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City of Fridley
AGENDA
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 19, 1977
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPROVE PLANNING COh4�1ISSI0N MINUTES: OCTOBER 5, 1977
RECEIVE APPEALS CON]FIISSION �IINUTES: OCTOBER 11, 1977
1. PU6LIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP
77-13, INTER CITY BUILDERS: Per ridley City Code, Sectian
205.157, 5, , to al ow the construction of a detached
24 ft. by 22 ft. garage in CRP-2 Zoning (flood plain),
on Lots 1- 4, Block W, Riverview Heights, the same v
being 609 Cheryl Street N.E. _�,�,.�.�.,.. �. ...�l�o•�.�.�°��
2. PUBLIC HEARING:
7:30 P.M.
PAGES �
1 - 11
21 - 40
41 - 45
RMIT, SP 46 -49
�77-14; THOMAS BRICKNER: Per Fridley City Gode, Section
205.051, 3, D, to a ow the construction of a double
6ungalow in R-1 zoning (single family dwelling areas),
on Lot 1, Block 1, HeatFier Hi71s, the same being 1430- � �.,,�LJJ
1432 Rice Creek Road N.E. ,�;�,/�e.,,.�o�G ��`-L`��
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3. LOT SPIIT REQUEST, L.S. �177-12,THU�E H. ERICKSON: Split 50 - 55
off approximately 11 feet fran Lot 6, and add it to
Lot 7, Block 2, Elwell's Riverside Heights Plat 2, per
verified survey and copy of deed, the same being 7515
and 7501 Alden Way N.E.
4. LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L.S. #77-13, DA VERNE CORPORATION: 56 - 59
Split off an 8.5 ft. wedge from Northerly property
line of Lot 10 and add it to Lot 9, Block 3, Innsbruck
North 2nd Addition, per verified survey of record, so
bouse on Lot 9 can meet all the setback requirements,
the same being 5468 and 5498 West Danube Road N.E.
5. CONTINUED: PROPOSED MAINTENANCE CODE•
6. CONTINUED: PARKS AND OPEN SPACE PLAN•
ADJOURNMENT:
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING CaMI�IISSI0T1 MEETING
OCTOBER 5� �977
CALL TO ORD�R:
Chairperson Harris called the regular October 5r �977,
Planning Commission meetin� to order at 7:y0 P.M,
ROLL CALL:
Members Present:
Members Absent;
Others Present;
Shea, Bergman, Harris, Bob Peterson,
Schnabel, Bruce Peterson
Langenfeld (Bruce Peterson was his
representative)
Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROVE PLANNInTG COMS�IISSI0P1 MINUTyS: SEPT��[BER ?_8 1977
MOTION by Mr, Bergman, seconded by i4s. Schnabel, to approve
the September 28, 1977, Planning Comnission minutes.
Upon a voice vote� all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
RBCETVE PARKS & RECREATION COMNISSION MINUTES• S�TE�•�BER 26 19%7
MOTIOPd by Ms. Shea, seconded by Mr, Bruce Peterson, to
receive the Parks & Recreation Commission minutes of
September 26, 197�, Upon a voice vote� all voting aye, the
motion carried unanimously.
MOTZON by Mr. Bruce Peterson, seconded by Mr, Bergman, to
receive the Environmental Quality Commission minutes of
September 20� 1977�
Mr. Bergman asked Mr. Bruce Peterson to explain v�hat 4Jas
meant in the last paragraph on page t of the minutes.
Mr. Bruce Peterson said that the Commission wasn't comfortable
as to the �vay the parks were being catagorized,
T4r. Bergsnan questioned the recycling project.
Mr. Bruce Peterson said that it would probably be a recycling
center. He explained that the Commission hadn't actually
discussed the item as much as they had lvanted to, He said
that P4s. Metcalf ivould be giving a report at the next meeting.
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UPON A VOIC� VOT�, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously. The Environmental Quality Commission
minutes of September 20, 197?, were received at 7:50 P.M,
1. CONTINUED: PROPOSED MAINTEPdANCE CODE
Mr, Boardman explained that Staff ���as in the process ofrewriting
the Code.and:making all the changes and corrections, He said
that it tivas the intent to send it to the City Attorney
for his concerns and remarks and then bringing it back to
the Planning Commission at the October 19, 1977, meeting,
MOTION by Mr. Bergman, seconded by P�Ir. Bruce Peterson,
to continue the Proposed.hlaintenance Code until the
October 19, 1977, Planning Commission meeting.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,the motion carried
unanimously. '
2. CONTIPNED: PARKS & OPL'Td SPACE PL1�N:
Mr. Boardman explained that a slide presentation had been
given on this subject. He said that t�rhat should be done
is to go throu�h the P1an Booklet and describe t�rhat ivas
being done �nd tvhat erould be done. He said that it rtas
the overall intent at that time to try to get items
straightened out in the booklet and then have a Public
Hearing on the document and then send it to City Council,
Mr. Bergman commented that htr. Ray Leek had given a presentation �
and that he had done a very good job.
Mr. Boardman said that it vrould be given again at the
Public Hearing meeting.
Mr. Boardman said that the exact layout of the Plan iras basic.
Ae said that the main part of the document r�as in section 4
SU1+1ti�4Y OF FINDINGS and section 5 PQLICY & RECOt1pZ�,P�DATIONS,
He explained hoe� many of the statements vrere arrived at and
v�here the information came from.
Mr. Boardman said that to come up �vith the Plan that Staff
had gone thrQUgh the areas and the parks. He said that they
had hired a part-tirue landscape architect r�ho had been working
with the City as to eihat could be done �R�ith the Park Systems.
Mr. Boardman said what i�ras trying to be done �vas to put
together rrhat the City tvould classify as a Park System and
hoe� it ��rould relate together �rith the utilization of park
facilitiss.
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PLANIdING COMMISSION MEPTING - OCTOBrR , 19 7 Pa�e 'L
Mr. Boardman said that the SIJt4M1iRy OP FINDINGS (section 4)
was based on the goals established by the Planning
Commission for Parks and Recreation. He indicated that
�. basically the City lacked a standard criteria for stategic
distribution of funds that r�ere ava.ilable for the Parks
and Recreation Systems development.
Mr. Bob Peterson pointed out that the City belonged to the
citizens and they ��iere the ones that r�ould use the Parks
and Recreation systems and they snould be the most important
concern.
Mr. Boarc�man said that rrhat rras planned vras to develon a
long-range blan for the Park System. He said that the City
needed something to move to�:rards for tne future.
Mr. Boardman said tha.t there r�ere several items brought out
under the "Objective" oortion of the Plan that relate to
Citizen participation and the need for citizen participation,
Ms. Schnabel asked ho,°r auch of the Plan tr�as influencec? by
the factors of the economics of the population, the aoe
population, and rrhat the trends titere.
t4r. Boardman said that vrhat hzd to be looked at in the
development of a Park System sras the flexibility of the park.
He said that they ti•�ould develop a systera flexible enougn
� to make cnanges t;�ithout a great coste He said that the
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parks should be able to be utilized by all age levels.
Pir. Bob Peterson said that in a oractical sense it rras not
that great of a proble�a because so many of the parcels of
land e�ere of such a size that there trtouldn�t be that much
that could be done vrith ther�. He said that there �vere
relatively fet� areas that r�ould fit into a total City picture
as far as being used as a Park System.
Mr. Boardman said that the Planning Cor�mission should discuss
the Parks and Open Space Plan. He said that the first three
sections i•�ere basically clear and not much that could be
challenged, He felt that the discussion should begin at
Section y, Swnmary of Findings.
Mr. Bergman i��anted to kno�� if the Parks Departraent eras
promoting this Plan or �ras the City promoting it.
rtr. Bob Peterson said that it c�as basically put to�ether for
funding purposes. He said that the Parks & Recreation
Commission helped in laying doevn a planning tool. He said
that rauch of their time had been spent on the Plan, Iie
said that the Commission bembers had not gone throu�h all
13 of the neighborhoods to decide step-by-steg exactly
� i�rhat should happen in each neighborhood as to the Park
t System.
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P4r. Ber�man asked if the Parks & Recreation Commission had
reviecred the plan in detail�
Mr. Bob peterson said that three meetings had been spent
discussing the PIan, He said that the Commission had not �
entirely decided on every issue in the Plan.
Mr. Bergman �vanted to knoi�� if the Plan was a Specific Plan
or just a General Plan. '
Mr. Boardman said that rrhen Staff �vent through the Plan,
they difl go thxough aZl the parks and facilities and did
do a lot of concents plans. He said that riith the
development oP a Parks and Recreation Plan� there s•rould be
actual detail dravJings of each of the roark areas. He said
that r�kat vras intended iras to go to each of the nei�hborhoods
and hold neighborhood meetings and have discussions ���ith
the neighborhoods and develop a pla.n for a neighborhood park
facility and set up a booklet on each of the neighborhood
park faciliiies. He said that a Public Hearing t�rould be
planned for each neighborhood park facility,
Mr. Bob peterson felt that the Plan tivas actually a Staff
recommendation, He didn�t feel that the Parks & Recreation
Commission or Parks Director had been that Much involved in
terms of the rahole program.
Mr, Boardman said that the Parks & Recreation Director
had been invo].ved in the development of the Summary of
Findings and in the implementation phases of the Park Plan. �c
Mr. Bergman said that he had had the general impression
that the Parks & 8ecre�.tion Commission tvould spend a
considerable amount of time on the Park Plan. He said
that he had recently gotten the impression tliat the
Parks & Recreation Commission had not spent the time that
would have been needed for the Plan.
t4r. Boardman said that the Plan was a general guideline for
the development of a parks and recreation system. ?ie said
that the specific details of design v�ould be presented at
a Iater date. He sald it tivouZd be an implementation phase
of the Program.
t4r, Bergman said that there was a plan for every park in
the Plan. He was concerned about those plans.
Mr. Boardman explained that they raere concept plans. He
said they indicated vrork that Staff had done rrhen they
tvent out to the parks. He said that the plans tvere
meaningful to Staff as far as giving them an idea of vrhat
was in the park and what concept could be developed for
that park. He said that the actual plans lvould only come
about after considering citizenry input. �
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Mr. Bob Peterson e�cplained that at a Parks & Recreation
Commission meeting it had been decided that there would be
no detailed plans for any park until the Commission had
� its input and that the citizenry innut eras in the plan.
He said that the Plan v�as presently an overall olanning
tool but that specifics had not been added to it.
2here was a brief disucssion regarding several grants,
Mr. Bergman indicated that the Communi�y Development
Commission had discussed the Parks and Open Space Plan
at their July 26� 197'], meeting, He r�anted to kno�v lvhat
happened to the reconmendations made by that Commission
regarding the Parks Plan.
Ghairperson Harris said that as the discussion car.ie to
the items that the Commissions had discussion, it ti�tould
be up to the representative of thzt Commission to input
their ideas,
I�ir. Bergman tivanted to knoer if the recommendat? or_s made by
the Planning Commission rrould be included into the Plan.
Mr. Boardman said that if they got the innut before the
minutes rrould have to go to City Council, then usually the
reconmendations would be included.
I�Ir. F3ergman expressed much concern that had been
indicated at the Community Development Cor�mission that
� it disagreed ti�rith the sizing of the neighborhoods, He
said that one of their recommendations had been that
neighborhood areas be revie1�ed for uniformity in size,
population, and natura]. barriers. He used the example
that five separate neighborhoods Aut together took uro
less area than neighborhood 13, His concern was that to
some extent the identification of an area as a neighborhood
i=tould have some effect on the attention it got on the
amount of park area or the funding or the grouping of a
neighborhood representation. He felt that the delineation
of neighborhoods ���as most unequitable.
hiuch discussion resulted from Mr, Bergman's statement.
