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PL 11/05/1969 - 31030Plannin Commission Meetin - November 5 1969 Pa e 2 �� on Page 3 pertaining to the multi le p portion of the Planned Development District. On Page 6, the first paragraph explains the use for which these lots can be put �s (I�ts 32 through 35, Block 10, Spring Brook Park) for a driveway for entrance and exit to the Planned Development property. The commercial area9 zoned R-1, may be used for parking. Darrel Clark said that when the new zoning ordinance becomes law, the parking requirement will be 1.5 stalls per unit plus one half stall for each additional bedroom, or two parking stalls for two bedroom units. Mr. Solveson supplied the following information relating to the specifie details asked for by the Planning Commission at the last meeting: The fence on the North side of the multiples will be a 5'0" chain link fence with redwood slats; in the same area, evergreen shrubs (Yew and Juniper) 4' to 5e high will be used; there will be deciduous shrubs (barberry) 2' high for parking lots; the txees around the complex will be 3" to 4" caliper,locust, ash and Sargent (flor�rering) crabapple 3" caliper; little leaf linden, 3" caliper. There will be � five foot sidewalk the length of the Planned Development oaa East River Road. He continued that the parking lots rsill be dropped about 2 feet, and the cars probably will not been seen from the street, They will have 108 ua�its and have Plans for 162 parking stalls, but they feel they can add additional stalls to con- form to the new zoning ordinance. In reply to Mr. Potts' questions the Chairman said the Commission was approving the basic concept and at some future date, the petitioner will have to come back in with a specific plan for the shopping center. He felt the shopping center would n be somewhat in the future. Mr. Solveson said that when the shopping center is developed, the traffic flow could be studied and a request for a traffic sign made at that time. �e garbage problem would be handled by a dumpster, as garbage cans wexe not allowed for apartments, and incinerators would be objectionable9 too, It is pos- sible only in high rise apartments to have inside garbage disposals. There will be parking along East River Road and whatever else depends upon what the City does with the 24 foot easement. Ttae rurioff of excess wa�er will be controlled with catch basins and outfall into the creek. Regarding the construction of the underground garages, Mr. Solveson said they would probably be concrete, poured if done by a smaZler contractor, stucco could be used. The garages will take more s�udy. MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Mittelst�dtm that the Planning Commission close the public hearing for the approval of the Preliminary Plans for the Planned Develop- ment District (ZOA ��68-10) by Howard Dumphy. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. MOTION by Mittelstadt, seconded by .Tensen, that the Planning Commission recom- mend approval of the Preliminary Plans (ZOA 4�68-10) for the Planned Development D3strict (ZOA #66-16) which, at this time, does not include the commercial area, with the following stipulations: 1)Parking stalls sha.li be L 1/2 times residential �"� units plus 16 stalls. 2) Disposal -- that the agspiic�nt ��o�rid� sc�eened disposal areas (which will prohibit scattering of refuse) in at least two locations. 3) �y exposed underground garage wall will conform to the architectural treatment of the � � PLANNING COIrffiISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 5, 1969 PAGE 1 The meeting was called to order by Chairman Erickson at 7:38 P.M. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Mittelstadt, Erickson, Jensen, Fitzpatrick Member Absent: Myhra Others Present: Darrel Clark, Engineering Assistant APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: OCTOBER 22, 1969: MOTION by Fitzpatrick, seconded by Mittelstadt, y=hat the Planning Commission minutes of October 22, 1969 be approti�ed. Upan a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. ' RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MTNUTES: OCTOBER 23 1969: MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Mittelstadt, that the Planning Commission receive the Building Standards-Design Control SubcommiLtee minutes of October 23, 1969. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES: OCTOBER 279 196�0 MOTION by Mittelsradt, s�conded b�r .