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PL 10/23/1974 - 7497CITY OF FRIDLEY , .^ :� . A G E N D A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 23, 1974 8:00 P.M. CALL TO ORDER: PAGES ROLL CALL: APPROVE PLANNING CONiMISSION MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 25, 1974 1- 10 APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTESt OCTOBER 9, 1974 �l RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEE 12 - 25 MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 23, 1974 RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE 26 -�g MINUTES: OCTOBER 10, 1974 RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: OCTOBER 3U - 39 15, 1974 RECEIVE PLATS & SUBDIVISIONS-STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCOM- 40 - 46 ,^ MITTEE MINUTES: OCTOBER 10, 1974 RECEIVE MEMO FROM DAN HUFF, NATURALIST/RESOURCE CO- 47 �� QRDINATOR l. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED PRELIM- 48 - 54 �NARY PLAT, P.S. #74--D6, ZANDER'S 1ST ADDITION, BY DAILEY HOMES, INC.: A replat of Lot 3, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, except the North 169 feet of the 4 West 164 feet thereof, generally located South of 61st Avenue N.E., between Benjamin & Mc Kinley Street , . N.E. 2. CONSIDERATION OF A VACATION REQUEST: SAV #74-04, BY 55 - 63 JERRY GUIMONT: Vacate that portion of a 15 foot - utility easement needed for a 30' x 24' addition to an existing garage, located on Lot 12, Block 5, Rice Cree;t Plaza South Addition, the'same being 6551 2nd Street N.E. /g`' j� �YC1 �� , � �� i 11/ " � , � �� ti� � �� .� ✓' 'y �s�. . . � �� r � . `'..� � � . ..� . � � . �� .� �� . � . � � � � � � � �� . � . � � � � . . . .. . . � � � . � . � ^ PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - September 25, 1974 Page 2 ° RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL`QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: AUGUST 27, 1974 Mr. Drigans said there is discussion in these minutes about the Shade Tree Ordinance. He asked Mr. Clark if he knew haw this program was progressing and how many trees have been removed. Mr. � Clark said he knew ther� were about 800 trees involved. There are � two steps in removing these trees. First there has to be a deep � trench made around the tree and later, the removal of the tree. He ` said he didn't know how many trees have already been removed, but � he understood the City was getting good cooperation from the property ' owners. Mr. Huff would be making follow-up,s on all the orders for removal, t MQTION by Karris, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission receive �the minutes of the August 27, 1974 meefing of the Environmental Qua.Zit� Commission. Upon a voice vote, al.l voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. l. CONTTNUEDc PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A REZONING REQUEST, ZnA #74-04, BY HENRY F. BiUHICH: To rezone Lots 11-21 and Lots 28- 37, B1ock 4, Spring Brook Park Addition, from M-1 (light industrial ; areas) to R-1 (single family dwelling areas) to allow the moving in of a single family dwelling on Lots 31 and 32, Block 4, Spring Brook Park Addition, generally located between 79th Avenue N.E. . and Longfellow Street, and Ashton Avenue and the railroad tracks. Mr. Henry Muhich was present. Public Hearing open. Chairman Fitzpatrick said .that one of the reaeons this request had been continued was to give Mr. Muhich the opportunity to circulate a petition to be signed by the affected property owners. Mr. Muhich said he had the Petition and it was signed by seven of the eight property owners. The only one who did not join in this � request was Mr. Leonard Benson� 154 Longfellow Street N.E., owner of Lots 36, 37, and 38, Block 4, Sprinq Brook Addition, who had stated at the last meeting that he was opposed to having his property rezoned. Mr. Muhich said one property owner lives in Chicago, but he had sent a letter, which was included with the petition. _ MOTIDN by Harris, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission receive Petition No. I6-1974, which includes the attached letter, which wa-s siqned by seven of the eight propert� owners of Lots 11-2I, and�!Lots 28-37, Block 4, Spring Brook Park Addition, requesting that their property be rezoned from M-1 (light industrial areas) to R-1 (single family dwelling areas). Upon a voice vote, a1Z voting aye, the motion carrzed unanimously. _. Mr. Drigans said the owner of Lots 36, 37 and 38 has one residential� � lot and�.two M-1 lots. Why is he opposed to this request? j Chairman Fitzpatrick said Mr. �ienson had stated at the lawt meeting that he had purposely bought this property because in was zoned M-1. At some later date, he would like to have a business in his garage, such r� �1 Planning'Commission Meeting - September 25, 1974 Page 3 as a cabinet shop, which he couldn't do if his property was rezoned to R-l. This garage is in the present M-1 zoning, and his house is on lots that are half R-1 and half M-l. Mr. Muhich said he had contacted the owners of 66 lots of the 72 lots invol.ved within the 300 foot radius of this request, and the only objection he had to this rezoning was Mr. Bensons. Mr. Drigans asked Mr. Muhich the purpose of this rezoning request. Mr. Muhich said he wanted to move a house onto the two lots he owned. Chairman Fitzpatrick said that since 1969, we haven't allowed any R-1 use of industrial property. It was allowed before that. Mr. Drigans asked if this area was zoned R-1, how many sites would be left to build homes on.'- Mr. Clark said that with Mr. Muhich's property, there would be four sites left. � Mr. Drigans asked why it was disallowed to let an R-1 dwelling I to be built in an area like this. Mr. Clark said it was the feeling that if you have commercially zoned property, commercial should be built there, and if. its zoned industrial, it should be built industrial. ' This was to prevent the intermixing of residential with commercial and industrial property. Mr. Fitzpatrick said that prior to 1969, it was felt that you couldn't build up in a zoning district, but yau could build down. R-1 was allowed in any district, for instance.. Mr. Harris said if he read the code right, Mr. Muhich could put this house on his property with a Special Use Permit, as an alternate - to rezoning. Mr. Drigans said there wasn't much you could do industriall�r in this area with the property that was still vacant. Mr. Robert Welch, 144 Longfellow Street N.E., said he lived next doar to the property Mr, Muhzch owned, and he would much rather have a house go in there than any industrial development. Mrs. Cyril Paulson, 131 79th Way N.E., said they have lived at this addess since June 3, 1960, and when they purchased the property they had no idea their property was zoned M-l. Sh� said it was her understanding that if this house was over 50% damaged by fire oi wind or by some other means, tha� it could not be rebuilt in the present zoning. She said they wanted to continue to livE in this house for some time, and to protect themselves, they"were in favor of rezoning their property to R-1. Mr. Drigans asked Mr. Benson how long he had lived at 154 Longfellow Street? Mr. Benson said it would be three years in October. Mr. Drigans asked the size of his garage and what he used it for now, Mr. Benson said it was 24' by 22' and he used it to store his truck, snow- mobile, saws and other toals. Mr. Drigans asked him if he was a cabinet maker. He said he wasn't, he was in the construction business. Mr. Muhich asked him wilat �hase of the construction business he was in. Mr. Benson said he worked in concrete and masonry and did some carpenter work. � ,�4; . � � � ^ Planning Commission Meeting - September 25, 1974 Page 4 Mr. Drigans wondered about having a small business in an area that has a residential atmosphere. Mr.. Benson said there was a machine shop right across the street, so he didn't think his wanting to use his garage for a business was. going to make that much difference. Mr. Drigans asked Mr. Benson if he built his house or purchased it after it was built. Mr. Benson said the house was already there when he purchased it, and one of the main reasons he bought this house was because it was zoned M-1: He was looking for a house that wasn`t in residential zoning, and this was just what he wanted. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark what the City's policy would be in rezoning property against the property owner's will. Mr. Clark said he didn't think this had been done. He would assume it could be done, but the property owner could take it to court and whether this would stand up there, or not, he didn't know. Mr. Drigans wondered if a Special Use Permit could be granted to Mr. B�nson so he could have this business in his garage if his property was rezoned. Mr. Harris said we don't have a request for this. Mr. Lindblad asked if Mr. Benson could meet the requirements for a business in his garage if this area stayed M-l. Mr. Clark said he would meet the requirements under M-1 zoning. If the rest of the block was rezoned to R-1, he wouldn't meet the setback requirement of 15 feet, but as this is an existing structure, this wouldn't be necessary. Mr. Clark said that according to the zoning code, if Mr. Benson's property stayed M-1 and the balance of the block was rezaned to R--1, if Mr. Benson's property was destroyed, he wouldn't be able to meet the 50 foot setback requirement for M-1 zoning from R-1 property, so he wouldn't be able to rebuild his home, or industrial, without rezoning or with a variance. He said that from a planning standpoint, it would be better to have the entire block all rezoned ratYier than leave two lots M-1. Mr. Harris said that was why he felt thatleaving these two lots M-1 wouldn't create any problems, because this situation could resolve itself in time.: Mr. Clark said he has stated before that he thought Mr. Benson could have a cabinet shop or other business in his garage as long as his property is zoned M-1. He said he hadn't been able to check this out �vith the City Attorney. There might be something in the code � that says when the principal use of the property is residential, you can't use the garage as industrial property, but this would have to be checked out. Mr. Harris said he personally is aqainst rezoning any property against-�he owner`s will. Mr. Fitzpatrick said this request was originated by a private party for rezoning �his area, and was not initiated by the City for public purposes. This makes�a difference �.1so. Mr. Harris said we have a petition signed by al1 the owners of thi s property, except the property owned by Mr. Benson. This tells me that all the other property owners want their property rezoned to R-l. Mr. Drigans said the Public Hearing notice includes all the M-1 �� ^ ^ Planning Commission Meeting - September 25, 1974 Page 5 property in this Block 4, and he daesn't understan� :`�ow Mr. Benson's property could have been included in this request, :.�hen he doesn't want the rezoning. Mr. Clark said that when Mr. M��ich wanted to rezone the two lots he owns�, it was felt that as the entire neighborhood was residential, we would set up the Public Hearing for the entire M-1 area. Mr. Muhich went out and talked to everyone in this area, and found out that they were all in favor of this rezoning, except for Mr. Benson. That was the purpose of the Public Hea�ing. When Mr. Benson voiced his objection at the first meeting, was when the Pl.anning Commission asked for a petition on this request, to make sure that all the affected property owners were aware of the rezoning con- sideration. At this Public Hearing, Mr. Benson stated his objections to having his property rezoned: -Mr. Clark said that if Mr. Muhich would have asked for rezoning on just the two lots he owned, that would have really been spot rezoning, which isn't very desirable either. Chairman Fitzpatrick said what we have in effect is a request for rezoning from all the"property owners with the exception of Mr. Benson. Mr. Lindblad asked if Mr. Benson could add on to his house or garage as long as his property was zoned M-1? Mr. Clark said he couldn't add on to the house, except he could make the inside more livable, and if he wanted to add on to the garage, this would require a variance, because the present garage is closer than 15 feet from the property 1ine. � Mr. Harris asked Mr. Muhich if he had any pictures of the house he wanted to move in�o Fridley. Mr. Muhich presented the pictures. Mr. Clark said this has been approved by the Building Standards-Design Control Subcommittee, subject to the rezoning being app�oved. Mr. Harris said he thaught this house would fit in quite well in this�area, Chairman Fitzpatrick said that he felt that Mr. Benson's paint that his property had some industrial use, was a legitimate one. Mr. Harris said it is his proper.ty, and he did buy it because it was zoned M-l. Mr. Fitzpatrick said he agreed with Mr. Harris, that he didn't want ta recommend rezoning on any property against the wishes of the owner under these circumstances. MOTION by Harris, secanded .�y Lindblad, that the Planning Commission close the Public Hearing on the rezoning request, ZOA #74-04, by Henry F. Muhich. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unan- imous2y. ' Mr. Drigans said that if we rezone Mr. Benson's property, we are denying him the use for which he has stated he bought this particu� lar property. As the other property owners want their property rezoned, he said he would agree with Mr. Harris, that at some time in the future, leaving these two lots as M-1 will resolve itself. Mr. Harris said that what it amount to is that we are changing the aoning on all the property except Mr. Benson's, which will stay the . same. � � Planning Commission Meeting - September 25, 1974 Page�6 Mr. Clark said that by. rezoning Block 4 to all R-1, it would change the requirements on the industrial business across the street. If they want to do any more building, they will have to maintain a 100 foot setback or acquire variances. Mr. Drigans said this would be necessany whether they rezone alZ Block 4 to R-1, or rezone it all except Mr. Bensons,. MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by Drigans, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council approvaZ of the rezoning request, ZOA #74-04, by Henry F. Muhich, to rezone Lots 11 - 21 and Lots 28 - 35 (this excludes Lots 36 a�d 37) B1ock 4, Spring Broak Park Addition, from M-1.(light industrial areas) to R-1 (sing�e family dwelling areas), generally located between 79th Avenue N.E. and Longfellow Street, and Ashton Avenue and the railroad tracks. Upon a voice vote, a.Z1 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Drigans said he didn't want this to be a stipulation, but - he would not want to see Mr. Benson's garage enlarged for anything " more than such a business as a cabinet shop. 2. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #74-14, BY MICHAEL B. ROTTER: Per FridZey City Code, Section 205.102, 3, N, to permit.Mabile Home Sales in a C-2S " District, to be located on the�Westerly 329.3 feet of part of the Southeast Quarter of the Northwest Quarter of Section 12, (Parcel 4780}, the same being 73.55 Highway #65 N.E. ^ Mr. Michael Rotter was present. MOTION by Harris, seconded b�'Drigans, that the Planning Commission waive the reading of the Public Hearing Notice for the request for a Special Use Permit, SP #74-14, by Michael Rotter. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimous.Zy. Mr. Rotter said he was asking for this Special Use Permit so he could have a mobile home sales business. Mr. Clark said this will be Iocated in the same area where a special use permit had been granted � to American Auto Listinqs last year. Mr. Fitzpatrick said if there was an area in Fridley where such businesses could be allowed, it would be in this area, but all mobile home sales require a Special Use Permit. . Mr. Rotter presented a plo t plan to the Planning Commission showing how the trailers would be placed on the lot and where the office would be located. Chairman Fitzpatrick asked Mr. Rotter if he operated a mobile home sales'business anywhere else. Mr. Rotter said he didn't. Mr. Fitzpat- rick asked if he was working for a company that did. Mr. Rotter "said he had been in this business for six years. At present he was working for Patti Homes and Previously had worked for Castle Mobile Homes. � . Mr. Harris asked if the office would.be a permanent structure�. Mr. Rotter said it will be a double trailer, set up on blocks and skirted . � ^ � Planning Commission Meeting - September 25, 1974 Page 7 as a permanent structure. . Mr. Harris said he understood that �ewer and water were already available on this property. Mr. Drigans asked if this office was in the same location where American Auto Listings had theirs. Mr. Rotter said no, it would have to be extended over to his office location. Mr. Rotter said he will have seven mobile homes on the site. He planned to have them eight feet apart, but has room to make them l0 feet apart, if necessary. He said the office will be 24' x 36'. Everything within the dotted line will be blacktopped. He said he would have crushed rock under the trailers, because they damage blacktop if they are stored on it. He said they have a tendency to sink, so this is why crushed rock is used. Mr. Drigans asked Mr. Rotter what kind of arrangements he had made with'�.the property owner, would this be a lease or would he be buying the property? Mr. Rotter said he thought it would be a lease with option to buy, but they haven't even discussed the lease as yet. He wanted to wait and see if this Special Use Permit would be approv�d, and what stipulations would be put on it. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked if this special use was approved, how long a lease would he be looking for. Mr. Rotter said he thought for - about three years. He said he didn't plan to start up this business until spring; because money was tight, and he knew the winter months were bad months for this business, from experience. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Rotter if he had a copy of the agreement that had been drawn up between the City and another operator of a mobile home sales. Mr. Rotter said he did. This agreement for the mobile home sales lot at 7151 Highway #65 was discussed by members of the Planning Commission and the peti�ion�r,and from this discussian the stipualations for this special use permit were determined. Some of the members questioned having a yearly review of this permit. Mr. Clark said that Mr. Rotter would be expected to spend a lot of money tor the blacktop area, and he wouldn't feel like making a big capitol investment if this permit could be revoked in one year. He thought the term of his lease or three years would be fairer to the petitioner. Mr. Harris said that this Special Use Permit could start from the time the petitioner signs the lease or purchase agreement, whieh ever he has. Mr. Drigans said he wanted this 5pecial Use Permit tied to the lease or subject to review in three years, which ever was the shortest length%of time. Mr. Rotter said he had no objection to this. MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission close the Public Hearing on the request for a Specia.l Use Permit, SP #74=14, by Michae.Z Rotter. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. �. I� -' � Planning Commission Meeting - September 25, 1974 'Page 8 _ � MOTION by:Lindblad, seconded by.Harris, that the Planning Commission � recommend to Council, approval of the request for a Special Use Permit, { � SP #74-14, by Michael B. Rotter, �er Fridley City Code, Section 205.z02, 3, N, to permit Mobile Home Sa1es in a C-25 District, to be located on the Westerly 329.3 feet of part of the 5outheast Quarter of the Northwest Quarter of Section 12 (Parcel 4780), the same being 7355 Highway #65 N.E., with the following stipulations: 1. A Special Use Permit to operate a mobile home sales lot is given only to Michael B. Rotter as an individual and he wi11'� be the operator of the business. If the business changes hands or he no longer is majority owner and operator of the business, the permit wi11 be nu11 and void, and would have to be reviecaed by the Cit� Council before transfer. 2. The office traiZer wi1l be blocked on concrete blocks and the base wi11 be skirted with aluminum. The office wi11 be con- nected to utilities; such as, r�ater, sewer, gas and electricity. 3. Two restrooms wi11 be installed in the office for the public`s use. ' • 4. The office trai:Zer to be taxed as a permanent structure. 5. There wi11 be no permanent residents in the mobile homes and no repairing or.storage of damaged trailers. ^ 6. There wi11 be a minimum of 10 feet of space between the trailers. � 7. The public and employee park�ng 1ot area to be blacktopped by October 1, 1975. S. Provide a screening fence along the North property 1ine. - Precast curb wi11 be put along the entrance and along the parking area for customers. 9. The land wi11 be kept clean and free of debris, junk and unsightly materials, and a1I green areas wiZl be kept free of weeds,cut and weZ1 groomed. 10. There wi1Z be no washouts on the property due to surface drainage and if ther.e are an�, these wi.Z1 be filled and taken care of immediately. 11: Lighting, Zandscaping, and plot plan be approved by the Building Standards-Design Control SubcommitL-ee. ZZ. AI1 signs wi11 comply with the requirements of the Sign Ordinance. 13. This Special Use Permit be issued for a maximum of three years ^ or to run concurrently wzth the lease, which ever is Iess. UPON a voice vote,�a11 voting aye, the.motion carried unanimous.Iy. - �"''' i; Planning Commission Meeting - September 25, 1974 Page 9 , i ^ Mr. Drigans asked N'r. Clark what method the City used to check ' out stipul�tions to see that they are complied with. Mr. Li�ndblad said there was usual��i � performance bond requested to insure that every'thing would be done. Mr. Drigans said that answered his question. 3: DISCUSSION Mr. Drigans said he had a couple of things he wanted to bring up at this meeting. One was that he would like the Planning Commission to receive a copy of the Armory report and the letter from the American Legion that was mentioned in the Council Agenda. Mr. Clark said he would see that the Planning Commission got copies of this. ' The other thing Mr�.:=Dr.igaris wanted was to check and see i� the Planning Commission could have a tour of General Television. He said they had mentioned this at a meeting some time ago, and would like to know how the Planning Commission and other governrnental bodies could use this medium. Mr. Clark said he would try and arrange this tour. Mr. Harris said he didn't know if if had•became a problem in Fridley, but he has noted in other communities, that there is a ^ problem with some of this screening of refuse containers. He said the idea is fine, but a 1ot of the time there isn't room for the garbage trucks to get in and pick up the refuse, and the screeninq is subsequently damaged and looks worse that what they are trying tp screen. Mr. Clark said that one of the problems they have is that the code says the refuse area has to be screened from public view. What is the public view? One case in point is the back o� of the�stores in Moon Plaza. They all have storage at the back of their buildings, but the public can drive back there too. The solution would be to � have a screening fence all along the back of the bu�lding, but they don't. have too much room back there now. Mr. Fitzpatrick said he agreed with Mr. Harris that he had se�n some screening that looked worse than what-they were trying to screen. Mr. Harris said the way these refuse trucxs work, you al�uost nave to leave one section open, so you only have screening on three sides. The section left open would usually be on the alley or street side, so he really couldn't see what was being accomplished. Mr. Lindblad said that it was a problem, but he thought screening was a better solution than leaving these areas completely apen. Mr. Harris said he just wanted to bring this`to the attention of the Flanning Commission. ^ Mr. Jerrold Boardman stopped in at the meeting to mention that there was a seminar on community development that would be held at Norntandale College, and he would appreciate it if any members of the Planning Commission wish to attend, they would let him know so reservations cauld Planning Commission Meeting - Se tember 25, 1974 Page 10'� be made. There sere 6 sessions, and they could attend one session � or all of them, whatever they desired. The fee was $5 per session or $25 for all six. Mr. Clark said he would get copies of the informa- tion on this seminar out to the Planning Commis�ion the next day. Chairman Fitzpatrick adjourned the meeting at 10:25 P.Nt. i t , Respectfully submitted, . C" � ,<:�'�� Dorothy Eve�Yson, Secretary • (/ � � . . . , �. , � ^ . 11 CITY OF FRIDLEY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 9, 1974 Page 1 CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Fitzpatrick called the meeting to order at 8:00 P.M. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Fitzpatrick, Harris, Lindbladt Drigans , Members Absent: Blair Others Present: Darrel C1ark, Community Development Administrator Terry Schuster, Mgr. of General Television MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by Harris that the Planning Commission adjourn their meeting of October 9, 1974 and attend a tour of Generai Television at 350 63rd Avenue N.E. Upon a voice vote, a1.1 voting aye, the motion carried unanimousl�. ^ � �� u • . . • „ ► � � r. � �: •,: :►r ;_ ; : �, �. . Meeting was ealled to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairman Blair � MFMB�RS I'RESENT: B1air, Caldwell, Harris, Peter.son ' M�NiBERS EXCUSED: Wagar OTHERS P�tESi?NI': Byron Butters, 260 67th Avenue N.E., Fridley, 560-5299, F.Y.F.A. John Saccoman, 5460 7th Street, N.E., Fridley, 560-6942, Official President, Football Dan Huff, 2365 Valentine Avenue, St. Paul, 644-4162, Naturalist/ Resource Coordinator Paul Brown, Director of Parks and Recreation Department Judy Wyatt, Secretary to the Commission � �• L� • . Mr. Brown stated that there was an inquiry made by one of the Councilmen in respect to a situation that we had one evening when there was a double header scMeduled and it rained during the first game and then it stopped raining and the second �ame was cancelled. He said there was some misunderstanding as to why it was cancelled. He said that pased on the F.Y.F.A. rules, technically the second game should have been play�d except for the simple reason that during the first game they lost three b�t�bs due to the rain. He mentioned that it really was kind of a sprinkly eveninb, and Mr. John Saccoman, the football official, made the decision not to . pla.y the second game and so informed the two coaches. They felt that the second game shoald have been played and subsequently went to one of the councilmen's ^ house and ea:nplained. Mr. iilair asked Mr. Brown if we had a policy regarding cancelling a game at night if there is rain during the day. Mr. Brown stated that wTe simply had the "poor wea�her" nolicy, which is that if it is raining during the day, the decisian is made after 3:00 p.m. whether to cancel that evening's game. He said that the office c�ntrols the decision until 3:-00 p.m., then it is up to the officials. Mr. Blair asked Mr. Saccoman whafi the official's responsibility is during rain. Mr. Sacconian stated that it is the official's obligation to turn off the lights during the rain because bulbs break. Mr. Peterson said that whether to play or not in the rain is another decision but the decision was to make the field like al1 other fields by putting shields on the ligh#�s, and that we haven't done. He said that that was what was talked about last year io be do�re for this year. Mr. �3rown stated that that was not decided by thn City, however. He said that was the Football Association's decision. He said that they went out and got some prices and found them to be quite exor.bitant: Mr. Blair asked Mr. Butters what his feelings were on this problem. Mr. Butter.s stated that someone circumvented him. He said that he is in Mr. Brown's office almost every day and he did not come in wi_th a complaint any day at a11. He said that Mr. Brown br.aught this up because naturally it had to be talked about. He said that they talked about it and there was no formal complaint by him. He stated that ^ he called r9r. 5accoman late that same night, at 10:00 p.m., and he just informed D9r. Saccoman when the game had to be rescheduled, and he didn't discuss with him . at that time atlythiJlg about the caitcellation. Mr. I3utters said that they talked about it one other evening later. ' ,� 3 Minutes of the Parks £� Rrecreation Commission Meeting, September 23; 1974 Page 2 ^ Mr. Butters said that if he could just go t�ack and reconstruct the night as best he can he would like to do so. He stated that since the football season has started, that was the only night he has not been there, as he had to work late and he could not make it. He said that he was travelling in his car from Roseville to Blaine, from 6:25 p.m. to 6:45 p.m. The first game started at 6:00 p.m. and during that time it was misty and as he was coming this way there was a slightly heavy cell of heavier mist and drizzle that came through, and he said that that must have been a.t the time the three bulbs�went, with the top bulb on each of three poles. I-Ie said that the bulbs are six to a pole in a triangular design, one above, two below, one in the middle, and two below; and it was the three top bulbs that happened to go, with the drizzle. There was a little bit of a breeze and it blew the drizzle into them. He said that he presumed this was when it happened. He was not positive because he wasn't there. He presumed that it must have been during that heavy cell that they went. He said that must have been somewhere before half time of the first game. He said that then, from as much as he could see, or has been told, the lights were turned out and the second half of the game was played. He explained that some- , "time during the second half he talked to both of the Cub coaches who were to play the second game, and they said that some kid who they did not know came and told them that the second game probably was going to be cancelled. They, not getting the information from one of the authorities, thought noi:hing of it; they kept the teams around because they thought they would play. He went on to say that they tolci him that the rain stopped at 7:20 p.m. and that it rained no further. Mr. Saccoman mentioned here that he personally talked to the two coaches at half time and informed them that the next game would not be played. � Mr. Butters said that he got to:the field himself at 8:00 p.m. and it was all dark, so he checked everything out; one gate was left open so he locked it and checked the shed for all the equipment, just to make sure that everything was clased up well. He mentioned that he turned the lights on about two minutes after 8:00 p.m. and left them on until he left, which was about 8:25 p.m, so they we.re on for that period of time. ' He mentioned that when he was there, what Iittle breeze we had was gone and there was.absolutel.y no rain at that time. He said that he walked the length of the field twice from one end to the other and the field was not muddy, not even hardly mushy at all. He stated that he didn't consider it unplayable at ail. Mr. Harris asked if Mr. Butters was in essence saying that the lights weren't used for the second half at a11. r4r. Butters replied that he wasn't going to point the finger at anyone because he felt that he was partially to blame because he w�sn't there, but he said that he couldn't be there every night. Mr. Butters went on to say that he felt that it was mistake to cancel the game, but as far as he was concerned it was water over the dam and Paul Brown and he had talked about it. A4r. Butters stated that from what he has been told, the lights were turned on at 5:30 p.m. by someone other than an official. He did not know who, as he had not been able to find out. He said that normally we don't turn on the li�hts until ^ half time of the £irst gan�e, as it really isn't necessary. Mr.Br.own asked who was representing Mr. Butters that night. He asked who has his keys. Mr. Butters replied that the keys wexe hanging on a special hook Minutes of the Parks � Recreation Commission Meeting, September 23, 1974 Page 3 . -------- - � � th.�t h� lza,� i,n th� conces�ion trailer. Mr. Brown asked who he gave them to, and Mr. l�utters replied that he had not given them to anyone; he simply took them over � there and placed �.liem on the hook. Mr. Petcrson bxought up the fact that he was upset after our last meeting be- cause one of our referees is running a fast clock. He said tYiat this policy was not in agreement with the rules and tha.t this cast very serious aspersions on the whole program; that someone outside the Parks and Recreation and our Director de- cides to alter tY:e conditions wider which the wliole thing is conducted. He said that he �.as sorry that they were talking about.it tonight this soon afterwards without giving themselves a chance to do some studying on it. He felt it gets to be an exercise in futility to come down here and sit on the Parks and Recreation with all the things that are going on, and here is someone who is ostensibly working for Parks and Recreation circumventing things like this and then they end up ceith a meeting like this and they really aren't going to accomplish anything, so he was sorry that it was on the agenda tonight. He said that he was very disturbed by the minutes and by what went on last rneeting and they sit and talk about whether or not they are going to put a chainlink fence az•ound someone's yard, and someone from the Planning Commission comes out and says what the policy is going to be, and so they � sat down here for an hour talking about it and really it should have been accomplished by someone who is working for the City. He said it seemed to him that they had the impression that the City employees run the City for their benefit rather that the City emplayees running it for the benefit of the City. He went on to say that the Football Association is a pretty large part of our City and working with quite a few boys, and to run roughshod over something that ihey have dane, he didn't think, showed good concern for the citizenry or the City. He said that he was very upset about it. He said that he didn't blame the coaches for going to the councilman, because they don't get action out of them because they don't even talk about it in �1 their meetings. He said that they don't get involved in it and they're not going to put up with it and so therefore he did't blame them for what they did, and he didn't know about it until he heard Byron tell about it. � Mr. Harris commented that the fact of the matter exists that the programs, whether it's the hockey program, the baseball program or the football program, are run for the benefit of the kids, not the benefit of the association, whichever one it happens to be. He said that recognizing that the program is designed for whomever is participating in it, he gets concerned about two things happening. He mentioned that he wasn't at our last meeting so he asked to be excused f.or probat�ly speaking in generalities. He said that it's not really a general thing when you think about the safety factor that is involved ��hen the kids are play- ing. He said he'd seen it happen where he'd been up there at the hockey rink, for example, ar�d tl�e weafiher had been inclement; the ice was melting and black dirt showing through the ice, and he was up there to either have a practice or a game, and he has refused to put his kids on the ice, even though the program called for a schedule that night. He said that he felt the health and welfare of those kids was much more important, than someane coming out with a broken leg or ankle or some other k�.nd of injury, that that type of condition would warrant. He said that he imagines that same kind oi condition happens in football. He said that �here must be situations that do occur that maybe aren't spelled out the way they should be under policy, indicating what is the determining factor for the safety and health of the participants. He said that