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AMENDED
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMI5SION MEETING FEBRUARY 23, 1977 7:30 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER: � PA6ES
ROIL CALL:
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: fEBRUARY 9, 1977 7- 15
7, LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L.S. #77-01, ABLE WELDING INC.: 16 - 17
Split of t e Sout 5 feet of Lot , Block 1, naway
Addition (7860 Main Street N.E.) and add to Lot 8,
Block 1, Onaway Addition, (7840 Main Street N.E.)
to be used as part of a parking lot.
2. RECEIVE P1EMORANDUM FROM DAVID NEWMAN TO UIRGIL HERRICK 18 - 20
3. RECEIVE LETTER FROM JIM HARRINGTON, COMMISSIONER, MINN- 18 - 20
ESdTA DEPA ENT 0 T NSPORTATI N, DATED FEBRUARY 8,
1977
4. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: AT MEETING
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ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES
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Copies of existi�g and proposed Chapter 2l2 and existing
and new land alternation/mining permit application.
6. PROPOSED REGIONAL TRAILS POLICY PLAN FROM ME7ROPOLITAN AT MEETING
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REGIONAL SPECIAL USE POLICY PLAN
CONTINUED: PROPOSED MAINTENANCE CODE
RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINU7ES: FEBRUARY 15, 1977
RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCE COMMISSION MINUTES:_ FEBRUARY 3
11. OIHER BUSINESS:
ADJOURNMENT:
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City of Fridley
� AGENDA
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETIN6 FEBRUARY 23, 1977
CALL TO ORDER:
R06L CALL:
APPROVE PLANNING COMPIISSION MINUTES: PEBRUARY 9, 1917
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Addition, (7860 Main Street N.E.� and add it to Block
8; Block 1, Onaway Addition, (7840 Main Street N.E.)
to be used as part of a parking lot.
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Copies of existing and proposed Chapter 212 and existing
and new land alteration/mining permit application.
*See Environmental Quality Camnission mi�utes.
5. CONTINUED: PROPOSED MAINTENANCE CODE
6. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMTSSION MINUTES: FEBRUARY 15, 1977
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 1977
CALL TO ORDE6:
Chairperson Harris called the meeting to order at 7:38 P.Hf.
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ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Harris, Bergman, Peterson (arrived 8:15), Schnabel, Shea
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Langenfeld
Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROVE PLANNING C0:�IISSION MINUTFS: JANUA.RY 19, 1977
MOTION by Bergman, seconded by Shea� that the Planning Commission minutes
of January 19, 1977 be approved.
Mrs. Schnabel noted that on page 11, the third paragraph, there should be
a comma after the word "continuing".
UPON A VOICE VOTE� all voting aye� the motion carried unanimqusly.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED P�LI?•lINARY PLAT, P.S. //77-�1, ARNAL
BY ARNOLD AIVD ALVAN TOi:JS: �eing a reptaL oz tinaL parti oi cne osv 4 ��
the NE y of Section 3, lying !�lesterly of the Westerly rignt o£ way line
of Burlington Northern, Znc.� lying Easterly of the Easterly right of way
line of Ashton Avenue and lying Southerly of a line described as follows:
Commencing at the intersection of the South line of the SW 4 of the NE 9
and said Westerly right of way line; thence on an assumed bearing of
N. 18°26�10"W, along said Westerly right of way line 293•25 feet to the
actual point o£ beginning; thence on a bearing of West 292.20 feet to
the Easterly right of xay line of Ashton Avenue, and there terminating�
the same being 8101 Ashton Avenue N.E.
MOTION by Shea� seconded by Bergman, that the Planning Commission open
the Public Hearing on Proposed Preliminary Plat P.S. �77-01, ARNAL ADDITI�N�
By Arnold and Alvan Toews. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson
Harris declared the Public Hearing open at 7:Ltl� P.Mr
Mr. A1 Toews was present and stated that Arnal Addition did not need all
the land they had� but their neighbors� Berkeley Pump Compeny� needed more
room and wanted to bqv 1� acres. He explained this had never been recorded
Planning Corr¢nission Meeting - February 9� 1977 Page 2
a§ being private property, so this was what they had to do.
Mrs. Schnabel asked if Berkeley Pump had ever attempted to purchase this �
property before, and Mr, Toews replied that this was the first time. Nrs.
Schnabel said the reason she was questioning this was she Imew Berkeley Pump
had a'request £or a variance coming through the Appeals Commission on that
same property, and Mr. Toews said he was aware of that.
Chairperson Harris asked if Mr, Toews knew i£ it was the intention of
Berkeley Pump to put an addition on, and he replied that he didn't think
it was their plan to add on. Mr. Toews added he didn't }mow i£ they could
add on i£ they wanted to because there was an easement involved, Chairperson
Harris said a site plan had been submitted to the City £rom Berkeley Pump
dated January 31, 1977, which showed a proposed addition. He noted that
it was zoned Industrial.
Mrs. Schnabel said that in reference to this, the existing building was on
Lots 3, �t and 5, and at one point they had wanted a permit to add on to the
West side of that building. She explained they were denied that permit,
but were granted a permit to add on to the North side o£ the building.
Chai.rperson Harris said it appeared from the plat that Berkeley had taken
into account the 10' drainage and utility easement on the Easterly side of
the property. He noted the property was an acre and a hal£, so it did
con�orm with the zoning requirements. Pirs. Schnabel pointed out this had
been rezoned to Ml in 1971t. After some discussion on if the zoning was M1 �
or M2, Mr. Bergman said it should go into the minutes that this was being
considered an M1 property,
Mr. Bergman asked what the variance was for, and Mrs. Schnabel explained
it was a setback variance to reduce the building setback £rom lOQ� to 73'.
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MOTION by Schnabel� seconded by Shea� that the Planning Commission close
� the Public Hearing on Propose Preliminary Plat P.S. #77-01, Arnal Addition,
by Arnold and Alvan Toews. Upon a voice vote, all voting a}re� Chairperson
Harris declared the Public Hearing closed at 7:58.
MOTION by Shea� seconded by Hergman, that the Planning Commission recorunend
to Council approval o£ Proposed Preliminary Plat, P.S. J/77-01, Arnal Addition�
by Arnold and Alvan Toews: Being a replat of that part of the SW 4 of the
NE 4 0£ Section 3, lying Westerly of the Westerly right of way line of
Burlington Northern, Inc., lying Easterly of the Easterly right of way line
of Ashton Avenue and lying Southerly of a line described as follows:
Commencing at the intersection oF the South line o£ the SW 9 of the NE 4
and said Westerly right o£ way line; thence on an assumed bearing of N.18°26�10"W�
along said Westerly right o£ way line 293.25 feet to the actual point of
beginning; thence on a bearing of West 292.20 £eet to the Easterly right of
way line of Ashton Avenue, and there terminating, the same being 8101 Ashton
Avenue N.E. Upon a voice vote� all voting �ye� the motion carried unanimously.
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� 2. PUBLIC HEARING: COA'[h;UNITY DEVEIAP:�fENT BLOCK GRANT PREAPPLICATION
MpTION by Bergman� seconded by Schnabel, that the Planning Commission open
the Public Hearing on the Community Development Block Grant Preapplication.
Upon a voice vote� all voting aye� Chairperson Harris declared the Public
Hearing open at $:02.
Mr. Ned Storla was present.
Mr. Boardman explained to the Commission that in 196lt the 0£fice of Housing
and Urban Development grouped al.l o£ their funding possibilities into one
lump sum and called iY a Block Grant, instead of having twelve or thirteen
separate grants. Out o£ that Block Grant� he continued� were entitlement
cities and discretionary funds; the entitlement cities got an automatic
grant out oY those Block Grant monies� and the discretionary i�u�ds were
then opted For by all other bodies that want to try to get monies. h's.
Boardman said that what they were going through now was the preapplication--
this is an application to HUD to see if they could gei invited to make
application for monies,
Mr. Boardman informed the Cocrmiission that a public information meeting had
been held about a week ago on the preapplication form as to what type of
projects were eligible for i�nding and this type or thing. He said that
� actual],y there were three categories� but the two that were of main concern
were:
1. Acquisition of real property for redevelopment, parks� or any
other public purpose permitted by state and local larr.
2, Acquisition.construction or reconstruction of public works such
as neighborhood and community centers, streets� strezi lights�
wells� water and sewer lines, and pedestrian malls,
He said that some of the other eligible activities were code enforcement;
demolition, clearance or rehabilitation of buildings; relocation costs; and
administrative expenses.
Mr. Boardman explained that the application was judged according to a certain
100 point scale process� and the criLeria by which the preapplications were
judged were mainly based on low and moderate income housing statistics.
Mr. Bergman asked if that meant if a city had enough low and moderate incorne
housing they would have a better chance of getting money, and Mr. Boardnan
said that was right.
Mr. Bosrdman said there were £ive criteria for selection. The first one
was based on the extent and percentage of poverty and substandard housing�
and a city could get 20 points maximum. He explained that five points would
be aj,.arded for each of the following factors: l. F�ctent (number of poverty
� persons)� 2. Percentage of poverty persons� 3. Extent (number) of
substandard housing units, and l�. Percentage of substandard housing units.
r1r. Hoardman said that each city was based on every other community in the
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metropoliLan area, and got a certsin number of points on that scale.
Mr. Boardman stated that the second areafor criteria was the benefit of the �
project to low and moderate income families, with 35 points maximum, The
third criteria� he said� was the expansion and conservation of low or moderate
income housing stock, with a maximum of 25 points, The fourth was if there
was a condition which was a serious threat to health or safety and the project
did something to prevent that (10 points maximum),.and the last was that
points would be awarded when the funds would be used in combination with
funds from other Federal or State sources (10 points ma�cimum).
Mr. Boardman said that the activities that had been set up for the pre-
application were mainly;
1. The development and enforcement of a Housing Maintenance Code -
$21t �000.
2. The development of a Rehabilitation Grant Program -$100,000,
3. The development and operation of a Housing and Maintenance Resource
Center and Workshop - $6,000.
He stated that there were several stipulations: the grant couldn't be directed
toward a city-wide operation, it had to be directed to more of a neighborhood
pperation; and any rehabilitation grants or loans had to be done in connection
wiEh some city work in the area, such as a street improvement program. He �
said the grants could be tied in with a street improvement program i£ the
program had been done a year be£ore or scheduled £or a year ahead, f�ir.
Boardman statect that in Primary Focus Area II a street improvement project
had gone through last year, and in the Hyde Park area (Primazy Focus Area I),
a street improvement program was scheduled £or next year, so those two £ocus
areas wou2d fit within the criteria of rehabilitation.
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Mrs. Shea asked if the compiled statistics weie based on the whole city or
just the certain areas that would receive the money. Mr, Boardman said that
the criteria was for within the areas.
Mr. Bergman wondered how many of the public attended the public meeting held
last week� and Mr, Boardman said there were about 11� people, three of which
were not connected with government.
Mr. Bergman noted that there would be a preapplication made to the State
Office of the Federal HUD Department £or $2it�000 £or the development and
enforcement of the Housing riaintenance Code. Ae said that the City had
alreac�y spent six months or more developing this code� and asked if they
were already spending some of that $24,000, hir. Boardman said no, that the
monies would be strictly for the enforcement of the Housing Maintenance Code.
He said they couldn�t get money to pay for something they had already done.
Mr. Bergman asked if there was some history that said proceeding with the
development of a Huusing Code at city expense and then requesting funds for �
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� the enforcement of same had a more successful ri.ng to it (stood a better
chance of getting the money) than holding off on the development and request-
ing financing for both. Mr. Boardman commented that it was hard to say, but
he thought they did look more favorably on something that already had money
spent on it as they wanted to make sure the project was off the ground.
Chairperson Harris said that socnething about this bothered him, and asked
Mr. Boardman to go over the Focus Points again. Mr. Boardman explained
that Focus Area I was North of Holiday Village between Main Street and
University up to 61st (the Hyde Park area)� and Focus Area II was 61st to
53rd between 7th And University. Chairperson Harris asked i£ those were
priority one and two, and P�'s. Boardman said that was correct. Mr. Harris
said that it seemed to him that this proposal may be contradictory to Focus
Area I in its present zoning, hir. Boardman said that only about half of
that was zoned Cor,unercial� if that, and at least half was still residential
and was zoned as such. Air. Harris said that until they got that situation
straightened out one way or another, maybe they ought to delete the C2 area
from the Focus Area.
Mrs. Schnabel said she disagreed with that, She stated there was residenti�
in the C2 that was really going to ruin because those people couldn�t get
any kind lf loans to rehabilitate their housing. Chairperson Harris said
the problem was they were running contradictory to the zoning codes by doing
this. Mrs. Schnabel said i£ the C2 wasn't included in the program £or
� rehabilitation� she was afraid that area would get even worse and the surround-
ind areas wouldn't i.mprove tneir property, either.
Mr. Boardman stated that they were really not going in contradiction to what
the zoning ordiY�ance said, He added that upgrading or rehabilitating the
property was allowed, but the use could not be expanded. Chairperson Harris
said the thing that disturbed him was he felt they would be perpetuating
the situation down there i£ they did this. Ae said that i£ they kept
promoting rehabilitation and upgrading of the residential area� it never
would go to C2.
Mr. Bergman commented that it sounded to him like an example xhere a city
administration-sponsored rezoning might be a wise move. Chairperson Harris
said he discussed that with some Council persons and the consensus o£ opinion
was that be£ore the City would initiate a rezoning action there� they would
like to see a petition from the af£ected residents and get their feelings.
He said it seemed like they were running kind o£ contradictory here; i£
they were going to preserve the integrity of a residential neighborhood it
Nould be one thing, but it uas not really a residential neighborhood, rfr.
Boardman said it was a residential neighborhood as the existing use was.
Mrs. Schnabel asked what the proportion of residential versus coimnercial was
in that C2 area� and Mr. Boardman said it was about 80� residential,
Mr, Bergman asked how they ever got single family in a C2 zone. Mr. Boardman
� explained that it was zoned R3� then in 1968-1969 the residents along there
petitioned £or a rezoning to Commercial thinking that they could sell their
property for great profits. He added that they had a consultant do a report
on that and he recommended against Commercial zoning in there, but the City
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Council at that time did their own study on it and came up with the exact �
opposite, and rezoned it Commercial.
