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PLANNII3G COMMTSSION MEETING MARCH 8, 1972 8:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER;
' ROLL CALL:
� APPROVE PLANNING COMNRSSION MINUTES: FEBRUARY 23, 1972
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RECEIVE PLATS & SUBDIVISIONS-STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES:
EEBRUARY 23, 1972
RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMhfISSION MINUTES: JANUARY 31z 1972
RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES: FEBRUAR.Y 29, 1972
RECEIVE SUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCONIMITT�E MINtJTES:
FEBRTJARY 24, 1972
1. PUBLIC HE�RING: SPECIAL USE FERMIT, SP '�72-01, PATRICIA H. GRASSINI:
Single family home with rental unit in basement. R-1 District.
Petitioner requested item be tabled until furCher notice - Page 24,
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2. PLBLIC HEARING• REVISION TO SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP ��71-09�__SOC?'AL 3�J-32
DYNA1�tICS: To enlarge site to include East 45 feet of Lot 3, Block 1,
Oak Hi11 Addition to permit construction and operation of day nursery
and learning center per City Code 45.051, 3-F.
3. LOT SPLIT REQL�E:ST: L.S. ��72-01, GERRAL H�RRIN�ER. Lot 3, B1ock 1, 33-35
Oak Hill Addition to be split in half to create one 75 foot residential 6-7
lot, remainder used for slope and backyard for Learning Tree pay Care
Center.
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VACATION REQUEST: 5AV ��72-01, RUSSELL M. HEDGE: Vacate Madison
Street lying between Blocks 1 and 2, Oa'�c Hzll Adsiition.
LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. ��71-08. BY CLIFFORD THOE: The East 125 feet
of Lot 18, Block 2, Central View rianor. Owner wishes to split aff
residence, approximately 70'x100', and sel.l balance of lot tu 'service
station lessee.
6. VACATION REQUEST: SAV ��72-fl 3�, BY .;OSEPH A. LAURENT: Vacate the
Easterly 4.5 feet of the Westerly 15 feet of I�ot 5, Block 1, S*�an-
strom's Court Addition - to build a two car gurage.
7. C(}i�iERJIAL ZC�NIrIG RE�'IEW MA'�'ERIAL:
8. PRELIriINARY APFROVAL OF �'?-iASE I(5 Four trnit uadrominiums} BY VIEW-
CON, INC.: �or_dominium pc,rtion of total.multiple unit complEx located
on Part of Outlot H.
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING , FEBRUARY 23, 1972 PAGE 1 �
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The meeting.was called to order at 8:00 P.M. by Chairman Erickson.
ROLL CALL: ' .
Members Present; Minish, Zeglen, Erickson, Schmedeke, Fitzpatrick �
Members Absent: None �
Others Present: Darrel C1ark, Engineering Assistant �
- Nasim M. Qureshi, City Engineer-Director of Planning
, Peter J. Herlofsky, Planning Assistant ;
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APP.ROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: FEBRUARY 9, 1972 �
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MOTION br� Schmedeke, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the Planning Commission
minutes of February 9, 1972 be approved, Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, �
the motion carried unanimously. �
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RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBC4A�iITTEE MINUTES: FEBRUARY 10, 1972
MOTION by Zeglen, seconded by Fitzpatrick, that the PZanning Com�russion
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receive the BuiZding 5tandards-Design Control 5ubcommittee minutes of February Z0,
Z972.'. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
RECEIVE PLATS & SIIBDIVISIANS-STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES:
FEBRUARY 9, 1972
MOTION by Schmedeke, seconded by Zeglen that the Planning Commission receive
the Pl�ts & Subdivisions-Streets & Utilities Subcommittee minutes of Februar�} 9,
1972. Upon a voice vote, aIZ votinq aye, the motion carried unanimously.
RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES: FEBRUARY 15� 1972
MOTION by Schmedeke, seconded by Zeglen,.that the Planning Commission
receive the Board of Appeals minutes of February 15, 1972: Upon a voice vote,
a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
1. VISITORc DONALD MITTELSTADT, 3RD WARD COUNCILMAN: DISCUSSION OF PROCEDURE
FOR SUBCOMM:LTTEE MINUTES RELATING TO COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION:
_ Councilman Mittelstadt said he was here to address the Planning Commission
regarding the letter dated January 24, 1972 written by the City Manager, as
c�irected by Council, describing their relationship with the various subcommittees
that reported to the Commission and their general feeling about current operations.
He asked if they would wish this type of involvement to eontinue as it is now
or change it as he would suggest now.
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He said tiiat the Planning Commission was a very important unit in the City
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of Fridley. He has been a member of several Subcommittees and also the Planning
Commission and he felt the research work of these committees is necessary to
conduct City Business. The City Council relies exclusively on the Planning Com-
mission for the physical aspects of the City, and there are political involve-
ments that concern Council decision. His proposa� was that a11 of the Subcom- �
mittees under the Planning Commission report their minutes to the Flanning Com- �
mission. This is the purpose for having the chairman of the Sub committees a '
member of the Planning Commission. When you receive the minutes of the Subcom- •�
. mittee, review and check and take action. If you do not agree with the recom- ;
mendations as passed, you turn it over to the chairman of the subcommittee and E
. he has`the'responsibility to retu�n.it back ta the Subcommittee=for"reconsidera= '
tion. !
Cauncilman Mittelstadt continued that the petitioner should be informed
that sometimes these requests take quite a bit of time when public hearings
are involved and ihey should allow for that and nat expect to be taken care of
within a few days. Ae said he proposes that the Commission thoroughly review
the Subcommittee mi.nutes, and that the Pl.anning Commission recommendation
should be given top priority by the Council. If it takes a resolution to accom-
plish this change, it can be done. He said he kneEa the Council would go along
with him with this proposal and they will have a much better relationship ,
between the City Council and the Planning Commission.
Chairman Erickson stated the Commission did discuss this. He did not
think the Cammission would want to delay a decision on a request, and if they
^ _ did ag�ee to his proposal, they would have to change some of the Subcommittee
and Planning Commission meeting schedules.
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Mr. S.chmedeke said that the Chairman's suggestion made sense to him. It
seems time is the-element that all petitioners shout about. His recommendation
_ would be, if the system did change, a representative from each of the Commis-
sions and the City Department representative meet with the Planning Commission.
Then the responsibility for any error would directly fall on the individual.
It is the time element to be considered as the members of the commissions and
subcommittees are not paid.
Chairman Erickson said that his understanding of Councilman Mittelstadt's
proposal is that the Subcommittee minutes be_acted on and approved by the
Planning Commission. In the past they have merely been rec�ived with Council
acting an the request. - � \ � � �
There followed a discussion by the members and the councilman of the proce-
dure used when those members served on the Subcommittees. Mr. Qureshi explained
how, in the case of the Board of Appeals, the original set up was that the
Board made the recommendations and the Council made the final decision. Then
in 1966, the Council, in trying to shorten the procedure, gave the Board of
Appeals the final say, with right of appeal of the denial to the City Council.
Later on Council was not satisfied with this arrangement because of decisions
by the Board anc� the Council reverted back to the original set up.
Chairman Erickson said the Subcommittee should make sure the City staff
has had time ta go over the agenda items. The Commission would like to know
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what Council wants: How much of the decisions does the Couneil want. He knows
what Mr. Mittelstadt wants, but if it is the feeling of the Council that they
want the PS.anning Commission to take over the subcommittee, maybe the whole
subcommittee should be made members.of the Planning Commission.
Mr�. Fitzpatrick said the example they mentioned earlier was one request
that more time could have been used and that is the tin shed on Main Street.
It may occur once out of 100 times, but he would not want that kind of �hing to
happen too often.,.
Councilman Mittelstadt said that the Planning Commission should be the
planni.zzg body-of the City because his point was that the Council daes nat
necessarily have the e�ertise for all the varied requests. With the recom-
me��c�atiQn from the Commissions, the Council could act with coz�fidence. If we
aha�e�this method, the Council would be in a position-where it would rely almost
totally on the recommendations of the Planning Commission. The fallacy that
the general public has of a City Councilman, that once he is eleoted, he is
all seeing and al1 knowing. Council.men should take great pains in the se�.ection
of the Cammitteemen so that they would be qualified to render good recommenda-
tions to the Council. Therefore Council would be a policy making body.
_ Chairman Erickson said that if they were going to have a Building Standards
Committee that really are going to be exparienced, then those members should be
appointed from the profession itself, but the next thing is to get a qualified
, man who will say "yes" and serve. ,
Mamber Minish arrived.
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Councilman Mittlestadt said he was not changing the ordinance. He was not
saying the Planning Commission would have the final decision, however, their
recommendation would be considered top.priority.
Mr..Qureshi said on the Design Control_Committee work,_the basic outline is
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City_ can require the_getitioner _to c�o as far as�building is concerned
Chairman Erickson asked if the plam is for the proposal to come to the
Planning Commission before the Council? Did Mr. Mittelstadt think that would
� prevent unfartunate decisions.
Couneilman;Mittelstadt said the requests wduld have t0 go through the same
action as the Planning Commission, to agree or to disagree. They would rely
.. almost thoroughly on the Planning Commission. The only thing that would change
the recommendation would be a poiitical involvment or political aspect. He
had the majority of the Council members agreeing with the proposal.
_ Chairman Erickson said the Planning Ccmmission would do anything the Council
. wants.
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Councilman Mittelstad said he would like to get the feeling of the Planning
Commission and then he would go to the Council.
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- Februarv 23, 1972
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Chairu�an Ericl�son said the Commission doesn't do a lot of pl.anning.for the
City such as sidewalks. If it could be shown the suggested proposal does not
deZay the getitioner, he would have no objections. The Subcommittee and the
Planning Couunission £ound that the Council has, at times, ignored their recom-
mendations.
Mr. Minish said he would like to see the Planning Commission have authority
to make the final decision of granting permits for variances. If the Planning
Commission gave a�negative decision, the next high court would be the Council.
Chairman Erickson asked Mr. Qureshi if, to his knowledge,, the, publ�c ever
influenced the Council as to the issuance of a building permit'or issuanee of
variances. Mr. Qureshi said there have been discussions regarding buffers,
la�dscaping, etc. Chairman Erickson said he felt that type of thin� could be
done at another level. Mr. Qureshi said there is a public hearing before the
Board of Appeals and then goes to the CounciL Chairman Erickson said that
if the Planning Commission were to act on variances, the Council has to give
that authority or release that control.i£ the Planning Commission is to be
upgraded as a decision making body.
Mr. Fitzpatrick added.that there is also the point that, besides some
necessary changes in legalities, there would also be some in the method of
practices.
Chairman Erickson asked that the Planning Commission be given more time to
study the comments made this evening. .
^ . Councilman Mittelstadt thanked the members for taking up their time.
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2. REFERENCE TO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 9, 1972 BY MEi�ER
_ . � SCHMEDEKE :
Mr. Schmedeke called attention to Pages 8, 9 and 10 of the February 9th
minutes which referred to lots under C-1 and C-2 districts whose area did not
meet �he requirements of the ordinance and therefore were unbuildable 1ots.
Upon further checking, he found it was not the Flanning Commission that definitely
recommended the lot area or lot width. The Commission has already run into
three situations where they cannot live with in our present zoning ordinance.
The last request the Planning Commission received, even with Changing the �oning
from C-1 to C-2, the land could not be utilize� under that zoning. Adjoining
�this property are three more parcels of the same size that are too small for
the present ordinance. To be certain that this situation does not continue,
he proposed to make an amendment to Ordinance No. 459. He proposed that the
lot area be 20,000 square feet, and the width 160 feet. Mr. Schmedeke said
he thought it was a logical request and proper. Even with these changes,
variances will be requested.
Chairman Erickson said that first of all, he was happy to hear Mr. Schmedeke
say that the Planning Commissian didn't make the decision regarding the area
requirements in Ordinance No. 459. Those figures crere for a special area and
did help the problem in that area.
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7'he Chairman asked him how the change in the area requirements would affect
- th�-property zoned C-1 and C-2. '
� Mr. Schmedeke answered that there would still be variances. He found out
that 25,000 square feet was quite expensive to buy because of assessments. He
was asked if anyone tried to develop the area around him under C-1.
Mr. Schmedeke said that he thought it would help that situation. The house
to the.North of his property has 20,000 square feet. With the change in the
ordinance, that area could develop commercial.
Mr. Minish said that then there would be no need for a Special Use Permit.
"The following changes were suggested: Square footage, front footage, Special
Use Permit (some of the Uses in C-2 be permitted in C-1 under Special Use
�'� �� Permit),�and add or subtract any Uses they wish.
