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The meeting was called to order at 7:50 P.M. by Chairman Erickson.
ROLL CALL:
1rYembers Present: Erickson, Myhra, Jensen, Fitzpatrick
Member Absent: Mittelstadt
Others Present : Darrel Clark, Engineering Assistant
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: DECEMBER 17, 1969:
MOTION by Myhra, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the Plann�ng Commission
minutes of December 17, 1969 be approved. Upon a voice vote, all voting aqe,
the motion carried unanimously.
RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL MINUTES: DECEMBER 18 1969:
MOTION by Fitzpatrick, seconded by Myhra, that the Planning Commission
receive the minutes of the Build�ng Standards-Design Control meeting of
December 18, 1969. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES: JANUARY 14 1970:
MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the Planning Co�isaion
receive the minutes of the Board of Appeals meeting of January.l4, 1970.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
RECEIVE PARR AND RECREATION MINUTES: JANUARY 19, 1970:
MOTION by Myhra, seco�ded by Jensen, �hat the PYanning Co�mutesion receive
the minutes of the Park and Recreation Commission meeting of Januarq 19, 1970.
Upon a voice vote, all voting.aye, the motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Myhra, eeconded by Fitzpatrick, that item 4�3 on the agen�ia be
moved to item ��1 because Mr. Myhra must leave the meeting at 9:30 P.M. leaving
only two voting members available for the Shorewood Pl�za vote because Mr.
Jensen is abstaining. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carriea
unanimously.
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SALI
ON
Mr. Jensen inform�d the Planning Commission that the Plats & Subdivisions-
Streeta 6 Utilities Subcommittee had recommended approval of the proposed plat.
Mr. Wpman Smith, representing Mr. Saliterman, explained to the Planning
Commniesion that the preliminary plat involves the Shorewood Plaza Shopping
Center. It's lengthy meets and bounda description hampers work and the City
has wanted it platted for years for ease in processing. Also, the platting
is needed for the dedications of easements f�r sewer and water that runs
through the property. The lines have existed �'or years but there have been no
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�' dedications. The City also has an interest in the acre where the Shorewood
Liquor store is located.
The plat has been broken up into Lots and Blocks to serve the existing
buildings and those under conatruction. One lot on Old Central is zoned PD,
the rest are C-2S. Aaving a separate lot for the Plan�ed Development area
wi1L make the development description easier. �
There is a provieion for the vacation of an L shaped area which was
conveqed to the Village yeara ago for storm sewer dr�inage. The owner would
like it conveyed back and he will give the City easements for storm sewers.
The plat was prepared by Suburban Engineering and revised to carrq out
the Engineering Departments suggestions.
Chairman Erickson asked if the Shorewood Lounge property is part of the
plat? Mr. Smith told him it was not.
. Mr. Jensen said there will be a document, which will not be filed, for
the storm sewer easement because there is some question on the ultimate development
of the property and the route of the stor� sewer. The actual easement will be
filed when the final development has been decided ona
Chairman Erickaon then explained to the people�that this was not a
,� rezoning, only a pl�ttiag of the property. That is, merely a division of the
property into lots and blocks.
Chairman Erickaon meationed that the �greement concerning the storm aewer
easement throu�h the property should be in the motion. They would have to
agree to pxovide an easement to the City. The storm sewer now in this area is
just an open ditch but a new one would not be assessed to the people.
I�. Mqhra mentioned that there was a 50 fo�t error in the North-South
measurement of Lot 1, it should be shortened 50 feet to conform with other
Planned Development Districts.
MOTION by Myhra, seconded by Fitzpat�ick that P.S. 4i69-12 be recommended
for approval subject to a correction in the measurement of Lot 1 to have it
conform to the dimenaion of the Planned Development District; and subject
also that an agreemant be reached between the petitioner and the City of Fridley
that the petitioner provide a storm sewer e�sement at such time that the City
requests it.
A member of the audience askec why there wasn't a date set for the storm
sewer.
Darrel explained that the exact outfall for the storm �ewer ha� �ot yet
been determined.
(Ihairman Erickson �dded that there is a great deal of uncertainty as to
whether or not an underground storm sewer will ever be put in that area and
�` that the primary concern of the �om�ai.ssion ia if and when it is determined
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that an underground system is needed the petitioner will provide the easement.
