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CITY OF FRIDLEY
SPECIAL JOINT MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION & BOARD OF APPEALS
NOVEMBER 28, 1973 PAG� 1
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Fitzpatrick called the meeting to order at 8:10 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Fitzpatrick, Harris, Lindblad, Drigans, Bl�ir
None
Darrel Clark, Community Development Adm.
Board of Appeals Members:
Harry Crowder
James Plemel
Virginia Wahlberg "
Patricia Gabel
l. �CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED
PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S. #73-09, BY THE WALL CORPORATION:
being a replat of the East Half of the Northwest Quarter
of the Southwest Quarter of Section 14, T-30, R-24, City
of Fridley, County of Anoka, Minnesota; with exceptions.
(Former Riedel property.)
A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF SECTION 45.073, lA, FRIDLEY CITY
CODE, TO REDUCE THE AREA REQUIREMENT FOR APARTMENT UNITS FROM
2,500 SQUARE FEET PER UNIT TO 1906.08 SQUARE FEET PER UNIT TO
ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 130 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THE
SOUTH 698 FEET OF THE NORTH 1066 FEET OF THE'WEST 385 FEET OF
THE EAST HALF OF THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF THE SOUTHWEST Q[JARTEkZ
OF SECTION 14, T-30, R-24, ANOKA COUNTY, EXCEPT THE WEST 30
FEET TAKEN FOR STEET AND UTILITY PURPOSES, THE SAME BEING 6401
TH STREET N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA. (REQUEST BY WALL CORPORATION
030 CEDAR AVENUE SOUTH, BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA.)
Mr.'�Rudolph Dan'te was present to represent the petitioner.
Mr. Drigans said the Board of Appeals had tabled the request
for a variance by the Wall Corporation from 2500 square feet per
unit to 1906 square feet per unit for an apartment complex, at
t.heir meeting of November 27, 1973 because the Planning Commission�
had asked for two.alternate plans at their meeting of,November 21st.
The Board of Appeals decided to have a joint meeting with the
Planning Commission so they could mak.e their recommendation on the
same plat recommended by the Planning Commission. The plan presented
to the Planning Commission at their meeting of November 21st, had
a cul-de-sac road to 8 lots fcr a total of 28 R-1 platted lots. We
didn't consider this proposal too encouraging, so we asked the Wall
Corporation to look at a couple of alternatives. The first alterna-
tive was to have a large apartment complex on the R-3 area surrounded
by all open area with no lots platted in the R-1 area. The second
alternative was to take out the lots served by the cul-de-sac road
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and just_have 23 residential lots, with the addition R-1 open area
being used to justify more than the 130 unit apartment complex
originally suggested. The Planning Commission.said they were
thinking of somewhere between 160 and 165 units.
Mr. Drigans continued, that the Wall Corporation came back
to the Board of Appeals meeting on November 27th with the proposal
as we described with a request for 180 units with 23 residential
lots. �
Mr. Drigans said this brought everyone up to dat� as._to where
�hey__we�e at the pre�ent time.
� Mr. Dante said the preliminary plat he was presenting was the
same plan they had presented at the Board of Appeals meeting: The
plan presented at the last Planning Commission meeting had a cul-
de-sac road to 8 lots off Mississippi Street. At the Plats &
Subdivisions-Streets & Utilities Subcommittee meeting they had
presented a plan with a cul-de-sac road off 5th Street to 5 lots. .
It was determined "�� that meeting that�this cul-de-sac plan would
�cost about $25,000 oi $5,000 per lot. Ae said the Wall Corporation
had taken out the cul-de-sac proposal and have taken an area of 8.5 :_
acres, which is open area, and are asking for 180 apartment units
which would make one unit for every 2,048 square feet of land per
unit, which would all be built on the R-3 portion of the property.
Mr. Drigans said the Board of Appeals can only consider thE:
R-� portion of the proper�y for the variance request. He said
that some of the R-3 property does extend in to the platted R-1
lots on the South side of this property, so there is an overlap
of zor�ing. The figures have been a problem to us because the
figures used by the Wall Corporation and the figure� used by the
City staff do not agree, so we have had a problem in evaluating
this proposal. Mr. Dante has said there is 368,725 sQUare feet
of open space and the City staff says it is around 360,000 square
f eet . .
Mr. Dante said in using the R-3 only and allowing 130 units,
the City says the square footage per unit comes out to 1906.08.
This same variance r�otice gives the dimentions as 385' x 698',
but because of the 30 foot right of way for 5th Street, the actual
amount of buildable R-3 land is 355' x 698'.
Chairman Fitzpatrick said as he understands this proposal,
some of the R-3 i.s in the R-1 plats and the unplattec�.R�l is
going to be used in conjunction with the apartment complex, although
the actual construction of the apartment complex will all be in the
R-3 zoning. �
�'� ' Mr. Dante said the ponding area which is all R-1 zoning will
- be owned and maintained by the apartment complex. The R-1 lots
could have been larger�, but they were set at the code requirement,
so �his.gives more open space that must be maintained by the apart-
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Mr. Clark said if you use the code requirement of 2,500 square
feet per apartment.unit, then they can only have 92 units on this
R-3 property. If you want to rationalize the variance by using
the vacant R-1 area to justify granting the variance, this is your
decision.
Mr. Fitzpatrick asked if there was any problem of platting a
lot with two zones. Mr. Clark said there wasn't.
Mr. Harris said that according ta our ordinance, you can use
R-1 propFrty for parking lots for apartments. Mr. Clark said
this would require a Special Use Permit being granted.
Mr. Dante said that all the constructian for this apartment,
including the parking, will be held to the R-3 portion of the
property. �
Mr. Fitzpatrick asked how many units could be constructed
by using 2500 square feet per unit on•the R-3 portion.of the
property and the unplatted R-1 property.
Mr. Clark said he had prepared some information on this
before the meeting and he gave each member of the Commission, and
� Board.of Appeals a copy of this information. He explained that
the R-3 land.ecuals 228,975 square feet and this divided by
2,500 square feet equals 92 units. The R-1 vacant land in the
ponding area is 74,750 square feet and this devided by 2,500 square
feet would equal 30 units. The R-1 vacant park land is 55,003
square feet divided by 2,500 s�xuare feet equals 22 units, for a
total of 144 units. Our ordinance requires that.l0% of R-1 platted
�and�be dedicated for park land. On this plat it is approximately
230,000 square feet, so the dedication would be Z3,000 square
feet and this divided by 2,500 equals 9 units which would have to
be subtracted from the 144 units, so that 135 units would be
allowed if all the open space of the unplatted property were zoned
R-3. If you are talking about 180 units on this same property,
. it would make the square footage about 2,000 per unit. He said
k�e had talked briefly with the City Attorney by telephone today,
and he said he thought he could 'defend the City in a court of law
for granting a variance based on the R-3 property and the vacant�
• R-1 property to allow 144 units and he felt it might be difficult
to defend the City if the units went beyond this amount, but he
said he would like some more time to think about this.
