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PL 11/06/1974 - 7498,�"' �� , l r"'� PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF FRIDLEY A G E N D,A +/1 � � � NOVEMBER 6, 1974 8:00 P.M. . CALL TO ORDER: PAGES ROLL CALL• APPRQVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUT�S: OCTOBER 23, 1974 1- 8 ' RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE 9- 11 MINUTES:, OCTOBER 24, 1974 RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION S:II�CC7MMITTEE 12 MINUTES: OCTOBER 29, 1974 RECEIVE LETTER FROM VIRGIL HERRICK TO DARREL CLARK 13 DATTD OCTOBER 29, 1974 1. CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S. #74-06, ZANDER'S 15T ADDITION, BY DAILEY HOD�ES, INC. A replat of Lot 3, Auditor's Subdivision No� 92, except the North 169 feet of the West 164 feet thereof, located South of 61st Avenue N.E. between Benjamin Street and McKinley Street N.E. Public Hearing Closed 2. PRESENTATION BY JOHN �ANCK �N NeS.P. RATES FQR UNDERGROUND UTTLITlES 3. PR�SENTATION BY DAN HUFF, NATURALIST/RESOURCE CO�RDINATOR ON "NATURAL HISTORY AREt�S" FOR THE: CITY OF FRIDLEY � � �� t li �l - � l U � ,� y _ � � � �'` ,� , �� , � ,�5 , � � �.,�� i�''`�- � � �'' � , 14 - 25 ^ � � � CITY DF FRIDL�Y PLI�NNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 23, 1974 CALL TO ORDER: PAGE 1 Chairman Fitzpatrick called the meeting to order at 8:10 P.M. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Members Absent: Others Present: Fitzpatrick, Lindblad Darrel Clark, Harris, Blair, Drigans Community Development Administrator APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 25, 1974 MOTION by Harris, seconded by Drigans, that the P.Zanning Commission approve the minutes of the September 25, 1974 meeting as written. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: OCTOBER 9, 1974 MOTION by Drigans, seconded by B.Zair, that the P.Ianning Commission approve the minutes of the October 9, 1974 meeting as written. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE PARKS & RECI2EATION COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 23, 197� MOTION by Blair, seconded by Drigans, that the Planning Commission receive the minutes of the Parks & Recreation Commission Subcommittee meeting of September 23, 1974. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVF BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: OCTOBER 10, 1974 MOTION by Harris, seconded by B1air, that the P.Zanning Commission receive the minutes of the Building Standards-Design Contro.Z Subcommittee meeting of October 10, 1974. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark if stipulation 9 for the Medical Clinic which reads " The medical building wi11 be limit,ed-to occupation and uses as stated in a letter from the Unity Medical Center of September 6, 1973 which states that this building shall be limited to health professionals which will include, but not limited to, physicians, dentists, oral surgeons, clinical psychologists, psychiatric social workers and allied mental health personnel. Ancillary uses other than office space shall be limited to those commercial enterprises designed to serve the doctors and dentists and their personnel and patients. Such ancillary uses would include things such as professional pharmacy, an optical company, possibly a card and flower shop, and possibly at a later date, a coffee shop, could be enforced. Mr. Clark said the reason the petitioner wanted this worded this way was because there might be new health fields in subsequent years, and they might want to be in this building. Mr. Harris said that if they had trouble renting this building, they might be able to use this stipulation to Planning Commission Meeting - October 23, 1974 ' Page 2 rent out to some type of business that wasn't compatible with the ,� primary use of this building. Mr. Drigans said this was one of th� stipulations the Planning Commission had on the Special Use Permit. Chairman Fitzpatrick said the statement says that it is limited to health professionals, but they didn't want to limit what type of health professions they could rent the building to. Mr. Drigans said he thinks their out is that the ancillary uses other than office space shall be limited to those commercial enterprises designed to serve the doctors and dentista and their personnel and patients. He said this could include lawyers, insurance�. offices, auditor's etc. Chairman Fitzpatrick said the petitioner's themselves are deter- mined to limit this building to health professionals so he didn't think this would be a problem. Mr. Clark sai� as he understands it,.the building is already 80o rented- UPON A VOIC� VOTE, a.Z1 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: OCTOBER 15, 1974 MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Blair, that the Planning Commissian �"1 receive the Board of Appeals Subcommittee minutes of their October 15, 1974 rneeting. Mr. Drigans said the Council tabled the v�riances for building on 50 foot lots< Mr. Clark said that these could come before the Planning Commission if the petitioner decides to build these homes because they are in the flood plain and will require Special Use Permits. Mr. Harris said he was interested in the decision an�i the comments made on the approval for Graham Testers. Mr. Drigans said he said the Board felt this was a combination of the petitioner and administration in that this was allowed in the first place. Mr. Clark said the petitioner was told that if he did this, he was doing it at his own risk of it being approved. Mr. Drigans said that as this was different from the plan originally approved, he thought this project'should have been red tagged, and no one seemed to know where the approval came from to let them cut the green.area to such a small amount by putting a driveway through this area. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL voting aye, the motion carried unanimousZy. RECEIVE PLATS & SUBDIVISIONS-STREETS & UTILITIES SUBCOMNiITTE� MINUTES: OCTOBER 16, 1974 MOTION by Harris, seconded by Blair, that the Planning Commission ^ receive the minutes of the Plats & Subdivisions-Streets & Utilitzes Subcommittee meeting of October 16, Z974. Upon a voice vote, al.Z voting aye, the inotion carried unanimously. RECEIVE MEMO FROM DAN HUFF, NAT.UR.ALIST/RESOURCE COORDII��ATOR Planning Commission Meeting - October 23, 1974 ' Page 3 MOTION by Harris, seconded by Blair, that the � receive the memo from Dan Huff, Naturalist/Resource Septemher 27, 1974. Upon a v�ice vote, a1I voting carried unanimously. � Planning Commission Coordinator, of aye, the motion l. