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PL 01/09/1974 - 30391�\ �"��- - CITY OF FRIDLEY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CALL TO ORDER: 0 0 JANUARY 9, 1974 PAGE 1 Chairman Fitzpatrick called the meeting to order at 8:05 P.M. ROLL CALL: � Nlembers Present: Fitzpatrick, •Members Absent: Drigans Others Present: Darrel Clark, APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: Harris, Lindblad, Blair Community Development Adm. DECEMBER 19, 1973 MOTION by LindbZad, seconded by Harris, that the Plannir.g � Coramission approve the minutes of the meeting of December 19, 1973 ' �� as written. Upon a voice vote, aI.Z votzng aye, the motion carried unan�imously. " RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: �.—� DECEMBER 13, 1973 • � __ MOTION by LindbZad, seconded by B.Zair, that the Planning ' Commission receive the Building Standards-Design Control Subcommittee minutes of Decemb.er 13, 1973. •Upan a voice vote, all votinq aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COA'1MISS_ION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 26, 1973 . MOTION b� B1air, seconded by Harris, that the Planning • Commission receive the Parks & Recreation Commission minutes of November 26, 1973. Upon a voice vote, a11 votin�g aye, the mofion carried unanimously. . _ ,�� ;-- � RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES: DECEMBER 17, 1973 MOTION by B1air, seconaed by Harris, that the Planning Commission receive the Parks & Recreation Commission minutes of December .Z7, 1973. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES: DECEMBER 31, 1973 MOTION by BZair, seconded by Harris, that the PZanning Commission receive the Parks.& Recreation Cos.mission minutes of December 31, 1973. Upon a voice vote, a1Z voting aye, the mofion carried unanimously. Mr. Harris asked if they have settled on a locatian for the A-frame building. Mr. Blair said they had. Mr. Harris asked if it was going to be moved �n one piece. Mr. Clark said it would be. '�rhe bid to dismantle it and store it was $2500 and to move it in one piece,including the foundation, was $3300. � � Planning Commission Meeting - January 9, 1974 Page 2 � Mr. Harris asked if this building was going to be used as a � warming house only, or would they be using it for storage: Mr. Clark said�it would be used for recreation in the summer time, for class rooms. This area will be part of the trail system. It could be used for storage, but there is an old barn on�the fringe of this same park property, and I have mentioned to Paul Brown that rather than ask to have this barn removed, that this would make a good storage building. 1. CONTINUED:. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #73-13, BY A. DAVIDSON: To permit the sa•le of used cars at 7395 Highway #65 N.E., being a block North of 73Z Avenue N.E. and East of Highway #65, per Fridley City Code, Section 205.101, 3, G. � Public Hearing open. Mr. Earl Peterson, Mr. A. Davidson, and Mr. Gus Doty were present. _ Mr. Doty prE.serited a picture of American Auto Listing's locatiori at 5245 Lyndale Avenue South and copies of the warranty given by this company on their used car sales. . ^ Chairman Fitzpatrick said this item had been continued because � there were only three members present at the previous meeting and a,.,, those present w.ant�d to look at the other location where American Auta Listing was already doi�.g business. . Mr. Blair said he had looked at the picture of the facilities at 5245 Lyndale and asked Mr. Davidson what kind of. facility they intended to have in Fridley. Mr. Davidson said that in addition to the used car lot, they intended to have full service facilities, if this location was successful. Mr. Davidson said they have been in business for 8 months and this was a.new type of concept in the sale of used cars. They haven't hacl one complaint to the Better Business Bureau duf�ing this time. We� feel we have the best.warranty offered in the State. At the Ly.ndale location we only sell used cars, but at the Hopkins location, we have full service facilities. We have just renewed our license at csi�r- three p�esent locations, with no problem. . Mr. Lindblad said you charge a 15o.commission for selling these cars. Mr. Davidson said we take care of the trade-ins and the financ- ing also. • � , Mr. Clark asked how long they intended to use a temporary ^ structure at this site. Mr. Davidson said they didn't know if they �� would have �. garage at this site with a full service area and body shop, or Whether it would just be a used car office. He said they would need six months of operations to make the decision on what � type of permanent structure they would want, and within a year of Planning Commission Meeting - January 9, 1974 Page 3 ^ the start af operations, they would have a permanent structure. �� Mr. Harris said he had visited their location in St. Paul. He ' asked Mr. Davidson how long they had been in business there. Mr. Davidson said that lot had been open for 62�months, and he had to � admit this was a bad decision. They had many problems with this lot because of vandalism and the bad area it was located in. Mr. Harris said if he was to look favorably on this request, the facilities would have to be much better than what he had seen in St. Paul. Mr. Davidson said it does measure up to the neighborhood it's in. . This lot does fit in with the neighborhood and the clientele, but • they were ashamed of this location in St. Paul. - MOTIDN by Blair, seconded by Lindblad, that the PZanning Commission close the Public Hearing for the re.quest for a Special Use Permit, SP #73-13, by A. Davidson.