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PL 06/05/1974 - 7489CITY OF I�RIDLEY �1 � I� G F N T) I� PL�NNING COI•`i��1ISSI0N Ni.L:ETING JUN� 5, 1974 ./1 �� CALL `I'O ORllER : ROI,L CALL : � APPROV� P'LII�I�NING CO�;i',iI�=S10N MINU;'�S: I�1115' 22, 1974 FrCETV� BOIIRD Ul� AI'YL�I�LS SUBCOr��`✓ITTEF' MTNU�rrs : A'Il1Y 2B, :L97� � . 8:00 P.M. PI�GE S 1 - 22 23 - 28 R�CLTVL', BUILDIN.C, STI�I�?DAP.DS-DESIGi�1 COI�TROL SUL'CONn1ITTEE 29 - 36 MIi�U`l'ES : I�L?�Y 2u, 19 ; 4 1. PUI3LTC I7PARING: COiVSIDERATION OF ISP�SL'NDING CHI!PTFR 37 - 38 ?05, SN'C`I`I:G�� ?_05.051,Y1'ARI�C�;'r�PH 2, i�, I3CCEtiSOI2Y USES , GL' �.I'i1L CI`1'Y CODE C�F `I'.ir C� T1 G�' 1?RIDLL�Y 2. CONTIT�TUI�;D : �'UBi.�IC HFARTNG : RE�UES'.?' FOR A SP� C7�AL 39 - 4 2 tISF PI.I:I•iIT, SP ;; %4-10, b_y ti�'. RED STTa�3G: P�r Frid"ley . • City Co�ie, �Sect�_on 2U5oOJJ_r 3, N, to al�o��a trailers, c�mpers, mobii.e homes, boats, machinery, sp�ri:.ing �C�Ul�ItlGllt and like en-L-erprises having its merr.hand.ise in the opcn and not under ��h� cover of display salesroom, to be located ox� Lots 1 and 2, Bloc}� l, C. D. Hu�chinson Add�-tion, l_ocated at 7451 Last River ' N.E. 3. RENE�ti7��T, OP' SPrCIAL LTSE PERi�S_T_T, SP #73-03, 331' '43 - 44 KEI`I'Ii S. Si•�I,NSON �t�D DI?,Ivi�:C:, D. SZ�KI:a.LAI-IT�: To . coiitinu�.� a servi��c� st��1_OI7 dI�1C� permit the addi�Lion of rental c��: local and on.c-��ay trucl: and trail.ers, as ��er i'ridley Ci_ty Code, 5��ctio� 205,.101, Pa-tac�raph B, 3, F.., l, to b� Iacated on t.he EasL 119.01 feet of Lots 2�-30, Black 4, Hyde Park �ddition, the s�me beinc� a Te�aco Statio�i at 607I University Avenue N.L. 4. V1�C11'PTON RTC>UI:ST, S�'1i1 �T74-�1, B�' FLORTNCF E. SL�IINSON:�}5 _(��-4g) Vac��t.c i�liat pari: of IiugU Si�reei� dedi_cai:ed in- the Plat oi Swanson's Tcrrace, lying Tast�rly of the South�rly extension of the West 13.ne of Lots 1 and 3, IIlock 1, � Scaanson' s Terra.r,e . 5. RE�U1?.ST I�OR A LO'T' SI�LIT, I,.S. �74-1�., BY I'LOR�NCE E. 46 - 4'9 SW�NSUN: P.cloc�z�'te the division linc betwcen ]�ats 3 anci �, 131or.k l, S��anson's �I'errace, to bc loc�ted parallcl �.o and f30 i�et Sout.h o� the Sou�:li linc of LotS ]. and `l, I31ock 1, Swznsc�ii's Ter�:ace. � ' , Planning Commission Aqenda June 5, 1974 Page 2 � � � � PAGES ` 6'. MFMO I'OR JEP.ROLD BOAP.DMAN . ON 70NTNG CFiANGE FOR 50 - 51 CHE`1SES ISL'�:ID ' ' 7. INFORT��TION FOP, HYDT' P?�P�K STUDY Will be send under_ separate covc�r 8. ARTICLE FROM PUBLIC MANAGEMENT MAGAZINE 1970 52 - 55 FROP�I JERROLD BOARDMAN : AESTHETIC POLLUTION . �.. 9. INFORMATION FROM JAMES LANGENFELD FOR THE PLANNING CONIDZISSION:. . . Will be sent under separate cover '. . . � � � � 4� -. � ,� / �h ,� . � ��I y�� . � �, � . � . � �� 5 1 �� . � �� ,,y� -i � � �7 �� _ � � �� ' g �' . J1'''� � �� d CITY OF FRIDLEY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MAY 22, 1974 PAGE 1 � CALL TO_QRDER: Chairman Fitzpatrick called the meeting to order at 8:05 P.M. ROLL CALL: Memuers Present: Fitzpatrick,Harris, Lindblad, Drigans Members Absent: Blair Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, Planning Assistant APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: MAY 8, 1974 MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by Drigans, that the Planning Commission approve the minutes of the May 8, 1974 meeting as written. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: MAY 9, 1974 Mr. Lindblad said there was discussion at the Council meeting on the proposal by the State of Minnesota. � Mr. Harris said they were going to ask the State of I�Zinnesota to find an alternate location for the salt storage warehouse. It . was�felt that �3rooklyn Park got a picnic area, etc., and Fridley got a salt storage warehouse and we would like a picnic area also. MOTION by Lindblad, secorided by Harris, that the Planninq Commission receive the Building Standards-Design Control Subcommittee minutes of their meeting of May 9, 1974. Upon a vaice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: MAY 14, 1974 MOTION �ay D:rig�ns, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission receive the Board of Appeals Subcommittee minutes of their May 14, 1974 meeting. Upon a voice vote, a.Z1 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Drigans said that on page 32 of the agenda (page 7 of these minutes) he had�listed some criteria to be considered on special use permits and variances for billboards. He said he would like this r.riteria discussed as an agenda item, after the regular agenda items have been handled. RECEIVE PLATS & SUBDIVISIONS-STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: MAY 15, 19�4 � MOTION by Harris,:s�conded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission receive thr> P1ats & Sabdivisions-Streets & Utilities minutes of the May 15, 1974 r�° ��ting. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried vnanimr��s.ty. Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page 2 l. CUNTINUED: Pt1BLTC HEARING: REZONING REQUEST, ZOA #74-01, � . �ENNING NELSON CONSTRUCTION COMPANY: To rezone Lots 13, 14, 15 and 16, Block 2, Riverview Manor, from R-1 (single family dwelling areas) to R-3 (general multiple family dwelling areas) to allow construction on an apartment complex to be located South of 71st Way and West of East River Roa�. Public Hearing open. No one was present to represent the petitioner. Chairman Fitzpatrick said this item was continued to allow the petitioner to work with the neighbors and school board on a proposal that woula be acceptable to them. We also asked that there be a check made with the County to see if they.needed any add'itional right of way for East River Road. We have a letter in our agenda from the Council stating that an add1.tional "17 feet wil� be needed for this right of way from Lot 16. Mr. Boardman said this needed additional right of way will not make an appreciable difference in this lot as far as it being a build- able lot. It would still be large enough for a double bungalow or a dup lex . Mr. Boardman said Mr. Darrel Clark has talked to the petitioner today and he did say he was coming to the meeting with a proposal, but �� he didn'.t say what that proposal might be. Mr. Harris.said the additional right of way needed for.East River Road should be obtained from Lot 16 before it is developed. MOTION by Harris, seconded by Drigans, that �bhe Planning Commission continue the Public Hearing on the rezoning request, ZOA #74-01, by Henning Nelson Construction Company until the peti�ioner arrives at the meeting. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. At 9:00 P:�M., Mr. Timothy 0'Neill, 158 71st Way N.E., said he thought Mr. Reinertson had been at enough meetings of the Planning Commission so he should know what time he should be here when Yie was first on the agenda. He asked the Planning Commission how long they were going to wait for the petitioner befoxe they took action on this request. He said the neighbors had all signed the petition against any rezoning of these lots and this was the fourth time they have come to a meeting on this same request. The neighbors felt that a decision should be made on this request at this meeting. MOT.ION by Lindblad that the Planning Commission consider this request at this time. The motion died �or lack of a second. Mr. Drigans said he would like to find out� if Mr. Reinertson met �• with the school board. Mrs. O'Neill said he agreed to meet with the neighbors and no one present has had any meeting with him. She said the school board sent a letter stating they were opposed to the original proposal, so if they have agreed to a new proposal, it was safe to �� /'1 rIt � Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Paqe 3 assume that they would have notified the Planning Commission that they had agreed to something different. Mr. Harris said that if the Planning Commission should take a negative action on this request he would like the petitione'r to �be present to hear -the reasons. Mr. Lindblad said we have been continuing this request since February. He said he thought the neighbors were entitled to get a decision on this tonight. Mrs. O'Neill asked if they were going to give the petitioner an opportunity to appear all evening. This was a long agenda and she didn't think it was fair to keep the neighbors here waiting. As far as she was concerned, the petitioner hasn't done any of the things he had agreed upon at the last meeting. MOTION by Lindb.Zad, seconded b� Harris, that the Planning Commission set a time Iimit of 9:30 P,M, to consider this item whether the petition- er appeared or not. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, fhe motion carried unanimously. At 9:30 P.M. Chairman Fitzpatrick said the petitioner has not �p�?�arst.d but we have agreed that we would make a decision on this rezoning request, ZOA #74-01, by Henning Nelson Construction Company whether the petitioner appeared or not, at this time. He said the Planning Commission has a petition from the neighbors against any rezaning of this property. We have a letter from the school board in opposition to any increase in density of this property. Mr. Drigans said the petitioner has not come forwa�d with any figures to show that it is economically unfeasible to build R-1 housing in this area. We have a report from the administration showing the number of homes that have been construction along and on East River Road during the past year. MOTION by Harris, seconded by L.zndblad, that the Planning Commissior close the Public Hearing on the rezoninq request, ZOA #74-01, b� Henning I�elson Construction Company. Upon a voice vote, a1.I voting aye, the motion carried urzanimously. MOTION by Harris, seconded by Drigans, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council denial of the rezoning request, ZOA #74-01, by Nenning Nelson Construction Company, to rezone Lots 13, 14, 15 and 16, B1ock 2, Riverview Manor, from R-1 (single farnily dwelling areas) to R-3 (general multiple fami.Zy dweZling areas) to a.Z1ow construction of an apartment complex to be located South of 71st Way and West of East River Road, for the following reasans: 1. This is spot rezoning, which is against City po.Zicy. � 3. A need has not been shown that it wouZd be economically unfeasible.to buiZd single family homes in this area. Opposition from SchooZ District #14 on higher density�in this area. � �; �_:� Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page 4 4. Petition from the neighbors opposing any rezoning of this i"� • property. 5. We do not.be.Iieve that R-3 zoning is compatibZe with the surrounding area. 6. The petitioner was requested to work with the school board and the surrounding neighbors on a more suitab.Ze p.Zan, and this was not done. Mr. Drigans said he thought the Council should be aware that � we have had three meetings with the petitioner present. This is the fourth meeting and the petitioner was not here. Although this was the first item on the agenda, we did not take action until 9:30 P.M., giving the petitioner every opportunity to attend this meeting. UPON A VOICE vote, a11 voting aye, the motion.carried unanimously. 2. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT,.P.S. #.74-03, JIM LUND ESTATES, BY JIM LUND: Being a replat of Lo.t 30 and the � North H�lf of Lot 31, Auditor's Subdivision No. 129 located �� - between Onondaga Street and 73rd Avenue N.E. Mr. Jim Lund was present. MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning � Commission waive the reading of the Pub.Zic Hearing notice on a preliminary p1at,�P..S. #74-03, Jim Lund Estates, b� Jim Lund. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. l�ir. Harris said this item had been handled by the Plats & Sub- divisions-Streets � Utilities Subcommittee at their May 15th meeting and was approved with eight stipulations. He said he thought the best way to consider this plat was to go through�.these stipulations. The first stipuation �aas to negotiate for driveway access with the owner of Lot 28, Auditor's Subdivision No. 129. This has to da with a garage on this lot where the garage door faces this plat. On the plat presented tonight, Mr. Lund has made an Outlot A of 6 feet. Mr. Lund said he planned to deed this outlot to the owners of Lot 28. Mr. Don Hanson, the owner of Lot 2$, said this was the first time he has seen this proposal of having 6 feet deeded to him, so he would like a little time to think about it. Mr. Drigans asked how far this garage was from the lot line of Lot 28. Mr. Lund said it was 21 feet, and with the 6 f�ot outlot it wauld give Mr. Hanson 27 feet for garage access. This would line up with the present curb cut for this driveway. . Mr. Harris said the second stipulation was to move the center of � the cul-de-sac to the East boundary of Lot �, Block l, and Lat l, Block 3. He said Lot 4 is� now Lot 9, but the cul=de-sac is located where we stipulated it should be. /^� Planning Commission I�eeting - May 22, 19-74 - Page 5 The third stipulation is to provide underground utilities. Mr. Lund said he had contacted Northern States Power Company and they told him the fee policy has changed. He said there used to be a flat rate on this, but now they will charge the property owner $2.00 per month, for life, for underesround utilities. Mr. Harris said N.S.P. has been making a lot of noise about teaching children to stay away from overhead lines, and other dangers from these lines, and this new policy would not encourage underground utilities. He said he thought a letter should be sent to the Public Service Commission on this fee change. . Mr. Lund said the only time underground lines were dangerous was when you had to excavate and you might hit a hot line, but once the area was developed, underground lines were much safer for both children and adults. Chairman Fit�zpatrick said the Planning Commission will still make underground utilities a stipulation and Council can make their own decision. Mr. Harris said the fourth stipulation was that the developer provide one tree per lot, 2 inches in diamet�r, exc��.t:=where th�re.is already a tree on the lot. Mr. Lindblad aske3 if this tree was in � addition to a boulevard tree. Mr. Harris said the maker of this motion did not clari.fy if this was to be a boulevard tree or one inside the property line, but he thought he meant this tree should be inside the property line. Mr. Fitzpatrick said we can make our own stipulation on this item. Mr. Lindblad said he thought this tree should � be in addition to the boulevard tree. Mr. Harris said that in light of recent developments in the City, it would be better to have this tree � inside the property line than in the public right of way. Mr. Fitz- patrick said it would seem that our recommendation would be to have two trees, one in -the boulevard and one located at the owner's discretio Mr. Harris said the fifth stipulation was to eliminate the half street going to the East on 74th Avenue (732 Avenue) and delay the construction of this street until Lot 32 is developed with an agreement from the developer that Lot 5 and 6 will be red tagged until this time. Mr. Boardman �xplained that on the plat presented to the Plats & Subdivisions-Streets & Utilities Subcommittee these two lots would have been land-locked because they only had half street right of way. Mr. Lund has now changed his road pattern so all the lots have street. access on the plat now. Mr. Boardman said that the importance of acquiring the remaining right of way so that 732 Avenue could be built right the first time should be stressed. The situation as laid out in the plat will require a good deal of temporary road construction which will burden the property owners with additional assessments when the road is relocated. This additional cost could amount to as much as $11.00 per foat as compared to an approximate $3.50 per foot for construction at this time. Mr. Harris said Mr. Lund has contacted these people about getting the additional right of way and they do not want to give this right of /''o way at this time. The only way we can get this right of way is through condemnation until Lot 32 is developed. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked Mr. Boardman what form stipulation 5 should �� Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page 6' take on this proposal we are looking at now. � . �r. Boardman said that if the Planning Commission approves this pTat as laid out, then the motion should read that Jim Lund should work with the Engineering Department in order to determine those sections of the road that should be temporary construction and that no construction to done on the half street right of way on 73� Avenue East of Pinetree Lane, and that every effort be taken by the developer to acquire the 73Z Avenue right of way in order to necessitate good road design and minimize any additional costs. Mr. Harris said stipulation six is that a topography map be . prepared befor� the Planning Commission meeting and the drainage problems be worked out with the City Engineer. Mr. Harris said we have the map and he asked Mr. Boardman if the drainage was satisfactory. Mr. Boardman said it was, and all the surface water will drain towaras Onondaga where it wi11 be piciced up in two catch basins. These catch basins will run West to another catch basin where he will pick up the lowlands between Lots 4 and 5, Block l, and then run a storm sewer out to the City storm sewer in the street. Mr. Boardman said this was superior to the first drainage plan of the petitioner. Mr. Harris said the seventh stipulation was that all the corner lots be 80 feet, and this has been done on this plat. He continued, that stipulation eig�t is to stub sewer and wat�r just behind the pavement at 74th and Anoka. This should say 732 Avenue �� and the unused right of way. Mr. Don Hanson said he questioned whether the 6 additional feet he would get from this plat would give him enough room. Mr. Boardman said he will have a total of 27 feet and this should be enough room to maneuver a car. Mr. Fitzpatrick said this is the amount we require for other developments. Mr. Harris said the normal aisle is 25 feet. Mr. Hanson said there is always a lot of accumulati�an of snow in the area of his driveway and he thought this would be a problem in the wintertime. Mr. Fitzpatrick said the Planning Commission was sympathetic to his problem, but the petitioner has already given you 6 feet and we are infringing on someone.else's property. Mr. Boardman asked Mr. Lund how this b feet would be handled. Mr. Lund said he would deed the 6 feet as Outlot A to the owner of Lot 28. Mr. Hanson asked if the houses along Onondaga would still have the staggered setbacks as mentioned at the other meeting. Mr. Harris said this was handled by our code by the average setback.requirement. MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by Drigans, that the PZanning Commission close the Public Hearing on the consideration of a preliminare �Iat, P.S. #74-03, Jim Lund•Estates, by Jim Lund. Upon a voice vote, �' a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Harris asked if there were any curb cuts across the street from Pinetree Lane? Mr. Lund said there wasn't any. Mr. Harris said � �'1 � Plannin Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page 7 it wouldn't interfere with the park in any way then. Mr. Boardman said no, this is a better plan. MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council a��prc�val of the pre.Ziminary p.Zat, P.S. #74-03, Jim Lunc7 Estates, by Jim Lund, being a replat of Lot 30 and the North Fialf of Lot 31, Auditor's Subdi.vision IJo. 129, located between Onondaga Street and 73rd Avenue N.E., with the fo.Zlowing stipulations: I. � 3. Petitioner deed to the owner of Lot 28, Auditor's Subdivision #129, Outlot A, for driveway access. Provide underground utilities. Provide two trees, 2 inches in diameter for each Iot, one to be placed in the boulevard and one within t1iE+ property line. 4. Pet7tioner should work with the Enginee.�ing Department in order to determine those sections of the road that should be tempor- ary construct.ion and that no construction be done on the half street right of way on 73'� Avenue East of Pinetree Lane, and that every effort be taken by the developer to acquire the 73� Avenue right of way in or_der to necessitate good road design and minimize any additional costs. 5. Stub sewer and water just behind the pavement at 73� Avenue in the unused half street right of wa�. Upon a voice vote, a1Z voting aye, the moiion carried unanimousZy. Mr. Harris said he liked this preliminary plat better than the one presenied at the Plats & Subdivisions-Streets & Utilities Sub- committee meeting and thought it was environmentally sound. 3. F.UBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #74-07, CL�II'FORD A. ANDERSON: Per Fridley City Code, Section 502.101, 3, D, to allow a garage for the storage, repairs and.servicing of motor vehicles not over two-ton capacity, on Lots 12, 13 and 14, Block 4, Ree's Addition, the same being 6385 University Avenue N.E. Mr. Clifford Anderson wa;: present. MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Harris, that the Planning waive the reading of the Public Hearinq notice on the request Special Use Permit, SP #74-07, by Clafford A. Anderson. Upon vote, a11 voting aye, the motfon carried unanimously. Commission for a a voice Mr. Boardman said a portion of the�Conoco station has been � rented out to this repair garage in which they are doing auto body work and painting. If there are no cc?znplaints from the neighbors, the � administration has no objection to th:i request as long as they do follow the codes that cover this typ�: .�oPerati•ons such as no outside • parking of cars being worked on for mcax�e t.�an �8 hours, and that the building be brought up to code. '�liere are both fire codes and building � � � � Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page 8 codes they will have to meet. Mr. Fitzpatrick said this usage is allowed in C-2 zoning with a Special Use Permit. Mr. Drigans asked Mr. Anderson what hours he would be in operation? Mr. Anderson said it would be from 9 to 6. Mr. Drigans said then he didn't plan on doing any evening work. Mr. Anderson said he probably would once in awhile. Mr. Boardman said this garage is a separate business and is�.not. connected to Mr. Ryan's business. He would not be able to pump gas. Mr. Anderson said the tanks have been removed, the pumps are gone and this part of the property.is all cemented over. Mr. Drigans�asked how many stalls he had. Mr. Anderson said he had four. Mr. Fitzpatrick said he v��anted to make the petitioner aware that he could not operate unde� the special use requested if this property .went back.to b.eing a filling station. Mr. Harris asked where he was going to do the painting? Mr. Anderson said he has been open since November and he has a spray booth. Mr. Harris asked if this meets the Fire Marshall's standards? Mr. Boardman said this will be gone over by the Fire Marshall and the electrical inspecto-r and anything that doesn't meet the code will be brought up to code. Mr. Harris asked how much outside parking they had for this property? Mr. Anderson said he had about 8 stal"ls. Mr. Anderson said hE doesn't use this outside parking very much. Mr. Lindblad asked if there was going to be any outside storage of refuse or car parts? Mr. Anderson said he had a rubbish container and there woul.d be no storage of car parts. He gets rid of them right away. • MOZ'ION by Lindblad, seconded by Harris, that the Planning Commissior close the Public Hear.ing on the request for a Special Use Permit, SP #74-07, by Clifford A. Anderson. ilpon a voice vc�te, all�voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. MOfiIOl1 by Harris, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commissior recommend to Council approval of the request for e Special Use Permit, SP #74-07, by C.Zifford A. Anderson, per Fridley City Code, Section 205..i01, 3, D, to allow a garage for the storage, repairs, and servicing of motor. vehicles not over two-ton capacity on Z;ots12, .Z3, and I4, B1ock 4, Ree`s Addition, with the stipulation that this be granted on that portion of the bui�ding known as 6385 University Avenue N.E., only for the period of time that this building is leased to the petitioner, Clifford Anderson. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carriec unanimously. . r:��:, � T Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page 9 4. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #74-08, MARVIN HARTSE: Per Fridley City Code, Section 205.051, 2, A, to allow construction of a second accessory building on Lots 14, 15 and 16, along with vacated 57Z Avenue N.E. adjacent to these lots, Block 4, City View Addition, thE: same being 475 57th Place N.E. Mr. Marvin Hartse was present. MOTION by Harris, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commissio, waive the reading of the Public Hearing notice on the request for a special use permit, 5P #74-08, by Marvin Hartse. Upon a voice vote, aI1 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr.� Hartse said this storage building is designed like a little white barn and will be 12 feet by 14 feet. Mr. Boardman said this building is being placed on a walkway easement. If it is determined that a sidewalk will be constructed on this walkway, it should be a stipulatia� on this special use permit that the petitioner will be given a 30 day notice to relocate this building. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked Mr. Hartse if there was some reason he . wanted�to locate this building so far back on his lot? Mr. Hartse rn said this will be approximately 10 feet from his fence and the location falls between trees and he thoughti.it would look better located there. Mr. Lindblad asked if the City has any plans at this time for constructing a sidewalk on this walkway? Mr. Boardman said no, but it could possibly go in if the bikeway proposal goes through. Nir. Boardman said the fence would have to come down the same time the building would have to be relocated. Mr. Drigans asked what this building would be used for. Mr. Hartse said he was going to use it for stora�e of his lawnmower, bicycles, etc. Mr. Boardman said this has to be anchored to a permanent foundation, Mr. Fitzpatrick asked Mr. Hartse if he was aware that if he located this building five feet closer to his house that he wouldn't have to relocate it. Mr. Hartse said he still wanted to place this building as shown on the surv.ey of his lot. MOTION BY Drigans, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission close the PubZic Hearing on the request for a'Special Use Permit, SP #74-08, by Marvin Hartse. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motzon caraied unanimously. � . MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by Harris, that the Planning Commissioi �� recommend to Council approval of the request for a Special Use Permit, SP #74-OS, by Marvin Hartse, per Fridley City Code, Section 205.051, 2, A, to a11ow construction of a second accessoru building on Lots 14, 15 and 16, along w�th vacated 57� Avenue N.E. a�jacent to these 1ots, BZock � Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page 10 � 4, City View Addition, the same being 475 57th Place N.E., with the stipulations that this buildinq be sec.urely anchored to a permanent foundation with a 30 day notice qiven for the relocation of this building when the walkway is developed. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye. the motion carried unanimously. r� ,�1 5. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #74-09, BY ANTHONY R. BOURDEAUX: Per Fridley City Code, Section 205.051, 2, A, to allow construction of a second accessory building on Lot.4, Auditor's Subdivision No. 129, the same being 1533 Onondaga Street N.E. Mr. R. 0. Bourdeaux, the petitioner's father, was present to represent the petitioner. � MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission waive the reading of the Public Hearing notice on the request for a Special Use Permit, SP �74-09, by Anthony R. Bourdeaux. Upon a voice vote, a1Z voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Bourdeaux said this was a 12 foot x 14 foot metal storage building which his son will use to store parts for a 1932 Ford car which he is restoring to mint condition. He said this does involve the City because the West boundary of this property has a fence all along the lot line �vhich separates this property from Flanery Park. Mr. Drigans asked what type of foundation this shed would have. Mr. Bourdeaux said he was from New Brighton and was not familiar with the Fridley codes, but his son would do whatever was required. Mr. Bourdeaux said he didn't think his son planned to pour a concrete slab. He said the reason his son hasn't enlarged his present garage is because this would require a survey of the lot and this his son didn't want to do. He said his son would much rather add to his existing garage than have this storage building, and although his present garage is 15 feet from the neighboring fence, he was told by the City that he couldn't add on to his present garage without a survey. He said the City has a fence along one property line, and there is a new house with a cyclone fence on the other side. Mr. Bourdeaux said they knew where the easements were, so his son saw no reason to go to the expense of having a survey done when he knew wher� all the property lines were. Mr. Harris said the petitioner was going to have to have the property�surveyed no matter when he builds another garage or adds to the present one. He said it would seem to him that the petitioner would be better off getting the 1ot�surveyed and building what he really wants than going to the expense of a metal storage building. Mr. Bourdeaux said he wculd still like to have the special use permit considered and he would tell his son what the Planning Commission suggested. MOTION Commi s.s i on Permit, SP by Drigans, seconded by Lindblad, that the �Ianning � close the Public Hearing on the request for a Special Use #74-09, by Anthony Bourdeaux. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting � � Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Pag.e 11 aye, the motion carried unanimously. MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by Harris, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council approval of �he request for a Special Use Permit, SP #74-09, by Anthony Bourdeaux, per Fridley City Code, Section 205.051, 2, A, to a11ow construction of a second accessory buiZding on Lot 4, Auditor's Subdivision No. .Z29, the same beinq I533 Onondaga Street N.E., with the stipulation that this building be securely anchored to a permanent foundation. Upon a vaice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 6. PUBLIC HEARING: RE4UEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #74-10, BY W. RED STANG: Per Fridley City Code, Section 205.101, 3, N, to allow trailers, c�mpers, mobile homes, boats, machinery, sporting equipment alzd like enterprises having its merchandise in the open �and not under the cover of display.salesroom, to be located on Lots 1 and 2, Block l, C. D. Hutchinson Addition, located at 7451 East River Road N.E. Mr. W. Red Stang was present. MOTION by Harris, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission waive the reading of the Public Hearing notice on the request for a 5pecial Use Permit, 5P #74-10, by W. Red Stang. Upon a voice vote, aI1 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. ,� Mr. Stang said they �aer� going to use the grocery store portion of this building for the display of snowmobiles and the two stalls for � repairing snowmobiles. � Mr. Fitzpatrick asked if he would be using the entire corner. Mr. Stang. said the gas station portion of the building will still stay gas station. . Mr. Boardman said the petitioner was presently doing business at 7701 East River Road. Mr. Drigans said the Public Hearing notice said this was requested so merchandise could be in the open and not under cover of a display salesroom. Mr. Stang said they did have merchandise in the open at their present location, but the only thing they were going to have at this lacation was snowmobiles, and they would be in the salesroom. Mr. Walter Gay, 7479 East River Road N.E., said filiere was too much activity at that corner now, and in his opinion, he didn't think they needed any more. He said he was speaking for other people in the neighborhood also. Mr. Drigans asked if the building was still owned by the Gulf Oil Company. Mr. Stang said it was owned by the Kunz Oil Company now. Chairman Fitzpatrick asked Mr. Gay if he thought the proposed use was going to generate more activity that the previous use of the buildin as a grocery store? Mr. Gay said he would have to tell the neighbors what was really being proposed for this site and see how they felt about � � Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page 12 it. He said when they read the Public Hearing notice they thought the proposal was much different. Mr. Harris said he had been quietly discussing this with Mr. Boardman for the last few minutes, and without outside storage, we're not sure the petitioner needs a special usA permit. Mr. Drigans said this was his feeling on the matter also. Mr. Boardman said this is one of the vague areas of the code where we really have nothing to cover this type of operation. We do have a section in our code on commercial recreation and whether thi_s� falls into this category or not isn't clear. Under Accessory Uses, we have storage of inerchandise, solely intended to be retailed by a related and established principal use. We have nothing as far as servicing of these vehicles and whether servicing of�snowmobiles would be classified as a garage for the storage, repairs and.servicing of motor vehicles not over two-ton capacity, or not, he didn't know. Mr. Harris said that by definition a snowmobile is not classified as a motor vehicle. A motor vehicle is something with wheels that travels on public right of way, and by ordinance we don't allow snow- mobiles on our public right of way. Mr. Boardman said this leaves the section of the code that was quoted. in the Public Hearing notice. ^` Chairman Fitzpatrick said that if he was going to do what the Public Hearing notice said, he would need a Special Use Permit, but as the petitioner has said he is not going to have any outside display, he didn't see the need for a special use permit either. Mr. Drigans said if Mr. Stang intended to have any outside storage he thought a plan should be presented as to where he intended to have this outside storage. We should be given a plot plan showing the number of things he might store outside and where it will be located. Mr. Harris asked how many of the items mentions in the Public Hearing notice the p��itioner would be selling? Mr. Stang said that all he will have at this site were snowmobiles, outboard motors and some trailers for snowinobiles. He said he thought he could comply with the exiting code for C-2 zoning without a special use. Mr. Boardman said that if there is no outside display, this would be a permitted use in this zoning without a special use permit. Mr. Stang said there was an area behind the building about 40 feet by 100 feet which will be completely fenced in, and anything that had to be stored outside will be stored in this area. Mr. Gay • �from what the � probably have said that if t�is was going to be a different proposal Public Hearing notice stated, the neighbors would a different viewpaint. � Mr. Drigans said he thought the Planning Commission should continue this item until we get clarification on whether a special use �� -�>�.� Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page 13 permit is needed, and if it is needed, we should get an alternate plan � from the petitioner on where he is going to put up a fence for storage. This could probably be worked out between the City administration and the petitioner and a special use might not be necessary. Mr. Boardman said that whether this proposal needs a special use permit or riot, he thouqht this should still go to the Building Standards- Design Control Subcommittee on the outside development. He said we should get a�letter from the petitioner stating that there would never be any outside display on this site. With this letter we can clarify whether a special use permit,is needed or not. The petitioner can � withdraw this special use request, and make a new request if a special use permit it needed. MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Harris, tha� the Planning Commission continue until June 5, 1974, the request for a SpeciaZ Use Permit, SP #74-10, by W. Red Stang, per Fridley City Code, Section 205.101, 3, N, to alZow traiZers, campers, mobile homes, boats, machi.nery, sportin_q Fquipment and Zike enterprises h�ving its merchandise in the open and not under the cover of display salesroom, to be located on Lots I and 2, B1ock 1, C. D. Hutchinson Addition, located at 7451 East River Road N.E., to a11ow the petiticner to work with the City administration to determine whether the petitioner's proposaZ needs a special use permit. Upon a vo�ce vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimousZy. 7. REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT, L.S. #74-06, DARREL A. FARR DEVELOPMENT ^ CORPOR.ATION: Split off that part of Lot l, Block 28, lying South and East of a line described as follows: BeQinning at the North- west corner of Lot 5, Block 4,: thence North 0 degrees 09 minutes 12 seconds East a distance of 1.50 (bearing assumed from plat of record); thence South 89 degrees 50 minutes 48 seconds East to the West line of Lot 4, Block 4, and there terminating, and add it to �ot 5, Block 4, Innsbruck North Townhouse 3rd Addition, the same being 5537 East Bavarian Pass N.E. 8. REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT, L.S. #74-07, DARREL A.�'FARR DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION: Split off the South 2 feet af Lot 5, Block 4, and add it to Lot 6, B1ock 4, Innsbruck North To�nhouse 3rd Addition, the same being 5539 East Bavarian Pass N.E. 9. REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT, L.S. #74-08, DARREL A.'FARR DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION: Split off the South 2 feet of Lot 7, Block 4, and add it to Lot 8, Block 4, Innsbruck North Townhouse 3rd Addition, the same being 5533 East Bavarian Pass N.E. 10. REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT, L.S. #74-09, DARREL A. FARR DEVELOPMF;NT C012POF2.ATION: Split o�f the South 2 feet of Lot 6, Block 4, and add it to Lot 7, Block 4, Tnnsbruck North Townhouse 3rd Addition, the same being 5535 East Bavarian Pass N.E. Mr. Roland Kruger was present ta represent the p�titioner. ^ Mr. Harris said this item had been before the Plats & Subdivisions- Streets & Utilities Subcommittee and they had recommended approval of the land division but recommended that this be handled as a replat instead of �� Planning_Commi!ssion Meeting - May 22, 1974 Paqe 14 a lot split.. One parcel of land has a complicated legal description because it is taken from the common area. � � Mr. Lindblad asked if the petitioner had any objection to replatting. Mr. Kruger sa�_d they had no objection, except to the time involved in replating. Chairman Fitzpatrick said this would be a pretty routine plat so the Public Hearing notices could go out for the Planning Commission and for the Council ahead of time and this would hurry it up a little. Mr. Kruger said they have sald the townhouse with the garage that has the complicated legal description (5537 East Baaarian Pass N.E.). . MOTION by Harris seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission approved the concept of the Zand division on Lots 5, 6,"7 and 8, Block 4, Innsbruck North Townhouse 3rd Addition, but recommend that this be handled as a replat, rather than by lot splits. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 11. REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT, L.S. �74-04, MRS. MILDRED MUSTONEN: Split off the Westerly 75 feet of the Easterly 14�'.89 feet of Lot 11, Block 2, Spring Lake Park Lakeside, to make another building site, which will be addressed as 1579 75th Avenue N.E. Tlie petitioner had noi:ified the administration that she was ill ^ and was unable to attend the meeting. Mr. Boardman said that when the petitioner called the office, she was told that the Plats & Subdivisions-Streets and Utilities Sub- committee had recommended approval of this lot split, but that she would have to get a survey of this Iot. The petitioner agreed to do this. Mr. Boardman said as far as the City administration is concerned, the lot that is being split off ineets all the code requirements so we have no objection to this lot split being granted. The existing house on the part of the lot that will be left does fit on the 75 foot lot even if this does not meet the 80 foot corner lot requirement. Mr. Harris said the reason for the lot split is so the petitioner can sell this portion of her property. She is a widow and the assess- ments for the street, plus the fact that this is a large lot and too hard for her to maintain are the reasons sh� want's to sell this part of her property. Mr. Drigans said he thought someone from administration should contact Mrs. Mustonen and explain to her.about the tax structure on this property becoming two lots in case she didn't sell the lot as soon as she planned an. � MOTION by Harris, seconded by Dr�gans,' that the Planning Commission recommend to Council approval of the request for a 1ot split, L.S. #74- 04, by Mrs. Mildred Muston�n, to splzt off the Westerly 75 feet of the �asterly 349.89 feet of Lot .�`.ti, BZock 2, Sprin.g Lake Park Lakeside, to Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page�l5 'make another building site to be addressed as 1579 75th Avenue N.E. with the stipulation that a survey be made of this property before � finai approval is given. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimousZy. 12. REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT, L.S. #74-05, SPRINGFIELD HOMES: Split off the Northerly 4 feet of Lot 4, and add it to Lot 3, Block l, Innsbruck North, the same being 5643 North Danube Road N.E. No one was present to represent the petitioner. Mr. Harris said the foundation is already in for this house and they used the radius iron instead of the lot iron to locate the house on the ?.ot. They got the house 4 feet too close to the property line to meet the sideyard requirement. This is the reason for the lot split request. • Mr. Boardman said that Springfield Homes owns both lots and Lot 4 will still have a front footage of 78.36 feet which is comparable to other lot sizes in this area. Mr. Drigans said he thought this should have been handled as a variance rather than a lot split. There will be a lot of legal work involved in a 1ot split and a variance could be handled locally. Mr. Harris said it would be easier to obtain mortgage money on � a house that meets all the setback requirements than one that has a�ariance. Mr. Drigans said does that mean that every variance � that is granted on a house may make it difficult to sell? Mr. Harris said that usually no additional land is �vailable and a variance is granted on a hardship that is requested by the property owner. On this request, there is property available so that a variance is not necessary. Mr. Boardman said that by requesting this lot split, both lots 3 and 4 will still meet the code, and the petitioner felt this was better than asking for a variance and having a house that.did not meet t.he code on the side yard requirement. MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by Harris, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council approvaZ of the request for a Iot split, L.S. #74- 05, by Springfield Homes, to split off theNortherZy 4 feet of Lot 4, and add it to Lot 3, BZock 1, Innsbruck North, the same being 5643 North Danube Road N.E. Upon a voice vote, Harris, Lindblad, Fitzpatrick votinq aye, Drigans absfaining, the motion carried. Mr. Drigar:s said he abstained because he felt this should have been handled as a variance rather than a lot split. 13. RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMPREHENSIVE PARK PLAN Mr. Boardman said the Council had this on their agenda on May 20, 1974 and they delayed any action on this plan until surveys are done and there is a more detailed study on the bikeways and pathways and on park usage. This delay will be between six and seven months. � Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page 16 Mr. Boardman said this was given to the Planning Commission /1 � just to receive the Plan. You don't have to discuss this unless you want to have a discussion so your input can go to the Council. He said that all the recommendatibns that were made by the Planning Commission were incorporated into the Plan by the_Parks & Recreation Commission, except for the changing of the name. /'� Mr. Drigans said they coul.d discuss this. Mr. Harris said that he would rather wait until they had the same informdtion that the Council had requested. . MOTION by Harris, seconded by LindbZad, that the Planning Commission tabZe the receiving of the Parks & Recreation Comprehensive Plan pending the receiving of the same informatzon that has been requested by the City Council. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. ` 14. HYDE PARK STUDY Mr. Boardman said this study was requested by the City Council because they had a request to develop a single family residence into a commercial development, and this location did not meet the requirements of commercial development. The Council did deny this request and then they requested that the Planning Department do a study on the commercial area of Hyde Park to determine the best way to combine lots so this area could be developed. Mr. Boardman presented a map of Hyde Park showing the location of the R-2, R-3 and commercial area. He said that what the Planning Department did was to go through this area and ]_ocate all the structures presently on these properties to determine what type of �and use we had. Yellow designates residential, orange designates apartments and red designates commercial. Chairman I'itzpatrick said the request that the Council received was in the commercial area. Mr:. Boardman said it was, but what the petitioners wanted to do was turn a residential structure into commercial and there was a problem of variances and that the lot size did not meet the commercial requirem�nts of 20,000 square feet or a lot width of�160 feet. The Planning Department divided the parcels up into usable sites according to present lot lines,to show what would be feasible for someone to buy and still leave a usable site, without request iing a variance. The map presented shows the plan we came up with. Mr. Harris said that this study only concerns the portion of Hyde Park that is zoned commercial then. Mr. Boardman said y�s. Mr. Boardman said the dotted lines .on the map show ownership of the lots. . ' Mr. Lindblad asked if the Council or the City had any long range /1 program for this area? It is such a blighted area. Mr. Boardman said that the only way that we are going to be able to do anything in this ar�a as far as controlled development is to eigher stick to a concept plan like this, which we still might have some problems with, or go to a Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page l7 ^ Housing Redevelopment Authority. Because of the amount of property owners, it is unfeasible for any commercial developer to come in and purchase that much property, tear down that many buildings, and still put up a commercial building. We are going to have problems with this area for the rest of our lives. Mr. Boardman said What, We are asking the Planning Commission to approve is a concept, and ask them to stick to that concept in consid- ering any proposals for this area. Mr. Harris said a Housing Redevelopment Authority was very unpopular in Fridley, and just mentioning it, he could smell the tar. Mr.Boardma� said if someone comes in and purchases a couple of lots and tries to develop it commercially, with variances and other problems. , we are going to have the same thing as we have up in Onaway. This is really something we don't want. Mr. Harris said that if this plan becomes a puhlic document, he could see.all kinds of pitfalls. The first thing people in the area are going to say is that you are going to take my land away from me. They won't understand the purpose of the plan. We are going to h�ave to make it perfectly clear what the purpose of the plan is. Mr. Drigans asked what criteria the Planning Department used in /"� establishing the size of the parcels far development? Mr. Boardman said f irst they divided:. the area into parcels by individual ownership. He said that what they were suggesting was to have the smaller parcels on the inside, because of the corner lot restrictions. Chairman Fitzpatrick asked the range in size of the proposed divisions of parcels. Mr. Boardman said the smallest parcel was 20,600 square feet. Mr. Harris asked how rnany commercial enterprises were in this area now. Mr. Boardman said the Bell Telephone is im one.area. We have the Schmedeke Used Car Lot, and Gabrelcik's.Muggli. Manufacturing is in this area. Mr. Lindblad said he thouqht Mr. Muggli sold out to Kurt Manufacturing. Mr. Boardman said the commercial rezoning for most of this area is really not too feasible. He said it was brought out in the first study that the t�pe of commercial that would be attracted to this area would probably only pay about $1.64 per square foot, which is the comparabla price in this area, and the costs in this area, with tearing down the buildings and other costs, would bring it to approximately $2.60 per square foot. Right there we are talking about $1.00 per square foot more than most commercial enterprises will pay. This, of course, was the cost at the time of the first study. ^ Mr. Bs�ardntan said he thought before the City would have to go could be developed commerci.ally. go to the vaters, and he couldn't it wauld only be a matter of time to a Housing Authority so this area Mr. Harris said this would have to see it passing. ,�� Planning Com.�nission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page 18 Mr. Lindblad asked by a housing authority, what do you infer? Mr. Harris sa�.d it woulci give the City the right to go to � condemnation, condemn the property, tear it all down, replat it, and sell it for commercial developmen�. A Housing Redevelopment Authority provides the funds with federal aid or other programs available. The money, in effect, is returned to the Housing Redevelop- ment Authority when the property is sold. � � Mr. Boardman said the City would have trouble getting any federal funding unless it became involved with some housing authority. He said he thought that one mistake that was made when the first housing authority was proposed for Fridley was that nat en.ough information was given to the voters. , Mr. Harris said he aqreed with Mr. Boardman that a lot of things need to be done zn Hyde Park, but from a practical standpoint, what can be done? He said Minneapolis has had a sad experience with a Housing Redevelopment Authority. Th�y tore down large tracts of housing and the area was very slow to develop. Mr. Drigans said maybe the approach to Hyde Park would be to work on one area at a time and c�u��ntrate on that area. It looks like the commerical area could be divided into four sections. Mr. Boardman said �here could be other ways to develop'this area. Industrial Revenue Bonding is now available to commercial areas. Mr. Harris asked if the.Cit�� would have the right of condemnation under Industrial Reveriue Bonding. Mr. Boardman said the on�y way the City would have the r.ight of condemnation would be through a housing authorit� Mr. Boardman said this could be developed piece by piece, but you have to really follow a concept to have good control on development. If someone came in with a praposal that was less than code and required variances, with a plan like this, you would have a better basis for denial. Mr. Harris said he thought one of the biggest problems in the area right now is that the property in Hyde Park is priced right out of the market. It was six years ago, and he didn't think this had changed. Mr. Harris asked if there was any property in the commercial area of HXde Park that was vacant or unsafe for habitation. Mr. Boardman said that only one house has been condemned. Mr. Harris said he thought a close watch should be kept on this area so that any marginal houses could be condemned. Mr. Boardman said the City could do that under present State regulations for hazardous buildings. However, the devel- opment of a City Housing Code could provide a better way to control it by the establishment of more workable standards. Some cities are develop�_r�g an occupancy permit program. Chairman Fitzpatrick said Minneapolis has a housing code, but it is very minimal and not enforced very well. � Mx. Drigans aaked if this occupancy permit would mean that if a Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 � Page 19 house was sold, that the buyer could not move in without an occupancy /1 permit? Mr. Boardman said that was correct. That house would have to meet code before it could be occupied. Mr. Drigans said he thought this was taken care of when you applied for a mortgage. Your h�use has to meet certain codes to get a F.H.A. or G.I. loan. Mr. Boardman said this�wouldn't.cov�r conventiQnal loans or someone taking over a mortgage, or someone paying cash for a home. Mr. Fitzpatrick said this occupancy permit would cover rental property also. Mr. Boardman said maintenance could be covered with this also. Mr. Harris said that if a tax credit was given for maintaining your home instead of penalizing people by raising the taxes for im- provements, there would be a lot more maintenance done. �Mr. Drigans�asked Mr. Boardman if he had any documentation or narrative on'this proposed Hyde Park study? Mr. Boardman said it was strickly an oral presentation. Mr. Boardman said it was thought that there should be a Public Hearing set on this study. Mr. Drigans said that before the Planning Commission did that, he wou�.d like to get sorne background on how the Planning Department developed this concept, what criteria was used for this plan, So that we can answer intelligently any questions that are asked at this Public Hearing. Mr. Boardman said he would see that thE Planning Commission got this information. � Mr. Boardman said what we are looking for is concept approval by the � Planning Commision, a concept apprcval that they are willing to strive for. Then the people in the area should be notified that this is a concept approval and this is what th2 City is going to strive for in this area. A plan that has been approved by the Planning Commission and Council has more teeth, if they want to use this plan as a basis for a denial of a request. � Mr. Boardman said that if the Planning Commission doesn't want to have a Public Hearing on this proposal, they can approve the concept and send it on to the Council and let them hold the Public Hearing. Chairman Fitzpatrick said that while he approved the concept of having the parcels large enought to meet the commercial requirements, he wouldn't want to give a�proval of someone's property being part of one parcel rather than another parcel. So what concept are we approving: Mr. Lindblad said that this concept looks real good on p.aper, but it real life it might be very difficult to develop in just this way. Mr. Harris asked how many property owners were involved in the commerc�al a�ea. Mr. Boardman said he thought it was about 70. Mr. Harris said he could see that this concept would make it easier to deny variances and development of small parcels of land. � � Mr. Lindblad said we would have to determine what would be good and what would not be good for this area. What kinc� of businesses should be in the area and what kind of buildings,�we want. Mr. Harris �■ Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page 20 said this would be up to the developer. Mr. Boardman said not necessar- . ily, because we do have codes to follow. This is zoned C-2 and there ,� are restrictions on what can be developed. There are some things that come in under special use, but this could be denied also with a concept plan. � Mr. Drigans said the only thing he would be ready to approve woul� be that there should be a concept plan for this area, but not necessar- ily this concept. Maybe there should be a new layout of streets, etc. There may be a better way to develop this. Mr. Harris said with this many parcels, how would you implement a new street plan. He thought. there had been enough problems with the slip-off plan. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked what would be wrong in referring this to the Fridley Housing Authority. Mr. Baardman said that the Planning Commission can only recommend that Council sena this item to the Fridley Housing Authority. Chairman Fitzpatrick asked what the Council wanted from th� Planning Commission? Mr. Boardman said the Council asked that this study be dane, and we felt that it should go to the Planning Commission for their review. Chairman Fitzpatrick said that if the Planning Commission was going to have a Public Hearing on this study, we wouldn't want to approve a concept prior to that time. Mr. Harris said that when we are dealing with that many people's futures, we should find out what they think. � Chairman Fitzpatrick said that Mr. Drigans has asked for the criteria used in preparir.g,this s�udy. It is obvious that you are creating parcels large enough for commmercial development without leaving unbuildable lots. Mr. Boardman said they took what was there and tried to set up a feasible concept for the total development of the commercial land. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked if there were copies available of the Hyde Park S�udy done f_ive years ago? Mr. Boardman said there were. Chairman Fitzpa�trick said he had a copy, but he thought the other members of the Commission should have a copy also. if it ments plan, and bers Mr. Lindblad asked if this area could•be more feasibly developed ' was rezoned to a greater use? Mr. Boardman said the land require- would be even greater. Mr. Drigans said he would like the th� minutes of the meetings held a copy of the original study. Mr. that there wasn't a great deal of criteria used in setting up this during the last H�de Park Study Fitzpatrick said that he remem- apposition to the rezoning. Mr. Fitzpatrick said the Planning Commmission did not have to take • any action at this time. They will wait for the information that � was requested. . � � Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Page 21 15. REVIEW OF SECTION 205. OF THE CITY CODE � Mr. Harris said that at �.ome future date, he would like the Planning Commission to review 5ection'205 of the Fridley Code. He said there are many areas that are quite vague and hard to interpret. Mr. Boardman agreed with Mr. Harris. Chairman Fitzpatrick said this is something the administration could take under advisement and put on our agenda when we don't have so many other items to consider. 16. SPECIAL USE PERP�IT AND VARIANCE CONSIDERATION CRITERIA FOR ADVER�.I'ISING SIGNS - Mr. Drigans said he had compiled a list that could be used as a criteria on handling requests for�variances and special use permits on billboards. He asked the Planning Commission to read the list from the Board of Appeals minutes of May 14; 1974. l. Welfare, Safety of Public 2. Environmental Impact: - Visual Pollution 3. Financial - a. Loss to owner b. Loss to Leasee c. Lass ta City 4. Miscellaneous - a. Locatibn b. Length of Time Sign Has Been Ere�ted c. ConditionjMaintenance Sign Has Received d. Other Chairman Fitzpatrick �sked how much.time is meant by le.nth of.time? Mr. Drigans said he thought about five or six years. Chairman Fitz- patrick said the Planning Comznission said each billboard should be considered on its av,Tn merit and if these questions were asked on each request, the answers could determine our decision. Mr. Harris said he thought it was a good list. . MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Harris, that the Planning Commission approve the criteria from the Board of Appeals meeting of May 14, 1974, for cansidering special use perrnits and variances .for advertising signs, and that a copy of this criteria be attached to every request for specia use permits and variances on billboards. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the mot�,on carried unanimously. Mr�.Harri� said he thought almost all the bill.boards are going to require variances. . Mr. Harris said he thought these should be referred to the .Environmental Quality Commission first. Mr. Drigans said they are not asub�committee of the Planning Commission and he thought it was up to /"'\ Council what was referred to them. . Mr. Lindblad said that if things aren't referred to them, they never will become a Subcommittee of the Planning Commission. .::,� � Planning Commission Meeting - May 22, 1974 Paqe�22 Mr. Harris said that maybe we should make a request of Council that they refer these applications on billboards to the Environmental �Quality Commission, and �hen send their input directly to us. He � said they would have to give reasons for their recommendations. . � MOTIDN b� Harri.s, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commi�ssion request the City Council to refer a1Z the requests for the continuation of bilZboards that need special use permits or variances in the City of Fridley to the EnvironmentaZ Quality Commission for their review and recommendations and that these be forwarded to the Board of Appeals and Planning Commission before they make their final �isposition on these requests for variances and special use permits. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. ' Chairman Fitzpatrick.adjourned the meeting at 12:45 A.M. Respectfully submitted, � �� L�?