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A G E N D A
COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 20, 1971
CALL TO ORDER:
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RClLL CALL :
�,PPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: DECEMBER 9. 1970
RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES: DECEMBER 15, 1970
RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CC3?ZTR�L MINUTES: DECEMBER 17, 1970
8:00 P.M.
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l. PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING REOUEST: ZOA ��70-07, R.ICI�.AND, INC.,
R.C. ERNST: South 395 feet of Lot 1, Lots 2 and 3, Lot 4, except
that part of the West 132 feet lying South of the North 328.9 feet,
Lots 5 and 6 except the South 230 feet tfiereof, Auditor's Subdivi-
sion No. 22.
2. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. ��71-01, CHARLES R.. LA BEAUX: Split off
the S� of the E� of Lot 34, Auditor�s Subdivision 4692.
10-13
14-15
16-24
25-27
3. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. ��71-02, THOM.A_S R. SWANSON: Lots 3, 4 28-30
and 5 City View Addition. To make two 60 foot lots fram three
40 foot lots.
4. CONFIRM PUBLIC HEARING DA.TE: Request for Special Use Fermit, 31.-32
SP ��71-Oi by Albert M. Johnson to permit construction of a double
bungalow in an R-1 District as per Fridley City Code, Section
45.051, Paragraph 3, Subsection D, to be located on Lot 7,
Block 1, A1 Rose Addition.
Public Hearin� Date: Februarv 34 i271,.
S. CONFIRM PUBLIC HEARZNG DATE: REZONINE REOL'EST, ZQA ��71-01 BY 33-36
WYMAN Sr11TH FOR VIKING (;HEVRQLET, INC.: Rezone from M-2 (heavy
industrial) to C-2 (ger.eral business areas) a parcel 600 feet in
�depth along the centerline of proposed 83rd Ave. from R/T�' ?ine
of University and 1,675 feet North €rom centerline of proposed.
83rd Avenue. �
Public Hearin� Date: Februar�3. 197�.
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PLANNING CO1�lISSION MEETING DECEI�ER 9, �970
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The meeting was called to order at 8:15 E'.A�f. by Vice Chairman Fitzpatrick.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Minish, Harris, Fitzpatrick, Schmedeke
Erickson
Darrel Clark, Engineering Assistant
APPROVE PLANNING CO�AiISSI�N MINU°�ES: NOVE?�ER 4, 1�70
MOTION by Schmedeke� seconded By Minish� t1a.�t t.�e PZanning Coir¢n.ission
minutes of November 18g .�97� be a�g*oiT�d. U�o.�a a vo�.ce vote, a1I voting aye,
the motion carried unan.zmousZz�.
RECEIVE PARKS & REC�EATI01� COMMISSION MINVi`ES : NOVE�iB�R. 23 1970
.MOTIOI�I by Minish, seconded by Schmedeke, �hat the p.Zanning Cormnission
receive the minutes of the Parks & Recreation Comrru:ssion of November 23, 1970.
�, Upon s voice vote. aIZ voting aye, t�he motion carried unanimously.
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RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARI)S-DESIGN C70NTROL MINUTES: DECEMBER 3 1970
MOTION by Schmedeke, secoi�ded by Minisi�, that the PZanning Co�rcnission
recei ve the minutes of the Building Standards-Design Control meeting of
December 3, 1970. Upon a voace vo�e, ali vot�ng aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
1. PIJSLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR REZONING; ZOA #70-06, SID BADER: Lot 4,
Auditor's Subdivision 108, rezone from R-1 to R-3 the South 2/3rda.
The Public Hearing Notice was read by Acting Chairman Fitzpatrick.
The petitioner, Mr. Sid Bader, explained that they were hoping to con-
struct a 22 to 24 unit apartment building if granted the rezoning. They
have juet finished building an apartment at 1441 73rd Avenue Northeast, and
feel it is a desirable building. They will build a well constructed apartment
which �ill be an asset to the community.
The public hearing was opened to the audience.
Mr. and Mrs. Drumm, residing at 1641 73rd Avenue which is the home
adjacent to and East of the lot being �onsidered for rezoning stated
that his home was of average value with recent r�odeling costing him about
$5,000.00. He stated that he was in sales and that it was not unc�mon for
him to be transfered on fairly short notice vhich would make it necessary
to sell his home with a ahorter,other than normal�amount of time to diepose
of it. He felt that if this property was rezoned, it would hinder his ability
to sell his home.
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^ Mr. Dru�m had the following comments and questions; First, he wondered
if anyone could tell him when this construction would commence and when it
was completed, where would it be located with reference to his West line. He
questioned the location of outside facilities such as garbage cans, parking lot
and driveway. He also wondered if there was any control over the number and
ages of the children in the families renting in the proposed building.
Mr. Bader stated that he could not answer all of Mr. Drumm's questions
because they have not gone into much detail on the plan for a building on this
area yet. However, he would offer the following data: He would estimate that
it would take them about 30 days from the date of rezoning approval. The draw-
ing that was submitted with his petition shows the building 15 feet from your
West line with the driveway along the West side of the lot leading to a parking
lot to be located North of the proposed building.
Mr. Bader went on �o sia�e tliat a11 the uniLS would be two bedroom and
they had not thougtit �f any restrictio�zs on the size of a f�mily wanting to
live there. He would estimate, however, that the average age of the children
in their building at 1441 was about 14 year�.
Mrs. Dru�n commented that most people �vi11 not buy nex� door to an apart-
ment. Mr. Bader answered that when single fami:Liy �.�ts are close to lots zoned
R-3, there is the possi.bi�i_i=y that the ir:�fec��.�*� �::�+� � a�,�� b� �onsidered for
apartments and it would make tha.t pro��rf:y `�ro.r�r'� :�^�,.-e
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Mr. Dru� felt that their ho�e was too valua�le to affset the increased
value if it were reaoned to R-3 therefore he felt hir� property would more than
likely remain R-1 and would feel much barter if t�e prc�o�ed structure were
smaller, say a fourplex.
Mr. Robert S. Bigelow, 6322 Bass Lak.e �oad, Minneapolis: He stated that
in all his real estate experience, he would have t�, say he *,�ould have as much,
or better, chance of selling Mr. Drumm's home witt� the type of building Mr. Bader
is constructing as opposed to the kind of hou�e that is there naw.
Mrs. Dr� stated they bought their house in that area for privacy and
there were just ten children in the block, but now the number would increase.
• Mr. Drumm felt the height o£ the building would affect the amount of light
his house would receive.
Tom Marxen, 1620 Onondaga Street (Lot 5): He explained his property was
adjacent and lies East and North of the property under discussion. The pro-
posed road in the center of his property has been dedicated and he has built
one home on the front lot, and he intended to build another one on Onondaga.
He has put in a lot of time and money so far, and felt that something had to
be resolved regarding the zoning and the dedicated street.
Vice Chairman Fitzpatrick believed the subject of the roadway ought to be
taken up at this time. Originally the proposed plan was for an East/West
street midway between Onondaga Street and 73rd Avenue in order to serve the
� interior part of the block.