The Gity Engineer stated that Fridley has a very limited_;amount of property
left in the C-1 areas. The Special Use Permit has the degree of control you
may want to use and it,the permit�may be temporary.
The Chairman suggested this item be tabled until the next regular meeting
and have the staff and members of the Commission come up with their suggestions
at that time.
Darrel Clark said that the footage requirements Eldon proposed they could
-probably agree with, but he wondered if they should not wait until the Commission
^ gets f urther into the study cf the Comprehensive Plan. .
The Chairman stated the Planning Commission table the item of changing the
_ C-1 and C-2 land area requirements by Ordinance until the next regular meeting.
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4. APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTF'S: FEBRUARY I6, 1972
MOTION by Fitzpatrick, seconded by Minish, fhat tlze Planning Commission
minutes of February 16, 1972 be approved. Upan a voice vote, a11 voting aye,
the mvtion carried unanimously.
The Secretary left the meeting at 9:30 P.M.
5. CONTINUED: STL'DY: PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN:
The Planning Commission continued their study of the Proposed Comprehensive
Municipal Development Plan. The next study meeting is March 22, 1972.
AnJOU�ErrT :
There being no further business, Chairman Erickson adjourned the meeting
at I2:00 P.M.
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_ CITY OF �'i�IDLEY
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STREETS & UTILITZES SUBCAMMITTEE MEETING FEBRUARY 23, 1972 FAGE 1 '
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Schmedeke at 7:00 P.M. _
: .ROLL CALL:
Meinbers Present: Meissner, French, Schmedeke
Members Absent: Engdahl, Forster
Others Present: Darrel Clark, Engineering Assistant
.1. VACATION RE(�UEST, SAV ��72-01, BY RUSSELL HEDGE: To vacate Madisoa Street
. lying between Blocks 1 and 2, Oak Hill Addition. '
, 2. LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L.S. ��72-01, BY GE�tRA,L G. HERRINGER:. Lot' 3, Block l,
Oak HiI1 Addition to be split in half.
. Mr. and Mrs. Hedge were present for Item 1 and Mr. Gerral Herringer-and
Mr. Tom Norquist for Item 2. -
. The Subcouunittee studied.the blackboard drawing indicating the land owned
_.. by Mr. Herringer and Mr. Hedge. The vacatian of Madison Street will give the
.West 30 feet to.the Hedge property which they plan to use as an additional
,� yarsl space while Mr. Herringer.will take the East 3Q feet and combine with
Lat 3. Lot 3 wi.11 be split in half (L.S. ��72-01) adding the East 45 feet to
Lots 1 and 2 for the Day Care Center. The Easterly 30 feet from Madison Street
together with the East 45 feet of Lot 3 will make a 75 foot residential lot.
The Day-Care Center will use their land for more playground and open space.
_.Mr. Clark said the oniy conment the staff would make is that there is an
existing Standard 0i1 Pipe line over the South 25 feet which includes a six
. foot water easement and there is an utility easement of the North l0 feet.
There is a watermain on the West boundary line of the Hedge lot. There is no
easement for this watermain yet, hcwever, Mr: Hedge said he would dedicate
• whatever he cau2d along the West side of his garage.
Chairman Schmedeke said these requests wou�d be benef�.cial to`�the City. A
. building site will be the result of tfie lot split and vacation.
_ Mr. Clark said he had told Mr: Hedge tr.at maybe the City survey crew
could go out and measure the easement for the watermain on the West. The
fence, which was put up by the Church, is four feet West of the garage. Mr.
' Clark said a fen.ce is usually one half foot off the lot line. The City should
_ retain a 10 foot easement on the North and retain the Southerly 25 feet for
._ the Standard Oil Company and the new watermain line.
The Engineering Assistant continued that he had spoken with the Standard
Oi1 Company, Northern States Power, Northwestern BeI1 Telephone Co. and the
�. Minneapolis Gas �ompany and, as far as they were concerned, it would work out
fine.
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He continued that when the vacation is made, a 75 foot �.pt..will be created:.
_ Regard`ing-the feuce,.it;was put up to prevent pedestrians going through the
yards.
MOTION by Meissner, seconded by French, that the P1ats & Subdivisions-
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee recommend appraval to the PZanning Commission
of the vacation request, 5AV #7'2-01, b� Russell Nedqe to vacate Madison 5treet
Zying between Blocks Z and 2, Oak Hi11 Addition subject to retaining the
Northerly 10 feet for utility and drainage, the Boutherly 25 feet for Standard
Oi1 Co�any, a deziication of the WesterZy 4 feet of Lot 1, B1ock 2 for the a1d
existing watermain, dedication of the 5outherly 6 feet of Block l and the
Southerly 6 feet of Lot 1, Block 2, and the dedication of the Northerly 10 feet
of BZock 1. Upon a voice vote, �Z1 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
'The Engineering Assistant explained that the Lat Split re4uest, L.S. ��72-01,
by Gerral Herringer was to split the 90 foot Lot 3 in half, 45 feet to go with
the 30 feet of the vacated street making a 75 foot lot. The East 45 feet of
Lot 3 will go together with Lots 1 and 2 for the Day Care Center.
Monroe Street is 30 feet wide. When Target was processing their rezoning,
-=.-they deeded the East 30 feet of Lot 1 to the City to make a full 60 foot
street. The Glover property to the North will probably be developed inta one
project. The Citq will probably deed the East 15-feet of the street easement
in exchange for the 10 foot.drainage and utility easement on the North o£ Lots
- 1, 2 and 3 and the b foot easement on the South for water. This wauld leave
a 33 foot apening to the Glover .property. .
� MOTIQN by French, seconded by Meissner, that the P1ats &.Subdivisions=Streets
� &-Uti.Iities Subcomrrcittee recommend approvaZ to the PlanniMg Commission of the
Lot Sp1it request, L.S. #72-OI, b� Gerral G. Herringer to split Lot 3, 81ock 1,
Oak HiZl Addition in half subject to the City receiving a:10 foot easement on
the North and a six foot easement on the South. Upon a voice vote, a.Z1 voting
aye, the mation carried unanimously.
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Mr. French stated he drove by the property and the plans presented this
evening can't be anything but an improvement.
3._ STUDY. LOOPBACKS
- The Subcommittee received a statement from the Engineering Assistant dated
February 23, 1972 which, he said, were the requirements for access to corner
commercial lats as it exists in the ordinance today. The requirements for
driveways into co�mercial lots have to be at least 75 feet from an intersection.
_ On the blackboard he showed a typical commercial 1ot in loopback situation,
which showed two openings of 25 feet that were 7S.feet from the corners. This
would allaw for the stacking of three or four cars between the driveway and
the intersection. �
Chairman Schmedeke felt the car wash on 73rd Avenue and University is an
example of what he would like to see for the loopbacks. There is no traffic
_ jam created with this type of loogback. If the access could be closed, the
site might not be as attractive to filling stations and some other type of
business might be interested. What he was trying to say and do is to discaurage
more service stations in Fridley.
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Mr. Clark said to do this, the ordinance and restrictions would have to be
-_ changed, and the restrictions would have to be the same throughout the Citq.
� Mr. Schmedeke said he would like a restricted access completely. He has been
pre�ching hedges and trees for years, and now he wants to wark on the loopbacks. �
Darrel Clark said that a car wash needs room for stacking to get into the
gas station, so the car wash on 73rd Avenue built an extra lane. They have 300
� feet between the gas pump and University Avenue. All requests for gas stations
have to be by Special Use Fermit.
Mr. Donald Mittelstadt, Councilman,from the Third Ward, offered the following �
--`�observations: He stated that Fridley was the first suburb to use the loopback
_. system of service drives. He, too,�is concerned with the idea that all the islands
created h;� the loopbacks are going Co be potential service stati,on sit�s. He !,
hoped that the islands could be made large enough to attract other courmercial or
industrial enterprises. He was happy that the Subcommittee was taking the time
to study the possible traffic problem created by service drive loopbacks.
� Mr. Schmedeke said he would like to see the Gity come back with:a proposal
and ordinance.
' Mr. French said he did not think 75 feet was a realistic figure. He would
. go along with the Chairman after looking at the sketch on the blackboard.
Darrel Clark said he would draw up.an ordinance and mail it to the'Subcommittee
members.
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ADJOURNMENT : .
MOTION by Mr. French that the P1ats & 5ubdivisions-Streets & Utilities Sub-
comm.ittee meeting be adjourned at 7:50 P.M.
Respectfully submitted
Hazel 0'Brian
Recording Secretaxy
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MINUf'ES OF THE REGULAR PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, �aNUaRY 31, �'��Z,
Meeting was called to order at 7:50 p.m., by Chairman Fitzpatrick.
^ MEMBERS PRESENT: Fitzpatrick, Blair, Olson.
' MEMBERS ABSENT: StimmZer, iVagar.
OTHERS PRESENT: Adalph Kukowski, 6131 5th Street NE, 55432, 560-6469, J.C.'s.
` Paul Brown, Director of Farks & Recreation.
Cathie Stordahl, Secretary to the Commission.
MINUTES OF DECEMBER ZO, IJ%�. MEETING�
M�TIQN 6y B.�a,ilc, Sec�nded by U.P�an, �� ap�nove �G►.e Mi.nc�ie�s o� �he Regu,�cv�.-Pcvch�s and
Rec�c.e,a�',i.�n Camm.i�s�s�.an M2e,t,i.ng, daied �ecembe�c 20, 1971. The Ma�,i.on ca�vc�.ed.
PARK DEPARTMENT SHIF7S�
Mr. Brown informed the Commission that the Park Department Staff has gone on a split
shift for the duration of the skating season. The men were given a chance to bid
their desired shift, according to seniority. They'll work a£ive day shift, but not
all of them will be off on Saturday and Sunday. This change in schedule is an effort
to cut down on the amount of overtime required to maintain the ice for the skating
season. Mr. Brown reports that to date, it seems to be working out satisfactorily.
FLANERY ESTATE�
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Mr. Brown asked the Commission for direct guidelines as to the way to use the maney
in the Flanery Estate.
Mr. 41son reminded the Commission that a monument was requested by the executors of
Estate, in memQry of Mr. Flanery. Mr. Brown agreed that this would be don�, but that
he'd like some assistance in determining how to spend the remaining funds.
Mr. Brown recommended that lights could be installed in the park, to enable the
residents to play ball and hockey. He pointed out that there is a definite need
for lighting at all of our parks, if for no other reason tha^ liability. Mr. Blair
pointed out that the rink is too small for Hockey and he feels it would be a waste
of money to install lights. Mr. Brown said that if lights were installed, the
rink would be made to regulation size for I-iockey. The Commission agreed.that if the
rink could be enlarged, that this would be a good idea for use of the donation. Mr.
Fitzpatrick said that of Fridley's Parks, Flanery and Burlington Northern were the
only ones without lights. � • '
Mr. Fitzpatrick also recommended that perhaps a nice piece of apparatus for the
summer playground, would be in order. The Commissioners agreed that i_t should
probably be spent on one or two larger items, rather than a group of miscellaneous
small items, such as picnic tables and burners.
Mr. Blair recommended that this topic be tabled until the February.
M�TIUN by B.2cwe, See��cded by �,2.san, �� �ab�e �he d.i�cws��.vn �� �he ��e�.cLing a� �uncLs
dana,ted by -tbi.e �.ea.netc:y �s�a.ie, u�ti.2 �he Febnuany mee.tt.ng. The Ma�,i.an ecuvu.ed.
����! ERICKSON PARK�
Mr. Fitzpatrick opened
regardir.g the proposed
there are already two
the discussion of the letter received from Mrs. Robert ilaake,
beach on Spxing Lake. In her letter, Mrs. Haake states that
eaches located on this lake, and she feels another beach
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/� w�uTd not�be an asset to such a small laks. She apparently visualizes a beach similar
to the one located on East Moore Lake.
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Mr. Brown informed the Commission that the beach which Fr'idley is proposing will in
no way reflect the one at Moore Lake. The tract of land which Fridley owns is quite
sma11 and there would be no place to surface for parking, so this would merely be
a neighborhood beach and we would provide a guard for their safety. Also suggested
for,this beach were docks, picnic tables and burners, but no beach house. We would
probably rent Satellites for bathroom facilities.
Mr. Brown reminded the Commission that we received the $2,000.00 Beach Grant from
Anoka County last year and this sum is being held in escrow for beach development.
We have applied for this same grant for this year and the combined monies should
be enough to get a good start on the beach.