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S. #74-fl6, ZANDER'S 1ST ADDITION, BY DAILEY HOMES, INC.: A replat of Lot 3, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, except the North 169 feet of the West 164 feet thereof, generally located South of 61st Avenue N.E., between Benjamin St-reet & Mc Kinley Street N.E. Mr. Howard Nystrom was present to represent the petitioner. MOTION by Harris, seconded by B1air, that the Planning Commis- sion waive the reading of the Public Hearing notice for the consider- ation of a preliminar� p1at, P.S. #74�-06, Zander's .Zst Addition, by Dailey Homes, Inc. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the rnotion carried unanimousZy. Mr. Clark said t1�at at the Plats & Subs meeting of October 16, 1974 Mr. Korin, who owns the property that is the exception to this plat, said there was a two to four foot discrepancy in the East-West 3.ine of his South property line. Mr. Dailey's surveyor made a call to me and explained that the lot irans in tlze field were not in the location where Mre Korin thought they were. Mr. Cla�k said he had not been out in the field to check these irons, so we still have this su�vey discrepancy. Mr. Clark said that other items which were discussed at this meeting was the problem of drainage along the East line of Mr. Korin's property, which was going to be taken care of by a swale along Lot 6 of this plat. Mr. Korin stated that he would agree to the encroachment on his property for this swale, so that in case the storm sewer along his South property line plugged up, the excess water could drain towards 61st AvPnue. Except for the survey discrepancy, all the stipulations ,p�t on.by the Plats & Subdivisions-Streets & Utilities Subcommittee have been agreed to by the developer. These stipulations are to provide an easement for the storm sewer as shown on the plat, provide an ease- ment along the rear lot lines for other utilities, solve the drainage problems w'ith Mr. Korin, provide one tree per lot, 2" in di.�meter, reduce the street dedication for 61st Avenue from 25 feet to 20 feet, so Lot 6 will have the required 80' front footage and provide under- ground utilities. There is an existing house on this plat which wi11 be moved to Lot l. The entire plat will have to be regraded and there will be a lot af excess fill. Mr. Drigans asked how the elevations were shown on the plat. Mr. Clark said the dash lines are the existing elevations and the solid lines are the proposed elevations. � Mr. Elmars Prieditis, 6031 Benjamin Street N.E., said his property was South of this plat. He said thatin looking at the proposed plat, there would be an 8 foot drop in five feet and he wondered if this met the code raquirements. Mr. Clark said the grade would have to be three to one, that was code. Planning Commission Meeting -- October Z3; 1974� Page 4 .�.� � Mr. Nystrom said he thought there was quite a drop at that location at the present time. Mr. Prieditis said it was about a four foot drop in 10 feet now. Mr. Clark said this will have to be changed to a three to one slope. Mr. Nystrom said he knew this was code, and he didn`t know why the engineer hadn't drawn the elevations according to the code. Mr. Korin, 6051 Benjamin Street N.E., asked Mr. Clark if he had checked out the elevations for'the storm sewer along the South lin� of his property. He said he was told at the time this was installed that it wouldn't be low enough to drain his yard and he wondered if this was true or not. Mr. Clark said this would be checked out, but according to the drawing on the plat, it should be low enough to handle the drainage. Mr. Clark said it was at the time that this was stubbed into the street that Mr. Korin was told it would not be low enough. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked Mr. Korin if he had enough room on his lot to split off half of it for a building site. Mr. Korin said this was debatable. He feels that he has and everyone else has told him he doesn't,',so for the time being, we're not discussing that. Mr. Fitz- patrick said that Mr. Korin didn't have any current plans for his property then. Mr. Korin said that the discrepancy in the survey was that the curb should be thr�e feet from his property line, and with the new survey, the curb is on my property now. He said that when the City ,� surveyed for the street, their survey agr�ed with his. Mr. Prieditis asked if this plat could be approved without the three t.o one slope not being shown. Mr. Harris said this was onl.y the preliminary plat, and this would be one of the stipulations �or the final plat. Mr. Harris asked who would be responsible for maintaining the 20 feet of street dedication adjacent to Lot 6. Mr. Clark said the property owner of Lot 6. Mr. Harris said he thought this should be spelled out as a stipulation. Mr. Clark said this was covered in the zoning code. ' Mr. Korin said that at the Plats & Subs meeting, Mr. Thorson had stated that there were no plans for adding a garage to the house that was being moved to Lot 1. He said he had talked to the Zanders, and they said they did plan to have a garage and it was in their contract. Mr. Harris said the reason he had brought this up at that meeting was because of the grade on this lot. It seemed that it would almost have to be a tuck under garage. Mr. Korin said he thought that was what it would be. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked if this home belonged to the sellers of the property. Mr. Korin jaid yes, it belonged to the Zander's. MOTIDN by Blair, seconded by H�rris, that the Planning Commission c.Zose the PubZic Hearing on the consideration of a preliminary plat, ^ P.S. #74-06, Zand�r's Ist Addition, by Dai.Ze� Horrres, Inc. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. ��anning Commission Meeting - October 23, 1974 Page 5 Mr. Fitzpatrick said the survey discrepancy should be worked out before this plat goes to Council. Mr. Clark said it would /1 certainly have to be resolved before the hard shellswere made. Mr. Fitzpatrick asked who would have to resolve the conflict in the survey. Mr. Clark said he thought the petitioner should revise his preliminary plat to show how the drainage problem would be worked out along Lot 6, the grade change along the South property line, and the street dedication changed from 25 feet to 20 feet. The Planning Commission will have another meeting before this goes to Council, and he thought they should get another look at this plat, with the revised grade, before this goes to Council. He told Mr, Nystrom to show the recommend�d changes and get the preliminary plat as close to the final plat without drawing up hard shells. Mr. Clark said he thought the Council could set the Public Hearing date for the final plat as long as the Planning Commission would be able to see the preliminary plat again. /'1 ^ Mr. Drigans