is what they should be concerned about, and maybe the policy is lacking, ancl�maybe it is up to this canunittee to heZp these M�nutes o� the Parks � Recr.eation Conunission Meeting' September 23, 1974 Page 4 • '� � groups determine what is a sensible and reasonable way to determine what should be done on that basis to make certain that we are pratecting anyone from an injury. � Mr. Peterson ��.id that the auestion of injury was not the issue, but whether the field is played on ox not. He felt that whether the field is played on or not is the Parks and Recreatioii Department's decision. He stated that the questio�l they were talking about was that the Pootball Association, just like the Hockey Associa- tion, has certai.n rules an� regulations under ��hich it's operating, for instance line changes and length of gar.2e, and the referees, etc., decided to run fast watches so that they have not been abiding Uy the rules and regulations that have been in effect between the Association and the Parks and Recreations Department. He felt that whether it was good, bad or indifferent, it tivas agreed upon, and it wasn't the referee's decision to decide not to abide by it. He said they were running fast times because they felt the kids were staying out too late. He said that maybe they were staying out too late but he felt that was t}ie parents decision to complain or the Parks and Recreation to complain not the people who are paid to run the game because you destroy some of. the intregity if the referees aren't following the rules. Mr. Harris said that if the lights were broken, he would be concerned about the kids falling on the glass and hurting themselves. Mr. Butters explained that the glass was not on the field. Mr. Peterson asked what the cost was to put shields on the lights. He felt that this cost should be put in the budget. Mr. Peterson stated that he felt football is an al�. weather sport and that you don't call games because of weather. He said that it was a poor policy to call � a game because of weather. . Mr. Saccoman replied that he agreed with Mr. Peterson in that football is an all weather sport to a certain extent. He said that to high sch�ol kids, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old; college kids, twenty, twenty-one, �wenty-two years old, and adults playing football, it's an all weazher sport. But, he asked, is it really an all weather sport for a ten year old kid to be aut to 9:00 at night so3king wet in a freezing drizzle? He asked if this was what we wanted for our kids. He said he didn't know if he wanted that £or his youngster, and he didn't know if any- one else wanted it for their youngster. He said that football was a good game but he wondered if it was an all weather spor.t, whe-re a ten or eleven year old kid is going to be out in the kind o.f weather we have in the fall in Minnesota, when it can rain and be very cold and windy. Mr. Harris stated that this was the policy that had to be executed for this season, but that policy wasn't sacred. He said that maybe some other determinations have to be made to clarify it, and maybe there are other conditions, as Mr. Saccoman said, when the temperature is of such a nature that that's it, we don't play. He said that we don't schedule hockey games sometimes either; we listen to WCCO and tell the kids when it's below 0°, don't show up. Mr. Butters stated that he now goes up to the field every night, opens up the light box and leaves it up to the officials to turn on the lights when necessary, and he then turns off the lights�afterwards. ^ Mr. Brown stated that the policy this season has been to decide after 3:00 p.m. wnether or not to cancel a game. After 3:00 p.m. the coaches call the Parks office and discuss the decision. P9inutes of the Parks � Recr.eation Commission I�eeting, September 23, 1974 Page 5 -- - � ----- ' '� �ii ` Mr. Peterson suggested that this be put on the agenda for January. He stated that the Football Association can then have time to tallc about it, and they'll have time � to study the rules and regulations, so that they'll know what they're talking about when t}iey ask questions. He said that if the referees want to have their input they'll have time to do so. He mentioned that they would also have time to get some costs on the shields. MOT 10N b y Pe.t etr�s o n, �s ee� nde.d b y Hantc.us ,�ha.t �h,i� b e�c.�t a n�he ag enda � �n Jav�ucur. y. The ma�i.�n ccuvr,i.ed. It4UTIDN by Pe.te�c.a�n, �seeanded by Ca.�dw�2.e, �hce� �an �he ne�� a� �h,iws �ea�v�. Mn. Btcvwv� maFze �12e deai�s�.an be�atce 5:00 p.m. wlie.the�. �a p2ay an no� c�s �atc a�s �jUU�bQ.P.e �(iS cancefcned. The ma�,i.an ca�vc�.ed. � Mr. Peterson stated that if it clears up after 5:00 p.m, that's not Mr. Brown's fault, and until they did that for Babe Ruth, they just had all kxnds of hassles. He said that when the decision was made that they had to call the office before 5:00 p.m., and if Mr. Bro�an said, "No play", and the sun came-out at 6:00 p.m. everyone understood it and went about rescheduling and they didn't have any arguments with anyone. Mr. Blair asked for any discussion on the motion and Mr. Butters had a question. He stated that he didn't worry about Mr. Brown, because they communicate with each other very well, but he would like some lines of communication on the day of.the game. Mr. Brown said .that it would be a cohesive judgment. He mentioned also, that we will have ta get out this information to all the coaches. Mr. Peterson stated that last year.they sometimes had as many as four games ^ which involved eight coaches, two for each game, and he didn't know if it was Cathie who took the calls, but they had no problems of getting communication after that policy, because they called the office and if Mr. Brown said, "No game", then the coach called his kids. He went on to say that then they didn't have kids standing around in the rain as they had in the past, because they all knew ahead of time whether or not they were going to paly. Mr. Butters agreed with this policy but asked that we change the time to be from 4:OU p.m. to 5:00 p.m, so that he can check the field and talk with Mr. Brown before the decision is made. Mr. Brown L�rought up the fact that we have spent a lot of money, time and effort in fixing up our field. He mentioned that other communities have come over to look at it and use it as an example of what a field should be. He said that other councilmen have come over to the City Hall mad at him because they have to go see our field, because tl�ey are being pressured to duplicate it. Mrs. Caldwell asked if this footba.11 policy was an interim thing. Mr. Pe�Cerson replied that the motion ►aas made to put it on the agenda in January. She wanted to know if this became policy, could it be thrown out at the January meeting. Mr. Peterson explained that the motion, which did pass, was only for the remainder of this season. \: i �■l _i ^ . Dr. Uan Huff was at the meeting to meet the Commissioners and answer any questions they might have regarding his program. Mr. Blair thanked Dr. Huff for coming and asked him what his program was and what his responsibilities were. , _ �� Minutes of the Parks F, Recreation Commission Meeting, September 23, 1974 Page 6 Dr. Huff replied that right now he only has two programs in the department, and � supposedly the potential is for quite a bit of growth in the department in the environmental area. He said that the original program that was proposed which initiated the approval and creation of this position and department was for a Nature Interpretation for the City. He said tliis would be held on public lands that would be park lands and other city and ccunty lands in the City that would be deemed appro- priate for natural history education. He went on to say that l�e was enlisted to first assess these and propose the objecti.ves for a Nature Interpretive Program, then to pro- vide a budget, to propose implementation measures and then to implement the program. He said that the first step was a look at all the park lands we have and an assessment of the natural areas we have that would be appropriate f.or this, and that led to the description of each of these areas which are in the proposal. He said that the second part was then to actually propose a system of natural history areas which would be designated by resolution as natural history areas and therefore protect them somewhat from further development in the future. He said that they would be dedicated for a cause and that it is obvious that that dedication could be changed in the future if it were to become necessary. He said that without some sort of dedication for natural history, the future is very bleak for undeveloped property in a rapidly growing residential area. He mentioned that without some sort of guarantee that these areas will be protected, it's hard to come up with a Nature Interpretation Program with a base to work on in the City, so this is the first step in the Inter- pretation Program. He said that that is for the designation of certain areas and that tlzis is simply a proposal in the six areas that would be most appropriate to designate as natural history areas for this program, which would be developed later. � He went on to say that generally the program would be one of maybe one or two full time people, himself included, perhaps a secretary, and a lot of volunteer help, for nature trail guides, bird watching trips, etc. Dr. Huff stated that these different areas would be developed over a period of time, as far as the improvements are concerned, to have trails which would maintain heavy foot traffic and still not damage the natural flora and fauna; bird observation and photography blinds would be built in some areas, interpretive signs would be used throughout all the areas, self-interpretive signs so that interested people could go through each of these areas on their own and have nature-interpretive guideposts along the way. Llr. Huff said that the development of the A-frame building up in North Innsbruck would be for the Visitors' Center, which would be used perllaps only on an interim basis depending on the decision about the North Park question caming up in November. He said that it may be that if the Nature Center is supported, that within a year or two there ma.y be a perma.nent facility developed out there, and therefore free the A-frame building that is in North Innsbruck. But, he continued, in the meantime it would be to develop that area first as the natural history area and the Visitors Center �aith film showings scheduled of nature wildlife, to develop other types of displays there, such as taxidermy, wildlife, pressed plant collections, natural flora and fauna collections from the area. He said tha.t all sorts of literature would be available; they will set up a schedule whereby the children from the schools could be brought over to see films, to talk to the Naturalist, to walk the nature trails, similar to the jVoodlake operation, but on a smaller sca.le. He said that this would � be the first, and the reason for the six areas is that each provides a unique separate type of natural flora and fauna, from the oak woods up at North Innsbruck to tlie roll- ing sand dunes at East Moore Lake, the prairie plants.that are found in the site we call Banfill Prairie, which is just a spot that the City owns. .�:3..� Minutes o� the Parks � Recreation Commission Meeting, September 23, 1974 Page 7 �� Dr. Huff went on to say that the Island of Peace (Chase's Island) is a very � charactexistic site for floodplain £orests, maple,, ash., elm, cottoriwood, etc. He sa�d that each one is di£fexent and each provides its o�rn educational opportunities for ecology, and therefore the six of them provide a system whereby a series of different learning measures that each o�e of them can accomplish a tremendously wide area of natural history education. Mr. Peterson asked Mr. Brown if the City Council had yet acted on the Parks and Recreation Conunission's resolution regarding Dx. Huff. Mr. Brown replied that the City Council had received our minutes from last meeting but there was no official action taken. Mrs. Caldwell asked Dr. Huff where he would receive his manpower and he replied that he got it from the budgets for this department which had been set up and approved by the Eity Council. She asked him if he was a separate department, io which he replied that he was. She asked then, how they would coordinate with him their plans for the recreation uses with what he plans. Dr. Huff replied that there �voulfl be very minimal coordination needed. He said that these areas are natural areas that have not been developed for intensive park use. Mrs. Caldwell asked Dr. Huff if any of his plans conflicted with the Parks and Recreation Department's plans for the parks. I�r, �etexson stated tfiat Tie �elt tI�;s �ta� one a,£ the reasons that some o� the Cammissioners last month mac3e a motion and sent it over to the City Council for ^ action, because they felt that there are certain overlaps between Dr. Huff's pro- gram and the Parks Department's overall long range program. He said that at least he felt that there was a defznite overlap, and that there should be a line of commu- nication. Dr. Huff asked if he meant beyond the North Park c{uestion and Mr. Peter- son replied yes. Dr. Huff explained that before he proposed anYthi,ng px Sent anythang to any�- one regarding the use of park land he contacted N1r. Bxown and talked to him about it. He said that just because he isn't in Mr. Brown's Department doesn't mean that the two of them don't have to be completely coordinated on anything th.at has to do with park lands. He said that if he went to A4r. Qureshi l�rith plans for the use of one square inch of park property, Mr. Quresiii would ask him if he had talked with Mr. Brown. He said that what good administrator wouldn't, and therefore why wouldn't he do it in the first place? He said that that would be like his going to Mr. Qureshi and asking if he could use a police car tomorrow. Dr. Huff went on to expiain that be�ore this plan-��rent to anyone it �tas di,s, cussed inhause an�ong tIle City Hall admini:strators in the City government, and Mr. Brown had two very viable concerns and these were incorpor.ated into it and we had his approval. Mr. Brown explained that the Commission felt that tI�ey have the right to a.dd or delete; that they might have some ideasof their own, and that it went to the City Cauncil before they saw it. Dr. Huff replied that it was sent to everyone at the same time. � D9r. Peterson stated that it was pretty haxd for hi.,m to com�rehend how You can have land use of natural history development or parks and recreation or however you're talking about it, of undeveloped lands and have two separate departments Minutes of the Parks � Recreation Commission Meeting, Septem�er 23, 1974 Page 8 �' � operating it, because this is what you are going to have. He said that he £elt � that this was the feeling of the Commissioners at the last meeting when they passed a resc�luti.on and passed it on to the Ci,ty Council to take.and examine. He felt there k�ere bound to be conflicts. � Mrs. Caldwell concurred with this. She £elt that Dr. Huf�'s conce�t might conflict with the Parks Department's ideas. Dr. Huff explained that i£ Iie had gone aUout �t in exactlr the same t�ray� exce�t had not sent it to the City Council, then they woul.d have had it, the Environmental Quality Commission would have had it, the Planning Commission would have had it, and all these Commissions would have been looking at the proposal. He said that the only other reason that it was mailed to anyone was because the City Council wanted to know ti�hat he had been doing, and he had given them a list of objectives and the £irst one was to make this proposal, and therefore, Mr. Qureshi and he discussed it and Dr. Huff asked Mr. Qureshi wlio it should go to at that point. He told Mr. Qureshi that he would like it to go to the City Council so that they could see what he was daing. Mr. Qureshi told him �that as long as he was sending it to these other people to go ahead and sencl it to the City Council simply £or their information. Dr. Huff stated that the original mai.ling to the City Council showed carbon copies had been sent to Environmental Quality Commission, etc.. He said that he wasn't trying to pull anything over anyones eye. Mr. Peterson stated that the Commission didn't have an� axgwnent w�,th Dx. Huff, but that they had an argument with the total conce�t of having a Naturalist outside the Parks and Recreation Department. He mentioned tFiat he felt there were goin� to be conflicts. Dr. Huff pointed out that there are outlots and �lats that are owned by the City and there is tax forfeit land that is owned by the County, but other than that t}ie only public lands that are.usable in the City belong to the Parks Depart- ment, whether they're developed or not. He stated that any new program which would be initiated and deemed important enough to be initiated by the City Council caould therefore seem to include the right to propose the use of this land that is as yet uncommitted to be used for one thing or another. Mr. Harris commented that their issue was not �v�`th Dx. Hu�� but w�,th the Coun-. cil. He said that Dr. Huff h.ad brought up the point that he Flad discussed this proposal with Mr. brown. He stated that Mr. Brown does not necessarily represent the Commission, he represents the Commission as the policy makers for the Parks and Recreation Comnrission. He said that Mr. Brown does not establish policy, he admini- strated it, so that what Dr. Huff might discuss with A4r. BrownJUn2ess it was a de- cision that Ilad originated with this corrunittee at some other time, and the policy had been set to say that okay, we've decided that Moore Lake Natural History area, which Dr. Huff has designated as item #6, was designated by that and we have no proposal for it, then he could implement that with Dr. Huff by saying our Board . of Commissioners has decided that that should be set asa.de �or that particular purpose. He stated that he didn't think that that had been done. He said that he could see some problems, not between Dr. Huf.f and Mr. Brown or the Commzssioners, but a matter of knowing exactly what each other is doing. He saic3 that i£ this commission is to set the policy for Parks and Recreation, then it has to be set for everyane's use whether Dr. Huff is goitlg to use it in hi.s �rogram or Mr. Brown � is going to use it within his program or whether the City� decides if they taant to use an amory or a piece of property. He stated that it should be referred to that commission to find out what plans are made, what ideas have been discussed or �inutes of the Parks � Recreation Commission Meeiing, Se tember 23, 1974 Page 9 �� what proposals are imminent on �t so that none gets o�� on the wxong £oot. He sa�d that they don't want that t� happen. l:e explained�that they want to work with Dr. !, Huff, and ntake c�rtain that he has the best �rogram. He stated that he just thought the Council made a mistake, I-ie said that he had re.