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PLA1vTNING CO�IISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 4, 1970
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPROVE PLANNINC COMMISSION MINUTES: OCTOBER 21, 1970
RECEIVE PLATS & SUBS.-STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCONIMITTEE MINUTES:
OCTOBER 21, 1970
RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION CON�fiSSION MINUTES: OCTOBER 26, 1970
1. PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S. ��70-04, FIVE
SAbTDS BY FIVE SANDS, INC.: Replat of Block 2, Yearson's lst
Addition and Parcel 8400.
2. PLANTING BOUI.EVARD (40 FEET) IN MOORE LAKE HIGHLANDS 4TH
ADDITION.
�eferred to Parlcs & Recre:tion CoMmission for suggestions.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 21, 1970 8:00 P.M.
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� The meeting was called to order by Chairman Erickson at 8:-00 P.M.
ROLL CALL :
Members Present: Minish, Iiarris, Erickson, Fitzpatrick, Schmedeke
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Darrel Clark, Engineering Assistant
APPROVE PLANNING CO1�IIrIISSION MINUTES: OCTOBER 7, 1970:
1�TION by Minish, seconded by tiarris, that the Planning Cammission Minutes
of October 7, 1970 be approved as written. Upan a voice vote, alI voting a�e,
the motion carried unanimously.
RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEAI.S MINUTES: OGTOBER 13, 1970
1MOZ70N by Minish, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the PZanning Coaenfssion
receive the minutes of the Board of Appeals meeting of October 13, 1970. Upon
a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
REOPEN APPROVAI: OF PLANNING OOrIl�iISSION MINUTES OF OCTOBER 7, 1970:
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,MOTION by Minish, seconded by Harris, that the Planning Coam�.iasion reopen
the approval of the minutes of October 7, 1970. Upari a voice vote, a11 vating
aye, the motion carried unanimausly.
The minutes of October 7, 1970 stated the abstention fram votin� by Mr.
Schu�edeke wae for the September 9, 1970 minutes, but he actuallq abatained
from voting on the minutes of August 19, 1970.
IUOT�ON by Fitzpatr3ck, $econded by Minish, that the Planning Commiss�,on
minutes vf October 7, 1970 be amended as stated abope. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
1. LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L.S. �70-12, BY STJI+�IIT GEAR, INC.: Lot 6, Auditor�e
St�: �ri78 -- to split off the South 200 feet of the East 363 feet, the
balance of the property has been sold.
Mr. H. J. Rohnen of Sumo�it Gear, Incorporated was present.
The Plats & Subdivisions-Streets & Utilitiea Subcommittee coa'►vened at 7;OQ
o'clock thia.evening aad considered this request. Mr. Schmedeke expl�iaed that
the Subcom�nittee recommended approval to split off the South Z00 feet of'the
��st 363 feet of Lot 6, Auditor's Subdivi$ion �78 (location of Summi.t Ge�r Cct.).
1'he balance of I,ot 6, together with Lot 7, was sold to the railroad compr�y.
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The Subcommittee wished to call attention to the fact that the East 33
^ feet of Lot 6 was being used for Main Street, but the half section does not
show it, although the street is in. They felt the deed had been signed but
not recorded. However, the City legally owns the property because the road
has been there since 1956 and became a public street.
Reference was made to Parcel 1900, the 22.5 foot descrigtian gap and the
Commission agreed this would be no problem as it is located between Lots 6
and 7.which are under one ownership. They would asaume the railroad company
had acquired it. The railroad company was told about the description gap. In
orier to get a clear title, the original owner has to be contacted, If he is
"long gone" or cannot be located, then the title has to be cleared by the court�
Darrel Clark explained they have sold off more than half of Lot 6, �nd
}he lot split request wouZd split the land into two pieces. Sumaait Gear Company
would still meet all the requirements of the ordinance for setbacks, etc.
Sum�it Gear Company sold the land about a year ago but was not aware they k�ad
to have a lot split approved before the assessmenta could be split.