Upon a voice vote, Erickson, Myhra, Fitzpatrick voting aye, Jensen abstaining,
the motion carried unanimouslyo
2. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING REQUEST, ZOA 4�'69-12, ROBERT V.
PRITCHARD: South 2/3 of Lot 4, Auditor's Subdivision No. 108.
Mr. Thomas E. Marxen - 1620 Onondaga St.- stated that he wanted the area
developed in the right way. He has no objection to the development but he
wants it done in the right way. He also stated that he had discussed the problems
with Mr. Pritcha�rd but nothing had been xesolved.
Chairman Erickson commented that the Planning Commission has been tabling
this item for some time because Mr. Pritchard has not been here, and it was hia
understanding that Mr. Pritchard was going to gather more information before
bringing it back befare the Planning Commission.
Dasrel Clark added. that Mr. George Nelson, Lots 30 & 31, had been in to see
him last week and had stated that he was going to reapply for his rezoning in
this axea.
P4r. Erickson co�nented that Mr. Nelson's rezoning had been tabled until
the Apartment Survey was completed and he felt that Mr. Nelson's rezoning was
a factor and Mr. Pritchard's could not be considered without it.
Darrel said th�t he would speak to both parties.
MOTION by Myhra� seconded by Jensen to continue the rezoning request
ZOA 4�69-12, by Robert V. Pritchard, ind�efin�.tly, the purpo�e being to put it
off until fu�ther iraformation is receiv�d to reach a conclusion.
Darrel mentioned that the Planning Commission was getting close to �he
90 day iimit.
NfOTION by Fitzpa�rick, seconded by riyhra, to ask the City Council to
extend the Planning Commission time to act on the matt�r for 60 days. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion �arried unanimo'isly.
3. PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING itEQUEST (?OA ��70-01), NORMAN E. RIEDEL: On 5th
Street to 7th Stxeet, from Mississippi Stxe�t to 63rd Avenue N.E.
MOTION by Myhra, seconded by Fitzpatrick, to dispense with the reading
of the Public Hearing Notice. L;pon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously.
Chairman Erickson explained the locat3on of the property to the people
in the audience. The property is bound on the West by 5th Street, on the East
bq 7th Street, on the North by Mississippi Street, �nd on the South by 63rd
Avenue. He then introduced Mr. S. Sokolowski who is representing Mr.�Riddel.
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'� Mr. Sokolowski explained that the Riedel property has been vacant and
unimproved for sometime. There had been previous hearings for rezoning on the
property.
The apartment complex that Mr. Riedel is suggesting would coat between
$2.7 and $3 million dollars to build, and consist of 4 buildings containing
60 units e�ch, making a total of 240 units. Each building would consist of
42 sin�le and 18 double bedroom unit�. The rent for each unit would run
between $170 and $190 per month. There would be 396 parking stalls. The area
axound the buildings would be green and landscaped with hard maple and green
ash treea. There are also plans for a storm sewer retention pond which might
eliminate the need for a new storm sewer in the area.
They plan to use berms on 7th Street so that the people fn the single
family dwellings along the street will see only the second and third storiea
of the buildings. On the Mississippi S�ree� side ihe buildings will be 3 feet
lower than the street level and again the parking and first s�ory of the building
will not be visible from the street. A tremendous amount of grade work will be
necessary.
Chairmamm Erickson asked wfiat the proposed see backs were. They will be
177 feet on Mi�aissippi Str�et and 120 feet on 7th Streeto
A member of the audience asked Mr. Sokolowski where the parking would be
located. He answered that the parking areas will be along the streets.
^ There will also be a large parkin� area contain�d bettween the trao groupings
of the buildings. There will be no dead end parking and this is an advantage
to fire and police protection. There will be accesses at 2 locations on 5th
Street and 1 location on Mississippi Street. There a�re no acce�ses on 7th
Street or 63rd Avenue.
Chairman Erickson asked the height of the be�m on I�Lssissippi Street.
Mr. Richard Schraartz, the architect far the building, answered that the
parking on Missiasippi Street is lowered 3 feet, there is no beYming. The
berm areas are on 7th Street.
Mr. Lief Henrick�en, 495 Mississippi Ste, said that the lot on the
Northeast corner of 7th Street and Mississi_ppi Street had been turned down last
qear for a duplex. He thought that thi� had been a nice building and theae
apartments were just a big mess. He also aaked who would pay for the loss in
his property value if he decides to s�ll.