-'C� % '�-'f�-1-rY�.O Darothy Eve son, Secretary I"t � � THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF MAY 28, 1974 _ �3 The meeting was called to order by Chairman Drigans at 7:34 P.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: MEMBERS ABSENT : OTHERS PRESENT: Drigans, Crowder, Plemel, Wahlberg Gabel Howard Mattson Jerry Boardman - Engineering Aide - Planning Assistant . MOTION by Wahlberg, seconded by Crowder, to approve the minutes of the May 14, 1974 meeting as written. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. 1. A RE UEST FOR VARIANCES OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY CODE AS FOLLOWS: SECTION 205.053, � 4B, 5A, TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK ON A STREET SIDE OF A CORNER LOT FROM 17.5 FEET TO 6 FEET, AND, SECTION 205.053, 4D, TO REDUCE THE BACK YARD SETBACK ON A DOUBLE FRONTAGE LOT FROM 35 FEET TO 30 FEET, TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A GAT2AGE '�O BE LOCATED ON LOT l, BLOCK l, MURDIX PARK, THE SAME�BEING 688 HIGHWAY #100 N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA. (RE UEST BY PATRICIA ABRAMSr 688 HIGHWAY #100 N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA.) MOTION by Wahlberg, seconded by Crowder, to waive reading the public hearing notice. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Ms. Abrams was present to present her request. She explained that she has a double frontage lot between Cheri Lane and Highway #100 and also has Monroe Street running along the east property line. She said Monroe Street is not an improved street and they are the only people that use it. She said the land adjacent to hers, across Monroe Street, is owned by the City and by Target. She said their garage will face Highway 100 but they will exit onto Monroe Street. - Mr. Crowder asked if they presently have a garage and Ms. Abrams said they didn't, they just pull into the driveway. Chairman Drigans asked why they want the garage exiting onto Monroe 5treet when its not improved. Ms. Abrams stated they can't exit onto Cheri Lane without cutting down or into a hill and they have just gotten their yard to look pretty good and they don't want to dig it all up. Mr. Crowder asked why Monroe Street has never been vacated. Ms. Abrams said maybe its because there is a watermain running down the middle of it. She added that in the 12 years�she has lived there, the City has never plowed or maintained Monroe Street. Mr. Crowder added the 33 feet for this right of way is a lot of land that seems to be going to waste. � Mrs. Wahlberg asked if the neighbors have been talked to about the variances. Ms. Abrams said they only have one neighbor and they have no objections. MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Wahlberg, to close the public hearirig. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. . Mr. Crowder stated he had no obj.ections to the variances but he feTt the �street should be vacated. � birs. Wahlberg stated she felt to require a hard surface c�riveway would be unfair in this situation but Ms. Abrams said they already have a driveway in, � out to Monroe Street, and they will be adding the apron to the existing driveway when the garage is built. � /"1 L The Minutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee Meeting_ �f M�y 28. i974_ Page 2 MOTION by Wahlberg, seconded by Crowder, to recommend to the City Council, �C� approval of the variances. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. 2. A RE UEST FOR A VARIANCE OF SECTION 205.053, 4D, FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO REDUCE THE BACK YARD SETBACK ON A DOIIBLE FRONTAGE LOT FROM 35 FEET TO 8 FEET, TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCZ'ION OF AN INGROUND SWIMMING POOL TO BE LOCATED ON LOT 7, BLOCK 1, SWANSTROM'S COURT ADDITION, THE SAME BEING 1337 SKYWOOD LANE N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA. (RE UEST BY MR. LEE BRILLS, 1337 SKYWOOD LANE N.E. FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA.) Mrs. Lee Brills was present to present the request. MOTION by Plemel, seconded by Wahlberg, to waive reading the public hearing notice. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. N3rs.�Brills explairied she has a double frontage lot between Skywood Lane and Skywood Court. The pool will be located in their back yard, 8 feet from the Skywood Court cul de sac easement. Mr. Crowder asked why they wanted this large of a pool (18` x 36') and why it is to be located where proposed. Mrs. Brills said they didn't know the pool wouldn't fit on the lot legally as the pool company told them this size pool would fit on their lot. She said they didn't buy a dif€erent shaped pool because they don't have the depth that this one has and their son is a diver. She said the location was partially determined by a tree that they want to save. She said it could be moved a little closer to the house, where they now have a patio, but it still wouldn't meet the 35 foot setback requirement. Mrs. Wahlberg asked why a pool has to maintain the same setback as an accessory building when it is not a building. Chairman Drigans stated he felt it was because this wi11 be a permanent structure being that it is in the ground. Chairman Drigans asked what type of fencing will be provided. Mrs. Brills said they now have a partial cyclone fence with 9 foot bushes and a partial 6 foot redwood fence. She said they also have a gate that will be removed so the only entrance to the back yard will be through the house. Chairman Drigans said the Lidberg's, second house to the east, brought in the public hearinq notice they received and stated they have no objections to the variance. Mrs. Brills stated she talked to her neighbors and they have no objections. Mrso Wahlberg asked if the pool will be heated. Mrs. Brills said it will be heated but it will not have a roof over it, She added they have patio blocks between the house and the proposed pool that will be taken up and replaced with cement. She said the dirt that will be dug up will be used to fill where the soil is eroding between their lot and the neighbors. She said the City was supposed to fix this but they never did. - MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Plemel, to close the public hearing. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. The Minutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee Meeting of May 28, 1974 Page 3 Mr. Crowder asked if the elevation of the land is the same or higher than the �� street. Mrs. Brills said their back yard is about 10 feet above the street. � Mr. Plemel stated the fence and the elevation will certainly assure privacy so the neighbors shouldn't mind. Chairman Drigans stated it will only be 10 f.eet from the street but it is the rear yard and it is elevated. The erosion problem should be checked by the Engineering Department. Mr. Crowder said his only concern would be with the neighbors but they seem to have no objections. He said there should also be a boulevard between the property and the street so it won't be quite as severe as it seems. MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Wahlberg, to recommend to the City Council, approval of the variance. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried.� . 3. A RE UEST FOR VARIANCES OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE AS FOLLOWS: SECTION 205.075, 2A, TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED NUM3ER OF OFF STREET PARKING STALLS FROM 246 STALLS TO 235 STALLS, AND, SECTION 205.074, 3, T0 REDUCE THE REQUIRED LAUNDRY SPAC� FROM 190U S�ARE FEET TO 1110 S�UARE FEET, TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN 144 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX TO BE LOCATED ON THE EAST H[�LF OF THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF THE SOi7THWEST QUARTER OF SECTION 14, T-30, R-24, EXCEPT THE SOUTH 185.0 FEET THEREOF, AND EXCEPT PARCELS A AND B, THE SAI"IE BEING BORDERED BY 63RD AVENUE ON THE SOUTH, MISSISSIPPI STREET ON THE NORTH, 7TH STREET ON THE EAST AND 5TH STREET ON THE WEST, THE SAME BEING 6451 - 5TH STREET N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA. (REQUEST BY f"� � THE WALL CORPORATION, 8200 i�tORM�NDALE, MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA.) MOTION by Plemel, seconded by Crowder, to waive reading the public hearing notice. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Frank Reese, architect, was present to present the request. Mr. Reese explained the first proposal was for a long building but when soil tests were taken, the engineers wanted the building to be changed to get it on better soil, so they went to this now proposed u-shaped building. He said this building also lends a softer effect to the project. He said because of the change in the building, they needed to change the makeup of the building. He said they have located 2 laundry raoms on each floor and each contain 3 washers, 2 dryers and a counter with a soaking sink. He said this way they end up with 1 machine per nine families and they don'�t have to leave the floor to do the laundry. He added one dryer is a 15 pound machine and the other is a commercial 30 pound machine. Mr. Crawder asked if he was correct in thinking that the Code says there should be 1900 square feet per building which would be 633 square feet on each floor. Mr. Mattson said that was correct. Mr. Crowder said the variance then asked for is 370 square feet per floor which would be 123 square feet per laundry room. Chairman Drigans stated his personal feeling of the Code in this area is that it should be reevaluated. Mr. Crowder stated that the Board had recommended that this section of the Code be gone over and asked Mr. Mattson if this had been .done. Mr. Mattson said as far as�he knew it had not been done. Mr. Reese said ^ ' it was his understanding that the Code requirement�s for laundry rooms was written at a time when dryers were not provided and the people used clothes lines. . . � �'J The Minutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee Meeting of May 28, 1974 Page 4 Mr. Reese said a last minute change in their plan was to change the parking ^ stalls to have the number required but to change the size of some of the stalls in the garages to be a minimum of 9.2 feet wide instead of 10 feet. He said it is not unusual to have a 9 foot parking stall considering the increase in smaller cars.' He said all of the outside stalls would be 10 feet wide because of the snow in the winter, but he felt 9 feet would be adequate for a garage stall. He added some stalls will be 9.5 feet wide and then the stalls for the handicapped would be 14 feet wide. Mr. Crowder asked if the garage would be post free. Mr. Reese said there will be double stalls between posts. He said they have to break them up for fire purpose� too. Mrs. Wahlberg asked if this was a security garage. Mr. Reese said that it was and was one of the better type garages. He said there wil.l.be a short walk to the back door of the apartment and he said they are talking about some type of walkway covering but it is not shown on the plan because they are still talking with the Fire Chief about getting fire vehicles into the building. Chairman Drigans said on the 7th of February, the Board granted a variance to 144 units on this property. He asked if it was still to be 144 units. Mr. Reese said it will still be 144 units but the number of each type of unit has changed to be 30 tri-spacer units, 54 single bedroom and 60 two bedroom. Chairman Drigans stated the variance on the number of stalls has been withdrawn then and if the Board considers a recommendation on the variance for the size of � the stalls, a legal opinion could be obtained at the Council level as to whether public hearing notices have to be sent out. Mr. Doug Juenemann, 6280 - 7th Street n.E., stated he would like to know what is to be built and asked why the Wa11 Corporation keeps changing it. Mr. Reese explained the past proposals and then went over the present plot plan. Mr. Juenemann,after hearing the proposal,had no objections to it. . MOTION by Plemel, seconded by Wahlberg, to close the public hearing. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Chairman Drigans stated it should be recommended that the Council, if need be, notify the people, if the Board takes approval action on the stall size variance. Mr. Crowder asked if the City Code states the stalls for the handicapped have to be 14 feet wide. Mr. Reese said this is a State Code and the width need only be 12 feet wide but they wanted 14 feet in case of a van with a side ramp. He said they could take off some width from the handicapped stalls and add it onto the inside stalls to make them wider. Mr. Crowder stated since the laundry area requirement has not been studied, which he feels it should be, he didn't know if 1110 square feet of laundry room is sufficient or nat but they do have 2 rooms on each floor with 123 feet in each room. Mr. Plemel said he could see no problem with the laundry area. He added the � appearance of the building is improving each time they present it, and more smaller cars are being sold everyday so he could see no problem with the parking stall size variance. The Minutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee Meeting of May 28, 1974 ge 5 �� MOTION by Wahlberg to recommend to the City Council, approval of the variance to reduce the laundry space from 1900 square feet to 1110 square feet. She said since the variance on the number of stalls has been withdrawn, she would recommend � approval for the reduction of the parking stall size, inside the garage, from 10 feet to a minimum of 9.2 feet, provided the City Attorney at the Council meeting rules this approval is legal. Ghairman Drigans added to the motion, that in the event the City Attorney rules another public hearing must be held and notification sent out before action can be taken, the Board recommends the hearing be handled at the Council level to save time, and that the Council accept the Boards recommendation for approval of the variance. Seconded by Crowder. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. 4. A REQUEST FOR VARIANCES OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE AS FOLLOWS: SECTION 205.134, 4C, TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK FROM THE RE UIRED 25 FEET TO 8 FEET, AND, SECTION 205.135, l, E3, TO REDUCE OFF STREET PARKING FROM NO CLOSER TO A LOT LINE THAN 5 FEET TO ZERO FEET, ALL TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A WAREHOUSE TO BE LOCATED ON LOTS l, 2, 3, 4 AND 5, BLOCK 8, ONAWAY P.DDITION, THE SAME BEING 7780-7790 MAIN STREET N E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA. (RE�QJEST BY MR. HAROLD AND RICHARD HARRIS, 6210 RIVERVIEW TERRACE N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA.) MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Wahlberg, to waive reading the public hearing notice. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Mr. Richard Harris was present to present the request. Mr. Boardman explained that this building had just been before the Building Standards Design Control Subcommittee where they changed the building to be 10 feet farther to the south. This change however will not affect the variances. � Mr. Harris explained he proposed to put the building next to the 8 foot drainage and utility easement on the rear lot line which will leave an 8 foot rear yard. � He added the utilities are overhead power lines. He said this placement will line up this building with the existing building to the south. Mr. Harris said - . the parking area between these two buildings, where the parking variance is needed, is where he plans on storing his equipment. The surfacing will be asphalt roofing chips that are the only thing that will stand.up under heavy equipment. He added the parking lot for cars, on the north side of the building, will be blacktopped. Mr. Crowder asked where the loading docks are on the building. Mr.