MOTTON by Schmedeke, seconded by Harris, that the Planning Cammission
reccaanend approval to the City Council of the Zot split request, L.S. #74-12,
by Summit Gear, Incorporated to split off the South 20U feet of tiie East 363
feet of Lot 6, Auditor's Subdivision #78 as described in t2;e Lot Split App.1�c�^
tivn subject to the deternu:nation that the proper essement d�ed for �he 3,� g��t
along Main Street be fil.ed in Anoka County. Upon a voice vote, a11 vat.ing �y��
the motion carried unanimously.
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2. OONFIRM PUBLIC HEARING DATE OF NOVEMBER 4, 1970
ARY PLAT. P.S. �70-04, FIVE_SANDS, BY FIVE SAND
As explained by Darxel Clark, the reason for platting is tha�t each btt�ld�
ing �vi�.l have its separat� mortgage and assessments. The registrar of deeds
would not accept the present descriptions inasmuch as the land ia torrens,
Streets and utilities easements cannot be dedicated unless they plat. Accoxd-
ing tp the schedule, Phase l is the application for the mortgage.
Darrel Clark continued that the Subcommittee, which met previously th�$
evening raised many questions and they are going to ask information from the
Citq Attorney. There are two fee awners. Lots 1 through 6, �eaXSOn's le�
Addi'tipn is owned by Five Sands, Inc. and Pearson's Inc. owns the portion to
the South. .
MC3TION by Harris, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the Planning Gommissipn
confirm the public hearing date of November 4, 1970 for the preliminar� pTatf
P.S. #70-04, Five �ands,by Five Sands, Incorpoxated. Upon a voice vote, a�,l
voting aye, the rrrotion carried unanimously.
3. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L S ��70-13. DUFFY LIIrIBER COMPANY REPRESBNTEp BX'
JA�S M. NEILSON: Lots 8 and 9, Block 6, Spring Brook Park.
Mr. Neilson was unab�.e to be present.
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The Engineering Assistant said that the reason for splitting is to take a
^ small part of Lot 8 and give that small part to Lots 9 and 10, and then give
a small portion of Lot 9 to go with Lots 6, 7 and 8. Back in 1960, �he lots
had been split, but the petitioners did not want to use this description atid
were asking for a new split, which they fe�t would straighten the �at line.
This property is under one ownership and probably will be up for sale. The
area requirements are adequate.
The Commission commented on the fact that, under the request, the new lot
line would be only S feet from the garage and noted the house faced Longfellow
Avenue. Considering the amount of land involved, Chairman Erickson suggested
a new lot line which would give a straight line to the lots and allow the
south�rly tr�ct more room North of the garage. The certificate of aurvey.
dated May 26, 1970, presented this evening was designated as "�xhibit A". A
line was drawn from the Northeast corner of Lot 8 and marked point "A�" Ca a
point on the�West line of Lot 9 located 69 feet North ot the southwest cqrner
of Lot 10 and marked point "B".
NOTION by Harris, seconded by Minish, that the Planning Commission re�oan�
mend approval of Lot Split L.S. #70-13, Duffy Lumber Company by James M• Nei�SOn,
attorney, of Lots 8 and 9, Block 6, Spring Brook Park with the following sug-
gested change: On the street line running from a point fro�a� the Northeast
corner of Lot 8, designated as point "A", to a point on the West line of ,�,o� 9
located 69 feet North of the Southwest corner of Lot 10, designated es poilat
"B" as per Exhibit "A" of October 21, 1970; the reason being that unde�' ti�� p�d
proposa.l, they did not have enough rear yard setback, and, a1so, the recp�e�ided
� chanqe of the Commission would give more area to the southerly site and st�i.�.�
acco�pp��sh a straight Iine. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting a�e, the motion
carried unanimously,
Mr, Schmedeke explained that the Subco�nniz�ee received this i.nformati.on
on].q this evening. The Subcommittee would have liked to walk ove� the �it��
but fe1C that pe�rhaps the petitioner had a reason for requesting tt�is lin�,
but on the other hand, Chairman Erickson's suggestion seems to be very
agreeab�e.
k. PLAI�ITING BOULEVARD (40 FEET) IN MOORE LAKE HIGHLANDS 4TH ADDITION:
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The Cq�ission expressed their thanks to Mr. Fitzpatrick, Chairman qf
Parks and Recreation Commission, for the informative report on "Trees and
Shrubs $est Suited �o Fridley Soil". An item of surprise was tha� the box eld��'
and maple were related.
