PL 06/21/1972 - 31116�
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CITY OF FRI.DLEY
EI,ANNING UOMMISSION I�ETING
JUNTs 21, 1972
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CAZT, TQ OItDER:
�'he tneeting was called to order at 8:05 �.M. by chais�man �giciusen.
1t0� C�1I.L i
�iembers Present: Minish, Erickson, Zeglen, Schmedeke
�Iember Ab�ent: Fitzpatrick
Others Pre�ent: Darrel Clark, Eagineering Assistant
APF$�VE PLANDTING 001�lISSION MINUTES: JUNE 7, 1972
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Chairman �Srickson called attention to the Adjo++TM+�*R*nt wl�teiC�t he wae giv�n
��gd;� for ad�ourning the meeting. fle had removed hi�self fron� the ue��t�ng w'he�
Ttesn �.1 came up (Buildiag Permit for A 1 Motor Sports by Ma. Vicki SkiP�) �'1'ka�
�utes will show that Acting Chairman Fitzpatrick adjourned the t�eetia�,
�lpTION by Scha�deke, seconded by Ze�len, th$t the P�ai�natn� �o�.is�3Aa�
m�AUtes p� June 7, 1972 be approved subject to the above corr�t.�on. U��t �i V��c7e
y�t�, a11 voting aye, the ta�tion carried unanimously.
�ECE2VE $iJILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN COPTTR�L SUBCAMMITTEE 1'IINUTES s JUNE $. 19i2
1�TION by Zeglen, seconded by Schmedeke, that the Plannin� �oA�m.i��.i�
�'�Ge3yQ the m.inutes of the Building Standards-Design Control Sub�om�rta.t��� ���i�d�
Aaf �tuae 8, Z9�2. Upon a voice vote, all voting sye, the motion carra.ed �moW����
REC�TVE BOARD OF APPFrAI.S MI�iUTES: JIINB 13, 1972
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l�9T�ON bg Miasi.sh, second�d by Zeglen, that the Plann3ng �o�iss�osa �'�6�►�Y�
�� aainu�es o�' �e �ard of Appeals -meeting of June 13, 197a. Upora a v+���� V���.
�,�.� votin� ac�e, the �t3on carried unanimously.
�, a PjjBI�IC flEARING • SPECIAL USE PERMIT' SP �f 72-06 � LARSY L. LU1�I�R1a (G�i4�I).
PL�ROLEUM); To permit U-Saul Rentals �er City Code 45.1p1, ����i�A �s
3-�-�, located on . Lot 1 of Block l. �'ridley �ndus��ial 8ax�k �:��t ���a�
' �Tortheaet o� Sighway �65 Weat Service Road.
�Is• G�x��d Ru�nel, attornep for U-Haul, Chucic Beck, Dave Peterc�or� arad t�
�,����igt�e�rA Larrp L. Lndford vere present.
,�d, �'k��c'� of the proposed area and layout waB used duriug th� d�,���@ig��
1�g�. �tuimmel, expiained there were no service baqa on the egisEing s��C�qR�e ZQ
�'� {de�tt ��e lend was zoned Industrial, titere was a small mob�.l� hQme p�t7�'� Cp ���
P'1�At�it�� CQmmi�g:sion Meeting - June 21, 1972 ���� �
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'�'Q�p'� �� Highway No. 65 to the East. The proposed area fo� tll� U���u�. ��8�$►�,���
^� �� �Q�gGQ' atid is set back �from the interior curbing 28 feet at�� Wg�1�4$ ���'V�
�d��13�t� of� street parking for th� station itself.
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�'ig� 1'�.i.ui�h asked why �he station wanted the U-I�aul �reAt�l�.
1�iL• R.�e7, answexed it was for economics. Tt�e ��esent oWx��� 11a� b��� $A �'��
���t�Lr�fi} ��.r�c� the first of the year. He had U-Haul xet�tal� a� � pxsv�,Qt�� �����.�A
�h�t 1�� '��d o��x�ted. He felt it would be economically feasibl� �� �dd �$A� U���µ�.
���t�1s �s an accessory income.
�r. Erickson asked the status of the U-Haul on East River Raad ��d O�b9���
��d as l�e understood the permit had not been processed.
