PL 07/27/1967 - 7237��
�:; ` r�. � "^__ .
� J
` � � —i.
� � • `, �J�` ` l �-
Y �u�, _
% " �/� �_ �, ;i s . >� E . , r .z� , . �, �
`�';7 -c`�1 c....� -
�' !,-,I��'�'!� I..i ... `"✓� - .
7'7�-�� . _ .. s,. _ �, � _ " _ " � _
�.� `� ��i 3 ��
A G E N D A
PLAi�TNING COMMISSION M�l'ING JULY 27, 1967
ROLL CALL:
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION M�NUTES OF JTJLY 13, 1967
RECEIVE MINUTES OF BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CON'I'ROL
MEETING OF JULY_ 11
PLATS &
fu1�i�11��►(l��la!!10lM!
�1
ORD�t OF AGENDA
��L������:?�
:.
1. VACATION REQUEST: SAV #67-03, ROBE�tT MINDER: Vacation of
Charles Street between Anna Street and Mississippi River
2. CONTINIIID REZONING REQUEST ZOA #63-02, MRS. FLORENCE
SWANSON & BERNARD JULKOWSKI: Easterly end of Ironton &
a3jacent to Ashton Street, AuditorTs Subdivision #I03
arid Ironton Industrial Park.
3. PI,ANNID DEVELOPMENT - P�tELIlKINARY PLANS : HAROLD SCHROIDII�
Bourdeaux Spring Brook Park
Pages 1-6
Pages 7-9
Pages 10-12
Page 13
Pa,�es 14
. �
, � _ y.,�
; ��- f f-,, �
, ; ,. _.
,� ,u.r . .i '� :� � , :.�;,� .
�e l j_.' �/ J� �:�� � J � J 4'i // � a /: .'SO - L- o``J..
`__P'."S_ ,_e �yt.�,: � i c' • . . � .
,S7a.�• � .
4 �� . � rn � - �:� ..z :�
�� �'� � 9 �� s � - ,�( G_ c � -. � ,.'r � � — � %�,, ..
Y
,� PLANNING CONIMISSION MEETING � JULY 13, 1967
ROLL CALL•
Page 1
The meeting was called to order by Vice Chairman Erickson.
Memders present: Jensen, Erickson, Ylinen
Members absent: Hughes, Myhra
Others present: Acting City Manager Brunsell,
Engineering Assistant Clark
APPROVE MINUTES OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEFTING: JUNE 22, 1967
MOTION by Ylinen, seconded by Jensen, that the Planning
Commission minutes of June 22, 1967 be approved. Upon a voice
vote, all vcting aye, the motion carried.
RECE NE MINUTES OF BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING: JUNE 28, 1967:
MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Ylinen, that the Planning
Commission receive the minutes of the Board of Appeals Meeting
of June 28, 1967. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion
carried.
�, RECEIVE MINUTES OF PLATS & SUBDIVISIONS-PiiREETS & UTILITIES SUBCOrt�i'[ITTEE
MEETING: JUNE 29, 1967:
�
MOTION by Ylinen, seconded by Jensen, that the Planning
Coaunission receive the minutes of the Plats & Subdivisions-
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee meeting of Ju�e 29, 1967.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the �otion carried.
ORDER OF AGENDA:
The:e was no change in the order of agenda.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING REQUEST, ZOA ��63-02, MRS. FLORENCE SWANSON
AND BERNAR.D JULKflWSKI: Easterly end of Ironton and adjacent to
Ashton Street, Audito:'s Subdivision 4�1d3 and Ironton Industrial Park.
Engineering Assistant Clark said one of the reasons bringing
t�!is item back to the Planning Co�issian is that the City is
contemplating paving Hugo Street. It is in need of a turn around
or a street going north to Irontor.. Our department talked to
Mrs. Swanson about getting the right of way, but feels the problem
of zoning should be solved €irst, then she is willing to dedicate.
� Planning Commission Meeting - July 13, 1967 Page 2
It has been suggested that the City purchase this land
for park purposes, but we do not know what she feels the land
is worth .
Vice Chairman Erickson said on Page 19, Memo Number
CM ��67-25 from the City Engineer, Paragraph ��1, there is
a statement that water and sewer utilities are running
between Hugo and Iron,ton. They would be in the proposed
right of way.
In answer to the Vice Chairman's question of wishing to
know exactly what the rezoning request is now, is it the same
as you originally proposed, the Engineering Assistant answered
"yes". He added, there was a motion for denial before the
Planning Commission and the Council. Mr. Qureshi asked that
it be advertised and put on the agenda.
Hugo Skrandies, 195 Hugo: I asked Mrs.Swanson why she
can't build homes there? Why apartments? What kind of apart-
ments can she build other than second-class when there is
industrial across the street. I am opposing the rezoning.
� Mrs. Florence Swanson, 3254 Arthur St. N.E.: The City
Engineer called me to his office to discuss a cul de sac for
Hugo Street and also plan what the remainder of my property
could be used for. We ran into problems such as how we can
have access to the back yards without having the homes face
the factory. Also, we can't get financing. I understand that
eventual?y in the future, they would like to vacate a portion
of Ironton Street because of truck traffic. If it can't be
rezoned to R-3, I would like to have some indication what I
should build there.
Ralph Officer, 315 Hugo St. N.E.: We talked about
Bernard Julkowski as being involved in the request. Property
boundaries indicate in the notice that Mr. Julkowski does not
own any of the land we are considering tonight.
The Engineering Assistant said the hearing notice covers
just the Swanson parcel. The notice itself does not include
anything below Mrs. Swanson's property.
Mr. Officer distributed maps colored to show Mrs. Swanson's
property, Mr. Julkowski's property, the new Planned Development
project owned by Howard Dumphy, and the undeveloped area west of
Julkowslci' property.
It was explained that the Plat (Ironton Industrial Park) has not
Planning Commission Meeting - July 13, 1967 _ Page 3
been recorded and that is why Mr. Julkowski is not a fee owner, however,
� it was approved about three years ago. Ashton Avenue will not be a
dedicated street until the plat is recorded.
