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PL 07/18/1973 - 7463' \ � � n � • - . . � � . . � . . : • A G E N D A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING JULY 18, 1973 8:00 P.M. CALL TO ORDER: ROLL CALL: PAGES APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: JUNE 20, 1973 1- 15 RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES: 16 - 17 MAY 21, 1973 .RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE 18 - 26 MINUTES: JUNE 21, 1973 RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES: JUNE 26, 1973 27 - 28 � 1. Approval of Proposed Anoka County Library Location at Mississippi Street N.E. and 5th Street N.E. 29 �(410 Mississippi Street N.E.) 2. Report on Special Use For Auxilliary Buildings , / � �� ' � - � / IV . / 1/�� , . , > i� � � PLANNING COMMISSION MEETTNG June 20, 1973 r'1 Mr. Fitzpatrick called the meeting to order at 8:04 p.m. ROLL CALL: � . ` MEMBERS PRESEN�': Fitzpatrick, Blair, Drigans, Harris, and Lindblad MEMBERS ABSENT: None. OTHERS PRESENT: Mr. Darrel Clark, Community Development Administrator. APPROVAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: JUNE 6, 1973: Mr. Drigans pointed out the last paragraph on page 7 and the first . paragraph on page 8, and said that he did not recall Mr. Harris saying that, Mr. Drigans said that he was trying to explain why he voted nay on the motion. The reason was that if the Planning Commi- ssion referred tfie bus facility to the City Council directly, the subcommittees would be circumvented, and have to follow suit. Mr. Drigans said that it was Mr. Boardman�s statement that the City wants to retain a walk�ray. ^ Mr. Drigans stated it should have read that the reason he voted nay was if the Planning Commission referred the action to the Council � that the subcommittees �rould have to follow suit as being subcommittees _ o� the Planni,ng Commissa�on. Mr. Harris said that Mr. Boardman�s statement was that if the City d�.d not acquire tFie property, tI�en the City would want to retain it and use it for a walkway anyho�r�. MOTION by Mr. Drigans to receive the minutes as corrected. Seconded by Mr. Blair. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. ' RECEI'VE PLATS $ SUBDIVISIONS�STREETS � UTILITES SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: JU E , 1973: MOTION by Mr. Harris to receive the minutes of the Plats � Subdivisions- Streets $ Utilities Subcommittee meeting of June 6, 1973. Seconded by Mr. Lindblad. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the mation carried unanimously. RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: JUNE 7, 1973: MOTION by Mr. Lindblad to receive the minutes of the Building Standards- Design Control Subcommittee meeting of June 7, 1973. Seconded by ^ Mr. Harris. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried � � unanimously. �.-_. __ . • , ,�,.. �,,, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF JUNE 20, 1973 PAGE 2 �'1 RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES: JUNE 12, 1973: MOTION by Mr. Drigans to receive the minutes of the Board of Appeals meeting of June 12, 1973. Seconded by Mr. Blair. Upon a vpice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING RE UEST ZOA #73-06 MICHAEL SELEDIC JR.: Rezone from R�1 sin le famil wellin areas to R-3 eneral multi le famil wellin s Lots 3-10-14-20 Bloc 20, an Lots 3-7 19-24 Block 19, all in Fridle Park Addition to a low construction o a 9 unit apartment complex: MOTION by Mr. Blair to waive the reading of the Public Hearing Notice. Seconded by Mr. Drigans. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the mot�on carried unani.mously. Mr, F�,tzpatr%ck a5ked if the petitioner I�ad anything to add from the meeting of two weeks ago? The petiti.oner, Mr. Seledic, said that he has not done anything outside of one meeting with Mr. Clark. The only thing that Fie could conclude was the easement for the road along the backside of the property and the easement for 61st to come through, was a controlled �.ntersection. He said he had no objection to this. ^ Mr. �itzpatrick sa�d that one of his major concerns was the use of �� the px'operty� of tiie surrounding home o�mers. Mr. Drigans asked i� tFiere had iieen any changes in the plans since two weeks ago? The petitianer said�there have not, but drainage and traffic would all have to be engineered. Mr. Clark said that 611/2 Way vacated, would have to be a cul de sac r o a d The Commission would then want all parking areas o� the apartment site to bring access down 61st Way. He said that in vacating all of the other right of ways, they would like to see that the City get a 20 foot addition to connect 61st Way to 62nd Way and continuing north to 64th Way. He said this would be beneficial if and when there is ever a median down East River Road. Mr. Fitzpatrick said this would involve getting an easement from .much of the property up to 64th. He said on his draft there is a difference showing between the railroad property north of 62nd and south of 62nd. He asked if there was any real difference in the situation? Mr. Clark said it has been platted. North of 62nd is kind of a sub lot. ^ Mr. Drigans asked Mr. Clark how he would propose to handle lots 20 �` and 21 in block 20 with that jog. Mr. Clark said the ownership probably doesn't jog like that. ^ PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF JUNE 2U, 1973 PAGE 3 ^ . Mr. Fitzpatrick asked why the City has chosen 61st for the exit for making a signalized intersection. Mr. Clark said that it was prob- ably looked at prior to the abandonment as 61st crossed the�tracks. He said 62nd Way, going west, may have access also. Mr. Fitzpatrick said that there was some discussion on the drainage at the meeting two weeks ago. Mr. Clark said that they really haven't done anything about this problem except talk about what can be done about it. It appears to be complex and involves property outside this proposal. Mr. Harris said it would be necessary then, if the project went, to install a storm sewer system. Mr. Clark said the drainage must be taken care of. The nearest is at 694. Mr. Harris said there was no storm sewer system in this area now. Mr. Clark said that there was another at 63rd and East River Road that would probably not be deep enough. He said the storm sewer system is � problem that will have to be solved. Mr. Fitzpatrick said it was apparent that they would have to ask ^ the City for a proposal for drainage and traffic before acting upon it. � Mr. Fitzpatrick opened the public hearing. Mr. Richard Brown, 6103 East River Road, said that this proposal sounds worse and worse the more he hears. First they just wanted a rezoning request, and now other things are coming up. Mr. Fitzpatrick said that the street proposal would just be a dedication from the property owner. Mr. Brown handed the Commission a petition opposing the rezoning request of Mr. Seledic Jr. for building apartments in the area of 61st and East River Road presently zoned R-1. MOTION by Mr. Blair to receive the petition. Seconded by Mr. Harris. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mrs. Richard Soj, 65 - 61st�Way N.E., said that the only way child- ren can go by now, is the back street. She said East River Road is too busy already without any apartments in the area. She said when they bought their homes there, a factory was supposed to be built, and that was it. She said that since there was no park in that neighborhood, it should be made into a park. There were six people in the audience who suggested they were opposed to this also. Mr. Drigans said he would like to hear some of the reasons why they are opposed. � Mr. Richard Soj, 65 - 61st Way N.E., said that he was opposed for /� the same reasons as Mr. Brown stated. ^ PLANNTNG COI+?�I�SS�ON 1'��.ET�N6 Ok� ,�UNE 2Q, �.973 �AGE 4 ^ MOTION by Mr. Blair to close the public hearing. Seconded by Mr. Harris. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unani- mously. . 