Mr. Schmedeke said that he wished to thank the Parks and Recxeation�
Aepartment on behalf of the Planning Commission for their time anci e�fprt put
into this �tudy. He thought Paul Brown and Ralph Volkman should be congx�tu--
7.ated. He fel� he learned a lot by reading the report. He thought Che �u�.ld-
ing Inspection Department should be given this report for theix uae. He wt►n-�
�dered if the City ahould try plgnting evergreen in the Planting Boul�vard,
He felt that the Parks and Recreation Commission should make a plan far the
area atid suggest ways of accpmplishing it. Darrel Clark ment�oned that the��a
� is a c18$s at the high school that does a lot of outside naxur� wo�'k. In
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other areas, there have been cases where there is a credit in nat�ure study.
^ Mr. Fitzpatrick felt the Commission should not only consider a solution to the
Planting Strip in Moore Lake I�'ighlands 4th Addition, but consider improving
landscaping o� gasoline stations.
Chairman Erickson asked if the City had ever given any thought to starting
its own nursery. The members agreed that this should be considered by the
Parks and Recreation Commission.
Mr. Schmedeke passed a�ound a copy of the Septamber and October issue of
�,a Cor�s��'vation Volunteer pub�ished by �he State Conservation Aep�rtm�n�t.
The booklet had many interesting and little known facts about tre��e
ADJOURNMENT :
There be�:.g no further business,_ Chairman Erickson adjourned the meeting
at 9:15 P.M.
Respectfully submitted
Hazel 0'Brian
Recording Secretary
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OFFICIAL NOTICE
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNING CONIMISSION
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing
of the Planning Commission of the City of Fridley.in the City Hall
at 6431 University Avenue North.east on November 4, 1970 in the Council
Chamber at 8:00 P.M. for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Proposed Preliminary Plat,
P.S. ��70-04, Five Sands by Five Sands, Incor-
porated being described as Lots 1 through 6,
Block 2, Pearson's lst Addition and vacated
James Street adjoining, together with that part
of the S�g of the SFi� of Section 3, T-30, R-24,
lying southerly of said Pearson's lst Addition,
�,iesterly of the Burlington Northern Ra.ilway right
of way, easterly of the East River Road, and
northerly of Pearson's 2nd Addition; except that
part lying southerly of the easterly extension of
Che northerly line of said Pearson's 2nd Addition,
lying in Section 3, T-30, R-24, City of Fridley,
County of Anoka, Minnesota.
Generally located South of 79th Way, East of East
River Road, West of the railroad tracks and North
of 77th Way.
Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above
matter will be heard at this meeting.
OLIVER R.
CHAIRM�,N
PLANNING
^ Publish: October 21, 1970
October 28, 1970
ERICKSON
COI�'IISSION
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PI..ANNYIdG AND ZONINC FOI�tM
p�tr P.S. ��70-04 FIVE SANDS
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Five Sands, A limited partershi , Richard H. Fudali -
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TYYE dF �QUEST
Rezonia�
Special Uae Permit
Variance
Lot Splita
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T� lephon�s Alt+�abex 7� ��
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Approv,�1 of Final
S C= Pearso� Inc. owner,.Five Sands, cont�rac for deed P��t
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Telephon� N�amber ' Qther
Str�et Location of Prop�rty South of 79th Way and East of East River Road
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Le$al D���cxip�ion of Property See Atta�hments f�r full and condensed desc,�iptions
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Preaeat Zot►in� C183sification R-3
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Existin� Ue� of th� Prop��ty_ I- 59 unit apartment buildin�under construction ,
BropoBed Zoning Cla�sification, Sp�cigl U��, Varia�ce ar other requer�t
_ Na�,hanae reauested
D��cxib� briefly the Zjrgc� of Une� �nd the Improv�nt Pr�poa�d p� r�pertX,t�„_
allow simplified descriptions for 5 apmt, sites and onE common recreation site
l�creg�e of Pro��gty l7.6 acres
N�� th� Prcaaat A�plie�ne Pr�viou�ly 39ught to �te�one, P18t� t�'btain e i,flt Split�
Obt�in a V�riance er �pyci�l Uae Per�ie on th2 Subj@ct Site or Part o� It4 Yes
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What w�o Requcat�d F�e Enclo�ed $
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; PLANNIN� ANn 20NING'FORM
Number P.S. 4�70-04
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yhe uudersigned underetands thet: (a)
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Residents and Owners of �roperty wiChin
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Sez attached lists
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PACE 2
A list of aIl residents and owners of pro�
perty 4�ithin 300 feet must be attached to
this application.
