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PLANNING COMMISSION MEET
City of Fridley
AGENDA
�IAY 7, 1975
CALL TO ORDER:
R�LL CALL:
APPROVE PLA{VNING COMMISSI N MINUTES: APRIL 23, 1975
RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS UBCOMMITTEE MINUTES: APRIL 29, 1975
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CONTINUED: RE UEST OR A LOT SPLIT, L.S.:,#71-08, BY CLIF= • 22 - 3Q
FORD J. THOE: To sp it off the Westerly 70 feet of the
South�rly 123 feet, xcept for that part�taken far highway
purposes, of Lot 18 Block 2, Central View Manor, to split
the residence from t e service station property, the same
being 7240 Central A enue N.E.
PUBLIC HEARING: RE EST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP 31 - 35
#75-03, BY ORVILLE J COBSON: To aT]ow the construction
of a second accessor building, a 24 x 24 foot garage
on the South 100 feet of Lot 7, Block 2, Brookview 2nd
Addition, per Fridley Ci�y Cod�s Section 205.051, 2, A,
the same being 6606 B.00kview Drive N.E.
PUBLIC HEARING: REZO ING RE UEST, ZOA #75-03, CITY OF 36 - 42
FRIDLEY: Rezone from M-2 heavy industrial areas to
C-2 general business areas), a previously public owned
parcel, part of Lot 3, Auditor's Subdivision No. 39,
so this property will be zoned to conform with the present
use, the same.being 3 20 East River Road.
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5. PLANNING COMMISSION R ORGANI2ATION STRUCTURE
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PLANNING COMMISSION P�IEETING
CALL TO ORDER:
CITY OF FRIDLEY
APRIL 23, 1975
Chairman Harris called the meeting to order at 8:05 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
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Members Present: Meissner, Lindblad, Harris, Drigans
Members Absent: Peterson
Others Presen�: James Langenfel.d, Ex-officio Member
Darrel Clark, Community Develnpment Administrator
AP,PROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: APRIL 9, 1975
MOTION by Dz:gans, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planninq Commission approve
their minutes of the April 9, 1975 meeting as written. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting
aye, the motion carried unanirnously.
RECEIVE BUILDING STANDARDS-DESIGN CONTROL SU6COMP�IITTEE MINUTES::APRIL 10, 1975:
Mr. Lindblad said there had been several changes in the proposal by W. R. Stephens
for a new and used car dealership, but he thought these should be taken up at the
time of the consideration of the Special Use Permit.
�� MOTION by Lindblad, seconded by Drigans, that the Planninq Commission receive
the minutes of the Building Standards-Design Control 5ubcommittee meeting of Apri1
� 10, 1975. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, t_he motion carried unanimously.
RECEIVE BOARD OF APPEALS SUBCQMMITTEE MINUTES: APRIL 15, 1975
MOTION by Drigans, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission receive
the minutes of the Board of Appeals Subcommittee meeting of April 15, 1975.
Mr. Drigans said that on page 8 of these minutes, there was a motion asking an
interpretation of the code. He said he had received this interpreta�tio� and it was
that a variance could not be granted to allow a use that was�specifically excluded
in a certain zoning. '
UPON A VDICE VOTE, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
1. CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING RE UEST, ZOA #75-02, BY WYMAN SMITH, ATTORNEY
FOR RICHARD PO1lLITZKI AND THE FRIDLEY FRONTIER CLUB: To rezone from C-1 local
business areas to C-2 general business areas , Lot 1, Block 1, Walnut Addition,
to bring the existing use of the property into a uses permitted category of the
. City Zoning Code, the same being 7365 Central Avenue N.E.
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Public Hearing open,
Mr. Richard Povlitzki and his attorney, Mark Haggerty were present.
Mr. Haggerty said that what he had said at the April 9, 1975 Planning Commission
meeting was still the same, but he would like to add some additional comments. He
said it had been brought to his attention that one of the primary concerns on this
property was the parking. He said that on the plan drawn up by the City staff, there
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P"� were approximately 64 parking stalls. Undex�the present City Code, they need a ratio
� of 4 to 1 which was one stall for each 4 occupants. He said that Mr. Povlitzki in
his remodeling plans, has proposed a seating capacity of 287. He said the 64 stalls
would only allow a seating capacity of 256. He said they proposed at this time, in
order to obtain the rezoning and trying to get a liq.uor license, that they would
purchase or rent property within 500 feet of the Frontier Club, possibly even just
south of this property, so the ratio would be brought up to a three to one ratio.
Another alternative would be to reduce the seating capacity. He said that either
way would comply with the liquor ordinance that was being proposed by the City Council.
Mr. Haggerty said he was asking 'the Planning Commission to recommend approval
of the rezoning request so this long established business could comply with the zoning
code.
MOTION by Meissner, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission close
the Public Hearing on the rezoning request, ZOA �''75-02, by Wyman Smith, attorney for
Richard Povlitzki and the Frontier C1ub at 8:15 P.M. Upon a voice vote, a11 vot�ng
aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Drigans said he had looked at this facility and had taken into consideration
the problems they have had. He said he was concerned about the parking, and the
problems they have had outside the building. He said that the two complaints we have
had, had nothing to do with the operation of this business on the inside of the Frontier
Club. He continued, that this was an established business and had been there for
� many, many years, and a1l;hough the ownership has changed many times,
the business h�s
` stayed basically the same. He said the present owner has been there many years. He
felt that if this was a new facility, he would not recommend that this area be rezoned
for this use. He said this propert;y was already in a commercial zone, and the zoning
�hange would still be a commercial zone and that whether this was classi�ied as a
local business area or a general business area, that wouldn't change the clientele
coming to this establishment.
MOT�'ON by Driqans, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission recommend
to the Council, approval of the rezoning request, ZOA #75-02, by Wyman Smith, Attorney
for Richard Povlitzki and the Fridley Frontier C1ub, to rezone from C-1 (1oca1 business
areas) to C-2 (general business areas),Lot 1, Block 1, Walnut Addition, to bring the
existing use of the property into a uses permitted category of the City Zoning Code,
th� same being 7365 Central Avenue N.E., with the stipulations that adequate parking
be provided and the landscaping and 3ighting plan be reviewed by the Buildzng Standards-
Design Contr.ol Subcommittee. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
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2. CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARING: RE UEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #75-02, 3Y
WYMAN SMITH, ATTORNEY FOR W. R. STEPHENS, JR: To permit the sale of new and
used cars, per Fridley City Code, Section 205.101, (3, B) and (3, G) in a C-2S
zone (general shopping areas) to be located on Lot 1, Block 1, Pe�rson's Second
Addition, the same being 7701 East River Road N.E.
Public Hearing open.
Mark Haggerty, Attorney, and W. R. Stephens, and Roland Benjamin were present.
MOTION by Meissner, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission receive
the minutes af the Environmental Quality Commission meetinq of Apri1 i5, 1975. Upon
a voice vote, al.t voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
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Mr. Haggerty said they had been making changes on their proposal right up
� to the beginning of this meeting, so he would like to confer with his client bef,ore
he made his presentation. He said he thought Mr. Clark could explain some of the
revisions in the plan.
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Mr. Clark said that this had been before both the Environmental Quality
Commission and the Building Standards-Design Control Subcommittee since the Planning
Commission had seen this proposal. lie said that Building Standards made several
revisions to the proposal, including revising the plan for the front of the building
and the parki�g areas. He said that some of the City staff and representatives of
W. R. Stephens had met that morning, and afterwards they both went back and drew up
a pTan on what had been discussed. He said that both plans had been brought to
this meeting and were basically the same with a display area in the fro�t of the
building. The main difference in the tvro plans was that the City was proposing a
free standing pylon sign, which might be difficult to install because of the overhead
wires. Mr. Clark presented the design for pylon signs as drawn by the Ci•ty staff.
He continued that there had been a couple of inquiries from the petitioner �n regard
to the stipulations of Building Standards. One of the stipulations was that the
existi;ng concrete slab in front of the building be cut in a wedge shape. The petitioner
said that because of the thickness of this slab, he would rather not cut it, and
would rather limit the number of cars that could be-parked on the slab and use redwood
planters two feet high, in this are� to add to the landscaping. He said the other
question the petitioner had was on the stipulation 6y the Environmental Quality Commis�
sion t�at there be no access to East River Road from this property. Mr. Clark said
that in the discussion two weeks ago, it was brought out that when this property was
platted, there was one access given to the two C-2•S lots, the one the petitioner wanted
to use and the lot to the North. The plan shown has the driveway centered on the
property line so there would be one access for the two lots. Mr. Clark said they
also discussed many types of lighting plans and the various types of fixtures that
were available. He said that all the lights would be totally directional.
Mr. Harris asked that if the pylon sign couldn't go under the overhead electrical
wires, where could it go? Mr. Clark said that a pylon sign could probably be used,
but not at the height shown. He said the proposed sign was limited to 25 feet by the
City Code. Mr. Lindblad said that he remembered from previous discussion that no light
or sign could be over 20 feet in height, because of these overhead wires. Mr. Clark•
said the petitioner would like to haue a wall sign and were told that �this would -
have to be located on the warehouse portion of the building instead of the snow room,
and the�etters could only �e 2 1/2 to 3 fee� in height.
Mr. H�ggerty said he thought Mr. Clark had answered some of the questions that
were asked�at the April 9th meeting on the appearance, lighting and landscaping for
this proposal. He said he would like Mr. Herb Bacon of Bacon's Electric to explain
how the lighting has been worked out for this proposal. He said the lights would
be 25 feet in height instead of 20 feet as mentioned at the last meeting, but they
were reducing the candle power.
Mr. Bacon explained where the lights would be located and said they would be
directional and adjustable so there would be no lights shining into the traffic on
�East River Road or into the residences across the street. Mr. Bacon had a brochure
n showing the type of lights that would be used.