�erred the Council to the Ordin- ance, because there is no way that they can do it because they axe in violation of their own ordinance rigllt now. Mr. Fiarris �aent on to say that he felt that the work that Dr. Huff had done so far on his proposal was certainly the start that he had to do in determining what is available and what he is going to use within his pxogram. He stated that he had some auestion about it, not that he disagreed with what Dr. Huff had written, but he mentioned that he had some questions regarding Rice Creek for instance, and whether or not he had discussed it with the Rice Creek K�ater Shed District, and what plans tliey have for raising and lowering the water in that area. Dr. Huff, replied that many of them have t�een coordi.nated. At this point Mr. Peterson had to leave the meetirig. Dx. Hu�� stated a�ter Mr. Peterson left, that he should have anstaered a cou�le o� his questions before he left. The first one was whether or not land can be managed by more than one group. Dr. Huff stated that that was just a functi.on o£ your po�ver structure where you decide who manages what part and. some sort of arrangement f�r coming to an agreement when there is a controversy. He went on to say that if you look at any park land that is owned by the State of Minnesota, the timber values are managed by one power structure, the Forestry Department, recreation is handled by another, game and fish are managed by another, hydrology is managed by another, but they all work together to come up with a plan to get it done. He said there's no reason /'� why the Parks Department couldn't provide services of maintenance in a natural history area and he provide the expertise to train or to guide tours to develop trails to develop signs and to oversee these tem�orary people �tho would do the work. Mr. Harris mentioned that he was not at tFLe last meeting but had read the m�nutes. He said that he felt that making an analogy� with �rhat the State is doing and what the Ci�y is doing is not quite the same. He stated that we have desi.gnated selected land within the community. He said that what invarably happens here laith a limited amount of parkland or with a majority o� the parkland or an excessive amount, what- ever relationship you want'to call it, you've got 24 acres in Innsbruck North and someone will come in and tell you that that is parkland and they want a swingset or tennis court or softball diemonds, etc. He said that is usually �ahat ha.ppens. He said it won't be but about two more meetings before someone comes in regarding one of those parcels �aith a request. He said that i£ you take all the available land out of one segment and use it for one thing, then eventually this Commission is going to be in the position of saying.it doesn't have any land over there; it's being used by the Naturalist. He stated that he wasn't saya.ng it shouldn't be used by the Naturalist, maybe it well should be. Or, he said, we're going to have to tell the people that we do have land in that area but it's not available to them so we'll }iave to acquire some additional land in that given area. He stated that this has happened, not because of Dr. Huff's department, but because other uses have been determined for park land. Dr. Huff explained that some land may be a marsh and not suitable �or swings, etc, but might be a tremendous educational recreational facility. He stated that � was the reason he selected the six areas chosen. fie mentioned that they are not all totally dedicated for one pri.mary use either. fIe said that North Innsbruck Park, for instance, has a large area on ttie south side which will be filled in and have picnic grounds. He said that the Banfill Prairie area i.s li_sted c;ondi.tionally on their �a.nding ariotiier site close �r ,�ox a Tot Lqt �nd a convnun�t� �axk. Minutes of the Parks � Recreation Commission Meeting, Se tember 23, 1974 Page 10 He said that the total aspect is conszdered He stated tliat he wasn't tryang to take park ^ work with them f.or the whole community. ^ �� or each one o� the sites, land from one authority, simply to Mr. Haxris assured Dr. Huff that he understood this and that he did, in fact,. like his proposal but he had some questions regarding it. He asked Dr. Huff i£ his evaluation considered these six areas only, or if he was planning on additional areas in the future. Dr. Huff replied that there was very little land left, but that they had looked at what else might be available in the future also. N1r. I-iarris asked Dr. Huff if he had any thoughts on Locke Park. Dr. Huff replied that there was so much other traditional use there already. He said that there were some things he would like to participate in, for instance, ski touring trails which would be caxried out in the idea of winter ecology, winter nature trips which could be carried out along the creek, etc. He said that wherever it doesn't conflict with other uses of the park they have in mind the possibil.it�r of all sorts of programs in all the parks. � Dr. Hu�f pointed out that there were already�plans that a porti,on of.North Innsbruck Park should be a�nature area, the Islands of Peace was already dedicated to remain an inviolate center and to serve everyone, etc. He said that Rice Creek, of course, has very little planned for intensive use or competitive athletic type use in that area, so it's a natural spot. He mentioned that North Park is going to be left up to the >>oters. He said that he has people calling him.every day asking him what he thinks should be done with North Park, and they think he should be able to tell them since he is the Naturalist. He added that he had spent ten years in education to become one and he should be able to give them an educated guess as to what is most.appropriate for it. He said that he has a personal op- inion regarding the park, which most people could probably figure out because of his background, but as far as a plan for the City development, he feels if the City votes that it should be a golf course, who's to say that that isn't the best use of the land, and at that point he agrees with that. Dr. Huff said that there are other areas, not as adequate or as large a site; but they could maintain a very viable natural history program. Mrs. Caldwell asked Dr. Huff if a golf course is decided on, would he reserve some small area there? He replied that he would pravid.e what help he could but that would be very low on the totempale as far as a list of priorities go. He said that if the people want a golf course, we should give it to the planners who can develop a good one. He mentioned that it would be tremendous for cross country skiing, snoeshoeing etc. He said that it would not be appropriate for a woodlake type facitity. Mr. Brown mentioned that there are eveTi opportuni.�.ies for bird watching on a golf course late in the evening. Dr. Huff agreed but explained that you don't end up with a natural situation. Mr. Brown commented that once Dr. Huff has the opportunity to educate our community and ttie surrounding communities, those people in his program will be able to come back, because that is what nature is all about; to teach as much as you can �o a few and then those become disciplesand go out and spread the word to ^ other kids in the neighborhood, and eventually you get a lot of people involved. Dr. iiuff replied that his attitude at the present time is not one of trying to get followers; he is just trying to meet the demar,ds ot the people. He said that many of these peaple are world known authorities. He said that people whom Minutes of the Parks F� Recreation Commission Meeting, Sentember 23, 1974 Page 11 he used to go and listen to are not� telling that he is whexe they �ere 20 Years � ago, and asking him what he a.s going to do. He commented that he would be kidding �them i.£ he didn't tell them that one of the reasons tr.at his department was created separately was because thexe is a large group of people who feel that the Parks Department is overprone to development: to pave, to make tennis courts, etc. He explained that maybe the natural impetus in a Park Department to provide all these facilities is stronger than maybe it would be in a Naturalist to preserve a few unique areas. He said fihat that was one of the reasons that the politics got involved and the department was made separately from the Parks and Recreation Department. i` � Mr. Browri responded that he could see the commissioners vie�rpoini though, He also pointed that that; many of these things were purchased and policy set long"before he came on the scene. Mr. Harris asked Dr. Huff if he was available to conduct his program autside the confines of the tangible boundaries. Dr. Huff replied that he �aas. He said his job would be to expand beyond what opportunities they have here in the City�and what assets the�T have and take those in a wider area, etc., but those programs become more limited in the nwnber of people and age groups who will use them, as opposed to a local area which will have a program that attelementary group can walk over to a couple of blocks. Mr. Brown asked Dr. Huff to give the Commissioners a very quick dqllar figure as to what he proposed for his 1975 budget. �'1 Mxs. Caldwell asked if that would be out of the Parks and Recreation Uudget, and Mr. Brown explained that it was a separate budget. Dr. Huff stated that his personal services were just himself, (he said that he was the only permanent person in the Department) a secretary who is also tem- porary at the present time, two three-month employees in the summertime for the Naturalist Frogram. He then autlined his staff.for the Shade Tree Disease Control Program which is his other program. He had proposed a full time person next year who would also be temporary (far a year) and two part time tree inspectors. He said that altogether the personal ;ervices came to approximately $50,000, to the best of his recollection as he didn't have his budget with him. Dr. Huff stated that if he made a little procedural mistake somewhere it might be a mistake to someone but not to someone else. Mr. Harris commented that Dr. Huff was not the one who made the mistake. � Mrs. Caldwell said that she was asked to come and serve on.a commission because she would by making a decisions on parkland and slie finds that anything they say ta the Council doesn't mean anythi�g. She said she is beginni.ng to wonder why she is here. She commented that if (you people) can do it all better she thought tlley should stay home. She said that she was very busy. Mr. Blair stated that he still felt that the Naturalist areas t�ere still parks and they should still go under the jurisdiction of this commission, and if they have to be educated in Dr. Huff.'s way of thinking then he was all for that, because ^ he enjays nature himself, Mr. Brown commented that as long as Dr. Iiuff can see the viewpoint of the Conunissi.on tliat's the important thing. He said that Dr. Huff is doing his best and that in all honesty, he and Dan have more than done their share of coo�erating. � . . . . . . � � . 4� . . Minutes o£ the Parks F� Recreation Commission Meeting, Se tember 23, 1974 Page 12 .^ . He mentioned that they have tried to keep each other posted as to what the lines of communication are. He stated that Dr. Huff still has to work with the City Manager so it's pretty tough sosnetitnes. Mr. Blair said that the question he i.s asked most is why llr. Huf£ reports to the City Manager and he can't give them an answer. Dr. Huff replied that the City i�9anager would tell you that he's just not a Natu- ralist, he's a Naturalist/Resource Coordinator �ahich means actually he's a depart- ment head, and Ueing a Naturalist is just one part of his job; he also has other jobs which are not necessarily park jobs, but since he has the expertise as a Natu- ralist too, then he has that program, and he is going to coordinate that with Parks. Dr. Huff said that he could see why people would think it would be one way or the other. He stated that he didn't like to be in the middle of people thinking it, but as far as a working situation he said that he hadn't had any trouble with Mr. Brown and he didn't envision any. I-ie mentioned that Mr. Brown had two concerns with the program, and hopefully, as b1r. Brown gets to kno�•r him better they can open up to each other more. He commented that if the Commission hears of anything indicat- ing he hasn't gone through their end before the proposal got to someone else, to give him a call and gime him a chance to get in touch with them and get their approval. Mr.. Harris stated that he could only speak for himself but that everyone else felt also that they want to see Dr. Huff's department grow and be successful and be ^ a viable entity within our community. �Ie said that they are charged with the re- sponsibility and the oxdinance does read that the Parks and Recreation Commission is set up for the purpose of setting poli.cy, recommending to the Council on Parks and Recreations compliance and procedures, etc., and they have an obligation to the citizens of Pridley. Dr. Huff comment-ed that the first thing that was said on the Council when they got to this item on the agenda �aas what was this for and Mr. Qureshi and he replied that it was just for their information at that point and their next question was whether or not it had been sent to the Parks and Recreation Com- missian. Mr. Qureshi replied that it definitely had been sent to them. Mr. Blair told Dr. Huff that they certainly appreciated the fact that he would keep them posted on any ideas that lie might have, recagnizing thei.r responsibility and that they want to work together with him. Dr. �iuff replied that he would like the opportunity to have some broader realm within planning the parks in the future, and anything Mr. Brown would like him to work with him on now, as far as landscaping and that type of thing. He said that he would be kidding them if he didn't say he didn't have some personal feelings as far as being a department head because natu- rally it sounds better to him to stay that way than it ivould to b�come a pari of parks. He said that any time they would like to discuss anything with him to let him know through Mr. Brown. Mr. Brown stated technically the Parks Commission is responsible for the park lands. Dr, Huff said that there was no reason why the natural history areas couldn't simply be a subdivision of a group of parks and they would siill have control, just as they do on anything in any other parks. He sai.d that it would simply be his in- ^ put to help them decide any questions whi.ch they might have on it, and his obligat- ion to provide the implementation of the programs that they would approve. I-fe stated that regardless of wtiether he is in the Parks Department or not, if it's park lands which are concerned, and they are the ones respo�isible for the final approval, tliat's fi.ne with him. � . � � � � � � � . . � � � F� R �� Minutes o� the Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting, Se�tember 23, 1974 Page 13 � COMPOST PILE Mr. Brown explained that the compost pile is in our 1975 budget, in the amount of $5,000. He said ihat this was for machinery to chop up leaves, etc. He said that this will be a city taide program, and instead of bagging up your leaves and putting them out for the garbage man, you can bring them to the compost pile and dispose of them. Mr. Harris asked if there were any plans on the drawing board yet. Mr. Blair stated that the Environmental Commission would be talking about it the following night, and they wan�ed someone from the Parks and Recreation Department to came to that meeting. Mr. Harris asked where the compost pile was going to be and Mr. Bro�m replied that it was going to be at Locke Park at the east end. � ' SOCIAL BALLROOM DANCING Mr. Brown asked for some decision on the social ballroom dancing proposal. He stated that the fees for the lessons would be on a.'�ess expensive basis than the lessons given Uy several of the dance clubs in town. Mrs. Caldwell said that if the people �rant it, then we shauld give it to them. Mr. Harris commented that this is a self-supporting recreational function as the participants pay themselves. MOT I ON 6 y Ha�vc,i�s a eca �1ded b y�.�a,r�r., �� a{y � en. �s v�a,� 6�0 �m dav►.c,�.v►,g �a �he n�s.�- der�i5 a� �tu,d2ey. The ma�.i,vvc ccuvu.ed. /', PRESIDENCY - M.R.P.A. MUTIUN by tlatvu.�, �ecanded 6y 8.2a.ur:, �a tcece,i.ve .�he mema .c:h.�atrm<c:.v�g �h.e C.i.�y a��y�.c<i.a.e�s and �h.e eamm,i�s�5�.anetr�5 a� �v�s��,b.�e e,Qee.t,�av� a� �.uc.ec,tatc �a Pn�s�:dev�-�2ec.� a{� �he M, R. P. A. The ma�`.i:av� ecvuued. SQUARL DANCING Mr. Brown commented that last week was our first session o.£ square dance lessons, wliich went very weil. � ADULT EVENING SCHOOL Mr. Bro�n said that this was the first time the school district had sent us a copy of their Adult Evening School bulletin. Fie mentioned that the schools were really starting to cooperate with the Parks Departmen� in sending us their literature. I:ARATE Mr. Blair mentioned that there was some interest in starting karate classes. Mr. � Bzown suggested that we asked the gentleman to come to our Commission meeting and explain his program. Mr. Harris reauested that we get more information on the classes first which they can discuss at their next meeting. h4UTI0N by Na�i�, aeeanded by �.2a.vi, �o a��nave �he M�.v�u�e�s �� he Augu�� 2G, 1474 ^ m�.e.t.i.