Mr. Peterson asked how deep the C2 was from slst, and Mr. Boardman replied
about a block and a half deep. Mr. Peterson said he traveled that street
quite a bit and found it hard to believe that that property would ever be
choice residential area. He added he thought there was some justification
for leaving 1t Commercial, He said there was quite a bit of traffic and
noise in that area, and it was going to continue to be a problem. He further
added that it was not an R� area by defi.nition in terms of what they felt
people should be living in. Chairperson Harris commented that there was
quite a bit o£ Coimnercial in there when he stopped to think about it, and
he was uncertain aSout this whole deal. Mr. Peterson stated that in his
mind that was not R1 property� and they were just kidding themselves because
people were not going to be happy with the noise on University.
Chairperson Harris said that maybe what they should be doing is looking at
this as some other zoning. Mr. Bergman said it would seem odd to him� if
he was HUD� to receive a request to aid housing that was on property that
had just recently been rezoned to Commercial. He said he thought something
ought to change, although he wasn't sure what. Chairperson Harris said
that was what had been bothering him.
Mrs, Schnabel sai.d she thought that the City should make up its mind which
w�y they wanted to go with this area, and if they didn't want to rezone it
back to R3 then it was useless to go through this application. A1r. $oardman �
commented that he thought the City had put quite a burden on those people;
they had come in to get it rezoned, and the City shouldn't have gone along
with them. He said the City should have used its better judgement, based
on the consultant�s reports, and not rezoned it Commercial. He stated that
the road patterns were poor and not geared toward Commercial property, so
if the City manted that to go with Co�ercial properLy they �vJOUld have to
take initiative on it through street improvement. p1r. Boardman added that
if the City went along with the scheduled street improvement plan in that
area with the road pattern that was presently there� it would practically
kill any Commercial development in that area.
Mrs. Schnabel said that she felt that the residents in the area living in
owner-occupied homes had something at stake� and that was their neighborhood
was deteriorating and that deterioration was encroaching on those owner-
occupied homes. She said that somehow or other those people would like to
have that area preserved and upgraded to protect their own property.
Chairperson Harris suggested that perhaps they should be looking at a
special zoning £or that area. Mr. Boardrian said at present there were
three zones there: R2 primarily along blst; R3, which was the balance of
property between Main Street and 21-� Street; and Commercial in the inverted
°I,° shape bordering University.
Mr. Bergman said that one clean approach would be to limit this appZication .
to the presently zoned Residential portion of the block, but Mrs. Schnabel
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� disagreed. She said there xere private family dwellings that vere being
rented out that were in the Commercially zoned area� and that xas the area
that was deteriorating so badly. She asked if they wanted to let it just
fall apart with the hope that those people would sell their property commercially,
Mr. Peterson cormnented that if the area xas upgraded there would still be
problems because of the traf£ic noise, and Chairperson Harris added that
if it was upgraded it would just perpetuate the situation.
Mr. Bergman said he thought it was a zoning question. He said that i£ the
zoning shown on a map was good zoning, then they should face up to it. Chair-
person Harris asked whoever said it Was good zoning, and said that maybe
what they needed was something like a_planned unit development.
Mr. Boaxdman stated that if the City went along with Commercial, the only
way Commercial would develop would be with a renewal project. The City
would have to purchase the property, bulldoze it down, and put it up for
sale with a new road pattern. He said that the units that are along a lot
of that Corvnercial property are apartment buildings--buildings on a Commercial
property that would have to be torn down in order to rebuild. He continued
that the lot situation in the area rtas an old plat type thing, similar to
the Onaway area� and the street pattern was poor for Corimercial development.
Mrs, Schnabel said that iT the City applied £or a Block Grant and it became
]mown that monies were available for rehabilil-ation, some people would take
advar�tage oP it and some would choose not to. She said that there may be
� a number of those particular dwellings that were getting in poor condition,
and those owners might choose not to apply for a loan on the chance they
could still sell the property for a commercial venture. She stated that
those residents who did decide to apply would have to be aware of the type
of zoning they had and that there was a possibility that there was a chance
that commercial property may go in. She said she didn't necessarily think
they should eliminate that area From the rehabilitation progr,am� but thought
the people living there had to be aware of what their zoning problem was.
Mr. Boardman comr.tented that he thought there would be a point in the near
future when the City would have to make a commitment in that area either one
way or another, He said the Hyde Park issue had been brought up time and
time again, and a study had been done a couple of years ago to see how it
should be developed. Mr. Boardcian said the City would have to make a decision
on it at some point in time� and i£ they were going to go with Corunercial
they should start taking a look at redevelopment in the area. He said that
if they don't want redevelopment in the area� they caill have to face up to
the fact that it will never be Commercial, but would be a real mess.
Mr. Bergman said he dic��t believe the City would ever make a cor�mitment.
He thought that if anything changes it would be because a commercial developer
came along and wanted that property to develop. Mr. Boardman said that the
problem with that was it was not good planning and was not good for the City,
and they would end up with a mix o£ uses in there that were not necessarily
good neighbor uses. Mrs, Shea commented that she thought the City would
� have to decide within the next month which way they wanted that area to go.
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Mr. Bergman said he thought the problem was they were ta2king about putting
money into R1 and R3 property in a present C2 zone, He said he did feel
fairly comfortahle with the thought that as far as the preapplication grant �
went� it should not include requesting money to put into residential
property in a present and recently rezoned C2 area,
Mr. Boardman said he thought they could safely maintain this application
mainly because the areas they were applying £or were block rg ouP areas,
He said that whether it was Commercial or had no Commercial , it was a
hlock group area. He explained that the boundaries for the Primary Focus
areas were the boundaries because the data that was available for the
areas was based on that boundary area.
Mrs, Schnabel said that she disagreed with Mr. Bergman, and felt there was
a lot of potential for housing in that area. She said it was not a total
commercial area, and felt there were residential iulits (whether they were
R1 or R3) within that Focus Area that needed rehabilitation that might be
accomplished through a low-interest loan or a grant of some type to get
the property upgraded. She said there vrere some homes that were very nice�
and those people would like to preserve their neighborhood.
Mr. Bergman asked if this grant would give the property owners the opportunity
to get a low-interest loan. Mr. Boardman replied no, this would be a direct
grant and would cost them nothing if they met the criteria. He said that
he doubted very much if the City would want to get involved in the low-
ir:terest l.oan businesss but the City would do the screening for the grants.
He stated that out of this $130,000 program, money could be used for adminis- �
trative costs.
Mr. Bergman asked what was expected of this body on this subject, and Chair-
person Harris said the Commission should recommend to Council either their
concurrence� concurrence with changes or their disapproval. Ae_explained
the Council was looking for some recommendation from the Planning Commission�
and that recommendation had to be given tonight as the dead�ine was rebruary
18, 1977.
Chairperson Harris cited an eacample of a house in a C2 zone that met all of
the criteria for a direct grant. He said that if this property owner received
a grant of $5,000 and upgraded his house, raising its market value by $5,000,
this would be a non-con£orming use in a C-2 zone perpetuated by the City.
Mrs. Schnabel pointed out that they also had a goal to provide low and moderat,e
income housing in the City. Chairperson Harris said that i£ they wanted to
perpetuate non-conforming use in a different zone� then maybe that zone was
not the correct one. Mr. Boardman explained that a non-conforming use was
allowed in a dif£erent zone and was allowed to remain a non-conforming use
as long as that use did not expand� although it could be maintained and
upgraded. Mr. Harris asked why it should then be a non-conforming use, and
Mr. Boardman explained that t:�ey didn't want that non-conforming use to
expand or get larger. He explained that if there was a non-con£orming
Commercial use in a Residential area� that Commercial would not be allowed
to expand with another addition to perpetuate that Commercial, although it
would be allowed to continue and could be maintained. �
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Mrs. Sohnabel cormnented that she was sorry that the people who live in the
� area hadn�t gotten a petition together up to this point as that would give
the City an idea of how the property owners felt.
MOTION try Shea, seconded by Peterson� that the Planning Commission close
the Public Hearing on the Community Development Block Grant Preapplication.
Upon a voice vote� all voti.ng aye� Chairperson Harris declared the Public
Hearing closed at 9:1b P.M.
MOTION by Bergman, seconded by Peterson, with the following considerations:
1) Time available appears to be limited to tonight and recognizing that
this body had not had a chance to allow for time to explore alternatives�
and 2) Recognizi�g that the zoning and actual use in Focus Area 1 are mixed�
the Planning Conunission recorimends to Council that the Co�unity Development
Block Grant Preapplication be revised to encompass only the property
presently zoned Residential.
Chairperson Harris asked if t4r, Bergman would consider adding the following
sentence: 7n the event that the sections 2oned C2 would be rezoned to
residential, then that also would be included in Focus Area I. Mr. BergMan
said he"`agreed with the thought behind that� but wondered if it was germane.
He added that one of his considerations was the lack of time.
ASr. Boardman said he wished to point out that this was a�re_application,
and it would be back again i£ they Here invited to apply £or a Conmunity
� Development Block Grant application. He said that Public Hearings would
again be held, and added that he felt corifortable with the preapplication
as it was laid out. He stated that if they started revising the preapplication
he would £eel uncom£ortable selling it to HUD. Chairperson Harris said he
thought they would have trouble selling it to HUD with the C2.
Mr. Peterson said that he would like to speak in favor of the� motion for
two reasons: 1) As a member of the Commission he felt more comfortable
by deleting the Commercial section from the preapplication and avoiding
spending bad money after good money� and 2) He felt ihey were highlighting
what the problem was and were sending it on for other people to wrestle with.
Mr. Boardman said he was not sure how Atr. Bergman's motion couZd be written
into the preapplication. He said that as far as policy went on en£orcing
this� the policy could state that no grant monies would be approved in
Commercial areas. As far as the application went, he said, it was based
on the information they had broken down by block group, and data by block
was not available. Mr. Boardman stated that as far as the policy went in
dispersing that money out, they could say they would only give monies in
Focus Area I to non-commercial properties, but that did not have to be
written in the preapplication.
Mr. Bergman said he would like to make several comments. First, he thought
if City Adriinistration could successi'ully sell that kind of thing to the
City Council� that was fine. Secondly� he said� he thougnt that as citizens
� and taxpayers they had some responsibility to apply some conservatism to the
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expenditure of their own money. He said that if they were going to make use �
of the grant he thought they should be a little bit prudent in how they were
going to do it. He continued that his best judgement said that if they had
to make a decision tonight, they had to deal with the facts they had and
the situation as it exists, and he could not in good conscience ask for
governmeni money to be spent to perpetuate the situation of Residential
property in the Commercial area. He said he did not feel the sureness that
this was the right way to go� so therefore his view was "don�t spend the
money". Ne said he preferred to leave the motion as it stood,
N1r. Boardman stated that as he had said before, he thought it could be handled
as a policy matter. He said he pre£erred to leave the preapplication written
as it was because the information that was broken,down for the area was broken
down for Primary Focus Area I. He said that was done by Block Group, and
that area was a Block Group, and the criteria they had to use was based on .
that area, Mr, Peterson commented that iC sounded like what had happened
was Holy Writ and there was no way to change it. He said he couldn't see
why the application couldn't read the same, less that area that is C2. Mr.
Boardman said that would then change their data.
Chairperson Harris said that he thought if the app2ication was approved
as written, those people in C2 could go ahead and get those grants. Mr,
$o,ardman pointed out that they would be allowed to set criteria where
tYie C2 districts would not be eligible for the grant. Pir. Bergman questioned
that, and said that if they applied for a block grant £or upgrading residential �
property and outlined the area� and then excluded hal£ the residential
property� that eras not setting criteria but changing the plan.
UPON A VOICE UOTE, Harris, Bergman and Peterson voting aye; Schnabel and
Shea voting nay� the motion carried 3- Z. '
/
Chairperson Harris declared a recess at 9:35 �d reconvened the meeting
at 9:50 P.M.
3. RECOA4�NDATION ON EAST RIVER ROAD PROJECT REPORT
Mr. Boardman informed the Commission that the parkway suggestion from the
East River Road Project Committee had been sent down to Parks and Recreation�
Human Resources and Community Development, and they had responded. Fiowever,
he said, there was never a Planning Conmission response on that inforraation
and now it would be appropriate £or the Planning Commission to give a response
on that. He added that the subcommissions' recommendations wer.e included
in the agenda.
+, Mrs. Schnabel asked if the City Conncil had had already acted on this� and
Mr, Boardman replied they had not. He said that the Planning Commission had
sent on to Council without recommendation the rnoratorium on East River Road�
and the other part of that motion (development of the parkway system) was sent ,
Planning Commission Meeting - February 9, 1977 Page 11
� down to the member commissions for review. He said that each one of the
member commissions had made a motion on that, and added that the Council had
approved the moratorium.
Mr, Bergman said he thought the project was disapproved. He stated that
there were two items sent to Community Developnent; one was the question of
designating East River Road as a parkway, the other was a review of the
East River Road Committee plan as opposed to what exists and the county
plan which would leave the two-lane linitation existing. He said they had
been sent both questions.
Mr. Peterson said that he thought Mr. Bergman was right. He said that
in term5 of City Council action, he thought they had already acted on it
with plans to finish East River Road. They had received the input, he
continued, evaluated the information and had given permission to the county
to apply for funds. Chairperson Harris explained that the county had
applied� with City permission, to the Federal government (possibly the
Department of Transportation) for funds to do the work on that 3/� of a
mile. He said that whether the application had been approved� he didn't
know� but he suspected that i£ it hadn't been approved the work would not
be done.