Mr. Langenfeld said he would like to read the stipulations recommended by the
� Enviranmental Qualjty Commission on this request. They were:
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1. Noise levels must meet the standards set down in Zoning Ordinance No. 205.112.
� 2. Light levels on a residential property after 9:00 P.M. shall not exceed that
proposed by a standard 250 watt mercury vapor lamp, located 100 feet from such
a residential property.
3. No entranceway or exit shall be established or used on the property along
East River Road.
4. We urge that the developers consider the recommendations of the affected
residents.
5. The developer consider eliminating the .proposed pole sign for aesthetic
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Mr. Langenfeld said that some of these stipulations had already been discussed
at this meeting.
Mr. Drigans aske� how the Environmental Quality Commission came up with the
specifications for the second stipulation? Mr. Langenfeld said those were the
requirements for street lights in residential areas.
• Mr. Haggerty asked Mr. Bacon if he could relate candle power to 250 watt mercury
vapor lamps. Mr. Bacon said the security lights were only 175 watts and were only on
the building, so those were well below the standards set. Mr. Haggerty said it had
been stated before that this establishment would be open four nights, Monday through
� Thursday, until 9:00, Friday and Saturday they would close at 6:00, and Sunday they
would be closed, so that with daylight saving time, the main lights v�ouldn't be on
that much. Mr. Haggerty continued that a� far as the noise levels, he thought the
traffic.on East River Road would generate enough noise so that you wouldn't hear any
noise frorn this establishment.
Mr. Haggerty said they would only use as many security lights as they would
need for police protection and for security purposes. .
Mr. Clark said he thought it should be mentioned that the two Committees who
reviewed this plan didn't agree on the sign. One committee said they didn't like the
wall sign, put it on a pole, and the other committee said they didn't like the pole
sign, put it on the wall.
. Mr. Haggerty said the recommendation from Mr. Clark's office was to have the
pylon sign. Mr. Haggerty said there were power poles on this property and also a
very deep drainage ditch along East River Road and they would have to stay away from
these areas with a pylon sign. He said a pylon sigh such as was proposed would cost
approximately $10,000. and that Mr. Stephens was already investing around $100,000
� in this property and did not want to spend this much for a pylon sign. He said that
also, in their franchise for a Datsun dealership, it states that they have to have a
� particular sign, and a pylon sign would not meet the franchise requirements. They
say that each one of the letters has to be six by six, and the only way they could
meet that requirement was to have a wall sign on the building. He said there was
^ a small sign in existance along 77th Way in the southwest co�rner of the lot. They
.� would like to keep that sign. There was another small sign on the driveway area of
this property on East River Road, and that sign will be removed.
Mr. Haggerty said there would be 90 parking stalJs on this piece of property.
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He said he didn't think they would need that many parking stalls to begin with, and
� if they got too many cars on the lot they would use auxilliary parking in some other
are�;. We will not congest this area with too many automobiles. The ninety stalls do
not include tre parking space inside the building. He said that Building Standards
had requested that they have slats all along the back fence. Ne said that at the
present time there was a fence that went along the property line for Barry Blower,
and for security reasons, we wish to leave this fence as an open chain link fence.
He said there was also a proposal to put in another fence that would run parallel
with East River Road, and this fence be a solid decorative fence. He said this would
cause security problems also, because someone could go behind this solid fence and
strip a car in a matter of minutes. Mr. Stephens presented a material, a treated
metal panel, that they proposed to put in this fence in a sort of checkerboard pattern,
that would alternate open spaces with�this material. It would give the appearance of
a solid fence, but it would be open enough to satisfy security. Mr. Stephens said
� a solid fence could create security problems for Barry Blower also.
Mr. Haggert�' said he thought':this answered the questions that were raised at the
last meeting, and he would be glad to answer any additional questions.
Mr. Lindblad, Chairman of Building Standards, said he was satisfied that there
be some decorative treatment to the fence that ran parallel to East River Road, and
he didn't remember that they asked the chain link fence on the property line to be
slatted. He said he wasn't personally in favor of slatting, because it only looked
good for such a short time. He would be willing to agree that this fence be a plain
chain link fence. Mr. Haggerty said the main concern was security.
� Mr. Stephens said that a Datsun dealership was required to have a standard sign.
He said this sign would be placed on the building, which would put it about 150 feet
� to 175 feet from East River Road and it would be completely illuminated from behind
the sign. It would not be a neon sign. The light from this sign would not extend
beyand the show room area. .
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pon Leivermann, 7847 Alden Way, said he tt�ought it was poor planning to have
a retail operation at this location. He thought it would increase traffic and would
be better located some place else in Fridley.
Paul Burkholder, 7860 Alden Way N.E., said he still felt this was totally incon-
sistant with the make up of ihe area. He said that East River Road was not a commercial
strip. He continued that for the last couple of weeks he made a�note of where other
car dealerships were located in other communities. He said they were all clustered
around major arterial highways. Some examples were Brooklyn Center, Roseville,
Golden Valley and White Bear Lake, etc. Mr. Burkholder said he thought this property
was zoned wrong in the first place. He said he would like to know what the original
developer intended for this property when it was zoned C-2S. He said that Mr. Clark
had pointed out the alternate uses this property could have, but no one has come
forward asking to use this property for any of those alternate uses. He said he thought
the reason car dealerships required a Special Use Permit was because people got emotion-
ally involved when such a proposal came for their neighborhood. He said he personally
had a real estate investment of $150,OOO�within 40 feet of this property, and his
personal home was five blocks away, so he felt he had a substantial investment that
was being jeopardized by this operation coming:into this area: He said he thought the
real estate values would go down if this request was granted. He said all the talk
about the need for security was beginning to bother him also, as he hadn't thought of-
that before. If this car lot drew the type that stripped cars, then how about his
tenants cars who live in the four plexes directly across the street. These cars would
be vandalized also. He said he would have to assume that Mr. Stephens would be
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successful in this business and it was his personal feeling that this business would
T"� be expanding to the lot north of the present site, and the t�o lots would be one big
car lot. Mr. Burk'riolder said he had no personal vendetta against Mr. Stephens, and
as a businessman and a real estate broker, he could see that this was a good invest-
ment. He said they had made the statement at the last meeting that they would do
all that had been requested to get this business at this location. Now they are
hedging on the sign and the fences. He said he didn't feel that the lights could
be confined just to this property, unless he didn't know his physics. He said he
would like a signed statement from Mr. Stephens that he would never expand this business.
Elaine Hartmann, 119 Craig Way N.E., asked what assurances we would have that !,4
Mr. Stephens would do what he had promised.
Chairman Harris said there were certain tools that the City had at their disposal '
� in issuing a Special Use Permit. There would be stipulations made that would be
�binding on the petitioner. Another tool would be a time limit on the Special Use
Permit, so that after a set period of time, it would be up for renewa]. A1' the
stipulations wauld be reviewed at the time of renewal to see that they. were being
met. Mr. Clark said that another requirement for a car lot was that there was a
yearly license required.
Mr. Haggerty said that the residents of this area had voiced concern about the
traffic problem caused by a new car dealership. He said he would like to read into
the record some statements made in a letter he had received from Mr. Stang who has
� A-1 Motor Sports at this same location. He �aid Mr. Stang had reviewed his sales
� slips from December 1, 1974 to February 28, 1975, a three month period, and they
numbered 668 actual purchases. There were 77 shopping days during this period which
made the average sales per day 86.7. He said Saturday's were slow, so this would
average.over 90 sales a day during the week. Even during a s1ow time of the year,,
Mr. Stang�said he had about 15 people a day who did not purchase anything, and that
in addition, as they carried so many different lines, they had about 4 peddlers a
day call at this operation. Mr. Stang continued in his letter, that they had training
classes for children, 5 sessions, 4 days a week, each week, on snowmobiles, 2 sessions
for 10 days on motorcycles. He said each class had between 50 to 75 children who
were delivered and picked up by their parents. Mr. Haggerty said the point he was
trying to make was that the car dealership expected about 50 contacts a day for
service and sales, which would be much less than the contacts that came to A-1 Motor
Sports, so you can't say that this use will increase the traffic, it could in fact
reduce the traffic.
Mr. Burkholder said he would have to see those figures for A-1 Motor Sports
certified before he would believe them. He said this site was on 1 i/2 acres. He
thought Mr. Clark should check the size of most other car dealerships, because he
didn't feel there was enough room on one lot for such a business. He still felt this
request should be categorically denied for this location.
Mr. Langenfeld asked Mr. Burkholder if he had made the statement that real
estate values would go down if a car dealership went in at this location? Mr.
Burkholder said he had. Mr. Langenfeld asked Mr. Burkholder if he had any proof of
^ �this and asked how the real estate values would change if this continued as a snowmobile
, and motorcycle dealership, or if it went to a car dealership? Mr. Burkholder said that
from his experience as a real estate broker, he believed that a car dealership would
lower the real estate values, not right away, but over a period of time, say 5 years.
Mr. Narris asked Mr. Clark if this area had been zoned C-2S since the Zoning
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Ordinance went into effect in 1956. Mr. Clark said this whole area was zoned C-2S
until the apartments were put in and that portion was rezoned since January 1956.
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Mr. Haggerty said he would like a motion made approving this Special Use P�rmit,
and if that motion was made, he would like the drawing 'presented at this meeting by
the petitioner to be marked "Exhibit 1". He thought this would facilitate making the
motion.
Mr. Jonak,,133 Craig Way N.E., asked who would police this operation to see that
thesti�pulations of the Special Use Permit were being followed. Mr. Harris said the
City staff polices it, and if we put a time schedule on the Special Use Permit, the
stipulations would be checked for compliance at the time of renewal. Mr. Jonak said
the problem with something like this, once the business was established, it would be
hard to get it removed because nobody wanted to rock the boat. The attitude seems
to be so they have a little trouble now and again, so what? He said he would like
to have Mr. Stephens make a statement that he would be agreeable or amena5le to any
legitimate complaint the neighbors might have on this operation, and would make an
effort within a reusonable time, say a month, to make corrections or alteration, to
eliminate the complaint. He said he wouldn't want to wait one or two years until
this Special Use Perr�it came up for renewal before any complaints were rectified.
