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PL 06/09/1976 - 6586�� - � PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CAIL TO ORDER: ROLL CALL: CITY OF FRIDLEY AGENDA JUNE 9, 1976 APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: MAY 19, 1976 RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAI QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: MAY 18 1976 RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MAY 25, 1976 RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION MINUTES: MAY 24, 1976 1. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECTP,L USE PERMIT, SP #76-07, BY NANCY MELBIE: To allow a child care center for ten chiidren, per Frid7ey City Code, Section 205.051, 3, F, in an R-1 Zone (single family dwelling areas), to be located on Lot 12, Block 3, Meadowmoor Terrace Addition, the same being 1346 Meadowmoor Drive N.E. 7:30 P.M. PAGES 1 - 16 1?-24 30 - 38 39 - 49 56 - 53 2. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S.#76-05, 54 - 59 INNSBRUCK NORTF; REPLAT THIRD AD�ITION, BY DARREL A. FARR DEVELOP- MENT CORPORATION: Being a replat of Lots 1 to 4 inc7usive, G� f�� Blocks 21 through 26, and also part of Lot 1, B1ock 28, Innsbruc Q North Townhouses Third Addition, to allow changes in the size of garages, generally located on the West side of East Bavarian Pass and South of Meister Road N.E. 3. RE-EVALUATION OF STREET LAYOUT NEAR NORTH PARK {pETITION 8-1976) 4. ST&EET WID7H STANDARDS 5. 60 - 65 .. �: At meeting Ii� J � �t;�.;r;T�,c cer�;s�l��sroh �. ;�;T?r;c ':",i,i 'PO C3DL;it: crrY cr r•xru:.�:;�t "!AY 19, '.9?6 G^.�ir!n•,n !-ar.r�^ ca�_1-d t:�,e rncetinn rr, •,ra�,- �l; �.� . ..3 p.m. �,,L !'^:[�: ..�-,ml.pr, U r�cP.,. ti<..7.r Rp�rf' .-�»s ,"n•'f,.�c.'.la� i.•�I-.�,1 U��.r,p.-�„ ,`.gmoer:_ 4b-r;n;,: Ot��ers P ._�n:,: �r'ahlber:- "},ea , , , � o..r^ 1 .�n<i �:g��- . _`.\r ��1,,-„^,*ic?' dF�D'1('��t,*,i PT,. 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Resn<�ct_'u?1�.r �uhrr,;.t,i�.t�d, Shexri O'Uom1e11, ACtir.g SecreLar.y • �i EAIVIROi�hiF�J`P�1I; COI��!ISSIO;J h`EEiING i'AY ] ts, 19'%6 `:�I?��,4F;I;�t� ?':tk,SEld7': •Iames Laneenfelds �ruce °eter>on (arrived 3:OK); Lee t,r.n SP.orre, firother �han�s Sulliian ?�1�A13:?RS A3S�?d?': °'iik� P2ripovich OTH'r.KS P°ES_':dT: Jerrold ?jo�_rd»�n, Cit:r y1=�nner Steve 01son, ^,nvirorr:i?ni,al 'Oificer i?e� SLorla, Fridley Youth Center R°i-resent;�+,ivc Chairperson Langenfeld open�d the meeting at 7:45 p.m, He stat,ed he ;:caii.d 7.i?:e Ite^� VSI, Petit,ion 3'`vo. B-1y7�� added to the agenda. APPRO'�; n, 0=' ?`T11eliTc.S OF APR.T_L `_>p, l9?6 F;P''JiRt i�'•iE;I?'I:I, rpj•n.1IS�1C)iQ _T!:_'TIi'G__ ?;OTIOJ': }>;� ree knn Sporre, seconded ��y Brot?;er �ul7ivan, to ;�pprove {,h� minuies as �•mi.t,en. Chairperson Langenfeld •said he would lil:e to cl�-ify,he itcm o?' thF prelimin^r�� pl.at ior Lcieh Terracc- a:s n!ent=nned in tn� ^.inutes, Ae st�ted t'aat in i:,he her.innin� of '�he minutes {'.his dircussien w.a.s tabled, and i:hen lai;er on, on pa.ze b, a metion *..•as f�zrther m.ade that the East River Road °ro�ect Cor�,-nittee reviP�+� �he Pl�nnin;= Commi:;�ien min2ates oi April 7, 197b, �� T"��e �'-.`I �*PPraD^iate rero�*unend��;ons to the proPer bod�r prior to the final plat. Uein:* accented. 1�ir� Lanrenf'e'd =-;d th�t. this h?d come itp at, the ?1. nning Commi.ssi-on, and h^ ct�ecked *.aii,!, '�;r. 0] �nn to see if it w?s permissable to senci the recomrendation of the East Ri.•aer Roa:9 Yrojcct Committee directly to the L'it�,r Council and accordin� to him and t:r. :•�ardrn�n it taas okay. rir. L?ngenfeld explai :e3 it .;asn'+ �n osrersight. an his p^r�•t, r-,r,rept' the East Rice^ Road Com.mittFe was gein� to report on this plat and 'ne didn't kno�a if the,y had or noi since 1•ir. Paripovicn �•:as nqt at this meeting. He st,ated t,hat no ene ��ras preseut to report on the Preli.minary Plat P.S. jf76-03� Lei�k� ierrace. iie further stated tne reason this rras Urought up w�s so thia Corunission could get this clear for the Plarming Commission to see. R�3COA�•;ENDATTOiV r^�OM YOUTH YROJECT COhR•':ITTEE ON iEEN C�NTF..R PROPOSAL: Ned Storla iaas at the meeting to nresent a reoort on the Teen Center propos�l, Ne stated thev had conducted a surve,y o£ the rridley youth and asl�ed if they �.ranted it, and those that voted the,y did not orant it f'elt it was unrralistic. fie Gaid they then went to t,he U of T4 and th^ CI�i7.�1 and Youth Develonn�n;,, ; nd they told his committee about other teen centers. He stated that at that noint the,y Pelt it would be a good idea to fet to�ether wi.th the directors irom othcr teen centers to obtain a better view oi' them, and they found out there or�s a]ot more thv� one type of teen center. He �aid some emphasized counseling, �+hile others were rnai.nl.y F;F+VIi�C�i•;';=11�'P;7'i�?, CO1��IhiIS ;7�PJ P?L"7'IivG bF' hil;Y lf�, 1976 -� PAGI�: 2 18_A_..__..__._.._.___..__�__._______.__W�_._.�_.__--.._�..___ _.� ' dr'�P-itl ``,:✓P'-'. 14ro Storla rxp7.a�ned t`,ot ��};e committee drei.dE�c1 the� di.<.?n't �nant, to i1?i:e sneci!'ic nrorns��ls to h�ve r,ertain tnir�s on cert,::En days b�;c<u,,e the:� di.dn't havu t.}ie manpo*,rer to make un a set �S prograrns. He said they thou�tit i� z,oul.d b� uood to heive a. coup]e of ,yovt},� invo'_ved, ?lon� *.ai.i;h ex-of£i.cio members o� t}ie pclic� <i�p�rtment and tr�e C.i_t,y Counr.il, and had decided a�rouc> shoulci he :et un to corne up i,9lsh t:r.e speci.fi.c progr�-ri,, He flarther stated thev f'elt th° di.`.'ferent� co��n:issions shoul.d elect someone. to sit in on the 3oard, an:� hopei'ull,y haee �he Par:-:s and R�creation Deoartment mal:e un ti:�i?at pro�trans shculd 'u�, inclnd�d, He said fi.he�y had learned since tnen that the 1'3r�s anci Hecreat,iun }?epartment felt this shniil.dn't oe in 'their departrnErit at th�.s time bec,uise Dan Hui'f Pelt they didn't have tne r.z�r�n;zs�er to have tiiis unrie.r the at�soices o,'' hi.s d.epaz•tmcnt, :ie strited h^ c�ould �till likF tlii.s ;o �o in th�:l; air�ctions and this should brir,� the Comrniss i on up to da.te on �ah.�re thi.s nr000sal stands r.owa i!rs. Sporre asked i.f' Lhere �aas a rero^t i'rom St3ff on the Youth Ccnterr and i4r. goarc�si�ri sa9.d i�, ��s r'.^�it,� much r.om.Plet..rd, Be stated tlzey fe7-t tr,.at am� yoiit"s in the 7_Sbrary area, or the ?rrks and P�ecreati.cn area t�roald haT=e to be on a temparar,� basi.s, �and �t�ey ielt ihey ��e,:e �setr.ina up�a three-;�'ear ororr«rn ior� the c.it,y ha.7.:1 +;rhich �,oul.d inciL�e both the 7.�b.ra*�,r ar:d +l�e Par;<s 2nd Recreation snace. ,ye s�_id the Parl<..e ;�nd Hecreatio*i �ar�a i*ill 'b<> r.ioired to the librar;r �o--�r.e, a. ,rr�al.l public a�ce� �ao�.�ld �e u.>ed ior a screening room, and the tY�ird use �;rould be i'r�r � ove7^flo=.a interri space, Ne said tha{, it that space i•*as not uti,li.?eri, the_y �•rc;,:1d have to f_r,d rnom sr�,ee*,-rnere elGe. He con:i_nned tha.t they iaou2d 'ne doin�; this over a. i.hree-,�ear period5 so snace Vrou.ld be available for th� first Zrea.r on a tempera.�.y iJ2S1�. iif.'.. ^O?T'c�ntan 3!�G��Ci :1€' :�T01211� .7�3.d8 SO:�i� (7llP5"i.'.OnS �S t'J �,�hP. {�".�P.,F Of �lE;(; �P,hat Uro�:1d be de�eloped in that space, �r.d i£ that u�e �.rou7.�i be dFtrimen�;al t�e �� {'.Y?� j)••EeFC;T.i. i.lC,,-�T 3Q'T17.211.';':riT.lOYI ?C{:1V1t1P.go a�@ B"i.}J1.21.1"ic�^: 't!i(: T.?i�..`�.��"1'L ?�2.'.'�.°, gl':C'. Rer.,reatiot� area will b� t2ken over b,y the polic.c: de�sr<<aent. as the,� ��rer� ures��n�1,y usi_ng their sta£f ror;^� for thre� puzposes. P4rs. Sno.rre asked r;hat kinds of actzvities P?r. Boar'wnan felt .aould h� compa.tib].e i•rith the �enera2 activi.ties of the c,ity hal7., and !�e .replied the a.c1:�z�ii;ies t.hey presentl,y hav� �r;ith ,r,ir.g-t;nng and .*"oos?�e11 =.�ould t�e co�np?tible. Iir stated a jukebox froi�ld probab].}> be d�sirable, ar.d that t,�ne of ft.nction is imnor•t�nt, but svace fcr g�l;he,°in�s for dances wou�.d not b� s;vaila.bl.e. He suggested that the city look at some ei t.heir present �r<de schools for this type of activity, and sai.d that Park Vie,r School ceuld possibli be used, iie sCated �ne c.nul�ln�t ^ee r. pa.rmanent t.een cer':.�r in !:he ci.cy hall di.e io the spac� th�� ;ere gainE= to need in tihe n�r,t Sew year�. T•ir. Stor).a said he felt the i.dea aUout the sc.hool �.r?s a�ood one� but ;,rith regard to the ping�pong 1:ab7_es, he felt they �aould be more ef a waste th�n an asset as they are h3.rdly ever used. He said they had picked t.he city h^11 because 9.t i�.as a central location and it o.+�uld he low cost. He stated he didn't thinlc th� dances zaould be any prob7.emx and said the type of orograms vrould depend on the group that would be elected to loak intv it. Fir. L��enSeld asked what the major purpose of the center would be, and rfr. Storla replied that t.*ould depend on those that r�ut it to�ether. He said as the,y s�;a it the ,youth of Fridley had a limited numrer of places to go if they didn�t want to spend a lot of money. I�ir. lian�enfeld then asked ho��r it would be started ii the proposal was approved, and Mr. Storla said it would be with the election, as their 1:iavIRON"1C�,iV�r,AL r,o;;^iT_�SIOta 1�'frS�rl_PrG oF rRr.Y 1ii, 1976 �- PAC,E 3 � rrcomTendai;ion stxt,r,r?, t?r. ;{'c:�la sai.d the other teen centers do ever�thincr rrom m=.Y.i.ni; er,�no7a. i;o ,;arl,ina ;,�.th t,he arts. °;or,P }iave i,h�ir own b�,,r< °errice� hr, sai.d, and som^ .,rr,� bi; i.n athletirs. He sai-d hc �eculd lil:e to see a place i'cr the kids to go a.t ni.r:,hi; �r.d dur;.n� the evenin ;. 1�1r. 07.son a_s:�ced if he c��:��ision�d it, as being s-�milar to Brooklyn reni.er, and 1'r. Storla rep7ied that xas a co:nmun:.i,Y cen+er, end he had on1Y visited the nool srea, He stat,ed tnai, 9.n +h� �urveY the ma.i�rity dzr9 not :�rant a r,nmrmni_isy cenY.er� and asked itr, Ot�on �;rhat prn��r��ms l;e ��as :e�'err_ng to. 1;^. Oisen repli.ed �r�ts; ?. roncn to }�11T. OT DZdy:� �'Il�. C/J?]C�,]'��. :!P �-B�.F.C3 1'% ��:.�.3 �;�1i. ]TOl'a 1]':Tl a,�.�i?Ii'�.T�f P�pl rip ;;f;a't��l. �}iC �]?CJ T'P,Rii i.il^_ 71G"�f'S 1nY'O.^i L'1° f"lln.,�7 P',E.��UT.^.C.� 1�0�"LJ1S��lOR. 7r.a ..r'S �'.��"I�_T'l.il� *..rhat �,�-ne r��' �i �Ay h�a oeen ..ken. i:r. Storla �epli�d tl» re.ults uei•e '��clve pa��s lonp} a.nd er,P'ained i� h d been hz�c3ed out to about half ttie �,+ouc� of I'ridle; in thc: �unior. and senior h;_gh schools, FTe said it hsd b°en clisiributed t.o tne home roo:as �o;neiime before Cnristmas last ��ar, arid it rras r.ollectca by v:rirnis ^�e an s . t:rs. .porre aslced ��;hy cheJ haczrz't asked Di.strict 1)., ��d p•;r, ;torla renli_ed ihe-. had f�lt ther� ,a.°.re oni•;* a srnall nutnbar nf l;ids invclv.�d (noi,g i,n Coon 3�oid�) and th�,y had co�r�red all thn o�hers, He sa�d t'�e sLrvey v?as tnr�e pages lon° er.ca asked such que:tions �s *.:�ha_t the5� rrould li}:e �o s°- ir a':een c�n�,er� etc. t3r. Bo3rdmsn said P•ir. S�vr7.a h�ct stated the ma;ority did not r*ant a concounit�� center� 811f]' BS�E'� lr t.IIE�I n?:'1 ?•;?r�� ,^ r,a?y7 re:�LP-T' S"D�ir�gF.� f'1"OI'1 ? r0�'C!��lii�t`:' C_IltBr. I�ir. St.nriz replied +•hey didJ and th::t on� of the problems :Jas th� ; the �.routh of F*.'.;G.IP'j Fr@T'8 not, rcal'?•r ?•.��re ':,'}l%?.� a te�n cen±.er F:3S OT' 8 CO.^,uffU]'i1�;7 ^enter T..•'S3 and t.h2t or.e ef th2 hia mro�le::s aae a mild c2se of mis?.nte.r�reri:�,;. i;e siai.ed that n� did not unc±erstar.<� ;.�hat t�e;� *.�;ere oncosed to a co^�r!uni.t-� rent^r. Mr. Langenfeld stated that in th? nimii.�s o£ the ?�'e:;i s2r,y 1_7th x�,v_ r�m�:en �sl. Co:mniss=on meetir,� 0�7 t�� Youih Center, tt;�, nas he�n tabled until ini'or:mation could Le �•eceived consi.stiing ef tne kecrrai.ion Dp^artmer,t bud�et a�sess^�::nt., a� opinion i'ro-• '�� roli�es and �c.�r;�'° �s e°.,'��r± �F .- .r,ri't;✓ us� oi ine c�ty ha�l. He said +!�cY� i�ad rereived the r�nc�r� fro�� Staff, ar.d re had he2rd t�:e �r,1ic� had stated that th�;y d�.dn't feel �t �•;as verf mtzch o£ a nroblem, I-1� said tha_+ the Human uesources Commi:sion mimztes state tLe reco:amendaticns the�� have� �nd h� taondered if *his Cornmission couldn't heln t.nem out by stating they si�oi�ld hazre a teen center and let. thera start the Board and decide on some cencret� ideas. Mr. Lan,u,enfeld =aid t.hat once the;; got sta.rted� they :,roiz�ln`t have to renort to every co:�mission in th� city. He then asked t4r. Storla �ot•r he felt. about hacring one n5_^ht a;aeek set aside for use oP the �*.-:��nmir.n pool �.ahen the T:hole group could �o over to s.*im. Air, Storla said it r:as a good idea, but it �;ould denend on the Etroun of ,youths ..nd if the pool �aas av3ila_ble. He said some teen centers do similar thi.ngs :rith a c�moing night� karate ni�ht, eic. 1dr. Langenfe7.d said he felt the�r did need a teen center, but there �aas a nuesti.on as to the temnorar,y residence in the cit,y hall and liow the Commi.sion feels theY should gei started. Pfr. Boardman asked what P•1r. Storla t'�ought about the location being next to the nolice department� and if he thoupht that i•:ould be detrimental to attendance or restric,t tneir actual iree iime, hir. Storla reolied he would hooe not� �nd he thought the kids mi�;ht behave in a mnre ci.vilized manner hecause the police ;vere ri�ht ncxt door. He also pointed out that vandalism and drugs would not be prev3].ent. �'PdVitt0lili�ti3�!'lAL CO,S1JT9170i� b11�dTL'�!G OF t4.4Y 1E3� 19"(fi - PP.GF,? !a 2�_.v ?ir. L?n��nfr.ld sni.d that perhap; voutkis ;rou.lc3. oome fiom othex• cnrcmuci{.,i.e� and inv. de ts}:�.e cent�r, �,nd t•tr. St,�rl.z renlied h,�iat t,ne cr nt,�r i.n Goldc.n Va11e;,� h:^_cl th�t prnhle;n ,n the,y ��ere think,in� of is�uing n��n� carc�s or uasses, � !i^r>. Srorre asked i?' th�e Bnnker Hi_1L Commwi='l;,T C�:nter h�c7 l�een c?,�-,cked int-o. She ,^,tate�d it r,.a:s a lnvel.y b�ai.7,dir,� and should he used mor� than it i^,, erid if the �ro�er.t cor��i{;tee i_� in�.tiat�ci �nri dn•,r�l�p;; �ome nuideline.�, t},^t shoriiri l�e SC;'lafirli.l'if' ''.;j C07751/�°7' -z5 7.t j.5 11.^:ar� T`2C�1.31i� ,. H[�.1�5 .=3")fj 1;�f�Zr� COl1T'^(`� ilYt^. Ii.'l.i �.li!?r'.' :"��'%!'i^ i�OY' ,^'.::S1C!'..`ie !`lre .�i1;OP7.-^_ ?"fT1�.1��;3r't�`?o.f. Yl0 Ot1�' 1.'1%!.). P"I^11i:'..C+il(-'.fi {�,l"lc'l't, hf.fi�:'�$ ti1".t, i:h(,' CCI?CEY'C! 4iO13�.':, tlf', t,l't�'t OYICP. 8 v011i:� 1"I-.1 ]'1'.`. ^�.T' '.`lU' .� ^:'.n^.L' !1E? T1rnh'1!71.?' wotildn�{; r,o there. i�9r5. � porr4 ssz;�c:�,ted u: �n�; a i�u� �ercice, hui: l�;z•. St;or7rz said he fel+ i.t should be more o.i ^� rirop-Sn c�:it�r. l-irs, Snorre �aid i;li::,t i�' enounh err,pr,-.^.�is „as rrat on the use of that facility bus s��vice ce�ild r�e �ro�a:ded �ut there. She st2ted. ti�e cnuni,y taas _°»ndin�� it' •and 9.t ?aouid he �. geod option. nrot}ie^ Su7J.iv�n stafea he t`nit i:he ,yo,�th n�eded someplur,e� ?�ui cii.r'.SA�t )<nnti•. Cl.C3T�.' li}l�'� i,�"!GV L�rLJ1L. [if: �2,,..C�. VOU. Ccri CIU(' l:%1BII1 8 P.�.�.^..2y Dll� 7.:f' 1%. 1_^• I.O- ^2L th-_ -•:a�nt., th�re ,,ou__d be no nur_�ose< He st2ted h� ti;•ould_ l_i.ke t;o t:no .,;nat t;��e 01' �.ct. v!ti.�s �:ou7ci r.e3.i1.•� be :sa:nt�d b,y t7e vot�.t:n. t�Ir. Stor�� s2:d +�r,}r ;�:�d C�E',C:LG(?['1 pil 't,177.5� i�.*:a.3t OS ;":;O'l]P ?,hOi2L 7.{: 'D^C11tnE QTiP.. Of i:�7° T'P.8.3n17;i 1 t��F,.l Cf'1'7.tF�P . di.es i: 'oecause t;r.e teens do na� h�c.�� di�,-,c:t, ;nr�u'c iu�o t'.-�e rro�� :;" the,:� r�i� �i° Sg].(�. 'f,�13{i lf� fl'1F' '1?f�I!1�J°Y'S Q'1Ci RO+ v'iVi� %�i.E,' :1(l± �;;17?'� 'ttl.�nr �,r�ult.�.�j tOP t',}7(?� 5�i.'.SL c.r '�'.hj.?^i:y ::3�i5� ??2 Flc::t_Gri ;-;0111Ci h2 hGld fn .�n-L l`,I70°�E i��ri0 t�;OU�CI '„r�-.-�r ,i.?�_ii`T,':Y7 . . . . °... .,3I.fi L�lz?G ..I°.:'C� �.?i'i1.f..4t10Y15 =D j.C`^I7' ,f P7 r_l.i . '9 t'._ ,*f�.,*. ± f'{ � fiIlt.y OPG� ��l"OU.l� I'IJ.r i7{'. 1�1�ti �::217�. i 1J�.':^f' �.p c*P�i. t(�••t•L.110T' :r0?' Cil �Cl',.�.57(�72i3 flllii 871U{:�'IG?' F�l"Oli;` �,['}1'�� ..".;?i. .^-,};2^F. fOT' �2itCE'.Sy BLG. 1'(' Sll�,.*k.�G'S{',ECj. 'f1.�2t �''l? CO:.�II:_�'.:L'c: 7)f? gC:�l, li� Cl�?'OT•.�,. }l�'. . C011l.'i VOt.!'. C1ri 1ii• Gtiairperson Langenfeld saidthxt the,y sno.�.ld sLo�:.� ir. th� recoz�ci zha; t:rr:v ^,.r� t,; �r� no�t. in a.�reement fvr a teen center 'oeFare i,he di;c,us�icn �7ent ari;�r �'urther, He ;-aid i:�� p:�rsen�v.L.,* ;'eit :'.iey do ne,=:i a2 teer. center, but �fGF•r t?�at h� di:?i��: ttf�.nk the�r r��al�y ;me�r orhat th�,• ,:zen`ea. He s�zci 'r.e T;�s .aondrrir,� i° i.h�-r ,*:anted adult S111Jr^_Y'VJ_�7.N7 OT 7.f lf. l� {:p be 7'llYl CO^li..':L?f.^c.l� '.>1r t.t12 '.'Olt't}7..^;• ''''i.^. .�i°,O^''? "C?p�_lf;rl they fow�d it a nece:ssi.ty to have a Bo^rd =aith rne:nbers i'?,om the C; tv Co,��nci7.„ i�'r. I3o<rdm�� said he kept hearin; that °rae nred � Leen center"9 and 'n.� cuesiion�d �•-het!?er :an actual place or thing like a tieen center is re�.11,y- thal: ne�ded. iie felt, acti.z*i+i_es are needed, but r,�est,ioned 9.f n center iaas rea.11}r needed. He said he thougt�i: samethinn that, ��ls the teens toRether ior certain actiti�i.i-ies is needed� but the tvpe oi functians ;3re so varied that a coordinating unit £or activities might be rzeeded. :�fr^. Sporre sugp,ested that oerhap, �:here shou.ld be a slot of the I'ar!cs �nd Rec.r=ati.on CoT�mission th�t is nnti.t2ed °Youi:h°, .Nir. }3oardman stated that a te�n center to one ,yout'� m��;ht be a s�aimming pool' to ^nother a dance hall� 2nd to yet another th� opportunit�r to play a pinball machine. �Zrs. Sporre sain this is Grhy she brou�ht up the .^.,]nt entitled '�outn�t. She �vondered if titere shonld be a representritive on the Pti^ks and 1?ecreati.on Coru,zission for ynuth, and Pelt th2.t mi�ht get to the root of the problem. h1r. Ol.son sa'id that in carrying this a litt7.r iurther, *�rhen you talk of Parks and Recreat;i-on in Fridle,y you are ta]kin� athlet.ic activities. He said that in the bulletin £rom the Park, and Recreation Department there i.s tenni.s� soitball� etc.} Uut in other city Uul7etin^, there are alternate ac'tivities avail.abl.e, He stated ��vTROr,�rir��aTnr. cu�� ss�:or� r�ir.�,;:2nac or s•tay 13, i976 - Yn�,z�; 5 2� that others provi.de =^. rec�.d r>Iayex' ax�d �Ym ior i�olle,yba.U_ and dod�e bullr there are s-,,i^,•nin., no�l av^ilab�e� r]us othrr �.ctiviti�r, r,oing on. H� fe]t t,}�a r,;t'� is J.�.r,kiii� i.n i,'u> .•here �thletics are �,ve:rPmpi .,zed, a�� sii^F,e:ted L�at � little direction ni�;ht lle n�eded ic� prn¢ide i.h.'is t.ype o�' t,iind, hir, :7torla s�i�d they *�ere hopin�c for an �ddi.tional �tt_f{' ,r.�rson {,o Iielp tnFn, and i�lr. 01.=.cr. saicl hv i'elt the;� needed a. cocrcl;ns�or; eor:.^-.body :.rho had the abili��i i;o coordin�i;e -.et.i�i.te=, nerhan� t'�ra».r;h n teen council, Ae st�'bed the ccncept. of coordin?tinF th� di�.ersii,:f of pro�.rams *:*�s i.nnort2nt, i`�r� �?02.T'C'1'11Cv?7 ('XTl�..3�i71E•:� �:Ilc'lt, ].i li.�iC' �.1��;! C.C�Ui7C11 C!'00.".�8� f.0 ?71]'F' ,'ilOtilE'X' 1",°PS!7'.l t}1Bti COli�C: (�U 50< CiU."t; ,^•.t, 4�'ie 1")rESG_Tl�:. �%,'L7�'.