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PL 03/08/1978 - 6628City of Fridley AGENDA PLANNING COMMiSSION MEETING MARCH 8, 1978 CALL TO ORDER: ROLL CALL: APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: fEBRUARY 8, 1978 1. CONTINUED FROM JANUARY 25, 1978 MEETIPlG: PUBLIC HI 7:30 P.M. CASHWAY LUMBEK: Per Fridley City Code, Section 205.101, 3, N,'— to low the development of a 5,000 square foot garden center in tiieir parkin9 lot, on Lot 9, Auditor's Subdivision No. 94, the same being 5351 Central Avenue N.E. Public Hearing open 2. VACATION REQUEST, SAV #78-01, SY JOSEPH SINIGALIO: Vacate 48th Avenue N.E. Adjacent to and South of Lot 16, Block 1, Plymouth Addition, and adjacent to and North of Lot 30, Block 8, Plyr�outh Addition, East of 3rd Street N.E. and West of University Avenue N.E. 3. OF FRIDLEY NOTTCE OF FINDING OF NO S 4. RECEIVE LETTER TO RICHARD HARRIS FROM RESERVE SUPPLY COP4PANY 5. RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES: JANUARY 30, 1978 6. RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES COt4�4ISSI0N MINUTES: FEBRUARY 2, 1978 7: RECEIVE APPEALS COr+iMISSION MINUTES: FEBRUARY 14, 1978 8. RECEIVE COtMiUNITY DEUELOPMENT COMMISSION PIINUTES: FEBRUARY 9. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSI�N MINUTES: FEBRUARY , 1978 10. RECEIVE APIENDED PARK & OPEN SPACE PLAN (TENTATIVE} 11. OTHER BUSINESS: UAS� °��v�� 7�� S�a � L9�0 ADJOURNMENT: PAGES 1 - 15 16 - 41 42 - 43 44 - 84 85 86-94 95 -102 103 -122 123 -128 129 -135 S��RR� ��_ � :� CITY OF FRI4LEY PL�NNING COMMISSION MrETING � FEBRUARY 8. 1��8 CALL TO ORDrR: Chairperson Harris called the February 8, 1978, Planning Commission meeting to order at �;43 P.M, ROLL CALL: Members Present Members Absent Others Present; Shea, Sergman, Harris, Peterson, Schnabel Langenfeld None Jerrold Boardman, City Planner APPROVE PLAND]ING COMMISSION MINUTFS; JANU&RY 25, 1978 MOTION by Mr. LangenSeld, seconded by Ms, Shea, to approve the January 25, �978, Planning Commission minutes, Ms, Schnabel commented that the Request for a Special Use Permit SP#'78-01, by Menard Cashivay Lumber had been continued, She asked vahen that item vrould be hanciled. Chairperson Harris said that on February 15, �978, there wouJ_d be a meeting at City Hall regarding this item, he said that all the people on the original mailing list as well as all the people thai; used the si�n-in sheet erould be notified. Mr. Baardman indicated that it would be included on the agenda after the special meeting was held, UPQN A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimous�.y. 1, PUBLIC HEARING: RE4;U�'S'� P'Ux A ar�;c;1At, u,�a r �rc.�.� SP r78-02 BY HART CUSTOr1 H0�1BS INC.: PER FF,ZDLEY CI,°Y COD� SECTION 205.102, 3, N TO ALLOI"7 THE EXPANSIOi` Or THE SALE OF MOBILE HOMES TO inCLUDE LOTS 4�5� & 6, BLOCK 1, CENTRAL OIL1V t:ANOR; THE SAME BEING 7355 �I�H,"Jt1Y 1#65 Nr. MOTION by Ms, Schnabel, secanded by Mr, I,angen�eld, to open the Public Hearing, Upon a voice vote, all votir_g aye, Chairman Har�is declared the Public Hearinq open at 7:47 P.M. Mr. Boardman explained that the purpose of the Special Use Permii request �vas to enable the expandinj of the existing trailor facility, He said what was proposed wa� a display area for double-wides. Mr. Alvan Schrader af %355 Iiighwa,y r�65, rridley �•.�as present at the meeting. He tivss representing 'rIart Custom Homes, Irc. He owns the Company, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - FEBRUARY 8, 1978 Pa�e 2 Mr. Schrader showed the commission the proposed plan for the Display area of the park, He also had an overlay of the existing operations to better indicate how it would all fit together. Mr, Schrader explained that the existz.ng facility lvas t�� feet wide by 510 feet long. He said the facility had been in operation since t9�6. Ae showed how the property was situated in relation to- 73� Avenue, Mr, Schrader said that the Company tivas getting into the area of selling double-tivides and modular homes. He said that it was almost impossible to be able to display the double-wides and modular homes on the existing lot, He felt it tvas necessary to display the nerr models in an environmental type display. He said the proposed area vrould be set up in a residential-type situation. Mr, Schrader said that what rvas being proposed was putting six units in on a semi-permanent display (probably turn-oeer once every six months). He said that the six units would be 2!� x 65 feet at the largest and 2y x 40 feet at the smallest, Fie said they planned to put a court-yard type display tivith a sidewalk, shrubs, and grass into the proposed area. Ae said that by doing so, it would make it easier to move the units and also not disturb the court-yard, so that the court-yard would actually be a permanent item, He said they were trying to accomplish an environmental display of how a model vrould look in a residential situation and felt that could be done by using berming on the 73rd Avenue side and utilizing trees, shrubs, etc. Mr, Schrader said that some of the ner�r models would conform to the Uniform Building Code. Ae said these models ��rould be ordered from the factory and tvould be elevated anto basements and would result in a regular stationary house, He said that these models would meet all the necessary codes. Mr. Schrader said that also by expanding their faciZity, they would be able to 6etter meet the City Code of ten feet spacing betereen the display models. He said that the single wide inventory ti�rould be maintained basically in the existing area and the double-ivides and modular models would be displayed in the proposed area. He said that the court-yard paved street would be named "Boulevard of Dreams". Mr, Schrader said that Lots 1�, 5& 6 were each 60 feet wide and 200 feet in depth. He also explained the anticipated traffic flow into his Operations. PLANNTNG CONQ�4ISSION MI:T3`PING - I'EBRUARY 8, 19�8 Pa�e Ms. Schnabel questioned the o�vnership of several adjacent lots. P4r. 5chrader explained that one of the adjacent lots u�as otvned by the City and one tvas crrned by the County. Mr. Eioardman explained that the only lot the City had was the lot that a pump house was located on. Ms� Schnabel asked if any screenin� would be required, Mr. Boardman said that the only screening that ti�ould be required would be around the base of the trailors by means of decorative blocks and such, Iie said that berming would also be required that Mr, Schrader_had agreed to. Mr. Schrader commented that the displays would only be changed at a minimum of every siy months and the maximum of once per year. Mr. Peterson indicated that there didn't appear to be any neighborhood objections, Mr. Boardman indicated that a variance would be reoFuested regarding the curbing, He said that due to the moving of the units, ihat curbing �eould pose many problems� It tiaas explained on trie plans exactly v�here curbing i^aould be desired and v�here it would not be desired� Mr. Langenfeld asked if tir. 5chrader agreed to all the sti�ulations, Mr. Schrader said tliat he had agreed on all the necessary stipulations that had been indicated. Mr. Bergman asked if Mr. Schrader rras in agreement ivith the proposed landscaping plan, Mr. Schrader said that he �vas in agreement tvith the landscaping plan as �•ras indicated on the plans the Com�ission had before them. Mr. Bergman indicated that he �vas not a.�are of any complaints resulting from any activity that had been in operation since Hart Custom Homes, Inc, rrent into {:hat location, Mr. Schrader explained further about his operation, He said it ivould be an environmental display, He said that the uouble- wide HUD built home was selling for between �20,000 and �30,000 and the rnodular home components were also selling for beti�reen $20,000 and $30,000, He said that Aart Custom Homes, Inc, w�uld do the complete construction that would include the basement, sevaer, rrater, etc. and the cost would be approximaterly SE45,000, He also pointed out that there vrould be long-term financing available, He said all the models would be HUD built under the ne�; Federal standards or built to the Ilniform i�uildin,r^, Ca��le, � PLANNING COMMISSION M��TTNG - rE�RUARY 8, 19Z8 Pa�e � Ms. �chnabel asked if Mr. Scrrader viould be putting up an advertisin� sign on 73� Avenues Mr. Schrader said that the only nevr signage vaould be signs located in front of 2ach model that 1�rould indicate the type of model, the square footage, and possibly the price, Ke said that the signs would be under three square feet, He said that they r�rould also install a street sign indicating "Boulevard of-Dreams", but that there would not be any additional advertising signs needed at that time, MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by P4r. Peterson, to close the Pub].ic Hearing, Upon a voice vote, al� votin� aye� Chairman Harris deciared the'PUblic Hearing closed at 8:11 P.M. MOTIOPd by Mr, Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Peterson� that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the request for a Special Use Permit SP #78-02, by Hart Custom Homes, Inc.: Per Fridley City Code Section 205.102, 3, N to a11o�Ra the expansion of the sale of mobile homes to include Lots 4,5 & 6� Block 1, Central Vie�v Manor; the same being 7355 Highti�ray r�65 N�, l'rith the stipulations that the base of the mobile homes on display be properly screened, that curbing be provided as indicated on the proposed plans, and that berming be done along 73z Avenue. Upon a voice vote� a11 voting aye� the motion carried unanimously, 2, MOTION by T•4r� Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. 5chnabel, that the Planning Cor�mission receive the January 17, 1978, Environmental �;uality Commission minutes. Mr. Langenfeld said that the second sentence of the second paragraph on Page 10 of the minute� should read, "It was done by computer and the people ��ere supplied vtith books, materials� etc„ and it erent up to 25 eo le.�+ Mr. Langenfelct said that the Noise Ordznance was discussed, He indicated that the Com�ission had melloered some�Jhat segarding the Noise Ordinance due to a statement made by Mr. Steve 01son, Euvi.ronmental Of£icer. "ttr. 0].son had Zooked at the Noise Ordinance draft and, in a conversation i�Jith Mr, A1 Perez, State �,P,A,� had come to the conclusion that there seemed not to be a great noise problem in Frzd].ey and 3t might be best for the City to design ar. ordinance in �vhich it simply adopted State Standards for noise pollution control and detailed enforcemeni,�� _�,,,,. PAR7IAL P1IN�TFS: R[CEIVG AT Pf_ANPIING COP4�IISSIQN �4EETING 3/8/73 HUMAN ktESUURCES COi�Ii�LISSTON PEETII�G MARCi� 2, 1978 MEMBERS PRESENT: Barbara Shea, Ned Storla, Harold Belgum, Maty Jo Do6son kIEMBERS ABSENT: David Thiele OTHERS PRESENT: Pete Pleming, Administrative AssistanC Betty Christlieb, Housing Specialist � R. John Singh, Ph.D., Augsburg College Larry Dobson, Tenant/Landlord Project Coum�ittee Chairperson CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Shea cal).ed the meeting to order aC 7:40 p.m. Ms. Shea stated she and the Commission would like to congratulate Mr. David Thiele on the birth of a baby daughter. APPROVAL OF FEE. 2 1978, HUNiH'N RES�URCES CON,PSISSION MINUTES: MOTION by Mary Jo Dobson, seconded by Ned Storla, to approve the Feb. 2, 1975, Human Resources Commission minutes Us written, iTpon a voice vote, a1.1 voting aye, the metion carried unanimously. RE(�UEST FOR FUNDING FOR A MEDICAL ETHICS PROGRttM• R. Johr. Sin�h Ph.D.• Dr. Singh stated that he taught philosophy and history at Augsburg College: He was also associated with North Central Bible College. He stated that he had contaeted Ms. Shea through tlie City Manager regarding the medical ethics program. He stated he had taught the medical ethics course at Augsburg £ive times. He also had just concluded a five-week, two-hour lecture series on medical ethics at Redeemer Lutheran Church in Fridley. He felt this was not only a timely subject, but a very interestin� subject to many people; an3 people should become more involved than they were in these areas of problems affecting the health rights oE patients, Since he had been in the pastorate in South America, he had a'natural outlook on coam�unity affairs. He had worked with seven churches in a district which involved Che clinics, schools, and churches. He felt the subject of inedical ethics might just as well be done on a community level in Pridley. Ar, Singh stated it was a matter of funding, because speakers had to be paid, Ae stated he had spent an enormous amount of time preparing the proposal to the Minnesota Humanities Commission of which the Co�nission mem6ers had a copy. He stated the proposal had not been approved by the Minnesota Humanitiec Commission, but that commission felt it needed revising. ,�,.-.. PI�ANNING COMT�I5SION MPPTING - FE�RUARY 8, 1978 Pa�e 12 Mr. Peterson su�gested that Recommendation 1 at the bottom of Page 28 be rewritten to: 1. Conservation of natural resources shoul� be one of the primary thrusts of the Parks and Recreation Open Space System. The other members of the Planning Commission t�ere in agreement ��ith A1r. Peterson's suggestion, . Tt ��ras decided by the Planning Commission that Recommendation 2 at the bottom of Page 28 be completely eliminated, It 1•tas decided by the Planning at the top of Page 29 iaould be entitled ��Critical Areas��, Commission that Recommendation 3 inserted in the nevr section The members of the Planning Cor�mission asked that P4r. Boardman have Recommendation 4 rermitten. They felt that the statement ti��as necessary, but didr.�t like the �*ray it �aas l;rorded, Tt ivas decided by the Planning Commission that Recommendations 5, 7 and £3 be eliminated. Mr, Langenfeld suggested that Recommendation 6 on Page 29 of the Parks and Open Space Plan be rei�rritten to: 6. Natural history areas should be maintained for paesive activities inclucling nature hikes and tours a.dminis�ered by the City Naturalist. The other members of the Planning Commission i�rere in zoreement �aith Mr. Langenfeld's suggestion. It sras decided by the Planning Commission that Recommendation 9 on Page 29 be inserted in the neu section entitled '�Critical I�reas". It was decided by the Planning Commission that P.ecommendation 10 �vas redundant to Recommendation 6 and ,�hould be eliminated, P�is. Schnabel indicated that Objective 6�aas to be added, She said it ia�as entitled, ��Maintairi and/or �stablish Professional Staff". She said that it had been decided previously that items that dealt mainly v�ith Staff v:ould be put in a separate section. Ms. Schnabel said that t��ro items that appeared on Page 18 of the Parks and Open Space Plan ti�rere to be includeci in the separate section. . Permanent parks and recreat�ion staff reauirements need to be eval.uated� � , There is a need for parlcs and recreation r,epartment policy �uic:eline�� PLAPJNING CONhtI�SiOPrT MPPTING - FI'I3RUARY F3 � 19�8 Pa�a 11 It rras decided by the Plannin� Commission that Recommendations 6& 7 on Page 2B of the Parks and Open Space Plan lvere acceptable as ti��ritten. Mr. �,oardman suggested a re�rriting of Recor�mendation 8 on Page 28, He said that the main intensive use recreational area being looked at cras Commons Park and he said they were running out of room at Commons Park. IIe said that Commons Park vaas initially set aside as a neighborhood facility to serve the nei�hborllood around the park. He said that Fri.dley didn�t have the City-�,ride recreation spaces eo Cor�mons park �vas taken over because it :�ras centrally located, He said that a serious look had to be taken at the city-vride recreation activities as to 1�rhere they can be placed. He said that much more room t�ras needed for that type of recreation, He said that other nei�hborhood parks l�rere being utilized for city-�aide recreational activitie�. He said �ahat should really be looked at i^ras the feasibility of obtaining more land or redeveloping the land available for high intensive recreation a�tivity areas, The Planning Commission agreed rrith Nr, Boardman's suggestion. It wras decided by the Planning Commission that Policies under Objective 5 on Page 28 of the Parks and Open Space P1an shouid be rer�ritten tos 1. Promote regional� county, city areas of park and open space interest. 2. Promote pre�ervation of remaining signa.ficant natural habitats. 3. Acceptable as evritten. 4. P�r. Peterson said that the statement did not belong in the particular area. He suggested handling tne iteM in a separate area, Ms. Schnabel suggested an entire neva section entitled "Critical Areas", Mr. Boardman said that he rvould set-up a nevr section to be included in the Parks and Open Space Plan and include all the items relating to a Critical Area in the City of Fridley, The Planning Commission @iscussed Recommendation 1 at the bottom of Page 28. Mr. Peterson sazd he interpreted the statement to read that it eras important that conservation of natural resources Ue one of the primary thrusts of the Parks and Open Space System and conservation vrithin urban areas reauires mana�emenL anci interpx•�tation, � PLA?dNIr1G COMMISSION MrrTING - FL'PRUt1RY 8 1 8 Pa e 10 Mr. Boardman su�gested that Recommendation ��2 at the top of Page 2� be rerrritten, "2. Desi�n nei�hborhood park facilitles in Cooperation caith residents so as to more closely meet neighborhood recreation needs,t� The members of the Plannin� Commission uere in agreement. It was decidecl by the Planning Commission that Recommendation 2 at--the bottom of Pa�e 27 of the Parks and Open Space Plan v�as acceptable as �vritten, It vras decided by the Planning C�mmission that Staff should rewrite Recommendations 3& 4 at the bottom of Page 2�. It ivas suggested that the trro recommendations be combined into one recommendation. Mr. Bergman suggested the wording to be, "Establish a program evaluaticn process, by vihich staff and program personnel define �rogram strengths and ereaknesses on a continuing basis considering the natural and man-made resources available." Mr, Boardrsan said that he urould do some 1^✓ork on the recommendation. It rras decided by the Planning Commission that Recommendation 5 at the top of Page 28 of the Parks and Open Space Plan i°ras acceptable as ti�ritten. Recommendation 6 on Page 28 raas discussed by the Planning Commission. Ms, Schnabel wanted to knovey�hy the City should grovide a Program for the School System, She ivanted to knovr if the schools had an instructor on their staff that ivas a Natural History person that could develop a program. Mr. Peterson said that the precedent vras such that that ivas tisrhat ��as happening in the cities, The City titas developing programs describing the ecolo�y of natural history areas in the City. He explained thai actually the school systems v�ould have no jurisdiction to go onto the City property to develop the nature trails� etc., rrhich the City does and allot•as everybody to use them, Ms. 5chnabet agreed that someone should develop the Programs, but felt that it ��ras more in the field of Lducation than it �aas in the field of City Administration. Mr. Boardman said that ihe Program that lvould be developed by the City tvould be used by the schools as �aell as tlie residents of I'ridley, He said there �ras no sense setting up a pro�ram that could just be used by the residents and e�:clude the schools from the program or vice-ver7a, fie sziu that if the City of Pridley r�as to have a ivcaturalist and �aould develop a Naturalist Program, then it might as �vell be opened up to the schools too, PLAtdNINC C,Oi�ft*tISSION Mr.F.TING - I'F;BRI1�1Ry 8 1978 Pa�;e 9 UPOrI A VOICP VOTr, all votin� �ye, the motion carried unanimoualy, The January 24� 197�3 Appeals Commis�ion Minutes r�ere received at 9:ob P,id, MOTION by P�Is, 5chnabel, secofided by Mr. Langenfeld, that City Council revieiv the Iist of any existing, tax-forfeited, 40 foot lots that have not been sold through public auction and that City place a hold on the sale of those properties, Upon a voice vote� a].1 voiing aye� the motion carried unanimously, Chairperson Harris declared a break at 9;11� P,M, �F. CONTIPIUED: PARKS & OP�N SPAC� P7�AK Mr. Boardman indicated tA.at once the Planning Commission completed discussing the Parks & Open Space P1an, Staff i+JOUld. do a re-��rrite of the Plan, clarifying ite�s tha.t needed it and solving any problems thut came up regarding the Plan. He said that at �hat point in time the Parks and Open Space Plan t�:ould be brought back to the Commis;�ions to �et their approval, and then a Public Hearing rrould be held on the P1an. Chairperson Harris felt that at the time the Plan came before the Planning Commissian crould be the poir.t in time that P4r. Charles Boudreau should be asked for his opinion of the P1an. Mr, Boardman said that he would arrange _for Mr, Boudreau to appear before the Planning Commission at the same time as the Parks & Open Space P7an tirould be hanaled by the Commission. Mr, Boardr�an said that the process of the Parlis & 0pen Space Plan afier the re-varite tvould "be to send a copy to the Chamber of Commerce, other Civic organizations, and all the Commissions for their second revietiv on the Plan so that any additional comments/correctio ns could be made before the Pubzic Hearing, Mr, Bergman couldn't understand vahy the Plan v.rould have to be sent to all the Comr�issions for tl�eir second revieti+r. iie felt that the process woul@ be a bit bulky, Mr. Boardman said �hat the r�-i�rrite ti�rould be sent to the other Commissions mainly for informational purpcse,�� He said that they vould not liave to act on the Plan. It vras c3ecided by the Planning Commzssion that Recommendatior. 1 at the bottom of Page 27 of the Parks and Open Space Plan rvas acceptable as written. Mr. Peterson said that Recommendation ;`�2 at the top of Page ?_� i:�� not acc�ptable. IIe s�id that he completely c�reed tvith �ettin� neighborhood feedback and to make the parks as close].,y akin to ��rhat the nei�hborhoods ti��ant; but he said there ivas «lso the overall City Program and sometimes the only people aware of thlt Progrnm are the Commission �nd the Director. �, PLANNING CQMMISSTON M�L'TING - FEBRUARY 8. 1��8 Pap�e 8 Ms. Schnabel �aid that she felt that the Commission had actually been dealin� evith tiao separate requests; the first vtas v�hether building should be permitted on a sub- standard 1ot, and the other �vas whether any variances �vould be �ranted. Ghairperson Iiarris said that there was a general policy that the City of Fridley did not issue building permits on 40 foot lots. Mr. Boardman said that the City Code indicated that the building site had to contain 7,500 square feet and be 50 feet �ride on lo+s p2atted before �955. He said that anything platted after 1955 had to contain '],500 squre feet and be 60 feet tride. HYDE PARK Ms. Schnabel said that there rvere many y0 foot lots in the Ayde Park area that had single family homes on the lots. If some disaster occurs and the or�ner of the dti�relling loses over 50% of the house� she vranted to knora if they could rebuild on that particular lot. She said it eras a hypothetical question baUed on the fact that the area v�as rezoned back to R-1, Chairperson Harris said that the Hyde Park area WOU�d have to be a Special Zoning district that r�ould allo�� commercial and R-1 mixed that existed there, He said that tvhen the Guidelines tieere written up? the lot sizes could be handled at that time. Mr. Boardman said that three meeiings had been held tvith the Hyde Park neighborhood committee, He said that the types of regulations wanted for the area had been decided upon. He said they �vanted single family zoned district, but vrould allow the rebuilding of any existing sLructures, such as muliiple-dl��ellings, etc. should those buildings be over 50°6 destroyed, He said that they desired the ninimum lot size of 60 feet� The neighoorhood committee felt ii; 1��ould be to the benefit to the neighborhood to get rid of the 40 foot lots and require b0 foot lots, Atr. IIoardman said that the general feeling of the people in the Fiyde Park area rras that they didn't r�ant to put a burdeii on anyone that already lived in the area, they didn�t r�ant the spread of multiple-dv�elliugs into the area, they didn't nant the spread of commercial into the area, they e�ant tp lseep the single-family character and they feel that a required 60 foot lot rJas a good size lot for the character of the area, PT�AT1PdI;dG COiTMISSIO�V MFi;TItdG - Ft3BRU�RY 8, l q78 Ya�e 7 Ms, Schnabel said that Communities sei their ovan standards. She said that the City of Frid2ey chose the standard lot size as �5 foot. She referenced Page i0, third paragraph, Chairperson :iarris said that another problem that the City of Pridley �vould be faced evith evas the fact that plats had been accep+.ed Nrith 40 foot lots, Pis. Schnabel said at the time Fridley became a City and started to be developed that the people in Government a� that time determined that they did not erant 25 foot or 40 foot Zots' they �ranted a minimum of `75 foot 1ots, She said that it was a suburban area and that ti•�as how they tivanted it developed, Mr. Bergman �vanted to knor✓ if that decision could have been arbitrary and capricious. FIe felt fairly certain it ivasn't capricious. He ielt it vsas onlv arbitrary in the same context as every city�s ordinances are arbitrary. FIe said that even though it may have been an arbitrary decision, it tvas v,ritten into the larr, He sazd it i�aould be that reason that a. person �rould not be able to build on a 40 foot lot, Ms, Schnabe.l sai� that in 1911� Z�hen the pJ.at was accep�ed hy Anoka County� a different set of facts rtere being dealt tirith. She said that tYze facts e�ere dealing vrith a community tha� l•ras only a sma11 percent developed versus the fact that nov.= the City of I'ridley caas 90�.+ developed, Mr. Peterson said that it �:�as a dynamic fact of lacr, that lar� changes. tie said that even thou�h the County accepted the plat in ]911, the lava has changed and the person that purchased the lots had been informed of the changes in the lar�s. Chairperson fIarris said that perhaps those 1�o foot lots, if they tivere not a viable piece of property for c�evelopment, should not have been sold. He said they should have been held for open space, pubi�.c land, or vahatever. Ms. Schnabel felt the Git� made a mistake ever putting those t�0 foot lots up for sale. FSr. l3er�man felt �hat whether the 2ot rras buildable or unbuildaUle or r�hether P�ir. Hedlund had been informed that it u�as unbuildable rrere actually immaterial to the actual issue. fIe said that there �•rere City Ordinances that stated the required setbacks on lots and the minimum square foota�e renuired on lots. 3Ie said that a citizen of P'ridley could try to obtain variances from the City Codes and if th��e variances raere granted, then the pers�n could build on any lot regardless of the size. Fie said that the fact ��as that the person did not alvrays get the variances that were requested. PLANNING COMMISSION M�PTING - FEBRUARY 8, 1978 Pa�e 6 Chairpersan Harris asked ivhat Mr. Hedlund�s next step mighi be. Ms. Schnabel said ihat ;�r. Hedlund had indicated that he vaould take the matter to Court if the requests weren't approved. Mr. Boardman said that the exhibits that accompanied the requests vrere very complete for the main purpose that it.could end up as a Court case. Ms. Schnabel said that the Appeals Commission had excellent Staff input regarding the requests� She said that Ron Holden� the Staff person, had been most supportive on the matter. 40 r00T LOTS Ms. Schnabel said that vahen City Council decided to turn-over the many lots to the County, their intention had been that the tax-forfeited lots l��ould make nice additions to the existing land oeaners on either side of the 40 foot lot or the ad.jacent land otivner in the case of a corner lot. City Council had indicated that the lots tivere unbuildable lots. She said that when the County advertised the lots in the paper the County put a notice at the top that said, �'Check with your local City ior building restrictions on the lots,�� Ms, Schnabel said that Mr, Hedlund claimed that he called the City of Fridley and had been told that there �+iould be some problems vrith the lots. He claimed that he vaas never told specifically that the lots were unbuildable, She said that he also claimed that the County did not announce that the lots v�ere unbuildable at the time of the auction, Ms. Schnabel said that there 4vere some discrepancies in Mr, Hedlund's statements, She felt that Mr, Hedlund eJas trying to build a case through the minutes that he had not been told in advance that the lots were unbuildable, Ms, Schnabel said that the minutes of the previous �eeting that tvas held on December 13, tg��, he had been specifically asked if he �vas avrare that the lots were unbuildable and he had stated in those minutes that he �vas avrare of that fact at the time he bid on the 2ots, Ms. Schnabel said that Mr. Hedlund eras again specifically a�ked at the oanuary 24, �97a, �ppeals Commission minutes if he tivas a�✓are that the lots were unbuildable lots� and Mr, IIedlund again stated that he tivas a�vare that the lots eaere unbuildable. Chairperson Iiarris asked how the City of Fridley could justify not allotiving construction on 40 foot lots rrhen Minneapolis, St. Paul, North St, Paul, Columbia Heights, and Robbinsdale did allot�t building on 40 foot lots, PT l�^f^iT11G CO;�'C�IISSIOPT� P4l?rTIPIG - FL'BRU�RY 8, 197& � Pa�;e 5 Mr, Ber�man referred to the item discussed on Page 8 of the minutes, Recycling Project Cornmittee keport. He explained the workin�s of a Recvcling Collection Center in St. Anthony, He said that it rrouZd be r�orthi�rhile £or someone fram the Environmental �,?uality Commission to do an observation on that Center. tdr. LangenYeld said that the su�gestion tivould be passed along to the Comr�ission. Chairperson Harri� quoted the statement that necessity i^�as the mother of invention� and he felt that eventually bhe people tfould discover ti°�ays of turning trash/�arba.�e into ener�y producers. He pointed out that there l�ras presently a city in Iovaa that �vas using trash for energy by recycling the trash. FIe said that at that point in time the do22ar costs were breaking even. He said that they v�ere burning the trash/garbage for energy, recovsring the aluminum and steel from the cans� recovering the bottles, etc„ and the operation of the plant �vas breaking even, or not coUtin� anything. He felt that that i•�ay made more sense than dumping the trash/garbage into the ground from where it eaould eventually pollute the ground �vater systems and such. Mr. Bergman gave his concurrence and suppori to tvhatever the Environmental �uality Commission vras doing in the area of recycling, tTPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VQTING AYF, the motion carried unanimousl;a. The minutes v�ere received at 8:32 P.M, 3. RrC�IVE APPEALS COI�IISSION N1Tt�riT1ES: JATdUARY 21�, 1978 MOTION by g4s, Schnabel� seconded by Ms. Shea� ihat the Planning Commission receive the Appeals Commission minutes of January 24a 1g78. ris. Shea commended Ms. Schnabel on the cliplomacy she demonsirated at a most difficuli meeting. Chairperson i�arris asked if the City Council had acted upon the issue of 40 foot lots. Ms, Schnabel said that it ��rould appear before City Council February 27, 7973. Ms, Schnabel said that one of her major concerns regarding the request by Mr. Gordon Hedlund �vas that as soon as it ivas approved to build on the 40 foot lots, the value of the Iots wauld go immediately from $$F300 to appraximately $5,600 or $$6,000, She said that the buyer ivould get no "breakT� because of the lot size and Mr. Hedlund ��rould r�ceive the entire profit, She said that thc estimated, buildable value of the land cra� erhat made tke price of the house so high. PI,l1PITJII�IG COP919IS ;IO[d ML,FT7.A1G - I'?:F3Rt3ARX 8, 1')78 Pa�e 1 j P4r. �oardman said that Staff ��ould revJrite the goals and objectives to inc).ude an Objective 6 that vtould deal mainly raith utaff, Mr. Langenfeld said that the Environmental (�uality Commission had su��ested a Recommendation it under Objective 5: 11, Pertilizers and other r.e]_ated material levels r�ould be limited in the City watererays, P4r. Board.man suggested that the item be re5�rorded to, "Encourage the reduction of pollutar�ts in the streams and rivers lvhich are utilized for recreatiottal activities", He then said that the item tvould be included in the "Critical Areas" section oi the Parks and Open Space P1an. Air, Boardman e�;plained the rest of the sections of the Parks and Open Space Plan. He said they 1•rould be a color codecl map of the proposed park systeM. T�1r, Boardman explained thati the Parks and Open Space Pl.an c.ould b�a x2-:�;ritten and then returned to the Commission for approval, He said that they had much direction fror� the Commission as to i�fhat exactly :�ras ti��anted, He felt that the Plan ��rould be ready for approval after the re-�ariting. OY'HPR BUSIP�rSS Chairperson Harris said tiiat at the City Council l'Jorkshop meeting held on January 30, 1975. the Housing Maintenance Code l�las revierred, �Ie said that for the Most part, City Council. agree3. t•tiih the Gode. PZayor Nee had indicated that tne Housing PSaintenance Code rvas clear enough thai even he could understand it th�s time. Ener�y Commission � Chairperson Harris said that the Planning Commission avould discuss the Energy Commission such as setting up the policJ. Mr, Aarris wanted to knor�t�ha� the Pla_nning Commission l��znted to do ivith the item, Mr. Boardman said that the main thing that was brcught out at the City Council meeting ti��as that they �vanted to develop an Pnergy CoMmission �aith the scope of �ner�y, tie said that it �•;�:s decideci tha�; the term "energy" tivas sa broad tl,,at guide- lines ��rere needed, City Council said that the Planning Commission Svas to �et up the guidelines and the policy and either set up a Commission i;o handle the Uubject or else set up a project committee. � P7,AN1`IING CQP4NiISSION MEETING - FF;i3RTJ�IRY 8, 19']8 pa�'e 11t Mr. Langenfeld suggested that each chairpercon of the Planni.ng Commission elect one person from their respective commissions to be a member of the Project Committee, Mr. Peterson said that he liked the idea of the separate Project Committee under the T'lanning Commission, IIe sa.i.d the only problem vaould be that ihe Project Committee tivould have to have adequa.te staff to support the Committee, Chairperson established to the City of having a Committee. Harris said that if a Project Committee wae to be under the Planning Commission that they tivould go Council to get their approval for the expenditures Staff person to support the efforts of the Project Mr. I3ergman said that the first tking the City should do before set�ing up a Committee Evouzd be to establish Ener�y Conservation Guidelines and Prograrns for the City itself and to fol7.oiv through with the guide].ines and recommendations. I�e fe7.i; that the City �hould do more than just set up a Commzttee, He said the City should "set an example" actively and vaith some publication, Mr. Bergman said that gcvernments are too auick to advise everybody else on how to save energy �^rhen Lhey therc,selves are doing a lot less than what they are requesting o: private residents and businesses. Chairperson Harris said that it �vas tc be up to the Planning Commission to produce a Policy, stating the goals and exactly what the City wanted to accomplish, Chairperson Harris said that there urere many areas of the City Codes that the �nergy situation should be addressed to. Also, said that it should be recommended to City Council that the legislators be tola what direction the City o£ Fridley wanted go on the Energy issue. he tp Mr, Boardman said that if a Project Committee �vas to be set up, that the direction of that Committee would be more of looking into the problems that are presently being faced, rather than necessarily developing a policy on it. He felt that once the problems ��ere recognized the Committee could then establish the policy to handle the problems. AZr, Peterson said that the Ener�y Gommission discussion should be put on the a�enda of a future r�eeting and ir. the meantime the members of the Planning Commission could give much thou�ht to the iten. PLAPIPJING COMMISSION MPi:TSNG - FPBRUARY 8� 1 qp£3 Pa�'e 15 7,!INIHC COUT^; Chairperson iIarris said that he had attended a meetin� that evening at 5:30 P,P4, (02/0£3/78} rrith the President of the Chamber of Commerce, Dick Sobiech, and himself in attendance, Fie said that they discussed the Zonin� Code in relationship to Commercial � Industrial, He said that on February 9s �978 the Chamber of Commerce ��ou1d be diseussing the progress on the Zoning Code, iie said the Chamber of Commerce ��anted to be able to revie�v the final results of the 'Loning Code before it went for final approval. Revitalization of "Dov;ntorrn" Fridley Mr. Boardman said that at the January 30, 1978, City Council 4Yorkshop meeting Staff �ras given the go ahead to l�rorii vrith the businesses in the area and look into the potential for revitalizing the center city of Fridley. Chairperson iIarris said that the City taould act as a catalyst in promotin� an osderly revitalization, He said that tivhen a business decided to restore its facilities, City lvould coordinate the effort so that it t�rould be done according to a��master plan'�. ADJOURP�I�SBNT MOTION by Ms. Shea, seconded by Mr. Peterson, February 8, 19�8, Planning Commission meeting, vote, all voting aye, Chairinan Harris declared Commission meeting adjourned at 11:05 p,M, Respectfully submitted, riary ee Carhill Recording Secretary to adjourn the Upon a voice the Planning .,�,,, t�OTE: THIS TiFM UILL I3[ Ot1 THE PLANNING CUMMIS ��ri'r:n7c`n irr i�: --- - -- rur3trc �ir�at�u, u�ro�:r Tur hlliNNIitC COl�ffiISSIO(� TO l�lHDI'I IT 1111Y COfyCCRld: 3 �� _. �� IVotice is hereby given that there r�ill I�e a f'ublic Hearing of the Planning Gor�mission of the City of Pridley in thc City Hall at 6431 Univei,sity Avenue t7ortheast nn llednesday, Jaiwary 'L5, 1978 in ttie Council Chamber at 7:30 P.t•f. to consider the follo�•+ing mai;ter: A request for a Specia7 Use Permit, SP /E78-Ol, by Pienard Cashway Lumber, per Fridley City Code, Section 205.101, 3, fd, to alloar the development of a 5,000 square foot garden display centa�° in their parking lot on Lot 9, Auditor's Subdivision No. 44, located in the South fialf of Section 24, T-30, R-24, City of Fridley, County of Anoka, Minnesota. General1y located at 5351 Central Avenue N.E. Any and all persons desiring t� be heard shall be given an opportunity at the above stated time and place. Publisii: January 11, 197a January lti, 197fl . R3CNARD H. HARRIS CHAI R9flAN PLA�NING COF41dTSSION � , _�..... 1`Y' CI7'Y OT fRIDLEY MINNI:SUTA • PLANNING AND 2QNING POlIM . NoM¢� .� % -O / . APPLICAN'1'' S SIGNA'i1JRC ./Yl� ,e �7I� G/a,S � r� r.�.Y4 /! . ... = �<�� :�;--y Telerhone PROPERTY 014NGR'S SI Address S%/- S6 �� Telephone Number�,��,��1 � ( � 5trcet Location of Property S 3ti J ri=,�.-in,�� .tr� ,vv- Legal Descriptian of Property Present Zoning Classification ._.....�_. . = � �.7 � . , __ ; nrrc or acQucsT Rezoning �_ Special Use Permit Approval of Prcmin- inary F Final P�at ' Streets or Allcy Vacations Other �/ . Fee�Recaipt No. C�/.�� ` Acreage of Property 1�,, (� Describe briefly the proposed zoning classification or ttype of use and improvement proposed ;. .. . . �L.� ._ • i %/�' - " /L — - Has the present applicant previousIy sougiit to rezone, piat, obtain a ZoC split or variance or special use permit on the subject site or•part of it? yes�no. What was requested and iahen? ' The undersigned understands thaL: (a) a list of a21 residents and owners of property vithin i00 feet (350 feet for rezoning) must be attached to this appiication. (b) This applicatioti must Ue signed by all oirncrs of the property, or an e�planation given iehy this is not the case. (c) P.esponsiUility for any deYect in the proceedings resulting from thc failurc to list the names and aJdresscs of all residents and property oi,mers of property in question, belongs to thc undcrsigned. . A sketcii of proposed property attd structure must be dra�.