Mr. Bergman said that he agreed that Council had apparently taken action�
but it was done without recomriendation fron this body relative to which
� plan had the most merit (the two-lane or four-lane). He added that ma�be
it was all redundant at this time. Mr. Bergman stated that he felt a bit
awkward on this as they had spent some time verbalizing about the way that
subcommittee was operating and how they were bypassing process and how they
should be going through proper channels (through Fhvirorunental to Planning
Commission to City Council). He stated that this Com^iission had-dropped
the ball as far as proper route because they hadn't said "ye�" or "nay"
as to what they spent all their time on. Mr. Bergman said that a Sair
amount of time had also been spent at Comrti.ssion levels on this, and
Community Developnent had done a fair aznount of research. lie noted that
those minutes had come to the Planning Corimission and it had been suggested
that he wait until other Com�nission reports ca*^.e in, and that was the end
of it. 'Mr. Bergman stated that in the Comrmmity Development minutes there
were some things that were germane. He said that C.D.C. thought this plan
was ten years too early at the present time� they thought that until the
Horthtown corridor was completed the trend was £or more and more traf£ic
to come in on East River Road and that to reduce East River Road now to
two lanes was completely out of context, He added that he thought they
could all benefit from some mutual understanding of the scene, and his
commission £elt the subcommitte's plan was ten years out of focus.
Chairperson Harris said that they could take action on this� but because
of the time frame he didn�t think it xould be worth a hi12 of beans. Mr,
Boardman stated that he thought a recommendation that might come out of
� this on these two issues (the recommendation on the parkway system and
the East River Road Project Committee report recommendation) could be
si.milar to what Community Development came up with in that these two items
would be considered under a transportation plan. Chairperson Harris
Planning Commission Meeting - February 9, 1977 Page 12
coirmiented that was part of the mandatory comprehensive planning process, �
and this xouZd work very well into that.
Mr. Peterson stated that basically Parks and Recreation agreed with what
Community Development had said� and their motion was very similar except
that Parks and Recreation had combined both issues in one motion.
MOTION by Bergman� seconded by Peterson� that relating to the past studies
and discussions concerning the East River Road Project Committee recommenda-
tion, which addressed two main controversial points (1. The proposal to
reduce a section of East River Road from four lanes to two lanes, and 2.
To develop the East River Road area as a parkway), the Planning Commission
pass on to Council their thoughts, which are:
1. That the plan to reduce the width of East River Road is in
conflict with the present trend of traffic volume.
2. That the possibility oS the proposed changes might be more
feasible at the time of the development of the North Corridor.
3. That any further consideration of East River Road traffic
patterns be considered in the "Comprehensive Transportation
. .
Plan".
UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. �
4.
OF THE
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Mr, Boardman informed the Commission that the two plans that.had been
requested at the last meeting were included in the back oF ihe agenda.
Chairperson Harris noted that this had been precipitated by the Pako
Photo that went in the Skywood P4a11's parking lot, and there had been
some lengthy discussion about the area � block away from the intersection
of 53rd and Central where the driveway entrance on private property tied
into a street intersection. He said they had asked I9r. Boardman to get
a proposal together to remedy that situation, and that was what was before
them now.
Mr, Boardman stated that they had two proposalsfor street imgrovement
of that area, and both were in the neighborhood of about $10,,000 to
$12�000. He said that was actual cost of the project improvement, not
including conderrmation costs. Mr. Boardman added that he couldn't really
foresee any condemnation costs because any such costs would be charged
back to the property ovmer through assessment taxes.
Mr, Peterson asked how the plan would a£fect the Pako Photo Shop� and
Mr, Boardman pointed it out on the plan and said that was where they
had wanted to build it in the first place, h1r. Peterson asked which �
plan Mr, goardrian would recommend of the two plans that had been submitted,
and he replied the first one.
Planning Commission Meeting - February 9� 1977 Page 13
� Mrs. Shea asked how much land xould be condeirmed, and Mr. Boardman replied
it would be a strip about 200� in length.
Mr. Peterson said that when this had been discussed previously, Chairperson
Harris had been concerned that the Ground Round not be disturbed. He said
he noted on the first plan that the Ground Round parking was leFt pretty
much the way it was. Mr. Boardman said that was correct.
Mr. Bergman stated that as he understood the plan, a great portion of the
money would be spent on what is now private pro�rty, but some of it would
be spent on public street dedication, Mr. Boardman said no, that was
already part of an urbanization project. Mr. Bergman commented that if he
was the property owner� he didn't think he would agree with the plan.
Chairperson Harris said that they had been txying to get the property owner
to do something for at least twelve years and he hadn't been willing, so
this might be an incentive.
Chairperson Aarris asked i£ there was any information available on the
number of fender-benders in that area� and rfr. Boardman replied that there
probably were reports with the police department. N.rs. Shea said she felt
there must be quite a few� and nany close calls. DTr. Harris said they
should get that information to go with this package if this went to Council.
Mrs, Schnabel asked PTrr. Boardman why he pre£erred plan A over B, and he
replied that he felt it had better potential For traffic control. Hainly�
� he said� because one lane going up witn a direct lane into the Skywood h?all
would give more control at the end of the channelization area. tss.
Schnabel pointed out where she thought there may be some conftzsion witn
plan A, and Mr. Boardman commented that he felt there taould be r�ore traffic
confusion going with plan B, and pointed out what he meant on the diagram
of B. Chairperson Harris said that he thought from an aesthetic-standpoint,
plan A would have sone merit. He noted that there would be �bout 20'
with greenery and trees, while plan B wovld be just concrete ribbons and
blacktop.
Mrs. Schnabel asked if that power pole would be shifted, and p1r. Boardman
said it would. She asked if he could foresee any problem with people
crossing Central (perhaps coming from Target) and channeling into one lane.
Mr. Boardman said there would be two lanes, not one. Mrs. Schnabel noted
there was a proposed sidewalk shown, and asked if there was a sidewalk
planned within the parking area itsel£. Mr. Boardman replied there was not.
He added that according to the bikeway plan� the bikeway would be running
straight East through this area and up the hill. Mrs. Schnabel said she
was wondering if it wouldn�t be consistent to include a sidewalk within the
parking area itself (on the North boulevard). She said that if there were
bicyclists going through the parking area, at least it would keep them off
the roadway. She noted there was also some pedestrian traffic through
there because of the bus. Mr. Boardman stated that if the Metro Transit
went along with the proposal, that property that showed a proposed sidewalk
� would also be a bus turn-out area. Mrs. Schnabel commented that she still
Planning Commission Meeting - February 9� 1977 Page ].11
tended to prefer plan B personal.ly.
Mr. Bergman noted that on both plans there was a pravisiorr for a shortcut •
right hand turn, and he assumed that the only reason for that was £or the
convenience of the Ground Ronnd customers who might be parking on the other
side of that barrier. Mr. 9oardman said no� the purpose was to keep traffic
from coming out of the Skywood Ma17. area lot into that area. He explained
that was a right only in, into the Skywood area.
Mr. Peterson stated that he gathered from sone of the comments that the
Commission would feel more comfortable with more data to submit with their
recommendation.
MOTION by Peterson, seconded by Schnabel, that the Planning Commission
continue the discussion of the proposed improvement at the intersection
of s3rd and Central Avenue N.E, to the next meeting� asking Staff to
provide the needed information, Upon a voice vote� all voting aye, the
motion carried unanimously.
5. CONTINUED: PROPOSED MAINTEPIAPdCE CODE
Mr. Soardman told the Commission that at Dlonday night's City Covncil meeting
concern was expressed as to the direction the Planning Commission was going
trith the Maintenance Code, and the Council at that time requested a joint
meeting with the Planning Gommission for next �dednesday, February 16th. He �
stated that the only topic would be the Housing Maintenance Code, and the
Council felt that at this time they would like to try to give the Planning
Commission some direction as to what they are looking at. He added that
the Council did request information on the codes from St. Louis Park�
Minneapolis, etc., so they could prepare for this meeting. -
Afr, Peterson said he would like to express his confidence in �the Commission's
Chairman in that if there was going to be a joint meeting they at leasi get
their input into that agenda before they met.
Mrs. Schnabel asked if there was a concern in that it was taking so long
or in the direction the Planning Commission was going� and Chairperson Harris
replied both.
MOTION by Schnabel, seconded by Peterson� that the Planning Gommission
continue the discussion on the proposed Maintenance Code to the next
Planning Commission meeting pending the results of the meeting with the
City Council members.
Mrs. Schnabel said she Would also like to recommend that pir. Harris, as
Chairperson of the Planning Commission, have an opportunity to have some
input into the agenda for that meeting; and also that the City Council
members have a copy of what the Planning Commission was dealing with and
what they had done to date, Mr. Boardman stated that the Council had
received copies o£ everything the Planning Commission had. Chairperson •
Harris asked what input Mrs. Schnabel would like into the agenda. She
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Planning Commission Meeting - February 9, 1977 PBBe 15
� replied that her feeling was that at least he� as Chair of the Planni.ng
Commission, should be apprised of what they were thinking of in terms of
the agenda and Nhat their concerns were so }te could elaborate on the agenda
if he so desired, or whatever.
Mr. Hoardman told the Commission that it sounded like the discussion at
the Wednesday meeting would be Council trying to give their thoughts to
the Planning Commission as to the direction that they think the Maintenance
Code should go. He said that they felt that maybe there is some misunder-
standing as to what the Maintenance Code should be trying to accomplish,
and they want to shed some light on that. He added that Council wanted
to add some direction to the way the Planning Corunission was looking at it.
Mrs. 5chnabel stated that in view o£ the fact that it had taken the Planning
Commission this long to get through two paragraphs, she didn't find it
offensive at all.
Mr. Bergman said that concerning the reference to time, at their first
meeting on this subject there xas the understanding that the Planning
Commission was going to send the code down to the member commissions for
study. He said he felt there Was a lack of direction to the member
conmtissions and the Planning Comriission was going to establish some
guidelines before sending it down to the co;nmissions. He said he didn't
lmow i£ that was still the plan, but they hadn't even approached that yet.
� Chairperson Harris said he thought they had to have something to send
to the member commissions� and right now they didn�t have anything to send
to them. That was this Corunission's purpose� he said� to direct them
what to look at. Mr. Bergman stated that initially the plan was to send
it to the commissions ior development, but he felt the Planning Commission
was now developing the thing and Would send it to them for review.
/
UPC1N A VOICE VOTE� all voting aye� the moLion carried unanimously.
6. OTHER &USINFSS:
Cha3rperson Harris informed the Co�tission there was a Planning Seminar
to be held at the Radisspn South on February 22�th and 25th� which would
be similar to the one he and rlr. Bergman had attended last year. He said
he vould strangly recommend it to anybody on the Commission that would
like to go� and informed them the City would pick up the admission fee.
He said it was a two-day affair� and very worthwhile. Mrs, Schnabel said
that she would like to attend.
ADJOURNMENT:
ASOTION by Peterson, seconded by Shea, that the meeting be adjourned. Upon
a voice vote, all voting eye, Chairperson Harris declared the Planning
� Gommission meeting of February 9, 1q77 adjourned at 10:50 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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FROM: David Newman
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DATE: January 12, 1977
RE: City of Fridley Planning Comr�ission
TSSITE: Economic feasibility - does this mean econom3c hardship? Merriam
Park Community, Inc, v. McDonough.
Generally I would conclude yes. However, I. do not believe that
economic hardship would apply where the economic hardship is the property
owner himself. A destitute property owner does not constitute economic
feasibility.
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The facts in the Merriam case should shed some light on this subject.
In [his case, the defendant owned a piece of property on which he desired to
build a 30-unit apartment. The zoning on this particular piece of property
testricted construction to 10-unit apartments. The city granted the variance
8nd upon appeal, the court looked to the neighborhood. They determined that
tt�e.current structure was in such disrepair that to repair it and bring it
3ntu compliance with the code would cost more than the structure would be
worth. Further, they determined that the revenue generated from a 10-unit
apartment would be insufficient to support the construction costs and that
the proposed structure would benefit the neighborhood. This is what the
court meant by economic feasibility.
TSSUE: Can devaluation of adjoining property be considered in denying a
variance request? / ,-
/ .
Yes. §205.182(2) of the city code states that: "in recommending
a variance, Che board, and the council on approval, may impose conditions
to insure compliance and to protect adjacent properties". This clearly
gives authority to the city Co consider adjacer�t property. This is
supported by PISA §462.357 subd. 6(2) wliich gives the city authority to
grant the variance only "when it is demonstrated that such actions will
be in keeping with the spirit and inCent of Che ordinance". This implies
that the city must consider the overall picture when granting a variance
for a particular piece of property. Finally, aa adjacent property owner,
whose property values are adversely affected by a variance, has standing
to legally challenge the variance, 8A PIcQL'ILLI�, PNNICIPAL CQRPORATIONS
§25.292. Therefore, since the city must consider adjacent property when
granting a variance and since an adverse effecC in property values gives
an adjacent property owner the riglit to challenge a variance, the city can
and should consider the devaluation of adjoining property when considering
a variance request.
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ISSUE: What authority does the city have to issue a moratorium?
The leading case on this topic appears to be Almquist v. Town of
Marshan, ---Mn---, 245t3Sd2d 819 �1976). In this case, the respondent
attempted to reccive a sQecial use permit for the residential developmeat
of some agricultural property that he owned. Although the court acknowledges
some con#usion as to when the application for the special use permit was
actually made, it appears that when tl�e application was made, the town
declared a six-month moratorium on new construcxion.
The court ruled that under current law, municipalities have author-
ity to adopt moratorium zoning ordinances of a Limited ducation, provided
they are enacted in good faith and withoui discrimination. This was reason-
able even though the respondent had made application for development as a
permissible use under existing zoning ordinances. The court applied a
further condition that when a municipality enacts in good faith, and without.
discrimination, a moratorium of a limited duration, on development, it is
valid if upon enactment, a planning study proceeds promptly and appropriate
zoning ordinances are expeditiously adopted when the study is complete.
As an indication of what consCitutes good faith, Che court in this
case looked to the facts that the town board of a relatively small community
was confronted with four developers proposing plans which woold have a profound
e€fPCt on economic, esthetic and engineering problems for many years to come.
They also stated that an equally persuasive reason for permitting moratoriums
� is to prevent nonconforming uses which might destroy the comprehensive zoning
plan ultimately adopted, as well as to derive the benefits of permitting a
democratic discussion and participation by citizens and developers in drafting
long-range land use plans.