Norman Tuomie, 304 Ironton St. N.E.: He wished to voice a contrary
opinion in opposition to this type of rezoning. Z`he area is basically
residential. My parents and myself have our homes here under the assump-
tion it would be a residential area. The rezoning from residential to
multiple dwellings would be spot zoning. T would be opposed to it.
Robert Venne, 200 Hugo Street: He wished to voice his opposition
to allowing the change in zoning to R-3A. I understand the utilities
are on Ashton Avenue. Is it impossible that Ashton Avenue could be
changed. The answer was that it depends upon how the sewer and water could
be utilized. He asked "Is there a plan to vacate Ironton Street so as
to not allow traffic to go through Ashton Avenue?" The answer was negative,
although there was a proposal by the City Planner to do so. He th�n asked
that if it were vacated, would it be from Mrs. Swanson's property to
Ashton? He was informed that Ironton could not be vacated unless there
were a street to the north. It is proposed to go all the way through to
University Avenue. He asked why Ashton was put where it is, and that if
the edge of Ashton had lined up with the edge of M-1, there would be a
natural barrier.
Mrs. Swanson commented that these people are objecting to living close
to apartment buildings, but they are asking someone to build homes and
^ these homes will be across from a factory. The factory has no landscaping
and it is not attractive, certainly a good looking apartment would be much
nicer to look at.
Mr. Skrandies: I would suggest that this land be sold for individual
homes and believe the property is good for homes. She wants to sell the
whole property or build an apartment.
Mrs. Kenneth Sporie, 301 Ironton St.: I went to the meeting a year ago.
It seemed it was approved. What happened to Ashton Avenue?
Acting Chairman Erickson said in that area we have an industrial area
created some time ago and we would like to get the traffic in and out of
there. Ashton is a designated municipal state aid street.
Mr. Venne showed on the blackboard another proposal for Ashton Avenue
but after discussing setback requirements, etc., it was not feasible.
Mr. Charles Seeger, 324 Ironton St.: Would you have to buy some of
the property if you csnnot get it dedicated? Is it correct that if you are
going to run a street, the City would have to buy enough to make it 40 feet
wide? How is the value of the land you are going to purchase determined?
If you have to buy 40 feet of 200 feet,it is 20% of the property. Why not
buy it all for park purposes?
� 1�e Engineering Assistant said that we already are occupying 30 feet.
Ronald Zaczkowski, 314 Hugo Street: I am opposed to the rezoning.
T,
/'�
�
P11]1711I1y Ci0AGI11SS1021 ilceti.nR - July 13, 1.9G7 Pa�c 4
Paul Elegen, Zb'O IY011i:011: If: I had to live in an apar�men�, I caould
want to be in an area convenient to shoPpin� centers etc. and if rtrs
S�ranson werc
reni: tor th�:
rezoning.
U ) j •
to Uuiid liere, I do.i't believe she could geL a good monttily
�ype of building people would rent. I am opposed to tlic
Mr. Seeger aslced if it caould be possible to put this request aside.
rfOTlOi�i by Ylinen, seconded by Jensen, that the Plannino Connnission
close the public hearing ai the rezoning request, ZOA ,�63-02, rirs. Florence
St�anson and Bcrnard Ju1ko���sl:i of the easterly end of Ironton and adjacent
to Ashton Street, Auditor's Subdivision j�I03. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, the motioii carried un�.nimously.
MOTIOid by Jensen, seconded 'oy Ylir_en, to amend the above motion and
refer the rezonino request, ZOA �r63-02, �irs. Florence S�•�anson and Bernard
Julkocaski to rezone from R-I. to R-3A to the Plats & Subdivisions-Strects &
Utilit-ies Subco�rl-�ittee for revieta, and to refer to the Parks and Recreation
Comniission for study, and table until tiie neht meeting of July 27, 1967.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the rtotion carried unanimously.
Acting Chairman Erickson said the only thind the Planning Comsnission
can do as far as the road whicli has not been dedicated, is to ask tlie City
to try to get the dedication. This partzcular Cor�r,iission is composed of
four ne�a members. We caould like to get this problem settled before the year
is out. Anyone in the contmunity can ask f.or a rezoning. I hope you ��rill be
patient �aith us as we have complete opposing views concerning the rezoning.
There will be a Parks and �;ecreation Cossnission meeting on July 24, 1967
and this item will be turned over to them to consider purci�asing the property.
2. PUB?.IC HEAP.I�:G: PF.OPOSED PF.F:'LI:�Zi;A.kY PT �T, P.S, ��67-O�E, BATTERSON ADDITTO=�,
DOtiALD EATTERS0;1: All that part o£ Lot 25, �uditor's Subdivision ;;23 Rcvised
that Iies tdest of the �aesterly rioFit of way line of Rivervie��� Terr.ace.
The preliminary plat was e�acnined and discussed. �ir. Batterson c�rondered
if it would be possible to leave the blacictop on tt�e cul de sac whicii c�Tas
vacated and lay dirt over the top. :Icmber Jensen thouolit it �•;oul� be to the
o�•mer`s advantaoe to break up the mat before putting fill on it.
Mr. Seoner, khose prop�rty is to"the soutFi of the proposed p1at, loolced
at the map just as a matter of infonnation.
MOTIO\ 'oy Jensen, seconded by Ylinen, that the Plannino Conu�ission
recommend t� Council the approval of tFie Preiiminary Plat, P.S. ,�67-0!�,
Batterson Addition, DJIIIICI La�terson, beir.o all that part of Lot 25, Auditor's
Subdivision �23 F.evised that lies t•:est of the *.�esterly rioht of caay line �f
Rivervie�•� Ter-race. 'Jpon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the ri�tion carried
unanimously.