�� and attached, showin� Lhe £ollowing: 1, North Direction. 2. Location of proposcd structi=re on tl�e lot. 3. Uimensions of property, proposed struct:�re, atid front �nd side setb�cks. 4. 5trect Nsmes. S. Location a�id use of adjncent existing buildings (i.�ithin 300 fccC) 7'hc undcrsi�ncd hcrcby declares tliat npplicatiwr arc ruc and correct. AATL � �.� ! tJ SIGNATURG� Datc C•iled all tlic £acts and represent�tions,stated in this Datc of Ilcaring Plannin�; Commissio�r Al�provcd � City Count:l Approvcct � ��i�� !� ,l �� .�{�"� _ (/". . � r .� c+��,�i}^ ; MAILING LIST SP #78-01 MENARD CASH4�AY LUPIBER Menard Cashway Lumber 5351 Central Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55421 Attn: Larry �4enard Charles Seeger Gil Mor Tnc. 2289 85th Avenue N.E. Sheldon Mortmnson, President Minneapolis Hn 55432 Edina Realty 6500 France Avenue South Edina, t4n 55435 Mary E. Cooney 754-113th Avenue N.E. Minneapolis, t4n 550.33 Menard Inc. Route �2 Eau Claire, WI 54701 009 - Nickels T18665-66969 4021 Vernon Avenue South Minneapolis, 91n 55416 Noward D. Johnson Co. 5247 Highway #65 N.E. Fridley, Mn 55421 Yun N. & Soon Jha Lee 12G8 5kywood Lane N.E. Fridley, Mn 55421 Mr. & Mrs. Carl Heggestad 1258 Skywood Lane N.E. Fridley, Mn 55421 Ms. Mary L. Mathews 1259 Slywood Lane N.E. Fridley, Mn 55421 DeGardner Realty, Inc, 5238 Numboldt Avenue North Minneapolis, Mn 55430 Skywood Apartments 372 St. Peter Street St. Paui, P1n 55102 •' - �£� '. � Planning Commission Januar,� 10,`1978 � . i.�.-�. �� l/ �-7, tg7� �� ' /a,� 7�' ��,! G ,_ J �,z,� J'/�i �A ��, „ �� %In7 �a !L 7' / c%'��% �1`�' � ,j ,�% � "�� J% ��l�, �?'.�r s's'� y / • _� r�-�� . �r� US�� u�, d!�'� fl y� �� ,� ,1;. Dec. 8, t977 Mr. Richard I�. Sobiech, P.E. Public t•lorks Director Fridley City Nall fridley, 1linnesota Dear Mr. 5obiech, � ' �,�4'�� •. .. .. � �I o. i�G/7� t1e are very appreciative of your notifying us that of the City Attorney to t4enard's has thus far been We are hopeful that his second letter of idovember t�r. Candell will bring forth a plan from !>1enard's negotiate. It is amazing to decide to ignore cannot imagine as callous attitude. the letter disregarded. 3rd to vre can us, as private citizens, that a ousiness can a letter from the City Ofticials whereas, we individuals we could take a similar,..almoat We have kept weekly notes on the activities tnat have talcen place at i�"�enard's and cannot imagine that they are not in violation of noise and visual pollution standards. They have stacked lumber above the level o{ the top of their fencing, and there is no evidence that the noise 7evel of their operation or paging system has changed. We appreciate the city's faithfulness in this matter, aad �ahite this must be very �vearing on your patience �t certainly is be- coming wearing on our tolerance. We will await their reply to P1r. Herrick's ]etter of t�ovember 3rd and hope you will inform us if it comes in. The longer this situation goes on the more we are certain tnat htr. "dee's sug- gestion of a density and use study be carried out in the spring. However, for the present we demand that they alter the paging system (which they tnemselves in a private mceting agreed to) and to negotiate their delivery hours. �'�� D �_-- y1 �i1{� u�'�h l �h�,w�e, 1�,.� , .��'�lj �� . .��z.� �/ �.��.:}lt.•lr��r..�,.�: ` r �, n�, ; �.�'1;...� � .l. C � . �. ��'•�; ,,�-c't�c t.:1t •t.•.:,�t.cl u�/ �?-v— re-�`"�---� �9c�mL �n�2.. �e� .-;. i.�y �t3 �� d-��.h.� �X!�.� <<"�� / ��Le^a� C � �� . � (� �1102. vwa-r-�. �l� f ..� �%✓y—f��'��'t�- .<2� � ��.:%�. ��1 '� ��` �� `"�`-`" �'�`"�� . EDWARD F3. HAGERTY JOHN T. CANUCLL CNARLES J. LINUFJER� ASA 6. 6UTTRICK r HAGERT', CANDELL AND LINOBERQ � ATTORNCYS A7 IJIW �i000 SOG L�NE EUILDiNG Mii^ltJCAr'OL�tl. M�NNESOTA :a5402 Mr, Richard �T. Sobiech Public h7orks Airector City of Fridley 6431 Univereity Avenue, N.E. Fridley, ZJN 55432 Re: Afeaard, Inc. Dsar Mr. Sobiech: January 17, 1975 ` __ 20 We are enclosing herewith a copy of our letter of November 7, 1977 di,rected to i•Ir. Virgil C. Herrick. mk �nc].osure Very truly yours, ,�� , � TC�LEPHnNC (612I 332•�53A4 �, c� �� .,` `�1� '\1 p \� _ � . lJ . l�J U U ' _ . .• . . . . _ � _� 21 November 7, 19�1 Mr, Vlrgil C. Herrick Weaver, Tally 6 Herrick Attozueys at Law 6269 Univeraity Avenue, N.E. _ Fridley� MN 55432 Re: i-[enard, Inc. Dear rir, Herrick: In response to your letter of October 4, 1977 and previoua correspondence and telephone conversations with Mr, Sobiech, pub2ic works director o£ the City of Fridley, we would like to advise you of the ateps taken by our client, IRenard, Inc., in respouse to certain complaints set forth in a petition to the City Couacil dated Pfay 2� 1977. The firat complaint raised was as followa: Fire hazard to adjoining residential property due to lack of access to wooded high hazard areas. _ At the time of our meeting with the City Counci2, a mecioraadtaa prepared by Rabert D. Aldrich. Deputy Fire Chief, wes presented. Tha memorandum indicated that his on-site inspection revealed that the property was in a reasonable conditiou consiatant with ita ase. Storage of materials was in an ozderly manner and that the lumber yard doea aot constitute a greater than normal hezard. With respect to the building, it is fully sprinkled and doas not conatitute an undue hazard. iu view of the Deputy Fire Chiat's report, Menard does not propose to take further stepa at this time with reapect to cowplaint No. 1. 1 Complaint No. 2 indicatea the illegal expanded use within C-1 sone from retail-co�nercial to distributive-industrial. Menard feela that its use of the psoperty ie groper and that it does aot conduct manufacturing or induatrial activities at the site. Tha alCa ie used for retail-coacnercial. Complaint No. 3- the 111e�a1 uoise pollution and devaluation of the property of adjacent land oc,mers' real estate. The complaint eeems to center around tw major areae: (a) the P,A. eyatem located on Lhe exterior east walls of the building could be heard iu the adjoining homea; and (b) uoise caused jry ectivitiea in tha extarior lumbez yard area between the hours of 9:00 p.m. and 8:00 a.m. - . .. . • LJ '. � � Mr. Virgil C. Herrick Page 2 � LI �� .._ . _ ��' November 7, 1977 With reapect to the P.A. system located oa the ezterior of the bullding, Menard contacted A.D.T, Systeme ia June of 19�7. On July i5, 1977, A.D.T. Systeme vlewed the site and made an eatimate of the ef£ective- ness of relocation of the loudapeakere to the perimeter fence areuud the lumber yard area and redirection of the speakers back toward the building. Finally, in September, A.D.T, moved the speakers from the building to the perimeter and redirected them back toward Afenard's £aci2ity. It is tha hope of Menard that this relocation of Che speakers will greatlp diminieh any dis3surbance to the neighbors. {�Tith respect to nighttime operations. Menard discontiuued a nighC yard crew shortly after tho initial meettng with the Fridley City Council. Menard is willing ta diacontinue sucb nighttima yard opera! tions as long as such operationa are aot required by ita dailp businese. Menard hae also repaved ite esterior yard area and redoubled its main- tenance of lifC trucks in the yard area so ae to reduce noise as much ae possible. Ia ozdeY to carry on ite busineas, rienard finds St neceseary to make drop ahipwenta from semi-trailer trucks during the nighttima. Thoae truck drivers making auch drop ahipments have been apecifically cauCioned to do so in as quiet a manner ae ppsaible. Such trucking operatioae have been held to an absolute minimum during the nighttime fiours and Menard �aill continue to bold such evening trucking to a miui- mum so long as it ia able to do ao and carry aa ite businesa. Item No. 4- the traffic hazard created by the illogical routiag from 53rd Avenue NortUeast to the aervice zoad to Fillmore Street Northeast (dangers to pedeatrians� especially childrea - cyclieta, autos aad trucks). I beliave that tra£fic hazard is beyoud the coutrol of Menard, Inc. Menard ie merely s tenant at the site and, thus, hsd no part in creating or designiag the traffic pattem. The City Engineer polnted out that some plana were being made to make certaln changes caith zespect to the traff3c patteras in the area. Menard 16 not in a posi- tioa to remedy that paCtem ptob�em at thla time. We certainly hope that the etepe mentioned above will satisfy all of the complaints raised. very cruiy youxH. HAGLATY, CAI+iDELL AND LINDBERG John T. Candell mk � � . tww ornGCS � , . � i WEAVEf2, TALLE & HERRICK . pNARLCB N. WCAVCR N[NNAe� L,T�LL[� VIp014 0. H[RqICK � RODERT.NUNN! � WIIUAM M.00OPNICM Douo�wa e. nunT Mr. John T. Candell ACtorney at Law Suite, 1008 Soo Line Building NLinneapolis, Minnesota 55402 Dear Mr. Candell: November 3, 1977 .-� �.3, __. . . �� •.' . �IB EM1ST wAIN gTRCCT ANONA,MINNESOTA 55305 �YI-6417 �2Tp UNIVCRSITY AYEMUC H.[, FHIDLEY� MiNNES07A 55432 6]1-�050 On october 4, 1977, I wrote to you regarding your client, Menard's, and the complaints that the neighbors kiad submitted to the Fridley City Council. Shortly Chereafter, we had a telephone conversation wherein you advised me that you would be submitting a written report to the City, witH copies to some of the spokesmen £or the objecting neighbors. I have been waiting for this correspondence but have not received any teply. At the last Council meeting, I advised the Council that a report would be forthc.oming. I feel very strongly that iC would be to your client's advantage to "get the show on the road", Sincerely, � ,��. % jyf ' . VCH:JJH �� Virgil C. Herrick cc: Mr. Richard N, Sobiech, P.E. Public Works Director �� r ^ ��Y�� rI �,1 pr, � � .. �v e ..�,„.,:. ., � .. . �ew ornccs WEAVER, TALLE & HERRfCK CMARlC9 R. M'CAY[P 1tCqMAN l.T4llC YtROII C. HERR1C�t qp6[RT MVNN$ w1ll1�M n. GOODRICM oouous c. nuM7 Mr. John T. Candell Attorney at Law Suite 1005 Soo Line Building Minneapolis, Minnesota 55402 Dear Mr. Candell: October 4, 1977 I am writing this lettar as Fridley City Attomey. contact you by the Fridley City Administration. <�•"� - • Cv'y} �IE EAB� MAIN 9THEET ANOKA,MINNE80TA 55303 AL1�6�19 6E)C VNIVCNSITY I,VCMUC N.E, FRIOLEY� HINNESOTA 55932 6)1-�860 I have been asked Co As you know, the City has received complaints from some of the neighbors adjacent to the 4fenard praperty. At a City Council meeting a few weeks ago, a general understanding was reached by the representatives of Menard's and the neighbors concerning certain changes that Menatd`s would make in order to minimize the complaints. At the time I think everybody coas relieved that an agreement had been reached, However, it is my understanding that Menard's h as not implemenCed the agreed upon changes. I would appreciate hearing from you, or yeur client, as to what steps will he taken in order to resolve this problem. It cerCainly is a matter thaY would be much better resolved by mutual cooperation that it would be in resorting to any type of court action. I urge you to contact your client and attempt to resolve this problem. Sittcerel�; / % '�� __ ✓L ... % VGEi:JSH Virgil C. Herrick cc: Mr. Richard N. Sobiech, P.E• Public Works Director • (i�, � �CL'(+. JtT-" J�u,� G%GCL.Q / GYi/�% 7 MEMO 70: MEMO FROM: DATE: SUBJECT: � . . :•`` .. . . � �`; '� . , . Vir9i1 Herrick. City Attorney � . ,, Richard f•1. Sobiech,� Public Works Director September 27, 1977 Menard's Operation � � y , .,_ _ � g�"` . �"l � �� Piease note the attached correspondence.and memo pertaining to the referenced matter. As you are aware, several months ago Menard's representatives and residents appeared before the City Council to discuss their operation. At that previous meeting, there was to be a resolution regarding the public nuisance com- plaints. To date, however, as indicated in the attached correspondence. Menard's seems reluctant to respond to�the public nuisance complaints. I r+ould appreciate your intervention in this matter; perhaps a call from you to F4r. Candell inight get the rlesired results. At this tirne what we vrould like is any correspondence from Menard's addressing the cor,eerns of the residents. Anything you might be able to do would be appreciated. RNS/3M Attachments: 2 t 1 �.,.. �, / . _!'/� � f r�� ~�'y / , �.__..__.5�"� � .� i � � / i % � _ . ��. w�, . �n`�"°i�' �i�= � ��'�W:�C`'a 843t UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E., Ffi1DLEY, MINNES6TA ,b543� ' T£LEPNONE (812)57i•3450 Au�ust 15, 1977 John Candell, Attorney at Law 1008 Soo Line Building Afinneapolis, hf,l 55402 Dear Air. Candell: Please be advised I have been trying to reach you regarding the complaints pertaining to Menard's opera- tion, .During the past couple o£ weeks I have not Ueen able to get in touch with you to discuss the matter. The last status report indicated a letter would be forthcoming ��rith items discussed at a meeting witli the adjacent psoperty c�ti�ners. To date I have not received the correspondence. I am req�.�esting at this time a status report regarding the Dfenard's operation progress with the adjacent pro- perty ownexs. I)iave been receiving calls fxom the pro- perty oteners wondering 1.�hat the City has received irom Menard's and I have had to say that I have received nothing. It is getting to the point that this matter may have to proceed to the City Council £or resolution of tlie matter. I would appreciate your help in this problem. Yours very truly, Richard N. Sobiecli, P.B. PuUlic iVorks Director RNS/jm cc; Dr. Heggestad 1258 NE Skywood Ln. . �. �� L'(t8�fitiUi�j L`Utt�Qlt Apri1 20� 1g77 Steven 3. Olson Ehvironment al Officer City of Fridley G431 University Ave. Y.E. Fridley� t�II� 55432 2?E: Yours 4/2�/77 � 0 . , • �`�_ �;,;,� . � 5351 Centrai Avenue N.E. Fridley, Minnesotp Zip Code 55421 Pear Steve; The piece of land which hzs hliscellzneous debris and refuse littering it is� as you yrell I�or�� not b7EN.aRD IiIC. property. I of£ered the land owner� last ye�.c�� the followino proposition: I would keep that strip of land picked up� morred and maintained short of caatering and landscapin�. � JQy answer from her was "you stay off rt�y land or I�11 have you arrested for trespassin�.'� She taent on to s�}* that she was going to let the grass grot�r because she mi�ht want the grass for hay??? I trould also like to see the land nicked up and maintained and my o£fer still siands, Perhaps you would like to act as mediator here to achieve the recult c�e both want. I can�t spezk with her as she feels I arn a '�rich Jew from Chica�o�� even though I ezplained that I rras born znd raised on a farm here in the I/�idwest and :r1Y ancestry of about three �enerations back are French C�adian. In reference to your last paragraph, are you �ivin� me authority to go on her land and do the clean up? Tf sot please advise me of this in writing. � " Sincerely i,�tiur cc/F:`�Larry) 1;enard A a;er •. dC.,VARD CASHSJAY LUlT3ER F'ridley� DLY j5421 c�c T. Willinms rilo .T� p� M1 JY'%.f:.. ;..... I / � )�J,�� °•��,•, �%� �� • ^ .L./ � hK✓•ir�.M�'. ,(�I �,`.� 4�u.w.PV/ ��. _ .-,.v,,,-„ ; s, . �: . : ��, l . r ,� f ; ��- i' 4`' Fli� ' �a rv �,( .'�� "f A : t >''i � �.,�� ♦ r�yJ� � 4 �f�V�.�I �' �t�.Y: r.R:_.i' ` ;,,., April 19, 1977 �: ., . , � ca�-v �� 1��.�� 841t UNIYERSfTY AVERU£ N.E., FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 55492 Mr. Larry Menard Menard's - Cashway Lumber 5351 Central Avenue Ii.E. Fridley, Mn. 55421 Re: Refuse Storage and Collection Dear Mr. Menard: TELEPHONE _(612)571-3450 �/-1/�1�: . . �� It was confirmed b�� a routine environmental inspection on Rpril 18, 1977. that your propert, was being maintained in violation of Chapter 113, Refuse Disposal, o? the Fridlep City Code. Said inspection found varying amounts of paper, plastic, glass, metal, and miscellaneous re=use and debris littering the drainage ditch north of yqur parking lct. : �• • Therefor.e, the City must require you to clean and maintain these areas free of all the re?use found deposited there. A reinspection will be conducted on or about ten (10) days from the date of this letter to determine compliance. T9e are confident in your cooperation and desire to make Fridley a better community to live, work, and shop in and if any guestions or probl;ns arise, please Eeel free to contact me at 571-3450. Failure to abate this violation mzy result in Yhis matter being turned over to the City Prosecutor for his legal consideration. Sincerely, � �n/ '�\ V '1 STEVB[3 3. `OLSON Environment� fficer_ , S V olmh _,,,,,, � ..i: t�'.J.'{i � �jl /" ` �, , � .. �. � �� ; . . �F.:�.__^T.:�1 � � Ci ,^cTf��1 C'n •` \ ,`� ,•,�� O, �`� `\ . �� . . `. �, '\ r-� .: � ,!.1.�, ' �� .• � \`\�. r1EN��D, I��C. 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',Pt, t , ��. 1C� �i ��<� • ;•r n•.t 5''.4�.. �.� . ... . {I : .. .. �' . � `a"� ,. s... .. - T � ,' I• f ' ,` L . . .,.,... , �,..,.,,� ��,: i � ..,r rvu �1 r�P1�CIAT I1,",''s P};R1�Tm ._..°,P . j� ' 8-01 ii'! t,' Il';I?D ( I `�'.7,ni� I,l h1BI:R: YliR FRIDLliY CiTY �� a�� CUDi:, �:,;;'PIOId rU5 , J, -� , q'p ALLO�J TIiF, D�V;.LOPML,NT -- OI' A S,OO�t�p�0'P Gt;RDI.P: CENTER IN THEIR PARKIIdG � , OT 9, pUDITOR'S SU�llIVISIpN N0, 9 1�, TH E S I�� B�ItdG 535� CL'I1TRliI. AVEP�U� NE MQTIOAI by Mr. Ber�man, seconded by Ms, Suhrbier, to Public Iiearing. Upon a voice vote, all votino aye, Harris declared the Public Hearing open at 8:44 P.M, ouen the Chairman � MOTiON by 14r, Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Ber�man, to receive the corresponclence fram Ha�erty, Candell and Lindberg attorneys at 7.avr, regarding P4endurd, Inc, and the dra�rings re�ardin� Mendard, Inc. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr, Boardman said that the Special Use Permit r�as being requested for an outdoor garden center to be located in the Menard�s parking 1ot, He said that rlenard�s rras attempting to decide if they tiranted to operate a garden center or not. He said that the garden center v�ould initially oe an experiment to see if it r�ould or would not be to �,h�ir advantage, Mr. Boardman explained the different draivings that had been received by the Commission, He said that his suggestion to Menard, Ine, rJas ta place the proposed garden center next to/ along si�e the main Mznard Cashi�ay Lurnber building, Mr. Charles Seeger representing rSenard Cashi�ay Lumber said that the Special Use Permit �vould be to enable ihem to sell tr�es, shrubs and like items since tney did carry laian and garden supplie� in their main store. He said that initially it i�aould be an experiment to determine if the garden center vrould be a profitable venture fcr r4enard, Inc, He said that the garden center riould be constructed neatly, He said they t��ould have bark chips on th.e ground 1•rith a split rzil fence completely around the center, He said they ti•�ould sell trees and shrubs, etc. and he didn�t feel anything in the center �vould detract from the Iooks of the pro ert P Y. Chairperson Harris ast�ed if the garden center lvould be next to the building, Mr. Seeger esplained on the drar�ings ��here the garden center r+ould be located. He said it r�ould be located in front of the ncrth side of the ir.ain Uuilding. He said that the gard.en center rrould be aoproximately 5,000 square feet, Chairperson ?iarris aslied if the garden center ti�ould abut the adjace;it property� rir. Seegcr snid that that the garden center �vould not touch or join or border on any adjacent property. PI�AAINItdG CQt�[I4ISSION MrFTIPiG - JArIl1ARY 2�, 1978 I'a�e� 10 ` y Ms. Schnabe2 asked if the area would have additional lighting.= `�4 Mr. Seeger said that there v�ould be no additional lighting used in the Garden Center. Ms. Schnabel asked if the garden center would have some type of greenhouse, Mr, Seeger said that they r�ould decide on the �reenhouse only i£ the decided to keep the garden center operating, FIe indicated that for the present time, t4enard, Inc, ivas only looking at the Garden Center from an experimental standpoint, Mr. Bergman asked if the Garden Center rrould be strictly a seasonal operation. Mr. See�er said it erould be a seasonal operation. It vrould operate from Approximately April 1 throu�h approximately the middle of July.� Mr. Bergman asked if the ordinance specifically addressed this type of situation in the Special Use Permit. Mr. Boardman said that it stated that all outside sale of materials must be completely screened. If the outside sale of materials vas not screened it ��rould have to have a Special Use P ermit. Mr. Bergman asked that the Ordinance regarding screening be read. Mr. Boardman read the ordinance that pertained to screening, It read that a special use permit l�ras required if the enterprise had merchandise in the open and not under the cover of the display station. Mr. Seeger said that the initial objective ��as to test market the program. Mr. Boardman indicated tl:at r�ith the addition of the 5,000 square foot garden center, the Menard, Inc. lvould have adequate parking facilities� Ms. Mary L. Mathe�vs of 1259 Skyti�ood Lane N.E., explained that A4enards had originally proposed that the product lines they proposed e�ould have been consumer oriented such as furniture, carpet, domestic p�,neling, cabinets, mi7l�vork, appli�,nces and remodelin„ material. Tliey hacl intended to be strictly cash and carry and they did not intend to service lar�e contractors, She then tivent on and expl�ined all the changes in policy that had since occurred on tlie property as ��ell as revie�:�ed correUpondence that had been uritten re�arding tlie property. She eranted to knor� �vhy the public ��raU no�v Ueing requested to appelr at a public he4rin� tivhen they had never bcen aslced for tl�eir input on all ti:c other action, thlt hzd beon tc�lten. At thi: point, Pi�, l�tatlxe�^� pre�ented picture:, to the CoMmic:;ion shorrin�; exactly r�hat the Mc�nnrd operat:io�i looker� lilce from her property. Tt�e nicturc� dcpicted al�o tJic screen that r;aa pre�ently UeinU used on the property. . PLAT111ItIG C�1�fFdI ��7�N idP1�"3'IPIG - JAPiUARY 25, 1978 Pa�e 1 1 , , .. Ms. Atathee�r vranted to knor� •�vhy the neighborhood's inpul:•��ras being a�l:ed re�ardin� the instal7.ation of a�arden center ��rhen trie� ,, Ureren't a�iced �nc�n the "Ycuge" lumber expan::ion took place. "_ �� Mr. Boardman said that it �*�as mainly because of the nature of the request for the garden center :�ihere merchandise t�rould be in the open and not undcr cover o�' i;rie display shoivroom. Iie explained that Menards e�as required to apply for a Special Use Permit to have such a.n outside display. t4r. Boardman said that Idenaxds �vas allo�ved to have stora�e of inerchandise solely intended to be retailed. The code read� "all ra�v materials, supplies, finished �oods, semi-finished products and equipment� not including motor vehicleJ� shall be in an enclosed buiZdznd or screened on a11 sides from public vie�•r by fence or other approved screening which rras taro feet higher than the hi�hest item to be stored�'. Mr, Boardman expiained thzt the above e�as an alloered usa�e. He said that as the garden center ti�rould not be totully screened� it-required a special use permit. F3e said that one of the requirements of the Special Use Permit ��Jas the notification of property otirners rrithin 200 feet of the property. Ms. I•tatheers felt thzt she needed legal consultation and asked that the City Council not take action until she had the time to do so. She explained that the problems erith the Nienards operation had gone on for over 2z years and even though i�lenards � they r�ant to be '�friends�� they have not done one thing that they said they r�ould do at a11 the meetin�s they have had. Ms. f�tather�s indicated that }-�ayor Pdee had sug�ested at one of tk�e meetings that Yiad been held ti��ith i�Ienards, that a density of use study be canducted. She vanted to request that that study be done. Chairperson Harris explained that the action at this time r�as to recommend io City Council and that the final action erould be taken by tl�e City Council, He said that there ��rould most likely be time betrleen the action talcen by the Planning Commission and the time it �vent to City Council for T•1s. hlathe�vs to get le�al consultation. Mr. Bo�rdman said that if the Planning ComMission sent their recor.m�endation onto Cit3 Council, it �,ould be handled byr City Council at the February 6, 1�75 meetin�, IIe said that If Ms. Afatherrs felt that rrouldn't be enou�h time to adequately prepare for legal coun�ultztion, he suggested she Uring it up to tlze City Council at that tirae for their consideration. Iie said that final ac;tion ti:�ould not necessax•ily hnve to Ue tat�en on I'ebruary b, 1978. - PLANNiAIC C�Mt4I557bN MF,P,TIPIG - JANUARY Z5� 197P Pa�� 12 Mr. 13er�man �aid that tivo thing� ti��ere really bein� diecuUsad. , One traa the Special Use Permit reque�t which the Ordinance�;� �� does provide for under certain conditions, He said it i��as j the mattex of cthether or not i;he -zonin� code or'the city ordinance provide far the type of i:hin� that the petitioner vras renuesting to do. He said that the other thing bein� _ di�cussed ti�ras the aue�tion of nei�hbor2iness on the part of Menard� vhere there �vas alr�ays back�round of citizenry complaints and an impression of laclz of attention by I�fenards. He said that eight separate letters had beett included in the packa�e that the Plannin� Co:nmzssion had before them re�arding nuisance type subjects, He said that he had the im�ression that the neighbors ars basically upse�i�rith Menards in genera2. Chairperson Fiarris said that it :1as his assumption that it tvas much "deeper�� than the fact of Menard's neighborliness, Mr. Board�an said that ]�ienards tivas located in a C2S zone. He explained that the inside operation ivas definitely a retail operatzon, He said that tarhat made this particular operation questionable for this particular zoning rras the outside lumber operation that they rrere presently involved in, Aoi��ever, he said that the outside lumber operat'ion rras the accessory use of ihe storage of inerchandise solely intended to be retailed by a related and established princip2e use, Ms, P�Iary E. Cooney of �5q-113th Avenue NE said that she orrnea Lot 8 of Auditor�s Subdivision No. q�. She said that she tiJas definitely against Menards having a garden center, She said that she had had so much trouble �vith Menards, She said she had all their trash on hes• property, She said she had hired someone to cut the grass on her property because Menard� had cor�plained her grass needed cutting. She sa3d that the person she hired rrouldn't cut the grass because he ti�la� afraid of t�rrecking his mor�er on all the trash that lras on the property. She said,that instead of i7enards having their snorr hauled a�vay, they durap al1 the snorr on her property, She sazd that Menards refused to pay her rent for the property. She said she sent them bills but that they totally ignored them. She said she didn't r�ant any more garbage anfl the garden center �r�ould only increase the garbage already present at ti2at location. Chairperson Harris pointed out that the Garden Center would not abut her property. Ms, Cooney said it didn't matter, She �vas sti11 agsinst any garden center goin� in at that location. Slie didn�t like the idea that she had to pay taxes on her groperty and then rlenards is able ta use it free of charge. She said that the Menards oper�tion r�as already a dirty operation and they didn't need a�arden center tliat tvould only add to the tr�sh problem. � PLi!T•iNTPIC Cl)t4?AiSST(?pi t4PrTTA1� - 3AT3UARY 7_5� 1978 Pa�;e,'. 1�� Mc,-.Suhrbier indicated that in a letter dated April 20,�19�"J�,,. �'% Mr,, I.avrrence F, hfenard ha.d said he had offered A1s. Cooney the : proposition.that he �s�ould iceep her strip of land picked up; mowed and maintained short of vratering and landscaping. Ms. Cooney said that t�tenard's couldn't keep their ovrn.proper�y clean and she »anted them to leave her land alone. She said that she vrould �ladly take care of her property once they removed their trash from it. 5he asked if there vreren't any codes to take care of the trashy conditions of Pdenard's. Chairperson Harris said that something would be attempted to take care of the problems, Ms, Cooney said she would give Fridley a chance to do something. She said that if 1:hey didn�t v�ant to have Menard�s clean up their property she i��as going to contact the State Health Department, She said that she did not mant any garden center going in on their property. She su�gested they put the garden center inside their building if they feel they have to have one, She said that she had enough rubbish to clean up from them nour, and she didn't want a garden center in the parking lot that Nould only add to the trash problem. Mr, Ron Lang of 12?8 Skyraood Lane brought up the point that there v✓as a].ready so much traffic problems in the area at preseni. He said thai shortly cJOrk vaas to be started at {;h.e interseci:ion of 53rd and Central, He said that the highit�ay ti�rork ztself �vi11 add to the confusion, tirithout also trying to experiment with a garden center. He said that if 14enard's really r�anted to attempt to,experiment with the possibility of a Garden Center, t2aey should tivait until that intersection improvement ivas comnleted, He said that they really wouldn't get an accurate study vrhile that construction tivas taking place. Mr, I,an� suggested that a Special Use Permit not be granted at xhas time. He felt they should lvait until that intersection update raas completed, Ms, Schnabel �vas concerned that i2enard�s did noi properly maintain the Fire Lane in front of their building, She also said that they did not have delineated pedestrian path in front of the building, ' Mr. Seeger said that during the �vinter ihey did ha.ve trouble keeping the cars parked far enough array from the building, He peinted out ihat the �arden center ;vould not be in aperatior. in the winter, so it i:�ould not add to that particular problem. He said that in the summer peonle tvould be able to see the 2ines, and usually abided by paricing �vhere it was irdicated. PT.APiNJ1IG C6M14iSSI�N 24t;T"PI1IG - JANIIARY 25, 1978 P�ge lt� � �� Mr. Seeger saicl that they did offer to clean up Tts. Coomey's �� groperty of not only the debris that c�as from their opera-tion hut �lco any debri� that rrould come off the free}ray. He said . they had been told to stay off her property. Mr. Seeger said that the PA Systems have been repaired to the best of i;heir ability, He �aid that the systemu have been � turned aeray from the neighborhoods, He said that they have decreased their use of the pa�ing sysiem to about six times a day corapared to much'more at this time la�t year, Mr� Seeger said that t•ienard�s had completely repaved the entire rear section of the narking lot, He said they had put up fences 1�hen they i��ere requested to. I3e felt they had done about all they could possibly do. He indicated that he could appreciate the surrounding home ormer's feelin�s and he said NFenard's had tried to be reasonzble people and get along with the community. Chairperson Harris asked if Mr, Seeger �vas prepared to discuss some of the items that wNere mentioned in a letter from Hagerty, Candell and Lindberg, Attorneys at Laer, He said it �vas his feelin� that a Special Use Permit tivould prot�ably compound same of the problems. Mr. Seeger said he could discuss most of the situations, Chairper�on Harris asked vrhat the Garden Center's hours ��rould be. Mr. Seeger said they would be the same as the store hours. He said it r�ould not be a late night operation. Chairperson Harris said that it tras stated that Menard's seemed to be rather unbending in their position regarding some late night operations involving drop-shipment of lumber, Mr. Seeger said thai they presently did not encourage shipments arriving after 5:00 P,ri. He said on occasion trucks did unload their shipments after that time, hot=�ever., he said that since they liad been requested to cease their late night drop-shipments they had not done so, He said that I�Ienard�s r�ould continue to hold such evening trucliing to a minimum so long as it was able to do so and carry on its business Chairperson Harris said that the PA System situation seemed to be the greatest problem area. Mr. Seeger said that the use of the PA System Evas decreaUed conUiderably, FIe said everything has been done to the best of their ability, He said it tvas not Menard�s intention of ag�ravate anyone. He mentioned that they did have a business to run. —.F PI.nrrrrrrrr, COt�td7> ;ION M?:I;TI11G - JAPIIJARY 2, 1978 Pat�e 15 . Mr. Langenfeld indicated that 14r, Seeger had ale�ays, iri"the past, vaorlced r�ith the City to the best of hi� ability. _ �9 '' Mr. Seeger ir.dicated that 1�(enard�s had not been drop shippin� late at night since the issue sias made last sprin�. He said they had rare� occasional problerns uhen tliey had a�reat deal of merchandise bein� received from the distribution centers, Fie said on such a�iven day, they have had uk� to five tractors break dovn ��rhich t��ould leave the remaining tractors to do all the haulin�. He said, that since people r�ere usually r�aiting for the merchandise, the unloading erould have to continue until it v�as completed� Mr. Seeger said he r�asn't sure of trhat actually started the problems or iihen� but he said I-ienard's did not ��rzsh to have these problems on a continual basis, �Ie said he v✓as rrilling to ti•rork ��ith the people and the city to preserve the integrity of the business, Mr. Berg:�an referenced a letter dated ltpril lg, �9'J� to Mr, Larry t�Senard re�arding refuae stora�s and collection. Iie said that in the letter the t�enard� s-Cashtvay Lur.,ber company r�as inforr�ed they r�ere required to cl.ean and maintain the areas free of all the refuse found debosited there, He said the letter was directed totiiards the drainage ditch north of the parking lot, Ae asked if it rras t4s. Cooney's property that the letiter c�as referri_ng ta, ris. Cooney�s brother said that it raas comr�on for ifenard's to du�p trash on that property all the tir�e. Mr. Bergman said that P�4r. Steven J. Olson, ihe Environmental Officer, had directed 1�fettard�s to clean up that property, but he understood the fact that Ais, Cooney did not erant Menard�s on her property. T4s. Cooney commented that that ��as exactly evhat she ��ranted TSenard's to do, She said she rrould cut her olvn �rass and maintain the property herself, She said all she r;anted 1•�as for 2�Senard's to clean up all their trash from her property, Mr, Seeger said that had been their original intent, He said they had agreed to clean up the prope:ty and to maintain it for ris. Cooney also. Ms. Coone,y said siie r�ould talce care of her orm property; she just i�anted them to keep their trash off of the property� Mr. Seeger said thnt tnose terms crould be most a�reeable io Menard�s. PLhNNIPlG COT4MISSIOJd MEPTING - JANUARY 25. 1�Z P�e 16 ' , Mr. Langenfeld pointed out that in the pa�t, Menarc��s had.not alt�lays been cooperative lvith the City. He also•said that "iS'! �� they sient crith Mr, Lan��s su��estion he definitely agreed v�itli' a complete study of fire lanes, traffic florr, general safety, proper removal of rubbish, and proper clean-up of premises daily. In other ��rords, he said, �ive Pienard's a means of shorving City a genuine display of good faith, Mr. Aennis L. Schneider, Second P�ard Councilmember, indicated that the problems raith the Menard�s operation had been goin� on for a lon� time. He said that one poini in time there had been a meeiing betrreen the residents and %ir. Menard at City Hall. He said that everyone came out of that meeting 'ihinking that an agreement had been reached; hoti�rever, nothing really changed. He said i;hat it rras his �eneral feelin� that t4enard's had not been cooperative. He said they had not responded to the correspondence that the City Attorney had sent them. He believed that something did have to be done. Chairperson Harris sug�ested that Mr. Schneider, Mayor Nee, himself, and the neighbors ha_ve another meeting to attempt to solve the problems involved trith the situation at hand. Mr. Seeger said thai he rras sure that some ty�e of agreement could be reached at such a meeting, He said that there lvas really no rray they �:�ould be able to make 100f Qf the people satisfied 100�/ of the time. Chairperson Harris said that it had come to the point that something definitely had to be done. He said that he understood thai Mr. Seeger only «orked for a Company and that there rras an expense point to consider as far a� hienard's ivould go on remeding the problems.but he felt there ivzs some comnon ground that could be found to help sblve the situations. He said he didn�t thinli r�fenard�s r;anted the bad public relai;ions, and i:he City did not t�rant any more of the trmess�� to continue, and the residents rranted some solution to their problenis. Chairperson Harris aslied if that rrould be agreeable to the residents that tivere present at the meeting. Ms. tdather�s said that it tras most agreeable tiiih her, She hoped thai the planned meeiing ��ou1d finally take care of the problems, She said she rrould }rait until after ihe meetirig to decide ii she �vould sti11 need Ze�al consultation. Tir. Lang pointed out that most of the nuisance complaints were not 111 costly items to correct. He said that they basically needed cooperation. 1,. ,'�„-'. 2•fOTI01d by I9r. T3er�ma.n, seconded by t4�._ Suhrbicr, that the' - . Public I[earing: Re.n,uest for a Special Use Permit, SP �,'/7£�-07 by 2•lenard Cash�:ny Lumber: Per Fridley City Code, Neci;ion 205,1�1, �, N, to allocr the developnent of a 7i0�0 ;,quare Toot �arden center in 1:he paritin� lot, on Lot 9, fiuditor's Subdivision IIo. g4, the same being 5j51 Central l:venue i7,�. be continued until'such time that there has been a meetin� of i°fenard's ManageMent, of concerned citizenry, and City adr�inistration to resolve existing conflicts/grievance�, Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Chairperson Iiarris declared a break at 10:�0 P,,M, 3• pprrrRrT�R,7��n„l n.r�rTT�flTnr-�itm r nn.ci�scaa.u.�r..�wwe� 1�OTTONTiy Mr. Lan�enfeld, seconded b;� Plznnin� Commission receive the corre EnvirnoMental Community Services Inc. regarding litter receptacles and litt and Shopping Centers in the local a. all votin� aye, the r�otion carried_� Mr. Boa3� Communit a presen they had befor� Lf Mr. r�man, that the no enee from the d ed;�anuary 23, 19'78, pickup,,,,#'n-�—�ro"CTi'�C iti e s . �,:�t3pbri'a voice vote, an indicated tha.t,�rt'Fie� ntlemen from the Environmental G�ervices, in�"'��rere resent at the meetin� to give luined that n� Cora.�issi valu of the tras eceptac it may hzve been in 'olat'o it could be clzssifie s a the billboard type use r ld ce taclejadvestisenent scheme that e reason the item rras brought n rras because of the advertising es that they had. He s:id that n of the Sign Ordinance because �'billbcard uset'. He said that only be allo�:�ed in specific cases, Mr, Richard C. Gillesp' , P si Services� Inc „ locate at 28�Q Brocklyn Center 55430 Iie intr other mecabers of the or�panv. Mr, 3acli Lin had rauch exp commented th husiness suc He said i;ha� director oT dent of Environr�ental Community 57th l�venue I�TOrth, Suite y.35� o�ced to the Commission the cis. g, a retired Chi f er ence in Ruality Co a it �;�s lzis belief t essful the key ��ould Mr. Lindslcog r.�as the tne ttetropolitan r,rea, of the Navy, r�ho �rol. Air. Gillespie ha� to mal�e the hav to be quality, regio 1 planning Dr. Verno L. Stintzi, rrho had extensive yea executiv cnana�ement, r:as a professor in a gra business school, Pir. Stintzi cras the Re�ional i for ti�e �Setrepalit� n Area. He tivou�.d be v+orl:ing t.ie Ci y malcin ; sura thc Company n3hered to tiie as ��:e as perform all the promised services. in <ulager riith cantracts ,i SF.