Pir. Bob Peterson pointed out that the Project Committees
that had been set uro had not have that comnlaint. He said
that the Committee had not been concerned about the
problem that 44r. Bergman and Community Development felt
existed.
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MOTION by Mr. Bergman, seconded by P4s. Schnabel, that Staff
revievr the delineation of neighborhood area� in order to �
make them more equitable as to size, population, anc� natural
barriers.
Ms. Schnabel noted that there �ras also a disparity in the
ratios of parks to people in the Plan also.
Rir. Ber�man said. that there was bound to be disaarities
vJhen existing areas �vere inventoried. He said that one of
the purposes of'inventory vras to adjust disparities.
Ms. Schnabel sa_id that possibly the rolan �•ras to increase
the acreage for parks c�here possible to make it more
equitable in the neighborhoods.
Mr. Bergman said that since it cras a long-range Plan he
felt thzt if there erere errors in the Plan, the time to
correct those errors r�ere in the beginning. iie also
said that the ourpose for revieriing the Plan v�us to try
to ir�nrove the Plan. He felt that there ��ta.s a gross
inequit� in the size and population represented in the F2an.
UPOPI P. VOICi, VOT3, Bergman voting aye, Shea, Harris�
Bob Peterson, Schna.bel, and Bruce Peterson voting nay.
The motion failed.
A4r. Bob Peterson said that he did not necessarily aJree �
c�ith all the findi_ngs and points in the Plan, but he
said that after the three meetin�s there had been a
consensus that all the Commission members did feel
comfortable r�ith t•rhat had been revieLred and sent to
the Planning Commission ���ith the understanding that there
crould be later changes to the Plan beczuse it l�ras not that
inflexible.
Chairperson Harris read the Objective 1 in Section t�,
Summary of Findings:
Develop an order of quality park facilities that vrill
be flexible to the chan�ing needs of the community.
Mr. Bergman said that the Finding ��Most of Fridley�s parks
are lacking in those elements of landscape architecture
(ie, trees, shrubs� shade� interesting use of ;rading) that
enhance a park's recreational value" could result in too
much landscaping to the extent that it might not be functional .
for active sports such as playing ball.
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Mr. Bob Peterson said that
,� that wanted the narks only
others t��ho only cranted many
He eaid that the compromise
looked at as to ti�hat it i�ras
of Fridley.
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there ��rere some Commission members
to be trees, shrubs, etc.� and
different b all playing fields.
vras that each park had to be
intended to do for the citizenry
Mr. Boardman said that elements of landscape did not alv�ays
mezn only trees, shrubs� florrers� etc. He said that it
vrould also include buffering that may be needed in park
facilities and the total lzyout of the park facility.
Mr. 3ob Peterson said that the intent had been to perserve
the integrity of each individual park to best perforn all
the functions that it could perform in a neighborhood.
Mr. Boardman said that the concept plans that srere in the
Plan were solely for the Staff, He said that they ��ere
Staff ideas that carae about only to help estiMate costs
of developing different nark systems,
MOTION by ASr. Bruce Peterson, seconded by NIr. Bergman,
to change the �vording of the second Finding to read,
"Cooperation and coordination zmong State, i�;etro�olitan,
County and t4unicipal levels of government and school
districts need to be improved in order to ensure against
duplication of facilities and rraste of resources available
for recreational developr�ent".
UPOAT A VOICE VOTE, Harris, Schnabel, Shea and Bruce
Peterson votin� aye; Bergman and Bob Peterson voting nay;
the motion carried.
Pir. Bruce Peterson said that The Fridley Fnvironraental
Commission hac�. wantecl to have �}functional classification"
in the first findin� under Objective 7 defined better.
He s�anted to knoi�r vahat type of things ivould be used as a
basis to the classificztions.
Mr. Boardman explained that the basis �vould be given
in the definition of each vark classification, He said
that a Regional Park�s basis for determining rrould be
based on certain items and that ��rould be listed under
the classificaiion of ��Regional Park��. He said that
tvhat rras. being sti.d by that particular "Finding�� i�aas
that the City lacks a classification system for its parks,
rir. Bergman didn�t like the idea that the entire section
of Summary of Findings c�as negative. He said that Fridley
did have many positive points, such as it has five natural
park systems. FIe felt that the positive points could be
listed and indicate that the Pridley Park System r�as good
but that it could be better by,��,.etc.
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Mr. Boardman said that the Summary of Findings vras meant
to reflect eahat Staff found as items to be imnroved in the
System. He said that the Plan didn't say that the System
v�as good or bad, it merely states t�rhat ��rould be needed to
improve the Parks System. He said that the Summary of
Findings v�as the initial stage in order to set up an
implementation process in order to develop something that
cras rranted in the City.
Chairperson Harris declared a ten minute recess at
9:29 P.M.
Chairperson Harris read the Objective 2 in Section 1�,
Summary of Findings:
Provide innovative park design with a balance
of functional and a.esthetic consideration creating
substantial recreational, educational, and
psychological experiences.
I�Ir. Boardman said that it i�ras nost deceivin�; tivhen one
talked about the amount of space of park land because
the actual park facilities that are serving the
neighborhoods and neople, the City of Fridley vras actually
very short on park facilities.
Chairberson Hzrris said that Finding �,'�it� couldn�t be
implemented in a11 the parks, since some of the parks
ti�rouldn't be large enough io handle all the items mentioned.
hir. Boardman said that most of the neighborhood parks
should have the items that �^rare listed.
Chairperson Iiarris said that vlhen you mentioned having
"tldequate and convenient toilet facilities, parking areas,
seating accomodations and drinking fountains�', a great
deal of expenditures as to the buildings, etc, rrould have
to be considered. He said that even 4Jlt'R "grant�� money
the costs for heat� lights� etc. ivould need a substar!tial
amount of City money.
MOTIOAT by P1r. Bob Peterson, seconded hy Mr, Bruce Peterson,
that objective Z be left open until the item could be
discussed at the other Comr�ission levels. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously,
Chairperson Harris said that the entire Parlcs and Open Space
Plan tivould be left open for discussion.
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Chairperson Harris read Objective 3 in Section 4,
Su�mary of Findings:
Promote people-oriented narks through active
citizen participztion.
Mr. Bob Peterson said that if the Planning Commission in
its collective �raisdom c�oula be able to devise a plan that
ti�rould ensure representative citizen participation� he said
that the Parks & Recreation Conmission r�ould appreciate the
benefit of their combined rrisdon.
Chairperson Harris said that he agreed t�ith the first
finding under Objective 3.
Mr. Bob Peterson said thut trro mailings every year are
mailed out to every resident in the City of Fridley listin,;
the entire Park and Recreation Pro�rams for z six-month
period of time. He said that the efforts hzd been mad.e
to inform the public of v�hat ivas available.
Chairperson Harris said that perhaps the inform�.tion
contained in those mailin�s could have been better assembled.
Mr. Bob Peterson pointed out that at the active part of
the Parks & Recreation �roorars that the City of Fridley
gets a lot of citizen p�rticiPation a.t the organized ]_evel,
He said that nuch citizen innut is received from the
organized level because the City has rridley citizens running
the active activities (ie soccer, football, hoc�zey, etc.)
rie said that the P�rks and Recr�ation Commission meets crit'r.
the people running tne activities on 1 scheduled 'oasis to �et
the citizenry input on the active nart of the nrograms, He
sai.d that they haven�t been very successful getting input
from the passive part of the program.
There iras some discussion �egarding the Method of signing
up for the different tynes of programs being offered.
Mr, Boardman commented that the sign-up part of the progra�ns
could be done at the neighborhood pzrks� if the Parls System
v�as improved.
rlr. Bob Peterson commented th�t r�hen Friciley rfas a younger
community, the nressure had been to develop the active type
activities rather than the uassive types, He said that it
had been only recently that the passive-type things ��rere
being reaue�ted (ie fishing docks, etc.)
Mr. Bergman said that Fridley had much area devoted to the
passive activity�
Ms. Schnabel said that emphasis has not been made to the
� fact that those passive areas exist.
MOTION by Mr. Bob Peterson, seconded by his. 5hea, that
the Planning Commission continue the Parks and 0Pen Space
Plan. Upon a voice vote� all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
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j. t°JORK SCH�:DUL�
Mr. Boardman said that at the October 19, �977,
Planning Commission meeting he would have a NJork Schedule
for the members of the Plannin� Commission. He explained a
few of the items that he ti�ras aiarzre of that the Planning
Commission r�ould have to consider and revieer.
4. ADVISORY STAdD1�RDS FOR LAND USE REGULIITION
Mr. Bob Peterson l�ias concerned about the last t��ro paragraphs
on Page 8 of the booklet.
"The various organizations ��rhich have recommended
standards for 1ot size and house size do not recommend
standards for garages. These organizations have
�ecommended standards for d.ensity or lot size and house�
size because they have z clear relationship to the
protection of health and safety. Garages do not have
as c].ear a relationship to the rorotection of health
and safety.
Although �ar�ges are a desirable amenity, particularly
in the I�finnesota cliMate, they are not a necessity.
Garages are an accessory structure £or the purpose of
convenience.
The elimination of a garage reaui�er�ent is one o£
the Most obvious taays to provicle for reducing the
initial cost of a house.��
Chair�erson FIarris felt that the Planning Cor�mzssion did
consider Gara�es having a clear relationship to the protection
of health and safety.
The-members of the Planning Comrsission agreed �aith Mr. Harris.
Chairperson Harris said that the City of Pridley did
require garages on most properties.
Chairperson Harris said that the City of Fridley tivas being
accused of adding to the price of the houses by requiring
a garage.
Chairperson Harris saanted to knolv ho�r much of the items in
the boolclet �rould have to be adopted by the City of Fridley.
Mr. Boardman said that at tha.t time, none of the items i�JOUld
have to be udonted. He said that it c�ould be a large
debatable issue similiar to the Mandatory Planning. He
said that there taas presently not enough backin� to push
the issue through ihe proper channels�
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Mr. Bob Peterson asked if the Metropolitan Council had voted
or adopted this item.
�Mr. Boardman said that he wasn't sure. He said that the
� Metropolitan Council vfas supporting the item,
Mr. Bergman said that he could understand how the
Metropolitan Council had arrived at some of their conclusions.
He said that it had. been stated in the booklet that the
purpose of this item was to make recommendations on vaays
to supply modest cost housing. He said that they vrere
Iooking at ways to simply cut the costs of housing,
Mr. Bob Peterson said that he felt the report had addressed
the same issues that Fridley cuas c�ncerned �vith only they
had reached different conclusions than the City of Fridley.
Mr. Boardman pointed out that some of the recommendations
were to a.11ow smaller lot sizes, smaller house sizes, and
dropping the garage requirements,
Chairperson Harris said that the Advisory a"tandards for
Land Use Regulation tivould be closely considered rrhen the
Planning Commission <<rent over the Zoning Codes in November,
Ae said that cities should carefully study their land
usages to enhance modest cost housing.
Mr. Boardman said that the housing issue was a major concern,
�He said that cities rrere creating the problems of less
� home sites available.
Chairperson Harris askea that each of the Commission
members give careful considerations to the "Advisory
Standards for Land "Jse Regulation" booklet,
ADJOURN?�1LNT
MOTION by Mr. Bob Peterson, seconded by Ms. Shea, to adjourn
the October 5� 1977, Planning Commission meeting. Upon a
voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Harris declared the meeting adjourned at
10:40 P,M,
Respectfully submitted,
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MaryLee Carhill
Recording Secretary
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CITY OF FRIDiEY
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING - OCTOBER 11, 1977
CALL TO ORDER•
Chairperson Schnabel called the October 11, 19'7?,
Appeals Commission meeting to order at 7:40 P,M,
ROLL CALL
Members Present: Plemel, Kemper, Schnabel, Gabel, Barna
Members Absent: Mr. Kemper left the meeting for
approximately one hour
Others Present: Ron Holden, Building Inspector
APPROVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINIITES: SEPTENiBER 20, 1977
MOTION by Ms. Gabel� seconded by Mr. Barna� to approve
the Appeals Commission minutes of September 20, 1977.
