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PL 10/17/1973 - 7469�� A G E N D A PLANNING COr1MISSION MEETING OCTOBER 17, 1973 CALL TO ORDER: ROLL CALL; APPP-.OVF PLANNING COt-L•4ISSION T�IIi1UT�S : SEPTEMBER 26, 1973 APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSTON MTNUTES: OCTOBER 3, 1973 RECEIVE PARICS & RECREATION COI�':�'viISSION MINUTES : SEPTEi�1BEt� 24, 1973 REC�IVE BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 25, 1973 RECETVE BUTLDING STZ�NDARDS-DESIGN CONTRUL �SUBCODZP�IITTEE P�IINUT�S : SE��TEi��IBEP, 2 7, 19 73 $:00 P.M. PAGES 1 - 13 14 - 32 33 - 37 38 - 39 40 - 45 �''\ y 1• PUBLIC Hi;ARITJG : A REQUFST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERT�lIT, 4 6 - 5l � SP �73-10, BY TRYGVE O�L,SFN, to construct a 16'xl6' tool shed on Lot 4, Block 1, Riverwood Manor Addition, per Fr�dley City Code, Section 45.051,�2, A. The same being 7145 Riverview Terrace N.E. �� 2• CON'1'INUED : REVIETr? OF CR�EK AND RIVFR PRESERVATION MANAGE��iENT ORDINANCE (bring book et 3• PR�SENTATION �Y� GENERAL CHE�SEP�IAN ON THE ARMORY PROPOSAL Postponed because of conflicting dates. � . � �� ' `/ �� /� . � ➢ � ,� �� . . 52 53 .� � � CITY OF FRIDLEY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SEPTEMBER 26, 1973 PAGE 1 CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Fitzpatrick called the meeting to order at 8:00 P.M. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Members Absent: Others Present: Fitzpatrick, B1air, Lindblad, Harris, Drigans None Darrel Clark, Nasim Qureshi, Engineer Community Development Adm: Acting City Manager, City APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION.MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 12, 1973 MOTION by Harris, seconded by Liridblad, that the. Planning Commisszon approve the minutes of the meeting of September 12, I973 as written. Upon a voice vote, alI votinq aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 5, 1973 MOTION by Blair, seconded by Drigans, that the Planning Commission receive the minutes of the Parks & Recreation Commission meeting of September 5, 1973. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 11, 1973 MOTION by Drigans, seconded by B1air, that the Planning Commission receive the minutes of the Board of Appeals meeting of September I1, 1973. Upon a voice vote, a1Z voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 1. CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A REZONING RE�U�ST, ZOA �73-08, BY NORTH SUBUR�AN HOSPITAL DISTRICT: Rezone from R-1 (single family dwelling areas) to CR-1 (general office and limited business), the area South of 76th Avenue N.E.; East of 5th Street N.E.; North of 75th Avenue N.E.; and West of Unity Hospital, to allow construction of a medical office building�'. Public Hearing open. /'� .� Mr. John Haines, Administrator of Unity Hospital, Mr. Robert Va� Haue� President of Health Central Inc., and Mr. Al Eihlers, Archicect, Health Central, Inc. were present to represent the petitioner. Planning Commission Meeting - September 26, 1973 Page 2 � Chairman Fitzpatrick said the last time this was on the agenda, the Planning Commission made the request that the North Suburban Hospital District come back with a more limited request. � Mr. John H�ines, Administrator of Unity Hospital, introduced Mr. Robert Van Hauer and Mr. Al Eihlers, who will present more details on this request. Mr. Van Hauer said he would like to read a letter that was given to him by the doctor's group to present to the Chairman of the Planning Commission. The letter from the Unity Medical �� Center, dated September 6, 1973, is as follows: " Dear Mr. Fitzpatrick: To put to rest some of the fears and xeservations expressed - by neighbors of the North Suburban Hospital District's property, we would like to ma};e the following statement regarding the medical office building we propose to build. We propose to build this office building as close to Unity Hospital as is legally possible. To do this, we will be applying for a variance to allow us to build right up to the property line on the east side of the property we plan to purchase from the North Suburban Hospital District. If we receive permission to do such, the building will be located approximately 450 feet east of 5th Street N.E. The first stage of�the building we plan to build will stand three floors above ground, with each floor containing approximately 10,000 square feet. . - The leasing of office space in the physicians' office building shall be limited to health professionals. This will include, but is not limited to, phys•icians, dentists, oral surgeonsr clinical psychologists, psyehiatric social workers, and allied mental health personnel. � Ancillary uses other than office space sha11 be limited to those commercial enterprises designed to serve the doctors and dentists and their personnel and patients. Such ancillary uses would include things such as a professional pharmacy, an optical company, possibly a card and flower shop, and poss- ibly at a later date a coffee shop. ° Mr. Van Hauer said this was signed by four doctors in the partnership, one being Dr. Shattuck who was presently chief-of-staff of Unity Hospital. MOTION hy Drigans, second by 81a�ir, that the Planning Commission �� ..rOCeive the letter from the Unity Medical Center, dated September , 6th, 1973. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Planning Commission Meeting - September 26. 1973 Page 3 ,�-1 Mr. Van Hauer followed the reading of the letter with a presentation of colored slides showing from various angles where the medical center would be located in relation to Unity Hospital. He said the area they were discussing was a three acre tract on the North portion of the original eleven acres of the rezoning request. He said there would be another lane put in the driveway that leads to the proposed location of the medical center. He said that a 50 foot berm is planned around the perimeter of the property and this will provide screening from the residential area. This will be planted with trees and low plantings. , Mr. Fitzpatrick asked how many offices this building will provide. Mr. Van Hauer said some doctors need more space than others, depending upon their specialty, but the average would be about 750 t0 800 square feet in average so there would be room for about 25 to 30 doctors. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked if there were calculations on when this building would be up and occupied. Mr. Van Hauer said that according to the present.timetable the construction would start in the spring or early summer ot 1974. It would take about 12 months to complete the building which would make the opening in about July of 1975. At the� � present time there are ll doctors who have conunitted themselves to leasing space in this building which is about 1/3 of what is � needed. They.expect to have it 2/3 leased by the day it opens, and within a year of the opening, July 1, 1976, the building will be fully occupied. They are allowing space for a second building which may not be needed for 10 years, and additional parking, when it is needed. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked if there would only be specialists in this building. Mr. Van Hauer said there would be no restrictions, but up to the present time, a family practicioner most generally likes to have his own small building, although this trend is changing also. . Mr. Fitzpatrick said that in the letter presented it mentioned a long list of health professionals that would be using this build- � ing but said it was not limited to what was listed. Why was this statement in the letter? Mr. Van Hauer said there is a new field of paramedics, for instance, and this was mentioned because the medica� tield is undergoing many changes . Mr. Harris asked who would awn the land where the medical center would be l�cated. Mr. Van Hauer said the doctor's group would. Mr. Harris said this could not be a land locked parcel of land. Mr. Van Hauer said they will �ave access to the driveway ^ : to Osborne Road and to the undeveloped 76th Avenue. Mr. Harris asked why they had to have a variance for this building when they have three acres to locate the building. Planning Commission Meeting - September 26, 1973 Page 4 � Mr. Van Hauer said they want to hav� this medical center as close to Unity Hospital as possible because it will be con- nected to Unity by a skywalk that would be an all-weather passage- wa�. They c:�uld�'t sell the doctor's group any property closer to the hospital because this was the first parcel bought by the North Suburban Hospital District and was indentured by a bond issue. The parcel they are selling was purchased later and does not have this indenture. Mr. Harris asked who would own and maintain the skyway. Mr. Van Hauer said the skyway would be located on the North Suburban Hospital District property, so they would have to build it, own it, and maintain it. He said they would be granting an easement to the doctor's group to use this skyway, and the egress to Osborne and the use of the hospital parking lots for overflow parking. Mr. Harris asked haw many stories this building will have. Mr. Van Hauer said there would be three stories above grade and one below. The skyway will be at the second floor level. Mr. Al Eilers said the exterior of the medical building will match aesthetically Unity Hospital and the North Suburban Hospital Board has reserved the right to approve the exterior appearance of ^ the building as well as the general design to ensure that it will . match the existing buildings. Mr. Haines.said that if the Planning Commission wanted to handle this request in a more apprapriate way th,an rezoning, the North . Suburban Hospital Board had no objection as long as it would accomplish the same thing. Mr. Clark said the City code was changed in 1969 to allow clinics in an R-1 area with a Special Use Permit. The Planning Commission can recammend this instead of rezoning, i� they wish, because it is more restrictive. Mr. Clark asked if they had brought a legal description of the parcel they wanted to sell to the doctor's group. Mr. Van Hauer said they haven't had any survey made of this property because the originaZ request was for`the entire eleven acres, but they can have a survey made of this portion in a week or so. Mr. Fitzpatrick said we would want this legal description for describing the parcel involved in this request. Mr. Drigans asked what hours this clinic would be open. Mr. Van Hauer said the normal hours for specialists would be from 8 to 5 and he was sure this would be the hours the pharmaey would be open � � also. He said he wouldn't want to make the statement that these caere the exact hours they would be open, because the medical profession has found that they had to go along with public demand. If the public demands evening hours, then these hours were subject to change. ' Planning Commission Meeting - September 26, 1973 Page 5 Mr. Eilers said this was a drawing that was being presented •^ tonight, and when they started actually working with the site, it would be adjusted schismatically to save as much of the woods as possible. Mr. Nasim Qureshi said as Mr. Clark has mentioned, our Zoninq� Code was changed in 1969 to alloca a medical clinic in an R-1 area with a Special Use Permit. He said that when he talked to Charles Johanson about the North Suburban Hospital Board selling this property for private ownership by a group of doctors, rezoning was suggested. If the North Suburban�Hospital District was going to� � construct and own this building they could do so without rezoning or a Special. Use Permit. In talking to members of the Hospital Board, they want to be able to get assurance that this request wi11 enable a private group of doctors to construct this medical 'building, and be able to convey this assurance back to the group. As a staff inemb�r, my reconunendatian would be that the Planning Commission recommend that this be a Special Use instead of rezoning. A Special Use is more restrictive and this would allow the City more control of this property. Yau can recommend that a medical clinic be allowed in the North three acres of this parcel under a Special Use. Mr. Qureshi said that some o� the restrictions that could be asked for are (l) no traffic directed to 5th Street, (2) The ^. City have full control of outside material of the building and aesthetics of exterior development, (3) we provide that no trees are taken out without expressed approval of the City, (4) get a berming agreement for additional plantings to give protection to the residential area West of 5th Street, (5) Negotiate an exchange of 4 tax forfeit lots North of this property for an area in the Southwest corner of the Hospital property for a City park, which we need in this area ,(6) that all costs for any additionaT utilities in this area brought about by this developmeni, be borne by the clinic and the hospital, and (7) that they provide proper signing and work as much as they can to direct traffic to Osborne Road, which is a County road, and should be used for high volume traffic. He said the Hospital Board has been very cooperative in closing some of the accesses to Unity Hospital and in providing berming. Their concerns are the same as the City's. Mr. Qureshi continued, that the Planning Commission has three choices. You can recommend rezoning with an agreement that this _ property.will only be used for medical purposes, you can deny the rezon�ng, or recommend that the area needed for the medical office building be put under a Special Use in the existing R-1 zoning. We feel that the use of this property under a Special Use would give the City the best control over �his proposal and we can work with the Hospital Board and the doctors to protect the best interests of all concerned. /'1 ' � Mr. Harris asked about the availability of city services in this area. � Planriing Commission Meeting - September 26, 1973 Page 6 Mr. Qureshi said that there would be no problem with the ?