Mr. Lindblac3 said he favored using the entire 14 acres for
figuring the density on the R-3 property, and having a 225 unit
apartment building construct �d on the R-3, surrounded by all
open space and park land, and not have any R-1 platted lots. He
�� said he felt the open land was more of a buffer for the adjoining
R-1 property across the street from this site than platting more
R-1 property. There is heavy traffic in this area and with people
backing out of driveways on 63rd Avenue, 7th Street and Mississippi
Street� would only add to this traffic problem. The apartment complex
could have controlled access.
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Mr. Dante said he had suggested this plan and thought it was
a good orie. The construction of the apartment complex would be held
to the area zoned R-3.
Mr. Drigans said if you go back into the history of this
property, it was all zoned R-1, and when part of it was zoned
R-3, it was felt the balance of the property should be R-1 to
create a buffer zone between the R-3,and the surrounding area.
Mr. Drigans said he felt it was up to the developer of the R-1
area to determine what type of market there will be for the R-1
property with R-3 zoning behind it.
Mr. Lindblad said if we go ahead with this plan the �ay it is
being presented tonight, and in the future find that the R-1 lots
cannot be sold because of the apartment complex, it will be too
late then to change the apartment units; and the R-1 area could
sit there undeveloped.
Mr. Plemel said there had been a good market for property
on Mississippi Street, and maybe with the.energy crisis, there
coulc� be quite a few people who would like to live close to
shopping, buses, etc. � .
Mrs. Wahlberg asked Mr. Dante if the Wall Corporation would be
�, selling the R-1 lots individually. Mr. Dante said they plan to
sell the entire p.latted R-1 to one builder. He said he has
prepared a letter that is ready to go out which will be sent to
developers of R-1 property:
Mr. Crowder said he felt the problem seems to be that the
City says they want 130 to 135 apartment units in this complex
and the Wall Corporation says they want 180. Thi�s seems to me to
be a major confrontation and if some compromise can't be worked
out, all this discussion seems academic. Somewhere along the line
an agreement must be reached on the number of apartment units which
are going to be aYlowed on this site.
Mr. Clark said the City p]_anning staff is not planning 130
units. T think any planne.r could design a building with 300
units for this site. What determines the amount of units is our
code requirements. �If you used our code requirement on just the
R-3 property they could only have 92 units. By using full credit
for the open R-1 land, it gets the units up to 144.
Mr. Crowder said his question to Mr. Dante is if 144 units
are attractive to the Wall Corporation. Mr. Dante said not with
�3 residential lots. Mr. Crowder asked how many units the Wall
Corporation would'need to make it economically feasible to have
23 residential lots. Mr..Dante said 180 units.
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Calhoun. In three
occupied. He said
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so all the view is
they have just built 180 units off of Lake
and a half months we have them 96 to 97%
Mr. Utter had been over to look at this
was impressed with it. He said it was designed
to inside court�s. These units feature either
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a sunken living room or sunken master bedroom and fully electric
kitchens.
Chairman Fitzpatrick said the City Attorney has stated it
might be difficult to defend more than 135 to 144 units on this
property.
Mr. Harris said he thought the City and the Wall Corporation
had come to an agreement at their special meeting of October 17,
1973 and I think we should work within the guidelines set up at
this meeting. Mr. Clark said that at this meeting many different
figures were mentioned for the number of units for the apartment
complex from 125 to 135. At the end of the meeting there was a
summation of what was discussed but there was no motion made.
He said this was an alternative to the Wall Corporation's proposal
to have 155 rental townhouses that would be smaller than those
originally proposed, with one car garages. Mr. Harris said at
this meeting there was an agreement for 135 apartment units and
23 residential lots.
Mr. Clark said he would have to say in defen�e of the Wall
Corporation that they came into this meeting with a proposal
for 155 townhouses and came out with this alternative.
Mr. Dants said he did mention at that meeting having 225
apartment units with the balance of the property being used for
a park-like area. The people representing the,Wall Corporation
and the Riedel property were asked�to le�ve whil� the Council
discussed this, and when we came back to the meeting this aiternate
proposal was brought up. A very rough drawing was made to show
what they were suggesting. I asked the City Engineer what the
code requirement was for R-1 lots and this was just a guess as to
how many residential lots there would be.
Mr. Clark said the combination of the residential lots and
the apartment units would come to about 155 units, which would
keep the density on the property about the same as if it had been
a townhouse development, and he thought perhaps the Council was
trying to come up with an alternative so the units would be about
the same.
Mx�. Harris said there has been mention of a preliminary plat
with 8�lots being served with a cul-de-sac road off Mississippi.
This was not the preliminary plat•approved at the Plats & Subdivisions�
Streets & Utilities Subcc�mmittee meeting of November 14, 1973. Mr.
Dante said on the plat presented at that meeting, the cul-de-sac �
was off 5th Street, but hecause the road was not wide enough, it
had to be changed. The plan with the c�l-de-sac road off Mississippi
made only one access to Mississippi instead of three. .
Mr. Harris said this was not the plat approved_at the Plats &
Subs meeting.
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Mr. Harris said h� likE:s the plan where the apartment complex
would be built on the R-3 ar:d the balance would be open land, but
he didn't think.the neighbors would stand for this. Mr. Clark
said he didn't think that plan could be used without rezoning the
entire property to R-3.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said we are faced with making a recommendation
that is beyond the number of units suggested by the City Council
or below the number that the Wall Corporation says is economically.
feasible.
Mr. Drigans asked about the availability of City services
and utilities if we recommend more units for this property. Mr.
'Clark said this would be no problem as far as water and sewer.
Mr. Drigans said we also had a list of stipulations that
some agreement had to be reached on also. Mr. Clark said these
stipulations represent the original R-3 zoning stipulations and
stipulations that came out of the October 17th Council meeting.
Mr. Drigans said he asked the Wall Corporation to respond
to these stipulations at his meeting.