ISSUE: What time period does [he city have in which to issue or deny a
special use permit? �/
The city code supplies the following procedure:
- The planning commission must hold a puhlic hearing on the applica-
' tion for a special use permit within 60 days. The commission must
then report its findings to the council indicating its approval or
denial.�b205.194.
- Upon receiving the recommendations of the planning commission,
the council must take action within 60 days and may affirm or deny
the application. s�205.195
The code does not specify within what period the commission must
make its recommendaCions. Nowever, I believe that if the coimoission fails
to make recommendations within a reasonable time, the city may be snbject
to a lawsuit. The applicant could proceed along the lines of a constructive
moratorium. If the city cannot show the conditions previously discussed,
they could be compelied to issue a recommendation.
• If the commission delays in making recommendations, Che applicant
will more likely go to court sceking issuance of ihe special use permit.
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The applicant will probably succeed. The appiicant would argue that the
failure to make recommendations is fn effect a denial. There is substantial
case law which requires a city to issue a special use permit when the
requested use is compatible with the basic use authorized within the zoned
area and when there is no showing that granting the special use permit would
adversely affect the public health, safety, or general welfare of the commiun-
ity. Fairbanks v. City of Blaine, ---Mn---, 242 NW2d 99 (1976), Zylka v.
City of Crystal, 283 Ptn 192, lb7 NW2d 45 (1969).
ISSUE: What consCitutes moving a request from the commission to the council?
�205.194 states that the co�ission must report its findings to the
council indicating its recommendation as to approval or disapproval. §201.03
states that the commission must make its recommendations to the council
through the city manager, These two elements constitute moving a request.
ISSUE: What alternative procedures does the city have?
Of course, there exist variances or special use permits. However,
these are not alternatives. Unlike a special use permit which permits
property, within the discretion of the city council, to be used in a manner
expressly authorized by the ordinance, a variance provision permits parCicular
property to be used in a manner forbidden by the ordinance by varying the
terms of the ordiRance.
There also exists the possibility of a condi[ional use permit.
�205.19k gives the city the authority to place condi[ions upon a special
use permit. �5205.196 further provides that such a:
"use permit may also be subject [o conditions in ordef to
protect Che public healtl�, safety, convenience and weifare,
or to avoid traffic congestion, or hazard, or other dangers,
or to promote conformity of a proposed�use with the character
of the adjoining property and uses, and the district as a
whole, or to protect such character".
• Generally a conditional use permit expires after a set period of time,
altheugh it may be renewed by the city.
Another option for the city is rezoning which contemplates a change
in existing zoning rules and regulations witliin a zoned district. The
procedure for doing this is spelled out thoioughly in Doug's memo.
In spite of this variety of alternatives, if Naegle has complied
with the requiremenCs of a special use permit, then the ci[y must grant
it unless ttie city can show that the granting of the permit would adversely
affect the public }�ealth, safety, or general welfare of the community. Thus,
this discussion of alternative procedures available to the city becomes moot.
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February 8, 1977
Minnesota Department of Transportation
Transportation Building, St. Paul, MN 55155
Dear Fellow Minnesotan:
We need your help.
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612-2953000
The law which created the Minnesota Department of Transportation
requires that our depaztment prepare a comprehensive transporta-
tion plan by July, 1978. We agree that Minnesota needs a plan
to guide transportation decisions and that this plan must respond
to the needs and interests of all Minnesotans. 7'his is where we
need help from concerned organizations like yours. We need to
know what you and the people you represent think the principal
transportation issues are.
Your response could cover a].most anything--from repairing roads,
relieving traffic congestion or alleviating restrictions to im-
proving railroad service, or building more airports. You could
tell us to build more roads and bridges, or to stop; to emphasize
rail or truck or water transport; or, to establish more bikeways
or promote improved public transit. You might have sugqestions
on energy convervation, regulatory matters, environmental issues
'or use of pipelines; or electronic cominunications to decrease
transportation needs. Finally, you might wish to comment on the
most appropriate role of state government in any or all trans-
portation issues.
We have developed a three-phased approach to involve you in the
development of the plan. Currently, we are in the first phase o£
our transportation plan. We call it the "issues identification"
phase. We need to hear from as many people as possible, telling
us what they think the issues are and what a transportation plan
should include.
In Phase II, we will be looking at alternative approaches to
addressing issues identified in Phase I. How do we balance all
the competing issues? Here we will need your help again--to
review our evaluaCion of the issues and tell us which issues are
more important and which are less important. In Phase II we may
be asking citizens and groups with widely different viewpoints to
meet together so that trade offs between issues can be identified.
An fipuet Opporhmlfr Emp7oYer
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In Phase III we will be formalizing a draft plan. Based on the
alternatives discussed in Phase II, we will be looking for your
inpnt one more time to help us decide which alternative to
recommend.
Trta are calling this entire pr-ocess MnJDOT/P7�AN. The emphasis will
be on public involvement and pazticipation.
To make this participation process work, I repeat, we need your
help. Please do the followinq three things to insure the most
effective participation in Mn/DOT/PLAN.
l. At your next meeting discuss the transportation issues you
think aze the most important and send your list to us by
liay 8, and/or plan to attend one of our March or April regional
public meetings to present youz views in pezson.
2. At the same time, designate and identify to us someone who will
be your MnfDOT/PLAN liaison. That person will receive regular
mailings on tiie progress of the plan, upcoming meetings, etc.
3. Be convinced that we want your input and that it will help us.
Yon are the only one who can assure that the plan reflects your
interests.
Any questions? Send them or any other correspondence to Mn/DOT/
YLAN, State Transportation Building, St. Paul, Mn 55155 - or call
Mn/DOT/PLAN at (612) 296-3152. _
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i9e l�ok forward to working with you on the development of Mn/DOT/
PLAN, our State's Transportation Plan..
Harrington
FRIDLEY ENVIRONMENTAL CONAIISSION
MEETING '
FEBRUARY 15, 1977
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sames Langenfeld, Bruce Peterson, Brother Thomas Sullivan,
Lee Ann Sporre, Mike Paripovich
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
OTHERS PRESENT: Ray Leek, Planning Aide
Dan Huff,
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Langenfeld called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.
DECEMBER 21. 1976. FRIDLEY ENVIRObAfENTAL COMhfISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Lee Ann Sporre, seconded by Brother Sullivan, to approve the December 21, 1976,
Fridiey Environmental Commission minutes as written. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
the motion carried unanimously.
CONTINUED: DISCUSSION OF ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION PROGRAM:
Dr. Huff had been invited to attend the Commission meeting in a motion made on page 5
of the November 16,1976, minutes that"Dr. Huff be invited to appear before this
Commission at their next meeting to clarify these areas and explain the Nature
Interpretive program and be given a copy of the budget conceming the Nature Inter-
pretive program," �
1�Js. Sporre stated she had been asked to serve on a park program project cou�ittee
under 011ie Erickson. In the discussions, the question of environmental education
came up. The project committee wanted to come to grips"with that so she had asked
this Commission to give some input to the Planning Commission about the role the city
should be playing in environmental programming. At that time, the discussion was
whether the progra�ning should be left under the Springbrook Nature Center Foundation,
the Natural Resources Coordinator solely, or under Parks & Recreation. She said there
had been a lot of cross discussion.
Dr. Huff stated he has been involved in nature education and beyond that he has not
seen fit to get into a more extensive [ype of environmental education program. He
doesn't think the City is ready for this and the business of providing education as
such, especially at this point in time. He has other duties as Resource Coordinator
that involve city and county projects and quite a variety of bther things. The level
of programming that he has been carrying out has been basically the developing of two
areas--the Innsbruck Park Area and the West Moore Lake Dunes. He has been dedicated
FRIDLEY ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION FEBRUARY 15, 1977 PAGE 2
to doing the physical developments on these two sites and the resources used have
basically been C�TA personnel--two full time professional people and a larger number
of temporary seasonal laborers. They had twelve SEDA people in 1975 and eleven in
1476. This summer with new arrangements with Springbrook Nature Center, they will
probably be spending all the building season using SEDA staff to develop the Spring-
brook Nature Center. Basically, they have accomplished two things: (1) they have
finished the Wesh Moore Lake Dunes and Innsbruck Park Area as far as the development
part; (2) they have got'City Council to agree to use SEDA staff available to them for
this type of work even though the Foundation has the clear-cut responsibility to
develop the park. The City has been trying to help the Foundation and are willing tb
help as much as possible within the ramifications of the agreement. So, it did not
preclude the City to be able to marshall county forces,which are what the SEDA people
are actually paid for by federal funds administered through the county to help the
Springbrook Nature Center get ofE the ground. There will be no tax dollars involved.
It was advantageous to use federal funds to help develop something in Fridley. The
City Council has agreed that Dr. Huff can be involved in this development and the
Springbrook Nature Center wi11 reimburse the City for all of his time. Records will
be kept of the SEDA staff time,and the amount of money paid them and their salaries
through this program can be counted as matching funds against state funding which haye
been awarded for this development. The City received a grant of $27,000 last suumier
which was half of a 50/50 matching grant. The other $27,000 may be in-kind contribu-
tions and volunteer labor as well as cash. This suum�er, Dr. Huff stated they wi11 be
basically developing North Park.
As fir as educational programming, Dr. Auff said since he has been here for 2 1/2 yea,
he has provided a service whereby groups can call him and request tours of any of the
nature areas or North Park. Either himself or the naturalist who worked with him
will meet these groups and give them guided tours. Basically, these tours are general
informa.tion-type tours, although they have had several specific-type tours when an
environmental lesson has been taught. Basically, their commitment has not been to
develop a tremendous amount of environmental curriculum resource material. He said,
of course, the goal of the Springbrook Nature Center Foundation was event�ally to build
a fu11-fledged nature center operation at North Park. He also mentioned that there
have been many other groups who have helped out with the nature areas, particularly
the Jaycees.
Mr. Langenfeld asked Dr. Huff how the City had informed the city residents of all the
parks and nature areas that they can visit and participate in the nature studies.
Dr. Huff stated they have used practically a11 the methods available. They have
advertised in the City Newsletter; in all the Parks & Recreation brochures, they have
listed aIl nature interpretive programs along with the recreation programs; the city
calendar has listed on one of the months the nature operation and what was available;
and the Fridley Sun in which a lot of pictures have appeared. For the last two years,
he has had workshops in the Fridley school districts for interested science teachers
describing the areas and the operation and programs provided, where the North Park
Development was, what stage it was in, the future plans, etc. Alsa, groups who
have had the tours spread the knowledge by word of mouth to other groups. �gain, he
said the participation has been rather limited because they do not provide a large
yaxiety of programming.
FRIDLEY ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 15 1977 PAGE 3
Ms. Sporre stated that a problem she had in her mind was that most programs have
some way of evaluating their effectiveness or at least a goal you are trying to .reach.'
She felt that right now they are having a hard time evaluating this program. She knew
the teachers were interested and the Scouts were interested, but what she was trying
to get at was the environmental awareness in the co�unity. Environmental awareness
was one of the goals of this Commission and they are supposed to promote that. It was
hard for the Commission to know how much progress was taking place and to judge if
Fridley was doing as well as it cauld. ,
Dr. Huff stated there was a loC more to environmenCal awareness than nature education,
and that was basically the only thing he has been into. As far as the overall, entire
realm of environmental quality, he was only a small part of it.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that one of the points the Covmiission was after and that he
would like to see was to give each of these parks and any other form of park the.same
recognition by the public as an available source of recreation or nature interpretive
studies as has been given soccer, hockey, baseball, etc. He said he had made a state-
ment some time back where he felt that even some members of the commissions did not
know these various areas exist; for example, the &urlington Northern Park. What he
was leading to was something like the Woodlake Nature Center-type of brochure, referring
not only to Springbrook, but any of the parks--one comprehensive-type of availability
nature study for Fridley.
Dr. Huif stated that the Comprehensive Park Plan will list all the natural resource
areas and what was available.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that was fine, but the public does not see this, He was referring
to something that would reach the hands of the public.
Dr. Huff stated that he really believed that the majority of the people concerned about
natural areas and natural parks facilities did know very distrinctly about these parks;
including the nature center being developed. He said the question was whether the
Commission wanted to overkill the whole problem and try to convert those other people
who are really interested in other things. He was not so sure the Commission wanted
to overdo it.
Mr. Langenfeld stated the Commission's main concern was just to make the information
known to the public and create awareness.
Ms. Sporre stated she felt the Commission was Calking about something broader than a
recreation program. They are talking about maybe social attitudes, trying to get at
the attitudes of the general public to include environmental concerns. They are trying
to get at the public's attitudes in more than just what the public did with their
leisure time. She felt that was a parC, but what the Commission was trying to decide
was whether they shouid be ge[ting at the attitudes through the leisure time through
the nature programs. That may not be the way and maybe there should be an entirely
different approach.
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FRIDLEY ENVIRONMENTAI, COMMLSSION MEETING FEBRUARY 25 1977 PAGE 4
Dr. Huff stated he thought leisure time was a big part of it, but you cannot force
people. He said they have done quite a bit of advertising; and unless they get into '
something like RichEield where they offer programs a11 the time, he felt they were
pretty limited as to what they could do. The natuYe center at North Park was a thing
to look forward to, not just with nature education, but with all sorts of environmental
education. If they can start there with a big resource, they could draw the people in,
Mr. Leek stated they will have the nature center and the other natural history areas
in the city in the Comprehensive Parks Plan. In addition, the Parks & Open Space Plan
might have a subtle long range impact on the type of participation they get. What
he was talking about primarily was that in the Parks & Open Space Plan they wi11 be
talking about development of corridors of open space through or by some of the natural
history areas. It seemed to him from his experience in riding the trails in Minneapolis,
the existence of thaC kind of network would generate some kind of interest. At this
point, they may have hit the point of dimishing returns as far as advertising, but
need to loak at the tong range for moiding people's attitudes.