�ig . Th.e ma�t;a►i eajuc.�ed . CITY TRUCKS � Mr. Brown mentioried that D4r. Wagar had called him regarding the situation with �� r.. :`�� Minutes of the Parks F� Recreation Conunission Meeting, Se tember 23, 1974 Page 14 � the City trucks being usecl by the Parks Department. He said that they had that all ironed out and everyone was satisfied. Mr. Blaix• asked what the problem was and Mr. Brown said that some of the equipment that was used in other departments is a.pparently supposed to be asked for, and our people apparently were just taking the equipment. He meritioned that there was another conflict �ahere a unit broke down while in our possession and there was a$50Q repair bill. There Gvere some people who felt that we should pay for it since it broke down while we were using it. However, we felt that it wasn't our fault that it broke down, it was close to that point when we got it. Mr. Harris,mentioned that he heard that the reason it broke down was because it was averloaded. Mr. BroGan replied that to his knowledge there was never any accu- sation of that sort, that the main problem was that when the main unit went out it was really broken, but only certain people knew that, and our men went ahead and used it and it really went. He went on to say that the problem has been solved to every- ones satisfaction. Mr. Harris requested that the Parks Secretary call each of the Commissioners the day� of the �neeting and remind them, as it is easily overlooked. iVADING POOLS Mr. Blair asked Mr. Brown i� �e could get some costs on t�ading pools. Mr. Brown replied that he would. � ^ ADJOURNMENT MOTIDN �a adjacvr.v� �Eie mee.tu�.g a.t R:3Q p.m. The next regular meeting will be held on Tuesday, October 29, 1974 at 7:30 p.m., in the Community room of Fridley Civic Center. ^ Respect£ully submitted, J dy Wyat , Secretary ta the Convnission � �: �� BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOAL�iITTEE bIEETING OF OCTOBER Zp 74 The meeting was called to order by Cnairman Lindb.lad at 8:00 P.M. ;�fE�iBERS PRESENT: Lindb lad, Tonco �fEtiIBERS ABSENT: Nelson, Simoneau, Treuenfels OTHERS PRESENT: Jerry Boardman, Planning Assistant No approval of minutes, because a c{uorum could not be established. Chairman Lindblad stated since there were only two members present all items would be reviewed an3 sent on to council for approval. Chairman Lindblad received a letter from ris. Treuenfels, whereby she has submitted her resignation. Mr. Lindblad then made a recommend- ation to Cfluncil to apgoint a replacement as soon as possible. 1. COa?'!'INUATION OF A A MEDICAL CLINICt TO CONSTRUCT A NE{V BUILDING TO BE USED AS NORTH SUBURBAN HOSPITAL DISTRICT, 550 OSBORNE ROAD, FRIDLEY, P-4INNESOTA. Mr. Peter Kramer and Mr. Albert Eilers were present for the petitioner. Mr. Kramer presented a picture and a scale model of the bui2ding to b e acted upon. � Mr. Kramer said the building is to be constructed using matching brick. similar to the adjacent hospital. The building construction will not dis- turb wooded areas near the hospital. The building has been moved 15 feet back as requested at the last meeting eliminating the need for special per- mits. ^ btr. Kramer said there will be four 4 inch hard maple trees in the park- ing lot and in front of the building, with a row of dogtivood bushes along the 20 foot street area and five foot berm co�,Fered with sumac. htr. Kramer said that burnished concrete will be used along the side of the building with a canopy in front identical to that of the adjacent hospital. The .design is the same as the hospital. Nir. Lindblad asked about the hospital parking situation. P�Ir. Kramer stated there would be a joint parking lot for the hospital and the clinic. :•ir. Kramer added that a new department had been added called Occupational Therapy and that there maybe a need for additional parking in the future. Room has been provided in case this happens. I�lr. Boardman asked a question.on proper drainage of the parking lot, and i£ in the future additional piping is needed to control storm drainage they will take the appropriate measures. 'ir. Boardman proposed they work with the Engineering Department in order to set parking lot grades for the proper future storm water control. I�9r. Boardman raised the c{uestion on disposal of refuse. rir. Kramer painted out on his site plan the location of the refuse disposal area, and stated that it would meet the clinic's disposal needs. All garbage �vi11 be stored inside the building for easy handling. n F��y/ Iq+':' i BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOI�gIITTEE hIEETING OF OCTOBER 10, 1974 P. 2 D9r. Eilers stated he is now taking bids for refuse disposal. He is also taking bids on an incinerator to properly take care of contam�nation problems. A4r. Boardman stated next that dust and dirt must b e controlled during the construction, as a consideration to the surrounding neighborhood. Mr. Kramer said that this.would be done. Chairman Lindblad made the recommendation the building should ga to Council for approval with the following stipulations: 1. An agreement be�ween the North Suburb an Hospital District and the group of doctors who will own the three acre tract, on the maintenance and use of the skywalk, on the use of the parking Iots and driveways, be dra�,m. 2. If any additional water mains, sewers or storm sewers b ecome necessary, the entire cost be borne by the North Suburban Hospital District and/or the owners of the medical building. 3. The Norfih Suburban Hospital District agrees to work with the City to establish a park in the area. 4. Proper signing be provided by the North Suburban Hospital District to direct traffic to and from Osborne Road N.E. 5. Complete the 50 feet of buffer along 75th, Lyric, and 5th Street ^ which shall consist of a berm and plantings to screen the parking Iots from the residential areas. � 6. No tree removal without City approval. 7. Any future parking areas be provided with a berm or screening from the adjoining R-1 areas presently occupied by single family homes. 8. An agreement that the doctor's group will maintain the used portion of the three acre tract. 9. The medieal building will be limited to occupation and uses as stated in a letter from the Unity Medical Center of September 6, 1973 which states that this bui�ding shall be limited to health professionals which will include, but not limited to, physicians, dentists, oral surgeons, clinical psychologists, psychiatric social workers and allied mental health personnel. �.ary uses other than office space shall be limited to those commercial enterprises designed to serve the doctors and dentists and theix personnel and patients. Such ��y uses would include things such as a professional pharmacy, an optical company, possible a_card and flower shop, and possibly • at a later date, a coffee shop. � 10. Dust abatement procedures be taken to keep the dust down during construction. /'1 11. Contractor be responsible for garb age and waste removal on the overall area during the construction period by providing large containers that would be regularly emptied by pick up. � � �� BUILDI�G STANDARDS-DESIGN CONiROL SUBCOA�IITTEE MEETING UF OCTOBER 10, 1974-Pg, 3 12. Additional parking be provided if deemed necessary by the City. 13. All garbage be stored inside the building. I4, tVork with the Engineering Department in setting up a workable storm water runoff plan. 2. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TQ ALLOW THE ESTABLISI-i�4ENT OF A MOBILE HOtitE SALES SITE: LOCATED ON THE WESTERLY 329.3 FEET OF THE SOUTH- EAST QUARTER OF THE NORTHWEST OUARTF.R �F �FrTrnN ��- Tu� c�� ING 73S5 HTGHWAY #65 NORTHEAST, FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA. (REQUEST BY CHAEL B. ROTTER, 2180 ERIN COURT, NE4V BRIGHTON, MINNESOTA 55112). Mr. Tlichael Rotter was present for the request. Mr. Boardman stated that the Planning Commission has approved a Special Use Permit for the establishment of a mabile home sales site with the following stipulations: 1. Site development (lands caping and lighting) to be approved by the Building Standards-Design Control Subcommittee. 2. 3. Special Use Permit be allowed for a three year period. Precast curbing will be allowed for the three year period. � Mr. Boardman discussed the completion of the parking lot, to be done by October 1, 1975. Landscaping, as presented, should also be completed by October 1, 1975. h1r. Rotter discussed the use of Class V blacktop and the fact that the landscaping on the south side may be damaged because of the moving of the mobile homes. bir. Boardman stated that he would prefer the lot was not alI blacktopped. He said he would like to have precast curbing on the south side to prevent the breaking up of the blacktop. Mr. Boardman stafied that there would b e a three year period on the precast curbing and after that time Mr. Rotter must put in poured concrete curbing. He also asked that a wooden fence be placed on the lot one month after the trailers are placed on the lot. Mr. Rotter agreed to both of these items. Mr. Boardman stated the sod can be put down by next fall and the tree p2an could consist of a mixture of maple, green ash and linden. Chairman Lindblad recommended the proposed site be sent to the City Council for approval with the following stipulations: 1. A Special Use Pe'rmit to operate a mobile home sales lot is giuen only to Michael.B. Rotter_as an individual and he will b e the operator of the business. If the b usin�ss changes hands or he no longer is majority owner and operator of the business, the permit will be null and void, and would have to be reviewed by /'1 the Ci.ty Council before t�ansfer. �1. . �� BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCONL'�IITTEE MEETING OF OCTOBER 10, 1974-P . 4 2. The office trailer will be blocked on concrete blocks and the base will b e skirted with aluminum. The oifice will.be connected to utilities; such as water, sewer, gas and electricity. 3. Two restrooms will be installed in the office for the public's use. 4• The office trailex to be taxed as a permanent structure. 5. There will be no permanent residents in the mobile homes and no repairing or storage of damaged trailers. 6. There will 1�e a minimum of 10 feet of space b etween the trailers. 7. The public and employee parking lot area to be b2acktopped by October 1, 1975. S. Provide a wood screening fence along the north property Iine as shown on approved site plan. This fence must be in place within one month o£ the placing of the first mobile home. Precast curb will be glaced along the entrance and along the parking area for customers for a period of the Special Use Permit (3 yrs. maxi,mum), at which time, if use is continuec� permanent curbing must be installed. 9. The land will b e kept clean and fr�e of debris, junk and unsightly matexials and all green areas will be kept free of weeds, cut and well groomed. ^ 10. There will be no washouts on the property due to surface drainage and if there are any, these will be filled and taken care of immediately. 11. Tke landscaping be completed as shown on the approved plan by October 1,.1975. All lighting be directed away from the existing mobile home residential area. 12. Al1 signs will comply with the requirements of the Sign Ordinance. 13. This Sgecial Use Permit be issued for a maximum of three years or ta run � concurrently with the lease, which ever is less. Chairman Lindblad wished to take this time to recognize special a�pxe�iation to Paula Long for�her help as the secretary for this Board. Mr. Boardman discussed the Educational Program and said that due to the fact of a limited budget, this program cannot b e started until January 1, 1975. Chairman Lindblad adjourned the meeting at 9:05 p,m. Respectfully submitted, . C��e�' ��9�� Arlene Smith, Secretary � �,J THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF APPEP�I,S SI7BCOMMITTEE MEETING OF OCTOBER 15, 1974 The meeting was called to order by Chairman Drigans at 7:32 P.M. ^ MEMBERS PRESENT: Drigans, Crowder, Gabel, Plemel MEMBERS ABSENT: Wahlberg OTHERS PRESENT: Howard Mattson, Engineering Aide MOTION by Gabel, seconded by Crowder, to approve the minutes of the September 10, 1974 meeting as written. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. � 1. A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF SECTION 205 053, 4, B4, FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO REDUCE 7.'HE MININUM SIDE YARD SETBACK AD.IOINING Ai'V ATTACHED ACCESSORY BUILDING, FROM 5 FEET TO 3 FEET (PLUS OR �IINUS) TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A GREENHOUSE ONTO THE SIDE OF A DWELLING, iOCATED ON LOT 8, DENNIS ADDITION THE SAME BEING 1315 - 66TH AVENUE P1.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOT�. (REQUEST BY MS. BETTY ANN MECH, 1315 - 66TH AVENUE N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA.) Ms..Mech was present to present her request. She presented a letter of "no objection" from her neighbors, Mr. & Mrs. Edward Simko, also a drawing showing the location of her house in relation to the lot line and also the Simko house in relation to the lot line, and also a slide of the greenhouse. Mr. Mattson showed the Board a photograph he had taken showing the Mech dwelling. MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Plemel, to waive reading the public hearing notice. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Ms. Mech explained this is a 10' x 10' greenhouse that she has moved from � Rochester, Minnesota. She said it is her hobby to raise rock garden plants, that she uses as gifts and for herself but that she will not be seliing thern. � Mr. Crowder questioned the foundation. Ms. Mech said she will have 4 foot concrete posts and the greenhause has 8 angle irons with it. Chairman Drigar.s questioned the access. Ms. Mech stated there will be no door from the dwelling into the gr�enhouse. The door of the greenhouse is on the end so to gain access, you have to come out of the dwelling. Chairman Drigans questioned the h�atinq facilities. Ms. Mech said it will have either electric or gas heat, and she has already talked to the gas company about it. Ms. Mech added that the greenhouse will be screened and hardly visible to her neighbors because of the existing Russian Olive and evergreens, She said she couldn't put the greenhouse onto the back of the dwelling because it needs exposure to the sun. Chair.nan Drigans asked if any of the other neighbors had been contacted. Ms, Mech said she talked to all of them. Mr. Cr�wder questioned the lighting. Ms. Mech said it will not be lit all the time but only occasionally. Mr. Pleme� questioned the greenhouse construction. Ms. Mech said it was all glass and she added it was old but solidly built. � � � Page 2 The Minutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee Meeting of October I5, 1974 �� Chairman Drigans asked Mr. Mattson if the greennouse must comply with the fxost footing requirement in tne Code. Mr. Mattson said that it would have to comply as it was being attached to the dwelling. Mr. Crowder questioned the distance between structures. It was determined that there is 29 feet now, that will be reduced to 19 feet with the addition of the greenhouse. MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Plemel, to receive; 1. The scaled drawing of the lot showing the house locations in relation to the common lot line. 2. The letter of no objectian from Mr. & Mrs. Edward Simko. 3. The slide of the greenhouse. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. MOTION by Plemel, seconded by Gabel, to close the public hearing. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried, Mrs. Gabel said she had no objections as long as the neighbors don't object. Mr. Crowder said Ytis biggest concern would be the neighbors as the greenhouse will be heated and lit occasionally. He said as long as the neighbors don't object and the greenhouse must have the exposure to the sun, he had no objections. Chairman Brigans 5aid the hardship is that the greenhouse is already constructed and cannat be reduced. MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Gabel, to recommend to the City Council, approval of the variance for the hardships stated. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays the motion carried. 2. A REQUEST FOR VARIANCES OF: SECTION 205 135, 1, E1, FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO REDLTCE THE SETBACK FOR OFF-STREET PARKING, FROM 20 FEET FROM THE FRONT LOT LINE TO ZERO FEET, TO ALLOW PAVING UP TO THE SIDE LOT LINE, AND, SECTION 205.136, 1, TO A�LCT�r� BLACKTOPPING, IIZSTEr�D OF PLANTED GROUND COVER, OF THE BOULEVARD AREA ALONG THE SIDE YARD, ON LOT l, BLOCK 3, EAST RANCH ESTATES 2ND ADDITION, THE SAME BEING 7880 RANCHERS RQAD N.s�., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA tREQUEST BY MICHAEL BIZAL, 5000 FILLMORE STREET N.E., MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA - GRAHAM TESTERS, INC.) Mr. Michael J. Bizal, Vice President of Graham Testers, Ine., was present to present the request. . MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Gabel, to waive reading the public hearing notice. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. A plot plan for the property was shown to the Board. Mr. Bizal said the property was developed as shown on the plan, except for the area in question. He said this area was supposed to have an island between the loading area and the employee parking area. He said they wanted it�completely paved because: 1. Snow removal; more room to push snow and maneuver the plow. 2. Use as holding area; sometimes there is more than one truck delivering and the island removal would create a holding place for the second truck. 