Mr. Brown stated that Mrs. Haake envisions a beach similar to Moore Lake and this
just isn't going to be built. She states that mothers watch the younger children
who are swimming, but what about the older children who are old enough to go to
the beach without supervision? T'hese children are out on inner tubes and if
something would happen, there's no one qualified, who could be of any assistance
to the one in distress.
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��rcam Mjc�s. NaaEze, and �.n�on.m helc. ab fin,t.d2ey'.a �.�ar� and wha,t .i..s pnapv�sed �an �he
6eueh an Sryu.ng Lal�e. The Ma�,i.an eatvc.,�ed.
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1��,DE OF PROAERTY NEAR LOCKE LAKE�
Mr. Fitzpatrick stated that he expected to see some neighbors from the area East of
Ashton and near the railroad tracks. The northern part of this area is to be
developed and the developer has come before the Planning Commission with his proposals
and requests that the alley easement be vacated in his favor which would riarrow the
park land adjacent to it, considerably. The Park land is awfully narrow now. The
land the City owns is called Locke Lake Park and it's not developed. The residents
of the area have never requested development, but rather they have made use of the
open properties available. Now with this new develapment, these open properties
will no longer be in existance and there wom't be park possibilities available. The
developer has proposed to trade the north lot, once it's platted, for a couple of '
tax forfeit lots on the south end of this property. He would gain�more total frontage
in this trade, but would be giving up the area that we might want. •
Some of the neighbors appeared before the Planning Commission when this development
came up, and they were wondering just what kind of a park they might expect.
The problem the City will face is just who will have to pay the assessments on these
tax forfeit lots. The assessments would probably run in the neighborhood of $4 - 5,000.00.
The City Assessor is in the process of researching these properties. The present park
property is at a 45 degree angle. The Planning Commission did not approve the request
to vacate the alley right of �aay. _
� According ta bir. Fitzpatrick, what this trade would involve, is that we'd be pa�ing,
roughly $4,500.0�, for adding a lot to the park we alreaciy have. Mr. Blair stated
that he felt it was a lot of money and when we're through, we wouldn't really have
much, Mr. Fitzpatrick said tha:. on the other hand, the area residents have nothing
now and anything would be an improvement.
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' TRADE t�F' PRQPERTY NEAR LOCKE LAKE �CON �T) :
� Mr. Olsan�recommended that th'e Commission take no action and that it be left up to
the discretion of the City Council. Mr. Blair agreed and no motion was made.
GIFT FROM FRIDLEY JAYCEES, �
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Adolph Kukowski, President of the Fridley Jaycees, was present to inform the
Commission that the Jaycees are looking for a Civic Froject. They have about $4,000.00
to spend and a lot of man power, so they would like some suggestions for a project.
Mr. Kukowski stated that they have more man power than money, so would like the
Cammi�ssion to make their suggestions accordingly. He stated that the Jaycees are
interested in totally developing a park.
Mr. Brown suggested the following possibilities: Rice Creek Park, Locke Lake Park,
Chases Island, Burlington Northern Park, and Innsbruck Park.
Mr. Kukows};i tenatively ruled out Burlington Northern Park, because it's only a
leased park and with proper notification, could revert back to Burlington Northern.
The City would then have to remove all equipment and the Jaycee project would be
lost.
After reviewing all five of the areas, it was recommended by Mr. Blair, that Chases
Island and Rice Creek Park be made accessible to the Jaycees £or possible development.
MOTION 6y B.�cr,itc, Secoreded by 0.?.savi, �a maFze Chcvse� I�s2av�d and R.iee CneeFz PcucFz
� acce�s��.6.2e �o �he Ftc,i.d2ey Jayeee�s �an �aa�s�.b.�e deve,�a�mewt. The M��',i.on eatv�,i.ed.
MUNICIPAL SWIMMING POOL FOR FRIDLEY�
Mr. Fitzpatrick introduced the discussion of the Municipal Swimming Pool for Fridley.
The City Council has referred this question back to the Commission, as they have
done before, for more information.
Mr. Brown explained to the Commission that as far as he was concerned, the Department
had done everything they could, He said that he had sent aut letters to the various
communities who have constructed pools, asking for size, construction information,
cost, and fund raising activities. He had received information back from several of
them and compiled it in a report for the Council. The Council, in turn, referred the,
information and study back to the Commission for furth�r research. Mr. Brown replied
that he didn't know what else could be done on the DepartmAnt level. Any further
information would have to come from professional people. '
Mr. Blair recommended that the Council bring a professional group in to answer the
questions a through e in the City Manager's Memo dated December 12, 1971. Mr. Blair
also recomm'ended that a letter be sent to City Organizations to see what their
opinions are, concerning the nee�s for a municipal swimming pool.
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C.�.ty (i�.ga�uzcc�i.�vu neque�s�i.ng or�.wi.ows an a�Gvc.ee po�.wt �sunvey and �he �a�a.e ea�s�
a� a Murr,i,c,i.�a,2 Sc,u.mm�.nc� Poo.2 {�on Ftc,i.d2ey, arld �he,i�c. �,ugye�5�,i.ows {�an e�mn.�e,t,i.�n aS
�,tGu� pno1 ec,t. The ti{afi.i.an carvued .
COVDITION OF MOORE LAKE�
Mr. Brown informed the Commission that he had met with Dr. Lawrence Foote of the
Minnssota Highway pepartment, concerning the conditions of Moore Lake and the affect
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CONDJT?OIVS OF MOORE LAKE �CON�T);
^ the highway and freeway systems drainage are having on it. According to Dr. Foote,
the majority of the prablems of the pollution of Moore Lake are coming from the
development of`homes and land to the East of the lake itself, rather that from the
� highway. Dr. Foote said that they had figured out the amount of tonage being
, deposited in the lake from the contractors, and likewise, the amount being deposited
from the freeway system. Dr. Foote re�orts that there is possibly up to 600 ton
of sediment coming into the lake per year, from the East side, and o� that, only
20 to 50 ton is resulting from highways. Mr. Brown stated that, depending on t.he
severity of the situation and whether or not it is resulting from the h�ighways,
the State will pay a percentage of the cost far correcting the problem.
Dr. Foote did some research on Moore Lake and it was a marsh land. In 1954, the
highway was built. East Moore Lake was nothing but bogs and one could walk across
it, so this is where they dredged the material from to build the road. Once the
development of the area immediately to the East of Lake was begun, the sediment
once again began moving down to the lake, and thus the marsh-like state was once
again beginning to form. He stated that naturally these areas return to their
original state, if something isn't done to stop it.
There are presently 5 major drainage systems which lead into the lake at this time.
Sediment basins could be installed, but this is costly. The majority of the problem
is not chemical, but rather sediment. Dr. Foote felt that we'd be working in vain
until construction in the area is completed.
� The fish kill isn't due to chemicals from the highway, either. This is due to the
lack of oxygen and the shallowness of the lake.
Dredging entered the discussion and to do this, the materials would have to be
trucked out. The original plan was to move it to the end of the end of the lake
and deposit it there, but with the conditions as they are now, it is highly
recoinmended that the materials be trucked out of the area completely.
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MEETING DATES.
The Commission has delayed the setting of the regular Commission Meeting dates, until
a full board of Commissioners is present.
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M�TIUN by B.P.a,itc, Sec�v�ded by �.P�s�n, z� ad1aunn �he mee,t.i.ng cr,t 9:45 p:m.
The next regular meeting will be held on February 28, 1972, at 7:30 p.m., in the
Community Room at Fridley Civic Center.
Resgectfully submitted,
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En-IIE STOR HL, Secretary to the Commission
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THE MINUTES OF THE SOARD OF APPEALS MEETING OF FEBRUARY 29, 1g72 _ '
The meeting was called to ordex`by Chairman Minish at 7:30 P.M.
^� MEMBERS PRESENT: Minish, Harju, Crowder
MEIvfBERS ABSEN�:' -Wahlberg, Sondheim�r `
OTHERS PRESENT: Clarence Belisle - Building Inspector
, MOTION by Harju to approve the minutes of the February l5, 1972 meeting as
• written.
Seconded hy Crowder. Upon a voic� vate, there being no nays,, the gtotion caxried
unanimously.
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1. A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF SECTION 45.053, 4B. 5A. TO REDUCE THE MINIMLAK SIDE
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Chairman Minish said Mr. Johanson had called him to explain he would not be
able to attend this meeting but he would still like the Boaxd to consider the
variance.
A survey of the lot, with the proposed location of the house drawn on it,.was
shown to the Boaxd.. The lot is a coxner lot: and has an odd shape having a
frontage of 57.94 feet plus a radius and a back footage of 160 feet. The
angle is on the south lot line. The proposed house is 48 feet long plus a
24 foot attached garage. The house will face Alden Way with the driveway
possibly exiting onto 79th Way. The driveway would be very elose to the
intersection having to exit on either 79th Way or Alden Way.
Mr. Belisle said the buyer that Mr. Johanson has for the lot, wants the house
-positioned as progosed. To position the house this way would save some trees,
as this is a wooded lot, and would also preserve the back yard. The grade of
the lot raises toward the back of the lot. To face the house toward 79th Way,
which cauld be done without variances, would involve removing part of this bank.
To position the house to meet the side yard requirement, while facing toward
Alden Way, would also require xemaving part of the bank.
There is a vacant lot adjacent to the south, but there would be no prob�ems
in building on this lot whether the variance on Lot 1 was gr�nted or not.
MOTION by Harju to close the Public Hearing.
Seconded by Sondheimer. Upon a voice vote, th�re being no nays', the motion
• carried unanimously.
Mre Harju said the buyer has a specific floor plan that he wants to build on
this lot and it does not constitute a hardship just because this floor plan
will not fit on the lot. They could put a different style of house with the
same amount of �:oor area on the lot without needing variances.
Chairman P�Iinish asked if there would be any traffic problems with visibility
or backing out onto 79th Way?�
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Mr. Belisle said he didn't think there would be any problems.
Mr. Crawder stated he would be in favor of tabling this item as there were
only 3 members of the Board pxesent. He did no� have;any,objectians tn the
variance but he was concerned with the grade of the driveway.
MOTION by Harju to table this request until the Ma.rch 14, 1972 meeting to
enable the Board to discuss this variance with Mr..JohansoA as it appears
there are many solutions to the problem that can be proposed to make �he=
hause conform to the�Code.
Secanded by Growder. Upon a voice vote,-there being no nays, the`motion
carried unanimously.
2. A REQUEST F'OR A VARIANCE C
FOR 295 LIVING UNITS IN FI
SQUARE FEET x 295) TO 700,
BUILDING OF THE APARTI�IENT
BLOCK 2, PEA�RSON'S 1ST AnT
EAST RIVER ROAD N.E., FRI�
BUILDINGS, FROM 737,500 SQUARE FEET (2,500
FEET TO'ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE 5TH
BE LOCATED ON LOTS 1,2,3,4.,5, AND 6,
N PART OF U.S. LOT ��2, THE SAME BEING 7805
OTA. (REQUESfi BY FIVE SAI�iI7S DEVELOPMENT
Mr. Uick Fudali, co-owner of the apartment complex, was present to present
the request. Pictures of the complex and a plot plan were shown to familiarize
the members of the Board with the project. �
Mr. Fudali said (in summary) that the or-iginal owners of the land initially
conceived this project as a 294 or 295 unit complex. Prior to his purchase
of the property, he went over all of the minutes of the various committees
and Council meetings concerning this complex to make suxe the property was
adequate, as represented to him, to accommodate.294 or'�295 units. He then
read portions of these minutes to the Board, and all the minutes, even as
late as November of 1970, were covering a 294 or 295 unit complex.
The mistake in computing the land area was made by Dolan Engineering who made
the site plan for the original ownexs. When drawing up the site plan they
apparently took the acreage from the half section map, which included half of
the East River Road right of wag along the west side of the property. The
site plan dated July 26, 1970 that was-submittecl by the original owners to
the various committees and Council showed a land use schedule which stated
"actual land area 17 acres". This acreage was incorrect in that it did
include the right of way measurement. � '
The error in acreage was discovered when Five Sands Development was filing
the plat.
� Mr. Fudali explained to the Board that all of their contracts and orders
are all signed and ordered for a 295 unit complex. To cancel the contracts
and change the oxders, etc., at this time, to accommodate less than 295 units
would involve thousands of dollars.
The green area in this development is a conanon area far the whole complex.
Therefore no gr�en area wquld be taken away from this specific building by
granting the variance.
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Mr. Fu�li said they feel they have done more for the property than was
^ originally promised to the City. The complex has been very well accepted
by the peopTe and a].most all of the units that are finish�d are rented,
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Mr. Wins�ton Jacobson, 121- 79th Way N.E., stated he was not oppose�tl to the
complex but he did have a c.omplaint on the berm that is used to screen the
, garages from view. He still has to look at the back of the garage and,the
front of cars because the bem►was not completed as it:was agreed to be.