�. _. .I ERR � ,t�A.eni►iA�. �� NUMDER� APPLTCAN7''S S Address 'i CI7"f 0� PRIDI.IiY }dINNGSUTA • PLANNING AND ZONINC FORhI 7'elephone Number ��O��i �� 'PROPERTY OA'N8R'S SICNATllRC � . =�.> , , . ' . :' �2' TYPE Of R�QUEST Rezoning Special Use Permit Approval of Premin-. inary � Fina1 Plat � Streets or Allcy Vacations Address y7 � S' ��' ST. NE. - cm�t : Other Telephone Number �.7 � V � "i �� % � , � d' Fee �Q Receipt No. %Q� �J Street Location of Property��j�(a1��.{i��.-t3r4ST.,Y�, _ Legal Description of Property �� .� A�� Present Zoning Classification �D �� Existing Use of Property V��(a N 1 Acreage of Property Describe briefly the proposed zoning classification or,type•of use and improvement proposed �i ��f T IL�Otv ` �.�rL(_ �F ,; . ._�-( %oGL ��Sit'J��i�r�C_ . }las the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot spl3't or vaxiancc or special use permit on t3�e subject site or part of it? yes E/ n� What was requested and iahen? The undersigned understands that: (a) a list of all residents and otianers of property within 300 feet (350 feet £or rczoning) ��lst be attacl�ed to this application. (b) This application must Ue signed by all owners of tlie property, or an eaplanation given <<hy this is not the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings resulting £rom thc fa,ilurc to list thc names and actdresses of all residents and property o�ancrs of property in question, belongs to tl�c undcrsigned. . A sketdi of proposed property and structure must be dra«�i and attached, shotaing thc follo�aing: 1. North Direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lot. 3. llimensions of property, proposcd structurc, and front aad sidc setbacks. ' 4. Strect Names. 5. Location and use of adjacent exisiing buildings (within 300 Ecetj The unclersigned hercUy declares thst all the facts and representations,stated in this application are true and correct. n �. DATE L. � ,� r , � SICDIATURE APP4I(. N't' Datc Filed �<�-.3-'7cQi Dntc of ttcaring �-8"�%8 � � W //9 CORNER SEC. 26 _ f -- - ` c� ; 48�0 � ,a��b� 4��8- -qg�7 � q8s�- 9g�5 � �8A4 > �9 83 3 83Z a-p ��" ; . :� c�t - :is - . ii3 � � x� ii � : , K =--c-- - � i,,..1= Z "a �s.,_. � � � r s , 47TN. qY}r[� . �:�r�. 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Feeney, T[LHhHOIJE (612J5.Y1.3450 Cebruary 22, 797$w�' ,4l� Re: City of Fridley Plotfce of finding of No Significant Effect on the Environment and Environmental Review Record F.nclosed is a copy of our notice of finding of no significant effect on the environment and a copy of our Environmental Reviet•r Record, ldritten cemmen�s will be received on this issue until 5:00 an Friday, F•larch 70, 1978, after tvhich tir�e �•re ti•rill be requesting a release of Federal Funds. Sincerely, �` �� ti � �:'.'::,_t '' Y,�t:=,1�?F?..e.�-�...--�.- �JERROLD 'L. BOi�IZ�14AN City Planner JLB/de cc: Jol-m Soland, Chairman, t�ietrapolitan Councii Tom lieriron, Office of Federal fi State Regulations Fridley League of 1�lomen Voters Fridley Chamber of Conmerce 5chool District ;14 Cha�irnian, Nyde Park Weighbcrhood Council Uick Sobiech City of Coon Rapids Gity of alaine City of t•toundsvieta Cii:y of Spring Lal;e Park City of hew [iri9hion City of Columbia Neights City of Rrool;lyn Center City of [3rool;l�m Park U.S. Lnvironr.iental Protectinn Agency .lan�es Solem, State Planning Ayency c-TS-�n T.� ENVIROPlML'F�TAL REVIE4! RCCORD A. APPLICANT: City of Fridley Minnesota 6431 University Avenue N.E. (612j 571-3450 ' g, PROJECT DATl1: �� , Chief Executive Officer: Nasim M. Qureshi, City Manager 1. Rehabi]itation Grant Program: This program will provide grants for rehabilitatibn of housing in primary focus areas N1 and !t2 as laid out in the Comprehensive Housing Plan (See Attachment A). The grants will be directed primarily to those households living on low and moderate incomes, and ��rill suppler�ent the rehabilitation loan program and Section S proqram, already operatiny in the community. The program wi11 also correspond to the 1976 Street Improvement Project in primary focus area !f2 and the 1978 Street Improvement Project scheduled for focus area #1. 2. Development and Enforcement of a Housing Maintenance Code: This program will provide for the development of a housing maintenance code and its enforcement witiiin the primary focus areas #1 and N2, as laid out in the Comprehensive Housing Plan. 3. Development and Operation of a Housing i•taintenance Resource Center: This program will provide important information regarding rehabilitative con- struction and maintenance of housing units, and also workshops for the benefit of the resident. C. EXISTING ENVIROt�I�tENTAL CONDITIONS AND 7REND5: The project as outlined above contains two primary focus areas as outlined in i:he Comprehensive Housing Plan (See Attachment A), and tvill be considered as one project. The project area is a mix of multi-family, single family and coranercial uses, divided by a major nortfi-south highti�tay [Higharay 47] (See Attachment B). The residential structures consist primarily of small, slab-block houses, constructed immediately after t•lorld lJar II, and small apartment dwellings ranying from 4 to 8 units. t4uch of the City's low and moderate income popu- lation lives in the project area. The general characteristics of the project area is flat sand plain terrain ��+ith mature vegetatian. The delivery systems are existing and serve the nature of development adequately. There are 65� households within the project area, with approximately 44 households (6.7") below poverty level and 192 households (29.2%) below 50% median metropolitan income level. The housing trend in the project's focus area N1 is one of disruption due to scattered zoninq which allo�vs a high degree of a mixture of single famiiy, multiple family and connnercial uses. This unstable characteristic has resulted in only limited reinvestment in the neiyhborhood. Ho��rever, the neighborhood has stong future potential due to an ective nei9hborhood citizen group which is working taitti the City to chancle the unstnble natin•e of the present zoning to EnvironmenCal Review Record . Page 2 allow for reinvestment as a residential neighborhood. � �: �6 The housing trend in the pro,iect's focus area 112 is a stable single family residential neighborhood with an influr, of scattered multiple family dwellings around�Interstate 694 and South of I.694. The reinvestment potential is high due to the consistency of uses throughout, to the existing zoning. D. REVELANT A-95 MATTERS: None. Project was submitted to A-95 review agencies for comment. _,,._ .. E. C011PARISOf! 41ITI1 APPLICAI3LE STAWDARDS (IIlD PLAPJS: The EvaluaLiQn of the Project will consider all three Proqrarns as listed under Section f3 - Program�Data. The rehabilitation proqram is probahly the most visible and will be most"clo,sely affected by the environmental review, however, the maintenance code program and the housing service center will also be reviewed. ., �� FnCfOR: (I ) Lucal Cumprehansive Plans. incluSiuo 1•rnd Use and Growth htanagement elcmems (2) Area�vide (or Reoional) Plan , (3) Local Zoning Ordinances f'ACiOR: (4) Noisz Stan�ards. • (5) Flood Plain Standards (6) Coasfal Zone Slandards (T) \4etlands SiandarSs (8� pic Quality Siandsrds (9) Waler Qualiq� Slandards (10) Wildlile Sl:i�l/IJftIS (i 1) Olhcr SlanJarJs (speril�'1 PROJECT !S IN CO`IPLIAiVCE YfiS NO X � T2ATiNG A N/A N/A N/A A A N/A N/.4 NOT AYPLICA[3LE X SOURCE/ DOCU,�fENTATION F0, C4ty Staff 1-24-T8 Mn P.C.A, City Files v�- E. �OMPARTSOPJ 4)ITH APPLICAI3LE S7/1PtDAP.DS At�D PLIINS: Describe the results �of having compared the project to applicable standards and plans. -.!_ 4� -r FRC70R (1) The project is in linc vrith the Comprehensive Housing Plan and . the City`s Housing �ssistance nlan, and meets all land use `° requirements of the City of I"ridley. FACTOR (2) The project is not afiected by regional planning. - FACTOR (3) 7he project complies �•lith all City codes and ordinances which regulate these types of programs. FACTOR (4) Noise Standards - Field observation by City Staff January 24, 1978. There is a considerable amount of traffic noise within the entire project area primarily because of the road pattern in the area. Nighway 47 (��rhich runs north and south through the project area) is heavily traveled and does generate some traffic noise, however, due to the signalization along the route, the speed of the traffic and the tire noise is considerably less than than of I. 694, which is the other major road system. The only real effect that Highl�tay 47 has on the residential area is within focus area �l and then only those units which are adjacent to the roadway. (See Attachment G). I, 694, (which runs east-west through ihe project area) only abuts the south portion of focus area �2. There vtas a considerable amount of traffic noise from this roadway, however, noise barriers have been erected and have cut dowr� the amount of noise in focus area #2 immensely. The condition of traffic noise has existed prior to this project and has not proved to be detrimental to the developinent of residential homes in the project area. The project will not increase the noise levels in the area and will not make the completion of the project impracticai. FACTOR (5) Project not affected by City Flood Plain Regulations. FACTOR (6) Not Applicable. FAC70R (7) Project not affected by wetland standards. FACTOR (8) Air Quality Standards - Minnesota Pollution Control Agency The Minnesota P.C.A. findings for the 7 County Area show that in mast cases Primary Standards have been exceeded. (See Attachment D), ho��rever, � there is no evidence that the concentrations are near the levels detrimental to residential land use. There are no major pollutants near the project area and the project itself ti+�ill not increase the existing level of pollutants. FACTOfi (9) 4dater Quality Standards: The project is totally serviced by City �vater and setiver a�id servcd by storm sewer system. (See attached �vater quality reports, Attachment E). No change in water quaiity will arise fi•om the project. FACTOR (l(1) Not Applicable. FACTOR (11) Ivot Applicablc. � �, .. F. SITE-S7RUCTURE-DESIGN SUITl�GILITY: PHYSICFlL F1ICTORS. 7he Evaluation of _the Project will consider all three Programs are lisied under Section 6- Program Data. The rehabilitation proc�ram is probably the most visible and wili be mosi: cl'bseiy affected by the environmenta7 review, however, the maintenance code program and the housing service center r�ill also be reviewed, ; f!�a FACTOIi:. RATIIYG UQCU�fENTATION � (1) Slope Stabiiity N�q (2) Foundation Conditions N(A ! ':'" "' "' (3) Terrain N/A (4) Soil Petmeability NJR (5) Cround Water N/A (G) Natucat Hazards N/A (7) btan-Made Hazacds ��A (3) Nuisances N/A (9) Compatability� in use and A FD Ci ty Staff . uafe with enviromnent • FO City Staff QO) Neighborhovd Character F. SITE-S7RUCTURE-DESIGN SUITA6ILITY: PHYSICAL rl#GTORS. Project). FACTOR (1) Not Applicable. FACTOR (2) Pdot Applica6le. FACTOR (3) Not Applicable. FAC"fOR (4) Not Applicable fACTOR (5) Not AppTicable. FACTOR (6J Not Applicable: FACTOR (7) Not Applicable. FAC70R (II) Not Applicable. � so (Matters Affectin� the. FACTOft (9) Compatability in use and scale with the environment- Field observation by City Staff The project area is compatible to the surrounding area in terms of land use. The project's focus area �2 is primarily residential in character completely compatible with the residential areas adjacent to it. 7he primary focus area ,�1 is compatible to.the adjacent residential area to the north, however, the character of the residential units differ in size, age and density. However, the purpose of the project is to iinprove the existing structures througn reliabilitation and general overall public works improvements, so as to encourage reinvestment in the project area. These can only improve the compatibi7ity of the project area with the surrounding area. FACTOR (10) Neighborhood Character - Field observation by City Staff The project is a rehabilitation of structures scattered throughout the entire project area. The project is intended only to improve existing conditions to encourage reinvestment in the area, as well as provide for the correction of existing health and safety hazards. � �_. :51 G. SITE-STRUCTURE-DESIGN SUITA6I1_ITY: SERVICE DELIV[RY FACTORS: (Matters Affecting the Project}. The Evaluation of the Project will consider all three Pro.grams as listed under Section Q- Frogram Data. The reha6ilitation program is probab,ly the most Visible and taill be more closely affected by the environmental review, however, the maintenance code program and the housing service center will also be reviewed. PACfOR: RA7'tNG SOURCL-/ EXlSTING PROGRA,1IblED UOCUtitENT.�TION (I} Elementary Schouis A D15t1^1Ct 14 (3) Junior and Senior High Schools q D7 stPi Ct 14 (s) �mploymeni A � Employment Stats. (4) SLoPping A Ci ty Fi l es (5) Park, Playground and Qpen Space C A Park & Open $pdC2 Plan (G) Police and Fire A C7 ty Fi 1 es (7) Heahh Care and Social Services A � C1ty F11.es (8) Transporta�ion A City FlleS (�) 4Vater Supply System A Clty F1105 (10) Sanitary Sewer System p Ci ty Fi 1 es (��) Other Services (specify) N/A (12) Srorm Sewer System A Cl ty Fl l es (13) Solid Wastc Disposal A Clty F11eS {)4) Other Utililies (specify) N�(J� (IS) Paved Access to Site q City F71es (1G) Radio and TV Rereption p FO Cl ty $tdff `' ' I� Y V��. .. . G. SITE�STRUCTURE-D[SIGN SUITAQILI7Y: SERVICG O[LIVERY FACTORS: (M�tters Affecting the Project}, _ ' y FACTOR (1) Elementary Schools � ° � The project area is serviced by bussing to elementary schools.� . Ztie quality and capacity of schools in District l4 is adequate. FACTOR (2) Junior & Senior High Schoo]s The project area is serviced by adequate facilities _ Project location provides for safe, easy access to in District 14. school facilities. fACTOR (3) Employment There is adequate access to employment opportunities through close proximity of transit lines and regional transnoration corridors. The City provides for approximately 12,000 job opportunities for approximately 10,000 households, with a future potential of over 20,000 joUs. FACTOR (4) Shopping The project area is servicedby clese shopping areas with transit access as well as safe pedestrian access. FACTOR (5) Park, Playground and Open Space The project area is served by a park facility that is inadequate for the population by standards set by the Park and Open Space Comprehensive Plan. The City wi11 be attempting to correct this inadequacy of facilities through accessibility to other facilities tivithin close proximity and through possible acquisition of additional land< The area is well served by a bikeway system, which serves as a major link of recreation open spaces. FACTOR (6) Police and Fire The project area is highly accessible to emergency vehicles and service is adequate to meet project needs. FACTOR (7) Health Care & Social Services The project area is well serviced by necessary health and social services. t•lithin the City are numerous health �l:nics and a major hospital facility - Unity Hospital. Transit service provides easy access to necessary social services provided by Anoka County. FACTOR (IIj Transporation The project area is well served by public transit with adequate scheduling and destinations to meet population requirements. Well serviced by local and regional transporation routes as t-Jell. FACTOR (9) and (10) Watter Supply System & Sanitary Sewer System The project area is ��rell served by both City water and setaer that is more than adequate to rr�et the project area demand. FACTOR (11) Not Applicable. FACTOR (12) Storm Se�ver System Project area served by storm setver system adequate to meet project area needs. — r._ �: , ; - ,� (!�`�q_I�y. .. y ��G� .� • \lV FACTOR (13). Salid blastc Disposal �� Project area serviced by private disposal service. Adequate•service to meet project area deniands. FAC70R (14) Piot Applicable. FACTOR (15j Paved Access to Site :'. Project area well served by paved streets. . FACTOR (16) Radio & TV Reception Reception is exce7lent. p.:. _ _(: y .. . . .• ��••_ ... ��.: H. Il1PACTS Ot� SURROU(lDING EhIVIROhli4EP�T: PNYSICAL FFICTORS, (Matters Affected .by the Project), The Evaluation of the Project will consider all three Progralns as listed under Section Q- Program Data. The rehabilitation proc�ram is probabay the more visible and �•iill be most closely aff�cted by the envi;onmental revievr; ho�rever, the maintenance code pi�ogram and the housing service center will'als� be revie'v�ed. PACTOK: RATING SOURCC/ DOCUIIGNTATION (1) Impact on unique geological tcatures or N/A resources (2) Impact on rock and wil stability N�R ' (3) Impact on soil crodability N/A (A) Impact on amund water (level, Oow, N/A quality) ' {5) Impact on open streams and lakes H�A (6) Impact on plant and animal lifc ��A (7) Impact on energy resources A FO Glty $tdff (8) Impact on aesthetics and ur6an design p� f0 C7ty $taff H. IMPl1C7S ON SURROUNDING Et�VIROPJ��{EWT: PHYSICAL FACTORS Project). . fACTORS (1) -(6) 61i11 not be affected by the project. �� , (Matters �lffected by the � ... y FACTOR (7) Impact on Energy Resources The Rehabilitation Program ��ill pravide for an opportunity of maintenance _, and home improve�nent ti�hich 4ii11 provide for energy improvements. The resource center will also provide information and material oii energy saving improvements with housing improvements. - FACTOR (8) lmpact on Aesthetics and Urban Design The positive aesthetic impact on the project are� with the rehabilitation program will be considerable. The program calls for maintenance of existing structures, the rehabilitation of mair.tainable structures and the inclusion of a public vaorks street improvement project. _,i,., . T. ... M �' i�iD I. IP1PAC75 ON SURf?OU(�DIP�G fPNIRONt4FIJT: SERVICL DELIVERY FACTORS. (Matter.s }fffected by the Project). The [valuation of the Project will consider'all :thrcc�Programs as listed under Section D- Program Data. 7he rehabilitation program is probably the most visible and ti•�i11 �e most ��osely affected by the environmental review, however, the maintenance code program and the housing service center �ill-al-so be revietved. r,�cro�t: rznr►nc souszcF� lXIS7'IhG PROGRAAitSSD �OCU�iLN�'AT{tJN (I) Elzmemary Schools N/A f'_) Junior and Senioc'.iigh p��/L Schovls (33 kmpfoyment N/A (4) Shopping N�q (5) Park. Playground and Open NJA Space (G) ' Police and Fire N�A � (7J Fl:ald� Cart a�id Social N/A Srrvites (S) 7ransportation N/A ' ('9) Other Services (specify) N/ii (10) �\;ntr Supply Syscen, . N�p (11) Sanitary Sewrr Syste�n N�A {13) Sturm Sewer Sysiem �jfA i!S) SuGd 1V;�s�t Disposal N/A t la1 Oihrr Utititie> (sperify�) NJA t 1 S) YaveJ Arcc>s w si�e N!A (lt�) Radio:ucd 7'V Rccepiion N%A e�, _�,,. .. ., J. IMPACTS ON SURROUF�DItdG ENVIRO�at4ENTlIL: SPECIAL FACTORS: (Matters �Ai'fected b the Project). The [valuation of the Project will consider all three Programs as listed under Section 6- Program pata. The rehabilitation program is probably `the most visi:ble and wi71 be more closcly affected by the environmental review, hoWever, the maintenance code pi�ogram and the housing service center will also be reviewed. racrorc: (I) Uisloric Propertics AFFECTt=D !3Y PRO.IECT '� YES * �p �C�r�Y ain end document procedures set forth at 36 CFR Part 800 � s}nocurt�ent this concltuion FACTOR: (?1 IndiviJuals and Families: (�} Di,placed (b) Eroplaced (•>) (mpact on Soci�l Fabri; and Contntw»ty Struciures (4) Other Speci;il Partors (specify} RATINC N/A N/A A/A � NOT APYLICAl3LE souacc/ DOCU:IIENTATION I. It+IPACTS Otd SURROUDlDTflG ENUIRO'r�ML"14T: SP[CIAL DELIVERY FACTORS: (Matfiers" Affected by L•he Project). - + � ` u�..'' ,� FACTQRS (1) to (16) The project will not afiect the service delivery sysi:ems: - J. IPiPACTS ON SURROUNDIN6 ENVIRONMENTAL: SPECIAL FACTCRS: (Matters Affected by the Pi•oject). FACTOR (1) Historic Properties The Project Area has no signficant historicaY or archeological sites. (See Attachment f), FACTOR (2) Not Applicable. fACTOR (3) Not Applicable. FACTOR (4) Not Applicable. i� � , r ; ti �. EP�VIRONi�IENTAL If�1PACTS IDENTIFI[D • '" a�'a� Identify and Describe Each /llteration of existing enviromental conditions, , adverse or beneficial, vrhich v�ill be cased or induced, in whole or in part, by the proposed project. , . 1) The proposed project vrill improve the physical character of the project area through the rehabilitation of existing structures. This rehabilitation will not anly improve the physical appearance of the structure, but improve the overall physical appearance of the neighborhood. 2) The proposed project rrill reduce the trend toward•physical deterioration and stabilize the single fainily characteristic and �•�ill provide the opportunity for reinvestment in the area, 3) The proposed project will remove potential hazards to the health and geaeral welfare of the residents due to unsafe conditions within many existing structures. A) The proposed project will be accompanied by a street improvement project which ��ill also provide for improvement to the physical appearance of the project area and encourage reinvestment. 5) .The Service Center Program will provide information and a tool loan service for citizens to use for maintaning and rehabilitating their residences or businesses. This �vill encourage the upgrading of residential neighborhoods and encourage energy saving methods of remodeling. Determine and Discuss chang�s which can be made in such things as proposed plans, policies, schedules, designs, locations, etc., in order to minimize or eliminate any adverse environmental impacts and to enhance environmental quality. In the treatment of adverse impacts, the prospects af changing things which are not part of this project should be explored, as well as changes to the project iteself. 1) The noise from Highway 47 on the projects primary focus area #1 should be considered as an adverse impact ta that area, however, the project consists primarily of upgrading existing structures so as to improve the physical conditions forits residents and to improve the environmental character of the neighborhood as a tiahole. Any changes to the plans, policies, schedules, designs or locationc are not feasible to the project since it is for rehabilitating existi�g structures. Some future consideration should be given which might modify the iinpact of traffic noise on the project area, hotaever, the benefits received from the project far outweigh the traffic noise consideration. M, Dete rniine and Describe tlie alternatives to the proposed project. Discuss whether or not the identified impacts can be eliminated or minimized or environmental quality enhanced through the adoption of such alternatives. 1) Alternative of no project: The alternative of no project would mean the continued deterioration of housi�tig in the project area, �aith an increased influx of mixed units of single family, multipYe fimily and conunercial uses. There srould be an increase of hcalth and safety hazards to res�dents in the project area, �aith a general s�read of conditions Co adjacent residential districts. 2) Alternative of Redevelopment: _, �. . ,,,',. . '_+ .. ..6C) � The alternative of redevelopment is unf�asible at this stage due�:to the fact that the conditions within the project area fiave not deteriorated to the point that this approach viould Ue feasible. The disruption of families through relocation �+ould be more detrimental at this stage, tfian Lhe alternative of no action. Rehabilitation rather than redevelopment, can spark reinvestment in the area, viith 1imited disruption_of the character of the neighborhood, yet promote the life of the neiyhborhood. N. Determine and Descr'ibe all conditions or safeguards vrhich should be implemented in order to protect or enhance environmental quality or minimize or eliminate adverse environmental impacts if the project is undertaken. 1) As demonstrated in the Environmental Review Record, the project itself will cause no adverse environmental effects. Its completion would only enhance the character of the neighborhood and' would eliminate health ar�d safety hazards which presently exist in existing structures. p. LEVEL OF CLEARANCE FINDING. Based on•the foregoing environmental assessment, it is concluded that: 1) �FINDING: A request to HUD for release of funds for the within project is not an action si;nif;cantly affecting the quality of the human environment, and no EIS is required. The reasons for sunporting the abnve finding are: The nature of the Project, which includes, the rehabilitation grant program, the housing maintenance code program, and the Housing and Plaintenance Resource Center, �vill not significantly effect any applicable standards or plans of the City, or have any detrimertal effect on the physical elements of the neighborhood, or have any detrimental effect on service delivery factors, or historical, social or human factors. CLEARANCE PROCEDURES: Notice of Finding of No Significant Effect on the Environment has been published and disseminated in an approved manor and a true copy of same is attached (See Attachment G). � l � n 63oM1 R �a� :��-�= . �rt'ac�tnaN'� � .. r M.B.P.B. No. G O e�.o r a..- (//�_ .. ��--_-'� / F r�a �:�:::,:=:::— �.e.�i:��a^"'�BaM� (�'.�.�ei^.�T.0 "r'^"15"'� Ut�en'i.:va:Ait+�%+:J N.'N:�•j':;:.'.-(,�':; fL'•fj �:.\�.�1��.'!'::.....\'�::.�i:.. : Lv'H:: M: N'U: .`.iY.ti:}.'.:Qi:(:.'.,1Yn��'.^?. � m �� ;�� r.4�i PRIMA{iY � �. � � • �.,� . y _� , 62 y � �� '��`�� I� .. �� -sacasa�vc �=��cai�.a-r�a�rion� , t�:.�:<�,ti.>......,.:,..::...:.,...�•'� -: ..;:::..,..�,..�:.:.� PE�CIJ�G'P ,4l�C:ta , . _�... . � � ; a � m Arrn,cKr�nn��r' C, ' ''.: �3 - . . No�sE !LC _ � p • , � r' ; � . �= , �� , �� . . r .�, t.: .�..,..y:^'�.. ........•a..n � .n�.r.�-, y. �C��.�—JY�c9� I ��=I-��QtL..B'F'.�'.3': � �t._.._., ...,_._....,....u...,.,:.... ..ti:.,-_-�.,.�� P'RiJJcL'T AR�c/� .. r.::.�.... ... ..� ... .,{ ; f 4 . ;. �ir�n��'c� i�o��u�ion Can�rol Ac��ncy December 2, 147� Mr. George Aler.ander, Jr, ReglonaZ Administrator Regton V, Environaental Protection Agency 230 South Dearbor.n Street Chlcago, ILL 606D4 Desr Mr. dlexander: The attached information describes ehe attainment and nonattain- men[ designations approved by tha� 4iinnesota Pollution Cantrol Agency Board on 2�ovember 22, 1477. You will notice that these designations leave muc:h of the state in the unclassi£iable category for al�. poZlutants but Nitrogen Dioxide. As we discussed with k'ayne Pearson, we are now anaiyzing additianal information which we expect will allow us to recommend designations foT most of the presentlp unclassified areas at the Board neeting on December 20, 1977, A£tex that meeting, we will immediately submit any addit3onal designations ta qau as amendments to the a.ttached designatians. I hope that th3s will allow qou enough time Yo meet the Eebruary 3, Z97S publication deadliae. Thank you for the assistance yonr staff has provided in making these designations. If pou have any quesCions, please contact Erad Beckham (612 - 296-7265) or Susan Wiernan (612 - 296-7358). SincerelT, l..J� E ard L iik, P.L. Director Division o£ Air Quality SW%rmg cc: Robert buprey, US EPA, Region V LL. Cav. Alec Qlson lttachments 1935 Wesi County Road 82, Rosevilie. Minnesola �5123 Ro�fonn) Otliees • Dutidh / 6�c�Sneui 1 F c�ryus Fn11s! AAa� si �aii i Rachesier t Rosovilie Equul Op�wnuntty E»7ployot � ,,.. _ , Minnesota Pollution Control Agency Divisio❑ of Air Quality RATIOTdALE I'OR nESTGt7ATTONS � �..� � y :' �l'�-� Denignnti.ons of aCtainment and nonattainment areas were made for each pollutant on the basis of EPA guidance, ambient air quality data� emi�cions dnta, meteoroloEical fACtors, und tl�e control ctrstegieB whic?+. muAt he implemented 3n each tyge of area, Brief atatements are given below for ench pollutant. _ CARBON MOhO�ID� 23onattainmen[ designations wexe based on monitored violationa in the Twin Cities, Itoctzestez, St. Clovd and Dulvth. Regional and City houndaries were used for several reasotts. It is probable that widespread violations would be found in these areae �+ere additional monitors locEted near major transportation routes. Although there are locations within these areas which probably meet CO standardc, the traffic which creates CO violations ori�in- ates tl�roughout the nonattainment areaE, The emission offset poZicy Uhich will apply in nonattainment areas wi11 not assist in xeducing C0 concentrations due to the £act that the most siguificant sources of CO are mobile and non-point saurces such as mntor nehicle traffic. Using city and regional boundaries-to define CO nonattain- ment areas will facilitate the application of workable CO reduction strategies aimed at mobile and nou-point sources. NITROGEN llI0%IDE No uiolations of NO2 standards have been recarded. Therefore, as directed in guidance frott EPA, each AQCR in the state is designated an attainment area. OXIDANTS Althougb oxidant violatioas have been recorded sporadicallp in azea� autside the Twin Cities� Minnesota's major sources of oxidants (hpdro-carboas) are Socated in this region. Botl� mobile and point sovrces can be addressed most effectiveiy on the metropolitan level. Agplqing the emission offset policp in the rest af the state would not reduce oxidant levels significantly because violations are due to transport £rom �ajor sources in tha T�ain Cities and outside of Minnesota, Microfiche containing monitoring data for 1975-77 are enc2osed. PARTICULATES As req.�ested by EPA� nonuttainv�ent areas were divided into those not atYaining primary standards and those attaining primarp but aot secondary. This classificntion Fas based on monitored air quality data, und the extent of ttanattainment areas �.as determined by the presence of.major point sources as well as monitored viola- tions. SUI.PHUR DIOXZDE NonattalnMent designntions were bnsed on monitored air quality violations. Bou»daries were located on the basis of violations of standazds, locations of mssjor point sources, and the nced to control non-poinC as well as point sources of SOZ in bringing an r+res.into complinnce witi� standiirds. Area sources and mnjor point sourcr.s ir muny p�rts ot u nonattninaent area can crente bt�ckground concentrn- tions �ahl.ch contriUute to violnciona recorded nenr the mast eignificanf sourcca. _ _. � �. STATP, QP MINNESOTA � - i GEOGRAPHIC DESIGNATION OY AxTAINMENT STATUS (Section 103, CAA Amendmente o£ 1977) ., ,F,��'D Geographic Area Air Qua7.itp Control Region �`i31: Aaoka; Carver; Dakota; Hennepin; Ramsey; Scott; and Washington Counties. City of Duluth City of Rochester City of St. Cloud Remafnder of the State CARIIDN MOA'OXIDE Primary Un- Std. Standutd clessi- Attatn- L�xceeded fiable ed Summary o£ Supporting Infozmation $ Nfonitored air quality data for 1475, 197b, and the first two qusrters of 1477. � � Monitored sir quality data for 1975 and the first two quarters of 1477. Monitored air qualitp data for 1475, 1976, and the first two quarters of 1977. X Monitored air qualitp data for the last three quarters of 1976 and the first two quarters of 1977. � Insu£ficient data. AOTL: The Afinnesota one-hour standard (Pximary and Secondary) for CO is 30 ppm, while the fedezsl sCandard (Prinary and Secondary) is 35 ppm. The State and Federal 8-hour standards are the same. Violations of the 8-hour standard have been recorded in all the nonattainment areas designated above. �s i2-zz-n � � . � `, ,. ' STdTE OF MIN1iP.SOTA � - . � �� GEOGRAPHIC DESIGT:t1TI0N OF ATTAINMCNT STATUS .," (Section I03, CAA Amendmeats o£ ].977) NITRQGEN DIOY,IDE Primary Un- Std, Summarp of Std. Es- classi- Attain- Supporting Geographic Area ceeded fiable ed Information State of riinnesota Lmg 12J2/77 X No violations recorded; therefore, ac directed in "5tate Guidance, Geographic Desi.gnation of Ateainment Status," the entire state is designated "atCainment." .,,,.. . S1'ATE DF lt7fiNESOTA .. ..4 ... . . � ; s. _/ Y ,L ., �� GEOGRAPHIC DESIGHh.TTON 0E ATTAINMENT STATUS --� (Section 103, CAA Amendments of I977) PIiOTOCiiE*fICAL OXZDANTS Primazy Un- Std. Summary of Std. Ex- classi- Attain- Supporting Geo�raphic Area ceeded fiable ed Information l+ir Qualitg - Control F.eg. 131: Anokaf Carver, Dakota, IIennepin, Ramsey, Scott, & Nashington Connties Remainder of the State X � Monitored air quality data for 1475, 1976, and the £irst tiao quarters of 1977; inventory of major er�is- sion sources. 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' btiNhfl Af'OLI;;, NINIESO7A SD440 BACTERIOLOGlCAL RCPORT F�RM READ I�1STnUCTi0N5 O�a DaCK�OF LAST COPY� � _,r_._..�._.._.__ , PURLtC VYATER SUPPLY DA7A Pw5 Iq �'_;I,'• ! 0 5 3 0 0 0 , 14 � - 8-9 f043 � � - " r'� . :.. V heme i: % (f�� f�. -!. .—t' . � � �.aa,es5 '-'f. - ' � " ! % =i'J %i , . ��'��.� V � � /�� : ! 6_J" _.:;1.." 7 City /"`� ! (/L- ..- . 2ip l _i .� � ! �l Y 4County ��i./ �/\ `� PhOne r`�� - ANALYSI5 DA7A (TO BE COM�4ETED �Y LA81 . �RESULT ANAIYZED '� ,:'.� � �-: 0 0 0 0 gY' "' 0 0 2 2 0 0 5 1 n,�rHOO o o s z DA7E ,NrD7� � ' � 0 1 6 0 mo av rr .� 3 D 3 0 2 0 0 7� ��-1--r-r- -. te.tia i�=za zi zz-¢7 fRF p sas' � On 14.76 � t730 ' 21 . . SAMPLE flEJ:CTED 8EC0.USE: QSample Too Old QSample `iot In P�ope� Container QSample Leaked Ou[ � �<_ SAh1PLE DATA iT0 BE CO.'.�o�ETED BY SUPPLIERj r � ` LOCATION LOCATION ;� I r �� -� � � � CODE , hA:dr;•� • .� t__L�� - � 263J � .ii� pATE ' a., y, TYPE 71ME `'_ �_' ��T'' ❑ �-�-� � 9�36 . � 37 3d�ai ' i . �� I .0 2?� 6 0 COLLECTED / /�" � a2.au � OY: � CNECKEII BY: AFPROV[D OY: � \. w . . f . a: 11 _ • t' • . .r' , �,,,. F' ' a �, S't'AT� OP MINN89lYT.� p�PRRTMEt�1i OF t-l�.r\i.'ff-i t�x i rn r•x�aiay ci�� co,,:�i� c/o ts.�rvtn Axvnnzlit Clexk � � 643I iJniv¢rs3tti Ave. *7, E. � �`;�, Tridiay, tJinne3aW 55432 �� Daar Coe�rci2 L+aaaarst � �. a. , ,�2� t�e are enclosin� a co�q of tna re?ozt of ouz district o�fica aoverfag an imresti�ation os` your ravnicipal aat3r �nyply. Zf yoss nave anq quasttan.9 concarnln; tha inFoz:�atian contaicso3 in th3� report� �lasse co�auaicata Hitn z;ze 3tenhen Je Crai,g, Sa�,t�sr;,an� :Sianaaota Jepa�ent of Health. Xenrs vezp tzulYp � Garp S,. Eng2urzd� Chie£ SecCion oi PabiiG i;atsx SuppYiao i::.clo�ura cc: �J�. C.�. 'turba!y I?e::�1Lh 0�':ic2r Mer2e I,on;erboncy S+a�az 3u; :�zintendent AN �QU.11. OP�ORTUh�7Y I;MP40YFFi 0 c � ' t�n��rr�sc.^� nLFna•r«::�L Oi' f!.£.AL`1ii , ; Di�trict l4et.ruppil.Caa ', , ° � Hinr,ea op 11s , lli.nnesotu " � ;' . . . �, , r�y� ` Report on Investi�ation of 1Sunicipal i7ater Supply '= • F�ridl� , Idinnesota ,. . 1far�e of F7ater Suppl,y Systera ridle7 Mu�icxpal Water Supp I!u„ber Clerk (office) 57I-3450 Clerk (home) Location (city, covnt3 Fridlep, Anoka County {d2ter Superintendent f Mcrl� I.on�erbone B D oi rrevious Survf I/21/75 We11s � � Adopted �. Storage list separately, ind 5Q0,000 �allon elevated 1.5 Million golloa gYOUnd :1.0 Y.ik7.ion galloa ground 2. Plant Classii'ication a � ldater Supt. (office) 57I-3450 Water Supt. (hor_e) 5. Perscn Contacted _ t4erle Y.ongexbona 'icatioa 7. ?opulation 31�568 >ulaiioa Served 11. Service Coni ,000 � 6,6G4 5. Date oP Suxvey 2 S 77 c;,ions � 12. G�anership Manicipal �{ �dopted with perLti.ts 2nd inspections :tir.� canacit;; of eacn) �, }iaximum Aa7,y Consucption 14 .p� i...T:eat�ent Used. X� Disinfection gas chlorine X� Aeration except �'s I� 12� 13 X� Filtration pressuxe sand excapt � Co o^�ulation'��g z� 12� 13 • � Taste and Odor - . II Rec�:rbonation � . rtrcx� 3 m� PJot adopted 0 X� Asmoniation � �'�' • � . . � Softening . '.. : .� Sedi�entation � I'luoridation hydro-fluorosi2icic uc3d X� Corrosion Controlp�lpp�ospate ,�`�s 2�12l13 and Stabili2ution � bactcriolo�ical/mo & � Otl�er (describe) c.:lorine [astinz ____ ?, t•Jell De�a�' + t a) t'ell it;•aber 1 2 � 3 4 5 6 7 8 �_,__..._ b) Year Installed 1957 1961�1Sbl�19b1419o1 .t954 196G�1956 c) Cnsin� Diameter, 16 1G 1G 16 15 2U 12 12 d) Cnsi.^.� Depth 3S4 675 752� 653 655� I53'� 1�?, 138 '----- e) Well D�p:h 925 II?,2 S7Q &�0 t'4'i� 2.`,J 7G2 265 -- »--� r j—.°---- ------ f) 3creen Len�th - - �� ^ � _ ---y �) Static Leve1 B9 75� G3 57 152! 55 65 65_ hi Drn�:do',:a 105 129 !9 F -`5 0 36 �: - -- — �:� —` ;,z—, . �•L _:-- -,`_ _'vt ve i} Yu��tir (lype Pc cap.� --.00{F.00 �t�•:'.l}1Cea ie,�oitoao�_ic,cx�iic>� P,i�port �:cll lo,^;: on ::••y:rrLc :hcet, i; r.v�.i?ablc. � 12 264 19� , 63 3 t� � � � vZ ixi i2� � 470i1970 19 2t+ 24 2 25 233 19 � h� �27G �3J �« , .. 20 � D9 � v ;-"v t- 200 1: n;� � • . ~l ' � p � , �`� al;; tical Data ' ' _ � y A. 8acteriology , • �Satir.factory — Ito co2iform or,;aniscis Were Sou�d in the snm�les (see attAChed analytical data sheet). �Unsetisf'ectory — Colzforrs or�anisz�s were tound in the samples (see attrsched nnalytical clata :,heet) . _ B. C!ie�i.cal �SaAples were collected for chemicul er.amination (see attnched analytical data sheet). . �17o s2�ples were collected for chemical exa�inztion at the time of this investi�ation. . � 7a �j,ng� A. �'i'his water supply co�p].ies substanti411y with tbe standards of the Depart�ent. �This water suoply dces not con.roly ant� re�y c�ith the standarcLs of the . Depart�ent. B. 96 Estimated n�erica7, ratino oi this supaly coxputed on the basS.s of Z00 �oints for co:�olete corapliance (see attached :atin� sheet}, 91 Estir�ated ratin� that mey Ue achie�ed by czrrying out the recomrenciatiozs under item 22. • . R�ec-�endations , �,'hen ho�es wiCh private ueE2s with3a th� city aze added to the Y.uniciDal Suppl.q, eare shouid be taken ta avoid ereaeiag cross�connections bet�sen tUe pxivate . srells and city water supplp. ., F2uoride J.evels should be adjusCed slightlq to fall xithin the secolaaended range oE 0.9 eo i.5 pF:a. , T:ne oppoztunitp for additional traiaing in vaCer supnlq work shou2d be made avatlable to Che ooerators. Atter.dance aC the anni:al S7ater Norks Operator's Sc�ool, hald in tlie ;ietropolitaa area! is a vali:ab3.e expexience £os anyonp e�gaged ftt Chis field. zt C?:e C:t�;s of the im�:stiga*_�on, wells 1 and 2 uere inactive� �ells �0 und lI r�ere uadcr repair' and well 7.3 had uo batteries for starting. • Stephen J. Crnig, Sanitazian &noiroc^ental Fxcld Services Approvad: Roman J, Koch ' Supervisir.g Saslitaxian £uviror_ecntal H'icld Sezwices r!!� . , ,. , a . :.. }dIN1iFS0'tA D[PARTI•1EN7 OF NEAL7H ., Section of Water SuDD1Y and General Engineering i ; d� '' Sanitation 3afety Ratizo of ��dley ',`later Supply Dat�� Fabniary 8r �.977 (A) Source Sanitary Safety 1 A3equacy of treatm=nt � Bacteriolopical auality Physical quality Chemical quality Biolooical quality Adequacy of quantity ______.._r_______.________.._ _ __..._.... Sub-�otal A..>w.a ndi»atment Pactor deditcted (B� prime Hoving Equipment SYell or intake Fumps Piping arrangessent Reservoi:s EQuipm�nt nou�ing `-�---- 3ub-total Hazard ad.�uslm.ant fector deducted (C� Distribution System Street mains Building services Plumbing Hydrants Storage Pressure Tap water ouality - Sub-tota Anzard ad_�ustment fnctor deducted (D) Qperation and ODeraiors � Control of syste:a � Condition c: : }•ste:r � Op�rator •{usili!'ic•:'ions� ..._ .. ....___.__........-••--'.......__ ..................:. ' Si��-totll ! � ilnzard adlLLStment factor deductecl � Perfoct Ae Aa Score Found Reeomnnded 20 10 2 4 2 2 4�J 8 7 5 7 z J VO 0 5 2 3 1 4 2 3 2Q I 20 10 2 3 z 8 � 5 7 � 3 k le5 �r � 1 k 2 IO 2 3 2 8 i 5 7 4 1. 5 2, 5 1 k 2 3 See P.ecorxrand4t ion No. In Fttached Report 0 I I �{ � I� I 3 3 3 2 2 � 2 5 5 5 3_._ -?---- � °�� , i .� — GRhNp TQTAI ANO RtTING ?OJ �;� - - �l� �] ---_L___-- �__ ._ . �D nnd-um�.h�A - hl�h �L�.:^e o� s•�fety. Nntchtl�l mnintrnnncc ner.�ed. � HS to AO - m<*lerntcly h1;h de�ree� of snfr[y. Carrect.ton a�d m�lutrmincn pro;;rnm cantinur.d. 70 t.