said he didn't know how the Council cauld set a public hearing date when there was a survey discrepancy. How many surveys were there? Mr_. Clark said that on this particular piece of pro�erty, there were two surveys, Mr. Korin's survey and Dailey Home's sur`vey. He said there were other surveys in the area. Briardale, Pine Tree Builders, Andy Gowel`s Plat and the exception to the Zander property. These should all meet on the corner of 61st and Benjamin. Mr. Drigans said thi5 should be resolved by our next meeting then. Mr. Clark said it isn't only a City matter to resolve. Mr. Drigans asked wh: was responsible f.or resolving this then. Mr. Clark said that both surveyors have certified that their survey is correct, so he would assume this would be a legal matter. He said he would have to check with the City Attorney on this. T'his was why he felt the City Council could set a hearing date and this problem would have to be resolved at the Council level� Mr. Drigans said he thought it was up to the Planning Commission to resolve any problems before it went to Council. Mr. Clark said there was na way the Planning Commission could resolve a survey error. Mr, Korin said that at the time told him the retaining wall was right curb was three feet from his property three to four foot difference in the the street was going in, the City an his property line and the line. He felt there was a surveys. MOTION by Harris, seconded by Drigans, that the Planning Commission continue unti.Z November ,/'a, Z974, the consideration of a preliminary plat P.S. �74-06, Zander's 1st Addition, Dailey Homes, Inc., a replat vf Lot 3, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, except the North 169 feet of the West 164 feet thereof, gcnerally located South af 61st Avenue N.E.,. between Benjamin Street & Mc Kinley Street N.E., to determ.ine the difference in the two surveys and get the other changes made on the p1at, such as the street dedication f.or 6lst Avenue being changed from 25 feet to 20 feet, show the swale in back of Lot 6, and change the slope to three to one on the South property Iine. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanin:ousZy. Mr. Clark aslced Mr. Nystrom when he wanted to start grading. Mr. Nystrom said they wanted to grade this property this fall. � Planning Commission Meeting = 4ctober 23,` 1974 Page 6 �,,,� Mr. Korin said that before any grading is done and the hole South of his property is filled up, they better put the storm sewer and catch basin in, or he would have water problems in the spring. Mr. Prieditis said if this was graded before the plat was approved, he would want them to be sure of the slope on the South property line also. Mr. Fitzpatrick said the plat would not be approved if the grading was done differently from what was stipulated. 2. CONSIDERA`I'ION OF A VACATION REQUEST, SAV #74-04, BY JERRY GUIMONT: Vacate that portion of a 15 foot utility easement needed for a 30' x 24' addition to am existing garage, located on Lot 12, Block 5, Rice Creek Plaza South Addition, the same being 6551 2nd Street N.E. Mr. Harris said there were Tetters from the four utility companies stating that they had no objection to that portion of the 15 foot easement being vacation where the petitioner wants to have his g.�rage addition encroach on this easement. Mr. Harris said the entire ease- ment is 25 feet, so this is a wide easement. Mr. Clark said they had received the 1ega1 description of that partion that needs to be vacated from the surveyor today, and it is quite long. He said tY�.e petitioner cauld have encroached on this ^ easement with the approval of the utility companies, but he had advised the petitioner to have it vacated so that 10 years down the line, there wouldn't be any problems, such as getting a.��mortgage commitment. Mr. Clark said the petitioner has a 2 car garage now for a seven unit apartment building. This 30 foot addition will give him three more spaces to make this a 5 car garage. To do this, the front corner of the garage will encroach about seven feet on the easement and the back corner will eneroach about 3z feet. The normal way we vacate an easement.is-usually the entire strip, but there is a telephone pole just one foot from the new garage wall. This happens to be a corner post, which is used by the telephone company, the power company, and General Television. It wauld cost in excess of $2,000 to move this pole. The u�ility companies do not want to move this pole, and have given permission for this garage to be one foot from the pole. Mr. Drigans asked if this could be a safety hazard. Could someone climb on ttie garage and then climb the pole? Mr. Clark said the pole has no p�gs on it, so this shouldn't be a problem. MOTION by Driqan, seconded by BZair, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council approval of the vacation request, SA V#74-04, by Jerry Guimont, to vacate an irregular strip of land lying �,rithin a Z5 foot uti.Zity easement at the rear of Lot .Z2, Block 5, Rice Creek P1aza South Addition, Anoka Coun�y, the same being 6551 2nd Street N.E., lying South of the North Iine of said Lot I2, and adjoining the Westerly line of said 15 foot utility easement described as follows: Commcncing at the Northeast corner of �aid Lot 12; tl�ence West along the Nvrth line of said Lat 12, a distance of 11.50 feet; thence South and paralle.i Planning Commission Meeting - October 23, 1974 Page 7 n with the West Iine of said Lot 12, a distance of 8.40 feet to the point of beqinning; thence continuing along said para11e1 line a distance of 24.70 feet; thence West and para11e1 with the North line of said Lot 12, to the Wester.Iy Iirne of said I5 foot utility easement; thence Northeasterly along the Westerly Iine of said 15 foot uti.Zity easement to a point 8.40 feet South of the North line of said Lot l2; thence East and paralleZ with the North l.ine of said Lot 12, to the point of beginning, to allow the construction of a 30 foot x 24 faot addition to an existing garage, Upon a voice vote, a1I vofing aye, the motion carried unanimousZy. 