��. ti�C i'7?''./.G '�.'.1ri t�iC'�^E^�?C;11 ;�."�`JT: n-•:�,f; loo'�iri� at their er.isting budRet and sryin^ t!�e;� c� r:_�oi; do it on th�:t. r.ir. Stor13 exn�.2i_nP3 t'.�at the�r s�lc t?!e rnost econ_r.;�ica7. �::ay to r;�1: a. gr�uo cf people t.o COiIlO Ay i31`,�l thEG� pro�rams S.Tl.'7' i.G f1riCi C��li, i70t1 $ 1,8Eri C<'rii.�T' -'O0.lCl �'J° ?CC°Uj.@0. �70U��. �C@ 7�.0 USE'. 3 P;��,PI PS^^f::li;l3� p••1c�1P.�?9 SUC}7 ^.c t;na{� 1c�{'. LO +;1e� x` r � c:.y`� ��, p a�_.� f D9�.lOP C�BT13^i. �l8?lLe Z�'11R i. } y n'. 581� . "'8 ;:bll�.f� 'PB � �. _ . . . '_S 72 h., .,^ 1_ „I"i i,�l� TJr�;.S•�.'11S �.:° ,`1c:.�.�.F:�. . T�i2'. �� 7n21 �. oi.Q Lh?'=; '"}`C tVPB Of I'eSn�Ut O.`i tn ��. E tti 'lE. {:O t.�'1(' i?L'S'1 Il T2r �.OUP(`ac L'Ot11(iti�.1011 1°II1�'.'�:2� t.�C% :P4;T'2 ZOr.l��r�r a.i,� '�C i.'�..,.l� t1iRt 1"!a.-UC i�7_ ?�1�-?'. .�"lp^.i�(� }1° �.00lk11iP, .t 75 2 bY'O,I�Ct ,^,Op1"Q71:'GCF CIl +Yi° :?.^!i^ Co*::,,_°sion 'f.0 9:'.-�z.1��1:;t1 A51TI�,' �prn� i .tjn ni T ('il �;lt. �- J �.2t�!' 11?l.�' '}1;L � � 1,�,^ nt *iT0 vl �' 1 � �:!lB{. ^Tl C�P piG e'i �n4' � �ilCi :'.'��Ati {",:l° .i0�2L}1 '�.:<!lt. l.^. {:.T�.-l� O� 2C�:7.iri7.l..S• �J?(3 r Icp qn71 i�P.�:� +i113't L��C';r 1:'PT'B tv'.Z�C7.11^ ?j?••�17± I!:�'�t'Dvr^ f?'O:'1 t'�� i�ili.V (;Ci?)IZr.i� 2'la DO�_].Ci: !�^Dc.�:�i,i^!C'i1t,t r,ll(i �in Cj1Ci1�1: t_�ilriK "i,'rl.�,�� r011l�? ?Cr.:;"17�.ich i.f1P.l.T' Q��)cr;1�i.`,`c;`. ].R !:.�77�T?' Q�tT� qS t�:lE?4c. pn��t?la h.�t? oi;'rier ,iob�. ar n �a.•�. r _ir0�''12Y` .SL'Zl-.'c^l7 t�0 1"ECc1.�rc• -t,'�e i'(��^;:1 ��Pllt�°.T' ��:0^l IOi� by Lee .nr. Sper�e � s. _ n.led b,, , Pror,os^.1 as �t.�i ,C? :t?� LhP fS�1P�?11 Resc�irc�^ I^.C'RC�.eg-r1R w7Y2i1�.C� Or' �,L`.'+1l 1� 1�7�. Upon a voir� vote} a11 voting 2ye, the :aotrion c<rri.Ad t:nanirrnusl��. . , ',:1'h'_'1 ?:*}la,t :t�.Tr 1"'� S;:J.f� a*nf� �1'.nUr:;t,t. it �.i'i.S ^ '717�'S�T.i0Y1 }?rs. Sporre � � =he =�read ..°- for the Pzrk� rp �e� eation peeole to �,ddre��, and that cheir failure i;e �dress � iti cane from tne fact t,hat thev don' � ha'�e enougn rione.y. She � �ated ihere �.*as a need for more recreation p1��-:in^ than is now urovided, �nd that re.,uires {'unds and staf£ abilii:v. S7e thought the concent of a youth commit�ce ?;oard of Directors t,orkin� trith the p�rlcs and Recreation p�oale *.•:as extremel,y va.i.id. MOTION by Lee Ann services s. Regular m y City Counci Resources Com Fridlev Yout re, seconded £or discussion by Broth Commission that the City provi-de com that funds be used to establish dive and that a Youth Program Committee ectoxs consisting of six regular ipem ers shall be appointed by the follow one Uy the Fridley Plaruung Commissi sion, one by the Parks and Recreatio ro}ect Committee. One ex-officio me uncil and one UY tlie Fridley Police r Sulli��an, to rehensive recreation se recreation option: e developed having a and two ex- np011DS: ORC One oy tne ri�iuic mmission; and two Brother 5ull:ivan i•rondered iahy all o£ those people should be serving or e]ectin�;� as he didn't see tif�e need for tnat. }ie said he crould like to see the youth involved crith the pl2nnin� of the youth activities. ,r•:idVIi?Oi;?i.;ivT?�7� (,'Oiibl];`,^,I'C+i; �s"7:TlT]U G'r' l"AY 1�� 197!> PAGii 6 22 :.u_._�__,.._.�____. w�..��,�.,._.__..____ .___ t-ir. Olson stateci he :Ce1� t,hey n�;ecled �.i ;t��ff' p�xson eoo:^d.ina:tor. IIe sa:i.d that � }i?'. i:iO3T;31*1.^I� �17 2.^• CCY.'j.;;'i_YE j�EOD�-C' ftV:3.7.1_21J1E 111 �115 .F��.?S1T.�!.p;' 1jS+"1^,T{,i'N`i)L,. i`�T'. �.�:iOT1 1;01"ti.i:lll(',� t.�-1=it 1� ';??.:�� lfi(:i1t20t1(`�3 "C;1F_ 1�3:'�S� �i.tt:? R!`Cl.'F,.it.:101'1 1)E:F7a1{.It;.^.ri'G (i.nE?,^•il��t �"1_i��„ a'loi; ��f on,�v, ,�rhen in f'aci i;hr,y ha*re a tremenr7ous amo�u�t o�' mon�,y �n �.hc��s }�uc��;et, �Ne s�ir3 {,�z:>-�r pi�o ride �r��'r.,y �dequai;�ly Fer t,he '-.;zn.y �bobs and have c�:cci l,-ent, atil�l_� i,_ic D7'pnr�i",.S Cf .^-.OSi:t�31.1� �"C;CGfP.�T. g{:^.� ��;�"11�.?"1 2.^E? Vf:T_'V Yi@].1. j7T0'��l<�(';j Ipi„ i�r' 't:}IOU.�;flt t�:�i.t m��-i;e *.,h�9.r »r�-cr.ities �•rere not correcT> 1•!t.'. 303T_'(?'*I'?Y7 �;Alt? t�};1'�, �-:l^�^E: t•7�.5 a 70t OS 17!OYt°1T �rL "th.^-, ��3Tk^ ��T.'7.'.'i�,)nn)71,� llt7�� i�tl�^}r . stiou:Ld rr -.lir�a t,h,=t the y�rr.s r..p?rtinznt i s t r.in� a l.ot oi' it on :'rom their T'P_;'?Ui�?�.' l7Lid�'i3"� 39 t,l?eY'�� 1� ri0 l]OriCl'71{' ��GACe 't�8 _S,�llT't};P.Y' ',Y.:�7.8.1YJ_P,d tI1?t �L!l(a �-F':'.g �.1E'j_�F1T'tL4nIIt f..:_.; i7,': �p�iE: 17:f.0 4P�,y •^;?]�� QR'�211? 7:-�510.°a ',i.'111P.1 ,_.' anipr . . '�/1'�." . r, .;c ' •.•11i C�1 12'J"�. COt7t1lPl�'7?'�.7.!?:� n? z;?�.E? 612 ��.`)'�]'lCiiTl�? ��SliC �hF. .�.,i.C]. -?r �' park. rt�^e., : HP a�d�d tha+, time: the n0t7ies thati ci`o ?V:'il�.$tiJ�O &.T'B T115�.8�^!j117k�. SpIDC '.3TG'�}lE?Y'� �+i7.1;1V2Y1 53].Ca. ;lE: fE',l't �t'iP. UY'OaS?.�T.S i;nr_n, g{',l�.l UY:b41?±1ri,C? Snr�(?r,�j"1�:.'t. j:in� ?�jrl:-:i'C�Y.c,'?Yl S'7.Ca 'f1C' f�(?�t 'ii'.T�� f.iOII��V l,(12�, 1.f ^P?Cf, 7.S ;:)T'�`TI.�).°� 1CtS' EL tE',prl ��_r,+�r ,�thnitt t_h,e r,oerd;n2t;:z° that �,es alor-� ��n_t?� -�t,, tie 'l�rt,!r��t �_t >;ou1d be a r.o,;-out. I�r_ stated h� iaoul.d hai� to see :,, �.ce .^,ro��ided i.n the c_.t.y I,a21 arYd _.v.?r.VUon'- .^l� aro4rid ancl '.'atCI7 to s�e �.t -�t ?„oi ld faz7.a ^:�c3 ih n...-r 11.7�11 s+l;.�v }:FA� �:ti.P'..T' C:11?��rE?�:• �.n n.{b��111C� }l'.-'. u?iC�:1�t i.c,�l c/?�^.Cr 1- .,'�.^,8{ 1_� Tl.�:��i,f? ^.{; L�)l� t.=."I�c^� �ll�r �a. �;00]'C�I.Il<1�P�±. �;��0:'� r`j� 2�-� CC;1Cf�Y'17�`� ll.�'t.V (�iOt.:11'�J.7.J i.0:"�L �"'LC�i1�y "r;UL�ly � 2.ri� c CiU �i, pEOpl G� . 1S `:ih2i, 15 PFC'C'.,�'.t^, �'�`. i)h1S t,l'lP. �,U S;t'. �'Li:15 OT'r� i.!1C; f�1•Oi'P,.!7. ;l,..o �-.'7:I'-> �::.tri Sr9 i:'25 :�O"L E'Rra }.}13� ,JUS-t �h.�..� qp,i"ir �ery;�].? an?_ r;�igi"�tl_Si7;1` SJ'1. F�-i�lc}� np,ild ��equ.�,te�.g r-_•r�l��-T,e tn� pnt-�rti �,�r.oar _, �=s �ab'.<< 9J r� statF�9. `i.�.'1.-'a't. T,IIn �%O•^cf.1.S1012 }'.%"i �. .^O�P.��. ,�. l.e.n�.� �J17:G :.-.hP, �'tt017(,�76 ',',Y1C'.T'e � ^,S ? ��7'�: }:r:7td`_�f?7' er.nre^eion '.:hat some tfpe oi -�ecraatir,n. ^? ^�n:ra� i� neeued. Pir. Boardrna,_n said that r�e:yt;e +„he;� could �ick u.n .r.�rsonne:i to coo�•c7.:i.nat° these d'�,izTl'f:].!?:7y :�5 COOT'�:lYl?{'.iOR 41?S 3 71ECESSli,lr 17EF_^�, `�1f. .^�1:^'C,gC1 'f.P2..'�:. ��"1g`,.r S.�CI'C.', ;;07.i1� t7 17C'E:�a. �. F'dT';C,'3 1_�1?^��CtO:" c00T1� ^.I1C]' �']� COUl:.� J0351.�J.�.`J' ''1aV2 8 7?G'r:�7'Oiii2(� .ln. ^8(:TC' if.l_Ori acti=.riti!�s of sorne ]cnd �.a'.�o co2z�d �ive that over to st��'� pFrscim�el �t,o coo��dinate that act,ivity under his sunernision. � ?4z•. Olson said t.nat in talkisig abo�it recr�atio�i nlaruiins,r� the coneept ef a � recreai;ion de�re.e itself i.s cery� enr,ompa.�sin� and ii teaoh�s abouu programs that shoulcl be c�rovided in the r,o�rtrunit,,y. He t,liought. that hi_rin; someo:�e �,ith this t,ype of t,r,�uu.n� „ould. be instx�nnent.al in br�ngino this around. Ae stated that a't t,his poi.nt t.he Yout.h Comm=ttee is looking for thei_r so7.utiicns� so perha.ps b�� s{:arting the ball ro7.l.ine, �n thi� �rea it vrould start in other areas (th� elder7.,ys etc.). P"r. Petersnn stated he i'elt there sl�ould be sorne a_rea set ecide for the youth. IIe s�id {:nis ;:�ould be a�;nod u�ay to start� but f�lt the,y r.eeded a pl.ace the�r could ca].1 their orm. Mr, Olson suggest��d checici.rig with the school distsict officials and finding out =,ahat t.heir pr.ojected needs over the next ,yen.rs arc� as there are conununity i.ac:ilities available. Mr. i.angenfeld stated �e personally felt there should Ue a Youth Director �ait,l�in the Varl:, aatd Recreation s,yst.em. �Srs. Sporre said s;1e thought that totnl p3�nning shou].d be Snte[;rated� and she envisi.oned a Recreatzon Planner. She stated if the cit,y hired a i?ecreation Planner iaith �ensiiivit,y, the »rograrns could be me�hed. She said she didn't see sight and service as separate thi.ngs. ENV�r.soiarn??��rrr,� co;�„zssto;a rr�;r.rl�.r, or i�rn.y ZF, �-976 -��n�G,:; 7 Chnirm�!1 I,,:��f;r•n.felc3 s?i.r1 he *.?rntld lilce to :.eF: a voi:.e takr n).ace an t;,e moi;ion, U�071 ?L VOlC° 'rO�Ey 8�-1 `70±,1.]"!j', 3VL'. j;�':n.Y"O'�_�;`1 CF3I`T'1Cf� 1'.'!15th'1IllOA^].�'. �3 )•ir• �O^.T'C�I117,r1 °h10_ 11i. t110L1P�?t t11�3Y'C 'r7?,S 1 Q'.I(,St.].Gt7 UTl ila tC1_ ?'E;(+?rcilll? 8Y1 ?.C%:ic�. yauth c'�r�;:er. }iE ?.id thnre !icsld he �one c�2rneLir,n give•n to °'^�` the C1.t�,� C�'17iC1I ?"1C1 tiil[' }��vl:l]Y1(� vOP17f15SlOR a._ Lq t}:p tY"�'.'1 .7.0.^ Ci pu�.. .. ' 7'.^.. �:p0'r� stated .•n, ,-.;,�;,� „h�{, .,'�.,-� 'hi, has � 11 t;r_^n i. 'e,� oiit fo^ u> (':nnt the pnlm �^ ople �Zt te, ��n n.." � h', kin3 0." t;� m� crul r� t � 2 r�� l'�1.� i r� �hcn r7.Tl'� i'1rJ � ° (l'P�1T1 .C� !'.' ��_.1ll?@ % `.i+°Tl `�L COU�_t� . _} �II'!('� }1C,1 DT' 71 >� +•.h�' C� � � rl l� C011_1.L� �J° ]SG(' t:.7:,�0?'3T �;�'� 5"lf> .:nj'j �llit U_^.�11 ..ng }tLC� �!7B :'�. ':, O' ,rll... 1P°n'.-'!1�t7.CT1 she could n�i, �o aav Furthe:. i'iT, Rp�rrlT�la.}7 ^11C� h'`' i`C� t i.}78i. +.l:P ^ C�:l'P`�{'� �S�ryll�C3. }.)n 2^S.'E'Y'C'C�y .�.,�j �h . ric,i.'P.+ ,-�a= brnight forth in t'ae £ir t lotien r,nat � c nrclin +� sY.�vl�i :� n�v�lo^e�1. t'�C' �U[�(rn.�t,.:.'� 1 �f?^CY;:': 'TG{�1!�R � It",r?n -t0 't1:P_ P_I!'!:t f'.'1?_ii, i.}!P rj�ricl.G?1 O:1 �.'na llSP Oi �}IB C1V.l.0 Cf.'IItar id011�� JB CiC'.��';'2� U.�{:i�. �UC}1 COi7uTll_'tiB�:c :?iJll'lrJ C9�<•glpp .'�13`. R m ...�n,� :n,+ LY. rni,±h �+� :'�^i�iln.r r r r.�%Y tsn}e oi ;,tiv. i.�� a� � r,ar._, ' o �^ n ce . ° it c•rz.� a rr,attPr oi p.�oia.ti. he t.hetroht t,he1 -oulr bP s�r:pmnr� out �n t`s? .*nng �. ?�OOjS 2�?. n�'tt,.`,.11p . ��y+ �� 'c.. f�7.S5L �Il� tRCrl <i.::Cl�.�..l,t� ,,;�12t t0 1.58 �':"�r _7�•^,2 ^OY'o '1'fI'. `'J{',OT�.3 u8].Ci �IP, S.(:Zj: t,'.�77.^> C�]._'.?7 -r`3S El Zhnt• �,h7}, ag CO',�ll7cl'P.Ct i..0 t,11F:1.7' rvCOTi;Y.^,°.L1:a2-� t14i1J blli�: t7� .`2T50128!ly iP.i� _� S^C;�°�A 3?�1=;�:t,. .`3T'O��i"C;;' �U.!_�.]V�'1 :'t:u";f�(i tr!2fi 1? tRF:'p ..J°r° cOm:• ;k_l¢� ':1t7�J '''^.?lk..°a. T�O :';2+.. C'1{'. O� 1�,1�8 }lOt]S" fl� 1'IJ.�:"ii.t t.:i�Y�: ':�?_^. 71n P.lgCn -)T' t^_E'Ii T.O ,"O lil 1_':.C:�.f'}r. !in .°21�'. 72' t'1'_(,,�r :":3C1 8. tCCri CE:?"k.^,'^p �17�'•j COl1t.^, �P�U i_'1 ci.-"1 lf �1"'E n.._�,cnl� ari.' t31. -.:�a �('�11R"L nO. and a snace �,�culd be n^cdea for th �+ 't��ne oz t"_n�, :�.. ?ndAa t._-i, �e d-ic �r ::e *.�rit':i the motion. P1r. Boardm:.n said it r� _y seeri like a 1on� !•ra_y do::�i t1zP l_ ine To i•he zroun� necrle, bnt. i� 11PPr� 7tOt t^�CP. ZOTC'V�l'. ��r. �lSpYl 'J.��?C t,}]a� f.17�T :'° 2 i�i:11i° 2li0Ut c"Yl additicnal assi�t=nt_ unde^ �':r ne.r r�r°ctor ?or P,hi tcind o? COGr(;i�1�?•1CP.� Fv"!(� it :uas somei,hi.ti� tha_c could �e d2`GU"ed "`-�1n re_.ol.ved ::nd put �nto the necJ budget in Jul,y and A_u�LSt, Mr. Langenfeld stated '='^at t'.nen 'the act�zal rec?uest for a t�r.�oor3rv i,een cente^ z7ould actuallv b� an��•;ered after t,he implementation of i,he r�oticn too!�; pl.wce. REI'ORT FROi•S TH??. T_'sAST RI�rg� gp�n Pi�OJE;CT COi•`i°iITT�u: AIr. L2ngenfeld stated that there �aas nothin� to :eport since i-ir. Paripovi.ch vras abse�i ihis evenin�� but said he did like ihe �oals snd object9.ves. MOTION by Brother Sullivan� seconded by 4Sr. Pet.erson� to table tii� discussion on the F.ast River Hoad Project Comriittee unti.l the next meetin� o£ thi.s Co;nmission. Unon a��oice vote, �11 voting aye, ttie motion carried unanimously. EI,P.CTIOV OF C?iAI.TtPEHS01d AidD VTCB-CHAIRPr°50�: 1•tr. Laneenfeld asked for nominations for chai.rnerson� and said he ti��oul�i be �ril�ing to serve again i.f so elected. Brother Sullivan stated he vrould not have the ti�r.e for either chairpersnn or vice-ehairperson. I•Ir, Peterson said he telt hc did not 2�. ENI�IRONhiIiNTFlL COhSMISSTON MF.L1'ING OF b1l�Y 18, 1976 - PAGE 8 h;�ve tlie ti.me or the experience yet, Uut would rather continue working witlx the Commissi.on. Afr, Cllson read From the ordinance that statec� the members of the Cornmission shall cach year clioose a chairperson and vice-chairperson, and at a�ry time tlie chairperson cannot atte�id a meeting, the vice-chairperson v��ill take his place. I3rother Sullivan rnoninated Mr. Langenfeld fox Chairperson of the Environmental Commission. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, btr. La.igenfeld was reappointed as chairperson. Chairperson Langenfeld sta.ted that he felt the vice-chairperson should Ue more involved in the PZ�nning Commission meetings, He said that if the chairperson cannot make a Plamting Commission meeting, the vice-chairperson must act in his place. Mrs. SPorre nomi.nated Bruce Petexson for vice-chai.rperson, and Mr. Peterson nom- inated Mrs. Sporre for vice-chairi��omen; she declined. A1rs. Sporre asked if it would he appropriate to reappoint Brother Sullivan antil the next meeting when Mr. Paripovi.ch would Ue present, and Chairperson Lanbenfeld suggested tabling the appointment of the vice-chairperson until the neat meeting, A10TIOR' by Bxother Sullivan, seconded by Mrs. Sporre, to table the appointmen� of vi.ce-chairperson utttil the next meeting. Upan a voic� vote, all voting aye, the moti.on carried unanimously. ,� DISCUSSION OP YETITION N0. 8-1976 MOTION by Brother Sulliva.n, seconded by Mr.. Peterson, to receive tlie petition and the Community Develogment comments. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion ca.rried unanimously. The petiti.on xead: We the undersigned request the following street clarification be included i.n the traffic-street plan for tlie year 1976 to include the follo�ving: 1, Preserve the Oalc tree at 275 Tronton Street to uphosl�d the tree ordinance. 2. Vacate Ashton north of Ironton Street. 3. Vacate 83rd including railroad crossing. 4. Cul-de-sac on Ironton Street (see map). Mr. Langenfeld asked Mrs. Sporre what motivation there was behind this petition, and she replied they were having problems in the neighborhood and the petition came about as a result of a neighborhood meeting. Slte stated this was the best solution to the potential problems they might have in the a.rea based on the infor- mation given to them. Chairperson Langenfeld said he liked the statement made Uy htr. Colbert when he said the circulators of this petition were loolcing for a guarantee toward wtiat will happen in the future. Mr. IIoardman offered to expla.in how this aIl came about. He said that when this '' area was Ueing developed, 83rd was planned as a througlt street, from University to East kivcr Road. Ashton Avenue was planned as an industrial road E;'VTi20i1i`iF:3XT/jL !;G`i 1ISS:[Oi! i1�:�TIivG OI' iiAY 13s 147f> - PAGi: 9 �� co�ner�in� tb 83r3 a:�d �'Jt?2. -"isni,or. Sv�r�ze f� �ntc. a}1 {��, t. x�z b�t� �rn f?�iit,on ,�td �ui � �n(;ton ;iort?;ern �'^ilro d � %ii c h � },^ , ;, i.ndu ,{,, , ;1. ��J-1 of i l�e nronr � t,�r i:��;t nf Ashtr�n to ;3?st i�_�.,,�e^ ?��d �_s r�sid:n�,.al. nx�o�e.•tv. �h,: intr,nt of �-r*�.Yii�r, the tr�£fic out oi thr, indusLri.al a:ea is throu^'� 8?rd zrxd 79t.r� and ior thnt rcason ".^7'.%071 ''A.^ S8't U7J %?.i c �U3,t8-^21C� ;�PF'.;t,� glOr�� ::1.':�{1 (3irC�. 271`; 7)'i,!1. i`��T'. i`O".Pr?.T,?:1 ex�lained th�t sta.tie-aid ,tse�ts �sere those c�erelor,�e�u �:��th �tate monir.;, 1'`,1'S• �]:7ni'T'C :�!'.iLi <:I1Q C�l:1i'1�'.; .i�E2_ +.il?t ..t?�c�-�aIlf: ,....> COY`]"'G^.j,s '^CC/'^;�j..!' . .`:llr, l.��f! , }ipmn np 4 rT ,. -.'f; .�lY'�ni',� !i. .';�:1 .'.11.�. . . TO .. °n ,"!'. .. _?'i.. .'�!;R ' 5� ...,^,Cj t.�l!, C-..+- .-v�., ayi,•> f4jffg••(3»CE L . .^^"t . r. 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ID�a�7.'S� b1L '-d1L`�� '�l]� 111C�'S'tr�28� '?p rolpr+'rn.1t -n this �sea e- nin°-=.on ro=.d �n�.st'.�e _��.it zn, TIi, c': �-}7 rc ':`(:Tf? �F�p£i'..i nJ1T1+� 1.I1 t.P^ ��'j".=t�10''i. k.}7° ':'..TS?, t�niT}r_• f.:ini Pp ipA"t 1'1 � 1Q �_ 8 � �� , I�`Ot7tC?S Jt^CE,+ anpll�� ;-inL ?;� Gc?tro1C?T��% '�S ?.Yl 1RC�.7]^.fi^7.21 c�,.. c .. 'hhC' it,i;l`L n-��..� f�.l('1 .'lOL Y.'.:Il� t,t12 t?"Llrl, {I__.�"f'i., n0•"ij]� 'in,':.?1 t1..� ;'�:7'2CL. :'ll1t�2� �,•• D011lty i�'!yT "p�"'-%-�7" ],'�-^_i] S'cl'j.S ,7<.5 �r' .+ 1;F1 CO-�.�Dl;�t10Y1 C'' A,.+.�;i +p ?'? r[f �(�L2�n n� 5_�) ,' 1� l. (C;' L�"P f�Eatructior. Oi H�d:^F.�, (.� �, t.Ti.Cs :1:' JJJI••,n c�,�4 r0j 'F:3L fnn. .,�r.r . ,.r,111� =0?' the vacntion .'`or that na.rc or c�l,,to^. rorti� o= Troncon �tre�+., ;,,,�ic^ 1ead: ie a. �i:TF.!?t t-h3± C102�1"i�'t 2=:15f„ ShC .�c^.la ttl.`� tilr ..:��7ClODr,1.°pi; Oi .l"0?l�Ott `?nti�.c3 '.•3'^:2 dosm tne large oa� tree tha� hercr.�i�hbcrheod *ac�:].d like to nre�rrt». TFT'. �i02.iC�f*f2.Y1 °�37C1. {.F�F,',.r C0113-Cl T]Ct. c`•?.�C +O V?C1.'f,° v!?P 1b��=.Cl };it �';??12t. t.h,��T i�i;L'� ��!'_?-:^.i> 5 .�OL' l.r?S 3 C�.2?'lllC2j".1.G11 O: t.'fl° i07C�. SZ':�.^715 ±O 1.?1i+7_?{'.P Si',^.^",� ��..��_•.�i.7.fiYlc� iat, Si:.1Q' a senaraLe re^.u�st fo^ t*aca.tion ,.rould be ,.erni;s�d zro?� tl:e nropertY o:;!ner, :<lon�; taith the f°es involved. 1�7rs. Sporre said thi.s cvne aUout becaue.e next �;ear the cit;y int�nded to nave Ashton and Ironton, and she could see no sen°e in this. She sho,-red the Cora,niss=_wier:.� on the man :al�ere t�iry co�ild c.lose off the stree±, anc provide eccess and a cul-d�-�ac if the concept of 63rd ti:^� not going to b= continu�3. Air. '3oardman �tated there r;�re <ever.al things they should con�i�'°r. Ne said tnat cul-de-saci�l�; �:as �iot neces�arily the Mo=t appronriate tyoe o£ operatior.. ;{e s^id t.hat b,y cul-de-sacin�; Ironton Street ar. ille�;al me^n� oz turning �;ould be nrovided� and the der,i sion ott the cul-de-sac t•;ould have to come fr�m Cit�r Council. He :,u�rested signs could Ue nrovid�d sr�ying "TIo TrUC':5 Gl7Ot3�d°. He adde,3 t?Zat a cul-de-sac :rould also reouire additional rigY!t-of-:ray accuisition� and because of snoi�r nlo:.*ing the cul-de-sac situation �:as avaided ��;henever possible. hlr. Boardman said that access to the industrial proPcrty on Ironton north of Ashton does Lave to be providedJ but h� ha_d no personal committments cn .ahether it should be vacated or not. 'r7i.th reference to 83rd� he conti.nued� the cit,y does have agreements �:*ith b'urlinr,ton ivorthern Railroad Sor a cros�ing at 83rd and at 79th. He St1tCC� t�1P.S(: ar�recments were w�ly to the point irhere the Rail.road di.d not object to streets crossing at either location, but he ::ould recor��mend a�;ain�t '� .tV1I:i0;d'.`il':i';'1'1i7, COiii'`:CS;IOi� Ifl';E'C7i�G 0:' P�Y �.8r 7.9�1�, � PI1GI; 10 2� �. f_.�;">!? U1. C.T.'O �J:ili�: �t, fi?1'�. 11° P;'�,QfCC" 1-:n p.. •;nn•:1,9u �1(? nn!'. Jf.Ci�. t�i^.T. '.�$.�,t(1 7^. fl. �1�1iZf, �•�tl°. Of �,-Vl'7�,Rr', ".GCFifi^ },.O '�ihE i.11Ci11."j»i��l. DPnpPT'il�f 011 I�.S?';{. 1{�VeP �tiYlC�� )t.1+S ' rl;,dYt�t .r �l :t �.,3: nr�;c��T',� io drvp th� rii;'it �± '::11' 7ust he-:Rtts� t).. cit�- l�z�l ;t. } ,Lpc•C � t,-�� !'F�.Ltj,i?(? ±[) V'3C2t.G i:�18'ti T"lp,�:1,.-O-�-Y.BV UII'tl,� . � CB�'i.P,ll'1 Y'O!d(� . .1.�;('pil ;.1?