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^ The Engineering Assistant gave the following brief history for the area:
In 196� the Planning Commission and City Council adopted a street plan for the
are� of Fri��e� N���h �f 73rd A�enue and East of Central Avenue. In this so-
ca�led s�p�r bl���� �e�n� b�und�d by Hayes Street on the West,on the E��� ��
5tin�on �oulevard, on the North by Onondaga Street and on the South �y ��rd Avenue,
the plan indicated the need f�r an additional street to run East and We�t and to
be located half way between 73rd and Onondaga. There was also a couple of legs
off from this street out to either Onondaga or 73rd Avenue. However, at the time
this plan was adopted, the entire block was zoned R-1.
In 1963 Council approved some rezoning to R-3 in the Wes� half alon� 73rd
Avenue in this $uper block thereby reducing the need for street access to the
rear of the 300 foot depth lots along 73rd Avenue that are zoned R-3. Haaever,
there still is a need for street access to the rear of the long lots facing Onon-
daga.
The area West of Z�t,ta�?�i property i�.�s bee:� pr�tty well r�solved by the
Council �pp�coval of thc� G�or�� �T�1son land us� lg�,iw �fonc;ay night. The two parcels
lying East of the Zywicki propwrty havr� pr�vi��'s?.y '�;-��n split or platted with the
dedications of right af ��.y *�c� ��eet F,he plan r�� t:��.� aaiditian of a street mid-
block between 73rd and O:iondag�.
This then makes it nearly mandatory that we extend. the dedication through
the Zywicki property of which we are considering tonight.
Acting Chairmaa. Fitzpatrick asked if Darrel would explain the George Nelson
� development a little more in detail.
It was then explained that Mr. Nelson wr�s to dedicate a 35 foot street
easement along the West edge of Lot 30 from Onondaga South to midway between
Onondaga and 73rd to provide for an outlet if the East/West streets were to be
dedicated from Lot 30 to the Westo He was not required to dedicate right of way
for the East/Weat street through lots 30 or 31 because he plans to leave the area
North of the R-3 property (being the South half o.f Lats 30 and 31) open and to be
used for recreation area for the building to be constructed along 73rd Avenue.
Mr. Nelson will be platting six lots along Onondaga for single family houses. It
was also explained that Mr. Nelson was given approval to increase the number of
units allowed on the R-3 portion by the number of sinsle family dwellings that
could have been built on the R-1 vacant property adjacent to the R-3.
It was also pointed out that if a street were put in between land zoned
R-1 and R-3 with the R-3 property having already been served by a street and
sewer and water on the opposite end,that more than likely all the cost of the
sewer and water would have to be born by the R-1 property and 75% of the cost df
the street to be paid by the R-1 property. If this method were used to assess 4�he
improvements, it would put the cost so high that it could make it uneconomical
to have the street put in at all.
Mr. Drumm asked if the proposed rezoning would affect his taxes - would
they increase or decrease?
^ Darrel Clark answered that as far as the valuation of the property is
concerned, he would think it would stay the same because it is R-1 property.
Mr. Drumm wondered, with the land already zoned for apartments in that
area, and which is for sale having a larger area than what is naw being rezoned,
why they need this land.
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Vice Chairman Fitzpatrick e�plaiaed that the request for the rezoning was
� by Mr. Zywicki, the owner of the land, arad he had asked Mr. Bader to develop it
for him. The petitioner has the right to petition for rezoning of his own property.
He then asked Darrel Clark how much R-3 land is available in that area.
D�rrel Clark explained �hat about �0` �f the area zoned R-3 had R-3 develop-
ment on it naa with the assumption that George Nelson is building on his property,
it would bring the developed R-3 property to about 40y.
Mr. Harris asked Mr. Marxen if he were planning on splitting his lot.
Mr. Marxen replied that he platted the area because he did not know the kind of
hames he could build because of the frontage. If his land remained R-1, he would
need a street access, otherwise if there should be a pcssibility that the area
would all be developed R-3, the street access could be removed.
It was also explained that the outlet for the East/West street would make
it necessary for additioasl right of way along the East edge of Lot 32 naw owned
by E. H. Stein. It was noted that a letter from E. H. Stein, owner of Lot 32,
did not object to the resoning. Mr. Harris then wondered if it might be necessary
to acquire another 30 fset of right away from Lot 32 to provide access to the East
lots. National Funds, former owners of Lot 32, platted the land including the
30 foot dedication, but never filed the plat.
Mr. Bigelow said he still didn't see how this access was affected by the
petition. It was explained that, assuming this East/West street were improved
right now with the area on both sides zoned R-1, the, improvement cost would
� probably be borne equally on either side of the new street. Now assume Zywicki
property were zoned R-3 and developed prior to the new street being improeed., then
you see the North side or R-1 property would pay nearly all the improvement cost
and the area on the South side of the new street very little because they already
have been served by 73rd Avenue.
Mr. Marxen said in answer to Mr. Bigelow's question that he could not, at
this time, decide whether he would want his land zoned R-3 without access or �r,�
wheth��t:�t$ could possibly accept the additional improvement cost for the new street
if the aywick���parcel were rezoned to R-3. His main concern would be how could he
develop his land with some profit to him and best fit the area as far as use was
concerned.
Mr. Harris c�mented that the depth of the North one third of Lot 4�s 200
feet, the parcel remaining would be 101 feet deep. If a street were put thr ugh,
that would leave Mr. Zywicki with a lot North of the street less than 100 feat in
depth. In order to make that into buildable lots, he would almost have to p�rchase
some of the lot that faces Onondaga. It will take cooperation of the people in
the block to make the plan work. The Engineering Assistant said that the ar�a
awned by Mr. Zwicki North of the area being rezoned would be about 75 feet North
and South by 175 feet East and West along the proposed street.
A comment was made that the houses in this area are, for the most part,
very nice homes.
MOTION by Minish, seconded by Harris, that the Planning Commission close
� the publi c hearing of the rezoning request, ZOA #70-06, Sid Bader, to rezone from
R-1 to R-3 the South 2/3rds of Lot 4, Auditor's Subdivision #108. Upon a voice
vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
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^ Mr. Minish said that this rezoning request is another one of ����e ��ouble-
some situations -- single family and multiple in t�� ���� ���ao �� t�i� point,
where Lakeside, if extended, would co�� �hro��h, wou�� ma�k t�e E��te�ly boundary
of the multiple. The rest is sin�le family. It seems that a natural break would
be the extension of Lakeside to keep it as a buffer.
Mr. Schmedeke asked �hat if the proposed road were to go thr�ugh, in
of obje��ions of so�e �f the peoplefl wou�d the pr�����ge be �o ������ ��� 1���
needed to complete the �rea. It w�s �t��ed gha� �� ��a��e en�u�� pe�cen�age �f the
owners wanted it, the few undedicated parcels would prob�bly be t��e� by co�demnation.