3. COi:TIi�;UL•;D FT'1.0:iI:;C� I:F.!?L�rST: ZO_1 'v-67-0-'F, S �: S Ii�;�li;S'1i•�i:c;i C0. P,F.Pt.CS3;:�1'EI) �Y
WILLIA,`�i S�[�1t�?: Lots 1-6, Carlson's S�u;,��it- :iwncr �lnne:: 2nd Addition to bc
rezoncd frora P.-1. to P.-3A.
Planning Commission Meeting - July 13, 1967 Pa4� 5
� Acting Chairman Erickson asked for the rep�rt request at the last meet-
ing regarding the home owners and residents on Third Street.
Engineering Assistant Clark explained the information sheet showir_g the
owners, legal description of their property and date purchased, the vacant
land and apartment buildings. The first change of zoning in that area was
Ordinance No. 98 published on July 10, 1958 fr�m C-1S to R-2, and Ordinance
No. 231 published April 4, 19G3 rezoning from R-2 to R-1. Mr. Charles Root
explained that the examiner of titles of Anoka designated the people who
were to be served notice of registration and the three gentlemen present,
Lyndale Builders who sold to Clemron, Inc. were the only ones who received
notices.
Mr. Chester Brozak, 5110 3rd Street N.E.: Opposed the rezoning as he
built his home here because he expected the neighborhood to remain residential.
The petitioners were asked exactly what they were planning to build.
As far as the number of buildings, they did not know until they went through
the Building Standards-Design Control Subcommittee, but it probably would be
a 22 story building, total 24 units.
Mr. Root said the remaining lots across the street would remain residen-
tial,
Mr. Brozak said he did not believe people will buy homes for residential
^ across from apartment buildings.
MOTION by Ylinen, to close the public hearing, ZOA ��67-04, S& S Invest-
ment Co., represented by William Shaw of Lots l-6, Carlson's Summit Manor
Annex 2nd Addition to be rezoned from R-1 to R-3A. The motion was out of
order inasmuch as the hearing was closed at the Planning Commission meeting
o€ June 8, 1967.
Acting Chairman commented that the property on the Easr side of Third
Street between 49th Avenue and 53rd Avenue is all multiple zoning. It seems
rather sensible to continue it and finish up multiple. I understand the
problem of the people living across the street. The structure need not be
unattractive and the Building Standards-Design Control Coz�nittee will have
to approve it.
Member Jensen said he concurred with Acting Chairman Erickson's opinions.
MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Ylinen, that the Planning Commission recom-
mend approval of the rezoning request, ZOA ��67-04, S& S Investment Company
represented by William Shaw of Lots 1 thru 6, Carlson's Su�nit Manor Annex
2nd Addition to be rezoned from R-1 to R-3A to the Council for the reason
that a more or less continuous strip of multiple dwellings presently a�uts
University Avenue in this area from 53rd. Avenue to 49th Avenue and that
reasonable and proper access to a major thoroughfare is available and that
the character of the neighborhood is suitable for multiple dwellings. Secondea
� by Ylinen. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Member Ylinen concurred with the above remarks. I did not make the
motion because of the t�ao homes on 4th and Sth lots, and finally we should
Planning Commission rieeting - July 13, 1967 Page 6
realize �ahatever control we do have and.see that the structure is suitably
faced, adequate parlcing and other special.requirements.
^ Acting Chairman Erickson told the audience this will come up to the -
.Council on Monday, July 17th. The Council will make the final decision.
All the Planning Commission can do is to recommend.
4. VACATION REQUEST: SAV ��67-03, ROBERT MINDER: Vacation of Charles Street
between Anna Street and Mississippi River.
Mr. Minder was present and an informal discussion took place. The prob-
lem of access to Chase Island was discussed. It would be necessary to get
parking lot area from the School. It was suggested a re.port in writing
regarding access from the Engineering Department concerning road access to
.. the Island and an agreement �aith them for parking to be requested.
The Vacation Request (SAV ��67-03) was continued until July 27, 1967
and the Parks and Recreation Commission should be contacted to give their
opinion by July 27th. The Planning Cornmission suggested advertising.
5. DISCUSSION OF ZONING FOR VETERINARIAN CLINIC:
� .
Dr. Leonard Fogelson caas present to inquire the status of the zor_ing
for veterinian clinic. �
^ The Engineering Assistant reported that he talked with the City Attorney
who said he could draft an ordinance so that it could be discussed and have
� it up for your approval probably at the August meeting and then go to Councii
in September. `
�
Dr. Fogelson said they plan to start building, if the zoning can be
resolved, in September. In the spring they will be ready to open their clinic.
This item will come up again at the August 10, I967 meeting.
RECEIVE MINUTES OF BOARD OF APPEALS: JULY 5, 1967
MOTION by Ylinen, seconded by Jensen, that the Planning Commission
receive the minutes of the Board of Ap�eals meeting of Ju1y 5, 1967. Upon.
a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT :
MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Ylinen, that the Planning Commission
meeting of July 13, 1967 adjourn at 9:30 P.M. Upon a voice vote, all vcting
aye, the motion carried. ,
Respectfully submitted,
,
;� � � �r .�; � �:�.�..�,
Hazel 0'Brian
Recording Secretary
�
�
BUILDING STANDARDS - DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOI�^.MITTEE MEETING MINUTES -
JULY 11, ].967.
The Meeting was ca].led to order by Chairmui� Erickson at 7:12 P.M.
ROLL CALL•
MEMBERS PRE SENT :
MEMBERS ABSENT :
OTHERS PRESENT:
Erickson, Biermann,
Hauge, Dittes
Building Inspector
Tonco
Belisle
1. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR A MOVING PERbiIT TO TdOVE A HOUSE
ONTO LOT 1, BLOCK 1, FROSDS ADDITION (401 IRONTON STREET NORTHEAST).
RF3QUEST BY 2�'IR. & MRS. GEORGE FROID, 445 IRONTON STREET NORTHEAST.