$ (�C7°7_O''r+!'�. 1'lP• ��'1?-rrj^1521 ..C'.ri.r+(� t',IISf. t}IA qt��;r rj�Pi 1'Inl; }1C11� I'l?�':is-0�..,i,rz.� 'r•:'{: Of� i'.1i0 P?L.LI."E�0;3 ±r�C:i.3 Oh '{�?'Ci.' (`7:.CF.'J� �pT 'S'flr` �l�:t].P.. ('C�7.OII O�1 Oi �� i1�011. 1?r. P,� �,-drar�n e:r.nlained t�:^t Thrrr h��? iaren ac;ne ��lunlr ' mad° ,. �L o4 thn ,�=i�roa�d tY�C.kSr ('i.... !q'i1Ct1 '2E: i;l,R i,.�,i'i=.i1�:..071 Of -�-�.1� �if.]•a,pi �O :�T'd. �3(' :'7�Ci ��r1 14,� ....o !�.Otlr1.."D r7 iC.'.�].,'t D1� '��' ;,°r}L1.°.:;'i. Of OT1P. 01 �T�'1° DT'Op':Y'�_r '��;.2].°.I'is ^_1"1':! i1C *.'(:''f, �}1-.� ER'i �3!-?Sr�a.�D^.t�:"1"i, Of� �OS'? "71t.�,1"'11S ]11 �hl� ':'('^, �%1�1,�G l�'.? b?.�Fr3 nIl 77.-.ib!�';' D7']'tTl-iT!.!' �.Tl�.: ;iOt. tt�'.C:,,.^.n.,7.��v n'.1 ti'i „?-.'11E.'�t O"� Tin�,77.;r+� O,•Il�r� '.°1'Lv�"1 ,.�.1-.^.TGn�n 4n :3:r!'1 (?p � t�e �r^s, .^ide of the rt:ii:o�d 1,,-acks, n., e,:nl-^_ined tr� _dea }:,�r,ir��? t'�at r �o b^OC!1(:n x. .iiiC ?.1C3 ..^O^�l i.,f?1C%1 i30ill� ^n7'T'.C?. 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L'O?1° �7.?!I(' ti�p,T'r ,*�l•;.r ro ...c,� �.�i{,c ;rh(� �:,,.°lti', �':nr� 71F.C�- 2� Y'Oh� i11 +C�S'�. !�2 FX_]�.7.1t1°;� t�'1�^,' 'Y,�?2 ��.EaT. L1rDP Of �lY �L':�,70I1 ,r,�,9771 ,'Ot'.Z.Cj 27° '2:0 il�5i]Yl� :2i1 ''�'l., P.n.8B111°?7t ZOY' c�Skl'i:GYt ,-� �PYIllA 211� ilOt V?C�^,.tP T�_$1'. °QC° <c^:]T. KP. fur:i�e,^ `:tplain c �'�,a� ma,int:A;nir:;^ t'�^ ease,nent d�e- rot, �^�ean th� c�t, ,o,;��: ;��-e {'O L.;f'n'7]C'n n r.i��j k}}n7'Cf 'C�O`•;`.;V'B7.'g lI 1'`. 15 V�C?'L�'.{i 71G'.•r i�"1.'. C,2i 'e:'Cll.t�. I]3V^ ti^ i)i.C�: it up at, a lat�r i:.ime. •rm^,ray. ?�?�s. Snorre �s1�ed if ihe fact. that sl,e ho'a_zht tre bac'r, half oz h.i nei.:,r,'r..or's 1.ot, and i't i:�?s sr;lit, imnl,y t;ha.t tYi� city h� e. to �,ive he; a�ce;s e.ith tt rcad to 1,'.;at . back h�lf. Mr. 3o2xam�s� rer.�iec ,yes, t,h� ci.t�� is ohlig2tF�d +.,o provid.� ar.ce.�� ±:o its residenis. TTtS. �`bDT2'O .25�St't� T•'ll', ,�?02T1�^I_'�.-'2 :d�'l?'t }ln A'f7t, yl^5 t.hFF �;7V1:CQTllT:E-".d±.,il_ :1Pll�;i^i, OT� L}1P.. deve7opmer.t of 83rd, and he replied tl,�, h�-; didn't tl�:ink there :as t�a+; rnuc� imr4ct on tlze de**e7.npmer.i; ol 33rd. He stated tr�ai a?1 i.t t�*�:lcl do i_s p-ro-,�i..gc neop].e -;�:itn the pnssi.bil.ii;,y of spTi.tti.r.g of£ their l.ots to detire7_op residentia.l propert.��. He Surth�r statecl that the poss5.bilit;� oP 83r�! �;aing thrcu;h cou�d not be discourite�, and �omethir�� c�n't be varated t'nat iGn't there. Mrs. Sporre stated that all she v:as sayinr>, i,�as that ii it is dr^�.m on a manJ some- boc3�� •*ill. sa,y "I saG�r a man i=hat said there i.s going �o be a road ", ?nd it t.",at person coL].�3 make a case in court the city has a].read,y mad� a cemmit,tment, to that concept. Sne eaid she thought this ]zas to be clari.f5.ed, anci t'r.at i.s why the petiti.az .ras hcre. hs. 3oardman e�;�lained they had made a commiCtment :in the street ulanning. He saia that f�3T•cl nn the East side of the railraod traelcs is a state-ai.d road, and that stacn� aid d�si�;nati^n commi.ts tlie c5.t•;* +o comp!.ete that acr,ess frnm F,ast River ?Znad to the tiniversity. He slid there Fras a commitim�nt in t,he cit�r's acceptance of state-aid funds for 83rd. He further explained that this corriroittment did include a rai"lraad crossing� but he zaasn't sure if that ,aould be very important; and he a1^o wasn�t sure i.f 83rd on the west side of the railroad tracics would have t}ie capabili.ties of being a state-aid road. hir. Boardman said that if there was another viab].e solution Sor a road pattern or ENVIkCPd;3EPL'CAT, L'0"!!��fISSION I�iE'!;TI1dG �k�' P�?,nY 18s 197�� -}'hl1C 1]- ��-`,� road devcl.on;n�;�tg then ih ;i. �ooutd br� i;he way thc=y shou]c' r,a; i�io:•re•:er, h�= didn't �rpCl t��E' P]s,ht Of �dRqS .^-.hnn13 ti)-. z�lYr;il ll7). i?P pt`i{,pn�{,.od t,�:�.t, �llr�T'� c••2� ri0 S�IIS(? lll �].Vlilf� 11T: '�)hE P12}lt Of v?.,J .l.{, L�if, rj��r rni�}�+ h.^..irC t,0 ,�",O hq!`�; ^'l�i �;Al:v 7.1', 8};c.i?l. I•irs. ;pnrre ,�^i.d �hF �,,e,:��l iike t,o h.+ve che nronert,y orr.�xs come ;n ;n? ;a]k to the Y'nPineera•i� Depar��rar:nt� Und Y'elt '.,h�t ��re}� a sotution cou].d b� t�uae!ied. htr. Langenfeld as',�ed if it co�a]dn�t b� cor,ce-�s.ble i,hn� i,�a cro��nrty sout.h pf 8"�'Y`!j {{�11C71 7.5 ?.0;7<'� in�3:iscrial Cn,�ulf'1 T°T!l3?'1 +t�'ii. � 2ti IO7' 'l �"17 �C �� _:l:i D`% f,!18 .^.^i1@ tb�C.^-_IIJ ^O'JZ(� S': OCr.S!T)1B� V°!'n' SO,"'/. �:J'. 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Langenf?ld s`i,at,ed that st t?�i� point, the,y }:n�*.:* ihat a. road =ou�.d Ue proros�d, an� a�ked if a. read t•;as oropos°d cotzld I°;rs. Spnrre or �nycne els° ccncern�d t!:��n voice t,heir objection, i�i�. �o�.r�man replied thry could a° there tsould be hear.i.nos, fiirs, Snorre �aid that �:a° °::actlr ,;h-r t:�e=,� had cor?._ in r_oi-r, .s the ver;; £a.ct that the line is dra;:m o.*� t?i� map mez.*�s peoo7.e iaill dra;•� li.tL1� scuar�s� ;;nd as ZOI7_2,�35 'ti1(:',l'P, d;•eY'2 �.l"��.P. ¢r�.13?'f?3 OR the I�IE:.A +j-_;' Cit`: ?.qC�l7�(� �'I-=3V�� tl) n�•,rp, ;hc7r� acc�ss, i'•�r. L;naen?'eld thee asked i° it ,�as trun ;ha� rirs. Sprrre i:*�s r.ondu�tin; a he�ring on a proposed read that �:�zsn't rea7.ly prorosecl. 1�r. Bo'r�m:n eXn].ai.nea j:}?c?, O.'.1 t';1^ Cl'�' ^1:.^°E,t Ifl3:lr T!?Vlsp� _i'.;U'.T^✓ rr it;fir� i'; C?(`P.`; lY�C).1C�U^ ? rUtli,.� propo^ed ro?d b)> the hatc?:ing marks, He state,d tnat iS thi� �,.as ^n•^ of ?�?rs. Spo^re�s concerns, it could bA ta_ken ofi the man, The other point, he con�in,ied, is tliat there is alresd,y sanitar,y se.;er and i.ater in tnzt area so it .eot:ld be a verv natural. route for future 3�ve]opment, He stated he z�:ould ts7k to llick Soh`�ich to have it changed from "proposed road" to '"public read no� open to tr�:f£ic", Mr. Langenfeld - stat.ed he ;aould like to see the F�vironmental Cor.uni=sion fnrmulate so�tte kind of recorlmer.da.tion to the Planning Coruni.ssion en this. N,c said he tended to favor ^tipulations l, )a� 6 ar:d 7 as menti.oned in the �ninutc.s of the Communi.tY Develonment meeting of I�fay 11; and he persona7.ly ��ras not in iavor of cul-de-sacs as backinf up �rith plo:ts +.•ras a consideration. He also to�d Mrs, Sporre that nutting himself in her Plar.e, he felt .rhe was �o�.n? ±.o Find more prablems �aith vrhat she :•�as starting thas she had norr as the;l orere establishin�; °the ° taay. �.��rr�r.a��r^ ,a��;,i ��.i:z �srf,r „��;r��r�,r, ot� ,�Tai� ?8� �9'z6 _ t"��r �? �8 �.trs. Sunrrr. �:aid t,hr,t I�-hr rz�if;hLt�rho�� s ;>�?�', eno,igh t,o !mo�,� tahat 'the� �;�.x��i,eri, �,n�' �rl�l�:�i t��i�.t. ��ul-dn_ � Fa_11Ad real n�,r�l, =nr crnmnuni-ties. Z�(�7'.1�ii'j hj i`?"`S, �D07'3'E; 't�.�`, $Ytr' II�r:?7'OT?I'if-rIl"t1� (`i.V37.;S101'1 OOr1Ci1P �i11.�1 %t1? }�P,t.1.�1OT18T5 �.c t"e�.r nl.=n a.d the; �casi, rnvircn�ae;Zt;aJ.�?mn+�,ci oi' a11 t'ne �.1.ternai�vFS. 7'he r�o':;ion di.^ci i'or 12c'c Of' 2::er.ond. ['ir. P�t�r�;�n ;-ri. rr�,i tn ii.art 3 on tiae _r,Fi;i-ti�r. �n� ��.d hr. r,lt tt:^ � ir:?�+, o.':' sh�v7.d n�, Y�:�: gi�r�n �r a; i.taey d.i.diz�t !m^, ,<h^t •.s �;oin-� t� h•a,�prn in the f'1:i.7?'3o i.� t>�;:^I'^5t;•;� i_L ^O+rl[t }1F: v?,C�::�ep' . �. 1 `,-. 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Sporre ?f VirRinia''�!:lb�rr ?�^d [;otten �.7 to��c," ..".t,tl ':SC'T' Tnt,'T,?T'C)].7'1^ �"1C?' St.S]'tf,':�72P_t. lil 'ti'-, 1:'.1')�lti'S (>.� ii,l'.C' }�ttV1T0'1`'":�.'17t�:1 �.OR?4_^.P.lOT1 nter,tinri oi t?erch 23 rrherr-, shn. '�-d �tated si:r felt �c•b ?'etersnnt y;,'�;ni. ":'h-^�rt; and IIut,ch 3�r,;:1.�n d.5.:, not �:an� i.he trali.':ic co �in� throu.�h tne;_' neir{hbor:�oor: s the,y- irz1 � thr Fmrironraent�7. 2emriission �:;as '.:°ain^ to siop traffic on the .iver Road. ?ir, L^,n�enfel.d nXDlained th�t +'�cy *.rer� a biC c�n'ased as to *.!?�at i'•rs. ,ci�qTT'0 ^Ctill,^:].1•f 1T1t�,TIL 'J^-C'?llS^ t�'`P':? �?.Ci71�t. f�('£?]_ t..rE4' F:C'.1'E: CO)'7,f' �'^l:' i.n;1+ '. _• ...... �DO?'Y'C' , � i(1, ,^,�I-? .. _ r.�3:7 + � iC(?O'r7 j:�1.".:� �.110 ?.:{;1B'? f�'31i . }'i :'^il;-:� }l •r;. rr�t{ tnem �,rong. ^She t.old I�'.r. L.:n^enicl.d c;".e t�ras n,lad h° haci told t;�r �r;t, AllJt�U?i;, �'isZi`1' : Chairperson Lange�ifeld adjourned the meeting at 11:20 p.m. Respectf'ully submitted� �� .� ' `!�!- C4'• ' �._._ Shcrri 0'Donnel_ Her,ordi.nrc Serrotnry 30 • FRIliLEY APFi;1,LS COPII4I;S :'ZQN N�;ETING MAY 25, 19?6 MET;BERS PRESEf7T: Pat Gabel, Aler. L<arna, Dick Kc:nper r1EMR�RS ABSENT: Virginia Flahlberg, Jim Plem�l OTIIERS PR�SEtJT: Ron Flolden, Duildi^g Inspeci:ion O�fice^ The meeting was called to order by Acting Chairperson Gabel at 7:36 P.T7. APPKOVAL OF i3AY ll, 1976 APPLALS CO'�II�4SSSION `�1TNII'PES: Mr. Holden said thaE on page 12, ur,der °C"� ��ac�it lots s?�ouid be cha_n�ed to developed lots. N10'PION by Bsrna, seconded by Kemper� to approee the minu�es oY tl,e I;ay 17, 1°76 Appeals Commission meetin� as corrected. Upon 4 voice votc, all voti�;g a,�e� the motion carri_ed unanimously. �A REQUrST FOR A VARIANCF. OF THE FRIDLBY CZTY C(i'iB AS FOLLOi•;S: SF.CTION 205.0$3, �a�� ^t0 RE7ilJCE THF; NrOTvT Yf�RD �::i'3ACK FRi)ti THE REQIIIl?ED 35 FE��T 20 31.6 �'FF.`P APPP�OXSrSHTF;LY (P!0 SU�V�;]` AVAILi+P�I�E AT LHZS TI1�E) TO ALi,t)'�: THR CONSTiiUCTIOfi 0�' AN A3`1'ACHED GAftAG: 7'0 B: LCC:iT.T:; Oid LOT ln� BLOCK 2a :."�:AT:STROi:j COURT AAllIT1:Ci�I� T�?n SAi;; BELv'G 134'� - 53RD AVs;t:[i° N.E.� FR1DI,:.Y� I�'.INisT. (R�'.Q�JEST BY MR. RAY PRI'sSTENON, 1391 - 53�D AVE'itiE N.E., FRIDLEY, YSid.% P;0'1'ION by Barna� seconded by ftemperj to open the public he2ri.ng. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion car_ied un��i�mously. AD:�ISNiS^1: ':mTVr S`P,,:'F Rk'PCP^i A. PUBLIC PL'i FOSE S�;�VED BY RE�`JI�tL:•i?�;;?T: Seci9on 205.053� 1:F.9 £ront yard cetback ot 35 f'ee"t. Public purpose served by this scct:ion is to allow for o:f-street. parking xithout encroaching on the public right of iray. 1iz:ot.�er n�,�rpose is the aesthetic considerat•ion of the neig'r,borhooc! to reduce the "buildiz.g lir.e of sight° encroacr;ment into the neigh6or's 1'ront yard. H. STATED IIAfiDSHIP: Lot drops oPf to the rear ccnd exira fill would be very costly. Existing oil company e�sement prohibits lowering of front yard grade. C. Allr1INI�TRA'PIVE S^1kr`r' F?EVIE?d: SGaff ineasure�r:ents show that the existing house at 1391 53rd Avenue N,E. is set back 35.5 feet from Lhe front. property lire, • as arc; most of the hauses in tiie blocY, The. exception is an attacned garage at 13G� `>3rd Avenue 2J.B. which is the fir�t house Y.'cst of the property in question. 'Phis g:u•a�e is set back 31.G feet fi-om the front pr�operiy line� ;3�ItT1)LF,Y APPEAI.5 COij'tISSTON M:ETING OF MAY ?�� 1976 - PAGF, 2 the svne setback as requested b5� the petitioner, There is presently >0.5 feet • from the house at 1391 53rd Avenue N.E, to the curb, Con;tructin�; an attached garage on 1:his property zs comp]icate@ by an oil compan,Y easement in the frunt yard wi�ich requires minimum ground cover for the oil li.ne on the easement. Normal cutLing of the hill in th� front yard yie2din� f'ill f'or Lhe loiaer garage area is not permissible in this ease. Fi.11. xi71 have to be brougnt in. An alternate, thouoh more expensive, would be to add a,torage area under the garage, Uy installing a reinfarced prestressed concrete floor in the gara�e. 'Phis would elimi.natc the neeci for £ill, b:rt would cost r�pre than the fi.].1 reeded. Ancther possible alternate saould be to negatiate wi.th the oil cornpany to i_nsu7.ate over tne line i.n exchange for removing some i'i1L 5ta£f has no objection o2' this variance request b�ing grantied. Mr. Yrestenon was at ihe meetin� to preseni his request. 3ie showed the Cor:..'ission a sketch of' hi:> let �:ith tne proposed ��ra�;e and pointed out on photograph; where the Standard Oil Easement �,as. Acting Chairperson Uabe! asked hovr many !'eet he crcald be froT the neS.e!�bi�r to the easi., and Y`r. Prestenon replied they 'r.ad just bought the vacated lot to tr,e east from the City of 1'ridlay so tt�-r,y could build the �arage, i?e sta#.ed theY cc�uld not buzld on t,hirt.y i'er�t o2' the vacated px•o��erty so the,v trouldn't 'oe clase enou�h to the nei�;hbor to bother him, ana added that he had t,alked to his ncii;hboz•:, snci tney had no ob,jections as their gar.ages were for�;ard tkie same a�nonnt that tie �.aas request7n.^. Mr, Prestenon said they had cor.sidered ir.stal'ling a reinforced prestressed cvnerete � floors but it :aould be too costly, and iie rea?ized they coi�ld not take fill ofF the Standas•d Oii eas�nien*,. Mr�. Barna asked if' Mr. Prest.enon had contiact��d tiae � oil cc:,F*an,y about the posslbility o£ insulating� and t9r. Prc:stenon replie�i ne thoughP the �ill �:�ul_d be cheapc;r. P;r. Ito�den sai.d that he had called the oil comoany and thev preferred ;jus't, having ihe dirt tnere. NUTIUN by Kemper' seconded by Sarna, to close the puhlic hearir:g. Upcn a tiroice vote� all voting aye, tne moticn carri.ed ut;animousJy. Mr, t.empez• stated that t��ere i�res �: reascnable hardship and there �a�s at least one other home in Lhe area that had the sarne setback� r�;nd there was ample orf-s�reet parlcinf;. i�ir. H�:a�Tia said that he had driver. dow-n tne street and it appeared tl�e setback would fit in. hiOTlUiu by Kemper, seconded by t�arna, to approve the request £or variance. Uporz a voice vote, all voting aye� the motaon carrzed unanimously. 2, A HEQuFwT r'OR A tiAtt.lA�uCJ3 Or' ThA: rR1D;,EY CITY CUDF. AS A'UI.LUWS: SEC'1'lON 205.053, Lk�, TU kM,llUC� 7'Nli S1U�; YAttD SliT�ACK Al]dOlN1NU LiVlrvu AREA, }�ftOM THE RE!?UI$� 10 FF;i�P TO 3 FEET� TO I�LLOG? AN ADDITTON TO IIE COVSTRUCTED TO AN EXIS'PI.dG NON-CONr"O.tt?IP�G D�^TL;LLING LOCA'Pi,� ON THG SOUTH 20 SEGT OF LOT $, AidD AJ;L OF Lp'1' 6� B1,�Ci; 3, 1(AidIJ.TOtd'S ADDITION TU MECHAtvIC5VIliLE� TH� Sr1,iG: BEING ri628-STH � ST'RELT t�I,I:.� FH.iDLEY, MINN. 551�21, (REQUiST BY r:RS. PAT DUPAY� �618 57'H STREI:T N.E.} F'RIDLliY, MIT�A'F,SOT.1 �5�t21.) 32 FRIDLE;Y APPEkTr COu"!?SSIO"I MEETt"JU OF MAY 25, 197b - PAGE 3 •PiDTI02d by Earna� seconded by i{emaer' to op�n t.?�e Public hearing. Upon a voice vote, a11 votinE; aye, the motion crirried unanitaously. kDbfIt�l:>TRATIVr �TAFr REPORT A. PUBLIC PllRPOSE SERVc.D BY REQUIRF��IENT: Section 205.053, i�B� 10 foot side yard adjoining livin� area. Publi.c purpose served i.s to maintain a minimum of 20 feet between living areas in adjoi.ning structures and 1� feet betw�;en garages and living areas in adjoir�- in� structures and to reduce ezposu:e io conflagratian o? fire beti:�een sir<zctures and to allow for aestheticaliy pleasir.g apen areas arcund residential siructares. II. STATED HARDSHIP: Family requests extension o� existing kitchen for more living area. C. ADM1iJ.i5`I'RtrTS�7E S`irri'r' Ri;JI�'ri: Ti,e v�rifyi:�b survey in t:.e Sile �;o�:rs t:: t, t�e house at �G18 - Sth Street 1:.L. i^ locaied less than 10 feet frem the co�:raon property line to t.he south� wnich would �=al�e this house azi existinn non- con£orming use, t'erifyin; surve,ys indicaie a 5.6' seiback Pron: 5G7.H - 5th Street to the souin property line, anZ a 4.2' setback irom the �arege at �61tt - St,h Streei tu the nort.h prcoerty lir.e. Fie)fl measurements bv the staff shoti:* 'the distsance bet�aeen these t;,�o st.ructures aid a ce;a��on lir.e to b� a total of 7,5' which is 2.3� less thax, the verii'yin� survF:y dis�e.nces of 9.8 feet. Ln other words, a disc.r�panc,v in the surveys esist. Tnc peiitioner has subniiited a mortga;;e surv�y xhich do�sn�t corres;?cnd to t'n� • registered la�id snrvey f'or the sa:�te lot, ii�e registered land scrve� would have to be considered the mere valid oi tiYie two. Therefore3 u:e have a request for a variance of 3 feet which covr,rs +,he least posc>ib:Le dist.ance o£ ',:he }:euse to tlie p: operty 3.ine whicY,�ver : urve�r is being used. I£ this variance is app:oved� staff rece �aend; that there be no opcning i�i the south �,�all� and that it be a fire:c211. p;r, Edr:ard llu�za3� ap,�i�o�ched the Hoard and sno-:.ed them photo�raphs of ?�is hou,e and Iot. fle s•a:id tha� between t:ne surveys tnere v;ere discrepencies in the size of the liou:e, =.ahere tkie heuse sits or. ihe lot, etc. A1r. Holden stated +i�at i.n that area t.};ere has been a discreF:enc;� in snrveys, and whe.7 this siirvE,y iaas issued it was measured Srom the r.orth �howin�; i,:ao d�scrept-ncies on the lot line. He said tiiat the house cra� either 5.6 or 3.6 feci from the lot line, and he tt,.cu�,hL that u�e of the land in ttie area would dictate a line somewhere ir. that area. t�ir. Dupay said he had considered shifting th� addition over 3' �o get 9' bet;:een the garage and the. house, but the kitct,en ar,d bedrooin ��;in3ows would he lost.. Y:e then decided he could �;o off the front of the house malcin� it look lilce an °L" shape, and this wou2d 'ue more aest;:�ticall;f pleasing. ASrs. GaUel sc:id tha.t if he wanted to do t?iat he iaould need a nek* request for variance for the 1'ront va�d, Mr. Dupa,y explained he would be out of Lom-n in troro weeks, and 2•1rs. GaUel to1d. him �i�is wiie could bc present at that m�et:Ln�;, �iia t.old hirn that rai,}x:r tl�an acS, on this they could table ii and he caLld decide exactlY wh�t it zaas he? wunt.ed9 ar.d added that it would be necessary to send oiit a formal notice, i;r. Ilolden sai_ci that they wou].d have to clean np the bookwork hith ihe non-conforming side yard, also, 33F'I?TDLEY APF'i':ALS COM.^1I>5SOId MFETINt'r OF PtAY 2�� 1976 - PAG� Ii h10TI0N hv Kemper, seconded Uy Barna, to table Che request for variance unti.l the next Appeals Commission meetin�. Upon a voice Gote� a21 voting a,ye, thc motion . car.^ied unanir,rously. 3, A R� ��Ur.ST h'OF? A VAHIAivCis OF TII� FRIDLrY CITY CODE AS FOLLOG7S: :iL;CT1GN 20>,0�3� :18� TU RT:DUC� THF SIDE YARA ADd0Ii1SNU LIVZiJG ARL''A PROPR T!3E REQuiHED SFTBAC'{, OF 20 Fi�.liT TO 5 F; liT� TO AliLO.^7 TA� COI15TItUCTIUN OF A[iOUSF Ar;D � GkH�GE 9'0 BE LOCATED ON I,0`PS 39 AND LtO� B1,OGh 5� SPRING PRDOK ADDI'P70Ns TH�!: SAI•iL BE:TIJG 160 LItiBR'I"{ S`I'i�EEi N.E.� FRIbLk.'Y9 tF•fd. 551y32. (PEQllPST BY rR. LA"v��itliNCE A. SCi�I•tIT1� li057 ';lASitIt�GTOTd STR��T ti.E.� ]�iTPJN«14POLIS, MN. �51a2L.; Ii0T1C�t b,y Barna, secoaded by Kemp°r' to open the public hearinp. Upon a voice vote, a.7.1 tirot.ing aye� i,hc; motion cerried imani.rriously. tLDh1INI5TRl1TIV$ ST,if�F R�POI2T A. PUiSLIC PURPOSE S"r:RV31D BY REQUIFE.t�iEP1T: Section 205.073� 1aA� si.de yard set-oack of 1D feet. fizblic purpose served by this section is i� maint2in a mini�:tim of �0 �eet between living area° in adjoinin� s�t^ucY-nr�s and 15 S'eet betcre�si �;arages an��i livin_p, �r•aas i-n adjoining struct•�ares to: l. Reduce exposur� to cor.flagrai:ius7. oi' iir� bet;c��een structuress a:�d 2. To e�11ow for on•�n area:a arour.:: �-e:side±:ti al struct.ur�:s to maintain aesttietica:lly plca�ir_g surrotmdin�s. B. S1^ATiID H�1?llSIiIP: Si�e oP propos?d house doesn't al.lo:�r for 5 ioot :i�zd 10 � fovt se�tbac)ss, C. I�tiICdTST:t�.'PI4E STArF' I?EVIE.'Y7: 160 Li.hert•,v is com�ri.sed of t;czo a0 fo�at, Iots �1d 3.s bordereci on the .