This application m�st be eigned by all
owners of thz property, or an explanation
�iven why �►�is is not the case.
Responsibility for any defect in the pro-
ceedings �esu).tin� from the failure to liat
the c►ames End add•resses of all reaidents
and piaperty owr�ers of property within 300
feet of the propc.i:y iq queation, beloags
to the undcrsi�ned.
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A sketch of proposed property and stxucture mu�t be dra�in on the bt�ck of this
form ot' attaehed, showing the Eollo��i��: Z� �CBtioaroftProposed Structure on lot.
Pi•oposed plat given to City Engineering dept. 3� pimensions of property, propo3ed
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structur...
4. Street Names
� S, Location �nd use of adjacent exist�.ng
buildings (within 300 feet).
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The undersigned hereby declares that all the facts and representa oc�s
this application are true and correct.
October 15, 1970 SIGivATURE��,��`� -S�'"`�' �'�-', � '`-�--��--
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Approved D�nied __� By the' aos�d a� �ip�ei�is .� •___ _
Subject.to the Followin� Conditions:
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Approved tienfed by the Plannin� Comaaission on �____.
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Approved Denied by the Council on
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JAMES L. KURTH
LAND & CONSTRUCTION SURVEYOR
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October 14, 1970
PROPOSED PLAT OF "F I V E S A N D S" (abbreviated description)
P.S. ��70-04 Five Sands '
Lots I thru 6, Block 2, Pearson's Ist Addition and vacated James St, adjoir�ing,
together with that part of the S 1�2 of the SE 1�4 of Section 3, T_30, R 24,
lying southerly of said Pearson's lst Addition, westerly of the Burlington
Northern Rai Iway right-of-woy, easterly of the East River Road, and
northerly of Pearson'ss 2nd �'.ddition; except that part lying southerly of
the easterly extension of the northerly line of said �earson's 2nd Addition.
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PROPOSED " F1VE SANDS " ADDITI�JN
PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE SITE
�. Juster Enterprises - 311 Produce Bank Bldg., M�.is.
2, Francis Anderson - 7748 NE. Elm St. - Fridley
3. Richard Rush - 3619 Janssen Ave. No., Chicago III. 60613
4. Dr..irving Herman - 2605 Natchez Ave. So., Mpls.
5. Charles Floer - Ibl 79th • Way NE. , Fridley ,
6. Peter P{atakias - 862 22nd Ave. SE., Mpis.
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John T. Kelly - 3801 Crystal Lake 6lvd. , Robbinsdale
Cyril Paulson - 131 79th Way NE„ Fridle'y
Rodney Gooler - 5618 Sbth Ave. No., Mpls
Winston Jacobson - 121 79th Way NE., Fridley
John Hayes - 136 Liberty St. NE„ Fridley
Agnes Ekola, c% Hulstand and Abate, Hibbing, Minn.