(CONTINUED FROM MEETING OF JUNE 6, 196?):
Ntr. & Mrs. Froid were not present at the meeting. The Committee
denied the request of the Froids to move a house located at the
Dale Movers to Lot l, Block l, Froids Addition, same being 401
Ironton Street Northeast due to structural defects. Motion by
Biermann to deny said request. 5econded by Toncoo Upon a voice
vote, there being no nays, the motion carried,
^ 2. CONSIDERATION OF THE GARAGES RELATIVE TO THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION
OF A 6-DvdELLING APARTMENT BUILDING ON LOTS 3 AND 4o BLOCK 2, HAYES
RIVER LOTS ADDITION (591?-21-31-41-51-61 ANNA STREET NORT.HEAST,
FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA) . REQUEST BY JAI�iES NELSON COMPANY, 7601 V,IAYZATA
BOULEVARD, MTNNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA 55426:
Mr. Nelson or Mr. Minder were not present at the meeting. Mation
by Tonco to approve the request as submitted relative to the garage
construction for the proposed 6-12 Unit apar�ment building on Lots
3 and 4, Block 2, Hayes River Lots Addition contingent u;�on the
variance of the setback reqirement being resolved. Secondad by
Biermann, Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried.
3o CONSIDER.ATION OF CONSTRUCTION OF A 4-PLF.X ON LOTS 2 AND 3, BLOCK 11�
HAMTLTON'S A.DDITION TO N�CHANICSVILLE., (5a80 - 5TH STRE�T NORTI�AST,
FRIDLEY, MIN'1�TESOTA) REQUEST BY MOON CORPO�ATION, 6225 UNIVERSITY
AVENUE NORTHEAST, FRIDI�Y, P�IINI�TESOTA:
Mro Julkowski of Moon Corporation was present. Motion by Bier:nann
to approve the reques� subject to approval of variance of lot area
requirement. 17,00 square feet is requiredo Seconded by Tonco.
Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried.
�
4o REVIEsr� OF CHA.RLES STREET 52-UNIT APARTia�'NT CO.'�'IPLEXo RE4UEST BY
MOON CORPORATION, 6225 UNIVERSIT'Y AVEN�UE NORTHEAST� FRIDL.EY, MINNESO'I' :.
Mro Julkvwski of Moon Corporation was present to discuss this item
with the committee. Motion by T�nco to apprnve subject to appro��al
�
.
n
BUILDING STANDARDS -- DESIGN COIVTROL SUBCO"�IIv1:�T�.'EE MEETING MINUTES -
JULY 1i, 1967 (Continued)
of tl�e City Er.gin�er on the reso�utiorl of street, utility, and
drainaye problems. Seconr3ed by Biermann. Upon a voice vote,
there being no nays, the motion carried.
5. CONSIDERATTON OF CONSTRUCTION OF 1J. - 42 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX
(462 UNITS) C'�? 'I'HE PR�PERTY KNOWN AS AUDITOR°S SUBDIVISION $�78,
NORTH OF THE LYI�'Tt700D P1IANOR NURSTNG HOM� A..ND ACROSS FROih THE
D04^7NING BOX COT�1I�[-zNY AT APPROXIP�ATELY 5800 EI�ST RZVER ROAD.
F.EQIJFST BY PZAURICE FILISTER, 1.312 EAST 21ST STREET, MINNEAPOLIS,
MINNESOTA 55404-
Mr. Filister, c�wner, and Mr, Coopermana Architect, were presen.t.
After discussion on traffic control on the service road, incinerator
alternatives and choice of two types of units, motion by Bierrnann
to approve preliminary plans provided:
1. A plot p].an be submitted and approved defining dimensional
setbacks, dri��eways, parking spaces, proposed l.andscaping,
drainage contours,
•
s.
2. Provide adequate setbacks of buildings and parking lot on
ser�rice road paralle].ing East River Road to allaw construction
of possible future garages.
3.
4.
Plans to be moda.fied relative to storage and laundry space
requirements as outlined in City Cnde, Section 49.082.
Salconies shown on pre].i.mi.nary plans optiondZ unless required
as secondary exits for fire purposeso
Seconded by Tonco. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the
motion carried.
6. CONSIDERATION OF ALTER.ATIONS A.ND ADDITIONS FOR THE SERVICE STATION
AT 6301 T.H. #65 NORTHEAST, FRIDLEX._ M.�NNESOTA. (I.�OT 9 FND PART OF
LOT 10, BLOCI: l, MOO� LAKS HIGHLANDS 3RD ADDITION. REQUEST BY
RICEiARD W. STEINER, 1589 ROSELAWNs ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA:
Mr. Steiner and his archi�ect were present. This proposed improvemen�
is similar to the improvements to the Texaco station on University
Avenue in Fridley and would not in th �s committee's opinion involve
,
^ any cnanges in tra�fzc patLerns in the area of this station. Niotion
by Biermann to approve the request provided the mercury vapor light
in the rear �ard be relocated to avoid any �enetration of light rays
into adjoining residential propertyp No fence or hedge was proposed
�
�
^
�
BUILDING STANDAPDS - L�ESIGN CONTROL SUBCONir11ITTEE MEETING MINLTTES -
JULY 11, 1967 (Continued}
as buffer betw��n rear line oi station property and residential
propert�. Seconded by Tonco. Upon a voice vote, there being
no nays, the motion carried.
ADJOURNMEN�.r '
The meeting was adjourned at 10:45 P.M. by Chairman Erickson.
Respectfully submitted:
( � , �--- -�_-�---t _ %` - / �J
Clarence Belisle, Biiildi.n Ins ector`��'�� ��'`��� ?" �/�/
g P
Ear]. Bierma.nn, Member of the Subcommittee
�
� .
PLATS & SUBDIVISIONS AND
STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING - NLY 20, 1967 PAGE 1
ROLL CALL•
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Jensen at 7:35 P.M.
Members present: Myhra, Nagel, Jensen, Schmedeke, Albrecht.
Members absent: N�ne
Others present: Engineering Assistant Clark
ORDER OF AGENDA:
The order of agenda was to be followed as written.
1. DISCUSSION OF SE4 OF SECTION 13: Meeting with Cochran, Chies, Garlson
and 0'Bannon, the four major property owners.