He said he understood that the entire berm was to be 5 feet high and it is
not. In some places it drops down to l- l� feet above the ground. The
initial berm comes,up to the eave of the garage and if the rest could be
that high it would be okay. •
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rlr. Fudali answered that he felt that this was not the right time to bring
up the berm, as it has nothing to do with the variance. He said he had
discussed this with the City Engineer and he had suggested ma.king the berm
flowing. He did not remember, at this time, whether the Ci�y had stipulated
it being 5 feet high.
Mr. Belisle stated the apartments are occupied undar a temporary certificate
of occupancy and a final certificate of.occupancy wi11 not be issued until,
all exterior development is completed according to the appraved plot plan.
If it was stipulated Chat the berm be 5 feet high, it wi11 have to be
corrected before this final certificate of occupancy is issued.
Mr. Fudali added they also have landscaping bonds on each building that are
still in effect.
Mrs, Jacobson stated the berm looks like it is as high as they are going to
make it as it has trees planted on top �f it but those trees are not going
�o hide the garages from view.
Mx. Fudali said he was warking with the City in getting fi11 and this could
be used if need be for the benn.
There was a discussion on other requirements, as parking, and it was brought
out that alI of these requirements have been complied with.
MOTION by Crowder to close the public hearing.
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Seconded by Harju. Upon a voice vate, fhexe being no nays, the motion caxried
unanimouslyo
Mr. Haxju stated there was indeed a hardship in the error that was made even
though it was not the City's error. The developer has pu.rsued this project
� with good intentions and this is a�reasonable request. Ae did �ympathize with
the people on the north who had the view of the garages and parking area but
if there was a mistake in building the berm, he was sure the Building Inspection
Department would work toward rectifying it.
Mr. Growder stated he agreed with 2�Ir. Harju.
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� Chairman Minish informed Mr. & Mrs. Jacobson that they could contact the
City Engineer if they wanted more information on this.
.. MOTI�N by Harju to recommend to the Council approval of the request since
there is a hardship due to the error that was made by the engineering
. company that drew up the site plan. The xequirements for the larger building
� have already been meti. It is just the total area that'not b�en met.'
Seconded by Crowder. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion
carried unanimously.
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A VARIANCE OF SECTION 45<053, 4A, TO REDUCE TH�
;EQU��EMENT FROM 35 FEET T0 15 FEET TO ALLOW THE
J., SLO�K 1,,._,�NNSBRUCK 5TH ADDITION, THE SAME BEING 5171.5175, SiZ=9, 5183, 5201,
��SZ AND 5275 ST. T,�KIER DRIVE� FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA, CREQUEST $Y RODNFY
BILT�MAN,,; INCORPORATED,,,_ 151 SILVER LAKE ROAD, NEW BRIGHTOIrt. ° MINNESOTA. )
Mr. John Bogucki was present to present the request.
Chairman Miz�ish explained this item had been tabled from the meeting of
February 15, 1972 to allow the applicant time to bring in sketches of the
tyge of houses that could be built on these:lots.
MOTT(I�T by Crowder to reopen'the public hearing. '
Seconded by Harju. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion
carried unanimously. .
Mr. Bogueki presented 5 sketches of what p�ssibly could be built on these:
lots. The final decision would have to be made by the buyer however, as
- to what he would want. .
There were seven property owners in the audience that came forward to look
at the sketches.
It was asked if the driveways are still going to be put together?
Mr. Bogucki answered that the garages could be together.but �they wouldn't
have to be. `
It was asked what would be done with the ponding area?
Mr. Bogucki answered that it would be up to the people who bought the land.
• They could possibly keeg the water at a higher level if they wan�ed to.
The main concerns of the property owners were; the back of the house being
just cement block, landscaping in the front yards, the blanket variance,
2 driveways together, and 1 property owner was against the garages being
ahead of the house.
Mr. Bogucki explained that he does not need a variance to build the house.
This will be set back the required`35 feet. The variance is only on setting
the garage ahead of the house> The house will be built the way the buyer
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- wauld want it. The houses will be higher in cost than the surrounding homes
because there will be more ma.terial necessary to build them. They wauld not
/"� devalue Che surrounding homes, in fact, they could possibly raise the value.
Mr. Belisle stated the Engineering Department had found the existing
elevations for each of these lots. The difference in elevations from the
existing curbing to 70 feet back onto the lots is b�tween 13 and 16 feet.
' Tl�e elevation was also found on the walk out basement on Lot 9, the lst
lot around the corner to the north, and the City will not allow the proposed
houses to be lower than this.
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MOTION by Harju to close the public hearing.
Seconded by Crowder. Upon a voice vo�e, there bein g no nays, the motion
carried unanimously.
Mr. Rarju stated his feelings have not changed since the last meetingo No
new information has been brought in. We don't have a particular house for
a specific lot to consider as there are no buyers. I think going on an
individual lot basis instead of a blanket variance would work out better.
I have no specific objection to moving the garages ahead of tha house.
Mr. Crowder stated he is opposed to a blanket variance. As far as adjusting
the garage setback, there is'a problem in the tremendous amount of fill
ne.eded if the garage was to be set back 35 feet. I have no qualms about
deviating the setback. It would be easier for the builder if he could get
a blanket variance and I-think we should give him some assurance that he
has a better than a 50 per cent chance of getting a variance if he was to
find a buyer and come up with a specific plan for a lot.
Mr. Bogucki asked if there would have to be a l�earing on each variance far
each lot when he found buyers for them.
� Chairman Minish answered yes. He added that if the Board recammended denial
� of the xequest tonight, and the Couneil'concurred, it would be 6 months before
this request could be brou;ht up again and this might hinder the developer
if he happened to find a buyer before then.
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MOTION by Crowder to table this request with the understanding that it can
be brought hack on a lot to lot basis.
Seconded by Harju.
unanimously.
ADJOURIV'MENT •
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Upon a voice vote, there being r_o nays, the motion carried
The meeting was adjourned by Chairman Minish at 9:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted
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� MARY HIN7j2 � .
Secretary
BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL MEETING OF FEBRUARY 24, 1972
/� The meeting was called to order by Chairman Zeglen at 8:00 P.M.
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MEMBERS PRESENT: Zeglen, Simoneau, Lindblad, Tonco, White
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
' OTHERS PRESENT: Hank Muhich - Chief Building Inspector
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MQTICIN by Tonco to approve the minutes of the February 10, 1972
meeting as written.
Seconded by Lindblad.
carried unan£mously.
1. CONSIDERATION OF A RE
EXISTING RESTAURANT F.
FEET OF THE NORTH 726
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion
UEST TO CONSZ
CILITY LOCATE
CON AND REMODEL
PART OF THE SOUTH
UARTER OF THE NOR
QUAR'�ER OF SECTIQN 12, T-30, R�24, DESCRIBED AS FOLLOWS: BEGIIVNING AT
A POINT ON THE NORTH LINE OF SAID SOUTH 396 FEET OF THE NORTH 726 FEET,
A DISTANCE OF 653.27 FEET WEST OF THE NORTHEAST CORNER THEREOF; THENCE
CONTINUE WEST ON SAID NORTH LINE A DISTANCE OF 288 FEET; THENCE SOUTH
TO A POINT OF IN�ERSECTION WITH THE SOUTH LINE OF SAID SOUTH 396 FEET
OF THE NORTH 726 FEET WHICH POINT IS DISTANCED 6JEST 949.45 FEET FROM
THE SOUTHEAST CORNER THEREOF; THENCE EAST ALONG SAID SOUTH LINE OF
SAID SOUTH LINE OF SAID SOUTH 396 FEET OF THE NORTH 726 FEET, A DIS-
TANCE OF 288 FEET; THENCE NvRTH IN A STRAIGHT LINE, A DISTANCE OF .
396 FEET TO THE POINT OF BEGINNING; SUBJECT TO A ROAD EASEMENT OVER
THE NORTHERLY 50 EEET THEREOF; CONTAINING 2.62 ACRE MORE OR LESS;
SU$JECT TO EASEMENT 20 FOOT WIDE TO MINNEAPOLIS GAS COMPANY, SEP-
TEMBEP. 2, 1964; SUBJECT TO ROAD EASEMENT TO THE CITY OF FRTDLEY,
MARCH 25, 1966, THE SAME BEING 1160 FIRESIDE DRIVE N,E „ FRIDLEY,
MINNESOTA. (REQUEST BY FIRESIDE RICE BOWL, 1160 FIRESIDE DRIVE N.E.,
FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 55432.) .
Mr. Glenn Wong was present to present the request to construct an
'additian to enlarge the kitchen and install new restrooms`. Mr. Wong
said they have a lack of kitchen space and they need to improve their
facilities. They will try to beautify the entire exterior of the
building. Ae said he would appreciate any comments the Building Stand-
ards Subcou�ittee wanted to make. Mr. Wor.g said they were extending
the kitchen wall 16 to 18 feet. TY..ey are evening the outside walls
for a better appearance. The new kitchen wi11 have a quarry tile floor
and ceramic tile walls. Mr. Muhich said he had to cove all corners of
the ceramic tile. Mr. Tonco asked Mr. Wong if he was familiar with
cement blocks with a porcelain finish that could be used in place of
ceramic tile. As the addition will be constructed of cement blocks,
with a stucco finish, he thought Mr. Wong might want to check on this
material_ Mr. Wong said the kitchen would have all stainless steel
,equipment. The plan calls for a six foot door to facilitate delivery
and repracement of equipment. He said they were putting new joists
under the kitchen floor to ensure the floor was strong enough to hold
all the equipment.
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The Fridley Health inspector and the members of the Board felt the
^ entrances to the restrooms are poor, but there is nothing in the code
that`says they have to be different. Mr. Wong said he would see if
they could be changed but he might have to remove a booth. Mr. Tonco
said he didn't want him to Ioose any seating capacity because of>the
� change.
Mr. White asked what arrangements they had for disposal of trash and
garbage. Mr. Wong said they have a dumpster for trash and the garbage
was picked up daily by a private party. Mr. Tonco asked Mr. Muhich if
there had been any complaints recently. Mr. Muhich said he didn't know
of any at this time. Mr. Tonco said if the City received any complaimts
we taould require a screened area for trash.
Mr. Wong said they would be doing some painting an the inside and he was
quite sure he would be installing a sprinkling system. As previously
stated, the new addition will have a stucco exterior, and the existing
building will be resplashed to match.
Mr. Tonco asked about landscaping. Mr. Wong had some colored drawings
with him with evergreens drawn on the plan. Mr. Tonco said he had to
present a landscaping plan showing the size and species of plantings.
Mr: Muhich said they were going to landscape around the existing sign also.
Mr. Tonco asked Mr. Wong if he had any kind of barrier between the park-.
ing lot and the green area of his home. Mr. Wong said he had some small
� posts. Mr. Simoneau suggested he install some type of railing between
the posts., Mr. Wong asked if he should put up a fence. Mr. Tonco said
the fence would have to be 5 feet from the property line so the cars
_ wouldn�t damage the fence. Mr. Tonco said it usually is a requirement
to have poured concrete curbing around blacktop areas but as the black-
top was already there, they would allow Mr. Wong to use precast curbing
along with the posts, if he wanted to use this as a barrier to protect
the property around his home. Mr. Muhich said if Mr. Wong �hould decide,
at a future time, to expand the parking area he would be required to
�install concrete curbing araund the blacktop area. Mr. Tonco said we
require a 10 foot typical radius on the driveway entrances also.
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Mr. Lindblad asked about security lighting.' Mr. Wong said they have a
light in the back of the building, two night watch lights and canopy
lights. Mr. Muhich said it was quite bright even when the restaurant
was closed.
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Mr. Muhich said that three sets of plans, including structural, mechanical,
and electrical drawings are needed before processing can start on a
building permit.
MOTION by Tonco to recommend approval to the City Council the request
to construct and addition and remodel the existing restaurant facilities
with the following stipulations:
1. Coving tile on floor and walljunetures of the ceramic ti1e.
2. Some type of curbing or guard to protect green area at
1150 Fireside Drive. -
3. Have Landscaping plan ready to submi_t to the Council.
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.Buildin� Stand;rds DesiQn Control Meeting of February_24 1972 Pa�e 3
Seconded by White. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the rnotion carried
unanimoi�s ly .
