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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 3, 1974
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CALL TO ORDER:
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Chairman Fitzpatrick called the meeting to order at 8:00 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Harris, Lindblad, Fitzpatrick, Blair
Members 3-�bsent: Drigans
Others Present: Darrel Clark, Community Development Administrator
APPROVE JOINT PLANNING COMMISSION & BOARD OF APPEALS SUBCOMMITTEE
MINUTES: MARCH 13, 1974
MOTION by Harris, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission
approve the minutes of the Joint Planning Commission and Board of Appe�1
Subcommittee meeting.of March 13, 1974.. Upon a voice vo,te, a11 voting
aye, the motion carried unanimously.
APPROVE PLANidING COMMISSION MINUTES: �MARCH 20, 1974
� MOTION by Harris, seconded by B1air, that the minutes of March
� 20th be corrected as follows: Sixth paragraph, page 17, be changed
. to a f.urniture inanufacturing building was built after the transmission
Zines were in; First paragraph, paqe 22, be changed to Mr. Harris asked;
Sixth paragraph, page 23, should read, Mr. Harris said we have to come
up with some.thing because they've got t.he City government between the
stone and the hard spot. Upon a voice vote aZl votinq aye, the motion
carried unanimously.
MOTION by B1air, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission
approvethe minutes of the March 20th meeting as corrected. Upan a voice
vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES:
MARCH 21, 1974
MOTION by LindbZad�, seconde'd by Blair, that the Planning Commission
receive the minutes of the Building Standards-Design Contral Subcomrait�e�
rneeting of March 21, 1974. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the
motion carried unanimously. �
RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: MARCH 26, 1974
MOTION by Narris, seconded by Lindb.lad, that the Planning Commission
receive the minutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee meeting of
'Ma,rch 26, 1974. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried
� unanirimousl y .
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� R�CEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: MARCH 12, 1974
Mr.�Harris said Mr. Langenfeld called him before the meeting
tonight. The first thing he wanted to know was if he should be
pre�ent for.this meeting. Mr. Harris said he told Mr. Langenfeld .
that he didn't remember if a member of the Environmental Quality °
Commission waa asked to be present at this meeting, but Mr. Langenfeld
was certainly welcome. Mr. Langenfeld said he had just been discharged
from the hospital and didn't think he was physically able to be at
the meeting. Mr. Harris said Mr. Langenfeld asked him to pass on �
a couple of comments that he had on the March 12 minutes of the �
�nvironmental Quali�ty Commission.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said there are two items in the minutes that the
Planning Commission shauld discuss. One was the motion that was
passed unanimously that the Council enact the Tree Ordinance as �
presented, and the other is the request that a member of the Environ-
mental Quality Commission be made a permanent member of the Planning
Commission. Mr. Harris said these were the items Mr. Langenfeld made
comment on. He wanted to know if this had been discussed before by
the Planning Commission and if there were any comments we would like
to make. � � �
Mr. Fitzpatrick said it had come up for discussion by the Planning
Commission before, and it was discussed by the Council at the time this
^ Environmental guality Commission was formed. The comment that was
made was that this would make the Planning Commission a 6 man board,
, which might not�be a serious problem. The other comment was that it
was not Ynown how long this Commission would be in operation, and if
it had a long duration, the question would be considered again. Mr.
Fitzpatrick said that time had probably come.
Mr. Lindblad said it seems that more consideration is being
given to environmental impact and it mi�ht be a good thing to have
someone from this Commission as a member of the Planning Commission.
Mr. Clark said this may be a question for the City Attorney, but
he didn't see why the Planning Commission couldn't operate as a 6 man
commission. He said they didn't legislate, only made recommendations.
The City Attorney could determine if the Planni�ng:Commission could
make a recommendation with a tie vote. Chairman Fitzpatrick said
it could probably be worked out that the Chairman of the Planning
Commission didn't vote. Mr. Clark said that was 'a possiblity but he
didn't think this would be necessary.
Mr. Harris said the Environmental Quality Commission would then
become a Subcommittee of the Planning Commission.' Mr. Clark said that
at the present time, it is a separate Commission directly under the .
Council.