�Harris said the loading and unloading will be done entirely from 78th Avenue. He added the doors on the front are drive in doors to go into the building. Mr. Boardman explained the City has been using 20 feet for the setback on a corner lot for parking lots and Mr. Harris interjected that the Code only states 2Q feet for the front yard setback but says nothing about setbacks for parking lots on a corner lot. Mr. Boardman stated the City:has required variances on this in the past and if the �oard wants to act on this, just to keep the , procedure followed uniform, they can. • ' Chairman Drigans asked if it wouldn't save costs if the existing building was added onto instead of building a completely new building. Mr. Harris said he may connect the two later on but he can't add on to it now because the back door is used.in that building. � �■ The Minutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee Meeting of May 28, 1974 Page 6 ' � Mr. Crowder asked if the back of this building would be used at all. Mr. Harris � said it would not be. Mr. Harris added he only has 23 percent lot coverage with this building while the Code allows 40 pezcent. � � It �aas brought out that the exterior development on the west side (toward the back) of this building would be deferred until it is determined what Paco will be doing with their exterior development. MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Wahlberg, to close the public hearing. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Mr. Crowder stated his concern was with the back yard and if it was to be used, but since it is not to be used, and since with the two doors in the front and the. door off the side it will probably never be used, he could�see no problem with approving the back yard variance. He said on the 5 feet to zero feet for parking; the Board has had quite a number of these vaxiances in this area so he has no qualms about this variance. . Mr. Boardman asked if part of this building was to be sold and Mr`. Harris answered that it was not. Mr. Boardman said the only other item to consider would be the joint parking between the Paco building and the Harris building which will also need a variance of from 5 feet to zero feet. Mr. Boardman said he didn't know if the Board could act on this tonight or not but it should maybe also wait until Paco comes in with their proposal. MOTION by Plemel, seconded by Wahlberg, to recommerid to the City Council,approval of the two variances for back yard setback from 25 feet to 8 feet and the off street parking from 5 feet to zero feet from the lot line, with the stipulation that an � agreement be drawn up on the parking arrangements if part of the building is sold '„/'1 and the request for.a variance for joint parking will come back before the Board when it is determined what Paco will be doing. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motian carried. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned by Chairman Drigans`at 9:30 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Q /� . �.:J� � �_� MARY HIN Z �� Secretary � � �� B�ILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING -0F MAY 28, 1974 � The meeting was called to order by Chairman Lindblad at 8:00 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: _Txeuenfles, Lindbla� Simoneau (arrived approximately ten. minutes late) MEMBERS ABSENT: Tonco, Cariolano OTHERS PRESENT: Jerry Boardman, Planning Assistant and Howard Mattson, Engineering Aide Approval of the minutes of the May 9, 1974 meeting was waived until the next meeting. 1. CONSIDERATION OF A RF.QUEST TO COr:STRUCT A NEti9 BUILDI?dG FOR �VAREIiOU�E :u�D OrFICE US�: LOCATrD G�d LOTS l, 2, �, �t, :�'dD 5, BLOCK b; i:?dA,'+aY ADDITIC;1; T�iE Stti`1� BEING 7780 A,"1D 7790 t�L�:Ii�t STRErT i�ORTtiEAST, FRIDLEY, i<iIivNESOTA. (RL'QUE5�1' 13Y i�1�Ht;Kll AND HAROLD IIr1RRIS, b�00, 6210 RIVERVIEtiV TERRACE, rRIDLLY, i�IINNESOTA. ) Mr. Richard Harris was present for the request. Mr. Harris said he cannot move the building site 25 feet south as requested by the City staff. He said at present there is 77 feet between this building � and the one next door, if he moved the building 25 feet south this would leave 52 feet between the two buildings and not enough truck clearance for the adjacent building. Mr. Harris said the maximum he could go would be 10 feet south. The /� Board agreed to .this change. Mr. Boardman said this move would give a wider area between the parking lot on the north side and the north property line. Mr. Harris pointed out that no place in the Code book does it state a 20 foot sideyard setback for parking lots is required, only front yard setbaeks. Mr. Boardman said the Board had been going with 20 feet and was in effect the intention of the code. P4r. Harris said the law is what is read in the Code book and you can't make it say something else. Dloving the building 10 feet south will pick up 5 feet and give a 15 foot sideyard between the parking lot and north property Zine and allow a 5 foot concrete curb or sidewalk between the parking lot and building. r1r. Harris felt that all of the variances given in this area, espECially Block 7, was a horrible mess. He said variances were given for everything, ineluding 15 foot driveways. Tir. Boardman said no variances were given for 15 foot driveways. Mr. Lindblad asked about the landscaping plan. r1r. Harris said the two trees on the norti� side will possibly have to be removed, but he will try his best to keep them. P1r. Harris also said he would like :to place a fence along Main Street and 78th Way to screen the parking area from public right-of-way. � �o BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCONIMITTEE MEETING OF MAY 28, 1974-PG.2 Mr. Boardman said he would prefer to see some berming in the planting area ^• if possible. He said they had gone with the berming because it is easier to maintain and it brings in a greener look to a commercial area which has a con- siderable amount of blacktop surface seen from the public right-of-way. b1r. Harris said that he would put the berming in but would not remove any trees to do it.'Mr. Boardman said he definitely felt the same way about the existing trees and that any berming could be worked around the trees. Mr. Harris said he would like a joint driveway on the west side with Paco Masonry as this will help solve problems on the driveway and parking for both sites. This is the reason they show it on the plans as blacktop, since before any decision is made as to the material that should be used in.this area the Paco plans for the building they will be presenting must be reviewed first. �Mr. Harris said he objected to wood chips.on the west side a1so. He�said it would interfere with his drainage plan and he would prefer to blacktop the area. r7r. Boardman said to leave this until Paco decides what they are going to do. He also asked if there would be poured concrete curbing along the north side of the building. r�ir. Harris said no, precas� would be used,due to drainage reasons. b4r. Lindblad said they have required poured concrete curbing since 1969. i�4r. Harris said according to Code he can use precast curbing. Mr. Boardman said the Board can recommend to Council that poured concrete curbing be used or a sidewalk placed in`this area. ^ .It was pointed out that if the building was moved 10 feet south, it will � give a larger radius on the north front entrance and two 25 foot driveways on the front loading doors. However this would create a very tight;radius on the south front ent;.ance. It was decided to go with a joint driveway on � the south side, eliminating the front south entrance and allowing the area to the south of the building to be completely fenced in. P4r. Harris said large equipment would be stored here. The exterior will be painted break-off block and smooth surface black with no joints. Painted block will l�e used on the west and south elevations with split face on the north elevation. The Board asked that two different colors be used on the front elevation to give a more contrasting appearance. Pi0TI0N by Treuenfels, seconded by Simoneau to recommend to Council approval of the building with the following stipulations: 1. Move the b uilding 10 feet south. 2. Berming to be used to screen parking area making allowance for existing trees. 3. A letter stating an agreement between Harris and Paco for a joint driveway on the west side. 4. Finishing of west side be completed after Paco decides what they are � going to do with their land. �i BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOTM�IITTEE MEETING OF MAY 28, 1974-PG.3 5. Common driveway be made on the south side. � 6. Two colors be used on the front elevation. 7, Landscaping plan be followed as presented. 8. The Board recommends to Council that either poured concrete curbing or a sidewalk be used along the north side of the building. UPON A VQICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 2, RECONSIDERATION OF A REOUEST TO CO?1STRUCT AN APARTP�?Ei�IT COi,'IPLEX: LOCATED Qid TfiE SGUTH 698 FLLT OF THE ivORT'I� 1056 FEET OF T�?E �'dEST 385 FEET OF TfiE E��ST N:�Ll� OF TH� N�RT�:EAST QUARTER OF TrE 50liTH- , tY�ST QUARTER OF SECTIQ�T 14, T-�0, R-24,; THE S?.�'�IE BEINu b451- STH� STREI�I' NORTI�EAST, FRIDLLY, �iINi1ES�JTA. (Rt�UEST �Y SVALL CORPOR:'�TION, �5220 NOti'•lA:'�DALE ROaD, BLOO��IINGTG:1, :�:Iivitir�GTA.) 1VALL IS CO�IIi�G �3EFOR:: TiiIS �OARD FOR A ivElV SITE PLAi1 A: PROVAL.. Mr. Rudolph Dante, Mr. Frank Reese and Mr. Geor�e Kieffer were present far the request. . Mr. Reese said after soil boring tests were made for the proposed site it was discovered that it would be extremely costly to build the complex here. Therefore, they came up with this plan, a squared off "U" shape with the , swimming pool and putting green in the center will he used. The �uilding will � will be moved closer to 5th Street. i�ir. Dante said they felt this would be a much b etter site plan as it eliminated the retaining wall on the property line between L�Vall and the library (a natural green slope will be used instead) and also eliminates the driveway and fence running along the south side between the R-1 lots. Mr. Reese said there will be a bridge going over a small man-made po�ad leading to the front entrance, giving a very attractive and interesting appearance. Mr. Dante said this theme would be carried on into the front lobby . Mr. Simoneau asked if the new plan would increase the size of the smallest appartments: Mr. Dante said the three in each inside corner would be increased and they had dropped the number of efficiences from 60 to 30 units. Mr. Simoneau asked if the R-1 lots would be sold to one cDntract or. Mr. Dante said yes. , Mr. Lindblad asked how they would get from the parking areas to the apartment. Mr. Darite said there is a walk down the side of the garages with 2 doors leading from the garages up to the apartment, plus a sidewalk Ieading from the center of the parking lot to a side entrance in the complex. ' There will be no changes in lighting, building design, landscaping, etc. . Mr. Lindblad asked that it b�e stipulated that two tennis courts bs provided � in lieu of escrow for the park property for the R-3 property. �� BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF MAY 28, 1974-PG. 4 MOTION by Simoneau, seconded by Treuenfels to recommend to Council ,� approval of the site plan with the following stipulations: 1. Two tennis courts be provided in lieu of the escrow for the park property �or the R-3 area. Mr. Lindblad also added that all stipulations imposed at the February 7, 1974 meeting be stipulated again. The�- are: 2. Landscaping plan be brought to this Board before finalizing it on the deveiopment. 3. Lightirig plan be brought to this Board before finalizing it on the development. 4. Drainage plan be used as set up by the Engineering Department. 5. If a future storm sewer system is needed to drain this area adequately, Wall Corporation will pay their fair share. 6. Parking stall sizes and amount needed comply with the.Board of � Appeals decision. 7. Scxeened garbage areas will provide room for fire truck access. 8. Parking will be 5 feet off of the garage, separation made by a � poured concrete curb, 6" x 18", area between the curb and b uilding will have a low maintenance material. 9 Planting used for a buffer on the south side to provide complete screening for the R-1 property. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. �_ CONSIDERATION OF A ST TO ALLO�V REA40DELING CF THE BUILDING USED AS A CUidVii�IENCE STORE A:1D G:�SQLINE SALES: LOC;a"l��ll CK 10, �UDI'1'GR' S SU3DIVISION N0. 23 R}:�/ISED; 'I'HE Sr�'�IE 6485 EAST RI�'I:R 20AD, '.�]2IF3LEY, �;I.�ti�SOTA. (REQUEST BY �' njT rnnpnr.nT�rt��•a :1�nn tti'T?ST 7hTH ST<<EET. cDIi1A. 'iI.'vN.) Mr. Vincent Weis and Mr. Don Heistechamp were present for the request. Mr. Weis said they will be converting the lubricating bays into a fast food market and still keep the pumps. He said the one overhead door will be glassed in and ari entrance door for the store will be placed here. The middle overhead door will be disconnected also and enclosed to look like a store front window. The third overhead door will be boarded up and enclosed on the inside for cold storage. P4r. Weis said the inside will be paneled and shelves brought in. � Mr. Lindblad asked if the plot plan was alright. Mr. r4attson said yes. � � Mr. Heistechamp said any updating of landscaping would be done at this time. Mr. Lindblad also asked that any item that should be brought up to code, should be checked by the City staff and done at this time. � - � � � �3 BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF MAY 28, 1974-PG.S MOTION by Simoneau, seconded by Treuenfels to recommend to Council /� approval of the remodeling with the following stipulations: ,1. Any new landscaping n:eded, be done now. 2. An•y items needed to be brought up to code, be done now. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 4, CO�VSIDERATIOV OF A REQiJEST TO CONSTRUCT A NEtV BUILDING T0�•BE USED AS A�IACIIItiE SIiuP i�;ITH OFFICE �1REa: LOCATED ON : LOT N0. 7, }3LOCK 3, i::1ST R:INCEI ESTr�TES 2:'�D ADDITIQ:�1; THE �A:�IE BEI�G 7835 DIAIV STREET `+ORTHE,4ST, FRIDLEY, I�IINNESOTA. (REQUEST BY PERCY E. 'I'AYLOR-TAL00, INC. , �b01 siZD STREET ;IORTtiEAST, � hiINNf:APOLIS, i�11.