Mr. Harris said he was i�p�ess�d by the presentation this evening as the
petitioner had done a lot of ground work, such as getting signatures from most of
the people in the block. He was certain that in some way, if the petition were
granted, Mr. Drumm's pxoperty could be pxotected by berms, landscaping, etc. But
before he could vote for any rezonin� on Lot 4, the petitioner would have to agree
to dedicate the 50 foot right of way for the rest of �ti+e oth�r street. The South
half of Lot 32 i� R-3 a� well as �11 the lots to the West. With Mra Nelson's
pro�ect gain� ahe�d �xad �ne other a����ffient �uilding in the area, that as time goes
on, he was certain the rest of R-� pr�pe�tq w�ll b� developed. Perh�ps Lot 4 is a
�ood place to stog, with Mr. Marxen developing his pr�perty R-1. If the rezoning
request were �san��dm in order to protect Mr. Drtimmm, the Planning Commission would
recommend the dedication of the street, adequate screening between R-1 and R-3
with trees, berms, etc. Mr. Schmedeke said he also f�lt that R-3 should stop with
Lot 4.
r-� Mr. Marxen stated he would prefer a proper buffer on ttae North end of the
R-3 property.
In the ca�e �f l�i�� I����,�a��� �h� �;n��neexia�� As����a�� sa�d i� was stipu-
lated there would be no access to the North.
Mr. Schmedeke asked what the effect would be on the number of units in the
apartment if the street in the middle of the block would be dedicated. The Engineer-
ing Assistant answered that by taking the right of way, the petitioner would lose about
5,000 square feet which would amount to the loss of about 2 units. Sometimes a
street dedication is allowed in figuring the density of an area.
MbTION by Schmedeke, seconded by Harris, that the Planning Commission recom-
mend approval of the rezoning request, ZOA #70-06, Sid Bader to rezone the South
Half of Lot 4, Auditor's Subdivision #108, from R-1 to R-3 District with the stipu-
lation that Mr. Zywicki continue the necessary dedications to connect a right of
way up with the already dedicated portion to the East, the access to this new
street be controlled or limited, the new R-3 area be properly and adequately
screened adjacent to the R-1 properties. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, except
Minish, voting nay, the motion carried.
2. PUBLIC HEARING• REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT: SP �70-12, ALVIN A. NITSCHKE:
Outlot 1, Rice Creek Plaza South, Lot 32, Block 4, Lowell Addition to Fridley
Park together with the vacated street between before mentioned parcels.
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The Notice of Hearing was read by Vice Chairman Fitzpatric .
Mr. and Mrs. Nitschke were present.
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The Engineering Assistant explained that this r�q��st involved some land
trading. The drawing he handed out was a d�a�r� o� ��� ag�� �nd showed the lots
owned by the City for park. Outlot 1 is owned by ��� ��ty and is 26 f�e:'. �fde,
Mr. Nitschke signed an agreement wherein he stated that if the City would deed
him Outlot 1, he would deed to the City of Fridley 12.7 feet of Lot 31, and the
South 2.7 feet o� Lot 32 of Block 4, Lo�aell Addition �o rridley Park. His request
for a Special Use Permit is contingent upon a land trade.
Mr. Nitschke said that he talked with Mr. Hermann, City Assessor, and was
told the Council wanted him to make an offer for the land. He made an offer of
$250.00 for additional land.
l�TION by Aarris, seconded by Schmedeke, that the Public Hearing be closed
for the the request of a Special Use Permit, SP#70-12 by A1vin �. Nitschke to
construct a tr�o family dwelling in an R-1 L'kistriet irxvolving OutZot l, Rice Creek
P1aaa Svuth, Lat 3?, �Z�c �, Lt�.t2 ��ltdlt� �i F��ia�ley Park together with the
t�cated street bet�ee� �.�o� �L�d p�e.�- ilpon � voice vote, a11 vating
aye, the �tion carried �tse��at�1�, .
Mr. Schmedeke cam�e�d t�at across th� street from the proposed two
family dwelling fs M-1 ]�.strict, t�e �.�ad b�r� u� to R-]. and to the North there
is the possibility of anotl�,er dup�ex befng built. Darrel Clark added that Lot 10
is vacant, Lot 11 is occut�ied bp � tw4 fa�ily cl�ellin�.
Mr. Schmedeke added t��t after having seen the ar�ay he had no objections
r.� for the duplex being built inaamueh as there is another one in the same block,
and finally, there were nv people here tonight from the neighborhood to object.
Mr. Mini�h commented that several �ears ago, when a similar request was
brought up before his Comnaittee concerning tt►is area, the place was packed. Now
he is surprised at the lack of interest.
As Chairman of the Parks and Recreation Commission, Mr. Fitzpatrick said
he would like to mention for discua�ion a possible stipulation for some kind
of fence along the South side of Nitschke �;ot, ab.:quite often people build next
to parks and then complain of the results such as children running through the
yard, chasing balls, etc.
The City, in the past, had made overtures to purchase qutlot 1, fiut
the price was too high. Vice Chairman Fitzpatrick said the Parks felt the price
was greater than the uae the park would get for the additional park property.
The Eng�ieering Assistant explained the reason for the change in the
zoning ordinance�that at R-2, a two family dwelling could be built, and in order
to control the type of construction, a Special Use Permit category was added to
the Code. With a Special Use Permit, the builder has to get approval of the
Building Standards-Design Control Subcommittee for exteriors, elevations, etc.
This gives the City better control over the architectural design. R-2 zoning
had no such restrictions.
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1�10TION by Schmedekeo seconded by Minish, that the PZanning Commission
recorrm�end approval of the Special Use Permit, SP #70-12, by A1vin A. lliitschke
to construct a tr,�o family dwellinq zn an R-1 IDis�trict, S�c��c�� �3.19 (2A)
Fridley City Code, involving Outlot 1, 12yce �reek Plaza South, Lot 32,
B1ock 4, Lowe11 Addi tion to Fridley Park together with the vacated street
between before mentioned parcels, subject to Council and City decisions on
land transfer as outlined in a statement dated October 27, 1970 signed by
A1vin A. Nitschke, that there wi1l be saee type of fence or buffer on the
South side of the property, and that the Building Standards-Design Control
Svbc+ommittee approve the building plans prior to submission to the CounciZ,
and finally that Mr. Nitschke bring his plans before the Building Standards-
Design Control Subcommittee before the Special Use Permit is granted by
Council and in that way Council would receive the complete package. Upon a
voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried vnanimousZy.
Mr. I4itsc�rTte said he fel.t he did not want the fence, and. that tE none of
the property o�mers abutting a park paid for theix fences, he would rather
not have that stipulation in the motion. If t�.e wantad the fence, and if the
property would be a nuisance in that respec�, he would put it up.
Vice Chairnian Fitzpatrick said thac. qu�t� aften the City gets it in
reverse. The neighbors ask the Park Departff�en� to put up the fence. Usually
if one needs a f�nce, he calls the City and expects the City to put it up.
The people around this park have not put up a f�nce, but we are considering a
� .special use permit this evening. He Wouldn't aaic Mr. Nitschke to put up a fence
he would never need.
Mr. Schmedeke told Mr. Nitschke he felt that if the Chairman of the
Parks and Recreation Co�ission believes the fence to be necessary and prac-
tical but not to unnecessarily to burden you -- some day you may be more
than happy with it.
Mr. Nitschke said he plans to live in the proposed building, and
being that he was going to live there, it would probably have a contemporary
type of architecture and have a mansard roof. The architect that he is
planning to use is in New York at this time and-he could not give a date
this evening for the presentation of the plans.
3. CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT BY N.C.R.
CORPORATION: Lots 3 and 4, Block 2, Hayes River Lots (5950 Anna
Avenue )
Mr. Harris said this request came to the Building Standards-Design
Control Subcommittee for concept approval. Then the request went directly
from Building Standards-Design Control Subcommittee to Council without coming
to the Planning Commission. It was in the Building Standards minutes which
went to Council, and they got involved in the townhouse concept, before the
request was received by the Planning Commission. The recommendation of the
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` Planning Commission, then the Planning Commission malce their recomnnendatiox�
to the Gouncil.
Darrel �l�riz ��id �he �eque�t was han��d �o kni� �nc� he w�s told to put
it on the ���nda�,
Mr. Harris felt the proper �ction would be that when the minutes are
presented to Council, their action would be only to receive them. If the
Ordinance requires the Planning Commission reco�nmendation prior to Council
appxoval, this procedure should be followed.
Accordin� to the Code9 Darrel Clark said, the procedure is.that t�e
preliminary plan cames before the Plaxaning Com�ssion ax�d ���� �� �������
and Council approves or accepts with variances and tthen th� getitio�a�g ffi�$� �
draw up final plane fo`r ag�raval and the requ�t goes' bmck to Planning
Com�ission and Council. Building Standar�s-Desfg�n Contral Subcommittee see
the preliminary plans £irst.
Mr. Harris said that all the Subco3maittee saw was �aa��id�� e1e�a��r��a�� of
the buildings and where parking lots are going tc� be• The sa$ae drawi��s
were given tiae Plaianing Commission this eveni�g.
The petitioners went before th8 Board af Appeals for high rise apart-
ments and got approval. When they consulted the bank, they were told it was
� not feasible or economical and then they came back with the to�rnhouse concept.
Council said they liked the idea.
MOTION by Minish, seconded by Harris, that the Planning° Ca�ssion
table consideration of a preliminary plan for Tows�house Developme�at by N.C.R.
Corporation to be constructed on Lots 3 and 4, Block 2, Hayes River Lots,
until the final plan is filed with the Building Inspection Departmente
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Minish, seconded by Harris, that the Planning Comrnission
recommend to Council t1�at the City Attorney be instructed to Peview Secs�ion
45.14 Townhouse Development and that the proposed amendment for Item 2 under
Section 45.141 include a provision for review of the final plans by the
Building Standards-Design Control Subcommittee prior to submission to the
Planning Commission, and to have four subdivisions as Item 1 has. Upon a
voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Vice Chairman Fitzpatrick said he auspected, because the 4th subdivision
had been omitted, and that there seems to be an error in Item 2 C, somett�ing
has been deleted by accident. .
4. RE UEST FOR VACATION OF A PORTION OF A UTILITY EASEMENT BY JERRY
ABRAMSHL'K. 3AV �70-05: To vacate the Northerly 7 feet of the Southerly
15 feet of Lot 1, Block 5, Rice Creek Plaza South.
^ Mr. Abramshuk was present.
It was explained by Darrel Clark that, at the rear of Lot 1, Block 5,
Rice Creek Plaza, there is an existing 15 foot utility easement, and adjacent
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�� is a ten foot easment off Holiday Shopping Center parcel making a total of
25 feet. The previous owner o€ Lot 1 bui�t a garage fiv� or six years ago
on the rear part of tYae lot and, without kna�ai�g� enc�°oach�d some 6 feet on
the easement. l�ir> Abra�shciflc wants t� add to the �ar�sge fo� storage purposes
aa�d had heard he did not nAed a permit. When a build�.ng in�p�c�or dxove by,
he noticed ithe construction and stopped it. t�e�a a cegti��c�te of survey
was brought in, it showed encroachment of the existing garage into 15 feet
of the easement. The City contacted Northern States Power and Northwestern
Bell Telephone to get their opinion of the petition for vacation of the
Northerly 8 feet. Both responded in this that�they have no objection, and
the City has no objection because we have no utilities in the area.
Mr. Abramshuk was very apologetic to the City for not follawing the
proper procedure. The total easement is 25 feet which would still leave 17
feet after vacation. The lot next door has a 15 foot easement also.
Mr. Schmedeke noticed that the ferrce is rigi�t on the lot line and that
he felt the request should be approved,
MOTION by Schmedeke, seconded by Minish, that the Planning Commission
recammend approval of the vacation request, SAV #70-05, by Jaroslaw Abram-
shuk, of the Northerly 7 feet of the Southerly 15 feet of Lot .I, BZock 5,
Rice Creek P1aza South. Upon a voice vote, aZl voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously.
^ Darrel Clark added that the Administration has allowed Mr. Abramshuk
to continue his construction without a permit because one half of the struc-
ture is up and because of winter, it would be a hardship not to finish it.
5. CONSIDER DATE OF SECOND MEETING OF THE PLANNIN� COMMISSION IN DEC�ER:
December 23, 1970.
The Commission agreed not to meet on December 23, 1970, but if requests
came in that were urgent and could not wait until January 6, 1971, the next
regular meeting, the members would be polled.
ADJOIIRNMENT :
There being no further business, Vice Chairman Fitzpatrick adjourned
the meeting at 11:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted
Hazel 0'Brian
Recording Secretary
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THE MINUTES OF TfiE BOARD OF APPEAI.S MEETING OF DECII�ER 15 1970
� The meeting was c�lleci to order by Chairman Minish �t 7035 P.M.
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1�1BERS PI�3�t �ini�ha Ahdnen, Drigans, Sondheimer
r�IBERS ABSENT : 0' Bannon
0"Ti�RS PRESENT: A1 Bagatad-Building Official
MOTION by Ahonen to approve the minutes of the November 10, 1970 meeting as
writteno
Seconded by Sondheimer. Upon a voice vot�, there being no nays, the motion
carried unanimously.
Chsizman Minish reported to the Board the action taken by the Council on the
Noveueber 10, 1970 Board items.
SERVICE AREA FROrI �0 SQi7�� F��T � 252 SQU�IRE F'EET �0 ALLOW THL EXISTING SIGN
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5201 CENTRAL_AVENUE N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA (SPEEDY CAR �TASH)
S1'[TT�T J o?�I�I,,S�'R(�M, 711 ROUND HILL ROAD, ST. PAUL MIIdNESOTA. )
Mr. William Rosen, Attorney for Speedy Car Wash, preaented the request. He
explained the car wash was one of the early �iuildings in this area and at that
time they had an agreement with the landowner, Mr. Mortenson, to put up a sign
� at the corner of Central and 52nd Avenue. "The agreement stated the sign could
remain at that location until such time as the landawner wanted to use the
land for some other purpose. �h'he landowner has now sold this piece of property
to 1�vin City Federal and our sign has been taken dawn.
Mr. Rosen stated furthex that they are asking to put the same sign back up
again approximately 175 feet North of where the sign was located. This will
still be on Mr. Mortenson's property. There will be some repair work done
on the si�a� as it wa� dainaged when it was taken down.