Ms. Sporre stated it was so easy to sit back and say they are doing a good job, but
what the Co�ission was trying to say was whether there was a better way that this
Co�ission could get into the fieid of environmental education. The Commission has an
objective that spelled out environmental education,
Brother Sullivan stated he felt there was a difference between direct and indirert
education. He was not sure if he saw the Co�ission's responsibility of dealing with
direct :^ducation as much as indirectly seeing that the environmental education was
there through acquiring the programs, £inding out what was available, offering suppor�
whenever the Commission could or when they thought something should be pushed. He saw
that as more the Commission's purpose than in directly educating.
Dr. Huff stated he agreed with Brother Sullivan. If the Commission had some ideas,
Chey could direct them to something like Community Education which was an excellent
source as there was money available and the facilities are there. They could also get
individuals together who would be interested in forming a commitkee to develop certain
things, etc.
Mr. Leek stated that one other outlet would be letting the city staff know what the
Commissfon's concerns were regarding open space and environmental education. He was
writing the comprehensive plan right now cahich addressed that. Also, one of his tasks
right now was to go back over the goals and objectives of the Planning Commission,
Frid2ey Environmental Canmission, Parks & Recreation Commission, and Community Develop-
ment Commission to see how they addressed questions on recreation progravmiing to open
space preservation and to natural history areas, and try to incorporate these into
Parks & Open Space. But, he said, it might behoove this Co�ission to also give their
concerns. Ae suggested that when the Parks & Open Space P1an comes to the Planning
Cammission and then [o this Commission, the Co�ission woutd then have a chance to
speak what they want to that plan and make sure some form of implementation of the
goals and objectives they have talked about are included.
FRIDLEY ENVIRONMENTAL CONAff SSION MEETING FEBRIIARY 15, 1477 PAGE 5
MOTION by Brother Sullivan, seconded by gruce Peterson, that the Fridley Environmental
Coamiission's Goals and Objectives be put on khe March meeting agenda for review and
discussion. ppon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Ms. Sporre stated that out of the park project coomittee came a statement which
concerned her about coordinating the use of the naturalist's program budget. That
was why she wanted the feelings of the Commission.
Dr. Huff stated that his department was separate from Parks & Recreation and his budget
was directly under the City Manager.
Mr. Paripovich stated that he has read a few of the Parks � Recreation Commission
minutes and he felt the Commission does not act like a parks and recreation commission.
They seem more like a physical education commission. He stated this was a real concern
on his part. He was concerned that these people who are supposedly protecting our
parks program and representing our interest are so biased toward physical education.
It would seem to him that it would be a good idea to split the co�ission in half--a
parks and recreaCion portion and a physical education portion. He realized, of course,
[hat there was a real need for the physical education portion,
MOORE LAKE:
Mr. Langenfeld stated that this item had 6een carried over from the last agenda of
the January meeting which had been cancelled. pt this time, it was in the hands of
the city who has hired a consultant, Hickok & Associates, to do the study on the lake,
rIe asked the Commission members if they had any comments on what they thought should
he done with the lake.
MOTION by Lee Ann Sporre, seconded by Brother Sullivan, that this Commission wanted
to review the consultant's report before any actionc,as taken by the City Council. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
CONTINUED: LAND ALTERATION ORDINANCE:
Mr. Langenfeld stated that it was his opinion that this ordinance was now in line
with what the Commission had been after.
Mr. Leek stated he had again gone through the mining ordinance to determine what stipu-
lations of the ordinance were not covered by our application and tried to cover those
stipulations and make it emphatic that the terms of the ordinance must be met before
any permit was granted. He stated that the Engineering Deparement will be taking these
applications; but it was his intention, if this ordinance was passed and the applica-
[ion adopted along with it, to monitor the application procedure. He stated he has
not yet determined the fee increase, but that the cost of the application will only
be based on administrative time. There wi11 be a cost in the permit sufficient to
cover any administraCive time used in Che evaluation. The burden of the cost of
reviecazng the application wi11 be on the developer. He stated he was making a careful
effort to inventory this process and it will have to be monitored to make sure the
fee does cover all administrative time, He said he has discussed this with the
'ngineering Department and has told them of this ineent,
FRIDLEY ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 15, 1977 PAGE 6
MOTION by Mike Paripovich, seconded by Brother Sullivan, that this Commission has
recownended to Planning Commission that the 212 Mining Ordinance and the Application
for Land Alteration/Mining Permit as they now read be adopted by the Planning
Commission. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motiou carried unanimously.
grother Sullivan expressed the Commission's thanks to Mr. Leek for all the work he
has done on this.
Mr. Langenfeld stated he would like the Commission members to bring the ordinance and
application with them for the next couple of ineetings in case of any future discussion.
Mr. Leek stated that the Commission should also keep in mind that the appLication
procedure for this ordinance should be reviewed possibly on a yearly basis to make
sure that the burden of the cost for that evaluation of development was on the
developer. Costs go up yearly, and if the fee remains the same for a long period of
time, it outlives its usefulness. The fee schedule should be adjusted accordingly.
MOTION by Lee Ann Sporre, seconded by grother Sullivan, that the Commission has
recommended that the application procedure for the 212 Mining Ordinance be reviewed
on a yearly basis to make sure that the burden of the cost for the evaluation of a
development was on the developer. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously.
EAST RIVER ROAD PROJECT COMMITTEE REPORT:
Mr. Langenfeld stated he had not attended the last Planning Commission meeting, but
at that meeting was a compiled summary from various commissions regarding the East
River Road Parkway. They did not come to any unique position as such, but all the
inEormation on East giver Road will be placed into a Comprehensive Transporation P1an
which was part of a mandatory Metropolitan Land Development Act, on a Zong term basis.
Mr, paripovich stated that the East River Road Project Committee met shortly after
the Commission's December meeting and since then they have not done anything. He
stated he has been in touch with the State, but they are having difficulty getting
a speed limit study taicen because the County sat on the thing for such a long time,
and now was a bad time of year to do the study. They are a littLe bit disappointed
that the City of Fridley does not appear to be doing anything to expedite getting
that function performed by that end of the job that was done by Anoka County. We
kind ot left it in theix hands and nothing has 6een happening. There are a lot of
people talking about doing s�ething separste from the project committee, because
the committee has tried to remain within the formal confines of action as specified
by the Charter. The Fridley Environmental Coam�ission cannot enter into a special
interest-type activity. Some of the people are forming to agitate for the State ,
Legislature to investigate why Anoka County was doing some of the things they are
doing. The project committee was not getting involved with that at all. qs far as
their activity, they are going to get in touch with Mr. Qureshi in the near future
and start digging again.
FRiDLEY ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION MEETZNG FEBRUARi' 15, 1977 PAGE 7
Ms, Sporre stated that the report developed by the East River Road Project Committee
had been sent to Coon Rapids. She asked Mr. Paripovich if he had had a chance to
talk to the Coon Rapids City Planner and get his �eactions.
Zfr, paripovich stated he had not yet done that but intended to do so.
Mz. Langenfeld briefly informed the Commission of the present situation with the
Bikeway/Walkway project Coa�ittee. It was something that was 6eing discussed; it
was not being left in the closet, and that all possible means are being taken hy
city staff to obtain funding.
Air. Leek stated that some time back he had been requested to get input £rom the
Parks & Recreation Director, Mr. goudreau, specifically on how Mr. Boudreau felt
about the East River Road bike route. It was Mr. Boudreau`s feeling that it would
be most logical at many points along the road to link up with Minneapolis along the
river and follow the river as much as possible, possibly swinging over Co East River
Road whenever it was impossible to follow the river corridor, if necessary, hooking
up wiCh Coon Rapids, gut, given the sCatus of East River Road as a county highway
and given the availability of the river corridor land, Mr. Boudreau did not feel it
was beneficial to run the bike route all the way along the East River Road.
Ms. Sporre stated the Legislature had set up a proposai for a block of.money for
river front appreciation. She wondered if anything was going out of Fridley to
Metro-Council relative to that.
Mr. Leek stated he was not sure aboue it; they may even have made an application.
He said he could explore that and get back to the Commission. He felt prc3ably the
best way would be to wait for the application to come to us.
OTHER $USINESS:
208 WATER QUALITY MANAGEMENT PLANNING SESSION:
Mr. Langenfeld stated that he did have to go before the City Council to geC permission
for the Commission to co-sponsor this session.
Ms. Sporre stated that she thought the Commission should recoamend to Metro-Council
that their Planning Department become more aggressive in the pollution control and
non-point source pollution, that the problems that affect Fridley wi11 not be
addressed in any substantive way by the 208 Pollution Control program. Springbrook,
61en Creek, Stoneybrook Creek, Rice Creek are not eligible for review because at this
point there isn't anything icky in the water, It was a toCal planning program that
was not going to be esta6lished by the Metro-Council. She believed it was as valid
to negotiate on where the parks' monies go in terms of water management policies as
it was on housing. She thought Fridley paid a price for neighboring c mununities on
water management as other co�unities paid a price hecause of Fridley's policies on
hous ing .
FRIDLEY ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 15 I977 PAGE 8
MOTION by Lee Ann Sporre, seconded by Mike Paripovich, that the Fridley Environmental
Commission urged the Metropolitan Council to take an aggressive role and seek funds,
if necessary, to develop a non-point source pollution control policy plan for the
metropolitan area, Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, hhe motion carried �nanimously.
Mr. Langenfeld asked Mr. Leek to check into the content of this letter as to what
Mr. Leek thought should he done and then to check as to whether Council approval
was needed to write this letter.
AGENDAS:
Ms. Sporre felt it would be advantageous for the Commission members to receive copies
of the agendas of a11 the co�issions, particularly City Council, so they would know
in advance what was going to be discussed aC those meetings.
MOTION by Lee A� Sporre, seconded by Mike Paripovich, that the Fridley Environmental
Commission receive copies of all the commissions' agendas, particularly City Council's,
and that each agenda item be spelled out clearly. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
the motion carried unanimously.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
Mr. Langeafeld wanted to remind the members that the election of officers would be
at the next meeting and to be thinking about it.
ENVIRONMENTAL SEMINARS:
Ms. Sporre stated there was going to be an environmental series of seminars in Fridley
which she thought were going to be tremendously important in developing the attitudes
of the people in Fridley. The seminars are entitled "Appreciating the Out of Doors"
and will be held March 28, Apri1 4, and April 18 at the Fridley High School, Room 108.
The speaker will be Dr. Walter Breckenridge. Dr. Breckenridge wi11 be contributing
his time and all proceeds will go to the development of the nature center. 'lhe fee
schedule is "pay at the door" and will be $4 per person for the series of three
lectures, $1.50 for each lecture, or $5.00 for the family. The lectures are being
promoted by the gpringbrook Nature Center. She asked that the Commission members
spread the word of these seminars to others. She also asked Mr. Leek if he would
look into the possibility of having this information put on the agendas of all the
commissions.
MOTION by grother Sullivan, seconded by Mike Paripovich, [o adjourn the meeting at
10:00 p.m. UQon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary
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EXISTING CHAPTER
272. MINING SAND AND GRAVEL
� 212.01. Minl�g Permit Pequired
4 mining permit shall be appiied for and shall be issued by the Zoning Administrator (or the minign ot sand,
pravel, rocks, minerals, peal or dirt of any kind in Fridley w�ere such operations will substantially alter the
ezisting ground contour or would change existing drainage or would cause tlooding or erosion or where
dynamite or other expfosives are used generally or incidentally in said mining operetions or where sucn
operaifons affect the value, use and enjoyment ot other property in Fridley. (Ref. 79)
212.02. Appliealion
Any person desiring a permit shall first submit a written application setling forth the foilowing (acts
?. Names and addresses of applicants
2. lepa� descriptions ot land to De mined.
3. The names and addresses of all owners ef said land.
�. The nature of the mining operatiort.
5. Whether dynami[e a� other explosives wiil be used either incidentally or qenerally
B. Details ot how long mining operations have existed in the past and when mining operations will next
aommence or continue and ihe approximate completion darq �f the mining operations.
�� 272.03. Fees, Bonds and Conditions
� 4 permit may be issued by the Zoning Administrator after lhe applicant has:
5. Submitted the applicalion.
2. Paid a permit tee. The annual permit tee and expiration date shall be as provided by Chapter'? of tbis Code.
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3. POSted a surety 6onC acceptable to the City or a certified check in an equivalent amount tor the sum of
51.000.00 per �� �of fraction thereof for ihe lantl to be subjecte0 to the mining operation +unning to Fridley te
aecure satisfac[ory performance of the }ollowing requirements:
a) The pit shall be surrounded by a lence 4 feet high and adequate as protection against accidental lall or
injury.
D) No water a' other waste s�al� be allowed ;o ruc �it from any pit into any stream, lake o� pond so as to
DOIIUte the same. -
e) Operations shalt be limited to reasonable hours that will not interfere with the healtF: and safety of
surroundi�g residents and the premises be so operated as not to creale a nuisance.
d} When explosives are used the permitee shall use the utmost care and take all necessary precautions not to
endanger lifp and damage and tlestroy property.
. e) Ail ezplos.ves�shall be stored in a reasonabiy secure and safe place or places and all such storage
. places shall be clearly marked "Dan9erous — Explosive".
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`� , f) lhe method of slorfng and hantlling explosives and highry inllammable materials shall conform with all
laws and regulations relating thereto.
9► A�og o� the time and day and personnel tamfllar with the work shall be kept of all 6lasting and a
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212.03
Mining Pe[mH
Required
Applieatlon
Fees, Bond
And
Conditions
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�pY o( sald bp shatl be mada avallabte to tbe officiale of tha Ctty.
h) At 1he end ot each season's ope�attons and no latrsr than Ihe last day o( �mber of each year, Ihe
plt Is to be lelt In a neat and orderly conditlon, wlth reasonably uniform slopes wlthout overhang and witbout
vertleal banks and with a levol botlom. '
212.04. Wa(rar of Regufremenls .
The Council may waive the requirements of the surety bond and certlHed check depostt when the apDlkant or
eppliwnts are the owners of the property to ba mined.
212.05. De(InNlons
The mining of sand, pravel, rocks, minerals, peat, or other dfrt of any kind sAall mean and fnclude any
excavailon in tha earth tor the purpose of removinp any sand, pravel, rock, minerals, peat or dirt of any kind
Including the removal with any over burden necessary to reach said sand, gravel, rcck, mfnerals, peat or dirt of
any kind, other than an excavation intended and used solely as a basement of a buildtng.