3. OPEN MEETING LAW MOTION by Harris, seconded by B1air, that the Planning Commiss.ion rec�ive the Ietter sent to the Anoka County Attorney by four citizens of Fridley, and the letter from Weaver, Ta1.Ze & Herrick, sent to the City Council, dated October 2.Z, 1974. Upon a voice vote, alltfotinq aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Drigans said he hoped that these four citizens were genuinely interested in the eninrcemen� of the open meeting law and not pursuing this matter for political reasons. He said he was opposed to the Planning Commission being used for political purposes. ^ Chairman Fitzpatrick said this is. in the hands of the Coun.ty Attorney now. 4. SETTING DATE FOR WORKSHOP MEETING Mr. Drigans said the Planning Commission had set aside one night a month, the same night as the Public Hearing meeting of the City Cauncil, for having their workshop meetings. They hadn't had one in October, and he thought they should request one for November. Mr. Clark said he thought November 18th would be the Public Hearing night for the Council, because November llth was a legal holiday. Mr. Clark said he thought he should check with Virgil Herrick, the City Attorney, to see if these meetings were in violation of the open meeting 1aw. There may have to be some notice given for these meetingsr 5. RESPONSE 'I'O MR. HUFF'S MEMO Mr. Harris said he thought Mr. Huft should be invited to make his presentation at the next Planning Commission meeting. MOTIDN b� Xarris, seconded by Drigans, that Mr. Nuff make his presentation to the Planning Commission on IJovember 6, 1974. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motian carried unanimously. 6. RIVERVTEW HEIGHTS Mr. Harris said he had an occasion for visiting in the Riverview Heights area recently. He said that durinc� the flooding in 1965, he had felt that this was a disadvantaged area, and was pleasently su.r- Planning Commission Meeting - October 23, 1974 Page 8 pris�d to find what a nice area this has become. He said it had a small town atmosphere with very light traffic. He said he caas /"'1 impressed with the neighborliness shown, and a lot of people were just out walking. Mr. Clark said �his area had come a long way in the last few years. Mr. Harris said the .lighting in the area was very wel� done. 7. N.S.P. UNDERGROUND UTILITY R�TES Mr. Clark said there was so much ccnfusion on how N.S.P, charged for underground utilities, and as the Planning Commission usually requested unaerground utilities on ne� plats, he thought a represent- ative of N.S.P. should be asked to a Planriing Co:nmission meeting tc explain their policy. Mr. Fitzpatrick said Mr. Clark should make these arrangements and if the representative could come to their next meeting on November 6, 1974, this could be added to the agenda. Chairman Fitzpa�rick adjourned the meeting at 9:50 P.M, Respectfully submitted, �1 �l�� 2��✓�,,,c�� Dorothy enson, Secretary ^ ^ _� BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOI�IMITTEE MEETING OF OCTOBF.R 24, 1974 The meeting was called to order by Chairman Lindblad at 8:00 P.;�1. MEMBER PRESENT: MEMBERS ABSENT: OTHERS PRESENT: Lindblad, Simoneau, Nelson Tonco Jerry Boardman, Planning Assistant 1�10TION by Simoneau, seconded by Nelson to approve the minutes of the September 12, and October 10, 1974 meetings as written. 1. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. CONSIDERA,TION OF A REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT A NEW BUILDING TO SE USED AS E1N OFFICE AND WAREHOUSE: LOCATED ON LOTS 3, 4, 5, F� 6, BLOCK 7, OUTLOT C; BURLINGTON NORTHERN INDUSTRIAL PARK: 'THE SAME BEING 5330 OUTLOT C, FRIDLEY MINNESOTA. RPORATED; 60 BOSTON STREET, SALEM 019 0 Mr. David Corcoran and Mr. James Antell were present for the petitioner. AZr. Corcoran presented a picture and site plans of the building to be acted upon. Mr. Corcoran sai.d the building is to be constructed using precast materials. The Building will be used as an office and warehouse. D4r. Corcoran stated the building wzll be built on a 6.97 acre lot. The building warehouse is 25 feet high and the office and truck strip are 10 to 12 feet below the warehouse. Mr. Boardman showed plans of the building. hir. Corcoran said the building would be flat panel or double T panel on the walls. He s�ated the concrete could be plain or ribbed and either brushed or painted white. Mr. Corcoran said, also, the outside of the building presents a sawtooth effect with the laying of the concrete blocks. Mr. Cor.coran showed on the plans the trucking dock where the txucks will�drive right in the building to load and unload merchandise. Mr. Nelson asked about the effects on air pollution. P•4r. Corcoran stated the building would be used strictly as a warehouse. b�ir. Boardman said the building is close to the lot line to be near the railroad for ea.sier use when loading and unloading merchandise. Mr. Corcoran said the landscaping would be done by Franz Lipp-Marvin Vehler Partnership. Shade trees will extend to the end of the property line. Flowering trees will also be used. The landscaping will continue near the railroad side also. � BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCO��IITTEE MEETING OCTOBER 24, 1974 - P. 2 � Chairman.Lindblad discussed the amount of parking stalls. Mr. Corcoran stated there were 55, which is four more than the required amount. � Chairman Lindblad asked about equipment on the roof which will be viewed from the street. r1r. Corcoran said there �aould be the tops of the exhaust fans and air conditioning units showing, but they would be low. enough not to harm the appearance of the building. T.Zr. Lindblad then stated that the new design on the roof units look better than any material used to screen them. � Mr. Simoneau asked the question concerning refuse materials and �he disposing of them. Nir. Corcoran stated there caould be very little. The warehouse is to be a storage place for merchan,�ise that would be taken to and from the building by truck. There would, however, be a dumpster on the inside of the building. Mr. Simoneau asked how many employees would be working at the office and warehouse. Mr. Corcoran stated there would be 46 employees in all. ^ Chairman Lindblad asked about drainage problems. blr. Boardman said there will be a new storm sewer put in this fall. Chairman Lindblad said he would like a color scheme planned for the outside of the building. He did not want tfie building left unpainted. Mr. Boardman said they could �vork out a color scheme with the planning department if the board so chooses. Mr. Simoneau asked if they would provide handicapped facilities. Mr. Corcoran stated there would be facilities provided for the handi- capped. I�ir. Simoneau made the motion the request for the new building b e sent to Council for approval with the following stipulations: 1.. That an exterior b uilding color sch eme be worked out for the building with city staff. 2, That the landscaping be continued along the street right of way tocaards the N.E. so the project will look mo.re complet� (as shown in red on plan) . :^ 3. Landscape screen b e provided around small storage tank. (as shown in red on plan) Mr. Nelson seconded the motion. .�L,i SUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCONII�iITTEE NIEETING OF OCTOBER 24, 1974 - P�. 