� addition of a medical building, but if this entire parcel was. to be developed, there may be a need for additional services, �and we should erisure that no burden is put on th� existing residential area. Mr. George Johanix, 7566 5th Street N.E., said the cost of the roadways and the skyway should be borne by the group of doctors rather than the North Suburban Hospital Board. Mr. Vari Hauer said he agreed with Mr. Johanix in dollars and cents, but as he had explained, the original property could not be sold to the � doctors' group so that anything that was on the�original property would have to be owned._and maintained by the North Suburban Hospital District. Mr. Johanix asked how much the doctors were paying for this property. NIr. Van Hauer said they would pay the same price the North Suburban Hospital District paid for it, plus interest, and any assessments or taxes that have been paid on this property by the North Suburban Hospital District.prior to the sale of this property. As there could be additional costs before the sale is completed, the final cost has not been set. Mr. Johanix asked if 76th Avenue would be improv�d and used as an access to this pxoperty. Mr. Van Hauer said that to obtain /"'� financing for this building, there would have to be two egresses available to the property, but they have no intent, at this time, ' to ask fo� the improvement of 76th Avenue. Chairman Fitzpatrick said it can be made a stipulation of the 5pecial Use Permit that there will be no access to 76th Avenue or 5th Street. Mr. Qureshi said there would have to be a separate_Pub�ic Hearing before this street could be improved. Mr. Johanix asked the distance from 5th street to the pro- posed parking lot. Mr. Van Hauer said it was about approximately 350 feet frorn the edge of the parking lot shown to 5th Street. Mr. Johanix asked about 76th Avenu�. Mr. Van Hauer said that would be approximately 365 feet. Mr. Johanix said that at the present time there is no reason to open 76th Avenue. _ ' Mr. Qureshi said the only one who could open this street would be the City. It is nat under the control of the Hospital Board. The reason the City cannot vacate this street is because there are utilities in this street. Mr. Qureshi said this request has been before the Planning Commission for some time and he would hope that they could make /� • some type of recommendation this evening because it is on the Council agenda for October lst and they would like to be able to set a Public Hearing by Council on this request for October 15th. Planning Commission Meeting - September 26, 1973 Page 7 Chairman Fitzpatrick said he thought the Planning Commission /1 could act.on this request this evening, but the only thing that disturbed him was that they didn't have a legal description of the property in question. Mr. Qureshi said that if they made their recommendation on the three acres between 5th Street and the West property line of Unity Hospital this would narrow it down quite well and be a generous enough description so they would have enough property for their needs. /"� ,� Mr. Eilers said the North edge of the parking lot would extend to the right-of-way line of 76th Avenue in the Northeast • corner of the property. They were providing two parking spaces � for every 1,000 square foot of building. Mr. Clark said there was some confusion on the location of the parking. The answers given for the location of the parking lot were for the parl:ing already drawn in on the plan. Members of the audience want to kno�v how far the parking will be from 5th Street and 76th Avenue in the proposed additional parking lot. Mr. Van Hauer said that when the additional parking Zot is needed and constructed, it will still be 125 feet from 5th Street. Mr. Harris said there should be an agreement by the doctors' group to maintain the unused portion of the three acre tract. Mr. Eilers said the parking lot would be laid out so they didn't have to take out any trees. Mr. Qureshi said if this property was under a Special Use Permit, that any additional buildings, p�.rking lots, or any changes made, would have to be brought before �he Council for approval. If this property was rezoned to CR-1, then they could put anything on this propert� that was allowed in that type of zoning. The advantage of a Special,Use is that the City keeps control of this property for the present proposed development or any future development on these three acres. Both the City and the people in the area are better protected. MOTION by Harris, seconded by LindbZad, that the Planning Commission close the•.Public Hearing on rezoning request, ZOA #73-OS, by North Suburban Hospital District. Upon a voice vote, a1I voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Harris said he has been in favor of a Special Use in an R-1 ar�a since this request was first made. If we rezoned this property, and after a period of time, under whatever circumstances, the doctors would want to se11 this building, it would be hard to say what someone else might think is a medical purpose so they could use this building. A Special Use is �ore restrictive at the present time and will be more restrictive for any future expansion. I feel this request can be controlled much better with a Special Use rather than rezoning. Planning Commission Meeting - September 26, 1973 Page 8 /1 MOTION by Harris, seconded by B].air, that the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that a SpeciaZ Use Permit, SP'#73-11, be qranted on t11e North 3 acres of the eleven acre tract (Parcel 2400) to a11ow construction of inedical office b�ilding in an R-1 District, per Fridley City Code, Section 45.051, 3, F, in lieu of the rezoning request, ZOA #73-08, by North 5uburban Hospital Disfrict to rezone from R I(single family dwelling area) to CR-1 (general office and lirnited business), the area South of 76th Avenue N.E., East of 5th Street N.E., North of 75th Avenue N.E., and West of Unity Hospital, because this is more restrictive, with the followa.ng stipulations: �� (2) An agreement between the Nor.th Suburban Hospital District and the group of doctors who w.i11 own the three acre tract, on the mai��L-enance and use of the skywalk, on the use oi the parking Iots and driveways, be drawn and re- corded. (2) The medical office buildzng wi1l not exceed three storiQS� above gxade. (�) The exterior of the building wi11 conform aesthetically to Unity HospitaZ and be appr.oved by.the City Administxa- t.ion. /1 . , (4) If any additional water mains, sewers or storm sewers become necessary, the entire cost be borne by the North Suburban Hospital District and/or the owners of.the medical building. (5) The North Suburban Hospital District negotiate a land trade so a City park can be provided in the Southwest cornex of their property. . ' (6) Proper signing be provided by the North Suburban Hospital District to direct traffic to and from Osborne Road N.E. (?) Complete the 50 feet of buffer along 75th, Lyric, and 5th Street which sha11 consist of a berm and plantings to screen the parking Iots from the res.idential homes. (8) Provide a 1egaZ descriptian of the three acre tract. (9j No traffic access to Sth Street or 76th Avenue N.E. (10} No tree removal �aithout City approval. (31) Any future parking areas be.provided with a berm or screening from the adjoining R-1 areas presently �, occupied by single family homes. /'\ Planning Commission Meeting - September 26, 1973 Page 9 !12) (13) The parking Zots to be 125 feet from the 5th Street right-of-way. An agreement that the doctors' group will maintain the unused portion of the three acre tract. (14) The medical building wi11 be limited to occupation and uses as stated in a Zetter from the Unity Medical Center of 5eptember 6, 1973 which states that this bui.Zding sha11 be limited to health professionals which wi11 ' include, but not Iimited to, physicians, dentists, oral surgeons, clinical psychologists, psychiatric social workers and allied mental health personnel. Ancillary uses other tl�an office space sha11 be limited to those commercial enterprises designed to serve the doctors and dentists and their persanne.� and patients. Such ancil- lary uses would include things such as a professional pharmacy, an optical company, possibly a card and flower shop, and possibly ai a Zater date, a coffee shop. Upon a voice vote, a21 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. MOTION Commission � reques� by a11 voting � by Drigans, seconded by LindbZad, that the Planning urge the City Council to hold a Public Nearing on the North Sub.urban HospitaZ District. Upon a voice vote, ay�, the motion carried unanimousiy. 2. PUBLIC HE�RING: CONSIDERATION OF A REZONING REQUEST, ZOA #73-10; BY DONALD BABINSKI: Rezone Lots 1-6, 9 and the North 68 feet of Lot 20, Block l, Central Avenue Addition from C-2 (general business areas) and Lots 10-14, Block 1, Central Avenue Addition, from C-1 (local business areas�, a11 to be rezoned to M-1 (light industrial areas), to make zoning consistent with property lines, to allow construction of a warehouse; the same being 1290 73rd Ave.nue N . E . � Mr..Dick Brama, partner of Don Babinski, of the Bryant- Franklin Corporatiori was present to represent the petitioner. MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Blair, that the Planning Commission waive the reading of the Public Hearing notice for rezoning request, ZOA #73-10, by Dona•Id Babinski. Upon a voice vote,'a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Clark said the original zoning on the North half of this block was all C-1. About three years ago we had a request for C-2 zoning on the Northeast corner of this block, along with a request for a Special Use Permit by an oil company for a service station. Both requests were granted. The station was never built. This request is ta combine the entire block, Central Avenue Addition, into M-1, a light industrial area. � Planning Commission Meeting - September 26, 1973 � Page 10 ^ Mr. Clark said the Bryant-Franklin Corporation currently owns the building South of the property, which is presently occupied by Onan's. This proposed warehouse will be of similar use. It will �e a little bit smaller. Bryant-Franklin has already �been to the Board of Appeals to obtain a front setback of 70 feet instead of 100 feet. When they bought this property, they were told that it was all zoned M-l. As I understand it, the _ steel for this building is already in the state, so they are somewhat rushed. That's why they have already been to the Board oi Appeals; th�y are going to Building Standards September 27th, . and the Public Hearing has already been set for October 15th by the City Council. Mr. Clark said that from the staff's standpoint, we would favor this all being rezoned for one use. In this particular area, it is better to have it all zon�d industrial. Mr. Lindblad asY.ed if there was anything on this property now. Mr. Clark said junk, but no structures. .� �. . � Mr. Clark said they were in the process Welding�to get their tanks back on to their screening. The junk yards�were cooperating property. This proposal will help clear up that really needs it. � of gettinq Determan property, with some in cleaning up their a part of Fridley Mr. Fitzpatrick said the staff then does �ecommend favorable action c�n this request. Mr. Clark said they did. Mr. Brama.said this will be a speculative building, the same as the one occupied by Onan's. There would be offices in front and the balance of the building will be general warehouse. Onan's has expressed an interest in renting this building also,� but the building will be so constructed so we can segregate the bays if more than one tenant were to occupy the building. He said the building will be sprinkled. Mr. Harris asked if there were city services available at this site. rir. Clark said there was .a large wate.r main at old Central,�and sewer is also on Central Avenue. Mr. Drigans said the reason for the necessity of a variance was because the area across the street was a different zoning. Mr. Clark said they meet the code for,parking, which is 20 feet. The building is closer to the right of way than the code require- ment.� If they moved the building, it would restrict the loading area in the back of the building. Mr. Brama said the beautiful part of having these two buildings compliment one another is because they could share a common driv�- /"\ way and infringe on each others loading zones. .... ... ..... . Planning Commission Meeting - September 26, 1973 Pa�e 11 ^ Mr. Harris said there should be an agreement on the common easement between both buildings. Mr. Clark said if there was only going to be_ one driveway, there should be driveway easements given also. He said this wouldn't have to be a stipulation of the rezoning, it could be handled at Building Standards. He said the only stipulation should be to provide right of way on the Northern corner for a right hand turn lane at 73rd Avenue at Central, if it has not already been provided. MOTION by Drigans, seconded by B1air, that the Planning Commission close the Public Hearing on rezoning reqciest, ZOA #73-10, by Dorlald Babinski. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. • MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by Harris, that the PZanning � Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the rezoning request, ZOA #73-10, by Donald Babinski, to rezone Lots 1-6, 9 and fihe North 68 feet of Lot 20, B1ock 1, Central Avenue Addition, from C-2 (general business areas), and Lots 10-14, B1ock 1, Central Avenue Addition, from C-I (1oca1 business areas), a1Z to be rezoned .� , to M-1 ,(Iight industrial areas) to make. zoning consistent wi.th property Iines, to a11ow construction of a warehouse, the same being 1290 73rd Avenue N.E. with the stipulation ihat they provide rjght o�.way on the A�orthern corner of the property for a right hand turn lane at 73rd Avenue at Central, if it has not already been provided. � Upon a voice vofe, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Harris said he noted that there was a 30 foot street vacation �aith a 15 foot easement on the South property line that was already zoned M-l. Mr. Brama said this vacated Brook Street � was causing some problems. A bond has been posted that this would be taken care of before closing on this property. 3. MEMO FROM PAUL BROtaN TO PARKS & RECREATION .COD4MISSION, DATED SEPTEI�ZB�R 14 , 19 7 3 Mr.. Clark said a mot•ion had been made at the last meeting to have a meeting on the comprehensive park plan, the flood plain ordinance and a meeting with General Cheeseman on the armory pro- posal. This could be handled at either our reqular meeting of Oc�ober 3rd or at a special meeting on October lOth. tde still have only one item on our October 3rd agenda, and General Cheeseman cannot attend this meeting. He said he could come October 10th. We can•contact,his office and see if .he can come on Octob�r 17th, our regula.rly scheduled meeting, and this will elimiriate the special meeting. If this meets with your.approval, we can handle as much of these three it�ms as we have time for on October 3rd, and the balance can be heard at the October 17th meeting. Mr. Fitzpatrick said this was satisfactory, so there would be no special meeting on October lOth. He said the memo from Paul Brown was just informational and no action was required. n /'\ Planning Commission Meeting - September 26, 1973` Page 12 4. RECEIVE t�INUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE MOORE LAKE TASK rORCE S7.'UDY GROUP OF JULY 17, 1973, AND TIIE LETTER TO JAMES LANGiiNFELD FROM JOFiN B. LUNDQUIST DATEll JULY 23, 1973 Mr. James Langenfeld, Chairman of the Fridley Environmental Quality Commission was present. Chairman Fitzpatrick asked if there had been any decision made on making a study of Moore Lake. . Mr. Langenfeld said there hadn't been. Anoka County is going to make a study of 15 lakes of which Moore Lake is one. This study will follow the outline in the letter of John Lundquist. There will be no cost to Fridley for this study because it will come out of the gen�ral f_und of Anoka County.. This study will be made in early 1974 and from there we can determine if we need any additional studys. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked who was going to do this study for Anoka County. Mr. Langenfeld saia it would be handled through the Anoka Health Department and would probably be done by National Biochemicals. AZr. LangenfEld said that as a result of this study, if Fridley should decide that additional studies are needed, Fridley would have to pay for the additional studies. MOTION by Blair, seconded by Drigans. that the Planning Commission receive the minutes of ihe Special Meeting of the Moore Lake Task Force Study Group of Ju1y 17, 1973, and the letter to James Langenfeld fxom John B. Lundquist dated July 23, 1973. Upon a voice vote, a1.Z voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Langenfeld asked if the.Planning Commission would like copies of the minutes.of the Environmental Quality Commission. Mr. Fitzpatrick said at the time the Environmental Commission was formed there was some discussion of making it a Subcommittee of the.Planning Commission, and the Chairman would be a member of the Planning Commission. They didn't want to hold up the forming of this Commission,. so it was formed without the technicalities. This would have some bearing upon whether we receive your minutes or not. You do meet with the Parks & Recreation Commission, whieh is a Subcommittee of the Planning Commission. ,' Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark if tf�ere were any more storm sewer outlets planned for Moore Lake. Mr. Clark said the one for the new plat, Harris Lake Estates, would drain to Moore Lake. Mr. Harris asked if there was an outlet from Moore Lake. Mr. Clark said there was one to Rice Creek. � Mr. Clark said the lake does fluctuate quite a bit. There was a weir on the West side ot Moore Lake that could be moved closer to the lake. It is quite far away to be efficient. n, � /�'� Planning Commission Meeting - September 26, 1973' Page 13 Mr. Drigans asked how many members there w�re on the Environmental Commission. Mr. Langenfeld said there were six, plus the Chairman. Mr. Langenfeld said the Moore Lake Task Force Study Group would not meet again unless t�e citizens that comprised the group asked to meet again. 5. CITY TREE NURSERY Mr. Harris asked what was happening in regard to the City having a tree nursey. Mr. B1air said Paul Brown would be writing a letter on what was being done. Mr. Harris said that this is budget time, and if money isn't appropriated now for the nursery,'then it will be p�t off for another year. 6. GENERAL DrSCUSSION Mr. Harris said there'should be some stop signs on Rancher's Road and Main Street. Mr. Clark said they would be needed at 77th; 79th and D7ain, and Rancher's Road and 79th. He said Main Street is being used more and more. He was sure this would be studied. Mr. Drigans asked about the Metro Station. Mr. Clark said there wasn't much the City could do as long_as there was a law suit pending. Mr. Harris brought up the recodification of the City Code and that it will eliminate over night truck parking. General discussion followed on the change in this ordinance. Chairman Fitzpatrick adjourned the meeting at 11:00 P.M, Respectfully submitted, �; ` � i�� i Z-`�'l��G'� `Dorothy Ev,�nson, Secretary 0 � . � •.� CITY OF FRIDL�Y � ^ PLI�NNING COri�'�ISSION MEETING OCTOBER 3, 1973 PAGE 1 CALL TO. ORDJ, R : Acting Chairman Harris called the meeting to order at 8:05 P.Di. ROLL CI�LL : Nembers Present: Harris, Li_ndblad, Drigans, B1air hlembers Absent: Fitzpatrick Oth�rs Present: Darrel Clark, Community Development Adm. Jerrold Boardman, Planning Assistant 1. CONTII�'U�,D : JOHN DOi'LE RE�?UEST FOR 11 REAL ESTA7.'� OFI'ICE : 6305 �I�S�i' ��IVLR YOAD � Mr.. John Doyle and r�1r. Jeffrey Carsori, �an attorney �representing Mr. Doyle, 4eer_e present. - Mr. Carson said he was representing I�Zr. Doyle and he �-rould � loke to present this zequest in a form o� a memorandum �ehich states: . "On or about b2ay 3, 1972, John Doy1e (d/b/a/ Leigh Investments, Inc.) presented an application to the Planning Co;nr,►ission for a rezoning of his property on G3rd FVay and East Riv�x Road, Frid].ey, -Minnesota, to CF.-1 class. This culminat�d in a denial at the regular Council meeting o� June 19, 1972. The feeling c�:as at that �ime, however, that people Ziving in�the area were not opposed to the reques-�ed use, but were opposed to the rezoninc�. This was so indicated in the minutes of both the Commission and the Council. At the�time of the beforementioned h�arings, a comprelzensive . plan was being developed for a number of areas witllin Fridley, the • area in question beii�g�one of these. Since that decision of June 19, 1972, the City Council has adopted, for the area in question, a praposed zoniny of "high densii:y". This, to a large extent is due to the fact that the area is in a transi�ional stage and it is a�parent that the R-1 zoning classificat,ion will not be ap- • propziate. From�my discussions with some of the neiyhbors immed- iately surrounding Mr. Doyle's property, it is apparent that they realize a c2iarige is inuninent and are anxious for a decision to be made �vitli respect to thcir property. It was also my impression tliat tllese pcople were not unilaterally opposed to Air. Doyle's use of his property as a real estate business. The area in question �..is sl�own on tlie attached map. Also, for your inforraation, I have attached a list of those neighbors we were able to ascertain to be wii:hin 300 feet of the designated property. With this background in mind, we chose not to reapply for a zoning change. Tliis, in part, was brough� abou�. by the IIoard's �J • Planninq Commission Meeting - October 3, 1973 Pa e 2 � stroiig recommendation that rezoning would not be viewed favorably at this time. This left us the special use or variance altern�tives. Minnesota Statutues 4G2.357, SuUd. 6, seems to eliminate the variance: � �. "...The Court of Appeals and Adjustments or the governinq bociy as the case may be, may not permit as a variance any use that is not permitted under the ordinance for in the zone where i:he ef�ected persons` land is located.° On the other hand, the leading case of Zyllka vs. City of Crystal . 167 N.td. 2nd 45; 283 T�Iiniz 196 (1969) suggests that a special use might Ue in order. There the ivlinnesota Court indicated that a special use permit was properly ��rithin the discretion of the govern- i�g body. They'went on to say that �aheie an ordinance does not 'speci�y standards, as is usually the case when final authority to determin� �•ai�e�ch�r a permit shall be granted is retained by tize Council, an ari�ii�rary denial may be iound by a revie�•zing court wh.en tlie use is compatible iaith i�he bas�c use authorized ��ithin the particular zone and does not endanger the public health or .safety ox, the c�eneral �•,elfare of_ the area af�'ected or the community as a�vhole. This �iew is confirmed by' Sec.tion 45.191 of the �zd�nances oi the City of �'riclle�� where i�L is set out that a xeasonable deqzee of discretion in determining suitabi,lity o� certain uses is given the City Fathers. Generally, whcn passing on a special use permit, the governiiig body �ooks to.the follo�aii�g; health, safety and welfare of the comanuni.ty �.ncluding tra�iic hazards, land valuations, compatibility o� uses and th.e overall charact.er of the area as it is, and as it is to be. The comprehansive pl�n has ind�icated that East Riv`r Road ��hich is adjacent to the property in question is a major source of tra�fic congestion and danger.. Also, the entire area in question was proposed as a high density use rathex than R-�. It is apparent that AZr. Doy1e`s proposed use of his property for a small, local real estate of�ice, will not add to the traffic hazard already existing in the area. Lilcetaise the health, safei�y, and general welfare oi the community will not be affect�d. Tlle operation as he proposes to use ii:, would certainly be compatible with the etiisting homes in the area. It is uncertain at this time what ef�ect, if any, there �aould be on land values. I expect that in the long range, afi:er_ a ser�.ous rezoning is contemplated for the entire area, the net effect of land values will be to increase. roz these reasons �ae are mal:ing application of a special use permit under section 45.5, Sul�sec�Lion 4, of i:he �Ordinances of the City of Fridley, a copy of whiclz you have befor� you. It is my belie� that Subs�rtion 4, entitlea "Otlier Uses", may be interpret�d to mcan, other uses similar to tlYOSe specifically set out in your ordinance as permitted uses by special use permit. With this in � mind, and the rcalizat�ion thai: tlle area is in a state ot flux, I am asking boi:h the Plani�ing Commi_ssion and tlle City Council to use the reasonabl.e degree of discretion permitted them by State la�r aiid to make a determination thai: a special use �ermit be granted to r1r. Doyle." _ • _ �. . . . ..�.� Planning Commission Meeting - October 3, 1973 Page 3 ^ �'ir. Clark said the Council sent this down ta the Planning Commission to see if they could determine how this request could b� handled��aithin the confines of our present ordinances. At the present time,. we cannot accept the application of a special use permit. Tt will be up to the Council and the City Attorney to determine from any recommendaioiz made by the Planning Commis- sion whether or not we can accept this application. Air. Harris said the recommendations made in the Com�rehensive Qlan are just guidelines. Just because this is considered a chan�g=� ing area, it does not mean that rezoning is immiizent. If the fee owners of the proper�ty t•aant it to stay R-1, it will stay R-1. Mr. Clark asked ifr. Carson if he would eaplain ho.•: he interpreted Subsection 4 and why hc felt P��r. Doyle. could apply for a special use perntit under this subsection. Mr. Carson said this sizUsection is headed "Other Uses" and says "For other uses, otlzer th�n d�vellir.a units, permitted uses and uses requiring a special use permit," J i,ndicating or suggesting that other uses other than those listed for a special use permit could be allo�•a�d, other��ise, ��zhy this �� section�on other uses. I arn not presenting this Gs an argument, orily as a rat�.onale to allow' my client to apply for a special use �ermi.t, /"� Acting Chairman Harris said tiiat under Section 45.052, Par_agraph 2, under "Us�s Exclu�ed" it sta+�es "Any use no;: specifically �er- � mitted in the pYeceeding paragraphs of th�s section." He asked . AZr. Carson how he interpreted this statenent. T�ir. Carson said 'ne inter�reted this as 1�ot.excluding what tney proposed under "Other Uses". In other words, other uses are permiited, similar i�o tizose . that are permitted. In the new code, Section 45.19, it �tates that the purpose of a s�ecial use �ermit is to pro��ide the City of � Fzidley a reasonable degree of discretion in deter_mining the suit- ability oi certain types of uses etc. Ti�at's what we're asking:is . that the City of Fridley exercise that reasonable degree of dis- cretion to allow this request to be handled as a special use. Mr. Clark said he didn't �aant to give his interpretation of Subsec�ioiz .4 but he w'auld like i�o give tlie Planning Commissioi� soi�le- thing for tliought. It depends upon 11ow you pause wii�n you read this par.agrapli. T believe tliat this subsection means that when you are considering a speeia]. use permit for the reasoi�s enumerat.ed �.n tha.s section, tliat tlzen t.i� requiremeni� for setbacks, buildii�rs, • .parking, 1.andscaping, screening and ex'terior materials shall be ai: least corni�arable to similar uses• in other districts . In . other words, for ot�lier uses, otlier than dc•�elling uilits, permitted uses and uses requiring a special use permit, the rec�uirements cliange, and they have to go to the section oL the code where these tY11I1CJS are allowed wittiout a special use, and use those requirements. �, � D1r. Carson said tliat refers to otlier seci:ions of the Zoning Code and 1:hat is caliat li� has done also. rir. Clark said tliat iri otlier sec�io�ls of i:lie codc, it does have t}ie st�tement thai� other ret��il or wholesale sale or service uses cahich are similar in cl�aracter i:o tliose eiiumerated auove, wi11 not be 3angerous or atl:er:�ise detri- . �.. [ Plan�zing Commission Meeting - October 3, 1973 Page 4 mental to persons residing or working in the vicinity thereof, or to t:�e public weliare, and will not impair the use, enjoy- �� ment or value of any property, but not including any uses ex- cluded herei:,af �er. In other �aords, in the C-1 section of the code, for instance, if it says a cream�ry can be allocaed with a speci_a1 use permit, then an ice cream making plant could be allowed because this is similar in nature. This is not what Subsection 4 says. Nir. Clark said that if the Planning Com.nission was i'avorable to this request, they could recommend to the Council tliat this k�e a].lo�aed under a special use as i.he ordinance • reads if tizey agr.ee with rir. Carson's interpretation, or else recommend tllat the code be changed to allow a real estate office a.n tlle uses enumerated unde� the Special Use section. � - Mr. Carson said he }�elieved the Council ielt that changing the code was �n.e least desirable recommendation. Mr. Drigans said he qu�stioned the statement in the second pax'agrph of tlze memoranaum where it states that in your discussion with thc neigiibors, it is appar.ent tilat tizey realize a chanc}e is immi.ne�li, and a.re anxious for a decision to be made �aith respect to their �ropezty. .He asked.Mr. Carson ii he could elaborate on that st.atement. Mr. Carson said i�he neighbors are under the impression that rezoni.ng is i�runineizt. They have exPressed frustration because they would like to kno�•� �aliat is going ta happen in this area. He said he thought his. was up to the Council to decide. l�ir. Drigans said he thought tiiis was up to the fee owners of the propex�y. Dir. Clar}c said tizat accordinq to the ordinance the City can start the rezoning process, but the property owners can come back to the City if they feel they are beirig hurt financially by the change. He said that the City institutes a zoning chanqe very seldom. • �- Mr. Harris said his feelings wer� tha�L according to the 5th amendmen�L to the Constitu�ion that people have the right to liie, liberty and property, t_:rough due process. He saa.d he wasn't an attorney, but T�hink if rezoning was inzated.by the City wh�re Z 1ive, and it was zoned R-1 and I wanted to continu� to live there, I think we'd all be up seeing the judge in Anoka County. Mr. Carson said he thought rZr. Iiarris was right, but on this .particular area., they have i:li� railroad on one side, and im�rovement of East River Foad to liandle more traffic flow, and they are hold-. ing up tlie improvement of some of tlze si�reets in.the area until they determine whether this area is going to retain its character. Mr. Harris said a comprehensiv� str•eet p1an ��as developed about five years aqo. Tlie City is going i:llroug}i the City section, by � ' seci:io�1, until all tlie streets are improved as i:o curbs, gutters, 'sewers and storm secaers. As tlzis area was paved in 1956, it has a low priority ii� xcl.ation to areas that have no •improvement. /'� �� Pl�anning Commission Mee�ing - OctoUer 3, T973 Page 5 A4r. Drigans said tnat Mr. Doyle came in a year aga for re- zoning so he could operate a real estate office, and this was denied. I would like to know the status of this business at the present i.ime. Mr. Clark said lie was i:here abaut �.hree weeks ago, and there was a woman there to answer the phone and it was not being used as a residence. Mr. Doyle said he had to star-L- using this house because he �. had to move irorn his form�r ofii_cc in July. He �wrute a letter to the Council dated 1�ugust 13, 1973 requ�sting that he be ai�le to use this residence �or his business �•.hile they studied how this could i�� allo��.ed in an R-1 area. ATr. Carson said the Council gav� I��Ir. Doyle tliis perrnission, while they were exploring if this could be allo;�-ed �aith a variance or under a special use . P�4r. Blair as}ied i�1r. lloyle if he �•�as going to make any ir.ip�-ove- ments to this propc�r�y. i�Ir. Doy1.e said t�ie iriprovement.s he i11�L�eAws tp ma};e �:Vould 1_c��:uir�� i�o permits. I3e intencls to paint, make some repairs and do some lalidscaping. � • � � Mr. Doyle said he kne�-a that if he lived in the home, his real estate busincss �•�ou1d be a lea,al home oceupation. But �.he house is too smGll fox his family and he would be forced to greatly � expand the d�•:ellinc�. Tliis �Noulci constitu�e a large investment and would be very buxdensome. � n A�r. John O�.houdt, 20 63rd t^Tay N.E. , said he can see ho��a the City is gro�,:ii7g. ��lith the com�letion of the railroad development, I look for more industry to come into this area, because of the access to both the rai].aroad and to East River Road. rirs. Gerald Gerber, 6275 East River Road, said �she liked her home and it took a long time to get it the way it no�•� is. She said she kne�a it was not the most desirable location but shc was used to it and she likes the area. She said if any rezoning was going to occur, it should be for the entire area and not just one str�et. She said she al�•rays felt this area would stay R-1, ev�n with the railroad so �l:ose and n�vc�r thought she would have a uusi- ness neYt door. She said as fai as Mr. Doyle's proposal was con- c�rned, she �vould rather hav� a neighbor-businss than a business- business next door. Mr. Loren L•7olle, 33 G3rd �Vay N.