Mr. James Thayer, 377 - 66th Ave., asked the total cost of the complex
and was told it was between $2 and $3 million. That coffies out to approximately
$10,000 per unit and seen.e,i iike a prett� low cc�st considering all of the
underground work to be done. He wondered if this was really the type of
atructure that the City wanted.
Mr. Sokolowski anawered that their soil tes�s had shown that there would
not be much under�round correction work necessary.
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�� Mr. Robert McPherson, 500 Bennett Dr., said that the people in the area
don't appreciate the fact that their homes will be worth less. Also, that
storm sewers, new water lines, and new sanitary sewers will be needed and that
meana that they will be assessed for them. He feels the area should stay zoned
for aingle family dwellings.
Mr. Sokolowski replied that they had checked with the City and the sanitary
sewers and water lines are adequate for the development. He reminded Mr.
McPherson that they were planning on putting in a retention pond to avoid having
to increase the storm sewera.
Mr. Myhra stated that aome land owners to the South had complained of the
natural ponding on the Riedel property in the Spring. The water from this
area'forcea into their basements. He felt that the panding area proposed would
be too close to 63rd Avenue and would do damage to the homes.
Mr. Sokolowski replied that they could line the pond.
Mr. McPherson still had the floor and said that a pond means stagnant water
which would be dangerous to the children in the area. If the sewers and water
lines in the area were designed with single family zoning in mind how could
theq take the extra load from an apartment complex.
Darrel anewered that he thought the people should understand that the
storm sewer on Mississippi Street and the outf�ll to Rice Creek is too small
,�"� now, so, no matter what happens with the Riedel psoperty the pxoblem of new
storm sewers will still exist.
Mr. McPherson continued that the apartments mean more children and over-
` taxing of the schools. Besides, the people who live in apartments aren't
interested in the neighborhood.
Mr. Dean Habel, 392 - 66th Ave., stated that the people living on 66th
Avenue have been asked in the past to support street improvement projects, and
new water systems. They were also told that if the Riedel property was going
to be improved in any way there would have to be new storm sewers. Now Mr.
Sokolowski says that they don't have to have the new storm sewers, they will
pond inatead. If new storm sewers have to be put in to serve the Riedel
improvements, he feels Riedel should pay for it.
Darrel explained that with or without the project the City will not say new
storm sewers will not be necessary.
Chairman Erickson said the problem is this property will eventually
have to be developed in some way and that probably includes new stoam sewers and
drainage. If the people don't want apartments, what would they like to see
in there?
Mr. Leslie Coyle, 6271 - 6th St., said the people don't want apartments,
let the area stay zoned for single family dwellings.
n Chairman Erickson asked what they proposed to do with the water from aingle
family dwellings?
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� A member of the audience said it shouldn't be taken up hill to Rice Creek,
the City should use another way.
Mr. Myhra asked where the water that collects on the Riedel property comes
from?
Darrel explained that catch basins on 7th Street and 63rd Avenue and a
structure at 63rd Avenue and 6th Street discharge directly onto tlae Riedel
�ropertq. The water that is picked up by these facilities comes from the area
between 61st Avenue and 63rd Avenue. There are catch basins at Bennett Drive and
7th Street, however they are connected to a system that discharges into Rice Creek.
Mr. Dan Nelson, 6070 Central Ave., said if the storm sewers have to go in,
they would rather have them go in for single family dwellings.
Mr. James Stedman, 6241 - 6th St., asked if there were any advantages to
having the apartments rather than homea?
Mr. Sokolowski explained that according to the recent apartment study in
the City of Fridley, there is one child for every 4 apartment units but 1 1/2
children for each aingle family dwelling. There is room for 60 lots for single
family dwellings on the Riedel property. 7.'hat would mean 90 children as opposed
to 60 children in the apartment complex. Figuring an average of about $600
per home, single family dwellings would pay about $36,000 in taxes. Apartments
pay 4.5% of their value or over $100,000. The apartments can go in immediately.
n A7.1 the people have now is a vacant lot overrun with weeds and atagnant water.
Mr. William Sims, 6281 - Sth St., asked whq we allow people to rezone from
single family dwellings to R-3 for apartments. Don't we have enough property
in Fridley zoned for apartmenta?
Chaimnan Erickson explained that anyone can make application to h�ve a piece
of property rezoned.