Chaixman Minish asked Mr. B�g�tad if the Building Inspection Department had
any co�ents on this request.
Mr. Bagetad answered the Skywood Mall Shopping Center has an area identification
sign already and according to the Code is only allawed one. There are extra
signs on this property which Mr. Mortenson is awsre of and also this property
needs some maintenance work completed.
Mr. Rosen stated the car wash did have three small A-frame "open" signs which
they will be removing. He had talked with the City Attorney who had talked to
the City Engineer who infoxtned him the City Engineering Department had no
objections to the pylon sign if the small signs were removed.
Mr. Gordon Bloom with the Property Management Department of Ztain City Federal
showed the Board haw they are planning to develop the corner property. He
� stated he was at the meeting to infaxm the Board of this and not to object to
the sign. He added that �tain City Federal will be erecting a sign at the
approxima.te location of the old car wash sign.
The Board of Apaeals Minutes of December 15 1970 pa�e 2
'� Mr. George Boyd, from Robert Hall, was concerned with the car wash erecting
a larger sign than what they had up but he had no objections to them
putting up the same sign.
Drigans asked Mr. Bagstad why a variance was needed when the sign has
already been in existence and is just being relocated?
Mr. Bagstad answered our present code covering signs was not in effect
at the time the sign w�e first erected and now since the sign is over
the minimum sign size requirement as stipulated in the code, the variance
is necessary to re-erect the sign.
MOTION by Sondheimer to close the public hearing.
Seconded by Ahonen. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion
carried.
MOTION by Sondhei�►ex to reconomend to the City Council approval of the
request to relocate the sign approxim�ately 175 feet North of the old
location but in the saa�e relative position with the following stfpulations:
1. Said sign to have an area not exceeding 252 square feet.
2. All extra signs to tie taken down and the original sign be erected in
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the original fashion.
3. The Building Inspection �Department be allowed to add their stipulations
to the Sign PeYmit.
MOTION dies for lack of a second.
Drigans stated he felt the hardship is that the sign had been erected and
in existence for some time. He felt the Board had no control over where
the sign is to be located as long as it is within the confines of the
owner's property. He said all the Board had the right to do was to act on
the variance of sign area as that is all the applicant is asking for.
Sondheimer said he would rephrase the motion to omit the area where the
sign was to be located.
MOTION by Sondheimer to recou�►end to the City Council approval of the
request to erect a sign, said sign having an area of 252 square feet, with
the following stipulations:
1. All extra signs be taken down and the original sign be erected in the
origina.l fashion.
2. The Building Inspection Department be allowed to add their stipulations
to the Sign Permit.
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� Drigans added the hardship is the sign was there before the new sign
ordinance was passed.
MOTION seconded by I?xigans. Upon a voice v4te9 �la�eaa vot�n� nayy the
motion carried.
2. A�UEST FOR A VAR7ANCE OF SECTION 45.053, 4B, TO RED[TCE THE SIDE YARD
Mr. Kelshaw was present to present the reqnest. He presented a letter to
the Board signed by the adjacent property owners to the East of his
property, which state�l the variance will not in�erfere with their property.
1�bOTION by Sondheimer �o xec�ive the letter signed by Mr. � Mrs. Jachum.
, Seconded by Ahonen. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion
carried.
Mr. Kelsh�w explained there is 12 �eet between the existing stnictures
at the back and 14 feefi between them at the froa�. He is not building
an addition onto his house but simply com�erting the present garage into
1�3ng area and will install a fire wall. A new garage, that will need no
variances, is proposed and will be located in the backyard with the
� exit on Carol Drive.
MOTION by Ahonen to close the public hearing.
Seconded by 5ondheim�r. iTpon a voice vote, there being no nays, the
motion carried.
Sondheimer stated he would like a report from the Fire Department on
the mininaim safe distance between structures.
Mr. Bagstad s�fid he would contact the Fire Prevention Chief for this
report.
MOTION by Drigans to reco�nd to the City Council approval of the
request for the following reasons:
l. This will increase the value of the property as far as the house is
concerned.
2. Emergency vehicle access can be obtained from behind the building
without any due hardship.
3. The structure is not being expanded dimensionally.
4. He has agreed to put in a fire wall between the two structures which
^ is also a stipulation of the Board.
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Seconded by Ahonen. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion
�'`' carried unanin�ously.
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3. A R�QUEST FOR A VARLANCE OF SECTION 56.05. 3G FRIDLEY CITY CODE. TO
Mr. Dale �ud�on� Dfvision Engixieer with Continental Oil Compaay presented
the request.
Mr. Hudson stated the company is re-identifying itself by doiiag away with
the triangle sign because of not being able to use it world wide. The new
design is being used in all the advertising and Mr. Ryan is being
jeapordized as he is not taking advantage of this advertising. We wanted
to place the sign out of the way as far as the traffic is concerned and
we felt the pump island would be_best. The present sign is up agaiast the
property line and is in need of some repair work. The new aign will be
8 feet 7 inches from the property line so we are asking for a 1� foot
variance. The price pariel off the present sign Will be placed on the
new sign.
Sondheian�x asked what wind velocity the new sign will withstand?
Mr. Hudson answered 20 miles per square inch. He continued theq have
been installing these signs throughout the etate and Iawa and have
had no trouble with them. He felt it was an attractive sign.
Sondheimer asked Mr. Ba.gstad what the Building Inspection Department thought
of this sign.
Mr. Bagstad answered it would be an improvement to the area and that it
was difficult to locate a sign on this property.
MOTION by Drigans to close the public hearing.
Seconded by Sondheimer. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion
carried unanimously.
Mi0TI0N by Ahonen to recomnend to the City Council approval of this request
as it will be an improvement from the present sign situation.
Seconded by Drigans. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion
carried unanimously.
ADJOURNI�NT :
The meeting was adjourned by Chaixman Minish at 9:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
MARY HINTZ
Secretary
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BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL MEETING OF DECEMBER 17,..1970 �
� The meeting was called to order by Chairman Harris at 8;07 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Harris, White, Hart, Tonco
MEMBERS ABSENT: Gnerre
OTHERS PRESENT: Hank Muhich - Chief Building Inspector
MOTION by White to approve the minutes of the December 3, 1970 meeting as
written.
Seconded by Hart. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
1. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT AN ADDITIQN TO THE EXISTING BUILDING
LOCATED ON LOTS 28, 29, 30, BLOCK 2, ONAWAY ADDITION, THE SAME BEING 7805
BEECH STREET N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA, (REQUEST BY ADVANCED HEATING AND AIR
CONDITIONING. INC.. 7805 BEECH STREET N.E., MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA 55432.)
Mr. Maynard Edson and Mr. Roger Lind were present to present the request.
The addition will be 87' X 70`. The addition will be concrete block like the
. existing building. The entire building, including the addition, will all be
painted at the same time so that the paint will all match. They will also
be replacing all the windows for this reason. There will be 6 brick veneer
columns across the front of the building. The columns on the addition will
match the ones on the existing building. There will be break-off block
,^ across the top of the addition. The roof will be bar joist construction.