3 ^ Chairman Lindblad led in a discussion of the appointment of a new member to the Building Standards-Design Control Subcommittee and that mention of this should be brought up at the next Council meeting. Chairman Lindblad adjourned the meeting at 8:30 P.M. Respectfully submitted, �� a! -�d",-�� Arlene L. Smith Seeretary ^ " ?, � �,,1 i MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 79, ��%�' /1 Meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairn�an B1air and inanediately adjourned due to a laek of a quorum. N�IRFR� PRESIIV'I': Blair, Wagar N�ERS EXCUSID: Caldwell, Harris, Peterson �frHERS PRESENT: Paul Brawn, Director, Parks and Recreati.on Department The next regular meeting will be heTd on P�anday, Nov�nber 25, 1974 at 7:30 p.m,, in the Cca�munity Roam of Fridley Civic Center. R� ly sulsnitted, aul Brawn, Director r"� � �. �� e �� . . GHARLES R.WEAVER � HERMAN L.TAL�E . V 1 R G I L C. H E R R 1 C K ROBERT MUNNS � JAMES D. GIBHS Wli,t_�AM K, GOODRICH . THOMASA.GEDDE JEFFREY P, HICttEN � LAW OFFICES WEAVER; TALLE &. HERRiCK October 29, 1974 Mr. Darrel Clark Engineering Department Fridley City Hall 6431 University Avenue Northeast Fridley, Minnesota 55432 Dear Mr. Clark: 316 EAST MAIN STREET ANOKA, MINNESOTA 55303 421-54�3 6279 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E. FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 55432 560-3850� � FIRST STATE BAWK BUILDING COON RAPIDS,MINN.55433 755-t330 You have inquired of ine as City Attorney whether the City of Fridley can permit the construction of a garage on a utility easement. You have further advised me that all of the utility companies wha are using or might use the utility easement have consented to the construction as requested by the /'1 adjacent fee owner. /'\ I am of the opinion that a utility easement runs to the utility companies for purposes of installing underground or overhead utilities. If the companies who are the beneficiaries of the easement have consented, in writing, to the proposed construction, I would be of the opinion that the City could grant the requested building permit. UCH:jjh 1f Sincerely, /• � ��'�-.1/ �.� � G- � ��C-f-'�-''--��. ��.-� � /��. %� �/ =� ! ff Virgil C. Herrick" ^ OFFICIAL NOTICE CITY OF FRTDLEY PUnLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLAI�TNING COMMISSION TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning Commission of the City ot Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, October 23, 1974 in the Council Chamber at 8:00 P.M. for the purpose of : Consideration oi a Proposed Preliminary Plat, P.S. #74-06, Zar�der's lst Additian, by Dailey Homes, In.c., being a replat of_ Lot 3, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, except the North 169 feet of the West 164 feet thereof, lying in the Narth Half of Section 24, City of Fridley, County- � of. Anoka., Minnesot�a, Gene-rally located South o� 61st Avenue N.E. between Benjamin Streei: and McICinley Street N.E. Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above matter will be hear_d at this meeting. Publish: Octobcr 9r 1974 October 16, 1974 /�1 EDWARD J. I'IT7,PATRICK CTI7�IRM11N PLANN�NG CCP�IMISSION . �� x�, I �' CI'I'Y Ol' I�RIULL•Y D1INNiiSOT/� PLM'NItvG /iNU ZONI!vTG I�O1L�; � Nwnl�cr �� J, � % `i— L�� 0 _ . /, APPLIC�INT' S ST „ , . <,-._'- ___-_.�>�, � �� , /� �c��•ru�.r� ..e-f�- -• A:�-� � ''�'s:� �� - _._____ � ,i'i�_.__ Address "' `� ' � �`� t�� ,,,�t.. ,.�.�� 'i 1'el.ephorie i�wi�ber %..�"rfl • ��' j�%� P1:OI'1:1:1'Y 01'd:�1�I:' S S�IGi�(�7'.1; Ii i Acld� ess �'� �' �/ /r'"° ._? �- � � i _. � � 'Telepho�te Numl�er % Strcet: Loca t-.:i . n �f Pro}?crty . �� F�-�.� =i-.. ,., fr �, 1/ ,✓ v �c'-. Lega_1 Dc:scr�.pc-�ion o� Pr.opez•ty '��:t� �.i; .'� c�� C�i� � �� 0 i l� f� /�' (.�. � �� TYP� Or ItIiQUL'S'1' Rezonin� Special Use Permit _ ?� ni��o�r�� 1 � f I'rcliini�la7•y f']_r��: Ap��ro�-a 1 oi' ]�inal I'l��t Streets or Alley Vacati.o;rs OLhcr �' �<� i•�'.= �: c�'' t' i�� :��I; ,�1-�'/ � !`�C- � e�.t;:-.,± t':tr= ii � C7�% :��CL'i; Of L�iIC; �% � ��4 s�('i�j. `i,�:�_'i. �-'-<?�� f —:��:C�::L(:tl .�� i(1'�IIi._:1.Lji ��iJ ...allt�t: _'4 :til(7�i:_t �'�)�`•ilf:tir� 'i7_ilila'',:i�.`�-:1. �ii111,jf'C� �.C7 l'(l:i(�:'s 11 � Present Zonin� Cla.ssification ;';'•• j` ,�: � Existi�l� Use o£ Property ��:'�- . Propose�i 7oning Classi.f-icat-ion, Sl�ecial Use,, or other rcc{uest %/� ` _ � f �,% Describe bri.c£ly t]Ie T��e of Use and Trlproveinc�Zi. 1'xoposc:d -=��.e.,t>r,r..r<1".�.-:�� , f°',- f i%lr � . _... ri ; -� - - %1cr.caF;e of �Propert�� ,,/ `� ..� �% l�;t-�'�� H<as tlie P��escnt �ppl.icai�t I'revioiisly Sou�llt to Itezoi�e, Plat, Obt�zr� a Lot Split:, r Q'�t�iili a�'ari�Yiicc or Special. Use Permit on ttic Sul�ject Sitc or Part of It? ��'j 1�'11 en ? • � g� 1�l�at was rec�tiested _ Tee Pnclosecl� -� �� Rce. 1�'0.��' f��` Da.te Pa_led � � Uate o£ Ileari�i .�-,•-� �'T�it�i��.i�r (�NtS ZO:�INC F0��2d .� . t��4�bRr ��-5. �/ 75�-c'�, ' " PaCw � �� 'k�� t�cjc�et't��.�z�ec4 underaCan�� thPt� (a) A lint o� All recident�s r.nd Mannra Q¢ ��•��- � periy wif.l�in �GQ fect must j�a jdCC�C17C:iy E�;4� tt�is t:pj�lfcacioil, . �bj This r:pp2icctfon nlust be af�f;n�.d by �II ' ow��ers of tha property� o� tn c._p�t+.nde$crt ' �f�-��n wf�y tt�i� io not tt-�e cra�c, . �c) Rcsponsibilit}� for c�ny c�cicct fn the �i�� ee.Cclity�� xesul.ting �ro� the �r5ii�.e cc� �;�.�:?� the nri�ner, �nd n�d•re4we� ok �:i,j �e��r.!.��? r�nd pxoperty a.•?r�erG of prape�t� c�f Cfi-',� ,::A;3 fe�t of the pro�cxCy xn quest�>on, b�t�;z�v � l'o ti�� undcrsi�nec;. ' ��4�«��G �nd C:�nrrtz of �rQ�e�:�� ithin 30� fcet:. • 1'�FSO��S �.IIDRLS� . YSII.Y. . . ' � . / r Y-�� . 7�"ay+ . _ _ i""^�'r°�! 0 :�� , .�„��,,,.,.,S,R,,,a,,,,..T,Y,a.. . - / \ l�-'Y^-e-•e= � �� FE;ctCcti o� ��opo�c_ci prol>erGy rnd :�tructuze c�u�C be drnc�n ar� Chc� b�ck Qf t�i$� �(f�:i� �i�' ta4tncl��d� sho*.��:.r�g Ch� �ollc�;ain�: I. �'a�rh i7fr�crion 2. t��nr.io�z of i:opose�i Struet�r� r� I�;. 3. 13i��ensions of ��ro��: t�, �rnnoLeca ' �Cx•u��ur�. and fronC �nd cicle �e�.�;�;.;�,�� . �t. St�c�t t;�r:�es � S. 1oc��tian �nd unc of cd�acer�t cr.is�t.^,; � k�uil�in�s (ui.thin :;00 feet) . �"rt� t�a�iege��nec3 herst�y c�ec�arc�g �hra� all thc fact.t� �nd r-cp�ere�t��.an�rraC�teu $� �:�1�4 c.��g�licr,tl.on ac� tr��c e,n� carrcc�. " � %� ` �. ,; t �' .-� �:�.n ;��. �-r �r;: � �%-� ��7 J �,fc: �-�i. f - f , ,�j' � j, � � �%,'� ,i .�r � ` C,� �--- / ' �r-� � �� ,.��° • . , ('� , /� + /, G1v�'r�*; �;;. `•' .��.. �.� g � f / % / 4 �`ileltl'lie�.i. � L ''.-- .r`,.�t'�.C'-r�%� %!I /! ;'�,,,, ..:rrs. i ��, � - -- . --�.-�;;---C��i'ZTCkI:� — �: '':� �.-= � . . . a. �� T�zovcd �J�c�l.cd L'�c th� ;�OL1�� u� G�a•�cl,is� ��s;+�6tct .CO Ct�c �'c�Ila:��in� Canditivc,R.; "` � d�.g� f.:'��ov�� n"��cd_�,____r_. by C�e Pl�nnira�; C.