Mr. Barna changed the last sentence of the last
paragraph on Page 10 �o read, "He pointed out to the
people that East River Road was a very traveled road and
that there were many traffic problems on the Road��.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
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ION OF VARIANCES GRANTED
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MOTION by Mr. Plemel� seconded by Mr. Barna� to open the
Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the
motion carried unanimously. The Public Hearing was opened
at 7:i�3 P.M.
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����, ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY RECJUIREMENTS: �
Section 205.103, y. (C,1), to maintain a rear yard
setback of 25 feet in C-2 zoning area. Public purpose
served by this requirement is to provide adequate
open space around commercial structures for aesthetic
and fire fighting purposes.
Section 205.103, 4, (B,2), to maintain a side yard of
35 feet adjacent to a side street. Public purpose
served by this requirement is to maintain adequate
side yard setback and aesthetic open areas around
commercial structures.
B. STATED HARDSHIP
A hardship exists to applicant since applicant cannot
expand their business without adding onto the existing
building, and inability to add on to the business and
expand would create an economic hardship.
This request for extension is made because Dennis L, Barker,
Robert D. Byrne and Aelen C. Byrne commenced an action
in the Anoka District Court requesting that Court to
declare the action of the City Council of Fridley null
and void in granting said variance to the applicant
herein. Applicant has at all times since the granting
of said variance been ready, willing and able to proceed �
to complete the work in question, but has not been
able to proceed because of said lawsuit.
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEtiV:
The enclosed survey of 6005 University Avenue 1V,E.
shows both the existing and proposed structure locations,
The alley to the East is 12 foot in tividth and has been
vacated, so that 6 feet of the alley is considered to
belong to M& I Supply Company. The proposed structure
will increase the lot coverage to 30%. It will be used
exclusively for cold storage. Other possible directions
of expansion are impossible due to existing required
parking on the North side and front side of the building.
Staff would like to request that a pleasing landscape
design be incorporated into this improvement of the
property. Also� the East (rear) property line
abuts on residential property and should be separated
from it by an appropriate privacy fence.
This request vras granted by the City Council on
September 20, 1976, but subsequent court action has
lead to this request for extension. Staff recommends
that the Commission review the minutes of the original
public hearing before the Appeals Commission and take �
ttote of added stipulations imposed by the City Council.
It is understood that no changes have been made in the
original proposal.
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Each Commission member received a copy of the August 10� t976
Appeals Commission Meeting minutes along with the ';a3
September 20, 1976 City Council Public Hearing minutes which
� pertained to the item at hand.
Mr. Irwin Ketroser explained to the Commission that
due to the law suit the one year had lapsed and it was
necessary to extend the variances that had been granted.
He indicated that a hearing on the law suit had been
held during the first week of September and that they
were waiting for the court's decision.
Mr. Plemel asked if it would still be necessary to
require a privacy fence at the East property line since the
property owner to the East had already done so.
Mr. Ketroser said that the Company was willing to
cooperate and do whatever would be xiecessary in the area
of fencing or screenittg.
Chairperson Schnabel read a letter that Mr. Ketroser
wrote to Mr. Nasim Qureshi
Mr. Ketroser indicated that he had been in contact
with Mr. Herrick during the year and he had authorized
Mr. Ketroser to make the statement in the letter regarding
the last paragraph of the letter he �arote to Mr. Qureshi,
"Mr. Herrick has indicated to me that he would recommend
� to the Appeals Board and the Council that the variance
extension be granted because their failure to comply with
°� the work during the one year period was wholly out of our
control."
MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Ms. Gabel, that
the Appeals Commission receive the letter from Mr. Ketroser
to Mr. Nasim Qureshi. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Barna questioned the fifth stipulation that the
City Council had placed on the property that read,
'�That the outside development and landscaping be completed
by July 1� 1977. He asked that if the Appeals Commission
granted the extension would the Commission change that
date.
Chairperson Schnabel said that City Council would
have to change that date since it was a stipulation that
they placed on the property.
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F��` MOTION by Mr. Barna� seconded by Mr� Plemel, to close
' the Public Hearing. Bpon a voice vote, all voting aye� the
motion carried unanimously. The Public Hearing was closed
at 7:56 P.M,
MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mr. Barna� that the
Appeals Commission recommend the approval of the request for
a one year extension of variances granted by Appeals Commission
on August 10, 1g�6, as follows; Section 205.103, �, (C,t),
to reduce the rear yard setback from 25 feet to 10 feet,
and Section 205.103� 4� �8�2) to reduce the side yard
setback from 35 feet to 17 feet �here the side yard abuts
a street of a corner lot, to allotiv an addition to an
existing building, located on Lots 16 through 19, Block 4,
Hyde Park Addition, aIl zoned C-2 (General Business Areas},
the same being 6005 University Avenue N.E., Fridley,
Minnesota, with the following stipulations: 1) The block
plan for improvement of the landscape (greenery and
shrubbery planted on the East, i`Jest and South) be
implemented, and 2) The roof design be no higher than the
original building and the parapet no higher.
Chairperson Schnabel said that in vie�v of the
recommendation by the City Attorney� the Commission should
give this item consideration�
iJPON A VOICE VOTE, Mr. Plemel, Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Barna
voting aye� Ms. Gabel abstaining, the motion carried�
Ms. Gabel abstained her vote because she does some
business tivith M& I and she felt it v�ould have been a
conflict of interest to vote on the motion.
Chairperson Schnabel said that the item would be
heard by the City Council on November 7, 197?�
2. REQUEST FOR VARIANCE OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, SECTTON
ATED
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un � nc,� elby Avenue, St. Paul� Minxiesota 551pt�)
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to open the
Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote� all voting aye, the
motion carried unanimously. The Public Hearing was
opened at 8:03 P�M.
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AO�iINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
� 7300 University Ave. N.F.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIRE�4ENT:
Section 205.103, 1(F,3), requiring that curb opening in C-2 zoning
(general business areas) be no closer to the intersecting street
right of way than 75 feet.
Public purpose served fiy this requirement is to provide adequate
clearance from intersections for safe ingress and egress to and
from business properties, and to allow for proper traffic flow
in the vicinity of intersections in these areas.
6. STATED HARDSHIP:
Existing car wash business is obsolete and out of business (boarded up).
former car wash building is no lonter an exit route. Site cannot be
used for gasoline sale without requested variance for double access from
73rd.
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
The proposed driveway opens are shown on the accompanying survey in
red ink, The opening closest to University Avenue is approximately
100 feet from the westerly edge of the existing pavement on University
� Avenue. It is just under 26 feet from the intersection of the side street
right of way. Tha easterly opening is 26 feet from the intersection of
�' the right of way on the service road.
The City Engineering Department points out that future deve7opment South
of 73rd at this point, and possible extension of 73rd Avenue to East
River Road would necessitate a median on 73rd near this intersection.
This would create a potential traffic hazard problem for egress from
the easterly most opening as requested, aad may even affect traffic
flow at the western opening.
The City Alanning Department and Public Works Director point out that
the original intent of the University Avenue "loop backs" was to
eliminate openi�gs close to signaled intersections in order to save
lives and reduce accidents. They also point out that the traffic
situation and loop back access have been discussed in dQtail �aith the
petitioner in the past. It is suggested that an entrance off the service
drive and exit agreement with the l�lhite Knight Carwash can be worked out.
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Mr. Steven Coddon of 1595 Selby Avenue, 5t. Paul� the
property owner explained to the Commission exactly wwhat the
plans were for the property at 7300 University Avenue N�.
��� He said that the former business sold out. He said that
a self-service gas station was being planned for the
property. He said that the proposed business would not
wash cars and that there would be tto changes to the
building. He said that the curb cuts were necessary to
get the business into the gas station where they can
purchase the gas and then be able to exit back onto
73rd Avenue. He felt that the curb cuts were necessary
for the property to function in selling gasoZine.
Chairperson Schnabel asked about the existing signs
on the property.
Mr. Coddon said that the signs would be moved and
replaced by the Gas Company's own identification sign.
Ms. Gabel inquired about the existing Real Estate
sign.
Mr. Coddon said that as soon as the curb cuts were
approved� the signs would be removed. He said that the
sale of the property was contingent on the curb cuts.
Mr. Barna asked when the proposed street changes tivould
possibly come about.
Mr. Aolden said that there was no definite date. �
Mr. Barna asked if the buyers of the property
intended to also utilize the drivetivays that were
located on the North side of the property.
Mr. Cresswell of 16245 Glengary Court� Rosemont�
said that they planneci to keep all the existing driveways.
Mr� Barna asked if any of the existing bays would be
opened for any type of service areas.
Mr. Cresswell said that the existing bays would not
be used for any type of service area. He said that if the
bays vrould be used for anything, they would convert them
to office area £or use solely by the Gas Company.
Mr. Barna asked if the station would be entirely self-
service.
Mr. Cresswell said that it vroul.d be entirely self-
service, He said that it would be a 2t�-hour operation.
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Mr. Coddon explained to the Commission exactly what +��
the proposed traffic flow would be.
Mr. Cressvrell showed the Commission pictures of gas
� etations that the Gas Company presently owned and
operated. He said that the decor Would be basically the
same as the one on the pictures.
Mr. Cresswell discussed several o£ the different
options that had been suggested to him. He said
that the requested way vras the only option that they
wattted to consider since he felt that they tivould enable
the best� safest� and most desirable way for the Gas
Company. He said that the trucks coming into the Station
needed enough space to maneuver rrithout any hazardous
situations.
Chairperson Schnabel asked if they would
consider only one opening on 73rd Avenue for entry
and then have the customer egit onto Commerce Lane.
Mr. Coddon said that it would be entirely
unsatisfactory. He said that it vrould be too much of
an inconvenience to the customers.
Chairperson Schnabel questioned the potential traffic
problem that �ould result from traffic turning from
Commerce Lane and traffic exiting and entering the
� proposed Gas Station.
— Mr. Cresswell said that potential traffic problems
were al�ays encountered Mhenever one street ti^rould enter
another street. He said that people would be, and alvrays
are� expected to be cautious when eniering into an
intersection. He said that the main reason for the
request was to make entrance and exit easier for the
big trucks that would be using and servicing the gas
station.
Chairperson Schnabel said that by measuring 75 feet
from the lot line to the West, that the beginning of the
opening for a driveway �ould come almost directly across
from the gas pumps and as discussed previously that would
not have been desirable or safe entrance
Mr. Barna said that if they widened and made more
attractive the northern-most drive�ay on the property
thai many people �vould choose to use that driveway.
He suggested that the buyers make the two existing
driveways into one extra-wide driveway.
MOTION by Mr. Barna� seconded by Mr. Plemel to
close the Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all
� voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. The
Public Hearing was closed at 8:37 P,M.
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_. �� Mr. Plemel said that the request defeated the purpose
of loop backs. He said that it vaould be easier to deny
the request if it had not been violated so many places in �
the City.
Mr. Barna couldn�t foresee 73rd Avenue getting the
same usage as Mississippi or Osborne Road.
Mr. Holden said that there was a lot of contingencies
3nvo2ved in the development of �3rd Avenue, but there was
the possibility.
Mr. Barna said that he would have no objections to
the request with the projected traffic patterns as could
be seen in the area usage.
Ms. Gabel said that there was a potexitial for traffic
so there �vould be a potetttial for danger. She said that
she would like to see the drive�rays onto the Commerce Lane
widened and improved, �vhich would probably encourage
people to use it.
Mr. Plemel said that there �ras presently already
greenery on the North boundary of the property. He ivould
also like to see the driveway onto Commerce Lane widened
and improved.