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With the addition to the building it was stated that they would need 16
additional parking spaces. They had room for 7 additional spaces at the
back of the building. The Board stated that they would need an agreement
from Advanced Heating & Air Conditioning agreeing to add additional parking
if necessary. They stated that this would be agreeable to them. Mr. Edson
also stated that there would be a 5 foot sidewalk along the parking lot in
the back of the building.
The Board also informed the owner that they would be expected to check with
the City before making any future rental agreements of the property to
prevent any possi.ble parking problems which might result from lessees ,
requiring excessive parking.
When the subject of a foundation permit was brought up, Mr. Harris said that
he was not in favor of issuing a foundation permit on this size of a building
because it puts a burden on the City and on the contractor.
Mr. Tonco inquired whether the 2 X 6 ceiling joist was adequate across the
span as shown in the plan and also if this met our fire codes.
When the subject of what means of storage of refuse they had was brought up,
Mr. Edson stated they intended to have a rubbish container to the rear of
the building which they would haul a�vay every week.
After discussing the plans further, Mr. Edson stated that he would just as
soon blacktop the land at the south end of the building for parking instead
of putting sod in. However, he said he would like to wait until 78th Ave.
was finished.
Building Standards-Desi�n Control Meeting of December 17, 1970 Page 2
The Board stated that this was agreeable to them except that he would have
� to put in a 5' planting strip along the street instead of blacktop all the
way to the street. This was agreed to.
MOTION by Tonco to recommend approval of a building permit subject to
everything marked in red on the plans including the following stipulations:
1. The completion of the parking lot abutting 78th Avenue will not be
completed until the situation on 78th Avenue is resolved, This
agreement would be made part of the Temporary Certificate of Occupancy.
2. A minimum 10' radius would be provided on all concrete curbing around
islands and entries.
3. If a foundation permit should be granted by the Council, a complete set
of inechanical and electrical plans must be submitted to the Building
Inspection Department for approval before a building permit will be
issued. The foundation permit is to go to grade level only.
Seconded by White. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously. •
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned by Chairman Harris at 9:10 P.M.
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CAROL CHUDEK
Secretary
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OFFICIAL NOTICE
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing
of the Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall
at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on January 20, 1971 in the
Council Chamber at 8:00 P.M. for the purpose of:
Consideration of a rezoning request, ZOA ��70-07,
by Richland, Incorporated, R. C. Ernst to rezone
from R-1 (single family dwellings) to R-2 (limited
multiple family dwellings) the South 395 feet of
Lot 1, Lots 2 and 3, Lot 4, except that part of the
West 132 feet lying South of the North 328.9 feet,
Lots 5 and 6, except the South 230 feet thereof,
Auditor's Subdivision No. 22, all lying in the
South Half of Section 13, T-30, R-24, City of Fridley,
County of Anoka, Minnesota.
Generally located between Mississippi Street, Rice
Creek Road, Arthur Street anu Stins�n.Boulevard.
Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above
matter may be heard at this time.
Publi_sh: January 6, 1971
January 13, 1971
OLIVEP. R. ERICKSON
CHAI RMAN
PLANNING COMMISSIUN
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YIANNING AND ZONING FORM
p�er ZOA ��70-07
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APYLiCANT' S S IGNATIJ�iE_ �. =. �� . ��.�s.:.l..�/ � � �i�
Addreae 1943 1 t� Ave, N.W. Rew Brightaa
Telephone N�ber `#�a�7`"`'� 636 1670 633-�553
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Address
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Variance
Lat Splits
Approval of Fre-
liminary Plat
Approval of Final
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Vacat3ons
Other
Stseet Locatioa of Property_�iasiasipni St, Rice Creek Road, ,Arthur St. StQnson Blvd
Legal D�acsiption of Property'f'he So. 395� of Lot 1, Lots 2 and 3, bot 4 eaespt th�
parL of t�e '�est 132' ly3ng Srntth of the North 32$.9' , zots 5 and 6 ex�ept the
Sau�th 23�' �hareof, all in Auditors Su.bdivision No. 22, Ano`�a Cannt�.
Prea�ant Zoning Cla�sification R1
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Exiating U�� of thz Property �'acant . .
Propo�ed Zosin� Classificmtion, Special U��, Varia�ce or other r�gueat
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Deacrib� briefly the Zjrp� of Us� �nd the Improve�!^nt Pr�pos�d
cor.Qtruction oY dou3le bungalows and dupleses
Acr@aBe of Propexty 35
flas the3 Prea�nt Ar�plic�nt Previou�ly °ou�ht to Ft�z�na�, Plat� dbtain a Lot Split,
Obtala e Va�rianc� oz Sp�scisl Use Fermft on t6� Subj�ct Site or Part of It?
�o idh�n?
What wr�o R�qu�Bted Fee Encl�eed $ �•00
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Dat� Filed Date o€ I{��rin�
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Star Route, Box 2A
- --Isle, Minnesota 56342
La Monni Follingstad
--I626 Rice Creek Road
Fridley
Nicholas Hennes
1540 Rice Creek Road
Fridley
Nick Paulson
1530 Rice Creek Road
Fridley
Bruce Olson
1442 - 64th
Fridley
Herbert Lennox III
1461 Rice Creek Road
Fridley
Kenneth Hollister
1466 - 64th
Fridley
Rubard Dotseth
1476 - 64th
Fridley
Harry Modesette
1443 - 64th
Fridley
Vernon Herman
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Dalton Natyke
1464 Mississippi
Fridley
Robert Pence
1489 - 64th
Fridley
Daryl Wolf
6446 Arthur Street
Fridley
Dennis Russell
1479 Mississippi Stre��t
Fridley
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Mr. Levi Phillips Riehland, Ync.
1632 Rice Creek Road
Fridley "
John C. Carroll
I450 Rice Creek Road
Fridley
Lavern Friend
1520 Rice Creek Road
Fridley
Russell Neuman
1501 Rice Creek Road
Fridley
David Wieland
1450 - 64th
Fridley
Walter Eigler
1456 - 64th
Fridley
Hjalmer Anderson
1491 Rice Creek Road
Fridley
Ra1ph Rundquist
1490 - 64th
Fridley
Kenneth Jorgensen
1453 - 64th
Fridley
Roy DeMars
1442 Mississippi
Fridley
Robert Milsten
1487 - 64th
Fridley
James Sang
6420 Arthur Street
Fridley
Robyn Larson
1482 Mississippi
Fridley
Cletus Nei
1465 Mississippi Street
Eri dley
`�� Donald Severson Richard Johnson
1489 Mississippi Street 6535 Arthur Stree�
Fridley Fridley
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Bruce Heirn
��Y675 Mississippi
Fridley
John Gannon
6516 Stinson
Fridley
Ed Chies
7651 Central Avenue N.B.
Fridley
Richard ,Taniak
1655 Mississippi Street
Fridley
Marvin Girard
6531 McKinley
Eridley
Bruce Kantor
6523.Anoka Street
Fridley
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Roy Holman
6500 Fridley Street
Fridley
Shirley Ludke Kummola
6530 Fridley Street
Fridley
Robert Dischinger
6529 Arthur Street
Fridley
Harry Shute
1501 Mississippi
Fridley
Arlen J. Haupert
6524 Anoka Street
Fridley
Rofiert ScIiaefer, City Mgr..