The property owners present were 0'Bannon, Carlson and Don Chies.
Chairman Jensen commented that the new plan called "Suggested Plat
for Rice Creek Road/Central Avenue Area" to be reviewed this evening
� prepared by Kermit Crouch, in general, looks pretty practical. They
have dealt fairly with the small property owners and being a relatively
fluid plan, no pressure would have to be put on any small individual
property owner. Mr. 0'Bannon discussed his road problem, and it was
decided to discuss this at the August 3rd meeting.
The problem of placing houses on cul de sacs in relation to the
rest of the street was gone over.
The three property owners were asked individually their opinion
of the latest and final plan and they all agreed this was a fine job,
the best one yet.
It was felt the gxades should be left up to each property owners.
Mr. 0'Bannon said he would like to meet with Mr. Scherer and Mr.
Morey in the engineering office before the August 3rd meeting.
No action.
2. REZONING REQUEST, ZOA �P63-02, MRS. FLORENCE SWANSON & BERNARD JULKOWSKI:
The easterly end of Ironton and adjacent to Ashton Avenue, Auditor's
, Subdivision ��103 and Ironton Industrial Park. Street pattern.
Chairnian Jensen explained that the rezoning request of Mrs. Swanson
^ was tied to the street pattern and that was wh�r the Subco�nittee was
� getting it now.
�
�
Plats & Subs. &
Str. & Util. Subcommittee meetin� - July 20, 1967 Page 2
�
This petition for'the rezoning request was denied once last year,
and it seems an opinion was never expressed of the Hodne plan. The City
Engineer asked Mrs. Swanson to present her rezoning request again so
that there might be a way to solve Mrs. Swanson's problem of selling her
land and the street problem in that area. A public hearing was held at
the last Planning Commission at which time there were a large number of
the neighboring residents in objecting to multiple dwellings on this
tract. I believe the Planning Conanission felt reluctant to approve and
decided there should be further study. Mrs. Swanson said she had
offered to sell the property to the City far park. There seems to be
lack of real organization in this request. It was sent back to this
subcommittee and to the Parks and Recxeation Commission.
� Looking at Hodne's plan dated March 24, 1966 (Commission No. 6553),
Chairman Jensen continued, you wi11 n�te the key to his plan is a connec-
tion between Hugo and Ironton which does not exist at this time. The
continuation of Ashton Avenue from Ely north to the future MSA street that
connects East River Road and University, could actually eliminate the
Ironton Street connection with Ashton. Industrial traffic is already
being generated in M-1 and is more or less filtered out through Ironton.
By eliminating connection with Ironton and pushing up to MSA, this
objectionable industrial traffic will be kept out of the residential
neighborhood and the need.for the proper landscaping barrier, which is
shown in some detail in the Hodne sketch, shows how hedges and trees
^ would provide screening to the residential area on the west.
Member Harold Albrecht entered.
It was noted that there is now a petition to improve Hugo Street.
This is a long street that goes nowhere, but ends in someone's yard.
This was the reason Mrs. Swanson was asked to come in.
According to Hodne's plan, Ironton Street would be closed so that
it would not become a cross street between Ashton and East River Road,
then Ashton becomes a north-south thoroughfare from 79th to 83rd Avenues.
Ironton Avenue traffic will then be forced to go out on East River Road.
MOTION by Nagel, seconded by Myhra, that the Plats & Subdivisions -
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee recoimnend adoption of Hodne's Plan, as
far as the street pattern is concerned, dated March 24, 1966, with the
e�cception that the right of way connecting Hugo Street.and Ironton be
forty feet rather than sixty feet. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
the motion carried unanimously.
3. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. ��67-03, EMMY H. RIEDEL ESTATE BY DONALD LAMM,
ATTY.: Parcel 4850 sold to Dr. Trezona to be split off for special
assessment.
The real estate portion of Riedel Estate to be taken care of by
� Paul A. Skjervold.
�
Plats & Subs. &
Str. & Util Subcommittee meeting - July 20, 1967 Page 3
� It was again no�ed that the logical time and place for this type of
lot split, which has not gone through the regular City channels at the
ti.me of purchase, should be in the Registrar of Deeds office. The
Engineering Assistant said that one time there was a sign in the court
house warning the person filing the deed about the City Ordinance.
MOTION by Myhra, seconded by Schmedeke, that the Planning Commission
, request Darrel Clark, Engineering Assistent, to see if a sign exists that
informs the lot owner to follow the course of action prescribed by his
city government before filing a lot split. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Item 3 was to be continued until Mr. Skjervold has returned to the
.. C ity .
/'\
�
�
4. ROAD STUDY: 69th Avenue to 73rd Avenue, Central Avenue to Highway ��65.
It was reported by the Engineering Assistant that there has been
some action by Council that would eliminate the need for us to act. It
now appears that there is no need for the subcommittee to take action
until something else develops.
No action.
ADJOURNMENT •
MOTION by Nagel to adjourn the Plats:.& Subdivisions and Streets &
Utilities Subcommittee meeting of July 20, 1967 at 9:30 P.M. Upon a
voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
�-��c_ ._i !%�°;���t-�-�
Hazel �0' Brian
Recording Secretary
w�
, ,. ..: � ; ',-I ;.J !! .�
_;,�,. a 1� � � � �,. �.��'� ,�.� �'jL
/" � V
� ' �`'� : + '' •,; i �r:21?�� �:✓:r 6�.`�%i
�"_• ,• ,.�, _,,,,,r
MINDER , ROBERT P . ;. ` _�--.�-===� ' _�
� � � - c
sav #b7-o3 � � � � � ` ��-•, `� ;
_ � �-. .� ��� .
Vac . Charles St . bet . . . � • ' ,� ' ' �
. `... Y.� � ,�• , �-
Anr�a & Miss. River ' • : , - � `� • _;-
�', " �;,,,�� o :
(�� 3, Bl. 2, Ha.yes .,' -. '� ;^. ;
--, �.