�• � Mr. Blair said he had discussed with the Chairman of the Environment•
al Commission previously about becoming a member of the Parks & Recre-
_� ation Commission because they work in the same areas. Mr. Harris sa�d
then this Commission would be a Subcommitee of the Parks and Recreation•
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,--1 Mr. Clark. said there was even the possibility of these two
Commissions being combined. He said the Plats & Subdivisions-Streets
& Utilities Subcommittee used to be two subcommittees, and they were
combined because what they did overlapped. Mr. Fitzpatrick said Parks
and. Recreation were two separate commissions•at one time, also, and
they were combined.
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ehairman Fitzpatrick said he would hate to see the schedule for
appointing members to these committees disrupted after it finally was
set up. Mr. Clark said the members of the Environmental Quality
Commission could be plugged into that schedule. •
Mr. Eitzpatrick said this Commission has seven members and all
the other Subcommittees of the Planning Commission have 5. He thought
if tHis Commission belonged with the Planning Commission it would have
to eventually be a 5 man Commission and be brought into our schedule �
of appointments.
MOTION by Harris, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission
receive the minutes of the Environmental Quality Coramissi�on of March
12, 1974 and take under advisement having a member of this Commission
become a perrrcanent member of the Planning Commission. The number of
people serving on the Commission, how the appointments would be set
up and an opinion from the City Attorney on the feasibility of having
a six man Planninq Commission should be determined before a recommenda-
tion is made. Upon a voice vote, a1Z voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously. . �
l. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #74-03,
KENNETH LEHR: Per Fridley City Code, Section 205.051, 2, A,
to allow construction of a second accessory building on Lot 9,
Block 2, Elwell's Riverside Heights, the same being 168 Talmadge
Way N.E.
Mr. Kenneth Lehr was present.
MOTION by LindbZad, seconded by B1air, that the PZannin'g Commission
waive the reading of the Public Hearing notice on the request for a
Special Use Permit, SP #74-03, by Kenneth Lehr. Upon a voiCe vote, aZ.Z
voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. .
Mr. Clark said that Nl�, Leh-r has already been granted variances
by the Board of Appeals and approved by Council for the front yard
sethack for the proposed garage, and also a side yard variance foz
an addition, which is not part of the consideration before the Comm�s-
sion. There is no question that Mr. Lehr can build this second acces-
sory building at the proposed location if a special use is approved.
Mr. Lehr said he needecl this 22' x 26' garage because he only has
a single car garage and has two cars. He will use the present garage
^• •for storage for wood for the fireplace, a picnic table, canoe, snow
blower, lawn mower, etc. He said the garage is a little larger than
�''' normal size, but he would like to have a work bench. He said he felt
this additional garage was a necessity because they needed more'space.
He said he has a couple of trees in his yard which dictated the place-
ment of the second garage.
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� Mr. Clark said the administration thought Mr. Lehr was making
a reasonable request. There are other garages located in front of
the house in this area, so this proposal was not out of context for
this neighborhood.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said the neighbors had recei�ed notices on the
variance requests and for the request for a Special Use Permit and
no one was here with objections. Mr. Lehr said he had a letter from
a neighbor who lived a couple doors from his house who said he approved
this request and had no objections.
MOTION by'LindbZad, seconded by Harris, that the Planning
Commission clbse the Public Hearing on the request for a Special Use
Permit, SP #74-03, by Kenneth Lehr. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye,
t�e motion carried unanimously.
Chairman Fitzpatrick said that all the variances have been approvea
so we do not have to concern ourselves with the location of this
garage.
MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by B1air, that the P1an�ing Comm.ission
recommend to Council approval of the request for a Special Use Permit,
SP #74-03, by Kenneth Lehr, per Fridley City Code, Section 205.051, 2,
A, to a11ow construction of a se�cond accessory building on Lot 9, B1ock
2, E1we11's Riverside Heights, the same being 168 Talmadge Way N.E.
^ Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
2. SET PUBLIC $EARING DATE FOR ARMORY PROPOSAL
Mr. Clark said you had tentatively set this date for May 8, 1974.
Mr. Fitzpatrick asked if this was a regularly scheduled Planning
Commission meeting. Mr. Clark said it was.
MOTION by Blair, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission
set May S, 1974 as the date for a Public Hearing on the armory proposal.
Mr. Fitzpatrick asked Mr. Clark to contact General Cheeseman to
see if he could be present for this Hear.ing. He said he didn:t know
if he should be asked to make another presentation�, but he would be
able to answer any questions the audience might have on this proposal.