1`�. �it�nme3. said the franchise was granted but the deale� moved At�t Qf t9w�i
�� gl�� �����y �ook ov�r the station. They have not fouad a T��w ��P�
� disg�ussion followed concerniag the Clifford Thoe Lot Spli� �d �b� p�'�bl�t�q
�g�t������� witln it. Mr. Clark was instructed to write a let�ex to M�. Ti1o� ���3�
��b°Aia� �he status of the lot split aad the U-flaul business at th� �t�l� �t��3�RA
g� �3�ccl Avenue and Central Avenue.
�Ir. E�'ickson asked if Mr. Ruffiel was familiar with the x��an�x�� �f ��gi t����i���
�'1b� �ounci.l minutes showed that comments were made that this was tn�t th� '�s�i,
�g�v��� ��ation but a different type of sexvice. It was to be a pxodu�e ��o��
�6d ��� �g�t�oa. 1'hat w,as the understanding the City 1nad, and �i�+, p����3�1�.p 'h�de
�g� �t�� ��e�sent use.
e�&. I!�Iiaish said that the convenience of the Superette for the ��p81� 1A ��3�
�g�� �,nd Locke Park was one of the major reasons for granting the �e��D�t�g ��q�►��t�
��, Schmedeke said he felt it was one of the cleanest statior�a i� F�°����y �t�d
wa� a very nice operation. They have a nice brick front, nice k�e�s p�����d
���uad and �t surprised him to see this request.
lri�. �t�m►�1 said that he didn't think an area of 20'x60� would t�kk� �h� �����OA
�,qAl� �loppy, The station would be kept clean for the neighborhood, �� did t��t
�g��,� tha� i�' �t were run propezly, haviag some U-flaul equipment w�t13 t�8 �����
�t���gm �,,pu1d take any of the �es.thetic value awaY from it.
�c. Miaish asked if the petitioner would be willing to have kh� �'°����- �q���"
���� screened both front and back. He was talking about the•eaae kind 0� sc���t4a
�,n� they had for garbage cans . What ia in the eaclosure w�ld be �id L°�9m vf,e�T=
P��t of the program was an open display for advertiaiag purpoees, �r�d �€�a��
'���� enougY� around the perimeter of the stora�e area so �hat ygu c�t�'� se� wh��
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'�, �umae�, eaid the question was fn his miad whether or �vt �C WAS�Ld b� �Ac���
�����g�b1e to have a high fence or a screen. The area would $t��j, b� p��1� �l9w�xd�
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�'Ir, �,udfard said the station was laid out the way it is now �hen b� �e� �C�
��e stora&e for the oil and for the trash can be covered.
�la�ui�g Cozmnissiou Meeting - June 21, 1972 P�S���
�,e, ��el agaia explained the policy of the U-Haul pEOple �g� s@�y����� ���
� gg������ ��d keep�ng the inventory down at the various stations and �h��� �p1��Y g�
; ��q$��g ��tat�on if it was not kept up to their standarda. He sai� �h�� ��� e�
�� th� �t��ions, the aumber of U-Hauls that could be parked was �etei�pi��d ���Q��
th� pe�►i� was �asued.
. M�. ���l�n s��d �� did not think zhe U-Haul renta�s would a�d �n tha� ��at�Q�,
�� ����e w�s �oq� where the open space is, he would no� objec� g� �t.
�¢���V by �Minish, seconded by Schmedeke, that the Planni�� Co�t���9� �1��� ti`d�
��g,�� ���.�,�g for the request for a Special vse Permit, SP #72-06, �py T��'ty �.
�uGl.�g�'d (G'l�amplin petroleum) to permf. t U-Xaul rentals on that pa,�t A�' T�t �����lP � r
F�'��l�t� ��c$t�strial Park Plat 1. Upon a voice vote, all voting ay�, th�9 m9t�9�J
�raxsi�ci �nar�i.m�usly. -
Ch�,'�ioan �xirkao� said that he fiads it easy to have sym�p�tl�g gos th� op�x�t��c
g� ��g�,��.oa ��ia� �anaot make out, but not if the petitione� ggo�o�ee �� �dd �Q��
tl��.�� �o �.� �v ehange the eharaeter of the �tation.
�. I�ii,ai,ah said it always disturbs him not to see an artis�'s �A�cep� �►� �
s'����o�, I�e would like to eee a picture showing the U-flaul equ�pme�C �.A ��,���e
i"�', ��$len concurred 100% with the views e$pressed. He did ao� b��,�.�y� k��
weuld have voted for the rezoning if he had beea informed before it w�u1$ '�� �h��
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�. S�hr��d�ke said that at the time of the rezoniag, it wa� brau�'�� ��� �h�t tb�
r� ����ett� w9u�d fill a neighborhood need for picnickers at the park �d th� t���g�b�S°
hApd p�op�e� �,'he motion was based on the belief of the ot�mer cf,' thE� ����iA� �t�t��t�
��g t1�gy �oy,1d malce a go of it.