Mr. Haggerty said that Mr. Stephens was always open to suggestions, but whether
we could commit ourselves to changes we are unaware of at this time, would be some
thing else, but he would ask Mr. Stephens to answer that question.
Mr. Stephens said he was aware of the problems that had been discussed at this
� and the previous meeting and he could assure the people that he would work closel;�
with the City and the City staff to get the job done right the first time. He said
they were very interested in getting along with the people in the area, and if they
have any objections when this business was in opertaion, he would like to know about
them. He said they wanted to join the community and be part of it. He said that
as this was not a specific probl•em, it was hard to know how to answer, but they wanted
to be a good neighbor and they would do their best to take care of any complaints on
. the operation.
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Mr. Janak said that no one knew what was going to happen. He, just wanted Mr.
Stephens assurance that he would try to make changes on any reasonatile request, within
a months time. Mr. Stephens said there was no question but that they would try to
comply within any reasonable request. .
Mr. Drigans asked how long the Datsun sign would be illuminated? Mr. Stephens
said they �vould turn that off when they turned off the display lights, so the latest
would be 9:00.
Mr. Clark said there was one other thing that hadn't been discussed at all and that
was a paging system, which can cause all kinds of problems. Mr. Stephens said they
have used a paging system, but they could try one out on this property, and see if it
was objectionable. He said they wouldn't put a speaker facing East River Road. Mr.
Clark said that as to the noise level standards, you could make a lot of noise if
it was just for a short period of time, without �iolating any codes. If we could
get some�agreement about these sounds not crossing the property.line, this could
eliminate this problem. Mr. Stephens said they would agree to that. Mr. Harris said
this could be one of the stipulations.
Mary Martin asked the petitioner to come and check the paging system and lights
�.rom her front yard after they were in operation. Then they would know what was
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objectionable or not. This would be a more realistic assessment she thought.
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Mr. Burkholder said that if this Special Use Permit was granted, that the test
driving of cars would not be confined to East River Road and they would be going
down the side streets, such as Alden Way, and other streets where people live on
that were present at this meeting. He felt this would be an additional hazard to
residents of the area.
Mr. Meissner asked Mr. Stephens if he had considered using a pocket system of
paging rather than a speaker system. Mr. Stephens said they would check into other
alternatives. He said he didn't think they were using a paging system where they were
now, and didn't know if they would have any paging system outside the building for
this operation.
Mr. Harris said that maybe one solution to the problem that Mr. Burkholder
mentioried of test driving of the cars on residential streets, would be to encourage
the road testing in the industrial area across the tracts, and then they wouldn't•
have to cross East River Road. Mr. Stephens said this would be the most logical area.
Mr. Drigans asked Mr. Stephens if he had any objection to the Special Use Permit
being granted to him and be non-transferable? Mr. Stephens said he thought this
was a difficult situation. He said not from his standpoint, but how long did any of
us know how long we were going to be here. When you have a company, that was a
corporation, if something happened ta him, we wouldn't have this permit. He said
that when the City has a license law that came up yearly, and a two year renewal on
� the Special Use Permit, he thought they would have all the teeth you would want on
this property. �
Mr. Burkholder asked Mr. Stephens why he had decided to locate• on this particular
.lot. Mr. Stephens said it was the size of the building, the size of the lot, it was
a pretty well traveled street, the land was adequate for their operation, besides the
building was already there, and it would cost a lot more to start with a vacant lot.
He said this property fit their needs right to a"T".
Mr. Haggerty said he would like to go through tite changes that have been made
and go through some of the things they thought should be st�pulations. Mr. Harris
said they could take that as a suggestion. Mr. Drigans said he was afraid the people
in the audience would think Mr. Haggerty was putting words� in their mouths. Mr.
Haggerty said that if one of the members of the Planning Commission would like to
make the motion with the stipulations, he would like ta reserve the right to comment
on the stipulations before the motion was voted upon, if this was permissible.
Mr. Meissner said he thought it mi�ht be worthwhile ta have Mr. Haggerty summarize
the things that Win Stephens had agreed to or the major pointsthat they say they
were going to do, as part of the Public He�ring.
Mr. Haggerty asked if they could have five minutes to go through these items,
to make sure they had them all.
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' Chairman Harris declared a five minute recess at 9:45 P.M.
RECONVENED:
Chairman Harris reconvened the Planning Cammission meeting at 10:00 P.M.
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Mr. Haggerty said that in summary of Win Stephens position in reference to
� this Special Use Permit, he would like the plan they presented at this meeting
marked as Exhibit 1. He would suggest that the layout and the lighting plan be made
part of the motion. The specific lights which we have already shown you, will be
1000 watt mercury lights, which will be approxima�ely 25 feet in height. The second
item was the fence. At the present time there was a fence around the entire area.
We would recommend that the fence on East River Road be moved back to the front
part of the warehouse section, as shown on Exhibit 1., and that this fence have
a checkerboard effect, and would run parallel to East River Road. Also, the present
fence that was on the back property line be left as an open chain link fence. Any
external sounds that may be objectionable to the people in the community will be
removed, and this would apply to a period of time. As far as the display signs, we
recommend that we be able to place a Win Stephens global sign with the Datsun sign
on the face portion of the warehouse building, and that an.y sign would meet the
requirements of the sign ordinance, plus we would be al,low�d,ta.xemove the sign firom
the north4vest corner of the premises, and the sign on the corner ot tast River Road
and 77th Way be allowed to remain. We also renuest that stipulations 1 and 2 of the
Environmental Qualiiy Commission meeting of April 15th remain as stipulations. This
was in reference to noise and light levels. He said that.in regard to drainage,
lighting, building standards, or any thing like that, they were willing to meet all
the code requirements. He said this summarizes their position and his recommendation
was that a motion be made for approval.
Mr. Meissner said that on this Exhibit 1, you intenda to use this layout for
your landscaping an improvements as shown on the plan. Mr. Haggerty said they did.
� Mr. Clark said that when they were discussing the Datsun sign they said the letters
would be six feet high. Mr. Stephens said he thought this size ��as too large to meet
the code requirements, and they would conform to the sign ordinance, regardless of
what size those requirements were.
Mary Martin said she would like to have it stipulated that there be no parki.ng
or road testing on residential streets, and also, the people in the area wo�ld like
to be notified when the Special Use Permit came up for renewal.
MOTIQN by Drigans, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission close the
Public Hearing on the request for a 5pecial Use Permit, SP #75-02, by Wyman 5mith,
Attorney for W. R. Stephens, Jr. Upon a voice.vote,.all voting aye, Ghairman Harris
closed the Public Hearinq at 10:25 P.l�.
N(r. Langenfeld said he just wanted to make reference to the April 9th minutes
and this would be based on the very essense of a Special Use Permit, and that was that
the City should deem a requisite of considering the effect of such a Special Use
Permit on the general welfare, public health and safety. He said he was sure these
would be taken into consideration along with the stipulations.
Mr. Meissner said we have three stipulations from the Building Standards Sub-
committee. Two of them were on landscaping and one was on the lights. He asked if
those had been adequately handled in the stipulations by the developer, or do you
want additional stipulations? Mr. Lindblad said he thought all the questions had
^ been answered in a satifactory manner. He said that this had been discussed quite
� extensively at the Quilding Standards meeting with the petitioner, and that Exhibit 1
was basically what they had suggested. He said it was left open for Planning Commission
approval and he thought most of the members approved of the presentation. Mr. Lindblad
said the 4th stipulation was only a recommendation because this was governed by the
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sign ordinance. Ne said we had suggested a pylon� sign, but he had no objection
1'�'�, to the placement.of the sign as presented at this meeting.
Mr. Drigans said he thought there were enough pylon signs in the City already.
Mr. Lindblad said that on the fence that ran parallel to East River Road, he
had expected a different pattern than what was presented, but he had no objection
to the checkerboard effect that Mr. Stephens had described. Mr. Haggerty said the
material they would be using on this face was very durable and for security reasons,
he thought this was the best treatment for this fence. Mr. Harris said he was familiar
with this material and it was very durable.
Mr. Drigans asked about the slatting of the chain link fence. Mr. Lindblad
said he personally wasn't in favor of slatting a fence. They look nice when it was
first done, but in a short time they got to be a maintenance problem. He said he
would rather see a chain lihk fence that was kept in good repair and weed�free. Mr.
Drigans said there was a problem in cutting the concrete s1ab. and he asked the reason
why the Building Standards Subcommittee wanted this done. Mr. Lindblad said there had
been a 1ot of discussion of this at their meeting also. It was left open that if they
co�ld come up with a plan that wouldn't necessitate tearing up all the concrete, that
would be decorative, the Subcommittee would go along with that. He said he thought
the redwood planters would break up'this area and he thought that was also a satifactory
solution. He said you really couldn't expect them to tear out all that concrete just
so it could have a certain design.
� Mr. Drigans said that on the fourth stipulati�on by the Environmental Quality
Commission on denying access to East River Road, he thought that as the lot to the
North has to share access with this lot, he saw no reason to deny this property access
to East.River Road. He asked Mr. Langenfeld about the 5th stipulation about eliminating
the pole sign. He asked if they were talking about a pylon sign��or the two ex�sting
signs? Mr. Langenfeld said they had assumed the pole sign would be erec�ed, and this
they did not want.
Mr. Drigans said he was in favor of granting this Special Use Permit with ce'r,tain
stipulations. -
Mr. Langenfeld said that he was sure that with all the citizen input and the
businessmen involved, that the people were aware that some decisions could be pretty
difficult. He said he was just as concerned as the citizens, but he would like to
point out that if this Special Use Permit was denied, and even if we went so far as
to even think about rezoning this property, we would then enter into what he would
call a'down zoning situation' which would be very costly to the citizens as well
as to the individual who owns this property. He feels the citizens would have more
inconveniences than what now presently exist.