I� MOTION by B1air, seconded b� Lindblad, that the Planning
Commis'sion receive the prepared statement by the Wa11 Corporation
in answer to the stipulations by the City. Upon a voice vote, a11
voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Dante said he thought the�stipulation on what these units
should rent for was way out of line because this should be.determ�_ned
by the Wall Corporation. He said that limiting this building to
2 to 2� stories was out of line also, when the code said the building
could be 6 stories, not that the WalT Corporation wanted a six story
building,. Mr. Dante said that the recreational facilities would
depend upan how many units they built, and as far as a tot lot,
they weren't even sure they were going to rent to people with
�hildren. He said as to,�he requFSt for preserving the large grove
of trees, these were mostly Elms and scrub.
Mr. Clark said r►e believed the rental rates were mentioned by
Mr. Wall at the meeting of October 17th with the Council. Mr. Dante
said this was take:n out of context and Mr. Wall was talking about
the 180 unit apartment �uilding that Mr. Dante has already mentioned.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said that where ever these�stipulations had
come from, they are not stipulations that the Planning Commission
has made on this plat.
^ • As the plan has changed, these stipulations would just be
' advisor.y to the Planning Commission, Mr. Fitzpatrick continued,
� an2� as far as the outside recreational facilities, even if they
were not needed for the apartment complex, we would still be faced
with having facilities for the R-1 property.
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Mr. Drigans said Mr. Clark has brought up the point that at
the time of the rezoning to R-3, there were stipulations agreed to
that wot�ld still hold on the R-3 property. Mr: Clark said there
was a signed agreement at that time. Now we are having a different
complex on property that was rezoned for another purpose. He said
he didn't think the tennis courts had been part of the agreement.
Chairman Fitzpatrick asked Mr. Dante if the stipulations he
had given to the Planning Commission this eveni�g were the one's
tr�e Wall Corporation would agree to. Mr. Dante said they were.
Chairman Fitzpatrick read the prepared s�atement by the
Wall Corporation on the stipulations they would agree to. It
is as follows:
l. Provide a drainage pond on the said property as shown on
the approved final plan which would receive the draina�e
from the adjoining properties and drain the said property.
The surface water will be stor.ed in the pond during the �
� rain and will be let throught with an overflow into the
existing storm sewer at Bennett and 7th Street slowly after
the rain storm subsides. The location of the permanent
portion of the pond would not be any closer than 100 feet
from any road right-of-way lines. The design cf the permanent
portion of' this pond would be based on the 5 year frequency
:�8..2 acre feet) with the temporary expansion of the pond to
be designed for 50�year frequency (12.0 acre feet). The
water in the �:�ermanent pond would be pumped up to a fountain
for aer.ation purposes to eliminate the stagnation effect
of the water in the permanent pond. The bottom and the
shoreline of the pond will be such that it is as maintenar:ce
free as practical and the whole shoreline and the grounds
around the ponding area will be landscaped. The design of
the complete drainage and storm sewer system in this property
shall be �:pproved by the City Engineering Department and
storm sewer pip�.ng constructed to the City's specifications,
but not to exceed mean specs now existing. City agrees thE:
watershed area for this property shall not be increased. .
2. Provide a drainage easement to the City of Fridley for the
ponding area which will be under water considering a 50
year design frequency.
3. Bear fully the cost of the total drainage system within the
property. If in the future there is additional outlet
construction necessary, this property will pay their share of
the assessment for the improvement. Such assessment based
on construction required for the Wall Corporation property
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4.a) Keep the building within the R-3 zoned area.
b) Provide about 80 garage stalls which is a little over
one third of the total �eeded parking stalls.
c) Provide recreational facilities, including swimming pool,
sauna, party room and exercise room at the discre�ion
of the Wall Corporation.
d) Keep all the ponding and drainage facilities outside the
proposed platted residential lots. The upkeep and �
mainten«nce of these areas to be part of the apartment
complex.
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Outdoor. rer.reational facilities will be at the discretion
of the Wall Corporation. �
If possible, preserve hE:avy grove of trees in the northerly
area of the property.
g) Provide.good landscaping. .
h) Proper water circulation and upkeep of the ponding area.
;� Mr. Lindblad said that in another discussion, Mr. Dante said
he felt they would want to provide more than 80 garage stalls.
Were they now saying they would put in 80? Mr. Dante said he thought
they would be providing more than this. Mr. Drigans said that at
the Board of Appeals meeting the Wall Corporation did present a
proposal that underground parking would be provided. He said in
the prepared statement from the Wall Corporation they make�refer-
ence to many of the stipulations that the City has proposed, only
they are at the Wall Corporation.'s discretion. .
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Chairman Fitzpatrick said we now have the job of comparing
the stipulations of the rezoning and the stipulations by the
City on the sheet dated November 13, 1973, and the stipulations
presented by the Wall Corporation.
Mr. Drigans said one stipulation that was missing from t�e
Wall Corporation stipulations was 2C of the City stipt:lations.
This reads "Waive any liability against the City for ponding
the water on this property and drop any pending lawsuits against
the City". Mr. Clark said the pending law suits were dropped
at the time of the rezoning.
Mr. Drigans asked where we stood as far as the original
stipulations of the rezoning when the property was going to
be used for a different purpose. Chairman Fitzpatrick said
the rezoning stipulations still stand, but we can recommend
changes.
M�:. Harris said he would like to know the stipulations
that w�re agreed to at the time of the rezoMing, by both parties.
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,�`; Mr. Clark said there was a stipulation to plat the land, which
is what they are doing now. .
The paragraph on drainage is the same on all three interpretations
of the stipulations except the limits of the temporary ponding
around the time of rain could extend beyond the 100 foot limits,
and the Wall Corporation have added that the specs are not to
exceed those existing in the City. Mr. Clark said this was no
problem because he was sure the specs would be the same as in any
othe:r part of the City, and it did have to be approved by the
City EnginFering Department. Mr. Clark said the second paragraph"
is the same except on the City stipulations they have added
"including tr.e storm sewer inlet and outlet". Mr. Dante said
he did not include this because he didn't know what it meant. Mr.
Clark said that the intent was that the easement to:the City of
Fridley would include the 12 acre foot pond plus the inlet pipe
and outfall pipe. Mr. Dante said thE:y would agree to that.
Mr. Dante said they omitted the next item that said "Waive
. any liability against the City for ponding the water on this .
�� property and drop any pending lawsuits against the City"e Mr.