�., said he would be next door to this 1JUJZIICSJ. ile said this �aas a secluded neighborhood. They are o�f by �h�nlselves, and thai�'s the ��ay he likes it. He said he hac3 nathinq personal against Mr. Doyle., but he didn't want a business ncxi: door. Iie asked if this area has been set aside tor rezoning by the comprelicnsive plan. ncting Chairman Iiarris said this is one of the areas studied in the com�rehens�ve plan Uut the com��rchensive plan is not a hard and f�ZSt iact. The pcople in the area are tfie ones �o say whaL- will go into tlie area. Mr. Clurk said tliai: before the City cotild rezone this azea, tlicy would have i:o �prove that i:his was -for the � 5 �� Planning Commission Nieetinq - October 3, 1973 Page 6 betterment of the �ahole City before t,hey could ask for condemnation proceedings, Mr. Boardman saa.d studie5 were made of areas that seemed to be changing areas. Guidelines were se� up, but spot rezoning Vaas not good in any area. Mr. Doyle said he �eould like the opportunity to use this property and ne will upgrade and e�ihance this property. I would ��e to use this property under a special use uni�il we know cailat is going to happen in this area. DZr. Harris asked that if this special use was granted, and 1�1r. Doyl_e moved out of this property, if another real estate company could cam� in and use the prop�rty for the same use, under the ,sarle special use? AIr. Carson said he :thought the�� would Iiave to re-ap�ly. i�,r. Clark said that if it was the san�e small type ot operation, he thought the special use taould still be in eifect. . Mr. C�olle said if this special use could continue after A�r. •� Doyl� le�t tlze property, he woula definitely be against it. He � thouglzt �it should revert back to R--1, ti�ith no special use. Mr. Drigans said that on P•Zr. Doy1e's application for a special � use pexmit, he c,ras asking for parlcing for 10 cars and a 48 square foot 1igl�ted si_gn allo�aed under CR-1 zoning in tlze sign ordinallce . He thouc�lit this sign sllould not be on this application. We have � a separate sign ordinance. /'� Mr. Doyle said a mor� practical request would probably be �o have parkii�g tor only five cars. T have the room to provide more spaces, bu� my concern is not to have the street full of cars because of this reruest. I�•.ould like to have the sign to announce �my presence in tYie area, a 1.ighted sign that is 48 square feet, according to the CR-1 requlations�, out along East River Road. � Mr. Lindblad asked �Sr.. Doyle why he want to utilize this property �iar an office �,�hen there are cornmercial area�, like Iiolly Cen�er for instance, where you could have a real estate o�£ice �a�thout all tliese problems. Mr. Doyle said that different�real estate compani�s, such as CaZhoun, Ldina, Bell and one or t�vo ot�iers, have had offices in Moon k�laza and they have all left a_n about a year. You do not �get the.traffic�needed for a real estate office in that location. What I�aant to do is expose my business to traffic. I have done mx own traftic count, ai�d tlzere ar� about G00 vehicles an. hour going �ast this ��roperty I have QI1 �ast River Road. He said his land covers a large area, almost 3/4 of an acre. It has a lot o� trees on the property and does prov.ide ��rivacy for the neiyhuors. Th�.s, c�upled �Jith the fac� i.hat analyzing this from my P0121�;. of vie�a, tliat if this area isn' � changiiig now, it will be c}iangi�ig. Mr. Drigans asl:ed llim why he didn't try to rent some of tlicse oil stations tha� }iave c�one out of busincss? Mr. lloyZe said tliey are c�ifficult t�o heat, would require a lot of refurbi�hing and would have 1ligli ren�.. � Planning Commission Meeta:nc� -- October 3, 1973 Page 7 �r � Mr. Ron�Steckman, 58 Rice Creek ��ay, said he was here as an interested citiz�n. He said he is a salesman that operates from his hom� and he was in favor of Nir. Doyle's real estate office being allo�•aed . He thin}: s:1r .� Doyle �aill be upgrading the property . �ie said if he wanted to put up a sign with his name on it on his own properi�y, he wouldn't want the Council to tell him he couldn't. Mrs. Gerber said she didn't think a 4'x8' sign was going to upgrade the neigi7borliood. . Mr. Harris asked r:r. Steckman if own hon�e . AZr . Steckman said he did . the difference. I��r. Doyle does not he had his DIr . Harri s live in this business in his said thai �aas home. Mr. James Langenfeld, 79 6312 Gday N.E. , said he coul.d see mor.e problems for the City i� r1r. Doyle ��as allo��ed to operate a real estate office in an R-1 area. P�Zr. Drigans said we can get problems if tae deny this, also. There are a lot of home businesses that �don't quite meet the�ordinance requirements.. � Mr. Langenfeld said thai� Mr. Doyle seems like an intelligent� business man so he tlzought it 4aas strange that he found himself �^ in this pzedicament. b7r. Doyle said his request was similar to reques�Ls made in oth�x coin~nunities. There, rezoning to CR-1, k�as allo�•�ed because it had th� least impact on a residential area. D1r. C1arY, said he didn`t think the City could handle this request caitliout . a� change in the ordinance . . Mr. Harr_is asked rlr. Doyle if he had had any m�etings with the neighbors on this request. Mr. Do��le said he had aiZd he still felt the neighbors �aere not opposed to his request to have a real estate o�fice. There were concerned about what changes would be made in this area. Iie said they talked about having a meeting �aith someone who could tell th�ril�ahat plans were being considered, as long as �the City �elt this was a changing area. rZr. C�lolle said that was why he was opposed ta this request. Once you let something commercial into the area, it could sno�•�ball, and the area caould change. � Acting Chairinan Harris said tliat a�though this �vas not a Public Hearinc�, he would like to close the discussion so the members of the Planning Commission could discuss this request. Mr. Blair said he was in favor of this request being handled under a special use, with stipulations. Iie said he has seen tllis � property and he believed it would meet tiie CR-1 requirements for �buffer zones, it is large enougli, and on the North side there is screening. Ile said lle t��ougtzt the parking sl�ould ue limited to �ive cars. Iie said the only oth�r stipulations lie could think of at tlYis timc is �hat there be no storage of materials on this lot, or improvemcnts to the other loi:s. I think the sign ordinance wiI]. take care.of the sign. � ' � �?��.,+ Planning Conunission Meeting - October 3, 1973 Page 8 Mr. Clark said the size of the sign could be restricted as a stipulation also. � Mr. Boardman said that in reading the ordinan�e, th� sign would be governed by the zone t11at it is in. Tf he wants a sign that is largcr than ��hat is allo��red in an R-1 district, he �aould have to go Lo the Boara of Appeals for a variance. Iie said he didn't see how a sp�cial use on a structure can follota thr�ugh on t).ie sign. _ Mr. Lindb].ad said he �,ias opposed to th�_s request. He said more of the neigh}�ors �aere against this request tl�an ��ere for- it. 13e said tilr. Doyl.e was not living in the house and ��ae would be spot zezoning �•;ith a dif�er�nt nam�. �You'v� got parking, traffic and a sian. Yc:u've go� a busin�ss. I have to consider if I �.Tould want this in i.ly n.eighborhood or not, and I �aouldn`t. I feel one neigl�bo�-hocd is as good as anotlzer, so the neighbors have to be considered in this request. . Mr. Blair said he felt the neighbors taeren't objectinc� to the use of the property, just the rezoning. Mr. Lindblad said if anymore requests come from this area, ^ for use diiferent� from R-1, then he thinks the area should be rezoned, but i�t ti•aas up to the residents of this area. /'� l�Zr. Dxiqans said AZr. Doyle was in business to make money and to do this he ��aould have to be successful. Anoka is a good area �or xeal est�te, so i� he is success�ul, his business will gro�� nd expand. Iie bought this house, not to live in, and to operate a bus��zess. z have to agr�.e �aitli Mr.. Lindblad, in that you can call it tahat you �•�ani�, but he is �r�questing to operate a business a.n an R--1 area. I feel if we r�comitzend a special use, we're tell�ng not only real estate people and other sales p�ople, that they hav� a riglzt to specUlate aild uuy a small house so they can open up some type of sma11 busin�ss. I think it is obvious that people in.this area.wouldn't object to.having a neiqhbor in the real estate business�,� but I consider this a business, and n�t a neic�l�bor. Mr. Blair said what do �ve do about illegal home occupations. •He said �he }:nc�a• th�re �aere peoplc empioying outside lielp for tlieir home busincsses. Iic said NIr. Doyle was honest in liis request, and we are turning him do��n. � � T1r. Clark said if these illegal home occupations �aere brouglit to the attention ot the City, the City could investiga�:e and xegulate thcm. Mr. Clark said the special use some of i:he loi:s in i'ridlcy bordcr are zoned R-1. tallen a requ�st is �, � permit �vas designed because on comrnercial, even if they macZe, we look at the pros and n Planninq Conunission Me�ti.ng - October 3, 1973 Page 9 _ , ..? cons of the request. The question here is whether you want '�'F� real estate offices to be consid�red in R-1 zoning. Mr. Clark said that he could not interpret thc present ordinance so that real estate offices can be under a special use permit in R-l. If you want to consider this use under a special use, then I think lawyers offices should be consi�ered a1so, because if you thinl: real estate o�fices can be considered und�r a special use, then la�vyers offices are the only thing left out that are considered in CR-1. � Mr. Clark said there�are three things the Planning Commission � can recor.�mend to Council. You can deny the requ�st, you can recommend that tlze ordin�.nce be changed to allow r.eal estate offices • in an R-1 area, or inter.pret the code the �ti�ay T�ir. Car_son docs, and � say that this is allo�,�ed under ouz present zonir�g ordinanc�. M.r. Harris said rir. Doyle's request has precipated this, t��hat ti�� recorunend �aill not affect r1r. Doyle directly. S�Te caould not be rer.ornmending that a special use be granted to Mr. Doyle. -� That would still have to be a se�azat� Public H�aring. We have � �� to cons"ider wllether �-,e want to recomrncrid that real estate of�iccs can be under special use o�^ if it can be allowed under Subsection 4. /1 Mr. Lindblad said �•�e have �Lhese uses under our present CR-1. zoning . _ Mr. Clark said that one tI11IlC3 to consider was thai a special use permit is more restrictive than CR-1, zoninq. rir. Harris said a special lzse permit is like a contract between the City and the appJ_icant. , Mr. Drigans said if we put.�too many restrictions on this request, we might be infringinq on Mr. Doyle's right to do business. Mr. Clark said if Mr. Doyle agrees to the restrictions, then t1e is coni�ent with the stipulations. I�ir. Driqans said we do have a zone for real estate offices. When l�Ir:� Doyle asked for rezoning, it was denied, because the peopl� didn't want a real estate office in their neighborhood. Mr. Carson said that �ahat you are saying is that the zoninq code is the zoning code. �^�e think i:his is a changing area and tlie zoning classification could chatire. Tliis use will not be in- compatibl�e �vith the area. You are grant�d discretion in inter- pretii�g t}le code . Mr. Blair_ said he �hinks there ,are other �R-1 lots in Fridlcy that border on CR-1 uses in that i�here are buffer zones and thcy ^� � meet the required screcning requi_rements. : Mr. Drigans said if there are lots like these, then T would. have to conclude that there are oi:her business other than real estatc th�,t could go on these lots. • � . �� Planning Commz�.ssion r7e�tinq - Octcber 3, 1973 Page 10 Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark how many lots �here were like this in I'ridley. Mr. Clark said that any lots that are on a main arterial street would be in aboui� the same situation. Mr. Lindblad said i:he purpose of the various Boards and the Council �•�as to study each individual case and try to determine what was the best decision. lls to this request, I have to take into consideration the abjectio» of tlle neighbors, They bought in an i;-1 ar.ea and have stated they �aant the ar�a to stay R-l. . A9r. Clar): said this is the reason for a special use. The neighbors did abject to rezoning, but with a special use, the property �:7ill remain R-l. Acting Chairman Iiarris asY.ed if the other members of the Planniiig Comnu_ssioi� felt tYiis request could be handled under Subsection 4. Mr. Blair said lze felt that this could be handled this �eay, witr� special restrictions as to the buf_fer zon�s, etc. Mr. Drigans saic� his interpretation of the cade is that we have a spec:i_al section for r�al estate businesses. We can make /'� a case for any type of office or similar occupai�ions of selling, in Subsection 4. If that be the case, then I think cti�e shoula � recommend to�Council a consideration of changing the code to ' grant special uses to those lots that the Council feels ar_e buffer areas Uet�•;een two zones and IlOt limit it. to real estate office but for additional uses. � Mr. Lindblad said he still feels that each request is an � individual case. I think the use are detined quite �vell for each zoning district. ' Mr.,Harris asked if we should define what should be allo�aed with a special use permit as to other uses. P•Zr. Drigans said tliai: if we do, some one will come in with a request that is not specifi- ca11y mentioned. . � _ Mr. Harris said he believes, like hir. Lindblad, that if we were to follo�a the Zoraing Codes to tlic� leti�er, it would not be . . necessary to h�.ve a Board or a Council i�o decide t:hese thiiigs. 