Mr. Clark said it was possible �hat some things might have changed since
Mr. Cheeseman made his presentation to the Planning Commission.
MOTION by Harris, seconded by B1air, that the Planning Commission
receive the letter from the Fridley,DFL, dated March 13, 1974, where
they requested that a member of this organization be notif�ed wben the
Public Hearing for the armory proposal would be he1d. Upon a voice �
vote, aI1 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
/`1' '3. RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ON TREE ORDINANCE (PETIT�O� #4-1974)
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MOTION by BZair, seconded by Narris, that the Planning Commissi�on
receive the portion of the Parks & Recreation minutes of the March 25,
1974 meeting that contain.� the discussion on t'he tree ordinance. Upon
a voice vote, a.i1 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
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� Mr. Lindblad asked if the 3 trees per acre mentioned in this
petitio�ed ordinance can.be averaged out for each site. Mr. Fitzpatrick
said he had this question also, but he thought the intent of the
ordinance meant_three trees for each acre. Mr. Clark said that on
a large parcel, it would be hard to determine where an acre would begin
and end.
Mr. Clark said he would like to make some comments on the two
proposed ordinances in the agenda. The first one is a revision of
the petitioned ordinance. In Section l, we want to add a new "b" .
which should say "groject development that involves fewer than 3
trees per acre are exempt from this ordinance". This is so that
in constructing a street, tennis court or a ball diamond, if there
were on1X one or two trees involved, it won't entail going through
the whole process as outli�ed in this ordinance. �
The Planning Commission reviewed their motion from the March
20th meeting. Mr. Fitzpatrick said they had asked to have a referendum
vote on the use of North Park included in the proposed ordinance. Mr.
Clark said the reason it wasn't in the two proposed ordinances in the
agenda was because he wanted the Plannirig Commission to say how they
wanted it worded.
Mr. Clark said it could be made part of this ordinance with another
Section, or it could be a motion that any.park development on larger
^� than 120 acres would have to go to a referendum vote.
Mr. Lindblad said he thought the acreage should be less than
120 acres. He thought 65 acres would be better.
Mr. Clark asked Mr. Blair how big Locke Park was. Mr. Blair
said it was 102 acres.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said we aren't really trying to imvolve the use
of Locke Park in this ordinance. He said that Locke Park is basically
developed, but he had he�rd of different proposals for Locke Park from
time to time, also. Probably any drastic change in the use of Locke
Park should be included in this also.
Mr. Clark said that if the statement said l00 acres, this would
include Locke Park. .
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Mr. Harris said he couldn't really see where the City would be
acquiring another site of that size. Mr. Clark�said there was a
possiblity that Fridley might obtain .BanfieldIsland in the Mississippi
River. Mr. Harris said this island•was only about 30 acres.
Mr. Harris said that someone hacl either written a letter or
telephoned the Commissioner of the Department of Natural Resources
^. .and asked some questions about the North Park site. They asked how
many acres were under water, the quality of the water in, and the
- quality of the water ou�, and some other questions. This inquiry was
' passed on to the Department Heads of the D.N.R. Mr. Harris continued,
that one of the Department Heads was a friend.of his and called him
and asked if he could arrange for a review of the site. Mr. Harris
said he contacted Paul Brown and Darrel Clark and a meeting was set
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up on March 29th. There were four people from the Department of
Natural Resources, one member from the Pollution Control Agency,
Paul Brown, Darrel Clark and himself. They looked over the entire
site. Mr. Harris.said Paul Brown will be making a report on this
meeting. He didn't know if the Department of Natural Resources would
be making a report or not.
Mr. Harris said they wanted the complete lay of the land and
took some vegetation samples. Mr. Cl.ark said they asked the zoning
on all four sides of the park, what drainage facilities went into
the park and what �t was surrounded by as to development.
Mr. Fitzpatrick asked if they gave any reason for all these
questions? Mr. Harris said it was to answer the inquiry they had.
Mr. Clark said it might have had to do with the Environmental Assess-.
ment Statement they have requested also. Mr. Clark said if they were
just going to read the statement, it might be hard to visualize. After
they have visited the site, the report would be more meaningful.