Clark said he thought the purpose of this�stipulatior1 was to
insure the City that if this pond should malfunction, that the
Wall Corporation would not place « new lawsuit against the City
for any damage to the complex. Mr. Clark said that if we ha�
� an excessive amount of rain and the ponds filled up and water
came into th� basement of the apartment complex, even if this
. was a City approved plan, we would consider this an Act of God
and would not want to be blamed. Mr. Dante said he could see
this but he wasn't agreeable for a blanket clause holdirig the
� City blameless. Mr. Iiarris said he agreed with Mr. Dante. He
was not in favor of blanket hold blameless clauses either. He
said he would recommend that this stipulation be rewritten to hold
the City harmless if the water levels exceed the designed expectations,
. or something like that. If this is designed for the 50 year flood
and we have a 150 year flood, this would hold the City harmless,
expecially when flood in�urance is goi�g to be so cY�eap in the
City of Fridley.
Chairman Fitzpatrick said we can leave this stipulation in and
ask to have it reviewed at the Council level and have the City
Attorney decide on the exact wording.
• •� Mr. Clark•said the next stipulation was D.. "Set the lowest
floor elevation of the walkout type home at least 3 feet higher
than the 50 year flood line. The lowest floor elevation of a non-
walkout type home will be no more than 18" into the 50 year flood
line with a grade elevation at least 3 feet higher than the 50 year
flood line. The lowest grade elevation for the recreation bt�ilding
will be no lower than 3 foot into the 50 year flood line with flood-
�` proof construction up to the 50 year. flood. Rest of the structure
must be water-resistant construction". Mr. Drigans said this
doesn't sound like a stipulation of rezoning, more of development.
Mr. Clark said this was for the townhouses that were part of the
origi.nal plan in the rezoning request.
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Mr. Fitzpatrick said this stipulation was not in the
Wall Corporation stipulations and asked Mr. Dante if he would
accept this stipulation. Mr. Dante said no. He said this would
pr.etain to the R-1 portion of the property and�they were not
going tc accept stipulations for the developer of this property.
If the City wants stipulations on the R-1, they should be taken
up with the developer.
Mr. Drigans said we are being asked to approve a plat with
R-1 lots. Mr. Clark said these stipulations could be placed
on the R-1 lots at the time building permits were taken out
but he felt strongly that this stipulation should pertain to
the apartment comple� also. Mr. Harris said he thought we needed
this stipulation on the R-1 lots, and whet�er its put on now, or
later seems immaterial.
Mr. Clark said the next stipulation was stipulation E, "Bear
fully the cost of the total drainage system within the property.
If in the future there is additional outlet construction necessary,
this property will.pay their share of .the assessment for the
�improvement".
Mr. Dante said they have added to this stipulation that such
assessment based on construction required for the Wall Corporation
�`, property only. We felt that any additional construction that might
be necessary for other homes in the area should not be assessed
to the Wall Corporation. Mr. Clark asked if they would agree
to the stipulation t�.at the Wall Corporation be responsible for any
construction that was necessary to maintain or improve the outfall
for this drainage district? Mr. Clark said we certainly are not
gqing to ass�s�� the Wall Corporation for an outfall two miles from
here, but if in a few years from now., the pipes would deteriorate
for thi,s outfall and had �o be rebuilt, the Wa11�Corporation would
be as��ssed as would anyone else in the same situation. The
stipulation should say ' for this particular drainage district'
which would include this property and quite a bit of the R-•1 area
in the.surroun��ing area. Mr. Fitzpatrick said they would only
be assessed for a portion of this improvement which is the p�����,�
�City poli�cy. �
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Mr. Drigans said that by adding ' for this partictilar drainage
district' , I think we can ask that the statement added on to the
Wall Corporation stipulation that such assessment based on construc-
tion required for the Wall Corporation property only, can be removed.
Mrs: Wahlberg said that in the event that the Wa3.1 Corporation
should 5e1�-off the R-1 property prior to the development of the
R-1 area, she questioned the statement that the Wall Corporation
should "Bear full,y the cost of the total drainage system"y as this
stipulation states now. Ntr. Clark said that when the R-1 lots are
put up for sale, the Wall Corporation could add some of these costs
to the sale of this property. Mr. Clark said maybe we should change
this to read "At no cost to the City". Mayor Liebl sai� he agreed
with this statement.
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Mr. Clark said the next item on the stipulations from a year
ago, was traffic. Mr. Fitzpatrick said this item was not on the
copy of the sti�ulations that the Commission had. Mr. Clark
�said he knew it wasn't but he would read�the stipulation anyway.
"Pay the cost of putting an addition��l lane on 7th Street, starting
200 feet South of Mississippi Street to the Mississippi Street right
of way, for a cost not to exceed $3,000." Mr. Clark said he believed
this was deleted because on the original proposal, there would
� have been a lot more traffic on 7th Street. The second item under
traffic has already been done and that was to dedicate the Easterly
half of the 5th Street right of way along the West boundary line
and accept the assessment for the improvement of 5th Street in
accordar:ce with normal City policy."
Mr. Clark said Item 4 had to do with townhouses, which no
longer applies, and Item 5 was on the old apartment complex. Item
6, Planned Developmer:t, states that "They follow all City setback
requirements along the boundary streets of this develop��ent, but
the setb�:ck requirement wi�hin the development along the R-1 and
R-3 zoning lines will be set up on the basis of.a total development
concept. He said he believed this had more to do with the inter-
mixing of townhouses with thE: apartment complex, and certainly the
apartment complex and the R-1 housing will have to meet the present
zoning requirements for setbacks.
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Chairman,Fitzpatrick said as far as traffic is concerned, we
may want to have something in the stipulations for thE: apartment
complex. Mr. Clark said you could have this in the stipulations
for the apartment complex, but the.R-3 property would only have
���ess on 5th Street.
Mr. Clark said the next stipulation is to provide lighted
walkways within the area. Chairman Fitzpatrick said this was �
for the other proposal also, and would not apply now. Mr. Clark
said they might want lighted walkways in the ponding area, or for
the apartment complex, but we don't have a plan for the apartment
complex as yet. Mr. Fitzgatrick said these could be stipulated
on the building permit, rather than the plat.
Mr. Clark said the next stipulation was tc� provide an under-
ground sprinkling system and connect it to the City system with a�
timing device to use water at low demand periods. This was also
made �:t the time there was going to be townhouses and apartments.
The next stipulation was to provide a 5 foot sidewalk along
7th Street, 63rd Avenue, and 5th Street, at least 10 feet from
the street curb. Chairman Fitzpatrick asked Mr. Clark ii this
was a stipulation that would still apply now. Mr. Clark said
�;;,� . he feels that sidewalks are still necessary on these streets, but
� whether the Wall Corporation should have to put them in for the
- R-1 area is another question. We had shown walkways going through
this property on the R-1 lots, but the Plats & Subs Committee
didn't think this was a good idea, so we do.need the sidewalks.