3. Better appearance; some of the trucks back in to unload and backing over curbing will crack it. He added it will look better to have it all blacktopped rather than have cracked curbing. Chairman Drigans asked if the plot plan showing the island was approved by Building Standards and Council. Mr. Mattson said this area was approved to be all green area and then apparently during discussions with City staff, the green area was changed to be just an island. � _ F�� The Minutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee Meeting of October 15, 1974 Mr. Bizal stated they want plenty of room to get in the winter at their other location. He added � doing their landscaping as a school project. around as they have had problems that the Fridley High School is Mr. Crowder questioned the parking. Mr. Bizal said they have approximately 20 employees and they have 40 plus stalls so the parking is adequate. He added it was designed with the future in mind. Chairman Drigans asked wha.t the hardship was in this case. Mr. Bizal said if you have to pile snow in this area, you will be losing room and that is a hardship and they would like this area for a holding area. Chairman Drigans asked if they have done anything to this area yet. Mr. Bizal said when they had the parking area blacktopped, they had the green area blacktopped also. � Chairman Drigans asked if they knew a variance was required before they were allowed to blacktop the green area. Mr. Bizal said they were aware they needed a variance, but they thought it would be more economical to blacktop it with the parking lot, on the hope that the variance would be approved. Chairman Drigans noted that when the plot plan went through Building Standards and Council, the area in question was all green area. Then Graham Testers came back with a proposal for just an island and the rest blacktop. Now they are going one step further to eliminate the island and blacktop the whole thing. M�c. Mattson said he dro�e by this building and they had created quite a presentable building. Mr. Crowder asked what is between the building and the paved area. Mr. Bizal said there is crushed decorative rock with curbing. Chairman Drigans asked how wide the boulevard is, that will be blacktopped. Mr. Mattson said that he didn't know exactly, but he thought it was about an 8 foot boulevard. Chairman Drigans asked how many parking stalls were created by blacktopping the green area and removing the island. Mr. Bizal said 4 stalls were added plus one space for truck stopping. MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Gabel, to close the public hearing. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Chairman Drigans stated that he felt that even though the petitioner has already indicated the blacktopping has been completed, the Board should base their decision on the merits of the hardships stated. Mrs. Gabel said as much as she would like to see the green area retained, she would still like the trucks off the street. Mr. Plemel said he couldn't go along with the hardship for snow removal. He felt it was not the Boards'duty to coordinate this with the City staff but you can't ^ iqnore that the work is already done. He felt there should be some way to prevent this in the future. He felt this is a nice building, and the variance is a minor matter. Mr. Crowder said he basically agreed. He felt the petitioner is entirely at fault, deciding on his own to eliminate the green area. raye � !� The Minutes af the Board of A eals Subcommittee Meetin of October 15, 1974 �� Chairman Drigans stated he felt the snow removal hardship was stretching it quite far. He said if the request was granted strictiy for the reason of snow removal, the Board would be deluged by requests to blacktop as it is so easy to maintain. /� He said the holding area is a good reason. He said the blacktopping was done by the petitioner on his own, knowing he was in violation. He said he was concerned with this area as he didn't know how anything big could be maintained here. He said it does identify a division between the loading area and the employee entrance. He said a real hardship has not been established in his mind. Mr. Bizal said the only reason they went ahead with this, without approval, was the economic standpoint. MOTION by Plemel, seconded by Crowder, to recammend to the City Council, approval of the two requests because of the economic factor. Upon a voice vote, Gabel abstaining, the motion carried. 3. A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF SECTION 205 053, 1B, FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT_AREA REQUIRED, ON A PLAT RECORDED BEFORE DECEMBER 29, I955, FROM 7500- �UARE FEET TO 5500 SQUARE FEET, TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A DWELLING ON LOTS 15 AND 16, BLOCK I, RIVERVIEW HEIGHTS, THE SAi�IE BEING 531 FAIRMONT STREET N,Eo, FRIDLEY MINNESOTA. (REQUEST BY NORTH METRO CONSTRUCTION, INC., 5203 CENTRAL AVENUE N.F., MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA.) Mr. Dennis Barker was present to present the request. MOTION by Plemel, seconded by Gabel, to waive reading the public hearing notice. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. �,., Mr. Barker explained they plan to build a 864 square foot split entry dwelling on this lot. There will be no garage and it will meet all the setback requirements. Chairman Drigans asked if the Code didn't require a garage to be built. Mr. Mattson explained a garage is only required on lots with 9,000 square feet or more. On smaller lots, one off-street parking stall must be provided. Mr. Barker said they will be installing a 10 foot wide blacktop driveway. Mr. Frank Steen, 521 Fairmont 5treet N.E., and Mr. John Witscher, 537 Fairmont Street N.E., were present ta voice their objections to the variance. Mr. Crowder asked if there was a buyer for this home. Mr. Barker said they have several buyers for their homes, they just don't know where they will put them yet. Mr. Witscher stated they have split entry homes behind them that are so large there is no back yard. He said if the geople have children, there will be no place for them to play but in the streeto Mr. Crowder said the applicant can build as big a house as the Code will allow and the Board 'nas no say about it. The only thing the Board can act on is the variance on lot area. Mr. Barker said this house will have a 55 foot back yard using the average front yard setback, which is as big as new developments, Mro Steen said he felt the houses are getting too close together in this area and ^ the Codes should be complied with. Mr. Witscher said they had tried ta buy the lots, but they were outbid by North Metro Construction. �� ^ � ^ raye � The t�inutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee Meeting of October Z5, 1974 � `� Chairman Drigans said they have to understand the developers intent to use the �� lot and develop it. He said there are quite a few of these sized lots in Fridley that were platted before 1955 and need only 7500 square feet of lot area. Mr. Steen said they bought the land knowing that they needed to change the Code to build on it. Chairman Drigans said its not that they are changing the Code, it is letting the City control the type of construction on this size lot. He added some lots need variances to let people develop the land. Mr. Crowder said it looks like a good house for the area. Mr. Plemel said this lot was picked up at the County tax forfeit auction. He said both the County and the City want these lots used and bringing in revenue. MOTION by Gabel, seconded by Plemel, to close the public hearing. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Mr. Crowder stated he sympathized with the neighbors as it is easier to have the lot vacant, but from the Board's standpoint, this is a lot where more property can not be obtained on either side. He said it is a buildable lot but it does not meet Code. He said the Board has granted otner variances of this type in this area. Mrs. Gabel and Mr. Plemel agreed. MOTION by Gabel, seconded by Plemel, to recommend to the City Council, approval of the lot area variance. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. 4. A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF SECTION 205 053, 1B, FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO REDL'CE T:�'E MINIMUM LOT AREA RE UIRE�, ON A PLAT RECORDED BEFORE DECEMBF'R 29, 1955, FRQM i�GO SQUARE FEET TO 5500 SQIIARE FEET, TO ALLOW THE CONSfiRUCTION OF A DWELLING ON LGTS 37 AND 38, BLOCK V, RIVERVIEW HEIGHTS, THE SAME BEING 640 ELY STREET N.E., r^RIDLr�Y, MINNESOTA. (REQUEST BY NORTEi METRO CONSTRUCTION, INC., 5203 CENTRAL AVENUE N E MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA.) � Mr. Dennis Barker was present to present the request. MOTION by Plemel, seconded by Gabel, to waive reading the public hearing notice. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Mr. & Mrs. Bill Erickson, 650 Ely Street, were present to voice their objections. Mr. Barker explained they plan to build the same split entry on this lot as on 531 Fairmont only narrower. He said there will be no garage and they will meet all the setback requirements. Mr. Erickson said when his contractor built his home, in 1965, he had wanted to buy these lots and then make two building sites that would have been 62 feet wide, but the City wouldn't let him do it, Now this man is trying to build on just 50 feet. He said he didn't think there was any difference now than then. Mr. Crowder said the Code is the same as it was then. He said Mr. Erickson's contractor could have asked £or a variance and a lot split but now there is no other land available to buy. !�'!!� Page 6 The Minutes of the Board of App�als Subcommittee Meeting of October 15, I974 "� -a� � Mr. Erickson stated the house that is being constructed on the corner (600 Ely Street) had to be raised up to meet the flood plain requirements. He said if � this house has to be raised that high, the basement level will be even with our first story. Chairman Drigans noted that if this house is in the flood plain, it wil.l have to get a Special Use Permit approved before it can be built. He explained to Mr. Barker that the City recently passed a flood plain ordinance that has to be complied with. Mr. Erickson asked if there would be another meeting to determine the el.evation that is necessary. Chairman Drigans said this Board can only act on the variance and the Specia7. Use Permit would have to be approved by the Planning Commission so there would be notices mailed out. Mr. Crowder asked how high the flood came on Mr. Erickson's house. Mr. Erickson said he wasn't in it then but he was told it covered about 7 blocks. Mr. Erickson said there is only one other 50 foot building site in the area. He said he didn't think of bidding on this lot when it was put up for sale at the tax forfeit auction because he was under the impression it couldn't be built on. He said he would be willing to buy these lots from Mr. Barker if they couldn't build on them. Mr. Erickson also said this lot is the drainage path for this area and where is the water going to go it he builds? Chairman Driqans said it has been the policy of the Board to approve a lot area variance if the lot is buildable if the applicant can meet all the other Codes ^ and get financing and if the lot has good soil conditions. He added the Board can only act on the variance. The other items such as drainage and eievations are handled by other departments of the City. Mr. Crowder asked Mr. Barker if he would be willing to sell the lots if they prove somewhat unbuildable as Mr. Erickson has indicated he might be willing to buy them. Mr. Barker said he would first have to check into the flood plain ordinance requirements. Mr. Crowder asked what the next step would be for Mr. Barker if the variance was approved. Mr. Mattson said he would have to come into City Hall to check on the elevation requirement and see if it is possible to meet all the other flood plain regulations. MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Plemel, to close the public hearing. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Chairman Drigans stated that if the variance was approved, it would have to be subject to meeting the approval of the flood plain ordinance and/or approval of a Special Use Permit. MOTION by Plemel, seconded by Crowder, to recou¢nend to the City Council, approval of the variance subject to meeting the approval of the flood plain ordinance and/or approval of a Special Use Permit. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. ^ 5. A REQUEST FOR A VARIANGE CF SECTION 205 053, 1B, FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO REDUCE THE N�INIr1UM LOT AREA REQUIRED ON A PLAT RECORDED BEFORE DEC:EMBER 29, 1955. FROM 750� SOUARE FEET TO 651.1.9 S4UARE r^EET TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A Dv�IELLING ON LOTS 30 AND 31, BLOCK 7, SPRING BROOK PARK ADD TTC�N Tg��Ar,tF $ETNC' 'J9gg EAST Page 8 The Minutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee Meeting of October 15, 1974� �� v, , � Chairman Drigans said he would prefer if Mr. Barker would negotiate with a buyer to find out what type of house is to be built and see if any additional variances are needed. He added that when an item has to come back to the Board, the applicant � is taking up the Board's time twice and also asking the adjoining property owners to come back twice. Mrs. Gabel stated that if the Board were to deny this variance, the same variance could not come back to the Board for 6 months. Mr. Barker said he planned to build a 22� foot x 40 foot dwelling that would meet all the Codes. He said it would be a tight fit on the lot but that it would fit. MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Gabel, to table this item until the petitioner can present a plan of the house of the lot that either does or does not need additional variances. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Chairman Drigans added that if the house needs other variances, that new notices be sent out to the adjoining property owners. 6. A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF SECTION 205.053, 1B, FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT AREA RE UIRED, ON A PLAT RECORDED BEFORE DECEMBER 29, 1955, FROM 7500 SQUARE FEET TO 6600 S�UARE FEET, TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A DWELLII3G ON LOTS 30 AND 31., BLOCK X, RIVERVIEW HEIGHTS, THE SAME BEING 600 CHERYL STREET N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA. (REQUEST BY NOT2TH METRO CONSTRUCTION, 5203 CENTRAL AVENUE N.E., MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA. 55421) Mr. Dennis Barker was present to present the request. ^ MOTION by Plemel, seconded by Crowder, to waive reading the pubiic hearing notice. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Mr. Clark Nason, 614 Cheryl Street, and Mr. James Anderson, 609 Cheryl Street, were present to voice their objections. Mr. Barker said he proposes a 36 foot by 24 foot dwelling on this lot. Mr. Anderson questioned the elevation of the basement floor to the street. Mr. Barker said the elevation would be whatever the City requires. Mr. Mattson said this property is also in the flood plain. The present street elevation by this lot is 6 feet lower than the 100 year flood plain and the house will have to be positioned 2 feet higher than this measurement so it will have to be raised approximately 8 feet. Mr. Anderson commented that it will be a weird house if it sits up that high. Mr. Mattson added that there could be some variation in the 8 feet if the house is waterproofed. Mr. Nason questioned the amount of fill required. He asked how Mr. Barker will be able to keep all the fill on his lot, Chairman Drigans stated that this Board only acts on the variance. He said the elevation and drainage will have to be checked by other City departments. Mr. Nason also asked about the two vacant lots (Lots 28 & 29) next to this property. Chairman Drigans asked Mr. Barker if he had tried to buy these lots. ^ Mr. Barker said he had contacted Mr. Kotzer, the o�,mer of the lots, and Mr. Kotzer had told him the lots had gone tax forfeit. Mr. Barker said he then called the County and was toid the lots were tax delinquent but they were still redeemable by the owner. Page 9 The Minutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee Meeting of October 15, 1974 Chairman Drigans noted that Lots 28 and 29 are both 25 foot lots and the two that �� Mr. Barker own are both 30 foot lots. This would ma.ke 110 feet if they were combined. Mrs. Gabel asked Mr. Barker if he would be willing to buy the adjoining lots if he could get them. Mr. Barker said he didn't think so because his buyers for the house do not want a garage and with that big of a lot, it is required to build a garage. Mr. Crowder asked Mr. Nason if he would be willing to buy the lots and then sell 10 feet to Mr. Barker to give him the minimum lot area. Mr. Nason said he would if the price was right. Mr. Nason added he did not want to see this house 8 feet above his house. Mr. Barker said he thought he would go with the water- proofing requirements, if possible, rather than the high elevation. Chairman Drigans stated the Board's policy has been to deny the variance when there is additional property to acquire. He said some agreement could be worked out between Mr. Barker and Mr. Nason and the owner of Lots 28 and 29. He added a denial of this variance would require the applicant to wait 6 months before coming back to the Board with the same request. Mr. Plemel stated that it might be more feasible to see if a building permit could be issued on this lot and if Mr. Barker could comply with all the flood plain requirements before acting on the variance. Mr. Barker said he would agree with this and would prefer the Board to table the item. MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Gabel, to table this request until the petitioner comes back with more information on the adjoining lots (Lots 28 & 29) and with ^ information on what has to be done to comply with the flood plain regulations. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Chairman Drigans stated he wanted notices mailed out again an this item, when the petitioner is ready to come back before the Board. 7, A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF SECTION 205 053, 1B, FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO REDUCE 'T'A� MINIMUM LOT AREA REQUIRED, ON A PLAT RECORDED BEFORE DECEMBER 29, 1955, FROM 7500 S UARE FEET TO 7358.4 S UARE FEET, TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A DWELLING ON � LOTS 25 AND 26, BLOCK l�, SPP.ING BROOK PARK ADDITION, THE SAME BEING ?