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APPROVE MINUTES OF PLANNIN_G_ COMbffSSION MEETING: DECII�ER 14, 1967 1—�.
RECETVE MCNUTES OF PARKS & RECREATION COMbffSSION MEETING: DECEMBER
18, 1967: 5-7
RECEIVE MINUTES OF BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING: DEC�iBER 20. 1967: 8-9
1. DISCUSSION OF AREA BET[dEEN 57TH AVENUE AND 61ST AVENUE: M.AIN
STREET TO UNIVERSITY AVENUE: DISCUSSION WITH PLANNER
2. PROPOSED ZONING CODE:
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING DECIIKBER 14, 1967
The meeting was called to order by Vice Chairman Erickson.
ROLL CALL•
Members Present: Myhra, Erickson, Jensen
Members Absent•: Ylinen, Hughes
Others Present: Engineering Assistant Clark
A.T,��ROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 30, 1967:
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MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Myhra, that the Planning Commission minutes
of November 30, 1967 be approved. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously.
RECEIVE PLATS & SUBDIVISIONS-STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: DECEMBER
7, 1967: �
MOTION by Myhra, seconded by Jensen, that the Planning Commission receive
the minutes of the Plats & Subdivisions-Streets & Utilities Subcommittee for
December 7, 1967. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL MINUTES: NOV�ER 28 1967:
MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Myhra, that the Planning Commission receive
the minutes of the Building Standards-Design Control for November 28, 1967. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES: NOVEMBER 29 1967:
MOTION by Myhra, seconded by Jensen, that the Planning Commission receive
the minutes of the Board of Appeals for November 29, 1967. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
ORDER OF AGENDA•
The Vice Chairman stated the Commission would proceed as the items are
listed,
1. PUBLIC MEETING: RESI'�ENTS ON JOHNSON'S RIVER LANE:
INTERSECTION PATTERi�:' MISSISSIPPI STREET & EAST RTVER ROAA, BOB'S PRODUCE
R,ANCH :
Present to discuss this item were Elmer Johnson, Don Batterson and Benson
Investment Company represented by D. C< Chandler and J. R. Levine.
Member Jensen said he would like to talk in general about the history of
the present plan. Sometime ago, something like 6 or 8 months ago, a plan was
generated by the Streets & Utilities-Plats & Subdivisions Subcommittee which
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differed to some extent from the plan we are looking at tonight. That plan
was similar in that the intersection of Mississippi Street and East River
road was to be a full four way intersection. The differences essentially
were that Mississippi Street was connected with Mississipp,i Place and a
service road was provided North along the 47est side of East River Road. The
plan was recommended for adoption to the City Council and it was his under-
standing that they received the plan but did not take a specific action
relative to it. Instead they passed it on to the County Engineer for review
at that level. At that point there was no activity on the proposal. In the
meantime, Mr. Schroer changed his basic plan for the proposed building and
display area with the result that t}iere was no more need for a service drive.
This alternate plan was drawn, went to Council, back to the Subcommittee and
it took action r�commending approval with a few features which we wished to
have incorporated in the plan. This will be found in the Subeommittee minutes
on page 15 in tonight's Agenda,
Mr. D. C. Chandler said they were surprised that the Planning Commission
would even consider taking access frontage away from a commercialized lot.
Who do you expect to pay for this? We have been paying on this street now for
seven years. We are not about to stand still for this. The plan we saw a year
ago had Mississippi Way connected to Mississippi Street through the Mobil
Station. This plan tonight is a custom plan for Bob's Produce. We are com-
pletely opposed to this set up. Why was the other plan dropped?
Jensen stated that all he meant to indicate by his comments was that the
plan presented this evening was an alternate plan.
Mr. R. J. Levine said the statement was the fact that Bob came up with an
alternate plan whereby he did not need a service road and his only question is
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Jensen explained that the only consideration in the Subcommittee meeting
relative to the benefits of this plan over the previously adopted or accepted
plan, was that Mississippi Place essentially residential, was going to serve
a very high commercial type of traffic, and this is not good planning. The
other plan arranged for the commercial traffic to filter back out onto Missis-
sippi Place in order to make many of the exits that would be required.
Mr. Chandler said that should this plan go into effect, it would mean that
their particular piece of property, instead of being a corner commercial,
would then become a landlocked piece with no exit or entrance. The property
would be devaluated.
Member Jensen said he believed they could get in by way of Mississippi
place and be able to pull out and go South.
Judge Johnson said, now to Bob's Produce Plan, taking off the gas station
and running a street East-West right on Bob's property, would they pay for
-�� the street improvement?
Erickson answered that if the County designated this as a County road, they
would pay for the whole thing.