�lest by a house eorestructed ox. t�ro s�rr5.lar 30 iooti lots. Our 1'ile, shox the nwner oi' the tiao lats at 160 i,iber:�,y a.nd ih.°. tro:o 30 Soo't lot.s tc tlie Eae�1: to b�� 5&�' 12ea7i;y Company In as rriuch as �everel other 60 foot. Iots �xe be�_rag ��uz2t on in Fridley� �.=�z�tP:nut variances to side yar3 setbar_r.s� the S't.aff £eels a�h��_t a housc cou]d be designed eit.he.r, rrith an att�ched o: de�t�ached gfiragr� to eom�,ly with th^ Code. Actin�; Chairperson C,abel remi:-�aed tl�e Commission th�t this request: f'�r vari2J7cse h3d been tahled from t.h; ir last nc�e'�ng so i,hat rir, arid iirs. Schmitz cotild dF�cide i£ Ltzey wecld lilce thcii• house az�y othar u�a,y on ttaP lot. Mr, and i•?rs, Larry Schmitz apgroached the Bcard, Pnd Mrs. Schmitz, stated they rrould eit,her have to lose half the garage or ha-re the fron� door £�ciKi{, ttie faca.v_r,y. She explained tiiat on the lot the drivewa,y was by the fa<;tory h�hich r�zeant the ga.r�ge would have to .fece tl�at kaay, She shoioed thr� Corroni ssion wher. e. the curve for the drivcway was on a photographp and ,aid the rooms could be rea.rran�ed bt.t the i'rant doox• would h:ive to f�ce the factory, h?r. Hcldcn suggested deps•essed curbing might be a solut:ior,. Dirs. G�bel asked i_f it woul,d be expensive to muve the curbing for the drivew:,,y, and Mr. 1tolden replied it wnuld be at leas� a couple hw;ci;ed dol.lars, N.r;, Gabel snid at the last meet:'tnr the,y had ta7.k:ed about turning the house {:hc lon�; way on the lot� �z;d t;rs. Scl;mitz said she; didn�t like {.hat idea n, it would be the only sideways house on ihe blcck. tfu�s. Gtibel said when they had talked aUo�it FHIDL}sY AYPIi,4I,S CU*4*ilSSTON t7EETIhG OF MAY 25, 197b - PAGL 5 �4 �turning it around they had tallred ahnLtt deinr; it so the bedrooms would be to the factory szde� ar.d Mss. Schrnit� said {:hen the froni; door Hrould be facin� t?tat c�2y also. 1irs. Gabel asl:ed i£ the,y then werc requesting the original layout of the house� and Mrs. Schmit� said tney i;ere. iRrs. Schmitz said they had t•a].ked to the police about the on-street parking problem, and the,y had said tt:ey couldn�t do anytnin�; about it, i•tr. Holden stated that the Tactor,y� was in thc process ci' buildin� a parkine lot� v-id it would be done in about � month an3 a half. i•3r. Barna asked if the £ive £oot setbacl: wculd be on the living area side� and A�rs. Schmitz replied it was. i;r, Holden asked if ihe garage z:culd be on the factery :;ide� and I�.rs, Schnitz ar.stirered it rrould. TSrs. Gabel questioned if an�� o£ the nt:iE;hbor� objecied� and i�irs. Sc�v,�itz said there xere no objeciions. T,OTIUti by Barna, secor.ded b�a hemper� to closs thA public hearing. U�n a voice vot�, all votin� aye� t.ie tnotion carried nn�. ��uu.^>ly. 1�Sr. Kemper stated th^t in his opinicn the peeplc had a problem in thaL t.h°y cont^acted for a house� and they hsd a lot, and thEf eroul.d like tc ruL ti-:e. hcuse on t?:e lot. Fie ;aid i£ �he vari�ice �•;as not gr�n'ted thc Sci�niiz� ��euld have a prahle^i i�rith the cont.ract they had �:it'ti 7'i�,ry�ood tfinneso�a� and s�nce tP:° hareiship was a vri.Lid one he :�as so incl:_ned to a�:^ee :�it,n th�rn. Tirs. Gabe1 as}:ed if thex�e �:�as enough rcom b�t•,.*ee,^. livin� spaces, and ,';^. Holden � said there hould be, t"r, t3a::,a sta'ced h� had no objerj;ions. MOT10� U,y Kemper} seconded b;� B??�na, to g^:�:�t t!ie request for var;ance. U,r,on a voice vot,e� all votir.g aye, the m.otie:i carrieu ur.znimously. �. A RII�ii��T FOR A VF�t?L 2�,E OL' t iT' t'RI�ITY C.T.1° CCT' ks F'CI..TR.C'�'S '{ M /� :'S'i � u �•i�� J �: �.vl� ��CI'I T�� I 'u�VAp+�1J �.� F::il SECTIG�� °0;.'_0,, ),e<, i�, r ;;,� 1� �� - � TO FIVi. I!;ET� T� A} LO + T_t ; CC Si �C°'�u � 0 A Ci� , e2?LTk1, Gr?r�,� �i� st Ifl�,=.. � G: THh: E.h:iT 200 I'e.�.l' Or LOT �� F/C.;i: 7h t�;"_'., 16� rE..: � bi-0C-{ ?� E2,'^ ii rCi� L�Tx7'_' �. . . i r. 'i y A. i0� �, F� LtiTJ:. r� i'Z1:iJ• Ji�li2. sr.co„� nLnl��lc �, 7� u��,.- �� a 77c� �,� � s�i v� � (1ic;(;LiES`P BY 3:..t:.ohDY '"t �.�,IiS.,SCti� 97�,� r•��:_30LDT A1'?�:VU„ SOt37,i� ri�O��;SS�.t.i�>;S� AiPa.) T;09'�Of: hv Barna, seconded by Kemper, to epen thr, public riea:in�. Upor. a voice vote, a11 votin> aye� t.Le motiau carri.ed unaninoualy. AD',=SL^JTii'i:r;`Pl'JE ST1:Fi� ttEPORT A. FU�T,IC PL'HFfl5E SERVFD itY nEQUI�'r11':P�T: Section 20�.103� �:3, `�� Ya="��- ��t��cY. of 15 feet. Public purpo�e served bv this ser,tion is to maintain aesthetic open areas� and provid•a �;reen divider areas h:>t::cen ce�*cnercial and indusGrial structur�s. A cecaridary purpo;e is to provide access to the rear oP t?:e build�nF; expeciall�✓ in the ca�e of fire. • B, STATc":D HARA�IITP; 'fo allow sufi'icient drive eritreu!ce area ori south side maia entrance to �arage. � FRI➢L�:Y APPEAtS COt3AII55I0N M}:ETET;G OF MAY ?!i� 1976 - PAGE b 3�" C. ADi7IP�1STi3.4TIVE S'PI�FF REVI73SJ: The petiti_on�:r has requested to ma.intain the size: of i�is bui7d;ng 3nd ;iii.;'t it to tLe r.orth. Apparently thi.s vari�nce is . requested in ord�r t.o allow adequate rn-aaeuveri.ng on Lhe south side of the building. Staff ieels thaL the petit.ioner has £ai:Led to shotir a true hard�hip. Phe prob?.em cotzld be solved by; l, reduci.ng the size of the building� or, 2. purchA.sing addi'tion�l land ('L0� on south), Staff fee2s that any and aIl avenuc; of soiution to the problem sheuld be pursued before �ranting this vari�nce. Mrs. Gabel stated 1:na�t thi�s item had core before tYie Y�annine Commission meetin� of P4ay 19 as L}:ere �r4� a x�equest £or a special use perr;it �aich was appro�aed with thc sti.l:�ulaii�n that if a re� r road ti•ras pui in it t�rould require the trar.::miss5.cn shoo to rr�z', in a 20' green area on their proverty, St:e added that ti�ere :oas <in app:avci]. for a lot splii iaith two stipulaticas; that the street dedication Ue vacated to 50� and that the city �,rohi�it permanent construci;ion on the west side of tlte prupert3�. ?:^. Jon Petersen and �i_*•. SchroE�r �aere ai; tti: r:i2etino to present tne request. They pointed out on tYie st,rvey �.anere th^ � varir,nce would be r.eeded. Ihr. Peterson ex�,lair�ed the buildi;ig, was rianrxed �rit�i orie yarage doar ai� th� side and just t-he custc*�er doo� in i:hL fro�� fer a.evthetic }iu*_'poses. He said tk�iev t�rere r.ski.ng to move the buildi.ng un to five ic=4t S'rom the pronerty linc: on the north �.t7 order to mir�9.mize �,ot:�etia7_ 3;i�;i:�� con;�ec�'r,ion on the sauth si.de by the one dncr, ile adde�i tha:, the back =.�*as strictly a loading door ior the tru.ck �ick-up servia�r pzr•t� receivinE;� etc. Nr, .I, r„ Echoin oi C�gp TIoaies was �resen{�.� aaid a.ked aoout the customer parl-i=;g. � Rfr. Fetersen ar.:;r,._�:ed that r�hut :ix�tcmer parr.i: �; irould bp necess•ary c.ro�,ld b^ :ii� £ront. T-;r. Sctx �ic aslced i.f eny ear� to l�� repazred woul,i be in th.is ar�;a, �u.d t�?r. Pe".er��o:� se.id ��esp and b:��Pa cxp7�'neu i��hr�e tne greer area sxa b7zekta,��°.d ?I'c°.fl .:/'�il.�-Q. Y)'. 1�'�l'. vf'.i7C`,�17 �.S�t;G�. }t047 1"I'u'l�r C^.".^-. t.71FV :,'OUl.d SE?�?I.CC} ?J:li� i'ji':ie �id.OE'.L said it �ac��ld•serti.ce i'iity^to seve.:c,y c�x� a wee;c. A;:< Sr,hoin s�id that thF�n ears ��.c�z7.d lia ��,,,kec? out on �t '�ast a t.weisr� nour o�,is, �:nd 2-2i•. �et,er�on r��p'_ied that ir<�z ��is,�t be hatl sen_n �l c�� didn't let� �tl�i�m �it out for ver,yr ��ng. ?],•. Schuin aslce;d abotiiti outsi.ds; storage� and fir. Petcrs�n said the diampsters t:ere alv?ays ic�r.t insidc. FSr. iio�ld�r� a�ked if icr some reason the 9,000 sc�uare fest �•ras a n!agic figure� �a�id Mz^. Peterson � ep' � ed :it caa.s ehos�,� f'or po'teriti �l baseci o:i vrii�i• t��e}� �;��ni�;d �tn do in this areea. Nt? str�>ted ih�iz� B:�uomin�t�on buildino �zas d7ubles but that was thr�ir home o*:'!:;.ce. He explail�ed tl�:a.t the �ara�i: ^_'ea sho.rn he:e �-ras very irrach li?:e: t;;��L in Bloo-ii�z�;tcn. Mr. Iiolden anred <ibout the road in back, and i7rs. Gabcl said the 1.and �aas al'.l platted o�at cmd tiiere tiaas i.he 7,�ossinilit,y o: iridiastry goin� in ihere. Siie s�tated there wa� presentl�r a?_0� easement that h«d beeri retained from Capp He�:;�es, thc Panaaice Hou �e� etc�� an<! would be retained frem Kenned,y, She said there �aould have to b� more ro�dirav if inciustr,� uc,r� to t�o in bei;ind, I�ir, liolden su�;�;ested i£ thc xo_�d r:cre Co shil"t it migiit be possiUle to.pick up another ten £eet of lsnd and ehrn:riate �he� varinnce. Nr. Peterson said he oras noti sure tl;ey could r,et t�n feet of salable land �s they taould r�uz out o.f roorn goin{; toward the existing bai3.di:��;s. • FRIDLEY APYBr1LS COh49SSSI6id b1P.�'.`iIi7G OF NiAY 25� 1976 — P�UE i 36 �Mr. Holden said that it had bee�� m�riti.oned G� him in working up the Staff Iteport that a po:sible alternative r.*ould be pickin� up the ten feet, and Air. Schr��er stated he ciidn't see where it could be pi.cked up. Dfr. Peter;on said that Kenned;� was concerned for Capp Homes, and that they could have laid out the drivei-:a;r so it iras on both �ides but tiiey �aanted it ati:a,y from Capp i3ruaes :o it would be more asetheticall.y pleasing and are also trying to keep the traf.'fic sway fron them. Mrs. Gabel ast�ed if th� 9,0�0 square feet F:as their space reouirzc�ent, ana 1ir, Peterson said yes, it ti.*as their best plan. He said t!:at orig:nnlly they vrere hopin� to nave, a huil3ing with a phase 2 plan t•iiat an ad'ui;.icn could be put on in the future, but 9,�� %�as top a�d that t•ras iahere they rranted it. l-.r. I{fs:nper askF�d Fi^. Sciiroer �chai. h;_s positi.on was on this� and Y•:r. Schroe: replied he had no objecti.on to �?:�- plan. TSr. Schoin stated he di.dn't see ho�.a n!ovinE; that amount of c�rs c.c::ld c�:��c ��'^.+ much cor.gestion, and A;r. t'et�r�cn said he thcu�;ht that i:�> the unFno�.�n t?-:F`� '...e.'e trying to avoid. h:r. ]3arna said t:^.a� �e�:eci ears vrou7o nee.d more spaec� c��d Is. Feterson said ihat �:as a good e�arnple of so*��ie o£ �the. tt�in�s tae�r �.ex� tr�ri.^.;, �o anticipate. He stat.ed it kould '+e the!a more elbow room ;aith tiie :i.east a��oant, g��- oi conrestion. I✓ir. Schoin again stat.ed he was conce.rned 2.bout the cont;e�tion •ar;d stated i:e :�«d a probl�m on Sundays with people comisi� in� ��d this 1«�:�]c �-i�c 7i � 1>uxc.c'. '_s� � £eeli.rii., i•�r. :iChrp�^ said C.i�t as t?�et area d°ve.lons there wo�.�c? o lot r�re congestic�n, and �Srs. Gahel ancad '�cat t-*as �L'ae raason for tl c z��.� Ea.,e:,r �nt . Mr. Peter:;on said t:ha; i,he proble:� in red�:ci^� t'rie si;se or the build:in^ ;�;=s ±i,at economical.l,y it rould be a Lard:'r,ip in buyir.g tnat r�uch land �nd onl.;,� havin;; a small building. MOTIOI4 l�y Remner� seconded b�= Sarna, to c.'.ose ihe pub]ic hearing. Upon u voice vote � all voting a;; e, the motion carrie : uzienirnousl,y. PSr. ]:^,rna asked if thi:; si�ould �;o i.o tne Cit•Y Coimcil� �Zd P:rs. Gabel s,.;.d 1.h^t. it ��ou1d. He s'cated that he t:aonghi a tr<s:srnissior� shop �..oulci fit in �:�tli tt�ie area? and he had onl�- minir�al objection�. 14rs. Gabel �aid t:h2t with referen^e to :t.af'f's recomm2ndation=, the ien Peet was reallv net there and t.here£ors net i:orkabl�-, iir. I�e,�per asked if �t.•�if felt strc�n�l,y re�;arding the last senienee no��r tha.t thE� t^n faet was nci a�*aila�le. Mr. Holden an �wered tiiat he tl�ou,r,l.t thc pl:u's,er� £elt t.liat every`�I:ing should be looked a6 as coc�pl.et.ely as nossiUie� and he wat; :>ome.rh�t at a loss to ref.icct the feeli.n�s of staf'1' as a hhol.e. i�e said he thought th�,y had consiciere3 most o: the thinF;s� and sinc.r the nature oi the bailding was a'Pype 2 it r:ould be er.ry plcasing in that a.rea and add to a trend of arciiitecture in th ,t vicinit,y. ;:r. Hold�n said that it 4;as a muLter of it beinp, five feet fram the properL� line� and it was more than adequate £ro^� a fire standpoint. �� Mr. Kemper said that if thez•e had been nc objections fro� nei�;}�bors th�,v co-l.ld grtmt thc rariai�ce, but it beca:,ie a standol'i' of the aesthetic ob;jection ver•:•:.is the inconvenience far lack oS adequate drive�,rav area in movin�; the buildinf; ten feet to tho souih. 2ie added that his opinicn would be to approve the vari.;:ncN. ,�,� FRTIJTEY AYP�ALi CO;�iMIS5I0N AtEETING OF MAY 2�� 1976 - PAGL fS t;OTION bY }Cc�mper, secondcd by Barna, to a;7prove the variance, Upc�n a voa.ce vote� all voting a,yea the motion carri.ed unan3mousl,y. � 14r, Barna added that there would be one less building open on Su.ndays in that area vid would ct;t dot�rn on traf£ic more than if ttAere was a Tasty Freeze there. YOUTN C???i'Pis'R DI"CUSSTOid: idr, r7ed Stor2a was present and read to thc Cormmission the recorimendatiun £rom �the Youth 1 roject Coranittea on ihe Teen �enter proposa]. (r.nntained in t?�e r.�in�tes of' the H7L^.ia."i Resources Com�ission me�tinf; nf .4prii 1� 197b)> t�rs. Gabel aslced i£ she understoo3 correct]y that the Parks and Recreation Depart- ment didn`t want the responsibi7ity £or the Yuuth Ce,ntery and N,r, Storla :>aid that he had not been at thati meetir:g but Il;:.n e'.uf'f had told 'nim he did not har•? the mone,y io ca.rr�� ou l: the �uidel:r.e�, a.t t.hi 3 t4ms •�sid c•^�ilds.'t he_-�d7 e a_t. _ rir. Storia sa9_d he uis�greed wi'th that because they hire rec+pl^ to s�it iri the m�armir;g ]touses, but say thev cznnot. hire one more per•son t,o sit. in on th� l�ut:h G�nter, I�rs, Gabel stated that she was intex•est.ed in ±.1�is pr;,jeet. ae��i uou�d like tu �ee � somethin� dcrl^ for the �foutl:. ?3r. Stcz�la stid oae r,i' th�� rea�ons for the `I�c�r. Centnr would ba to proride a place ior them +�c �n ti�itheut oF�ri,�� .�g a lot c+f mon�y as at ihe nreser�� time t;:ere w•+.sn't ;�nv �lace li'ke th 1., besa.d� > th:e �r� U;[.�;,r r5zn Center, and h° £eit there shculd be an alierr.ative k,o that. bira. Gab�� aid t,h-at v=ii3t�shr, had in mind ia�,� Lo 13•a ��the ±� �rLui� �t t�as �� rmxssi� give ei �:h.;r their ap]�. oual or disapnroval oi' thc co>>cE;�t af �hc. i'ei,n U.t.t,� � R L kt krith turo ^iemb�:rs absent she did.n't think i't ��rould Le fair. �h� s`�-a�e.d 'thu� s!-i� �ras wil.liii� to �o on record as bcing 'in farcr of ihe conce�t oi tihe you�t,h �;er�4:er. h,r. Hold'4.� s�ta.t�d ttiat xie t4as very mt>.cYt in Pavor of the ��rc��osa1 a::d c:��s s�u•pirzsc�� Fridl.rl o� �s L2eaC f2.� �el�ind. lie s��.id there e+ere puints e: tha proT�o �1, �i.ci; as the loca��cn, �chat c��ae i,n corfili�i :aitn tl,� natus°a of a t,ecn cent�r ..�7.: 'tPE c},ance io h��.ve fscedom of movem�:r�t a:id a p]_�ae thai� is easy to ge� to. Ne t3��ir�iit that possibly a bnilding or somet.'ner!� else _in the city caould crobabl,� oc an a�Ltierrial,ive that iii t}ie io:ig run cculd ba a gcocl soluLic,n ta this, Mr. Storlfl said he likcd hir. Hoidez�'s points� but hacl �to l001< at it realistic�7.I,y i�:stcad of ide�llq. He saici th.�re was tal.k th_t Pa�:�:vir*.r r.,ight bn closed dowr, because oi cieclining enrol7�r,errE .�nd thai. r,ou3d nossi�l,y' be used Por the cent.*�rs but that wa.s�of£ in the fctur�. tle Ut�ted t}��t this is a i.e;aporary teen cent��r eaad tt2ey wa:�Led to get mo-�ing on �t witYiout waiiiz�g for a scho�l. to bvc,nm� var t � or an emnty store to beco�ne avai.l3c�I�, and he thou�ht th�rs was no bcttFr pl��. th�x� the City Hail. He said at le�st chey wcuid be able to t°11. if it, xculd work or not. Air. .torla r,ont.i-nued tl�,at rigt�t. now bhey hacl t}iis room sitting aw•our:d doFrnet�i.x•s � that few kids hmew ab�tEt� ar,d ihe ones that did knox aL-out ii dict�i't go because of the t•infe l.in�itati�sa^ on th� games. � Mr, I�arna si.atF�d he wa. very much in Y'avor o£ a. Youth Cent�r� and said he had hclped st+rt one in 1y�6. He said the�,� iia¢ �onc tio ihe J,�3yae�a, V.r'.id, and �Ci.�ty � Council and asked fo� cionations� found an old� 3bandoned cliurch and put a down� payment on it, The last time he wa.s down t}�ere� he continued, it was a big .�,,..,,, .. I�RIDLF:Y Ai PEAI,:'i COi"ZSISSI.ON t•i'r::Ti.C:c; 01 tditY 25� 1916 - PAI;E 9 _...---�' � 0 �� the kid� with adult �up`'r�+ision. �ie s�i� he didn't know anQ get adult voltmteers to he1P staff it. succe ,s completel.y rlln b;t why thaC cc%uldn't b� `"C°� d5.rectors be wider 1�. , �er i+as tha1. the{ t.hen after a t,onLh Storla :aid the inten�. of the Y°u°h Cen� ;aith a temP�rdT� �Oard of' llirec�ors, 1ir. tne P2rma:Yent board so �+, ol-iardc He said it y:ou7.d be started u1�r �.e�h�r;; to � .�tive feelin�s ,P;ted an e].ection xould be held for re� t�Qre had been som- p��` �;�, sa:id tha� �� gtated th:it it had been sn€;l. •�� could be runnin� lt• didn`t always show1tlpe volunteers because they aia person. d dj��rpVed it might be be=tter to haV� �ne P Mr. Y,ernper stated that he uas in agrec�ent of t.he conceot oi i:he centea' r+n �t •-e ;t saas in Uf tt18 1.C;G3 ;,; �econded �JTT.CI!; hY ,: rna „ert n� ` avor_o£ tt�c- �o? � ._ .,,,�, , _ 3� that ttie An��als Co^4a'ssionc_:t:;:;'_i�:. hemp-'rs „ ,:. -f,muorary . o�ssin�, .o� oui.h C. -�.e. .• ��_ aa_ , a vc.c�: �� V :o�� . a�n:nous`-Y• ' ��- r;,oT � o°rs � �_�o� 2._ �___��,��.. _ ' � , ,. :�an� i c�i a �a. _ DTSCtiSSIO?� .� re£ez`erce ` Ch'; rp'- �� 1� � �h£ � � 1� � �e i to „�..>s .n�: �° ---"'_`_"_ �o � IIold�n �aicl tha1. 1' s dya� rit i'.� 1�0 �� . vi :u�,,.ty� 11. L' ,,, Mr. i� ��,in ti � e ^nd �t .�^' .. ,� o£ 1 1 r�r�_� t of 4:.c Couric - � on;, w�tr ., o. l'ip � °=Ft 7 r-, l;ti.' F� g ci t 1. � t lc. ,:" � n 11� �e City Coiu�cil nP�ieltsta�e.i�it w woulci cla i.£y so ` e�{, a tran. criPt• ;,o-:xt npP"al (,on� i.., :� o� i i:;t' � r,r, �7a sc�' "t �na auggest,Ed t}_,�ti li,>tenir�ES t�' ti��e lci ha�e a_t x•e. ��y naises r' ti, a�e ;... ;o^ ;•:c, ,i ;aid that ii=ter_ to it t,?�en. li^. i.eLderi sa1d re Mrs. C�a�' could lon , ti�;�y t�o e, tr,E for the next ri�=etinh. �r I�p' lot ; U� y . �arnce � ht '..:�z sub;�c„ oi �n H c.i,cc: i� i i;o c: f iid she h2ct cug .. _ ��'r^ f� c to t � 1-r .p . }, li? i i3rs. Czab �_ a;,<i �., ,.;,i ��e cut o� ih ie, yl�tiIllIlg �!' u.� ��iGR 7T['C.�11.�, k. o`i��,._: �-cnclus-�d�a aef.niticr. �" nec,1:,�. u�e� ..-tvt ri DCVi.I.Oj�ment., :i}78 SL�CCC�C �JdS EXi.2ET:i�iV 1'ui;u'� ... � ".>: .F i�i {�.1YC (i OR � OL �-_• po'Ented ou , �at that nc gara�e ;aas re .ulre - v .,,. �' f,Hi: }l:� �l.�t.eCj , c'i�' nr ~��`� .' ; h cods° �,zs ::ot �,n �, lo� } l, c a 1?olne �.id ha� , e.;d t��' `i; •all;7 1%� re9uir�:d i r :1r<. r.r. but he � P�. uol �,� s2' d �, ��,,,tiare feet' lf ;^-r,�e coula ihai; a:�d 2, thz:i 9� derinE, lot 1...�s +.'r.a,i � G�.be]- said �l�e i,�as wun �� requir„�t en �. � ��,� i� i±. ;•.,:;n than 9�� . ' .;., arbit,rary. the line ei dem^T;ca�_�,a is � ADJOtS�� Di0TI0N �y Ke�r,oe. , secondeci by Bru'n�. ' F'.YI. Upon a vo±c L'orr�missicr, GL Q'�' unanimou�=1u' - Rcspectful]y suUmitied, ��!