River Lots� . . - � ` � • ' �^'� �
�
0
�
,.,, .. ti �, r . . � _ ;
' � — "�� -� ' : , ` �`- � �:4 C�
_' �_ . 's � , ��� 1t ; � � : ;�_�O
� J _,, � 3 a, , FlJF, y1 ;, J
� 1.f'i 'V.m,n�
� . . ` _ � '^uC�A' ��-��
�- C �„ ����.t,' ,� ^ ` �'.
r; ;,�i,vr ,.
_� �4; j a
—, i ; ;
,
-.c� r i;.
�iIMI ; � K�4T-A�� i
�-- �. ,--- - -
� ` �
!7--
� � ! /,
� � �
,_ � � ,/� �
:l,;t''•��:� � �" .�' � f
��� � , j:��. O �%
��•� � � � F
� T ��
.� . . � i �> r . ,r,a T. � <�_. " " .., . . J:� . �/ •l=� �.•$.• ' � 'k ; I e
f � `'� __' p%�V:�Y`FTJ7 ,, �. w'{ �: '�' yj.j t� � / � ,� ��f�" i
`� il�,��� ,C,} ,._JYIYt=-/� .%.�^J r � !r � S ( ,. .� /��..(z/1<� �' �� -
.,s .: :.1 .`�:.tiL.L.Y!�`� J�,,i�j ' ''` .e �.�l . ��c��. " ` ' j�- � �
kI' � ~W �"r;:; �Y�Jr�: � �' �':��� �`��i � �l' (' �1�'� i---• i�.-._ _.
. � , ,�. ,,,,,;��� { .;.i� � �,,. ..r.:j.j �� � �t , �� �
r _...G...� ���L ,�.,�.,�' /. r. ;1 �J•f• -� � �9 Tr'
� �: �`� � �-� ;;;;;;,;;,;;;;;;;;;;� .���� ^f;�r�; 7 �r . t` � �!�`�t`�`�� `�
�r° ,h ✓.'/:. f i.._
1 ` �' ��� �,,.,, „'/,;,,ii,; �� ��.'' '.:e � �: -f .:�'� "� '.y.,r'','J`.;,r�;- .
�. � >�•rJ / i//i/ii/ / -/i % . Y. .
I : _r� //./.'.�."�/..i� Q"�r�/�y� 1'�'�'�f,' i �j'��� O �''�i.�� � ��� -� �
v.� , ��������,-�/,� � �, .�����'•�°•���° ' �.��� _ .I. y Y��•j �' �- "';�
�� r. .�.;�; ' > � 4J� a!_ c :.t �ps,,'.' � L� y�;p ,�'�-, � � .
�� _ d'�!� ��„ �;;;;,�','� �.�f` . �j'� c� �`�� �` , :;`'�, �•�,���� � �� -
" ~�,� ° '� ' ; , , � . ,�. %r f; �r_ r - �� '
�' ,�
� ��, � ;;:;,�� y f. %�I � i f �� � r �
s-� �i -� � " � . . � . � ; . „ }" I'�) 3'� /.� �x , 1 � � �=t'� � �� y�;�s � . _ _�� -
l-- "��� �.. ..;.i,. •;�•'i. .i• _ •�s.�' Icti�• �-i- ._�� �._-_
' . � i . l S � y� ..t . 'Y i�' !}:l'� .,: „ 't ' y`^" ---
�����/������ ✓, i _ y ,j �._._Jt.r..�
�'• . i i . . . � . . . . i . . , ;,l.'�, ,� S .1` � r ,/ ..,-c » Y' �I 'j'st � !.'� • �: �� � �•3 T N
� . i i .. . .. . . . . .: : � i � ��� � �t .'��-• f y f��!'/ ,�,a � ['j1 . ,n ;� f,. �
E.�=� . iiii.. i '' y `J j ���
�i d' iiiiiri .iiiiiii :�1 �T /•�� .� �s.e(,� .r: d'� ��� - _
., ,." ' ..�.. .����j tY ���,�' `',�j°�" •� � � !. �� ��-
, , ,.;:;...� .. ; I � y� .; �
.�` , , , , ; , , ,�, , , i , , , �;i. lY ;��f�` � r,�'�ix" � r ^�'•� "�.f , (�' �l • . �� .,t .- . - # _
, , , ; , % y' � €--�-
..i.ii ii � / ;.i, f� �� !�i,�..�`.. � � �.� k.?C �1•s c _ .�
;.i� �. i �. -
.,�..� ���. .��� .�J' 1 y .',p�•�• T �F•����i �.: ��' ,�'�. �€ ^ ;',
.i.i,.�.. i,%,i.i�iV��l. r ��'.e.� �� '��� v
i.i� �..����. rf�/ a+ ~ �J L. ..
��/��/� �.ii �.ii�/ �. `r'���`�'' i =_/�f,.��� ��. ��p� � �l�'.f e� �
r::;.��.,:�::;.; ' :IY .''r 3 :'�i` "� r f�f "...�'� �, �'`�� �f,�/.'�e"�i!` - ��
�.�.� ... '::.�,�/ �� �y � ,,,�!� j� �
� � . i . . i � : : i i i . � � L�/ yf ,.�• �� �' ,.� • Z i• •�f f � ��ft' ' �.�,,,./,�/ !� t --.�.._Cr--
"Yr7; iiiiiii. ii-i� } . � �/' {. � _ .
' , � � , ; � � � , . � , . � � `�' �' �'`!/ ;� y �„j�'�` Y r ji. � �, %�,.� �'���/,-�. �
� .... � � . � ... . .�' ,,��' +`r•„�1 ,,,% 1 l �. � .j �ri �'j"
�:i.i:,:i i. �" t ��, ,f' � :z •y1 �/ /�'°.�j�f •� �'� " t J
i i i i �,� � ..^._ `��.� " ��� ;� i
;;, ��� �r',� x� � .{� �,�.�:�.: c ,.�.�:� ,; �= , f,: ;:�
� �
0
�• �:1�,,, . ,_ .,r�',� � ;�,�. 3 �! � �. �.:� ( ; ���� �':
�,r� `��'' .� `� , -, ,
,- � W �j�' �' �'•" x� � �,�,�yY',i' ' '� ,' ,.
r � �, ��, � � ,�, ��'�;�� j"-f_.