2Ie said that in areas that are zon�d conunercial or industrial, we don't 11ave to be so stric� on w}lat goes into these areas. talle�i you get i:o R-3 and R-2, you're st'artii�g to talk� ab�ut where people live and by the tii��e you get to R-1 zot�ing, you are taking about a man' S I10A1C and I belicve a man's hoine is his castle. If the neic�hbors are willing to give up their ric�hts of privacy, thcii �•. I could go along �aith this request. He said he feels that i:her_e shoul.d be a changc in the code, to expand the uscs allowed wi.th a speci.al use permit in fiection F, o£ the R-1 ZOI11I1cJ Code . I think Subsection 4 is ambic�uous and should Ue chanc�ed. I think t}ie 'other uses' should bc struck from this paragraph so that �omconc won't use this parae�r�h i:o construe othcr uses, i;o othe� uscs tiYan the ones lis�ed. � �:'.`�t Planning Commission b7eeting - October 3, 1973 � Page 11 � Mr. Clark said if you ar.e going to add otl-.er uses to Section F; under special use, you should include lacayers, real estai.e, medical and dental. � Mr. Clark said that if Mr. Doyle was worried about the time element in changing the code, that this �,rould take no longer than meeting the requirements of applying ior�a special use permit. MOZ'ION b� Drigins, seconded by B1air, that. the Planning ' Commission recommend to CounciJ. to consider amending the Zoning Co�I� f-o a11oc•r real estate offices and lac•�yers office to be added to a use allorti�ed witt�. a Special Use Permi% in R-1, Sectior� 45.051, Parac�r.aph 3, F, to K-2, S�ctian 45.061, Paragraph 3, F, and to R-3, Sect-ion 45.071, Paraqraph 3, 11, and to add to the sanze three Zoning Districts the statement:� AII uses which are similar in character to those enumerated above, wi1.Z not be dangerous or otherc;�ise detrimental io per_sons residiny in the area thereof, or. to the public welfare, and wi21 not impai.r the use, enjoyment or value of any properiy, but not incliiding an�. uses excluded hereinafter. Upon a voice vote, a11 votil�g aye, the motion carried unanimously. • Mot.zon by Blair to amend the motion, seconded by Lindblad, � that the Planninq Commission a1.sa recommend to Council that . Subsection 4,, entitled OTFiER USLS in �he Zoning lli�L-ricts of R-1, R-2, and 1:-3, is ambiguous and very vague. This should be • �e�+�ritten so that it is definite that it pez�tains to uses which axe specifical2y staied as allowed under a special. use permit. Upon a voice vote on the amended motion, a11 votinq aye, the amended motio�: passed unanimousl�. 2: COAZPREIIENSIVE PAP.K PLAN Mr. Jerrold Boardman, Planning Assistant, made thE: presentation. D2r.' Boardman said the main reason for developing a park plan was thai� previous to.this, all we have had is ii�ventories of what we had on the plan�and no direct�.on per se, as to 4�here property is needed and what type of facilit�� was needed. Th'is comprehensiv� park plan is a guideline to dir�ct tlze Parks & Recreation Canunission ancl also the Council in s�tting. up pri:oritics, as��o �ahich areas need parks and where they should try to acquire land for this use..� . I�t present �ae have 430 acres of •park pro��erty and 100 acr.es of school properi�y �lzat could be used for recreational pur�oses. �� Tlie goals that reereation should accomplish are: (1) pllysical }iealth, (2) mental hcalt}z, (3) tliG social adjustment of the individ- ual, and (4) ini�ellectual and aestl�etic expression. � The way to accomplish these �oals are through the objectiotis of the parks.and recrcation plan. These objectives are an imp.le- �� Planning Commission Meeting - October 3, 1973 Page 12 mentaion of the plan and an attempt to realize the goals of recreation. In order to realize these goals you have to have � a guideline which you plan to follo;a. These guidelines are the meat of the entire comprehansive park plan. It sets up �prcvisions for the amoun� of park land �er inhaUitant, the amowit per inhabitant by neiqrborhood and, the amount of open space.tfiat should be provided to serve an entire area. In doing this we uses st�.ndards from the Department of Natural Resourses and from other Stat�s. The Metropolitan Council a.s in tr.e process of setting up different studies to accomplish , differnt goals in the rietropolitan ar�a, but they haven't . set anything up as yei�. ��Te set �p four gen�rai guidelines and in addition, the park sizes, the �:�opulation they shoul.d serve, and the activities these par}: facilities should generate. In setting up par}cs we have mini-parYs, n�ighborhood parks, City wide par}:s, regional parks, linear parks and special use par}:s. The service area for a mini-par_k is 1/4 mile and th�se ar.e childrens par}cs for children 0 to 5 years old, who are cl.assified as inurtobile. The ne�.glibor�ood park area is 1/2 mile and is accessible by a mor� mobile group of 6 to 15 years old. The other_ four types of �aiT:s are fo� aci.ive or more mobile type use. . i'� The other. guidelines we have set up to achiev� the objectives of the plan ar.e: (1) safety, (2) acr.ess,. (3) lighting, (4) indoor • facilities, (5) school facilities,�and (6) activities. We felt � this was the best guideli,ne we coul.d set up for priorities. t�:e came up �aith the;:e goals and guidelines hy basing them on an inventory and analysis which we have done ar:d we have come to cert�:in conclusions, on which the plan is based. The basic things we covered� were that we took a look at al]. our park facilities and �ahere they were located, plus our school �aciliti�s. We loo}:ed at the population characteristics through- out t.he� entire City . We ' determined �•lhere the 6 to 15 year old group �aas the predominent crap and �ahere the 0 to 5 year old group was prcdomine�zt. ��Te broke this down into group percentages for these�areas,�which will be tised by the Park Department. These group percentages of the different populations in different areas can be used eahen each park is studied separately. We can determine tahere we �ieed park facilities, and when this park is being planned, .w� can .look at.this study and see �ahd will b� the users of the park, to c�etmine �ahat is needed for that park. We used the comprel�ensive plan changes to project the pop- u].ation in differnt areas, which gives us some=}:nowledge of what is going to happen in a given area, how much park f acility � is going to be needed, and what type of park facility will be needec':. a m . • c. �-� Planninq Commission t�ieetinq - Oc�ober-3, 1973 Page 13 In Coming up with our planning implications, we felt that � any part.of the parks and r.ecreation plan depends upon access. Wi�at a r.irculation system does is that it not only serves as a recreation use, but joins our sclzaols, our commercial areas, and other population centers, so we can have pedestrian and bicycle access tr.roughi: the entire City. P�ith this, we liave set up a trail sys�:em that we feel will serve the City to tie our scliool properties, park facilities, our neighborizoods and commercial centers together. This trail systcm will join a Metropolitan-wide trail system, as �•�ell as providing an interious �. system. ' � �''� ` In looking at our population; present and future, and the popul�tion characteristics of i�he neighborhoods, present land available and Lhe barrier.s 7.n the City, and comp�ring them to the guid�].ines, �ve came up �•lith certain pl�.nned proposals. Mr. BoazdTnan as}ced the PlannS.ng Commission to look at the maps includE,d in the plan. He said I�ap A shows the residentia7_ neighborl�aods bro?,en do�•�n by neighhorhaods by barriers . Chart No. 1 sho:as presnt population, the project�d population, the existinq recreational area, �•.hat is recommended at present and what ��ill l�e recom�ended in' the future. 7'hes� are thr_ee actual factor.s that determine �•�hether a neighbonc�od actually needs naore acreac�e or not. One is that there are enouc3h exist�ing park acre- age, but it is poorly located. The second is, that althouqh they are in the service radius, because of certain bGiriers, the neighborhood �might not be scrved. The third is that there is � not enough parY land ir, a neighborhood. A�ap P shoe�s th� mini- par service area and j2ap C shows the neighborhood park service are�:. Map ll shows bike routes and �aalk�vays. We feel that circulation is very necessary to a City, not only automobile circulation, but pedestrian circulation is necessary. t�9e do have a present problem with th� increased use of bicycles. There is a safety problem with both pedestrians and bicycles k:ecause we don't have many sidecaalks in the Gity . _ Something els�'that should be considered in this discussion- is your off-the-road vehicles such as snowmobiles, motor c��cles and niini-bikes. The�e cause problems tiiat can't be overloo}ced. By puttin.g together our informai�ion and guidelines, .�ae have set tip. a cost analysis of the i�rail systcm. Most of the trails that would Ue developed here �aould be de��eloped by using the existing streets. Niost of. the streets are wide enough i:o el.iminate a parking lane, and striped. In some cases ��here we have limited space, we could restrict one side fo.r bicycics and one side for pedestrians. ��Te would have about 22 miles ot streei�s we could use and the cost would come ouL i�o aboui� $140 per block. In the open areas, it woul.d cosi: about $15, 000 per mile. E�cla year tilat this isn' t developed c�e can add £3 � i.o i:he L-oi�al cost . As f ar as funding is concerned, most of the Federal funding is goinc� into tY,e � �FI Planning Commission Meetinq - October 3, 1973 ' Paqe 14 � s�udy phase. It would proUably bc four or five years before i:here will be any funds available from iiUD. �noka County is very inter.ested in this tra:il system and tliere is a good chance tr�at there could be some cost sliarinq with Anoka County. ��Tith this an�.lysis, we also broke do�an each neighborhood and gave a recommendation for each neighborhood. Mr. Drigar:s asked if_ this bike �razl would be accessible to each neighbarhood park. Mr. Boardman said it woula. DZr. Drigans asked ho�a they arr�ved at the cost fiqure of $140 per block for. these i:rails? N,r. �oraclman said �hese figures include curb cuts and at ' major intersect.ions �•�e mi.ght have to �iave bicycle lanes wi�Lh curbing, as a safety f_actor. ti�'e will have to have regul.ated bike l�nes at busy intersection. rir. 1Iarris asked how much room would be i_aken from the street for the •trail system. r1r. Boardman said it �aoulc� be about eighi� feet . �•dhere �•�e have room, we would taJ-.e one parking lane . We can use strEe � right- of-�•ray if we have to . � rir. Clar� said that on a street like Mississippi ��alzere there are side�,ralks, it a�ould b� possible to limit one side for bicyles and one side . �or pedestriaizs . Mr. Linc?bl�d as}�ed ��hat: they would do on residential streets. Mr. Board:�lan said that par3:ina, would be restricted to one side of tlze street. He said �,re have to provide pedestrian and bicycle traffic lanes. . rir. Harris said the �_rgument you're going to get is that in AZinneapolis there is an ordinance that bicycles stay on the street and the side�aalks are for pedestrians, and if its good enouglz for t�sinne�polis, �its good enough for Fridley. Mr.�Boardman said bic��cles are a big recreational use at the present tirne. '�Children ride them to school. The question is �ahat �•ai11 you spend t,o ensure chilctren' s safety . Ho�,r do you control a bicycle? rsr. Drigaizs said tllcr.e has been' a study made on accidents with a recreational vehicle znd the study said that tliere �aerc more people injured from bicycles than any othe.r recreational vehicle. - Mr. Clark said that what this plan is proposing is that tlie r"1 bicycle is the coming thing, and if you have a car parked on the ' strcet, and i:he bicycle rider has to go around this car, there could be soineone injured. If i�he City feels it doesn't want to su��ly bicycle pai.hs , that's fine too I guess, but if �eop].e are c:oing to ride bicycles, there should be a safe means �or i:hcm to gct from onc place to anothcr. � �J'V P�anning Commission Meetinq - October 3, 1973 Page 15 � Mr. Drigans asked if there weze any plans for any additional sidewal}cs in the City. Mr. Boardman said we are talking about .bicycle anc. pedesi:rian routes ar:d the pe�estrian routes should be on sidewalks:" ^ Mr. Ilarris said he knew there were a lot of people in his own neic�hbor_11ood who liked to walk for recreation. He said there is a.lways some danger of wal}:ing in the streets, but in the wintcr wtien the streets were icy and tlzere �,ier� high snow banks it wou]_d be extremely dangel-ous. He said he agreed tlzat there � should be some p�-ovision made so that pec�esi:rians didn't ha�,•e to wal}: on i:lie strcets. • Mr. �3oardm�n said that accordinc, to the plan, anyone should be �b1e to g�t on tl�is trail syst�m and be aale to walk. to any p«rt o� the system. The�- ��ill be able to wal}� to any park. Mr. Harris asked how they �tiTould get past the major barriers? Mr. Boardman said i�here are various �•aays this could be handlcd, either �with control_l�d crossings, or i�� the barrier was v.�ide enough, �oit}i an over�ass, anc� other means. Mr. Drigans said he would like to qet into the areas of recreation as specified on page t�,�o, �-,here you talk about the goals of recreation and you do call this a comprehensive park and recreation plan. Yet, in reading i�hrough this plan, I find very little �ahere you tal}: about the recreational progrums that you have pl.azzned. In your goals, you talk about providing physical activities, providing a diver_sity of recreational opportunities for all aqes, btit yet you don't specify what these programs are. I would �Ll�iink that ihis plan is lacking in what type of recrea�:ional activities our comr,�unity provides or will, provide., in sucli a p]_an as this. You talk about the par,�:s and how they should k�e accessible to our citizens and what the age groups are, yet you don't go ini.o any type of recreational proqram. It doesn't say �ahat the sumner program is or what the goals of the suinmer program ar�, for instai�ce. T think there ar.e many, many programs i.izat the City offers that should b� included in this plan, and cahat the goals of i�hese . programs are. ' Mr. Boardrnan said the goals of these proe�rams follow closely the goals of recrcation. As far as individual programs are con- cerned,• I don'.i� think in this plan that we Cclll determine it the programs i.hat preseni:ly exist, are programs tliat necessarily meet the goa].s or guiclelines or abjectives of th� park plan. Mr. Drigans a�ked why this couldn't be determined? Thi_s p1�7n is talking aboui: specific goals of recreation and talking about �ahat r"'\ .