/li"�'"'" �, C\ r•n:�r'J . to adjolirr. the mee±.ing o£ the t:np°als , 4 � the notion carrizd e �o�e� a11 votinE �` � � a�9 PAR3fS APiD RECFtEATION COMMISSION 17EETING tfi+Y 21t� 197b ME.fitBERS PRESENT: Bob Peterson, Dave Harris, Leonard Fioore, Iiar•rey :�lagar MEhtBERS ABSF,NT: Jan Seeger OTHERS PRI'SF.P7T: Dan H�,ff - Actir.g Director� Parks and P�ecreation Department Jar:et Yonzak - ndmi;:. As�t. to City Ma.�ager Carl Saarion - Reccreatien kide Ed 'vdilmes - Island o£ Feuce Edna Pe�a.rscn -.Secre*sry, Friendly Fridley Fol�s � i.r,.7 _._ • i�_ • n r_i,... . ra�.�.�;.�:C ii• CJ1:,i:.� - i;'i:S1�G'ii�:.� ii�:iC-iiuiJ I'1";i:...i;�y .�Ln.� Y.ose F?ayes - T�P.�Sll?'F:'� I�'riendly Fridley I'o1Y.s Thoma; Nehrin;: - ....S.k. Lynn Ii. : iscFier �i,A.F. llick T.o .bard - ??.k.H .� F.Y.S.A. Jerry ;jaci::r - _ .1.S.A. Boa Pearscn - H<S.F. � Chairn:an Peterson called the meetii:g r,o orde: at 7:35 P.h:. APPROVAL CF' MI?�U1F,5 OF' .APi?IL ?E 19i� ^.,";D 1:.�Y ��i976 ?.�.;?i!c Ai4'� ?::,F.w'1i'P]0.'v' — z---- " — _...�...�... t1r, hfoore s:?id that cn ,r,��,e 15 c'_' t!�e r.:in�tcs o� tl�e N?ay ?rd meetin�� "Ri:�er��cs: Heights" should b2 L`'P.L?�?�E�1 t,0 �''iileP.COe��. N.r. Petersr,n said that witn reference t.o pa;;e ].1� llth paragrap'ri� !�e did;i't Uelieve it was l�e rrha had been tal4:ing ab:�ai, structr:res� atid sugge: �ed it r:�s '�;r. 1�arri::. FSOTSON by iloore, seconded by v7ava: �:.:^,�t tl.e m.inutes Ue :pnroved xith tl;e cori•�ctie;;:. Upon a voice icte, all votirxg aye, t'�e motion c<rried unani.roou,l�, APPROVAL OF' AGr.TIDA: Mr, 4�ta�ar stated that he would like to discus: Afadsen Park, and tir. idoore stated that he croul.d like a d:�eussion on vlcncoe Fark to bc inclucied in the a�enda. h;r. Peterson said he would ;.i!<e to 2d3 t;e ite�c of a Project Cemm.ittee. P'.OTION by Y7a�;ar� seconded by ?•toore� th^t the a;3enda be aporoved with the additicns noted. Upon a voice vote, all voti:�f; aye, the motion carri_ed wiani.mousl,y. � FRIDLEY SuiV3OR CI'fIZFi,PdS: rir. Wallace: Olson was at the meeti.*,� tu pre;ent a oud�;et request� and introciucerl � the secre�:r-�� and treasur�r of his orl;anizatiori, the F:ietidly Fridicy Folks. 40 PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION 14��TING OF MAY 21t, 297� - PAGE 2 Mr. Olson passed out to the members of the Comnissian a copy of the 1�77 Fridley Senior Citizens Budget Proposal, Hc stated tha.t in the past the Commission had � been very good to them and had £unded $3�000 £or the group last year, 13e said that this year they were making a similar request, only for $u,000 as indicated in the budget proposal. Mr. Olson explained the $)1�000 would be for a portion of the salax.•y for a full-time professi.onal staff persun working in three other neighboring communities with Suburban Comnunity Services proazding ihe balance of the salary ($6,000.00). He stated that this income does not reflect the following supportive services: supervision oP all services; trips; special e��nts (I.E, bowling� golf, health screening� cross-country skzing� creaLive w;iting� bridge tournarnent� etc.); Suburban Senier Citizen Council; volunteer reco�;nit,ion; profe;,sional senior citizen counseling services; a.*�d in£ormation and rei'erraL N.e said the approximate cost of providing these services For the seniors in Fridley is $6,?89.00. Air, Olson s:.ated tha� $�90C) was for Cemmunity Re,ources, to be used for the Senior Citizen Center. He explained they �aer.e presently meeting in the Methodist Chizrch for their regular rneetir.�a twice a monihs and also i�ave a day center wnere senior citizens could go far sociai activities. He exp2ai.ned they f'elt that �e�ti.ng i;ogether from time to time was the best therapy senior citizens coul.d k;ave ber,ausc� many ax•e widows or widovrers� and in mai:y inst��ces lonely ma:rie3 coup�es. He stated that they inc2ude people down to age 5> if they fee2 they would Ue com£or•Lab7e rrith older £olk,. H? stated thrir budget expenditures for ].977 would be as E'olloz�rs: Adt=isor (or,e�half time) Fringe B�neSits Sub Total In-Service Professional Train,ng and Con£erences Mailings PosLage $100.00 Paper 3�.00 Printing tdewsletters 10.00 Leadership training S'or the Facecutive Cormriittee Secretnry/Clerical Telephone use Frid�ey Senicr Citizen Center Grand Tota7. �1�, 375. o0 1fi6.25 �11�i�1.?S 270.00 11�$.00 150.00 900.00 2G0.00 400.00 7�126,25 • He said that their advisor is Debbie Dcminick, thrnugh the Suburban Community Services. He cacplained that the Federal Go��ernment rrokued o�, the idea oY fu��di.,,�; organizations tnat were for recreatiou, and although their organization did inc]ude recreation it was not entirely a recreational setup. 4ir. Olsoa stated they don�� on�y �rork with senior citizens� but the Suburban Council also works with the handicapped of alI ages, t•fr. 61son explair.ed �he purpose o2' i:he $900 wou2d be so Lhe,y wouldn't iiave to infringe on the �;oodness and eooperaiion of the church for a place to meet, and they we:e thinkir.6 ahead fcr a center in the fuLure tnat �*ould r,ot only be a place fo.r them to meet= but £or cther oz^�>,aniza�ions to meet as we.i7_. ffe state3 tnere w�s the poss�_�l! �ty �h2c gernaps iii a]'e,ve years there wouid be a�acant school � bui_Iding in Fridley� and v;ere wondering if there could be some space providzd for `fiR'?"�... � PAfiKS luvD RECKEA'1'i0N COf�1tilSStON MELT�.NC; OH' MAY 24, ly/o = PA4E 3 L�1 them i:n tqat S'scility, Iie stated that they felt the $900 would be uenezicial in that respect. Mr. Ulson concluded hy sayzng tnat if this Cormnission could see • fit to recommend to the City Council i:hat an appropriation o£ .^I�,00� be made available to the senior citizens� they would appreciate it very much. Mr. Harris asked with reference to ttie balance of the staf£ person's salary ($6,�40)� if each of the com.�nities Has paying �,2�000 of thai. Mr. Olson said that the other communities that were served were Brooklyn Park� Osseo and Coon Rapids, and Direcior nuff explained N'ri.dley was paying in proportion to its participation, ne said that r.nere SJ2S no fornnala that nailed it down, but Fridley was paying as far as the number of senio^s in Fridley using its servic�s, Ri�ht now� he stated� Fridle�r is foremost in fun3ing the operaticn because eur seniors are requiring much of their time. h.r, lia*ris saia ti�.,�t he hop�d if this contisiued, sorne all.ocatio.i would be made to propocLion cos�s based on seme criteria tna.t r�;�uld be acceatable to a�.1 to maxe sure that both the seniors and the City �re ��tting a fair shaka. i�ir. [+'agar asked the number of nembers in ti�eir organization, and I•fr. �Isc.i renlie� they I�a1 11[� men�ers at the present 'rir;e an3 �aere constantly gett:;.ng me.^e, He stuted thei.r metrtber�hip f'ee was $i,�0 per person p�r year. Director Huff asr:ed i�rhat cor�m2L,i!:;v resoarces the w;00 for the se::iior ci ;izer: center taas comirg from, and blr, 0?son sa_.d he t}:ou�ht it ;aigat ta the Gn�:.^;�nity Educatian Progra^�, ri0T7^�T hy Harris, seconded by ?;�g�a�, to coaside: at budge� ti �e tlie p_^opo�^l �T'P-j?3X'ECZ CUVEI'lIle t}l: SG_*IlOi C��1Z£�_� 2C�i.L'=i.:LE� 1U.` ��l%i. tif7V.'1 .3 VG-1C6 %O�G'3 2��. votin� aye� the moti_on ca^^ied urianimo�.�iy. PR(.�iOSAL xF.U;•; H.A�l�. ii?,D I�.YeS.A.: Air. Dick Lor�baz•d, Vice Pre^,idcr.t of the ,I-ckey r.s�ocintion was aL the *��',;:;,�- to present the praposal, a.�d intro�uced io:: i;ehrir.^, P�esident o° r,Y.S.".; 1e;r� Tjade*� Vice-Yresicien� o£ the Ycuth roo'�bu21 kssoci.ation wl�icn ��, a bra:�ch o:' t.:e. F.Y,S.�,.g Lynn .'i: cl,er, Pres �dent o;: �,ie ilockey As �cciation; ar.d Ror, Pe�rson, t}ie Professional kdviso* on tl�is proje�t, Mr. Lombard told Lhe Ceremi:;sion tt�at t.;.� ortazzizations represer.ted at L'r.is meeti�p have hzndled the yout.n sports p:ograTrs in the City nf Fridley, and state;d that they had a p.roblem ever� ;�ear t•:nr_n it cor;�� to picking up the equipment. iie .aid thet they we.^e lookin� £ur a spacµ to store aI'_ Li;is equipment; �t present the�*11ad tried renting space, finding semeone te ;;eep it ir. their basement, or addire more 6urdens to the coache, to see if they t�oul d keeo it f.^om year to year. t�ir. Le=ni:ard stated that botl� the A'.Y.S.A. and H.A,±�', h�d put up some money toi:ard a p:oposal to bu5.ld a bui2ding to store that equipc:ent, and passed oui to b{ie ;uembers of the Corunission copies ol the proposal Sor tne type of buil.din� thc-y uould li.Le to �uild and the materials insolved in it� wiLh ',.;.�r �acent_o;� of the roor, ?re sta',:ed tFat they orere he're to ask for the 1•.>s�d t,o be donated on wk�ich to const�uct thc Ltiildir�g, and explained that th�y would fl;nd the Luildin� and would provide tiie people to �build it accordin� to specific�;t_ions. �`�P,ARKS AND RECREATION CoMMISS1oN ME�2'IN� OP' r7AY 21�, 1976 - PAGE !t rir. Lombard said he di.dn�t know whai arr.3ngements would have to be made, but he was certain both organizations would be satis£ied with leasing it to the city. He � said that right noi•r their concern rras gettin� a building to store the equipment, and they thought their proposal was more rc�alistio than if they asked Parks and Recreaiion to allocate the funds to build it. He stated it would be a 2�' X 211' building� with a wa12 down the center and two entrances--cne £or each organization. ile said that if the city wanted it to be their building, then the organizations would insure all of the belongings and the city could take care of the building itself. Idr. Peterson stated that it seemed to him it would be the organization's building until. the end of the lease. T•fr. Harris commented that it rras a perpetua2 lease� and the on13� reason it would be termir�ated t�rould be ii' the t�uilding started to deterioratr-. and the organizat4on dzdn't have �mple Sunds to fix it up as the cit,y couldn't Iet people get h�rt or have a potential fz.re hazard there. He asked i4r. Lombard if he had a specific site in mind, and Mr. Lombard replied they had thought of putt=r� i+ ihs=.d� ±,he �ence�l-in rirna bFhind the ice arena, but the problem arose that it is closed up at 20:3o at night on t,�eek days and is locked up on weekends. He said they had also cor.sidered Co.mmons, as it would be centsally located for both hockey and footb�ll, bu� vrould settle for anyplace withzn the city that wou?3 be accessible to thern �aithout ploUring a road out in the tiaintertime. N:r. Harris sug�ested the fence�-in �rea caould be a good idea if they had their own l;ey, Mr, Peterson asked if' th?re would be room in that fenced-in az•ea, and llirector Huf'i replied there woulcln't be. Iie said thaL whole area was filled up ri.ght novr� and there raas the added problern of thefts in that area. Director Hu££ said he thought Commons would be a good place for it� but ?�Sr. ;7agur � said a block buii.ding would not be allowed at ComTM�ons, Y•1r. Harris added that it iaould havc to be a brick buildiug to conform �aith the pwr.p ho�zses� as the Courcil had decided any structures erected tnere iaould have tn rnaintain that appearar.ce. Be suggested thai bets,*een Columbia Ar.ena and the pnblic Frorks woul.d be a gond location, and Mr. Lombard said that behir.d tl;e ar��na i:ould be a�ood place� too. t�7r. Yeterson said that one of the reasons the fenced-in area appealed t.o him was because it would be pretty security-proof. P7r. Harris asked hosa much it wauld cost to brick a 2!�' X 21t� building over the block� and Mr. Pearson answered abaut a doll:�r a square foot. Mr. Aarris said he wouZd Ue interesi.ed in the Cor:.�mission wor'.Kir:g an arra:�gement� i£ it *,:as decid^d the buildi.ng cou2d be at Commons� to participat.e to some degree in seeirig thxt it would be bricked. Director HuSi'<^.sked what. the estimate on the total cost 4�ould be� and r;r. Lombard said $�t,C00 liad been committed from both organizations to�;ethex•. Mr. Harris said then thAy we�e talking about a$lt�000 bui].d?.ng, and aslced whai: tihe,y� would think of a$1�,900 building with i.hc Par!:s and ttecreation budgeti.r.g the �900 in their Uudget to bric]c it. He sai.d the city would then take the title upon compietion� and the organization� could get i.t �n a lease basis, Pir. Lorabard said that would. cause a ps•ohlem because rSr. Pearson�s business was bloc}<s and brick� and Mr. Pearson was donating hzs time and r�4ti•inF, in brick was a Sussy job. He said they wvuld prefer going to the area by the arena if it could be a block buitd.ing. rtr. Lombard said he had an addit,ionai request to ask, and said it this proposa]. � were to be presented to the City Council they would need the �ervices of a bac}:}roe to di� the trench for the footings. 4irecl.o?• HufS said that there would be no PARKS AND RECR�ATtUr+ COt•TPSISSI�N FfF,u1'liv(; �A' r1AY 2l�, 1976 - PAGE 5 4a3 problem in getting the equipment out, Yr. Iiarris said that he had a few contractor � friends, and would find somebod;� ta operate it. rSr. Yeterson asked iS there would be any security problems by t!�e arena� and Mr. Lombard sai.d that he didn't think so as the police patrolled it. He said the only � thing that would worry him c�ould he some yo•angster goi.ng up and falling o£f the roo£. Mr. Peterson asked how mucn it would cost to build a security fence� and Director Huff answered that a 10� chain-link fence with barbed wire �rould cost about $10 a foot. Mr. Naz•ris asked iahat the tir,�etable uas on this, and 2•fr. Lombard s�id they :aould waat to start in �eotc:.,ber. P?r. fia: ris said he taould liY.e to sce *i.^. Nuff come back to the Commission with �ame reccrrLmendaticns on ti-:here it could go. Llr. Lombard said �s fzr as any other city 1?.nd or park land was cone�:ned� ihey m�ere r.ot c?:oosy. Mr. Peterson said he wculd support either propo�al� hut he wanLed to r.,al:e sure that bnth rlreanizations £e,lt co�a��ru�.`�le ;�rith K*t��.t;ever carr.e out of the CoaL�rissicr.. He eidaed th2t he�rreulct suggest zi!o�:r�r.g in t�tie uudt�e'c for z fe��ce �ti tiie az•enay as that mi;ht make it nore seceire t�an a brick bui.7.ding at Com�ons. Mr. Narris stated that ne l,oped t!;^ Cit,,-� Colncil viouldn't loc.e^ i:t�eir st�ndar3:- by accep�ing a b;zilning that ti.*asa't a�tractive� �nd 1•;r, Fetersen saic: he was siire the Plar!ning Conmi�sicri zaould noL �e in f�:•ox• af that, either, Mr. IIuff said he wcttld lean torrarc3 r�ucesting iiiat tYe bu�'get fot• 1977 re_°lect some tielp £or bricking that bnildi?; , and ',�avin�; it at Co*�,mons tna� �nildino a •£ence aro'and it �eMepl�ce else, lx. F='.,erscn said h� wculd have to agree 1:it?', him� bvt said that i' i.t goes to t�ie Pir.nziint; Gormnission 4:3-"t•n a;:ru:;os::l co ��ic1c veneer a block bui.ldin� there :�ould 'oe nrvble:as. N'ir. Peterson said he �rould be ?:ap;v to s�pr.�rt t,he block buildi:-:g at Cclti�bia Arena iS the orgaiii;�at;icns dicin't. !'ee? there .aould be �.ny probler. w:.ch t��_�du�ism, and Mr. Lorebard said he didn�t th_.r,k i:,�r�� a;ouid be �s;y proolam. He added !.hzt befor:; the costs �rere escaiatear r,e ihou?h� th°y t�:enld ai1 be i: a�reerient to have a blo�k huildind in ;ame eth�r area t-;�� G��TM,�or.s, tir. Harris .uid the Co:*�,i��ion was not asking theM t.o spen3 *nore mone�� a� th:s cou'ld be b��9geied, .�:rould just involve their time� and i;r. lomoard said it would be increasing it by- ti7.,COC a;h�cla would take care of' t•hc material�, bu� it iaculci be consici_:.able added t:ork foi� t�.e laborers. Director Huff drew on the blacicboard a rou;�h sketch of t_h,e erena area and �xplair.ed there wo�tld be no nroblvm as Sar as acces.,abil_ty� just :•:ith p.eparin� � hvi7,dir,g site in ihere. He said that anout t.ro or three mature trees would k:n�e to re removed and the stump� re: oced; and zddcd t},at the,y c>oiild have to have an en;;;.nee- look at i.t, but he ��ras sure so-ae fii2 r�ould be need�d, i?r. Peierson said that if he understooci tir. Lo�:,bard correctly, t.h^ orh�,�i.zatiens would prFfer to �;o :.•izh the bloc;c buildi.ng at that sii,e ratLer than a urir,k Uuiidi;�g at Corronon�� even Lhou�h they would h3��e some help rritn th� cest, 3nd T4r. I,o:noard ^�iu thai. ta�s ri�r,ht. Uirector iIuff poin�ed oiit t'.-,at th^ :.. ^a r.car t::e arena b�tc;ecr. �he �ar:d azd �ravel stora�{e and the back of t!�e parkin� l.e: z:�eild possibi.;� invo]ve a culvert and :;ome t,yp� of drivewa,y� whic:i t,ould incrcase the costs aoout $]�000. h:�. Lo:^bard said � that if t}ie $1,000 r:as tl:eir ex;;c;�se they mi�ht as well go cJith the b,^ic.k buil<ii��g at Commons. 4�ARKS luvD RECREA'1'lUrv cx�riM.LSSION ME�'1'tiuv UA' MAY 21�, 1976 - PAvE; 6 Director tiuif suggested anoiher area on his blackboard sketch, and Mr. Lombard said the organizatinns cou.ldn't be too picky �men asking for land to be donated. . He added that tt:ey ha3 planned on it being an improved area� and that was what their estimate was based on. Mr. Htirris stated that he felt he would rather take the time and invite the organ- izations back to the nest meeting, and would liice to ask Director Huff to recommend what he thit�xs is best Y'or the organizations and the community at that, tizrie. He sug�ested somebody should look over the areas to see what �he particular probleris would be. MOT10ia by Harris� seconded by Wagar� th3t a three-person committee be formed wish a member from the H,A.A'., a member fram the F'.Y.S.A. and Director Hui£, 4nd that they �et ta¢ether and agree r�hac they think is the best proposal and bri.ng it bacl< to the Corur.assi.on at ihe next meetin�. Upon a voica vote� a11 voting aye' the motion carried unanimously. 1SLA,�DS Or' Pi,kCr P.Ft'ORT: Mr. Ed 1•di�nes stated tl:ai: he was present Uacause he was involved in a iund-r. aisir.g pro�ram state ana n�ttion.ride, and he £elt it was time the Commission vaas updater� with same in£ormation on tkie Ts1�Zds of Peace. r1r. Wilme,s said that he felt. the conrept zu;d purpose of the Islands of Pease ha.s been f'uiii�le3 because irt the b�g.'u�r,i_ng they wanted to bring an awareness to a17. Llie, agsr,c_i.e.; tl.at ra.na�e out�cor t-�atu�e are.s to makc the:� acces�ihle to th� handi�• capped arid elderly; and �rnile this has b�en acc�mplished� it isn't quit� realized yet, Ae stat•ed that he laie*h m2ny Aeople who iaere kr.ovrledgeable aboat the needs �f the hand9.capped who had foiloiaeci this program along, and the,y felt it has bron;;3�t more to the ,u^£ace about the needs o£ these g°onle than any other organization. Ae continue3 that the project stz:ted about four years ago c•.*i.th a little piAce nf Ian3 about 2�C00 .feet long by 75 £ee�: wide, and next thay� received a piece of - land from the City of Fri.dley (Chzses I�lan3), and this i�ras where they now had the trails. He stated that the eSt�� hud originall;� paid N.S.F, :�L:�200 f'or thi, 7_ar.da and i.t r:as last appraised at $38�000. i•ir, tti'ilnes sai.d that as far zs rZisSn,n, the money wau concerneri� they had gotten rr.oney over the years from different industries including Honey*ae11� 3.