Mr. Sims then asked if Mr. Riedel is asking to rezone the propertq with the
intent of then selling it or is he going to develop it himselfT
Chairman Ericksos answered that he thou�ht Mr. Riedel was selling the
property to the Wall Corporation.
Mr. Henricksen commented that when he lined behind Zayre's they had a
60 foot ditch which had to be drained. At first they tried to pump the water
up the hill and that didn't work so they tried to drain it dowa hill. This ended
up costing the people a fortu�e.
Mr. Arvil Miller, 525 Bennett Drive, stated that 14 years ago when he first
moved in, the area had all been zoned residential. They had a chance then to
se11 the property for homes but didn°t because they wanted more money. Why do
the people in the area have to keep putting up with the same piece of property
constantlq coming up for rezoning?
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Mr. Willi�m Hitchings, 6270 ° 6th St., commented that the people living in
this area have spent a fortune for assessments and the Riedel's have benefited
from it. The people will get no benefit from the apartments.
Chairm�n Erick�on asked if he was ob�ecting to the apartments or to the fact
that the Riedel's would be making ffioney?
Mr. Hitchings replied that he was ob�ecting to the apartments and to the
fact that Mr. Riedel would be making money off the people of the surrounding area.
Mr. Gilbertson, 510 Mississippi St., said that awhile ago there had been a
church proposed for t�is property and he wouldn't have objected to that,_but he
couldn't see apartments.
Chaisman Erickson asked Mr. Gilbertson what his basic ob�ectioa was to the
apartmentsa
Mac. Gilbertson replied that he
„ Aeights because he had wanted a nice
apartments here he will move �gain.
build them on open land.
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had moved out of an apartment in Columbia
home. If the City allows them to build
If they want to build apartments, they should
Mr. George Meissner, 373 Mississippi St.y sta�ed that or�iginally they had
been given the impression that there would be a bexm on Mississippi Street, then
Mr. Sokolowski had said this would be recessed. Which way was it going to be?
Mr. Sokolowski answered that this side would be recessed, but even without
a berm a hedge only t�o feet high would give tiae same effect.
Mr. Meissner continued that some of the hoffies oxx 1Kississippi Street were
built two or three feet above the street level and that a hedge wouldn't make
that much difference. He went on, that there would be a young age of people
moving into the apartments and in a few years they would produce more children.
His main objections were to the added sewer costs and assessments �nd if homes
wouldn°t make any difference then r�hy not dredge the pond they had now and turn
the whole piece of l�nd into � nice park?
Mr. Lazanski, 6320 Washington S�t., coffimeaated �that building apartments would
lower the value of the home owners lots in ye�rs to come.
Mr. Stedman, 6241 - 6th St., said that he had been selling real estate for
three years and knew that homes near apartments sell for less then prime area
homes and are also harder to sell,
Mr. McPherson said that there would be parking for 390 cars. In 240 units
there will be some 2 c�r families, children with cars, and they will be having
company with cars. This definitely creates a pYOblem.
Mr. Sokolowski replied that they did not think there would be any parking
problems. There are 396 blacktopped stalls and curb area which they don't think
they will have to use for parking. They don't feel any parking on the boundarq
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� Mr. Meissner, 373 Mississippi St., conmmented that people who live in apartments
are usuallq transient and h�ve less civic pride and inter�est in tk�e Citq.
Whenever qou have a higher concentration of population yc�ur incident� o£ vandalism
and police trouble go up.
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Mr. Tt►oanas Gilbertson, 5].0 Mississippi St., added that it was hard to get
out of the intersections around the area now, and 200 more cars will �ust
increase the problem.
Mr. Stedman asked if there were any more benefits from the apartments.
Mr. Wall of the Wall Corporation, which is building the complex, explained
th�t th�re would be a 50� increase in taxes from the apartments as opposed to
single family dwellings. The number of children would be reduced greatly and
the €ire and polic protection would be improved. He also co�ented that he
thought Mr. Sokolowski's estiffiate of between $2 and $3 million dollars was rather
low, they were figuring closer to $4 million. He �lso stated that it was not
his companies intention to attempt to hide the buildings only to soften them so
that they would fit into the community. He admitted that the storm sewer situation
is a problem but added that it was not Mr. Itiedel's problem, that the water comea
down from other areas. and they were usiag the retention pond to save both
themselves and the people money. He finished by reminding the people that single
family dwellinga in most cases don't pay their way in school taxes.