�e l�inish said this was a very nice clean area--there is nothit►� s��ti4A; �6���d�
1��. Zeglen said the station came up with a really good �lan �a� i� ��� ��pt'AV�d.
�l��'�'Q1V �y l�J.�z�isi�, seconded by Schmedeke, that the Planning �o�m.i��.�� s����ap�za�
d��i�$ �A Ltla� �c�unc�l for the reasons stated above of the reques� �o�r �,������
[��p �g,��, ��P q72-06, Larry L. Ludford (Champl�A Petroleum) tA �raa#� U�b�lAl
�g���� �� ���� Code 45.Z01, Section B, 3-E-1, located on that ga�t �$ LA1� �� ���,k 1�
��,��j�y g�dt��t.r�al Park Plat 1, lying Northeast of Xighway #6� W��� ,9�,i'v"��� ,�A�e
y�r� � q�g��e vote, aI1 voting aye, the �tion carried unanimouslys
�, �SB �'72�-07), CONSIDERATYON OF A REQUEST TO E�END A SPECIAL USE PE��. R�XN9T�
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�.�SON (CASTLE MOBILE flOMES) : To operate a Mob�.le �ome Sa�e� �,p� c�� i�.��
�,�, ���, �xtending the Special Use Permit granted �uly, �9b�. �����CioA d�6'��
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�, 1��y�qlei Swa�eon wae present and epoke in his own behal� �a�►��►� �i��� t��t
�� 1�,�'��� �� make a correction on the Agenda sheet. This reque�� dc��� gi�i� �pvO�Y�
Q��g�� �gbile Homes. fle is asking for an eutension of the Spec�a�. V�� �q�'� �i�
ki�� ��.
� �. $ehmedQke aeked if �Ir. Swanson would not have tv h$ve a t��w SF���.�� v�'�
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��iA� Goumais s ion Meeting -.Tuae 21, 19 7 2 �g�
s a so a
�%, C].ark answered that it woul�l not be necessary because, gpr ���1�e �� �
�� ���,��� Et�ation were to change com��,..,i _s, tr�e Special Use Permit wA�l� ���.��. �p �o-i�
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$�. Sw�ti$pn said that this was the former lot of Castle Mobi1� kiot�� &�11��
�4d t'��y hav� moved further North. He would like to use the 1ot i� it� p����At
GQAd�,t��� �tu� �ccu�y a mobile home as a sales office as in the pa�t, �� �eu3,d '�s�
�h� p����t�t �mp�covementa. He would clean up the back ar�� wh�.� $►��9 $s� u� Witb
W��d�. �9 �t�iatitted a plan showiag the dimensiona with 12 �obile hp�te� prx th� ��1gi�
�,�� ��p�'�►7citt�tely 10 feet apart. He would rua it as an independ��� gp�����c�� P� '��,�
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�. Swanson was asked to explain why �he Castle Mobile Home� w�t;� ��x��� g����g+
�'��p �.� �get ap�rt and on land that they did not lease.
1�. Sw�nsAn continued that his connection with Castle was tha� �i jv�� w�skiaa$
��� �h�� ��$��bniai$ as general manager and being promoted to Vice 1'��+�i��'�t �ib�1�� �
yg�� �,�g��e. Ori$inallq Castle Mebile Homes opened up in �u�.y of �,a69 �'bd �t th�t
�i�� the�y �1d Aot have many mobile homes. However, this spr�,a$ there� pg���,p��
W��� �1m�� Wl�em the lot was overloaded, but most of the time they ,ju�t h�d �h��t 1A
4��g � d�y, �.'he lot was open five months before he got there. fle w�� t���� �g� �
�►��E° �d then he went to the main office.
I��r., Minish said that at the time the application was made, it w�� �Q� e�.�y��
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l�''d�'. Sw�nson said Castle had three lots and the pperatio� Pos eac13 w�s diil���At.
��`� Wliest� g�,e 1Aeation could not handle a certain number of homes, tha ho�e� wc�ul.d �� p�t
�E� �i��k��� 1At. I� he found hia busineas had grown after three y���p, �� wAU�.d l�k
• �� � ��$$�'�' r�rea.