412.08. Hours
All operatlons shall be Ilmited to reasonable hours that will not Intertere wNry the healtA anG sa/ety o}
aurroundlnp residenta and tAe premiaes are to be so operat� a5 not to create a nuisance.
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212.09
WetYor ol
Requ(rementa
Deflnitfana
Moun
Any mininy operation not consistent with the reAulations provided hereln or with the intent and purpose of thls �blfc
chapter are declared to be a public nuisance. N���C°
212.08. pemedy o} Council
�he Council may fn addltion to any or a{I other remedies available for vlolafions of this ordinance, after a public R��y Of ,
hearing he�d upon ten (10) days notice by mail to the lasf known address of the owner or owners of the propeAy, Councll
may proceed to have the necessary work done to comply with the provisions of this chaptatand assess all of tha
coata and axpense thereof against sald property.
272.09. Penaltfss
Any violatlon of f�is chapter is a misdemeanor and Is subjec( to all penaltles provfded for sueh violationa under
the provisfons of Chapter 901 0( thls Code.
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PROPOSED CHAPTER 212
CITY OF FRIDLEY
� 212 HINING
212.01 FINDING AND PURPOSE
The City of Fridley finds that the extraction of minerals by surface
mining is a basic and essential activity making an important contribu-
tion to the economic well-being of the cortmunity. The economical
availability of sand, gravel, rock, soil, and other materials is vital
to the continued growth of the region and the City, The City further
finds that it is not practicable to extract minerals required by soci-
ety without disturbing the surface of the earth and produ�cing waste
material.s. The danger exists that noncompatible land uses could un-
netessarily deny the benefit of these mater=ials to society in the
future. It is further fou�d that the character of mining may create
undesirable land and water conditions which can be detrimental to the
health, safety and welfare and property rights of the citizens of the
City of Fridley. However, if properly regutated and if reclamation
of surface mined lands is required, mining can take place within the _
City in such a manner that undesirable side effects of the operation
may be restricted to an acceptable level.
The purposes of this ordinance are: To provide for the economical
availability of sand, gravel, rock, soil and other materials vital to
°-the continued growth of the region and the City.
� � To establish uniform and reasonabte limitations, safeguards and con-
trols in the City, for the future production of said materials.
� To control the effect of the mining operation upon adjacent property
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�+To provide for the restoration of the mining operation and mining area
during and after termination of the removal operation.
+To control and minimize pollution caused by erosion or sedimentation,
all in furtherance of the heatth, safety and general welfare of the
Citizens of Fridley, Minnesota.
212.02 RELATtONSHIP TO ZONING ORDINANCE
This ordinance shall apply to areas within the City of Fridley in which
the removal of minerals including sand and gravel is a permitted or special
use. The standards and requirements set by this ordinance shall govern
the issuance, renewal and ternination of the mini�g permit required by
Section IV.
212.03 DEFINITIONS
� 1. Dust - Air-borne inorganic particulate matter other than smoke.
2. Extraction permit or permit - The permit required by Section IV
of this ordinance.
3. Minerais - Nonmetallic material found in the earth including but
not limited to sand, gravel, rock and soil, �rhich may be covered
by overburden.
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4. Mining or extraction - 7he removal and processing of minerals.
S• dverburden - Those materials which lie between the surface of
the earth and the mineral deposit to be mined.
� 6. Rehabilitation - To renew land to a seif-sustaining long term
use which is compatibie with contiguous land uses in accordance
with the standards set forth in this ordinance.
7. Topsoil - That portion of the overburden which lies closest to
the earth's surface and supports the growth of vegetation.
212.04 MININS PERMIT
Except as hereinafter provided in this ordinance, it shall be unlawfu)
for any operator to engage in the extraction of minerals without having
first a written permit from the City of Fridtey authorizing the same.
212.OS EXCEPTIONS
The permit requirements established by this ordinance shall not apply
to:
1. Emergency work necessary to p�eserve life or property. Wfien
anergency work is performed under this section, the operator
performing it shall report the pertinent facts relatin9 to the
work to the City of Fridley prior to the comnencement of the
extraction. The City shall review the facts and determine
• whether an emergency exists and shali by written memorandum,
authorize commencement of the emergency exception. An opere-
tor commencing emergency work shall within 10 days following
. the commencement of that activity, apply for the issuance of
an extraction permit and on the issuance thereof may be re-
quired to perform such work as determined to be reasonably
necessary to correct any environmental impairment occasioned
by such work.
2. Operators now conducting operations governed by this� ordinance
and for wfiich this ordinance requires a permit may continue
such operations, but within sixty days of the effective date
of this ordinance shall make application for a permit. Failure
to apply for a permit shall be a violation of this ordinance,
however, on request and for cause, the City may extend the
time for the initial application to ninety days.
212.06 APPLICATION FOR AND PROCESSING OF PERMIT
1. The mineral extraction permit shall be processed in accordance
wlth the same procedures specified at Section of Or-
dinance No. adopted The extrac-
tion permit may be processed at the same time and in conjunction
with an application for a building permit or any other permit
required to be granted by the ordinances of the City of Fridley.'
2. An application for a mineral extraction permit shall contain:
� (a) The name and address of the operator and owner of the
land.
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(b) The correct legal description of the property where the
extraction is proposed to occur.
� (c) The names of all land owners owning property within
one-half mile of the boundary of the property described
above.
(d) Specification of the following using appropriate maps,
photographs and surveys:
;i, the physical relationship of the proposed mining
area to the canmunity and existing community dev-
elopment.
� i. site topography and natural features including
� location of water courses and water bodies within
the planned mining area.
iii. the quality and quantity of minerals to be excavated.
iv. the depth of water tables throughout the planned
mining area.
v. the average thickness of overburden in the area.
(e) The purpose of the operation.
(f) The estimated time required to complete the operation.
• �(g). The plan of operation, includi�g processing (any operation
other than direct mining and removal), nature of the pro-
cessing and equipment, location of the plant, source of
water, disposal of water, and reuse of water.
'(h) T�avel routes to and fran the site. i
%(i).The p)ans for draina9e, wind and�water erosion control,
sedimentation and dust control.
•212.07 STANDARDS
1. Operation shall be conducted within the confines of the property.
2, Operation shall not be conducted within:
(a) Five feet of the right-of-way of an existing public utility.
(b) Fifty feet of the boundary of any zone where such operations
are not permitted.
(c) Thirty feet of the boundary of an adjoining property not in
mining use.
� 3• Fencing - During operations, access to any area where collections
of water are one and one-half feet in depth or more or where excava-
tion slopes are steeper than one foot vertical to one and one-half
feet horizontal and any other areas where o6vious danger to the
public exists shall be controlled by a four foot tall fence.
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4. Appearance and Screening:
(a) Hachinery shall be kept in good repair and painted regu-
larly.
(b) Abandoned machinery and rubbish shall be removed from the
site regularly.
(c) All structures that have not been used for a period of one
year shall be removed from the site.
(d) pll equipment and temporary structures shall be removed and
dismantled not later ihan six months after termination of
mining operation or expiration of this permit.
(e) Where practicai, stockpiles of overburden and materials shall
be used to screea the mining site.
(f� Where practical, the perimeter of the mining site shall be
planted or otherwise screened.
(g) Existing tree and ground cover shall be preserved to the
extent feasible, r.iaintained and supplemented by selective
cutting, transplanting and replanting of trees, shrubs,
and other ground cover along all setback areas.
''5. Operating Standards:
(a) Noise--the maximum noise level at the perimeter of the site
shall be within the limits set by the Minnesota Pollution
Control Agency and the Environmental Protection Agency of
the United States.
(b) Hours--all mining operations shall be conducted between 7 a.m.
and 7 p.m. on weekdays only.
(c) Explosives--the use and handling of explosives shall be co-
ordinated with the poli�e department. Blasting shatl occur
only at hours specified in the permit and at no other time.
(d) Dust--operators shall utilize all practical means to reduce
the amount of dust caused by the operation. in no case shall
the amount of dust or other particulate matter exceed the
standards estabiished by the Minnesota Pollution Control
Agency.
(e) Water Pollution--operators shall comply with all applicable
Minnesota Pollution Control Agency regulations and Federal
and Environmental Protection Agency regulations for the
,protection of water quality. No waste products or process
residue, including untreated wash water, shall be deposited ��
in any lake, stream or natural drainage system, except those
lakes or ponds wholly contained within the exiractio� site
may be so utilized.
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(f) Topsoil Preservation--all copsoil shall be retained at the
site until complete rehabilitation of the site has taken
� place according to the rehabilitation plan.
5. Rehabilitation Standards:
(a) Rehabititation shall be continuing operation occurring as
quickly as possible after the mining qperation has moved
sufficiently into another part of the extraction site.
(b) Slopes--all banks and slopes shall be left in accordance
with the rehabilitation plan submitted with the permit
application. No rehabilitated slopes shall be steeper
than four feet horizontal to one foot vertical, except
'that steeper slopes may be permitted in accordance with
the rehabilitation plan when said slopes are pla�ned for
slope related usages, for example, ski hills and stiding
hills.
(c) Cover and Planting--slopes, grated, and backfilled areas
sha{1 be surfaced with at least three inches of topsoil _
and planted with ground cover sufficient to hold the soil.
Such ground cover shall be tended as necessary until it is
self-sustained.
•.; (dj Slopes to Water Bodies--no slope descending to a water body
shall exceed one foot vertical to four feet horizontal.
� (e) Water Bodies--all water areas resu)ting from excavation shall
be rehabilitated as follows:
i. the bottom contour must be gradually sloping from
the shoreline to the deepest portion. �
ii. the water depth in the deepest portions must not
be less than five feet measured from the low water
mark.
(f) Einal Elevation--no part of the rehabilitated area which is
planned for utilization for uses other than open space or
agriculture shall be at an etevation lower than the minimum
•required for gravity connection to sanitary and storm sewer.
212.08 FEES 6 BOND
1. Paid a permit fee. The annual permii fee and expiration date shall
be as provided by Chapter 11 of this Code.
2. Posxed a surety bond acceptable to the City or a certified check
in an equivalent amount for the sum of $1,000.00 per/�� of
fraction thereof for the land to be subjected to the' mining
� operation running to Fridley to secure satisfactory performance
of the requirements set forth in this ordinance.
212.09 UALIDITY
The validity of any word, section, clause, paragraph, sen[ence, part or
provision of this ordinance shall not effect the �alidity of any other
� part of this ordinance which can be given affect without such invalid
part or parts.
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212.10 EFFECTIVE DATE
This ordinance shall take affect upon adoption by the City Council of
Fridley, Minnesota.
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(EXISTING) AI'PLIGATIUId �U1 lP.l.fr RL7CRA1'IQI!(tfllltNG PLR!".17 3S.
� CI1hPTER 212
� ' 1. APPL I CI1t9T: .
APPLICA710N N
Name
DATE
Address
Office Phone Hane Ption�
2a YROpcRTY 0:•tt:ER(S) :
►Jaxe Name
pdJress Hddress
Ofiice Fhone� Hcxne Phaie Office Phane Nome Phor+e�
� 3. LEC,AL DESCRIP710:1 Qc PROPEP.TY TO BE ALTER�D OR P11NED:
4. NA7URE OF LF.KD kLTEP,AiIOh/PfIMIP:G OP�PJ:T101c (f3; ief Descripzio� oi wiiat is
to be done}: _
5, PROPOSED STAP:fIt�G D,ATE: LOMPLETIGN DATE:
6. ATTACHFIENTS (Information P:eeJed to Properly Ev�luate Application):
The folla��in9.pl�ns, dra�•,ings, calculations, bonds and/cr statements �+i11
be required Uy the Public Works Department. .
[� Half sectior. map or sketch of property sf�ewing all adjacent property
htidic:,tin, the existinc,� buildings and/or structures.
[) Grading plan sho�.•ing existing and pr'oposed finished contours and ele-
VaY.ions.
• [� Drainage plan shaoing ;ili existing and propnscd drainagc structures,
stabilization S1•alis or eribbii�g, dams, or o;hcr prot4etive items.
❑ Calculat+c+ns for�and approxim�t�� quantiYics of exc�vation and/or fill
rcquired.
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� SigncJ statcmr.nlJfroni the property ovmcr acceptin,ry responsibility for `;'�
the operation anJ granting permission for lanJ alCcration/mining oper-
ation.
� ❑ Statcment to be att�ched to dced advisin9 0£ potcntial need for soil
tests prior to any construetion on tots where addicianal fill material
has been place�l.
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7. S?IPULATIOt7S - READ eEFORE SIGIlil:G APFLICAITOPl:
a. A surety bond or cerYified clicck in the amo�int of $ must be
submitted after approval ofi application and prior to arry work corrr�enciny.
• 7his bond or cFeck is to ensure satisfactory performance and compliance
with the belovr stated stipulations. T�ie surety bond or check shali be
' kept active untit the co:npletio� of work and/or expiratiun of permit and
tan only be rejeased by a�riYten notification nf the city after a satis-
facto:y final inspection has been performed by city forces.
b. All access and street frcntage of the land alteration/mining site m�st
be controlled by a fence, a minim� of four (�+) feet in height. All
entrances must ha��c-. gates that are capable of being locked.
c. Only rock, sand, gravel, dirt, or similar natural eartn fill is p°rnitied.
� ko eonw-ete, asphalt, or demolit:ion o-iastes taill b� permitted as fill ur,lc:ss
a demolition landfill pernit is first obtainzd fraro Ar.oka Coun;y.
d. Operations shall be limited to daylight hours and shall not interfere
with the health and safety o� surrounding residents and the pr:s.�ises
shall be �raintained at all tir�es so as not to create a nu-isance.