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CDERATION OF A REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT AN OFFICE SHOP AND WAREHOUSE
)ING LOCATED ON LOT 19 (EXCE
147 74 FEET OF LOT 18, AUDI
GENTRAL AVENUE N,E., FRi_DLE
�GRt1PH COMPANY, 782 29TH AVE
HE EAST 190 FEET THEREOF;) ��E
S SUBDIVISION ��129, THE SAME BEING
INNESOTA 55432 (REQUEST BY AETNA
S ,E. , MINNE�POLIS, MINI�IESOTA 55414;
Everett Swanson was present to present the request to construct a
20,000 square f oot office, shop and warehouse building to be used for
a commercial grinting plant. 1,200 square feet wi11 contain the office,
6,000 square feet will be used for storage of paper, and 12,800 square__
feet for the shop. The building will be 200 feet wide on 73rd Avenue and
100 feet in length, with SO foot setbacks .
There are some existing structures on the property. There is a capped
b'asement Mr. Swanson would like to use for storage of files and office
equipment. This basement is tiled and paneled and so is usable. There
is also a small cement block building and an old structure that probably
should be torn down. Mr. Swanson said he didn't know where these struc-
tures were located in relation to where he wants to place the new build-
ing so what he can use and what has to be town down has not been deter-
mined. Mr. Simoneau said if he planned to use the capped basement a
better entrance would have to be provided. �
Mr. Swanson said he employs about 45 people and didn't want the present
^ parking area as large now as it is shown on the plan. Mr. Muhich checked
the Code for parking requirements and it was determined that Mr. Swanson
could reduce the parking area, until future needs required more parking.
- Upan discussion, the Board decided Mr. Swanson could use precast curbing
at the termination of the present parking area until such tir:ze as he
needs the entire parking area and then poured concrete curbing would be
required. The balance of the blacktop area and driveway will have.to
have poured concrete curbing now. The East side of the driveway and
the East and North sides of the parking area have to be fenced in accord-
ance with the Zoning Ordinance.
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Mr. Tonco raised the question if a bituminous surface would be heavy
enough for the trucks delivering paper supplies.
Mr. Lindblad asked wHat arrangEment there would be for trash disposaL
Mr. Swanson said all refuse is stored inside the building. 50 per cent
of the pager is sold for recycling and 50 percent is given away.
Mr. Swanson said chemical;;,ink, and other similar supplies would be kept
in a locked storage room. Mr: Zeglen asked how big the printing presses
were and Mr. Swanson said the largest was 50 feet long.
Mr. �onca said the glans called for an all concrete block building with
brick facing on the West and South sides. He tol.d Mr. Swanson that all
exterior block had to be painted.
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Mr. Muhich told Mr. Swanson that the contractor he hired would have to
be licensed in Fridley. If he wan't already licensed this would Cake
approximately two weeks. We also need three sets of plans which inclu�e
engineer approved structural, mechanical, and electrical drawings and
3 plot plans with landscaping. Mr. Swanson said he thought he would put
in a sprinkling system.
MOTION hy White to recammend to the City Council concept approval only
of the request to construct an office, shop and warehouse.
Seconded by Simoneau. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously.
3. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY APPROVAL OF PHASE I(FIVE (5)
FOUR UNIT QUADROMINIUMS) OF THEIR CONDOMINIUM PORTION OF THE TOTAL MUL-
TIPLE UNIT COMPLEX LOCATED ON PART OF OUTLOT H, INNSBRUCK NORTH ADDITION
THE SAME BEING IN THE 1600 BLOCK OF INNSBRUCK NORTH ADDITION, FRIDLEY
MINNESOTA 55432. (REQUEST BY VIEWCON, INC., 5901 BROOKLYN BLVD,,
MINNEAPOLIS� MINNESOTA 55428.)
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Mr. Dave Phillips and Mr. Kenneth Nordaune were present to present the
; request. Of the 850 unit density allowed in this area, approximately
320 units will be quadrominiums.. Mr. Phillips said the difference be-
tween the regular townhouses and the quadrominiums was that in a town-
house you own the land the townhouse is built on and in a quadrominium
you just own the air space. This is because the tuck-under garages
for the four units are only under two units. Two units will have a full
basement and the units that have the garages will have half basements.
Two units will have patio areas on the ground, and two units will have
patio decks over the garages. Mr. Muhich said he would prefer precast
decking as a fire separation between the garage and the living quarters
above, but Mr. Phillips has a letter from the State Building Inspection
Department where, in the judgement of Chester J. Zimniewicz, P.E., all
that is required between the two occupancies is a one-hour occupance
separation.
Mr. Simoneau asked if the real estate tax basis would be different
from a regular townhouse. The Board asked the stcretary to get this .
information.(Mr. Mervin Herrmann, Assessor, said they would be taxed ..
by value, the same as the townhouses.) `
Mr. Nordaune said they already had units like this in Inver Grove and
Brooklyn Par.k. He said each unit of four would have four heating
systems with a 12" C�ass B common flue.
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Mr. Tonco asked about the exterior finish. Mr. Nordaune said it would
be texture 111 siding over 5/8'' plyw�od. He sazd the buildings might
vary in color but they would all be conpatible. The roof would be
composition shingle, the same ason their other units. There will be
cedar trim. .
Mr. Tonco asked a.bout soundproofing. Mr. Nordaune said a11 party walls
^ would have two separate walls with two separate studs and two separate
plates._ Each wall will have double Type X sheetrock. This givesa FBC
'rating ot 52.
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Mr. Tonco asked about the slope of the patio decks and was told they'd �
/`�c be sloped for dxainage. . �
Mr. Lindblad asked about trash disposal. Mr. Phillips saicl the bylaws �
' of the association stated that all containers had to be stored in the
garage except the day of pick-up.
��� MOTION,by Tonco to recoBnnend to the City Council approval of the pre-
liminaryn plans for Phase I(five (5) four unit quadrominiums) of the �
condominium portion of the total multiple unit complex. �
Seconded by Lindblad. Upon_a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion f
carried unanimously. '�
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OFFICIAL NOTICE
' . CITY AF FRIDLEY
PUBLIC HEARING
_ BEFORE THE
. PLANNING CQMMISSION
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TO�WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
Notice is hereby given that the Planning Commission of the
City af Fridley will meet in the Council Chambers of the City Hall at
8:00 P.M. Wednesday, March 8, 1972 to consider the following matter:
. A request for a Special Use Permit, SP �72-01, by y
__,:._ Patricia H. Grassini, per City Code, Section 45.051,
__. 3-D, for a two family dwelling in an R-1 District on
that part of Lot 6, Auditor`s Subdivision No. 22
described as follows: Commencing at a point on the
_. __ South line, distant 145 feet West of the Southeast
� corner thereof; thence West along said South line 82
_.__ feet; thence North parallel with the East line of said
� Lot 6, 190 feet; thence EasC parallel to said South ,
line 34.35 feet; thence North 110 feet along a line
which if extended would intersect the North line of said
Lot 6 at a point 135 feet East of the Northwest corner
.. thereof; thence East parallel with the South line of
_. said Lat 6, 47.65 feet; thence South to the point of
•..._, .. beginning. Subject to the rights of the public over the
� South 30 feet thereof for street purposes, in S� Section 13.
Generally located at 1627 Rice Creek Road. �
_ Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above matter
may be heard at this meeting.
Publish: February 23, 1972
- March 1, 1972
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QLIVER R. ERICKSON
CHAIRMAN
PLANNING CO1�iISSION
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Planning Co�nission
City of Fridley �
6431 University Ave. N.E. �
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. Gentlemen:
Please continue the request for a Special Use Permit,
- SP �72-01 by Patricia ii. Grassini, on part of Lot 6, Auditor`s
� Subdivision No. 22, to request a two famiiy dwelling in an
� R-1 district per City Code 45.051, 3-b, until further notice
by the undersigned.
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1627 Rice Creek Road - Fridley
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PIANNING AND ZONINC FORM
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Street I,ocetf.ou of Prop�rty IG' �°� ,�tz.�
Rezoning
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Variance
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Appraual of Final
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Vacatioa8
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•i,�gal D�sc�iption of.Property Part of Lot 6, A.S. ��22: See certificate of
surve for legal description. •
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Pxeaent Zo�ing Cla�sffication _ � - �
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8xisting Uas of the Propexty ��,.. � 4.%�ri� ��.c.>�;'� _.._�;1iv► t" i.� ��L�y�rz�' .
propo$ed Zoning Claasification, SQecial Use, Variance or ather requeaE
F r�w� � �' +•;� �. l i .L? �, .
De�oc=ibe bxie#ly the Tjrpe of Use and the Improveca�nt proposed
City Code, Section 45.051, 3-D.
�cre�g� of Pro�er�y
i�m• t�� Pr�m�at Applicst�t Previously Sought to Rezone� plgt� Obtain a Lot Split,
Obtaia a Vari.$nce or Spocial Uee Permit an tfie Subject Site or Part of It?
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l`1 `�itmt taee Beque�ted_ _ Fee Enclo�ed $ o�C�, CJ �
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SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP 4#72-01: Public Hearing Notices Mailed Feb. 17, 1972
(Before P1an. � Com. ) - -
" Patricia H. Grassini
• Part of L. 6, A.S. �i22 ,.. ,
:Andy Wargo
1621 Rice Creek Rd. �
Fridley . �
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LaMoine Follingstad �
1626 Rice Creek Rd. I
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Village of New Brighton '
803 Fifth Ave. N.W.
New Brighton 551I2
Ted Gonsior
1601 Rice Creek Rd.
Fridley _
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1631 Rice Creek Rd.
Fridley
Patricia H. Grassini
1627 Rice Creek Rd.
Fridley
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The uaderai�n�d understands that: (a) A li$t of All residenta and crwnexs of pro- '
perty withia�300 feet must be atteched Co �
th�s application.
. (b) This application mdst be •igned by eIl
- � oo�ners of thz property; or an explaaatioa '
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the names s`nd �3dre8aes of all reeidents `
�nd propert� owr�er� of property within JOQ �
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to the undersi�ned.
Reeideats and O�aners of �roperty within 300 feet:� i
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A sketch of proposed property and stxucture most be dra��n an the b�ck of this
1`orm oY attached, shawing the fol.lowing; 1. Notth Direction
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3. Dimensions af Qroperty, progosed
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__._.. CITY OF FRIDLEY
_ .. PUBLIC HEARING . ,.
� . . " BEFQRE TH�
_ PLANNING COMMISSION
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
Notice is hereby given that the Planning Commission of the
City of Fridley will meet in the Council Chamber of the City Hall at
� 8:40 P.M. on Wednesday, March 8, 1972 to consider the following
.. _ matter:
A request for a revision to the Special Use Permit
_..:_._ for Social Dynamics, Inc. (Learning Tree Day Care
� Center) SP ��71-09, to enlarge the site to include
_ __.the.Easterly 45 feet of Lot 3, Block 1, Oak Hill
r� :. _ Addition.per Section 45.051, 3F, Fridley City Code, ,
. and to permit the construction and operation of
_ day nursery and learning center in an R-1 District.
Generally located on 53rd Avenue abutting the West
boundary line of Target Store, Inc.
- Anyone desiring to be heard with reference ta the above
matter may be heard at this meeting. �
OLIVER R.�ERICKSON
CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Publish: February 23, 1972
r�ch 1, 1972
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Dear Property Owner:�
Enclosed please find a hearing notice for the expansion
of the Learning Tree Day Care Center proposed to be built on
53rd Avenue N.E,
They are proposing to use the Easterly 45 feet of Lot 3,
Block 1, Oak Hill Addition, for outside recreation and open space.
The Planning Commission hereby invites you to attend th�s �
meeting and will hear your comments with respect to this request.
OLIVER R. ERICKSON
Chairman
Planning Commission
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
MINNESOTA
YLANNING AND ZONING FORM
Number SAV �72-01
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TYPE OF REQUEST
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APPLICANT'S SIGNATURE ;:.�-�.v�-_���� J� �`'ir�'-
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Addrese �' 7 � � �.� n4' �`/L� �� �
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Telephone Number -��' �' - ? � i _�
PROPERTY OWNER' S SIGNATURE ,��I�,�� J(i:
Addxesa'
Rezoning
Special Use Permit
Veriance
Lot Splits
Approval of Pre-
liminery P1sC
Approval of Final
Plat
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Vacationa
Telephone Nuirber Other
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Street Location of Property �il-''�l'�-',�-' 0� _5 � ��'� n-'��- (�.ying between
YiVVL�.p i Q�LY �.'. VGYLF 11111 L1baY1M1V11� .