_QO ELY STREET N.E., FRIDLFY, MINN�SOTA. (REQUEST BY NORTH METRO CONSTRUCTION, INC., 5203 GENTRAL AVENUE N.E., MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA.) Mr. Aennis Barker was present to present the request. MOTION by Plemel, seconded by Crowder, to waive reading the public hearing notice. Upon a vaice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Mr. Crowder asked if the alley along the back lot line has been vacated, because it it was, he would have enough lot area. Mr. Mattson said the alley has not been vacated. Chairman Drigans read a letter from Mr. Edward Bishop, 212 Ely Street N.E., which stated his objections to the variance. /'� MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Plemel, to receive the letter from Mr. Bishop. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. Page 10 The Minutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee Meeting Of October 15, 1974 Mr. Barker said he plans to build a 24 foot by 40 foot dwelling with a garage. ,�� He said he could fit the structure on the lot without additional variances. � MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Gabel, to close the Public hearing. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. MOTION by Crowder, seconded by Gabel, to recommend to the City Council, approval of the variance. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned by Chairman Drigans at 11:00 P.M. Respectfully submitted, ' � , ` / L�� M1�RY HINTZ� j Secretary �� ^ ' \ �e' . � �. . �� CITY OF FRIDLEY PLATS & SUI3DIVISIONS- STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OCTOBER 16, 1974 PAGE 1 CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Harris called the meeting to order at 8:00 P.M. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Members Absent: Others Present: Harris, Christensen, Meissner, French Forster Darrel Clark, Community Development Administrator APPROVE PLATS & SUBDIVISIONS-STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: AUGUST 14, 1974 MOTION by Meissner, seconded by Christensen, that the P1ats & Subdivisions-5treets & Utilities S�ubcommittee minutes of August 14, Z974 be approved as written. Upon a voice vote, a1.Z voting,_;_aye, the motion carried unanimously. � . 1. CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLA T, P.S. #74-06, ZANDER'S 1ST ADDITION, BY DAILEY HOMES INC.: A replat of Lot 3, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, except the North 169 feet�of the West 164 feet �thereof, generally located South of 61st Avenue N.E.,•.between � Benjamin Street and Me Kinley 5treet N.E. ^ Mr. Howard C. Thorson of Dailey Homes, Ine. was present. Mr. Clark said that this was the only unplatted land in this general block. The property in this area belongs to Mr. Zanders with the exception of that belonging to Mr. Ken Korin, which is on the Northwest corner of this plat. The street d�3ication on this plat for 61st Avenue where it n;eetsMc Kinley is sriown as 25 feet. He said he had checked with the Engineering Department and they reported that they didn't need 25 feet because the road is already ther� so 20 feet would be adequate. This five feet would be added to Lot 6 to make it 80 feet, which is what we need on a corner lot. As far as the balance of the plat was concerned, the shape and size of the lots are pretty much dictated by the size and shape of the parcel. Mr. Clark said he had talked to Mr. Ken Korin who is present at this meeting, and there is a discrepancy in the surveys. Mr. Korin had a survey made l.8 years ago, and again about 5 or 6 years ago. The survey of the proposed plat shows a four foot difference where the south line of Mr. Korin's property meets the north line of this plat. According to Mr. Korin, if this survey is right, wher� 61st Avenue exis-cs, it would lie on his property. Mr. Clark said he hoped this survey was wrong. He said that Pine Tree Builders had just platted on one corner, Briardale was a new plat on another corner. Andy Go�ael and Amber Oaks are quite new plats, so in checking all these plats, they should come to one point on this corner. Mr. Clark said that although Mr. Korin questions the survey line , �1 ��l Plats & 5ubs.-Str. & Util. Sub. Meeting October 16, 1974 Page 2 on this plat, he didn't know what the Subcommittee could do at this time, in the consideration of the preliminary plat. Mr. Korin, 6051 Benjamin Street N.E., said he wanted the survey line resolved before this plat was finalized. He continued that the survey line he has used has been registered with the City for 18 years. He said that the stake in his yard has been used by others in determining their property lines, so if this stake is off, other property lines wou_ld be off also. Mr. Korin said he didn't think it was up to him to prove where his property was located and thought the new survey would have to be rechecked. Mr. Clark said that surveys aren't registered with the County, but Mr. Korin did have the property surveyed 18 years ago and has been occupying the land according to this survey. Mr. Clark continued that sometimes the survey will indicate three points in his surveying, the pro-rated line, the platted distance and the occupation line. Mr. Korin said he just wanted the Subcommittee to be aware that there was a discrepanc �in the line, because after everything was finalized, it would be too late to have this problem resolved; and also he wanted to check on the d�ainage plan. Mr. French said this was just the first of many steps in the process of getting a plat approved. Mr. Clark said the drainage is shown on the plat. The dash lines are existing elevations and the solid lines are the proposed ^ elevations. Mx. Thorson said Mr. Korin's property would still drain the same way as it is now. Mr. Clark said they are extending an inlet for drainage. �1 Mr. Korin said that at the time Benjamin Street was put in, Mr. Qureshi said he could drop this street one foot for drainage or use the money to put in a drain south of his property. Mr. Korin said he wanted both, but he couldn't have both, so he didn't think the drain was low enough to drain his property. Mr. Clark said that on this plat there was a catch basin south of Mr. Korin's south property line. It shows an invert of 839.94. Then they show 92 feet of pipe going east, with an inlet elevation of 940.3. These figures can be verified, but it should be ].ow enough t:o drain Mr. Korin's yard. Mr. Clark asked Mr. Korin if there was a low spot in his l�ack yard. Mr. Korin said he had it graded that way so it would drain away from his house and drain into a hole south of his pnoperty. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark if it was the intent of this plat to balance the fill. Mr. Clark said no, there would be a lot of excess fill. Mr. Harris asked the soil conditions on the plat. Mr. Clark said there was about 2 feet of clay, overlying gravel. Mr. Harris said there is an existing house that is going to be moved onto Lot 1, and set where that hole that's used for drainage is now, is this correct? Mr. Thorson said it was. Mr. Harris asked if the would be any problem with this. Mr. Thorson said any bacl soil would have to come out and the fill would have to be compacted. �� Plats & Subs ,-Str & Util. Sub. Meeting October 16, 1974 Page 3, Mr. Harris asked how old this house was and what improvements � would have to be made to bring it up to code. Mr.. Thorson said it was about 30 to 35 years old, and would have to be updated as far as heating, plumbing and electricity were concerned. He said that structurally, the house was in pretty good condition. Mr. Harris asked if this house had a garage. Mr. Clark said no, and if this house was going to have a garage, it would probably have to be a tuck under, because of the elevations of the lot where this house was going to be placed. Mr. Harris said that essentially there wouldn't be any vegetation left on this property after grading. Mr. Clark said r�o, because the entire property will have to be regraded. There might be some trees that could be saved on the south end of this property on the boulevards. Mr. Thorson said they made it a policy to save every tree they could, but he couldn't see that many trees could be saved on this plat. Mr. Harris asked if all the lots would meet the minimum requirement: Mr. Clark said they all would except the corner lot mentioned befaxe, which would meet the requirements af ter the 20 foot dedication for 61st instead of 25 feet. Mr. Harris said that 61st is only half dedicated then. Mr. Clark said yes, it was only about a 25 foot street. Mr. Harris said this makes it a substandard street. Mr. Clark said there was a five foot dedication for this street af ter Briardale was platted that doesn't ^ show on the map, which gives the City a 30 foot right of way and with this additional 20 feet from this plat, they will have the standard 50 foot right of way the City usually has in residential areas. Mr. Harris said there is no dedication on Mr. Korin's property and if this street was widened to a standard street of 31 to 36 feet, it will have to be narrower in front of Mr. Korin's property and this would be a bottleneck as far as traffic flow. - Mr. Korin said that at the time 61st Avenue was going in, he fought against this street. He said he had owned his property for 18 years and had built his house so that eventually he could split his property and sell off a building site. If he gave the City an easement for this street, he would be left with 3/4 of a lot, so instead of just giving up the easement, he would be losing a lot he could eventually sell. He said he never wanted this part of his lot to be a corner lot so he couldn't meet the lot requirements. Mr. Harris said he thought this problem was going to have to be dealt with some time, because this was creating a potential traffic hazard. � Mr. Meissner asked the dimensions of Mr. Korin's existing house, north to south. Mr. Korin said he was annexing 5 feet from Mr. Zander to make his lot 169 feet. His garage should be 10 feet from the property line then, his house was 36 feet with an 18 foot addition, which would make a tot�l�of 88 feet. He would have 81 feet left, according to his � survey. Mr. Meissner said these figures don.'t allow for the 10 foot sideyard required on this existing house, so this would make the part of the lot Mr. Korin would like to sell someday as only 71 feet, which wouldn't meet the 80 foot requirement for a corner lot. Mr. Korin said �"� �3 Plats & Subs.-Str. & Util. Sub. Meet�ng - October 16, 1974 Page 4 foot descrepanc.y. couldn't be the new surveyor was helping him out because of the 4 � Mr. Meissner said he was aware of this problem, but it solved at this meeting. Mr. Korin said he was concerned about the survey discrepancy and the drainage, otherwise he had no objection to this proposed plat. Mr. Christensen asked if the conflict on the surveying should hold up the Subcommittee's recommenda�ion on this plat, or could it be made a stipulation. ��ir. Meissner said this would have to be resolved before any final approval could be given on the plat. Mr. Clark said he thought it should be stipulated that the conflict between the two surveys would have to be resolved, that there should be utility easement along the back property lines of the plat, and a storm sewer easement for the pipe adyacent to the south property line to the exception in this plat. Mr. Korin asked who would check that this catch basin would take care of his drainage problems so he didn't get water in his basement? Mr. Clark said this pipe is at least 4 feet below your basement and it's a minimum of a 12" pi�e, so it should take care of all the drainage. Mr. Meissner asked if Mr. Korin had a problem af ter this plat was developed, who would he seek redress from? He said he supposed it would be a legal problem that would have to be resolved in court.. Mr. Clark said that if Mr. Korin would allow his property to be ^ disturbed, th�re could be a swale put in on his property on the east side, and part of the drainage could go to 61st Street. Mr. Korin said he would have no objection to this. He said he didn't think it would be that much of a swale and he was most concerned about water eoming. ;-nto his basement. Mr. Thorson asked Mr. Korin if he wanted an agreement drawn up. Mr. Korin said he didn`t think that was necessary. He has stated that he would allow this encroachment on his property so that a swale could be provided, and he thought this was enough. Mr. Meissner told Mr. Korin that this would be a private agreement between T-t_r. Korin and Dailey Homes. The City could stipulate that an agreement be reached between the two parties, but how much Mr. Korin's property would be c�isturbed would be something that would have to be worked out with Dailey Homes. Mr. Korin said he felt this would be a safety valve for the drainage of his property. He said that wh�n there were heavy rains, there would be about 8 feet of water in that hole south of his property, and he ju�st felt that the pipe could not handle that much water. Mr. Korin said if there was a swale on his property, and also on Lot 6 of this plat, he thought this would solve the drainage prob- lem for his lot, as the overflow water would go to 61st Avenue. Mr. Harris :asked Mr. Thorson if he was going to run overhead or underground utilities? NIr. Thorson said he thought they would be underground. Mr. Harris asked about the charge for this. Mr. Korin said he worked for the power company and this was sort of up .in the air right now. They did have it so that there was a flat rate of $220 for underground utilities or the option of paying $2 per month. There was a court case on this`charqe, so he couldn't say what the policy would be until this court case was settled. Mr. Clark �Qld th� � ^ �� Plats & Subs -Str & t3tilities Sub Meeting - October 16, 1974 Page 5 Subcommittee that he thought they should get a representative out from N.S.P. at one of their future meetings to explain the policy. Mr. Korin said it was true that it cost more to find problems with underground utilities than overhead utilities. Mr. French said the Subcommittee usually stipulated that one tree be planted on each lot, 2" in diameter, and due to the amount of grading needed on this property, this would be needed. MOTIDN by French, seconded by Christenson, that the Plats & Subdivi- sions-Streets & Utilities Subcommittee recommend to the Planning Commissian, approval of the proposed p1at, P.S. #74-06, Zander`s lst Addition, by Dailey Homes, Inc., being a replat of Lot 3, Auditor`s Subdivision No. 92, except the North 169 feet of the West 164 feet thereof; generalZ� located south of 61st Avenue between Benjamin Street and Mc Kinley Street N.E., with the following stipulations: Survey problems must be resolved. 1. 2. Provide an easement for the storm sewer as shown on the p1at. 3. Provide an easement along the rear Iot Zines for other utilities. � 5. Solve the drainage problems with Mr. Korin. Provide one tree per Zot, 2" in diameter. 6. Reduce the street dedication for 6lst Avenue frorrc 25 feet to 20 feet, so Lot 6 wi1.� have the required SO' front footage. 7. Provide underground utilities. Upon a voice vote, aZ1 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Korin said he hoped the drainage could be worked out so this plat wouldn't be finalized without it. Mr. Thorson said that this was one of the stipulations of the plat and it wouldn't be approved without an agreement. Mr. Meissner said all the contour lines would have to be adjusted to show how the drainage problems were going to be resolved. If there is some sort af written agreement needed, this will have to be part of the plat at the time it is submitted for final approval. Mr. Harris said he wanted the minutes to show that he disagreed with the street layout of 61st Avenue as it presently exists. He said Y�e thought it was a traffic hazard and just plain bad planning. Mr. Clark said he knew the City did try to get the street dedication from both Mr. Korin and Mr. Zander at the time 61st � Street was going in. It got to the point of no return. Mr. Meiss�ner said the lot Mr. Korin has left is a substandard lot at the present time. ti �� I Plats & Subs.-Str. & Util. Sub. 1�Ieetin - October 16, 1974 Pa e 6 �i 2. CONSIDERATION OF A VACATION REQUEST, SAV #74-04, BY JERRY GUIMONT: Vacate that portion of a 15 foot utility easement needed for a /� 30' x 24` addition to an existing garage locatzd on Lot 12, Block 5,' ice Creek P1aza South Addition, the same being 6551 2nd Street N.E.I R , Mr. Clark said we have letters from the four utility companies involved, saying that they have no objection to vacating that portion of the 15 foot easement the garage slab is sitting on. The surveyor has not as yet given us an exact description of what is to be vacated, but when he does, we will set up a hearing on this vacation. There is a 25 foot easement in this area, and the 30 foot addition to the garage will encroach about 7 feet into this easement. The telephone pole will be about 1 foot from this garage, but the power company says they have no objection to this, and they will not move the pole, because this is on a corner, and would cost about $2,000 to move. This pole is used by N.S.P, Northwestern Bell and General Televi- sion. Mr. Clark said that as long as the four utility companies have no objection to this encroaohment,�and there is no objection from the City Engineering Department, he �s�w no reason this vacation shouldn't be 3ranted. Mr. Meissner asked if the slab was already there. Mr. Clark said it would be by Octaber 17th. Mr. Meissner asked if they had a building permit. Mr. Clark said they did. Mr. Meissner said he strongly resented people putting the City ! /, in the position of having to approve something that was already a fact., We are being asked to approve something that has already been given away. Mr. Clark said that it was either that, or the petitioner couldn't build a garage until next year. Mr. Meissner said that wasn't the point, the City should not be forced into those positions. � Mr. Clark said the pe�i�ti!oner has been working f or about a month to get the letters from the utility companies and getting a surveyor out to his property to 1ay out the positio� of the garage so he would know what vacation he would need. Mr. Meissner said he must have been i.hinking of this earlier than a month ago, so the fact that it is this late in the season should have nothing to do with it. Mr. Clark said there is some question from the attorney's office that the pe�itioner should even have to ask for a vacation of a utility easement when all the utility companies have stated in writing that they have no objection to this encroachment. Mr. Clark said he advised the petitioner to get the vacation, or it could cause problems at the time of the resale of this building, as far as getting a mortgage cammitment. The reason Mr. Guimont wants to add on to the present garage is because this property is a seven unit apartment building and his tenants are asking for garageSnP��haveHearagelspaceff Withetheaadditionr th�re will cars now, but doe g be room for 5 cars in the garage. Mr. Meissner said that in looking at this proposal, he has no objection to the vacation, it's just the putting of th� ea rt before the horse that he objected to. Mr� French said he ag - � • �� Plats & Subs.