PL 06/16/1959 - 30050�
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PLANNIA�G CQI�iNiISSION MEETING
June 1$, 1959
Tuesd�y
The a�eet3ng was called to order by Ghaiz�aa,n Segner at 7:30 F.Mo Membsra
preaent �era Se�ner, the Engineer, �enner, Kravik, and Bandelo A�ir. Fontai.ne
was abaento
Ths first ite� cvnsidered was ti�e Lyndale Buildera 9 P1at. The Ez�;ineer
explained the correction to be made in the May 26, 1959 minuf,eso The �.00Ov00
park Yund is to be chan�ed to 5� of the propertq va3.ue, which would be �'�675,(?Oo
Mr, Kx�avik made a motion that the �2000.00 dedication to the City for park pus��
poaes, be amended to read �675000. Motian aeconded by Mr. $ernzer. Ca.rriedo
Note: This change is due to error in calaulations in acreage of plato
The next canaideration was a request by Leonard Cochran fbr rezo�ningo
Mr. Cochran stated that reEOning was necessar�r to enable him to erec�� a con=
cret.e black building� 30� ]C 9Oei to house his heavy equipment�and machfnery,
Mr. Petersaui 6312 Pierce Street, stated that he liv�es aeross the sti*est f�°a�m
abov�e psoperty; and that he is definitely opposad to,any multiple dwelling or
heavy truck or tsactor traffic on Pierce Street, as there are too many smal.I
children in this arsao Mr. George DeMarais, 61a1 Pierco Street, stated that
he has same situa�ion as Mr. P+eterson. �Ie further atated that strest ie full
of holea na�rs and t�rucke xould only make it worsee He felt that as lon� as
property had been �on�d residential far six or sev�en y�ears, it should remain
that �,ray. He was stronglp opposed to any rezoningo Mr. Se�ner explair�ed that
a�y citizen has a right to request resoni.ng on his property, and that it f�
ths duty of the City to go thrauAh proper psocedures, when such a request is
made. Mr. Segner ful�y explainad each step in this procedure. He aleo ex�
plaiaed thst City had been going bey�o�td thia regular procedure, in send�.ng out
perso�a]. notieea to all property awryera in srea eoneernede Mr. Bergmans
61t35 ps,sroo street, st4t�d t�t t�is Yeslinge Msre the aa�.s aa Mr. I�teraori a s
aad ilr. D�Marais � s, and t�at h� xae d�tiAitel,y oppo�sd. i�r. Coahr� stat,ed .
that t.h�t�e ron1,8 be no t.ruak trafYio on Pierce 3trsst, aa there �rould be na
aceess aes Pi�ro�. Mr. SsRasr asiosd Nr. Cochran vhether or not he had made so9.1.
teata can propertyo Mr. Cochran replied that he had, and resulta �ere �hite sand.