�iccfon on �ub�e�E: CG► Ch� �';a:lowin�; Conci;tion�; �" „ �' � 4 w�a �.;��rov�cS I?c=nl.ed -- t>y [hL Councf � oa y��:��c� t� thc �'qllot�ing Corti;siCiocia; . .�.. 7_"°� � ii t: 4 k'oxc� P� � 00 f �1 � f I P.S. #74-06, Zander's lst Addition � by Dailey Homes, Inc�, beitzg a replat of Lot 3, 1luditor's Sub. #9Z, with an exception. ^ � MAILING LIST Dailey Homes, Inc. 8510 Central Avenue N.E. Minneapolis, Mn 55432 A�r. & Mrs. Eugene Zander 6041 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mzs. David Sumnicht 6136 Stinson Blvd. N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Thomas Reed 6130 Stinson BJ_vd. N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Bjorne Lee 61]_6 Stinson Blvd. N.�. Fridley, P�tz 55432 Richard P�Iill�.r 1600 Rice Creek Road N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mrs. Keith Nyenhuis 6216 Stinson �31vd. N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Alvin Gill G200 Stinson Blvd. Fridley, M.n 55432 Mr. & Mrs. David Schirbout 6Q2U Stinston Blvd. N.r. Fridley, Nin 55432 Amber C�nstruction 607Q Stinson Blvd. Fridl�y, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Michael 6U40 Stinson Bl.vd. F'ridley, Mn 55432 Company N.E. Kubacki N.�. Mr. & Mrs. James Van�;rc�en 6050 S�irisan BI_vd. Id.E. Fridley, Mn 55�32 Planning Commission �� 7y Council �� Mr. & Mrs. John Livingston 6060 Stinson Blvd. N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Rodney DeJong 6065 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Costas Nichols 6055 McKinley Street N.E. rri_dley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Lance Buoen 6045 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Ward Stienstra 6035 McKinley Street N.E. Fri�l�y, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. John H. Bensori 6025 McICinley Street N.E. Fridley, r•�z 55432 Mr. �ailliam L. Gaslin 6015 McKinl�y Street N.E. F-ridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Andrew W. Wolf 5995 McKi_nley Street N.E. Fridl�y, I��In 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Marvin Vant Land 5996 McKinlc�y Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 1�1r .& Mrs . Darre 11 Brink 602b McKinley Street N.E. Fr_idley, Mn 55432 Mr. � Mrs. Robert Gillitzer 601I Benjamin Street N.E. Fridl�y, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Darrell Gunhus 1568 Ferndalc I�ver�ue N.E. Fridley, Mn 5�432 �..,.�. � !°� /'1 Mailing List Page 2 P.S. #74-06 Zander's lst Addition Mr. & Mrs. Janu Ctortnik 1560 Ferndale Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Andrew Evans 6040 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Elmars Prieditis 6031 B�njamin Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Joe Stevens, Jr.. 6021 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Clifford R. Rickhoff 1567 60th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Sheldon Tarman 1581 60th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Riley Lala 1591 60th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. William Phillips 6020 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Maurice Ewy 1561 Ferndale Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Andrew P. Gawel Contr_actor, Inc. 2407 t,Tashington Avenue N.E. Minnea��olis, Mn 55418 Mr. & Mrs. T�rry Clasen 1573 F�rndaie Avenue N.E. Fridl�y, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Duane Pearson 1567 Ferndale Avenu� N.E. I'ridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Roger Sevr.� 5995 Benjamin Street N.F. Fx'i.dlcy, DZn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Harlen Hanscom 6000 Stinson Blvd. N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Hugh Reynold 5993 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. D. M. Fastones 6165 Briardale Court N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Arthur Mcfee 6155 Briardale Court N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrso Donald David 6145 Briardale Court N.E. �ridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. David Lang 6140 Briar_dale Court N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Dennis Malone 6131 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr & Mrs. Richard O'Donnell 1601 61st Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & T�Irs. Earl Hendricks 1611 61st Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Clarence Cassell 1621 61st Avenue N.r. Fridley, Mn 55432 , Mr. & Mrs. Lee E. Tech 1.651 61st Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 �dwin Dropps $415 Center Drive P�znneapolis, I�Zn 55432 Roland Goodr_oad 1821 Rice Cre�;c Ro�d New I3right�n, Mn 55112 �� :,�..,�-, + j I ; ,.I � , �;., � � ;�, � p �, ; � � t ,. ,, I � �� , �, � ._,_.��,�� , � ` : �' ? 'i ':i �� / �� ` 1 � � ..• `" i I � � t. . . •,i' ! � � ` � • � ! � � � e 'J.' � i � - , �.�. { �! '. . . f 1.�, t t �? ..%'.. 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ROLL CAI,L : Member_s Present: Membe.rs Absent: Others Present: fiarri.s , Forst�r llarrel Christensen, Meissner, French Clark, Community Development Administ�rator APPROVE PLATS & SU�3DIVTSTONS-STRLFTS & UTTLITIES StTFCOMI��ITTEE MINUT�S: AUGUS�r_ 14, 197� 1�902'1"ON by hieissne.r, seconded by Christensen, t-hat the P.Iats & Subdiviszons-Street�s & Utilit-ies Subcommii:tee m.inutes of August Z4, 1974 be approved as wr.itten. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the mot.ioi� carried unanimously. , 1• CONSIDF_,RATION QF A PROPOS�D PRI:LIAIII�TAFY Pl'_,.A T, P. S. �# 74-06 , ZAT�ii`�R' S _lST 1�1�T�TT:�O%�, i3Y DAILEY I10��.:�S INC. : A replat af Lat 3, Auditor � s Subdivi.siozl Noe 9?, eycept the North 169 feet of the t�est 164 � eet -thereo�, generally located South of 61st Avenue N.E.,..between Benjamin Sticet and Mc Y.inley Street N.E. Mr. Hawar_d C. Thorson of Dailey Hoznes, Inc. was present. Mr. Clark said that this was the only unplattcd land in this genera7_ b]_ock. The prop,erty in this area belongs to Mr. ZandPrs wit� the e�cept-.ion af-_ that belonginc� �o Mr. I:en Korin, which is on the North�v�st corner of this plat. The street dedicatiozi on this piat for 6Is{� Avenue c�?here it n:�etsNc_ I:iriley is siiown as 25 feet. He said he ha�i ch�ckcd wii�h the Lngineering Dep�rtment and they reported that they c3idn't need 25 feet becaus� �i:.he road is already there so ?.0 fe�t U�ou.ld be adc�quate. This five zeec �a�uld be added ta Lai. 6 �.o mak.e i-L- 80 feet, �•�hich is �ahat we need oi� a corn�r 1ot. As f.ar as the balance of_ the p�_at ti�as concerned, the shar,e and size ot the laLs ai:c: pretty mt�ch dictated by the sizi and sha�e of.: the parcel. A�r. Clark sas_d he had tal};Gd to rir. T�cn T:orin who is present at tl�is meetirzg, and there is a disc��ancy in the surveys. Mr. Y.orin hac� a sur.v�y mad� 1g years ago, and ac�ain about 5 or 6 years ago. The sui-vey oi tize prap�sed pl��t shouas a four foo�, difference wlZer� thc south line of Mr. Kor.in's propert:y meets the north line of- thi.s plat. I�cr.ording to Mr, Korin, i� �his survey is right, wher.