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'�` Mr. Dante said he didn't think the Wall Corporation shou2d
have to put in the sidewalks for the R-1 area. Mr. Drigans asked
about the R-3 area along 5th Street. Mr. Dante said if the City
required a sidewalk in the R-3 area, they would put it in. Mr.
Clark asked if they would put it in for the one R-1 lot that
abutted 5th Street also. He asked Mr. Dante if the Wall Corporation
. would consider petitioning for the sidewalk for 7th Street and
63rd Avenue. This would then be a pending assessment on �the R-1
lots and the people who purchased these lots would be aware of
• this assessment and it could be added to the financing of any -
home being purchased. He said if this assessment was added after
the homes were built, it could be a hardship on the new owners.
Mr. Harris said he agreed with Mr. Dante that the R-1 lots
would not be their responsibility as �far as the sidewalks were
concerned, but the Planning Commission is considering the entire
plat, not just the R-3. Mayor Liebl said he felt the Wall Corporation
should be responsible for the sidewalk on 5th Street.
Mr. Dante said he thought the developer could come to the
City and find out the requirements for developing thi�s property.
Mr. Harris said it was not in the code that every R-1 lot have
a sidewalk, so this would have be a stipulation of the plat.
�, Mr. Clark said we can make a stipulation for the sidewalks
which would not be binding on the Wall Corporation, until they
sign an agreemen�.
Mr. Clark said the next 'stipulation has ta do with�screening,
berms and plantings. He said this had to do with the original
proposal also. Mr. Harris said there should be some screening
between the apartment complex and the adjacent R-1 lots. Mr.
Dante said they had the stipulation to provide good landscaping,
but they have left the screening out. Mr. Liebl said they didn't
want any metal fencing, but there.should be some screening with
plantings, etc. � .
Mr. Clark said this was all the stipulations of the rezoning.
Chairman Fitzpatrick said there were additional stipulations
on the City proposal. Mr. Drigans said they pertained to the present
plan for this property. Mr. Clark said this is from a sheet prepared
on November 13, 1973. Mr. Dante said they did not come out of a
meeting held with the Wall Corporation. Mr. Clark said they came
from the August 8th Planning Commission meeting, at the time you
were getting approval of the townhouses.
Mr. Dante said he thought they were a smattering of everything
because at that time they were not discussing a 130 unit apartment
�� building. Nlr. Clark agreed.
� Chairman Fitzpatrick said we could go through these stipulations
and see which ones stilT apply.
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Mr. Fitzpatrick said No. 3 states it would allow a 22 to 3
story apartment building having 130 units, etc., which is part
of our problem because it hasn t been determined how many units
will be allowed. Mr. Harris said that maybe we should discuss
what type of apartment complex this will be and how many stories
it will have. Mr. Dante said this would be determined by how
many units they were allowed to have. Mr. Harris asked if there
were 180 units, what kind of a building would it be. Mr. Dante
said it would be a 3 story building with elevators. �•
Mr. Dante said he thought this would be handled at the
Building Standards meeting. Mr. Harris said this was a subcommittee
of the Planning Commission, so they could ask for this information.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said the Commission could ask for this information,
but it wouldn't have anything to do with approving the plat.
Mr. Dante said the question is whether the number of units
will support the _ amenities. Economics will dictate what goes
into this apartment complex. .
� Mr�. Drigans said they had agreed to these things when they
wanted to have 155 townhouse units. Mr. Dante said it was the
recreational facilities the City wanted that blew us out of the
ball park on that proposal.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said the first stipulation would be left
out because the�number of units hadn't been determined. He�
said the second stipulation was to keep the apartment building
within the R-3 zoned area. Mr. Drigans said this included the
apartment building, garages and outside parking. Mr. Dante agreed.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said the next $tipulation was to provide
about 80 garage stalls which is a little over 1/3 of the total
needed parking stalls. Mr..Clark said he would su
the number of stalls and just say 1/3 of the totalgneededhebecausee
we don't know what 1�3 will be.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said the next item was for providing recreational.
facilities in the building, including indoor swimmin
party room and exercise room. Mr. Drigans said the differenceuin�
the Wall stipulations is that they just say swimming pool and all
this is at the discretion of the Wall Corporation. Mr. Fitzpatrick
asked Mr. Dante just where the discretion came in, as to what kind,
or what. Mr. D<<nte said it is the same as he stated before. If
the number of units will economically•support all the amenities
here, they would be put in. We don't know if we want an indoor or
outdoor swimming pool, or maybe just a whirlpool bath. Mr. Fitzpatrick
said we can decide on the wording of this stipulation at the time
we make our motion.
_ Mr. Fitzpatrick said the next stipulation was for keeping all the
ponding and drainage facilities outside the
lots. The upkeep and maintenance of these areas�are toabeepartsofential
the apartment complex. Mr. Dante said.they have the same stipulaticn
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Mr. Clark said he would suggest that the ponding be at the
5�0 year flood�level. Mr. Drigans said he thought this would
depend upon the grading of the R-1 lots. Mr. Clark said this
was probably the intent of the Wali Corporation anyway, but
it wouldn't hurt to stipulate what pond we are talking about.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said the next item was that the outdoor
recreational facilities will be two tennis courts, tot lot, �
picnic facilities, skating area, walking paths with liyhts, water
circulation system in ponds with fountain. Mr. Fitzpatrick
said that many of these apply to the townhouse plan, but his
.concern at this time is that we are talking about an area that
we are including as open area for density purposes in the R-3 �
area, and it seems to me we have to take into consideration that
� there should be some facilities provided fcr the R-1 area. To
say that there is no need for a tot lot for the apartment complex
because you aren't going to rent to people with children does
not mean that a tot lot wouldn't be ne•eded for the R-l.area. We
are talking here about platting the entire block. We have an
ordinance that l0a of any residential development should be set
aside for recreational purposes, so maybe just what form this
stipulation should take should be discussed. The Wall Corporation
�"�, stipulation just said the outdoor recreational faciliti�s will
be.at the discretion of the Wall Corporation. I am not so concerned
about the specific facilities, as I am in having an area. set
� aside for this purpose. Mr. Fitzpatrick said if we are talking
about preserving that grove of trees, we�would have the area. Mr.
Dante said this area is 55,000 square feet. Mr. Clark said that
the R-1 lots were approximately 10,000 square feet, so 23 lots
would be about 230,000 square feet and 10% of that is 23,000 square
feet, which is smaller than the la�d occupied by the grove of tr�es.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said then there is no big problem as far as area
is concerned.