�.• •,r .�'' (.%• � � �� ! .,�� ,,�' �� �=j• �. �.,r
� �,. _ - . ,:� 1.�.:�� '� � ;j� � x'.y
�.� �`-� �,,�; - :� �f-� � ���� � �� �.�- -
��!���"j` .�.r:� ;��� .�..,�;�`�.�-.
�..�' � ��' .r ,�� �'��'� J- --:
.I ` j"� � J ,r ,/� !���� 4 � �,! '
� � ;��: � ��.
_ . .��>.� ��� ► � .�_
_ �.t�
�- STAT'Ei ; RU;�;�.. _ HIGHW'aY NO.tO�__.
��7T� r=�-z-._...._-- -.
��..�`�� % �,.r°�� ✓..r`� �
`2 f
��. �;f��'��� � � -� �
.� �,�y` ` 1. .;1,� r
;��� . 1�,�''.< , 1': >'•'',..�1'� y
�-
�
�--
���
�_
•fT:f-. .' .'/. f�:J •r.•�.'f'� .�� ' :�% .
i .�;f. , f' �.�r'� � �� ;'�'` `
%�I �
' ;l' '.�^ '!. . I ' �,�
�'� ' .rr� •' . �����.f ' /, : ,-;- � •_.-
� .�„ ..�r,� r---.-�-- -
�,�`. �",� ► � . � ���
./,��, �� ,��,r" .� � ��'
� .� �? ;! . . � .� �. . � _
. I = �. ' �.t�
D�v��v� -.. PoRr�.oN _.o�-_�' .�s�c. ___�_..�_�
-. � ,
�, - . � � �
. -- �
� , Rezoning - ZOA �63-02
� Mre. Florence Swanaon
� � � Bernard Julkowski
I ,,. � � . . . _
! ; ; R ` � f �. , _
� , � ; � _ �
.� ? D3 �f� 3 2 i6 � �D M - ! '� � � � . .
� �
. I!-?ONTOIU ; � S7R�E7: '-
.r,
J �� !� � � �. _.
G � -.�
� }Y � ; ' . � -
.. _ .�. __- {� - _ �
. �, ` 2
� � � �b ., �� .:. M . . `
_ _ ________ �
_.._ _
i✓(�G o .___ € Ts ... . , .: `� (� ; .
O � � ' ,
� � . Q � ----- --- Z 1 , � . SGALE /'� Z,00�
R-1 - � �
____, _.- -, . -
: Note: Water and Sewer is
� - - -�: avdilable in all City
+ etreeCs. _ :
• __ _ _ z ' �
z' , ,�J�' ` -
/ "/
� - --- 3
� R�� R-� _ � .
{ . 3 �L-, ,
� . _ �;• 4 �' � . •
� , _ � - ,. . . - --..
_ �` . - Q. �. �
,. �
. � .
C�, �_ b
_ , - - - - - --�--
� _ ; .
� � � �'�� d � � �
�Q . (� p. . . ! .
� _. ,
� E L Y - S T R E T _.__. .__ -
/� - .
; d � . � � � � . d Ai��
� . . �6�-�
; .
, / . .. , ARA -�
�nl�/ ,� Y C, �;
, / �
t ,.. . . R"� ., -, � R_� �� ; .TAni 4; �9�6
j. _ : , �.. . � ;.
. �-- � (— — � � � � � - =- �-- -' _�-'��..,.� � �- ; _ r ;� .
�
�
r
THE MINUTES OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COD�IISSION MEETING, JULY 24, 1967
� The meeting was called to order by,Chairman Hughes at 8:05 P.M.
ROLL CALL
MEMBERS PRESENT:
MEMBERS ABSENT:
OTHERS PRESENT:
�� f �. ,. ,_
Hughes, Dunphy, Cochran, Spence, Fitzpatrick '�
None
Paul Brown, Director of Parks and Recreation
Mr. and P4rs. Robert Venne, 200 Hugo Street N.E.
Mr. and Mrs. Ralph Officer, 315 Hugo Street N.E.
Mr. and Mrs. Richard Erickson, 341 Hugo Street N.E.
Mr. and Mrs. Charles Seeger, 324 Ironton Street N.E.
Mr. and Mrs. Randy Lobash, 314 Iror�ton Street N.E.
Mr. and Mrs. Norm Tuomie, 304 �ronton Street N.E.
Mr. and Mrs. Kenneth Sporre, 301 Ironton Street N.E.
(Spokesmen for "Spring Brook Park Development Committee")
MINUTES, MAY 29, 1967
MOTION by Cochran, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the blay 29, 1967 Minutes be
accepted as mailed. The Motion Carried.
MEETING, JUNE 26, 1967, WITH CITY COUNCIL
The meeting was discussed although no formal minutes were recorded.
�"` PLANPdING CONII�IISSION MINUTES, JULY 13, 1967
�1
MOTION by Spence, seconded by Cochran, that the minutes of the Planning Commis-
sion Meeting of July 13, 1967, be received. The Motion Carried.
LETTERS
Letter from Commission to City Council - Subject: Summit Square Park
MOTION by Spence, seconded by Cochran, that the Commission is not in a�ree-
ment with the action taken by the Council at their July 5th meetinQ in terms
that it was contrary to the Commission's recommendation concerning the base �
ball playin� on the south �arcel of. the park. � '
During�discussion of the motion, the reasons given as to why this area is
inadequate for baseball playing were there are streets on both the east and
north side of this parcel and with the lengths of 180 feet and 140 feet, this
would cause some extremely hazardous situations and with the close situation
of houses on the west and south sides, foul balls falling into the yards
would cause problems. The Commission recognizes the intense public interest
in the completion of this park and the objection is not intended to stop or
slow the progress of this park. The Commission still plans to recommend the
installation of drain tiles in this parcel to discourage baseball playing.