Glenn Stack- 821 Washington St. , Anoka
14. Donald McCarty - 144 Longfeltow NE. , Fridl'ey
15. Arthur �almer -!54 L�ngfellow NE„ Fridley
(6. Eugene Pett - 176 Longfellow NE., Fridley
�7; Maynard Schommer - 7905 E. River Road, Fridley
18. A. E. Welter - 231 79th Way NE. , Fridley
19. George Johnson - 2il 79th EWay NE., Fridley
20. Charles Fjeld - 210 tongfellow, Fridley
21, Mike Ledford - 230 Longfe{low, Fridley
22, N. P. Hayes - 6132 Elm St. , Morton Grove, 111. 60053
23. Walter Schultz - 2b0 Longfellow, Fridley
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Carl Lundberg - 280 Longfellow, Fridtey
Larry Miller - 7889 Firwood, Fridley
Viola Froneyberger - 7883 Firwood, Fridley
Kirylo Czichray - 7879 Firwood, Fridley
� Garden City Construction - 801 2nd Ave. No. Mpls.
Ronald Tschetter - 7861 Firwood, Fridley
Mari (yn E. Johnson - 7833 Fi rwood, Fridley
Bruce Miller - 7872 Firwood, Fridley
David Kaliher - 7866 Firwood, Fridiey
Neil Hyatt - 7858 Firwood, Fridley
Robert Berg - 7852 -Firwood, Fridley
Lee Boerboon - 7844 Firwood, Fridley
Raymond Stewart - 7838 Firwood, Fridley •
Edward Willey - 7830 Firwood, Fridley
Norman Johnson - 2I4 Pearson Way, Fridley
Douglas Lindquist - 194 Pearson Way, Fridley
William Lockrem - i74 Pearson Way, Fridley
Je�rold Carlson - 184 Pearson Way, Fridley
Carl Rueben - 165 Crc��gbrook, FRidley
Eldon Metoxas - 175 Craigbrook, Fridley
Roger Jones •- 185 Croigbrook, Fridley
Edwin Hinden - 195 Craigbrook, Frid(ey
Edward Ahrens - (60 Craigbrook, Fridley
Donald Germain - 170 Craigbrook, Fridley
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PROPOSED " FIVE SANDS " ADDITION P.S. ��70-04
Leonard $randt - 190 Craigbrook, Fridley -
Joseph Richter 1r. - 165 Stony6rook, Fridley �
,}ohn Dunphy - ISS Stonybrook, Fridley
Charles Martin - 133 Stonybrook, Fridley
Alois Falkenstein -- 8931� York Road, Mpls.
Hennepin Trading Co. Inc.� - 425 Merchandise Bldg. , bth 8 Hennepin, Mpls.
Richard J. Parish - 5830 Admiral Lane, Mpls.
Wyman Smith - 211 NE. Logan Parkway, Mpls.
Wemac Inc. - 99 77th Way NE. FRidley
David Stivers - 221 79th Way N.E.
Five Sands, Inc. - 2408 Central Ave. - Mp1s. 55418
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STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCO�iITTEE MEETING OCTOBER 21, 1970 7:00 P.M. PAGE 1
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Schmedeke at 7:05 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Zeglen, Kelshaw, Meissner, Schmedeke
Member Absent: Crowder
Others Present: Darrel Clark, Engineering Assistant
1. LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L.S. #70-12, BY SUI�fIT GEAA INC.: Lot 6, Auditor's
Subdivis�.on #78: To split off the South 200 ft. of the East 363 ft.
of Lot 6- balance of property has been sold.
Mr. H. J. Rohnen was the representative from Summit Gear Co. attid explained
that this property had been sold some time ago but the proper Application was
not filed at that time and the assessments could not be divided. fle would appre�-
ciate the request� acted on before the end of the year in order for the 1971
tax stat�ent to be corrected. The property sold was Lot 7 and Lot 6 eacept
the South 200 feet of the �ast 363 feet where the present building is. The
firat sale waa in January of 196g to the Reuter Company and then in January of
1970 this campany sold to the railroad company.
�' Mr. Schmedeke asked if the West line would be even with the West line of
the Columbia Mill Works property and Drug Supply. He vas seoured it would.
Mr. Meissner called attention to Parcel 1900, which is about 22.5 feet wide,
located beCween Lots 6 a�d 7. The Engineering Assistant explained that this is
called a description gap. As long as the property North and South of the "gap"
is undex one ownership, it would not be difficult to acquire the land. This
situation is caused by �tarting to survey a piece of land at both ends and,
when the middle is reached and the measurements do not coincide, the difference
is cal].ed a"description gap". In this case, there is extra land left over
and the railroad company owns property on both stdes of the gap.