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e, Any ex�losives used must be done so in accordance taith Chapter 'Li2.3,
par�graphs d, e, f and g, of the Fridicy Cit}� Code (see attached) and
any oYFer applicable standards e.y. Fadere.l, St�te, Industrial, etc.
f. A± t:Le end of each season's operations and nu iater than the last day of
December of each year, the site is to be left in a neat and orderty co�di-
tian, with mar.imum slopes of 2:1 with no overhanq or vertical 6anks and
with a level botto:n.
c�. On the Friday of cach arork week, or ti�hen required by the City, material
fran this operatiwi that is found to exist on City streets shall be
eleaned to the City's satisfaction 6y thc applicaot.
h. Upon completion of land alterotion/mir.in9 o�crations, the land must be
left �r.cording to ihe plans and contours submiCted �iifh Lhis application
and plantcd with suitable vegctotion to prevent crosion.
�1. Upon ec�anpSetion of land altcration/minin9 operaCions or capiracion of
• this �icrmiY, an inspecCion by Che City �aill l+c made of the pre�nises �n�i
adjoiiiinq strcets. /1ny Jama�c found co liavc hci:n eauscd by these opera-
tionS taill bc corrcctcd by th�: .ippliconl u�:on notificaCion by thc City.
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8, PCRNIT F[F.:
Land Altcration Hining
(As per Uniform Uuilding Gode (As per Chaptcr 11 Fridicy City Codc)
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Applicant's I:ame Print ProperCy O�aner's Name Pri�t
Applicant's Signature Property Oa:ner's Si9neture
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CI1'Y USE ONLY:
Recommended For Approval Ey: "
. Assistant City Engineer
Approved By:
_ Public lJorks Director
Permit Lxpiration Date:
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Comments:
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPLICATION FOP, LAND ALTERATION/MIP�ING PERMIT
� CHAPTER 212
1. APPLICANT: .
APPLICATION il
Name
DATE
Address
Office Phone Home Phone
2. PROPERTY OWNER(S):
Name Name
Address Address
Office Phone Hane Phone Office Phone Home Phone
� 3. LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF PROPERTY TO BE ALTERED OR F11NED:
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LAND OWNERS WITHIN 1/2 MILE OF PROPERTY DESCRIBED ABCUE:
PURPOSE OF LAND ALTERATION/MINING OPERRTION (Brief Description of what is to
be done):
6. PROPOSED STARTING DATE:
COMPLETION DATE:
7. REQUIRED ATTACHME�dTS (Information Needed to Properly Evaluate Application):
The following plans, drawings, calculations, bonds and/or statements will
be required by the Pubtic Works Department.
QHalf section map or sketch of property shoti�ing all property within 1/2
mile indicating the existing buildings and/or structures.
❑Grading plan showing existing and proposed finished contours and ele-
vations.
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❑ Average thickness of over6urden in the drea.
DDrainage plan showing all existing water bodies and proposed drainage
structures, stabilization walls or cribbing, dams, or other protective
� items.
oCalculations for -.nd approximate quantities of excavation and/or fill
required.
� Map showing travel routes to and from the excavation site.
QA description of the plan of operation, inciuding equipment to be
used, source of water, disposal and reuse of water.
oSigned statement from the property owner accepting responsibility for
the operation and granting permi5sion for land alteration/mining oper^
ation.
QStatement to be attached to deed advising of potential need for soil
tests prior to any construction on lots where adclitional fill material
has been placed.
❑ Other
B. STiPULATIONS - READ BEFORE SIGNING APPLICATION:
� a. A surety bond or certified check in the amount of $ must be
Submitted after approval of application and prior to any taork commencing.
This bond or check is to ensure satisfactory performance and com�liance
with the below stated stipulations. The surety bond or check shall be
kept active until the completion of work and/or expiration of permit and
can only be released by written notification of the city after a satis-
factory final inspection has been performed by city forces.
b. All access and street frontage of the land alteration/mining site must
be conirolled by a fence, a minimum of four (4) feet in height. All
entrances must have gates that are capable of being locked.
c. Only rock, sand, gravel, dirt, or similar naturai earth fill is permitted.
No concrete, asphalt, or demolition wastes will be permitted as fill unless
a demolition tandfiit permit is first obtained from Anoka County.
d. Operations shall be limited to the hours of 7:00 a.m. on weekdays only,
and shall not interfere with the health and safety of surrounding residents
and the premises shall be maintained at all times so as noC to create a
nuisance.
e. P,ny explosives used must be done so in accordance with Chapter 212.C7
paragraph 5L, of the fridley City Code (see attached) and any other
applitable standards e.g. Federal, State, Industrial, etc.
� f. At the end of each season's operations and no later than the last day of
December of each year, the site is to be left in a neat and orderly condi-
tion, with maximian slopes of 2:1 with no overhang or vertical banks and
with a levei 6ottom.
g. On the Friday of each work week, or when required by the City, �terial
� fran this operation that is found to exist om City streets shall be
cleaned to the City's satisfaction by the applicant.
h. Upon completion of land alteration/mining operations, the land must be
left according to the plans and contours submitted with this application
and planted with suitable vegetation to prevent erosion.
i. Upon canpletion of land alteration/mining operatio�s or expiration of
this permit, an inspectioo by the Lity will be made of the premises and
adjoining streets. P�ny damage found to have been caused by these opera-
tions will be corrected by the applicant upon notification by the City.
9, PERMIT FEE:
La�d Aiteration Mining
(As per Uniform Building Code (As per Chapter ll Fridley City Code)
Applicant's Name Print Property Owner's Plame Print
Applicant s Signature Property �amer's Signature
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CITY USE ONLY:
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Recommended For Approval By:
Assistant City Engineer
Approved By:
Public Works Director
Permit Expiration Date:
Comments:
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FRIDLEY APPEAIS COMMISSION MEETING
�sxuaxY i5, 197Z
MII�tBERS PRESENT: Schnabel� Barna� Gabel, Kemper
MF�ffiERS ABSENT:
OTHERS PRESINT:
Plemel
Ron Holden, Building Inspection Officer
The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Schnabel at 7:31 P.M.
APPROVE APPEALS COM.hiISSION NfINUTES: JAh'UARY 13, 1977
Mrs. Gabel said that she xould like to comment, because she didn't think
secretaries got enough recognition, that she thought the secretary was to
be commended as the minutes were alvrays accurate and concise. The other
members agreed, and Mrs. Gabel stated she thought that should be in the
minutes.
Mr: Barna stated that he had a correction in the second paragraph on page
1�� and noted that into Stoneybrook Creek should read £rom Stoneybrook Creek.
MOTION by Barna� seconded by Gabel, that the Appeals Commission minutes
of January 13� 1977 be approved as ar.�ended, Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, the motion carried unanimously.
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1. REQUFST FOR A VARIANCE OF SECTION 20$,31� (6), FRIDLEY CITY CODE� TO
RIDUCE THE Rr.QUIRED 100 FOOT SETBACK RECL'IREu^•'.EN2 FIH�iE PROPERTY IS
ADJACENT TO A DIFFERENT DISTRICT, TO 73 FEET, (M-1 AND R-1), TQ ALLOW
THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN I,IDUSTRIAL BUILDING ON LOT l, BIACK 1, OF THE
PROPOSID ARNAL .1DDITION� (M-1� LIGriT INDUSTRIAL AREAS)� THE SAI�'.E BEING
8101 ASHTON AVEt�IJE V,E.� FRIDLE7, 1�fINNESOTA. (Request by Berkeley
Pump Company, 181 Ely Street N.E., Fridley, Minnesota $5lt32).
MOTION by Barna, seconded by Gabel, to open the Public Hearing. Upon a
voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
ADMZNISTRATNE STAFF REPORT
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SER.VED BY REQUIRII�tENT:
Section 205.131� (6), requiring a 100 ft, front yard setback for M-1
zoned buildings from street lot lines adjacent to other zoning.
Public purpose served by this section is to avoid congestion in the
public street and traffic hazards and other dangers and to protect
and conserve the character of any adjoining neighborhoods and £uture
neighborhoods in the same vacinity,
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B. STATED HARDSHIP:
Variance is necessary in order that the proposed building can be
compatible with existing building for efficiency and aesthetics.
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW;
A 100 foot setback is required because the property to the West
(across Ashton Avenue) is a City Park, The existing building is
at the 78 foot setback point because it xas built on Lots 3, !�,
and 5 which were interior lots, Lots 1 and 2 were acquired later�
making it a corner property. The owners were refused a permit to add
on the West side, but were granted a permit to add on to the North
side of the building in 1966. The corner lots.(Lots 1 and 2) were
rezoned to M-1 in 1971t.
The proposed Arnal Addition structure will occupy less than l�0�
of the lot. The additional vehicles wi11 occupy the existing
parking areas for Berkely Pump Company, 181 Ely Street N.E.
Letters of encroachment will be required from t:�e a££ected utility
easement holders for construction in the vacated alley area.
Mr. Lee Snead was present representing Berkeley Pump Company, He stated
that they were asking for a variance from 100 feet to 73 £eet as they would
like to put an addition on their present property as their current building
was no longer sufficient or adequate for their needs. He added that indica-
tions were that their needs would increase considerably over the next £ew
years� so an addition was badly needed. Mr. 5nead said that in order to
make the addition efFicient and usable� they would like to be able to use
the same Pacing line as the present building. He said that i£ tRe proposed
addition was to sit back too £ar� they would lose valuable a¢cess between
the two buildings. Mr, Snead stated that the new building would follow
the general angle of the road� and they also thought that having the two
buildings of somewhat similar construction and the same distance from the
road would be more aestheticalZy pleasing.
Mr, Snead explained that they were not going to actually connect the two
buildings together wall to wall, but would have an enclosed walkway between
them measuring 12� high by 1l�� wide. He stated that in between the two plots
o£ land was a 6� utility easement, and they had received letters from all
of the utility companies in the area saying that they did not mind if
Berke�ey crossed that easement with what they proposed. Mr, Snead added
that they did have to guarantee their right to access� and noted that the
walkway could not be over 15� high because of an overhead power line. He
further added that they felt the building would contribute to the neighbor-
hood by providing a nice place, and Berkeley would provide shrubbery and
grass.
Mr. Snead said that he had just returned from talking to the main office
in California, and they had a deviation from the original plans in that
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� one xall would be moved back a bit. He explained that the owner wanted to
use the full lt0� coverage instead of having square corners on the building�
and it was also the owner's suggestion that the property follow the contour
oS the road to give them more office space in the front.
Mr. Snead pointed out on the diagram where they had originally planned to
keep the office space, and where they had decided to move it. He said
that the parking area would be extended out a little bit £nrther than it
showed, and where they had open space on the drawing they would just carry
their parking over. He noted that the drive areas showed only 20' and 16��
and said they would probably want to make that wider so the trucks would
have more room. He.showed how the ramp would also be moved back to give
them more room £or office space. He explained this would be a completely-
covered walkway with walls of similar construction as the building, and
with a roo£. He said it would not be as high as the rest of the building.
Chairperson Schnabel asked what the purpose of the proposed addition would
be. Mr. Snead explained that his company xas in the assembling� warehousing
and sale of pumps. He said that the present building would be primarily
used £or warehousing, and the proposed addition would be used for all
three purposes.
Chairperson Schnabel asked if the number of employees would be increased,
and Mr. Snead replied that they presently had eight i1i11-time employees
and anticipated going as high as about 12 - 15 in the next year or two.
He added that he didn't think they would go over £ifteen employees at any
�• time.
Mrs. Gabel asked if the drivewag areas were large enough, and Mr. Holden
replied that they should be increased to 2$'. Mr. Snead said he would do
whatever was necessary to meet code. _
Mr. Holden asked why Berkeley didn't just add one building st�raight through.
Mr. Snead said the basic reason was that if tbe business grex and they
expanded out to the North, the small building that they now occupied
could be lmocked down and that property sold separately. Mr. Holden
. explained that a 15' sideyard setback xas required in M-l� so then they
would either need a variance fro:� IS' to 0', move back 15 feet, or plan
not to sell the original (existing) building. Mr. Snead said the easiest thing would
be to plan not to sell it. He stated he didn't want to join the two buildings together
because he thought the new building would look better than the old building.
Chairperson Schnabel explained that one of the reasons there would have to
be the 15' in between would be for fire protection, unless a"0" lot line
construction was added with a£ire wall. hfr. Holden said another option
would be to go back to the utility companies and ask for a greater square
footage. Mrs. Schnabel asked if he xas to go with the "0" lot line if
a double £ire wall would be necessary, and Mr. Holden replied that was
correct--it would mean building a new wali ri�ht next to the existing wall.
Mr. Snead commented that their insurance company required that sprinklers
� be put in the new building, so they would add them to the existing building
at the same time. He said the buildings would have good fire protection.
Mrs. Gabel asked what kind of traf£ic was generated in terms of large trucks,
and Mr. Snead replied that during the busy season (early summer to late fall)
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there could be seven to eight trucks a day. Mrs. Gabel asked if there was
a fence around the park area, and Mr. Snead replied there wasn't, but all •
the playground equipment was on the other side of the park. He added that
near his building was mostly a grass area, so there was no danger to children,
Mrs. Gabel looked at the photograph of the present building and asked what
was kept in the fenced area next to the building. Mr. Snead replied that
was outside storage. He said he didn�t anticipate any more outside storage,
and would like to eliminate what they had. He added that they kept the area
quite clean� and everything was neatly stacked.
Mr. Holden asked the petitioner if he had understood what was said earlier
about the different options� and Mr. Snead replied he did. Chairperson
Schnabel said that if he wanted to go to the "0" lot line concept and abut
the two buildings together� he would have to apply for another variance.
Mr. Snead said he didn�t intend to� and wanted to stay with the present plan.
Chairperson Schnabel said that if the proposed addition was built as shown
on the present plan, the petitioner wouldn't need another variance if he
didn't intend to split this off for sale. Mr. Holden said that r�as correct;
if they went with the present plan it would have to be with the intention
of not splitting if off to sell at a later date.
Mr. Kemper asked wi�y it wasn't necessary to go down to the "0" side yard
setback, and Mr. Barna explained that it wasn't a side yard. Mr. Kemper
asked if the existing building belonged to someone else if it would be a
side yard, and Mr. Holden said that was correct.
Mrs. Gabel asked if the only reason the two buildings weren�t being put �
together was because of the easement� and P�Zr. Snead said that was correct.
Mr. Barna commented that he had no objection, and thought it was one more
reason to have signal lights at 79th. Chairperson Sc�nabel asked T4r.