Mr. Cress�vell said that any suggestion would be
considered. He said that the 13gkt post that tivas �
presently situated between the trro drive�vays onto -
Commerce Lane could be moved, He said that it would
be possible to consider making the two existing driveways
into one large driveway. He said that v�hatever was done
would have to be done with the Yact that it tivould have to
be easily usable by trucks.
Mr. Holden asked cvhat type of sign was being planned
for the property.
Mr. Cress�vell said that they would use the Company
provided sign and it Nould be the biggest allowable sign.
$e said that he rvanted the sign to be readable by the
passing traffic. He said that as few signs as possible
would be used.
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MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Plemel, that the
Appeals Commission recommend the approval of the request
for variance of the Fridley City Code� Section 205.104, 1
(F�3)� C-2 Zoning (General Business Areas), to reduce the
edge of a curb opening to the nearest portion of street
Tight of tivay from the required '75 feet to 25 feet 10 1/2
inches� so there can be two driveway openings on 73rd Avenue
Northeast, located on the south half of Lot 1, Block 3,
Commerce Park Addition, the same being 7300 University
Anenue Pi.E.� Fridley� Minnesota, �vith the stipulation
that the driver�ay openings at the northwest corner of
the property be a��to code" opening to make entry a.nd
egress to that property more desirable.
Ms. Gabel said that the property oamer would close the
one drivevray and make the remaining driveway wider and
more aesthetically pleasing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, Mr. Plemel, Ms. Schnabel,
Ms. Gabel, and Mr. Barna voting aye� Mr. Kemper
abstaining� the motion carried.
Mr. Kemper abstained because he returned to the
meeting too late to have heard all the issue.
Chairperson Schnabel said that the item would go
to City Council on I3ovember 7, 197'7,
3. REQUEST FaR VARIANCE QF FRIDLEY CITY CODE, SECTION
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ron on Street N,E., Fridley, Minnesota 55432).
MOTION by Mr. Kemper, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to open the
Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the
motion carried unanimously. The Public Hearing was
opened at 8;48 P.M.
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ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
595 Ironton Street N,E.
PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.053, 4,6 (5,b} requiring a 25 foot side setback
for a corner lot.
Public purpose served by th�s section of the code is to reduce
the traffic hazards presented 6y an entrance too close to an
intersection.
STATED HARDSHIP:
This is a small lot, and two trees would have to be removed
if I had to meet the required set6ack. No hovses face Sroad
Avenue so it would not inconvenience the neigh6ors. If I
had to meet the required setback, the cost and maintenance of
the additional driveway would make an economic hardshiip.
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIE!•!:
Field measurements show a 10 foot 6oulevard on the west side of the
property in question. 7he distance from curb to garage door at
the requested setback would be 25 feet. It should be noted that
the standard car length is approximately 20 feet, which wouid mean
that a car parked in driveway v�ould encroach 5 feet into the public
right of way.
Also, the owner is cautioned that this proposed contruction will
encroach on a private easement for well access. The City doesn't
involve itself in private easements, and recommerids that the
petitio»er possible rece9ve iegal counsel and attemot to have
the easement vacated. It is our understanding that the "well"
is not longer in use.
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Ms. Lawrence of 595 Ironton Street NE explained to
the members of the Commission what she proposed to do. S}le
explained that if she had to meet all the codes, she would
�have to remove a tree that she would prefer to keep. She
_ also indicated that she would like to be able to have as
much green area as possible on her lot.
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Chairperson Schnabel clarified what Ms. I,awrence
was saying. She said that Ms. Lawrence had a 60 foot
lot and if she met the 25 foot setback and built a 24 foot
wide garage, she would then be i�9 feet back on the lot
which vrould bring her 11 feet from the neighbor's lot line.
Ms. Lawrence agreed with what Ms. Schnabel said.
Mr. Barna said that with what Ms. Schnabel had
said, Ms, La�arence vaould have to build the garage �vithin
the drip line of the tree, which vrould then damage the roots.
Ms. Lawrence said that next summer she planned to
remove the existing driveway and put a nerr driveway to the
garage. She showed the Commission, on the piciure they had,
exactly where she proposed to put the new driveway.
Ms. Gabel wanted to know what a private well easement
was.
Mr. Barna
easement was.
since the well
cited an example as
He said that in his
was no longer used.
to what a private well
case it vras immaterial
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Chairperson Schnabel read a note dated September 24, �977
from Mr. Virg Herrick. ��;'�ell and well access easement is
private in nature, City did not request and was not 3eeded
easement. Easement was from one private party to another.
Vacation proceeding would not be in order since ihe City
has nothing to vacate. City can issue building permit as
per normal City Codes. Property oMner should be cautioned
that even though the City issues a permit, it is up to the
property owner to satisfy in their own mind as to building
on easement being OK or go through some other legal procedure
to dispose of easement.��
Chairperson Schnabel indicated that if Ms. Lawrence
felt it �vas necessary to satisfy herself if that was legal,
she should go through some type of legal procedure to dispose
of the easement.
Ms. Lawrence said that she had done much checking on
ihe issue before shs made the request. She said that she had
been told that the permit could be issued with the
stipulation that the City would not be responsible for any
ramification because of the easement and she in,dicated that
she would accept that responsibility.
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Chairperson Schnabel asked if it would infringe on the
_ �2 tree if the request vras made from the required 25 feet from
� `the property Iine on the side street to 20 feet instead of
�5 feet.
Ms. Lawrence indicated that when she submitted the
proposal, she wanted the garage as close as possible and
she understood that she could make the request to 15 and
the Commission could move it to 20; but i£ she made the
request for 20� they could not move it to 15. She had no
problem vrith either 15 or 20 feet.
Chairperson Schnabel explained that the average car
length rras 20 feet tivhich tivould mean that a car parked in
the drivelva}* tivould encroach five feet into the public
right of iva}* if she had the 15 foot setback. Thereby,
she said that if Ms. Lavrrence had a 20 foot setback
that problem rrouZd not occur.
Mr. Barna said that the 15 foot variance would not
upset the look af Broad Street or the traffic situation
as it stood.
Chairperson Schnabel asked how heavily traveled
the intersection of Ironton & Broad Streets was,
Ms. Lavrrence said that it wasn�t very heavily
traveled. She said Lhat it was a school bus stop.
Chairperson Schnabel said that actually in
relation to the intersection? Ms. Lavrrence's home
v�as to the rear of the lot�
Mr. Barna said that the home �vas actually almost
100 feet from the intersection, counting the front yard.
Chairperson Schnabel asked �hen Ms. Lawrence �vould
plan construction of the garage.
Ms. Lawrence said she would begin as soon as possible.
Mr. Holden asked exactly how close the construction
would be to the tree.
Mr. Barna said that if Ms. Laivrence went back 20 feet,
she Nould be in the drip line of the tree; he said at )5
feet she would still be cutting some of the minor roots of
the tree.
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Chairperson Schnabel said that the Public Purpose
served by requiring a 2y foot side yard setback didn't
� really seem like a valid line of reasoning on this request
because it was not a question of being too close to an
intersection.
Mr. Holden said that it should have included the
provision of the encroachment into the neighbor�s front
yard� which also didn�t apply since this Mas regarding
back-to-back properties.
Chairperson Schnabel said that in this instance,
it really was not applicable. She said that she could
understand the 25 foot setback in terms of parking
hazards or something of that nature; she said that she
really couldn�t see it as a possible intersection hazard.
Ms. Gabel said that she was glad to see her build
a garage. She said that it had to be kept in mind that
the home was small and people do need extra storage room.
MOTION by Mr. Kemper� seconded by Ms. Gabel, to
close the Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, the motion carried unanimously, The Public Aearing
was closed at g:09 P�M�
MOTION by Ms. Gabel, seconded by Mr. Plemel, that the
� Appeals Commission approve the reauest for variance of
Fridley City Code, Section 205.053, 4�b (5,b) to reduce
the setback for any attached or unattached accessory building
tivhich opens on the side street, from the required 25 feet
from the property line on the side street to 15 feet, to
allorr the construction of a 24 foot x 24 foot detached
garage on Lots 33 and 34, Block F, Rivervie�r Heights
Addition, the same being 595 Ironton Street N.E.� Fridley,
Minnesota� �vith the understanding that any problems resulting
from building on the tvell easement belonged to the petitioner
and the City ��ould assume no responsibility.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
Chairperson Schnabel explained that Ms� Lawrence could
apply for her building permit.
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MOTION by t4r� Barna� seconded by Mr. Kemper, to
Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote� all voting
motion carried unanimously. The Public Hearing
at 9:tt P.M.
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ADMIP,ISTRATIVE STAFF REVIE�,U
PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY RE�UI�4�TIT:
open the
aye� the
v�as opened
Section 21y.o55, 4 requirin a maximum height for a
free standing sign in CR-1 �general office and
limited business) of 6 feet.
Public purpose served is to provide for control of
small szgns in the limited zone of CR-7.
STATED HARDSHIP:
Variance requested to permit sign
from I�694, tiVhich is some 12 feet
site location of sign; and so that
8 feet deep cJill not be buried tvro
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIy�"l:
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to have visibility
higher grade than
sign ivhich is
feet into the ground.
The sign as proposed has not been located on the site
plan at this vrriting. It is possible that such a high
sign may be a detraction for the adjacent residential
areas.
Mr. Dick 1Valsh of 561 3rd Street� representing Equity
Construction Company �vas present at the meeting.
Air. Holden requested Mr, l"Jalsh to indicate on the
drawing the exact location of the requested sign.
Mr. 49alsh indicated vrhere the proposed sign would be
placed. He said that the main reason for the request was
to enable them to have a sign that would have exposure to
Interstate 694. He said that the sign tvould have the
Real Estate 10 Logo. He said that there would be �vood
encasing around the poles o£ the sign and that the sign
�vould be internall.y lighted. He said that the light would
be on a time-clock that �vould turn the lights on at dusk
and then Real Estate 10 �vould decide at Nhat time the
lights tivould be turned off.
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Chairperson Schnabel asked if there arould also be
signs located on the Real Estate office building in
add3tion to the requested sign.
Mr. LYalsh said that in all probability there would be
the Rea1 Estate 10 logo signs located on the building itself.
Ghairperson Schnabel read from the existing Code Book
regarding the r�all signs. She said that the drawing they
had before them was sho�ring tvro signs to be located on the
building� she asked for explanation.
Mr. Holden said that he tivasn't sure how the wall sign
subject rras being handled.
Mr. Walsh said that vrhatever was done on the building
would be done according to the City Codes. He saa.d that
the main thing vfas to get a free standing sign to
advertise that the building tivas in existence and also to
advertise the name of Real Estate 10.
Chairperson Schnabel vranted to know the height of the
building.
Mr. Holden said that the highest point of the building
was approximately 20 feet.
Ghairperson Schnabel asked i£ the sign v�ould be above
the 20 foot portion of the building.
Mr. PJalsh said that possibly it erould be about
1- 1� feet above that highest point. He said that it
wouldn't be extremely high into the air. He indicated
that very possibly the sign itself �+ouldn�t be much above
the 20 foot point. Ae said that the additional distance
�vould probably be necessary because of the wood casing
that they �vould put around the sign.
Mr. Kemper �vanted to kno�v exactly what the code said
regarding the request.
Chairperson Schnabel said that the Code read,
"Maximum Height of Free Standing Sign: Six feet above
lot grade".
Mr. Walsh showed the Commission different pictures of signs
that had been constructed by the Company he represented.
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. Chairperson Schnabel indicated that a CR-1 and CR-2
zone basically coverecl Medical and Office Buildings. She �
said that for some reason that particular piece of
property had been zoned CR-1. She said that Real Estate 10
had to obtain a Special Use Permit to construct their
building on that Iot. She said that because of the CR-1
zoning, the City still had to folloti� the Sign Code that
had been established for that zoning.� She said that i£
Rea7. Estate 10 had built in a regular Commercial District�
a 25 foot sign vrould have been permitted.