� thcse gaals s}�ould provide, and yet you don't go into any details as to what these iecreai:ional activities are. Mr. IIlair said the park programs are constantly changing. I ' don'i. think there is any way you COLI�.CI SpG'1:1 OUt the programs ancl � what tlie c�oals wouia be. In tYle p.lan, there is an analy�is of wh�it �' is in the par-ks, ��hich I think. covcrs recrcation. Therc is anoi;hcr � par.i: of the •plan �,�Ilere ii� talks ak�out tlie diffcrent siz� par}:� 111C� � ^ � ^ � a 8 Planninq Commission Mceting - Oct=ober 3, 1973 Page 1G what �hey provide. I think this is a11 recreation. rt. ✓ Mr_. Boardman said that if the exis�.ing programs were.part of this plan, you would lose the purpose of the guidelines. What we are tryine� to set up is some type of guideline that will let us pr_ovide space for recreational facilities. We do have progzams and activities that fit ir.. �vii�h our major goals, but as to the plan itsel_f, for providinq space, �or providing diversity and a circulation system, these are recr_eational • purposes. We provi.d� loi�s of activi�.i�s, lots o� facilities in our parY,s. ��?e ��ou1d have to survey each ��i:ea to see if the facilities provided are used, or �•ahat othcr facilities that area .might �vant . Mr. Clar}c said that �ahat this plan provides is space so the recreatzon can hap;�en. I� you were going to go into individual prorrams for each parY., you can take Con;mons Park, for instance, and sa�T that there ar� tennis cour_ts, baseball diamonds, iootball fields"; etc . • � Mr. Drig�izs said you are calling this a park and recreation plan, and I tizin}: it is just hal� a plan, a park plan. I thin}c you should include what kind of recreational activities are avail- able ior the difierent age groups. Mr. Boardman said the goals of recreation are the general goals of what recreation should accomplislz. rir. Drigans asked �ahat the bud�et �aas of the Parks and Recreation Department? Mr. Blair said the total budget was around $435,000. Mr. Drigans �aid a�ortion of that �aas used fo.r parks, another portion is used f'or running some type of program. I am saying �hat you �re providing a pLOgram, so why not say whai� you are providing. Mr. Blair said as far as he was concerned, the plan shouJ_d show recreational areas and not programs. Mr. Drigans said then you are talkinq about a park plan and not a recreational plan. Mr. Boardman said we cannot provide a recreational facil5_ty plan at this time. Hc said we are fulfilling the recreational goals by providing the space for recreation. This is as far as we ca�i go. In order to get a more detailed study of t-�}iat sizould go into individual areas would rec�uire more func�ing. Mr. Drigans said yotz are already providing in this plan where the parks are and what is going to Ue needed �-�nd how many peopJ.e will use them. I think it should be put into the plan the current uses we are making of the parks nocv. Mr. Boardmati said this could be added in survey and ai�alysis. �i � • . , Planning Commission Mceting - October 3, 1973 Page 17 � Mr. Drigans said that if just the flyer.s that the Park Department�prepares were added to this plan, this would show whai: we now provide. �� Mr. Clark said we can find out how many people participated in: each park program. Mr. Blair said he felt that program analysis wouldn't add to this plan. • Mr. Boardman said ii' ��e look z:t our school system, we can see i:hat schools �aere not always located in the right places. It is the same thinq �,rith par)cs . We might be providing facilii:ies that aren`i being used, where another faci.lity �,�ould serve the area be�ter_. That is why I feel. that sho�aing the facilities we have no�•�Uaould only b� an inventory of what is available and couldn't be carried through into the future planning or plan . recon�mendations . . Mr. Lindblad asked if an area needs a park, do tlzey take inito cohsiderat�ion ti�hat the land will�cosi� to provi_de this facility. Mr. Boardman said this plan will set up guidelines and ^ prioiities so the �ark Department and Council kno��a ;•�here they should purc.hase or get by acquisition, the park land to fit the needs of the City. Mr. Blaii said if the facility is really needed, the City pays what it has to, to get the property, Mr. Lindblad asked if they have.a plan for access to the river for boating? hir. Boardman said this wauld have to be under special recreational facilities. . Mr. Harris said that under guideline numb�r 4, it says that l00 of i:he land area oi a new residential development be used for recreational purposes. Mr. Boardman said this is in our code now, either l0o in land use.or 10� in money. - Mr. Clark said the old rate was 50. Mr. Harris asked how much moncy tlie City had got at the old rate, for instance, in t}ie Al Rose Addition. Mr. Clark said it was $15.per lot. Th� new rate is $150.00 per lot. Mr. Harris asked how the schools are tied to this plan. Mr. Boardman said they have sho�•m school areas that are available for use for rccreation. rlr. iiarris said tiie reason he broughi: this up was because it wou]_d seem ridiculous to him to have school property r"� • sitting idl.e if i:here were no ��ark facilities in i:he area. Mr. Iiarris asked if the Island of Peace �vas tied into thc Park Plan. Mr. IIoard�nan said this would be a special use park. Mr. Harris said he thought thi� was a c�ood plan. � � . . ' ' ' �t.:� � - October 3, 1973 page 19 Planning Cor,imission Meeting � 3. CREEK AND RIVER PI2ESERV�ITTON rII�NAGEMENT ORDINIINCE seconded By Lindblad, that due to the � MOTION by ��r� Commission cont�.nue the lateness of the hour, the Plann.ing ement dzscussion on L-he Creek and River PUPonraavo�icer1vote. a11 Ordznance unti1 October 17� �973' vo�ing ay�, the mot.ion carried unanimous1y.• 'rman Harris adjourned the meeting at 12:45 A.PS. . Vice Chai Respect�ully submitted, . . � • � � ' , . . . •; / � . • ' ----�� , ��,�� -�:��-! a �Z y �t�/.^, j Dorothy E�re� son, Secretary I � 0 ( \ � � , . :� � ), �_ �3.3 MINUTES OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 2�#, 19Tj� ' Meeting was called to order at 7:45 p.m., by Chairman Blair. � MEMBERS PRESENT: Blair, Stimmler, Caldwell, Peterson. • `MEMI3ERS EXCUSED : �Vagar . OTHERS PRESENT: Corrine bfoore, 200 Rice Creek Boulevard, 55432, 786-1695, Mini-biking. Betty Boser, 209 69th flvenue �.E., 55432, 784-2292, Mini-biking. John Falldin, 201 69th nvenue N.E., 55432, 784-8776, I�fini-biking. Thomas 0'Hara, 267 69th Avenue N.E., 55432, 786-7615; Mini-bikinb. Chester S�ti�anson, -226 69th Avenue N.E., 55432, 784-6701,�r9ini-biking. Glen Carlsoi3, 217 69th Avenue N.E., 55432, 784-7912, Mini-biking. Jir� LVest, Plariring Department, City of Fridley. Jerry Boardman, Plannin� Department, City of Fridley. �� Mrs. Jerry Boardman, G550 East River Road, 55432, 560-6476, Guest. Paul BroiYn, Director, Parks and Recreation Department. Cathie Stordahl, Secretary to the Commission. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN� Jerry Boardman and Jim Ldest were present on behalf of the Fridley Planning Department, to present the Parks and Recreation Comprehensive Plan. A7r. Boardman opened his remarks hy stating that the changes which were rec{uested by the.Cor,unission, regarding the first section, have bee�l completed. Mr. Blair stated that there were auite a number of pages in the Plan, regarding bicycle trails and off-the-road vehicles. He asked if there was a reason f.or the �xtent of coverage for this particular item. Mr. Boardman stated that the main reason ';aas that there are a lot of mini-bikes, snow�►nobiles, and other such vehicles tvithin the City and unless th�ey are banned entirely, something must be provided for them. The City presently has restrictions on sno�ti�nobiles, whereby they can be operated on City streets by a licensed driver., tivhen going to and from one of the designated areas. Mr. Blair stated that his questions were primarily to determine whether or not these bicycle paths would be used by both bicycles and mzni-bikes. Mr. Boardman stated that this section was about circulation and the entire mode of recreation within the City. There is a possiUility that this could be done, depending on the type of system they would like to provide. It tiaould not be feasible to have both mini-bikes and pedestrians� on the same paths, so a separate system would have to be devised. He felt they should be set up to exclude any motorized vehicles. Mr. Boardma�i turned the discussion over to Jim {Vest who did a great deal of the work regarding circulation. b1r. lv'est stated that�the basic idea �vas to enable the residents to get to the recreational areas, hy use of improved bicycle and pedestrian patils. 1-:e showed the Commissiorlers a map �ahich outlined the trail system which is proposed within the Compreherisive Plan, and stated that it iaas developed as a part of the Open Space Plan which was�developed by the bletropolitan Council. Mr. West referred back to the actual text which explained just how these trails be developed, reasons for the routes, a�id the means of separating the paths from motorized veh�cal traffic. Included, also, was the�cost factor and priorities. plan.includes about 32 miles of trails, 22 of which are on City street.s. These �an be separated from the regular flow of traffic through the use of stripping, ' �curbing, etc. They tried to keep the cost as reasonable as possible. They.are estimating a cost of approximately $140.00 per block for signs, stripping, etc., a little over $1,100.00 per mile. , would. the The areas pylons, or Mr. Boardman explained that most of Fridley's streets are wide enough for two-way traf£ic and a parking iane on both sides. iVhat they are recommendirtg is to take oiie Minutes o£ the Parks � Recreation Commission A9eeting, Se tember 24, 1973. Page Z COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CCON�T); �t� /''tiof the parking lanes and close it off for a bicycle and pedestrian path system. Iie �;�further explained that they would like to separate the bicycle traffic and pedestrian tra£fic as much as possible. iVhere it is available. they ivould like to use the parking lane for the bicycles and install a sidewalk for pedestrians. Mr. Boardman explained that the sys.tem was set up to tie people with services. He pointed out that the schools, parks, and shopping areas are all connected t.o the trail system. The system, as proposed in the Plan, would cost an estimated $150,000.00. Of that ' total amount, appro�imately $15,000.00 would be used for developing the system on our present streets, �vith the balance being used to take the paths into areas where there is no existing development. This total is also subject to 10% to 15% annual increase �or labor and materials. Available funds could be bonding, developing it within the Parks and Recreation Budget, or Federal funding, which is not readily available at this time. The next area diseussed was the neighborhood park area. T}iey looked into the population of the differen�C areas. iVithin each area, there are certain factors which � divide the residents from the available facilities, such as Rice Creek, Highways 47 and 65, Freetivay 694, etc. Eact� area was broken do�an according to the 1970 census and the natural barriers. The projected population was considered and recommended acxeages determined. The mini-park service was set up on a quarter mile radius. Mini-parks are.the normally referred to Tot Lots, which provide apparatus and play /"�areas for the younger set. The neighborhood parks are served by half-mile radius ,\ ections and offer more play areas and faciliiies. Mr. Stimmler asked what was expected at the meeting, as £ar as action taken was concerned? Mr. Boarduian stated that the Plan will be presented to the Planning Commission at their October lOth meeting and that they would like to have the approval of the Commission, if possible. Mx. Stimmler said that as far as he could tell, the Plan, as it is presently written, deals mostly with bicycle paths. He felt that the priorities should deal more with the population in the particular areas. �� Mr, i9est felt that the biggest question should be with the space available. Mr. Stimm�er stated that the plan lays out the voids in our present system. He felt that it was a good plan.in that it �e�ls us just what the needs are in the various areas, but he would like to see the paths system placed secondary., Mr. Boardman said that ihey would take care of that change. Mr. Blair said that he feels the plan should be approved and has no other changes. ti40r1vrv b s�»�ne�7 n, a�s � u�i-c�te Seev�lded b� Pete�c�s�n, �o y � ie _C-i�t� �n,cru.5�r.a�c.a MINI-13IKES AND THE SEARS PROPERTY, �t. ,tlte PcucFi�s a�id Reeh.ea,t.i.an Campnel2eivs.�ve � �veral residents of the area located near 69th Avenue and Rice Creek Boule�ard ��ere present at the nieeting to discuss tlie need for and the problems arising out of .lie use of the Scars Property for mini-biking. bfr. Blair asked Chester Swanson to open the discussion with a report on }iis letter to the Fridley City Council, regarding the need for a facilitx for mini-bikes. Minutes of the Parks � Recreation Commission Meeting, September 24, 1973. Page 3 . . �5 MII�BIKES �CON�T): --, Mr. Swanson reported that there is an ever-increasing number of bikes in Fridley and that there are many who abuse the privilege of riding. As in many similar sports, those fe�a are going to spoil it for everyone. In recent years the mini-bike grew in popularity and a parent would buy a bike for his youngster witliout giving him the proper training and instructions. If the Sears property is closed off, these youngsters will be forced into the streets, doing things they shouldn't, and the results could be bad. h9r. S�aanson agreed that the past Summer had been a bad one for those residents whose property t�.cks up to the Sears Property. He agreed tliat if the City were to lease the property, they ivould have to devise a way to protect the � homeowners. He also stated that an ordinance would have to be adopted to control the noise and that si�ns should be posted. � Mrs. Boser asked just �aho this area would be opened up to. She wondered if riders from Blaine, Coon Rapids, and Spring Lake Park �vould be enc�uraged to come to Fridley to ride. N1r. Swanson said that �ve couldn't make it exclusively for Fridley. ti9rs. Boser said that she could not visu�zlize 150 bikers using 40 acres of land. Mr. Swanson stated that ivhether or not riders came from other Cities �eas of no importance, but they would be expected to abide by the rules and regulations set up by the City of Fridley. Mrs. Boser asked.if he would be rec�uesting that the City enforce the noise level and speed and hir. Swanson said that they �,�ould not necessarily have to enforce the speed. Mr. Blair displayed a 19Z0 map showing an aerial vi.e�a o� Pxi.dley. He �ointed out that ^ here really aren't a lot of places large enough for mini-bikes to operate. One area pointed out was near FMC Cor�oration which has been plotted for development, but could possibly be used. There's another place near Dlidland Coop and a third is owned by Burlington Northern Railroad. There is another area to the North and {�'est of I�'orth Park, which is located in Cooa Rapids, but o��ned by Burlinbton Northern Railroad. There is an area along the River and iVest of FR1C Corporation �ahich �ti•ould be large enough for mini-bikes and Rivervie�a Heights Park �,�hich is approximately 7 