-Str. & Utilities Sub. Meeting October 16, 1974 Page 7 MOTION by French, seconded by Christensen, that the Plats & Sub- divisions-Streets & Utilities Subcommittee recommend to the Planning � Commission approval of the request for a vacation, SAU #74-04, �y Jerry Guimont, to vacate that portion of a 15 foot utility easement needed for a 30' x 24' addition to an existing garage to be established by a surveyor, located on Lot 12, Block 5, Rice Creek P1aza South Addition, the same being 6551 2nd Street N.E. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Clark said he knew that the City could issue building permits on a utility encroachment if all the utility companies agreed to this in writing because they are�going to allow the Wall Corporation to build their garage for their aparment buil3ing in the pond easement. a 3. DISCUSSION Mr. French asked Mr. Clark if he would check with the telephone company.and see when they were going to clean up the mess they have made in the front yards on Gardena. He said he lives in this area and people know he is on a Committee for the City and have been giving him some heat on this. He said the City had come out with a street sweeper and cleaned up the mess in the streets that they left, but he has been driving over a hump o£ dirt in his driveway for 2 weeks. Mr. Clark said he would call the telephone company. He said that sometime they farm out some of their work and maybe they weren't aware of this problem. Chairman Harris adjourned the meeting at 9:25 P.M. Respectfully submitted, / ��.�� z�'�-�� Dorothy Ev son, Secretary � /1 AIEN10 TO : Members, Planning Cor.nnission �� FROM: Dan Huff, Naturalist�Resource Coordinator RE: Natural History Area. Proposal DATE: September 27, 197�+ I would like to offer my time to meet V�rith yaur commission in regard to m�= Proposa.l for the creation of a syste� of "ITatural History Areas" for the City of Fridley. I feel this system would be un5.ryue in a city the size of Fridley and would offer immeasureable opportunity for educ��tion and enjoyment by our citizens. It would also be an effort at preserving the few rerciaining remna.nts of Fridley's original natural history. If you would like to have me attend one of your meetings, please feel free to contact me. ^ r'1 � �� , �� OFFICIAL NOTICE • � CITY OF FRIDLEY PUBLIC HEARING BFFORE THE � PLANNING COMMISSION TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, October 23, 1974 in the Council Chamber at 8:00 P.M. for the purpose of : Consideration of a Proposed Preliminary PZat, P.S. #74-06, Zander's lst Additian, by Dailey Homes, Inc., being a replat of Lot 3, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, except the North 169 feet of the West 164 feet thereof, lying in the North Half of Section 24, City,of Fridley, County of Anoka, Minnesota. � . Generally located South of 61st Avenue N.E. between Benjamin Street and McKinley Street N.E. Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above matter will be heard at this meeting. EDTin1ARD J. FITZPATRICK CHAIRNIAN PLANNING COMMISSION Publish: October 9, 1974 October 16, 1974 . � :�� = � • y CTTY Or rRIllLL'•Y � MINNI:SOTA • TYI'� Or IZL'-QUEST f�� . PLAI�NING ANI) ZONING FOft�9 - Rezonin� �J � 7`� U� . . . . Special Use � Numbcr � -. Permit . � Approval of. . ��r� Prelimin<ir l'lat Al'PLTCANT' S SIGPdA'fllR � L:� •�"='�'s'� ` Y --- � Approval of Address �'�`� �a .�. 2.� y�.'i Final 1'lat �J Stxeets or. - Tel.epllone Nwnber " �/�� _ Alley V�,cai:a_o,is / Other � -�:�:,�, �` - �� C, PROPI:R1'Y Oi'�'�LR' S SIGN�'1',1RC Address E�c=-� `� � f/✓�.-�.�/ -.�"'`.J �° � �` � . ' : � �� • Telepho�le Number � b . ----.-- � , �� -� ,� .r � � /� Sireet Loca .1. . .i of P,r�o} �erty ,U,�L.� 1 ..{� �.�..-�� `s�%� ..0. / �r-�:-�� %,�-1' �� r � � Lega.l llcscrip�on of Prol�ezty 'i'liE� `�T � of t}ie i�TI: i oi' i�;�e NL �� exr,c�j�t tl�f: lti l�y feet of tllc� ?d 1<tt I�eet tliereof , Sec�tic�ii �tt , To�.�il:s?i:ip 3() R<stip;�; ?%+. titiok� �olxntv, �:lirinesotti . Sui�,j ect tu rc�<jeis ^ Prese�it Zonzn� Classification �y,i�'-- % Existing Use of Property �� ,� Proposed Zoni_n� Classification, Special Use, ar other request �. � . , _ . � �%� . Descxibe Urie y tlle Type of Use and In�pxove�nent Proposed ��//?�,��tr.�.�6�`'� � � _� t..�^?,v► . Acrcage of oper.t�r � � ..� / ,,�c l'�..r . � Has the Present Appl.icant Previous].y Sought to Rezone, Plat, Obta.in a Lot Spli.t, Ob�a.in a. Variance or Special Use Pcrmit on th� Subjec� Sitc or Part of It? %�� {Vliett? . � ��1� {Vi�at was rcc�uested Fec ��.closecl$ �(� Rec. No. - Dztc riled • � Da�e oi Fleari�ig �"'� .��,� �1 0 �'t�t,��:tiG (tt�ti �O�yitdC FO;si • PACZ:, ^� �� t�t,t�b�ar ��5- � 7� �� ' ' ' `, j �� 1��deYt��.�',ned underatands that; (a) A list og nll recidente �nd �n�ra Q� Y�Yc- � perty within 3G0 feet u�uat E>� ACl'�ci�ec� (;�i this Ap��Iica[io�1. . . �b) This cpplication c�ust be aA�;nMc3 t,y��11 • o4�ners of th� �roperty, o� tn e:-.p�.�n��Qcr► . , Eiven why tt�is i.o not the cta��. . (c) Responsibility for sny deicct in the pL�� ce�din�:� resul.tin� from the f�il��e �:c9 �:�,r� ' the nr�mer� rind nddre�sea o£ {�I� �e��c;�n�c-: tsnd pa•opert� o�rr�erb of praperty ca�,�it ;a� ;; y=;� €�eC of the pxorcxty �n quest£on, b��a��;a ' � � l-o Che undersi�ne�'. k��pf.d��1�G �nd �aanera af ��o�er�y urithixi 30� €c�et:� . T�R St�i; S I�DFtE S S � ,�,F .,... ' � , � - - . . . v ,_.. . . �� .. . � . . � . ��{Pgtc�s og �Sxoposed gra�erty and structuxe nu�t be drac�n an tho back o� th$a �Q� �r �t�tact��a, shoca:ng th� fal.lowfn�; 1. �oxCh Direction . 2. IACAkStftl of i'roposed Str�ctug€s c�tz Ic��. _ . 3. D�.r�ensions of pro��rt, , �r�po�EC3 . �truc�ur�� and �ronC �nd side �et*b��t;f.t, 4. Stze�t itac�es . 5. Loc�tion Lnd une of n�,�acent epf��l.��; � ' builGir�ga (Uithin s00 fcet). �"`it� undert�A�ned hereby daclar�s thot aIl the fact and , eprese `tntiana �atate� �,� ' ��4 �ppllcnt �on �z. e true an� correct . ��./`2',G� ,,c='� , % _ � ; ,, �/ �y�ri„rw � �:/K�l�"�� / � �+�J��il'v�1t/Y� /` � _��'�� f� ��;%s� lyl.�% � (AP2'i.TCANT) , . ' . . Q, . 14 d� 10k s�' rt 1x ft 14 r � �tg�roved I}�niad g�y thc ;ac�ad n� �g�pe��a $ttG�ttcC .CO tt�e Fo�lo;rin� Canditian�c; � ��,�� p�covad Ik�ni�d by the Plann4.n� Crr.�iasion on �ub��t �Cp Che �ll.owing Conciitian�: ��`~�,Cn ^ �',;��raved De��fed by the Couc�cil on y}c:b�gcC L� thc rql�ouin� Con�itfonu: . -- dt�t� �'pt-a t'C �Oa � � •, f �- � ", - �_�� p Planning Commission � . - Council �� i P.S. #74-06, Zander's lst Addition = i by Daile� Homes, Inc., being a replat ; � �,., oi Lot 3, Auditor's Sub. #92, with an exception. MAILING LIST Dailey Homes, Inc. Mr. & Mrs. John Livingston 8510 Central Avenue N.E.� G060 Stinson Blvd. N.E. Minneapolis, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mr's. Eugene Zander Mr. & Mrs. Rodney DeJong 6041 Benjamin Street N.E. 6065 McKinley Street N.E. � Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. David Sumnicht Mr. & Mrs. Costas Nichols 6Z36 Stinson B1vd. N.E. 6055 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Thomas Reed Mr. & Mrs. Lance Buoen � 6 1 3 0 S tins on Blvd. N.E. 6045 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Bjorne Lee Mr. & Mrs. Ward Stienstra 6116 Stinson Blvd. N.E. 6035 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 '� Richard Miller Mr. & Mrs. John H. Benson 1600 Rice Creek Road N.E. 6025 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Mrs. Keith Nyenhuis Mr. William L. Gaslin 6216 Stinson Blvd. N.E. 6015 McKinl�y Street N.E. Fridley; Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Alvin Gill Mr. & Mrs. Anarew W. Wolf 6200 Stinson Blvd. 5995 McKinley Street N.E. � Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Pdr. & Mrs. David Schirbout Mr. & Mrs. Marvin Vant Land G020 Stinston Blvd. N.E. 5996 McKinl�y Street N.E. : Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Ariber Construction Company Mr. & Mrs. Darrell Brink 6070 Stinson B1vd. N.E. 6020 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Michael Kubacki Mr. & Mrs. Robert Gillitzer 6040 Stinson Blvd. N.E. 6Q11 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. James VanEr�den Mr. & Mrs. Darrell Gunhus � 6050 Stinson Blvd. N.E. 1568 Ferndal� Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 _,�,� Mailing List • �,� Page 2 P.S. #74-06 Zander's lst Addition � � Mr. & Mrs. Janu Ctortnik Mr. & Mrs. Harlen Hanscom . 1560 Ferndale Avenue N.E. 6000 Stinson Blvd. N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Andrew Evans Mr. & Mrs. Hugh Reynold 6040 Benjamin Street N.E. 5993 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Elmars Prieditis Mr. & Mrs. D. M. Pastones 6031 Benjamin Street N.E. 6165 Briardale Court N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 - Mr. & Mrs. Joe Stevens, Jr.. Mr. & Mrs. Arthur Mcfee 6021 Benjamin Street N.E. 6155 Briardale Court N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Clifford R. Rickhoff Mr. & Mrs. Donald David 1567 60th Avenue N.E. 6145 Briardale Court N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 �ridley, Mn 55432 � Mr. & Mrs. Sheldon Tarman Mr. & Mrs. David Lang 1581 60th Avenue N.E. 6140 Briardale Court N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 /, Mr. & Mrs. Ri1ey Lala � Mr. & Mrs. Dennis Malone 1591 60th Avenue N.E. 6131 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. William Phillips Mr & Mrs. Richard O'Donnell 6020 Benjamin Street N.E. 1601 61st Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 �Mr. & Mrs. Maurice Ewy Mr. & Mrs. Earl Hendricks 1561 Ferndale Avenue N.E. 1611 61st Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Andrew P. Gawel Contractor, Inc. Mr. & Mrs. Clarence Cassell 2407 Washington Avenue N.E. 1621 61st Avenue N.E. Minneapolis, Mn 55418 Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Terry Clasen Mr� &•Mrs. Lee E. Tech 1573 Ferndale Avenue N.�. 1651 61st Avenue N.E. Fridley,�Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Duane Pearson Edwin Dropps 1567 Ferndale Avenue N.E. 8415 Center Drive Fridley, Mn 55432 Minneapolis, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Roger Sevre Roland Goodroad � 5995 Benjamin Street N.E. 1821 Rice Creek Road Fridley, Mn 55432 New Brighto�, Mn 55112 i � � .. � . . _ i � ' . .r �� 6' � \ , '��r! % .' � .. kyi' � (��i . ., � � �I� I � � : � � � �, _{ 1� a!'/:�j v f �` '�1 ;'3C�� ,� �� Ia/;..� •� I 4, `�cl !t r,� � raJ , / �.' .,: J� :. �1 / . . �!I%. � .e-t.� ,1� �:..re i�i t�f . ' . , .� • . � �g .r.� �,..... . %- J ><. �I .�,. t 'j . . . i � . i !%iw9: i' � . -'� . . 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No. /�� /�� 1 . a.te Filed � Date of Ileari.ng ^ . � � 0 � BI�►t�Ny,1;G AN�J zO;vINC FOF�i t3�, bar �'''y1'�� - '� tf—c' ``� 0 .• PA� $ �3� 't�^ . . . _ . \ . . � . . � . � . . . �i . 7t�t� tu��e��iAned underatenda that; (a) A l�st o£ nll res�dent� �nc! �r„rnero Q4` ^;,o- perty within 3G0 fect must b� pttocl�ec� (;�3 this applicarlon. � (b) Thts r�pplication r��st be a��d bY aIl • owncrs af th� praperty� ox rn e:��n�ti�c�s� . �i��r_n why thia io not the c��. . (c) Kesponsi��ility �or cnp c3ezect £n the p�a� . ce�dfn�� YCEU1.tin�; �TOCa the f�fl�re tc3 R�;e� thc nc��nea �ind a�(I'L'C�9C8 of �1T� Kem�.�i�n�:f; und p�-operty a:�sr�ert� oi prape�ty �;,�t�;q ,',•;:�•;l LeeC af Gh� pro��rGy �n qu�st�an, j��Zas,u� ' to Che undcrsiuned. �'w�q�dct��i� �nd G:�n�rs of �'�caper��t �ithia 30� fcet:. ��t'.R5qiti5 �iADftESS � � � . . _ . . -. ... .. �."",..y.",.r�! . . - r i 1' � �{�S;tftcf� og pYaposed property and structure muat be dzc�o�n an the back o� Gh$� ��a� �Y tl�tach�d, �hac.�.ng Che �ollowin�; 1. \o�th Dircction . �. YACt1Ci.0Et Of �:��OSC� SCYLSCCU�fl 6f2 4L?�. . 3� Di.nensions of prop�rt�, �.ro�o�eCl _ ' aCructure. And front �nd side �et+-lac��;�. . 4. Strcet 2��a�es . 5. Loc�tion snd �se of cd jac�nt er.£cCf�n� t ' t�uildings (uithin 3Q0 fcet) . �ip t�adexat�ned hereby declares that �11 the facts and repreEent�tiana caCated �p ' C�1ip ��plfcati.on a:e tr�►e and corrccr. � �v'��' S�Gi�AiL'�E i . (AI'T'I.TCAi�T) . 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F. � � � :. % % � � +•�:r.�•.. _.. �^•• ' _i.:.._�/� '�i �- � -- ---::.•'-^;.t�— __._--•--•-•----•--_• �-._-•.�------- --'.._ �! � E. El. Rtc!a:) =`�U �� ' f:�:G151'EFEC SURYL'YOR. No. 1S�p • �nu�. �. r.r.s.�aE. No. a1s7 " • � � JOHN J,.f2Yl.P�. ' . •• � No. 3 � . . �' . �. .�� , ��-----"---r- _"--• --�_ -•--'.-"_-_r=.----'__-_"_..:n..�-'�':�-- _•_ Fofn1 hO. i37 iM l:fl;IAin Ili.l'nA� J•F4IAt 1... � . . e . . . , � . . . �-.< �� Jctober 3, 1�7� '� . �j ' , �� ,� �, Gerald Gui�ont i', ;; �Jes te r�� Cons t ruct i on Company *� � +ta Tata ulvd �9� Y- �4i nnea?o 1 i s, Fi i nnesota 554�6 ��; s f � �ar Mr Gutmont a, (� . �: , i�; The Minnesota Gas Com�any has na facilities wit��fn that - ��-' pla�tvci uti 1 i ty e�ser�F�nt ov�r the East�rty 15 f�et of Lots �-_� 12 and 1?, �31ec4c ;, ".ice Creek Ptaza Sauth Addi tian. �;! We tNerefore �i<-sve no objectian to the vacation nor can- !`�' struCtf4t1 ov�s� atl or any part of said utility e�se^-�ent as ;j described her�in. , iI ,. �_ Sincerely � ^ � -, ^ � ! , ,; . '� �� ! � `J�'.��:i:� lll ;�',c�{�2�=;rr `, v,' �,{'�� r '�lillia�n R Schrarn � Pro��rty 5ection t,tRS:kg cc: J H Anclerson �a �� ` � %'� �� ,, ,., , =,' N O R T H E R N 5 T A T E 5 P O W E R C O M P A N Y � 4801 68TH AVENUE NORTH . � . � . . BROOKLYN CENTER, MINNESOTA S°5429 . � . � October 10, 1974 Mr Jerry Guimont Westem Construction Co 6950 Wayzata Boulevard Minneapolis, Minnesota 55416 Dear Mr Guimont Coss � With regard to the garage addition at b��. - 2nd Street N E- Fridley, Minnesota, NSP does not object to the garage being within 12 inches of the NW Bell Telephone Company pole, as long as it does not interfere with the maintenance of our facifities. Sincerely ��r�..i . 2`ZL 'ryZQ��Y`/ L M B� nson Customer Service Representative North Division LM B/rp �� f � � �'�1 �• �� , �'..�:. i� -�L� ' � ��- �' .� �� .� 1 2 ��r�� E �� 6540 Shingle Creek Parkw�y Miniieapolis, riinnesota 55430 October 10, 1974 Mr. J. Guimont Western Construction Company 6950 C�7ayzata I3oti1_evard Minneapolis, I;innesota 55416 Dear Pir. Guimont: Re; Lot 12, Block S, Rice Creek Plaza South Addition, N%, Sec. 14, T. 30, R, 24y Anoka County This letter is in re�ard to your rec�ucst �hicll1eou arop sentocconstructlany easement at the rear of your proper��, on y P addition to your e�isting garage. � The Northwestern }3e11 Telephor�e Can�pany has one joirit .use pole (NSP, CATV and Nt�:`33) �,•i.t-h �air.es attacheci �:hich serves your property and adjoir.i�n� pro- perties. I1e lza�re no abjection to the ubr:ndoning of a portion of the rear utility eusernent; ho��:ever, tae do reciuest that only that portion of the eas�- ment on ��hich }Tour proPosed structur.e encroaches be abandoned �n� recorc�ed. as such in the descr�_ption of yaur p-ro��:rty. We ��i11 agre.e to a�andon tt:at por.tion �al�ich wzll lie at a m�inimuai of one foot wesG o{ ri�e exis�_fn� utilii�y pole as shoc�:n on the atrached s�;e1_ch< '►'li�.s wzay P�Ym:it �he tele��l��ne pole to remain in place o�z a legally dc�scri�eu utility easei��ent. Vcry truly yours, K/ tz�L[.y� �- • �0-•�-ca-� Di�trict ��1gizleer Att�Ch cc. ,1�ar.r.y1 C�.� l:k Inspeci:ions Liep � City of: I�r.idley Larry I;en�on, L'n;�inci�r �vUil:�1C?Y:il :iL41i:��S �'C?W:_`t` ti0, � 1'�Ol��Y� 1,. }t7'F'�v�'`- � Ge�.zcr.,xl 1'c1c�v.i_�-.it�n, 7.nc. c,i 3`!�.i.cJ� c�y JLS/mo ___. �.\ n � �� OCTpgE'R 15, I974 ��. J. Guim�ant t��e��.�rn Con�,�.rLiction C�r��any 69a0 ,vayzat� �:ou? eva�d ,'-air�nea;?�lis, I•iinnesoi:a 55416 I3ear �fr. Guii��nt: Re� �t l.z, F�3:��k 5, �zice Cre�'� Piaza South Additinn, ZTl/2r Sec. Z4, �'. 30, it.2�'�, �`�n�?ca County This letter i�: in rec��d to �au� reRUest �a� the ab«n�oment �� i:nc utility ��as�mcnt at the r�:ar of your propertX on which you prog�ae t� cons�ruct an �.adition �o yaur existing garage. General Te}_evi.x�ian, Sr�c. is in jaint use wS.th (T�S�, and Nt�} with tv�-�es attach�c� z�rhzcii �erv�s your �x:operty and adjaaning pr��rties. �•1G h.ave no 4s�j c*�� c�n �.� i:he abanc��ning o� a po=tion of thE e�se- m�ent on whic� �=our �rc;aosed structure e��roaches be abando7ed an3 recorc�cci as su^�.1 in tY°a� d�^c�i�tion af yot�r ;?�O�t??"t�. '�:e �aill ag�ce �o a�anci�n that port-ion ��hich �aill lie at a�ir�i��u�::l o� a�e f�ot z>>r�st af t�:e c�ist:�.i�g utility �ole as �ho•„�unn an the attach�� sY>etch. fihi� �-�i?.�. r�err:Yit the tel�phone pale to reraaa.n in place on a I�g�ZI�r described u�alitcy easement. �lttacli cc: Darrvl C�a�:k Snsp�cti.ans Dept. City of F�ic�ile�r Larry Bensan, Lnqine�r i7a=thern N�ates �ower Co. �arren 7�. ros�:e District �z�gir.eer Y�orthwesicern f3e11 � r�I.�f Icab �Te�y tru�.y ours, C�`i.l-� �o��rt L. �z�wer G��.eral Televisi�n, xnc. of Fr� �ley y�� r� . •`' ' i.' 6 ' ��'��j�� ` �,�. r. � ,9 �''�� ., � ,•,�� :�� .�'�p �'':� � � � SAV #74-04, Jerry Guimont ;� � � I� i ,� ', � . �� '° ; Vacate a portion of a, 15' easement _l;._�, �� gj��?p`� � .�� , :;�� ,,L for a garage addition �3 tr'�Q IP+ te,, �J / �� `� ;1,� � . ;� ,�M. ��+' . _ . 1� i /� / � .4, °.� �� / �, 'f'. . . . . � . . t � i n � � �' e�s �•;. > � \�!p )7 . � � . . ,e• -�� '� � .` r a ' � � � � •--- o- t' � .. _ _ . . . . y. .�' S � �� .. � � . � .. . : .. 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