Judge Johnson then asked "Would those of us who are adjacent have to pay
for another road? We are still paying for Mississippi Place, now have River-
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view Terrace going North-South and paying for that also. I am paying for
Riverview Terrace, Mississippi Place and now we are getting a third raad.
Erickson asked Judge Johnson what he would think if Bob's Produce were to
pay for all of the Mississippi Place and are your objections to the assess-
ments or pattern?
In reply Judge Johnson said the pattern and assessments. When this was
put in and the County Engineer put signal lights there, I had asked him to
have the signals about ten feet further South. Y�ur first responsibility
is to make safe roads. If the signal light would be a little to the South,
widen the driveway of the Mobil Gas Station, widen Mississippi Place, I
believe that would do what you want to do.
Mr. Chandler said the plan was designed specifically for Bob's Produce.
Jensen stated that there was one thing he wanted to make clear and to make
certain. The original plan presented about eight or nine months ago was not
adopted, but progressed through the Planning Commission up to Council. If
you will notice, this plan provides for a service road approximately up to
66th. There are arrows on it. One way traffic to the North beyond that two
way street. Now the thinking that went into this plan was we could not have
two way traffic coming togetk�er. Traffic which wanted to move South on East
River Road and move North could go back to the South or move back through
here down to Riverview Terrace. Essentially, probably 75% of traffic leaving
this commercial development would end up by leaving Mississippi Place behind
your house and on out.
Mr. Levine asked if there was much traffic on Mississippi Street just now.
He was told the traffic is heavy going North-South on East River Road, but
not on Mississippi Place.
Jensen said to Judge Johnson that it is his situation, along with the
apartment houses, that we took into consideration. If we are not serving you
by that consideration, we must be off on the wrong track. I wonder how the
apartment would like looking at the heavy commercial traffic behind the
building but have a very quiet front view.
Mr, Levine said he congratulated the Planning Commission on one thing.
They received better treatment, a lot better treatment, than the last time
they appeared before a Conmiittee. It seemed the protesters were not present
so the hearing was continued.
Judge Johnson repeated that his main objection was the assessments because
this would make a third road they would be paying for.
It seems the problem is how to get the traffic in and out, and Erickson
said that perhaps they should go back to the original plan and modify it.
�\.., MOTION by Myhra, seconded by Jensen, that the Intersection Pattern for
Mississippi Street and East River Road be continued until the next scheduled
meeting of the Planning Commission (December 28, 1967). Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
2. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. ��67-01, NIYLO PARKS, PARCELS 2000, 2010, 2020, AUDITOR'S
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SUBDIVISION ��10 REVISED: Owner Herwal, Inc., George Walquist.
The members reviewed the decision of the Plats & Subdivisions-Streets &
Utilities minutes of December 7, 1967, Planning Conunission and Council's
previous actions.
MOTION by Myhra, seconded by Jensen, that after a reviewal of the proposed
plan for the Northeast corner of Central. Avenue and Mississippi Street by
Herwal, Incorporated, it was moved that the Lot Split ��67-01, of Parcels
2000, 2010 and 2020, Auditor's Subdivision ��10 Revised be granted with the
following changes: (1) The Westerly portion shall be 125 feet abutting on
Mississippi Street, that the Easterly portion be 110 feet on Mississippi
Street. (2) Any structure would be located no nearer than 35 feet from the
present property line on Central Avenue and 35 feet from the present line on
Mississippi Street. That the property owner give to the City of Fridley an
easement over the Southerly six feet of the entire property for right of way
purposes. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
3. DISCUSSION OF AREA BETWEEN 57TH AVENUE AND 61ST AVENUE: UTTIVERSITY AVENUE TO
MAIN STREET: .
The Commission held a general discussion referring to a map prepared by
Vice Chairman Erickson. No�action.
4. PROPOSED ZONING CODE:
The Commission worked on Section 5, R-1 Family Dwelling, beginning with
45.19 Parking to Front Yard Requirements.
MEETING :
It was decided to meet at the regular time on December 28, 1967, and this
was to be a study meeting with planners. Also the Proposed Zoning Study would
be continued at that time.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Myhra, seconded by Jensen, that the Planning Commission adjourn
at 11:20 P,M. Upon a voice vote, all vating aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Hazel 0'Brian
Recording Secretary
� MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PARKS AND RECREATION CODM�IISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 18, 1967 �
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�. Meeting was called to order by Chairman Hughes at 7:45 P.M.
ROLL CALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Hughes, Dunphy, Cochran, Spence
MEMBERS ABSENT: Fitzpatrick
OTHERS PRESENT: Paul Brown, Director - Parks and Recreation Department
MINUTES, NOVEMBER 27, 1967
MOTION by Cochran, seconded by Spence, that the Minutes of November 27, 1967,
be accepted as mailed. The Motion Carried.