�I Company, Fillsbury, V.F'.!d., American Legion, and fron? the state. He stated that th�y had been ahle to get elder�y pe�plc out t,o the Islands oi Peact that never had the opportunity to get oui oP their confines before £ar eaen a couple oi' hours; and i,hey provided activities for these people that are not progra:-r�-�ed for th�an now. He said that the nnrsing hvmes b:9.ng these people eut� and cahen they go back to the institute their attitude.s are co:ng±et�ly changed. Mr. Sdilrnes said that t.h�y ner�ded a.facility such as a reception center or shelter with rest rooms and activiLies. Ae ^tati:d that i£ a group of 35 - L�0 people was Urou�;ht oui� they wanted to ntake sur� acbivi.ties were provided within the shelter in cas� the e).ements were bad, He continued that they £elt they had not only � berief;if,ed the Ioc.al areas� but the sta{:e as well as there i., no park in the Stat,e o£ Minnesota tha� the handicapped can utilize. He stated that he fe�t very strongly PAkKS & RECREATION Cu:LfISSIOc+ F1P�TING Ol�' 1tAY 2lt, 7976 - PflUE 7 45 that we have a chance to set an example; and th�.s was conveyed ver,y r:ell by Senator �Numphrey Vrhen he savr tne potentie'1 �eceral ycars ago and said this could be done. Fte also mentioned that The Islanas of Peace had received ar. award frcrn Jdew Yorlc d City for F�vironmental LLxcellence. • 14r: i9ilmes stated they didn't want to stop with r°creation, but create a nature area i�ith a therapeutic value. 'r:he_n he first started with this idea, he said, he sought out people on all levels t:�at F.ere involved with the handicapped. He stat�d that these c:�ere not sel£-:ppointeu c�:�,�rts� but were people o:no have becn try�r:� to get the plans oFf the dra:sin� board to meet the needs of the people. They didn't want an area exelusively for the h�:dicapped� because to isolate thc:rr� t;ould b� rrrong. A:r. Liilme, said that as far as t!�e ftc:a raisinr; program t�as cencerned �nd tha bill.to the l.egislai;u?•e this pa:.t �essien, ..hev :�:ere a�ai. leit Un aa�: �pria�ioi;. He stated he had Ueen get�ing le'tters t;e p2st t::�o to three ��ecks to get i•he Uill reintroduceci a�ain. Not only do the,y dea2 r;ith '�he h��,d�c�.�^ed z:d eld�rl5�, ;".. !:i.Lmes co��itiueu� �u� theY also haLe scnoo2 c'r:ii?:•��n com�� to �our t'r�� Sslards oi i�ea�e. s�e si,ated ti;4t `'?C_ 1��v *iC'PIC 8.�j�2'CY.�t"12+„r�l°.' 101� �:1Q5 4Y'..^C Ol?� G?YlO.IE C18553F.'� COL:C Gilt {,O }i.!1C: R^E8� . ._ t.11:'.S2 ��.2T1L1Si�' f.^Cr.^... ;i'v' S'dld ij:?8'. �:-^-c,'i �':C:'i: Cb:]:Eii.E;� 'niL!2 'r.1-S i]Cv^t?iB• I�tr, ;•ri�n�s stated th•r.t ','r?y� couid no`. �o to ..:,ybo�y and ask for advi^e c.^. Y:c:� io �-�'l IS�.a'1%. Of PB:'re �bL'r�3��1.,., �p:."i:i,�L' �.=+'"c: i:!7i5 t17,. i i1F-,'r.,. .�',CC:12 u�le:"".ut.�+= r�m � z � s � ,. be�ore, fle said tne _ i corc�pt -. � reo7� 's projec�� r;.; he cic � th ^.r, t.r12T'P. ?•ia3 8 D'J'O]^C{. � 11.0 1'.:• t�2 Si.c.^ .�l '�'. �I CI p....t.�Btl °GC-. DLJ� 1C1f j� "..^� °"V8t1 �t.11G UCIl{i.('.(i �.F.l n. S 5�.'Cl 4� --'E.' Cfi::1� J C`-: f'�.t"13 3u -11.c�7��:: i,J�:Pi�l �-�.�;'� �1L' ��?'.Cl) �:i:E'f }'iOT'2 t0 [:('t, H:'1i.:.. � i_: t<:I:u .^- t-l' P�? !.S`., d5 th°jr (',O � Oi1,f',� Ul i T' �;-i� 7�U : thc:y rre rsoin6 ±heir test. 1-]@ f.O1Q 'i.}]C CO:'!P,i-"�iC7't ��1:>t. 'T,O j�TE' ��OnIB OU� S�ilLil 11ni'.l?;'.-. ,v3: 1�;,,1't �?It:3' .'El'B aS�G]'} r . LJ , t:^.2 C;�T'1�i.5 OS� �±?i �1° 1°.121td:7 01 F'g"�•P dI1C� 2.SiK�4 t��l:'.i*1 i:0 a.:ai:C ii.�_:� �SI":3 i,J �O.'IL 2t �•. - is doing �'�d t<!ce r.riae =n th� �^e:ie,rr.,. Ch2irr.�an Pe�erson tha,l:ed Yr, ti•iilr;<:s i'o° t�_:�ng t"� tire� tc r°:a':° n'�s c;resenta;,i.�r.. �l',i.C� , :�l'TCI; V'r��^:'.i1._�^ I!_=.,�,� � "^...�_� :»_ rJl.I'i'Ct.O]' 1173iI LCZl1 �nc- 1;•.`�In;�1nSlOr !.�i:!.�. {.�E =3710"�T.=Y,?.Oil O.� ?�hr_ T'P.C.^22'.:i0.^.C�l 8Ct1V1{'.1.E5 had been dist.x•i'outed i+`�eiT l,�t r in�� 1� �.t i.a:; r.sk��d 'hat t� e�^c�nber revierr this and tr�en a� n JnnEt F oi�z� � �ack t �, isu�er en:� qi� *•ions t_, iL tr�,y� r� �P�'. have. � Mr. A?oore sr:id that Le ha,d a que>ti�n regurding su*iriming insti-!ictio�s� �:nd as�eri wny' t?�Ey couldn't ha�re �$5.J0 £ee �•�:_n a� Co�n ita��d r xa. P�:. Kon.-�ak state�d thst in the survey tii°y took ti:e fECS r�ap;�d £ron S� i.o ��2 t�iz P'��'s'��r. �e°uTMerted that he would ob,iect to a ree be:....:_ac� ne feli. since we live in �h� I,: nn o£ Pen Thousand La!<es, a.�ytn�n� tii3t ca�:i ur. dene to promote a�te: sa.'e}y �^.� ec�icate peoole to savc �ti�ei:,sel�.c�s siiould �e a; no cos�. Fie said hc� favored s,;_mming � instructions �* ��1. lEr 1� be facr r� a� ,e o+ +�ue t}'P� �>f �ute that r;e 1�� n. r:s. Y,onzak .a�d 'i.at . a ccmc ir_, n� c ticn �ct}�� c!�rsr, tnf,_a feE:� even if it; is tninimal., �„c,uld nal.c pe=ople U�l��:..: �.t i: a he�ter ser^ric<. than it actuall� i:;. She said tha_L snme pr.op7e tncu�;P.t bec.-+use a s^rvice wa; frce it really .rasn't a good servicc, which wasn't true. 4� PARKS AND RliCRBA7'ION GO"'AtI.5i0P� MEE,TING OF MAY 21�� 1976 - PAGE S Mr. Harris stated that he had reviewed this and had looked at all facets of it, and in regard to the problem discussed relati.ve to recreational activities being • a duplication he found that if there were some duplications they rePresented a very small portion o£ the dol.lar expense incurred either by the individual or the city. Re said he fclt tl;at duplications were a very small portion of the prqb].em relating to the dollars in Lhe recreational programs, and there might be some minor changes that could be made l�t he said he found those wou13 eliminate some people fron some programs and he didn't think that wac fair. 24r. Harris said that he found the major area of total cosi was not maintenance or the off'icials, but the thing that cau�ht his eye i�:as that the cost ger hou^ per psri,icip�,ni be justified and a maxir:;�m level set. He .,tate3 tnat the area the,y might be able to put their fi.r�ger on was the equipment area, a»d should ir�dicate that th�re are certair. thir.�;s this communiLy eannot continue to do in the area or furn:ishing. He add°d tl�at hf>, felt that e:as one area that could be minimireci r�r maybe even eliminsied, Director ;iuff said that the str�s�ge thing c:4� t'r.•�°c ;:ore zero d^llars hvd�et.en i.n taon-�'fic,e Suppli.es for rec.eation. T?r. Ha^ris sai�; t'�a'� was the area l:e t?�cught had some la�,ittxde, zr1 the ot.her area beirag the maximurn cost per ir,d_viduaJ_ for a p«rticulsr activit5� 6eirzg s�t b;;� the city. iie stal;ed tiiat t;en t;:ey coulct 6G bacic to the as ,or,iat,i�n � nci te71 t,hem the czty was short and the entry fees vacul3 I:ave to be .^ai.: ed to coti-er the de£ir,it, Ms. ronzak said tnnt this was hard to dai:e:•mine� but the;� }iad su?ne f'igures frem other cities, She statyd that. the equicmie,;t �ras an ar�a tY�at could b� rec?uced and stili be greater t.h:^.n most, ci.t.ies tl:at ;xar4 surveyed. Chairn:an Peterser. ask�d i.n rc:fere�nce to the hockey prograrn wha� the 50 hcur:; • meant on tne Compariscr, of kecre4i,ional r'.ct�vities sheet, and ?�;s, f;on::a?: re}�licd those v:ere the actu�l averag� mzrnbe.^ of hours on the ioe per � part,i.cip�cnt per � season. �he said t,'.iat the :62.63, hhich included mainLerc�*cce, iaes f'or each time one boy played for one hour, t;i°, 2�,00re raised the question of i�e rGvenue� an� asked if '�nis went to ttxe iio^Y.ey As,cc�atior or to the Cii:;,� of "r'ridle;,�1 and t.s. Konzalc replied i.t �,�ent to the Hockey Associ aia on. 1•ir. �vugar said �hat they bu r their ozan gear ar�d induor ice ti.rr.e an � give it to the kids� ar.d ?•1^. Auff stat�d. that the city sui.piied some gear also. I•ir. Harris said thut urider equip�ent tliere *.aere gozlie pac.�, stieks ard puclzs, �nd that ma,y be a.n ite�rn the Hackey Association shoulci ta'ce care cf. Chnirman Aeterson said that from 3: i0 to 6:00 the hcelcF:;}- xinks have £rFe skati:?� and the Associaticn docs not, by a�reer��.ent� �;et to use 'tt.� rinks, and there were probably �s many ki.ds skatin�; thez7 as ��r,di>r the supervi�ion o£ the Hockey Associ_�a- tion and they used the ec,ui�m��nt alse�. D4r. Harris said that be viewed hoCka;f� as to what uas charge8 o£f against t,ne Hocb.f:y i:s5ociai.ion of Frid2�y, and su�;gestel that pert,aps there si:oulcz be tiao colurnr.s for hockeY; one fo: the Hac'.cry Associati.an and one Sor free sScatir.g using the hqckey rinks. �fr. Peterson said t;hat it would chanpe the fi.�ures on7_y by the fact thut usage would be do�ible3 b�_r,ause tYrc>.y we:•e naw charging tv hcckey the t.otal cost of t;�ie maintenF�ice progra;n rea.lizin� that hnlf Lhe time is is used by the Hockey Associ.a- tion and ha].f the t�.rne i.t is free skatin�;, ile su�gested t.hat maybe the san:e }cids were s]<ati�zg five or �ix ho�irs a day, ar:d =aid i£ they weren�t. playi_ng on a hocke,y tearr; th� c:ity woutd ei_ther have to fux°nisli a rink for tt,ern or there would Ue problems with the slcating ponds because they would be pla,ying hockey on the gonds, PARKS AtvD H��ttEAT10N COMMI�S10rv MEETIhG OF N:kY 21y� 1976 - PAUE 9 �`�' Director Hui'f said that his feeling taas without the organized pro€rarrs the city �probably wouldn�t be maintaining sa many rir.ks oS tl�at quality, kie stated that this year, ii' they really oranted Lo study tha�� a study could b� made on how much i'ree skating is done in the hockey rinks outside of or�anized prog*ams. Mr. Wa�ar asked if there wa. any w2y the y?.63 figure could be brought in line with the rest of the costs, and Mr. Narri� stated thai it xas in line and that i'�e,y would have some of those naintenance peoole that take care of the soi'tball fields in the summer standing around doing nothi::g i.n th� wi.ntertime. Direc�ur Huff stated that theg had a dozen part-tim� es�pleyees that kork just on ice mairi::nance in the uinters and said he disagre�d w.ith i:r. Harris that �,:ithout the ice the,y� �:ould hac�e exbra help. Pir, ftarris s�id i.n2t he was sure hocke�r was the most expensive prc�;ra*� a�,d wasn't ar�;uin� that poini, hut sa.�d the,y ��e:•e raletinU tY,e hockey progran ta t>,e Hockey Associaticn, ar:d it look�d like the 1;ssociation rra�n't ..�r:yin�; it:; t;ei;;l,t, ' Director Hu£i pointed out that that kind oi use ��asn't includei :i..i �oii1�;�11} ei�;,crs as tlie,y didn'{, look ai how many peopie play sof�ball. a{; the�x nei;;l:borrood dia ;or_d. }"TS• KO^7.c�{ SHlCi t�13t, eUmc �rL��• �n,g .�.n_^F' ]i=:":".11.7^;z�.Sa� P!02'C P_}'Df-,�i151�� t;h?n O�[If'.� � f;Yl'j trere could be �;a��s the hockcy pra�r:.r. cosL co�!a be ies�ened t,o ihe cit�*. 14r. Pioore stated th=t he thon�'_�.� iherc. .,.-cu�d be a fee coming b�c.: ic tl;e ci :,,� Por almost al1 of the sports, ir.clr.d�r,� _.:.-_.c:-aic,g, i's, i�oz�z2lc said tha�1 sh� dicr'i �:no:* W}1P.71 fGc.S 4iCI'E T'87.SG'-(i �?.:L� C:ifi {',;i�� (_nl_gl' `3Ei5 C?]?rij?G'� �D 1R::�:1i ,.:_}•.']i.. Lhc`; i.c.'ii, tCl: YE,'3T'S t.}?.4�., l.f �:]E fifPCS t?i1V(:?1�t t?C°:i ).11C?'�:B:F� 1.I1 yrOrn,Or},l.Q:i �[lE ^1�;�" C::71�� }i(: providing that s�:° lt�.ei of �e^vice zs in tn�a past ��cause ti:� riollar cw!'t bu;;� the s�?e servi.c�. Chairman Peterso� s�,�_e th�t there wer� n�,,;ie in thc Citv of �r..c��; unese �r�'dren � iE32.11j' I1G°d the Oji,:O*':�.;.P.1"t�' �O ylnZ'i.l.r ..i. lil 7'�c`ta3Ll.C?*121 D�� --.T,�t �..�.Mi 7. L!i? PPB�(IBi}.:lt?iiG'Rt Cti.fE:2:�E:�. f:6 ::a,;�i:f.ft !:P�.i. „_.� hr'H�{Sf;J' OL'ct.�C� 0��, �.._^.°.Rt�.GII 1� VEL'j� therapeutic, an3 itii� is �he ti•��ry ;erscr. �::ho ..ou7d he dri�:�n ou�. ci Lhe p^o�r^:°:� ur,en the fees are raised. � � „ �.;�� iiZ'. }�".I'I'LS SF12(� t.113t. t.^.C'Y COil_C. uif, u}'��ti� 1., 8.i. �iliC�LEt i.il"E� ?ISCI S?}.Ci Pi: vrCii_C t]:1V8 '�O fl.`{�Z'2�- t711t, t�}li'.P6'. 2rP. Cf;T'�.;31^ �: :°.t:; �i:%lf. ;5,�74 };:?. 4?i�i1i.•1 i.7?P- I'��15L`.`<71.1Oi1 Et'�•7Y t}1012�;�] Si7;�it' r°OjJ�f! .?✓ �):; {�O?`C'><7 �:O t�XFc'�I_. i'�:.�i!' 4�Ci�luiu ±":871 l:ii�,-� CiP_ :ii�i0� �. ::: S�71d )12 h'CU�.� Y'P� L�°�� O �G:1E,r,-..l gi:'-,'�1;.F. 1::�? ; ' �;?at 'i1:3�E;�E i,� :_^�_� �.!'.'t='7<. -'-�r if a Peny is skatinE� t�-�elve g�.„°s tLe f'.:e c�ght to g�� up i•riti� t:�'.� �ior.si;i p�o �;;hat thL' COSf.S 8P8 °GP Gli271 >�i:iGll�it�� Fi;'i� 1Z d��G1T� 1'i 5�:3t,12IF., �i7 P�:]PS ..i.8 li't. i:'O:.i'Q relate Lo wliat tne �.�,::eral si;.at:�n;� feA ::o�'�ci *�;. He statrrci it uoi,ia b2 �. :tu:d tr,at. ceuld he derived by an inc:ease: in triose� a:id ,iseci f;o ofi'set ecuii,:er.t and oi'ficials. Chairman Peterson st..�ted he tk.�n�iit h's. Kor:z.^k iiad dor.e a€;reat jcb •��.d he vr�:s grateful for the f.ig:.re�, }ie thankt:d 'ner i'o^ atLen:iir:t; {;he meet•ir.� a:.d a��ke:i if she would si� in on gart of the buGge,t session, v7d she .,aid shc ��uld be ha,py to. T',ADSEd PP.BK D ISCUSSIO�+: Mr. tidaga^ asked with reierence tc .1s3sca Paric ,�he:e i_t: ua� sur,gc�te?. the tc:v.i� court be moved, ii' t.hat ctould tiu�_e ttie parkiz�g lot out. ➢irector Iiuff ansa;erecl it would notr as the ccurt wou].ci Le nori;� o: the r.arki.n; 1ot, � Mr, tdagar said that cleaxed it up as he ttio�:ght tiie parl;in�; lot iaould have tv ue torn out. PANKS AND RECREA7`ION C�h1MIS5I0N MEETING OF MAY 2�� 1976 - PAUE 10 4 ftECi{EA9'IUr+ :>TUDY PHOJBCT COMMiTTEE: Cnairman Peterson sai.d that at the last City Council meeting Councilperson Kukowski � had criticized the Parks and Recreation Commission� and he had been thinking about ii since and believed she was pos,ibly right in her criticism and Parks and Recrea- tion has been derelect in this instance, He stated he would like to see the Parxs and Recreation Commission create a recreation study groug to loek at recreation in P'ridley. He continued that t�e charter did give them the prerogative to.do this� and reminded the Conunissioners that they had cbjected to the Y*ay the ordinance was first passed� and went back to the City Council through the Planning CQmmissi.on snd �ot it cnanged so that it is possible for a project committee to be formed raithout one o: the rnembers of the Co:�mission having to serve as Chairperson. Chairman Fece.^�en stated that Councilperson Kukowski had said. she was ver,y disappoirited because i'� see;ned a]_I we h2d in Fridley taa� hockey and sof'th2.11., ard thex•efor^ he would like to see a ltecreation Siudy Yroject Ccrunittee created to look at recreat5_r,.; in the City of F'ridley and det>i��ni.iie iz' �it is adequate� or iaeeds .chang�ne, He s�id� � iit- ie=eL ii�d� �5 ��a_.r.,,�u� ;.i iae i,.ouY,l:� thi5 :�uujec't up lie should go one si.e�x iuri.lie:r, and he had contacted a�-e^y capable p�rsen ztiha has tl�e recrea:tion o*_' the cit;� ve?-5� much at l:eart and has the i�pc� of' a.cademic traina.ng to be a tihairperson for this. Ne also stated that this indzvidual had sa9.d :if anyone on the Co;r�roission +�anted t�h5.s positian he would t:nderstand and be happy to remove his na;r.e as a candiclateo Precedenr.e seems to be9 i�:, Yeterscn said� that £irst the Ccrrmission set the size oY the project commitLeey then deterrr,;ne s method of gettin�; vol�.znteersa and i.,hen appoint the people t;> it, i.nclud�n� tne chairl?erson. Iie siated tiiat t�e would 1il;e t.o see t}-�e C;ommis>ion �orm that type c1' corsn�ttee ar.d ask them to have a report � bac:c w il:is Comuission by Oitot��r or t?�is year. � ,'9r. Iiarris sr:i:i that the idea ha.d marita �,nd suggested it be takex� ent of t}zi.s g�nixp so no o�e would ha�e any p^econceived r.utions or ideas as ca .,'�h�t tbey are indi�riduully lookir.g for; u�d also ta ral<e an outsider the c'.tairperson, Ae saicl that in order to give hra2d reores:ntation to tYus group, eac?� men:ber of this Cor�missioai shc�ald sugE:;est one p�rson to serve, hICT.LOtu by Harrisi secondEd b,y i,loore� thst a Recreation Study Project C�m:nittee brn forrned ar.d by the next meeting eacY� of tl,e nembers o£ th�� Comriission s;zggest the nanc� of �om�one they oreuld like to have serve. on this ca��ittee; and uhat when i;1-,v :iv� rnembers have been seZected to se�•ve the3� liave the prerUgat;ive �o a.k two aiw lar�;e rneriUers to be on tbe coit;mit{:ee and a17. seven ��ill have a voic� in it, Upen a voice vot�a, all vating aye� the r�:obion car^ien unenim�i.sl,y. Chairrncan Peterson sain this co.nmittee should be l�oking at and evaluating the hockey prorr�an} the � occer pro�;rairy t�:llet� an3 anyth:ing that aroul.d i�e eZassiiied as r�creati.,,n in the city. YOUPH CENT£T.t: h?r. Moore x•eferred to a letter from the Youth Project Cocnnittee and said he wo;�ld like to mal:e his feelings knawn to the Park� arid Recreation Commission. He stal-ed he had tal.ke� to seves.al people on i:t�i� seibject,A and 'ne uould not be a;ainst having � PARKS AcyD ftECRrATION COi•4•SISSION i�l:'fINti OI' T`.e"+Y 211, 1976 — PAGli 11 �9 them use the Park, and Recreation Denartment's space if they were goin& to move .out to the libr<iry area, Director Huff said he yrould still be a bit negative to having the Youth Cen±er ]o�ated at the City fiall. T4r. Harris stated that.he had gicen so:�e thonght ta that, a�id he was not sure that Parks and Recreation should be involved in the Youth Center. Director Huf£ commented that Community Schools had oSSered the group to co:�e under thei.r auspices. G7,EwC0E PAiiR: Mr. t�foore stated the onl,y tt�ing h� would like ta say is t?iat he wis'r.ed Parks ar.d Recreation could get so:e emer�ency :�creatiioa in the Hivervie::�}:ei�;i�ts Addit�.on. He said it was really disi:a^'�ir.� to ;ee kids who had nothing to de, and �l:e area t�as so compacted it re:ally needed soneti,ing. ADJOi?PS.A[EtyT : rSOTICN b,Y P.arris� seccnd:.�d b,y t•;c,ores that the rcee�ing Ue ad;ourre� ai 10:%0 °.:.. iJpon a voir,e vote, aIl voting a,ye, �he ccot.ion c2^ried w-�a^_i°.cssi,✓, • ResgectPully stiomi:tted, � � �'��.�,./..fJ��/ 3i.' '.-�// Sherri Q'Dcr.nell R�cording Secre�a:y' � � OFFICIAL NOTICE CI7Y OF FRIDLEY PUQLIC HEARING BEfORE TNE PLAPININ6 COMMISSION 70 WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: Notice is hereby giver. that there wi?1 bc a Public Hearing of the Planning Commission of the City of fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on June 9, 1976 in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.ht. for the purpose of: A reyuest for a Special Use Permit, SP �75-07, by Pdancy Melbie, to allow a child care center for ten children, per Fridley City Code, Section 205.051, 3, F, in an R-1 Zone (single family dwelling areas), to be located on Lot 12, Block 3, Meadovnnoor Terrace Addition, all lying in the � P;orth Half of Sectian 12, City of Fridley, County of Anoka, t�innesota. Generally located at 1346 Meadowmoor Orive N.E. Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above matter may be heard at this meeting, Publish: �tay 26, 1976 Junc 2, 1976 � RICHARD H. HARRIS CH(I I RP1AN PLAfrNING COt-0%1ISSION 5� crr7' rrr �';i;i,�.rv r�rn�rso•rn I'L,1I�N'IN� P�NG 'LOiJ?NG 1�OP2•1 NU"�1GLR�� %G'b�� i i y�� -��-=-� � � �� nr>>r,icn�� ts sic:an•�-��rr�''f` � z •-- ��_� � �...d -- �,�.� �-;�. A(I(�rC55�1��I.,s � �J`�Ei: y',:i � ? . U L`�/� ��__"_ .._�l_L. � 7'cicphonc Nw�:i�cr�{� �_� k� � / � PROPfi;:'PY 04tNrl?'S SiGPIA'iUP.I-:��- °l Adclress 7* I /.?� l�% C'd /� 1L'{� --- �-.i2�----� �-- �1 ��ri�r; or r�:q,:ti.�� sioaoni,ig _�_ Speci,tl Use Permit Apjn-oval of Premi�i- inar}� F, Pinal Plat Strects or i+3.ley VacaYions otl,er , �,�r< , / . - I.:; c�' � �c ;Gur.�b�r ._ � �'---� � — - - ,., i i<-_ � ��/l� 1'ee �.S` ` Receip� �o. " ��>.�L_ 1 r . � � L� � = r Si.rcct t,ocation o` P:o�,��t;��),'�/ti 1' �i,.^ —L'y--�� l'��/'✓l<<( � i?/ �� r � 1" v 6= c L� �l v��. �� ; rs 1 �/! ' � �/ J ). i i i.. �f . / i �— l r,'l �:-J _4�.� —F�..L-�,/'��=C Lc�al Descri�t�_on o3' '� o; �r�i-� �•-� ��:, i� t� !'__ � L �fJ,,, _-+-�--•—,- - - , e.- �-�3-- � 1 `- �,f ,, �,y� C' i-;. Present Zonin� Classificatio:r' S f'� ;r`��ist;ng Use of Prcpe-r�v j��i �_ {� `',l:ii<___ —�4_-�� Acrcage oF Property� '�t�� //�,� j_ DescriL�^ i�ricfly the pxopased zoning cl2ssifi_caY.ion y.a'. . -F or type of use aixi impro�.�ement propc c i--- �`f-- _2 �° #°,�_,C.`�--="-Z=��'--��''>'1'� � � � ' ' �. llas tlte prescnt apPlicant nrcl�iousi� so��7'•;t eo rezone, pla�i�, o�i-a�n � lot slil-�� o: vaiicnce or special usc p:�rmiL on the ui>;c�i sit:e or I�arY. ci ii?� yes ��! no. 419iat was reqi:ested and mhrn?�_� — -- - 7`]le t.ndersigned ;mde�•sTands thati: (a) a]ist of all resicirnTS and atianers of prcperYy taithin 30D iect (��0 iccY for rc�oning) must he sT,tacl�ed to t;�is .pplicati.nn. (b) '1'his appli_cation ;rusC be si�r,_:7 �,) all erin��•s �ot thc prc,-^,ert.� , m' a,i expl�n�rtion givcn :�-n�� th_s is not i-hc c:i��. (c) !.es��nr.sil+i)ity ior zn?� defect in thc precet��in�s resul�ii;� ;r��;u Ciic fa�iltuc to ii_st *_i�c n..mes and addre,ses oi a]'< res;dcnts and l�roperty o�ancrs oi pro��crt.y i�l qucstion, i��cion�;s to thc �u:dcr�i_gncd. � A skctc.h of proi�esc� l�ropert�r ar�d su�;�ct.:re musT_ be diaam an1 attact•,�d, sho��iiig ti.c � , i� fo7lo�cing: 1. �ort�� l�u-.ct�on. 2 IocaTien oi proposcd sui�cturc rni thc loi. �� 3. Dimcn�ions of p�ropc�i.y, ,�;ono�c�1 �trucTui�. �_nd front �nd si-�lc setl��ct -. � 4. Stccct N:nncs. 5. Locat�on�:md :!�c o* ad3acent cxist�nt build�3igs �i��t�liin �06 Pcct.). 'I'he undcrsirn<�d hcrcl�y decla,-cs th;i: nll thc f,ctis and reprc;_enYatiens st:aLCd i_n tl�is nppli� �t�un ace triic and corrcct. �� 'y�-'� ;/v-� �r�� . � � �"'� r' „ ,� r�n�rE:_� : � =� t �_C> slcnrcru ;� � _ � � � «. ,�. *�_ � -� -- �, -- ---� --- �ni�;�i�c,,�.i.; i ,i:� , / �' ( � '.. �� U;�i-c I�il�d � �,'. �, � , /�;�.�;:TC o1= llearing � :� •�`' �_ -7—�----- _,, _._ __. _. � . - �� I'l,inn�n}� Cor�amission AE�.��;<r;al City i;ouncil Apprr,vcd_ (Qatc�;) U.nircl �------- (d;�tcs) Ih:nicd_- � � • MAILING LIST SP �i76-07 Nancy fdelbie Oay care center for 10 children Ed Chies 7651 Central Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Dale Thorp 1376 Osborne Road N.E. Fridiey, Mn 55432 �4r. & Mrs. Daryl Rollog 1391 Meado�moor Drive N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr, & Mrs. �Jilliam Sharp 1377 Meadowmoor Drive N.E Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. W. F. Tfiiel 7627 Central Avenue N.E. Fridiey, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Darrel Schmidt 1378 Meadowmoor Drive N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Richard Castro 1362 Meado4�rmoer Drive N.E. Fi°idley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. C. R. Hendrickson 1392 Meado�noor Drive N.E. Fridley, h1n 55432 Nancy Melbie 1346 Meadowmoor Drive N.E. fridley, Mn 55432 P�1r. & Mrs. Dcuglas Pavlik 7651 t+ieadov�noor Drive N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Richard Morin 7635 Meadowir.00r Drive h�.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Allyn 4eekman 7619 Meado�n,�oor Tcrrace N. G. Fridley, Mn 55432 Planning Commission_Q,�-�?3 - �� Mr. & Mrs. Albert Ossenkop 7603 Meadowmoor Drive N.E. Fridley, Mn 55A32 Mr. & Mrs. Ralph Schermann 1351 76th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Roger Qauer 1359 76th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55G32 Mr. & Mrs. Mar1yn Jeske 1367 76th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Melvin Doolittle 1375 76th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Vernon Larson 1383 76th Avenue fJ.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 sz N�4 CUR��ER S!'C, /�_—��_ _� _.. ;,� ::di:�f'��-l� ....-.._.f°; e^:�-'° �`F�—� i� Sa � 4 . . .� �� .� i :.,,.� � � � �;, i �,.. i.t.y:)a. �l . �°' �ea, R,aA �a q Fl ^, fi 'c. (' !,.,,� s � .a�W`:�.� �t.m�'�.�w .�e e . � � ,� � � .., , g� -, ��,g 40: .s `� b +: � zr' __>_• > _�E: , �.� /�y i � {-{° 4� 37 �� 13it v�', � ,,,,� O� O C �' I Z% ,:, 1�.�` �� 4 l� �i Lo �` �% ��ii ._ ,. �� I i i i 2� 4 i*r� � �� i o ,_' ' �a � Zl I __�: ? /� ;1 (7 ° �n , 53 SP #�76-07 NAIJCY MEL6IE 1346 Meauotivmoor Drive N.E. 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' '. . - : .,,. -, l -�- Y 2 [ := ` C�_ . �il._..,.iLJ.''�;�'u::i � i - ., __ _�. _ _.._.H___r..-_.,..._"�.-_'j _'_-_ . i 1'— i ��. .. .. . . . e e. ' j . ' I ' ! ._�.'.— i -_._'��•� __. e V i � OP'P'IC17�L NOTICE CITY OF ERIOLEY PUBLIC kIP�RItdG BF.FORE THF. PLA�TNZNG CODiP1ZSSION TO WHOM IT MAY COPdCERN: � 1�.. Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing o£ the Planning Commission of the City of Pridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, June 9, 1976 in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of: Consideiation of a Preliminary Plat, P.S. #76-05, Innsbruck Nozth Replat 3rc I�ddition, by Darrel ?�. Far�' D�velopment Corporati.on, beinq a replat of that part of Iimsbruck North Townhouses Third Addition, described as fo2lows: . Lot. 1 to 4 inclus;ive. '+loc� 'lt Lots 1 to 4 inci.�!nive, RLcc'r, 72t i,o?s 1 to 4 in^_liui-v„ 91oc4 ?3t Lots 1 to 4 inclusive, °.loc}: 24� Lots 2 !o ii lncl�i^�l.ve, ?.leek ?5� Lo+s 1 to 4 incius:ve, Dlcc!< ,_c�t � al-? thst isr* ��' t�t 1 Tloc 23 �' c �Sed t f�llowss. 3 ninni-�r ri,. ., ��n. -± ,� �. .1c�w ^1� t'.v,nce � Noctn o �ie.,,:�os ��J _i,...�,:: .�:con-- �.,�..,: a di.,!-ance o? 16 :cett thenee No C^ c'.r�P� J^, :; 1. � eond �;:s;t � c'xst�ne^ o£ � � :i3 feety tn � � .�<< -.h o ,lc ;:-i rt�u.es �+£J =econ" ^..st a dia�:,nce � of lo Pe:t L� t_c ioc� ._.� c�r��.r oi „=iiu Blacl< 21, tii_r,cc co the pninL o£ b:,,,inn't:�;;t a3_so that rnrt ci ?.ot l, lec�a 23 de�c.ii;ed as fol3.nvrs+ . 1'.e;;ir;^inT 't-. !^e � i .h -�. - � •.,r o .�:..id �lodr. 7.1� thence '!ort�i c _... i^ �'?cr:�_. .. �, c �:._-.:ce o? l0 f�cit thcr.r.e iiOYC`7 iij �._.1C�.- : L 't.:;i+^ .... _. 1-iID:�CJ o't" ,33 feett t?:t'^.Ce , o��r�� ;? i_ :.. ',3 ii��.. � .��r, .��re of i0 feet bo the no� �n- ist �r�� t�r ei 1.`,.. � .?2: rn�.:,ce to the pai?:t oP '�;inningl al"o thn` c.- r, o?' Ior 1, ;'� �- ?r. �__ rited as io1lo�.s� L . .Ri11.!1i`s � . r:}le? 1-.-� . ..., _.'r >t _.ld n10CY : < th- .ICC �OU F11 d�.,z�^s � n. ..,_ -_.,�._ oi' 6 icet,; 4h 1�� ;e�ath G� �;,,,-.::c , l..^.. ... .�_ o� j'3 fe�ti the�ica ile.:rth r� " � „ .,�� n ��, -�_�,z�- o{• 6 1'eei to '�• s�uthwest cor [ o.` A� .'1 ,� _� �o '�c }ioi'�t of La 1nning� alsp th�it - rC OP Tnt 1, lr -�_ .^.5 u_.1bed 'ts follv:ai I i . inn�.�� .r,--.. »_�.'�. ., < �. zr oi -� �-d �;lorA '23t thEncs So�ith � r�..>rees ( ,.:lr,�.i �.ti i.._. �. .... t 3 ui^ �.nco uf 1G �fcc*7 thi��ce :,�� tn �^ � -. � .. . > �.�t i•. ' --.co�� "e�^t e dlst�r�ce o° j3 icetl tt.-.i�' .JO r i ]�- ; 0:� i i _. L.: c.onda ,�'c vt a distance of 16 _ � fec�: to t!:e eo�itk�:�?st r.o:-:��,�t� r„ said 31cc:: 23t thencz to tt:e poSnt of te,�innin;°t � a�-o th-at p.zt of �� t, 1<c. ^; r�rrU„a -. Fnllo•.s� - � ��.inn n; t„ �o t �_� c�r�.r o �9 �Loc'; .^�t� thrnce �lorth �<<L �•;c r� 1, � ", ..xsl i`.t:�.�. E oi 33 rc<tt tt�ncc . Sou±.� ., u�. �..ncc o I� �'<<. In i�..i �ria:i �i cori�� uI :s1id J�uc; 2bi thence Lo th, point ol Uc::i.n�i.ii^t. . Page 2 5� - nl^o that�parC of I.ot I, 31oe;; 2i3 dc�cri6ed n� followa� - Be�;innint; nt. t):n :outli��:��6�corr�er of ❑aid ��toc4 25� thence South � 13 cSoRree 73 rii.nute. ;l � co»;; -� �t�.t.ncn of icS.Seet� thencn ;+orth pG �i�� r�,es �i na��tr � 19 sec o� rr.�C a rl:sc^nce o� j3 feet� . thence fJerth 1 j de ,re..._ 33 �1nuis�a.. 41 .,cr.onCs ca.�:t a distance of 16 feet to Lho �aa�thw�ent coi-��er of saici lslock 2�� thrnce to thr. point � 07' Uc�inni.nt;y also that par2 of Lot 1, 31cec 7� de;cribed as follows� Ber,inning� at '.'rie southeast coe-i�r oi s:iid 91ock 261 thenrr South 11-degrr,r� tyl mi�utes ll seco�d� t+'est n distnnce of 1G feet� tt�ence I�or�h 78 deP,recc 1:: z�inutas b'3 =+econds Yiest a dista�zcc of 33 fen'; t;,enc2 tlorth 11 derxcea !+1 ninutes 11 secondh �ast a riictancc� of lo feet t� 6he taouth:;rst corne: ol �aid Block 26t thence to the point of be„i_nninc,t � all lying ir, the South E[alf of Sertion 24, T-3�, R-24, City of Fridley, County of Anoka, t9innesota. . Generally located on the West side of East Bavarian Pass and South oL Meister Road N.F... . . Anyone desiriny to be heard �vith reference to the above matter will be heard at this meeti.ng. • Publish: May 26, 1976 Sune 2, 1976 � RICHARD �H. I-3ARRIS CHAIRMAIV PLANNSNG CUDL�7ISSIOV CT'I'Y Of PRIDI,i;Y DiINNES07'A 5� � PLANNING Ah'D '1.ONIIJG PORhI � NUDSfiER i� �- �l �� - C�,�`� 7'YPE OF REQUEST • APPLTC�1NT'S STGNA'fURi' ir;., ,''% r .-,T C<-�=� Rezoning Address �;! , " `• i ��-} `2 �� Special Use Permi_t Telephvne �'umbcr ` , ", `' : ' PROPLR'I'Y OlVNGR'S SIGNA'1'URI; _ — Address Telcphone Nmnbcr 5treci: Location of Froperty • � + _ I.e�al Pescription of Property � � �� i.,_ � Approval of Premin- inary f, Pinal Plat Streets or Alley Vacations Othcr _- N Fee�� R ceipt No.�t-��% Present 'Loning Classification Existing Use of Property Acreage of Property UescriUe Uriefly the proposed zonin� cl�ssi�ication or type of usc and i*nprover.rent proposcd_ - __ _ , , , °,,.�. --,r, _ . , :-:.: �i_ �__ .;, , i -- ----- --- � Ilas the present applicant prcvious]�� otight to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or variance or special use permit on tin� subject site or part.of it'?__qes no. {5'liat i��as reque�ted and t�hcn? __ _ ^ ` The ur,dersigncd understands Y.hat: (a) a list of all resi.dents znd owness of pro��crty w�thin .i00 feet (ti50 £eet Yor rc°onii��) mast be attache� to thi_s applicati.on. (b) This applicat�io�i musC 6e signeJ hy all owncrs �f the property, or an c�planatie,ri gi��en wh�r this �s not tl�e c:se. (c) Responsibi]ity for any dcicct in the proceec?inos resulCing fiom tl�e failurc to list ihc n�mes and addresses of all res:idents and prol�orty oimers of properTy i_n qucstion, hclongs to the wldersi�ned. � A sketc}i o£ proposed propert�� ancl sn'iicture must bc drawn nnd attaci�ed, sho:��in� tiie fol7orving: 1. �orth Direction. 2. I,ocation of proposed structw'e on the let. 3. Dimcnsion� of propert��, proposci structure, anS fi•ont and sidc setbncks.� 4, S,:i�cet Names. S. Location euid usc of adj:�ccnt existir.L btuldings (�ai.thi,n 300 fcet). 7'he mzdersigned hereUy dcclares that all the facts and represen*.atioiis st<ited i�t tliis applicatimi arc true nnd coz•rcct. DA'Cti S1G�.1T'UP.Ii - . ` - -- ,(AI'f'LIC�\�) --- � 4 Datc Pilcd _ Dat� of Ilcarir.g__ __ I'lanniug Commission Approvcd CiTy Council Apl>roved (datcs} pcnicd (datcs) Ucnied � • �..I � MAILING LIST 53�5 #l76-OS Darrel Parr Development Corp Rel�lat IIlocks 21-25 Co Lots 1-6 to allow 2- 2 car garages and 2 single car garages in each block Ms. Pamela J. Braun 5562 hieister Road Ld.E. Fridley, hln. 55432 Mr. Donald J. Kunshier 5558 Meister Road N.E. Fridley, Mn. 55432 Nir. Daniel Shaw 5554 Meister Road N.E. Fridley, Mn. 55432 Mr. Sames fIanson 5550 I•leister Road N.E. Fridley, Mn. 55932 Ms. Margaret Scho-�eizer 5596 Pheister Road N.E. Fridley, Mn. 55432 Mr. Karl Klopfer 5542 pieister Road N.E. Fridley, ifin. 55432 A1r. Step}len Tollison 5538 Meister Road N.E. Frid.l.ey, idn. 55432 Mt�. Patil Leibman 5534 P�eister Road P7.�. Fridley, Mn. 5543'l Ms. F�lice Shaughnessy 5530 Dleister Road N.L. Fridley, rin. 55432 Ms. Susan Sisson 5526 bieister Road N.E. Fridley, Pfn. 55432 Ptr. Donald olmstead 5522 Neister Road N.�. I'ridley, t+L�. 55932 DSr. 1�[arry ZooY, 551R ;�le�ister Road N.E. 1'riclley, pin. 55432 Mr. Kent 1Coch 5510 bie3.ster Road r2.L'. Fzidley, rIIi. 55432 . s� Planning commission :5'.2 5' 7(,, Mr. Robert Cargill 5510 Meistcr Road N.E. Fridley, Mn. 55�32 Mr. Richard Nafstad 5575 E. Bavarian Pass Fridley, Mn. 55432 Mr. Terry Wiley 5571 E. Bavarian Pass I'ridley, Mn. 55432 Ms. Mary Blisha SS6S S. Savarian Pass rridley, t-in. 55432 Mr. James King 5561 E. Bavarian Pass Pridley, Msn. 55432 Mr. Douglas Van Arkel 5563 E. Bavarian Pa,s Fridley, t�".n. 55432 Mr. Ronald Perkingstad 5567 E. Bavarian Pass Fridley, r;n. 55432 t��r. Thoinas lIum�el 5545 E. Bavarian Pass Fr.idl2y, I�in. 55432 h;r. Williar.� Goon 5541 E. I3avarian Pass Fridley, I•1n. 55�'i32 hfs. Ann Neher 5543 E. Bavarian Pass Fridley, hhi. 55432 Mr. J unes Pries 5547 E. Bavarian Pass Pridl.ey, Mn. 55432 Mr. M.urray Heatley 5533 E. Aavaria�i ?'ass Pridley, aLi. 5�932 t�1r. Wayne 73oY_liun 5535 L. f3.-ivarian Pass Fridley, P�tn, 55•432 Mr. Lynn Castnez & Ms. Aeonne Parker 5537 E. Bavarian Pass Fridley, Mn. 55932 Mr. Charles Franke 5529 E. Havarian Pass Fridley, Mn. 55432 Mr. Steven Kessel 5525 E. Bavarian Pass Fridley, Mn. 55432 Ms. 5hirley Dickey 5531 E. Bavarian Pass Fridley, Mn. 55432 Mr. John Becker 5521 E. &avarian Pass Pridley, Mn. 55432 Mr. Edward Engllind 5517 E. Bavaria.i�i Pass Fridley, D".n. 55432 �Mr. Gary Odegaard 5519 E. Bavariai; Pass Fridlep, Nin. 55432 Ms. Linda I3orry 5523 �. Davarian Pass Frinley, D1n. 5543"1_ Mr. Leonard Rutter 5540 E. Bavarian Pass £ridley, t�in. 55432 Mr. David Johnson 5544 E. Bavarian Pass F7idl-ay, Din. 55432 Mr_. Lorin S90ods 5542 P. Ravari_an Pas> Fridlc�y, Mn. 5`"i437. Mr. Richard S.htirl�e 557f3 ls. 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' 1'+ ,. � � ��. i ! ,•� _ i� r I 1 � 1 4_!- � 1 ^ - ,C � _—..� _ J � CZTY Or FRSDLEY • PETITION COVER, SIiEE9' � 1� � � �� PeL-iCion 11c,. 3-1476 Date IteceS.��cd flpril 2&', 197E; Objecc Request tt�e follo�.vina street clar�ficatfr>ri bc ineli�led -in the traffic- street jilan for tlie yea.r 1976:?�l'}'�Preserveyook�f.rec at ��/aironton St. to u��old +�;�;� tr�� cr:iSr�ance; 2) :'acaie Asliiori nor4Y� of Ironton St.� � ""3}�'�a�ate a3ra �nciuf`[;ig i�a.�Tr'oad cross.irig;: an�d'��}."CuTcTe-sac oii I}ontcn Str�zt. Peti�i_cns CLecked 13p � PeXCenl' Signing ,te£erred to Cit}� Council Disgosition lla4e T -.�.c-m,-� - � n�r�.i zo; I976 Mr. Nasim Qureshi. City Pianager Mr. Willivn Nee 23ay o r Members oE tha t�r'ldley Counc.il k'e 4he. imdersigred requesC the follo:;i.:�u streeL clarific.,t:iou be i.ncluded in CLe traffi.c-st.r.eet plsr. io�' Ch� pea7: J.976 Co i.nolude i:+1e foll�wing: yl) Preserve the oak tree at 275 Iroi�ton Si'reet to uphold the t.r.ee ordinance. 2} Vacace Ash[on nor*h of Ironton Street. � 3) Vacate S3rd inc3.udiu� railrorc'. crossing. � 4) CuI-de�sac or Ironton >treet (s^e map). 0 ,.�:, 3 � 5 � Nnr�: ' --'- ��. ....� _. % o (1 S.ci�-S°��L ��(-.,'°S .�3�L�.1 n �% v //�/ /�-�,; 1 �% �/{ $. r��•-•$.:-Lk=�i ^-.Gt—,�"+.�X.L�'%`-"%i'°.JfJy-eT,R f! 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Sobicch -7- 5/?(3/76 This 3G foo� sin•face �v�i�th r��s i,een rer.iuccd in ar,eas �vliere there was insuf�Picicnt ri�lit of a1�y, e;:cessivc ainounts of f511 ��rei°e re- quired, cr.t:cnsive Crce ren?ovat rrquirec.l, or due to c::cessive cost:s incui°rc��d I,� all coi:r, c:te stree�C consCruction, etc. Pian�� of the strcets Ll�at rrere �im;;roverl prior ��o tlie presei�t l0 ye�,r street iwprovc�n;nt pro;rain ��:cre canstruc.�.eJ at 31 feet sur�face a:idth with inCeg��ated biiuminous cur�b�ing, btl�en futus�e �improveiuerts occur on these sti-i�ets in i.he for�n of cuncrete curb and gutter place��,�.ent, this addition r+ill briny t:hcse existing 31 feet st5,eeis to the proposed 36 footi °standard" ti�idth, In sun;:na�-y, th� Cii;y of Fridlcy does h?vc certain standards for strect �ridU�s, but v:hen �iesin�;ii;g the ncu coristiruction or 9mpr�cveinents, thci�e are a n�n�ber of factcrs that a-�e an.�lyzrd ��hich, in son�e cases, �necess�ta�e a devia�:'ion fi-cn! the desired :��:d�h. Ih�� triyineer�inq Uivis�ion, oi� ner� plats, tvor.•s ciosel}� t��itli the Ce;:,��,:,;�niiy 0"��lo�;,�ent Di��s�ion in tl;e detc�°- min�;tion of sireai; i,�ic!ihs io er.sure �f�vl, the pi°oposed streets fit the neec's o� the area, l�o�h fro:�r ar, cnqi�c;-;�;ny vieai��oint as t-ie11 as the ec0?^;�'!CZ? c'.f1�! �pCiG-('r_.O��sC�'�:1C eS�?(iC1-5. If a fur•tf�er e>:planation is �e�ired, I ir�uld L,e h�,py to personally � ��espon�,. Tii l, % j �P � � ,ci� � �: , PLANNING CflMMISSION MEETING CITY OF F�iIDbEY JUIiS 9, 1976 PAGE 1 CALI. TO OBDFR: ChaiTmari HSt'ris .'called the meeting to order at 7:45 P.M. ROI.L CAI.L: Members Present: Harris, Bergman� Gabel Msmbera Absent: Leugenfeld, Peterson, Shea, Wahlberg Others Present: t,o lack of a rma v� no Jerrold Bosrdman, City Planner entire PI 3 be made APPROVE PLANNING COM+CCSSION MINUTF.S: MAY 19, 1976 Chairperson Harris asked if there vas anq discussion on the Plenning Commission minntes, and Mr. Boardman stated that every motion the Planning Commission cnakea ezcept xhen receiving material or opening or closing public hearings� or sending sonething dowtt to a member Co�mnission,should be a recommendation for approval by Council because the Planning Commiasion is only a recomwending body and eannot make final decisions. Mrs. Gabel ssid that on page 3� the last paragraph should have read Appeals Commission insiead of Planning Co�eission. RECTsN& IIiPIRONHSliTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:_ MAY 18, 1976 Cha3rperson Harris aeiked if there xas any informal discussion on this� and Mrs. Gabel asked how Petition No. 8-1976 came about. Mr. Boaz'dman enswered that it xas started by a group of people who live around Ruth Circle Park who vere concerned about total road develop�nent in that area. Mr, Boardmen pointed out that the hhvironmental Commission made some good points regarding the Yo�th Center. 8EC$IVE APP&ALS COlR�IISSI4N IiINUTES: MAY 25. 1976 Chairperson Harris asked if there xas aay discussion on the Appeals Co�maission minutes� and Mrs. Gabel stated that they did act on the Youth Center afier Ned Storla made his presentation, and made a motion that they xere in favor of it. 1. 