Mr. Clark said the difference between the two proposed ordinances
in your agenda is that one is on City owned property onl�, and the
second ordinance is for all property except R-1. He said he talked
to Jerry Boardman about this ordinance and Mr. Boardman's feelings
were that because all building permits are processed through Building
Standards and Council for commercial, industrial and apartment complexes,
we both thought these could be excluded. We then thought, why include
private property at all, because we could streng"then the ordinances
we have for land alteration, P.D. development and building permits.
We could require that they would have to bring in a topography map
and show the existing trees and which ones they will have to remove
and which ones they can save.
Mr. Harris asked if that wasn't required at the.present time. Mr.
Clark said we do, in so many words, but we don't require the devel�per
to show alI the existing trees. If the site isn't familiar to the
people cansidering the proposal, there would be no way of knowing how
many trees were involved, under our present system. Mr..Clark said
that this is where the regulat�_ons could be strengt�ened, rather than by
clouding an issue that is so involved now. He said a good tree manage-
me�t program pertaining to private property could be taken up at a
later date, or the present ordinances could be strengthened.
Chairman Fitzpatrick said this is how he felt about it also. He
said we should focus on the issue of City owned.land. Mr. Clark said
he did feel that if we were going to have a good tree management program,
it would have to include all land. •Mr. Fitzpatrick said it could come
in another form, as Mr. Clark has mentioned.
Mr. Clark said the difference in th'e proposed ordinance and
.the petitioned ordinance is that there is no limit on the amount
'� of trees removed per acre if they go through the prescribed process,
`= it exeludes utility companies on an emergency basis for trimming or
removing trees, it would allow the Park Department to trim trees in
the parks and if a�tree was damaged, it would.allow removal of that tree.
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'�'1 Mr. Fitzpatrick asked about the development of other park sites,
other than North Park. Mr. Clark said they would have to go through
the Parks & Recreation Commission, the Planninq Commission and"Council.
Mr. Blair said that in the letter from the Department of Natural
Resources, they made the statement that in areas where there are no
large trees, smaller trees should be retained. Is there any way we
can get this in the ordinance? Mr. Blair said he has a tree in his
back yard that is 13 years old and is not 3" in diameter. Mr. Clark
said that if you include trees smaller than 3" it would make it almost
impossible to show the existing trees on some of these sites becaus�
it would include so many.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said.this refers to two kinds of problems. The
ord�nance pertains to large trees and the recommendation from the
Department of Natural Resources is on property where there are no
large trees.
Mr. Harris said we have the street right of way for the extension
of Main Street. What happens when it becomes time to put this street
.in, under this ordinance. Mr. Clark said�that a plan would have to be �
drawn up showing al1 the trees in the project. This plan would show
the trees that would be replaced. It would have to go to the Parks
and Recreation Commission, Planning Commission and Council. He said
that as there is already a Public Hearing process for streets, he didn't
� think that having to go through these other Commissions should hold up
street construction. He said that both the Engineering Department and
-, the Park Department has a schedule for any new development, so this
could jus� be included in that time schedule.
Mr. Clark said they couldn't find another ordinance that just
covered City owned land.
� The Planning Camnission went through the proposed ordi.nance on
City owned land. Mr. Fitzpatrick said he thought that having a
development that only needed to have one or two trees removed, exluded
from this.ordinance was a good idea. He said we want to'know about
any area where a large amount of trees were being removed, but we
don't want to be flooded with requests that only involve one or two
trees. �
Mr. Harris asked abou� school property. That was publicly owned
land. Mr. Clark said this ordinance is for City owned land and would
exclude school districts. If the ordinance said public owned land, it
�would cover a lot more property than the City owned land.
Mr. Clark said our Paragraph C differs from their Paragraph B
in that it doesn't limit the removal of trees to 3 per acre per year.
Mr. Blair said in referring back to the letter from the Department
^, of Natural Resources again, he thought the ordinance should read for
,�, the purpose of woodland preservation, rather than management.
Mr. Lindblad asked if this ordinance was going to create a problem
if we have a City Forester and he wanted to go in and brush out some land:
• He said he also thought that this ordinance would require any de�elopment
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to spend a lot of money for an elaborate blueprint showing all the
trees.
� Mr. Fitzpatrick said this is the heart of this ordinance. Mr,�
Clark said he thinks the people have shown a lack of confidence in
the City administration or Council to protect the trees and that
is why they have asked for this ordinance. If the 30,000 people
in Fridley would trust the City to have a good tree management program
without this ordinance, it would be wonder�ul.