�, Zeglen asked if he had made arrangements to rent the laa�d Par th��� p�����
1K�. Do� �iarstad, owner of the land, explained that he is Xi�d up w��1i bu�.ld�a�
�s� j��'�� a�c�w +6u�d for several qears �o that he can't think about bu3ldit�� oA thi�
�a����t�� ].9� �A�c awhile and he would like to see this land ren�ed Oq a t�lsec� q�&�
���o Tt6i� w9�ld give the poung maa enough time to get himserf s�a��ed attid 1f t��
��gw�a h� wo�tld want a larger lot. There was a three year limitatioA oa tt►� ���8�
'����. �lt t�� Council meeting the decision was the applicant w�e to cptne b�►�i� �t
�kl� �tt� �D� three yeara for an extension.
Chairman Erickaon eaid his underetanding wae that the property WAUld ��Y��t
b�g1� �t� �-1 unless the applicant reapplied.
�. �I��s��ad said that t�e has appreciated this rental incqm� tv bel� �g,tti th�
��e��gtueat$ ota Chia property for a storm drain, creek, sewer aad w�te� o� the �&A'�g
g�` �h� ��'�p��'Xy. The valuation was raised from $16,500 tQ $2�tQpQ. ��am��tb �� �3�
h�� �o���.�� �a mind in the Yery near future, he would appreciate� �Ap�idex�t�ot� �i�
$h�� ��p��gt t�d he would agree that he would not aek fvr anothex ex��Aeiqr� at ��
�i8�� 6�� ��ie three yeare .
Mg, Swanson said that the hard surface on the lot is Class y w��h � p�,� ����.
,� �k►qA� �� ar� o1d car there and a amall trailer the service ma�a u$��i. SA� w�E1t h��
�c� 1g� dc��� 1� the front.
Plannin� Commissi�n Meeting - June 21, 1972 �$�� q
n �h�i�naa Erickson said that the thing that bothexed 'him �ae �h�C C� t�� ��
ip �c►� � Spec�al Use Permit to move the entire outfit out. Now w� wou�.d h�v� tW�a
�0��.�e hom� sales and a 1oCation where we have had nothing but p�ob�.ems.
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rjr. Swanson said he hoped to remedy the problems. Any stipu3.&��oAS th4 �6►�'
f��s�oA would wish to put on, would be talc.eaa care of . He said G'���� wou�.� b� �s�
���� betw��n t�a�lers wi�h a maxi�um of 12 euiits on the lo� at pne time, ��+ ��.d
�� �vtxld A�t stand the blacktopping expenae. The surface there �pqw is ve�y h�X�.
�� �� Ay� ��te�iorated �t all.
1`��C, M�aiah said the Commission has no assuranee that Mr. Sw�sQA W1�.1 b� t��
�g�g�,��x�. Mobile homes can change ownership. Mr. Swanson said the Gc�wA��sio� ��ul�
��k� � atipul�tivn tk�at it be�in his name. Mr. Miniah said that oace tile pse ��
ii� therg, it would be a permanent fixture.
�. 6�a�k added that if the Planning Commiasion did reco��t�c� th� ����A�iaA
q� �� Sp�e�.��. t�se Permit, it would be the proper uae of this p�ppex�y �Qx th���
yg��s, tb�t �+� �11 because the Code does not mention mobile home sal�s im aa lri �.
�i�trie�.
1�'!s. Harstad said he was not in a position to build and Mr. Swau�v� ttl9ttg�t it
w�tald be �ietter for the land to be used rathes than seeing it vacaas�.
�. Harstad continued that he felt it was a good decision ��p1m a� Qv��a�l
p��pdpoi�,� of the City to allow Castle to come in. �hey did bus�ae�� ��h �om� o#
�M� 'b�t�ia�sss p�.aces including the bank. He was glad he was at paxt of $�ttitag Ga$t��
�,8��g�d ir� F�idley. fle realized they had quite a few trailexs p partiatalar�y ��a�d�
��� �std. �e never heard any criticism from the City. a� wqu�d 1ikQ to �e� b�i�.
6w+��c�A allowed to go in thie lot and would be glad to hear any crit�.�iato� i� �h���
�h���d bq �nyr
�, �inish asked why there was not a public heariag. ChaixmaA �s�.�ks�A ��i�
�� w�s 'beeause it was handled as an extension, but he did not �hink �t �houl�.