Mr. Meissner said that if this Special Use Permit was recommended for appraval
by the City Council, there had been concern as to how the stipulations would be
enforced. He said 'the responsibility for the enforcements of these stipulations
would rest largely with the peopie who are affected by this request. He said the
^ City Council would be putting on the stipulations, and the City staff would be
�, enforcing them as far as supervising the construction and seeing that the stipulations
were carried out during construction. At the time that the special use is review�d,
in a year or two, or at the time of the yearly license renewal, that was the time for
the citizens to come in and state the problems they have had with this business. You
would have a very valid point at that time, if the stipulations aren't carried out.
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He told the people not to lose their perspective as to how they could take care
T""� of some of the problems. Ne said he was sure that Mr. Stephens was a man of integrity
and honor and would live up to what he says about trying to take care of citizen
complaints. He said he wasn't trying to imp1y anything else, but the people would
still have power in seeing that the stipulations were being carried out.
Mr. Drigans said this property was zoned properl;y. The Specia� Use Permit
required was just a tool the City uses to control certain uses within this zone.
Mr. Meissner said a Special Use Permit would be required in any zone of the City for
this use.
Mr. Jonak asked if it could be a stipulation that all the test driving be done
in an industrial area. He felt this could be done if a salesman was with the person
trying out the car. Mr. Stephens said it was their policy to usually have a sal.esman
accompany a prospective buyer.
Mr. Meissner said that once someone was o�•t on a public street, no one can rEally
force you to go any place except down a public street. The salesman can ask them to
go a certain way, but if the driver of the car says he wants to go a different way,
there wouldn't be anything anyone could do. You can't k�ep people off the public
streets. He said he didn't think they could enforce the provision that all road
testing be done in industrial areas. We could ask that it be encouraged. Mr. Narris
said we could ask Mr. Stephens to encourage his salesman to use the industrial area.
There are different degrees of encouragement.
� MOTION by Meissner, seconded by Driga�s, that the PZanning Comraission recommend
to Council approval of the request for a Special Use Permit, SP #75-02, by Ayman Smith,
Attorney for W. R. Stephens, Jr., to permit the sale of new and Used cars, per Frid_Zey
City Code, Section 205.101, 3, B, and 3, G, in a C-2S zone (general shopping areas) to
•be located on Lot 1, BZock 1, Pearson's Second Addition, the same being 7701 East
River Road, subject to the following stipulations:
1. That Exhibit 1 be included as part of the record.
2. That the lighting wouZd consist primariZy of bulbs having 1000 watts
on poles �5 feet high as shown on the plan, and that said lighting to be
reduced to not exceed that produce.d by a standard 250 watt mercur� vapor 1amp,
located I00 feet from such a residen�ial property after 9:00 P.M.
3. Fences be in accordance with Exhibit 1.
4. Noise Ievels must meet the standards set down in zoning ordinance 205.112,
and further, that tl�ere not be any sounds that are objectionable to the
community.
5. The Datsun siqn be mounted on the face of the warehouse portion of the
building and not be mounted on a po1e.
6. That the sign on the south side of the building be retained and the sign on
^ the north side of the buildinq be removed.
7. That the entrances remain as shown on Exhibit 1.
8. That this Special Use Permit be renewable in two years.
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9. That this Special Use Permit be non-tr�nsferable and not transfe�red to
� another owner without another application being made for a Special Use
Permit and another Public Hearing being he1d.
10. No Parking be allowed on residential streets in the immediate neighborhood
for business purposes.
11. The test driving be encouraged by W. R. Stephens salesmen to be done in the
industrial area and not in the r.esidential area.
12, A1l City Code requirements be met.
13. That the number of stalls on this property be Iimited to 90 parking stalls.
Mr. Clark said they had discussed the public address system, and this was
probably covered in the 4th stipulation on no objectionable noise. Mr. Meissner
said he hesitated in specifically setting publ:c address standards, and said that•
personally he would like to see them use a pocket paging system or some non=loud
speaker type system. ��r. Clark said the other point brought out at the meeting was
that this business not be expanded.
Chairman Harris said the Public Hearingdw�o be�heardbunowethatlaheesaipulations
a little because there were people who wante
had been made.
� Mary Martin asked if the people in the area could be notified when this came up
for renewal. h1r. Drigans said that this was not done, because the City didn't have
the staff to notify everyone of these renewals. He said there were many Special Use
Permits that were subject to renewal, and theY;all came up at different times.. Mr.
' Clark said this was usually done by the City Council, and th�re would not be a hearing
by the Council or the Planning Commission. Mr. Meissner said that speaking realistically
after this has come up for renewal a couple of times, how many problems can be left.
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Mr Clark said the first renewal
renewal date would be five years after
was up to the Council.
date would be two years, and maybe the second
the first one, you never know, because this
Mary Martin said that Mr. Meissner had mentioned that the people in the area
had policing power and she wondered if the City would help them in this. Mr. Meissner
said the way to do �his was to write a letter to the C�ity, and this would be put in
the Special Use file, and then this would be �rought up to the City Council when this
permit came up for renewal.
Mary Mar.tin said that if there was a written agreement between Mr. Stephens
and the City on this Special Use Permit, would the citizens in the area be able to
get a copy of this agreement. Mr. Harris said they cauld as this would be a public
document.
Mr. Stephens askedvhen this Special Use Permit would be renewable, bearing in
mind that it would be 90 days or more before they would be in operation. Mr. Clark
said they like to have these Special Use Permits come up for renewal during the
growing season so that the landscaping and maintenance could be checked at that time.
He said that usually an actual date was set, but it usual�ydidn't coincide with approval
by the Planning Commission or Council, because this could lead to confusion as to the
actual date it needed to be renewed.
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Mr. Burkholder said that in the discussion at the last meeting, Mr. Clark
� stated that Mr. Stephens could use the lot to the north for employee and customer
parking without obtaining a Special Use Permit, because this was an allowed use in
a C-ZS zone. Mr. Harris said he could not store or sell new or used cars on this lot
without ano�her application for a Special Use Permit for this lot. Mr. Harris said
he didn't know the asking price for Lot 2, but he would think it would be a ti.ttle too
expensive to use it for an employee and customer parking lot. It would be a matter of
economics. Mr. Burkholder said if he went strictly by the code though, Mr. Stephens
could lease this property for that use. Mr. Harris said it would have to go to
Building Standards and ultimately to the Council if he was going to use the north lot
as a parking lot as stated.
Mr. Burkholder asked if there would be notification of this request. Mr. Clark
said that if it didn`t require a Special Use Permit or rezoning there wouTdn't be
any notification. �
Mr. Meissner asked if this wouldn't be regarded as an expansion of an cxisting
business and be required to have a Special Use Permit? h1r. Clark said he couldn't
answer that. He said that he didn't know if it would be enforceable, but if you
want to add a stipulation that ihis business couldn'� be expanded without additional
Public Hearings so that at least the City Council would be aware of it, and if they
wanted to put it in the agreement with Mr. Stephens; that would be their decision.
MOTION by Meissner, seconded by Lindblad, to amend the motion with the following
additionaZ stipulation: •
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14. To require that additional Public Hearings be held should any attempt be
made to expand this business by the purchase of additional property or in
� some other manner.
UPON a voice vote on the amendment to the motion, Me�ssner, Drigans, Lindblad,
voting aye, Harris abstaining, the motion carried.
Upon a voice vote on the motion, Meissner, Drigans, LindbZad, voting aye, Chairman
Harris abstaining, the motion carried. '
Mary Martin said she wished to commend the Planning Commission on the very
open way this Public Hearing had been conducted, and tnat everyone wa�s g-iven the
opportunity to speak. Mr. Burkholder said he would second that.
Chairma��Harris thanked them on behalf of the Planning Commission for their
kind words.
3. CONTINUED• VACATION REQUEST, SAV #75-01, NORTH SUBURBAN HOSPITAL DISTRICT:
To vacate all that part of 76th Avenue N.E. located in Osborne Manor 2nd Addition,
lying East of the East line.of 5th Street N.E., to. be used for parking and planning
purposes.
Mr. Carl Gabriel of 401 76th Avenue N.E. was present.
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Mr. Clark said that 76th Avenue east of 5th street was presently un�mproved. The
North Suburban Hospital District owns all the property north ar;d south of this street
except the corner lot at5th street and 76th Avenue. At our last meeting it was brought
to our attention that although this was not a Public -Hearing, the Planning Commission
felt that notification should be mad`e to that particular owner, arid Mr. Gabriel was
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/"'`4 pres'ent so perhaps he would have some comments to make both pro and con on this
vacation request.
Mr. Clark said that if this street was vacated, it would go back to the present
property owners as this street was all dedicated from Osborne Manor 2nd Addition, so
it would all revert to the north. He said the City would want to retain all or part
of the street right of way for a water and sewer main that goes down about the center
line of this unimproved street, for utility purposes.
Mr. Clark said there were a couple of other questions that the Planning Commission
had and one of them was on the 7 year lease for the park property. He said this was
discussed between the Hospital Board and the City Council, and bo�� parties had signed
the agreement, so this had to be agreeable to both parties.
He said the ownership of the small Qutlot next to the park property was one year
away from going tax forfeit. He said the ass�•>sor's office had been notified tha�
they wanted to know when this happened so the City would have a chance to acquire it.
Mr. Harris asked Mr. Gabriel if he had any comments. Mr. Gabriel asked what
the additional 50 feet that would be added to his present lot would do to his taxes?
Mr. Clark said he couldn't really answer that question, but he thought the assessing
department based most of the value on the structure on a property, and this would
still be considere� as one building site. He said that whether a lot was 80 foot,
85 foot, or 90 foot, you wouldn't see a great deal of difference in taxes if the
�,., value of the structure was the same, but he didn't know what an additional 50 feet
would do to the value. He said this would have to be answered by the City Assessor.