Mr. Lindblad said his concern was that this was going to involve
a lot of money being spent to conform to this ordinance.
• Mr. Harris said he thought that part of the reason this ordinance
was petitioned for was because of street proje�ts. He said that the
City has certain right of way to work with, and they put the road in
on a straight line regardless of the trees involved. Mr. Clark said
he could name any amount of streets that have been shifted to save
boulevard trees, but it has happened.
Mr. Harris said that some of
have said that even if an effort
were exposed, and later on these
anyway.
the people who have talked to him
was made to save some trees, the roots
trees died and had to be removed
Mr. Fitzpatrick said this is what happened in North Minneapolis
when they went through and widened some streets. They cut half the
roots off these trees and a couple of years later a good wind came
along, and all these trees went down. What control do we have on
something like that?
Mr. Clark said he thought that when a plan was presented showing
the entire right of way and the trees that have to be removed and �
the trees that are going to be saved, you can do something at that
time, He said that if these trees were trimmed back so the. roots
would have a chance to take hold again, this could save these trees.
Mr. Clark said the paragraph in the proposed ordinance differs
from Section 1, C, of the petitioned ordinance in that it does not
say that the land has to be restored to its original condition.
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Mr. Fitzpatrick said this was something the Northern States Power
Company people objected to also.
Mr. Harris said he could see why they were concerned about a
large tree growing up into their lines and causing a problem, but
there were smaller trees that could be planted under these lines.
He said they could have planted some evergreens in Locke Park. Mr.
Clark said that Northern States Power Company didn't take out any
trees in Locke Park, they used the railroad right of way.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said the utility companies will have to submit'
plans for planned development just the same as the City. He said he
was sure that other cities will be.having tree ordinances, so they
will be having this problem in other places. Mr. Lindblad said he
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thought most of their concern was for emergency situations.
Chairman Fitzpatrick said that.Section 2 still says 3" in
diameter and this is where we would have to put something in for
smaller trees if we want it in the ordinance.
Mr. �arris said this business about 3" in diameter is like
Mr. Blair mentioned, where he has had a tree for 13 years and it's
not 3" in diameter. He said it depends upon the species. Some
trees are 6" in diameter in just a few years. Mr. Fitzpatrick said
it would also depend upon what area we were looking at. He said he
would hate. to see any sizable hard wood tree removed.
Mr. Clark said one of the reasons this was. left at 3" was because
if we do get a City nursery those �rees would be transplanted under
3". These trees would be excluded from this ordinance. If you get
smaller than a 3" diameter tree, you're going to get involved with
a program that will be hard to administer.
Mr. Harris said that without naming any species.he didn't see
how we can get below the 3" diameter. �
Mr. Clark said the City is planning to hire a naturalist and I
would hope that this would give everyone in the City confidence that
^ he would see that desirable trees weren't removed or destroyed. Mr.
Fitzpatrick said a naturalist wouldn't be inclined to take these
trees whether they were protected or not.
Mr. Clark said that in the park that is being developed in North
Innsbruck, they were keeping it i�n its natural state as much as
possible. He said they may want to have a picnic area in this park
which would involve some brushing. He said we wouldn't want to make
this into a big project.
Mr. Harris said when they had the meeting in North Park, there
was mention made that there were some endangered species of plant life
in t�is Park. He said the State has some regulations about cutting �
these species. Mr. Fitzpatrick said if the City had a naturalist,
it would be his business to know these regulations and what species are
protec�ed. .
Mr. Lindblad asked what the City did with trees it had to cut
down. Mr. Clark said they have cut down very few, but we usually cut
the larger pieces up and leave them and within a day or two they have
completely disappeared. They chip out the stumps.
Mr. Fitzpatrick asked about diseased trees. Mr. Clark said the
smaller'branches are run through a chipper and are hauled to a land
fill that is under the jurisdiction of the Anoka Health Department.