Mr. James Thaqer stated that since September, 168 children have moved into
or out of the Stevenson Elementary Schoole This area has numerous apartments.
This is only one of the schools problems.
A member of the audience asked how the statement could be made tha
don't paq their way. If this is true how has Fridley managed to grow?
Chairman Erickson explained that it is true that most single famil
do not pay their true share of school taxes, but are supported bq state
commercial, indu�try, and �partments.
Mr. Dean Aabel commented that the schools in the area will have to
the apartm+ents and apartments �re sometimes not rented to the type of p
expected. Instead of getting husband-wife family units qou sometimes g
divorced women or widows with two or three childreno This is what k�app
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Hayes Elementary School was built for a capacity of 700 children, th�re are
now 840 children in the school and they use the annex for kindergarten cl sses.
Even addiag only 60 more children from the apartments would put Aaqes ove
capacity. Parkview has the same problem. This means you will have to st rt
bussing children again and you can't just bus the apartment children, youphave
to bus according to grade level units. ;g
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Mr. Habel answered that they would have to go wherever- there was ro�m.
/"�1 Parkview now has 540 children instead of the 500 it was built for. He a ded that
you may end up building more schools with the extra tax moneq. 4
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Mr. Harold Ki.rkeeide, 6310 Washington St., asked if single familq
dwellings could economically be built on the Riedel property?
Mr. Sokolowaki stated that in the year and a half that he has been Mr.
Riedel's attorney and for at least a year before that they had had no offers
from private developers to build single family dwellings.
Mr. Lief Henricksen said that he had offered to buy the lots across the
street from his house and put in single familp dwellings to improve the
neighborhood.
Chairman Erickson asked if they built homes on the front lots along
Missisaippi Street and 7th Street would Mr. Henricksen object to the apartments
going in behind them?
Mr. Henricksen answered that he didn`t care what they put on the middle of
the property as long as there were houses around ite
Mr. Rirkeeide commented that this property has been a slough hole since
1958, and the land will have to be developed sometime. He didn't want to see
apartmeats go in but if it was a choice between apartments and commercial, he
would rather have the apartments.
Mr. Wayne Saunders, 500 - 63rd Ave., stated that whether apartments or
single family dwellings were put in this area it seemed they were going to have
trouble with the schools, so how could they go about having a park put in the area?
Chairman Ericksoa answered that the people would have to send a petitioa
to the City Council asking for the park..
Mr. Fitzpatxick added that part of the property had been proposed for a
park at one time under the Urban Renewai Pxogram and there had also been a bond
isaue for parks. Both proposals taad been rejected. If the people wanted a park,
they would have to petition.
A member of the audience cannnen�ed that he thought Fridley had an abundence
of apartments now and he was opposed to them anywhere in the City except where
the land was'already zoned for them.
Chairman Erickson said that 60% of the units being built in the nation
were apartments. Where were people supposed to live?
Mr. McPherson sta�ed that the Planning Co�ission has been established to
serve the people as they wish to be served and he thought that we had enough
open areas for apartments.
Mr. Thayer asked if the Apartment Survey would be made puia,lic?
. Chairman Erickaon anawer�d that i:: was up to the City Council. The Planning
Commiasion had requested it be made public but any reference to apecific propertq
be withheld.
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Mr. Thayer then asked how many permits for building multiple and
single family dwellinga had been approved in Fridley in 1969?
Chairman Erickson said that there had been permits for about 400 - 500
multiple units and under fifty for homes. �
Mr. Thayer asked how much land zoned R-3 was left in Fridley?
Chairman Eridcson answered that there was room for onlq about 150•- 200
units left in Fridley, .
Mr. Jensen added that there was less then 20 acres of land in the City left.
Chairman Erickson then added that the Planning Commission had been living
with a plan developed in 1955 called the Shaddock Plan. It was not what you'd
call a good plan. He then asked for a show of hands of people in the audience
opposed to the apartments. The vote was unan3mous.
There is only one sizable parcel of land lef t for single family dwellings
and that is down across from Innsbruck. There are only about 10 acres of land
left for resideatial development.
Mr. Stedman asked for more 3nformation on the apartments including where
the people would be coming from who lived in the apartments.