The certificate of survey presented by Mr. Kohnen shawed a 33 fuot ded�.cs►-�
tioa for a road along Main Street. It was felt that, as long as the half sectio�n
did not shaw this dedication, the deed probably was not filed and should be
checked fur�her by the Engineering Department.
1MOTION by Meissner, seconded by Zeglen, that the P1ats 6 Subdivisio�s-
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee recommend approval to the Planni.ng Co�niss,ion
of thg 1ot split request, L.S. �170-12, by Sumnit Gesr, Inc. to split off the
South 200 feet oi the Bast 363 feet of Lot 6, Auditor's Subdivision #78 a�s
desaribed in the 1ot split application subject to the determination that the
prpper easement for the 33 feet alonq Main Street be filed'in Anoka County.
Upon s vaice vote, a11 v�oting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
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� 2. LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L S �70-13, BY DUFFY LUMBER CQMPANY REPRESENTED BY
JAMES N. NEILSON, ATTY.: Lots 8 and 9, Block 6, Spring Brook Park.
Darrel Clark said that the original lot split was recorded in the County
in 1960. The land and dwellings are now under one awnership and the owner wishes
to sell, but does not want to use the 1960 lot line and is requesting a new lot
line. The proposed lot line would meet the sideyard require�ents for the
garage on Lot 8, and the land area for the dwelling on Lots 6, 7 and 8 is more
than adequate to meet the ordinance requirements. Also, the new line would be
straight. There would be no difficulty with the legal description which �.s a
little bi� long but very cl�ar.
Chairman Schmedeke explained that as long as the owner is the same for both
parcels, and the proposed lot line wi11 a�.law sufficient land area to meet th�
City Codes, it would seem logical to concur. .
MOTION by Zeglen, seconded by Meissner, that the P1ats & Subdivisions-
Streets 6 Utilities Subcommittee recommend to the Planning Canmission appz�pval
of the lot sp�it request, L.S. #70-Z3, by Duffy LWnber Company of Iqts 8 and
9, Block 6, Spring Brook Park as shown on the certificate of survey dated
May 26, i970. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously,
3. PRpPUSED PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S. 4�70-OG, FIVE SANDS BY FIVE SANDS�_INC.:
Generally located South of 79th Way, East of East River Road, Weat Q£ Ch8
railroad tracks and North of 78th Way.
� Chai�man Schmedeke reminded the Subcommittee that it was not necessazy to
act on the request this evening because it is quite a large project and th�
public hearing before the Planning ComQaission is November 4, 1970.
Mr. James Kurth, surveyor, represented the Five Sands, Inc.
Mr. Zeglen commented he noticed construction of an apartment on Lot 1.
Mr. Kurth said that the concept will be built in Phases because o£ financing.
When one structure is completed, they will be able to get the money to st$�t
anothex', In order to get the assessments for each building, the lots would
have to be defined. At the present time, there �re two fee awnexs, Five Sa�3ds�
Tnc. and Pearson's Inc.; however, Five Sands, Zne. have a contract to pux�hase
a�l the property in the proposed plat. The problem was whether to plat ax' havs
a registered land survey. Because the property was torrens, platting was
chosen �s easements for streets and utilities would be necee.sary.
A map will be available for the Subcommittee at the next meeting showit�g
the water system, and they are using underground utilities� Mr. Kurth said,
Mr. Meissner asked the purpose of the Outlots. Mr. Kurth explained that
an ou�lot is a piece of property which is impossible ta use for normal bui.lding
site, and is usually sold in conjunction with the adjoining lot, or is used fox
some other purpose than a regular lot. In the proposed plat there a�e ssven
lots and three outlots, A, B and C. Lot 7 will be used for a recreation a�e�
and will be called a com�non area lot in that each of the unita surrounding Che
^ lot have the right to use the facilities. Outlots call attent:Con to the �'ac�
that there is something to look into so that the buyer would beware.