� Village of New Brigfiton
803 �'if tFi Ave, N ,W.,
New Brigfiton, Minn. 55112
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Richland, Inc.
E . F . Burke
k695 Mississippi
Fridley
Donald Anderson .
6530 Stinson
Fridley
Donald Friedland
6526 McKinley Street
Fridley
Richard Kok
6517 McRinley
Fridley
Robert Kush
6535 Anoka Street
Fridley
Alvin Flanders
6501 Anoka Street
Fri3ley
Harold Thielen
6514 Fr�dley Street
Fridley
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6535--Arthur Street '������ r � ��i�'
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Renneth Stidfole
I515 Mississippi
Fridley
J. Perkons
1535 Mississippi
Fridley
Marguerite Bell
6544 Anoka Street
Fridley
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1�ST. Harris asked what was being done with the water now, and Mr. Bren.-�y
aaswered that the water runs off into the stseet.
riz. $Tenny said they have put in about 100 yards of fill and will pi�ch the
lot to �o7,lpw the� aontours of the older parking lot.
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Chai,rman Erickson asked the Engineering Assistant if the culvert going under
the serViCe �Coad of T.H. #65 drained tha� area. Darre2 Clark explained that the
ditch ��.ot�g the highway should be lowered to drain the water from this area.
Beaause the land is about even witb the highway ditch, the culvert is usually �ull
and ahould be clsaned regularly. The Minnesota Highway Department wi11 not lqwe�
the di.tch because of the hazard oE having a deep ditch next to a highway. Tkie p�t.rk-
ing 1ot wQUld have to be gra�ed higher than it is now to tie into the street g�ade,
The �.and fio the East of the parking lot is law and filled with cattails.
Chairrnaa Exi�kson mentioned that the Building Standards-Design �ontrol Sub-
comtpittee would want to see Chis xequest, and that Mr. Brenny should fami.liariz�
b�mself w�,t� the xequirements of the ordinance. He felt he could not object to
this �equest fo� a special use permit although there is a problem of drainage �� i�
ie paxt of a larger problem which will have to be solved later on, Th� street was
put it� without the storm sewer. The street is fairly flat, but the higt� point is
between Highway �6S and Lucia Lane and the low spot is in the curve. Winter p.r��e���4
g p�pblea� o� ice and in the spring the water collects there.
A1QT�pN by N$xris, seconded by Minish, that the PubZic Hearing be closed �'Q�'
� the Specie�I Use Pernu t request, SP #70-10, by North A.ir Home Association to imp�oye
the pa�'king 1ot on the South 150 feet of I�ot 18, Brookview Addition, per Sec��o�
45,07� (3�') of the City Code. Upon a voice vo�e, aZ1 voting aye, the motion carried
. unanimous.�y.
itt. Fitzpatrick, after looking at the list of people who received public hear�
ing aoticee, coumaented that none of the people were present at this public hearin�.
��'fidN by Harris, seconded by Minish, that the Planning Commission recommer�d
app�'oval pf the request for a Special Use Permit, SP #70-10, by North Air Home
�ssop��tzPn for the improvement of the parking 1ot on the South I50 feet o� �o� 18,
8rookv�iew Jlddition as per Section 45.071 (3F) of the City Code with the stipuia�ian
that a p.�ot p.�� be made of the park.ing 1ot and brovght before the Building Sta.ndards=
pes3�n ControZ Subcommittee as per Zoning Ordinance adopted November 3, 1969. U�on
� yipi�Q ppt�, aIl votinq aye, the motion carried unanimausly.
Ae�erxing to the mailing list of the people within 300 feet, Chairman Er�ckson
asked if Lh� list was chec�Ced inasmuch as he did not see the apartment awners o�} i�*
Iie 8sic� he was not going against the motion but would sequeat that the owner Q� the
apa�cGme�� be given zhe minutes pf this meeting.
Mr. Iiarris stated he would like the City Adminiatration to take anothex lool�
-at th�a exorm sewer situation.
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SCUSSION �I�CE.NING A FUTUitE RE IIL .
[�S PER LETTER DATED 9/3/i0 FROM R.C. ERNST: Ares is vacant land bounded
�.�sisaippi. Street, Stinson Boulevard, Rice Creek Road and Arthur Street.
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Ylaianin8 Commission Meetin� SepCember 9, 1970 Page 3
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Mr. Ernst explained that the area is a 40 acre tract. There are six ar seven
dwellings on the perimeter, but th� property owners have been reduced from six to two.
- The proj�ct would be developed s�.milarly ta the sketch preaented this evening. 'I'hs
1$nd is zaned R-1 and he was requesting R-2 to allow construction of two family
_ clwellia�s. He xe�tized this is a problem piece of graund. By allowing double
pungalaw� and duplexes, the construction costs w�uld not be too high. Referri..�g to
the "lak� �rea"� �'Ir. Ernst said the pond contains about five acres and it wou]�d be
dedicated ta the City for paxk puxposes. All the lots shown on the sketch mee� �h�
City xequixements as to lot area.
Regarding drainage, the water concentrates in the lake area with the ov��flqW ,
gpi.ng out �o ths West into the existing ditch which leads �nto Moore I�ake.
'�'t�e �A�ineexing Assistant said Chat all the streets to the No�th in thi� axea
� have b�eA it�proved and are paved and hav� curb and gutter. Right of way has beezt
provided along the school property on Axthur Street for a storm se�aer to Rice Gr�ek
if Che C�.ty ordered it. -
The alt�rnative is a type of system with ditch improvements. The present dl��h
date� b�ck to about 1924. Due to nature as well as people filling it with 1e�ve�,
- -etC., th� ditch is filled in many places so tr�t on� could not easily identi�y �C
paW. If t�i$ sqstem worked out, the cost would be much less expensive than a stor�
sewex attd should be part of some improvement project. Originally the ditch w�
bu�.lt bq Pete Y�i.c:�elson with the h�lp of other neighbors . At that tirie, Missiseipp�.
St�ceet �as lawer and would flood ev�ry spring. The po�xds extend intd Ra�sey C,r�u:�fiy+
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Mz; Erns� was asked if he would gq ahead with the project whether or not �h�
. p,ty wou�d requsat a atorm sew�r o� the ditch for drainage. Mr. Ernst replied �h��
- prpba�ly not wi�h tha storrn sewer plan.
� Chair�tan ��.ckson reported that the Citq En�in�er had mentione� a fu�u�� o�
ot�e �ilio� aol��xs for the storm sewer in the'whole Rice Creek Azea.
Mz, Ha�ris felt the dit�h systen would b� the ag.� as a retenti.on basin. �
concrete structure.could be put at the outlet to control thE water level.
M�r. H�rris commented tlzat the R-2 would have R-1 district around it -- h4��=�
tp �be Narth and West, to the South Coc�ran's pit and 0'Bannon is building a cg��7.�
of homee. Mr. C,och�an might px�obably end up with a retention basin also. D���e_.�
C�.ark sai.c� Aigt�land Lake in the Eastern border o.f Innsbruck has a similaz� Con��r��.