� R4 --pour to d,im•nrous conAltlai. Prmm�t corrnetivo ncLlon urg��ntiy nucdrJ. � �. � 1afHiiESO'�k UEPAH7NENT OF HEALTtI r,-. UIYISIOH OF ENYIR�84�HTAl llEAlitl ' ° " ht�n�Y r icn� �n-rn " ; �� ; � ;t^_ I�an J. Crai;; Report To t:(etYOpolftan " np1r5 ColieCted Dy � hclA Tovo, Couocy, Etc. �� Samyliay Point aaA Source of Sam�le �� mbet e -rid2c-�f Anolw County t.unicihal :7e11 ;�2 D �ridlcy, Anoka County �'.unici?al 'de1L jF4 . ' c 'rfdley, Ano'�ca CounCy t•lunicipal ue1L ;�5 a z3dlep� Ano+� County t;unicipal 'dell ;,�6 ' zidley, Ano'x.a County t-;unicipal .%eIl ;r`7 ____ i 'Xidley, .tino'ca. County 2;unicipa2 '.:eI3 ;'3 s li�e tor Lab. use�only. � ' a b � c d e P7c.'.:t.eer 5557 55�3 � 5j59 55J0 5561 5552 � .ifon H.^.N. p>c 100 in1, rup�_'� Coo. ❑ Comp. G� ess as ts CtC zse _ L_ 0 de al Chlorioe � _�:ide tRl PAOSp __,.e tiit e Elue Aceive Sub. as d3S as CaCO� �ca Coad. t+m�os/Rn @ � ��.; ❑.,. {� nitti��rcns ter litr,r cxcrPt r.< r.ntnt. < 0.23 { 0.23 , M{NItESO"th Dkf'hRlIiEH7 UF fIFhLTif AIVISIDA OF ENYIkONHENiAL IlEhLTH — n�tn�vT�ca�. anTn ' ` "; �� ; np1PS Collected lly a�eohen �'. CYai; _ nrporc To t�letxo�olitan -"' , 'ield �� Tova, Couotp, Etc. Samplin� Poiat aud Source of Sample '� umbPf erid3ey� ��nolca Couaty t�:uaicf.nai T.7e11 ,'r'9 � . :ridl�y, Anoka Coun[y 14unfci.nal 17e11 ;r12 , Fr�d2ey� Ano'�c.a Coun2g C��ns Pze PiIL•cr, H.i7,.5. • � Frf�lag, Ano2ca County Corsmns Post Filt?r, :d.S7.5. s lice 1�r Lab. use ooly. �le 1l�m[-ar e Collected :e C,o.tls<,ed aerz[u.-= oF.. e Reteiv>d 6Y La�.� ,i:nrm " ° N. �per ]OD ml. ivp__ G�n. O Comp. ❑ �al har� katioit v;1ue 1p ¢ganese :oride al PAoe+horJn � sitc !:::ro;c� fs:c .l'�;ro ¢a , q�{{TiYn ,•cl^^.� :1ve Ar.!ive Sub. as ARS cicz r.• :a:A1 ium ac6i u-1 c. Coa'. p�5os/cm H 2i oG 5553 SSi4 - 5.b6 5557 2 3 '17 � 3 7? � " ° 2/3%±7 2/0/77 2/3J77 2 3 � �. 2 � 2. � � . __ i j .� r.r�• in �ilti�ra�s Ter fi:rtr ct�ccp.• :• r4tcd. .35 I .05 DIVISI071 UF ENYIKOnt�r.nin4 ntn��n . . . A2iALYY f Cdt D�7A ;' ' , ^�,.�� i1P$ Collected ify SL'c�hr�n J,. Cra3? Anport To HfeCr000liCan � V ° y;; '[o•an, CaunLy, . f.tc, � SampLIug Poinc ard Sourcc ot Sxmpl• -, rria�.�y, And�ca Count� tiudson St�Cion-ili�2n+ay G5, tf.id.S. , Pridlay, Ano'a.1 County Civic Ceatcr, IMU,S. � .___�___ F li:? for Lah. use onlp. " > t;�-�5�r 557u 5575 5576 _��,_ „� Eec?i•red_�y Lab. [o;-� 4. °. N. Per ]06 r.l. ;� ^ � Con. � Comp. O e., � S(. e^. f_ nPr l0U nl. lisi:r' as se riL? .;�z � i'_os�ho[us ..- :.:t�axn 5'i�_P '_lue ?.ctive Jub. i.:-. .. _,._.. . Cc_d. I'aSos/cm ;n �- I �. :•i..°i. •. a,,a ^illia�rnns 9.r ti:cr except as rqtrd. �-.. . . . . �... l , a FTLL TN THIS PAR1` '�Y�� ^ t�.unicipality: .,�l.c. �,G�•>-9y (Provide address on Date Samale Collected:� `J �-� other side of card) 7our Fluoride Test: � Treated 4iater, �•,.i mg%1, Samp2ing Point ., ' ,. j7�� ,...��- DO NQ'1 WRITE TN THIS SPACE �1 r��'? � .. ; �, - Resul'ts o�' Lab Test: Iab I�o. � Treated llater � 1 mgfl Date / Reported��ti/� °7 �orrective Action Recommended: �`-�-� �� 1. t+''Current fluoride treatment is satiafactory. tc:.:ite :a 2. Fluoride shauld be increa�ed to 1.2 mgjl. ,J G 2`1 `977 ( 3• Fluoride should be decreased to 1.2 �g/1. AWllY71CLL Sf�VICFS � .� �' � e . � ; � . "± : ri� �.. � , ..�. , : � � 70: Anoka Cuunty tlunicipal blater SuopTies FRO;d: Robert !1. Hutcfiison SU3�ECi: Safe Drinking 1Jater Act _ . , ' r� , -�� . Enciosed is a copy of a surnr�ary of our llarch 9, 1477 meeting t�ith Paut Johnsop of the f•1inn2sota Depari,nent of Health and a capy of our request far a price q�otation for the joint p::rct�asing of laboratory service, . The request for price quotation ti-;as sent to nine corr�ercial laboratories. ' 41e have receivec� price quotations fron eig`rt 1a5ore,�ories and one has indicated that he cou7d not provide the type o; services requested. The quotations received are as foila,as: .• Pri c2 ' ' Laboratorv " — Env�ron. Pratection Labs., Inc: , Feed Rite Contro]s, Inc. Nealy Labaratories, Inc. Hickok & Assoc., Inc. Piedallion Laboratories,Inc. NatiunaT Riocentric, Tnc, Se�~co Sanitary Enc}ineering � i.aboratories Inc. 'Twin City 1•tater Clinic. 2.fi0 a.00 2.60 3.95 2.60 � a.�� 4.50 2.55/3.45 10.Q0 r„s D2livered to lab/Picked up.by tab �*;•1Pf� Ptost Pro6able Number '� AiF - biembrane �i 1 ter. � - * Unspecified- Method not specified � Review of the foregoing indicates the quotation of Healy Laborai:ories, Inc., s•rould be the ��.ost advantageous to us. If you concur and wouid like to � participat� in this service, please complete th2 attached order forn and return it t� us. Upon receipt of order forn, r:e t�rill complete the arrano�- r�ents t•iith �he ia6oratory. If sve are going to begin this service on July�l, 1977, these forms should be returned to ma by Jun2 1, 1977. Rt�tH : al b • 0 ' ' FlI7o1Ji COUFlTY ^ hlunicipal tfater SuPP�Y � Authorization for Joint Purchasing of Laboratory Service • Ju]y 1, 1977 - June 30, 1978 � 1. t9unicipality: CITY 0� FRIOLEY•� Address; 6�}37_Universitv Avenue FI.E. ' TeTephone:. r71_345d - " , ,. II� � :. _ 2. In case of positive coliform sampTe or other question contact (A. Primary, S. Alternate): � A. iJzme:. Richard N. Sobiech, Pubiic ldorks Director AddT�ess:� Cif- ofi Fridley � � - 6431 University Avenue l. . • . Fridley, htinn. 55432 Telephone: 571-3450 B. Name:_ Ralph Volkman. Su�eriritendent of Public t�lorks Address: Citv of Fridley fi431 University Avenue N.E. Frid1ey, P4inn. 55432 Telephane: 571-3450 3. Send biliings to: . tlame: Ralph Volknan, Superintendent of Public 4lorks Address: City of Fridley • n�verslty venue . . Fridley, itinn: 5's432 telephone: �71-345� 4. ilpproximate nunioer of samples per month �� ; to be collected Tliursday mornings as follot•�s 4th Thurs.��. lst. Tlturs. �; 2nd Thurs. 7; 3rd 7hurs.��; �5• 5�;�+plcs ��iilt be deliverecl �y noon on Jay of collecCion to ti:hicit collectio�i }�oint: Fridley f•tunicipal Guilding ✓ Ano};a Co�nty Health Department U. It is our desire to parCicipate in this joint�purc}iasing of laboratoiy SCl'V1CC: ./ � ( j� `� yes no g�qncd: f 1.��v V i�--r.�/i� ;, • . � _ r,^. '�-C .r-.�_. � �.� _._ • f�os i t i un � C � �'.� �,G-�;.:., �:-.' ct3:�L'e •�'�t' - 7 7 ��.v_ r` � �� : Q2 MINNES�TA NISTC7RICAL;SQCIETY - 690 Cedar Sfinef, Sf. Paul, Minnesvta SSTOt •.612-29GT7I7 Mr. Jerald Boardman Planning Director City of I'ridley 6431 University Avenue N.E. Fridley, Minnesota 55432 Dear Mr. Boardman: 21 I'ebruary 1978 RE; CD FY 1977 Fridley tiousing Rehabilitation Program M1IS Refexral rile Number F147 The project described above has heen reviewed pursuant Yo responsibilities given the SCate Histotic; Preservation Officer by the hational tiistoric Preservation Aat of 1966 and the Pro- cedures of the National Advisory Council on Historic Preserva- tion (36CPR800). This revie:a reveals the locaCion of no sites af historic, architectural, culturnl, or utchaeol.ogical significance wiChin the area of the proposed pzoject. There are no sites in the area e�hich are on the National Register or eligible for inclusion on the National Register, and, therefore, none which may be affected by your proposal. RWF/fr Sincerely, s e Historic Prese�GaYion Officer fouiidc,d 1t349 • 1'he oldest institution in the sWte . �,;,. .. ' AT7ACNP4ENT. G PUBLIC NOTICE Qf FIPJOIMG Of NO �' ` SIGPlIFICAN7 EFFECT ON THE.ENVIRONMENT . ; :�� I3Y: City of Pridley� 1�iinnesota 6431 University Avenue Plortheast fridley, 1�1innesota 55432 (612) 571-3450 TO ALI. INTERESTC-0 AGEP:CIES, GROUPS AND PERSONS: _i The City of Fridley proposes to request the U.S. Department of Nousing and Urban Department to release°Federal funds under T�it1e I of the Housing and Community Development Act of 1974 (PS 93-3II3} to be used for the following project: PROJEC'f: Fridley Housing Rehabilitation Project PURPOSE: Rehabilitation Grant Program ' Housing t1aintenance Code Inspection Program Housing and Pfatntenance Resource Center LOCATIOV: City of Fridley, County of Anoka> State of �9innesota PROJECT C05T: �140,000 It has been deterrnined that such request for release of funds tiaill not constitute an,action significantly affecting the quality ef the human environment and, accordingly,the City of Fridley 1�as decided not to prepare an Environmental Impact Statement under the National Envitronmental Policy Act of 1969 (PL 91-190}, The reasons for such decision not to prepare such Statement are as follows: The nature of the rehabili,tation project taill not significantly effect any applicable standards or plans of the Gity, or have any detrimental effect on the physical elements of the neighborhoad, or have any detrimental effect on service delivery factors, or historical, social or human factors. An Environr�ental Review,Record respeciing the within project has been made by the City of Fridley rihich documents the environmental review of the prnject and more fully sets fiorth the reasons tiahy such statement is not required. Tf�is Environmental Review Record is on file at the above address and is avaiiabie for public examination and copying.upon request, at the Fridley Civic Center between the hours of 8:00 A.M. and 5:00 P.hi. No flm ther environmental review of such project is proposed to be conducted, prior to the request for release of Federal funds. Al1 interested agencies, groups and persons disagreeing �•�ith this decision are invited to submit written co�ents for consideration by the City of Fridley to the office of the Ptayor. Such �vritten comments should be received on or before f�tarch 10, 1975. Atl such co�mnents so received will be considered and the City of Fridley will not request the release of Federal funds or take any administrative action on the stated project prior to the date specified in the preceding sentence. Publish: February 22, 1978 41ILLIAPI J. NEE, Fil1YOR G�431 University Avenue Northeast Fridley, FtN 5543? ` . ` ; " .� ATTACHMENT G� ; .. �' .. , .,� �j� F'ndlrg. K,nnesota. Acrnm� ::orlln.asl. mSOI'a +5431 �Gf2) F:tiT PD Af:EtiCIPS. b rc- linusing anA Comrnum�.: heveloy. • mc�i Acl nf 19�i �PS ;7-JR�� lo Le used ior Ihc luCcx im; hreji��1: YROJF:Q; Fndlcp Nncsmg Re� . hatililntion 1'rnj�•,[. 1NINU5E; RenabiL�a[i,n Grant Progr.im. H�w>iuG lfair.tenzrr� Code Jnspeclinn ProFrum. Hou_<mg e�d pfairtenanee Rex�urce Cer.tef. an �� rreo:+re an YoYCy AcI ol 7!W9 1 PL !'I-i kU. ihc reawn;. ter sud� O��cision nnt to preparr sucli Stalcmcrt a:r as faF fox�s: The naturc of Ihe rehabili�alinp p:uj��ct �:i:l nnl sig�c6��an:i� •;tec[ an}• spplicable star.d;:rd. or p!an' o( ihe Cil}�. or �iave anv de!rimer.tale4 fecl m Ihe phyeical clemrnL of thc respecfing Uie �cilhir, pruject has been �naAc 6p t!•.e Cif; of fridley whic4 d�nimeRt; tl�e emjronmental CPVIPN' OS lIR y�Ojetl dlxl i00�C (Vlly scls (or{h the ressr.r,s �.:tn� euch statemcnt is not rrquin•J. SBis En� vtrmirncutal Hccie',r l:�ccrd is un file a110ralocc addn:� ami i.: a�'ad:�bk foi pub@c esaminnt7en :uv3 copcmg upon re4ucsl, ai Ilie pri:lvy liric Ccnlcr Len�-irn Ur: Lours a! 8:00 A.lf. aM 5A0 P.nl. No f nrlhrr em�irnnmeinai rrrie��' nf SUCh ErujCd is pnq*��J I�� h cun- duct�d.�prL,r in LL+¢ rrquvsl fnr re- ieasc ol h'Maral tunds. All inirrested apem•irs. grnupc atd persas disat,n�in� uilh tpis deci- biun are inciteJ lo suMmt xtiltM Commfn�s inr Yansider.-�t�nn he Hw Ciy xf F'ridleg 1�+ �h:• uWro n( 1hC Fla)�nr. tiucii e:�:uon .,-uvw�nli ,.�ruLl�l,�� ir�.�:i�rd � .�r b.b�rr A1:rtrhlu.l:�ti AI!:ui�..:�.nnnlssn R��vtirrd uiil ly� c.�r..�.t.�r.d anf tAc Ciry' nt I'r.�qer udl �ut rc.�i:.si �FK r�� Irasc u( Fnter:d fu:Wc a: inko am� adnuah.tuiu.�• a.o,..,,,i iL� .i:�;r,l ympet pru,r n.tSr dafe:{�r.dirJ m Qtc p[ed•df�p ..�n:r�u•r. 1CILLI.\'4 1 XF.i:. ?lAwr H)i Uni��er>n.'.4cenne.FF. }'nd1; c. >IR Si� �Frb.?..ly:Fi ?BB Mdnn Co. RESERVE ,- ., - . 85 °;� "o��;�,�...ho�,., �� f-� � • � Faryo,N.D.,5B102 . . - .,. ... . ' . � •- .-�� i ' �C802M�nAv� S U P P L Y � �,�., 60, � --- --- �. .o�:.. � � � � ' 1735 Krame� 5�. I ❑u COMPANY _f1��i �,;, � ��l��'�_ �� , �71��au �� _- o,��a.M,��..s�so '" - � _ --.-� 728 N. Cetl,ir _ � . . . --._. � . , . . - . _ � .... $iaux Falls, $.D., 57101 � . .._ . �_ �,.:.,:,�:.. 7005.<�hAve. 5110MAlNST.N.E. • FRIDI.EY,MINNESOTA55421 • PHONE: 6t2-5£0-5100 Mailing Address: P.O. Box 1372, Minneapolis, Minn. 55440 February 21, 1978 �on�,onco.,inc. Mr. Richard Harris Nor�� D8ko18 �8�� City of Fridley na,ieawmcerco. 6431 University Avenue N.E. n�,Mmnesom Fridley, MinnesoYa 55432 t& Monon W. Johnwn eA Builtlin0 ��em Mlnneao�e H. KINMr nxJOrpenaen Bldp. qr. CIaIre. Wisconaln ore e.. Sswy., rGlea�orlumberCOm eapo116, Minnaeob J.SehmW W mDer YaN, ln0. , Mlnnuote ISchwnsman � neman BrmTera Co. Dear Dick: The Fridley Chamber of Commerce had their Board of Directors meeting today and I presented you and Dick's recommendation that we probably dispense with our An-noc Ordinance Committee meetings, since at the present time we would be duplicating efforts with the city. I also informed the Board that it was Dick's and your suggestion that after the city had completed their draft on the new ordinances that they be submitted to the Committee and to the Chamber for review and suggestions. The Board unanimously v4ted to ge along with you and Dick`s suggestions and to await your draft on the proposed ordinances. p�w a. sn.eny purhanLUmberCompany Therefore, Dick, we won't be having any ordinance meetings � J6en Va1teY� MlnneaoU i�s�� until such time that we hear from you and/or Dick, However, istlnpaLumberMan,lnc. 1f y0U should have any questions or suggestions or anything mu�os,nun�aeoia that you would like to talk about, please feel free to get in '°"'M.sp°"'. touch with me. We can either meet at your office or here, or �serveSUpptyCOmpany bby,M��enoce could even have a sandwich together. Yours truly, �(N t J. W ong RJW/dg �� ,nMx a�. r\ r�* s� ;e''. . t��at , the city. had �3� ` t�ro��a �e nronertv had bef !"�a ; norih end . 1'hey ��e, e xeeitients that this �t thin� the City of Fri+i�ey.' q, , Gh�- lease agre�mer[t a�rtr t•year ao that peopie cou,i so�e of the snowmobt��g a Couuty C}aat the Cd�is�ioaers, h�d 1 yti,d :�orkildeon,ayitecfinx of M;r. Boudreau's questicsns ie sts�eel th�t regarding Che � n� Monday through 'pl�urad rt$B Cify did and had List �t sa� �oint in time i,zt , e�lth:che M.A.Ei:A, llistr�et ��A.,;��d 9 higher gr3arfey Bqudre�u and the Coaim;iss£c �� fact,:c�"ing f�� th�.- �p, ac+d talk ouC ppesible laG-wonth areaa on the plan y zaiiieh shaitlfl eli;miaate 8 �atidieau �tatsd he'had ts r �, ? 1��8 ��' �� . S: y �.0 ;�,i��1ae unE3�1 Agril.lat: for t�ed;and a park£ag toC had ��ng a hrief artioYe in �°only tecognized, authorizsd' � $�y were urgfng peogle Co Rsl �e institnted at a-much '� t:{�come accustamed to:that :A,Locke Park and Rorth Park. c 8 cogy of the letter �te had parke & Recreation of pnoka sga�.ing allocations oF' ice `i4�o�tinn the co�n�s8ion � ry i�e times, I4r. Toxkildson � the, dates . Zir - To�liildaon she past, the Hockep and the pziorities were . This was a dif£erent �ere had seceived. Mr.' Bondreau :etter:was:that 2y:. Torkildsoa Eaiu&ivn��,. A�. B�d=eau kiag �eaard for the morthexn m� �f the pressures on' �l� Wi�h Mr. 3a¢k Hansen, =,=�¢t tit�y wofx� be �etiag wiLtX 1#;. Tockildson aAd h� '� i,°t�cr'Che �awmission at,:a 1aCeY �Y�. ' �Bd'to gage 2, paragragh,3', ok Hr. Torki.ldson's letter �Lc��itt-atated, `"I wquld aLi�a`i!e�me�ud that recreation Qat�ivue dfscuss wi.th -Ck��r. s�ools the gossibility of A�a �t :a€ Cheix athietic es�'Ct.'culum and allow thea� to a�,t�tseai the fiours of. 8�fl�f d:m. �ad 3:00 p.m.° ��?,��d-be concarned about thet as that was when. ��s� he in achoal. Sh� a�laed i4r.. Boudresu to cla�ify �� S1�e ��fi�yMr. Torlcildasa did n4t teil:how they came up C�es.' She sta�ed he had alffa mettEionad xhat prior to ' xeaia LI, �t�er.8 were skatexs usfsxg Lbe facility uatil de t}ceG n2eded the ice time wexe the young ones and tbere crr�.d .have them skating uatil .2�€1$ s.m. �y..�tg�a�led =by BeEty Tieeh,. ts� �eca#„ve Mr. Torkildsas�'s a�g,Zfl, !.9?8, . iipan a vbica vcte; ell votixsg a�,e, the aa£roaw8iy. =two�.e ..aF� rt..�- �Wv4v' .. . �...> «<i�a� � ... .+ t .._k r��„� .�'r_.+``-"5^dA T � � yy.. .P N �� . , � ; ., x �. . � . . �. , _ . ` `� "x : � :, �. . ?(y ' . . I.-._' „i � 6�:�iL�;CYtEATT�N CO1SiI5S�CkI -tgS�Si�tG t � ' �Lli�ltY 3U,� 197$ �� MENSBERS PRESENT: $n�in" S��ier, 3an Seeger� L�rRa�r�<MVOre, Betty Mech � �i�BEBS ��AB�ER£z So�f l�te�`s�, � - ' qTli$Rg pRE$BEiT:' Ch�rles,�budreeu, Parks &$�e�eation pfree.tor � ��k :TCir�" Prbgxam Directos�=��- � Pliehael atczen, Planning �ep�xtment. gay �,eelc,;,,�lanx%ing Aide Dan pllei�, 62'�tdBice Creed 1yt. Kathy I?f�.ae, 5170 Benjamin`:St. N.B. �ienti: VaB �Yalzezzi, F.Y.S.A. Pr�sidgnt B�t�ie �'t�an:, F.Y.S.A. '�,: � 3�3y. �Hep�st�.ez�, Gtrks' Bra�ba21 ; . � , a +r � . �' k F �I. Tb ORD�t- x • y ' � �ice-Cfiaixperson Suhrbier �;a�1Qd the meeting tp order at.7;4d �.m. �.. It�PROVAL 4P' JANIiA8Y=9, 15�a °��,5;& REL�R&A'liDl� CQI$�S.CS��QN= 1�iI�TEB: „ � '' , ,. . � p2�se. guitirbier ststed-that,�ta: p.age 5, fourth �ragraph,'the second �ehten�e sho�ld: read; ��3he #aid; �� &$nse�s, H.A.F. Preaident, 'had made a gaod point �> ia�tea he `said sanettting �t��2d be dorce to revfs,g the pa�iority so Gha� the ym3ngeY kids e�ld get se �ter 4ce time.0 ��7� bY H�tty MBt�, �etz�msled' by Leonaxd I+ff�!ore, ta ap}�rove ttEe * �ttua�y ;9, 1978, $�sks :5�`��xeaCion Co�+issxon minuLes as ameqde�; ,. tjpon a vvice vote,. a11 vo��:ng r�ge, the motioA c�ri:ezi uusnimous3y. • � ,, �4FpROVAL OF AGSNllA: '�e�foilowing two iLema �t�e added to the agenda; �atuxalist Positipn-- Ite� 5 under "p#re�Cor`s �vrt31 . 4oluutbia Fiefg�ts �o�uniestfng Conferenc� -��8m'� un,�ler "t{�w Bus�ness" � i p�Q2� by $stty �eth, seconded `6y L�onard �fooxe, tn approve the sgeriila with- >Che ahave two addi:tiqns: �ian,a voice vote, aIi vnting aye, the wpt3on r° �arrted unatximwsly. ' . . �� .i � � � 7 � . . . . . � � � � .. . - �i ' . . . � . �.�.i � � � =� ��= � j� z � � � T� _ . . _ i� �� . S : � � . ;:. ' �'. _.a't., �� .+.. .� .s;t`;,,�.#� _ , Yt,.., �T`�.c' .s ^�_'aY,.: v�': 3�`:'� �tr_ ,' . ��r �A�,-.'�_ � v..e... _.. . ., '�� 6 � that the g sho�w- what i ��c� ��m , tne �arxs & Recrea �eC; �'FYSk S�+�cer�� it� by � �Izea stated t�at ali yarit� :o�raged xo pazticipate. �¢ k:;Che ¢ost nf aieards, shorts,: ild k�a "C�eir shirt at -the, ei �[td Girls Softb811. B migk�t<aceur.oi cae a� i Qxplain to the pare� iEe in both.sporta {� % =�his soccer prc�r�. ai ��d they �id aot ha�re �s� gart of p�y ap� cy kit..i�YflPOBCd 8 �Hrn38e. i.�i �R �3eybe �some scrimag� ui the avmber z�,x� :he . ottter lesgue t,.as been.run the grevic xtg ia each diviei� ; `� ,. � � :�� :� � ' :�, i��s �a�s � p» 3 <£ � t�"^�n � . � . C �4 .'�." . . , ��sinted a dlrec[or, �uan Sa�.as, � �$i��man, Tom Kielsen, and They would be inqolved in �+�$��. ' Mx'. Van Hulaeu handed ex &ules and Regulations�(. He ire doiag with the soccex program ' Cite�, and wAat they could hoga- ' ome¢feeion. ge reviec�red the Ett the eemmission. i�[2e�,�hath boys�and� giris�- �� ioa fee was $S :OD, wkiich ,'�1 Ceam shirts, ga¢h partici- ��r: They hoped Co ragister "* ��tturday,��APr3l�8. They wc�id : �r�-S�be� Ruth Baseb$11, �E;#Ct1e� � � �� tttis; they hoped to elimiaate be�ng preferred over the other :�at they hoped to a11ow ehe i 8a desfre8. They reailg,wanted :eaY�,y try to get if o#f Che �. �. � � .. . '�:.'e " d�.fizt#te season dates get„ but U�t;tiesr the middle of Juue. `�_ 'a but it was verq"dif�icult For t�c�;�aX4ts they were gpis�g to hava.. _� F�eagn8, , tkey needed nur�i>ers , If: t�ey did not Set,�tough � � �Cicipaats plue gc�images � w�h snme vuzeide teams, gut, �¢ l.etared. ��e Tsavelicig Team situatinn. , yea�:6y Juan SaJ.as, �eho he�i Tlteg mere propcssing that ti�eir �B -3:ni�tructional pex�£od or � ;�;�petition, ge �e3t Cheg �e�s s lat..npaut tlse game b�' 8��1�,�Si�ed:in league games. ��8t?��en etated that the Minne�vCa;:�e�ia�_,St�ecer Associatioa did t!4?�Y� seheduYing and provided refe�ceea ff.orr:ell the games at a cost ��a7eimatelq �i.00-per partfcip�xtt ptus $5fl:0� (avg,} per team. .� , � � - `� , `�4 . . . � � .. . .� ; .� .. _. . � �' . n : ,� . _ _ . �� ` , � IF :, � e .. .� � . _ .. _ . . .. � . . � �� N_ � . �.. - _ . _ „, 'r.- - . . i .i �", y,..:. .. i . . s e -»d.� , z '. iL -: i . . ' . �� l.i� PARK$ t* �Bi�.FEE�STYQN L`f$»�i53�:(3N , � Al#4i%tRY.90, ;�9�$ { GE 3�"`� 3. inn�bruck Towckktouae �sscreiat�ian - 7,etter t�. Boudreau atated fie ,h� f3nalj.p go[ten a respon�e from �. Toicc Wil'ey sat Che Inttsbruck Townhau��,�,�tsgroo�ation dated Janua� 'k6, 1978; giui.ng gea�nis�ioa to clear Farr �1Ce fe+C:a sksting area fas �sa hg the I�nsisruck '�awnhouse resideats. P�m�ssiairwa� g�ven aimnst �ight dbwn the lit�� a� reqsaesteiS by them and tltaG Che G��y take precautiQa nok tcs disturb tk}e ibkacktep; Scs, as far as i4ac., $ate�lreau �enew, they had'3�eett cleaning a�:i the lake for use hq the -��s#den�t: o£ �fi�t area. �}t �ad also fiflod�d Che area as requesked bq ptis', .�uhrbi�'# n�.gHborhtaod. H� stated this was a,. , matEer of information tu �ha C�missl�ers so they would kstaw th9.s h�d been takeet care of and 1��#t, ho�e�ully� they wb�sld h$ve tk+e sa� permissi�. 4 t�ext y�er. , : k. Do�atioa - Harria L�1� flam�ker'� Club �1ecm#.�fer prase� h�, Mr. Botidreau stated th�;��[ris �a&e H�memaker's �Iuh had �ttend�d t}�e City Couttcil meetfng the �i�v3��'M�nday and wera Ic3ftd e�ough to make a $200 &emaCion to the devel� a�'t�1e'.garris L�ke prop�rt}*. Ms, Prasek h�s aCS�ed Ehis��Aapefuli�* ��.be an�=�mgoing;��t9Pe oi�dottation, that�t3�e� � �� ,. ; muuey raised £rom bake ssles,'�e�., wauld be ased towerd xbe'developmeut oE �� that park. � � Mz. grnidzeau staC�d he"h�1d-t�e� �t �4� City �oixaei.l, meeting and had, tYt�nked the I#arris I,ake �ame�ake�`a CY�tib. H�'stated k�e Khongtie tY�e Gomnission should be fnforeied that ".#�i�;�, . group was takisg pri.de in Chei� aefghbor- � hond. Iie staCed`'ttrar a��1s$ak �pu�lel:ter had'fieeit *a�i.ttien� ta;��them i�+-Phe: � �Citq 1�Sanager. � �;� : � �- � .� Ms. Seegex �tatetl stte ti�i1:a� 13�e to see thig have some gublicitp, It might stimulata some iaterest�rin the.:�her:neighbarhoca�is, and �t m£ght be a nice Fositive thiag cr,neing �� i�;}��ks =& Recreati4� Co�missian on what �taa h2ppetting in:Fridley.� ; ; �� i T4r. Btsudxeau atsLad tha•E �t �ht be better to favfte tha Sun to the �eeting= j wiEir"�he Iiarris,Lske tie�$�Sti. 'a7['��etd S�aup the.neict uwntfi. Pussiialy e;p^xc�ure ; could',be taken thea of �3}� � "ker's Club and thfs in��rmation cou�d he j repe�ted. � i 2+�YlE('aN �� g�tty i�ch; ��de�:b�r 38n Seeger, :that Mr. Baudreau wriite'a I tetter ta the $srria y�tce� ��aker's Cluh iha�iag thet�t for ki�eir ' enti�usissm, as well as th�fr��tkvnaCion., Upon a va�ce +�te, all vaC�ng aye> ' �� tke mati�n carried uuaaYc�a�s��r, �� ,� 5. iiaCUSalfat.Positia� t' � j pSr. Boudr�an atated Lhaft,th�g"were.sefll in ehe,pracess o€ lookin� for somet+ne to fill the pTa�tual�$t.}7osLtion and wuuld cout�aue taking app3ica- ti� hneF intarviewi�`utt�� th�y found the rigi�t ge�s� s;o �ill Lhat � pa�Yinn, Theq :had %ait agp��ttGffi ftom all ov�r the w��t�rS'. Th�y wera ' Laoki�, for that pesas�i �rtto �td +�o an outsta�iiag j�i a�d they wonid � ��not b�'s�tisfied witln�:oi� z�� io��'anything c�e., , .�,% � . _, ' �, .. �� , > e �� . i � '; ; � ` �: ' �� w §' ,� , � ,_a. w,7.a�.ua:ss,..:,.��sw.�v.,.'�..��z, = s� ��v. a'�':a"� s ae.. . � 3�t�. �,.;�a�.a:x'si.� �....�,t>��1 ,. ti . a . �.__ ti �ated to 'W.',°.� ' y ¢ !� kP :� Y, � : . a,;1978 - PACB b � -s+��tention information i3�'& Us;' a atimulating � �?Cf:�#s� actd adulte � Eo egplo� � �e,�,deas of hwman �� `_z ;5��at4�at►��ri�s -�[s€ttted by a task €�a� uced speakexs . �'he ��4�<i,tas ta he he�d MaTCh 2, 1978, ��.,, '` al Jr. High Schbvl, �Alt�� 3ieights: 'aud there was no ad�E�ikiv�.��: _ „< : .; , r�?.BB��SS: � � � � � � � � .t, ��-------�-�- ,,;_# �.�:'��eig�bz>rkood �teview of Park Plans - ��+ �ek :d;eau �ntrz�duced pis, Rathq Di.vine;snd �C:- pan qilsn to the �ommission. �+Te-'iuvited.to Ghe meetiag to heaz the reX�ew of the next step o£ what ��:�?as do3�4g �i.th'tha BQnjaarin/$�a�da;e aCea, tQ bring them up to ax�d .t� givEr tyzem scm�e examples qf„ 3t�,r'�e ^€ity had used thefr help e�her f�� rsopi� on the aauma��e�e�.,�. ai4 gtaSe$ �te,:4�ad Mz. $ransen wers'�t th� aieeting to show the Co�ission �'qx��. ��g an,d�;3��ro�they woulz� 1� tn'3zsm?dle the deetp�4st�ratYon ' pa�'�ttd��;i�. Se i�rynded out a sas�3�,e yf t.� kinds of gueatiznts and ,��;�a� �r3��u1d like to: haud ouE in.the.steighborhood to get resu2ts. t�8s-��s7,au �;. ', ��'des�ripti� of r�t k�e�y`�e�e-tryfng to do �in-�gridley ; i�de#'iatug=and redesi8nlfl8 of parks. F#�13.y, xhere was a ki� of �.t� "mche�uZed gtoceas, of the way tls�3t+aaa�at,e+i ta handle their initial, ian. I�t. 7,eek went over rh£� ,i�fteg� �#th the C�mfsaioners. � " e%`.act�te� t}�at firsG,>vas the deueiogt�pe�t �rf tbe que$tionnai.re: In sis�e,wiCk g�. g4udreau aad i�fr. �t4�il�•'tlx9�g.£elt it would'be ��al �ts c�#�: at,mgeC3;sg for z�t3ghh4rttort�d.ses�d�ats indicat�ng what i�&�:�ity 4�itienaied to do in Clteir aTe$.at��slso publicize it in the �`"f•ahLe.=TY� s� paop}:E in the ,��Cea �pu1d � that 'city empioyees d#��tg, to !xe ��it7�g qut to talk �p t�hent. pf�;sx that wauld acm¢ the �icm �s+3.,�tii�.�cttion of the su;vey, �hic� was anticigaeed to take c�.:�bca., �i��,�.y, they woul.d l�ke [# eai2'auother meeting o€ the 9Y1►ood.xe�fd�fl�s<�tr discusa the resuiCS ti� t�e gux,rey to.get further �t:�$s+ufi:�is� �.in: sv.hfch the �:rkushf+u�sl �.li� �decig�,d afld�� how it' '�e dev$I�tpad €or:p�aximum e#fectiveueas. .:�hey would auticipete $d;jst&ttqeTt�B-� t6e design Ear th�t park-e�1, hopefukly, wouTid do ns�a��t� ��.:park this year,. � �� ; �`. �� s�� t:after the fn�Ea�aa�ion �tas gatt�ered from the -� a�r;:'� �i0u wflt�ld come up 'w�>�It �,=.�Zqta�ype of ths �njamin/ �"�� t��tr$ �t3�=4nformation the:,t�:�r��n�' had�-�said the-y wa�ted. �$?ci�t l�ack- to atwther meeting witi� .ihe �esidents, they cuul�d �r:fY'�fd��►ts -Ehat was what thep had c�e �iip .�r3th, what did th�;y ��s�alflcR at�tott� iG_, and how wanld 3t f�€ =tA their neighborhao�2 ��at,pafnt,. tlrere was the fLe�clb.11ity to cisange the dasign of ths 'E�az ttcey wers looking for vas-totatl tag�.iro� the potential usezs ,� #q ths pienning stage and Ct�:2o t� development stage. �:z >-�c`.> ,� '� , i ,� '� A� _._.a.�:�:��,,:-� n'��': �: � �:�� Mr. Sfian i#�sFzen sk��ed � Depa�tmank to prs�le. C�x Z. payment of pa�t 2. properly mai,nC� practices and;,� 3. Provide refere� 4. Provide a totsY: Mr. Van Aulzen also st�� set of the M.J.S.A. ruY� nate, a£ Tfule �21 on the < Che FYSe� is ectjaqment wt� atrleast h�lf the game, Tf'a player does not pla contact the player's pa� of the participaCion ru£ disci[siine;�r Mr. 'yan � parttci�pat3on wae �1 in, Ms; S�eeger s[ated she fe mannes as they weze foz�" referees, but the irYSA � Mr. $oudttsau stated he sa alloe�ce up to $700 thi�i te�n s*�stem with the sGi at �atty gAi�iC i�i e1m�t:��3, geriod to se,e who.wqukd`; FoY�� ,.tE�l 3s he Th07 fihat tiae FjT$p wqu: goa�� t:tl',suother f T$r,-goud�eau sCated h ta '�ecfde on $1 or $2 `they were consistent the �easC a€ thp o£fir Mfi�itiN by Jan Saeges', re � i�dationa that; of the soccer progr�n hureed Ca fhe C£ty:"f Chree fieIds aud wow aud that the City w�s and' assign ttte oEffc catried unan3aiously: . . __ w�::�.�..-�,:�.�:'a�'�'.�.�,;.�:.. � �s r y <:: t�c, .r�r�vA�r s�, z97s ._.. �_.;�PA� 3 9O ; � �; wa8 askLr�g the Farks �C Ricreatio#� .�; . j ind team fees to Che,.M.J;S.A. � mazked:playing fie�ds ft�r all !! :i:e'i3'� requized7;; i' . house: league g8uaes ;} ;s o# goals i, :he rules and re�uiations wQre a madiEied �3ced the Commiss�yonezs t'o take speaia� :: ''"Lhe objeat of all games played caithi'ti rirtg soccer skills. A13 pl,ayers must-play: � p3ayer has been abse�t fzom praatice: .x half the game, the coach is exp0cted-to �j :xpla4n [he situ8ti,on. A. ViolaCOrs �:port to the FYSA Board iai pirector� for ;ed they we�e very a8amaut abaut t�sia. ' ;` standards. 'y :€e�ees ahould b� handl�d in the same j: ahd hocke�--th�_Cfty woulst pay the j �1�xu2. the referees 8nd set up the ruiea. � ��caamjend for Ytem.3 that C�e Caa�issinn j' £ar'xke entzy fees-into t3ie T3,J:S.A. triaoeling � tun"that no c�ne was elfminated from Che.p�gram , � p��-gea�on�scriue�ges not be used�as B�.C�g1 � �� he tir�veling teama. F`or I�em 2, he�ecl�i�# C wotil� try to cc�mtr up with a fouz?th „€=f-�id:' t �;that the �iLy ag3in pay the officialsy but € ��cia�.s and assj.gtt them. Thay way, ;(t was ?: �gup. For Item 4,'<he 8aid at fihis tim�, ? an8 Chey would nsst - need tfie £ourth SeC tai f�und. i �; , 31so t�comriefld that the Cot�iseiaa wt>�Ld i3a�ue .€; Cieipatit as a fee�reimbur�ement to-the �i�y so �'. rest of the prograe�s aud'to try to o£E�et, g � by Leonard 3qoore, Lo a�Ee with Mr. Boudreau's QO be allocated ta'the �"lfor the operatioet e stignlatinn thah aa one'�as elimiaated fz� �,�c; thati a$1 fe� �er gartinfpant be reim- ratimp c�osts; ti�a�, Ehe Citp arouLd main�ain „ c�e up with a fou�th E3eld and sets of:goals; Fee p�icials, but ehat the �'YSA woaid obtaiti cut ��oice vote,`all vat4o�'aye, the metion } � 7� � . � � t.':. . ��, .,a.'3.w_ � t. �� `5 �i ',.� {? s{a : kF .f �? _, ..,, 1`fs`a:.� ..g �RSiVa�. '+�y�ii�tf ° � �'vti 4`:e th� park.; These thf� r�y � 4+� . D#vine a� 1�'. A�.la�t `�� g�ttiug the v�ot�l os�f � ro ,t� #viae and Mr. Alian.agas� i abe�siand Mr.:Boudreau,�� s�rv„v :aeci c�er � d�. '�<a�ate ��y scere'r Ir�, ttieues Eqx ��.Edg2t Ra aw',`��18 �1Y'18 . F�9 �ba11 Orstanizatien - s� titat at--the 18et �eetia zaa afrout- the g�rls "> b'r� erad, hut when sfie €a� a took her daughter p��,` 14tt�I:costa far equi; ;�ring . ti� broombal l ,�mbeii psegram, Q7i� � r'�AL/ � �. - � ¢vWf+ Y� - . � �tsds, and the..�e�,cing �'!�1 snd people shcwld':�Se C�}r wauld be 4af,11iag t� G �ighbors of the CiEy's " � c�r so. �Ss. Divine aad �r.r�3.lan �. , t,� i er e� was a queation raised 2 cnate. This person`s t�e equipment was gp� ..�8 e program. The Com�af��,c� cumnbaJ.l people�. ta g�,�t � a at,ated i�. Iiengst��r>�as oti had eonsented to g��re " d�iie was really sor�y ibtes�.;�td been a lack of cc�anuni- n�t aure t.�ere it was'_. , gFee �, txied to be as helpful �o�m�tiou.€ar ehis Pe�Bt+�e:. 3� stated,as the eos�iss$on fgri costs were the ha��e��r,�.�8:they were for €boebal� k� ,�6 tht Hockey �ssd�t�i#ca#. ke.pt entitled the g,�r3.s �.gua�d, bookle� }t�ffli�mgg�c�, � some indoor ice time. � a11 the girls prctvi$a t.�� helmets an,d brooma. ;� zes�areh ec,tt�era�ng hal�ate and broans. She stated rv alar .siCuatioa, � g�, �ed sacte 13elmets that wer� �:alcruld have sold for; $1. So, ,Ghis parent could have k#sut �.t itas refused.:, &ite a�ated-that helmets did range a�.�4 aud some $2,SQ, ghe stated.R-Mart aolrl a very `" �#r ;$1Z. but s� rau ae �gk�: as $30: Broama .-�St tfl $3.5U, but ti�e $�.9U was better, p2us �'" ,': "the.broam. Those,wer� the requiremeuts for 4� -�0.±ever, they had beeri s�r�Sky recommendfng �hat }�'-�� Bkia P� •' IE 8�tt�iu�e had watched broo�all, '=�lse'se were. estremely iaupoert$af . Shin pads ran about and.elbosv pads were about $4..35, hut those wexe €wleclgQ, no'oae had ever been �old thaC thase were ' � �hSi bxoamball shos� we�g.,,�ptte�sexpensive--arouud t ot tts$ble for any othex�spnrt: They had already made - ��oombail shoe exchange �� year. gut, she stated, eoach h�8 ever told a gi�i'ghe aeeded broomball sho¢s, °; Ca sqoro�phi3e boois.,. She waa,not sure where the �6p . � : ; � � �� { ��<_ � < a � __ _ x . � _�_ _. ,._ _ . : z''�'i "- 3 � "� ',�'. "^� _ r �� > - 2 ,; � , .., � . ., . , . .. . y ..� .. .. .. .- .. y ._ L , - r� 4: �i. . ' � � . F•ARKS & RECREA2�f�1 �� JAt�EEi,AR� ',: 1978 P GE 7 v�`� pbs. pivine sCaCCZl th� �e`�tald�ettt �f the quest�yar�uaire would be very. "" important tp her. Wtite�€ st�e _�arl wna'�.ed on the �efghbarhood pro,ject :. covmidtte�, thep haci pr�pared tt quea,�ionnaire e�d she had personally put these into the Aomes.: The r�sponse was very gdar and she had beeh disappointad. Mr. =Le�ek atated that �eY;we'�e p2attniag cm kn�k#ng on doors, an& ttiat , was why the City was cont�ag�#atfng";hirin� -eanetitte.io perform Chose tasks fulL-time, 'Phey were:�a�aifzt�'that by send'xr�g the interviewer out `vrith a' 25-3� minute intervi,evv, -r�Sey;�cauEd ,get IQOX respvase. :� Ma:, S��r stated tha� �3t� ��sti�naf re would .#�v� to try to soften �ke ' barz�ez �chat peaple :sff��d #� guC up when the�+°c�ne td the door. Mr. Leek statad tttst ginc� js�ee city was staffing ;this survey, tl��y �au1d l�ave to make sure ta i�'icata itY tt�.Y og�ning remarks t�at this was a sur��+ fdr the purpose of gather£ng �tt# ' ft�n df what the neighborhoods wanted i.� .their parks and t�a� noth�l� ��S$ be done over and aGgve what was already #.n the budget for thei� �aY'ks.;, ,' Mr: Moore stated he h�sped't�ey would initiats a reaponse fxom the vlder peaple, as they did<n�aC, Sl��s Ch#nk the parks �re far them. Mr. I,�ek atated that:ht ho�c'E �ti$t in sendiag peogle into the neigltborhoods, � thay would prepare them t�'"�ie$in discussgons tviCh the interviewees to get them thinking ahout What g�s Yae�e and Chat=perks were mare than ju�t L8$C£Y C9C�@.t$ �81tt1`S�.Ii1t�S.t;-, " � � . - � � �. � :.;ss ' �� .. - Mr• AAlatt stated Ch� t�� something to tfrink:about was that`t$e itenjaminJBriardale �� h�:e�a�agei3 in the lest'qeaz. T�ezs w�re..a lat qf new people movi�g in Chi�, but now it'had become ms�re seCtled:: He felt ; ti�e �ity was cm the r#.ght'�rack, buC urged,Chem to be very apedifie when � giv�tsg'tiae a�axvey. Peop1�, basi�ally, caere �uot park orient�d &nd needed ts3 h�ve ali �t�se 1StL`l.e ner.�s��s�pointed��ouC to �t3tem. �� Me. �;Mech st�Cad ekte=f�Et � wit��.e �quesCioi�4�€i�c:� Yot�ked��uery t*#v�Ix �' �� and thought 'it shou�rl ba '3��n m+�xe serious�y. Shs fe3.� #12, "(!�'(i�'; Landt:ng Strip,"' Qn the Intr�rduc��'�t1c af Questiou�a£re wa's �ust taki� up s�a�e �nd she would rathex s�e �tw+�tt�iag more speCi€#,c suclt as 'besut3€uI land- ` sGgping .'r 9 .. .. p. : � ' �. � . . M'. Leek st�sted t�sat the $�rtteir,f af that shn..�t was �st to'help g�t people's minds off t�ie beatea trac�.and was not eves� a parL..uf ihe que�tiarinaire �; ftse2f. � t <, y�� , t�.:Seegar sCated` ahe £�:lt �. T�tech's poiAt w�s v�iiid, thangh. $y 6eing too �ar c�t: F�?�:��b� t�nd to noC taite t%e question�ta#�� seriovslq. Ms. $�+�ger s��sC�i that the fntervi2�crs try to stSi�lata fnterest in a staga'or s%�`f��Ceater--thLngs:.peaple i�auYs3 not usua#ty think of themsalves. � � • ;� , �._ .. �.� ., ��.� �. _ �_ ._ .��` _�,. �... . , k., ,_� � °:'^�""� , �� 7r. � t` ��1 ? �� . I �, pg�r+z d # jy�` }. L- � t-• � �� 1 ,�.+ � � �'" : J � .. . C m �r j. �, ' s, �: .; � � � � -s ,,. � _a r � , '_ � �- � u�' � �� . � y � : �� ; ` � � � rt},." 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RF.QUEST FOR A VARIANCE OF TItE FRSDLEY CITY CODE AS FOLLOWS: SECTION 205.Q75. 1, E3, TO REDUCE TtiE SE1'T3ACK FOR OFF-STREET PARKING FROM A LOT LINE, FROry1 5 FEET TO ZER6 r'EE7', OF EXISTING PAi2KING AS I5, ON LOTS 14 & 15 SAME BEING 5800-2'/ STREET NE, FRIDLEY, MN. RR #1, BOX #59, CUSiiING, {VISCONSIN 54006�. R� 0 ALLOW THE CONTINUA'P1UN BLOCR 23, HYDE PARK, TFiE (REQUEST SY MR. ALBIN JOHNSON, MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by b7s. Gabel, to open the Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 7'he Public Hearing was opened at 7:40 P.M. ADPIINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREASENT: Section 205.075, 1, E3, requiring a setback of �ive feet From a 1at line for all parking. Public purpose served by this section of the Code is to reduee visual pollution in the areas adjacent to lot lines, and separate parking with landscaped areas. B. STATED HARDSHIP: To comply with the City Code as requested by the City Engineering Department and the cost of changing the parking. Also the lost use af the existing rear yard. C. AD�IINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW: The existing parking at 5800-2% Street is in the side yeard to the rear pf the four-plex off 58th Avenue. There are focar parking stalls with parking close to both the alley and the south property line. The area is hard surfaced with fencing and curb stops for the four stalls. Apparently the overflow paricing must be done in the street. The possible alternative would be to park in the rear off the alley. Required stalls total 7.5, based on a single one bedroom and three twa-bedroom units. APPEALS COMMISSION ME��.TING - FEHR�ARY 14, 1978 ' pa e 2,, � 1-�� Mr. Moravetz said that there were some alternatives to the existing parking layout, but by using any oF the alternatives, the building wouid lose some of its green area in the rear yard. He said that from the Staff�s point of view, there were no ohjections to the existing parking scheme. Chairperson Schnabei indicated that the ter.ants were presently parking to tha rear of the building. She also pointed out that there were oniy four parking sta2ls and the required was 7,5 parking sta2ls. Mr. Albin dohnson indicated that the garking lot was actually accomodating eight cars. Chairperson SchnabeZ said 'that the point being made was that he was to provide parking stalls for 7,5 cars according to the Formula used for the number of apartments that he had. She said that the Code required ?.5 parking stalls. Chairperson Schnabel said that even though Mr, Johnson said he had accomodations for eight cars, he could only do so by encroaching onto the Boulevard property. She said that all the parking provided was not contained entirely on Mr. Johnson's property. Mr. Johnson said that to change the layout would not improve the aesthetics of his property. . Mr. Moravetz said that it was Staff�s opinion ihat as much green shauld be maintained as possible. He explained to the Commission each of the alternatives that had been drawn up by Staff. He said that Mr. Johnson's existing scheme was really the best plan. Mr. Barna wanted to know the depth of the parking area from the curb to the back curb-stops. Mr. Moravetz said that with the street improvement the distance would be approximately 36 feet with about 12 feet of boulevard. bir. dohnson indicated that most of his tenants had two cars. He felt that his existing set-up was a good one. Mr. Barna asked if very many people actua2ly used the a11ey. Mr. Jahnson said that people from the other two apartment buildings continually use the alley. Chairperson Schnabel said that the request at hand was a request to go from five feet to zero feet from the lot line but it did not bring into account the boulevard. Mr, Moravetz said that that the side yard was being discussed in this request and not front yard. - FEBRUARY 14, 1978 PaQe 3 Mr. Cross of 5801-2nd Street NE, Fridley, said that he was at the meeting by mistake. Ne said he got a letter from the C3ty of Fridley stating that he was not in compliance with the City Code 205.061. He said that he had contaeted his attorney, and the lettar was in error. Mr. Cross said that he decided to appear at the meeting anyways because Mr. Johnson owned the property across the alley from him and wanted it to be known that the alley was definitely very highly used. He said that he wanted the alley to be left open. Chairperson Schnabel said that the City carried the alley on record as an unimproved alley. She said that to have the alley improved he would first have to get a petition of property owners on either side of the alley. Mr. Cross asked if the street improvement had been petitioned by the property owners. � Chairperson Schnabel said that the street improvement project was part of a ten year program to improve a11 the streets in Fridley. Mr. Cross asked who was paying for the street improvement project. Ms. Gabel said that all the citizens of Fridley had to pay for it. Mr. Cross didn't feel, that a person had to buy a variance when he already owned the property. Chairperson Schnabel said that the point was that the City of Fridley had a Zoning Ordinace and a?3uilding Code book, etc. She said those codes were published in 1973. She said that that what had io be accomplished was to bring all the existing properties into comgliance with the ordinances. If the properties were found to be in non-compliance to the Ordinances, the property owners had to apply for a variance from the Code that they were in violation of. Chairperson Schnabel asked Mr. Cross i£ he had talked to anyone at City Ha11 regarding the letter he received that was in error. Mr. Cross said that City Nall had apologized for their error. He said that he did not accept the apology. He said that the City was in error and it was wrong what they were doing. He said that as far as the fee for variance or the subject of the alley he was going to protest strongly, because it was their property and they should not have to buy it back. Chairperson Schnabel felt that Mr. Cross was mistaken about the term "buying it back". She said that a person did not buy a variance. She said that a person could apply for a variance. She said there was a fee charged on the applieation because there was a lot of paper work involved, and a lot of staff time involved in reviewing whatever was being requested Mr. Cross said that he was still very concerned about the alley. Re felt the alley should be improved, APP�ALS COMMISSION MF'ETING - FF�T3RUARY 1!