Upon a voice vote, the Motion Carried.
�
Memo to City Manager - Subject: Melody Manor Property
The Commission feels that as long as the Melody Manor Property is already
approved, the federal aid allotment should continue to be used here.
�
� PARKS AN� RECREATION C��MIISSION MINUTES, JULY 24, 1967 Page 2
DIRECTOR'•S REPORT
� Parks and Recreation Memorandum and Work Pro�ress Report
Miami Congress
The Commission agrees that it is important that the Director attend the
Congress for Recreation and Parks benefiting both the Commission and the
City.
MOTION by Cochran, seconded by Dunphy, that the Commission authorize the
Director to attend the Congress for Recreation and Parks being held this
year in Miami, Florida, December 3 through 7. The Motion Carried.
The question of whether or not a member of the Commission will also attend
• this Congress will be decided at a later date.
Swimming Attendance
The question of whether the swimming program attendance has suffered be-
cause of the school program was brought up. The Director informed the
Commission that it has not; the attendance is running about 100 children
more than last year.
Beach Allotment
The City does not receive the $1,500.00 beach allotment from Anoka County
/�' because beach permits are sold. However, since these permits are a restrict-
ion on the parking facilities and are not a participant restriction, Chair-
� man Hughes will write the county commissioner, Harvey Peterson, and ask that
eonsideration be given the �ity of Fridley in this matter.
Draft Agreement with Consultant
MOTION by Dunphy, seconded by Spence, that the Commission recommends that
the City of Fridley enter into this agreement as written which we have be-
fore us tonight, with Mr. Braddock provided he is Iike-minded. The Motion
Carried.
OLD BUSINESS
Land Acquisition
1'he degree of urgency in acquiring and developing specific parcels of land was
discussed by the Commission. A special meeting was scheduled at which time this
subject will"be the main item.
NEW BUSINESS
Flanery Park
A request was received from b1r. Fowler that the backstop be moved in Flanery Park
/1 from t�ie northeast corner to the north�aest corner due to balls landing in his
property. �
MOTION by Dunphy, seconded by Spence, that this item be tabled until the next
regular meeting. The Motion Carried.
, PARKS AND RECREATION CO�IlNISSION MINUTES, JULY 24, 1967 Page 3
Park Maintenance Magazine
/� The members of the Commission expressed their wishes not to receive this maga-
zine at their homes, but that a copy be kept in the Director's office for future
reference.
� Rezoning Request - Delegation of Citizens Requesting Park
A delegation of citizens from the Ironton and Hugo area west of the railroad
tracks was present at the meeting; their interest being the rezoning request
from Mrs. Florence Swanson and Bernard Julkowski, owners of property at the
easterly end of Ironton and adjacent to Ashton Street, auditor's Subdivision
#103. The request was that this land be rezoned for multiple dwelling. A
petition for a park in this area was received last year and the citizens feel
this property could be purchased by the city for park land. Norman Tuomie, 304
Ironton Street N.E., stated that tentative rezoning has been for some time
and he would like some conclusive thoughts on this matter. He has met with the
Planning Commission last year and this year and the issue is still in the air.
Mrs. Swanson, owner of the property, said that a previous rezoning request had
been turned down. Ralph Officer, 315 Hugo Street N.E., explained a multi-color-
ed map showing the property in question and which also showed that most of the
area is zoned for light industrial. If one area is rezoned for multiple dwell-
ing, other areas will request to rezone as such, Charles Seeger, 324 Ironton
Street N.E., asked if this area.would be large enough for a neighborhood park.
Randy Lobash, 314 Riton, referred to a park between t;1e Mississippi River and
East River Road on Hugo where there •is no apparatus anu only a skating rink in
the winter. If the city buys this land for park land, what would become of it.
�• Chairman Hughes stated that most agree that there is not enough park land for
a city of 27,000. This area is not large enough for even these two streets.
He feels that the Planning Commission should plan the whole area first. Member
Dunphy voiced his appreciation t0 the citizens for coming to the meeting tonight.
People should organize to work toward the betterment of their specific area. Mr.
Seeger inquired as to whether it was more popular to set up a series of small
parks rather than one large park. Chairman Hughes feels that parks are too
small for the activities that children want to engage in such as baseball and
softball. Mr. Tuomie thought that this property could be used as a springboard
and possibly in the future land to the north could be purchased. Mrs. Kenneth
Sporre, 301 Ironton, asked if there was another piece of land that would be
better suited. Chairman Hughes stated no, although the Commission has looked at
much land from Spring Brook to 79th. Member Dunphy said that the Commission ia
conscious of the problem and hopes that they can get land in the future. No park
can be developed from setting aside a little tax money each year from a specific
area". This property is now zoned for single dwelling and the people in the area
are against multiple dwelling. If Ashton Avenue is to go through, the owner of
the property must request it.
MOTION by Dunphy, seconded by Cochran, to recoemmend that the Planning Commission
not further increase density of population by changing zoning to R-3A. There is
no publicly owned park land in this area. The park problem is being studied at
present time with high priority with the Parks and Recreation Commission. There
is a possibility that the Commission would be interested in acquiring this area
for park land. The Motion Carried.
/'1
� Vacating of Charles Street
MOTION_by Dunphy, seconded by Spence,. that the Parks and Recreation Commission
go on record as opposing the vacating of Charles Street as is will eliminate the
only access to park land. The Motion Carried.
6
, PARKS AND RECREATION CO;�IMISSION MINUTES, JULY 24, 1967 Page 4
ADJOURNb1ENT
^ A Special Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting will be held on Monday,
July 31, 1967, at 7:00 P.M, at the Fridley City Hall.
r
�
The next regular meeting will be held on Monday, August 28, 1967, at 8:00
P.M. at the Fridley City Hall.
Respectfully submitted,
. �-�. /f,G��'
G���•
Mary Lou Erickson, Secretary, Parks and Recreation Commission