Mr. Harris said he had a question on how all these recreational
facilities could be provided and still preserve the heavy grove of
trees in the same area. Mr. Clark said he didn't know if this
was taken into consideration wheri the plan drawn by the City was made.
There would have to be trees taken out for the tennis courts. There
would also have to be some grading done, because where the tennis
courts .would be lacated, .it is 'not Ievel.
Chairman Fitzpatrick asked i� there were specifics the Planning
Commission would want to discuss with Mr. Dante on these stipulations.
. Mr. Clark said it would come back again to the amount of units
that were going to be approved for the R-3. He questioned if 180
r`� � units were put in the R-3, where the parking would be. Even for
,� 130 units, the building area is pretty well filled up with the
building and the parking lots. He said he would concede that
parking could be put in the R-1 ponding area. The requirement
is for�two stalls for.a two bedroom unit. Mr. Fitzpatrick said this
would be one of the reasons for not having 180 units if the required
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� parking could not fit into the R-3 area. Mr. Clark said he couldn't
say it wouldn't fit when he hasn't seen a plan. .
Mr. Dante said there would be more than enough land in the R-3.
We have recreational facilitiES and a 180 unit apartment building
on 4 acres by Lake Calhoun. The area in the R-3 here is 82 acres.
Mr. Clark said 4 acres is 174,000 square feet and you have 228,000
square feet in the R-3 area here. Mr. Clark asked how many parking
stalls tr�ey provide for this 180 unit apartment.
Mr."Dante said there were 220 parking stalls. Mr. Clark �
asked how many bedrooms there were in this complex. Mr. Clark
said if they aver.aged out to two bedroom units, it would require
360 parking stalls in Fridley. Mr. Dante said these were efficiency
apartment, one, two and three bedrooms, and it didn't average out
to two stalls per apartment. Mr. Clark said he thought they would
need about 270 stall here then, and you do have more room here,
but without seeing a plan I can't commend on whether it would fit
on this property or not. He said.he didn't expect the Wall Cor-
poration to draw up a plan until they knew how many units they .
could have. Mr. Fitzpatrick said we just want to make it clear
to'everyone that we don't want encroachment on the R-1 area.
Mr. Drigans said Mr. Dante has already agreed to keep the
buildir,g and all the garages and parking stalls on the R-3 property.
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Mr. Fitzpatrick said the outdoor recreational facilities will
, be in the R-1 area. Ae said the next stipulation was if possible,
preserve the heav� grove of trees in the northerly area of the
property, and develop a picnic area and tot lot in this�location.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said this is related to the previous stipulation
and we have discussed it. �
Mr. Drigans said this is not what the Wall Corporation has
in their stipulation.
Mr. nante said he would like to back up a little. He said the
plan prese�tec�o the Board of Appeals was for 130 to 135 apartment
units and 28 residential lots. The variance was from 2500 square
feet per unit to 1906 square feet per unit.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said the plan we are considering is for 23
. residential lots. .
Mr. Dante said this was an alternate plan suggested by the
Board of Appeals. There will be 130,000 square feet in the unplatted
R-1 and dividing it by 2500 square feet you come up with �2 units,
and adding this to the 130 allowed with the variance, you come up
with 182 units.
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Mr. Fitzpatrick said you are going to need the area where you
had the additional lots, for density so there should be no problem
in preserving the trees.
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November 28, 1973 Page 16
Mr. Fitzpatr�ck said the next item is for providing a mFtal
fence, if�necessary, to fence off the area which will be part of
the apartment complex, which we have already had some discussion
on. We talked about not having a metal fence,'but somF screening
should be provided between the apartment complex and the adjoining
R-1 lots. Mr. Drigans said this should be part of the Building
Standards stipulations.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said the next item was for proper water
circulation and upkeep of the ponding area with.the adequate.
over.flow storage area to meet the drainage requirements.
Mr. Clark said in making your motion, the things you feel
strongly about could be recommendations, and the things you
would just like to see'included in the plat, you could just
ask that these things be encouraged, especially some of the
things the Wall Corporation is rather touchy about. The Council
can then do as they wish, and there will be another agreement
drawn up for this proposal. ,
� Mr. Fitzpatrick said the reason the members of the Board
of Appeals are present is because they have before them a request
for a variance on the density of the R-3 property. �
� Mr. Drigans said the reason for the joint meeting is because
both the Commission and the Board felt we had to look at the
entire plat before we could determine what our recommendation
should be. He said Mr. Clark had explained and given all� the
members copies of how the combination of the R-3 property and
the unplatted R-1 property would allow a density of 144 units
if the property had been al� zoned R-3. If you take out the
10% park dedication for park land, we are down to.135 units.
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Mr. Harris asked Mr. CTark what was the lowest square
footage requirement we had allowed before on apartment complexes
that had over 90 units. Mr. Clark said it was on the 5 8ands
complex of 295 units where a variance was granted�from 2,500
square feet per unit to 2,374. He said this variance was
rationalized because�of the excessive right of way that was
dedicated for East River Road and this property was all zoned R-3.
MOTION by Harris, seconded by B1air; that the Planning Commission
close .the.Public Hearing on the proposed preliminarg plat, P.S.
#73-09, by the Wa11 Corporation. Upon a voice vote, aZl voting �
aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Harris said the density for the apartment complex is the
overriding factor in the consideration of this plat because so
many of the�stipulations depend on the the number of units that
will be allowed. Mr. Fitzpatrick said he felt that when we were
going through the stipulations that if the density figure was now
agreeable to the Wall'Corporation, it didn't.matter where we put
the lights or the sidewalk.
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November 28, 1973 Page 17
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Mr. Har.ris asked Mr. Drigans if they had made any mation at
all on the density the Wall Corporation would be allowed.
Mr. Drigans said the� hadn't and had continued this request
until tr.is ev.ening. He said the plat being presented by Mr. Dante
was not the plat he had at tr�e Board of Appeals meeting, but was
a sugge:ted alternative we asked for.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said it was his understanding that the plat
the Planning Commission was making their recommFndations on was
the plan being presented this evening.
Mr. Drigans said th9.s was not the plan the Board of Appeals
'tabled their motion on.
Mr. Plemel said the way the variance request reads, I would
say we would have to turn it down, because it specifically states
it is for 130 �anits and the density was from 2,500 square feet
per unit to 1,906 square feet. If we recommend something;different,
the variance request will be changed. �He said his sympathies lie
with the developer on_this to make the property pay off as much
as it can. .
�,�,, Mrs. Wahlberg said the reason this was tabled was because
the City prepared the figures for the variance request, and Mr.
Dante was not•ready to accept these figures.