acres in size, zs owned by the City and is a possibility. Another place taould be near the Onan Corporation. There is some land in the North Innsbruck area, but it is quite hilly and wooded, and probably not desirable for bike traffic. Dfr. Blair pointed out that in most cases, bikes would have to be trailered in. Mr. Swanson agreed. Mrs. Baser asked if the proposal was to find one specific area within these mentioned? Mr. Blair responded that Ile was not going to pick out one location, but rather that they would make t}iese recommendations to the City Council and that they would have to decide on which area would be best. . Mr. Peterson asked if mini-bike riding was within the frame of recreation? He stated that in his opi�ion, neither sno�amobiling or mini-biking should.fall within recreation as he sees it for Fridley. I�ir. Blair said that this was a questioil that the Commissioners�had to answer for themselves. Mr. Stimmler asked h1r. Swanson about his pro�osal to�the City Council. He referred to the portion where he stated that even very young children are operating bikes and how noise would have to be controlled, by policing. b1r. Stinm�ler pointed out that this �ype of problem is almost un-enforceable and referred to the snow�nobile problems we have had. }�e didn't wan� to infer that thc t�,�o problems are similar, but felt there would be problems. �1r. Swanson said that bikes could be impounded, if violations occurred. Dir, Stimmler said that this would almost involve full time supervision. Mr. Swansoii stated ttiat tlie Fark School Ran�er could take care of fihat. �9r. Stimmler explaincd that the primary purpose for the Ranger was to cut down on the vandalism at the Parks and Schools. ' � Minutes o£ the Parks FT Recreation Commission Meeting, September 24, 1973 Page 4 MINI-BIKES �CON�T); � � Mr. Brotivn stated that the first decision should be whether or not ive need to provide an area for the mini-bikers, and secondly, where should the area be located. Mr. Brown pointed out that t}ie mini-bikers have not orbanized and come for�aard to ask for an area to ride. h1r. Swanson stated that the whole idea of mini-biking and snow- mobiling is to get out by oneself, and riding. It's an individual sport. A4r. Brot,tn suggested that other municipalities be contacted to see just how they have handled their particular problems. Mr. Blair asked the Commissioners for their recommendations. Mr. Peterson stated that he had not received any requests for this type of activity and in his opinion, it does not fit into the scope of recreation in Fridley. Mrs. Caldwell said that she does not own a mini-bike, but that she feels there are a number of residents who do and their interests should not �e forgotten. �� Mr. Blair felt that there are areas within the City which could be used for mini-biking, but that the machines fti�ould almost have to be trailered in. Mr. Peterson pointed out that boating access has not been provided for Fridley residents and he doesn't ieel mini-bikes or sno��nobiles should be given more consideration. M�TTON by Ca.2dwe,�2, �o tceeamrnend �lia,t �he C.i.ty .2avFz �an a de�ab.�e .a�i.�e S�n �he ope�c.cLt.t.an a� �snaw,nab-i,ee.s and m.��u.-6�.(�e� wi tlun F�udeey. " he Motion died for the lack of a second. MOTTO�V 6 S�;i.rnr,1�2�, Secaiided b � � �a�.i�,t, �,ie Pc�� 3 ai� Rech need �a nav-c e a!�e.�.P.� c�2 e a}�e�cct.�san a! m�c�u- ti e� . � Ve,te�r�s�n, tcecamm �.i..an Cofrt�n.u,�-�a�1 C�. SeCULS r��LU QJ"�C� T�E.t�C. V 0 �.0 cLc.�ig �a .�h.2 �sn � �e � U�i. CC�2G/ U� �y Cauizc.i,e, �lu�t ct,i ��.e .c�s ai1 a euu�c�e =�`u ' ec ;� ��a �e1_r ty, �oh �av� ccuz,�,ced— It was suggested that Jim Hill, Public Safety Director, be invited to attend the next meeting of the Commission, to explained the proposed ordinance. � ISLA(�DS OF PEACE AGREEMLNT, The Commissioners asked h1r. Brown for an updating on the lease agreemenfi with the Islands of Peace Foundation. Mr. Brown explained that he had read the agreement and had some questions which he felt must be answered before it was finalized. The Agreement is �o be put on the October agenda. M�TION' by Pe.teh.son, Secovided by Ca.edwe,P�, neque�s�i.v�g �he �.itr.ee�an os Panh�s a�.d Ree�:ea�.i.a�i .tci ,ewc.i�te a.�e.t,t�r. �a tiUc. He�c�'c.i.eh and �Uc.. He�c.�a��sFzy, a�SFu.►1.g {�on �the awscue�r.s �o .ttie que�s�,i.��v� wGu:cl2 �6ie D,i,�.ec.t�n had, negcvccGi,ng .the Id.2anda o� Peaee Agneement. The hla-t,i.a�i eajvu.ed. . Mr. Peterson felt that there was no action which could be taken without the answers � these questions. LAND ACQUISITION PRIORITY LIST� h1r. Brown turned the Commissioner's attention to the memorandum he had written to the Acting City 6lanager, regarding the land acquisition priority list. Mr. Brown askecl the Commission to review the memorandum and maps, and make a recommendation. . Minute� of the Parks � Recreation Commission Meeting, September 24, 1973. Page S �� LAND ACQUISITION iCON�T): ^fr. Brown referred to area #1, the Rico �reek Area. On map la, r4r. Brown pointed out that the area is under water and wouid ��.resent some ��roblems out of the ordinary. Mr. Blair asked if it would be possible to @XChz.ngg s�r�e of the land for a better parcel? rir. Brown stated that that would have to be done ��;h the developer. After some general discussion about ma�s la, lb, lc, and ld, the Commis�=�ners ask Mr. Broi�in to do some research and see if the parcels could be made large enou�h to include a softball diamond and skating rink. .1t4�TI0N 6� Pe�etc��li, Seeond�d 6y Cce2c�c22e, �r� aeee.p� �lze nenUnt ave 2.ai2d QCC((.l.fiS-(�C.U11 u,b .�t j�tc�s�eiz�t'_y �s�a;�� s, a,t 2s z �:�r�. U,�.a,��n �a ca.l�e�c �t�.t�Et �ti� laev��. tis y2ec�s�al�.�a �e � �CU,171e U�rJ c��.�f�i'�-' a jc.ece;:;��e_rinw�c,vr2 .cyi .LZ°cr�.s v;, �'�eri aeqcws.c,i c.c�t .cvr �:,ze h-cee C�cee� o.�~�ea. 11 i� C1lL� 1(U t.� � CC )17�(,{2-(lil�;l U j 3 2 CCCh ✓S � bU tit Ct2{1 �(.i2C'U � CC CZY)1U{1 Q{2 ae ey tc,i,i� z., ar2 E a� u ile,cg t o� aa ��.jc�z �s�atic�s . T,ie ,1 a�`.i.an eahtu.e . Regarding map 2, rir. Peterson stated that wi.th the rfadsen Park facility, he felt we were adec{uately serviced, without proceeding with the purchase near Unity tiospital. Mr. Bro�vn explained that i�tadsen is heavily used and if we could get another 32 acres of land, he f.elt ►tire should do so. MUTIO�'� 6�% Pe,tensor2, Secanded bU 82a.vc, �a .�v�.s�cue� �1{jr.. �cawn �a a�sFi �vn 3 1/2 aetce�s � e Cl��.�cti� f ad y�.c�u,�. �-c,te ari e �ee .c«,tv ��ie j�� S�.o�c,�.c�r./ a s, uef,c�la o�i ecc�StiKa u,,urti �a.t.cut_%t�. vo�c.ytg �z�ty, �iie �`.iU�c.v�2 CaJVU.ed. �SCllSSION: Mrs. Caldwell said she was apposed to the purchase of the Unity parcels �ecause there is a greater need in other areas. Mr. Peterson agreed and stated that the Rice Creek area should have top priority. Area 3a is one k�hich should have a high priority, but we are in need of more acreage, according to Mr. Blair. He recommended that we attempt to acquire as much land as possible, to the iti'est of the land which is presently owned by the City. T1r. Brown will check into this. � ,GENERAL TELEVISION TOT LOT� Mr. Bro�vn updated�the Commissioners regarding the Genera2 Television Tot Lot possibility. He referred to the memorandum from Nasim Qureshi and his own response concerning the property. In h9r., Bro�vn's opinion, the property is too close to the Commons Park, has poor access, and is really too small to be put t-o good use as a Park. The Commission took no specific action regarding the memorandums. MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 5, 1�Tj MEETING� It4�TT�N by Pe.te�so►2, Seeanded by Ccz�dcue2�, �a app�cave �ie Il�i,rui,t�s ab �he Pah.fi� a►2d Rechea.�.i.an Carnm.i�sd�.vn I�tee,t,i.ng cla.ted Sep�e�nben. 5, 1973. rhe i�{o�.i.o�i ea�vc.�.ed, ' ADJOURNI�IENT � �e ti�ee,ti.ng wa.a ad�autcned a,t 10:15 p.m., by Chavcman BCa,ur.. The next regular meeting will be held on rionday, October 29, 1973, at 7:30 p.m., in the Community Room of Fridley Civic Center. The meeting was postponed one week, due to the Veteran's Day Holiday. IRes � ully submitted, - ! ..GZ�,�� ~ - ��<t_<� � ;CA IIIE S'I'O1:D��IT�, Secretary to the G�ommission THE MINUTES OF TII� BOARD OI' APPEALS T1��TING OF SEPTL'MB�R 25, 1973 �� The meeting was called to order by Chairman �rigans at 7:35 P.M. /'\ MEMB�RS PRESENT: Drigans, Crowder, Gabel � � �EFS A13S�NT: Wahlberg OTHERS PRESENT: Howard Mattson - Engineering Aide The approving of the September 11, 1973 minutes was waived until the next meeting. 1. A REQU�ST FOR A VARI�TCE OF SECTION 45.053 4B FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO REDUCE THE SIDI' YAP.D �'OR LiVING AP.rA I'RG.i 10 FE�T TO 8_ rpr,T, TO A770T�� TN�' �:C:T��T\, .1`:n ENLAI'.GTP�G OF A POi.Cii AI'.iA LOCAT�D 0�? LOT 7, BLOCK 5, RIC� CRE�:: TEP.R�C}�; ?�..�T 3i THE SAI�� BEI�G 410 - 67TI� AVEivUE N.E. , r�'.IDLEY t•III�?NESOTA. (P.EQUEST B�' PiR. .yA1:VIN ASP, 410 - 67TH AV��L'� N.E., FRIDLEY, �iii��`1\ESOTA.j Mr. Marvin Asp was present to present his request. MOTION by Gabel, seconded by Crowder, to waive reading the public hearing notice. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Mr. Asp e�plained he now has a 44' x 26' dwelling and wants to add on a l2' x 18' Addition that will be used as a family room. Chairman Drigans stated that a survey was not submitted so the Board does not know tuhere the structures are exactly located. - �^. Mr. Cro�ader asked if a fireplace would be installed in the addition and Mr. Asp /� answexed that there would be no fireplace. Chaixman Drigans asked what kind of wall was existing between the garage and the porch. . Mr. Asp ansc�ered that it was not a firewall at this time but it will be. Mr. Cr�wder asked about the elevation difference between a garage and the living axea floor. He thought it was supposed to be 18 inches. Mr. Crowder asked if it was a must to have windows on the back side liecause of a possible request for a firewall to be installed. Mr. Asp.answered that he�wants the windows for ventilation. MOTION by Cro�ader, seconded by Gabel, to close the public hearing. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Chai.rman Drigans stated that according.to Section 45.151, 1, of the City Code, a survey or plot plan was necessary before a building permit could be issued. He informed rSr. Asp that he should have a plot plan to present to the Council. MOTION by Gabel, seconded by Crowder, to recommend to the City Council, approval of the request from 10 feet to 8 feet, with a notation to the Council that ti�e +� . applicant does not have a survey so the distance between the structurc and tlie lot line is not exact but only approximate, if the applica•_-�t suUmits an.approved � � plot plan. . 0 The Minutes of the Board of Appeals Meeting of September 25, 1973 _ Pa�e 2 The Board would also like the Building Inspector to check on the elevation �� difference needed between garage floors and living areas. �1 . A VOTE UPON THE MOTION,.there being no nays, the motion carried unanimously. ADJOURI�fiiENT : � The meeting was adjourned at 8:05 P.M. by Chairman Drigans. Res e �Efull bmitted, ��A� �� _ � L �1 J _ - /' %/ /��.—�------ �10 JARll t;ATTSON Engineering Aide Acting Secretary - / \ c n ' BUILDL'�'G STq.�TD.qRUS-p�SIGN CONTROL S UBCOD�fITTEE I�fEETII�� F SE�7,j ,' . The meeting was called to order b ^ �1�rlB�� pRESE�,TT; Lindblad, Tonc Y �hairman Linclblad at g; I. RS ABSE,VT: Treuenfels °' Simoneau OTHERS P�SE1yT: , Cariolano Jerrold Boardman, planning Assist DIOTIp,y by Simoneau ant • August 30, 1973 meeting�a aea bY Cariolano a ritten. to Pprove t}1e m. UPON � VOICE lnutes � VOTE, all votin , 1. CO\'SIDE � aYe' the motion carried unan• R4TI0\ OF lmously, USE, LOC.�1TEp `� REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT BEI;\G 500-; ;,0�' IZEGIS'I'E1: L.��;D , .4 i'�'EIY BUILDI�\'G 3��D �;VE��UE � SUR1'E� ,\'U:�1�� FOrZ �,... _ CARTER-DAY ��.�p ,, !�'' �•, FRID R 6, 1'R.-1CT g 55418), �. -��', 6�5- LEY, .�(I\:\ESOT:1. , 7�i �:- �RTi;R-DAY p : .19TH .aVE\�UE �r, � , �RE�UEST , L�.�T .aRE� I � AII,�:`EaPO � �� -- �. � . . , Uonald S v FRIDLEY. L IS, P�tI:�\��;�i.; chmi dt and Bi 11 requeS�. A�so the contrac�or�aIina �f was present. � Bob FitZC�rter-Day �vere present gerald of ,'�lid-Continent for t , I,fr. Fitz Steel said �erald i,� it is app2p�imately 200r Xh12pa�lC Structure the i4�ttl metal sidi of roof. bfr. n� on three sides and ��°ne stor building • 1; • Said Lindblad asked th� a brick Y' St�el �rame it is 13' hi ,• elevation of maSOnry ivall with Struct they are not suregofltthe materialnsard roof ofUloding• 1�fr. Fitz�er; h1r. �Or the shakes as Slble shakes, but said i Tonco asked about the Yet. t is a baked exterior The w�ndows have �n vinyl acr Air. Tonco ask an a��ent y1i � In a�o� fh`e bui lding. A1r. color hite Fitzgera, back as Su e� lf y would t� break up the outside asand the ) color. an ggested by the �onsider a brick PPearance. po s bbick on the back Staff. Afr. Fitz Panel on the j� eapansion, �east) side as g�rald said th e sides and �S 11 20' . tie said �n the sides the this ►vould be the onityould not put �s, he k-uld suggest Y e'��heded t2t Y side used fc it to �ront brick masonrv . • arch' eq bUt �heY liked it � D1r. Tonco asked S�de (parallel lf ther . � asked i f e �°OUld they would 3rd Avenue and residany great loss of - said ver Plant m entiai hou trees been y littl.e loss of °re trees in this sing), Mr. °n the nor designed vegetation ►v area if Lindblad 31s still �would bet� be Placed ould take needed. D1r. Fit.z�ez�, Plenty o f ln the thinnest place. 71�e bui ldin , coverage'from �he area of the � had :'1r• Boa trees and trees, ar�d there in the best rdman said he had ►va Scrub plants. Cartthe CitYsfelt molr�thought perhaps �thaSp�t and felt the b• er-llaY could do so phenting was needed toe£ill inuthe1�� waslcon�plete, �1r. }:�tZ natural screen, AIr. Kalina gerald said h� would said this could be i�or��dVe to _ out, talk to Carter-Day on this�, . . . � , :, - . `�� 3UILDING STAIVDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOri�iITTEE rtEETING OF SEPTEI�iBER 27, 1973 � PAGE TlVO '� Mr. Tonco asked abaut any drainage problem. h1r. Boardman�said they will have to work this out and submit a plan to the City for final approval. ,�Ir. Fitzgerald said he did not believe there would be any problem with the water drainage. Mr. Lindblad asked about the parking lot and area. He said the City requires G" x 18" poured concrete curbing around the parking area, �tihich .. is all blacktopping. Mr. �:alina said precast c�ncrete curbing had been used in the past. _ Mr. t�oardman suggested poured concrete curbing around the entire parking lot with the exception on the east side were either a V-shape roadway or a blacktop berm be used for the drainage. 