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�„� Mr. Kurth said that the building plans have been checked by the fize
department. There will be 295 apartments and 580 parking stalls. There are
no plans to use the Outlots. The land to the South contains the Pool Center,
Barry Blvwer and open land.
The Engineering Assistant said that any legal problems would be gone over
with the City Attorney.
MOTION by Zeglen, seconded by Kelshaw, that the proposed preliminary plat,
P.S. #70-04, Five Sands, by Five Sands, Incorpoz'�ted be tabled until, the
November 4, 1970 meeta.ng. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion c�rz'ied
unc�ni mous 1 y . .
ADJOURNMENT:
There beins no further business, Chairman Schmedeke adjourned the meeting
at 7:50 P.M.
Respectfully submitted
Hazel 0'Brian
Recording Secretary
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MINUTES OF REGULAR PARKS AND RECREATION CONIl�IISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 26, 1970.
Meeting was called to order at 7:29 p.m. by Chairman Fitzpatrick.
/, MEMBERS PRESENT: Fitzpatrick, Blair, Ash, Novitsky, Olson. �
MEMBERS ABSENT: None.
OTHERS PRESENT: Chuck Kasick, 7361 Concerto Curve, 786-2345, Grace High School.
Louis Mitteco, 1060 26th Avenue SE, 331-5583, Grace High School.
Vern Hughes, 7374 Van Buren Street NE, 784-3914, Grace High School.
Jerry Ingaldson, 6777 7th Street NE, 560-3467, H.A.F.
Dick Nord, 6805 Washington Street NE, 560-3198, H.A.F.
A1 Kordiak, 3948 Central Avenue NE, 788-9651, Anoka Co. Commissioner.
Paul Brown, Director of Parks and Recreation.
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING, SEPTEMBER 28, 1970.
Chairman Fitzpatrick made the following correction in the minutes: Under the
heading LAWCON, it should say: "Mr. Fitzpatrick said that the original plan
for the North Park area, as far as finances were concerned, was to get half o£
the amount from Federal Aid, one quarter from the State, and the remaining
quarter is the respbnsibility of the City."
MOTION by B.Ca.i�c., Seconde.d by Nav.i.iaky, �a accepz �h.e m.i.►iu.teb, aa co�vicec.ted, ob
�he ne,gu.ewc mee,ti.ng on Sep�embeJc 28, 1910. The Mo�,i,on c.cvvu.ed.
GRACE HiGH SCHpOL SKATING FACILITY.
Three representatives of Grace High School, were present to present their request
to the Parks and Recreation Commission, £or consideratian of an agreement, between
^ the City of Fridley and Grace High School, to provide ice skating facilities and
a hockey rink, on Grace High School property. The legal aspects of this agreement
were brought forward. The Director will investigate this angle. Mr. Mitteco
presented Grace High School�s plans to the Commission for consideration. 'Fhis
plan included the use of the area for the rink, power for electr�c lights, and
power poles for light installation.
Mr. Blair expressed interest and his support of this program, if it is legal. The
Director pointed out the fact that there is no skating facility, or park property,
in that particular section o� Fridley and this facility would serve the neighbor-
hood in the evening hours and weekends, and the school could make use of it a£tex
school. A general skating area would be included.
MOT�ON by B.�a.in, Secande.d by Nov-c.tafzy, �an .the C.i.t,y ab Fn,i.d.�ey and Gna.c.e Hi.gh
Schao.� �o e.n.ten. .i.wta agnee�ne.r�t an eaza.b�P,i,ah.i,ng a aka,ti.ng �c.i.nk and hockey n.i.nk
an Gnace H�,gh Sehoo.� p�wpenty, w�i�th mu�-,ua.� uee a� �h.e �ac.i.e,i�y ae .ihe prc.imany
punpoae, wi�h cond,i.de,�ccLti.an be.i.ng g�.ven �to �'h.e C.i,ty os �n.i,d.�ey, �on u,a.ing �h.e
.in.doon g ymna.a.f.um '�ae,i.e,i,ti.ea when ava.i,�ccb.�e a,t Gnace H.i.g h Sehoa�.. The Mo�',i.an �a�.i.ed.
ANOKA COUNTY REPORT.