LETTERS
MOTION by Cochran, seconded by Spence, to accept letters. The Motion Carried.
Letters from and to Mr. David Robb of the Walker Art Center and Mr. John
Dunphy - Subject: Most park systems are developed to promote "active"
recreation while many members of the commission feel the act of "passive"
recreation should also be encouraged.
Letters from and to Mr. Elpidio Rocha of the Kansas City Institute and
Mr. John Dunphy - Subject: Parks should be developed in such a way to
enhance their natural beauty. In other words, citizens should be able
to just sit within their parks and enjoy them. The Commission agreed
to invite Mr. Rocha to spend a day in late April or early May in Fridley
and challenge him with one of our undeveloped parks and see what new and
different ideas he could come up with.
Letter to The Ford Foundation from Mr. John Dunphy - Subject: Inquiry as
to whether a grant might be available by which our parks could be developed
aesthetically rather than only recreationally.
DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Parks and Recreation Memorandum
Member Eitzpatrick has requested that a light be installed on the pole at Summit
Square. A light would help to prevent vandalism and would also make the park
usable for more hours of the day. The Commission felt that its first responsi-
bility was to the park and that the light could possibly be shielded in such a
way to control the lighting and prevent it from being a bother to neighboring
homes.
Larger 500 gallon mobile gas tanks hat-;: been installed at the warming houses.
Minnegasco will provide complete service to these tanks and the only charge in-
� curred will be the amount of gas used. The problem of running out of gas will
be eliminated.
Hockey registration has grown to 150 boys and more registrants are expected in
1- the future weeks. The Director anticipates four teams entering the broomball
��\ competition. The number of square dancing participants has picked up consider-
ably. The arts and erafts classes has met with much success.
Pete Peterson, instructor for square dancing, has requested that a New Year's
Eve Party be held at the Civic Center. The Commission approved and the Director
will submit the proper application to the City Manager.
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T'he skating rinks will be opened on Wednesday, December 20th. Warming house
attendants have been hired and assigned to each warming house.
Park signs for Madsen Park and Oak Hill Park are being painted at the present
time.
PLANNING CONIlNISSION REPORT - CHAIRMAN HUGHES
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The request that Innsbruck North be rezoned from R-1 to PD has been turned
down by the Planning Commission. The Planning Commission felt that a Planned
Development consisting of multiple dwellings would raise the population of
this area too greatly although they would like to have a Planned Development
consisting of single dwellings in this area.
PLAN FOR 1969
The Commission agreed to eliminate the Fourth of July Festival and offer our
services to the Fridley Festival Committee for races and games at The Commons
Park.
The lack of recreational programs for the teenagers of the City was brought
to the attention of the Commission. The possibility of sending a general
questionaire to these boys and girls consisting of programs such as boys and
girls softball league for the summer months was discussed. In this way their
interests could be polled.
A playground at the North Park School will be added in the 1968 summer program.
It was thought that in 1969, playgrounds should also be added at Madsen Park
and Craig Park.
The Commission felt that in the winter months, when the number of outdoor act-
ivities is low, would be the best time to organize clubs such as camera, out-
door camping, ham radio, stamp, etc. .
OLD BUSINESS
1968 Budget - Revised (See Attachment)
MOTION by Dunphy, seconded by Spence, that'revised budget based on Council
action be submitted to City Council requesting approval of revised figures.
The Motion Carried. ---`
January Tea
Sunday, January 21, 196$, at 3:00 P.M. was the date and time set for the informal
meeting of past commission members. Invitations will be sent.
NEW BUSINESS
_-_ Hockey Association of Fridley - Practice and Game Schedule
MOTION by Cochran, seconded by Dunphy, that schedule be approved with the ex-
ception that in the 3:30 - 6:00 time slot on Sundays, one rink be always avail-
able for free play. The Motion Carried.
• MINUTES OF THE PARK� AND RECREATION COl�II�1ISSI0N MEETING, DECEMBER 18, 1967 PAGE 3 "�
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�, Tree Removal
Mr. Gordon Groenke has requested permission to salvage remaining timber downed
from the storm in Locke Park. There would be no cost to the City. He would
pile the loose brush in an open area where the department could burn it. The
Director will check with the City Attorney on this.
Shade Tree Evaluation
The department has received two Shade Tree Evaluation booklets from the Inter-
national Shade Tree Conference. These booklets will aid the City Forester in
determining the value of shade trees in the City.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 11:45 P.M.
The next regular meeting will be held on Monday, January 22, 1968, at 7:30 P.M.,
at the Fridley Civic Center, Conference Room.