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stated that if we want industry in Fridley we will have to have
Citq for the people to live. They won't buy houses. The ratio
in apartments in Fridley is about 1/2 of 1%. This complex ie
Semi-Deluxe Complex. It will have two swimming pools, saunas and
children. The grounds will be verq well kept and there will be
Mr. Stedman stated that the land will eventuallq have to be used. Unless
the price ia reduced they won't build hoffies. He would rather see apartments
then have it zoned commerci�l.
A member of the audience asked if there wasn't an ordinance requiring a
buffer zone between apartments and residential areas of duplexes?
Darrel explained that the only buffer zone requirements are of distance
between Commercial and Industrial Areas and Single Family Dwelling Areas.
Mr. Stedman asked if this request was turned down, how soon could theq expect
to be back.
Chairman Erickaon told him that it would take at least 6 montha to get
another rezoning petition before the Planning Coamnission.
A member of the audience asked if there were ordinances that could be
used to make the people keep the area up. He was told that there were ordinances.
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� Mr. James Bates, 6211 - 6th St., co�ented that he thought that the
letters announcing the Public Hearing should go to more people.
Chairman Erickson explained that the Ordinance is very specific, the letter
goes to property owners within 300 feet of the rezoning.
MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Fitzpatrick, to close the Public Hearing
for the rezoning request: ZOA 4�70-01, Norman E. Riedel. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Jensen commented that the Commission was short two members and there
had been a great deal of comment on the rezoning. '
MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Fitzpatrick to consider the rezoning request:
ZOA 4�70-01, Norman E. Riedel, at the next regular meeting, Februarq 18, 1970.
Ugon a voice.eote, �11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
4. VACATION REQUEST (SA�L 4�70-Oi�,.BY CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS TO VACATE TBAT
PART OF MARSHALL STREET AND 43RD AVENUE THAT LIE INSIDE WATER WORRS
PitnPERTY.
Mr. Bruce Corlett, Water Works Director, and Mr. Jim Hqak, Assistant
Water Works Director, gave an exg�lanation of the area to the Plannin�g Commission.
A discussion followed.
�,_ Chairm�x► Erickson asked if there were any City utilities located on the
property?
Darrel explained there were not and added that the Southerlq portion of the
propertq ad�oins the NSSSD property.
Chairman Erickson asked if NSSSD had been aotified of the request?
Mr. Jensen explaiaed that they h�d been notified and NSSSD has a vacation
request �ahich h�� been objected to by the City of Minneapolis.
Darrel co�nented that the NSSSD vacatioa had been objected to because the
Minneapolis Water Works and iiarris property used Marshall Street for access.
The Harris property is now being purchased by the NSSSD. Darrel also iaformed
the Com�nisaion that the Plats 6 Subdivisions-Streets and Utilities Subco�i.ttee
had recommended approval of this vacation with stipulations.
MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the Planning Commission
reco�nend to the Citq Council that the part of SAV �`70-01 relatin� to roads
lqing North of Berlin Addition be granted subject to an agreement being reached
between the City of Minneapolis �ad t�e vity o� Fridley, that provides for, upon
request, a 25 foot road easement along the North side of Lot 36, Aud. Sub. �39,
such road essement'to be null and void at such time as the City of Minneapolis
acquires all interior property in Berlin Addition. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, the motion carried unanimously.
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PLANNING CO�SSION MEETING - FEBRUARY 4, 1970 ���e �2
IMDTION by Jensen, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the Planning Co�Lssion
reco�mnend to the City Council that the part of SAV 4170-01 relating to roads lying
South of Berlin Addition be granted sub�ect to the understanding that the
Marshall Street vacation South of Berlin Addition be tied to the NSSSD request
for the Marshall Street vacation below 39th Avenue. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, the mo�ion carried unanimously.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION STRUCTURE CHART
Mr. Fitzpatrick asked if the Council members who had seen the chart
agree with it.
Larrel said that they did but questioned if it should be tied to Wards.
HE also commented that one of the bad pointa of �he present system is that a
measber at large can be Vice-Chairman of one Committee and Chairman of another.
Chairman Erickson suggested that a large chart be made for the office
so that everyone could see the configuration of the present Planning Co�ission
and the terms of office.
ADJOURNMENT :
MOTION by Jensen, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the Planning Co�issfon
�_ meeting of February 4, 1970 be adjourned at 11:00 P.M. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted
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Nikki Finck
Acting Recording Secretary