� 1978 Pa��e � �� Chairperson Schnabel said that the alley v�asn't being discussed because it was an unimproved alley, She said that Mr. Johnson was not making a request to i.mprove the alley. Mr, Cross said that he wouZd gladly sign a petition regarding the alley improvement, Mr, Moravetz said that if Staff received a formal petition requesti.ng the alley improvement, Council could authorize preliminary studies� He said that at that time survey cre�vs could be calZed in to do the necessary surveys and an overall feasibility study could be made, Mr. Moravetz said that the petition would have to be signed by most of the people that tivould be effected by the a11ey improvement. He said that everyone tivould ha�e to be in agreement because of the costs involved. MOTION by Mr, Kemper, seconded by Mr, Barna, to close the Public Aearing, Upon a voice vote, all vating aye, the motion carried unanimous7.y. The Pnblic Hearing was-closed at 8;1� P,M, Ms. Gabe1 said that there erould be costs involved with putting in the ne�v streets vihich vrould be assessed to the landlords and secondly there �vould be extensive costs involved if Mr. Johnson would be required to change his exzsting parking scheme, She also pointed out that by changing the existing parking area �vauld involve the loss of some of the green area of the property, She felt that yards were just as important to tenants as they tvere to privaie home owners. She £elt that Mr, Johnson should be able to keep his existing parking axea. Mr. Kemper asked if the variance was bein�; requested to a11ow parking in the boulevard or �vas the variance to reducs parking area from five feei to zero feet from the lot line, He tivanted to know if they urere discussing boulevard encroachment, Mr, Kemper pointed out that in reality they ti�rere discussing the boulevard encroachment because it �vas being admitted that cars were parking right up to the lot line. Mr. Barna expressed concern because even if the variance request was approved� Mr. Johnson sti11 only have four legal car stalls and Code requires 7,5 parkin� stalls, He said what the v<�riance should have been for iras to a1Zoti�r parl�zng in the boulevard, in tivhich case then he tivould have had the legal number of parking stalls. �.. 11PPEALS CONsMTSSION MrETFNG - FPBRUARY 14, 1978 Pa�'e 5 Mr, Kemper said that the problem was that the variance request as it ��ras constituted, if approved, 1�rouldn�t solve the problem. He said that the variance request ��ras not directed properly. Chairpers6n Schnabel said that part of the problem was that Pridley City Code Section 205,0`75, General Provisions, only addressed off street parking that vaas prohibited in the folloraing areas: 1) Any portion of the required front yard; 2) Using over 2j3 of the required rear yard; 3} Any closer to a 1ot line than five feet; 4) Any closer to a main building than five feet. She said that the particular Section did not specify parking in boulevards, She felt that Parking in the Boulevards i�ras the issue to be considered, Mr. Kemper �ranted to know where in the City Code it was varitten that a person couldn't park in the boulevard, Chairperson Schnabel indicated that no permanent structure on the boulevard, the Codes that. said specifically that a in the boulevard. as long as there �vas there ti�ras nothing in person could not park Mr. Barna wanted to know tivhy Mr. Johnson needed any variance, Mr. Moravetz said that the variance vras needed along the �Uest property line adjacent to the alley, Mr. Kemper asked tivhat tivas to be done regardin� the requirement of 7.5 parking stalls and Mr. Johnson only actually having four parking stalls. He said that if ihe variance eaas granted then t�rhat tivas being sazd �vas that Mr, Johnson would have eight stails, four on his praperty and four on the boulevard. Mr, Kemper said that the item bothered him, Chairperson Schnabel said that there should have been a variance request to reduce the number of parking stalls from the required 7.5 stalls to four. Chairperson Schna6el suggested the tabling of the item until more research could be done on several confusing issues. She etiplained to P7r, Johnson that the Commission had questions dealing vrith the interpretation of the Ordinance. She said that the Co�r,mission �vasn't clear as to hot=r the Ordinances addressed the subje�t of parking on the boulevard, She also said that perhaps Mr. Johnson should have had another variance request rrhich would have been to reduce the number of stalls provided from 7.5 to 4� crhich he actually �vas groviding. ��i _ APPPALS COMMISSION fdEFTITiG - FEBRUARY 7t�, 1978 Pa�;e 6 ��'i� Ms. Gabe1 explained that tabling the item would be for Mr, Johnson�s protection. MOTION by Mr. Kemper, seconded by Mr. Barna, to table the request for a variance of the Fridley City Code as Follows: Section 205,075, 1, E3, to reduce the setback for off-street parking from a lot line, fxom five feet to zero feet, to allow the continuation of existing parking as is on T,ots i!� and 75, Block 23, FIyde Park� the same being 5800-2g Street NE, Fridley� Mn. Mr. Kemper said that he was not ready to su�gest a ruling on the request. Ae didn�t feel that the ground rules �vere actually knoi�Jn, He said that very likely the request was worded in the manner that Staff felt it should have been worded; hov�ever, he fe7.t that there were some loose ends that should be straightened out before any formal ruling was made, UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. At the petitioner's request, Chairperson Schnabel,indicated that the item would be tabled until March 28, 1q78. She told Mr. Johnson that it would appear as the first item on the agenda. Chairperson Schnabel asked that S�aff renotify Mr, Johnson of ihe March 28, 1978, meeting. Chairperson Schnaba2 reiteraied the questions that the Appeals Commission had regarding the Variance Request: 1) 2) 3) Does the City permit parking on boulevard properties? Is a Variance required to reduce the number of parking staZls from 7.5 to t�, if the City does not permit parking an boulevards? Can the Appeals Commission act on a variance for parking on boulevards? Chairperson Schnabe]. said that ti��ith the questions the Appeals Commission tivants to knovr the 1ega1 status of the questions because they �vant to know �vhich direction to take in terms to their recommendations to City Council. 2. FOLLOVJS : 2� and 25, BLOCK 8, HYD� P1�RK, THE S�1ME IIEING � 6021 M11IN iTR�ET NE� FP,IDLEY, MN, (R��UEST BY 1+4R, RO�NF'.X ri. CJ4�1RIl� 6021 MAIN STRI:i.T N�:, FI�IPLliY�� MN 554321. TO MOTION by Ms. Gabel, seconded by Mr, Barna, to open the Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the moiion carried un�nimously. The PubZic llearing �vas opened at 3:47 P,M, 11PPEALS COMMISSTON MP^TING - FEBRUftRY lt+s 1978 Fa�e 7 A. Ei� C, AI�MINISTRATIVF STlsFP REP4RT PUBLIC PURPOSP SPRVFll BY R�RUIRZ3�IrNT: Section 205.065, 3B, prohibiting parking in the required front yard. Public purpose served by this section of the Code is to reduce visual pollution in the front yard� STATED HARDSHIP: "To be in compliance 1�rith the Fridley tvould create a hardship since the onl provide parking on the property is in just off the street, The sides and re are too sloping and low to be used fo ADt�1TNISTRATIVE STAFF RLVIEIFI: City parking Code y feaaible area �o the front yard - ar of the property r parking.'� �.�g This four-plex apartment appears to be about 23 feei from each side lot line, The building is 38.5 feet from the £ront property line. The parking ratic required totals �.5 stalls based on t�vo one-bedroom units, one tvro-bedroom unit, a.nd one three-Uedroom unit. The parking requested t��ould be similar to existin� parking with 20 foot hy 10 foot stalls which r+ould abut the boulevard but not be in the boulevard, '�r "' Parking in the side yard is impractical. There is space in the rear yard for two parking stalls without a variance. The terrain �+ould make entering the rear yard difficult unless the alley to the rear rvas used £or access. Mr, Rodney ri. 1Uaara of 60Z1 tRain Street NE� Fridley, MN vras present at the meeting. Mr. Moravetz indicated that the petitioner F�ould be able to allotiv for seven parking stalls iviihout a side yard variance request, but he noted that Air, l7aara v�ould still be 1/2 car stall short of the requirement. He suggested that the Appeals Commission could recommend the approval o£ the parking lot a11 the eray to the North lot line of 6035 straight through to the South lot line of 6021 Main Street. He said that �vould allocr for the proper parking ratio for both buildings. Chairperson encroaching into parking sialls. ovrned. 5chnabel pointed out that Mr. '.Naara was nat the boul.evard and that he was groviding six She aaked hoti�� many cars the tenants presently �R i Mr. lYaara said that the tenants presently o�uned seven cars. He said ,that eight Utalls vrere actually being provided in the parking lot. He said that his lot �vas 80 feet vride and it tivas possible;•-for eight cars to park across the property. Ms. Gabel said that to do as Mr, Moravetz had suggested vrould have to be in" agreement by both property oti�mers. (6021 & 6035 Main Stxeet). Mr. Kemper pointed out that something had to be resolved since the required number of parking spaces viere not being pxovided, Mr. P�Ioravetz said that Mr. ��Jaara�s building did have a unique situation"�ue to tke �errain to the rear of the building. He said that parking had to be provided at the front of the building. fSr, Moravetz said that the parkin� lot ivould have to be expanded from the*present 60 feet to 70 feet bv maintaining five feet csf green area on the side yards. He said that it still wouldn't soZve the parking requirement of 7.5 parking stalls. Chairperson Schnabel said that it vaould be possible to recommend to City Council the vraiving of the .5 foot required stall, " Mr. 1Naara said that the properties at b021 and 6035 Main Street shared a trash recepticie that vras located on the center island that tivas being talked about being eliminated, Mr. Moravetz said that 6035 Main Street would also have to obtain five £oot side yard variances to obtain the 7.5 parking stalls required. He said that there would still be the passibility o£ maintaining a ten foot island between properties and the trash container could remain on that island. xe feZt it would be aestheticall�, pleasing having some green area to the front of the buiZdinq. Chairperson Schnabel read the City Ordinance regarding Refuse Containers. Mr. ldaara pointed out that the trash recepticle tvas located in the front of the building because the rear of the buildin� eras not easily accessible, Iie said that he Yiad o1��neu the building for two years and he had assumed that the City of Fridley had been a�vare of the location of the trash recepticle c'lYlCi YlOVT it was emptied. Mr. CJaara feit that completely eliminating the center island ti�ras the best solution to the problem. He said that the trash recept3cle could be praperly screened and placed on a designated area on the black-top. � IiPPrALS COMMISSIOAT M�I:TIP7G - FPBRUARF .14, �,.��_ Pat*e 9 .� .e � Ms. Gabel said that she wouldn�t be comfortable doing away rrith the ten foot island tiaithout the other property o��mer at 6035 t•tain Street present at the meeting (Mr. Hart did not appear at the February lt�, 1g78, Appeals Gommission meeting). Mr. t'Jaara asked if the Appeals Commission had the jurisdiction to deal �rith the trash recepticle. Chairperson Schnabel �aid that approval of the variance request could be recommended ta City Council t�rith the stipulation that the trash recepticle �vould be allovred at the f'ront of the building if it e�as properly screened. She explained that the stipulation r�ould mean that before Nir, taaara could receive the variance request, he wouid have to properly screen the trash recepticle. Chairperson Schnabel said that the same stipulation 1�ould be placed on the property at 6035 Main Street so that the cost of the trash recepticle screening ��rould be shared by the t�ro property oti°mers, Mr, Kemper rranted to knoti�r if the property oimers paved the parking lot up to the boulevard� would the City pave the boulevard. Mr. Pdoravetz said that the Ci:ty caould pave the 11 foot boulevard, He said that if the property ovrners paved the entire area prior to the street improvemant project and they extended the paving all the ciay to the street, then the City l�.ould pave that part so that it �aould blend into the street. Chairperson Schnabel asl�ed if the property ocrners e�ould be assessed for the paving of that additional 1i feet, NIr. Moravetz said that it e�rould be considered as part of the paving project and the total cost of the project irould be shared by all ihe property owners being assessed for the improvement project. Pdr. l`taara said that at one point ir. time he and the adjacent property o�m er (P�Ir. Hart) had discussed the possibility of asphalting the entire parking area as a joint venture. He said that they t�rere mainly rraiting to find out exactly what the City had planned for the street improvement project. ri0TI0N by Pts, Gabel� seconded by P4r. Barna, to close the Public Aear�_ng. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. The Public Hearing vras closed at 9:28 P,M. � APPFALS COMMISSION Ml"GTING - I�'EBRUARY 14� 1R7a Pa�e 10 Mr. Kearper said that the Variance request did not address ��2itself to the required number of parking stall, fIe said he was reluctant ta rule on the request to reduce the number of parkin� stalls by .5 stalls trhen it really ti�aasn't part oF the actual request. Ms, Gabel said that if they eliminated the center island, they also �Frouldn't have the correct variance request. MOTION by Mr. Kemper, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to table the request for a variartce o£ the I'ridley City Code as folloc�s; Section 205.065, 3B, to allovr the required off-street parkin� stalls to be located in the required front yard, to a7_lov� the continuation of existing parking as is, on I.ois Z4 & 25, B1ock $, FIyde Park, the same being 6021 P4ain Street N�, E%ridley, MN, until March 14, 1978. Chairperson Schnabel said that an aiiempt ��rould be made to be sure that P4r, Hart, the property o��mer at 6035 T�1ain Street NE, t�rould also attend that public hearing, She szid that at the March 1�., 197t3, meeting the Commission vaould address all the variances that needed to be addressed. Mr. Kemper said that it s�ould be best to be able to resolve a11 the issues at the sane time, UPON A VOICE VOTP, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. The request tras tabled until March 14, �978. Chairperson Schnabel said that additional variance requests were anticipated by the Appeals Commission: 3. 1} Reduce the number of parking 2) Zero lot line variance; or j} To place a trash recepticZe required screening of same. stalls; or in the front yard and 26 & 2%, BLOCK 8� FIYDE PARK� TIT� SI1Mi. BLIPIG 60j5 MAIN 5TRE�T NE� FRIDL�Ys MN. (Ry�UEST BY MR, RICH.!lRD l'fARREN TIART, 6035 M�S.IN STR��T Ny� FRTDLLY� MN 55432). MOTION by I�Is, Gabel, seconded by Mr, Kemper, �o continue t12e request until March 1y, 19'78, due to the fact that P-Ir, Hart did not appear at the E�'ebruary lt�, 1978, meeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carriad unaninously. Chairperson Schnabel declared a ten minute recess at 9:lF2 P,t1, AF'PEALS COMMISSIQN M�rTING - FEBRUARY t4, 1978 Pa�e 12 ��i Mr. Arnie Toe��rs, representing Arnal Company, was present at the meetin�. Mr. Moravetz said that the request ivas similar to a zero ''�lot Zine request that had previously been granted to the Arnal _ Company, Mr. Toee�s said that they planned to build an additaonal 50,000 square feet o£ building. He said that they vlere requesting the variance to reduoe the rear lot line to zero and reduce the £ront yard requirement from 160 feet to 90 feet, Chairperson Schnabel �vanted to knorr if the nee� building as v�ell as the existing building vrould be uNed for Arnal Company�s olvn purposes, or she �vanted to knoe�a if they wou2d be "sub- leasing any of the building space. r1r. Toetivs said that the buildzngs ��rould be ovaned and operated by the Arnal Company, part of rahich �rould lae Industrial Spray Painting Company. He said they were fairly certain that the Company vrould not require the entire 50,0�0 square feet of the netia building, but the exact square footage that trould be sub-leased i�ras not kno�em at that time. Chairperson Schnabel asked if there v�as any intention to tie the ttivo buzlding together. ASr. Toevrs said,that unless they had to tie the two buildings together, they didn't have any intentions of doing so. P4s� Gabel asked if they v�ere finished vrith the improvements that ti�aere started last summer. Mr. Toe�vs said that the improvements crere almost completed. Mr. Barna asked �vhat the new building vaould be used for. Mr. Toerrs said that it ivould be used basically for assembly. t4s, Gabel. asked if the previous expansion had helped cut dovrn the problems the Company had with fires. A1r. Toeivs said that he cras sure it would help once it vras fully completed. ris. Gabel aslsed horr much additional truck trafPic ti��ould be generated by the nerr building, Mr. Toevrs estimated that the addition trucii traffic generated vaould be tivo or three trucks more each day. APPT'ALS CQMMISSTON MPI'TING - FEI3RUARY 14, 1978 Pa�e 1„�^ Chairperson Schnabel said that Staff had commented that �� a stipulation be put on the request that Arnal Company Ehare in the expense of putting a fence along �he park property. Mr, Toevrs said that the Company vrould object to that stipulation, He said that their Company tivas on that property long before any plans cTere made to put a park in that area. They didn't feel any responsibility t� help in the expense of fencing that park property. Mr, Kemper asked if the request was bein� asked for the zero lot line for Mr. Toews' entire property. Mr, Toevrs said that they �vould need ihe zero lot line variance for their entire property. Ms, Gabel pointed out thai if they granted a variance, it vaould only be valid for one year from the date it vfas granted. Mr. Toews said that it really wouldn't make any difference. He said he wanted to request it for the en+.ire property and there would be a chance that more construction tivould take place within the year. He said that if another building �F�as not constructed within that time, then they would just make another request at a later date. Ms, Gabel asked what the distance �vas bet��,reen the building and the railroad tracks, Mr. Moravetz said that it t�fas 50 feet. He also said that the rear of ihe building would be solid brick/b].ock. Mr. Toews pointed out that ti�rith the present building, plus the planned construction of a 50,QOO square feot building, and including a future proposed builcling of 20,000 sauar2 feet, tire Company still Etould not violate the 40% coverage requirement, Chairperson Schnabel aslced if the front of all the buildin�s, present, proposed, and future planned, vrould all conform to the existing design. Mr. Toecrs said that a11 the buildings erould have the manso:d design, He felt that the design vras aesthetically pleasing to the area. r'Is. Gabel a�reed that the building looked much better since they had done the improvements, A1r. Barna said that he vieti��ed the building every da}r and that it really did look nice. APPI:IILS CONIM7SSION TRPPTING - FFBRUARY i L�, 197F3 pa�e 14 �-�E'y MOTTON by Mr. 13arna, seconded by Mr. Kemper, to close the Public Fiearing. Upon a voice vote, a17. voting aye, the rriotion carried unanimously. The Public Iiearin� t�ras closed at 10; 20 P,P4, MOTION by Ntr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Kemper, to recommend approval of the request for variances of the Fridley City Code as follor�s: Section 205.�34, 4C, io reduca the required rear yard setback from 25 feet to zero feet, and Section 205.t34, 6, to reduce the required setback for the building, ��rhen the property is adjacent ta a different zonin� district, from the required 100 feet to 90 feet, to allovt the construction of an additi.on to an existing building, located on Parcel 1300, Nz of Section 3, I�nolia County, the same being 8251 Ashton Avenue NE, Fridley, T�iN 551�32, ti•rith the stipulation that if the building was to ever be sold separately, the petitioner vf�uld be required to plat the land rather than be �ranted a lot split. UPON A VOIC� VOTE, a11 voting aye, the motzon carried unanimousl:y, Chairperson Schnabel said that the item tivouZd he revieti�red by the City Council on March 20, tq7g, MOTTON by Ms, Gabel, seconded by Mr, $arna; that City Council consider the construction of a fence on the park property abutting Ashton Avenue be expedited as a safety factor due to the increasing traffic load on Ashton Avenue, Upon a voice vote, alI voting aye, the motion carried unanimously, OTHFR BUSINESS; 5. t�t�iJ GA!�AGi� TO B'_,' LOCAT�D OT1 LOT '7� �iLOCIi 1� P•i��,1D0'.7P100R T:R$11C� 2idIJ ADDITION� TH� S�hfI'� $BING 1 L�00-761ii 11VFNUE NE� FBIDLEY} MN, (Ri'�UEST BY MS, KARLA $LOtIbLRG, 6i3o-6tn STRE�'T NE� FRTDL�:Y, MN), PSOTIO N by Nis, Gabel, seconded by Nqr, Barna, to open the Public Hearing, Upon a voice �ote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously, The Public Hearing Nas opened at 10:30 P�M, I�ar.la & Tom Bloinberg and Jerome 8� Caro� ttachlitt erere at the meetiyg re�arding this itern. �, APP��ALS COMt4Z>SION ME^TZNG - FP]3�UARY 1�, tq�8 PAGP 15 Chairperson Schnabel said that the request did not get ��'� into City Hall in time to go through the normal channels of publication ana notices sent out to the adjacent property ovrners, Ms. SchnaUel said that the petitioner spnke to Councilman Hammernils and he in turn spolce to ihe City ��.nager and in con}unction r�iih �everal people on the staff. She said that it ��ras determined that if the petitioner ti��ould t�ie a petition around to the prpperty ormers }•�ithin 200 feet and explain to the�n the variance request� and have them sign the netition� that the normal process could be eiaive�, Ms. Schnabel said that it eJas bein� handled in the above manner because of a time element involved rtith the request, Chairperson Schna�el asked vrhy the request needed to be processad in the above manner and �vhy it couldn't be processed normally, Ms, Blo�berg said that Air, Machlitt eias having a contractor build the house and contractors ti�rouldn't hold the prices for very long. She said that the soonest the request could have been befoz•e the AApeals CoMmission �vnuld have been March 14, 7g�8, She said that if there had been problems, there rrere only so many lots for. sale and the contractor �,ouldn�t hold the lot that Pir, iiachiitt ivanted. She said that financially it �vould be in the price range that the hlachlitt's could afford. Mr. Moravetz said that ane concern that Staff had �•rith the request etas i�hether the neti+ion rrhen it tivas circulated represented properly v�hat would take place. Chairperson Schnabel said ihat the petition read, ";�le the underUigned r�ai�le our rioht to the traditional 10 d.ay notice of public hearing for vaxiance reouest on property located on the SE corner of 76th Avenue and Iiayes Street N� address beiag 14Q0 `76th Avenua PdP legally ilescribed as follo;rs: Lot 7, Block 1, Pdeadovrmoor Terrace 2nd Addition. Variance re�uest cade 205.�535� is from 17'6" to 14�l�'� side yard requirement�(side yard being Hayes Street NE), 'r7e understand the public hearing tvi11 be February 14, 19�8, 7;00 P,A1, at Fridley City I�all. Si�nature does not necessarily mean approval but merely notification of public hearing,t� Chairperson 5chnabel said ihat the petition i��as signed by 17 people i��ith one house being vacant, P•?s. Blor.�ber� presented to the Commission the petition ana a letter from Calhoun �{ealty that indicated address 1361-?5th 2ve, Nis �;:as vacant and under a sales centract. MOTION by Ms, Gabel, seconded by Mr, Barna, to receive the petition and letter. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye� the motzen carried unlnisnously. -�,;, ��g APPFALS COMMISSION MERTING - FF�RUARY 1jj is7$ Pa�e 16 Ms. Blomberg showed the Commiesion a survey upon which she had drawn the proposed house. She also explained the reasons c�hy the house was poUitioned the way it was sho�vn, Ms, Blomberg said tha.t on the petition previous to to obtain their si�natures. each of the people that she over exactly ivhat ti�ras being their doors vrith a petition she spoke urith each of the peaple her goin� to their homes in order She said that she explained to eranted them to be able to think requested before she showed up at to sign. f�[r. Machlitt said that there vaere a couple of neighbors that had expressed some concern� so he said that he took his proposed house plans over to the neighbors and shoi��ed them exactly v�lzat he planned to builci, fIe said that after he went over the p7:ans and explained them to the neighbors that the nei�hbors were in complete agreement, Ms, Blomberg said that the t�ahole neighborhood �°ias very concerned and avrare of their neighborhood and had expressed their concerns at different times previously, She said that they vrere mostly coneerned about not haoing any low income housing going,into the neiohborhood. She said that they had no objections to the house that Mr, rfachli�t had proposed. Cl2airperson Schnabel asked holv soon construction eJOUld begin if the request �vas granted, I�4s, Blomberg said that construction wauld begin ti:ithin the month, Chairperson Schnabel asked if the nar,ies of the people contacted ��aere received from City Ha11, Ms, Blomber� said that the names were given to her by City Hall, h1r, Kemper asked t+rhat the toial length of the house eras, Ms, Blomberg said that it �xras 68 feet long. P�ir, IiempQr pointed out tiiat a house t��ith a te�t��-c�.r r;�rame c.:�u7.a be built on that lot ti+tithout any variances, IIe said � that hefore the Appeals Commission could aat on the request the hardshin tiuould have to be defined. - Ms. Blomber� said that one of the reasons causing the need for a variance rras to locate the house on the lot so as t� save a cZump ��f trees, �,a,. � � , �.: � j �. � �� ur _ t the he own chlitt wanted the one pick-up truck, ��` �� . � .� '= ��t mtibz.les, e'��, "��e said it wt�u�.�=�:��0 be better for the �.neighborhood to have �Z. the extra ��,�E#:pment and such in a ga�raige ana taken ca�e a�. Ms. `Blomberg �r�ai,ned to ttte ��msqise�:on how the Park in � � � ��te �_area wou�.d bs ac��sed. � ' ' Chairpersan, Snh;na'bel poinied aut,.�2sat each of the people tha� �t�u1d have bsen on the narmal mail.ing 3.ist had signed-the p��i.�ian, � Mr. Kemper eaid that even though he wasn't sure of an actual �Sardship, since there tiuere no objections from the adjacent property oR�tek�s, he tivould have no objection to the' request. M€�ION by Dir. Kemper, seconded by Mr. Barna, to close the °�b1ic Hearing. Ugon a voice vote, all votzng aye, the mot�an ��ried.un�nimously. ,�he Public Hearing w�s closed at 10:53 F,M. Ma. Gatsel said that even though the h,az�dship avas vague,: sh� also would like b"o see the trees saved,, and if Mr. Mach2it� had th�t much equipment, then she would i�ather see it put into a�arage than 3.eft out �.n the open. Mr, Barna wanted to know_the distance from the house t�o the curb on Hayes Street. r ' Mr. Moxavetz said that the house - would be ap�sroximately 2t feet fram the curb line . MOTI�N by Mr. Kemper, seconded by Ms, Gabel, that the Apg�als Cammission apg�o�e the request f`or a variance of the , Frida.ey City Cade as ,�'q1lon�s: 3ection 205.053. 4B, 5a, to reduce the minimum s�de-ysrd setback, on the street side of a cors�er lot, from 1�� t' to 14.33 feet, to alloti�r the construction .of a k�ou�e; and garage to be 3.ocated orx Lot 7, Block i, Mea3oremoor.`�erY�ace 2nd Addition, the same being 1t�A0-'76�h Avenue i+TE, Fxid�.ey, MN. Upon a vaice vote, all' �oting aye� the motioz� earxied unanimou�ly. �j � F ` �. r�otv - �c� : �o 0 0 � , „ , � r T Y AR S"'T .4G �� Tf ' � sE ?�" ^10 ALLOI'! TH� Q ST�2UC'ION DE' A��1C} "a't; "AND C'xARAGis C7T+i Irf1'.I� 3e BI,QCI{ c'? HEA`.t'fi��i AILi,S 3RD AADI`PION, TH� SAME,'S�TNG 1470 RICE GR�� DRiVE NE, �'RIDLEY, MN. (REQUFST BY GOMM�RCIAI� �''T'0`RS, 5298 FZLLMtTR� STRr^.�T NE, k Ri1}€,EY' MN} M4�#4N by Mr. $arna, seconded by Ms, Gab�l, to open the Fublic Fiearip.g. Upon a v43,ce vote, aI1 votin� aye, the motion carried unan��rusly. The Public Hearing was opened at 11;05 P.M. APPEALS COMMI&SIO� �FFTING - PEBRUARY `1�. 1978 Pa�e 18 �Rr� RF�MiNI5'iRI�TI�IE STRS'F REPORT � 1�T0 itice Cresk Drive A. PUBLIC PUIZPOSE SE}N�"D SY Rit7UIREM�NT: Section 205.0�3, 4A, requising a front yard setbaek of 35 feet. Public pur�se served is ta allow for off-street parY.ing withouL- encroaching on the public right`o£ way. Also for aesthetic considerafiion to reduce the "buildittq line of sight" encroachment irtto the neighbor's £ront yard. B. STATED HARDSHZP::� .� . � . . . . � . Without request�ariance, house would have litt2e useab2e rear yard. C� ADMSNISTRATIVE STAF`F REVIEW: Rough £ieid"measurements show approximately 75 feet from the front gropezty 3ine to the Loe of the steep embankment to the rear. The hilZ varies from a S:l to a 1:1 slope in areas up to a plateau about 30 feet above the street. It is di,fficul't, withoub topographical information, to determine e�cactly hdw much r�ar yard would or wo�ld not exist. A Eront walk-out design wonld enable sarae landscapiag of the rear yard irit�ti a flat area, but npt without the loss of several small Crees in the existing embanJanent. 0 i � indic i had and b � ��:T , x�:- Page 19. Mr. 0'Bannon had been that he had '1 ^�1 ` _ . _ .... v�as later on the a�enday he 7.eft the,i�formation and,at�sesi that the Commission pr4ceed.without h3,� �resence, F Mr. Moravet� ��t��ed the Commission the basic house plan that �'ir. OaBa�nnon prop�ed. t� liuild on the lot in question. H� exp�.ained trYtat ttte embankment tp the rear o£ the lot eras quite severe. �Ce,said_�hat it �sras ch�r�cteristic of Mr. 0'Bannon to request ' fr9n,t ya�d setback,va�iances on most cu3.-de-sacs. � Ms, GabeZ poznted out that most of the lots in that area dsd have terrain prob2ems in the rear lot MOTION.by Mr. Kemper, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to close the Puhlic HeaY�ing, Upon a voice vote, aZi voting aye the motian carsied unar�.imously. 'The Public Hearing was closed at 1i:t5 P,M. N�s, Gabel said that it �vas common kTiovrledge that'there vrere groble�s v�ith the lots in that area. ' . MaTION by Mr. Kemp�r, seconded by Mr. Barna, that the App�al.s Com�tission approve the request for a variance of the �'�'�.d7ey Ci:ty Gode as follo��fs; 3ection 205,€J�j3, �A, to reduce the xe�uired �z�ont yar@ setback from 35 Yeet to 25 feet, to allov� th2 construction of a house and garage on Lat 3� Block 2� He�the� HiJ.ls 3rd Additia�t� the same bez.ng 9t�70 Rice Creek Drive Td�, Friflley� MN. IIpon a voice vot$, all ;v�tt3,ag aye, the motion �arxied unanimously.• �B�R`IQNAI, BUSINESS Ehairperson Schnabel. said that Mr, Boardman had ti�stributed a suramary af the variances for R-1 Zones from �97� �hrou�h 197?, S$e said that the action related to a suggest�.on that had b�e�s made by Mr, Kemper vahen the revie�v of tixe Zoning Ordinancs �ras being discussed, She pointed out that ai a11 the'requ�sts that had been made, the Appeals Cocumission had>only denied thaeel Chaix�erse�n Schnab�l said that she +�ianted a copy of the sUtnmary sent to each m�nbar of the Appeals Commission for t3�eir revaetv. Mr. t4o�auetz r�.sl that there could be several mare front yard vaTiance requests from ihe Iiyde Park area, He said that the ��uests taiil involve many of the same problems that were faced �h�s even.3.nq. . � �� APPFALS rOMMISSI�N t4�ETZNG - FEBRUARY 1�, 1978 Pn�e 2d �"�� Mr. Kem er asked if it would be P possible fnr �tafi to look at the requests in the same t�light« as the questions that srere brought up regardi�g the first three items of the February 14, tg7g, �ppeals Cvmmission meeting. Mr. Moravetz said that they would defini�ely be hamdled usin� the February 14th meeting as a�uideZine, ADJOURB1�2LfiIT MOTION by Mr. $arna, seconded by Mr, Kemper, to adjourn the February 1?�, 19�8, AppeaZs Gommission meeting. Upon a voice vote, aIl voting aye, the raqt�.on carried unanimously. The meeting was adjourned a� 13;20 P,M. Respectfully submiited, ///d�� C�� MaryLee Carhill Reeording S�cretary l �� _ � 12� ,. ._ _ COMMUNITY DEVEL�PMENT COPH�fISSION .. _ MLETING , FEBRUARY 14; 1978 MEMBERS PRESENT: Herman gergman, LeRoy Oquist, Hubert Lindblad, Connie Modig MEMBERS ABSENT: A1 Gabel OTHERS PRESENT: Ruben Acosta, Planning Aide CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Bergman called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. APPROVAL OF JANUARY 10, 1978, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINllTES: MOTION by LeRoy Oquist, seconded by Hubert Lindblad, to approve the January 10, 1978, Community pevelopment Commission minutes as written. Ms. Modig referred to Mr. Bergman's statement on the bottom of page 5 regarding Yhe discussion on Advisory SCandards for Land Use Regulations; "Mr. Bergman stated it was his concensus that this item had been covered and there was no need to continue discussion at another meeting.'� She waneed to know if this meant that they would no longer be looking at this issue. She hated to close off the subject in case something should come up that they would want to look at. There was a lot going on now regarding 40 foot lots. Mr. Bergman clarified that statemenC by sCating that the Commission had felt there was no need, for example, to continue the Advisory Standards for Land Use Regulations itself as an item for further discussion at the present time. This in no way would close anything off from being brought back to the Coumiission on any related items. Mr. Lindblad referred to Che comments made by Mr. Acosta on page 5, third paragraph from the bottom ot the page, regarding Staff's reco�rmendation for the ordinance to do away with the garage requirement, but that it would be written in the provisions that space be provided for a garage aC a future date and that any storage of materials should be in a shelter building, Mr. Lindblad stated that ehe City of Fridley did not need any more shacks in people's yards. It was taking a step backward. The City was saying, "Let's not build garages, but let's build shacks." By not.promoting garages, they were noc encouraging better appearances of homes and yards, Nir, gergman stated he agreed with Mr. Lindblad. He £elt there was still a question of wheCher it made any sense to noC require a garage. He khoaght the weight was swinging over to not requiring a garage and thaC was being pushed by pressures from metropolitan level, state level, and fr� all minority grouQs and low income families to alleviaee that extra cost, gut, they would have to then put up the "tin" shed. 12- COt� DEVELOPMENT COTASi5SI0N MEETING, F�BRUARY 14, 1978 - PAGE 2 � _ �jr Ms. Modig stated that what concerned her was that she did noc recall that this 1�+A Commission had made any recommendations regarding the Advisory Standards for 7,and Use Regulations. They had just given opinions and inEormation. 1Vow it had gone on to Planning,Canmission and they had no recommendations from this Commission, other than the fact that this Commission had agreed they did not approve o£ 40 foot lots, and tha.t agreement had been made when the Commission was looking at the two substandard lots that had gone before the ApPeals Coumii s s i on . Mr. Oquist stated that the document had been given to this Commission for informational review and to use as a guideline with review oE the ordinance, but there had been no request to pass on reco�endations. There wasn't much the Commission could recommend, other than adopting it and discussing it, and then gassing on concerns about the issue, Ms. Modig stated that in reading the P2anning C�ission minutes regarding 40 foot lots, all this kept coming up and they kept going back to the study on pdvisory Standards. Both of those substandard lots were borderline for the minimum square footage for houses, So, the study was sitting its way into whst the Commission was doing. She was concerned that Metropo2itan Council was eventually going to run the cities and the commissions could disband and let them do it. Her request was that the Commissioners keep this in the fore- front of theiz minds so that it didn`t get lost and become a fact fn the city without their being aware of iC. UPON A VOICE VOTfi, ALL VOTING .AYE, THE MOTION TO APPROVL THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN CARRIED UNANTMOUSLY. . RECEIVE MINUTES OF THE FRIDLEY ENVIAONMENTAL COMMISSION OF JANUARY t7, 1978: Mr. qcosta sfated the Environmental Commission's minutes were being brought to [his Commission to answer questions this Commission had raised regarding the Proposed Noise Ordinance. MOTION by �,eRoy Oquist, seconded by Connie Modig, to receive the J8nuary ll, 1978, �'ridley Environmental Commission's minutes. Upon a Voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously, I3z. Bergman stated that, regarding what Mr. Leek was referring to on the top of page 2 of the Environmental Commission's minutes, he felt the concensus of the Community Development C��ission's comments ha@ been to question whether Fridley ought to go through the process of developing their own Noise Control Ordinance or ought to adopt the existing state and federal guidelines. He stated Planning Cvmmiss3on had discussed this and he thought planning C�unission's concensus was similar to that of the Community Development Commission in that it was questiona6le whether it was o£ merit to "reinvent the wheel", so to speak. Mr. Acosta stated that one thing that was going to be done concerning the section on Snowmobile Requirements was that anpthing in the Progosed Noise Ordinance was going to be Caken out and placed in the regulations now on the books £or snowmobiling. 125 COMPfUNITY-DEVEL�PMENT COh�TiSSSON MEETING FEBRUARY 14, 197& - PAGE 3 Mr. Bergman stated Chat the gears' property had been leased and was going to be designated as a snowmobiling area for the•City of Fridley. Mr. Oquist stated that the �ity had an "energy problem" and a noise problem, and yeC the City was wi111ng to open up an area surrounded on two sides by residential homes for the purpose of letting geople run around on snowmobiles " He could not see any reason for it. It was also going to be an environmental problem. Mr. Bergman stated thae he was getting the impression that the Commissioners felt they should possibLy be involved regarding snowmobiling. Mr. Oquist referred to the motion on page 6 of Che Environmental Commission minuCes Chat "if there was going to be snowmobiling in Fridley, the City should have a Snowmobile Ordinance. These standards could be covered in Section 124.07 of the Noise Ordinance." He felt this Co�ission should definitely get involved if there was any revision to the existing Snowmobile Ordinance. It was the concensus of the Community Development �ommission that they did want to review any Snowmobile prdinance. Mr. Bergman stated that if this came before Planning Commission,he would request that it be referred eo this Coamission. MOTION by Connie Modig, seconded by yeRoy pquist, that when the Proposed Noise Ordinance was reviewed and revised, �ommunity Development Coumiission would like to review it again. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE STATUS REPORT ON BIKEWRY/WALKWAY PROJECT; Mr. Bergman stated that Planning Coumiission had also concurred with this Co�nission's recommendation that the BikewayJWalkway project Committee be disbanded. City Council was sending out leCters thanking the members for their involvement. All the Planning Coam�ission members had agreed with this Commission's proposal that in Chis stage of development, this Cammission could handle it directly. Mr. ,ycosta handed out a sheet entitled, "Implementation of the gikeway( Walkway gystem." He explained that Class I was bike paths, Class Ii was bike lanes, and C1ass IZI was bike routes. The Conmission could see thaC at this time there had been no construction in the Class I-type oF bike paChs (off-the-road paths). Class II, bike lanes, was striping on the side o£ the roads. Those had been paid for by both ciey and county funds. Class Iii, bike routes, was the signs; there was no striping or any other type of designation of protection for the bicycle rider. He stated he had been told that all Class II bike lanes and C1ass III bike routes that were proposed for the City had.been developed. Before.Class I bike paths could be developed, other sources of funding were needed. , 126 COMMLINITY DEVELOE'MENT COMMISSTON MEATING FEBRUARY 14, 1978 - PAGE 4 Mr. Acosta stated that right now they were in Phase 3 of the Sikeway/Walkway Plan. He stated that the firsC patlx to be developed would probably be the one coming through the Locke Park area. He stated there had been some changes to the design of the paths. probabZy one of Che most signficant changes would be the path that was supposed to follow the gurlington Railroad and was supposed to link up with North Park, Columbia Arena, and City Hall. Aesthetically, it was mostly junk yards and the usage of this type of path aligrunent and usage of North Park as a highlight area was probably overestimated in the Bikeway/ Walkway Plan as they were seeing Che trend today, Tn order to tie up with North Park, they were going to use EasC River Aoad, probably with an off- street or separated path. They may be able to get monfes�for that from the "Great River Road Project." NoC much had been said about the construction of the paths because so much depended on funding. The City could not undertake the cost of tha[ projeet. Mr. Bergman stated that he felt there was an error on the sheet entitled, "Implementation of the Bikeway/Walkway System" as he did not think it was ever proposed that $17,060 be spend in 1976 on "Path/Trail Construction." The City was just now entering Phase 3, and in the Bikeway/Walkway Plan, there were no paths fncluded in Phases 1 and 2. The sheet also listed $23,300 in 1977 for the same thing. Mr. Oquist stated that he felt that be£ore any changes from the $ikeway/Walkway Plan were implemented, they should be brought before this Cou�ission. MOTION by LeRoy Oquist, seeonded by Connie Modig, that any deviation from the Bikeway/Walkway Systems Plan, adopted July 1975, should be reviewed by the Community Development Commission. Mr. Hergman asked if it was Mr. Oquist's intent in the motion that city staff update the Commission on any changes made, why these changes were made, and any future changes? a Mr, Oquist stated that was his intent. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, THE MOTION CARRI$D UNANIMOIISLY. In summarizfng, Mr. Bergman stated that there had been a gikeway/Walkway Project Committee of considerable siza and they had been, at best, semi- active and were now in the process of disbanding. Things had happened to the gikewaq/Walkway plan since the Project CQ�ittee's involvement in that formal ptan proposal. Things had been done at city staff level, commissions had gotten involved, and he thought some of the policies were just casually being bandied about. He thought one of the things this Commission should do was to review the policies and objectives of the Bikewaq/Walkway plan. Peopie were now talking about a linear park. He did not think it was the intenC of the Bikeway/Walkway Systems Plan that it be anything but a bikeway/ walkway. 12� COMMI3NI'�CY DEVELOPMENT CCMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 14,_1978 - PAGE 5 Mr. AcosCa atated he would like to raise another point the Co�ission might want to consider and that was what were the legal binding factors oY the gikeway/Walkway Systems Plan and how did this differ from any other compre- hensive planning that the city adopted2 Mr, Oquist stated that another question he had was whether the sheet entitled "Ymplementation oE the BikewayfWalkway System" was really up to date, and, if not, city staff should clarify it and bring this back to the next Co�ission meeting. MOTION by LeRoy Oquist, seconded by Connie Modig, that the subject of the Bikeway/Walkway Plan be put on the nexr meeting's agenda with the following items to be discussed; 1. Review objectives of the BikewayJWalkway Plan 2. An update on the seatus of the lanes and routes 3. Diseuss the legal affect of the Plan /+. What changes had been made to date and why 5. Any known or reporCed conflicts with the original gikeway/Walkway Plan 6. A repore on present or planned future financing for proposed paths 7. How our communiCy's bikeway/walkway system connects with adjacent communities' bikeway/walkway systems UPON A VOICE VOTE, AI,L VOTING AYE, THE MOTION CARTtIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Bergman staCed that the Gommissioners should study the Bikeway/Walkwaq Systems plan before the next meeting. OTiiER BUSINESS; 1. Resignation from Hubert p. Lindblad Mr. Lindblad presented Mr. Bergman with a letCer of resignation effective February 15, 1978. Mr. Bergman read the letter to the:Commission. MOTION by �,eRoy Oquist, seconded by Connie Modig, to receive and accept Mr. Lindblad's resignation from the Co�unity Development Commission. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Bergman stated that Mr. Lindblad had served on a lot of co�issions for many years and had developed a lot of knowledge and experience. He stated he would regretfully pass Chis letter of resignation on to City Council. 2, Agenda Items Referring to Che Covm�ission's minutes of November L5, 1977, where the Commission had listed 14 items they would like to have referred to the Commission, Mr. Bergman stated he felt there should be more items on Che agenda than there were. �. .., �;� COMMUNITI' DP.V1iLOPMEPIT COMMISSION Mi:ETING FEBRllARY 14, 1978 - PAGE 6 Mr. Acosta explained that Mr, Boardman�s work schedule for 1977 and 1978 was a very aggressive schedute and one that realistically could not be met. He stated the Commission should be getting these items as they came down from Planning Commission. Ms. Modig wanted to know who decided what went on the Commission's agenda. Mr, gergman stated that, basically and primarily, staff made up the agenda. They put oa items referred by the Planning C6mmission and any items that sta£f felt pertained to the Community Development Commission. �ny coimnission member could also add items to the agenda, such as Chey had done tAis evening undex "Other Business." ADJOURNMLNT: MOTION by LeRoy OquisC, secanded by Hubert Lindblad, to adjourn the meeting at 9;20 p.m. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Respectfully submitted, J � �_�+.?t.i. �:_ �/"i`�� Ly� Saba Recording Secretary � ..... �_ �/VaJ •1 _ Y FRIUL�Y E27VIR�A'tiL•P;TAL COMMIS5LON 19L��TING PEBRUARY 21, 197II - MEMS�RS PRL'SfiNT: James �,angenfeld, Lee Ann Sporre, Connie Metcalf, David SaUistina MEt�3�RS ABS�NT: Bruce peterson OT1iERS PRESENT: Ray �eek, Planning Aide CALL TO OR'3ER: Cliairgerson Langenfeld called the meetiiig to order at 7:40 p.m. APPROVAL OF JANUARY 17, 1978, FRIDLEY L't3VZRONMENTAL COMMISSION h1INUTES: M6TIOi3 Uy Connie Metcalf, seconded by Lee Ann Sporre, to approve the January 17, 1978, Fridley Environmental Commission minutes as written. rir, X,�n;;c.n£eld stated that the Coff�missioners had not received the infonna- tion tfr. Lcek was supposed to send to them regarding CENCOAD (Center for Community Organization and Area DevelopmenC). ge stated that a final decision could be made on CBNCOAD at the next meeting afCer the Commissioners had received the material. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOIISLY. APPROVnL OF AGENDA: MOTION by Connie Metcalf, seconded by Lee Ann Sporre, to approve the agenda with the addieion of "Recycling Project Committee" as Item A under Other gusiness. Upon a voice vo[e, a11 voting aye, the motion carried �nanin�ously. CONTTrvUi'sD: NOIS� CONTROL ORDINANCE: RAY LEER (Receive p{emo Dated Jan. 9, 1978): Atr. Leei: sCated that not a11 of the things referred to.in Mr. Leek's memo Co Mr. goardman and T1r, Acosta were obsolete. Tl�e definition of "Compre- hensive Plan" �aas still pertinenC. The final staCenent, "any future draft shall include provisions for eniorcement," was obsolete on the basis of the Conunission's action at tlieir last meetinb. T1�is memo had been Urought to Che Conmiiss3on as Chey h�d i»dicated Chey would lilce Co see the memo that had been sent to Community nevelopmcnt Commission responding to some of that conmiission's concerns. Mr. Leck stated that the Commission tiad asked him for further clarification on some of the ser.tions discussed aL the lasl meecing. Ile h:�d discussed these taith Mr. Olson and stated he would �o through Cl�ese with the Conmiission, � ��;��CB CRIDLfiY F.NVIRONMi:NTAT. CU1'fMTSSION MBETINF., PET3RUA1tY 21, 1-97F3 - �PAGE 2 Section 124.02 Fecleral OccupaCional S�Lety anJ }lealth AcC - Mr. Leek stated the qiiesCion vras wheLher the O.S.li•A• re�ulaCious �acre already aJopted inthe �il'y Code. IIe staced that Che O.S.H•A. regulations were not in the City �ode now so, cl�at being the case, it was the Co�nission's recommendation, thaC the 0•S.H•A• xegulations Ue left in Lhe Noise ControL Urdinance'. Section 124.05 Noise Impact Stntements - Mr. Leelc stated the question was wheCher or not the requirements that c�ere listed in the original draft should Ue included�even though the wording of- the initial paragraph stated when noise impact statements wou7.d ve requzred. It was Mr. Olson's feeling that it was fine. His only concern was thaC the necessiCy for a noise impact stat'ement be left up to the Noise Control Officer cliarged with enforcing the noise code. The Commission had recommended leaving in some require- menLS once a noise impact statement was required of a developer. Ms. Spoxre asked what the threshold cvas that would indicate when the Noise Control Officer should require a noise impact statement. There ought L'o be a threshold point. Mr. Leek agreed, but dfd not knota wliat thal- thxeshold would be. He stated the point was that any threshol.d seL by the city in determining whether or not to have a noise impact statement submitted was going to be arbitrary. Ms. SP�rre sCated thaC a tl�re�hold was more dependable in court. If it y�as,noT applied coasistently, it left the city vulnerable in cour*. Mr. T.eel: state3 L'haC he did not feel the oziginal drafe had addressed that sufficienl-1�, and ma,ybe it could he explored en stafE level to see if they could coMe up witi� some kinds of guidelines. In Che meantime, rU:. Langenfeld could express the Couenission's concerns on this at the Planning Commission. Sectzon 124.09 Public Nuisance Noises - Mr. Leek stated that the Commission had requested that he get clarification on which of the public nuisance noises in the ordinance were superftuous. Mr. Olson had not given an opinion on it. minutes1cregardinghL'he�Noise ContralJOrdinance9wereEgoing outtto th oCher� commissions. Mr. Langenfeld asked whaL Mr. Leek's analysis was on snocmnobiling. Mr� Leek sCated Lhat the snawmoUile ordinance did pz'ohiUit snowmoUiling in the City of Fridley, but did not close the door on designated snow- mobiling areas. He stated he and pir. Olson had discussed snowmobiliiig a little bi.t more. Tir. Leek had explained to ptr. Olsw� why C�ie Commission had modified the Sr• Louis Parlc ordinance Che way they did--thaC no snow- mobile noe complyin� with Che cicy's scandards should Ue operated in Che cicy, meaning it made ��iore sense to regt�iate tl�e snotmnobiles being used in rUe city rather than Che snowntobiles Ueiug sold in the city. ..4,.. , �' � �� 1'RTDLEY rNVIRON1;13NTAi= CO"A47.SSION 1�OirTING, r3'sARUARY 21, 1978 -� PAGti 3 12s. SP��rre stated tliat she wondcred if- the snocnnobile ordinance included ��J off-streeL Crail bikes; �nd, iP not, what law controlled trail bilces? MOTION by Lee Ann SPorre, seconded by David SaUisCina, that consid'erat�on of oif-streeC Crail bilces be an i�em on [6e nexC mecting's agenda. Upon a voice voCe, all voeing aye, the motion carried unanimously. MOTI6N by David Sabistina, seconded by 7,ee pnn Sporre, to receive tlze memo from Mr. Leek to Mr. j}oardman and pir. �costa dated ,7an. 9, 1978. Upon a voice vol-e, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION BUDGET: Mr. Leelc sL'ated Chat the Commission had requested that he check on two it'ems in the budget for furCher clarification. He had tallced to ,To�nn Flright and she had told him tl�at the Commission was allocated $L7,029 for £iscal year 1977, It was estimated that at point 8/8/77, the Co�ission should have spent' approximaCely $833 oi that amount in order to remain within budget. The "1977 Estic�ated AcLUal" was an estimation based on the receipts of �ohat was actually spenL' through the Commission's program code (which saas 1398) as oi 8/8/77. Mr. Langenfeld staCed that at some time the Commission should receive a copy of the £inal budget for 1977 so they could actually see how nmch n*as overspent £or the tiscal period. Ms. Sporre wanted to hriag *_o the Coum�issioners' attention that the Commissiou was allotted only $60 for conferences. This included conierences they would attend plus conferences they would sponsor in the couununity, so in t-erms of output to the- community, it really restricted them. Mr. Langenfeld stal-ed that money not spent in one area of the budget could be apliropriated to another area. He stated Chat maybe it caould be wise for the Comnission to consider raising the budget, because the Conttnission did have commission members attending conferences a great deal and, it this Commission could conduct some schools of their own, they should. Ms. SPorre stated that this commission ofCen provided representation :rom some oL these conferences. I£ some of the other conunissions would partici- pate in those conferences, then it caould not always have to come out of the Envirortmental Commission`s budget. Mr. rangenfeld stated that Ms. Sporre had brough[ up a good point, He did not think this Conm�ission should be char�ed when a memUer was representing Che city at a confeience. Mc. Leck sCated it iaas possiUle to take money out oi tlie general fund, 6ut then it had to be directly requested froin Che city. rP U�PJ � , �l:LULGY EP+VII20NI'�Et]'PAL CO2'��"9tSSI014 A'(E1S'rING 1iG13RUARY 21, 1978 - :�'AG��4 Ms. Sporre stal-ed she }�oul.d J�i.lce to encourage ottter memUers of other corrunis,9.ons co represent Ciie cit'y also. Tfr.. La;�genfeld stat:ed it wnuJ.d Ue duplicutc funding to send Eive di.fferent people, M�ybe one person should repzesent the city and then prepare a report to all thc commissians. I+(s. P•letcalf a�reed that when a cammission member ateended a conference, a bona fide writt'en report should be sent to all Clie commissions. Ms. Sporre fel.t that might discourage others from attending a coni-erence. TUe idea was to encourage them to participate. Mr. Leek stated that if the conLerence was of impnrtance to the city as a o�hole, it would be good Co have some documentaL-ion of what had happened at that conference, IL' would justi.fy the added er.pense of prinCing and pa�ercr�rk. Mr. �,angenfeld sug�ested that whenever they did decide to send a repre- sentaeive from this commission and the city to a conierence, if they felt other commissions should be urged to atCend, tl�ey should do so. Ms. Sporre stated they had urged other conunissioners to attend conferences in the past, but it cvas hard to get a delegate to go. "CITZZStdS' T�'O:ti:SAOPS Oid ENERGY AND THE �t�n11"P.OnTfElVT": Mr. I,eek stated this was something that had Ueen referred to ttim by Mr. Pet'e FLemi.ng, ltdmirtistrative Assiseant. It had first gone to Human 7�esources Commission and they had recommended that Environ�ental Commission miYl�t caant to consider it. Mr. �,angenfeld stated thaL- this o�as the same workshop that had been sponsored by Che League oi Women poters approximately a year ago. I� was a terrific workshop, but the atte�idance had Ueen poor--approximatelq 25 people had attended. He asl:ed Mr. Leek to inform Mr. Fleming that this worl;shop had already been held. Ms, ptet'calf stated that the Energy-Environment Simalator used in the work- shop was an impressive experience. She wondered if moxe people caould actend auother workshop if it was advertised Uetter. She stated that maybe it would be possible to pro��iote the use of the simulator at a Lions' Club meehing, Rot�r7� Club meeting, or Jaycees' meeting as part of their program. Mr. 51bistina agreed to bring this up at the next Jaycees' n�eeting and geC their feeling on having the �aorl:shop. Ms. Sporre staCed that this was something a❑ Energy Coimnission should t11k aUout. �� .. � � T�RIDT,P.Y TiriVIR0�71�itiilTAL CONiMISSION MIiL'TIAlGLrP13Ri1AI;Y 21, 1978 -��PAGP. S Mr. Leelc e;lated Cliat in. Che Last P1amli.ng Canmission miuul-es, CiL-y Council had di.rected Planning Comiii.ssi.on to set up thr, guidelines and policies £or an �ner�y Commi.ssion and eiLher set up a commi.ssion to hcutdle tl�e subjert or set up a project cwrmii[tcc. I�ir. T,angenfeld had suggesL-ed Chat each - chai,rperson on Che Planning Commission elect one person from their respec- tive commissions to be a member of chc project conunitLee. P1r. Peterson had lzked the idea of a separate projecC cemmittee under the planning Cormni s s i on . Ms. Sporre stated Chat this Commission had been in agreement that they felt there should be a separate comnission on energy. Mr, Leek staL-ed his understanding o£ tlie Planning Cor.unission miuutes �aas Chat they felt the same, but Chey just £elt l-he area was so broad that per- haps sane inieia] guidelines for Che potential commission's operation and for Che city's involvement in energy proorams should be set up Uefore the commissa.on. Ms. Sporre stated that as far as setCing up a clean-cut policy sl-atement for an Energy Commission, Elanning Commission could probably use cahat Che LegislaCUre had used for the gnergy Agency, She stated she felt this Commi.ssion should encourage planning Covunission to develop some policy for the estal�lishment of an Enzrgy �ouu�ission as soon as possi.ble. Mr. I.anoenfeld stated that t-hey should continue discussion on the subject of "y7orl.shops on Energy'� at the next mezting. They could also talk about CENC0.9D aC L-he same time. Mr. Langenield stated tha[ at this time he woald 1i1<e to mention the wetland survey data that was available. He felt it �aas a part oi- energy and the environment, ge wanted to kno�a if the Commission caas interested as it did tie in with CENCOAD. These aerial maps were available at $3.50 per slieet. Ms, Sporre stated that the maps shocaed such a small amount of the water. She was sure the city caas already aware of that type of information. What the city did not have coas information on the water below ehe surface, That was what MetrapoliCan Council should be providing the cities. Mr. Leek seated that the city had that iniorniation already; and, if they did not, Llzey had access to it without the cost. OTIi�R BUSINESS: A. RECYCLING PRO,TECT COD4fITT�E; Ms. Metcalf stated she hoped the message had gotten through th2C the Recycling project ConmiitCec had no[ disbanded. She stated she did need more subgesCions for mare n:�mes of peoplc �aho would be intcresce�d in being members of the project conmdttee. There were onLy about Cour people uu the cormnietee and she would like a larger representation from the city. ; ( . . . � . ' ' N . � � �[[ ` � FRIDJ`F;X I;I1VII:ONM.�:�TA%, C(MMI;S70N T9ili'lINGi 1P.i1RUAKY 21, 1978 -" P�GF: 6 P4s, Spor.re suggce,�ed ChaL mayUe whaC sltould Ue done was Co publi�h a notice in the paper of ehe otlier avai).ab1.e recycling centers and Chen �si< for inpuL- [rom CIlO CiC7.'LCi15 as to wheeher these recycling cenL'erc were adequate for L'heir use. Yf peopLe were haviitig (�r.obleins wi.Lli tl�is, t11e.n those would Ue the pcople whu v�ould be inL-erested in serving on a projecr conunittee. Nu-. I,c=ek sCaee�I ltiat at Pl�nning Commission, Mr. B�=1Eman had suegeseed thaL- so�reone check into the recycling collec�ion center in St. A1lthony. The EnvironmenCal Convnission highly recamnencied that if the P12nning Commission mernUers kne�a of anyone iuteresied in serving on the Recyciing ProjecC Committee, they submit Lhose names to eitiier Rzy Leek or Connie Metcal£. IMs. $porre staL-ed that s)ze really felt the best way to get members was to fiizd r,ut ho*.a many people were recycling already; and ii those people �aould like tiie convenience oY recyeli_ng in their own communiCy, then those people were the most likely candidates for a recycling project conanil-tee. It was easier to get' people ta indica[e an interest in a recycling center in Fridley than it Soas to get L'hem to volunteer on a project committee right away. Ms. Netcalf st'ated she had already advertised on the front page of the �un Nek�spaper for. people iaterested in serving on a project cemm.ittee and sh� had y,otten oue response. Sh� stated the i.i.iole purpose of setti�i� u�� a cent:er wss to e:nco�ra�e and emphz�i z.e the need foL recycli«7. Slie fe7.t the response to T.his kind o,`. paUlic2tioi; toould also Ue extremel,y sm�ll, mayUe 4-5 pee�Ple. T�len, t:lie feeliiig taould Ue; G?11at i_s the sense oi havin; a recycling center in pridley wiiEn, apparently, so fesa i�cople are inter.ested; hr, Langenfeld suogested that a lead'er of the Edina Pecycling Center come to Fri.dley and give a tal.k�about their center aL' a general-type meeting that would be o��en to the public. I,t was an idea, and possibly some members could be picl:ed up from that type oi thing. Ms, Sporre stated tliat she felt people were more s.�illing to serve on somethind that was already estaUlisL•ed by City Council policy. She felt tkie rec;•cling center really di3 uot necessarily have to waiL- any longer. Thi.s Conunission had already approved tl�e concept, P1r. Langenfeld had presented it to the City Council, aud sl�e wuuld like to see it back on the Ci�y Council floor for discussion. pis. Metcalf stated that the project committee fe1C that was premature. She stated they needed to get moze in£ormation t'ogether bef-ore tha[ was done. She sCaled that the next projcct conunittee's meeting �.as the second 'ruesd�y in March. Mr. L�ngenfeld staL'ed thzt i£ Ms. Metcalf put an inquiry in the newspaper that she also puUlis]i Ch� projecl' conunittce's mectin� date. i ,q � .. � .... Fl q.J-c� f .. J''it'I.DT.LY I;PN7ROtdNiliN'LAT� C�MI�IIS>I0:3 ?9::B'PT.idGs 1?1:�IIRtTAT�Y 21 � 1973 -'� PAGG 7 Thi. Sabi.stina sCal-cd thal' hc was Chairperson of Cl.e DisCricl' 4�14 C��:�+n�unity Survey Project Co�reni.LCcc. �'he questi.on of recycliuf; hacl come up aad the projeci: co7imitCec had decicled noC Co include iL' as iC' really had izoLl�ir.g to �c wil-h schools and educal'ion. lie state:d eheir n.ext mceting wquld be Thuz-;;day, T'ehruary 23, at 7;30 p,m., and the person to tal.lc Co aUouY. reconsidering the recycling quesL-ion o�ouid be p[r. Tom Myhra, Director of Canmvnity ;7chools. Ms. Sporre felt this Commission should send an official let:ter to I�:r. Myhra asking the project co;nmittee to reconsider Chat question for Lhe survey. It �oas an environmental queseion that aifected everyone's life, and recycl.ing coas education. Ms. Metcalf stated she would like to talk to Mr. Myhra and stated she would also write Lhe leCter. The Co:nmissioners were in agreement ihat Ns. i4etcalf write th2 letter. MOT70N by };ee hnn Sporre, seconded by Connie Metcalf-, that [17e Recycling kroject Con�niCtee discussion Ue continued at the next meeting with Che r.espouse to Che District ��14 Coaununity Survey regarding potential use of recycling in gridley. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, tlie motion carried unanimousl.y. . AllJ�tIRAR?ENT. : t•10°_'IOPd by Connie pfetcalf, seconded by David Slbistina, to adjoura Che meeting at 9;45 p.m. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the :noti.on ca�-ried U11fl111!ilGllSly. Respectfully submitted, Ly��:� L Recording Secretary M� MEMO T�: Dick Sobiech, Public Works Director MEMO FROM: Jerrold L. Boardman, City Planner MEMO DATE: February 23, 1978 MEt40 NO.: DS#78-04 RE: General Policy for the Enforcement of the Hqusing Maintenance Code 7he following is a generat outline of Policy that should be fotlowed in implementing the housing maintenance code �in order to carry out the intent of the ordinance as suggested by the Planning Gommission and City Council, T. 4lith the.adoption of the ordinance, the City administration will begin ground work for the systematic enforcement of all rental units. Ttte ground work will include the following steps: a. A shift of personel responsi6ilities to cover enforcement of maintenance code. b. Training session for personel involved in code enforcement. c. Administrative o-�ork program. 1. Rental unit listing 2. Inspection Schedule 3. Procedure development 2, The enforcement program will operate on a complaint basis until August 3i, 1978, at which time rental unit licenses are due. a. Before August 3i, T978, revisions to Chapter 11 wiil be made in order to adjust for additional cost of the program. 3. The enforcement program v�ill operate on a systematic inspection of units after August 31, 1978 in the following manner: a. The rental units will be set up on a rotation basis so as to complete a total unit inspection every two years. b. The licensing fee will stilT come due on the lst of September of every year, and will be based on the total 2 year inspection fee requirements. c. Notice of insgection will be sent to the owner of every rental building prior to the inspection date to allow sufficient time for the owner to notify the tenants of the date and time of inspection. d. Inspection will take place during regular working hours of 8:00 A.M. to 5:Q0 P.M., F4onday through Fridley, 4. After August 31, 1978, complaints �ai11 sti17 have top priority for inspection, 7he change in rotation of untts will be the discretion of the Building Inspector in order to more efficiently handle compiatnts ; '°� �� -�'�^�`emo to Dick`Sobiech Page 2 General Palicy for the Enforcement of the Nousi.ng Maintenance Code in combination with the systematic enfvrcement. 5. Inspection services will be available to home owners on an appointment • basis far a minimal service fee to cover inspection costs. a. M inspection summary will be given to homeowners to notify them of possible problems. b. Tf inspection reveals immediate health, safety hazards, correction notice will be issued. JLB/de cc: Darrel Clark �, . / CI�Y OF FRI➢LEY � PLANNING G�MMI5SION MEETING ' � i ° e CAI,L TO ORDER: Chairperson Harri� called the March 8� 1978, Planning Commission meeting to order at 7:39 p,M, ROLI, CAI,L: Members Present Members Absent: Others Present: Shea, Bergman, Harris, Peterson, Schnabel Langenfeld f�. � � Jerrold Boardman, City Plattner Mr. Peterson arrived at the Planning Commission meeting at 8:30 P.M. Ms. Sehnabel arrined at the Planning Commission meeting at 8:59 P.M, APPF30VE PLANNING COMMISSIflN MINIITES: FEBF?UARY 8i 19'78 M�TIOAi by Ms. Shea, seconded bq Mr. Bergman, to approve the February 8, 19'7$, planning Commission minutes as written. Upon a voice voie, all �roting aye the motion carried unanimously, 1. OF A S�UUU SQUARE FOOT GARDEN GENTER IN THEIR PARRING LOT� ON LOZ' 9r AUDITOR'S STTBDIVISION N0. 94� THE SAME BEING 5351 CENTRAL AVEAtIIE N. E. Public Hearing Open� Chairperson Harris ittdicated that a meeting had been held on February 15, 19'78, at 7;j� P.M, Mr, Harris said that it was a PYorkshop-type meeting that included the Mayor, Mr. Schr�eider (the Ward Councilman), Mr. Menard, Mr. Seeger, aud several of the concerned citizens of the area, and himself, "He said that several problems were discussed that were conttected mith the Menard Cashway Lumber Companq. He said that the potential problems were also discussed that could arise from the proposed Garden Center, He isdicated that he felt some agreements were reached. Chairperson Harris said that Ms. Mary E. Cooneq of 759-�13th Ave. N.E. had called him explaining that she was not able to attend the meeting. He said that she stressed her opposition to the proposed Garden Center. PLANNING CONIl�ISSION MEETING - MARCH 8. 1478 Pa�e 2 Chairperson Harris said that a list of three items was agreed upon at the �'ebruary 15� 1978 meeting: a) Publie Address System off, ezcept in emergencies. b) Eliminate the noisy air conditioning system. c) Truck deliveries betweett the hours of 8:00 A.M, and 9:00 P.M, ONLY Chairperson Harris asked if these three items had been taken eare of. Mr. Menard of Menard Cashway Lumber� 5351 Central Ave. NE, said that theq had shut off the Public Address Sqstem outside the rear building area. He said that there had not been a truek at the operation before 8:00 A.M. or after 9:00 P.M. since the meetixig. He said that he built a saw shed to eliminate some of the noise that the saw was making� and he said that the air conditioning system was bein� worked on by Minnegasco. Mr. See�er of Menard Cashway Lumber Company said that he had received a complaint that truck noise was coming from the direction of the building at 6:15 A,M. on a given morning. He said that the� had checked all the Gnard�s records, and no truck was reported near their ope�ation at that time. He wasn't sure where the noise was coming from. Ms. Mary L. Mathews of 1259 Skywood Lane N.E.� said that the Menard's dumpster truck was emptqing the dumpster-located on ihe lefi side of the Menard's building. She said that the dumping occurred at 6:15 A.M, on a Saturday morning. Mr. Menard said that they had no records of the fact that the dumpster was emptied at that time on any Sat�zrday. Ms. Mathews pointed out that the lumber inventory in the Menards yard was above the fence. She wanted to know when they would be made to abide by the present code�,. Chairperson Harris asked Ms. Mathews if there had been atty improvement at all since the February 15th meeting, Ms. Mathews said that she actually hadn�t been home that much. However, she said that the noise was still bad. She did indicate that she had not recently heard the Fublic Address System. She said that Menards still hadn�t cleaned up their operation from the visual aspect. Ms. Mathews felt that Aenards was a"cheap�� operation, She said that Menards did not want to put money into the cleaning up of the operation, She had come to the realization that she doesn't believe that Menards will ever be cleaned up� She said that she was very bitter over the mhole situation. She didn't feel that Menards was really compatible with the area. She said that it was obvious that they moved into the wrong area and were allowed to expand at will. Now she wanted to kno� what could be done from the citizenry vieWpoint� �_- _ PLANNiNG COMMISSION MEETING - MARCH 8, 1978 Pa�e 3 Mr. Seeger said that in the past six months Menards had done almost everything possible to restore some good-will in the neighborhood. He said they had black-topped the rear area? they had fixed-up the racks� they provided trash barrels in the parking lots and replaced them �hen they v�ere destroyed by people. He said that they quit pushing snow on property that didn�t belong to them. He said Meaards had the loud speakers turned away from the neighborhood residential area and then shortly after that they had the Public Address system turned off entirely at the rear of the building, He said that they had built a saw shed to help eliminate the noise. Mr. Seeger said that Menards no longer allowed the trucks to make deliveries or pick-ups before 8:00 A.M, or after 9:00 P�M, He said that he felt that Menards was trying to do their best to cooperate. He said that Menards eras really trying to do the right things. Chairperson Harris told Mr. Menard that there was a City Ordinance that said storage should not extend above the fences� Mr. Boardman said that storage material had to be screened from the Public Right of Way. He said that all materials that were sereened had to be screened two fee� belovu the highest level of the fence with the magimum height of the fence being eight feet. Mr. Lang of 1278 Skywood Lane said that he mainly opposed the Special Use Permit because of the traffic problem. He said that the Garden Genter �rould only add to already existin$ traffic hazard. He said that he felt that once the intersection improvement was finished� he would have no objectiotts to Menards adding a Garden Center. He felt that the present time was bad for such a venture. He didn�t feel it vras the proper time to enconrage additioaal usage of the area. Ms. Mathews wanted to know how the Menard Gashway Lumber Company could be considered a'�compatible" operation. She said that no one really gives her any arr�swers. She said that the Company originally went in the area as a small remodeling operation and was allowed to expand completely at will, She didn't fee2 it was fair that the residents in the area merely had to ��live" with the fact that the operation is in existence. She said she uaasn�t actually suggesting that Menards completely p�ll out of the area but merely reduce back to its original intent. She felt that as a citizen she had been cheated. Chairperson Harris said that the only answer he had was that there was nothing in the Zoning Codes that prohibited that particular type of operation. He said they were trying to make the best situation of what theq had. He said they only had the codes that were in exisience. He said they could only try to work together to try to make the whole situation a lot more lineable for eneryone involved. PLANNING.COMMISSION MEETING - MARCH 8. 1978 Page 4 Mr. I,angenfeld addressed Mr. I,ang. He said that he understood his position as far as the traffic problem in that area, however, he personally felt that traffic alone was not enoBgh to deny the Special IIse Permit, He said that if it could de�initely be proven it was against the health� safety� and welfare of the people, then possibly it eould be a reason for denial, Mr. Lang agreed that his objections addressed a potential problem, He wanted to know if everyone was going to wait until some tragedy happened before action �ould be taken, He felt that the City should trq to prenent tragedies from happening. He said that the proposed garden center would only add to the problem, He said that if the highway improvement was not scheduled for this time, he would have no objections. He said that the issue was an nnusual situation. He said that not adding to the already eaisting confusiott in that area was the responsibility of the City. He said that the least amou�at of traffic should be encouraged to use that area during the time of the construction. Mr. Langenfeld definitely agreed with Mr, Lartg's comments. He said that he felt the whole area was abnormal as far as travelin� and the traffic situation, He said that :Mr,"I,ang's comments would be kept in mind by the Commission itt making their decision. Mr. Langenfeld asked if Ms. Mathews was satisfied with the meeting that had been conducted on February 15, �978. Ms. Mathews said that she had not been home much during the time since the meeting. She was upset by the 6:15 A.M, incident with the trash recepticle truck and she said she had occasion to be home that afternoon (March 8th) and that the noise was extreme. She said that she wanted Menards to lower the level of their storage so that it wasn't over the fences. She indicated that the main reasons for that request was that by lowering the stacks, Menards would have to lower their inventory and thus they would cut the loading and unloading of the lumber. She really believed that Menards had been allowed to expand at free will and she felt that if there was a code that could control their expansion, then she wanted to see that code enforced. Mr. Lar�genfeld said that at times the Commission came across situations which perhaps as individuals they were not entirely for or whatener (not saying they were for or against the present issue), but he egplained that they had to abide by certain rules and regulations and mith the particular issue it was zoning, etc. He explained that no matter how much the commission members did or did not like a situation there was not mnch they could do other than abide by those rules and regulations. He went on to explain that Menards was requesting a Special Use Permit. He said that the Commission could set certain �stipulations on that permit that could establish a lot of control by the City on the Operation. PLANNING COMMISSION MEE2'ING - MARCH 8 1978 Pa�e 5 Mr. Langenfeld said that in the Planning Commission meeting minutes of January 25, 1978, he had pointed out that in the past Menards had ttot always been cooperative with the City and he definitely agreed that a eomplete study of the fire lanes� traffic flow and general safety, and proper removal of rubbish and proper clean up of the premises take place daily. He said that in other words to give Menards a means of showing the City a genuine display of "good faith��. He felt that since the door had been opened between the parties innolved in the conflict that perhaps an agreement could be made. Mr. Langenfeld asked where the greenhouse would be located. Mr. Seeger said ihat it would be located next to the building, to the North. Chairperson Harris asked how much additional traffic Menards' garden center would generate. Mr. Menard said that they estimated the sales to be approximately $75,000 for the opening period. He pointed out that due to the time involved with obtaining the Special Use Permit, he wasn't sure he would have the time enough to order all that he waxited to for the Garden Cettter venture. He said that he didn't have a figure of how many additiottal people would be generated. He said that he expected that a great nnmber of the garden center customers would be people that already patrottized Menards. Mr. I,ang said that he felt Menards had to have some estimated figures before they ever decided to take on such a nenture. He said that any bnsiness had to justify a gardea center before actually putting one in. He said that there had to be a defittite profit realized and that Menards must have had some figures to base that e$pected profit on. Mr. Langenfeld indicated that Menards had said that the Gardett Center was experimental, He said that possibly during that experiment, i4enards would then estimate exactly what amount of business the Center �rould generate, Mr. I,angenfeld stated that he couldnTt understand why there was so much trouble with the particular situation. fie hoped that Menards and the citizenry could resolve their problems and act accordingly. FIe said that he had never seen such a situation that keeps coming up all the time as problems. Ae hoped that arith Mr. Seeger's help, the situations could be resolved, PZANNING COMMISSION MEETI�G - MARCH 8. 