Mr. Clark said there would be some restrictions on this 50 feet, and that obviously
you could not build a permanent structure on this 50 feet because of the utility
� easement that would have to be retained. Ne said that aside from the yearly tax,
if improvements were made to 5th Street, which was assessed by the front footage
of a property, that would be when you would appreciate the biggest increase in his
taxes. He said that after 76th Avenue �vas vacated, and the City decided to put a
curb across this 50 feet, who would stand the cost of that? He said he thought the
Council should answer this question so that Mr. Gabriel knew whether or not he was
going to be burdened with this assessment or whether he was not going to be burdened.
P1r. Gabriel asked what the City was going to do with 76th Avenue?
Mr. Clark said that if it was vacated, the City would no longer have jurisdic�ion
over it.
Mr. Gabriel asked who would own this property? Mr. Clark said that Mr. Gabriel
would own the 50 feet adjacent to his lot, and the balance would be owned by the
Hospital District. Mr. Gabriel asked if there would ever be a cul-de-sac there.
Mr. Clark said that one of the stipulations when the Hospital Board wanted to put
in the medical building was that 76th Avenue never be used for an access to this
property, so the hospital wouldn't be putting a road in. �
^Mr. Clark said the Hospital Board has no plans for this property now.. They did
, make the statement that the medical field was changing so fast, they didn't ��now what
their needs would be in the future.
Mr. Gabriel asked that if the Hospital Board put a parking lot in this area,
how close would it come to his property? Mr. Clark said they had to be 100 feet
away from 5th Street. This was as close as they could come with the stipulations
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that were put on the Special Use Permit for the medical building. They would
�, have to stay 20 feet from the south line of 76th Avenue and 150 feet east of the
east line of 5th Street. Mr. Clark said that if the Hospital Board did decide to
make this area into a parking lot, they could go on the north side of 76th Avenue
also. Mr. Gabriel said the 150 foot restriction could still bring the parking
lot right up to his property line.
Mr. Gabriel asked what choice he had in accepting this 50 feet. Mr. Clark
said the 50 feet would be Mr. Gabriel's to control. He said the Hospital Board
may be interested in buying it, or you could deed it to them if.you so desired.
Mr. Gabriel said he couldn't understand why this property should come to him. Mr.
Clark said this was because the property was originally dedicated from Osborne
Manor 2nd Addition, so the property had to go back to that plat.
Mr. Drigans asked Mr. Clark if you didn't have to have an agreement from all
adjacent property owners before you could vacate a street? Mr. Clark said this
was not a code requirement, but in practice we would like to have agreement. Mr.
Drigans said that it seems that in this instance that there were two parties involved,
and one �ants the vacation and the other doesn't. Mr. Clark said that was the purpose
of the Public Hearing before the City Council so that everyone who was affected by
a vacation request could be heard.
Mr. Gabriel said his main concern now was the additional taxes and that this
street was undeveloped and had a lot of blown down trees on it. He said there hadn't
been a clean up of this property for quite a while. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Gabriel
if he used any part of 76th Avenue for access to his property. Mr. Gabriel said
r"'� his house faced 76th Avenue but his garage•faced 5th Street so he had access from
5th Street. He said he would be in favor of having this area cleaned up and sadded.
Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark if there was any reason why the City was maintaining
the sewer and water service on 76th Avenue. Mr. Clark said it did service the hospital
and the medical office building. Mr. Harris said that as long as they were in use,
they would have to retain an easement for this utilities.
Mr.- Meissner said they had a lot of these same questions on the Plats & Subdivisions
Streets & Utilities Subcommittee wher� they had vacated quite a few streets. He
said �hat generally taxes, per se, were not radically affected, because as Mr. Clark
stated, most of the value for the property was.placed on the structure. He said any
street improvements or storm sewer assessments that are based on front footage of the
property was where the impact of higher taxes would come in. He said that Mr. Gabriel
would have to discuss this with the City Assessor. He�said the land would not be
fixed up or improved in any way by the City when it was handed back to the property
owner. When the land was given back after the street was vacated, it then becomes
the property owners land to clean up and develop, or whatever they desire to do.
As for the potential curb across 76th Avenue, the Planning Commission could stipulate
that the City pick up this cost, if they so desire. He said Mr. Gabriel's option was
to split off that 50 feet and sell it to the Nospital District, or deed it to them, if
that was the way to get rid of it. Mr. Clark said he didn't think he would have to
get a lot split. Ne thought if Mr. Gabriel just called the Hospital Board and discussed
this with John Haines after he had made up his mind what he wanted to do with the
^ vacated street, and the Hospital Board might be interested in accepting this as part
� of their property. Mr. Clark said the comment made by Mr. Meissner that the City might
be willing to pick up the cost for extending the curbing on 5th Street, he didn't know
if the City would want to absor6 this cost. He said the Hospital Board was in the
process of putting in a new parking iot and curbs, and they might be willing to �dd
this curb to their construction in consideration of the vacation request.
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Mr. Narris asked Mr.Wasnrteo 1osed,wbutlhefwould likeetoachecknonrtheptaxd to
Zt. Mr. Gabriel sa�d he pp
situation. �
Mr. Drigans said he could deed this to the Hospital Board and avoid a tax
increase.
Mr. Gabriel said he would like to see something done if this street was
vacated. He said it was just a pile of sand. Mr. Clark said he didn't think it
would be out of line to make it a stipulation for the Hospital Board to add top
soil and seed this area. He said that if Mr. Gabriel kept the 50 feet, this would
apply to him also. He said that if Mr. Gabriel sold this property to the Hospital
Board or deeded it to �hem, he could stipulate that they put top soil and seed all
of vacated 76th Avenue.
Mr. Clark said that Mr.
this meeting and the Public
decision before :�at time.
Gabriel should check with';the City tax assessor between
Hearing by the City Council, so he could come to some
MOTION by Meissner, seconded by Lindblad, that the Planning Commission recommend
to Council approval of the request for a v�cation, SAV #75-01, by North Suburban
Hospital District, to vacate a11 that part of 76th Avenue N.E. Iocated in Osborne
Manor 2nd Addition, lying East of the East line of 5th Street N.E. to be used for
parking and planning purposes with the following stipulations:
1. The North Suburban Hospital District bear the cosr of the completion of
the curb alongSth Street N.F.
2. The vac�ted.roadway be improved with top soil and seeded to provide ground
caver.
�Mr. Clark said that reta�ning of the utility easement should have been included
as a stipulation.
MOTION b� Meissner, seconded by Dr�.gans, to amend the motion with the additional
stipulatian that the City retain a!util�tyeasement on the entire street right o� way.
Upon a voice vote, the amendment to the motion carried unanimously.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, all vo�ing aye, the motion carried unanimously.
4. CONTINUED: REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT, L.S. #71-08, BY CLIFFORD J. THOE: To split
off the Westerly 70 feet of the Southerly 123feet of Lot 18, Block 2, Central
View Manor, except that part taken for roadway purposes, to split the residence
from the service station property, the same being 7420 Central Avenue N.E.
Mr. Clifford Thoe and Mr. Charles Jordon were present.
Mr. Clark said this was discussed back in 1971 and 1972. He said there had
been discussion on this by our City Attorney, Plats & Subs., and the Planning
Cominission, about if this lot was split�off, what the disposition would be of the
prope�rty if it were ever sold. At th�t time, the Planning Commission wished to have
a stipulation placed on the lot split that the lot could never be sold to anyone
exce�t the owner of the commercial property from which this lot split was being taken.
At that time, Mr. Thoe felt he could not abide by this stipulation because it would
only give him one buyer for the property, and if the service station owner only
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wanted to give him say $2,000 for this property, he couldn't go elsewhere to sell
his property so he wouldn't have any bargaining power, so h�.withdrew his request.
He said this was what Mr. Thoe would like to discuss with the Planning Commisson
at this time, to see if they could come up with an alternate solution.
Mr. Thoe said that this stipulation left him without any bargai_ni_�g power at
all. Ife said he had been asked to have the property surveyed and this he had done.
��r. Thde "saidthat he had been to the Board of Appeals for a variance on the setback
lines on this property before he had the survey done. Mr. Thoe said that one of the
objections to this lot split was that he would need a sewer and water easement on this
property. He said he was connected to the sewer on Central Avenue and he got his water
through the service station. He said he would p.robably need an easement for the water.
Mr. Clark said this water would have to come from 73 1/2 or Central Avenue, because
there was no water on 73rd. Mr. Thoe said they had taken 33 feet of his property
for 73rd Avenue, so the residential part of this property was 70 x 90 feet. Mr.
Clark sai�d this only made about 6300 square feet, and our minimum residential lot size
was 9,000. Mr. Clark said this house was on commercial property so at pres-,it it was
a legal non-conforming use. He said that what Mr. Thoe was worried about was that if
at some time he wished to sell this property, he couldn't sell it to anyone except the
service station owner, and the service station owner knows he has to sell to him, so
he would have no bargaining power. He would have to accept less for this house than
if it was placed samewhere else. The problem he sees was that he could not go some-
where else and buy this same type house and garage for 'the money he would realize from
the sale of this property. If he could offer this house to more than one buyer, he
could get considerably more for his property. This was why he didn't want to be tied
to this stipulation. �
Mr. Lindblad said that as this property falls into a legal non-conforming use,
it would be governed by the regulation that if it were more than 50/ damaged by �
fire, wind, etc., it could not be rebuilt. Mr. Clark said it could not be rebuilt as
a house. Mr. Clark said that another concern they had when this was first considered
was that we would be creating a 6300 square foot parcel in a commercial area. If this
does not meet the code as a residential lot, it certainly wouldn't meet �he code for
a commercial lot. We were trying to look into the future and not have one piece of
commercial property under two ownerships. He said Mr. Tnoe would like to see that
too, but financially he didn't think he could afford it.