Mr. Ber�a stated that hia car had been stuek, snd it had to be Lpn�sd aut,
Mr. DeMaraia atated that City fire tru�ck had bsen atuak. Ae furth�sr atsted that
ares i�a qusation vaa t!� only place available �or children t,o play in. !!r. Aerg_
man inquirsd if Bill Weias property had besn put up for 8als. Mr. Ssgr�er replied
tiutt Commission lrnest �thing about this. Mr. Coahran stated that hia property,
for �s1eh re�oning �aa requested, had �7�500,00 baak ta�aes aPainet it. Mr. Seg-
ner, after i.nquiring if there xas a�yoae else to be heard, declared hearing
clossd. Thia consi.deration waa tabled� pending t'utnre �termfnaticn of lutura
actiou c� rna�er,
Mro Ir�ria Mand�el and Mr. Boy�er Pala�er x�ere present � to speak f or re�oning of
Bsnoett-Pa'i�sr Addition. Mr, Msndel e�cplained that #.hey are p�eeently eonatruct-
3x� hooea fa Block 5 and part of Bloek 2. He atated that they xould pa�t in buf-
far strip in ares they xant resonsd eoamrercisl (1�1), and that comnere3al builciinga
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Woiil.d a�et back on Univ�ereityQ He a9.so s4;a.a.ied that a 30 foot existing essement
�as nrn,r bei.n� used as street, Mro George Epstein� 59�0 - ttth Street (i,ot ll�
Block �)� explafned that there are I2 or 13 children in an are� of fiv� homese
and they definif.ely do not wani heav�r cormnercial ��affic i.n this araa. He f�ax°m
ther stat�d thaL people in area deYinit�ly wani:ed an a11ey in H1ock 3, and that
they were a11 �rilling to �tition for ito He atated, in speakang for homo own=
ers of area, that they are in favor of using 30� emsemen� for access to �s� in
and ou�, Mr. Palmer stated that I35� 2o�s wou�.d be cut in half, lea�.ng 70 f�o
buffer aoneo Mr. Epsiein staf.ed that m�riy of the opposing home owners could no�
be present, due to the Pact tt�y work nights. Mr. Segner explained tha� these
peop�,e could f`ila lettere of protest, if they wishedo Mr. Schubert, Z525 o Itth
Street, stated that he doea not wi.sh to live in a comm�ercial deve�.opwer�t, and
that he xaa not aware of this possibility When he bought his hcuneo He further
stated that the rear area of any commercial de�elop�aent is usually messys and
that ��as dsf3.nitsly opposed to loadir� erea in rear, He is definii',e3.y oppos�
ed to resoning, and xould like to knm�r type oY future commercial. buildings to
be put in, fur�her e�cplained. Mr. Cheater porf, 5901 a?�th St,,a►�et N,E,� atated
that he �s agaiast resoning. Mr. Epatein inquired �p 59th �t�reet had been
vacated. Mro 3egnar axp9.ained tha,t th3a wae before p�resent P7.arming Caum�iesion
came into bsiago Tt�e F�ineer pointed out that the City Attorneq is na�r in the
procsss of cl�ckia� abatracts to firid out when thia xcurs�eds and juat hox it
aame about. Mr. Epetein requested that Mr. PaLner explain type oP design he
^ tiriahea to pait in propoaed commercial area. Mr. PaLaer raplied thaL it�ey have
nothing clef'i,ntte in �nind at this t.ime� and thaL they do not wi.sh t.o de-valuate
P�'oPert , aa they are ateo dev�aloping adjacent residentisi area. Mra. Schuberta
1525 -�th Street, etated that tt�ey did not �ant to spend a liYe sav3r�gs ior a
hame, and hav�e s meeay acam�eraial area acraas the street. Mr. Segner, after in�
quiring if thers xaa anyone sl� to be heard, declared the hearin� elosede Pro�
poaal xas tabled untii neat meeti�g.