Mr. t9alsh said that that �ras the main reason that a
variance was being requested,
Chairperson Schnabel said that the real problem ivas
thai basically the area tivas zoned residential.
Mr. 19alsh said that they i�reren't planning to put up
any sign that would any way be offensive to any residential
property.
Chairperson Schnabel said that her biggest concern
tivas the visibility of the sign over the top of the
building to the residential area that is directly behind.
She didn't tivant a sign that rrould be sticking above the
roof. She said that the area �vas very open land with fetv
trees and the sign vrould be most visible to the surrounding
homes. ' �
There was some discussion by the Conmission members
regarding the lots and the zoning of the lots in the
nearby areas.
Mr. Walsh said that they ti�ranted to construct the sign
to be as close to 20 feet high as possible.
Mr. Kemper asked if the building ��ould have that type
of sign at all� if the request were denied.
Mr. @lalsh said that they �vould be advised not to spend
a lot of money for a sign that wouldn�t be seen by the
public, He said that they rrould have to do something to be
able to inform people who they were and exactly v�hat the
building vras.
Mr. Kemper said that the sign would be out of p2ace
for the neighborhood.
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Ms. Gabel pointed
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advertising.
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purposes rather than actually
Mr. PJalsh said that any outdoor sign was designed
to accomplish tvro purposes. He said that the main purpose
was to advertise the business and the other �vas a form
of sub-conscience advertising, as �vas the case of The
Real Estate Company; a purpose of keeping their name in
front of the Public.
Mr. �Yalsh said that he felt the sign should be up
high enough to be visible from Interstate 694 rrhich was
approximately 12 feet above the top of the building.
Ae said that they tvould like to have as much flexibility
as possible in placing the sign keeping in mind any
guidelines that the Commission would set.
Mr. V�alsh pointed out that the Real Estate �gency
Nanted the maximum amount of signage that they could
obtain.
There �ras a brief discussion by the Commission
regarding the Sign Code that ivas in the process of being
re-rrritten. This discussion took place only for the
purpose of possibly seeing in what direction the nevr
Code rrould be going. It eras not actually a conclusive
discussion�
Mr. l'Jalsh said that Real Estate 10 did spend a
lot of money to have signs and advertising that appealed
to the public.
Mr. Pleme7. said that the point of the Freelvay 694
where the sign ti�rould be visible rvas actually such a
beautiful vietiv of the city� especially at night� that he
really didn't want that view to be ruined by a sign.
Chairperson Schnabel explained that the problem the
Commission Nas having with the request ��ras that after
agonizing over a lot of signs, a project comm�ttee made up
of citizens that revierred the entire Sign Ordinance was
organized, She said that a proposal from the project
committee vras in the process of being revierred by most
of the Commissions and vras ready to be reviewed by the
City Council. She said that most of the citizen Commissions
of the City of Fridley had been made very conscience and
anrare of signs because of the many discussions that had
taken place during the past year. She said that it was
that a�vareness that ivas causing the Commission to take such.
a hard look at the request.
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�� Chairperson Schnabel said that the public opinions
had been expressed to decrease the amount of signs and to
create a lower profile of signs in the City.
Mr. IValsh said that he was in favor of tasteful signs.
Chairperson Schnabel said that she didn't feel there
rvas any disagreements to the type of sign being proposed.
She said that it ��ras mainly the height of the sign that
vras being questioned�
Ms. Gabel said that the Commission �vas really
concerned abbut businesses. She said that the problem
was holv they could be fair to both business and to the
residents.
Mr. VJalsh �ras in agreement to the suggestion that
the signclouldn�t exceed the highest point of the building.
Mr. Plemel asked if he meant the message part of the
sign� and that the border of the sign �*�ould be above ihe
building.
Mr. Walsh said that is v�hat he meant. He spent some
time trying to convince the Commission ihat the sign vaould
be nice� tastefully done, and �vould enhance the building.
Mr. Barna said that the Commission was discussing the
entire sign; the message part and the border.
There �vas much discussion by the members of the
Commission regarding the interpretation of the Sign Code
and hora and tirhere the top of the sign �vould be measured
from the ground. This discussion also touched on the
subject of exactly hotv much exposure ��ould be received
from Interstate 694 in regards to the amount of traffic
and the concentration that is necessary to drive on that
free�vay.
Mr. Kemper asked why the 6 ft x 8 ft sign was
necessary.
Mr. Walsh sai.d that the sign i•rould be made by a
vacuum press that makes a standard six foot sign. He said
that eight foot high rras decided on to make a large sign
that e+ould give the appearance of being almost square.
MOTION by Mr. Barna� seconded by Ms. Gabel� to close
the Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote� all voting aye� the
Public Hearing i7as closed at 10:13 P.M.
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The Commission discussed exactly what height they would
stipulate the sign to be. �
t3r. Barna vras more concerned about being sure the Sign
� would not block the intersection visibiZity even mae than
blocking the view from the top�
The other Commission members were expressing more
concern about the sign obstructing the vietiv into and out
from the residential area that completely �rould surround
the Real Estate 10 building.
MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mr. Barna, that the
Appea].s Gommission recommend the approval of the request for
variance of the Fridley City Code, Section 211�.055, y, to
increase the maximum height for a free standing sign in
Cl2-1 Zoning (General Offices and Limited Businesses), from
six feet to the maximum height of 1� feet from the
closest curb line at Hill�rind Road NE to the top of the
finished structural member of the sign measured perpendicular
to the right-of-�vay line, to allow the construction of a
6 foot by $ foot sign, to be located on Lot 1, Block 1,
Real Estate 10 Addition, the same being 95� Hillrrind Road NE,
Fridley� t�finnesota.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, Mr. Plemel, Ms. Schnabel, Ms. Gabel
and Mr. Barna voting aye; Mr. Kemper voting nay, the motion
carried,
Chairperson Schnabel sai.d that the item vrould go before
the City Council on November 7, 1977�
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Chairperson Schnabel explained that at the September 20, 197�
Appeals Commission meeting a stipulation had been put on the
item indicating that the petitioner could notify the listed
persons that r�ere required to be notified of an additional
variance from Section 2Q5.o53, 4b; 5a, to reduce the
required 17�5 foot side yard setback to 16 feet� in ��rhich
case� then the item tivould not have to go to City Council.
She said that it had been discovered in ihe process of
revierring the request that the petitioner had not been
advised that they tivould need a variance for a side yard
set back because there was an unvacated street at the side
oi' the lot�
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Chairperson Schnabel said that the Appeals Commission
!^ �� had felt that since it had been a Staff oversi�ht, they did
`- not rrant to put any undue financial hardship on the petitioner
who had to meet a deadline for the purchase of the house in
order to avoid a substantial increase in the price of the
house�
Chairperson Schnabel said that there were eight
people that ��ere asked to sign a petition� and the
petitioner received all eight of the signatures. She said
that the signatures tivere received and the item did not
have to go to City Council.
MOTION by Ms. Gabel, seconded by Mr. Kemper, to
receive the subject petition. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. The
petition <<tas received at 10:37 P�M.
6. ADVISORY STEINDARDS FOR LAND USE R�GULATION
Chairperson Schnabel said that the booklet that each
member of the Commission had received vras most interesting.
She said it had recommendations from the Committee that
had been apoointed. She said that the actual booklet
had been a joint effort by the Metropolitan Council fo the
Trrin Cities Area and the Association of Metropolitan
Municipalities. She pointed out that most of the
suggestions �rere ninimum suggestions.
Chairperson Schnabel said that there mere many
interesting items in the booklet and recommended that the
membezs be sure to read the information.
7. PIIBLIC DISCLOSIIRE STATEMENT
Chairperson Schnabel indicated that each member had received
a Public Disclosure Statement and reminded the members that
they vere due back by October 26, 1977.
ADJOURNf•4�NT
MOTION by Mr. Barna� seconded by Mr. Plemel, to
adjourn the October tl� 1977� Appeals Commission meeting.
Upon a voice vote� aIl voting aye� the motion carried
unanimously. The meeting rras adjourned at 10:1�1 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary
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PUBLIC NEARING
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. PLANNIt�G COMtfISSION
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TO WHON IT MAY CONCERN:
Notice is hereby given that there will 6e a Public Nearing of the �
Planning Commission of the City of fridley in the City Hall at 6431 Univer-
sity Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, October 19, 1977 at 7i30 P.M. in the �
Cuuncil Chamber for the purpose oF:
Consideration of a request for a Special Use
Permit,.SP #77-13, b.y Inter Cit.y Builders, per
Fridley City Code, Section 205.157, 5, D, to
allow the construction of a detached 24 ft.
x 22 ft. garage in CRP-Z zoning (flood plain)
on Lots 1, 2, 3 and 4, Block W, Riverview
Heights, lying in the North Half of Section
3. T-30, R-24, City of Fridley, County of
Anoka, Minnesota.
Generally located at 609 Cheryl Street N.E.
Ar�y and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity
dt the above stated time and place.
Pubtish: October 5, 1977
October 12> 1977
RICHARD H. HARRIS
CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
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'PROPERTY OISNGR'S SIGNA7'URE �f'�' '
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Street Location of Property
Legal Description of Property
Present Zoning Classification
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Re.zoning
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Approval of Premin-
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Streets or Alley
Vacations
Other
Fee�l�� Receipt No. �/o�
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Existing Use of Property
Acreage of Property Describe briefly the proposed zoning classification
or ,type �of use and improvement proposed -���,Er�Lei.,�e` �f� 11 �. dt G2:��-�
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tlas he present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a 2ot split or
variance or special use pennit on the subject site or part of it? yes_�no.
Mhat was requested and wlten?
Tlie undersigned understands that: (a) a list of all residents and rnaners o£ property
�ti�thin 300 feet (350 feet for rezoning) must be attached to this appiication.
(b) This application must be signed by all o�rners of the property, or an explanation
given cahy this is not the case. (c) P.esponsibility for any defect in the proceedings
resulting from the failure to list the names and sddresses of all residents and
property owncrs of property in question, belongs to thc undcrsigned. ..
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A skefch of proposed property and stnicture must be draa�n and attached, sho�oing the
following: 1. North Direction. Z. Location of proposed structure on the lot.
S. Uimensions of property, proposed strncture, and front and side setbaci:s.
.' 4. Street Names, 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 300 fect).
The un�icrsigned hercby declares that.all ihc facts and represcntations,stated in this
application are truc �nd eorrect.
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Planning Commission Approvcd City Council Approved
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MAILING LIST
SA #77-13 Inter City Builders
construct 9arage in flood plain
Commissioner - Department of Natural
Centennial Office Building
St. Paul, Minnesota 55155
Inter City Builders
2500 Murray Avenue N.E.
Minneapolis, Mn
Gerald Kostohryz
698 Cheryl Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. James Eastwood
591 Dover Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Donald
7981 Broad Avenue
Fridley, Mn 55432
Planning Cortmission October 5, 1977
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Stewart F. Kualheim '
4242 Reservoir Blvd.
Mpls< Mn 55421 , -
Mr. & Mrs. M. Dwight Just
661 Cheryl Street N.Ee
Fridley, �n 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Wilmes Tiede
581 Buffalo Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Lawrence Thanpson
611 Buffalo Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Copeland Wal-Don Builders, Inc.
N.E. 6�25 Nicollet Avenue
Minneapolis, Mn 55423
Mr. & Mrs. Ir�in Lindstrom
� 540 Dover Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
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Lakeview Drive
Hancock, Michigan 49930
Mr. & M1^s. Edwin Johnson
625 Dover Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Einar Erickson
631 Dover Street N.E.
Fridley, 61n 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Richard Carlson
615 Cheryl Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Ms. Thesa Gazda
fi27 Cheryl Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Ms. Marion Hudyma
641 Cheryl Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Arnold H. Block
641 Buffalo Street N.E.'
Fr.idley, Mn 55432
Morris C. Parvey
7921 Riverview Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Scott Anderson
7921 Riverview Terrace N.E.
Fridiey, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Bruce Mathison
7941 Riverview Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Robert Kohls
640 Cheryl Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Kenneth Nivala
630 Cheryl Street N.E.
Fridley 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Clark Nason
614 Cheryl Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 ,
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BEFORE THE
PLANNING COiNMISSION
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
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Notice is here6y given that there will be a Public Hearing of..tfie '
Planning Cortmission of tBe City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 tlniver-
sity Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, October 19, 1977 at 7:30 P.M. in the
Council Chamber for the purpose of:
Consideration of a request for a Special Use
Permit, SP ��7-14, by Thomas Brickner, per
Fridley City Code, Section 2Q5.051, 3, D,
to allow the construction of a double bungalow
in R-t zoning (single family dwelling areas),
on Lot 1, Block 1, Heather Hills, all located
in the South Half of Section 13, T-30, R-24,
City of Fridley, County of Anoka, Minnesota.