Mr. Harris said this was still one piece of commercial property then, it hasn°t
been split. Mr. Clark said it hadn't.
Mr. Meissner said he was a member of the Plats & Sub. Subcommittee when this
first came up for discussion. He asked if there was any �hing that had changed since
�this was discussed a few years ago? Mr. Clark said no, but that now Mr. Thoe knows
� where the sewer service was, and it wasn't on the parcel of ground he wanted to split
off. He said the drawing that Mr. Thoe had provided at that time had proved quite
� accurate when you compare it to the verification survey he had just obtained. He
said Mr. Thoe had indicated that the garage for the hause and the service station
were 4 feet apart, and they are actually 4.6 feet apart.
^� � Mr. Meissner asked who owned the property directly to the west. Mr. Thoe said
it was John Haluptzok. Mr. Meissner said he had looked at this property, and �y the
appearance of the fence, it would give theimpression that you own that property also.
Mr. Thoe said that Mr. Haluptzok liked the fence Mr. Thoe put up, so he put one up
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Planning Commission Meeting - April 23, -
Mr. Lindblad asked what would happen as far as insurance if this house was
damaqed more than 50/ of its value, but was not a•total loss, and it could not be
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Planning Commission Meeting - April 23, 1975 � Page 18
Mr. Harris said that according
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would be quite close.
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to the survey; th� service station would be
property he wants to split off. He thought this
Mr. Clark said he could appreciate Mr. Thoe's problem, but he felt that the
City had to be protected also in not letting this problem exist for a long period
of time and let it continually change hands.
Mr. Meissner asked that if this property were split off, would the remaining
service station meet the code requirements. Mr. Ciark said it would, but they had
requested the variances for the service station because they wanted to make some
changes. He said this was what brought this lot split back for reconsideration.
'. Mr. Harris asked how long the service station had been in exister�ce? Mr. Thoe
said tne-�house and service station were built by the same person in 1949.
Mr. Harris asked Mr. Clark if the City st-ff had any recommendation on this . i
reques�. Mr. Clark said they didn't. The solution to the problem would be if
the en�tire property could be under one ownership. Mr. Jordon said he was not financia�iy�,
able to purr,hase both the service station and the house. Mr. Thoe said that if he
could, he could make arrangements to rent the house. ,
Mr. Clark said that as long as the house was in existence, it did make the
cost prohibitive for the service station owner to purchase this part of the property.
He said if this were vacant land, the cost would be more in line.
Mr. Thoe said the reason this parcel that he wanted to split off was so small
was because the City took 33 feet of this property for 73rd Avenue.
Mr. Meissner said that at the time of the ori�inal request the possib�l7�y
of granting the lot split with an agreement that the only person the petitioner could
sell that lot to would be the service statian owner was not acceptable to Mr. Thoe.
He asked Mr. Thoe if this was still unacceptable to him. Mr. Thoe said it was, �nd
he hoped the Planning Commission could come up with an alternative.
Mr. Thoe said he had a letter from the City saying that some other property
had been handled that same way; he thought it was Noliday. Mr. Clark said he
didn't have a copy of that agreement at this meeting, and wasn't sure what property
the agreement covered because Hol�day had property scattered all over. He said he
didn't think there were lot splits involved for Holiday�. This had been a rezoning
request, unless this was covered in the agreement for rezoning.
Mr. Harris asked what would happen if this part of the property was split off,
and at some future date the house was demolished. Would the City then be in the
position of having to issue a building permit for this property for a commercial
endeavor? Mr. Meissner said this would be a su.bstandard lot with no previous legal
non-conforming use as commercial property, so what could you do with it?
Mr. Harris said that there c�uld probably be a covenant with Mr. Thoe that
in the eventuality that the house was destroyed that the owner of that property
would never request a permit to rebuild a house or a permit for a commercial endeavor
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THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF APRIL 29, 1975 ��
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Drigans at 7:33 P.M.
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MEMBERS PRESENT: Drigans, Plemel, Wahlberg
MEMBERS ABSENT: Crowder, Gabel
OTHERS PRESENT: Howard Mattson, Engineering Aide
MOTION by Plemel, seeonded by Wahlberg, to approve the minutes of the
April 15, 1975 meeting as written. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays,
the motion carried unanimously.
Chairman Drigans read to the Board the memorandum from the Public Works
Director to the City Attorney that requested the legal opinion asked for by
the Board in their minutes of April 15, 1975.
MOTION by Wahlberg, seconded by Plemel, to receive the memorandum from the
Public Works Director to the City Attorney dated April 21, 1975. Upon a voice
vote, there being no nays, the motion carried.
Chairman Drigans then read to the Board, the memorandum from the City Att�rney
to the Public Works Director in answer to the above memorandum.
MOTION by Wahlberg, seconded by Plemel, to receive the memorandum from the City
Attorney to the Public Works Director in regard to the interpretation of the
Code that was requested by the Board. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays,
the motion carried.
Mrs. Wahlberg noted that she had also requested a report on the action taken
� by the City on non-conforming uses in the past. • She said that possibly this
report just wasn't ready yet.
1. A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF SECTION 205.153, 1B, FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO REDUCE
THE REQUIRED LOT AREA, FOR A LOT RECORDED BEFORE DECF1`4BER 29, 1955, FROM 7500
�UARE FEET TO 5500 SQUARE FEET, TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A DL4ELLING TO
BE LOCATED ON LOTS 53 AND 54, BLOCK I, RIVERVIEW HEIGHTS, THE SAME BEING 528
GLENCOE STREET N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA. (REQUEST BY TRI-CO BUILDERS, TNC.,
7555 VA13 BUREN STREET N.E., MINNEAPOLIS, MN.)
MOTION by Wahlberg, seconded by Plemel, to open the public hearing. Upon a
voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried.
Mr. Jim George was present to present his request. A survey of the lots and
the house plan proposed were shown to the Board.
Chairma.n Drigans asked if they had built this house on other lots in the area.
Mr. George said they have not built this identical plan before, but they have
built houses on 6 other sites in this area. Mrs. Wahlbe�`g asked how recently
the other houses were constructed. Mr. George said they were built in 1970
and 1971. Iie added that they had built on building sites that were the same
size as this, and that also had no available land to either side, and the
City Engineer had allowed them to build without coming before the Board so
this procedure was new to him.
� Mrs. Wahlberg asked if there was a hous� on the property to the west of these
lots. Mr. George said there was an older house on those lots. Mr. Mattson
stated that there were two newer homes to the east of these lots and the one
older house to the west with three newer houses further west. Mrs. Wahlberg
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The Plinutes of the Board of A�peals Subcommittee Meeting of April 29, 1975 _ �1
asked if there are people living in all the new houses. Mr. George said he
wasn't sure if they were all sold yet or not.
� Mr. George stated they do own one other building site in the area, but not
in the flood plain, that they will also have to get a lot area variance on.
Chairman Drigans asked what type of house they are proposing. Mr. George
explained that it will be a 24 foot by 40 foot split entry dwelling that will
have a deck running partially on two sides of the upper level. He said this
deck will give the dwelling more appeal. He said the lot being the way it is, it
is virtually impossible to build an attached garage but a garage could be built
in the back yard. Mrs. Wahlberg asked if a garage is proposed. Mr. George
said they will not be building a garage because of construction costs the way
they are. He said they felt this dwelling could be bought by a younger couple,
who could not afford both a house arid garage, and possibly they would be able
to build a garage later according to their financeso Mrs. Wahlberg said that
the survey shows a hard surface driveway, and she asked if this was going to be
installed. Mr. George said they thought they had to install it per the Code,
but after talk;ng with the.Building Inspector, they found out they would only
have to instali a gravel or similar type drive. He said they will install the
hard surface drive as that is how they submitted it to F.H.Ao
MOTION by Plemel, seconded by Wahlberg, to close the public hearinga Upon a
voice vote, there being no nays, the motion carried. .
Chairman Drigans said that it has been more or less a rule to grant variances
on undersized landlocked lots. He said the Board has given their approval on
several of these lots so the Board has been consistant. Mro Mattson added that
� lot area variances were granted on Lots 45 & 46, Lots 47 & 48, and Lots 49 & 50,
all in Block I, in April of 1974, and on Lots 55 & 56, Block I, Lots 13 & 14,and
Lots 15 & 16, Block H, in February of 19730
Mr. Plemel added that this structure will be an improvement to the areao
.
Mrs. Wahlberg said in view of the fact that there are no other variances needed
as the house fits on the lot within the Code, and because it will improve the
area, she had no objections.