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pre$ent Zoning Classification
Existing Use of the Property ��'�7� �/Z'�� ' . -
Proposed Zoning Cla�aitication, Special Use, Variance or other request
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Has the Preaent Applicant Previously Sought to Rezone, Plat, Obtain a Lot Split,
Obtain a Variance or Special Use Permit on tbe Suhject Site or Part of It?
/ L'�C'' When? �^
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Date Filed Date of Hearing
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Ntunber SAV �72-01
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The undereigned understands that: (a) A list of all residents and owners af pro-
perty �iithin 300 feet must be attached to
this applicat£on.
(b) This application m�st be signed by all
owners of tha property, or an explanation
' �iven why thfs is not the case.
, (c) Responsibiliry for any defect in the pro-
. ceedings �esul.tin� from the failure to list
the names E`nd a�dre�ses of all residents
�nd propert� oo�r.er� of property withi.n 300
feet of the prop�•rty in question, belongs
to the undcrsi�;ned.
Residents and Owners of �roperty within 300 feet:�
PE QiJ5 ADDRESS
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p sketch of proposed property and structure musc be draom on the back of this
form or attached, showing the follotoing; 1. Norrh Direction
. 2. Locafioa of Proposed Structure on lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed
� atructure� and front and side set-backs.
. 4. Street Names
S. Location �nd use of adjacent exfsting
� buildings (within 30U feet).
The undersigned hereby declares that a21 the facts and representatians stated ia
this apglication sre true and correct. �
DATE February 7, 1972 SIGi3ATURE �r„�, �--��L�'-iCE �.�_����t�"
(APPLICANT) `�
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R.�MARKS :
AUDRESS( ES � J ��1�� _
Street City Zip Gade
Street City Zi.p Cod�
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or Exact Street Address ( IF ANY) `�� `�� a'�� 7.�.5� C E��3�rc+�17�rY. �L,
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Reason for LQt Split:
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The undersigned hereby declares that all the fa�ts and
representations stated in this application are true and
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BF.�,pW �'OR- CITY USE ONLY (SeA r�ve..qe eid�,I�'or additioxa,�,l 'i�txt�.��3� :;
PT.A�'S & SIIBS: Date pf Consideration -
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PT�NNI27G C(�IISSIOI�': Date of Coneideration -
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CITY COIINCIL: Date of Co.nsideration --
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STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCOrf�iITTEE rIEETING FEBRUARY 9, 1972 7:OQ P.M. PAGE I
The meeting was called to order by Chairman'Schmedeke at 7:05 P.M. _
, RQLL CALL: .
Members Present: Schmedeke, Meissner, Engdahl., French, Farster �
Members-Absent: None
Others Present: Darrel Clark, Engineering Assistant -
.. '� 1._ CONTINUED LOT SPZIT REQUEST, L.S. ��71-08, BY CLIFFORD THOE: East 125 feet
of Lot 18, Block 2, Central View Manor.
: � Mr. Clifford Thoe was present. "
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Ghairman Schmedeke explained that Mr. Thoe had been before the Subcommitt�e-on
June lb, 1971. This request reminded him of a similar situation in his own exper-
. ience. The City Manager, at the time he was going to build on his three lats,
suggested the home be put on the Northwest corner of the three lots. Afterwards
he wished that he had put the building where he wanted to instead of taking advice.
�^He felt this could be a similar situatic�n. The Subcommittee knows that this parcel
/"'\ does,not meet the area requirements of a C-1 district even before splitting, it
• has only 22,000 square feet. ,
� . Mr. Thoe said that he was in€ormed he would hava to retain an easement for
sewer and water to serve the house; however, the seF�er is in the sCreet and he is
hooked up to the sewer. The water he gets from the station. He used to have a
we11 that supplied both the house and station. When water came through, he hooked
up to`the service station. He has been paying the water bill for both the statioa
�and the house.
Mr. Schmedeke said that if the split went through, Mr. Thoe would probably
. • wanfi to have a separate hookup for the home. �
tir. Clark said he did not think it would be harcl to get a water easement along
the Western side of the service statian up to 732 Avenue. He would mention that
Pir. Thoe �aould have to get a certificate of survey for the exact location of the
house and service station.- Ho�aever, as it is expensive to get a certificate of
survey, the Planning Commi-ssion may not require it until the Council makes a
decision.
Mr. Meissner said the driveway was discussed, but not solved. He asked rfr.
, Thoz how wide a driveway was he anticipating and how much room did he actually
have?
Mr. Thoe answered that the house is 24 feet from the East line and he would
^ have a 1Q foot wide driveway. The driveway coul.d also be put on the �dest side
of the house. The people who used to live in the house drove out that way. It
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was just a ma�tter of moving the fence. After the exact location a£ the lo't line
was determined, the fence could be replaced. ,
Regarding the address, Mr. Thoe said there were tGro mail boxes outside of the
filling station noc�. The house would have a 73rd Avenue address and the filling
stat.ion Central Avenue.
Mr. Schmedeke said consideration should be given that Mr. Thoe is the fee
�owc�er and the application for the lot split is the way he wants to go. He felt
that Mr. Th oe should keep a 10 foot easement on the West side of,the station for
water.
Mr. Clark summarized the comments as follows: A IO foot easement should be
retained either on the Southerly part of the property or the Westerly part. The
size of the Iot would be approximately 70'x100'.
MOTION by Meissner, seconded by French, that the P1ats & Subdivisions-Streets &
Utilit�.es Subcomn�ittee recommend approval to the PZanning Comrnission of the Lot
SpZit Request, L.S. #71-08, by Clifford Thoe, in accordance with the latest drawing,
dated February 4, I972, presented this evening in the Agenda creatinq a residential
.. Iot approximately 70'x100' with the recommendatian that the owner retain an ease-
ment for water access either to 73'� Avenue or Central Avenue at his discretion
and �hat he be required to get a survey prior to final approval because the house
and stafion are going to be close to the new lot Zine. Upon a voice vote, a1l
vating aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Thoe was informed that the Planning Commission would hear his reques't at
the March 8, 1972 meeting. -• -
2. REQUEST FOR A VACATION: SAV ��72-02, BY JOSEPH A. LAURENT: To vacate-the-
. Easterly 4.5 £eet of the Westerly 15 feet of Lot 5, Block 1, Swanstrom's
Court Addition.
Copies of the letter sent to Mr. Laurent on February 1, I972 written by the
Engineering Departrnent were given the members. The letter was in response to
possib le vacation of a storm sewer easement adjacent to Mr. Laurent's home. The
existing easement was 15 feet wide with a 12 incli pipe pZaced on the center. The
p�pe is>between 6 and 62 feet deep. The Engineering Department and Public Works
staff recommend that the top of the footing for the proposed garage would be at
the same elevation as the bottom of the storm sewer.
Mr. French coramented that the building would be roughZy two feet from the
cente?: of the pipe. If the pipe had to be dug up, the deep footing would prevent
the risk of the ground collapsing. He could not see that he would have any
objections. He felt the chance of having to dig up that pipe would be rather
small.
Mr. Clark said that rir. Laurent could take bids or estimates to see if it
would be a feasible thing to do. Normally, a reinforcement is not put in. This
/1 request has been discussed with both Public tti'or�:s an� the Engineerin� staff. They
felt there would be no txoubl.e going doc:�i to the pi_pe. I'robably just the poYtion
of the easement next to �he house would be vacated. The manhole to the �dest and
behin3 the house is 22 feet at,�ay and is four feet in diameter. It is f ar enough
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� Mr. Meissner said he felt the purpose of the Subcommittee was one of fact
� _.- fi,nding, and th� real action is taken at the Planning Commission and City Council
level, therefore he made the follor�ing motion:
MOTION by Meissner,:seconded by Pierce, that the Plats & Subdivisions-
Streets & Uti3ities Subcommittee send the proposed p1at, P.5. #71-02, BriardaZe,
. b� MiZ1er Homes, Inc., being a repZa,t of Lots 1, 2, 3, B1ock 3 and Outlots #1
and #2, Cochran's Addition to the Planning Commzssion wi thout recDmmenda tion
pointinq out to the Plannirig Connnissian the problems of street grades, street
dedi cati ons, storm and sanitary sewer are present as discussed in the 9ubcom-
•mzttee minutes and point out that five lots and one interior 1ot do not meet the
platting ordinance requirements. Upon a voice vote, Meissner and Schmedeke _
voting aye, Pierce, Crowder and Engdahl voting nay, �he MOTTON FAILED.
Mr. Crowder said the Subcommittee was there to serve a purpose. They have
seen the site of the proposed plat. If they feel more facts caould be beneficial,
that is what they should ask for. If they felt the facts are adequate, the
memb ers should base the decisioT on that. He would go along with Mr. Meissner
but he would request that he reword the motion so that it either spells out
what we approve or disapprove.
Mr. Meissner said that his reasoning was it seemed to him their committee
is more or less a fact finding one. There are a number of problems he would
' - like to clear up and a public hearing before the P1.anning Commission is already
scheduled.
� Mr. Pierce said that Mr. Crowder's testimony made him change his mind, Ae
did not have any objections as far as the lot sizes go. He recognizes all the
� other problems, but , basically, the lot sizes are O.K. if the probl.ems can be
solved.
1�OTTON by Crowder, seconded by Engdahl, that the P1ats & Subdivisions-
.. Streets & iltilities Subcommi.ttee recommend approval of the preliminary plat,
P.S. #71-02 and Vacation #71-03, by Miller Nomes involvinq Lots 1, 2 and 3,
and OUtlot #1 and-Outlot #2, Cochran's Addition, based on satisfactory so1u-
tions to the fo2lowing problems: Proposed gradinq in the Preliminary P1at
raises unsolved questions regarding storm sewer, sanitary sewer, street
dedications and possible condemnations of adjoining 1and; also pointing out
five corner Iots do not meet the minimum standards and one interior Iot, Lot 9,
BZock 2, does nat meet the ordinance standards but are acceptab.Ie as they stand
on the proposed pZat, Briardale, drawn by SubL�rban Engineering� znc., May 1971.
Upon a voice vote, Crowder, Engdahl and Pierc� voting aye, Schmedeke voting
Nay, and Meissner abstaining, the motion carried. � _
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3. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. 4�71-08, BY CLIFFORD J. THOEt East 125 feet of
Lot 18, Block 2, Central View Manor.
Mr. Thoe explained Lot 18 has 175 footage on Old Central Avenue and is
125 €eet deep on 73rd Avenue and 732 Avenue. The residence is on the Southwest
corner of the lot, and has a double garage. He wants to split off the resi-
dential area which is 70'x103' leaving the rest of the lot for the service
station. The filling station would have 175 €eet along Central Avenue and
125 feet on 73� Avenue. He left 55 feet on 73rd Avenue adjacent to the
residential area for the station to give him enough parking. If the residential
1ot would not come up to the City requirements, he would take the parking area
from the station and bring it up to almost 9,000 square feet. The garage is
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at the Northeast corner of the lot adjacent to the fillin�, station grogerty �n$
he drives into the garage from across the filling:station property. His house
faces- Central Avenue. The neighbor to the West has `a fence about two £eet iRto
his lot. •
Mr. Clark said the property is z�uued C-1, and being C-I under the pre$ent
ordinance, the lot does not meet the present code. The house has beea� there f4x
22 years.
Mr. Thoe said the �ellaw who is leasing the station now, wanta to bny the
land snd wauld like to buy the house, but can't swing-both.
Mr. Crawder stated he felt uneasy about taking a commercial lot al�eady
C.ao $taalX to meet preseAt requirements and aplitting off p�'t o£ it for a R-I
use. He felt that one day the entire parcel would be one co�caercial site. He
as�ed'what the description �ould be like. Darrel Clark said it wou].d be the
South�lQ3 feet and West 70 feet of the East 125 feet of Lot 18, B1ock Z, Gen�xal
View Manor for the residential lot.
Mr. Meissnex wondered if the garage could be moved and then split the �.o�.
fle felt the requeat was somewhat questionable as to the feasibility of this
split.
Mr. Thoe said the station is 40'x60' and the station agent ia going tp put
in �nother pump. ae has roam to build out to the back.
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Mr. Schmedeke said that if the property owner figures this is what he i�
going to do, he did not want to deny him this.privile�e. But Mr. Thoe should
have a way into the double garage."
Mr. Clark said it mtght be diffi�ult to get a�or��age on tY�e _�ou�e� idf.th
the house in C-1 property, it'is a-non-conforffii.ng use.