��n���� �1��� ��e P:����aaba� �ow�aassion receive the Parks & Recreation Commission minutes of Oc�o��r 27fl I9690 Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES: OCTOBER 29 1969: MOTION by Mittelstadt, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the Planning Commission receive the Board of Appeals minutes of October 29, 1969. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. ORDER OF AGEIVDA m The Chairman commented, that as long as there were only six items, and there were no objections, the Commission would proceed with the Agenda as listed. 1. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING: APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT: HOWARD DU1�HY : Present were Mr. Dumphy and Mr. Solveson. �..1 The transcript of the Court was distributed to the P�an�ain� Co�ission members and Mr. Dumphy. The Engineering Assistant referred to the stipulations Planaing Commission Meeting - November 5, 1969 Page � l� apartment complex. 4) Agreement of the Planning Commission recommendation for a Special Use Permit to permit parking on Lots 32 through 35, Block 10, Spring Brook Pask, as showa on the proposed plot plan. 5) An undergrownd storm sewer �ysLr�m be provideda 6) The area Northwest of the creek will not be disturbed. 7) The Plan approved includes SitE Plan A, Sheet 1, Site Plan, Sheet la, Floor Plan A, Sheet 2 and Elevations Sheet 3. Upon a voice vote9 ail vo�.ing �ye, the motion carried unanimouslv. 2. PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT: P.S. �69-11, ANDERSON DEVELOP- MENT BY ANDERSON TRUCKING SERVICE, INC.: Northerly 750 feet of Easterly 720 feet of the Northeast quarter of the Northeast quarter of Section 12. The notice of hearing was read by Chairman Erickson. Mr. Richard A. Rennie and Mr. Kenneth Elliason, representing Anderson Trucking Service, were present. The Engineering Assistant distributed m�ps,of the proposed preliminary plat to the Commission. Mr. Elliason said the County Engineer wants to drop the grade some and use the storm drain going down Old Central to take the water away from the County right of way. Other than that, the plans remain the same as discussed at the Planning l,.,� Commission meeting of October 22, 1969. Mr. Jensen said that the comments of the Subcommittee are generally in regard to the apparent need for the sanitary sewer easement to be provided on the South line of Lots 1, 2 and 3 of the proposed plat �o provide sewer sescvice for these lots. He verified the fact that the dash lines on the proposed plat indicate the required setbacks. Inasmuch as a building is to be set far back, aaad the North portion abuts Spring Lake Park, it is to the developer's b�st interest to provide sewer along this East/West line, otherwise they found no general fault with the layout of this plan. It was noted there is no sanitary sewer on Osborne Road. Also, on Page 2 of the Plats � Subdivisioas-Streets & Utilities Subcommittee minutes of October 1, 1969, the first sentence of the second paragraph, there was an omiasion which made the sentence ambiguous. The correct wording should be "---- it was pointed out that. the structures on the South side of Osborne Road are serviced by water only". The Engineering Assistant reported that Mr. Astleford called him, and voiced no opinion about the platting. MOTION by Mittelstadt, seconded by Jensen, that the Planning Commission close the public hearing of the proposed preliminary plat, P.S. 4�69-11, Anderson Develop- ment by Anderson Trucking Service, Inc., of the Northerly 750 feet of the Easterly 720 feet of the Northeast Quarter of the Northeast Quarter of Section 12. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. � MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Mittelstadt, that the Planning Comonission recom- mend approval of the proposed preliminary plat, P.S. 4�69-11, Anderson Development, by Anderson Trucking Service, Inc., of the Northerly 750 feet of the Easterly 720 feet of the Northeast Quarter of the Northeast Quarter of Section 12, concurring with the following comments of the Plats � 3ubdi�isions-Streets & Utilities Subcom- Planning Coffiission Meetin� - November 5, 1969 Pa�e 4 mittee as shown on the drawing entitled "Anderson Development", re�i�ed edition of October 1, 1969 with the further recormneadation that the final plat show prope� sanitary sewer easement along the East/West line of the pl�t, approximately 250 feet South of the Northern boundary, and include appropriate utility easements as determined by the Engineering Department. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 3. VACATION REQUEST: SAV 4t69-11, MIKE 0'BANNON: Vacate all streets and alleys in Block 1, Irvington Addition. Mr. 0'Bannon attended the meeting, but was unable to stay until his request came up. Darrel Clark explained that the request was for the vacation of some old streets and alleys platted years ago as part of Irvington Addition and his plat, Heather Hill, will take the place of that old plat. The Chairman felt the vacation should not be granted unless all the people involved signed a petition. Mr. Jensen said the description should read "all streets in Irvington Addition with the exception of Rice Creek Road. The Engineer- ing Assistant said there was another lot, Lot 30, Block 2, Irvington Addition plus 30 feet abutting the West line of Lot 30. Mr. 0'Bannon indicated earlier he had the signature of Mr. Ed Chies, but it was understood he was not the fee owner. � MOTION by Fitzpatrick, seconded by Mittles�ad�, that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the Vacation Request, SAV ��69-11, Mike E. 0'Bannon, for the vacation of the streets and alleys in Block 1, Irvington Addition with the exception of Rice Creek Road, subject to receiving signatures of all owners in Block 1, and those adjacent property owners. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 4. REZONING REQUEST: ZOA #69-12, ROBERT V. PRITCHARD: South 2/3 of Lot 4, Auditor's Subdivision. Rezone from R-1 to R-3A. MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Mittelstadt, that the Planning Co�ission set the public hearing date of December 3, 1969 for the rezoning request, ZOA �69-12, by Robert V. Pritchard for the South 2/3 pf Lot 4, Auditor`s Subdivision 4�108, to be rezoned from R-1 (single family dwelling areas) to R-3A (apartments only). Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 5. MULTIPLE DWELLING STUDY IN CITY OF FRIDLEY: The Chairman said that he had talked to the City Engineer and was informed the study will be ready for the next meeting, as they are making more studies of the commercial properties. n No action. Planning Commission Meeting - November 5, 1969 Page 5 r"'� 6. ZONING ORDINANCE: REVIEW OF PARKING STALLS FOR APARTMENTS: The Zoning Ordinance states that the requireffients for p�rking stalls are 1 1/2 plus 1/2 for each additional bedroom. The Chairman said, when he drove �xound, he found in some locations the space, off the street, was aboaat one half full. People were not making use of the parking space provided. He noticed in driving through residential areas, that there were about just as many cars parked on the street in front of single homes. Mr. Fitzpatrick felt that the reason for this in front of the private residences was that the people did not have enough room. The Chairman won- dered if the City is not �ust as responsible for requiring single family owner�� refrain from on street parking as the apartments. The problem is with the l,e�ger complex, th�ere is parking on the street and not all the stalls are used in the parking lots. The s�� apartment units do not seem to have this probie� in m�st c��es. The trend seems definitely to point in the direction of two cars per familq, and sometimes more, as the children reach college age. An apartment with three bedrooms would have three cars. The large complexes in �ridley were not built until two years ago indicating this is a relatively new problem. Also, sometimes a boat is added to the parking lot. The Commission felt "No Parking" signs m�.ght he].p keep the people parking in the lots provided for that purpose. MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council that the Zoning Ordinance be changed or modified to include a provision for two parking stalls per unit for ail multiple dwellings. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. '"� ADJOURNMENT : There being no further business, Chairman Eriekson adjourned the meeting at 10:05 P.M. Respectfully submitted . ' '� �� �-j'�.���.�, �_C_`��.��r-,,.� Hazel 0'Brian Recording Secretary i� �1�� /n�S���� T/�-'�-n iT �io�ifii �sS/v �j �lPet� �� � � �01/� r� � � �-' S; /'9 G � � ��� _ ��r � = ss I���� ��v ' �d�� ���-��- � - � �' � /� �--�_ //, �'� {_ � ��%� � ��� _.��^�- ``-� �".. �'. . b� • �"`�'� ,Qy� c�-2iY5.//-v+ ' � ! � A1, .., � v t-y l` �.. `:. ! a� � � i� / " .J= % � � /j � /� �j�•i�:'7 @-�� ✓R.��`U�l.1'..L4� � ,�'r�.� ����.XiCJ Li ��, �' � ,�° J ���i� ".� '' �'� � S!p'°� ( 54 2 � _ '.� 1 a � -��� �� ' ����� � �fv�i � - ; ���� /�`--'�% `-` �� . 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