5tarting just south of the building�poured concrete curbing would be used again. A4r. Kalina thought that this �aould be a possible �aaste of money to put in a temporary curbing since they had no•set future date for elpansion. Mr. Tonco suggested to leave it at their option to put in either a precast curbing or a poured concrete curbing along tlle area used for the future expansion with a blacktop berm used along the drive�aay. ;��r. i3oardman sug- ^ gested.a five year time limit on this curbing be placed. t� A1r. Lindblad asked ab�ut the parking stalls. P�Ir. Boardman said the plans show 9' x 18' but they can actually be set up for 10' x 20' (code requirement) and still have enough stalls. The Board also said all back-up aisles must be 25' as well as the roads leading in. i�ir. Tonco pointed out 10' radius is needed at all entrances and exits. Mr. Lindblad asked about the refuse storage. Mr. Kalina said there won't be mueh from the ne�� office and the dumpster presently located behind the research and development building will be adequate. He said the.dumpster is out of sght from three sides. Afr. Lindblad said the Board would prefer to see it left here since it makes na problems. Mrs. Cariolano asked about outside storage of equipment and general cleaning up of the area. I!ir.. Schmidt said the equipment was screened in and not seen from the public. 1'he reason for tlie equipment being outside is th�at the railroad cars don't arrive in time to ship them, they are waiting for parts, or customers can't pick them up yet. . ^ . rir. Boardman said the City will require some type of screening and ask for cleaning up of the area. /� Ftr. Schmidt s'aid the City has a screen of Russian olive trees between . their property and the Locke Park. Mr. Boardman said he walked the area and more �aill be needed. Also t}iey want the ec�uipment sereeried . to keep the equipment in one area. , .�i J 4� ^ BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCO�AIITTEE NIEETING OF SEPTETtBER 27, 1973 PAGE 1'HREE . Mr. Kalina said he had�checked with some nurseries and was told a Russian olive tree would give a good, full height and a Russian olive shrub would give a good low full screen. They preferred the trees to a chain link fence, not only for aesthetic value but as will as for the dollar value. Mr. Boardman said the City might require both a fence and planting "_ until the trees take over, but$iis can be decided on at the meeting bet��een the City staff and Carter-Day on October 1, 1973. Mr. Simoneau agreed that they should submit a plan for screening of the area and deneral clea:� up for City acceptance. h1r. Tonco said that before a Certi£icate of Occupancy is given this pla:� should be vie�aed and accepted by the City. Air. Lindblad asked about a.landscape plan. r,Ir. Fitzgerald said they are going to leave everything around tlie area as natural as possible. Closer.to the building there will be more planned landscaping. The Board suggested a plan be dralan and brought in for City approval. b4r. Tonco asked about security lzghting. �Ir. S�hmidt said they have � lighting as there is a fair amount of vandalism in this area. %'\ . b4r. Lindblad also said if there was any type of roof equipment (Carter- Day plans on no roof equipment) it must be screened qppropriately for the building. MOTION by Tonco, seconded by Simoneau to recommend to Couneil the approval of the building with the follotiaing stipulations: � 1. Granting is being given for only the grade elevation on the plans presented at this meeting and when Carter-Day is ready zo go above grade elevation and are still using the same plans, they will not have to return to this Board again, on the contingency that Council does approve the plan. 2. Plan for screening and general clean-up of the area be submitted to the City for approval. Before a Certificate of Occupancy can be given this plan must be in and approved by the City. 3, Poured concrete curbing be used around all blacktop areas with � the option of poured concrete curbing or precast curbing be used ' along with a blacktop berm from the south edge of the building, north along the roadway. A five year limit set on this. 4. Drainage plan be worked out and submitted to the City �or approval. 5. Landscape plan be �aorked out and submitted to the City for approval. 0 �3 BUILDING STA.`DARDS-DESIGN CONTRQL SUBCO�L�IITTEE TiE�TING OF SEPTEriBER 27, 1973 ^ Pa�e Four UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 2. CONSIDE24TION OF A REQUEST TO C0�'STRUCT A�'� ADDITION FOR T}-1E PURPOSE OF HOUSI\G I\DUS"I'RI:\L PROCESS EQUIP�!EtiT, LOC41'I'ED ON AUDITOR'S SUI�DI�'ISIO\ \U�tBEl2 �9, LOT S; TEIE S:�'�IE BENG 25-�4TH AVENUE \.�. , FPIULEY, �1I1\LSOTr�. (FEQUCST I3Y TlIE i�II�I�ESOTA • LI;�SEED OIL CU�IP:1\Y, 25-�4�T�1 AVE�;UL-' N.i. , FRIDLEY, AtI��ESOTA 55432) . A9r. Ivill��m Edberg, plant manager, iaas present £or the request. DIx. Edberg said the building is 18' x 20' x 32' and will be used to house a scrubbing system to purify the coal e�aust coming from the boiler room. He said coal is used mainly in the winter as a stand-by fuel and the Pollution Control Agency sa?_d this system �aould have to be installed and used �ahen they are burning coal. lie explained that the system uses water (pri��ate well.) to �ti�ash the particles from the e�laust. The water . is recycled with a loss of 2 to 3 gallons per minute in vapor, so no .water .will be going do��n the seti�ler system. The building has a concrete foundation n�ith a steel structure. The actual cleaning system is the steel structure so a skin of baked enamel steel siding �,�ill be used to � enclose the structure, color coded to match the other buildings. /'� • ' Atr. Edberg said he was informed by one contractor that block. could also be used for the skin without hurting the system structureor change � in plans as presented this evening. The Board said if block �aas used, it would have to be painted to match the existing buildings. ASr. Lindblad asked if there was any problems with the sire plan. r4r. �oardman said no, except vines will haue to be planted.along the fence and trees replacing those «hich have died. D1r. Edberg said Green Giant Nursexy already has their purchase order for the.vines and trees. AfOTION by Simoneau, seconded by Cariolano to recommend to Council the approval of the bui3ding with the following stipulations: 1. If block is used, it will be painted to match existing buildings. 2.. Vines.and trees be planted as specified. UPOy A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 3. CONSIDER.�TION OF A REQUEST TO CONS'['RUCT A NE�V BUILDING FOR TF1E PURPOSE Of� INDUSTf:I:�L �1�D OrFICE USE:, LOC:\'1'ED 0\ LOZ'S 1-'0, CE\TR.aL AVENUIi ADUI'I'IOV TOGETIIER �tt'fkl V:1C:1'I'LD BI:00;� STRI:GT; THG S;'L,�It.: BEItiG � • 1290-73RD :\VE\UL', FP.IDLEY, AlI`\I:SQ'1':�. (RE�UES'C BY B(tY:1N'l' FR;INKLI�I, � 900 1�EST COUN`1'Y P.UAU D, NL'GV 13RIGli1'0�, AIIN\F.SOTA 55112 . 0 ^ KUiLDING , � PAGE F I1rE �,. �� . � L� cT.��TnnRns-UESIGN CONTROL SUBCOi�'��1ITTEE �lEE'I'ING OF SEPTE�IBER 27, 1973 �� t�tr. Dick Brama was present for the request. rir. Lindblad asked if this warehouse �aas going to have a joining parking lot with the tiaarehouse facing 72nd Avenue, built by Bryant Franklin. Dir. l�rama said he believes there is no objection from his mortgage company an the joining driveway or on the easement the City holds (so long as Bxyant Franklin does not build on the easement). Mr. Brama said they wou]d like to join the parking areas,as presently the trucks are breaking down the poured concrete curbing on the 72nd Avenue parking lot. It ti�ould be both economically practical and better looking. . There was no problem with the parking lot, as blacktop and curbing and drive�aays meet City code requirements. � hSr. Lindblad asked �o-r a landscaping plan. h4r. Brama said they had one drawn up that day, but A4r. �3oardman said he �aould like to go over tl�is with him so they can tie the landscaping in with the 72nd Avenue ��arehouse landscap�ng. � � The Board asked about refuse. D4r. �rama said this l,rould be inside the �aarehouse. Tir. Lindblad explained this would have to be screened if r��o�'ed outside. Jerry Boardman said the. drainage plan wi?1 have to be �aorked out ��ith the City. • Mr. Brama sai�d the laarehouse was going to be constructed of a precast concrete panel tiaith a natural color raked finish. The color can be changed by either staining or painting. i�tr. Brama pointed out that their <<-arehouse on Beech Street was going to be stained a dark brown with a gold tirm. The Board asked h1r. Boardman if it would be acceptable to the Cit}' to paint the outside of this building. bir.. Boardman said that the City Engineer wants some type of color elevation,so the 72nd avenue �aarehouse can be tied into this structure. Mr. Simoneau ►aanted to knotia if this was constructed the same as their 72nd Avenue warehouse. �ir. Brama said no, this was a 100o improvement. This precast offers a more versatile exterior with smooth interior walls, a better heat loss �actor, sound proof and fire proof. btx. �o�ardman asked if they could change the design of the exterior since they had speculated that it would be used by only one firm for storage area and the present plan has an exterior winciow and door design for multiple users. t•1r. Brama said yes, doors and windo}�;s could be changed, but any severe changes cost more money and more building support must be used. He said it was hard to make a warehouse look attractive, because it is a practical building and the renters eti=ant to get the most out of their space and workers. Windo�as interfere �,�ith both of these wants. �. � BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCO�f�tITTEE b4EETING OF SEPTEI�IBER 27, 1973 ^ PAGfi S1X ' The Board suggested a colored elevation be brougltin for the City sta£f to go over. They could make the final decisions on the exterior, and get it to match with and coordinate �aith the 72nd Avenue warehouse exterior. D4r. Lindblad asked if there were security lights. rlr. Brama said there are lights on the back lot for parking and loading and decorative " lights on the front. '. Afr. Brama said there is no equipment on the roof. This is normally hung from the ceiling inside. If there is any outside.,it will be screened. Air. Boardman asked ho�v high the retaining wall was . b4r. Brama said . 3 to 4 feet high. �Ir. Boardman said anything over 3 feet requires a railing and the City would like to see it screened. ri0TI0N by Cariolano, seconded by Simoneau, to recommend to Council approval of the new structure with the following stipulations: 1. Landscape plan be worked out with the Planning Department. 2. Drainage plan be worked out with the Engineering Department. /'� � 3. A colored elevation be dra�an up and brought in for staff approval before �going to Council. 4. Railing be provided on retaining wall i£ over 3 feet and screened. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all vating aye, the motion carried unanimously. Chairman Lindblad adjourned the meeting at 10:05 p.m, Respectfully submitted, ��a��l1L� O�-F/lZ Paula R. Lon � g Secretary ' \ 0 / \ / � /"\ OFFICIAL NOTICE CITY OF .F�2IDLEY _ --- - - - - - - -- _- - - PUBLIC H�ARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO WHOM IT.MAY CONCERN: Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public � Hearing of the Planning Commission of the City of Ftidley in the City Hal? at 6431 University Avenu� Northeast ori Wednesday� October 17, 1973 at 8:00 P.M. in the Council Chamber ior the pur�ose oz; n request ror a 5peciai use rermzt, SP #73-10, by Trygve Gisen, per Fridley (+Z±1, (�;'n�n Cnnti nr� dF _Q�1 � i� Z1 � t,tn rnn- struct a second accessory building, a shed to.be used for the storage of tools, on Lot 4, Block l, Riverwood Manor Addition, lying in the South Half of Sectic�n ].0, T-30, P.-24, City of Fridley, County of Anoka, Mir?nesot�. � i,. .., L,. a .i � n n• , m GE17Gi 3iZy iv�.a ��u a � % l� S nI.`v'c:.Y'v'iciv �2ir'c^�C2 N.E. Anyane desiring to b° hear� �,��ith reference to the above matter may i�8 h�aid 'a � �?"i15 411ttC . Puulish: Octobe� 3, 1373 October 10, 1973 ED�aARD J. FITZPATRICK CI�� ;n�� PLANNING COMMISSION !� � CI`PY UF 1'RIULI:Y A1INNESO"1'A PL.�NNII�G AND ZONII�G I�OR,1 !� -�� 3 �� `' nnber.✓ 0 C�/� � � ^ APPLIC�NT' S SIG:r��TU�C � Z�"��'� 'l ��"��'� `— � �/ �—~ � Address �/ 4� s /� � G� C'r L� ((= t� / c' i- �� ' C r� 1�iii��l rr �' � Cf T@�C��}l�?1_. T,.J.,.. 7,G� ^ � L^ � � rROi�LR�r�� os�,ti�r. � s szcr� t�ru :� .--� �� c' Address Telephone I�umber. i TYPL OP RLQUCST 1�`� � ; `� �Rezonin� � � ' f ,� Spec3.a1 Use , `� Pcrmi.� � � APproval. of ' � ��Yrclimi�iar.y Plat , � Appxo�� c.l o f Fin. l 1'l�it 5treci.s o� � ';: T—AIJ.cy Vacation � �tj1C;T � � _-_.-- , � Stxeet Loeata on of Propert; �i �-S~ �� ✓ �' �' �i i C% c.cl r' � �� (' <, � � _ ; .�i l � ' � , .�,� . Lebal Bescri�tic;� of Fro�ix�y��-:�� ''^".-c� . .•-•-'-� �'`-"`?-�* • t)�•�i�'•:2'f 7(\'y'�'tr�� r1�G�liif.u}it^ii'. 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' ' _ � t3 lT r? �h 7~ tr ii ti `� �.C'� ��11�t�:� F.'i�YItLC! _ 1J�� tli.^. jCti:'.5.� Da .�a�%'� �i a`eT+ .v�-..�► ('�" r an,. ...�.... �' e 6�UlA �t n i.^ � c,:;:.7s,s.�u .Ct3 L'«,. v-..,,r; t�c,:,u �fvt�:s: ' �� t•�3 \ C/ f.�!:;3��<<;c� F�. ciS.r:d �y c?�� p?ctntiin� Gor..ai��9oz ori �/�?:�? «,-. -...�--.�..;----------- �- �r�i7��+iF•� Z�i �ili: i:iili'v:iiii� i.i�iii.iAirJ.O:�.`:; �i:,'�^v �,�,�r � � ::=id:U UL':� L:.` i'•� „�w ._.� Ss;:��cC ta thc �'q2lv�tin� Cor�a�tia��: f � ' �:..: - - '�`." . - - - • . . . .. ., �,S .. � d.:�� MAILING LIST � SP#73-10, Trvgve Olsen to construct a tool shed � on Lot 4, Block t, River- wood Manor Addition Ms. Heidi S. Licht i7.21 Riverview Terrace N.E. Fridley, Minnesota 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Burton Dahlquist 7161 Riverview Terrace N.E. Fridley, 2•ii��n�sota 55432 hir. & D�rs. John [�ndrusko ?157 P.iv2rview T(�Z'Z'�C2 N.E. Fridley, r4innesota 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Thomas Lutz 7153 R�iverviev� Terrace N.E. Tf �� 7 ' .L � r r n�l �l T 11U11:Y � 1"11J.li1CSC) l..d JJ'�t J G �' Mr. � Mrs. Tryge Olsen � 7145 I�ivervietti� Ter-ruce N.E. Fridley, P�linnesota 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Jon Dahl 7131 Rivcrvi2w Terrace N.L. Fridley, Minnesota 55432 Mr f. Mrc Tl��ri r7 Ty+�rc�ol nr+r� 1'll • tt �✓• L 4. Y 1�..1 L �.�-.t.. -L- L� 11 V. 7105 Riverview '1'errace N . E . Fridley, Minnesota 55432 `.�� lanning Commission Oct. 2, 1973 Council Mr. & Mrs. Gunter Klug 7138 Riverview Terrace N.E. Fridley, Minnesota 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Roger Claesgens 7130 Riverview Terrace N.E. Fridley, Minnesota 55432 School D�_strict No. 14 6 0 0 0 ��7e st Moore Lake Drive Fridley, Minnesota 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Douglas Larson 7"s.�� : i��r�vi�:•. '�'err:c� ��.L'. Fridley; Minnesota 55432 rir. & rSrs. Rouert DeVries 7158 Riverview Terrace N.E. . �Y�!?�Pl7F MinnE?�nt? �,�,d�? - -- -. ._.. ... _ ... ___. ____._. . ----- .-- - ' ' r4r. & Mrs. L. � Vernon Moen . iI54 �Ri'��e�`sli.�w �T��`�r�C:e iv . E. 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Due to -th� fact that the fol].owing people will not be avaiZable to r�eet on Wednssday, October 17th for various reasons, the aganda item Armory Site will be placed on the agenda for the Planning Co:nmission meeting for Z�7ednesday� Idovember 7, �973• . � �\ Bob Aldrich - Paul Brown - Don Blair � You are hereby no�i:iied by this ].etter of the-change in dates for this ite:n. P].ease record this change. General Cheesman has already agreed to this change in date. He has already been notified by phorte. . Sorry fflr the change but it is important that evzryone be in attendance if possible for thi.s important topic of interest to us al.l. PB cc: eity hianager :d, r