1'�'• Glark expl�ined that there is no Code that would cover Ghis. C�stle �.�d
�� �CeZ9nes thei� property and thea a�k for a Special Use Permit. '� 1 mi�ht t�av� b��R
di��e���t�� �� July 1969 as the pew Code came out in Nqvember, 1969. Council d�� n�t
�s�C G�a�� � S�ecial Use Permit be considered. They want ko kna� whethe� �x mot �h�
��p����.p�a wants to h�ve this type of business on the property ���$rd�ees� wkte�t i�
i� ����d�
�a�rman Erickson said the question i� whether or not that Us� �,s ��t�a�,1p
pg����d by a Special Use Permit in that zoning. If we raieP, tha� que��lpAs a8►d
�,� s�y�� �G��.an is favorable, that particular discussion being i.n th� �,tit�uget�� w��l
�nalce �� �lear �o Council the zoning is not appropriate fo� the Use, but C9tt����
�at� �k� the decision on the permit.
b'�'• ����en said he felt the Special Use Penmit could be� extended fa� a p��ia►d
�� th�e� yea�� to Mr. Swanson. The land had been uaed for txai�.e�' sa�e�s �h�'p�s�
�h��� �►��'�a ��. whatever fa�rovementa were set up at that tim� �Lr�i ���,�.� k�1e►��m
�� t�a��x�tApd Mr. Harstad had no apecial use for the land at thi� ��p►e, b�� �}��
��:� �q� �`uture development. He could use the rental towards �ncr��e�d taac��.
�"3,annin,� Cotmnission Meeting - June 21, 1972 P�S� �
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��TION by Zeglen that the Planninq Commission recommend to Cpuxt�.i� �p,��°�Tt�,�
� A� e�t$�'a�.i�g the Castle Mobile Homes permit �hich expires July 8, 197? �d t���
�� ��� dimit of threa years be set with the stipulations of tne v�'.i�.���$ ��� �Q
�t� �j�placable to the ektension.
The MP�'�TON died for lack of a 5econd.
MOTION by Minish, seconded by Schmedeke, that the Planning Comu�i�s.io� �'evAAt�
�d dan�al to extend the Special Use Permit, referrin� to the p�rmit a�,��'PY�d �6y
�t�g,d�.� �xd �Tuly 7, 1969, by Reynold E. Swanson (SP #72°07) to oper�te � Mo,b�,�� ���
,�q�,�e� ,Lq� �t i1aZ T.H. No. 65 because it was the intent and understanaTi�3� �`i�t �t
t�de �rJd �f t1�e three year operation Castle Mobile Flomes would be tea�y to A�+Y� tC� �
�a�rgar site and that this lot would revert back to an M-1 Use. Mr. S�van�t9d3 W�e
�pa�z3�ct�� with Castle Mobile Homes during their occupancy. During that oc�1���iiG}�
c�z��e�s and stipulations were ignored. As he stated, back in Ju1y 1969 by �g��'gv,�l8�
�h� .��69 permifi we were encouraging other mobile homes operations, but th�s �V�%�1��
8�� �'��� one of these lots was enough. The temporary Use of the prop�r�y waS �,���'O°�*
,��'.3.��e, bu� he felt at the time they should find a permanent site £o� th� .�v����QTd•
U�T� A v��ge yote, M3nish, Schmedeke, Erickson voting aye, Zeglen vqtirlg ��� thQ
��.iq� Carried.
�]�. Swanson said that at the time Mr. Minish was talking about, he hac� r►Q
�qt�trc��. pf expenses and things of this nature.
M�. Ze�len asked hoa a Special Use Permit can be graated to oA� p�xty a�d T���
�c� ���her.
%'�'1 �. Minish answered that he didn't think granting a Special Use Pextiai� ��
��,ad�t�� 9n g�anting another.
1'�r. Schmedeke said that one of the reasons he objected to Chi�s �ype o� �p����
���� w�s t���e was no tau base. He asked the Aeaesaor if he had a w�� t6� a������ &�t
����.c�, �f he understood him correctly, Fridley gets next to na t8xe� �A ���i���.
��.�.�ense fee is paid to the State, but any business coming into th� l��.t�r �$1�tt3,d p�y
��7C�11$.
�, BLANNING CO1rIlrIISSION DRAFT OF
Contiaued to Julq 19, 1972.
AATOURI�NT s
There being no further business, Chairman Erickson adjouxned ths �i��iA►� ��
9a9g �,M.
Res ectfu ly subm�.t�ed
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