MOTION by Wahlberg, seconded by Plemel, to recommend to the City Council,
approval of the variance for a reduction in the lot sizeo Upon a voice vote,
there being no nays, the motion carried.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned by Chairman Drigans at 8:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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MARY HINTZ
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TI-XxS 11GR1:GMENT� made atid executed i:his _/;� V� day af
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Septern�,�r, 19b6b by and between i,YNDAL� '.C1:FtMI�]AL COo, a Minnesot:a
cornor�tion, hereinafter called the property ownery, and the CITY
QI� 1�I:ID.Li:Y, a municipal corporation o� �Lhe 5tate of Idinn�sota,
hereana:ctez callea the city;
�9FIBRLI3SP tiie property owners have petitioned the city to
rezone the �o1:Lot•�:inq proper_ty :Lrom the pr,�=���''R-� (s�ngl�-fa:ni�.y
dwel:Ling) class:i�ica�ion i:o C-2 (c,eneral busin�ss and sho�piny
cerite.r) :
. • Lots 1, 2, 6e 7e t3e 9g 10, ]�1 and 7.2 in Block ?, and
I,ats ?Q F3, 9a 10Q 11g 12, 1.3d 14 and �.5 :in B1.ock £3,
City Vi�'�a Add,ition to the City ot Fridley, a11 lying
, in thc Northwest Qua�ter (I�r�7;) of S-23o R--24s T°3ne '
� County of AnokaB Si:ate o.f f2innesotao
�� F9Hi;2EAS, the city council. iinds that the rezoninc� o� said
ar�a to a corcunercial use district w�.�l be in the pubXa.c intex�ste
wel�areg and conv�nience ta the peaple of the City o� �ri.dley
pravi�c-c� certa;n xe:�i��-:iations on t%ze type o� uses are �laced on
saa.d pzotierty and Urov�deda :�u.ri�hers that the owners agree to l�y
outd devctop and maintain said property accorciing to star�dards
agreed to in advaz�ce by tne parties h�retoo
^ Considexat:ion for this �.greement sha.11 be the xezoning o:�
Lhe prop�rty descr. a.bed above �x�m K-.l to a C-?. tise ciistrict and
the mutual ben�t.�LS to eacti o� �he �arties hereto� �i'he parti,es�
. � thea.x� successors arzd assigns do lzerehy covenant and agre� as
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` The propLr.ty owr�ers ac�ree ta restri.ct the use o� sazd PYoo-
erty to those use.s permz�ied iiz Scction �-50].2 0� the Fridl�y Ca.ty
Code and �ux�ther ag.ree to z�stra.ct said us�s by agree:ing tnat the
�'ollowing uses pexmitted �.n sai.d Section 45012 tai�l not be pea-�-
mitted on the al�ove described p.rotx-ri:y:
1. �.etail stoxes and shops such as gzocexyo frua.t,
meat, veg�iab].ese cabz.net m��Jccrs, elec�ra.cians, pai.r.ters�
nxumbczse shoemakezs, clothas �ressers (but not a�n--
cluda.ng c�ry cleana.ng establishments) , j ob Printers,
b�ue printcrso
2o Aui�omobile di:�play and sa].es roomso gasola.ne
scrvice stations and used car lots,
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3. Self-sexvice drive-iu cafe5 ar oi:liex drive-in,�ood
cstaUlislimc;nts. � �
�, Raclio (/�.M or FM) or tclevis�an UroadcasCing stations
and traixsrnit:ters and micro-wave relay structures.
5, 73alcc�-ics, cancly xnal:ing.
6. I3ars, taverns.
7. Coinmercial recreatioii uses.
$, Engraviiig, photoen�;raving, .lithographing and puUlisliiiig
plants. .
�j. IIousehold ec�uipment repair shops.
` 10. Loft builclings.
11. Mortuaries.
12. Music conservltories, danci.ng studios.
13. Major xepair of automobile s and storage gara ;e s.
I4. Tl�eat�es, .lodges, assennbly halls, auditori.ums.
15. Tire repair shops using any vulcanizing or re-ireading
process. , -
16. Vocationai txad'e schools.
]7, Warehouses.
II.
No entxances io or e�;.its from the aforement:ioned property shaJ.l
Ue perznitted on 57th Place.
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ProZ�erty owners further a�ree Lhat the" development of said pro-
pezty including pl.ans foz landscapin�, l�u.ilding design and mateiial, set-
bacl:s, off-street parl�iii�, and screenin; for extexior. storage sliall bc
suUject Lo t:lxc a��proval of Llie City Council at the time a building perynit is
rcquested.
IV.
To use tl�e aforcnaentioned propert}• £�x ttiose purposes permitLed
within Section 45. 12 a! the 1� riclley City Codc as axnended ancl restricted by
this agxceinent, propert•y owi►crs sliall not occu��y said propc:ity or buildings
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until receipi: �f a cer�ificate oi �ccupancy which s`hali Ue issurd only upon
compliaiice with t]ic ]�:ridley City Or.dinancc:� and the Cerms oi this a6rce-
ment. It is agr.eed Uy the parties th�it said certificate of occupancy shaIl be
canccllecl if tlie owners or their succc.ssors in ti.tic permit any use of the
propert�* contrary to this agree.ment.
Yt is xx�uLuall�� abreed tl�at: tlie provisions of tl�is a�reeinent s]iall be
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binding upon and cnfarcibJ.e ag11nst tl�e Patties hereto, their successors ana
assigns and all subsequent owners of the property here described. An
executed copy of this a�;ree�nent shall Ue .filed with thc; Anoka County Register
of Deeds and made a part of and be binding upon the above descrzbed propext}�;
Zt is further inutually agreed that in the evellt Lhe property iinrnediaLely
to the North of the aUove ciescribed property and abuLLing thexeto is zoned for
commerci.al use, that this agreeinent ��ill be.amended to provide that the above
descxiUed property sl-�all not endurc: an.y greater restiictions then imposed on
the abutiting property to the Nortih of tihe propertiy descr.ibed in i:his agreement.
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7N Z'JITI\TES5 ZV�IEREOF, the pari.ies have hereunl-o set their hands the,
day and year first a.bove written.
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STATT' OI' MINNESO�r� )
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COUNTY Or HL:NN�PIN}
Oix this•=�� <<�% day of 5epLc:n�iber, 19G6, before me personally
ap��earecl llonovati 1�. Fa'icl:son arid 12on�Ll.d A. �xicl:son, to zne ��ersonalI�r
lcnown, �vho being duly sworn, dicl say thaY. they <tre Lhe I'resident and the
Secretary:-'I're�surer respectively of Lynclale Terrni�ial Co. , a cv�_poration;
that the seal affiled to the fore�;oin�; instrument is the corpo�ate seal of
said corporation, ancl t:ha.t- s�.lid instrument was execu.ted by authority of its
Board of 1Tir.c,ctors; and t:lie saici Donovan A. Ericicson anci Ronald li.
Eri.cicson acicno�vledged said i.nstrixmeni: to be tlie free act azid deed of said
corporation.
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'' {SI'7.AL� !dy Commisslon Lxpires Apiii 24, 19bR
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OFFICIAL NOTICE
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLIk�dNING COMMISSION
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERfV:
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Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the
Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University
Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, May 7, 1975 at 8:00 P.M. in the Council
Chamber for the purpose of: '
A request for a Special Use Permit, SP #75-03, by
Orville Jacobson, per Fridley City Code, Section
205.051, 2, A, to allow the construction of a
second accessory building, a 24 ft. x 24 ft. garage,
on the South 100 feet of Lot 7, Block 2, arookview
Second Addition, lying i�n the North Half of
� Section 13, T-30, R-24, City,of Fridley, County
of Anoka, Minnesta.
Generally located at 6606 Brookview Drive N.E.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity
at the above stated time and place.
PUBLISN: April 23, 1975
April 30, 1975
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RICHARD H.�HARRIS
Chairman
Planning Commission
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Acreagc of Pro}�ert}�/_��l X�%�5�� ����35cribe briefly the proposed zoning classificat.ion
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or. type of use and improvc�ucnt. proi�ased
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lias the ��rc:sent ap��l icant previousl}'
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so�,�ht to rczon�, plat, �btai.:1 a lot split ar
subject sitc ar part of it? yes__�___no.
'I'he uncici'sis;ned t�ndersYancis that: (a) a list of �11 r.esiclents and owners of J�rope�'ty ;
wi.tl�i» :;00 fcet (3y0 fcct for rczona.n} ) must��v,nerstof,ltheipropertyl,l,orcan]explan.,ti�ti
(1�) 'i'iiis a��plication must l�c, si�ned .�,Y all
fii�'�n �.l�y t-}��s is ��ot tl►c casc. (c) Res}%�r1sibi.2i.ty far any defect i.n the proceeJings
re:;illt-�n�, frum i.he fai.lui•c to list the n�tn,cs an�j a<lcll•esses of all resi.clent� and
pro�,cr'vy o���ners ��i� l�roi�crt�' i;� qi�estiC»i, belon�;s to tlic ttncicrsi�ned.
A sketch �r ��ro��otied I�ro��c:rt�� and 'truLocati��nSOft,prol��sed��stri ctur1ecen th�wloi.the
follo�•:ii�s;: l. fiort}i 1?ircc.tiorl.
3. Uimr�ision�; of r��-c���ert}', i��'oi�osecl st.ructure, anct front and sicle set.backs.
4. St�•cct: h:�mes. S. I,oc,►t.i.c�n �mcl usc of aciiacr.nt cxisti»�; huildin�;s (�;�i:thin 300 fecti) .
'{'he un�lcrsi�;ned herel�)' c]c�l�'��°� that .ill t.he facts and representations stated in this
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SP# 75-03, ORVILLE JACOBSON
Per Fridley Code Section
2Q5.051, 2, A, to allow the
construction of a second
accessory building
Orville Jacobson
6606 Brookview Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
MAILING LIST
Planning Commission April 22, 1975
Mr. & Mrs. Elton Bolduan
6554 Brookview Drive �.E.
Fridley 55432
Michael Servetus Unitarian SocietyMr. & Mrs. Gordon Enroth
c/0 Glenn W. Thompson 6566 Brookview Drive N.E.
717 � Riverview Terrace N.E. Fridley 55432
Fridley, h1n 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Clarence Ohman
6630 Lucia Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
June Johnson
6600 Lucia Lane N.E.
Fridley 55432
^ Mr. & Mrs. Eugene Schilz
6620 Lucia Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn,55432
Mr. & Mrs. James Herrington
6610 Lucia Lane N.E.
Fridley 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Phillip Dolinger
6547 Oakley Drive N.E.
Fridley 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Lewis Wells
6553 Oakley Drive N.E.
Fridley 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Raymond Gerrety
1051 67th Avenue N.E.
Fridley 55432
Peter F. Percic
1050 68th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
'� Wallace E. Miller
831 40th Avenue N.E.
Minneapolis Mn 55421
Mr & Mrs. David Anderson
1015 Mississippi Street
Mr. & Mrs. Orv�lle Johnson
6600 Brookview Drive N.E:
Fridley P�n 55432
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th, �ound�ries of the land above des�ribed and of the location.of a!(buiiding�
if any, Ph�rean, �nd ail visit�le encroachments, if any, from or on said land.