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ordinance. They added
other City owned public
have added to Secti.on 3 of the petitioned
that " the routine trimming in City parks and
land be allowed" and they have also added
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r`1 ' Paragraphs a and b under Section 3. Paragraph "a" states " This
ordinance is not to be so construed as to prohzbit any utility company
from removing any tree that has become a hazard to normal service,
however, this waiver does not apply to new installations or to pre-
planned routine maintenance", and Paragraph "b" states " Nothing in
this ordinance shall be construed to prevent the City from removing
a tree from street right of ways, City Parks or other City owned land,
that has by nature become damaged so as to be no longer viable.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said that in his judgement this proposed ordinance
follows the inteni of the petitioned ordinance, but still was workak�le.
He said it was a good beginning on a tree ordinance and we don°t have
any precedence to follow. We will still have to find some way to
include our intent o� having the use of North Park go to a referendum
vot�.
Mr•. Harris said he thought that Paragraph "a" should be changed
from removing any tree to trimming any tree. Mr. Clark said that
if they had to remcve a tree that had grown too large, to him this
was pre-planned maintenance and would not be excluded from this
�,ordinance. He said that they don't go out one day, and decide the
- next�day that a certain tree has to come down. Mr. Fitzpatrick said
this section is for a hazard after a storm. Mr. Clark said we could
add to this paragraph -"or to the total removal of any undamaged
mature tree". Mr. Harris said he thought this would be satisfactory.
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Mr. Fitzpatrick said we still have to get our recommend�tion that
. North Park go to a re�erendum vo-te in this ordinance.
Mr. Lindblad said rather than talk about the amount of acreage
of a park use that should go for a referendum vote, why don't we call
a spade a spade, and just say that any City owned property that is �
proposed to be used for a golf course go to a referendum vote.
Mr. Clark said this could be Section 5 of the proposed ordinance
if you want this as part of the ordiz�ance. Mr. Harris said he didn't
know.if this could be pa�"t o�' this ordinance or not. Maybe it should
be a separate ordinance.
Mr. Clark asked the Planning Commission if they felt the use of
North Park should go to a referendum vote. All tY.�e members present
said they thought it should go to a referendum vote. Mr. Clark said
if you don't want to include it in the ordinance you could just make
it part of your motion that the Council seriously consider having this
go to a referendum.
Mr. Fizpatrick said he knew the problems involved, but he woul�d
like to see it tied more closely to the proposed tree ordinance. He
said that even if this has a lot of weaknesses it does include our
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�, Mr. Harris said that land use has nothing to do with tree management.
Mr. Fitzpatrick said he realized this but this wouldn't be the first
ordinance that had a dual purpose.
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^ Mr. Harris�said we could say that the development on City owned
property over X number of acr�s should go to referendum vote.
. Mr. Fitzpatrick said we are faced with.two things. One is to
make this ordinance as acceptabl� to the sponsoring committee as
possible to keep this ordinance from going to a referendum and the
other thing is to make clear our intent.
Mr. Clark said that Section 5 could read that " The City does
hereby ardain that all City owned land of over 100 acres (or what
ever amount of acres you want) go to referendum before d'evelopment '
plans are submitted as prescribed in paragraph "c". Mr. Fitzpatrick
said this wasn't the line he was thinking about. Mr. Lindblad said
he would like to see the•statement changed to 50 acres. Mr. Blair
said 50 acres wQUld include a lot Af parkland and we don't want to
have to go to referendum for every park�development. He said we
still have 17 acres to develop in Locke Park and this is an 102
acre park. Mr. Fitzpatrick said the development of the balance of
Locke Park wouldn't be changing its use.
�• Mr. yindblad asked how many acres would be needed for a short
course golf course. Mr. Clark said that if you want any proposal
for a golf course to go to a referendum vote, th�� maybe that's what
you should say. M1c. Lindblad said he thought this�would be the
simplist thing to do.
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Mr. Harris said maybe we shouldn't put in the ordinance what
we tY�ink. Mr. Blair said, maybe we should. Mr. Lindblad said he
thought golf course should be specifically mentioned because this
is where the contention is. Mr. Blair said we could spend hours
trying to get around the real issue but this is what the issue is.
The motion could be that the City not remove trees for the purpose
of constructing a golf course without a referendum vote.
Mr. Clark asked if this was going to be a motion or made a section
of the ordinance? Mr. B],air said he was talking about a motion, but
this�could be made a section of the ordinance. He said Yie thought
nature center should be added.