� 61st 11vc�nue r-_x.ists, i_t �•aoul.d 1ie on his proZ�ert:y. Mr. Clark said he hopcd this survr_y wa:; wrong. I�e sai.a t.hat Pir�e Tr.ee Build�rs }�ac�. just ��latt.cd on one corner, F3ri��cl�:zlc was a nc�w plat on anoi:.her r.orner. Anay �;�wc�l rzf�d nm}��r c?aks a�.-� quite new plats, so in checl:ing aJ.t these plats, thc�y shoul.d com� to an� poi_nt en th:i.s corrier. Mr. C].ark saic� that altliouc�;� Mr. ICor.in questions thc survcy lin� � ' _ I ^ Plats & Subs.-Str. & Uti1.. Sub. Meeting Octobe.r. J_6, 1974 Page,� _ �� on this p1at, he didn't know what the Subcommittee could do at this time, in the cons�.deration of the preliminary plat. . Mr. Korin, 6051 Benjamin Street N.E., said he wanted the surv�y line resolved before tlzis plat was f-_inaliz�d. He continued that tlze survey line lze has used has been register_ed with the City for 18 years. He said that the stak� in his yard has been used by others in determi_ninq their prop�rty lines, so if this stalce is off, other property lines �ti�ould be of� also. Mr. Rorin said he didn't think it was up to him to prove wher_e his proper�ty was located and thougYlt the new survey would have t� be rechecked. �Zr. Clarlc said that surveys aren't registered with the County, but I��r. Y.or_in did have the property surveyed 18 years ago and has be�n occupying the lan� according to this survey. Mr. Clark cantinu�d that sometimcs t�he survey will indicate three points in his survcying, the pro-rated line, the platted distance and the occupation line. i�lr. Y.orin said he just want�ed the Subcommittee to be aware that th�re was a discrepanc 'in the line, because after every-L-hing was finalized, it would be too late to have tlZis problem resolved; and also he wanted to check on the drainage plane Mr. French said this ��ras just the first of many steps in the process af g�tting a plat approved. Mr. Clark said the drainage is sho�an on the plat. The dash lines are exisi.ing elevations a.nd the solid lines are th�_proposed � elevations. Mr. Thor_ son said I��r. Korin' s property �aould still drai.l � the same way as -it is noEa. I�r. Clark said they are extending an inlet for drainage. Mr. I�orin said that at the time Benja;nin Street was put �n, Alr. Qureshi saic� he could drop this street one foot for drainage or us� the money to put in a dra.in soutll of his property. Mr. Korin said he wanted both, but he couldn't have both, so he didri't think the d�a?n taas low enough to drain his property. _ AZr. C1ark said that on �his plat there was a catch basin sou�� of I�Zr_. Kori,n's sauth properf:y 1ine. It sho�,=s ari invert� of 539.94. Then they show 9?. feet of pipe going easi�, with an inlet elevation of 9�Q.3. Ti�zc�se figu�es cai7 be veriii_ed, bu-� ii� should be low eno�:crh t:o dl-ain M.r.. Korin° s yard. P�Ir. C1_ar.k asked M.r. Korin i� there was a 1ow spot in his hac}: yard. Mr. Korin said he had it graded that wa�� so i.t woul_d dra�n away from his house and drain into a hc�le south of his p��operty. Mr. FI�r��is asl:ed Mr. Clar}� to bal�anc� i:lie fill. Mr. Clar). �ilt. A1r. IIarris asked tllc� soil there was about 2 �e�t of clay, it it was the intent of t�his said no, tY�ere would 3�e a lot conditions on the plat. Mr. overlying gravel. plat oi� excess Clark said Mr.. iiarris said there is an c::isi-]_ng hause that is going to bc /'1 movcd o�zto Lot: l, and sc�i� wt�ere tllat I�nle that_'s used for clrai.i�aqc� is now, is t�his co.rr.ec.t? Mr. 7'llarsan said it was. I�2r. I?arri_s askc�d ii: th�r waulcl bc arzy }?raU1.�_�� ,�ith i�his. 1��.:. Tlio.r_son said aizy bad soil. wau:Lc1 have i:a come oui� ar�d t.li� �i11. wou.ld have to be c�ompacted. � . �_,� 1'l�zts & Subs. ,-Str_ .& Uti1.. Sub. Meetinc� Oc Lober 16,_ 1974 Page 3; Mr. IIarr.is asked how old this house was and what impr.ovements � would have to be made to brinc� it up t� code. Mr. Tl�orson sai3 it F�as about 30 to 35 years ald, ancl would have to be updated as far ��s heating, plumbinr and electricity were conc�rned. He said that struci�urally, thc l�ouse was in pretty good condition. Mr. Harris askec� if this house had a garage. Mr_. Clark said no, and if this house was goil�ig to have a garage, it would probably have to be a tuck under, bccause of the elevations of i�lze lot where this house was going to be placed. �^ Mr. Iiaxris said that �ssentially there wouldn't be any vegetation 1c:Et on this property after grading. Mr. Clar}; said r�o, because th� enLire pr.operty will have ta be regraded. There migh'� be some trees that coul.d be saved on the south end af thisproperty on the baulevards. Mr. Thorsc�n said they made it a policy to save eve.ry tree they could, but he couldn't see that many trees could be saved on this plat. Mr. Harris asked if all the la�s would meei the minimum requirement_ h�r.. Clark said they all would except �he corizei: lot mentioned befo�e, which would rnee�L tl�e requi�-emen�s after the 20 �oot dedication for 6�.st iiistead of 25 feet. Mr. Harris said that 61st is only half dedicated then. Mr. Clark said yes, it was only about a 25 foot str_eet. Mr. Harris said this makes it a subs�Landard st�eet. Asr. Ca_ark said there was a five foc� dedi_ca�Lion ior th.zs street a�ter Briai-dale va�s platted that doesn't sho�a aiz thc map, whic}i gives th� Cii�y a 30 foot right of way and w�-�h this addi_tional 20 feei_ froi�t th:is plat, the_y will have the standarr. 50 foot right of way the Cii_y usua]_ly has in residential areas. 1-i�.Y. I�arris said there is no dedi_cation 021 Z�Zr. Koriri' s prop�ity and if t:��_s sL-reet was widened ta a stai�idard street of 31 to 36 feet, it will have to be �iarro�rer in fron�L of I�Ir. �orin' s property and this would be a bottleneck as f ar as traff ir, f_ low. . Mr. Korin said that at the time 61st 7�venue was yoing in, he �aught a.c,rainst this stre�l_a He said lze had ovaned his property for 18 ycars a�1d had bui.lt_ his house so i.hat eventually he could split his pro��er_ty and sell aff a bu.�_lding sitee �C� he gave the City an ease-:�ari� for this street, }ze wot�ld be left with 3/4 oi a lot, so iristcad of ju.>t giving up the casemen�, h� woulci be 1_osing a lot he could even'�t��11.y_ s�ll. He said he never ��nted tl�is part oi Yiis lo� to be a�corner iot so he couldn' t meet �.lie lot requirc�rnen�s. Mr. Tiarris said he thought th:is problem was gning to have �.o b� dealt witii som� �.ime, because this �aas creating a pot�nti.al traffic hazard. � b2r. A�eissner_ asked the d:i_mensions oi Mi-. IC�ri_ri's c�xisti,zy houseo nort.h t� soutli. rir. I:orin said he was ann�xing 5 feet from AZr, I�i�dcr to nlake izis lot 1F9 fcet. I-Iis garac�e shc�uld be 10 f�et from the prvl�ert�,� line thcn, his l�ouse was 3G feet with an 1�3 foot add�_tion, which wot�ld malce a t.oL�il. .of �f3 iec�.. Iic would l�avc� Bl fc�ci� lefi., accor_diz:c3 to li.is sui:vey. r�r. P�Ici:;sncr ::,aid i�l-icse f�_q�.a�es c�on` t��llo« for �,-he l� �oot s�_d�y��r�d r�e�ui�-cd on i�hiC �xi_stzzic� liotise, :�o this would ma�:e �:1z� pari.