Mr. Crawder said he could not see, basically, creatin� two lots which �re
substan�ard. The ttse of this lot should be sin�ular. Because of the znning,
it would not meet co�ercial requir�nents. '
It was mentioned he would go ta the Bo:rd of App�ale for � variance. The
petitianer hae to psove �ahy be has to h�ve the vari�ance. The property to the
North is light indu�tri�al, to the E�t i� co�rcial aad li�ht industrial Sout�i
of 73rd Avenue, the lot to the West i� coa�nerci�l �nd further Wesi li�i►t ind�-
tria� and to the South it is c�rcial and light industrial.
• l�r. Cras�r3er �ai.d he still did not think he c�a� convinced it would be a
gvod idea beca�e, by �plittin� the lat, you wouid be cre$ting too many pro'�1�.
�s ��s no� cert�n that the entix� lot tnigiit be wvrtii a lot more tfi� t��c� �r�r-
cele�. B�cauae it is zonc$ cc�Arci�l aa�d cremtin� � resid�n�ial lot, he dtd not
beliave iC;w� in the best interests of the City of Fridley. H� asked if �tr.
Thoe could loo�C a little harder to ge� a buyer for the antire lot.
t�. Tha� stai.d he h�d oa�ly on� �uq�x. He w� th,e le,�aee. 1fie,ce is no c�c:.'
/'1 to t� to eos��� e}:5�, aa� h� ht� e five pe�r led^�se �n�t o��ic�. A� f�� �
eellin� to �so,�c�� els�:. it was out of the qu�stian. Se �*�s told thst if t2ns
lot ��rs split, t�o t�s� aa th� t�ao p�rc�is �aouZd be �^,�r� th�- cm ane.
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" Ci�airman Schmedeke said he had meationed it at the Planning Caganission �evel
of which he is a member and is loaking out for the benefit of the City, but when
a problem like this comes up, the property owner coaes first, then the neighbor,
and then the City. The City will be here long after we are gone, but these '
peogle will not and the neighbors will not. You shauZd look at the property
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through the eyes of the present awner.
Mr. Crowder sai.d he;�aas more interested in the long range �spects o£ the
corner. We are loo3�i.ng at it for tod�y. Because ,of the City, we should be
looking at it that way.
Chairman Schmedeke said.that the Subcomtai.ttee is not asked to change the
zoaing. Eventually the property could be sold in a complete package regard�.>ess
of the Iot split.
"' Darrel Clark said Mr. Thoe'would have to get an easement for sewer and
, water�across the filling station property, as the house is served from there
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Mr. Crowder said he would like a motion to continue the lot split and
" requesf the petitioner to go back and consider moving the 1ot line clo�er to
the pt�¢ps, some thinking as to easement for sewer and water, sorse idea how to
get the driveway easement from the station out to 73'� Avenue �xit, to go back
and put these thoughts on another piece of paper and.come back.
Mr. Thoe said he cauld change those lines,no�. He could put in anything
else they mi�ht request.
I�TION by Crowder, seaonded by Meissner, that the FZats & Subdivisions-
Streets � Utiliti�s Subcommittee continue the 1ot sF1it request, L.S. #71-08 by
Cli fford J. Thoe, for the East 125 feet of Lot 18, Block 2, Central t►iew �anar,
until suclh tfine as the petitioner comes back with a drawing indicat�ng so�e
of the things the Subcammittee talked about such as ease�ents relati ve to �ater
�nd sewer, placement of drives,�ay, exact location where 1ot line would be. Upcan
a voice vo�e, a11 voting aye, the �tion carried t�nanimously.
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1�OTION by Pisrce, seconded by Engdahl, that the Su�co�itte� �tinq be
adjaurned at 10:45 P.1�. Upon a vo3ce vot�, a1I vo�ing aye, the motion carried
tu�anf urou�3g.
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APPLICANT`8 SIGNATURE �t �
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Telephone Number -�; ' :� < ,- �,} �
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PROP'�RTY �t1ER' S SICNATLTRE �... :\ -1 . ,� �• -�
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Variance
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Approval of Final
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Vscatione
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Street Locotioa of Property ���'� �K� WOOt! �%QU,�T
•La�al Description oi.Property �.�1' � �`OG1C t ���ti��Na�3
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pceaeat Zoning Claasffication Q• �
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, 8xiating Uae of the Property S►IN4�� ��31dV��t,.M �w��. ________,.
proposed Zoning Claseification, Special Use, Variance or ot6er requeat
L��C.� �d�T OF A�@..A1�!�G �L V'tiLiiil� �W!'.5� 11�1��'� ��•���
De�cribe bztefly the 1�rpe o� Use and the Improvement Proposed
C A'i o t���a. C�a� �c t�
/dcre�ge of groperty .Lli,,�Ga 5� �•
�1�� the prt�sent Applicant Previoualy SoughC to Aezone� p1at, Obtain a Lot Sp13t�
Obtaia a Vaxi.ance or Specisl Use Permit on the Subject Site or Purt of It4�_
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,• i�ttat Wa� Requ�ated Fee Encloeed $�o.f� '
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The uadersign�d underst8nds that: (a) A list of all residents ar►d o�wners o! pro-
perty withfn 300 feet must be atteched to
this application.
_ �b) This appl.ication must be ti�ed by sll
o�iners of thz property� or aa`explan�tioa
-�, � given why this is not the caa�.
. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the pro-
�� . eeedings tesulting from the failure ta list
the n�mes a`�d a3dresses of all residents
and propert� o��ner� of property Within �00
feet of tbe prop�xCy in question, 6elot�gs
to the undersi�ned.
Resideats and Owners of �roperCy � :� AO'3AC.$,��u'� '� �.��;tp1R,+�i'j
PERSQt�5 ADDRESS
�_ -./% ,�.i`,✓yL''�-`� -"�� 1300 N.E. Hwy. 4�10A - Fridley
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A sketch of proposed property aad structure must be drs�rn on the back oi this
�otcm ot attached, shawing the following: 1. Nosth Directian
2. I.oc��ioa of Proposed Structure on lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed
� . �tructurp. and front and side set-backo.
. 4. Street Names �
� S. Location �nd use of adjacent existing
� buildinga (within 300 feet).
T�te uadeYSigned hereby declarea that ell the facts and representations etated ia
tbis epp�.ication are true and correct. �
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DA� � ;� c� ,.•�_ `` j„��SIG'ir'ATURE \: _ _ �.� '�::� �',
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Approved Dtaied By the 3aasd a� 1tp�i�ia�
Subjoct.to the Following Conditiona: date
Approved Denied by the Plnnain� Commissian on
&ubject to the $pllowiag Conditions; date
Approved Denied by Lhe Council on
8ubject to the Following Conditions: date
to�a PC 100
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February 1, 197Z
Mr. Joseph Laurent .
1312 Skywood Court
Fridleq, Min�n. 55432
' Rei Possible QacaCion of a Storm S��z
Eas�ent Adj�cent to Your Home
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Dear 2�fr. Laurex:t:
In answex to qour inquiry ebout the poasible vacatfon
of � portion of the storra sewer easement alanq the West side
of paur proparty, we ofFer the fo11o•aing data:
The exi$ting QaseraQnt neasur�s 1S feet with s 12 inch
pipe placed on the centex of th� ease�ent. Our recent field
suruey indicates your house to �xe 21 feet from the center of the
pipe. T%e pipe is bet�reen s�.x and six and one h�3f faet dee�.
The Engtne�ring a�d public WorI:s staff would r�cmmmend
egproval of vacatin� Lhe Easterly 4.5 feet of the eei,sement giving
yau room to expand your presenC butlding 18 feet.
He�aever, you would have to keep the top of pour footing
at the sa�e elevation a� the botta� of the storm seFrer or abaut
six feet daep.
Enclo�ed pI.eaSe find the necessarq applicatto�z to start
the vacation procedaxe. The fee for the vac�tion zequest ia
$20.�4. .
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CC: Gerald R. Davis, Citq l�ianager
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was just a matter of moving th:e fence. After the exact Iocation af the lot line
was determi:ned, the fence could be replaced.
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Regarding the address, rSr. Thoe said there were two �ail boxes outside of the
� fi].ling station now. The house would have a 73rd Avenue address and the filling
, stat�ion Central Avenue. '
Mr. Schmedeke said consideration should be given that Mr. Thae is the-fee
_ owner and the application for the lot sglit is the taay he wants to go. He felt
that Mr. Thoe should keep a 10 foot easement on the West side of the station for
water.
� Mr. Glark summarized the comments as follows: A 10 foot easement should be
retained either on the Southerly part of the property or the Westerly part. The
. size of the Iot would be approximately 70`x100`.
MOTION by Meissner, seconded by French, that the Plats & Subdivisions-Streets &
. UtiZities Subcommittee recommend approval to the Planning Comrnission of the Lot
Split�Request, L.S. #71-08, by C3ifford Thoe, in accordance with the latest drawing,
dated February 4, Z972, presented this eveninq in the Agenda creating a residential
... ._ 1ot approximately 70'x100' with the recommendation that the owner retain an ease-
ment for water access either to 73� Avenue or Central Avenue at his discretion
and that he be required to get a survey prior to final approval because the house
and station are going to be close to the new 1ot Iine. Upon a voice vote, a11
voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
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/'1 . Mr. Thoe was informed that the Planning Commission wauld hear his request at
the March 8, 1972 meeting. , .
�:2. REQUEST FOR A VACATION: SAV �72-02. BY JOSEPH A. LAURENT: To vacate the
. Easterly 4.5 feet of the Westerly 15 feet of Lot 5, Block 1, Swanstrom's
Court Addition.
Copies af the letter sent to Mr. Laurent on February 1, 1972 written by the
Engineering Department were given the members. The letter was in response to
� possible vacation of a storm sewer easement adjacent to Mr. Laurent's home. The
existing easement was 15 feet wide with a 12 inch pipe placed on the center. The
pipe is between b and 62 feet deep. The Engineering Department and Public Works
staff recommend that the top of the footing for the proposed garage would be at
the same elevation as the bottom of the storm sewer.
Mr. French commented�that the building would be roughly two feet from the
center of the pipe. If the pipe had to be dug up, the deep footing would prevent
the risk of the ground co113psing. He could not see that he �oould have any
abjections. He felt the chance of having to dig up that pipe would be rather
small. �
Mr. Clark said that Mr. Laurent could take bids or estimates to see if it
�,�ould be a feasib le thing to do. Normall}y, a reinforcement is not put in. This
request has been discussed with both Public Works and the Engineering staff.. They
/"1 felt there would be no troubl.e going down to the pipe. irobably just the portion
- of the easement next to the house would be vacated. The manhole to the West and
behind the house is 22 feet away and is four feet in diameter. It is far enough
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� � away so there would be no trouble. The ground is reZatively flat, but the ground
±� drops off and is pretty steep from the North manhole to Highway ��694.
MOTION by Engdahl, seconded by Meissner, that the PZats & Subdivisions-Streets
.- & Utilities Subcommittee recommend approval to the Planning Coram.ission of the
- i Vacation Request, SA V#72-02, b� Jaseph A. Leurent, to vacate the Easterl� 4.5 feet
� of the i�ester.Zy Z5 feet of Lot 5, BZock 1, 5wanstrom's Court Addition, only in the �
area to be occupied by the proposed garage and subject to the conditions in the
letter dated Februarz� 1, Z972 to l�ir. Laurent from Darre� C1ark, Engineerinq Assistant,
and subject to a certificate of survey g.ivinq the dimensions of the description:
before the Ordinance is passed. Upon a voice vote, a.Z1 voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously.
3. LOOPBACKS•
Chairman Schmedeke said he would Iike to mention the problem of loopbacks.
._ They-might have them up on the North side of Bob's Produce Ranch, and the Pure
Oi1 Station an Central Avenue and Highway ��65. He was suggesting that on loopbacks
aIl egress and ingress from the service drive shouZd be something like that of
the car wash on�i3rd Avenue and University when you go to the post of�ice. If
the Subcommittee could decide on a solution, the suggestion could go through the
Planning Commission and up to the Council. ,
Mr. French thought the City was subject to enough accidents right now without
^ * adding to it. .
Mr. Schmedeke said that it wasn't necessary to limit the loopbacks to servire
stations as the land area is large enough for an office building and there might
be other suggested buildings. .
ADJOURN�IENT •
There being no further business, Chairman Schmedeke adjourned the meeting
at $cQ0 P,M.