Respectfully submitted,
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Mar Lou Ericks n -
y o, Secretary Parks and Recreation Commission
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' THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING, DECEMBER 20, 1967
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The Meeting was called to order by Acting Chairman Mittelstadt at 7;30 P.M.
ROLL CALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mittelstadt, Ahonen, Minish
MEMBERS ABSENT: Ylinen
ADOPTION OF MINUTES, NOVEMBER 29, 1967•
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MOTION by Minish, seconded by Ahonen, to adopt the Minutes of the meeting subject
to a change in the roll call to include the �bsence of Mr. Minish. Upon a voice
vote, there being no nays, the Chairman declared the motion carried.
1. A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE FROM SECTION 45 282, CITY CODE OF FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA
1963, REVISED DECEMBER 31, 1964, BY WAIVER OF LAND AREA REQUIREMENTS FOR AN
R 3 DISTRICT FROM A REQUIRED 17,000 SQUARE FEET T0 9,948 SQU9RE FEET TO PERMIT
CONSTRUCTION OF FOUR (4) TWO BEDROOM UNITS ON LOT 17, BLOCK 1, MURDIX PARK
ADDITION ANOKA COUNTY MINNESOTA SAME BEING S00 CHERI LANE NORTHEAST FRIDLEY
MINNESOTA (NORTHEAST CORNER OF 7TH STREET AND CHERI LANE NORTHEAST) (REQiJEST
BY JAMES W. LUPIENT 3512 BELDEN DRIVE N.E. MINNEAPOLIS MINNESOTA 55418 ;
Chairman Mittelstadt requested this item be tabled until later in the meeting
because the petitioner was not present.
A member of the audience asked for an explanation of the function of the Board
of Appeals. Chairman Mittelstadt gave a brief explanation.
2. A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT A SERVICE STATION ON R 3 PROPERTY
ON PARCEL ��2550 NORTHEAST CORNER OF OSBORNE ROAD AND UNIVERSITY AVENUE NORTHEAST
AS PER SECTION 45.08 8-d CITY CODE OF FRIDLEY MINNESOTA 1963 REVISED
DECEMBER 31, 1964. (REQUEST BY AMERICAN OIL COMPANY, c/o W G HOUSENGA, 1405
MELROSE AVENUE, MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA, 55426�•
Mr. Housenga and Mr. Brooks were present to represent Standard Oil. Mr. Housenga
presented his companies proposal to the Board. He had three complete plans,
surveys and photographs of his proposed building.
There was a petition of landowners presented to the Board with 9 families in the
area requesting denial. There was also a letter from Reverend Denyes, addressed
to Mayor Kirkham, requesting denial. Chairman Mittelstadt read the letter to the
members and visitors.
MOTION by Ahonen, seconded by Minish, that the request for a Special Use Permit,
in order to construct a service station on the Northeast corner of Osborne and
University, be denied for the following reasons:
1. There was no reasoning presented why the property could not be used
-_ for its originally zoned purpose of R-3 developement.
2. The surrounding property owners, who are represented by the petition
and letter, are opposed to the special use.
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Mr. Brooks at this time made an appeal on behalf of Standard Oil. He stated.
that Standard Oil bought the property in 1958 for the -purpose of putting a
service station on that corner. Then the company patiently waited until the
volume of traffic could support a service station. He also stated that it
would be very difficult to replace the property.
After additional discussion, Chairman Mittelstadt asked for a vo� on the
motion as presented. Upon a voice vote, Minish and Ahonen voted yes, Mittelstadt
v oted no. The motion failed to pass.
Chairman Mittelstadt stated that he voted no only to give Mr. Brooks a chance
to meet personally with the petitioners before the Council Meeting of January 8,
1968.
ITEM 1 CONTINUED - LUPIENT REQUEST•
Chairman Mittelstadt stated that although the petitioner was still no� present,
the Board would hear the several persons who appeared in opposition to the
proposal.
Mr. Roger Axmark submitted a petition with 19 dwelling owners' signatures asking
for a denial of the request.
Chairman Mittelstadt opened the floor for discussion. The complaints concerning
the proposal were:
1. It would present a parking problem.
2. The driveway would be in a dangerous position near the underpass.
3• The parking would be in line with adjacent front yards.
4. There would be no play area for children.
5. The apartment would probably decrease their property valuation.
6. The proposal is extremely short of the required land area.
Mr._riinish made a motion to deny the request for the following reasons:
1. The gross nature of the variance.
2. 19 Adjacent property owners are opposed to the variance.
3. The parking would present a problem.
4. There is insufficient play area.
The motion was seconded by Ahonen. Upon a voice vote, Ahonen, Minish, and '
Mittelstadt voted yes. The motion was unanimously approved.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Chairman Mittelstadt adjourned the meeting at
8:35 P.M.
�espectfu �1 ^mitted;
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