Mr. Dante said it was mentioned at the last Planning Commission
meeting that if the extra lots made by the cul-de-sac were taken
out of the plat, that perhaps more density could be allowed in the
R-3 area.
Mrs. Wahlberg said in using'all the R-3 land and all the un-
platted R-1 land and using a density of 1950 square feet per unit
on all this property, they could have 184 units in the R-3 area.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said the 1950 figures comes from a variance
request for the R-3 property only, and it seems that our thinking
is changing to figure the density on the combined R-3 and unplatted
R-1 together, but whether we would want to increase the density by
this much has to be deter.mined.
Mr. Clark said the Board of Appeals can make any recommendation
they want, but I question whether.the Council could approve a
variance of more than 1,906 on the R-3 property�without sending
out notices again. .
Mr. Clark said you would have to arrive at a rationale that
� � you were going to use to arrive at allowing this density.
-_� Mrs. Wahlberg said at�the time they were considering this
variance rec_,uest, it seemed like there were too many gray areas,
so that it was impossible to make a determination on what area we
were to use.
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Mr. Lindblad s.aid he thought we had to use the unplatted R-1
in our consideration because it is not going to be used for any
other purpose but to belong with�the apartment complex.
Mr. Harris said there had been agreement on 155 townhouses
on this property and with the present proposal for 130 apartment
units and 23 residential lots, we have about the same density as
the townhouse proposal.
Mr.�Drigans said on that pr.oposal the Council allowed more '
density than the Board of Appeals had recommended.
Mr. Harris said if we are going to allow 180 ap«rtment units
and 23 residential lots this will be 203 units on this property
and what is that going to do to the traffic patterns when this area
had heavy traffic now.
Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark how much vacant R-3 property was
left in the City. Mr. Clark said there is some property that would
probab�y be best used for R-3 that hasn�'t been rezone.d, but of the
zoned R-3 there isn't too much left.
Mr. Harris said if we allow too high a density on this property,
we could be setting a prece�enee that we wouldn't want.
Mr. Harris said this is why I think our recommendation should
be based on our present zoning ordinance giving them credit for
the vacant R-1. �
Mrs. Wahlberg said the present figure for the R-3 property
does not include the R-3 property included in the R-1 platted lots.
Mr. Clark said this was correct.
Mr. Drigans said he still felt that when the 155 townhouse
units were approved for. this site, that was the density this
propert� could have.' •
Mr.. Dante said the original proposal was for a 108 unit
apartment and 61 townhouses which would be 169 units. He said
comparing the different proposals as to the number of units
was like camparing apples and oranges. He said there would be
a lot more profit in 155 townhouses than a 130 unit apartment
building and 2.3 residential lots. •
Mr. Drigans said he liked the concept of 130 apartment units
with 23 residential lots with no cul-de-sac road. Mr. Dante
said they would eliminate the cul-de-sac road and put 180 units
on the R-3 property.
� Mr. Fitzpatrick said it seems like the City is faced with the
� question of what density it can bear on this property. Mr. Clark
has reminded us that we should not vary too far from the ordinance
requirements which we have made other builders in the City adhere to.
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Novem.ber 2$, 1973 Page 19
MOTION by Blair, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning
Commission recommend approval of proposed preZiminary p1at, P.S.
#73-09, by the Wa1J Corporation as presented and a11ow a density
of 2,300 square feet per unit on the R-3 proper�ty and include the
vacant R-Z property, to aZlow 156 apartment units on the R-3 property.
Mr. Clark said this motion would have to come from the Board
of Appeals as it their function to recommend on the density. The
Planning Commission would make the motion,on the plat.
No vote was taken.
Mr. Clark asked�Mr. Dante if he believed they could break
ground before January l, 1974. Mr. Dante said they could if they
could build 180 units because they already have the plans for
this size complex. It would just be a matter of bringing in the
elevations.
Mr. Clark asked about getting financing that soon. Mr. Dante
said this plan is a known quanity because they have already con-
�tructed a building like this with success.
Chairman Fitzpatrick said the Planning Commission would recess
and let the Board of Appeals make their recommendatian.
MOTION by Plemel, seconded by Wah.Zberg, to take off the table
the request fo�r a,variance of Section 45.073, lA, Fridley City Code,
to reduce the area requirement for apartment units from 2,500 square
feet per unit to .Z906.08 square feet per unit, to a11ow construction
of a 130 units apartment complex, by the Wa11 Corporation. Upon a
voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
iKr. Drigans said this plat.was not�the plat they had tabled tr�e
motion on. This is an alternate plan.
Mr. Clark marked the plat presented tonight as Exhibit A, dated
November 28, 1973, so it could be determined what�plan the Board of
Appeals and the Planning Commission based their recommendations upon.
Mr. Plemel said because of the joint meeting, it has evolved �
that the unplatted R-1 may be used along with the R-3, in considering
the density of the apartment complex so I think we have to deny the
original request.
Mr. Drigans asked Mr. Clark if a denial of this request would
mean that the Wall Corporation couldn't make a similar request for
six months. Mr. Clark said he wasn't sure if this held true on a
variance request, but to make sure, they shouldn't deny the request.
They could make a different recommendation and let the Council and
i',, • the City Attorney decide fhe legal aspects.
' Mr. Drigans said he was thinking about Mr. Clark's statement
that the City attorney could support approximately 130 units using
. the R-3 and the unplatted R-1 so.the density would be 2,500 square
feet per unit, which is the code requiremertt if this property was
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November 28, 1973 Page 20
all zoned R-3, and t�at he would be hard presse� to support any
additional uriits on this property, without rezoning.
Mr. Plemel said if we recommend 156 units we are down to 1400
or 1500 square feet per unit on the R-3, and I don't see how we
can recommend that.
Mr. Drigans said we are legally bound to put the units on
the R-3 area, and that's the only place we can put them.
Mr. Clark said you can rationalize how you arrived at the
number of.units you are recommending with the unplatted R-1 property.
Mrs. Wahlberg said the recommendation that Mr. Blair gave
us said we could use the vacant R-1 in our consideration for the
density.
Mr. Drigans said the variance can only be based on the R-3
property, so the more units we recommend, the higher density we
are recommending regardless of how much property we are �nc7_udi�g
in•our �consideration. •
Mr. Clark said to let the Council and City Attorney decide
on the legality of what you recommend and when you determine the
^ number of units you want to allow on this property and your rationale
for your recommendation, let them decide on how this is to be
handled. If it has to come back to the Board of Appeals, it has
' to come back.