4 Mr. Fitzpatrick said before they can act upon this, they need to have some 'specific recommendations on traffic and drainage from the City. Mr. Clark said that the traffic patterns w�ll be easier to plan than the drainage because t£�ey have had other studie� with the traffic in this area, and the drainage would probably involve a large area of property. He said that the drainage study may take at least 30 days. . Mr, Drigans asked Mr. Clark if there was any chance that East River Road changed, will leave the people without access to East River Road? Mr. Clark said coming from the north they woiYld have to go down Mississippi Street one block to Ashton, then follow Ashton along the tracks right of way. Mr. Drigans said tI�e people on 61st 1/2 Way won�t be able to get through. He said they•will have to go all the way around and under the 694 underpass. Ntr. Drigans said that � he was concerned about rezoning a block with residential structures. � He felt this would lower the property value. Mr. Harris said there are always two sides. He said looking at this area from the Comprehensive Plan, a multiple developm�nt, or some- thing besides an R-1 area, it is probably �he best place for apart- ments. He would like to see something developed there. But on the other hand the adjacent property owrzers would suffer. He said when the people bought their property, it was R-1 and they believed it w�Uld rem�in R-1. He said the general layout of the apartments look iike army barracks. He said it renders the rest of the property unusable for further development. He didn't like the idea of "spt�t rezoning." Mr. Drigans said he would be more favorable towards R-2 than R-3. MOTION by Mr. Harris to recommend to the Council, denial of the petition for the Rezoning Request ZOA 73-06 for the following reasons: 1. The property owners would suffer as they are in R-1 zoning. 2. The general layout of the building is not good, it renders the rest of the property in block 19 unreasonable for further development. 3. There is strong objection from the adjacent property owners. 4. It renders the R-1 residents traffic hardships. r' Seconded by Mr, Drigans. r� Mr. Harris said that perhaps the petitioner could modify his plans in some way to make the development more compatible with the sur- rounding areas. �1 PLANNING CONIMISSTON MEETING OF JUNE 20, 1973 PAGE 5 /'1. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. CONTINUED: VACATION RE UEST, SA�T #73-09, MICHAEL W. SELEDIG, JR: Vacate lst Way etween East River Roa an Burliagton Northern ro ert ; vacate alle between lots 4-10 and 15-Z0, block Z0; vacate 11 2 Wa etween lots -23, lock 19, an lots 3-7, lock 20; vacate alle between lots 3-7 and 20-24 block 19. All in Fri le Par A ition, to allow construction o an ap��tment complex. Mr. Fitzpatrick said this reQuest was contingent upon approval of the Rezoning Rec{uest and therefore, they must act upon it to recvmmend denial based upon the denial of the rezoning request. MOTION by Mr. Harris to recommend denial of the uacation request based upan the deni;al of tFie Rezoning Request. Seconded by Mr. Blai.x. Upon a vo�ce vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unani- mously. CONTINUED: FINAL PLAN APPROVAL: WALL CORPORATION: The areas ener� all locate etween 5th Street an 7th Street N.E. from Mississi i Street to 63r Ave. N.E. . n Mr. Clark said that recently the petitioner had changed his mind about ^ building apartments and wanted to increase the density in the R-1 area so that the total sites would hold 155 units. He said the Board of Appeals acted on this and made a recommendation to Council. Their recommendation was to drop the density to 140 units. This recommenda- tion went to Council and the motion Council made was to allow the 155 units. The petitioner, Frank Reese, from Reese-Robe $ Associates, came forward. He said he had several site illustrations and actual details of the building itself with him. He said that they have taken out some of the town houses in the middle and added a sizable recreation building recommended by Council. He said Council asked for an indoor swimming pool, recreation facilities for ping pong and pool, and a room for changing ice skates in the winter. There were no members in the audience for this item. Mr. Reese displayed another drawing illus�rating the exterior walls that would be of prefinished wood. Some units will have fireplaces. The general characteristic of them would be gable roofs, asphalt shingles, and rough sawn boards for trim. He indicated that they �t�ll be us�ng a number of diffex�ent color stains so that they won't all be the same. He said it will be combinations of tans, golds, greens, and browns. n Mr. Reese said these are designed for a rental market now and a sale market in three years. He said there is a double garage for each ,� � unit and storage space for bicycles and other yard goods. He said 1/2 flight up will be the kitchen, living room, and dining area. Another 1/2 flight up will be two bedrooms and a full bath. Another flight up will be master bedroom, shower-bath, and a walk in closet. /'o� PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF JUNE 2Q, 1973 PAGE 6 /"� Without the garages this is about 1300 square feet of space. The � basement will be alittle over 4Q0 square feet of finished space. This is floor tile, ce�ling, sheet rock, and walls; but it won�t be carpeted or plush. The total garage space will be 428 square feet. The total square feet will be 2200 per unit. They will be �tentatively marketed in tl�e high $30,000 range. He did not have any figures on rentals. Mr. Reese said that the main concern in the site itself was the proposal on surface development. The critical part of this project is the ability of the interior area to retain water during an unusually heavy rainstorm. One of the requirements in the contract bet�reen the City and the Wall Corporation is that it retain 12 acre feet. He said that they know that the water comes from the south and that it is 7 feet higher th.an the catch basin on 7th and Bennett Drive, which is a low point. The ponding area will be below the catch basin area. He said what they have proposed for� this project was a system of trails and club facilities. He said this space would be about 4,000 square feet. About 1/2 of this would be the swimming pool area. The building will run about $80,000 and about $5,500 for equipping it. Over the pool there will be a flat deck. He said that the•recreation area would include a fireplace and a kitchen area for parties. He said Y�e did not have shown, the quala.ty of the landscaping although he knew they were interested in i,t. The budget set up now is approximately $100 per unit for plantings. �1 He said there is public se�rer, gas, and water adjacent to the site. � Mr. Blair said that Mr. Clark mentioned that the drive-ways would handle 20�40 units. He asked whether th.at wasn�t a lot for one drive- �ray? Mr. Clark said no because he has seen others with 10 times as many that are okay, ^ i � Mx. Dr�.gans asked if there �tas any way to take that one unit exit on Miss�:ssi.ppi. and exit it through th.e one on 5th Street? Mr. Clark saa.d not conveni.ently, but possible. A ri.ght hand turn only sign could be put in. Mr. Fitzpatrick said the Commission has heard the plan that is now approved and was before the Commission at great length and what it was about was in reducing density along 7th Street, and having the apartments built in the southwest corner. He said they have reduced the overall density, but increased the density greatly along 7th Street. Mr. Clark said the Board of Appeals discussed that and all must agree that it is one complex now. He said while some thought should be given to buffering along 7th Street, there is still one complex there. The Board of Appeals, in their motion, took R-1 densities and applied them to R-3. However, the Council felt this plan of-155 units would be acceptable and in part perhaps, better than 59 townhouses and 108 apartment units. . . � � PLANNING COMMISSION MEETTNG 0� JUNE 20, 1973 PAGE 7 ^ Mr. Harris asked if there wilY be a pump in the ponding area? Mr. Reese said yes and also some fountains. Mr. Harris asked what about the elevation of the Recreation building in regard to the f•lood stage. Mr, Reese said that the contract said that all living areas be 3 feet above flood stage, that included the pool etc. Mr. Harris asked what the $100 per unit for plantings would include? Mr. Reese said this would include shade trees.and individual plant- ings throughout each townhouse. The plantings do not include sod. He wasnet sure if it included the trails. Mr, Harris said he didn't see how they could put in 3" trees in the proposed plan for that price. Mr. Reese said not every townhouse will have trees. Mr. Drigans said that this �s a preliminary plan and he would like to review with the architect whether these things have been fulfilled before they recommend approval or denial. One thing is the applica- tion that shall be filed when the building inspection has been done, and the application shall be submitted to the Building Standards ^ Design Control Subcommittee, so that they can review it and make a recommendation. Mr. Clark said that would be done June 21, 1973. � Mr. Drigans asked Mr. Reese if his firm was involved with the Larsen Townhouses? Mr. Reese said they were. Mr. Drigans said he was cancerned with the appearance of the townhousES. Mr. Harris asked what the exterior finish would be? Mr. Reese said rough sawn prefinished plywood panels on t�e outside, The area around the eves would be red�ood stained. T�e trimming around the windows would be 1 x 6 rough sawn boards. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked how many units have exterior fireplaces? Mr. Reese said they all have interior fireplaces but they would have plywood panels coming up on the outside ones. Mr. Drigans asked what kind of material will be on the roof? Mr. Reese said asphalt shingles in three colors. Mr. Harris asked if there would be sidewalks? Mr. Reese said not really. -Mr. Clark said there will be sidewalk� along 63rd and 7th Streets and there already is one along Mississippi Street. Mr. Blair asked if there will be any lights along the trails and paths? Mr. Reese said there would be lights every 50 feet with 100 watt lamps. Mr. Harris asked if there would be lights in the parking lots? Mr. ^ Reese said yes, they will be on at all times. He said they will prob- � 1 ably add post lamps on each side of the drive-waysalso. � PLANNING CONIMISSTON MEET�NG 0� �UNE 2Q, 1973 �AGE 8 ^ n � ^ � � Mr. Drigans asked if there posal in these areas? Mr. garbage collection point. has been any thought to the garbage dis- Reese said they will have a screened in � Mr. Drigans said he was concerned with the stucco areas. Mr. Reese said that the area is 2 ft high and 8 1/2 feet wide, there are the two bedrooms over the garage area. He said they will be having redwood dividers between each patio unit. Mr. Drigans asked if using brick in the 2 x 8 1/Z area would be more appealing? He asked if the cost would be much greater? Mr. Reese said brick is heavier looking and it would look good at the bottom of the building but not at the top. Mr. Harris asked if the c�imneys are covered with brick. Mr. Reese said they are covered with wood. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark who will maintain this area. Mr. Clark said that while it is rental, the Wall Corporation will be maintain- ing it. . Mr. Lindblad asked about the tennis courts. Mr. Clark said that the Council wanted them but the developer discouraged them. Mr. Fitzpatrick said that one of the commission� chief concerns is the exterior appearance, Mr. Drigans said his concern was that not all of the plans were available, the project has been going on for over a year, and the commission is asked to give a good preliminary appraval for recommendation to the Council without all of the plans available. He said he would like to see some work done on the project to enhance the w�ole project. Mr. Drigans said that the Building Standards Committee should look at the other townhouses that this architect has planned on 69th and Stinson Boulevard. Mr. Clark said the Commission could make a preliminary plan approval. He said the next meeting isn't until July 18, 1973. Mr. Drigans said he wanted to reemphasize that this complex is in the heart of the City, it is adjacent to a residential area, the density is extremely high, and considering all of this he thinks the aesthetic appearance of the entire project is more important to the City of Fridley; theref ore, the landscaping plan, the exter- ior appearance of these buildings should be scrutinized by Council very tightly. Any type of substandard appearance should be dis- cussed with the Wall Corporation so that people can look at this project with pride. ^ PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF JUNE 20, 1973 PAGE 9 I �'1 MOTION by Mr. Drigans that the Planning Commission consider this as a preliminary plan and recommend to Council approval with the follow- ing stipulations: � .. 1. That the 7th Street access be as close to Bennett Drive as pos�sible. 2. That limited access be provided on Mississippi Street. 3. That those units in the R-�1 area be owner occupied within a period of three years after the completion of the construc- tion and at that time a two year extension on the time limit be granted by the Council if it is needed. 4. That the drainage problem be solved with the Engineering Department, 5. That the recreation building include an indoor swimming pool, party room, �rarming room, sauna, and that a tennis court be provided. ^ 6. Recommend that brick be used on the exterior of the complex. � 7. That they have a complete landscaping plan. 8. That it is contingent upon approval of the Building Standards Subcommittee. 9. That a copy bf the Model Association bylaws be available to the 6ouncil. Seconded by Mr, Harris. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #73-05, BY KEITH S. SWENSON AND DENNIS D. SARKILAHTI TEXACO SERVICE STATION): To continue a service station and ermit the addition of rental of local an one-way truck and trailers, as per City Code, Section 45.101: MOTION by Mr. Blair to waive the reading of tfie Public Hearing Notice. Seconded by Mr. Harris. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Kei�h Swenson, the petitioner, and the representative for E-Z Haul, said his request is to use the Texaco Service Station located � at 6071 University Ave, as a rental outlet for E-Z Haul trucks and trailers. He felt it would be a good service to the residents of ^ Fridley and it would prove to be valuable. �� Mr. Blair asked how many trucks and trailers they plan to have put on this lot? Mr. Swenson said a maximum of three trucks and five or six trailers, depending on their size. � PLANNING COMMISS�ON MEET�NG 0� �UNE 20, 1973 PAGE 10 /'\ Mr. Harxis asked Mr. Clark �f there was enough room on that lot? Mr, Clark said it depends on the operation of tfie station. He said that the site is large enougI� far this if there were not more than three or four.customer cars on the lot for servicing. He said that the three or four trucks that would be parked in back by the frontage road, might impair vis�.on. He felt one should be dropped. Mr. Swenson said they took this into consideration, He said they would move one truck over to the other side of the building and move the other two trucks over. Mr. Fitzpatrick said that his biggest concern was that that was an awfully busy intersection. Mr, Clark said that there was an access to the south and two accesses to the north. Mr. Fitzpatrick said � that going off to the north there could be a problem with the street divider. Mr, Clark said they would not be able to get into the west bound lane from the most westerly entrance. Mr. Drigans asked how many of these type services does Fridley now have? Mr. Clark said one has been approved for the 6ulf Station on Osborne Road for U-Haul. � Mr. Clark mentioned that you can make permits for six months or a year, whatever you want. � Mr. Lindblad asked how much additional traffic would this kind of a business bring in? Mr. Swenson said primarily these trucks move only on weekends, and trailers primarily twice on a weekend. Mr, Drigans said hi's major concern was the visibility around the frontage road. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked Mr. Swenson that with that type of turn over, was it necessary to have three trucks. Mr. Swenson said it wasn't. Mr. Drigans said also, when they back the trucks in, they could have a lousy backer upper and he could back it up into the frontage road. Mr. Clark said there should be st'riping provided to outline these areas. Mr. Drigans asked Mr. Swenson if they negotiated only with Texaco Service Stations? Mr. Swenson said they negotiate with several stations. Mr. Drigans asked where their nearest location to Fridley was? Mr. Swenson said in Columbia Heights. Mr. Fitzpatrick opened the public hearing. There was no one in the audience on this item. ^ Mr. Clark asked what would the sizes of the �` said they would be 18 foot vans and 12 foot the drawings said 28 x 12. Mr. Swenson said of the truck. Mr. Swenson said the size of 5 x 8, 4 x 7, and 4 x 6. ' two trucks be? Mr. Swenson vans. Mr. Clark said that that was the total length the trailers would be /"1 PLANNING CONIMISSION MEETING OF JUNE 20, 1973 PAGE 11 n � Mr. Harris said he thought two trucks and six trailers would be suf- ficient and they should put a time limit on the permit of about a year to see how the service operates. He felt�we need this�,service in Fridley. Mr. Clark said that if one is approved they will probably have more applications so they should be sure why they approved it and must then use the same criteria for others. He felt that the time limit would be wise. Mr. Fitzpatrick questioned whether they are about to recommend approval at a site that is not as good as some in the