lka�t, �ras a jc3nt aonsidsratioa bst�n Planning Cameiaaia� and the Board
o� APp�alsa � P�'oP�d �nbnmbsn �tnit�at3oaa Coi'po�atiort Rroj�t. Mr. Plt��
Philbrioo !'irs reprssazt,ative, explainsd broehure d�acribinA inei.�srator unit
sho�inR artiat�s slostch o! what buildi�g �auld look Iiloe upon completio�. Ae
e�cplait�d tt�at it xauld be a aampleta7,y e�elosed operation� and that �eaerai],y
sPe�, P�t iauld be loeated in irlduatrial area. Ae explained ho� eiaiilar
inetallatiocu� hicl bsea v+eiy euceesaf�l iu other parte of the aountry, aad that
p�ant s+oald sidd to t.a�c ata�ucturs af Fridley. Plsrtt would e�a�ploy atoloer w�it,
�ritb p�asisior� !or atorag�e for ash, that Qaosa out traa und�sr unit. 3p�qy srash
xou7.d �1Leinate ga�sra that xould be diapersed, lrom burnirig opsratia�. The En�i-
�ser asiosd lm�v aon-caa�bnatible n�t,arial �ou1d be talcen aar+e oto l�r. P1um replied
that it �o�uld have t,o be trucked out to 7.arid fi11 area. B�ngineer further inquir.•
ed abaut poaaibility ot rat►s. l+Ir. Plu� statsd that there ia no problem af thi�
kind xith thia typs ot plartt, Mr. 3ep,ner i.nquired about xhat tirae meant by
"rillag� or city participat3.on". Mr. P1um replied that th�ey are r+eesi,virig fran-
ehisea ir�om citiea xho xiah to psrticipaie� and that sf.se o! unit depends on the
nwnber ot people participating in eollection proces�. Mr. Ssgner asked strol�t
the terme of the Pranchiae. 1�Ir. Flum atafi�ed that booklets wer8 given out ta
r-� Cowsail M�bera and to Mr. 1�tad�rs esPlai�in6 aaid franchise. Mre Kra�rik inqvir-
ed �hat a!lsat suoh laainerat3au �rould have a� psrsona particip4ting ia our
� City �rethod o! garbage diapoaal. �r. Rou� �ra �aaae t�s roito�
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"%ir�t oPf, I think t�te should tal� a view of the whole situation. I
have the T�rin City Disposal Sarvice, We have cantracts �rith Colwnbia Hei�ht;:,
and Robbinsdal�. We do comp2et� aervi.ce for theza. Fridley has nothing but
land fill for a17, reftiae. This has to s�t,ap. No orbe wi13 to3erai:e dump�. Tt�is
ia prob],e�m facting people Who aYfer these services.'r
Mr. Myera apolc+e v�ery strong3y in fawr o� need of such plant, by reaso� of
scarcity of Iand fill areas. He also gav�e approxi.mate pick�up tonnage and
char�e3 of "'100� a month Por such service, with the possible decreasin� of
charges, based upon the ever incr�asing number of usar�� Hr, �olandera proper�y
owner acroas the street framl proposed sani�Gation sits, stated tha�,t he is m�ucta
oppoaed to said plant goin� in, He a190 poinied out that ther� ar� 9ev�an �iou���
in thie area, and rent,f ra �ovld ab ject to aii incineraior plan�, plus i� effee,t��
ing his crMm �`3lt,000o00 property inves�ent. Mr. Harvey Cartwrip,ht e�..ated that
ha Waa opgosed to plant. He pointed out tha� future induatriee wnuiri consider
such a plant undsaireable, and that proposed plsnt would be 2335 than � mi�.Q
Yrom our water supply� and that hea'�uh is dependant upon good ��ater, rlr. Lo Rn
Smith ata'`�,ed that he thou�ht surroundin� land �rould depreciat.e, with su�h a
plant canir� 3.n. Mr, Joseph Zil.4ak, 2523 Ca,Iifornia Street, i.nq��ir�d aa �co t�ow
man�► t,z�ucka would be operatingo i�ir. °1um reglisd about two or threc� trucl�s an
hovr. Mr. John Zelleniak, }�? 0 821 Sireet A(aE6, stated that he thou�ht ii �ras
important for Planning Commiasion to jud�e �ha.t indusirv ahouid go 3.nto cert�.in
^ areaa, based on hiphest and bss� use o� land� and t,hat p;arbage c3i�pesal p3.an�;