-. a� �LIZC :!_ot: P�1r. I<ora.ii �aould 1.il�o to sc�11 someday as on7 y 71. �cet, wi�icl-i woulc�n' i� mcet the £30 �oot requi.rclment f_or a corn�r. 1ot. M.ra I:oriri said Plai.s & Subs. -Str. & Util o Sub. Me�t� nq - October 16, 1974 Page 4_ �"�� _ � t}�e new surveyor. was helping him out k�ecaus� of the 4 foot descrepanc.y. Mr. Meissner said he wzs aware of this problem, but it couldn't be � solved at this meetiny. � Pdr. I:orin said he was concerned about tl�e survey discrepancy and tlze drainage, otherwise l�e had no objection to this proposed p1at. Mr. Christensei� asked if the conilict on the surveying should hold up the Subcommittee's r.ecommenda�.ion on this plat, or could ii� be made a stipu:tation. ;:ir. Meissner said this �aou'ld have to be resolved before any £inalapproval could be givcn on the plat. Mr. Clark said he thought it should be stipulated that the confl.ict bet�ween the t��o surveys tiTould have to be resolved, that th�re should Ue utility eas�ment along the back property lines of the plat, and a si�orm se�aer easeraent for tYie pipe ad��acent to the south property line to the exception in this pl.at. D7r. I�orir� a�ked who would ch�ck that this catch basin would tuke care of hi_s drainag� p?-oblems so he didn' t get �-aater in his basement? A1r� C1zrk said this pipe is at least 4 feet below your basement and it's a minimum of a J_2" pi�`�e, so it should take care af all the drainage. A4r. Meissner asl:ed if Pdr. Korin had a�aroblem after this plat was developeci, ��aho would he seek redress f.rom? Iie said he supposed it would be a lega_1 problem that would l�.ave to be resolved in court. Mr. Cl�.r_?; said that if AZr. Korin would al_lova his property to be disttzrbed, tl�iere cou.ld be a swale put in on his property on the � eas�t side, and par_ t of i�he drainage could go i�o 6lst Street. i�Ir. Korin said he would have no objection to this. He said he didn't think i� woulc� '�e 1:hat ITIUCll a� a swale and t7e was mos�c concerned about water coming '.nto his basement. Mr. Thorsoz� asked Mr. Korin if he wanted an agreement drawn u�. l�ir. Karin saicf l�e didn't i�hink that was necessary. He has stat2d ��at he °:TOU7_d allo�•r this cncroachment on his property so that a swale coulc� be ��L"Olr]..CiG'C�, and he though� this �aas enough. Mr. Meissner told Air. Ko��i.n tha�L this ��ould be a priva te agreem�nt between T�z . Korin and Dai.7_�y I�on�ies. Tlie City cauld sti.pula�Le that an �greement be reacl�F,d bei�wcc��z �he two �artic�s, but how much Mr. �:orin's prope.rt�� would be �.i� turbcd ti�ould be sometlzir�g thai: would have i.o be worked out wit�-� Dailc_�� FTomes. I�ir. Korin said he feli� i.his would be a safety valve for_ i�he drainage of hi_s property. He said that whcn there were h�4vy rain.s, there �aotzld be about 8 feet of_ water in that hole south ef his propc�Li:y, and he just fe]_t that the pipe could not handle that much wai�er. Mr. I<or_ in sai_d i� L-herc was a swale on his property, and also on Lot G of this plat, h� thouc�ht tllis �aould solve the drainage prok�- Iem far ]z_i.s lot, as t�he avc�z-flo�a caater would go to 61st Avenue. Mr. ]la.r_ris �.asked Mr. 7'hor�on if he was going to run ovenc��ad or underqr�und utitities? Itir.. Thorson said he thought they would be t�nderground.. Mr. lIari a.s as},cd a}�ou�t �tl�e cllarge ior �his . I�ir. . ICo.r_ i_n said he �aarl;:ed f:or tti� po�f�cr company �ind this was sor_t af_ u?� .in tl�c� air �-i.c�lit nr��a. 7'ilcy da.d hav� :i.t so tha� there was a flat rat_e of $220 for tzndergrc>und utili.t.:i_es o�- i:i�c� opt.iori of: paying $2 p�r moni:h. Therc� was a cou��t ra ,e on thS.s r.}i��i-qe, so he couldn' t say what the poli.cy would be� until tl�i.s court case ��as se-L-t�l�d. Mr. Clark �-ald the '-' • a u�Llltles SUb. I�SeC't-inr-r _ n,.a_..L,�._ -- ...�,..c.�. .i. v� 1:1 / 4 pa�Je rJ ry Subco�nmittee that he thougl1t they should � �� from N.S.P, at one of their .future meetingstto e�pr�sentative.out xplain the policy, ^ r�r. I;orin said it was tru� that it cost more to find rob - wit11 underground utilities than overhead utiliti�s. P lems Mr. I'rench said the Subcommittee usually stipulated �hat tree be plant�d on each lot, 2" in diame�er, and due to the amo o� grading needc,d on this prop�zt one y, this would be needed, unt MOT_£ON b� I%rench, seconded ,� sions-Streets & Utilities � Chxistenson, that the Plats � Commis Su�comm.ztte� r�commend to the Pjanning Subdivi- sion, approval of th� Addii�ion, ,� Proposed p.Zat. P.�. �/74-06, Zander`s Ist SubdivzsionyNoai7e� Ho�nes, Inc., Ue�n� � replat of Lo� 3 . �2, exce�t tlie North 169 feet� of � Auditor s thereof; ger�eral:Zy located south of 61st Avenue betweensBenjarrrinet and t1c Kin1e� Street N.E., with the following sti Street pu].a tions ; 1• Suxvey problems must be resolved. 2. Provide an easemen� for the storm sewer as shown on the plate 3. 4. � 5. ^ Prvvide an easernent along the rear 1ot Zines for other utilities, SoZve the dra_inage problems with Mr, Korin. Provide one �ree per 10�� 2�� in diameter. 6• �edt1ce tne stre�� dedication for 61si- Avenue from 25 feet t° 2a fee�. so Lot 6 wiZ.� have i:he required 80` front foo ta ge � 7• Provide �znderground ut�lit.zes. Upon a voice voi:e� aJ1 voting a�e, the mot_ion Carrzed unanimousl�, 1�1r. Korin Uaid tie hop�d th� drainaqe could be worked out so this plat taouldn' t l�c fin�lized Gvithou L it. o�ze of the st=ipulati.ons of the pl_at and i�tYwou�ldnot be�a tro� -this ��is an agreenlent. �ir, i�lez.ssnei: said all �l�e cont.our lin�s wopld have1tojout be adjusted to sho�� how tlie cirainage ��roblelns were going to be resolv� r� �hcr.e is some sa.r-� of �aritt�n agreemen.t nEed�d, this will have to d� be part ol tt�e plat at the time it is submitted far final a r pp oval, t�r. Harris said he want.ed the minutes to show tha� h e d i s a g r e e d with �Lhe street la yo u t a f G ls t 1 l v enue as i t p z e s e n t l exists. Y�� t h o u g h t i t was a traffic lza z a r d a n d � Y Iie ,a;_ a JU.�t plain bad planning. Mr, Clar}c said hc� knew the City did try to get the street dedication fram both Mr. Korin and Mr. Land�r at the time 61si� StLC�et wr�s qoi»g i.n. I-� goi� t.o t)z� poin� of no rci�urn. C said tlZe loi:. t�1r. i<ori�i IZas 1�it i.s a subsiaz�dar_d lUt at tlZe� �resentcy1 tin�e . I � ��,..� .