Snead if he had the letters o£ encroachment, and he replied he did.
MOTION by Barna, seconded by Kemper, to close the Public He-aring. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Barna, seconded by Kemper, that the Appeals Commission recommend
to Council� through the Planning Commission� approval of the request for
variance with the following stipulations:
1. The letters of encroachment go on record with the City.
2. The existing building not be separated and sold off from the
proposed building because the petitioner did not present a request
for a 15' setback variance, and the petitioner understands that
at this time.
Upon a voice vote� all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously.
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OTHER BUSINFSS:
Chairperson Schnabel handed out to the Commission copies of a letter she
had received this last week from the City Attorney concerning the request
that she had made to him o£ the interpretatioris o£ two items. She noted
that pages 2 and 3 of the letter did not contain information tuat she had
requested� but probably information that the City Council had asked £or.
Mrs. Schnabel stated that this was for the Commission's enlightenment,
and it would be put on the agenda for the next Appeals Commission meeting.
ADJOURNhIENT:
MOTION by Barna, seconded by Gabel,
at 8:38 P.i•i. Upon a voice vote, all
unanimously.
Respectflilly submitted,
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Sherri 0'Donnell
Recording Secretary
that the Appeals Corr¢nission adjourn
voting aye� the motion carried
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�R � �: :�ace Lyach, aersla selg�, �ii�.�Otc,. aea scorla
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�T; ' iiervic� J. Harzmana, 278 �sry.��°- City Aseeasor
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��peze� Grsee Lpach,cslYed the me¢�i:ng tc�a�de� at �:39�p.m.
�,..t�xv�aav � te�� �;mtfa►�r.�nnarvmroc��rv�ierira¢�uc�s.arvc. . .
41& Aee],gum, secanded bp Ned Sto;la, Ca�,�tove the January 6; 1977,
ss'Commi.asictt �3nutes as vriEtea. tipoa � voice note, all votiseg ape,
ta�f.ed�. su�au�mouelg.
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` :�at appsre�ttly this inforoAa! - �
C�asmcil. Ms.,Lytxh said 8�e
ia£osmatian -Che`Cammissioa li
xmcil are the's�e as ihe Gb
Gq make use oi:ii. Me. Lync
¢ Week to qn��i€y. S6e uid.
iRiui-GraPt Progrnm had aot
' to Ms . Carrall Rukort�ski a�
��rogrem,. Apparently, the
This monsy was'available
^ vould need $O hours of
tke to see it used for the
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o7C��L:.�ugg�Fted that th8 �'aa�rteaion obtaia apc•�i�Cation form and applp.
q;:,bp��s�F.:�utt.> seconded by Bed Storla, �a ta�b2e the Hini-Grant Progrm agaiu
�'�ct:�tiag for further Yliseusaioa, Ugae a-�{aice wte, all voting aye, the
i�arr#ea:i�tmousay. :
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�;�3�ttad that- the Coeoiasion has -ratogD.iso� t.�tlt- ve have h�an probleoos �hen
'�gs.3+�[s3ty popu3atiomG, i.e.,'agax�t Aauses, tovahousea. etc. What
�q liss been trqiug to do, at lea�L t#lt�gh �,lte-A-95 review processes, has
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particuTBr prapet�ies are ;
tha a8sessment d�
tpraisi�►$; thetei
sute of``the"treni
sccor�inglY• The
ttfe area�. the hoi
far tltai` house.
17�e hwra that are the mas
the vay `the asaessar gces
propa�tq.
1'k. St�tt asked A[r. Het
Mr. Helttmaan etated tha
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different things that affact pea�e �her Iive in
Comuilsstan had:�X. ,Tfm Hi�,1, Publ,�c "�afetq Directo�
.1 aiade the pairtE that whetit ycu h�!ve a high density
:lta �ublia 8afe�� pepartzctaat, i�cr�astd s#gnificantly. '
c"etiona £rdm tTie Park Dfrector`that trhen there was
.hia� foz Chs Ydut'►8 People to do.
� to-do, as a memb�r of a project tomd�fCtee on this,
vE "�he pzoblem:-' Qite o€ iiie th'ings he th�ught was
k+p€'.the service�,'Eite fac=ilities, tts� &�ntiness, or
4�1�ed in deve$;dq�� "3�asa�n3ous retationBhips'within
��fit� to the uaa p�"the s�rvices. I�It. �cott stated
�;to attead �i8 tpeat2ng, iie Wanted Clse Cammisaioa
hute�;aad have iE-r�carded in thie miaute�': He asked
€�t�cfptioa of �e "B�SStssiag pr+ocedura. The �ssessing
`�lia'communfty aad aas done through tht property tax :
�.t�i be aware a€ �ere the. moaey: �ao� £r�rrm that
a6 �heq cas�id bt �ware of the pro�esi� titiat was used
Nx�+'�ov1d then Er�Ik abovt the differet�t elaeaes of
tt +pi idea �s# h� !�e dffferer�: clhsaes are assessed
ride� titeae serv��:
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�ildin� th8t 1188 ri0 OW$!i' ki'Vi
apglied szfll ha 4t91: oir ,'�>9QR:
livit�=•itt it, th±e 'f1rsC $�$stif�(
� $33,Ot'ti�.�+ill be mnitipt3� §y �
The mill�akte, if a11 tha°jb�
vCUI#!`fre.eXS�CIy tfie a8�e„�g�ii
vas taiard lok+er than th� �es�;.
ma da about $Sfl0 lesa tttatit ti�
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use wliat
SS O� � C�ifl S�lE6> 88=. Cl"9� 4)t18.t �..: . � ��
�e witix commer�ie;1 and industrial :
�eg ar� "historiaa", not
,�arp Z,d nf the fallb�tf.ng year, �
previaxs of tke aff��tal date o€.
go upward. Th{�Y are not alwsys -
hav�'a�d adjust Cbei� rates
q�siifications. TheY look at
„ axad 'by L�at.� �t�y $elact a rate
-3ns, centCa� a,ir-�amd��loning, wali
opu3,ar =�tcime ia 'thB ��Plit entryr'.
iag ti�e.�eX. m�ae�. �ie said thi.s was ;
value of dlfferent t�pes and size pf
little a#nd# �he di€f�'ent-clasttts of propertg.
-Endustri.al-ty�e propertiea o� $50,OD0, the
1`be'4� 0�',�7.,SflQ. Far`� $54,{it7Q: axtment
e propertq, t�e asse�aed v�lu� t�at t��Yl be
$50,004 � or eparCment thet has t�e owner .
caultiplied�bg YS'.4 or'$3,250 and Lke atlser'
4,800, maki�g:.the aseaased vaiue at $18,050.
che saa�e �elioot di�ts#fit, �axfa� cFfetrict, etc.,
cne. iFe s+ldd �r�n t�h thE �es#�ential. home
:mer:$325 was takea off tre�au�re of ho�estead, which
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,�� � t�1afi the mobile twK was aseessed 1� t�te County. It fia va3ned
� " " � ;�f="�_claseif�.eei ss.#o�eatmai if awq�: ��ypidgd. aad`l�s a :very
"' ;"�a�4C ��tir3e itoae- f.a usua]1P Pa'� p�- aad that doesn' C get
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�t �L� C1Wt' �� bo `s�Ne. tryi.ng to arT% �` iy�►S �L�at the ap�tt�en� dweiler aas
+if�;��wic -t3ira�h •.rent. ,��t return for thokt, ��tey' $et less city services than
4'�AtaL�i. =�1►sscwha used- Che. a� servfeea. 2i#ta ia the same comunity, and paye
�:�1�8�. � said he �s •stok �►e4. s�r$ .whaC-' aeott7id be fair. He just vanted
�� �,a b� a�� af tt��.tax3ng procedure thet AYS 8one on, and the services the
uF'; `.�fot Gi�y dwc�2�ers egeeiflcaliy, Msybe-the-builder of apartment dvellinga `
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� g��g=a taz break ia �etusn for providiag e�rs.services oa their property. Ae
����: "��IE"�o 9ag=1L�t ��ybe � the .�kaxiirp; s3�e ha8 pra�oted t�e kind of ��
�� f;i�tt #or eaaq�gie, tTie- poiice tiave to-snke. -Hr. BQrxmana stated that oa a
�,..��a agartmetrt e� is ecarparahle ox maqbe iq+►sr•
�fii� , _3lr. Hers�wa for attendfng the eeet�.ng. :
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f� �g�uiisteii wtEk� #ru� qutstioas they'would i#,k� Co hsve answered. City Council
s�d,#�#t t�e�+e .s�uLd be sea��. to Hti�an �ea+�r¢�8..�isaion. Ma. Lynch eaid tiiat
�-�sttp Comps�ehenaiee HealLh needed thi� tttpitt'b� April lst. She aslced the
�s��T �.�#t�y ►Ta�tted to -�eap�aid to this..
7{���i�ated-he vas tl� S�L@£lBGtd �II 8889/ELfA$ ��t$ffl t��128[1�8 SS it waild take
�� L�'.�o reseaTCh these ques�ions. Ife said ihe �noka County Camprehensive
�'i sb�.s� be gi�.tag the Cae�iaeiow the ans�a ��o T.fisae queations.
�a �uggegt8� Ufat Me. Lyneh resd tbe s�e�ti�4s 8nd the C6mmisaion could give
��#�y waat�: � �
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�#I: (�st are the humasn aervice needa �f po�r xeaidenta?
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'#. `7grproved edcia3, se�vice deliverg syaC�-€or familiea with �DC
�. .Zqproved �uitural awareness p�tograms <
':il. �mities Pro$ram ,
'1�:, ,Ia�rwed. oa�unicaEions
�i' :F; 3�ansporLatian
�. Pt�Per health care'
� $. �t$r �acceas to judicial, sgsta�
< I. �rime Fra�rsnt�oa� `:
� �. �4�cm fn j+�cial : system =
-°�. ° is�ove child�en�.a righta in p�bi#s ac�hools
I,. BetCtitiun eianteY "`
` 1�C. C.hahical dependent trea�eat ce��eac
A. Adequato housiag for difftrmt l�rt��s,;c+f incdae
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Qt►e�a6toa �2: Whose a�€e�sf��ty #s it to rea�aqd,to �s� needs-•Cfis3+, ewntq, �
BtsC�, Utlit�d 1�sy��' `
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Question #3: Wtfnt ageti�e�es,� �ations, or i�d3vidu�.� are ��rsent'�p respnnding to
�i�ese ne�c19?
Tl�e .Coae�ssi�- � " a:felt the A#iq�a Goctslty `�omFiek�a�ve Hea2th
� � -�s�iktid='lca+�at► E�= � " � z ��o thi�s��. �
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QuaeC�aa �#: iihat ageacies, z�aaizations, or ft[�ifuiduals are 8etter abte to respond
to theaff �t�eds2'.
l�micipai gov�Ent • r
I�T7.�i by Asrold Belgimr� eeac�red'by-�ed 3toila, i#rtt a IeCter s�sould be sent to �
Anoka-�aux�ty'CQmprehernif� etating that tire �umat� 8eernisces Ctsm�iseioa would !
like ars cancise statemeaG- a,f •: f f�he Anoka Gauztty E�pre#�usivA �Iealth has clong' and
tt� amqrsYtt of m�m�es. �e�'38= �". lsai tyro pear�. #Tpon a vo�;ce uote, Se2gum, Seott,
a�d ffEoria vat9.� aqe, �rsael��<�_. �g �Y> the mot�am caY�3r+d.
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Mt. Be1� atated that two �hs sgia, he wax ag�i�ted #rp the Co�iseioa tn chair
a"P�islley Cenmuaity i�t�egap� �rtrj�C �o�+}ttee'*. He asked tlte Ctmm%ssi6n members �
i'f tifeg iutew af ascy�'�� �'ii �e �rtterested i'� �ervi�g-e� sush a e�ittee ar who ;
vss a�ite�es[ed fu jau�ll�>:�itt�, or cot¢m�uu�t}� slea�lop�ent, t6+ iat` hi� kneii�r. He '
hoged to have a:eum�l�L�a e�ite�_#�t a mouEh, �� L�east o}te trmn ��ech preeiact in ','
the eo;monunity: � �
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Mr. R�igarn siso 6ro+uglit-up a ptrdperlt�. �#xich�aooui� $o Eo tite-�tiiauesbta ihmtaitities ` �--
Ccor6l.asion, �Ae safd ite.had ai�t`e�dq :tgkked Co tkkm abbut 3C a� he had in mind ask3ng ?
tE�em for $S,O�BO witH` tha idea ai #x�iag in fius signific�t speakers for September- �
Oct�r=Noves�rer. Th�.s : cwld 8eiwe �a a foxum.' The "purt��e" wouTd be "to improve �
¢Cm��i,r8ti�� withfts:+�e Cit�t 'n€ F�fc�ley; to p1�cm�c+te ae�u�nt�ceB b8t+�en the special S
istte�st eo+�emi.ties; i�s �eu�trage, p�blic debat+�'' �d excAaiage on m�jot i9sues affecting �
ai1 pe+o�2e," The'"th��� titxa2rt be: '*i�tivat�-la�+�Cffists fr' Pu#tlic :Rig�tB'; 'Ehis theme was !
vhat tt�e Miew�sols �i�ies3_�a��siva wag: sg�aeqring. �fr. Belgkzm i'eviewed the ;
"epE�ti3s� ittttte8t Ct�iC�c.+s'.{� Ehe ?�possihle ii�u�e fos` dtacnsaida"f' and the "Potential �'
agealtex's".
I�. �s2g4q� sCated he is�1 gxas,+t�ted �hi� to the t�iem�iinit�g 8ducation Advisary Cemmissfaa
and `�hep ;�tad xgrsed t�+ �e eo-i�pansa°r. He ssfd he �op�.ta present this to the League
of Memrett �FOCera, Chamber of Cs�rce, ath�r organ#�at�o�, ch�rches, eCC. He said
GTV-�tad agreed ta co=spc�ar �i t�e at�l �ei�se aact� �ve�tt i� pzt�r�i it tmfce in :
Lhe #ollusti3�g week. ` � `
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