Mr. A1 Kordiak, Anoka County Commissioner; was present at the meeting, to brief
the Commission on the progress and develop�ent made by the County. Mr. Koxdiak
explained the County concept on Parks and their purchasing policy, in respect tp
land. The Commission wondered if there was any way that the County and the City
could work together on purchases of land for parks? Mr. Kordiak explained that
^ the County is interested �n land near rivers, lakes, and streams, qr parcels
of at least 200 acres. Mr. Kordiak invited the Commission to contact the County
on any future plans to purchase land, and they.would give it full consideratian
in respect to mutual use and/or purchase.
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October 26 1970. Page 2
Minutes of the Regular Meeting, ,
H.A.F. RULES AND REGULATIONS.
^ The Commission welcomed two members of the H.A.F. to review and update all
rules and regulations concerning the H.A.F. Program for 1970 - 1971. The
Director outlined the rules and regulations for this coming year. There were
corrections and additions made to this list. Mr. Ingaldson requested better
maintenance, having the attendants at the warming houses on time, and also to
give consideration to having make up games on Saturday mornings. Mr. Nord
explained the divisions, ages, fees, and overall outlook for the program in
1970 - 1971. It was pointed out that there has been a terrific increase in
the program over the past two years and the tr3veling divisions are also
expanding. A new Midget Division will be offered this year for boys 15 and 16
years of age. The Commission and representatives spent additional time asking
auestions and providing general information about the program.
1971 BUDGET.
The Director informed the Commission of additions and cuts made by the City
Council, to the 1971 Parks and Recreation Budget. No date has been set for the
meeting with the Commission and the City Council.
WATERWAY NAMING.
Chairman Fitzpatrick informed the Commission that a name is needed for the
waterway which passes through the Craigway Addition.
MOTI�N by �.P�an, Seeanded by Nav�f�y, g�i.v�.ng xhe Cha,t�rman �h.e au�han.i,iy �a
^ name �he waxe�rway, an beha.P.� a� �h.e Camnu.a.a�.on, wh,i.eh paabea �.ou.9h C'�.a.i9way
AdcLi,t�,an. The Ma�',i.an ca�rh�.2d.
ADULT SQUAitE DANCE PROGRAM.
MOTION by UR�an, Secanded by Bea,uc, a.u�'h.o�.i,z.i.re9 �h.e �.vice.c�on �a negax,i.a.te p-2a.nb
and behedu.ee a� �h.e AduX� Squane Dance Pnognam, xo be bupeh.v.i.ae,d and dvi.ee,ted
by Mrc, J.im Sach.e.t.t, �an �he cam.i.ng �eadon. The Ma�',i.an ca�J�.i.ed.
TREES AND SHRUBS STUDX AND REPORT.
Chairman Fitzpatxick commended Park Foreman, Ralph Volkman, and the Department,
for the Trees and Shrubs Report that the Plann�ng Commission requested. He
stated the Planning Commission was most appreciative for this dqcument in order
to est�blish the proper plantings and additions to the City of Fridley.
LETTER OF THANKS TO F.Y.F.A.
Mr. Olson requested that the Director write a lett8r of thanks and appreciation
to the Fridley Xouth Football Association, for all their fine efforts and work
during the current Youth Football Season. •
FOLICX ON SQFTBALL TOURNAMENTS.
Mr. Blair requested an up to date report on suggested policy on &oitball Tourna-
ments. The Director stated that the draft was almost complete.
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ADJOURNMENT.
MOTIUN by �k.a.vr., Seeanded by A.ah, �p ad�ounn xh.e mee.t,i.ng a.� 10:24 p.m.
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Minutes of the
ar Meeting, October 26, 1970.
ADJOURNMENT (continued):
The next regular meeting wil� be held on Monday, November 23,
in the conference room at Civic Center.
Respectfully submitted,
P BROWN, Acting Secretary to Commission
PS:cs
DISTRIBUTION OF MINUTES.
Visitors Presen� at Meeting.
Parties Affected.
City Council.
City Commissions.
City Departments.
Anoka County Commissioner.
Park Consultant.
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1970, at 7:30 p.m•,
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