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OFFICIAL N07ICE�
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PUQLIC HERRTNG
BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
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Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the
Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in.the City Hall at 6431 University
Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, May 7, 1975 a1; 8:00 P.M. in the Council Chamber
for the purpose of:
Consideration of a rezoning reques�, ZQA #75-03, by the
City of Fridley, to rezone a previously public�awned parce1
from P�{-2 (heavy in�dustrial areas) io C-2 (general business
areas�,.described as follo�s:
All that part af Lot 38, Auditor's 5ubdivisio►� No. 39 descrn,bed
as follows: Commencing a� a point on the South line of Section
34, Township 30, Range 24, a distance o� 156.0 feet East of
the Southwest corner of the Soutr�cast Quarter of said Section
�- 34, thence North, at right angles �o said section line, a
^ distance of 40 feet to the Northerfy rig}�t-of-way line of 37th
Avenue N.E., being the actual point of beginning; thence
cantinuing North, on the sarnE lin� extended, a distance oi'
360 feet; thence Easterly, parallel v��ith and 400 feet North
of said section line, a distance of 301.10 feet, more or less, to
its intersection with the Westerly right-of-way line of the
East River Road, as now laid out and constructed; thence
Southerly, along said right-of-way line, a distancE of 362.57
feet, more or less to its intersectia►� wit;h the northerly rigf�t-
of-way line of 37th Avenue N.E.; thence l�lesterly, along said ,
right-of-way line, a distance of 257.98 feet, more or less, to .
. the actual point of beginning.
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The purpose of this rezoning request is to have this property
zoned to conform to the present use.
Generally located at 3720 East River Road.N.E.
Anyone desiring to be heard with reference ta�the above matter may
be heard at this meeting.
Publish: April 23, 1975
April 30, 1975
RICNARD H. HARRIS
Chairman �
Planning Commission
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CITY OI� i'RIDLEY MThNfiS(JTA
PLANNIi�G nND ZO�I:�'G PQftM
NUhiBli�t ZOA #75-03
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George Is In Fridley
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Strect Location of Pr�perty �7�� Fa�t Rivar�,g�d
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TYPE OP REQUEST
X Rezoning
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Special Use Pcrmit
Approval of Prcmin-
inary £ Final Plat
Streets or Alley
Vacatio�is
Other
Fee Waived
Fee Receipt No.
I,c.g�Ll ticscriptioii �f Prorcrt�� P�rt- nf Lot �� � � ��-7-aM--�—s�
Prc=sent Zonin� Classification P Existing Use of Proper.ty Restaurant Bar
Acreage of Property
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Uescribe briefly the prorosed zoning classifi.cation
or typc of use ancl irnprovement prop�sed rezone to C-2 beCause this property has
ga��°f� u i c owners i p o pr� va e owners ip
� lias tl�e j�resent a��plicant prcviously sought to rezone, plat, ob�ai.n a lot split or
vari.��ice or speci.al use pc�-mi.t on t}7e subject site or �art of it? yes X n�•
{Vhat was reqticstcd and ti��hen?
Tii� unciersig»eci understands that: (a) a list of all residents and o��mers of prol�erty
-. withiii s'.�0 fcct (3S0 fcet- for rezoniii�;) must bc att�ched io t}iis �j'��Z1C�3t1011.
(1,) `3'iii:; ap��licatian ir,usr be signed hy al.l owners of r.he pro��erty, or an explanation
gi����i� ��'ll)' t�his is noi. the c�ise. (c) Responsibility for a»y defect in thc procceclings
resultin� {'�•om ihe failurc t:o list the »a�nes and addresses of all resi.dents and
pi•oJ�crty o�ciicrs of proper.ty i.ri qucstioii, bclongs to Llic uildcrsibned.
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A s}:et.ch of pro��osed ��ro��erty and structu�•c mtxst be dra�an ar��l attiac}led, showirl�; tlie
follo�tiin,n,: ]. Nortli Il.irc.ctaon. 2. Location of proposed structurc on thc lot.
3. I�iIIlCllti1011S of l�ro��crt)', l�ro}�osecl stri�cturc, and it'ont and sicic setback�.
4. StrcrL N,imes. S. Locatibn a�ld usc of acljilCCilt exi.sting buildings (withiri �00 fect),
Thc 1111�iC1'Sl�iled hereby d�:clares that all ti►e facts nnd re�jresentations statecJ in tliis
.�pp]ica�ion al•c triic .�ncl correct-. �
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Planning.Commission April 22, 1975 ��
MAILING LIST Council
� Rezoning Request ZOA #75-03
3720 East River Road, by
the City of Fridley
George Nicklow
Gearge Is In Fridley
3720 East River Road N.E.
Fridley, h1n 55421
North Suburban Sanitary Sewer District
1458 County Road J
Minneapolis, Mn 55432
Park Construction Company
7900 Beech Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Dunkley Surfacing
3737 East River Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55421
Ci.�v of Minneapolis
Zoninq Administrator
City Hall �
� Minneapolis Mn 55402 �
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MEMO TO: Dick Sobiech
MEMO FROM: Darrel Clark
/1 MEMO DATE: April 14, 1975
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RE: Georqe Is In Fridley, 3720 East River Road N.E.
We have had a permit application from K.K. Designs for improving
the old off-sale portion of the George Is In Fridley building.
The proposed occupancy will be recreation; pool tables, Foos
Ball tables, etc.
' The question now is doMs the City Inspection Department have
authority or would it be legal for the City of Fridley to issue
a building permit on the proposed improvement since the property
. is •zoned "P"- Public Facility. The land was zoned M-2 prior to
tne City of Fridley's purchase.
It would be reasonable to have the zoning revert back to M-2
since that is what it was prior to the City's purchase, however
the City Code does not state that any commercial establishment
is permitted or excluded -in a P�I-2 district.
The contractor has expressed some desire to commence this project
this week, therefore we should give an answer to his application
�„\ soon if po ible. �
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DARREL G. CLARK
Community Development Adm.
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MEMORANDUM
To: Richard Sobiech, Public Works Director /
From: Vir il C. Herrick, City Attorney ��J
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Re: George is in Fridley
Date: April 17, 1975
You have advised me that George Nicklow, the proprietor
of the ahove establishment, has requested a building permiL- to
remodel a portion of his progerty located at 37Ch and East R���ei�
Roade You stated that the property �.5 present2y zoned "P" and
that previously, it was zoned industriale You further indicated
that the proposed use is neither permi.tted or prohibited under
,�"t the former zoning.
. I am of the opinion that the requested permit may be
granted. As per our conversation at the council meeting, I
suggest that you initiate a rezoning of this property. so that
the "P" district is changed to a commercial district that is
compatible witl: the present use.
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C17Y OF FRIDLEY•6431 UNiVERSITY AVENUE N. E. • FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 55432
a�visoRVSOaRO TELEPHONf (612) 560-3450
EUGENE DALY, ' . ` '
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VsthansAdministntion � .. . . . � ..
EVERETTEDODGE
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FREDRICK J. DRESSER -
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POSTER DUNWIDDIE
� Vice Prrtid�M . . . . . � . � . . . .
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WIIUAM GREGG
Administ�tor � . � � . . . � � . . . . . �
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fRANKJOHNSON
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o��M�;,� April 18, 1975 . P�ID72I:9
ROBERT KOWALCZYK
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� . . Mena//Y Ha�die+Cad � 1'iL . LG.I.l el Cl�lt � . . . . . . .
DAVE KRUEGER Cc�.mity Develop�ent Adp�i.nistrator
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R�,..n�.�eR.�,�,ano�. City of Fridley
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DR. JOSEPk MORIARTY 643�. LJ111V@TSi.� AV@IlU@
+�. �eo o� oN Fridley, Minnesota 55432
i. � � ,,� �. ` Ex�eutiw Diroeror � � . � � . � . � � . . . .
. .. Taining �rrd Emp/oY�t � . . . � � . � � . .
°�"�'°�'°"dAdi'" Re: Proposed Site Development w�ork
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RoceR scHMaus Is13�ds of Peace
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��•""""''�°°°� Dear Mr. Clark:
_ WIILIAM SCHOENBOLM ,
'.. . . Ertseuriw Dirocror � . . . - - . � � � � � .
Minrtsapo/JS Soti�ry nf � � .
, G;,wb�"°^^°^d In accord�ce with the provisiacts af City of Fridley Ordinance Ida. 559,
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DR. BROR S. TROEDSSON W@ request permission to remove up to ten trees located an Chases Islaixd
� � PhjR}iC1/MfOiC%MO/VRMfMt and Lots 3 and 4, Block 2, Ha;�es Island Lots. AII aze located in Sec- _ �
"°`�`"""""�°" tion 22 T30N R24W, Chases Islgnd has a� area of 7.Q acres and iia es -
, ED WILMES > > �
' �^�^�� River Lots have an area of 4.16 acres. �
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ISLANDS Of PEACE
COMMITTEE
EIMER F. QLSON
LINUS B. FRITZ
RON F. BURTON
REV. M. G. OENYES
REV. E. A. CHMIELEWSKI
TONY OLSON
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WAYNE PETTIS
American Legian Post 30J�
DONA CEBULA
�Ameiican Lv9A� �✓xil/iary
Pust 30J
RUTH STARK
V. F. W. Auxi/liary Post 363
���: PAUL BROWN
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CARROIL KUKOWSKI
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We hope to avoid rem�ving any trees in the planned site�wark, h�wever,
should it became necessazy, we would Zike to haue it done while equip-
ment is available on the property. Potential areas in which trees
might ha.ve to be rem�ved w�ould include the bridge appraaches or passibZy
one near the pazking area.
Should you require additiona3 information please a.dvise. Tha.�k you for
yaur �rompt attention,
Sincerely yours,
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Foster W. Dunwiddie A7A
cc: Curt Daallberg
Bert Ellis
��S " Where peace is a way af life every hour of every day."