9truC�u�. There is a gate to maintain definite levels of water, �erhaps th��
type qi '�ot�trol is the answer.
Cquunents were made that the Mississippi River had never been as lo� as �t �.e
ppw� �nd Rice Cre�r;, too, is at a low �ebb. It �'�uld be advisable to come up with
gqme me��od o£ retaining water wherever possible, not only in this area, but a��,s4
i.�i o�her parts of the City. Mr. I��rria comm�r.ted that it would be a mista'_.ce �q
take� t,he sGorm �ater to concrete pipes �nd le+t run off. It would be bette� �q hAy°
xeten�ion basina an� :ry Co keep the watex for the dry spells.
� rlx, ExnsX eaid th�at he had t�l'.:ed wi t'n the peop3e in the a�ea �nd th�y ��xe �t�
�avor o� ��aplexPS �nd double bur.galows. His first thought was Co deve�op �ul�ip�.�9
but after talking With same af the people who a�posed this idea, he decis��d om R�2�
ge felt th�re w��s a neec3 for this type of building with the high co�t pf hous�A�.
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Mu. Schmadake aske3 if Mr. Ernst plann�d to do th� building himself. Mr. x'nst
satid he did not, but �rlll put the l.ots up for ��le. Attentio�n �aa called to the
- -�act that s�.r:gle f�sily hotaes are per�i4tQd undar t'f�e ordinanc� in R-2 districta.
Ifr. Ernst �;� asl�e3 if h� w�ra a�aax� oi the fact that Ta�mhouses can be built in
_ __ -. 1�2, snd if it was hia intrntioz to limit t�.e request to ts�o f�ily d�aellings. rix'.
Etn�t a��ered that at this tim�,it was. Becs�e t�houses could get into qui�e
___ __sn e2�q��t� type o� dev�lo�n�nt, he did not ttxink h� would want Zo go into th�
mechanica ¢i aettin� u� the de��lapm•vni in this are�. �
Mx. H�rris a:�icrd if ��ir. Ernst wauld have ��� lots that w�re unbuildable or
dif�ic�lt �o bes.ild on. FSr. ° Ernst aaiswered they hWv� not ta%n e�t�xs�ive soil
be�ria�� s� he could not a.��er. The infora�tior� �e received is that tbe subsoll
i� s�attl with yezy iittle pe�t.
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Mr. �rri$ ��.ed T�Ic. Ernst i� he �ould ��t � a preli�ia�x'3' �eetin� with th$
peopl� involv�d alorg th� ditch, and Mr. Ernst ��reed that he in��n��d to do it.
?ir. E�nst s�d he h:.:� a�a�al of 78 buil3i�� sites. IIndsr the lot area re-�
quir+���:�m of th� Citq, ti3�y c�uld ��velo� 3.3 lo�s per acre. They hav� thirty--
five d�vel.�=^�le acres. �he sit� �ou1d yield 11� ��IIJIe family h��a�$. The laqout
pzesezzt�d t�i� �tr;.�n� �;.:.�9.�te for 78 st�u:.tu��-�s. Tir�r� ar� no pr�ul� with
utilities. The a�a�r on 54fh Avenu� is l��oe �ou;}�. Water servic� i� oa fou�
sides, Tt�e sewez' caaacit� iB adPqua��. He th�n��d the Co�ission �d said th�t
tUey had be�n v�xy helpful.
3. PI�A�'�TZA�G �flLia�.V �
in Su�co�t��e.
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_ __ - Z`}re P�:=:� �na# �tr��eation Co�.tssion would p�epare a r�ozt, I�. Fitzp�tric�+
�aid, �or thp p3 ��iag �aoa�i�v�rd. flis undexat�n�in� w�.� that, ox���n�l�y, t�?e
inte�t o� this s��3� �F� :�cY2enin� fcr th� p2�ple to the West. Z''ti� plznti�?
apnlev�:�� is in bari r�pair nc,�, and �nything t'ne Pl�nnina Co�mission cQUld rs�cc��-
�t�n� to b4a��ify tha �rea ;��u.'�3 h�lp sc�e�n a pzovY��tirye busin�ss fp•,*_� thP 1�-1
_._.Pto�arty ,
Mar. Sch��de'�� wond�r�d if the City could obtain small tr�e�e freL of chas��,
�ie would 1i?c� to see evergrezn trees pl2nted a: they would eventually give a
�olid and beauti.ful screen with a minimuffi of L�z�intena�.�e becausa there would b� no
' l�aves to ra'�.e in the f all.
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Mr, Fitzpatric� said the probl. n in the Par'�c Department is they �re ua�der-
taanned, The City t�..ke� c�� �dditional l�nd to d�valop for parI�s, but not additiona�
�2t� tp �o the woz'.c. The Park D2p�rt�:Qnt is very pre��ed for workers . If tt�.e C�,ty
wQUld �X��� the pl�..�.tin�; �txip and t�'�°n one of tt � civic arg�nizations in the f �. ty
b� �illin� to contzibute to tr.e develop��t of the pZanting strip, �3 th� Bqy
SCOUts pu� �n tha see�lln;,a � a�pec��l pxoj�ct, th� solutien to the proble:a o$
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the pl�ntirg strip �ould be so�ved. .
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Present Zonir� C�,asa�.fi.c�t�
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OFFICIAL NOTICE
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
Notice is hereby given that the Planning Commission
of the City of Fridley will meet in the Council Chamber of the
City Hall at 8:00 P.M. on Wednesday, February 3, 1971 to consider
the following matter:
A request for a Special Use Permit (SP 4671-01�
by Albert M. Johnson to permit the construction
of a double bungalow in an R-1 District as per
Fridley City Code, Section 45.051, Paragraph 3,
Subsection D, to be located on Lot 7, Block l,
A1 Rose Addition.
Generally located at 6270 East River Road.
Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above
matter may be heard at this meeting.
Publish: January 20, 1971
January 27, 1971
OLIVER R. ERICKSON
CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
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OFFICIAL NOTICE
CITY OF FRIDL��
--.PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNING COI�MISSI�N
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: •
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public
Hearing of the Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the
City Hall at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on February 3, 1971.
in the Council Chamber at 8:00 P.M. for the purpose of:
Consideration of a rezoning request, ZOA 4�71-01,
. by Wyman Smith, Attorney for Viking Chevrolet,
Incorporated to rezone from M-2 (Heavy Industrial
Area) to C-2 (General Business Areas) described
as follows:
All that part of the NW� of the NW1� of Section 2,
T-30, R-24 commencing at a point of intersection of
the South line of said NWi� of the NWI� and the West
right of way line of State Trunk Highway ��47; thence
West along the South line of said Nt,fi� of NWl� a
distance of 600 feet; thence North along a line
parallel to the West right o£ way line of T.H. 4�47
a distance of 1,675 feet; thence East to the West
right of way of T.H. ��47; thence South along said
right of way to the South line af said NW14 of the
NW� of Section 2, being the point of beginning,
there terminating.
Generally located at 83rd A..venue and University Avenue
Northeast.
Anyone desiring to be heard -�ith reference to the above
matter may be heard at this time.
OLIVER R. ERICKSON
CHAIRMAN
PLANNITiG COMMISSION
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