2. Planning Commission Meeting - June 9, 1976 Pa�e 2 RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION MINUTES: MAY 21�, 1976 Chairperson Hsrris stated he thought there was a lot to be discusseds but without representation from the Parks and Recreat3on Commission it would he difPicult. Mrs. Gabel said that on page 11 oP their minutes it said that the Community Sehools had ofPered the Youth Center to come under their suspices� and it had been preaiously stated that the school board vas not interested in it, She asked for clarification on that matter. Hr. Boardman explained that the Co�mnunity Schools are different from the School Board, and they are the ones that made the offer. Mrs. Gabel asked vhat the Co�maunity Sehools do� and Mr. Boardman ansvered that they have the Fine Arts Co�nittee, theatricals, city bend, etc. He added that there xere people from District 1!t vrho were involved in Community Schools, but it is not necessarily tied to the School Board. Chai.rperson Harris noted that the Parks and Recreation Commission had formed a Recreation Study Project Co�nittee� and said that xhenever a project comnittee is formed it shonld be requested that the Chairperson of that Cormaission sulxeit the names of the people on the project comnittee so it could go to the City Council. Mr. Boardman said they wonld then keep a running aconnt of project co�mnittees and rrhat thep are active in, and the Commissions would be able to keep an up-to-date account of those co�ittees and aho vas involved. Mr. Bergman stated that the Co�nunity Deyelopvaent Couffii.ssion had two project cotmai.ttees nox; a sign committee and another for bike and xalkways, He sai.d that bike and sra].kways was a controversial topic and there vould be some discnssion on it, He commented that the one oa Mississippi Street looked like a txo-lane street instead of a bike lane. Mr. Boardman stated that the bike system was not oPficially opened yet, and that striping and signiag vere not completed yet, Mr. Boardman ezplained that the Connty ha+i agreed to a bike system and they had received some Federal monies that they had to spend or lose, and that is xhat they did. He tlirther explained that the monies set aside by the Federal Government xere Por edge striping. tSr. Bergman stated that a goodly share of those stripes that were put dovn vere in the xrong place, and many �rere xorn off already. Mr. Hoardmen said that was because they �ent through s vinter and xinters were very tongh on stripiag. MELHIE: To allow a child care ceater for ten children, per Frialey c�ty Co�ie� $ection 205.051, 3� F, in an lirl Zone (single family dwelling areaa), to be located on Lot 12, Block 3, Meadosmaoor Terrace Additioa, the same being 131t6 Headowwoor Drive N.&. Chairperson Harris i.nformed Mrs. Melbie that there �rasn't a quornm present so they could not hold a public hearing. She a�ked if this xould be reschednled for the next Planning Commission meeting, and he replied it wonld be, Lot 1� Block 28� 7nnsbruck North Toromhouses Third Addit3:on� to a11ov ehauge� in the size of garages, general.ly located on the West side of East Bavarian Pass and South of Meister Road N.E. Planaing Goauaiasion Meeting - June 9, 19i6 Page 4 Mr. Woods stated that if everybody used their garages as they ought to� there wouldn't be any problem. fie added that iP the donble garages were allowed, it should be mandatory that those people use their garages or there xould be no outside parking. He t�rther added that he jnst had to rely on past history with the vay the situation is now xhen people have parties attracting many gueat� and the resulting parking crunch. Chairperson Harris asked i£ he �as sa�ving that in an�y case there was not enough parking there, and Mr. Woods siated that if eeeryone parked ia their garage there would be enough parking� but they don't. Chairperson Harris said he understood they had a very viable Toxnhouse Assoc- iation, and suggested that through a little education and a publicity program they could help�o remea"y that situation.lir. Woods said perhaps they could, but rrhat he was saying vas that when he veat home he xould like to park relatively close to his own residence. Mr, Boardman asked horr many outside parking stalls aere provided per unit, and Mr. London replied there xere 2.25 parking stalls for everq unit. Mr. Boardmen suggested designating an ontside stall for every unit, but Kr. Woods said he didn�t think that xouid vork very well. He cited the example that if someone was having guests over and you came back to fi.nd your designated apace parked in� what could you do? He stated it would be a very difficult thing ta manage. Mr. Bergman asked if they had thought of any vqy to replace those txelve lost outside spaces� and kr. Londoa replied they hadn't. He ezplained it was suggested fairly recentlp that more garage space be provided, and he said he thought that the double garsges wnld sell. In fact, he said, many people asked if txo-ear garages were available, and at the present time they are not, Mr, London explained he had the surveyor take a look at it and asked xhat could be done without ruining the area, and this is what he came up vith. Ke said at least two spaces were left betxeen each garage, Chairperson Harria said that perhaps they could think about it for axhile� and at the next Planning Copaaisaion meeting so�ne concrete suggestians and recoimaendations could be made. R.�-EVALUATION OF STREET LAYOtTT NEAR NaRTH PARK {P�'TITZON 6-1976) Mr. Bergman stated he thought this xas very fully covered in the minutes of the Fhvironmental end Community Developnent Com¢at.asions meetings. He said the tvo Comsissions xere in fttll agreement that they ought not lose existing right-of-vays. Mrs. Gabel said that from reading those minutes there xasn't ac�ythixag in the future about a road, so she couldn't fhlly understand w}�y the people petitioned. Mr. Bvardman ezplained the people vhere trying to avoid a situation that could posaibly happen in the fliture. Chairperson Harris said that as Par as railroad crosai.ngs go, he uas not in favor oY one on 83rd� bnt felt there should be one on 79th� and £elt the one on 77th should be eliminated. Mr. Board�aan sai.d there xas a cul-de-sac at 79th� but was not sure what rould hagpen there. He said he would just as aoon see 77th eliminated end no crossing to East &iver Road, Mr. Harris said Planniag Coemission Meeting - June 9, 1976 Page 3 Mr. James I,onqrry representing Aarrel A. Farr Developauent Corporation, and Hr. I.orin Woods� of 5542 E. Bavarian Pass, Fridleq� vere present. Chairperson Harris explaiued that the Commission �ould be more than happy to discuss the petition inPormally bnt could not take any action on it at this meeting as they could not hold a Iublic hearing because of lack of a quorum, He ststed that the public hearing items Srould be rescheduled for the next meeting. Mr. London stated they xere aking for two �lonble garages and �vo single garages in each buildi.ng iastead of four single garages that they had nox. He said the ground cover Wonld be increased by 16� per building, and they felt the units vould be more salslal.� with that type of a double garage and that was their reason Yor it. He stated he had given this plan to the Presideat oP the Tornhonse Association some time ago� and also to the Architectvral Control Coimnittee Chairman, Jerrq Andersoa� and hadn't received az�y negat3ve responses from either one. Hr. Woods said that since neither of those gentlemen could attend the meeting he had been invited to come in their place� and he felt that since the pnblic heering had to be postponed until a later date he would rather have one of them state their position sinee he had gotten this seeond-hand and didn't have a chance to look over the plans h3mself. I4r. London asked what his feelittgs were on it, and Mr. lfoods stated that he li7ed adjacent to vhere the first set of garage stalls xould be built end his wa peraoaal opinion xas that he xas against it. He asked what was the present spacing between the garages that are presently constructed, and Mr. London sai.d the spac3ng betve� the garages varied. He said it seemed there w.ere a minimum of three parking.spaces betweea any garage aad sometiaies fonr. Mr. Woods said that if they Went along xith the plans it tirould eliminate at lese4t one parking space for guests, and this was essentially the biggest eoraplaint against aeeing the garage sizes increased. He continued that nany times people xho owned gareges still lei't their cars out Yar convenience resaons. 14r. London asked ho�r this afY'ected Mr. Woods, aad 1u�. Woods replied that one oi' the larger garages �rould be rig�t beside his dvelling. rjr. London said yes� tnere xould be� but that garage is being added to awaq Yrom t�r. Woods� block rather than tovards his side. He stated it aYYected the people in lilocks Yive and six in that there vould be larger garages across the street. Chairperson Harris asked if these units had sutomatic garage door openers, aad Mr. London replied that a fesr did� tmt tha majority didn't. Mr. Harris said he was vonderiag i£ they veren�t made an option but vere part of the deal if cars vould be put ax� aiore oYten� aa�d thought this might be a partial solution, iir. London agreed that it might help. Mr. Woods said that evea assuming the garage door openers xere put on� the amount oP parking �paces betxe� the garages rrould indicate that people vho have two cars ►rho have single garages are still �oing to f'ill up those spaces making a parking problem for the guests oY the units. Mr. London said they had °%" amount of parking spaces xhether the cars are itt the garages or in the parking lot, and what it does is reaerve a parking area in a garage for someone r�ho rants to broy it that way. Mr, Woods stated that he could understand why they wanted to put i.n double garages� bnt as it existed now the a�unt of space that is there rrould make it rather i,ncoavenient and difficult. He added that the space for parking was at a premium now srith single car garsges� and he could see it xould still be at a premium as most peopl� have txo cars and �ometimes boats, recreational vehicles, and that sort of thing. Planniag Co�ission T[eetiag - June 9, 1976 Page 5 he would a�ree bnt he had some neighbors xith different vierrs� but he didn't lmow what their reasoning vas off-hand. Mr. Boardman sai.d that he ironld like to see industrial property completely cut ofY from East River Road. As far as 83�1 goes� he stated, he didn't anticipate ever seeing a railroad crossing there. He said there xere major transportation routes that serviced that area (132� IIaiversity and Osborns) and he didn't see any need Por any more service. Chairperson Harris said there xas some pressure from people in the area that they need another cx» ss3ng� and Mr. Boardman said he would have to hear their reasoning on that. He stated it xas a verg well-serviced area and there vould be a signal at 81st, STHEET WIDTH STANDARDS Mr. Bergraan stated that for planni.ng purposes it seemed clear to him tnat they should talk in terms of right-of-ways oY 66� 60 and 50 £eet, and tl»se fignres onght to be applied. Mrs. Gabel said that street xidths seemed to be a rather arbitrary thing, and developers were told different things. She felt the criteria ahould be the same. Mr. Boardman explained there rrere standards that are set np� but the City Conneil chooses to change those standards. Mr. Ber�an asked how mas�y feet per traffic lane bailt up to a 36' width, and Mr. Boardman answered there ti+ere ts►o 10' driving lanes snd trro 8' parking lanes. Mr. Bergman said that is xhat vas backed doxn to when a better situation xa5n't avails6le� auad Mr, Boardman said if they couldn't get what should be there they could drop do�+n to certain xidths� such as 2�t' r+ith no parking lanes. Chairperson Harris said the thing he objected to xas the vay people vere asseased for their streeta, and stated he didn't feel it xas fair. Mr, Hoardmaa stated that a standard shonld be sst up that 31' streets shonld be posted "dlo Perking" on one side. Chairpersoa Harris said that xas correct, and added that if the streets.rrere running straight it vas a different ball game. He said the long streets that the houses face on shonld be 36� straets end the cross streets should be 31' streets, and if everything vas mm�ing in nice little squares that T,ronld be fine� but enrved streets xere different. He stated that unless there vere long curves people didn't park right aext to the cur�e� so eurved streets 3hould be vider then straight streets. t4rs. Gabel said she agreed� but that seemed like an excuse to make the streets narroxer. I�Ir. Bersaan said that another philosophy rae that on streets �rhich the houses face you Kant to discourage traffic and encoura�e it on the cross streets to make them the collector streets. He said they have some in Colnmbia Heights at the reqnest of the citizeas to slox dorm the cars. Chairperson Harris said it aeemed ridicnlons to go throngh the acrobatics of providing off-street parking and then put ia 36' streets. Ms'. Boardnan said that vas a point� and wndered xhy a 50' street was nesded in an indnstziel area where of£-street parking has to be provided. Nir. Bergman said that xas a relief factor, becanse xhen iadustry makes ita plans it doesn't always stay within the pmposed head count and they can rnn out oP parking space. He said they have had thi� problem at Univac. Planttisg Comreission Meeting - June 9, 1976 Page 6 Mr. Bergmen said that another element to thia vas the safetq Yactor, kids riding bikes, youngsters walkiag armmd parked cars� etc. Mr. Harris said he wouid mueh rather see a 21t' street vith sidewalks than a 36' street, He seked whq 28� or 2lt� sireets xorked in Innsbruck aad not elsevhere� and Mr. Boardmaw said they probably could, Mr. Harris said he xould �ch rather see them go to a 28� concrete street than a 36� asphalt street because of nainten- ettce problems, Mr. Boardman said another thing thzy might want to consider vith regard to street xidth waa the honsiag plan. He said that the larger the street the more asseasment there �as per strncture� and if people�s ability to pay according to income level vas considered, pernaps those streets should be dropped back in low and moderate income level areas so they could more easilp afford the street system, Mr. Boardroen stated that in a residential area provisions had to be made tor some form of parking on the street, and suggested cut-ins. Mr. Bergmen said that Stinson Boulevard had done that ir3.th the cut-ins, and Mr. Boardnan said the reasoA they d3d that xas becsuse it vas alao their bikeway system vihich they have separated £rom the road. He added that it �ras very attractive and it vould be xiice to see that in some residential areas to aee if it xould work. Mr. Bergaan asked Srhat someone xonld guess oa the curb to curb rridths and parking cut-ont widths on Stinaoa� and Mr. Boardman said it vas probably a 2!t' road driving surface xith 8' cnt-onts. Chairpersott Harris said that if yre had narroxer streets and are encouraging off-street parking� xe are setting a donble standard. Nr. Ber�an stated that the street parking xas necessary for gaests Yor parties, etc.� end i�r. Harris said that not every house in the block xas goi.ng to have a party on thm same night. He said that �rhat vss happening now xiT.h 3b' streets vas inatead of the garage being nsed for its intended purpose� it ia being used for boat�� body shops� etc.� and the cars end up on the street. He said perhaps what they shonld be doing is reco�endi.ag larger accessory bnildings. Hr. Boardman said that as Yar as street xidths go� most streets 3b the city are ia, cnrbed and guttered� and he dida't see xhere a lot of conversatiott xas going to aake the atreets aarroxer. He said he felt discussion on standards vas a little late. Mr, Bergmaa-said he suppoaed their discuasion on this xould carry over until the next meeting, but he xas vondering �rhat their conclnsion ought to be on their concern about street sndths; merelp an off-hend suggestion, a reaolution or a policy statement. Chairperson Harris said he thonght a policy statement. He said he thoaght the city should have a policy and should follox it. CODITI�IUffi1: RECOZ4�ENDATI0ITS 0�! HUMAB DEVEIAPNE!{T G4ALS AnD OBJECTIVES Mc:.Boardmaa said he had xanted to talk about D-100 wh3ch concerned Parks and Hecreation, but didntt think the Co�oission Trould vant to discnss it at this meeting since there xasxi�t a representative from the Parks snd Recrea- tion Commission present. Cha3rperson Harris sgreed, and said he did have some qnestions for the Parks and Recreation Comni.ssion. Ae referred to the recreation aetivities expenditures inPormation ehich had been handed ont at the last meeting, and said that in � . . : ,_._...� � .. , Plarusing Co�iasion Meeti.ng - Jvne 9, 1976 page 7 sdre of those areas there rras more in administrative costs and for ofPicials than was spent on the rest of the vhole program� and he vould like to lmok how they got there. Mr. Hoardman said that the program didn't go tovards individual unorgani2ed aetivities, and Mr. Bergman sai.d something should be prov3ded Por youngsters Wlao vreren't good in team sports. Hrs. Gabel said she thought recreation ahonld encompass more than jnst sports. Chairperaon Harris said he understood the problem because there vas a lot of pressure in Fridley for hockeq� softball, etc.� but no one exerted pressure for nnorganized activitiea so they didn't happen. Hrs. Gabel said that the Parks and Recreation Go�ission stated they don't have enough moneq to appropriate in their budget for a Youth Center� but in the minutes of the last meeting they offered $900 that vasn't even asked for towards the building of a shed to store hockey and softball equipment. She said it made her Yeel the city is too sports oriented, and something should be done. Chairpersoa Harris said he felt Fridley conld use a good municipal sx'�'� ares. He sa3d that Richfield had taken their liquor fund and put it into a capital improvements fund and built municipal pools� the city hall, a skating arena, varming houaes� tennis conrts and a nature center, and maintain them out of the liquor £und. He said that part of Fridley�s liquor fund went to build a very expensive liquor store, which has no design and no customers. Hrs, Gabel suggested better-designed buildings should be encouraged and pnshed for, �nd Mr. Harris said they vere actnally discouraged because the taxing atructure discouraged good design. Mr. Boardman Pointed out that the taxing structure rras the same in �'ridley as in Nev Brighton end other co�unities srhieh had Srell-desigaed buildings. ADJOORNFIENT Chairperson Harria informally adjanrned the meeting at 10:22 p.m. Respect11i3.1y su�nitted, �.Aonnii � � Y� �.i�� Sherzi 0'Dons►ell Secretary �'`�., � �'.�� _ �Y�`� - �T/ � %�,�% �� C��"�- (�/4 �-o `y�'�-- �`� 1�Y� n _ .�- , �� P �a B� 7d � o�-•�. �� 2�� s� 4a 8 S S¢ 2-- � , ��ti. �a-�-a ��z�k�� .lrrr