• Upon a voice vote, aII voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Harris said if we do recommend I think we should specify a time limit, � review this after they are in operation. approval of this request, so we would be able to Mr. Fitzpatrick said that we could stipulate that before this is renewed, that a permanent structure replace the temporary structure. ^ Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark if there should be mention of the � signs, lighting, Iandscaping, curbing or a plot plan showing their �,. layou� for Council. Mr.. Clark said most of this could probably be • handled by administration, because a temporary building wouldn't go to Building Standards, but they•should have a plot plan showing all these things, before they go to Council. Mr. Harris wondered if they should have some fencing. Mr. Lindblad said it would be hard to sell�:�sed cars with a fence around the property. Mr. Harris asked what plans the petitioner had for the property zoned M-l.� Mr. Davidson said it could be used for a service area related to the used car lot. Mr. Lindblad asked Mr. Davidson what licenses were required to opertate a used car lot. Mr. Davidson said they were licensed both by the State and locally. They have to have a license for each lot. . Mr. Clark said Mr. Peterson had mentioned at the meeting of December 19th that they intended to bring sewer and water in for their temporary building. Mr. Peterson said this.was available to the site, and they wanted it brought in before they put in a permanent parking lot. Mr. Clark said there would have to be plumbing facilities ,,—� available on the site. ,� � �`�` Planning Commission Meeting - January 9, 1974 Page 4 MOTION.by Lindblad, seconded by BZair, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council approval of the request for a special use permit, SP #73-13, by A. Davidson, to permit the sale of used cars at 7395 Highway #65, being a block North of 73� Avenue N.E. and East of Nighway #65, per Fridley City Code, Section 205.I01, 3, G., for a period of one year, at which time it mast be reviewed for renewal, with the stipulations that sewer and water be provided for the temporary structure and a plot plan be prepared for present- ation to the Council. Upon a voice vote, a1Z voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. . ' 2. REQUEST FOR A LOT.SPLIT, L.S. #74-01, BY AMERICAN AUTO LISTINGS: To split off that portion of Parcel #4780 presently zoned C-2S, in Section 12, T-30, R-24, lying West of the East line of Lot 10, Block l, Central View Manor, extended North, the same being 7395 Highway #65 N.E. Mr. Clark asked if the petitioner owned all of.parcel #4780 and if it was abstract or torrens property. Mr. Doty said it was abstract property and Sheldon Mort�nson was the �ee owner of the property, but the petitioner has a purchase agreement. n�� Mr. Clark asked if they intended to split this lot immediately �- � and if they were go�ing to record it right away. Mr. Peterson said he thought they would do it as soon as possible. �Mr* Clark said the reason he was asking was�because, while he thought it was a good idea to split the property at the zoning line, the legal descrip- . tion was quite complicated, and as this property did extend from Central Avenue to Highway #65, it might be better to plat it than handle it as a lot split. .� ' ,�", � �` Mr. Harris said that at the time the Planning Commission asked the petitioner to apply for a lot split to divide the C-25 property and the M-1 property, the petitioner only had a purchase agreement on the commercial property. � Mr. Clark said he thought the City Attorney should check the legal description to .see if this meets the legal requirements for a lot split, or if it should be platted. Mr: Harris said he felt this should be divided at the zoning line also, because maybe the petitioner might want to sell the M-1 ��' property, and purchase same additiQn��._ .�omme��i��: �:ots.. that a?-e a�Yai1- able South of their present site. MOTION by Harris, seconded by Blair, that the Planning Commission recommend to Council approv.al of the request for a 1ot split L.S. #74-01, by American Auto Listings, to split off that,portion of Parcel #4780 presently zoned C-ZS, in 5ect.ion 12, T-30 R-24, Iying West of the East Zine of Lot 10, Block 1, Central View Manor, extended North, the same being 7395 Highway #65 N.E., if the description fa11s within the framework of a 1ot split, this being determined by the City Attorney. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unan.imously. Planning Commission Meeting - January 9, 1974 Page 5 �� Mr. Clark said that if the City Attorney decided this property �- should be platted, it would have to�come back to the Planning Commissio� for a Public Hearing, but this would not hold up the special use request. Mr. Peterson said this was agreeable to the petitioner. 3. ARMORY REQUEST Mr. Fitzpat�ick asked if we had had any more response on the armory request. Mr. Clark said we haven't, but he didn't expect any, because � he thought most organizations didn't meet in �ecember and would probably respond after their January meetings. He said he though t the Planning Commission could probably put this on their agenda for �he second meeting in February. - . 4. TAX FORFEIT LOTS Mr. Fitzpatrick said he wondered what had •been done about tax forfeit lots being sold that could have been used by the City. Mr. Clark said the County doesn't sell tax forfeit lots now without the app.r.oval of the City Council. � Chairman Fitzpatrick adjourned the meeting at 8:55 P.M. �� n Respectfully submitted, - l��°�c� . Dorothy�Ev son, Secretary �� . . r'-� - � 0 , �