past. Mr. Swenson said that it wasn�t necessarily the site that was good, it was the location. Mr. Fitzpatrick said that the motion should state the reasons that approval was recommended. Mr.'Drigans said he didn't think this was a suitable site. He was concerned with the traffic problem because this was a very windy road. He said they have no guarantee that these trucks, even though �"� they are striped, are going to be parked unless there is some kind of a barricade. In the winter, if that frontage road is slippery, �1 the trucks will be a problem. He said it is tough to see around _ that corner. There is too much of a blind spot. He did agree that this type of a service is needed but this was not the suitable site. Mr. Harris said they would eliminate one truck and could put in concrete curbs so that the trucks don't back up too far. Mr. Clark said that they could put limitations on it or deny the whole thing . He said with the,two trucks there you could still see �o� 1Q:Q �eet � 1�OTTON fi� 1�r. Ha,x��`s to close tfi,e �ubl�,c hearing. Seconded by Mr. L�,ndfilad. U�Qn a v'a�ce vote, all vot�ng aye, the motion carried unan�nouSl�. � MOT�ON by Mr. Blair to recommend the special use permit #73-05, for the following stipulations: 1, That the permit be granted for one year. 2. That the parking area be marked. 3. That the number of trucks be reduced from three to two. ^ 4, That the parking of the trucks stay in line with the east �� wall of the station and the width be not more than 25 feet _ from the building. 5. To put restraints on the trucks from coming back too far, some concrete stops or other means of control. 6, To get a si.gn �erm�..t sepaxatelY., � �LANNING COMMISSION MEETZNG 0� JUNE 20, 1973 PAGE 12 t � Seconded by Mr. Harris. Upon a voice vote, Harris, Lindblad, Blair, and Fitzp atrick voting aye, Dr�gans voting nay, the motion carried. Mr. Clark reminded that this would go to Council on July 2,`1973. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A REZONING REQUEST, ZOA #73-07, COL�JMB�E�AL FA RTCATION INC.: Rezone Lots 1 Au itor's Sub- div�sion #39 exce t the Westerl Half, from R�1 Sin le famil we l�ng areas to M-�2 heavy in ustrial areas , to relocate: MOTION by Mr. Blair to waive the reading of the public hearing notice. Seconded bv Mr. Lindblad. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. The petitioner explained that the reason for the rezoning request was that they needed more room to expand. He said the rest of the property of theirs belongs to the railroad and on the south side it is zoned industrial. The lots facing Main Street are zoned R�3. He said their work i5 not heavy industrial and they have had no complaints for t�e past 7 years. Mr, Drigans asked the peti- tioner how fax a�ay this ne� location from tfie present location was. � The petit�oner sa�d about 6 or 7 blocks. He said there was an old vacant house on the new property, a garage that should be condemned, � and a chicken coop, etc. Mr. Drigans asked if this type of operation would include any out- door storage? The petitioner said it would. Mr. Harris asked about utilities and drainage? Mr. Clark said the water and sewer would come from Columbia Heights. The drainage would be out to the street or back to the railroad berm where it is going now. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked where the berm was, the east or west end? The petitioner said at the west end. But from the bottom of the berm over the hill top is approximately 150 feet. Mr. Clark said that this parcel is not presently M-2 and is less than the 1 1/2 acre.minimum requirement. He said with this plan, it meets all of the setback requirements except the front yard requirement, He said it shows 35 and the zoning ordinance calls for 100.feet when located across from any residential zoning. The petitioner said we do have one industry located on 44th, he said they are 30 foot setbacks. He said they need 59 feet for ^ trucks coming in and loading. Mr. Clark said it might be better to have the loading and storage areas in the.rear yard. � � PLANNING CO'MMISSTON �EETTN� 0� JUNE 2Q, 1973 �AGE 13 n Mr. Drigans asked if there werenhtandYEasteRivereRoadTandPonetonn32nd sa�d there are some. One on 37t and California, but they don't want to move that far from Columbia Heights. ` Mr. Drigans asked if this type of business had any noise level? The petitioner said it must meet febikes and dunebuggies thansthey they get more noise ��th the motor would �ith his compan�. He rem�nded the Commission that they have � not rece�ved a compla�nt in 7 yeaxs. � ^ �� Mr. Fitzpatrick opened the public hearing. 4021 California said he took up a petition to . Mr. Henry Zimmer, a weldin shop for stop the Metck bodiesaandnaIyarditomstoredthe bodies in. He felt building tru that this building will interfere with their peace and quiet and beauty of the neighborhood. MOTION by Mr. Drigans to recHarrishsaidtthere�werec35dnames on�the Harris for discussion. Mr. petition and he wanted to from ColumbiawHeights.�rUponYarvoicenvote, Mr. Zimmer said some were all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Zimmer said he did not thendidhnot thinkn�tgwouldmlookpveryhat building in there. He said nice to have a lot of truck bodies out in the yard. Mr. Floyd Ryman 4004 2nd Street, saiaStand heefeltethepindustry build a park in that area for the ki would stink up the neighborhood�ifHkidslwalkedabystherehit couldng on Sunday out by the street an be hazardous. Mr. Anthony Picus, 4036 Main Street, said that this is going to drive down their property valsaid asefarlastcomplaintsrnhendidenot now,should be condemned. He think there were more than five single dwellings on 39th where the business is now. Mr. Dennis Bertrand, 4042 Main Street, referred to the Cityts Zoning Ordinance on pageuldeconstitu�e spot rezoningrt He feltpthatse. He said building this wo the noise would be quite high. Further expansion or a change in the owner could result in further deterioration of the property, from the residential standpoint�. Darleen Austin, 10 41st Ave. value of her home to drop. said she would not want the property ^ �LANNfiNG C01��SSI:ON �EET�NG 0� �UNE 2Q, 1973 PAGE 14 /'1 Mr. Drigans asked the petitioner if they will be doing any work outside of the building. The petitioner said they do not plan to. He said they haven't worked on Sunday since January. � Mr. Zimmer.said he thought the people have suffered enough already with the railroad. MOTION by Mr. Blair to close the public hearing. Seconded by Mr. Lindblad. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Drigans asked Mr, Clark if this property was vacant right now? Mr. Clark said it is not being lived in. Mr, Drigans asked if this could be any type of a hazard. Mr. Clark said he was not sure since he had not seen it himself. Mr. Lindblad asked if it was a livable s�ructure? Mr, Clark said it had not been inspected. Mr. Harris asked if there had been any response from Columbia Heights as they were contemplating a park there. Mr. Clark said there had been no response from tliem alt�ough we sent them a notice. He ^ said he could contact them again, He said they should have received their notice two weeks ago. ^ Mr. Fitzpatrick said he wanted to bring up the point that Mr. Clark brought up that any action by the Council to rezone this for any particular purpose also gives the variances, so the commission has a lot to look at aside from the rezoning. Mr. Drigans asked Mr. Clark if he recalled on the Comprehensive. Pfian how much percentage is of unused land in Fridley. Mr. Clark said he could not quote a figure, however, there is a substantial amount vacantt . Mr. Drigans said that this constitutes spot rezoning when an R-1 district is concerned. MOTION by Mr. Drigans to deny the rezoning request #73-07. Seconded by Mr. Harris for the following reasons: 1. Spot rezoning. 2. Depreciate the property value of R-1 areas, no buffer zoning. 3. Doesn't meet the minimum 1ot size area. 4. Plenty of M-2 zoning already in Fridley that is available. ^ � 5. Sizable objection from property owners. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETTNG OF JUNE 20, 1973 PAGE 15 ^ n Upon a voice vote, al1 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. REPORT ON SPECIAL USE FOR AUXILIARY BUILDINGS: � No final report� yet. RESERVATIONS FOR DINNER MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL: The dinner reservations have been set for July 30th. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting adjourned at 12:30 a.m. Respectfully submitted: �� ARO MAD ^ Acting Secretary ^ � r'`e /� - r- � MINUfES OF THE REGULAR PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING. MAY �., 1973� " Meeting was�called to order at 7:30 p.m., by Chairman Blair. n MEMBERS PRESENT: Blair, Caldwell, Peterson, Stimmler, Wagar. �. MEMBERS EXCUSED: None. OTHERS PRESENT: Dennis Ranstrom, 3728 Foss Road N.E., Columbia Heights, 55421. Paul Brown, Director of Parks �, Recreation. RICc CREEK PROPERTY� 4 1f Mr. Dennis Ranstrom presented his proposal for possible home construction at Lots 10 and 11, Block 1, Rice Creek School Addition. MOTIDN b tVa .ucec.ian � � na�r,t .ati e a o,f a� 10 a OAK GROVE PROPERTY� � n Secanded 6 S�',imm.�e�c, �a canculc w.i.th. �he Pcuch�5 and Rec�cea�ian n, e mcun can.a�ic.uc.%.�n a� e an wa e ane ang �he CnPe an x eJce .c�s na �s eqtic v�e an e awetc �an,t,c.an . � �,e Ma�,c.an ccwuea. In reference to Paul Brown's memorandum dated May 17, 1973, to the Parks and Recreation and Planning Commissions, the Commissioners voted to agree that this piece of land fits within our overall plan to acquire as much Rice Creek land as possible. The Commission felt that a limit o£ $300.00 should be placed on the purchase of the property. MO7ION 6 S�',imm.2e>r, Secanded b an Rec�cea�c.vn ,c�c.ec�an., a n " an �a �n.c, eu Pcvc w.i.t � VACATION OF 6�TH STREET EASEMENT� �a c�ncutc cvi,ih xhe necammenda,t.i.an a . e r�u�cc e a a , a c , e exceea. �suu. uu. �he Pcut.h� nave Ma�i.a n Mr. Blair updated the Commission on the request of Craig Willey to vacate the street easement on 67th between Fridley and Anoka Streets. In March, the Parks and Recreation Commission referred Mr. Willey to the Board of Appeals, with no objections to the vacation. Mr. Blair stated that the Board of Appeals and Planning Commissions had no objections to the vacation and sent their recommendation to the Council. MINUTES OF APRIL Z3. I9Tj MEETING� MOTION 6y S�',i.mm.2etc, Secande.d by Pe.ie�an, �a ap�rcave �f�.e m�.n.u,te,� a� �he Regu.£.at�. Pcvch�s and Rec�ce.�,t,i.on Camm.i�a�.an Mee,ti.Kg, da�ed Apn,i,2 23, 1473. The Ma�c,an ca�c�c.i.ed. MOORE LAKE BEACH & PARK� Mr. Brown informed the Commission of the sa£ety �rocedures being taken at Moore Lake Beach and Park, before the season opens. The Commission generally discussed the growing�problems involve.d with the Beach. M�TI�N by Pe,te�r,�an, Seconde.d by Wagan, �a maFze �,nqcun,i.e�s w.i.th Ramdey Caurzty a.wthon,i.t,i.e�s �,n nea pec.t �a �Gce.itc ryca cedwce,� and p�.?,i,c.i,e�s u�i.th hanci.P.i.ng Beache,t„ . The Ma�.a n ca�vu.ed . � M�TT�N � � baan cus Secanded 6 Pe.telusan, �a mah.e ev ..�s m.us�Se an � 2 Summe�c, al� a�t �a open �he Beach a� e. e a�c,a n ccc�vu.e . Mr. Blair directed Mr. Brown to re£�ect the need for additional protection at the Beach, in the 1974 Budget request. He asked that this be listed as a separate item. �� Minutes o£ Regular Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting, May 21, 1973. Page 2 � �°QRE LAKE BEACH STUDY� Proposals were submitted to the City by three Companies, in connection wi�h a study ^ of the conditions at Moore Lake. The Commission made general comments on the proposals and deferred further discussion to the June meeting. The Commission directed which have been made on from Grace High School. NORTH PARK STUDY� the Parks and Recrea�ion Director to investigate..any studys the Lake, and particularily the one by Brother Sullivan Mr. Blair informed the Commission of a May 22nd meeting concerning North Park and requested that as many of them as possible, be present. He stated that the Commission should make an official stand on the development of North Park. GARDENA SCHOOL PROPERTY LEASING� The Commission reviewed the Council Minutes in respect to plans which have been made to lease part of school property owned by School District #14. Members of the Commission did not appreciate the fact that they had not been informed of the pending arrangements between the City and School Officials. The Commissioners expressed concern over the funding of the project and pointed out that the Council is not following the City Ordinance which created the Commission_ and its duties and powers. t� PARK� ^ M�TION by Ca2dwe.�,e, Secav�de.d by Pe.ie�c�san, �a �.ws�'tcu.c,i �he Summetc S�:a{�� a �tcamaxe a"Name Hyde Pwc.h." cawt�s� w,i.tGi,i.n �he Yxaygn�und }'nagnam. The h4a�i,an catvued. C.OMMISSION VICE CHAIRMAN� Gary Stimmler was appointed, by aclamation, to serve as the 1973 Parks and Recreation Commission Vice Chairman. CORRESPONDENCE� M07I�N by S�',imm.2etr., Secanded by wagcvc, �:a nece,ive a,P.� cofvice�s�andence. The Ma�',i.an catvu.ed . �:ra;�1�1:�►�u1�►�M M�TI�N �a adfoutcn �he mee.ti..ng ct,i 9:35 p.m. The next regular meeting will be held June 11, 1973, at 7:30 p.m., in the Community Room of Fridley Civic Center. Respec � / t PB:cs ly ubmitted, � , Acting Secretary e Commission �� ^ BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF JUNE 21, 1973 � The meeting was called to order by Chairman Lindblad at 8:11 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Lindblad, Tonco, Treuenfels, Cariolano ` NIEMBERS ABSENT: Simoneau OTHERS PRESENT: Jerrold Boardman, Planning Assistant MOTION by Treuenfels, seconded by Cariolano to approve the minutes of .the June 7, 1973 meeting as written. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 1. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO CONSTRL'CT AN ADDITI01�' FOR MANUFACTURING A:'�D 14AREHOUSE PURPOSES LOCATED ON LOT 6, � AUDITOR'S REVISED SUBDIVISION \t0. 77, T}iE SAi�1E BEIi�iG 99-7TTH WAY N.E., FRIDLEY, bIINN. (REQUEST BY BARRY BLOWER, . . 99-7TTH WAY N.b. , FRIDLEY, AIINN. 55432 j , " Mr. Ben Mayerson and Mr. Richard Costello were present for the request. Mr. Boardman said he had set up a iandscaping plan for the building site. � He explained that the City does this occasionally so their ideas can be incor- porated and put in to use and beautify the industrial areas in Fridley. � Mr. Boardman gave Mr. Mayerson a copy of the landscape plan. Mr. Mayerson went over briefly the major changes on the building site. The addition will measure approximately 299 feet by 116 feet. The land directly across from the present building has already been purchased and will be used for parking. Also the propane storage tank located c2ose to the building will be moved directly to the south of the building, about in the center of the building site. The addition will be used mainly for warehouse purposes and some area will be used for manufacturing. Barry Blower operates on a double shift with a fifteen minute interval between shifts. Mr. Mayerson said the reason they are coming before the City now is so they can get all the problems ironed out and the approval given before going before the Board of Directors of Barry Blower in the middle of July. Mr. Lindblad asked if there are enough parking stalls for the site. Mr. Boardman said no, but they (Barry Blower) are working on the acquisition of an outlot located directly to the West of the building. This outlot is land- locked and the size is approximately 2/3 of an acre. Mr. Boardman said the City feels the purchase of this land is a must. On the present plan there are 130 parking stalls and the City says there has to be at least 200 because of the square footage of the building. (Outlot A, Section 3) � Mr. Mayerson said if Barry Blower can purchase the outlot, the parking stall t � area would be brought up to about 250 stalls within the required amount. ._ 19 � BUTLDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF JUNE 21, 1973--Page Two �. Mr. Lindblad asked if the parking area will be blacktopped and have poured concrete curbing, and if 10 foot radii was provided at the entrances. Mr. Mayerson said yes, concrete curbing will be used around the entire parking area. In addition there will be a fence around the parking lot on the South, East and West sides . .