could riot be conei.dered as the hi�;hesi type oY induatry, nor a credit to nn�r
cor.�munity. H� further stated that he thou�ht people would mov� out, i.f gu�h �,
plant were to cwne ins due to decreaae in property valueo l�r. My�ere point.ed ou�;
that tt�ay hav+e a choice oY three or fnur plant sites� alI Tai.ihin a fex bio�t� o�'
one another, but that Fridley site is thei.r firat choi.�e; and if Ciiy turned
down the proposal, they had another site in mind, within twn blo�� of I�ar�k�ll
A�►enua at 37th Averiue, Mro Benner inouired as to wha.t type of re8uss coul�3 bs
burriedo .�Ir, :Ryers replied tha.t all �arba�;g, caas9 bottle�, �oxes, branches, l��m
clippingas etco - all normal waste plus same industrial wastao t�ro Kravik ��k�d
how individual citi.zens wauld be 3nvoivedv � P�ir, My�srs sf.a.ted that ref use �ol�+ � y'v
tors �rould be ardered to use plant�. "or disposa].o I�e Segner poinfided o�it thav �
Citq �nar� to give plant a fran�hise q said City wou3d, in eff�ct�be underwx �.t:.n�
this pmpos�d ventux� to guarantee a 6� return on privat,e inveatment�@ I�x°� T2��.�x��
atated, that in order fi,o �et finaxtcing bonding �ompany insists th�� fix°st se+.:�r�
a franchise� Nira �e�ner ��ked 3� there was an3rone elee to ba hea�� on thi� ma�it,�ro
There xas no reply� so hearin� was declared closed�,
Neata was coneideration of rsqv.est by Cy �{ost±isn �or rezoning, Mr. Bud �mith�
representinp :4ro Koshi.en, axplained that �ri�Ko Comgany �rould like to put �.n small
machine shop. The En�ineer pointed out that th�rP is spat �on�g i,ti this ar�a�
alxeady containing a used c�,r lo� and �mall con�rete bloCk msnufe,cturir�; plarit��
Mro Sep,ner oacplai.n�ed that a portion of tlis land is to be taken by �he State hi�h�
way Department� and he pointed out tt� 14ngth of tim�: it �•ou].rl 4,at�a �Go reque�� ���
zaning, and to carry procedura thz�ough, Public hearing �as �et ror July il�� 19590
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Coosidrsati4n ot proposed trai]�r oap�P� DY Bt�d 9�ittt, xas 2'lstt• t4. 8eg•
a�ar s�d tbat Mr. S�nith tske thia up dirsat]y xl.th City Cocmoil, in roQMsr
to tind oat t� or not they intea�d to oh�s ps�esent ordiaanos p�ohibit3�a6
an�r' t'qt�oi� t,r�til,�r wa�ps.
,ttr. H313aan�� TiAberlane Plat uas �sxt ccosidersQ. The 8�inser �tplained
t�at this plat i�od b�eti co��sid�trd by Plata and fi�bd�ivisio�s Ooesissioei oei
�ms 9� 1999. A� ibrt,�er explaiaed td�ti heariag date oould aot bs s�� antil all
d�esi�pn d4t�a is r�ived Yrom conault.a�ts. Mr. Aoptcins� Billman �'s �.
p�sinsd thtL plat h6�t1 been checl�ed for stseet design, and thaE Colt�bia AoiRhte
had giv�n tentatiire ap�oval of p]�a.t. Ae requeated a s3mi].ar o�s�•4Z,1 tpal;at,ttre
a�p?�aoce� in ordsr to enable th�t to g0 �head xith atreet deei�. !�. 1G�avik
mo�rsd aaoept�nas o! preli.mina:y giat, snbject ta approvai. ot etrset gradsa� snd
at.ilit,� empl3�mces wi.th Cc2nmbia Hei.�ta, and our rnm CitY Consnitins BY�inssrs
vith et�oh app�avsl to come �soms City Attorr�►. geconded by Nr. Bsm�er.
Csrrisd. '
The Daan Aarat�ad aonsiderat,ion ie to be continned, ia order to p�rsit
^ 8�inssrl�g Ottiae to run a field aurvsy� ats to aatnal houas loast.ioos fu ttie .
ar�a introlved� �ad fi.o pz�ES�;nt opporbutYity !or noseible ftiiture aacoses roads to
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Platt�3t� l►N Ordi.aance �►ae micoosid�d� du� to lstetrea ot lwt�.
i�M�t�ag � at�onr�ed at 12sOQ P.M.
Hat�'y H. Eirct�ati
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