Mrs. Wahlberg said she thought the first thing,they should do
is determine hovr many units they wanted to recommend. She �aid if
we only a11ow ].30 units and we use the R-3 area plus the vac«nt
R-1, we will be exceeding the code of 2,500 square feet per unit.
I think we should use 2,500 square feet per unit on all this
property that is not platted into R-1 lots and allow 144 units. This
is based on the unplatted R-1 on Exhibit A, dated November 28, 1973.
Mr. Clark said if you just used the zoned R-3 property, the
Wall Corporation could only have 92 units.
Mr. Plemel said there is a lot of R-1 property lying in limbo
which we have to consider. He said he would like to go along with
156 units as a compromise between 130 units and 180 units.
Mr. Drigans said he preferred 144 units, so it would be at the
code requirement of 2,500 square feet per unit, if this property
was all zoned R-3, and I think the City Attorney could defend this
figure.
� Mr. Drigans said he wanted it called to the Council's attention
that this would be in excess of the original variance request and
'- �they should determine if this required re-notification.
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November 28, 1973 Page 21
MOTION by Wahlberg, seconded by PZemel, that the Board of Appeals,
in Zieu of the variance request to reduce the area requiremen� for
apartment units�from 2,500 squ�.re feet per unit to 1,906.08 square
feet per unit, to a11ow the construction of a 130 unit apartment
complex, per Fridley City Code, Section 45.07s", ZA, recommend that
the City Council consider that the Wall Corporation be aZlowed the:
construction of a Z44 unit apartment complex using a density of
2,500 sqvare feet per unit, using the buildable R-3 property and
a11 the unplatted vacant R-1 propert� in this consideration, based
on Exhibit A, dated �November 28, 1973, and that the entire apartment
complex and'parking be located on the property zoned R-3. Upon a
voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
The Planning Commission returned and Mr. Drigans told the
Commission what recommendation the Board of Appea�s had made to
the City Council.
MOTION by B1air, seconded by Lindblad, that the PZanning
Comm�.ssion recommend to Council approv.al of the. propos.ed preliminar.y
plat, P.S. #73-09, by tlie Wa11 Corporation, being a replat of the
East Ha1f of the Northwest Quarter of the Southwest Quarter of
the Southwest Quarter of Section 14, T-30, R-24, City of Fridley,
County or Anoka, Minnesota, with exception: being based on Exhibit
A, dated November 28, 1973, with the following stipu2ations:
.I. Provide a drainage pond on the said property as shown
on t�e approved final plan which would receive the drainage
from the adjaining properties and dra.in the said property.
The surface water will be stored in the pond during the
rain and will be 1et through with an overflow into the
existing storm sewer at Bennett and 7th Street slowly after
the rain storm subsides•. The location of the permanent.
portion of the pond would not be any closer t1-�an 100 feet
from an� road right of way lines. The design of the
perm.anent portion of this�pond would be based on the 5
year frequency (8.2 acre feet) with the temporary expansion
of the pond to be designed for 50 year frequency (12.0 acre
feet: and the Iimits of the t�mporary ponding around the
time of the rain could extend in to the R-1 platted 1ots.
The water in the permanent pond would be pur►ped up to a�
fountain for aeration purposes to eliminate the stagnation
. affect of the water in the permanent pond. The bottom
and the shoreline of the pond wi1Z be such that it is as
maintenance free as practical and the whole sh�rqline and
the grounds around the ponding area wi11 be landscaped.
The design of the complete drainage and storm sewer syste'm
in this property sha11 be ap.proved by the City Enginee�ing
Department and storm sewer piping constructec? to the City's
specifications. City agrees the watershed area for this
property sha11 not be increased.
2. Provide a drainage easement to the City of Fridley for the
- ponding area.which wi11 be under water considering a 50
year design frequency including the storm sewer'• inlet
and outZet.
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November 28, 1973 Page 22
3.C�UNCIL PLEASE NOTE: PLANNING COMMISSION REQUESTS THAT
THIS STIPULATION BE REWRITTEIV.
Waive any liability against the City for ponding the water
on this property and drop any pending lawsuits against the
City.
4. 5et the Zowest flood elevation of the walkout type home
at Zeast 3 feet higher than the 50 year fZood line. The
.iowest floor eZevation of a non-waZkout type home wi11 be•
no more than 18" into the 50 year flood line with a grade
elevation at least 3 feet higher than the 50 year flood
line. The 3owest floor elevation for the apartment
building wi11 be no lower than 3 foot into the 50 year
flood line with floodproof construction up to the 50
year flood. Rest of the stucture must be water-resistant
construction.
5. At no cost to the City the total drainage system within
the entire property wi11 be developed. If in the future
there is additional outlet construction necessary for this
drainage district this property wi11 pay their share of
the assessment for the improvement. �
n 6. Keep the apartment building including garages and parking
with.in the R-3 zoned area.
7. Provide garage stalZs for I/3 of the total needed parking
stalls.
8. Encourage recreation facilities in the apartment buildinc
to include indoor swimming pool, sauna, party room and
exercise room. - -
9. Keep a11 the 50 year 1evel pondinq and drainage facilities
outside t.he proposed platted residentiaZ 1ots. The upkeep
and maintenance of theseareas to be part�of the apartment
complex.
10. Encourage outdoor recreationa.Z facilities such as two tennis
courts, tot 1ot, picnic facilities, skating area, walking
paths with lights.
.I1. Encourage preserving the heavy grove of trees in the north�-
erly area of the property, and encourage developing a picnic
area and tot lot in this location. •
12. Required areas planned for pf�b.Zic Iand uses, including
schools, parks, playgrounds and other public purposes
� , sha11 be offered•for dedic.ation o'r shaZl be ---
reserved for fut:ure public acquisition. Should such pZanned
public areas be more than .i0 percent of the gross area of
the Zand to be subdivided, IO percent of the area sub-
� divided sha1l be offered to dedication and the remainder
. reserved for a period of two years durir.g which time
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the City or other public body may buy such land. Should
planned public areas be Zess than 10 per cent of the gross
area in the purposed subdivision, a cash payment equivalent
to the difference in land value sha11 be paid into the park
fund.
13. The Wa1.Z Corporation to install the sidewalk on 5fh Street
for the R-3 property and R-1 Iot adjoining this property
an� petition the City for sidewalk for the ba.Zance of
5th Street, 7th Street and 63rd Avenue.
14. The R-3 property and the unplatted R-1 property alI be
platted as one Iot. .
Upon a voice vote, aZ1 voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously. .
Chairman Fitzpatrick adjou�ned the meeting at 1c20 A.M.
Respectfully submittecl,
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Dorothy Ev son, 5ecretary