Generally located at 1430-1432 Rice Creek Road
N.E.
My and all persons desiring to 6e heard shall be given an opportunity
at the above stated time and place.
PUBLISH: October 5, 1977
Octo6er 12, 1977
RICHARD H. HARRIS
CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COM�iISSION
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Street Location of Property /'�� ,� C .��c-,-.0
Legal Description of Property
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Rezoning
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Approval of Premin-
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Streets or Allcy
Vacations
Other
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Present Zoning Cl ssification Existing Use of Property j,(./�,��.,,,C
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Acreage of Property _ _� �� Describe briefly the proposed zoning classification
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Has tAe present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? yes � no.
Mhat was requested and when? • •
7'he undersigned understands that: (a) a list of all residentc and o�+ners of property
rtithin 300 feet (350 feet for rezoning) nust be attact�ed to this application.
(b) 7'his application must be signed by all owners of the pronerty, or an explanation
given iahy this is not the case. (c) Respoiisiuility for any uefect i.n the proceedings
Tesulting from thc failure to list ihc names and addresses of all residents and
property owncrs of property in question, belongs to thc undcrsigned. .
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drax�n and attached, showing thc
following: 1. �'orth Direction, 2, Location of proposed structure on the lot.
S. llimensions of property, proposed struccure, and from and side setb�cks.
.' 4. Street Names. S. Location and use of adjaccnt existing buildings (Nithin 300 feet).
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The un�icrsigned'hcreby declares that all thc facts and represcntations.stated in this
application are truc and corrcct. -
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Piamiing Coa�nissirni ApprovcJ City Council ApprovcJ
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Planning Co�isaion 9-5-77 1
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MAILING LIST
SP #77-14
Thanas Brickner pouble Bungalow in R-1 Zoning
� Thamas Brickner Mr. Herbert Lennox III
1401 Kerry Circle N.E. 1461 Rice Creek Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
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Mr. & Mrs. James Skog
6274 Ben Mare �rive N.E.
fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Walter Jacobson
6266 Ben More Drive N,E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
M r& Mrs. Harry Messick
6257 Ben More Drive NE
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. John Beaulieu
6244 Kerry Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
R. John Whited
6291 Kerry Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
i�e�s16 L. Woodal l
6283 Kerry Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Michael Logli
6275 Kerry Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Edward Bauler
1420 Rice Creek Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Ervin Kassow
1400 Rice Creek Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Herbert Jensen
1450 Rice Creek Road N,E.
fridle,�, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Hjalmer Anderson
1491 Rice Creek Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Floyd Paulson
1425 Rice Creek Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Sherwood Jordahl
1456 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPLICANT• T� �• �ICKSON
���g: 7515 ALDEN WAY N.E. FRIDLEY 55432
Street City Zip Code
TELEYHONE # 571-2134 571-6000
Home Business
PR�PIItTY 041NII1(S� SAl� AS ABOVB
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Date Filc�l: !3,� ?7 {
Fee:&-��`O`Receipt jr 5 5��3 t
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Street City Zip Code
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Street � City Zip Code
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Property Location on Street 7515 ALDEN WAY N.E. FRIDLEY (INVOLVES ABOOT
or EScact Street Address (IF ANY�
ELEVEN FEST OFF � LOrf 6 TO BS ADDED TO LOT 7)��, �A ur%<� C�l�.-,�
Legal Description of Properiy:
Lot 6, Block 2, Elwell's Bivezaide lieig6ta Plat 2, City of Fridley, Minneaota
See attached copy of Certificate of aurvey vith legal easement description)
Reason for Lot Split: I, as awner of lot 6 a�l 7 built a:house on lot 7. G Largc
beautiful tret vas in the way for the driveway. By using about 11 feet of lot 6
h I also owned) it was possible to aave the tree. I got approval from the
Council before paving the driveway. Nw, I vis6 to legally deed those
et to lot 7.
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The undersigned hereby declarea that all the facts and
representations stated in this application are true and
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REIAW FOR CITY USE ONLY (See revesse side for additional instructions ;
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CHECKED BY STAFF DATE �
Remarks:
�LANNING COMMISSION: Date of Consideration —
Remarks:
CITY COUNCIL: Date of Conaideration —
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beginniny, a[ a poinC na Che Svuti� ilue of :ind 1i.�7 [eLt .�st of ti�e Sectiticast curi�eY
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harebH acknowledged, do ..................henby (�rant, Bargain, Qui.talaim, and Convet/ un% tJu aaid part.._].F,9._
of the aecond part, _...��e.�r_._keira ¢nd asaignsa, Foreaer, atl trte tract.__..ar parcei_of iand Ly�zg
o�nd bei,nd in the County of••-•—.�91Ee- ---and St.atc of Minneaota, deacribed aw foliows,
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That part oP Lot 6, Block 2, Elwell's Riverside Heights
Plai 2, City oP Fridley, t4innesota, lyi.ng easterly of
thePollosring described line; beginning at a point on
South line of and 11.27 feet west of the Southeast
corner oP said Lot 6; thence Northeasterly 1�.3.83 fest,
moxe or less, to a point on the North line of and 10.09
Poet West of the Northeast corner of said Lot 6, and
there terminating.
g0 �Abt Afla f0 �Ol� Hjt �dtltt. Togat.heo� udth abl tlu ka�editamenta and appurtcn.ancea there-
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Lot 6 a Lot 7 lock 2 �
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The undersigned hereby declares that all the facts and
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BFLOW FOR CITY IISE ONLY (Seo reverse side for additional instructions
CHECKED BY STaF'F llATE
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3847 155th Avsnue N.E.
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DESCRIPTION
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DeVerne Company .
of
Proposed Lot Division of Lot 10, Block 3, Innsbruck North 2nd .
Addition, Anoka County, Minnesota. "
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Lot 9, Block 3, Innsbruck North 2nd Addition, Anoka County, Minnesota,
and that part of Lot 10, said Block 3 lying North of a line described
as beginning at the Northeast corner of said Lot 10; thence Westerly
to a point on the West line of said Lot 10, distant 8.5 feet Southerly
from the Northwest corner of said Lot 10 and there terminating.
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Lot 10, Block 3, Innsbruck North 2nd Addition, Anoka County,
Minnesota, except that part thereof lying North of a line described
as beginning at the Northeast corner of said Lot 10; thence Westerly
to a point on the West line of said Lot 10 distant 8.5 feet Southerly
from the Northwest corner of said Lot 10 and there terminating.
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNIN� COMMISSION MEE`PING
ocTOBEx t9, �977
CAI,L TO ORDER:
Chairperson Harris called the regular October 19, �977,
Planning Commission meeting to order at '7:y3 p,M,
ROLL CALL
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Shea, Bergmari� Harris, Schnabel, Langenfeld
Peterson _
Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINIITES: OCTOBER 5� 1997
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld� to
approve the October 5, 19']7, Planning Commission minutes.
IIpon a voice vote, all voting aqe� the motion carried
unanimously.
RECEIVE APPEALS COMMI5SION MINUTES: OCTOBER 11, 1977
T�IOTION by Ms. 3chnabel� seconded by Ms. Shea, to receive
the Appeals Commission minutes of October 11, 19'77,
Ms. Schnabel pointed out to the Commission that much time
had been spent at the Appeals Commission meeting in regards
to the variance request to increase the maximum height of
a free standing sign. She said the members of the Appeals
Commission were concerned because of the proposed new sign
ordinance and were concerned with such a high sign in a
residential area.
UP�N A VOICE VOTE, all noting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
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sP �77-i �� TNTF.R r.Tmv Rttrr.nFRS- pER FRIDLEY CITY CODE,
5ECTION 205,157� 5� D� TO ALI,OW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A
DETACHED 21� FT. by 22 FT GARAGE IN CRP-2 ZONING
(FLOOD PLAIN)� ON LOTS 1-4� BLOCK W� RIVERVIEW HEIGHTS�
THE SAME BEING 609 Cheryl Street N.E.
MOTION by Mr. Bergman� seconded by Ms. Schnabel� to open
the Public Hearing. IIpon a voice vote� all noting aye, the
motion carried unanimously. The Public Hearing was opened
at 7: t�8 P.M.
Mr. Boardman explained that the request was to build a
garage on an existing lot where there was an existin�
structure. He said that the entire area was in the
flood plain and according to the restrictions for a
flood plain area there would be no building or structure that
could be built in the flood plain unless a Special Use
Permit was secured. He said that there was eight regulations
on building in the flood plain. He went on to read the
regulations and gave Staff's response to many of the
regulations as to how they effected the requested garage.
PLANNING COMMTSSION MEETING - OCTOBER 19. 1977 Pa�e 2
4 BB
Mr. Boardman said that basically Staff didn't feel there would
be a lot of problems with the particular situation. He
said that the public hearing process was being followed�
notices had been sent to the Commissioner of Natural
Resources ten days prior to the Public Hearing and Staff
would notify them of action taken ten days after the
action was taken. He said that all the proper procedures
were being followed. He pointed out that Sta£f had not
heard from the Commissioner and it was being assumed that
there were no objections or input on the request.
Mr. Joseph Shun of 2500 Murray Avenue N.E.� representing
Inter City Builders was present at the meeting. He
indicated that they had agreed with the Buildin�
Inspectors to use the material he required and to follow
all building codes.
Ms. Schnabel asked the purpose of Staff requesting that
Inter City Builders obtain the neighbors� signatures.
Mr. Shun said that the surney they had was a proposed
surney. He said that without a verified surney the
City required 1} times the code requirement for setback
and also the neighbors' signatures mould be required.
He presenied Mr. Boardman with the required signatures.
Mr. Langenfeld asked if there would be any landfill used.
Mr. Shun said that they would need apprQximately ten yards
of fill to bring the garage up to the street grade.
Mr. Langenfeld asked what the fifty year average in terms
of 100 feet� etc. regarding the flood plain effecting the
property in question.
Mr. Boardman explained that on a map that each member
had! a dotted line had been inserted. He said that line
represented the approximate 100 year flood level that was
required of the City to maintain by the State of Minnesota.
He said that City was in the process of monumenting that
elevation out in the Field � He said that there was some
building going on in that area however, in most cases
no special use permits are required.
Chairperson Harris asked if the area was in the "dike area��.
Mr. Boardman said that it was.
Chairperson Harris asked if part of the requirements of
the building code was to tie the structure to the slab.
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Mr. Shun said that they were putting approximately $300
above what the same garage would have cost in a
different area. He said the garage would have water-
proof plates, studs, sheetings, and special anchors
all over the structure. He said that the driveway to
the garage would be off of Broad avenue.
Chairperson Harris asked if it �as in the plans to
hard-surface the driveway.
Mr. Shun said that it prohably wouldn't be done yet
this fall, but that the approach would be blacktopped.