Mr. Clark said there was a diff�rent type of bond needed i£ it
was going to be developed as a nature center or a golf course. He
said a golf course is supposed to be self-supporting and would require
one kind of bond and a nature ceater may not be, so this would be a
different type of bond.and would require a referendum anyway, because
it would be added to the mill rate for taxes.
Mr. Lindblad said if we leave North Park in its natural state, it
shouldn't cost anything. .
,� Mr. Blair said they're talking about a nature center costing $90,000.
Mr. Harris asked what was going to make it cost that much. Mr. Fitz-
�"' patrick said it would be something like Woodlake. Mr. Blair said they
would have to remove trees to put buildings on this site. He said
they could leave the nature center off the ordinance.
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Mr. Clark said for Section 5, he had written down that it
could say "The City of Fridley further does ordain that before
it removes trees from City owned land for the development of a
golf course, it shall go to a referendum vote".
Mr. Fitzpatrick said his Section 5 starts out that "The City
shall not remove trees.........."
MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by BZair, that the Planning Commiss.ion
recommend to Council a revised proposed tree ordinance as follows:
AN ORDINANCE PROHIBITING THE DESTRUCTION OF TREES ON CITY
OWPIED PUBLIC LAND IN�THE CITY OF FRIDLEY EXCEPT UNDER
•SPECIFIED CONDITIONS •
THE CITY OF FRIDLEY DDES ORDAIN AS FOLLOWS:
SECTIDN 1. No person or corporation, pub.Zic or private, including but
. not Zimited to the City of Fridley, its officers, employees.
or agents, sha11 order or cause the injury or destruction
of any .living tree on City owned land except under the
. following conditions:
^ a. For control of a1Z type�s of tree diseases; such as
verified cases of Oak WiZt or Dutch EIm, as provided
, .zn Ch. 104 of the Fridley City Code.
b. Project developrrient that invoZves the removal of fewer
than 3 trees per acre are exempt from this ordinance.
c. For purposes of woodland preservation, the removal of
trees may be permitted, but only after a management
pZan justifying such removaZ has been reviewed by the
Fridley Parks and Recreation Commission, the Fridley
Planning�Commission and approval by the Fridley City
CoanciZ. No tree rerr�oval sha11 be alZowed under the
provisions of this paragraph which is not defined in
the p1an.
d. For purpos,es of necessary street and public utility
construction, but only after the preparation of a
detaiZed plan and approval by the authorities named
in Paragraph "c" above. No such plan sha11 be approved
which daes not provide for reforestation and the
restora�ion of the land according to the plan as approved
by the City Council.
e. For the purpose of park or other civic development but
/'� only after the preparation of a detailed plan and review
`., by the authorzties named in Paragraph "c" above. Such
plan must indicate how the final development will be
done, incZuding ground cover and tree plantings.
SECTIOIV 2. Trees measuring less than 3 inches in diameter at a point
4 feet above. ground are exempt�from the provisions of this
ordinance.
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� SECTION 3. Nothing in this ordinance shall be construed to prevent
the routine trimming of trees in street right of way, City
Parks or other City owned public Iand.
a. This ordinance is not to be so construed as to prohibit
any utlit� company from removing any tree that has
become a hazard to normal service, however, this waiver
does not apply to new instaZZations or to pre-planned
routine maintenance or to the total removal of an
undamaged mature tree.
b. Nothing in this ordinance sha11 be construed to prevent
the City from removing a tree from street right of ways,
City Parks or ofher City owned 1and, that has by nature
.become.damaged so as to be no longer viable.
SECTION 4. Any person who violates this ordinance sha11 be guilty of
a misdemeanor. The injury or destruction of each protected
tree sha11 be a separate violation.
. ..SECTION 5.. The City of Fridley sha11 not�remove trees for the purpose
' of developing a golf course without first submitting such
proposed use to a public referendum for approval.
UPON a voice vote, aZ1 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
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MOTION by B1air, seconded by Harris, that this ordinance be
sent.to the five members of the Sponsoring Committee of the petitioned
ordinance. Upon a voice vote, a1l.voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously. ,
Mr. Clark said copies of this proposed ordinance should be
sent to the Parks & Recreation Commission and Environmental Quality
eommission. Chairman Fitzpatrick agreed.
Chairman Fitzpatrick ac�journed the meeting at 10:25•P.M.
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Respectfully submitted,
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- Dorothy Ev son, Secretary