally substandard" as defined in the Tax
Increment Act. Where are they with respect to those words?
Mr. Hickok stated �substandard" is a broad area and covers more area than just the structural
integrity of the building. By the HRA authorizing staff to evaluate this and later create a tax
increment district, they are allowing staff to utilize the findings of their analysis to contribute to
the blight that is necessary, whether substandard characteristics or blight characteristics, to
include the property in creating a tax increment district.
Mr. Commers stated the resolution as written does make the finding; it isn't just that staff may
go out and find whether something exists. It should be based at this moment on the HRA having
sufficient evidence to make the finding. So, if the HRA approves this resolution, he is assuming
that staff will have backup data that allows the HRA to make that finding.
Mr. Hickok stated that is correct. Unfortunately, Mr. Fernelius was unable to attend the meeting
� as he could describe precisely what has happened and precisely the analysis that has been
done, etc. If the HRA is not comfortable in approving this resolution, it can be tabled until the
next meeting.
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Mr. Commers stated he believed the HRA needs fairly specific support for a finding. Then, staff
can provide more factual support at the next meeting. ^
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to table consideration of a resolution
declaring substandard property until the November meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
INFORMATION ITEMS:
7. GATEWAY WEST UPDATE
Ms. Alaspa stated the City wants to buy their property at 5925 3`" Street, and they are willing to
sell if they can get the same replacement housing payment that was given to the neighbors at
5923 3"� Street. There is a$5,000 difference. They also have a$3,000 grant debt, and they
would like to have half (the City's half� of that forgiven as they did some remodeling about a
year ago through the HRA's remodeling program.
Ms. Alaspa stated she and her husband are both disabled, and any house they move into has to
suit their needs. They cannot do things like painting or repairs, such as wider doors and railings,
as the home would have to be handicap accessible.
Mr. Hickok stated he would recommend that they not negotiate at this meeting. He would invite
the Alaspas to come back for more discussions and talk about the things necessary in a
handicap-accessible home. Staff has not had an opportunity to discuss those things. �--1
Mr. Commers stated it would good for the Alaspas to meet with staff again and see if some
mutual arrangements can be made. He thanked them for coming to the meeting.
8. UPDATE ON SITE PLAN AMENDMENTS FOR COLUMBIA PARK CLINIC
Mr. Hickok stated this is an information item. It is a master plan modification. The Columbia Park
Medical Group are proposing minor modification to their building, landscaping, and parking.
Since this is a master plan, this is not something that was decided just administratively, but had
the consideration of the HRA as well. These plans were included in the HRA's agenda packet.
Mr. Hickok stated Columbia Park Medical Group plans to expand the building approximately
10,000 square feet. The expansion will be in finro areas, a two-story addition in the northwest
corner and an addition on the eastern face that bumps out the building somewhat to create a
finro-story addition that will architecturally match what exists but provides a better intemal floor
plan.
Mr. Hickok stated that 163 parking stalls are required, but the modification will increase the
parking to 244 parking stalls, so even with the addition, the clinic will be well above the required
parking. Staff believes this is a favorable solution for the Columbia Park Clinic in that the clinic
cleans up some irregularities about the site, in addition to better circulation and a landscape
plan that is suitable and attractive for the site.
Mr. Hickok stated the modified master plan will also go the Planning Commission and City
Council for authorization and approval. ^
Ms. Schnabel and Mr. Meyer expressed concern about the narrowing of stalls from 10 feet to 9
feet, particularly with all the new large SUVs, vans, and trucks.
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^ Ms. Schnabel stated she would like to see staff recommend a mix of widths for the parking—
some 10 feet wide and some 9 feet wide.
Mr. Commers stated that if it would work, the 9 foot-wide stalls should be for employee parking.
9. UPDATE ON TIF PLAN AMENDMENTS
Mr. Commers stated he did not believe any action is necessary, other than that they need to
understand that they are going to have to make some technical amendments in order to protect
their funds and shift them around.
Mr. Hickok stated that is correct. The calendar for the proposed chronology modification of
Redevelopment Project No. 1 and Tax Increment Financing Districts Nos. 1, 2, 3, 6, 7. 9, 11, 12,
13, 14, 16, 17 is included in the agenda packet.
10. 2004 HRA BUDGET PREPARATION UPDATE
Mr. Hickok stated a draft of the 2004 HRA budget should be available for the November meeting
for discussion and changes, with a final draft available at the December meeting.
11. MONTHLY HOUSING REPORT
Mr. Hickok stated Mr. Fernelius was not at the meeting to highlight anything in the Housing
Report; however, he would be glad to try to answer any questions.
� Mr. Meyer stated he was just curious why more people were not taking advantage of these
great programs being offered by the City.
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Mr. Hickok stated the City does try to promote the programs through available information at the
front counter at the Municipal Center, through the City newsletter, and at the annual North Metro
Garden Fair. Even this meeting serves as a commercial. Staff would welcome people to call in
and get the information they need to change the characteristics of their home and more wisely
spend their energy dollars.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION made by Ms. Gabel, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to adjourn the October 2, 2003, HRA
meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED AND THE OCTOBER 2, 2003, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT
AUTHORITY MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:25 P.M.
Res ectfully sub itted,
Lyn Saba
Recording Secretary