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45.10 C-1, C-2, C-1S, C-2S �
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� •. 45.ZO1� Uses Permitted " 42 '
� I} Principal Uses .� :. 42
� 2) Accessory Uses . 44
a . 3) Permitted Uses with Special Use Permit 44
� 45:102 Uses Excluded , � -47
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N45.Y03 Lot Requirements and Setbacks 48;
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1) Lot Area 48 j
2) Lot Width 48 ;
3) Lot Coveraoe .`� 48�..�. I
. 4) Setbacks�� — 50
5) Building Height 5� ' ,
. 6) Requirements for Commercial Property Abutting other Districts 5�
45.104 Parking Requirements 50 �
1) General Provisions 50
^ 2) Parking Ratio by Use ', 53
- 45.105 Landscaping ' - 54
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45 .106 Exterior Materials - � .SS
45.107 Screening : 55 i
� . 1) General Requirements 55
- 2) Parking Facilities Sb .
3) Loading Facilities �6
4) Material and Equipnent Storage 56
� 5) Garbage Storage 56
6) District Separation . 56
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45.108 Existina Facilities . , � • ' S7
1) Site Improvement 57
2) Exterior Development Permit. 58
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45.10. C-1,• C-1S, C-2, C-2S DISTRZCT`REGULATIONS C-I, C-1S, C-2, C-2S
� DISTRICT REGULATIONS
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�� � 45.101. Uses Permitted Uses Permitted
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. 1. Principal Uses, . _..: :
. A. C-1 Local Business & C-1S Local Shopping �
Local business establishments �shall be retail or -
service establishments which deal directly with
the customer for whom the goods or services are
£urnished,
1) Retail stores and shops and sma1l service
businesses such as : art shops, professional
studios; cloehing, drug, gracery, fruit,
meat, vegetable, confectionary, hardware,
sport:in� goods, stationery, music, variety
and notion stores, household appliance, �
fixture and furnishing stores and repair
shops in cannection therewith; stores and •-
shops for barbers, beauticians, cabinet �
_ ^ makers, electricians, jewelers, watchmakers,
locksmiths, painters, plumbers, shoemakers,
tailors, dressmakers, clothes pressers, job •
printers, blueprinters, photographers.
: 2) Bakeries, cafes, confectioneries; and ,
� ice cream and soft drink shops, including �
.: • the preparation of food products for retail
sale from their sites only.
� 3) Liquor stores selling packaged goods.
� 4) Radio and television offices and studios,
excluding radio or television transmission
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towers . . , �
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5) Theatres, lodges and assembly facilities
having a seating capacity of less than 300
� persons, but not including outdoor theatres.
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. 6) Offices, inc.ludin� business and professi.onal.
7} Sale of farm and garden products.
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8) Other retail stores;and shops, offices .'
and small service businesses catering to ,
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neighborhood gatronage, and similar in � �
� , �character to those enumerated above, not
• dangerous or otherwise detrimental to �
persons residing or.-working in the vicinity ���
thereof, or to the public welfare, and not .
imparing the use, enjoyment or value of
any praperty, except any uses excluded
hereinafter. -
B. G-2 General Business & C-2S General Shopping
. Business establishments shall be retail or service
establishments which deal directly with the �
. customer for whom the goods or services are
- furnished.
1) Drug stores � � . ' .
2) Hardware stores �
3) Department stores • -
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, 4) gakeries.
S). Bars, taverns . . . :
6) Household equipment repair shops `
, 7) Florist shops, �
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8) Commercial recreati.on_
. 9) Restaurants, excluding "Drive-lns"
_ 10) Ho.tels, motels ; �. . �`I-
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11) Theaters, lodges, assembly halls, ,� • �
auditoriums " "
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12) Hospitals, clinics, nursing homes, convalescent
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homes, homes for the elderly.
13) O�fices, inclu�ing business and professional
14) Vocational trade schools �
/� I5) Laboratories, medical,.dental and optical, �nd
harnless and inoffensive laboratories accessory fio
permitted uses, in the same building.
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- 16) Other retail or wholesale sales or service
�uses which are similar in character to those
�enumerated above, will not be dangerous or
� otherwise detrimental to persons residing or
'. working in the vicinity thereof, or to the..
public welfare, and will not impair the use,
' enjoyment or value of any property, but not �
including any uses excluded hereina£ter.'
2. Accessory IIses .
A. $usiness signs. �
" $. Off-street parking facilities.
� �C. Off-street loading facilities.
D. Recreational facilities such as swimming
_ gools and sl�ating rinks, which are available to
the public. �- -.. _ � .
E'. Storage o£ merchandise, solely intended to �
be retailed by a related and established principal
�"� : use. . ' _
F. Telephone booths.
G, Bus or taxi loading and unloading facilities. .
3�. Perniitted Uses With Special Use Permit in C-2 -
and C-2S Districts :
A. Bus and taxi terminals. `
. B. Autamobile agencies selTzng or displaying
new, unused vehicles.
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C. Boat and maxine stores or agencies selling •�'
or displaying ne�a, unused boats.
D. Garages for the sto�:age, repairs and
• servicing of motor vehicles not over two-
, ton capacity.
E. Automobile service stations. �
- If a Special Use Permit is granted, the folloGring minimuni
`�"'conditions should be met in order to protect the public health,
^ __safety, and general �aelfare. Because of traffic hazards, noise,
light glare at nioht, outdoor stora�e of inerchandise, indis-
criminate advertising, an3 othe-r charac*ics of this type of
business which are potentially detrim4ntal to our co*.nmunity,
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these minimum standards shall be cansidered far automobile
: service stations, alon�-with any other recouunenda'tions the .
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�^ : City may determine necessary to eliminate the particular grob- .•
' lems in achievino conpatability with abutting and adjacent �
land uses of each individual request.
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1. The Special Use P�rniit for an auto�obile service station
is only for uses noted in the definition, and any additional
uses on the premises other than those enu�n�rated in the definition
require an additional Special Use Permit; examples (but not Iimited
to these): Retail sales of non-sutomobile supplies, vending
machines outs:ide the building, car or truck rental, trailer sales.
2. The statioa will conply with the regulations of the zoning
district in which it is located, wspecially parkin� requirements,
landscaping, exterior material and screening.
3. The station wi21 co�►ply with the regulations of the sign
ordinance an�3 building ardinance.
4. The station will comply with the_Iicensing` requirement.s of
its �as pumps.
5. The station will not provide for the outdoor operatio:� of
lubrication equip��nt; hydraulic lifts or service gits, or the: .
outdoor display of inerchandise, excegt for the outside underground
� - storage of.gasoline an3 other p�troleum pro3ucts, the display of
petroleu� products betw��n pumps, or the temporary display o£ mer-
. chandise within 4 feet of the station building is p�rmitted.
6. The'station or gar�ge property shall not be used as a place of
stora e for or de ositor of wrecked abandoned or junked automo-
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biles, or for the sale or display for sale ot used cars.
7, Any required buffer or screening area will be so constructed
as'to o5struct h�adlight beams of automobiles on the station
pro�zrty from beaa�ing ozto adjacent residential property.
. 8. Al2 exterior lighting wi11 be so designed, placed and operated
as not be to a nuisance to adjacezt prop�rties.
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� 9." If Lhe statioa is to b� locat�d in a shoppino center or other
integrated development, it will be in architectural harmony with
the rest of the center or devzlopment.
,• 10. Buil'ding used at automobile service stations shall be con-
. structed of materials thafi are compatible with the adjacent area,
11. Activities Prohibited.
a.� Body work paintinJ ancl najor motor or major transmission
repair work shall be prohibzted.
b. Vehicular parkino is prohibited e�:cept that the o�aners'
°and employees' automobiles and a maximum of three service vehicles
may be parked, and automobiles being serviced may be parked for a
maximum period of 48 hours at any ane.time. '
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45.101 '��
. F. Mortuaries , � �
G . Used •Cars -
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g� Automobile car wash establishments. � � .
I. .Establishments of the "drive-in" type, •
selling, serving or offering goods or
• • services,directly to customers either waiting .
in parked motor vehic�.es or to customers
who return to their�vehicles to consume or
use the goods or services while on the
premises of the principal use, shall not
be permitted unless specifically authorized
by a special use permit, _
�. Creameries, dairies and ice cream plants.
K. Shogs for the following and similar
. occupations; blacksmith, machinist, mason,
� printer, sign painter, tinsmith.
L. Ice plants, cold storage plants, frozen .
food loGkers. :
M,': Laundries . =
� N. `Trailers, camgers, mobile homes, boats, ' .-
machinery, sporting equipm�nt and like •
enterprises having its merchandise in the
open and not under the cover of a display -
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salesroom.
0.' Other retail or wholesale sales or service _
uses which are similar in character to those
enumerated above, will not be dangerous or
otherwise detrimental to persons residing or
working in the vicinity thereof, or to the :
public cselfare, and will not impair the use,
enjoyment or value of any property, but not
including any uses excluded hereinafter. , �:.
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p,_ Animal clinics, veterinaries, dog and '
cat hosgitals provided the following conditions
are met in order to eliminate excessive noise
.
and odors:
` a. The building shall be of masonry
construction, outside wall minimum thickness
to be 8", with a precast concrete roof.
b. �The buildir_g shall be air conditioned,
^ all windo�•�s in the area of the buildin;
housing animals shall be double glazed with
a fixed sash. �
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� c. Anq ventilation system sha11 be designed
. so that no odors or organism will spread
between wards or to the out.side air.
The above conditions are considered minimum.
Additional conditions may be imposed, if
�, necessary, to protect the health, sa£ety and
general welfare of the residents of the City.
4�:102. Uses'Excluded Uses Excluded
V 1. � C-1 &. C-1S Only _
° Ei�, Commercial recreation uses such as amusement •
parks, bowling alleys, billiard and pool halls,
/'1- dance halls and skating rinks. •
B.. Taverns, beer gardens or bars serving any
alcoholic beverages on the premises. �
C. Mortuaries
D. Used car Iots
_ 2. C-1, C-1S, C-2, C-2S
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. A. Any use per,mitted in` M-1 or M-2 �istricts __ '
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� B. Any use excluded from M-1 Districts or £rom �
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M-2 Districts. - • � .
C. Junk yards _ '
` D. Manufacturing and processinj otrer than
• accessory use customarily incidental to permitted :
commercial sales and service uses.
� E. Any use ��hich is ob}ection�ble by reason of
emission of odor, dust, smoke, �as, vibration
� or noise, ar because oi subjectian of Iif.e,
' health or property to hazard.
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' Yards, lot sizes, and open spaces shall be as,required `,
, in this section for buildings hereafter erected in the
• C-1, C-1S, C-2, & C-2S Districts. .-
_ 1. Lot Area -
20,000
A lot area of not less than �r,-�89 square feet is required
� for one main building, however, if the lot width for a Iot _
� is a minimum of �feet, the lot area requirement of
�, w ��� squaxe fee���is waived, and no minimum lot area -3s
- � re`quired. (Ref: 459)
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. � ; 2. Lot Width -
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`} A, lot width of not less than i9fi- feet is required at the �
required setb c�r. �owever, if the lot area for a Iot is �
� a minimum of � square feet, the Iot width requirement ,
�, of 3.-A� feet is waived and no minimum lot width is required. (Ref. 459)
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� 3. Lot Coverage
/"1' The maxi.mum percent of the area of a lot allowed to be .
` covered by the main building and all accessoxy buildings
is as follows;
A. One story - 40°/o maximum
B, Two story - 35°io maximum . :
C. Three stoxy - 30% mahimum
D. Four stoxy - 25% maximum
. E. Five story - 20`/, maximum
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- F. Six story -` 15% maximum : � _
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, The �bove lot coverage percents �aill� be subject to other
considerations, such as parkin� � open space requirements,
use of facilities, and location to other districts; whicr may
" decrease the allow�ble lot coverage.
4. Setbacks
General: The following setback restrictions are the
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` bEPARTMETiT OF ADMINISTF�A7iQN -
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SAiNT PAUL
BtJtLDINE COGE
DiYI610N
� l February 15, 1972
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Mr�. Dave Phillips
� View Con Inc.
� _ 5901 Brooklyn Blvd.
! Minneapolis, Minnesota 55429 .
� Dear Mr. Philli s:
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; In response to your telephone call of February 9, 1972 �
� /'1 please be advised as follows.
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�The four-pl:ex that you are considering erecting in Fridley,,
� Minnesota is by definition an apartment house as explained
� on page 34 of the 1970 edition of the UBC and as such should' '
be classified as a Group H occupancy. �The private tenant
� garages under the housing units can in my judgement be in
� Group J occupancies.
As a re�ul.t of the above a one-hour occug�nce seperatian is
� al]. tha� is required between the two occupancies as noted im
�' T�ia.e. I� 5-$ o� th� UBC.
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� If you have any furt.�er quest�ons, g�.ease do not hesitate to
� con�act this office.
S�.ince�el� , .
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Chest . Zimni�f cz, P.E.
Assistant Director ,
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