Mr. Langenfeld asked if there was an urgency for the
building at this time. He asked the question due to
the fact of the oncoming winter and spring floods,
Mr. Shun said that they would like the garage built
now because of the winter weather that is approaching,
MOTION by Ms. Shea� seconded by Mr. Langenfeld� to close
the Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
the motion carried unanimously. The Public Hearing was
closed at 8:02 P,M.
Mr. Langenfeld felt that in the particular case at hand,
that even though the request is for a garage in a CRP-2
zoning, it was on the upper portion of the Flood Plain
area. He said that the petitioner•was taking all the
necessary precautions as far as impending flooding, and
they were meeting all the requirements set forth by the
DNR and the stipulations sei forth by the City of Fridley.
He said that the petitioner was fully aware of the area
in which the structure was being erected and knew the
possible hazards that could exist. He could find no
problems with granting the request.
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld� seconded by Mr. Bergman,
that the Planning Commission recommend the approval of
the request for a Special IIse Permit, SP #77-13, Inter City
Builders: Per Fridley City Code, Section 205.�57� 5� D to
allow the constnzction of a detached 2� ft by 22 ft gara�e
in CRP-2 (flood plain), on Lots 1-4, Block W, Riverview
Heights, the same being 609 Cheryl Street N.E. Upon a
voice;vote� all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Harris said that the request would go to
City Council on November 7, 1977,
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2. PUBLIC
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• r 3� D TO ALLOW THE CONSTRIICTION OF A
DOUBLE BUNGALOW IN R-1 ZONING (SIAIGLE FAMILY DWELLING
AREAS)� ON LOT 1� BLOCK t� HEATHER HILLS� THE SAME
BEING 1430-1L�32 RICE CREEK ROAD N.E�
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to
open the Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye� the motion carried unanimously. The public hearing
was opened at $:06 P.M�
Mr. Boardman explained that the requested double bungalow
would be located across the street from an already approved
double bungalow that would be built by Mr. Sherwood Jordahl.
Mr. Thomas Brickner of 11�01 Kerry Lane said that building
a double bungalow would be the best use of that piece of
property on that lot from the standpoini that the
lot was located on Rice Creek Road. He said that he had
had a lot of interest shown for the construction of a
double bungalom.
Mr. Brickner showed the Planning Commission the plans he
had for the proposed double bungalow that he would like
to build. He said that the structure would face Rice Creek
Road. He said that it would be a two-story type structure
with double garages on each end.
Chairperson Harris asked what the estimated cost for the
double bungalow would be.
Mr. Brickner said that the cost would be in the $100,000
bracket. Ae said that the double bungalow would be owner
occupied. He said that there were many requests for
double bungalows being made available in that area.
Mr. Bergman asked if he was building the double bungalow
on speculation.
Mr. Brickner said that it was speculatiee. He felt that
the City of Fridley needed more double bungalow type
dwellin$s. He said when there was a nice looking building
in that price range scattered throughout the City on the
more busy streets� it would be makin� the best use possible
for those particular lots. He also said that that type
of construction would actually increase the value of some
of the homes in the area.
Chairperson Harris asked if he �uould be living in the
double bungalow.
Mr. Brickner said that he would not.
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Mr. Brickner said that he had had many requests from people
interested in owning a double bungalow where they would
live in half and rent the other half. He felt that an
owner-occupied double bungalow was most probable.
Chairperson Harris asked about the lot size.
Mr. Boardman said that as long as the lot was at least
10,000 square feet there would be no problems. He said
that no variances would be required for the planned
double bungalow.
Ms. Schnabel said that she was concerned by having the
rental property in the middle of an R-1 neighborhood.
She was also concerned of the fact that the double
bungalow would be built on speculaiion but that
Mr. Brickner had said that it would be owner-occupied.
She wondered how that statement could be made.
Mr. Brickner
and not live
investment.
said that if someone would buy the building
in it� that person would lose money on his
Mr. Mike Togli of 6275 Kerry Lane NE said that it would
be possible that someone could buy the double bungalow
and rent out both sides and use the investment as a
tax �rrite-off.
Mr. Brickner said that that type of tax shelter has been
"tightened upi� a lot in recent years. He said that the
amount of money that would be required to pay down on his
proposed double bungalow would make it almost impossible
to have someone buy the property and not live in it,
There was some discussion regarding the surrounding
dwellings in the area.
Mr. Togli asked when Mr. Bricl�er had applied for the
Special Use Permit and when he had decided that a double
bungalow would be the best use of the property.
Mr. Brickner said that he had applied for the Special
IIse Permit a few weeks ago. He said that from the time
he bought the 1ot he had had the idea that a double
bungalow would be good on the lot.
Mr, Togli asked when Mr. Brickner would start construction.
Mr, Brickner said that it probably wouldn't be this year.
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Mr. Togli asked how many square feet each unit would be. � s
Chairperson Harris said that each unit would have
approximately 1�200 squre feet of living space.
Mr. Togli asked if Mr. Brickner would change his mind
on the lot behind the proposed double bungalow. He
said that Mr. Brickner had indicated that he planned to
build a single-family dwelling on that other lot.
Mr. Brickner said that there was no chance whatsoever
he would build anqthing except a single family dwelling
on that lot. He said that the lot was too steep to
even consider any type of double dwelling. He said that
a tuck-under type of construction would have to be
considered for that lot because of the steep gradin�.
Mr. Langenfeld said that the double buttgalow approved
for Mr. Jordahl had been given appronal based on a
financial-type hardship where Mr. Jordahl would
reside therein in order to help defray the cost.
Mr. Dennis Schneider of 6190 Stinson Blvd (Ward II
City Council) e�cplained that when the other approval
came across City Council� the primary consideration
was that the lot was a large lot with several different
types of easements that made it impossible to make it
into two lots. He indicated that the other lot had many
unusual characteristics such that traffic that went down
Kerry Lane� the headlights would shine directly into the
house. He said that on that proposal, there was two
double garages located in the center of the house that
would alleniate the headlight problem. He said that the
above was the reasons that the Special Use Permit had been
granted by City Council.
Mr. Schneider said that in the previous Special IIse Permit
request the City Council had asked the Planning Commission
to look at the Special Use Process as, in effect, a rezoning
process.
Chairperson Harris said that the Planning Commission had
heard about the request but explained that the Commission
had had a few other things to take care of.
Mr. Schneider said that what the Special Use Permit
process was actually allowing was a spot rezoning. He
said that in the prenious case� he had talked to many af
the neighbors and he sai.d there had been about a 50-50
split. He said that some of the people were totally
set against it, some were basically middle of the road, and
some had very positive reaction to it,
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4 GG
Mr, 5chneider said that with the first request he had T�
originally planned to vote against the approval. He said
that after being made aware of the many easemexit
requirements and the traffic problem and also the split
survey of the neighbors, he decided that it would be the
best use of the lot to grant the Special Use Permit. He
said that he was not prepared to make any type of judgment
on the particular case with Mr. Brickner. Ae said that he
did share in the concern that Ms. Schnabel had expressed
regarding the double bungalow in the middle of an R-1
zone.
Ms� Schnabel asked if Mr. Brickner had given any thought
of building a single-family dwelling on that particular
piece of property.
Mr. Brickner said that he had only owned the lot for a
short time but no one had ever approached him to wanting
a single-family dwelling built on the lot. He said that
he had sug�ested the lot to several people� but no one had
been interested in it because of the lot being right on
Rice Creek Road. He said that he felt there was much
demand for nice-looking double bungalows in that area.
Ms. Schnabel asked why Mr. Brickner had asked for a
Special Use Permit rather than asking for a rezoning.
Mr. Brickner said that it didn't really make any difference
how it was done to him. He sai.d that Mr. Holden had told
him that a Special IIse Permit was the best way to go.
Mr. Langenfeld pointed out that this type of Special Use
Permit required a 4/5 vote by City Council.
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld� seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to
close the Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye� the motion carried unanimously. The Public Hearing
was closed at 8;32 p.M.
Mr. Langenfeld asked if there was any problems with the
easements on the lot.
Mr. Boardmatt said that there would be no easement
problems.
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Chai.rperson Harris said that the vote on the previous
request for a Special Use Permit by Mr. Jordahl had been
a split vote by the Planning Commission. "Mr. Harris
indicated that he had voted against it at that time and
that he would also vote no on this request. He said that
a double bungalow was not a proper use for that lot that
was in and totally surrounded by R-1 zonings. He said
that there was newly built homes in the area and that the
lot in question v�ould not be an unsaleable lot� Mr. Harris
said that he had taken the opportunity to visit Mr, Brickner�s
neighbors and for the most part, they did not feel that
a double bungalow would benefit the neighborhood.
Ms. Schnabel said that she also intended to vote against
the request and pointed out that had she been at the
meeting for the previous request� she would have also
voted against that one. She said that it was not a proper
use of the lot in an R-1 zoning and she felt it was a
tendancy to spot zone. She said that the Heather Hills
area is all new construction and she felt that a single
family d�velling consistent with the neighborhood should be
placed on that lot.
Chairperson Harris said that Mr. Brickner does a fine
job of building, He builds a quality house and he was
most impressed with his structures. He complimented
Mr. Brickner on his efforts in the Heather Hills area.
Mr, Brickner said that from the conversatiott that the
best use of the property would be to build a minimum
sized house on that property. He said that if he could
build a house in the right price range� he felt he
could probably sell it. He said that he couldn�t build
the quality of house that he would like. He said that
he would probably want to build a house in the $�0,000
price range.
Chairperson Harris egplained to Mr. Brickner that he
still had the right of appeal to City Council. He said
that the Planning Commission only makes recommendaiions
to City Council. He said that City Council did have the
final note.
Chairperson Harris took an informal poll of the Planning
Commission. They all indicated negative.
Mr� Brickner requested the withdrawal of the request. He
said that from the conversation, obviously the Commission
mas against the double bungalow and he did not wish to
persue the issue further.
PI,ANNING COMMISSION MEETING - OCTOBER 1 1977 Pa�e 9
Mr. Thomas Brickner withdrew the request for a Special Use
Permit� SP #77-14: Per Fridley City Code, Section 205.051�
3lD� to allow the construction of a double bungalow in R-1
zoning (single family dwelling areas), on Lot t, B1ock 1�
Heather Hills, the same being 1430-1432 Rice Creek Road NE.
Mr. Bergman made the observation that aut of 11� property
owners that had been innited, only one showed up at the
Public Hearing.
Mr. Togli said that he had never been contacted by anyone
with either of the Special Use Permits as to whether he
was for or agaittst it.
Chairperson Harris said that he had gone to some of
the neighbors, but that he did not contact all the
neighbors.
Mr. Bergman felt awkarard with the situation. He said
that Mr. Brickner had polled the neighbors and that
he had received little opposition; then he said that
Mr. Harris talked to neighbors, and they were very
much opposed; and he said that Mr. Schneider had talked
to neighbors and there had been a 50-50 split.
Mr. Bergman said that with all the differettt discussions
vrith the neighbors and then none of the people talked
to had shown up at the Public�iearing.
Mr. Tog1i said that with that many "polls�� and he still
had never been contacted by anyone!
Ms. Schnabel said that people were very reluctant when
they are an adjacent neighbor to come and publically
say how they really feel, even when they are opposed to
an idea� because that neighbor has to live in that
neighborhood. She said that possibly many of the people
were personal friends of the Brickner�s and they were
reluctant to say something against the double bungalow
because they have to live with him as a neighbor too.
Mr. Togli was concerned about the term "spot rezoning",
Chairperson Harris explained that it was allowed in the
Code that an R-2 (double bungalow or duplex) be built in
an R-1 lot with a Special Use Permit� providing that the
mittimum square footage of the lot was 10,000 square feet
or more and has yJ5 vote of City Council.
Mr. Togli asked if many were granted. He asked if there
was a lot of spot rezoning allowed in the City of Fridley.