��:�SOT:�) . Mr. Janis Blumentals and Mr. Phil Johnson were present for the request. Mr. Blumentals said the building wi11 be raised considerably to allow . for the four foot loading dock and allow the drainage of the area. He said � berming will be done in the front with an extensive area in front of the loading dock for screening purposes. Mr. Lindblad asked about parking requirements and curbing. P1r. Blumentals said they had enough stalls and poured concrete curbing will be used around the entire parking area. �1 " � � 'Refuse will be stored inside. Mr. Lindblad said a security light plan should be brought in for Council � approval and any roof equipment must be screened. The area to the north and east will be sodded. The Board felt the land- scaping plan as present was aceeptable. Mrs. Treuenfels asked if perhaps a � • few more trees could be planted; i.e. along the rear. P4r. Boardman said these trees would be wasted, but perhpas one more tree, flowering crab,,could be placed on the south side of the driveway. The Board �oncurred with this. Mr. Lindblad asked if the color scheme as shown would be the one used. Mr. Blumentals said he had not shown it to his client yet, but felt the color scheme would be ve�y close, if r.ot the same. Mr. Blumentals.said he had followed the ideas of his client and felt this would be what he wanted. A4r. Boardman asked if the windows would be tinted, especially since they face the west side. P9r. Blumentals said this could be done. MOTION by Treuenfels, seconded by Simoneau to recommend to Council approval of the building with the following stipulations: 1. Security light plan brou.ght in for Council approval. /1, 2. Any roof equipment be screened. 3. Flowering crab tree be added to the landscaping plan. Landscaping plan otherwise approved. �� r''� ^ �� BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING -0F MAY 28, 1974-PG.6 4. Color scheme be the same or very close as shown this evening. S. Tinted windows be used, especially o.n the west side. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 5, CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT A BUILDING FOR SALT S'I'OP.i1G�: i3OCA'I'f:D ON TIlL EAST SIDL OF THE �IISSISSIPPI RIVER ANU SOUCH UF I-694, 11IGHiVAY RIGEIT-UF-IV:�Y. (P.EQUEST BY MINNESOTA IiIG'riWAY llE:PARTJIE�IT DISTRICI' S, 2055 NORT(f LILAC DItIVI:, GOLDEN VALLI:Y, ,1L`vNESOTA) . 'I'HIS I1'L�i G'�`AS E3EFCi:E T'IIIS 130[�E'.D ON DIA`�' 9, 1974, TEIE BUILDI;�G D�SIGN 1iAS f3EEV CHt�yGED. Mr. Joe1 Katz was present for the request. . Mr. Katz said the design has been changed from the dome shape design because bid prices came in too high for the dome shape. He sai_d the building site will be moved 40 feet north th an what was shown at the May 9, 1974 meeting. It will be constructed of treated timbers with as asph alt b ase. The timbers are treated with either creosote ox a green stain. The Bo�.rd decided the green stain would look better. Mr. Boardman asked if the Minnesota Highway Department could relocate this site to perhaps Highway #65 and 10, Spring Lake Park. Mr. Katz said they run the trucks on two hour cycles during a storm and this site serves I-694, Highways 65, 47, and 169. In order to keep the two hour cycles, they would have to add three trucks and 7z men, this would be economically unfeasible. Mr. Boardman asked if the 2 sheds,which will be about 60 feet north of this building�are needed. Mr. Katz said no, they have no equipment �torage here. D1r. Boardman asked that it be stipulated that these building be removed. I�Ir. Katz agreed to this . Mr. Boardman sai 3 this item will have to go to the Pollution Control Agency to comply with all of their stipulations. Mr. Boardman also asked if this area could be developed for a picnic and boat landing area. He said this is one of the lowest points in Fridley and ideal for a boat landing. D1r. Katz said he could not give a final answer on this since there could be a question.of using state land bought for storage use and being used as recreational land. Mr. Boardman said Council will definitely question this and they would like to see the State develop this for multi-purpose use. Mr. Boardman said an agreement should be worked out between the State and the City. He also asked that a final plot plan be brought in for Council approval. Mr. Lindblad asked if this should not be recommended by Council to go to . � the Environmental Quality Council. Mr. Boardman said the EQC does not have any defini�te guidelines as of yet. The Board felt this was a good item to be sent � to them to help them set some type of guidelines. •.�� BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF MAY 28, 1974-PG.7 MOTION by Simoneau, seconded by Treuenfels to recommend to Council approval � of the salt shed with the following stipulations: 1. Green stain be used on the exterior. 2. Lanscaping plan as presented at the May 9, 1974 meeting be used 3. The 2 sheds be removed from the site. 4. Final plot plan be brought in�for Council approval. 5. Council work up an agreement with the Minnesota Highway Department stating ei�her they provide an area for multi-recreational use to provide an access to' an area of such use. 6. This Board recommends to Council that they recommend that this item go before the EQC. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all vo�ing aye, the motion carried unanimoulsy. ' � 6. CONSTDERATION OF A REQUEST TO APPROVE THE PARKING LOT LAYOUT: LOCATED ON AUDI`I'Oi2'S SUBDIVISIO� N0. 94, P:\RCi.�L 1�100; TIfE Sr1��tE BEING 5351 CE`ITR�1L AVENUE NOR'I'fiEAS'f, FRIDLEY, ; IINNESOT�. (f2EQUEST BY SPi�.RTAN-�TLANTIC CORP. ) Mr. Thomas Daley and Mr. Ernie Vangel were,present for the request. l"� Mr. Daley explained that this building is owned by a lease by Arlen Realy � Development of New York, New York. Mr. Boardman said the improvements will be only the exterior site and bringing the structure up to code. Any remodeling of the building will be the responsibility of the new lesee. Mr. Daley said he has talked to various City staff inembers and knows what • structure items have to be brought up to code; indoor sprinkler system, handi- cap facilities, etc. , He said new patch work and seal coating will be done on the parking lot, with code size parking stalls placed. Mr. Daley said the asphalt goes right up to the property line, so planters scattered throughout the parking lot will be used to give some greenery and break up the asphalt look. The area directly south of the building, once planned for future expansion, will be seeded. Mr. Lindblad asked about the rear property line. Pir. Daley said a fence will be place along here and quit at ab out the south side of the building. A9r. Boardman asked if they could continue the fence to the south property line as there is a problem with mini-bikes going up and down this hill. This would keep this problem offtheir land and help the newly seeded area grow. r4r. I,indblad asked if they would be widening the driveway to 25 feet and repairing the right-of-way. P1r. Daley said yes if they wanted it. r�r. Boardman �1 said they would be asked to do this. A9r. Boardman pointed out that there is asphalt curbing around the parking lot, but since no parking is done against it, it would not be detrimental to the lot and poured concrete curbing would not be required. .�� BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCONA4ITTEE MEETING OF MAY 28, 1974-PG.8 Mr. Lindblad said any roof equipment, present or future, must be screened. +� DfOTION by Treuenfels, seconded by Simoneau to recommend to Council approval of the site plan and structural updating with the following stipulations: 1. Fence along rear property line be extended to the�south property ling. 2. Driveway be widen ed to 25 feet, and the right-of-way improved. 3. All roof equip ment be screened, present and future. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye the motion carried unanimously. Ch.airman Lindblad adjourned the meeting at 10:15 p.m. � Respe fully submitted, � G2�%� %�� Paula R. Long, Secretary � �� OFFICIAL NOTICE CITY OF FRIDLEY PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION �� TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: � Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall�at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, June 5, 1974 in the Council Chamber at 8.QO P.M. for the purpose of: Consideration of amending Chapter 205, Section 205.051, . Paragraph 2, A. Accessory Uses, of the City Code of the City of Fridley. Chapter 205, Section 205.051, Paragraph 2, A, is hereby _. amended to read as follows: 2. Accessory Uses � A. Privat.e garages or oti�er accessory buildings. � Only one accessory building in excess of (betwe�n �Z� �-� . 0�� square feet p�r lo, t,,,E�with -sa � � additional accessory building in ex �'� � ��,�' (between , ''� a '_^ )�` square: feet�r�qui-ring a� �a special use �ermitY All accessory buildings � must be affixed to a permanent foundation. . 1 � �� . �. '-�� G��' ,,� ,,,�, �, � � � "� Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given the opportunity at the above stated ti.me and place. �, � EDWARD J. FITZPATRICK CHAI �2M�N PLANNING COMMISSION Publish: May'22, 1974 May 29, 1974 t � n � 1`� � � � . ' , �� . ORDINANCE N0. AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CFiAPTER 205, SECTION_205.051, PARAGRAPH 2, ACCLSSORY US�S, OF THE CITY CODE OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY - The City Council of the City of Fridley does ordain as follows: Chapter 205, Section 205.051, Paragraph 2, A, is hereby amend�d to read as follows: � 2. Accessory Uses � . . • A. .Private garages or other accessory buildings. Only one accessory building in excess of �'_� �� =� -� square teet per lot, with each additional accessory bui]:ding in excess of i%'-: �• �- -�-� square feet requiring a special use permit. All accessory buildings must be affixed to a permanent foundation. PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY THIS DAY OF ' � , 1974. MAYOR - FRANK G. LIEBL ATTEST: CTTY CLERK - D�RVIN C. BRUNSELL First Reading: _ Second Reading: Publication...: � /"� /'\ ^ �.... OI'FICII�L NOTICE CITY O1� FRIDL�Y PUBLIC IiE11RING B�I'OP..T TIIE � PLI�NNIt1G COTZMISSION �l'O C��IIOT�i TT P-I11Y CONCl;1�N : , Notice is hereby given 'Lh�t therc� will be a Fublic � Hearing of the Plar;ning Comn:i_ssion of th� Ci'cy af Friule�j i.n the City Hal1 a� 6�'r31 Uni.v!�rsity I�venue NO�l.11C�C1Jt o1.1 ��cdnesda�r, P�Zay 22, 1974 zt 8:U0 P.l�i. in the Council Cham}�er for the purpose of: A requesi� for a Specia 1 L1se Permit, SP_ #'14-10, by W. Red Stang, per I'ric3ley City Cod�, Sect.ion 205. _101, 3, N, to alloc�, �trailers, campers, mobile ho;nes, boats, . macl�.�.n.ery, sporting equipment and. like en�erprises hac�i.ng ii:s rac�rchandis� izl the open and not under the � covc�r of displ.ay sa]_esr_oom to be located an Lots 1 an.d ?., 131oc}> l, C. D. �-Iutchinson �c�c�ition, zon�a C-?_ �(g�erie.r_al busiri�ss areas} al1 lying in. the North Eiali � of Sec�tion l0, T-30, R-24, City of Fridleyt County of � Anoka, Mi.nnesota. Generally located at 7451 �ast River Roaci NeE. Any and all persons desiring to b� heaxd shUl.l b� given t}.ze opparLunity at the above si�a�ed i�ime and pl.ace. Publish: May 8, 1.97� � Ntay 15, 1974 EDWA}:D J. FI'1'ZPATRTCF: CHI�I I�T�tZ�N PL�INNING COi1��1ISSI0N . �� x Y • � � . � • . /'` ' � r r"� � cITY o�' �x1ot.�Y HIt1NESOTA �'I�1Nt��IdG A!dD ZQNxHC PORM . 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J t�~� . { ` < `�� 0 ` \ t � 4,1'� . � � � � �., • ` ` \ ; ii � �` \ '� 1, , . . ,. , . . �°t = , � . ' � � . : . . ,` . . -�.z-.„.....�.. . , �� A � r � /�1 T1Er10 `1'0: Nasim r1. Qureshi, City I�lanager ;IErtO FR0�9: Jerry BoardmaTi, Planning Assistant DATG: A9ay 29, 1974 SU13J}:CT: Flood Plai.n - Attached is a letter from the Department of Natural Resources requesting a change in our zoning map putting Chases Island in the CRP-1 (floodway) zone instead of the present CRP-2 (flood�plain) classifi.cation. � This change �Jill in no way effect the development � of the park for the recreation use proposed by the Islands of F'eace foundation. I am notifying the Planning Commission and the Islands of Peace foundation that this item will b e discussed at the Council meeting of Jwie 17, 1974. J�3/p 1 attach. Jerry Boardman �r . � r �� r�:'�_ E �',�`" " S7ATE OF � � `t�.J �t��J [� `' �� `l�� :�,�� 3 � ��► � �' 1�� a�i T .... xi�a' CENTENNIAL OFFICE Mr. Jerrold L. 33oardman Planning nssis.tant Ciiy of Fridley �i431 University Ave. NE Fridley, Aiinnesota 55421 Dear A�ir. Boardm� n: 0 �� A�'1��. EIUtLpING • ST. PAUL� b4ay 24, 1974 E��SC��JR��S MINNESOTA • 55155 RE: Fl.00d Plain Regulations �1 IVe have reviewed. t.he Zoning A�fap of the Ci�ty. of Pridley dated 3anuary 1�73 upon �vhich is indicated CRP-1 and CRP-2 Zories. This map is part of Orclinance No. 555 aclopted by the city in compliance with Alinnesota Statutes 1973, € 104. 04. After a review af the zoning map we believe the area designated as Chases Island, �.ncluded t41t}llll Lhe CRP-2 Zozie is incompatible wi�h the uses intended � for that.zone, as outla_ned �_n Ordinance No. 555. For that xeasan we recommend � the city cons�_der revising the Zoning Map to place Chases Island and the small islancl shown inunediately downstream in the CRP-1 Zane. I.f this action is taken please send to this office iwo copies of the amended zoning map. Jr�iV : bh /'� Sincerely, � �% ��%�j,'~'�� . %^�i �f�/ /`t �. �,1'�� ames Nt. lVright, Supervis�or . Flood Plain A1gmt. Unit � AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY �MPLOYER �. �Y � � �t �� ; i i , in , � i i } r � � E � � k � r t_ �. � . .�t�.��, �.,� .,. . �. ' \ � k � Y� i3 .i . F . 'x lA . :� `� : , _ ,�.°w� ,.. .� � _ , ,.� ,' � � , .��°� � uF � ti � tl � _; x � .:'�s :r�n�',�.:�,� �., t,a�� ' w.. � , +�,y "� ��s� ,�. �'� 3 � �� . ..:�x,a � ~� � ' . > � � _ , , r,�`' ,� � . Aes��i� e0o��: ��'�' � : �, �.��.��s�� .. �`��:� ��:� �� . �� , �`� � � '��" � �� , ,� �:,Jf i� ��:� �.�� ,�E:6.� BY PEfRCE F. LEV1/IS Professor �f Geography The Pennsylvania State University In the �ccompany��g article Peirc� Lewis draws on his �rofessional ar�� community experier��e to ��rite a4�og�� the problem of aesthe��e �+c�l8utiar�—�r� . often overio�►ked in todsr��'� environme�ital rhetorie. tr� a�t$i#i�n�� his academic posf a¢�d oti��° professional activi�ies. l.e�vis a�s�a serves as a men�ber c�f $he Siat� College planning corra�issi�n and a� a member ot the 6o�rd of Directo�s of the Pennsylvania ldaadside Cau�cii. Public Management/July 1970 In ehe recent concern over environmental pollution we � have g�tten two different issues badly mixed. On the one hand, we talk of environmental quality. iiowever, we are r,ot realiy talking about qual.ity, buY quantity—tons of particulate matter polluting the air, gallons of fecal material spilled into a stream, the number of cans and bottles which befoul a particular bit of roadside. We must solve these quantitative problems, or else; at the rate they are worsening, �ve will not survive. 