� Mr. Boardman said the fence would be a cedar, 6 foot high fence, with a staggered vertical board style. Mr. Boardman also asked how high the propane storage tank was. Mr. Mayerson said about ten feet, with two feet in the ground. Mr. Boardman said we would like to see some type of berming and planting in front of the tank. Barry Blower should be able to get plen ty of fill for the berming needed from the excavation. � The City would also like to see berming along 77th Way in front of the parking � areas. The berming areas would be the only area with grass. The area inside the fence and between the parking stalls would,consist of a low maintenance mat- erial such as wood chips. Mr. Lindblad asked if this was the final landscaping plan, Mr. Boardman said yes. , Mr. Lindblad asked what type of lighting, especially security lighting, was provided. Mr. Costello said there was no definite plan. Mr. Boardman and Mr. Lindblad � both said there would have to be some type of lighting provided for the parking lot, not only for the comp any's safety, but also for the employees. ^ Mr. Tonco asked where the present lighting on the building was located. Mr. Costello said along the side of the railroad tracks and above the front door. � Mr. Tonco suggested carrying the lights further down the side of the building to get lighting on the addition. It was pointed out that the lighting in the parking lot should be directed towards°the parking lot and Barry Blower's building so as not to shine on the apartments to the west of the parking lot. Mr. Lindblad asked what type of drainage plan there was. Mr. Boardman said this would have to be worked out with the Engineering Department, but a possibility would be to direct it towards 77th Way. Mr. Lindblad asked what type of refuse solution they had. Mr. Mayerson said there were dumpsters located outside of the building by the loading dock (west side). If they can acquire the out�ot, the ch�mpsters could be put back of the building (South) and would not be seen here. Mrs. Treuenfels asked what good the land would be to the present owners since it is so small and landlocked. Mr. Mayerson said this is the same way he felt, and hoped that they could acquire the land with no problems. Mr. Boardman said this should be one of the stip u-lations that Barry Blower acquire this property. �,,, • Mr. Mayerson said the Board should be reasonable on this item. If the owner wants to sell it for a ridiculous price then they would not be able to purchase it. t� He felt that the company should be allowed some consideration of the fact that , they came to Fridley ten years ago and at that time they were in accordance with the�codes. Now they are trying to bring themselves up to code again, but they still have the same size lot they had ten years ago, and they should not be beared down on if they cannot purchase this outlot for a fair price. Mr. Boardman said �� BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE-MEETING OF JUNE 21, 1973--Page Three /'`� � the City realizes this, but if Barry Blower should sell the building at some future date and the new owner has to have a larger p ersonnel staff then the same problem arises again, the land should be purchased while there is a purchase price on it. But the City is willing to work with Barry Blower on this problem because they are a good company and Fridley would }�ate to see them move to� another community. Mr. Lindblad said it should be stated in the motion that Barry Blower is doing everything possible to purchase this l�d for additional parking area. The Board went over the exterior of the building. The office will be brick and the rest will be a painted block. The Board suggested that the addition will inatch the existing bui lding's exterior. MOTION by Tonco, seconded by Cariolano to recommend to Council the approval of the addition on Barry Blower with the following stipulations: 1. A 6' cedar, staggerec� vertical board fence be placed around the parking lot on all sides except 77th Way. 2. Concrete curbing be placed around the entire parking areas. 3. Lightingin the parking lot be provided and pointed away from the � ap artments nearby. n 4. Security lights be placed on the building, plan ready for City staff approval beiore going to Council. 5. Drainage plan be worked out with the $ngineering Department. 6. All efforts be made to acquire the land (Outlot A) for additional parking area. ,, 7. The landscaping plan as presented by the City be used. 8. The painted block on the exterior of the warehouse match the existing building. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 2. CONSIDERATION OF A REQJEST TO CONSTRUCT AN ADDITION FOR ADDITIONAL STORE RENTAL USE LOCAT�D Oiv' LOT 19, BLOCK 2, SPRING VALLEY ADDITIG:��, THE SA�tE BEING 1315 RICE CREEK ROAD, FRIDLEY, , iI;r.�ESOT.a. (REQUFST BY �ICf: ERti�T, REP- RESEI�iTING THE R. C. �. CORPORATION, �tR. 'cRNST HAS ,aLRE.aDY EEN TO BUILDI.`�G STrLtiD.aRDS FOR A 7-ELE1iEN STOFcE LOCATED AT THE SA�lE SIfiE. :�T TH�T TI�fE ONLY STIPULATIOVS FOR THE 7-ELEVEN STORE �tiERE DECIDED ON) -' ^ i 1 Mr. Dick Ernst was present for the request. .. �1 �1 BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF JUNE 21, 1973--Pa e Four ^. Mr. Boardman explained that Mr. Ernst had already gone over the plans with Mr. Qureshi, and that some changes needed were easements required by the City. They are: 1. 15 foot drainage easement running along the back of the building. 2. 16 foot easement needed along the est side for possible future road. 3. 5 foot easement along Rice Creek Road, and one parking row for possible future right turn lane, as shown on plan 6/ZT/73. Also changed by the Engineering Department was: 1. The sidewalk along the west side of the building changed from 10 feet _ to 8 feet so the 16 foot easement may be acc{uired. This will give a 6 foot berm area at this end of the parking area. � 2. The opening in the curb for the drainage will be changed from blasktop curbing to poured concrete curbing. Mr. Ernst said the parking lot for outfall reasons was raised 1 foot and the �store elevation was also raised l foot. Mrs. Treuenfels noted that when the 7-eleven Store first came to the Board, /1 the drainage plan was going to be worked out with the Engineering Department, and shE wanted to know if this was done yet. Mr. Boardman said not entirely, � but the City is fairly settled on this building�s needs. The Board also pointed out that the blacktopping and poured concrete curbing would be completed at the time the addition was built. Mr. Ernst said this was going to be done. All other items, security lights, refuse, landscaping, exterior of the site were finalized when the item came before the Board on May 24, 1973. MOTION by Cariolano, seconded by Treuenfels, to recommend to Council the approval of the b uilding of the addition with the following stipulations: 1. 16 foot easement be acquired on the est side. 2• 5 foot easement along Rice Creek Raod, and one parking row. 3. 15 foot drainage easement be acquired on the rear yard. 4. Sidewalk be changed from 10 feet to 8 feet to allow for the 16 foot easement and leaving a 6 foot berming strip. S. Drainage opening be changed from hlacktop to poured concrete curbing. ^ UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. � 1 � ^ BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE I�ETING OF JUNE 21, 1973--Page Five ^ 3. CONSIDERATION OF A RE UEST TO REMODEL THE NORTH STAR GAS STATION LOCATED ON LOTS 1-S, BLOCK 7, BERLIN ADDITION, THE SAME BEING 4040 MARSHALL AVENUE, FRIDLEY, i:INNESOTA. (REQUEST BY vORTH STAR OIL COMPANY, 4040 MARSHALL AVENUE, FRIDLEY, L•IINNESOTA) . � ., No ane was present for the request. Mr. Boardman said the City had talked with the contractor about the request and explained what changes the City would like to see. There will have to be a definite landscape plan and cleaning up of the area. Also the truck parked to the side of the building will have to be removed and the area sodded. If any signs have to be repaired, this will also be done. Mr. Boardman suggested to the Board that they approve the request because the owner definitely wants to improve the site and this only benefits the City, also the City staff will handle the landscaping and clean-up of the area. As far as the remodeling of the building, again it is only an improvement for the City. The new look will be artificial brick on the front with blue alwninum shingles for the fascia. DIr. Boardman did say there was a painted sign on the side of the building which should be removed. " MOTION by Tonce, seconded by Treuenfels, that the Board recommend approval to Council the remodeling request with the following stipulations: ^ 1. Landscaping plan be worked out between the City and developer. �� 2. The clean-up program be worked out with the City. 3. Any signs that have to be repaired will be repaired at this time. 4. The brick on the side of the building will be painted (this will cover the sign painted on the side of the building). UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 4.. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT A 155 UNIT COMPLEX OF TOi'VNHOUSES, LOCATED ON THE EAST HALF OF THE N�RTHEAST �UARTER OF THE SOUTHiVEST QUARTER OF SECTION 14, T-30, R-24, �XCEPT THE SOUTH 185.0 FEET THEREOF AND EXCEPT P:.RCELS A� AND B, THE SAME BEING BORDERED BY 63RD AVENUE ON THE SOUTH, • MISSISSIPPI STREET ON THE NORTH, 7TH STREET ON THE EAST AND 5TH STREET ON THE {VEST. (REQUEST BY THE 1VALL CORPORATION. AVENUE, I�iINNEAPOLIS TA. Mr. Frank Reese was present for the req,uest. Mr. Reese said there had been a lot of effort put into this development and the final evaluation was a townhouse development. ^ Mr. Tonco asked what was going to be done with the three proposed ponds shown � on the plan, if these were going to be used for drainage, and if there was going to be a stagnant water problem. � ^ BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF JUNE 21, 1973--Page Six � Mr. Reese said there will be a recirculatian fountain located on the north end of the ponds. This will help keep the water flowing and should help eliminate some of the potential for the stagnant water. There is also a skimmer located along 63rd Avenue. This would stop such items as �.eaves, twigs, candy wrappers and other debris. D9rs. Treuenfels said this means maintenance of the skimmer, and how ofteri would this be done and by wliom. Mr. Reese said it would probably be done as often as needed and by the development's maintenance man. This would be finalized in the association bylaws. The elevation towards 63rd Avenue is 846 feet and the elevation at the opposite end is 840 feet. The ponds will have an elevation of 836 feet to keep the water in, but will also drain the area. In esse.nce it is a huge bathtub. Mr. Reese also went on to say that according to the Engineering Department's computations, for the size of the area and density, 12 acre-feet is needed for water storage, and these three ponds should provide the needed storage area. These ponds will be about 4 feet in depth, vinyl lined and have a concrete or similar edge (non-vinyl edge is needed to protect the pool in th� winter from the i ce and skaters ). . The Board said they were not aware that the ponds were constructed of this type of material and this should heip in keeping_the water from becoming stagnant. � Mr. Reese said the ponds will be kept at a certain elevation in dry seasons. �,,, Mrs. Treuenfels said if a hole is poked into the liner, a lot of water can be lost. Mr. Lindblad asked where the water will come from to keep the eleva�ion up. Mr. Reese said from the City c�rater system. Mr. Lindblad asked what happens if there is a water emergency and only watering can be done on odd or even days, since these addresses are both odd and even, water could be placed in this pool everyday through the water emergency period. Mr. Reese said if such an emergency did arise, the water in the pond would have to be allowed to dissipate. Mr. Lindblad said that one of the stipulations should be that the City can control the filling of these ponds during a dry season. Mr. Boardman said this would probably be handled in the association bylaws, and before final approval of the developemnt is granted by the City, the bylaws of the association have to be on hand for the City. Mr. Tonco asked if the developer could put in their own well. Mr. Reese said this has been done in other developments and could be a possibility for this one. Mrs. �ariolano wanted to know if the developer had considered using the water from this area and putting it through an underground watering sprinkling system. She said since this area is so close to City Hall and somewhat in the center of Fridley, the area should be kept green, and this underground system would also .help in eliminating any stagnant water problem. Mr. Reese said this idea could also be looked into by the developer. Mr. Reese pointed-out that he was hired ^ by the Wall Corporation and cou13 not make any final decisions for the plan, but could only suggest ideas. The Board felt Mr. Reese should present this idea to �� the developer and try to pursue it as rauch possible. C�3 ^ BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF JUNE 21, 1973--Page Seven � Mrs. Treuenfels asked what type of protection was provided for the area around the ponds, as small children will be living here and are naturally attracted to water. Mr. Ree se� said no protection was provided as fa as a fence around the ponds, due to the fact that this is a drainage.area and the water will be higher and lower from the fence according to the drainage at that particular time. Also these areas are for an esthetic value to the area, and would be ruined by fences. He said some dense bushes along the pond edges, where there are no walkways, could be planted. Mr. Reese said the tot lots do have a berming strip to the rear and benches in the front. yhis setup seems to keep the children confined somewhat. Mrs. Treuenfels said when she built her backyard pool she was required by the City to put a 6 foot fence around it, the main purpose being so small children do not get into it. Mr. Boardman said the fence was also required for health reasons. Mrs. Treuenfels asked if a fence could be rec{uired for the townhouses. Mr. Reese said for the above reasons a fence would not be placed. He said the recreation building would provide a swimming pool for the people, as well as other facilities. Mrs. Treuenfels said the swimming pool will not take the attrac- tion away from the ponds for the children. Mr. Tonco said they could drown in these ponds if the water was only 6 inches deep. Mr. Reese felt it would be impossible to totally safeguard everyone from an area they move into. It would mean fencing all streets to keep the children from 'going on to them, the parents ^ have to take some initiative if they choose to live here. �.,� Mr. Lindblad asked what type of lighting was provided. Mr. Reeg� said a footpat� type light will be used throughout the area. He said they had looked into a 6 foot redwood pole lamp with approximately a 100 watt bulb, and be placed � 50 feet on center. There would be a small dome over the bulb so as to direct the light down on to the path and not into someones home. Mr. Lindblad pointed out that these lights should be in remote areas, so as not to shine in someones home. Mr. Lindblad asked what type of solution would be provided for the refuse. Mr. Reese• said this handled by each individual home owner with a common grouping. Mr. Reese said they had looked at an aluminum type with a lift up lid. He also said that the meters and air conditioning units would be grouped hopefully by twos on the outside of the building. At these areas they would like to do some planting to hide the equipment. Mr. Lindblad asked what plan for landscaping had been provided. �1r. Ree�e - said a final plan was not provided. However, he said shade trees woulcl be planted around the perimeter, s�;aller decorating shrubs in the courts, planting around the outside equipment, planting and berming around the tot lots, and at the entrances. There will be no seedling, and the entire area will be sodded. Mrs. Treuenfels asked if they would try to utilize the existing trees in the area. Mr. Reese . said yes, as much as possible. Mrs. Treuenfels asked if any area was left for private flower gardens. /� Mr. Reese said most people will take this onto themselves. They have to leave something in the order of caring of the landscape, as most people like to do �� this t e of lantin Usuall eo le will lace lanters or ots on their atios, YP P g• Y P P P P P P along the driveways, etc. ^ . �� BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF JUNE 21, 1973--Page Eight /'1 . Mr. Reese Went over the building�s exterior. T'hey will use a wood frame with straight wall construction and wood on the outside, Texture 1-11 plywood. Mr. Tonco said this a good siding, but would also like to see something else done to the ex�erior besides stained wood. Mr. Boardman asked if �the Planning Commission had recommended the use of brick on the exterior of the building. Mr. Lindblad said yes, but they had a question on where the brick would be used, also if fences would be used on the homes. Mr. Reese suggested bri�k along the street houses, brick up to the windows on some of the homes, and a possible fence extended out from the house forlrivag. He said the staining would probably have a three tone idea, the siding, trim, and shingles stained differently in coordinating colors. Groups of townhouses woinld have different color schemes. They could also use a fake brick or veener brick around the fireplaces. Mr. Reese explained the homes would have three bedrooms with a possible fourth bedroom. Mr. Boardman asked where windows would be located on the buildings. Mr. Reese said the end building would have windows on the one end and front and back, the middle home would only have windows on the front and back. He said windows would not be placed on the ends of the buildings if it would mean looking into someones backyard and losing their privacy. Mrs. Treuenfels asked about the recreation building. Mr. ReeSe said they had