Mr. Boardman said that there have been about six requests
over the past few months; but that only one had gone
through and that was the one at i4.4i Rice Creek Road.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - QCTOBER 19 1977 Pa�e 10 �! �,1
3.
LOT SPLIT RE UEST� L.S. �{77-12, THURE H ERICKSON:
SPLIT OFF APPROXI AT Y-'ri—�'�',`�r'1R'jPf-L'6'1��II
IT TO LOT 7� BLOCK 2� ELWELL's RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS
PLAT 2� PER VERIFIED SURVEY AND COPY OF DEED� THE
SAME BEING 7515 and 75Q1 ALDEN WAY N.E.
Mr. Boardman explained that Lots 6& 7 were owned by one
party. Iie said that when the house on Lot 7 was built
the driveway was allowed to encroach onto Lot 6 because
he did own both lots. He said that the party was planning
to sell Lot 6 and Mr. Erickson did not want to have to
move the driveway. He said that Mr. Erickson had arranged
with the other property owner to request a lot split
so that the drivew�}r would be located on Lot �.
Mrs. Erickson of �515 Alden Way N.E, was present at the
meeting. She indicated that they had gotten permission
from City Council 15 years ago to put the drivew�y at
its present location.
Chairperson Harris asked if City would have to retain
any easements.
Mr. Boardman said that there were no easements that
the City needed at that point.
MOTION BY Mr. Bergman� seconded by Ms. Shea� to recommend
to City Council the approval of the Lot Split Request,
Z.S, #77-12? Thure H. Erickson: Split off approximately
11 feet from Lot 6, and add'it to Lot 7� Block 2, Elwell�s
Riverside Heights Plat 2� per verified survey and copy of
deed, the same being '7515 and 7501 Alden Way N.E. Upon a
voice vote� all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously.
�. LOT SPI,IT REQUEST� L.3, #77-13� DA VERNE CORPORATION:
LINE OF LOT 10 AND ADD IT TO LOT 9� BLOCK 3�
INNSBRIICK NORTH 2nd ADDITION� PER VERIFIED SURVEY
OF RECORD� SO HOUSE ON LOT 9 CAN MEET ALL THE SETBACK
REQUIRII�IENTS� THE SAME BEING 5468 and 5498 4VEST DANUBE
ROAD N,E,
Mr. Boardman said that there were no
the setbacks. He said that the lots
the requirements with the lot split.
lots were oversized lots and the lot
be effected by the split.
problems as far as
would meet all
He said that the
sizes wouldn�t
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - OCTOBER 1 1977 Pa�e 11 4�K
Ms. Schnabel wanted to know how the house at 5498 West Danube
Road NE got constructed when it didn�t meet the setback
requirements.
Mr. David E. Ficek of t393 16th Avenue NW (representing
DaVerne Corporation) said that they had interpolated the
35 foot setback as to where the house would sit. He said
that in order to sane a tree on the North side of the
property the house was moved to the south. He indicated
that they were 2.25 feet off the requirement on the
south boundary�
Mr. Boardman explained that that mas the reason City
often requir ed a survey after the foundation was laid.
He said that when the building inspector goes out to
a site to ��eye�+ the construction� all they sometimes have
to use are the stakes and sometimes the stakes would get
moved and whatever. He said that many times there are
mounds of dirt, etc. and it becomes difficult to actually
"sight" where the construction would be.
Mr. Ficek indicated the possibility of a financial
hardship on the property at 5468 and if that does
happen� then he would be applying for a variance.
Ms. Schnabel asked why Mr. Ficek hadn�t applied for a
variance instead of a 1ot split.
Mr. Ficek said that he didn�t like variances. He said
that people should stay within the codes. He agreed
that it was difficult for the building inspector
to be able to +teye+� if the building would be exactly
within codes. He said that if the lot split could be
done then both lots would be ��legal".
MOTION by Ms. Shea� seconded by Mr. Bergman� that the
Planning Commission recommend to City Gouncil the approval
of the Lot Split Request� L�S. #77-�3, DaVerne Corporation:
Split off an 8.5 ft, wedge from Northerly property line of
Lot 10 and add it to Lot 9� Block 3� Innsbruck North 2nd
Addition, per nerified survey of record, so house on
Lot g catt meet all the setback requirements, the same
being 5468 and 5498 West Danube Road NE. Upon a voice
vote� all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Harris declared a ten minute break at 9;09 P�M,
5. CONTINUED: PROPOSED MAINTENANCE CODE
MOTION by Mr. Bergman, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to
continue the Proposed Maintenance Code until the next
meeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - OCTOBER 19 1977 Pa�e 12 �� LL
6. CONTINUED: PARKS AND OPEN SPACE PLAN
Mr. Bergman said that since the Parks and Open Space Plan
would be s�eviewed at a Public Hearing that it should be
egplained in the introduction that the purpose of the
document was to identify problem areas.
Mr. Langenfeld said that to him what was being done was
a statement was being made and then it was ind3cating ivhat was
wrong with that point� and then the recommendations as
to how to change that wrong,
MOTION by Mr. Bergman that in the Sntroduction section a
siatement be inserted to indicate, ��The purpose of
this Parks and Open Space Plan and the resulting summary
of findings is to identify inadequacies in the current
Fridley Parks System�'.
Ms. Shea read Page 2� the last sentence� ��The plan is
an inventory of existing facilities and a guide for future
decisions about priorities for acquisition, park
development� provision of recreation servicer'. She said
that that would cover what Mr. Bergman wanted inserted.
Mr. Bergman didn�t feel that it did cover what he wanted
stressed� He said that an objective inventory vrould
indicate both the bad and good points. He said that
the present Plan only indicated the bad points.
�'he motion died for lack of a second.
Chairperson Harris read Objective y. in Section y.�
Summary of Findings:
Encourage the advancement of recreation opportunities
for all residents.
Ms. Schnabel felt that the first finding, ��The City�s
recreation pro�;rams do not reflect a wide range of
activities for xe sidents" could be stated in a different
way so that it wouldn't be quite so negative sounding.
Mr. Bergman said that that idea could be done throughout
the Plan.
Mr. Langenfeld sai d that the Environmental Quality Commission
suggested changing Finding 5 by deleting the term
"nature study enthusiasts�� from the finding.
Mr. Bergman said that it was a shame that Parks &
Recreation Commissiott was not represented at the
Planning Commission meeting.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - OCTOBER 19 1977 Pa�e 13
MOTION by Mr. Bergman� seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to
chattge the first finding tot ��There is a need for a wide
range of recreational activities which better reflect
the needs of the City�s residents��. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously�
MOTION by Ms� Shea� seconded by Mr. Bergman, that finding
#{5 be changed to, "The City needs to better identify the
recreational needs of special-need groups within the
Community��. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously,
Ms. Schnabel didn�t think that Findings 6& 7 belonged
in this Objective� She said that they should be in their
own special section.
Ghairperson Harris said that the Findings were aiming
at how Staff deals with the recreational opportunities.
Mr. Langenfeld said that Staff requirements needed to
be evaluated in order to enable the City to encourage
the advancement of recreational opportunities. He said
that these findings didn�t belong in Objective 1 because
Facilities were discussed in that Objective.
Ms. Schnabel asked if it could be included in Objective 2.
Chairperson Harris said that Objective 2 discussed Park
Design.
MOTION by Mr. Bergman� seconded by Ms. Schnabel� that
Objective 6 be added to the Objectives and Findings 6& 7
under Objective �. be listed under Objective 6.
Objection 6 would read, +�Maintain and/or establish adequate
professional and administrative park and recreational area
planning and activities�t� Ugon a voice vote� all voting aye'
the motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Harris read Objective 5 in Section G.� Summary
of Findings:
Provide for innovative space management to allow
balance of use, freedom and cotttrol, with safety as
a prime consideration.
There was some discussion as to what was meant by
��innovative space management�'.
Mr. Bergman asked what was meant in Fittding 2 as to what
was a recreational trail system....
Chairperson Harris said it was walkways� bikevuays� and
horse trails.
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Mr. Bergman said that the City of Fridley already had that
system and that it was on paper and all that had to be
done was to implement the existing plan.
Chairperson Harris pointed out that it actually was not
in existence� that it hadn�t been implemented.
Finding 4 under Objective 5 was discussed next.
Mr. Langenfeld
Commission had
the statement.
said ihat the Environmental Quality
asked that "private areas" be added to
Chairperson Harris said that that would then include
Metronics and Onan's areas. He suggested the word to Ue
added be ��commercial��.
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld� that
Finding 4 under Objective 5 read� ��There is a need to
coordinate regional, county, city, and commercial areas of
park and open space interest to provide a ecTqu�a e active
and passive recreational areas'�.
Chai.rperson Harris said that "commercial"' would mean the
driving ranges, miniture golf, pool halls, etc.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
Ms. Shea felt that Finding 5 under Objective 5 should
read� ��There is a need to promote a better understanding
of the ecological systems and natural resources in the
City of Fridley��. She deleted the word "operating".
Mr. Bergman and Mr. Zangenfeld indicated their
interpretations of that Finding.
Chairperson Harris next discussed the section on the
POI,ICY & RECOMMENDATION.
Mr. I,angenfeld said that the Environmental Quality
Commission had suggested the deletion of the entire
first page of that section.
Mr. Bergman said that the Community Development Commission
indicated that the funding criteria in the Policy &
Recommendations section should be rewritten for clarity.
Ms. Schnabel asked if that type of information was
necessary to be ineluded to get certain type of grants�
Chairperson Harris felt the time to give that type
of information would be at the time of application and
not at the time of planning. He said that the ground rules
should be set first before getting tied down to certain
percentages.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - OCTOBER 19� 1977 Pa�e 15 4 00
MOTION by Mr. Bergman� seconded by Ms. Shea� that Page 20
in the POZICY & RECOMMENDATION section be carried over
to the next meeting for review with staff, Upon a noice
vote� all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Harris read Objective 1 of Section 5,
Policy & Recommendation:
Develop an order of quality park facilities
that will be £lexible to the changing needs
of the community.
Policy 2 was discussed. Ms. Schnabel said that there
was a need for a certain ampunt of landscaping in order
to provide buffers between active and passive areas or
between tuvo types of different active areas. She said
that there were times where some type of landscaping
would have to be done in order to delineate the
different areas in order to provide a safety screen.
She didn�t think that the plans were to take the
money and invest it all in trees. She said that there
would be an overall plan to use landscaping as an
integral part of buffers.
Ms. Shea said that it had been previously stated that
landscaping would be used as a form of buffering and
in the total layout.
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld� seconded by Mr. Bergman�
to continue the PARKS AND OPIN SPACE PLAN. IIpon a voice
vote� all voting a,ye� the motion carried unanimously.
Ms. Shea wanted it noted in the minutes that the Parks
and Recreation Commission was not represented at the
October 19� 1977 Planning Commission meeting, She said
that ihe Vice-Chairperson had not been notified. She
said that in the future all Commission Chairpersons
should notify the vice-chairpersons if they have the
opportunity.
Mr. Langenfeld said that he did not intend to "poke" at
fellow commission members but he said that there seemed
to be a continual problem in that Commission as to not
being represented at the Planning Commission meetings.
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Mr. Langenfeld pointed out that there would be a
"People's Job in the Environment�� held on Saturday�
November 5, 1977, from 9:00 A,M until 1�;00 P.M.
at the St. Paul Vocational/Technical Institute
located at 235 Marshall in St. Paul. He indicated the
different topics that would be discussed and the people
that would be speaking at the seminar. He also indicated
the prices of the seminar.
ADJOURNMENT -
MOTION by Ms. Shea� seconded by Mr. Langenfeld� to adjourn
the October 19, 19'77, Planning Commission meeting. Upon
a voice vote� a11 voting aye� the motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Fiarris declared the meeting adjourned at
10:30 P.M�
Respectfully submitted,
�la�o� t��
MaryLee Carhill
Recording 5ecretary