6ut even if �ve do solve them—by eliminating emis- sions from the local power plant, by forcing the town upstream to submit their sewerage to tertiary treatment, by carrying all our offal to the local sanitary landfill, even if �ve shoot do�vn the S.S.T. and sl�arply constrain the use. and shipment of dangerous chemicals—even then we will not necessarily produce the "quality of 'environment" we talk so much about. If cleanliness is not enough, what else do we need? The answer to that question stems from the very nature of man, and man's differences from "!ower" animals. Man's ability to recognize, appreciate, and create beauty is one of the most important qualities which makes man more than just another animal. I do not suggest that sensitivity to beauty is the only quality that makes man hurnan, but I doubt �vhether man � can truly be called humane �a�ithout the capacity to love beauty and abhor ugliness. If this is true, then man needs a beautiful environment as badly as he needs a clean one, for if he cannot survive as an animal in the midst of filth, he cannot survive as an animal in the midst of unrelieved ugliness. Fortunately, we have not reached that wretched state as yet, but we are closer to it than we ought to be, and certainly closer than we were a short time ago. As with other kinds of pollution, the pollution of ugliness is not only getting worse, it is getting worse faster than at any time in h.uman history. Unhappily, the United States is in the fo.r.efront of this innovation. The sea of ugliness 4vl�ich engulfs us is a form of polfution which threatens the quality of our life just as air and �vater pollution threaten the presence of life itself. The only �vays that �ve can learn to tolerate mass ugliness is either to learn ta enjoy it, or learn to ignore it. Traditionally, hovvever, Americans do not like to talk about beauty or ugliness, and even the words themselves seem to make us nervous. The late Sena!or Kerr's sneer at "ass-thetics" is not atypical; and if we are to attack the growing ugliness of America's roads and cities, it wil) require a who�esale effort, involving both private citizens and government at all levels. ^ There is strong opposition to such an attack, however, and it is not restricted to self-serving oil lohbyists like Senator Kerr. The American refuctance to talk about � beauty and ugliness is very powerful, and although the roots of that reluctance are deeply buried in American r– �� history and are unconscious, there are rational grounds why environmental beauty is not a popular topic among American's politicians and civic leaders. It is worth ex- amining botFi the psychologica) and rational side, for un►ess we understand both, there is little hope of stem- ming the tide of ugliness. The reasons why government should not mount an attack on environmental ugliness are legion, but three. arguments tend to recur. None of them stands up well under scrutiny. • The first argument is based on aesthetic re{ativism, or "What's beautiful for you isn't necessarily beautifu( for me," or "My taste is just as good as yours," ar even more belligerentiy, "Who are you to tell me �vhat I should like?" What remains through all the arguments and hair- splitting, however, is the clearly recognized fact that some things are judged more beautiful than others, and that most people have no trouble identifying them. Examples make the point better than argument. It is plain fact that the entrances to most American towns are abarninably ugly, and I have yet to hear anyone but bill- board owners and Andy \Narhol argue otherwise. Over- head tangles of wires, gas stations plastered with paper signs and plastic streamers and blinking lights, auto grave- yards, fast-food stands and discount houses set in asphalt deserts, indiscriminate and indestructable litter-all of this is so repelling and dispiriting that any attempt to argue the point simply invites disgust. By contrast, the dappled shade of a tree-lined street in a Midwestern town in summer is beautiful—and there is no argument about that either. Ugliness and beauty in American towns and along American roads is seldom subtle, and one does not have to be a metaphysician to recagnize the difference. ■ Very often one encounters a person who will grant the ugliness of some places and the beauty of others, but, he will insist beauty is too costly—that it is an extravagance which we can ill afford, especially when compared with other pressing social needs. The argument seems even stronger when those needs are listed: the need to study and curtail drug abuse, to eliminate poverty, to help the disadvantaged. Ever present is the need to keep govern- ment costs down in an age � of inflation. The list is endless. This argument is excellent bui irrelevant. Beauty is not necessarily costly, as any competent architect or landscape designer will be glad to demanstrate. Undeni- ably, the wealthy sec:ions of American cities tend to be the most handsome parts, but the relationship is not a necessary one. In Europe, for example, some uf the I�veliest areas are the poorest. The breath-taki�g beauty of a Portuguese village with its red tile and whitewashed morkar results from the necessary economy and simplicity of poverty, and, lacking professional architects, a considerahle Public Management/)uly 1970 � ' 9 � � respect for tradition. Conversely, the weil-known beauty of the )apanese landscape has been severely mauled as a result ot recent prosperity. In America, however, "cheap" generally means "chintzy." Sometimes, of course, beauty is costly, but the short- run cost often pays off in the long run. Removal of bill- boards, for example, costs money but reduces traffic accidents. In such a case, the beauty of an unduttered roadside clearly pays and pays handsamely. The ugliness of noise pollution is just beginning to be studied, but we know that prolonged exposure to noise can produce men- tal illness. The highest costs of ugliness, ho�vever, show up in the palpable but unmeasured demoralizatian of people who live in ugly places and have given up hope of improving them. At the crassest level, of course, beauty is often profit- able since people will pay to come and see it. The mobs of visitors to our national parks prove the point amply, .and it is ironic that the commercial development at the gates of those parks ranks among the ugliest spots in the nation. The case for government taking a stand to defend and promote environmental beauty can best be made by driving from Gatlinburg, Tenn.—a monument to com- mercial avarice—across the boundary into the natural sereniry of Smoky Mountain National Park. But a town does not need a national park to attract visitors, and the native charm of many American towns can still be re- claimed if municipal officials will take forceful and intelli- gent steps to do so. The payoffs in commercial revenue and in I�igh community morale are both immediate and long-run. ■ The third and perhaps the commonest argument against government action to preserve beauty and combat ugli- ness is the simply stated: "Government should not try to dictate taste." This is not an argument at all, but a statement of opinion. In fact, government has interfered in personal taste and aesthetic judgment for as long as our nation has existed—and with continued public approval. Our schools teach children that liking Shakespeare is better than liking comic books, and that Beethoven is better than rock-and-roll. We may not always succeed in im- planting these ideas, but that does not stop us from trying to mold the taste of the young an�l—if adult education means anything at all—older falk as well. Our zoning (aws do the same thing, or try to. The official reason for banning billboards in residential neighborhoods is to protect "healtl�, safety, and welfare," but nobody is fooled by this legal mythology. In fact, our taste rebels at the thought of looking out of picture windows into an ad for depilatories or chewing tobacco, and� glue factories are barred from most towns simply because we don't like the way they smelf. It took the Suprerne Caurt until 1954 to endorse this view, but it is now law as the famous decision of f3erman 10 r t� � vs. Parker makes clear: "The concept of the public wel- fare is broad and inclusive ... The values it represents are spiritual as well as physical, aesthetic as well as monetary. It is avithin the power of the (egislature to determine that the community should be beautiful as well as healthy, spacious as well as clean, welf balanced as well as carefully patrolled." The reasons given for keeping government out of aesthetic matters do not hold much water. Unfortunately, . criticizing leaky arguments does only a limited amount of good. Tlie real reasons why many Americans are sus- picious of governmental intervention in aesthetic matters are not rational, but are deeply rooted in our national history and psychology. Most of our ancestors came to this country to win their freedom. The American success story can be ex- plained in many ways, but one of the most important was the presence of ample free land. The frontier mentality asserted and still asserts a man's right to do "anything he wants on his own property," and that is one of the main reasons why American zoning laws have never worked very well. This feeling about private property is not based on reason but on a deep intuitio�� that to own land is to be free. And because it is not a reasoned feeling, it is hard to approach on a rational basis. The frontier mentality also taught that action is superior to ideas. Thus, the buffalo hunter is held in higher esteem than the schoolmarm, and the engineer higher than the philosopher. "Don't talk to me about truth or goodness or beauty," says the frontiersman. "Do �some- thing!" Small vv�nder that the garden club has little influence over the state highway department, or that the owners of shopping centers are unmoved when to{d that their parking lots are eyesores. If something works, after all, it doesn't have to be pretty, and, in fact, a common American myth holds that one should be suspicious of things if they are too nice-looking, since such things are probably impractical and don't work very well. Again, such views are largely subliminal and hard to combat on rational grounds. America's traditional mobility also militates against beautiful environments. To be . sure, mobility won Americans economic freedom unimagined in less for- tunate lands. Agricultural feudalism and industrial peon- age, so common in Europe and Asia, were impossible in America, where a man could pick up his family and belongings and get out if he thought he could do better elsewhere. "Go wect, young man" was more than a catchy motto; it was a new declaration of independence—and it worked. But it worked also to remove Americans from any attachment to a particular piece of land, and hence any responsibility for keeping it beautiful. Why should one try to make one's town more beautiful (or less ugly) . Public Management/July 1970 � � � if one planned to move on in a year or so? Without tradi- tional restraint over the husbandry of land, and without any feeling of responsibility for it, we plowed, dug, littered, and made money, and when at last conditions (largely of our own making) had become intolerable we moved on to another place to repeat the process. In spite of the deep-rooted American antipathy for making aesthetic judgments, we are fated to live out our lives in an environment of ugliness. Happily, things are changing and changing rapidly. We are so used to heacing that we live in "an a�e of revolution" that we sometimes overlook the portent of that tired phrase. But some very basic American attitudes are shifting; indeed, the very swiftness causes us pain. And the American reluctance to talk about beauty and ugliness may also be coming to an end. This change in attitude can be converted to effective action if we only go about it in the right way. First, we need to recognize that ugliness is very much localized geographically, and that beautification need not be "nation-wide" since most of the nation is still beauti- ful. Although a roadside strip may be ugly, the country- side a few feet behind the strip is likely to remain hand- some in most parts. of the country. � We talk of "rotting cores" in our cities, but the phrase is often hyberbole. The rot in our cities occurs most often in places where land use is in flux—on the 6oundaries between functional zones where land is being held in speeulation for some new use, and buildings rot while speculators await their profits. Thus, the average central business district may be fairly sound, although the boundaries of the C.B.D. look terrible. Classically, the baundary zones of ghettos are much worse than the solidly settled cores ot the ghetto—although, of course, there are major exceptions to this generalization. Such statements, however, are only useful at a general (evel, and the best way for a town to find out where ugliness .occurs is for its concerned citizens to go out, (ook, and inventory the areas of special ugliness and special beauty. It is a useful exercise for a heretofore moribund garden club, or for a women's club that is looking for a way of contributing to the public welfare. for example, in rriy own town of State Colle�e, Pa., the borough council took the lead by appointing a seven- member appearance and design review board. This board, modelled after one which has operated for several years in Chapel Hill, N.C., includes representatives from various women's organizations and the borough planning com- mission, and is chaired by a widely-respected excouncil- man. Although the board has only advisory powers, it has helped to identify aesthetic trouble spots and to recom- mend improuements. The approach is soft-sell, and busi- nessmen with whom the board has worked have wel- corned their suggestions in designing and landscaping Public Management/)uly 1470 �� new buildings and streets. Although the board has only been in existence for a few months, it has already pro- duced marked improvements in one bad sector of the town, and has served to eneourage other citizens that you don't necessarily have to fight city hall. The board has recently begun to obtain help from the local branch of the American Association of University Women, which has appointed a committee on aesthetics and design. The committee is making an inventory of trouble areas for the use of the borough board. Although the inventory is expected to be useful, an unexpected side-benefit has been to im�olve a group of intelligent and dedicated women in municipal government, and to give them hope that we need not resign ourselves to an atmosphere of ugliness. Even more fruitful, th� women have deliberately gone out into the town to look at areas that they otherwise would seldom frequent. To spread the word, the committee has arranged to show films at the local library, making use of the mag- nificent footage of the American Institute of Architects (among others), and, with the- help of the borough manager, is arranging bus and walking tours to show other citizens where local aesthetic trouble lies. Beauty is good business, and it is sometimes good po!itics as well. One final example from State College helps make the point. Two years ago, a Pennsylvania highway department plan to widen one of the town's older residential streets called for cutting down several blocks of mature shade trees to make room for heavy traffic. A storm of public outrage extracted some con- cessions from the highway department and the municipal council, but a good many citizens remained unmollified. In the next municipal election in November, 1969— an event usually marked by good manners, a lack of issues, and com�lete one-party� dominance—a member of the minority, James McClure, was thumpingly elected to a seat on the council on what he called "an environ- mental platform." McGlure's election resulted partly from his native eloquence (he is a forceful public speaker), partly from a stinging cartoon which he drew himself and used as the centerpiece of his campaign, but mainly because of overwhelming bipartisan support for a man who stood up and said, without apology or embarrassment, that he was opposed to the increased uglification of the town, and regarded beauty as a necessary ingredient in any civilized and balanced environment. The election of )ames McClure is not an isolated event. Across the nation we are beginning at last to realize that beauty is not something that we can take or leave— that ugliness is a form of pollution both costly and demoralizing. Perhaps Americans have at tast seen that beauty is not a dispensible luxury, but an essential ele- ment of the environment if man hopes to survive as a civilized and humane creature. . ❑ 11