planned a 2,000 square foot building, cut it down to 900 square feet, but /"'\ the City had made them bring it to its former size. He said an indoor swimming pool, saunas, party room and warming house would be provided. Mr. Lindblad r"� asked if they were not suppose to provide a tennis court. Mr. Reese said Council strongly recommended it, however, the developer does not plan on putting one in now, but wi1l�Ieave space for a posstble future court. Mr. Lindblad asked if they had changed the driveway off the intersection of 7th Street and Mississippi Street (stipulated by the Planning Commission). Mr. ReeSe said yes, they had moved the entrance to be directly across from Bennett Drive. This caused a small shuffle of the first group of townhouses, but this should eliminate the possible stacking problem of cars waiting to get onto Mississippi Street. Mr. Boardman said there could someday be lights located at this intersection. Mr. Boardman said one of the stipulations put on by the Board would be to provide a sidewalk alon� 7th Street and 63rd Avenue. Another stipulation should be a right-of-way right turn lane off of 7th Street onto Mississippi Street as agreed upon in the original agreement. - Mr. Reese said privacy will be provided by berming of these backyards along Mississippi Street and 63rd Avenue. Also the landscaping of trees and shrubs will help. Due to the high density level here, they had to compensate with other factors, such as; ponds, the recreation building, good landscaping and the different designs of the private backyards. Some of the homes will have walkout patios, deck patios, or walkout basements. ^ MOTION by Tonco, seconded by Cari�lano, to recommend to Council the approval �� of the townhouse develop�ent based on the preliminary plans as presented to the Board this evening with the following stipulations: 1. The stipulations put on by the Planning Commission must be followed. 2. The use of brick shall be brought into the exterior plan of the building. � ^ � /'� /'� � � � �� BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF JUNE 21, 1973--Page Nine 3. Sidewalk easement shall be given along 63rd Avenue and 7th Street. 4. The right-of-way right turn lane off of 7th Street onto Mississippi Street be followed as per the original agreement. ,,. 5. Lighting on pathways be remote from the homes. 6. The possible underground sprinkling system be strongly looked into by the developer. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Chairman Lindblad adjourned the meeting at 10:15 p.m. Respectfully Submitted, ��l�k�� --- Paula R. Long � Secretary ^ ^ _ �1 � n � � �G �% THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF JUNE 26, 1973�� The meeting was called to order by Chairma.n Drigans at 7:35 P.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Drigans, Harju, MF�ERS ABSENT: Crowder, Gabel OTHERS PRESENT: Howard Ma.ttson - Wahlberg Engineering Aide MOTION by Wahlberg, seconded by Harju, to approve the minutes of therJune 12, 1973 meeting as written. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. 1. A REQUEST FOR VARIANCES OF: SECTION 45.134, 3A, FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO INCREASE__THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE FROM 40 PER CENT TO 45 PER C�NT, SECTION 45.135, 2, TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FROM 200 TO 150, SECTION 45.134, 6, T0 REDUCE REQUIRED DISTANCE FROM ANOTHER ZONING DISTRICT FROM 50 FEET TO 25 FEET, AND SECTION 45.135, 1, E1, TO ALLOW PARKING IN THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD, TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING BUILDING LOCATED ON PARCELS 8850 AND 8840, SOUTH HALF OF SECTION 3, AND PARCELS 1350, 1400 AND PART OF PARCEL 1500, AUDITOR'S SUBDIVISION ��77, THE SAME BEING 99 - 77th WAY N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA. (REQUEST BY BARRY-BLOWER- DIVISION OF WEIL - MCLAIN COMPANY, INC., 99- 77TH WAY N,E., FRIDLEY, MI131�TESOTA) Mr. Gauger and Mr. Mayeron of Mayeron Engineers, were present to present the request. MOTION by Wahlberg, seconded by Harju, to waive reading the public hearing notice. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried unanimowsly. Chairma.n Drigans asked when the buildings had been built, specifically Building � �2, which was built 25 feet instead of 50 feet from the property line. Mr. Gauger said Building ��2 was built in 1966. Mr. Harju asked what the increase in the number of employees would be, and Mr. Gauger said the maximum increase would be about 20. At this point, Mr. Dick Fudali, of 5 Sands Development Company, came forward. He stated that he was the owner of the property and the apartments just north of Barry Blower. He stated his objections to the Barry Blower addition to be; 1. The visual impact of an even larger factory for the occupants of his buildings, particularly the one building facing directly towards Barry Blower. 2. The noise level with the ma.nufacturing, the trucks, and the cars. 3. The possible drainage problem with the creek. Mr. Fudali went on at length about the drainage problem because he said he had been hasselad greatly by the City's Engineering Department over this matter. He said that at one point he was even told he had to move one of his buildings a hundred feet further away from the creek. Chairman Drigans asked about the drainage problem with the creek in that area. Mr. Mattson said that he hadn't been infoxtned of any problems there. He said that since Barry Blower's property line was about 15 or 20 feet away from the creek it would seem that the questions of drainage would be more on 5 Sand's property than on Barry Blower's. Then the discussion turned to the parking lot. A questions was asked about the zoning of that property. Mr. Mattson said that the part next to the railroad tracks was zoned M-1 and the rest of the land was R-3. In any case a parking lot is permissable in an R-3 Zoning area. � �� The Minutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee Meeting of June 26, 1973 Page 2 � Mr. Sether, whose property abuts the proposed Barry Blower parking lot, objected to this parking area because of all the cars coming and going and because of the � noise pollution. It was pointed out to him that there would be considerable landscaping in this area plus a six foot staggered cedar fence between the parking lot and all adjoining property. Chairman Drigans then asked about the size and status. of Outlot A wl�ich is to be used for additional parking if and when it can be purchased. Mr. Gauger said the lot was about 0.54 acres and that Barry Blower had sent an earnest money check to Premier Realty with an offer to purchase the property in question. The offer was turned down but the owners indicated they would consider a figure of $1.00/square foot (about $25,000). Mr. Gauger said that such a price was out of the question but that they would continue in their efforts to purchase said Outlot A. Mr. Harju asked Mr. Gauger what they would do about the parking if they had a third shift. Mr. Gauger said that Barry Blower's type of business did not lend itself to a third shift. There was some discussion about squaring off the new portion of the building. Mr. Gauger said it would be possible but that they really needed every last ^ square foot of space they could get. • ^ Chairma.n Drigans asked for a motion to close the public hearing. MOTION by Harju, seconded by Wahlberg, to close the public hearing. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried unanimously. The Board discussed the variances. MOTION by Harju to x�cnmtnend �� Council, approval of the variances, with the following stipulations: l. The rear lot variance from 50 feet to 25 feet be approved provided Barry Blower seeds their rear lot area to prevent erosion into the creek and that Barry Blower work out the drainage requirement with the Engineering Department. 2. The parking variance from 200 stalls to 150 stalls and the lot coverage from 40 per cent to 45 per cent be approved pravided Barry Blower shows a sincere attempt to continue negotiations for purchase of Outlot A, Pearson's Second Addition. 3. The parkix�g in the front yard has been resolved. Seconded by Wahlberg. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried unanimously. It was-moved and seconded to receive a copy of the Premier Realty Company letter turning down Barry Blower's offer to buy Outlot A and stating an offer to sell. ^ ADJOURNMENT • � ` ` MOTION by Wahlberg, seconded by Harju, to adjourn the meeting at 9:15 P.M. Upon a voice vote, there being,'=no nays, the motion carried unanimously. 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