1978 Pa�e 6 Chairperson Harris asked about Mettard�s plans £or a��hoop house", Mr. Menard said that the easiest way to protect the smaller plants would be by use of a hoop house. He said that the poles supporting the hoop house �ould be anchored by cement blocks. Chairperson Aarris asked if it was planned for a In other words� he wanted to know if it would be of the season as well as all the fencing, etc. temporary structure. removed at the end Mr. Menard said that at tht end of the "season" everything would be removed from the parking area. Mr. 5eeger said that some of the plans for the Garden Cettter were vague because of the delays they were hanin� getting the Special Use Permit, He said that they hadn't gotten to the point of the actual planning because they wanted to make sure they could get a Permit. Ms. Mathews said that she atrongly opposed Menard�s Garden Center. She said it would add to the already deteriorating situation of noise and visual pollution. The intersection mith its forthcoming upgrading would lend to an already existing traffic hazard. She felt that at that time� the proposed addition of a Garden Center would ottly contribute to the already deteriorating ennironment on the homes in the area. MOTION by Ms. Shea, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld� to close the Public Hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously. The Public Hearing vaas closed at 8:31 p,M, Ms. Shea said that she had mixed feelings on the issue. She said that she didn't like the ��hoop house�� that Menard�s was proposing. She said that the traffic in the area couldn't passibly get any worse. She said that a person actually took their lives in their own hands when they traveled in that area. She said that it was greatly against the public health, safety, and welfare. Mr. Bergman said that he felt awkward about the conflicts that were involved with the request. He said that there really wasn't much that could be done about some of the problems because they were caused by the Zonings of the area. He felt that the cause of some of the problems was merely the incompatibility of the dif£erent zonings abutting each other, Iie said that since they were in the process of review�:tig the Zoning Codes} some of those issues would be studied at that time. PLANNING COMMISSI�N MEETING - MARCH 8 1978 pa�e 7 Mr. Bergman a$reed that there was a traffic problem in the area. He personally didn't conelude that the difference in the amount of traffic generated by the addition of the Garden Center would specifically change the situation from non-hazardous to a hazardous. Mr. Bergman said that Menards would hane to abide by the ordinances governing the outside storage of his inventory. Mr. Bergman said that directly effecting the request, the Garden Cenier would not be adjacent to the residential area. He said that it was well screened from the residential area� He didn't think that it had any direct bearing on any of the residential conflicts with Menards, Mr. Langenfeld said that his general opinion was that if the entire situation was to be improved, then the improvement should be made by Menards improving the existittg facility, He said that he did not feel that Menards would suffer a hardship in the enent that the particular garden center did not exist. He said that perhaps in the coming years, the traffic flow would be improved and Menards history would most likely be a different story. He said at that time, perhaps, the Commission could act again on the issue. Mr. Boardman said that from a Planning standpoint there were real problems with the request, He said that the City of Fridley was trying to eliminate the temporary-type requests. He said that because of the type of situation and because it was a temporary operation it appeared to be a haphazard operation. He said that it seemed to be merely thrown together. He said that the fence in existence on the Menards property avas basically less than desirable type of fencing. He said that it has been banged around and had many dents in it. He said that from the visual aspect, it just didn't look good. He said that Menards didn't appear to want to make any type of financial commitment to make the operation work. He said they merely wanted to try it as an experiment at the expense of the neighbors and the City. He felt that the purpose would be defeated by allowing anythixig but a total commitment by a business for this type of an out- side operation. Chairperson Aarris reminded the Commission that there were certain vehicles that the Commission could use if, in its wisdom, decided to permit such an operation, and that was by use of stipulations on the Special IIse Permit. MOTION BY Mr. Langenfeld� seconded by Ms. Shea, that the Planning Commission recommend denial of the request for a Special Use Permit, SP #78-01� by Menard Cashwa,y Lumber: Per Fridley City Code, Section 205.1�1� 3,N� to alloau the development of a 5,000 square foot garden center in their parking lot, on Lot 9, Auditor's 5ubdivision No. 94, the same being 535� Central Avenue N. E. PLANNING COMMISSION MEEEING - MARCH 8. 1978 Pa�e 8 Mr. Langenfeld said that some of the reasons for his recommending denial were that he did not feel that the laek of a garden center �ould create a hardship on the existing business. He said that it was a speculative venture that Menards was hoping to undertake and the temporary nature of the entire garden center concept did not meet to his -;iking. �e said that he was deeply concertted about the already abnormal traffic situation. He said that he was not anti- bnsiness� but he felt it was the proper motion to make. Ms. Shea said that Mr. Menard had mentioned the possibility of returning next year �ith the request for a garden center and she hoped that he would decide to do that. She said that maybe a one= year cooling off period might be a good idea. She said that possibly by negt year they wouldn�t have the m�uy underlying problems. Mr. Bergman re�enforced Ms. Shea�s comments. He felt that without quastion the underlying neighborhood problems had put an excessive b�rden ou the issue. He said that he hoped Menards paid some attention to the discussion that had gone on and he hoped they would re-address the request at a future time. Chairperson Harris said that he would vote against the motion because he didn�t feel there was a strong enough case for denial. He said that the traffic situation was not the petitioner�s problem� he said it �as the City�s. He said that the situation between the neighborhood and Mr. Menard had been an on-going situation which he didn't feel the City� in the past, had done its best to resolve nntil recetttly. He didn�t believe that the manner itt which the whole situation mas handled was in the best interest of the Cit�, the neighbors� or Mr, Menard. Chairperson Harris said that he did not like semi-temporary operations. However, he was not certain that the City really wanted that garde� eenter at that location, and that maybe in another year it would be decided that it would be better at a different location� if at all. He said that he had not heard a valid reason to dettq the Special Use Permit reqnest. Chairperson Harris reminded the Commission that the burden of denial for a Permit Was upon the City. He said that the burden of proof for a varianee was upon the petitioner to show a hardship. Mr. Boardman said that he was not necessarily against the granting of a Special IIse Permit for the Garden Center in general. He was against the temporary feature of the garden center. He said it was the type of thing that the City of Fridley was trying to clean-up. He said the temporary garden center at that location would be at the expesse of the visual aspects of the entire shopping center. Mr. Peterson said that a precedent had been established when the City allowed Holidag Village to f'try out" their garden center for a number of years. He felt that the City had an obligation to encourage that type of operation� He said that the City did �ave an obligation to help businesses in the City. PI,AI3NING COMAiISSION MEE'PING - MARCA 8. 1978 Pa�e 9 Mr. Boardman said that the City of Fridley could not continue to allow temporary operations within parking lots to see if they will or will noi "arork", He said that he really felt there were other locations in the Men�rd's operation where they could ��try�� a garden center on a temporary basis where it wouldn�t contribute to the visual pollution in the area. Mr. Bergman said that even though they were unable to come up with a specific code related to the reasons for denial, he felt that there were many concerns that were a11 relating to the outside expansion of the Menard�s activity. Mr. Langenfeld emphasized the fact that he was not against business. He said that he was amare of the procedures in which Special Use Permits could or could not be denied, especially in the legal aspects. Ae felt that the whole situation was very interesting because he was getting the feeling that any time a citizen wanted to request something that could be hard to get�, that psrson could apply for a Speeial Use Permit and because o£ the legal aspects they wonld be able to be granted the Permit _ and_: they would have the Commission "licked��! UPON A VOICE VOTE� Ms. Shea, Mr. Bergman, and Mr. Langenfeld voting aye; Mr. Peterson and Mr. Harris voting nay; and Ms. Schnabel abstaining; the motion carried. Ghairperson Harris indicated that the request for a 5pecial Use Permit� SP #?8-01� by Menard Cashway Lumber: Per Fridley City Code, Section 205.101,3,N, to allovu the deaelopment of a 5,00� square foot garden center in their parking lot� on Lot 9, Auditor's Subdivision No. 94� the same being 5351 Central Avenue NE was recommended to City Council for denial. He said that it would go to City Council on March 20� 1978. 2. V. rLirlv��.tt nua�t�.tvav� PLYMOIITH ADDITION� AVENUE NE,) AV #�78-01 BY JOSEPH SINIGAI,IO: VACATE OT � BLOCK 1� AND ADJACENT TO AND NORT$ OF LOT 30� BI,OCK $� EAST OF 3rd STREET NE AND WEST OF IINIVERSITY Mr. Boardman said that the request was to vacate y8th Avenne between IIniversity Avenue and Third Street. He said it was similar to �ahat had been requested on 47th Avenue. He said that the reason for the vacation request was to make another buildable lot in the area. He said that there was a lot to the south of y.8th Avenue that was 38.1 feet and with the vacation� it would result in a buildable lot. He said that the street involved was 60 feet wide, He said that there was a storm and sanitary sewer in the street. He said that utility easments would have to be maintained at the time of the vacation. PL9NNING GOMMISSION MEETING - MARCH 8, 1978 Pa�e 10 Upon further investigation� Mr. Boardman diseovered that the sewer systems in the street didn�t appear to be connocted to anything and it wasn't known what it was used to drain. He said he would� of course, check further on the problem. Chairperson Harris said that as it stood� Mr. 5inigalio had a 38foot lot and with the 30 feet from the street �acation� he would hane a resulting 68 foot lot which could be used figuring his total lot area. However� Mr. Harris poittted out, he may not be able to build on the north 25 feet of the lot. Mr. Board�an explained it would be possible to construct a living structure with a detached gara�e tucked behind the house and the driveway oPer the utility easement, it xould be possible to bnild a 33 foot wide house� �ithout variances. Mr. Bergman asked what the condition of the street was. Mr. Sitti�alio said that it was blacktop but had no curb system. He said that the street did not cross Uninersity 9venue but was plowed in the winter. Chairperson Harris said that the Commission should have an opportunity to talk to the adjacent land owner. Mr. Sinigalio asked what would happen if the adjacent land owner didri't want the extra 30 feet that Would come from the vacation of the street. Chairperson Harris explained to Mr. Sinigalio how street dedications came about and the proper procedure that woald have to be followed when vacating the street. He said that in the event the adjacent land owner did not Want the other 30 feet, Mr� Sinigalio would have to obtain a deed from that person for that other 30 feet. Mr. Bergman suggested that the petitioner keep in touch with Mr. Boardman to see what he found out about the sewer systems in 48th Avenue. He sa3d that Mr. Boardman�s findings may hane some effect on how interested the petitioner would still be about the vacation request. MOTTON by �r. Bergman, seeonded by Mr. Peterson� that the Planning Commission co�tinue the Vacation Request, SAV �78-01, by Joseph Sinigalio: Vacate 48th Avenue NE (adjacent to and South of Lot 16� Block 1� Plymouth Addition� and adjacent to and North of Lot 30� Block 8' Plymouth Addition� East of 3rd Street NE and �est of IIniversity Avenue ftE) until such time that utility needs had teen identified and checked out and identification and contact of the other property owner has been accomplished and a� the petitioner�s satisfaction to return. IIpon a voice vote, all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously. Chairperson Harris declared a break at 9;35 P�M� PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - MARCH 8. 1978 Pa�e 11 3. Mr, Boardman said that it regarded the HUD pro�ram, He said that it would be used to get monies released for the Program. He said that what the Commission had in their possession �as a copy of the environmental review. He said that notices had been put in the papers for response by March 10� 1978. He said that they received no responses . He said that after March 10th another notice would be put in the papers askittg for release of fuads. He said that it would be published March 15, 1978. He said that they would request the release of funds by letter! to HIID, on March 20, 1978� for the rehabilitation program. MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr. Bergman, that the Planning Commission reeeive the Environmental Aeview Record and concur with same. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Ms; Bchnabel mentioned two newspaper articles she had talked about at a previous Planning Commission �e�ting, She felt that the articles did pertain to the Hyde Park area and could be items that may be discussed regarding the rehabilitation of that area. She said that one of the points addressed the taxing issue. 1. "Localities should revise their t� codes so that families who improve their homes needn�t fear immediate� high property- tax hikes. St. Louis offers a 10-year abatement, for instance. And on Bostom's model, cities should set up one- stop officies to help people with rehabilitation problems.�� She said that the other point addressed the buildittg codes: 2. "Cities must cut down on the underbrush of regulations, permits� and special taxes imposed on �'rehab" activity. They should enact separate housing codes for rehabilitation somewhat less strin�ent than those for new housing." Ms. Schnabel explained that it had to be realized that a great deal of the work that was being done on rehabilitation was being done by the owner. She said that maybe some of the codes were too stringent and possibly codes could be adopted that were a little more lenient so that the home owner could bring the house into "safety" but not be burdened by great costs. Mr. Boardman said that it could possibly be sent to Community Development for their research and discussion� prior to the Planning Commission actuallg discussing it. PLANNING COMMISSIO� MEETING - MARCH 8. 1978 Pa�e 12 Mr. Boardman said that he didn�t think there would be a lot of '+do it yourselfn type items covered by the HIID program. He said that since Federal monies would be innolaed, before any money would be released, inspectors would have to go to the site and make sure that the job was done correctly and that it was up to the code. He said that the City mas recommending that contractors be hired to do the work so that the work would have to be done correctly before any money would be released. Ms. Schnabel was not in full agreement with that concept. Chairperson Harris said that he didn't think the City had the choice.- He said that the way the State-wide building code was set up was that the City could not be more restrictive or less restrictive. He said that if a City was to have a building code it had to adopt that particular building code. He said to get variances to the Buildin� Codes was a very difficult process. Mr, Boardman said that he had written to the City of St. Louis asking for more information on the 10-year tau abatement program. He said that he still had not received a response to his request. Ms. Schnabel felt that there were many people in the Hyde Park area that could be reluctant to do some improvement because of the taxes that would be assessed on the property. 1�. RECEIVE LETTEA TO RICHARD HARRIS FROM RESERVE SUPPLY COMPANY MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Ms. Shea, to receive the letter to Richard Harris from Reserve Supply Company. Chairperson Harris said that the letter was in response to a discussion that Dick Sobiech and he had with Mr. Robert J. Wanzong of the Chamber of Commerce. He said that the letter was letting them know that they could go ahead with the work of reco�ification. UPOId A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously at 10:03 P.M. 5. �j�4��'j 1� c REGREATION COMMISSION MINU'�ES: J AR . MOTION by Mr. Peterson� seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to receive the minutes of the January 30� 1978, Parks and Recreation Commission. Mr. Langenfeld said that sometimes a very important item could be in a letter that could be very pertinent. He wanted to know if referenced letters could be made a part of the minutes. Mr. Boardman said that the Commission generally discussed the parts of letters that they felt were pertinent and that x�ould be written up in the minutes, Iie didn't feel that in most cases it would be necessary to include the actual letters as part of the minutes. IIPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. The minutes were received at 10:08 P.M. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - MARCH 8, 1978 Page 13 r� MOTION by Ms. Shea, seconded by Mr. Bergmart, to receive the February 2, 197$ Human Resources Commission minutes, Chairperson Harris said that he �as sorry to hear that Ms. Shea would no longer be Chairperson of the Human Resources Gommission. He said that the Planning Commission was sorry to lose her. Chairperson Harris asked what was happening regarding the Tenant/ Landlord Project Committee, Ms. Shea felt that the Committee was presently looking for direction. She said that the Committee wanted to be more of an action �roup rather than an education-type group. Mr. Boardman said that it should be pointed out to the Committee that if they want to have action items it would have to be a recommettdation that would hane to be acted upon by the City Council. He said that if the City Council approved an action committee, it could �ive the authority to the Committee to do such items. He said that at the present time the Tenant/Landlord Project Committee did not have the authority but wanted to have the action items, Ms. Shea said that originally the Project Committee was set up as an education group but that they no longer wanted to do that, UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. �he Human Resources Commission minutes of February 2, 197$ were received at 10:11 P,M, 7. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: FEBRUARY 14, 197$ MOTIQN by Ms, Schnabel, seconded by Ms, Shea, to receive the Appeals Commission minutes of February 11�� 19�8, Upon a voice vote, all votittg aye, the motion carried unanimously, The minutes were received at 10:14 P,M. � MOTION by Mr. Bergman, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to receive the Community Development Commission minutes of February 1y, 1978, Mr. Langenfeld noted the resignation of Mr. Lindblad, Ae said that he had contributed a$reat deal in the last few years. Mr. Bergman said that there was a brief discussiott regarding the Advisory Standards for Land Use Regulations, Ae said that under the subject of garages� Community Development Commission restated its consensus that garages should be a requirement. PLAN�TING COMMISSION MEETING - MARCH 8. 1978 Pa�e 14 Mr. Bergman said that Community Development mould like to be kept aware of Noise Ordinance revisions particularly concerning snowmobiles He said that Community Development wanted to maintain the position they presently had �ith the En¢ironmenial Quality Commission. Mr. Langenfeld asked for an explanati�n of the first sentence of the fourth paragraph on Page 3 of the minutes. He said that the word "if�� seemed very strong. Mr. Bergman indicated that the word "if" could be removed because there was snowmobiling allowed in the City of Fridley on the Sears property. Mr. Ber�man said that Community Development was getting back into the '�act�� regarding Bikeway/Walkway Plan. He felt that policy and direction had to be resurfaced regarding the Bikeway/Walkway Plan, He said that they would probably looking for direction from the Plannittg Commission, UPON A VOICE VOTE� all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously, The February 14, 19�8, Community Development Commission minutes w�re received at 10:23 P.M. 9. �OTION by Mr. Langenfeld, secoxided by Mr. Bergman, to receive the Environmental Quality Commission minutes of February 21, 1978, Chairperson Harris asked what was happening on the Recycling Center. Mr. Langenfeld said that Connie Metcalf was working on it. Mr. Bergman said that in the Planning Commission Meeting minutes of February 8s 1978, he made the statement: �'Mr. Bergmatt referred to to the Recycling Project Committee Report. He explained the workings of a Recycling Collection Center in St. Anthony. He said that it would be worthwhile for someone Yrom the Environmental Quality Commission to do an observation on that cexiter.+t Mr. Bergman was disappointed that the other members of the Planning to that statement and suggestiott. the mittutes did not read that Commission also gave full support Mr. �angenfeld said that he did indicate to the members that the Planning Commission members all believed Mr. Bergmans su�gestion was worthwhile. Mr. Langenfeld referred to Page 2 of the minutes, the second paragraph. He wanted'to emphasize the comment made by Ms. Sporre as to where the threshold would be in regards to the Noise Impact Statement. He wanted to create an awareness of the fact that a threshold definitely was important. PT��PTP�ING COMMISSION MEETING - MARCH 8 1g78 Pa�e 15 Chairperson Harris wanted to know what was meant by ��Noise Impact Statement". �Ir. Langenfeld quoted a statement, �'The general provisions of the Impact Statemettt - No o�ner of any land shall commence construction o� cause eonstruction to be commenced on any siructure covered by this section unless a Noise Impact Statement has first been approved as provided in ihis section.�� Mr. Langenfeld then quoted another statement. ��The Noise Impact Statsment - includes all residential, office, commercial, industrial, etc.�* Mr. Langenfeld said that it came to the general conclusion of the Enaironmental Commission that those statements were too harsh and more restrictive than ever. He wanted to know where the ++line�� was to be drawn for the threshold, He said that the Environmental Commission wanted to completely abolish it, however� he said that the provisions of a Noise Impact ,Statement should still be available. Chairperson Harris said that the Enaironmental Commission should arrive at some recommendations and then the Planning Commission could discuss them. Mr. Langettfeld said that a Noise valuable tool to have available, the Ordittance as such. Impact Statement was a very but they were not putting it in Mr, Langenfeld referettced the third paragraph on Page 6 of the Environmental Commission meeting minutes. ��The Environmental Commission highly recommended that if the Planning Commission members knew of anyone interested in serving on the Reeycling Project Committee, they submit those names to either Ray Leek or Connie Metcalf,+� UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. The Environmental Quality Commission minutes of Februarq 21, 1978 were received at 10:33 P.M. 10, RECEIVE AMINDED PARK & OPEN SPACE PLAN iTENTATIVE) Mr. Boardman said that Staff was in the process of revising the Park & Open Space Plan. He said that it would be before the Planning Commissiott on March 22, 1978, He indicated that Mr. Charles Boudreau would be at the March 22nd meeting. He said that a Public Hearing was schednled (tentatively) for April 5� 1978, Mr. Boardman said that the Planning Commission would receive a copy of the Park & Open Space Plan before the planned meetings. 11. OTHER A) ADVISORY STANDARDS FOR LAND USE REGULATION Mr. Boardman e�lained that the pamphlet from the Metropolitan Council had gone through all the Commissions, He said that recommendations had been made and it was now up to the Planning Commission as to what they wanted to do with the issue. PLANNING COMMISSION MEE`FING - MARCH 8, 1978 Pa�e 16 Mr. Bergman said that there had been a misunderstanding regarding the Adivsory Standards for Land IIse Re�ulation pamphlet. He said that the Commuttitq Development Commission had understood that the information was just for informational purposes and they had not reviewed the issue or made any recommendations. He said that Community Development wanted to re-look at the article. Mr. Boardman said that it had been the original intent, but that different Commission had made recommendations. He sa�d that he would have the item put on the Agenda for Community Development, Mr. Boardman suggested that the Planning Commission discuss the Advisory Standards for Land Use Regulation at the time th� discussed the Zoning Code. B, MII�IO TO NASIM M. QURESHI FROM DICK SOBIECH Chairperson Harris explained that Mr. Qureshi had received a memo on the subject of HUD Small Cities Program. Mr. Boardman explained that the Program had changed somewhat in that Comprehensive Programs were being looked at this year in which the City would be applying for a three-year step Program. iie said that if the Program was approved it would approve monies over a three-year period in which the City of Fridley would be funded certai.n numbers of dollars for those three years. He indicated that it was merely a tentative program that was up for discussion. He said that the City Council would discuss it at their March 2�, 1978, discussion meeting. He said that the City didntt have all the information necessary because the Federal Gonernment hadn't written all the rules and regulations for the Program, He said that he had submitted a list of recommendations for projects and programs over that three-year period. He said that all the Planning Commission members would receive a copy of that list. C. MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to receive the memo to Dick Sobiech from Jerrold L. Boardman regarding General Poli�y for the Enforcement of the Housing Maintenance Code. Mr, Boardman said that Item 3a was set up on the Staff time that would be available. He said that it was set up on the basis of every two years because the Planning Commission wanted a review of the Housing Maintenance Code and the operation of it after a two year period. Mr. Bergman had questions regarding #5 of the memo. He said he had known of cases where an inspector had been invited into a building for helpful advice only to end up with the owner bein$ issued tickets for a number of items that would have to be corrected within a certain period of time or else fines would be levied. He didn't want to have that sort of thing happening, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - MARCH 8. 1978 PaKe 17 Mr. Boardman indicated that if an Inspecotr came across one of the seven iarmediate health/safety hazards� that the owner would be iaformed that the particular item/s would have to be corrected. He said that the violation/s were not only hazardous to the immediate home owner but would also be dangerous to surrounding neighbors. He said that those would be the onlY items that the Inspectors would be able to issue tags for. Ms. Shea pointed out that the Appeals Process could be exercised if the home owner felt the tag issued was unjustified. UPON A VOICE VOTE� all voting aye� the motion carried unattimously. The memo was received at 10:�7 P,M. D, HtIMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEE2ING: MARCH 2, 1978 MOTION by Ms. Shea� seconded by Ms, Schnabel, to receive the March 2� 1978, minutes of the Human Resources Commission meeting. Ms. Shea said that the item she wanted to discuss with the Planning Commission was the Request for Funding for a Medical Ethics Program by R. John Singh� Ph.D. Ms. Shea indicated that Mr. Singh had stated that there would be no philosophizing in his presentations. He said that he would simply present the rights of the citizens alottg with the laws governing those rights. Ms. Shea said that the Human Resources Commission felt that Mr. Singh�s request was worthwhile as a Pilot Program for the City of Fridley and they had voted to request for $500 from the City to help sponsor the Program. Mr. Boardman. said that the Grant Application had been submitted in error. He said that the names of the City of Fridley� the Human Resources Commission� and Ms. Shea had been used without` going through the approval of City Council, Ms. 6chnabel felt that hospitals should sponsor that iype of funding rather than the City of Fridley. Chairperson Harris didn�t feel that the City of Fridley should enter into the issue. He felt that it was something that probably should be done� but felt it would be better if sponsored by hospitals' etc. Ms. Shea agreed, except she pointed out that part of Mr. Singh's presentation was presenting the rights of the lay-people which was not always what Was heard from the Medical profession. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - MARCH 8. 1978 Pa�e 1$ Mr. Peterson said that there were several points that he was in disagreement with: 1) It was not really the City�s function; 2) When people start discussin� �uthanasia and Abortion an area that the City of Fridley did not belong existed, He didn't feel that a person could discuss those particular items without some type of philosophizing or some type of ethical� religious position, and that was not the City's responsibility. Mr. Zangenfeld agreed that various rights�should be brought �o the attention of the lay-people that theq may not be aware of, He said that if the request was approved as written� it would give the Planning Commission's stamp-of-approval and the City's endorcement and therefore he could not agree with the Human Resources Commission. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. The minutes were received at 10:58 p.M. MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, that the Planning Commission not concur with the Human Resources Commission recommendation as far as funding was concerned. Chairperson Harris said that he felt it was a worthwhile project but wasn't sure it should be at a City level, UPON A VOICE VOTE� Mr. Bergman� Mr. Harris= Mr. Peterson� Ms. Schnabel, and Mr. Langenfeld voting aye; Ms. Shea voting nay; the motion carried, E. ENERGY COMMITTEE Chairperson Harris indicated that a Ms. Harper from the State of Minnesota Energy Commission met with him and Mr. Boardman regarding the formation of an Energy Comraittee for the City of Fridley. Chairperson Harris said that a Energy Committee should be established directly under the Planning Commission because of the wide realm of interest in the item. He said that the first item that should be established would be a Scope of the Project and try to set up a recommendation for an Energy Policy. He said that the rest of the "package�� would probably be handled with a separate project committee or an on-going Commission, Mr. Boardman said that the direction the Energy Committee would go would to set up a City Policy on Energy and within that Policy there may be recommendations for the carrqing out of the Energy-Wide Program that could possibly include CETA personnel that could include housing evaluations that mould provide services to the people to evaluate their energy consumption within the residential units. He said that it would be the direction that would be desired from the Energy Committee. PLANNING COMMISSION MEE"PING - MARCH 8. 1978 Pa�e 1q Chairperson Harris pointed out that at the present time, the Energy area was not an area where Staff had a lot of expertise. He felt that the people on the Energy Committee would have to be people knowledgeable in the Energy area. Mr. Boardman said that he wasn't sure how far the City of Fridley would want to gei into the Energy issue. He said that definitely a scope/objectives had to be set up for the limits upon which the Energy Committee would operate and that had to be set by the Planning Commission. Chairperson Harris indicated that it was brought up mainly for thinking matter at that time. Fie asked that the Commission members give the subject some thought and possibly come up with a Scope and decide what areas the Energy Committee should get into and it would be discussed again at another Planning Commission meeting. Mr. Boardman said that he definitely wanted to hear from the Planning Commission what direction theq felt that the Energy Committee should go, F. LETTER OF RESIGNATION FROM HUBERT F LINDBLAD Mr. Bergman read the letter of resignation given to him by Hubert F, Lindblad. �+While I have enjoyed the opportunity to serve the Community of Fridley on various committees the past several years, I find T now have too many conflicting personal committments to continue. Therefore? I am submitting my resignation from the Community Development Committee effective February 15> >978." MQTION by Mr. Bergman, seconded by Mr, Peterson� that the letter of resignation from Hubert F. Lindblad be received by the Plannin� Commission and sent on to City Council with the request that a replacement be named at the earliest opportunity. UPON A VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Chairperson Harris said that� with regretsa the letter was received and would be sent on to City Gouncil at 11:t3 p�M. ADJQURNMENT MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr, Bergman, to March 8, 1978r Planning Commission meeting. Upon a voting aye� Chairperson Harris declared the Planning adjourned at 11:13 P�M, Respectfully submitted, �� .,� MaryL Carhill Recording Secretary adjourn the voice vote, all Commission meeting _ _ _ -_ � � � - - _ __ _ _ — - - -- __ __ _ _ _ _ -- `< - _ --�3,'��! --�>--1 1`_7_� ---- --___ _ ._ __ ' �J -- --_ __ _ __ _ _-- �� ' ,�� 7�s ��1 � _ �s� �c�'�J` -�� C�d � I ___ ____ - -_ _ _ �_ _ - �-- _ _ __ J `� ?� �� _ _ �O �-3 S/ �i a .> %�n. � �) UG° l�4� . __ _ <� _ _ _ _ -__ _ _ � � � a � �� ..� .�.��, �� - _ __ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ . _ _ __ _ _- _ . .:-� - - _ _- _ _ �---_____-- _ - ------__ _- - _ ; �:, . �,. �..� ��-� ,�.. � ' • Y ►: w. �.. ...-. . �kti�,..: . _. ;; , 64 . :. tV(inn�s�'c� �'o[lu�ion Con�roi A��ncy December 2, 1977 Mr, Geor�e Alexander, Jr. Regional Administrator Region V, Environnental Protection Agency 230 South Dearborn Street Chicago, ILL 60604 Dear Mr. Alexander: The attached information describes the attainment and nonattain- ment designations approved by the ifinnesota Pollution Control Agency Board on A'ovember 22, 1977. You will notice that these designations leave much of the state in the unclassifiable category for all pollutants bvt Nitrogen D3oxide. As we discussed with S+'ayne Pearson, we are no�a analyzing additional information which we expect will allow us to recommend designations for most of the presently unclassified areas at the Board meeting on December 20, 1917, After that meeting, we will immediately submit any additional designations to you as amendr�ents to the a.ttached designations. I hope that this will allow you enough time to meet the February 3, I97S publication deadline. Tliank you for the assistance your staff has provided in making these designations. If you have any questions, please contact Brad Beckham (612 - 296-7265) or Susan Wier�aan (612 - 296-7358). SincereZp, (../�l ard 1. iik, P,E, Director Division of Air Quality /rmg ccs Tobert Duprey, US $PA, Region V Lt. Gov. Alec Olson Attachments '� 1935 Wes1 Counry Road B2, R�sevllle, Minnesola 55N3 Re�ional Oilices • Dululh / 6ioincid ! Foi�us Folls / hlaisl �oll / RochcslcU Rosovllle [quai Oppo�NnNy finpioyf�r PARTIAL MINUTFS: R[CEIVE AT Pl_ANP�ING COM�IISSTON �1EETING 3/8/73 HUMAI3 RESUURCES CO��P,i?SSION ��TIIdG ` MARCH 2, 1978 MEMBERS PRESENT: Barbara Shea, Ned Storla, Harold Belgum, Mary Jo Dobson I�MBERS ABSENT: David Thiele OTHERS PRESENT: Pete Fleming, Administrative Assistant Betty Christlieb, Housing Specialist R. John Singh, Ph.D., Augsburg College Larry Dobson, Tenant/Landlord Project Coam�ittee Chairperson CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Shea cal7.ed the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m. Ms. Shea stated she and the Commission would like to congratulate Mr. David Thiele on the birth of a baby daughtez. APPROVAL OF FEE. 2, 1978, HIR�IAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION by Mary .To Dobson, seconded by Ned Storla, to approve the Feb. 2, 1978, Human Resources Commission minutes a� caritten. Upon a voice vote, a1,1 voting aye, the motion carried unznimously. REqUEST FOR FUNDING FOR A MEDICAL ETHICS PROGRAM• R. John Sin�h Ph.D.• Dr. Singh stated that he taught philosophy and history at Augsburg College: He was also associaCed with North Central Bible College. He stated that he . had contacted Ms. Shea through the City Manager regarding the medical ethics program, He stated he had taught the medical ethics course at Augsburg five times. He also had just concluded a five-week, two-hour lecture series on medical ethics at Redeemer Lutheran Church in Eridley. He felt this was nut only a timely subject, but a very interesting subject to many peogle; an3 people should become more involved than they were in these areas of problems a�fecting the health rights of patients. Since he had been in the pastorate in South America, he had a'natural outlook on coum�unity affairs. He had worked with seven churches in a district which involved the clinics, schools, and churches. He felt the subject of inedical ethics might just as well be done on a community level in Fridley. Dr. Singh stated it was a matter of funding, because speakers had to be paid. He stated he had spent an enormous amount of time preparing the proposal to the Minnesota Humanities Commission of which the Co�nission members had a copy. He stated the proposal had not been approved by the Minnesota Humanities Commission, but that commission felt it needed revising. ��, � PARKS & RF.CREATION COMMI5SION MEETING J.tsNUlSRY 30, 1978 MEMBERS P�ESEN'P: Robin Suhrbier, Jan Seeger, Leonaxd pioore, Betty MPCh MEMBEP.S ABSENT: Bob Peterson ; OTIiEfiS P;tESERTT: Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director ,Tack Kirk, Program Director Michael Fr.anzen, Planning Department , Ray Leek. Ylanning Aide Dan Allen, 6200 Rice Creed Dr. ; Kathy Divine, 6170 Benjamin St. N.E. Glenn Van flulzen, F.Y.S.A. PresidenC Bernie H�rtman, F.Y.S.A. Judy Aengstler, Girls' Broomball CI�.LL TO ORDEIt: pice-Chairpersoa 5uhrbier callad the meeting to order at 7;40 p.m. APPAOVAL OF JAI�'iTARY 9, 1978, PARKS & RLC22EATION CO;�IISSIOn M1DT[JTE5: Ms. Suhrbier stated Chat oe page 5, fourth paragraph, the second sente:nce shouZd read; "She said Mr. Hansen, H•A.P. President, had made a good oo;_nt- when he said something should be done to revise the priority so that the younger kids could get earlier ice time." M4:ION by Betty Mech, seconded by Leonard M�ore, to approve the ,7anuary 9, 1978, Parks & Recreation Commission mir.utes as amended. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. APPROVAL 6F AGENDA: The following two items were added to the agenda; Naturalist position - Item 5 under "'ilirector`s Report" Columbia Heights Conununicating Conference - Item 2 under "New �usiness�� MOTION by BeLty Mech, seconded by Leonard Moore, to ap�rove the agenda with the above two additi.ons. Upon a voice vote, all vo*_in& aye, the motion carried unanimously. ! '�, ..� �'7 PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING JANiJARY 30, 1978 - PAGE 2 DIRECTOR'S REPORT: 1. Snowmobiling Area (gears' Lease) Ner. Boudreau stated that the City had signed a lease until April lst for the Sears' property. The property had been posted and a parking lot had been constructed at the north end, They were putting a 6rief article in the gun notifying the residents that this was the only recognized, authorized ' snowmobiling area within the City of Eridley, Theq were urging people to use it and, hopefully, the lease agreement could be instituted at a much earlier 3ate the next year so that people could become accustomed to that area. It may reduce some of the snowmobiling in Locke Park and North Park. 2. Letter from Anoka �ounty Mr. Boudreau stated that the Commissioners had a copy of the letter he had received f'rom Mr. David Torkildson,Director of Parks & Recreation of Anoka County in answer to P1r, Boudreau's questions regarding allocations of ice time. Mr. $oudreau stated that regarding the information the Commission had that the City had no Monday through Thureday ice times, Mr. To:kildson had pointed out that the city did and had listed the dates, Mr. Torkildson had also stated that at some point in time in the past, the Aockey �}s�ociation had met with Che M.A•Ii.A. Di.strict and the priorities were chaaged so that Df.A.H.A• had a higher priority. This was a diffexent impression than Mr. goudreau and the Commiscioners had received. Mr. Boudreau �tated that the positive fact coming from the letter was that Mr. Torkildson was willing to sit down and talk out possible solutioes. I�y:. Boudreau sl-ated there was a six-month arena on the planning 6oard for the northern section of the county which should eliminate some of the pressures on Columbia prena. Mr, goudreau stated he had talked with Mr, Jack Hansen, H.A.F. President, and they would be meeting with Mr. Torkildson and he would report back to the �ommission at a later date. Ms. Suhrbier referred to page 2, paragraph 3, of Mr. Torkildson's letter in whfch Mr. Toricildson stated, "I would also recommend that recreation directors and associations discuss with their schools the possibility of accepting hockey as part of their athletic curriculum and a11ow them to use Columbia Arena between the hours of 8;00 a.m. aad 3;00 p.m." Ms. Suhrhier stated she would be concerned about that as that was when children were supposad to be in school. She asked Mr.. $oudreau to clarify this with Mr. Torkildson. Ms. Seeger stated she felt Mr. Torkildson did not te11 how they came up with these priorities. She stated he had also mentioned that prior to the building of Arena ii, there were skaters using the Eacility until 2:00 a.m. The kids that needed the ice time were the young ones and there was no way they could have them skating until 2;00 a.m. MOTION by Jan �eeger, seconcied by 73etty piech, to receiva Mr. Torkildson's letl-er dated January 20, 1978. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. �� PARKS & RL'CREATiON COMMISSiON MEETING JANUARY 30, 1978 - PAG� 3 3. Innsbruck Townhouse Association - Letter Mr. Roudreau stated he had finally gotten a response from Mr. Tom Wiley of the Innsbruck Townhouse Association dated �anuarp i6, i978, giving permissi.on to clear Parr Lake for a skating area for use by the Innsbruck Townhouse residents. Permission was given almost right down the line as requested by them and that the City take precaution noC to disturb the blacktop. So, as far as t1r. Boudreau knew, they had been cleaning off the lake for use by the residents of that atea. They had also flooded the area as requested by Ms. Suhrbier's neighUorhood, He stated this was a matter of information to the Commissioners so they would know this had been eaken care of and that, hopefully, they would have the same permission next' year. 4. Donation - Harris Lake Homemaker's Club (Jennifer Prasek) Mx. Boudreau stated the Harris �,ake Homemaker's Club had attended the City Council meeting the previous Monday and were kind enough to malce. a $200 donation L-o the development of the Harris Lake property. Ms, prasek has stated this hopefuliy would be an ongoing type of donation, that the u�oney raised from bake sales, etc., would be used toward the development of that park. Mr. Eoudr.eau stated he had been at the City Council c�eeting and had tilanked the Harris Lake Hememaicer's C1ub. Tie �tated he thought the Co�nission should be informel that �his. group was taking pride iii their neighbor- hood. He stated tl�at a thank you lei:ter h2d been written to them by the City Mauager. Ms. Seeger stated she would like Co see this have some publicity. It might stimulate some interest in the other neighborhoods, and it might be a nice positive thing coming from the Parks & Recreation Commission on what was happening in Fridley. Mr. Boudreau stated that it might be better to invite the Sun to the meetixi�; with the Aarris 7,ake neighborhond group the next month. Possibly a picture could be taken then of the Homemaker's Club and this ir.formation could be repeated. MOTSON by Betty Mech, seconded by ,Tan Seeger, that Mr.. Boudreau `arite a letter to the Hazris Lake Homemaker's Club thanking them for their enthusiasm, as well as their donation. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. 5. Naturalist position Mr. Boudreau stated that they were still in the process of looking for someone to fill the Naturalist position and would continue Caking applica- tions and interviewing until they found the rigizt person to fill that position. They had had applir.ants from all over the country. Tl�ey were l.00king for that person who would do an outstanding job and Chey would not Ue satisfied with or rusl�ed for anything e1se. �� PARKS & ftECREATSON CO�SSION MEETING JANUARY 30, 1978 - PAGE 4 NEW BUSINESS- 1. E.Y.S.A. - Soccer Plans 1978 - glenn Van Hulzen Mr. Van Huleen stated that the F.Y.S.A. had appointed a director, ,7uan Selas, and three administrative assistants, Bernie Hartman, Tom Nielsen, and Eddie Dupay, for the soccer program for 1978. They would be involved in organizing and adminisL-rating the soccer program. Mr. Van Hulzen handed out some sheets on "FYSA Soccer" and "Soccer Rules and Regulations". He ' stated this would show what they hoped to be doing with the soccer program for 1978, what the City could expect from them, and what they could hoge- fully expect from the Parks & RecreaCion Co�ission. He reviewed the first sheet, "pYSA Soccer" item by item with the Commission. Nu. Van Hulzen stated that a11 youth of Fridley, both boys and girls were encouraged to participate. The registration fee was $5.00, which defrayed the cost of awards, shorts, ba11s, and team shirts. Each partici- pant would keep their shirt at the end of Che year. They hoped to register gaturday, �pri1 1, Wednesday, April 5, and Saturday, qpril $. They would try to coincide this registration with that for Babe Ruth gaseball, Little League Baseball, and �irls Softball. By doing this, they hoped to eliviinate any problems tiiat might occur of one spor;: being preferred cver the other sport. They would explain to tUe parents [hat thay hoped to a11ow th2 youCh to partiaipate in both sports if they so desired. They r.eally wanted to try to promote this soccer program and really try to get if off the ground this year. Nir. Van Hulzen stated they did not have any definite season dates yet, but would begin the first part of May and conclude near the middle of June. He stated that the; proposed a House League, but it was very difficult for them because they did not know how many participants they were going to have. gor them to operate a very efficient House League, they needed numbers, meaning a number of teams in each division. If they did not get enough teams, they would have instruc[ional for the partieipants plus scrimages zmongst themselves and maybe some scrimages with some outside teams, gut, this would a12 depend on the number who registered. Mr. Van I;ulzen stated the other league was the Traveling Team situation. The Traveling Team had been run the previous year by ,7uan Salas, who had five traveling teams, one in each division. They were proposing that their teams also participate in this league after the instructional period or house league period so that they could get some competition. He felt they would learn a lot about the game by getting involved in league games. Mr. Van Hulzen stated that the Minnesota Junior Soccer qssociation did perform a11 scheduling and provided referees for all the games at a cast of approximately $1.00 per participant plus $50.00 (avg.) per team. PARKS & RECRI:ATION COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 30, 1978 - PAGE 5 �� Mx. Van Hulzen stated the g,y.S.A. was asking the Parks & Recreation pepartment to provide the following: 1. Payment of participant and team fees to the M.J.S.A. 2. properly maintained and marked playing fields for all practices and games (4 fields required) 3. Provide referees for all house league games 4. Provide a total of 4 sets of goals hIr. Van Hulzen also stated that the rules and regulations were a modified set of the M.J•S.A. rules. He asked the �ommissioners to take special note of Rule ��21 on the last page; "The object of a11 games played within the FYSA is enjoyment while Learning soccer skills. �11 players must play at least half the game, unless the player has been absent from practice, If a player does not play at least half the game, the coach is expected to contact the player's parents to explain the situation, A. Violators of the participation rule wi11 r.eport to the FYSA Board of Directors for discipline." Mr. Van Hulzen stated they were very adamant a6out this. ParticipaCion aas �{1 in the Fi'St� standards. Ms. Seeger stated she felt the referees should be handled in the same manner as they were for football and hockey--the City would pay the reterees, but the FYSA would caatral t!-ie referee� and set up the rules. Mr. go+.i3reau stated !:e woutd recommend for Item l that the Coumissi.on. allocatz up te $7b0 this year for the entry fees into the p3.J.S.A. traveling team system with the stipulation that no one was eliminated from the progra�*� at any point in time, and that pre-season scrimages not be used as a trial period to see who would make L-he traveling teams. For Item 2, he could come up with three fields, but would try to come up with a fourth field. For Item 3, he would recommend that the City again pay tF.e officials, but that the FYSA would get the officials and assign them. Thay �aay, it was $4-6 a game depending on age group. For item 4, he sai3 at this time, there were just Y.hree fields, and they would not need the fourth set o£ goals ur.til another field was found. Mr, goudreau ,tated he c,ould also recoumiend that the Commission would have to decide on $1 or $2 per participant as a fee rei_mbursement to the CiYy so tliey were consistent with the rest of the programs and to try to offset the cost of the officials. r10TI0N by Jan Seeger, seconded by leonard Moore, to agree w=th Mr. Boudreau's reconmmendations that up to $700 be allocated to the FYSA Lor the operar.ion of the soccer progxaui with the stipulation that no one was eliminaCed irom the program at any point in time; that a$1 fee per participant be reim- bursed to the City for registration costs; that the CiCy would maintain thzee fields and would try to come up with a fourth field und sets of goals; and that the City would pay the oificials, but thaC the FYSA would obtain and assign the officials. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. � ,... -�� & RECRF.ATION CONAiISSION MEETING, JANUARX 30, 1978 - PpGE 6 2. Columbia Heights Communicating �onf.erence Ms. Suhrbier wanted to bring to the Commission's attention information regarding a seminar called "Covununicating; you, Me & Us," a stimulating seminar for teens and adults to explore innovative ideas of human relationships presented by a task force of experienced speakers. The seminar was to be held March 2, 1978, at the Central ,Tr. High gchool, Columbia Heights, and there was no admission fee. OLD BUSINESS: 1. Neighborhood Revie�a of Park Plaas - Ray Leek Mr,goudreau introduced Ms, gathy Divine and Mr, Dan �12an to the Commission. They were invited to the meeting to hear the review of t-he next step of what tlze City was doing with the genjamin/Briardale area, to bring them up to date, and to give them some examples of how the City had used their help and the other fine people cn the committee. Mr. Teek stated he and Mr. gransea were at the meeting to show the Co�nnission iohat they were doing and how they [aould like to handle the demonstration oi the Park design. He harcded out a sample of the kinds of questions and introducCion they would like to hand out in the neighoorhood to get results. The.rc was also a brief deccription of what they ��ere trying to do in Fridley in the redefining and redesiening of parY.s, Pinallv; there was a kir.d of tentative scheduled process of tne caay they wanted to handte their initial demonstration. Mr. Leek went over this sheet with the Co�vnissioners. Mr. Leek stated that first, was the development of the questionnaire. In discussions with Mr. goudreau and Mr. $oardman, they felt it would be beneficial to call a meeting for neighborhood residents indicating what i.t was the City intended to do in their area and also publicize it in the paper and CaUle TV so people in the area would know that city employees were going to be coming out to taI[c to them, qfter that would come the distribution and collection of the survey, which was anticipated to take one-two weeks. Finally, they would like to ca11 another meeting of the neighborhood residents to discuss the results of the survey to get further feedback about the way in which the park should be designed and how it should be developed for maximum effectiveness. They would anticipate making adjustments on the design for that park and, hopefully, would do the construction o£ that park this year. Mr, goudreau stated that after the informahion was gathered fran the residents, Mr. Fransen would come up with a prototype of the Benjamin/ griardale area using the information the residents had said they wanted. 4Then they went back to another meeting with the residents, they could tell the residents that was what they had come up with, what did they like or dislike ahout it, and how would it fit in their neighborhood? Even at that point, there was the flexibility to change the design of the parlc, j,�hat they were looking ior was toL'a1 input from the potential users of the parks to the planning stage and then to the development stage. PARKS & RECR�ATICIY CUh;NTSSION MEETIivG J.ANiJARY 30, 1978 - PAGE 7 �� Ms. Divine stated the development of the questionnaire would be very important to her. When she had worked on the neighborhood project couimittee, they had prepared a questionnaire and she had personally pul these into the hones. The response was very poor and sh.e had beeh disappointed, Mr. Leek stated that they were planning on knocking on doors, and that was why the City was contemplating hiring someone to perform those tasks fu11-time. They were hoping that by sending the interviewer out with a 15-30 minute interview, they could get 100% response. Ms. Seegez stated that the questionnaire would have to try to soften the barrier that peuple seemed to put up when cr.ey camz to the door. Mr. Leek state.d LYat since the city was staffing this survey, they wuuld have to make sure to indicate in their opening remarks that this was a survey for the purpose of gathering informaCion oi what the neighborhoods wanted in their parks and that nothing *.aould be done over and above what was already in the budget for their parks. Mr. Moore stated he hoped they would initiate a response from the older people, as they did not always think the parks were for them. Mr. Leek stated that he hoped that in sending people into the neighborhoods, they c;culd prepare them to beoin di�cu;;sions with the inl-erviewees to get them thi.nk:n� about what p2rks were and that parks were more than just: teeter totters and swings. Mr• Al1an stated that he felt something Ce think abo::t was that the Benjamin/Sriardale area had changed in the Last year. There were a lo*_ of new peopie moving in then, but now it had become more sett2ed. li�_ feit the City was on the right track, but urged them to be very specific when giving the survey. People, basically, were not park oriented and neede3 to have all the litt-le necessi.ties pointed out to them. Ms. Mech state3 she felt the whole questionnaire looked very trivia?, and thought it should be taken more seriously. She £elt ��12,"i7g'0 Landing Strip," on the Introduction of Questiounai.re was just taking up space and she would zather see something more specif.ic such as "beautiful land- scaping." Mr. Leek stated that the intent of that sheet was just to help get people's minds oif the beaten track and was not even a part of the questionnaire itself. Ms. Seeger stated she felt Ms. Mech's point was valid, though, gy being too far out, people might tend to not take the questionnaire seriously. Ms. Seeger suggested that the interviewers try to stimulate interest in a stage or ampitheater--things,people would not usually think of themselves. � V .% . PARKS &•RECREATION COMhRSSION MEETING J�NUARY 3C, 1978 - PAGF. 8 Ms. Seeger also suggested that things should be talked about such as aecess to the parks, traffic through neighbors' yards, and the £encing between yards and �he park. These things were real and geople should be aware of them. Mr. Boudreau asked Ms. Divine and Mr. Allan if they would be willing to assist the City by getting the word out to their neighbors of the City's intentions. Ms. Divine and Mr. Allan agreed to do so. The Commission members and Mr. Boudreau thanked Ms. bivine and Mr. Allan for attending the meeting. 2. Report on groomball Organization -,7udy Hengstler Mr. Boudreau stated that at the last meeting, there was a question raised by a concerned citizen about the girls' broomball costs. This person's daugnter had registered, but when she found out the equipment was going to cost around $60, she took her daughter out of the program. The Commission had recommended that Mr. Boudreau contact the broomball people to give a report on the additional costs for equipment. He stated Ms. Hengstler. was a volunteer coordinating the bxoomball program and had consented to give a report on the broc�ioall program. Ms. Aengstler stated she o�as really sc�rry there had been a lack of communi- cation and she was not sure where it k�as. She had tried to be as helpful as possible with information £or this persou. She stated,as the Cou�nission knaw, tl�e registration cests were the basic costs ss the,y were £or .£ootball or anything else. The $6 the Hockey Association kept entitled the girls to a jersey, a mouth guard, booklet information, and some indoor ice time. It was required that all the gi.rls provide their own helmets and brooms. She stated she did some research concerning helmets and brooms. She stated that in this particular situation, Che HAF had some hel�ets that were acceptable that they would have sold for $1. So, this parent could have had a helmet for $1, but it was refused, ghe stated that helmets did range widely in price--some $4 and some $2.50. She stated K-Mart sold a cery good helmet and :nask for $12, but some ran as high as $30. Brooms averaged in cost from $4.50 to $3.50, but the $4.50 �aas better, plus $1 worth of tape for taping tfie broom. Those were the requirements for broomball by the HAF. However, they had been strongly recommending L'hat the girls have elbow pads and shin pads. If anyone had watched broomball, they would see where these were extremely important, Shin pads ran about $6 for a small girl and elbow pads were about $4.25, but those were optional. To lxer knowledge, no one had ever been told that those were required. She stated L'hat broomball shoes �aere quite expensive--around $22, and they were not usable for any other sport. They had already made recommendations for a broomball shoe exchange next year. But, she stated, to her knowledge, no coach had ever told a girl she needed broomball shoes. Many o£ the girls wore snocumobile boots. She was not sure where the $60 , '- PARXS & P,ECR�ATION COMMISSION N1�F.TING JANUARY 30, 1978 - PAGE 9 worth of equipment came from. These total costs would not amount to that unless they went with first class-equipment all the way. Ms. Hengstler stated she was very definite about safety for the girls and the elbow pads, shin pads, and broomball shoes were definitely safer. The Co�issioners agreed that maybe parents should be made more aware of the need for safety in this game and that safety should be stressed in the next year's broomball program. They thanked A1s. Aengstler for her information. Ms. Hengstler took this opportunity to thank Mr. Soudreau for the excellent ice on the rinks. ADJ OURP7MENT : MOTION by Leonard Moore, seconded by ,7an Seeger, at 10;15 p.m. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, unanimously. - Itespectfully subm'tted, /-� '� C'7� L i'n ��'.� �C� �t%�-� Lvi�e Saba Rec.ording Secretary to adjourn the meeting the motion carried c� ..,� r� �� HUMAN RESOURCES COtR4ISSI0N MEETING FEBRUARY 2, 1978 MEMBERS PRESENT: Ned Storla, Harold Belgum, David �hiele, Mary ,To Dobson MEhffiERS ABSENT: Barbara Shea OTHERS PRESENT: Betty Christlieb, Housing Specialist pete Fleming, Administrative Assistanl- Jezrold goardman, City Planner Larry Dobson, Tenant/Landlord project Committee Chairperson CALL TO ORDER: Vice-�hairperson gtorla called the meeting to order at 7;43 p.m. APPROVAL OF .TANUARY 5, 1978, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: Mr. FLeming sugge�ted that the first sentence on page 4 be �eleted as it was rep�titious. The Commission agreed to delete that sentence, MOTION by Harold gelgum, seconded by Mary ,7o Dobson, to approve the ,7anuery 5, 1978, H�1n Resources �ommission minutes a� amended. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. APPRCVAL OF AGENDA: The following ttoo items were added to the agenda; Communications - Item 1 under "Other Business" Congregate Dining - item 2 under "Other Business" MdLI�N by David Thiele, seconded by Harold Belgum, to approve the agenda with the above two additions, Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimous2y. RECrTVE "SOCIAL GOALS FOR THE TWIN CITS METROPOLITAN COMMITNITY": MOTION by Dayid Thiele, seconded by Mary Jo Dobson, to receive the "Social GoaLs for the Twin City Metropolitan Community ". Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. , t. , �� F HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSIOY MEETING, FEBRUAItY 2 1978 - p�j�E 2 Mr. gelgum stated that the workshop on the "Social Goals for tlie Twin City Metropolftan Council" seemed to be sponsored by the Human $esources Commission of the Metropolitan Council and for once the Metropolitan Council was doing something that coincided with something this Commission was doing. He thought that, if at a11 possible, there should be some representation from this Commission aL- the workshop on pebruary 6, 1978. He stated he would be attending as a representative of C�unity Schools as he was on the Community Education Advisory Commission. Ms. Christlieb stated that when she had received the notice of this work- shop, she had contacted Ms. Shea, Chairperson of the Human Resources Commission, and Ms. Shea had suggested that Mary Jo Dobson may like to attend. Ms. Dobson had indicated she would like to attend, and Ms. Christlieb stated she would also be attending for part of the day. She stated that if anyone else on the Commission wished to attend, tfiey could register at the door and the City would reimburse the monies, q'he workshop would cover the entire document with presentations on each secCion. Mr. gelgum stated he had called to ask if there would be any suitable group at this workshop focusing on "communications", and he was told Cliere was not any, that communications was something that had not received a lot of attention. Mr. Belgun had stated that "cou¢nunications" was the only reason h2 was coming and had stated he would like sone kind of discussion group on that topic. The person he had talked to had indicated he would try to arrarige some focus on "communications" 2nd have some kin3 of suitable discussion group on it. REPORT FROM TENANT/L�ANDLORD F$OJECT COMNffTTEE - LARRY DOBSON: Mr. Dobson stated that the Tenant/Landlord Project Committee had met on ,7anuary 9, 197R, at 7;00 p.m. in the Fridley City Ha11 Classroom. Those in attendance were Jack Raymond (landlord), Dewey Wellender (landlord), Jim Connors (GAP), Sohn Anderson (tenant), and himself. He stated that Ms. Shea had stopped in to talk to the committee about what was expected of the committee by the Human Resources Commission. Ms. Shea had state� they expected primarily an education function. Mr. Dobson stated they had two guests at the meeting; Dodie Todd and Margaret Zack. The two speakers were Jack Horner from the Multi-Housing Association and John graugh, Anoka County Judicare, and attorney. Mr. Horner had discussed the services available to tenants and landlords through the Multi-Housing Association. Primarily they had three programs: (1) Education Program --they have a certified apartment manager's course to provide ongoing education to the apartment managers; (2) Lobbying function at state and local level -- where they can lobby for legislation affecting rental property; (3) Mediation Service -- available to tenants and landlords. They have a phone answering service 12 hrs, a day answered by various department managers and owners on a voluntary basis. They �� HUt4AN RESOURCES CONIhII5SI0N MEETING FEBRUARY 2, 1978 - PpGE 3 also had a Letter Mediation Program where they would send a letter to a member or non-member asking for a response, This generally was quite effective in solving problems. Mr. Horner also discussed the Tenants' Remedies Act, which provided some recourse in district court for tenants having problems with Landlords getting services done at a certain time, Mr. Dobson stated that Mr. Braugh discussed the National Legal Services Corporation and Anoka County's participation in providing those services. The services were available to eligihle people in p,noka County in non- criminal affairs. Soth attorneys Uelieved that the Tenant/Landlord project Committee could provide the most valuable function in a monitoring capacity-- needs, facts, and prohlems in the tenant area. They discussed some of the possible functions. One was mediati.on -- the committee could serve very effectively in this function; however, it was sometimes difficult to set up in working it into the scheme of the legal system as it existed right now. qnother functior. could be dealing with disputes, The third function they felt they could serve was the education function, which was apparently discussed at the Co�ission. Recommending housino solutions within the cmmnunity was another function brought up. Mr. Dohson stated they discussed two pending legislation bills which might aff.ect the c�mitY.ee. They were the "Evietion for Cause" legislation and-�-. "Repair and Deduct" legislation. Mr. Dobson stated the TenantJLandlord Project Committee had decided to meet in March at Meadowrun l�partments as a first step out i nto Yhe comu:unity. They would be meeting in the party room there, it was suggested by Jim Conners that notices of Cheir meetings be sent to the Chamber of C�merce and put in church bulletins. Mr. Dobson stated that plans for the gebruary meeting agenda were discussed as follows� 1. Make a list of items and subjeces for pamphlet for Fridley .. tenanCs. � � 2. Mediation rules, a discussion of guidelines set up for a mediation panel. 3. SeC up plans for meetings out in the community. 4. State senators and representatives panel discussion on pending legislation. Mr. Dobson stated that January had been a busy month for him. The holidays seemed to signal the beginning of many complaints which kept him 6usy, ge stated he felt the j�l biggest relations problem was communication. Other pxoblems he came in conCacC with were; heating problems, street and side- walk maintenance, deposit and cleaning problems, eviction notices for children, security and supplemental services, multiple lease forms (he felt the city should look into this). He stated that most of the people �. 9� HUMAN RF.SOURCES COPQ7ISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 2, 1978 - PAGE 4 who called him were families with three children, ge finaily had called the qpartment Guide and they told him the �1 difficult thing was to find housing for families with two or more children, especially if both parents were in the household. Three-bedroom units were just not available and also the pr.ice.range made it difficult when three-bedroom units were available. There were a lot of one-bedroom units in surplus because single people were getting together and renting two-bedroom units to save costs. Another thing that was happening was that more singles were buying homes. The two-hedroom units that were available were not availabie to families, some were in adult-only buildings, some just rented to several singles. Landlords could get a higher rent by renting to several singles. Mr. Dobson stated that the person at qpartment Guide agreed to keep a record of the inquiries they received over the next month for this area and would come to a Tenant/Landlord project Com�ittee meeeing in late spring to give the committee an idea of what kind of people were looking for housing. Mr. Dobson stated that as far as the Committee was concerned, the}> were looking into different types of problems. The main funcEion at this time �aas to p�it together. a pa;nphlet cf r_esper_tive r.ights of tenants and land- lo�ds, to kr.o�a where to go to get things dore, pnother thing of. interest r�as that other corununities coere looking at the T°nant/Lzndlord Project Committee and were really interesred in it. Anoka County ti�as appl.ying £or three CFTA positi.ons, one of which would be for someone to go arouad and help seL u� ot1L r committees such as theirs. REVIEW OF GOAL� OF TENP.NT/LANDLORD PROJECT COMMITTEE - SERROLD BOl�RDMAN: Mr. goardman stated he was concerned witr� the direction the Tenant/Landlord Project Committee was taking as far as taking an action role in contacting Zandlords, pne of the purposes that was set up for the project committee was acting strictly as an advisory co�nittee to the Human Resources Commission for the purpose of developiag an action to be taken. zt seemed like the direction was more of an action committee. At this point in time, the project committee had no real authority for the contact of any landlord, primarily Uecause a project landlord action committee had not been established. There were two things the committee should be looking at. First of all, they should come back to the Commission with a reco�nenda- tion and if a recommendation was to establish a committee that could handle complaints in this manner, then that would be fine. The problem that City Hall had was they got calls about what authority the project co�nittee had. pnother thing was that right away it reflected on the commission process, and may hurt that process at some point in time when an action committee did come into being. Ae realized at this time, there was not a 1ot the �ity could do for tenants. The Housing Maintenance Code was before City �ouncil and looked like it would be adopted at their nexC meeting. Once �� HUM141'i RESOURCES COPR�ItSSION MEETING FEERUARY 2, 1978 - PAGE 5 the Maintenance Code was adopted, then the �ity would have some enforcement procedure. They would have a systematic process where Chey would go through every uniC in the city every two years, and there would be a complaint process, The problem he was sure the committee was aware of was that no one was going to do anything and they were wasting their time. He just wanted to caution the project ccmmittee to not to move too fast in that area. He felt the committee was doing an excellent job, and he had no. problem with the investigation because that gave the cortm�ittee information. But, righC now it was a matter of pulling together the necessary information and coming to the commission with a recou�endation and maybe that recommenda- tion could be the making of an advisory committee. Mr. Dobson stated that he would like the City to look into the possibility of obtaining a CETA person to handle the calls he was han3ling, looking 3nto the documentation of these calls, and working on the covmiittee in trying to set up solutions. Mr. Boardman asked Mr. Dobson if he felt systematic enforcement of the Housing Maintenance CQde would take care of a lot of the complaints he was getting. Pfr. D�bson stated it would help some of them, but there were a 1ot it would not. Mr. Buardman stated the situations the Cir_y would be involved in were maintenance-type situations, heating, etc, As far as Mr. Dobson's question about complaints, the City would be handling all complaints first. The systematic enforcement would be on the basis where they would handle so many units per month over a two-year period. There were going to be shifting responsibilities in Staff, and Mr. Steve Olson, Environmenea7. Officer, would be devoting a portion of his time to this enforcement. Whether they would be hiring a CETA person or not had not been determined at this time, Mr. Belaum asked if Mr. Boardman thought the groject committee would be more effective if they were separated from the Commission and the City. Mr. �oardman stated tlzey wculd still have no authority if they were se�arated from the Commission. They would have to have some kind of budoet or fee similar to the Minneapolis Tenants' Union if they wanted to be'effective as far as providiag legal services to tenants. He did not know if they would be any more effective by being a project co�ittee of the city, but by being a project committee of the city, they were bringing a lot of information out. Whether City �ouncil would or would not approve public monies for a tenants' union-type of operation, he did not know. Maybe a recommendation to c«ne out of this Co�ission was that City Council join the Minneapolis Tenants' Union. 1f HU?SAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING EE$RUARY 2, 1978 - PAGE 6 Mr. Dobson stated that right now the ottly thing he wanted was to get more information on what could be done in getting a person on City Sta£f just to be involved with tenant problems. He thought there should be someone on staff that could be contacted at all timea, • Mr. goardman stated he did not know what the project committee was Iooking at for the purpose of this person and what kind of authority this person would have--just someone to handle calls or a person to have authority to solve some of these problems. Right now they did not have the legal authority to do that; and the Housing Maintenance Code would pretty much cover the enforcement when it was passed. Mr. Thiele stated that fr.om all of this, he could see there was a definite problem right now and action had to be taken to help the tenants. Mr. Dobson stated that a problem that the Human Resources Commission might want to think about was that spring would be here soon, and when school was out, vandalism skyrocketed. He stated he would lil:e to see the City's Parks & Recreation Department or the schools set up programs to organize sports in some of the apartment complexes to give these kids something to do. Mr. Boardman stated that in order to get something like tl�at motivatea in a cemplex, they wou].d first need someone in the coaiplex to organize the progrems. After the organization, the Parks & Recreation Department cauld possibly provide some services. He agreed it was something to be looked into. Mr. Storla stated he would be willing to check into what could be done. REPORT FROM BETTY CHRISTLIEB Oii TENANT/LANDLORD ORG�IVIZATIONS - OTHER SUBURBS: Ms. Christlieb stated that, as she was instructed at the lasb Commission mee[ing, she had called 15 suburbs in order to £ind out if any other suburbs had a Tenant/Landlord organization such as Fridley's. None of the communities had a teuant/landlord organization. She stated she thought a poi�t for Fridley`s Tenant/Landlord Project Coumittee was that other coonnunities were interested in it and would be looking at it for future use. OTHER BUSTNESS: 1. COMM[TNICRTIONS Mr. Belgum stated he wanted to talk again about a community newspaper. ps the Commission probably knew, the Fridley Sun was being bought by the Star & Tribune because of a lawsuit. He was interested in the possibility of a"public press." Mr. Belgum read to the Commission a communication on the subject of a public press addressed to the City Council and Mayor Nee, He was proposing that the Commission concur with it. Its purpose was to start peop].e thinking about a public press. / �Q1 HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSYON MEETING FEBRUARY Z, 1978 - PAGE 7 Mr. Thiele stated that the first thing that was obvibus was that a puhlic newspaper would be a great expense to the city. News was a public thing, but it was not a government thing. Ae thought people right now felt the government had its hands in enough things, and he could not see the citizens being interested in a community newspaper. Mr. Dobson stated he agreed with Mr. Belgum. Infonnation had to be gotten out to the citizens of what was going on. The Tenant/Landlord Project Conmiittee had been in existence since last spring, and it was not until November that anyone really knew of its existence, The City had the responsibility to 1et people know what services were available in the City. The City tried to do that right now with the quarterly newsletter, the city calendar, the Parks & Recreation brochure, and the school sent out a calendar. Mr. Belgum stated that if everything was added together that the city and District ��14 spent on paper, mailings, printing, etc., there would be a Ueautiful base to begin a newspaper, and all this information could be put' in that newspaper. Mr. gelgum left the meeting at 9:45 p.m. NLs. Christlieb stated that maybe they should let the people find out i£ they taanted a aekspaper. Mr. Storla stated that one of the purposes of this coumiission was "to promote i.ntensified couli�unicaCions." He stated that maySe what they should be looking at was to ask Mr, gelgum to explore the different possi- bilities of funding, alternati.ve funding such as that for KTCA. MOTION by David Thiele, seconded by Mary Jo Dobson, to continue thi� discussion until the next meeting. Upon a voice vote, all v oting aye, the motion carried unanimousiy. B. CONGREGATE DINING Mr. Storla wanted to know if the Commission was interested in congregate dining for senior citizens. Yt was a program where senior citizens met for one meal a day in a certain area. The idea Uehind it was that these people got one good meal a day and they were also talking and socializing with others. The Federal government funded the people to program it and volunteers did the iood preparation. The area serving would have to supply a place for the meals. He did not know if there was interest in Fridley right now and would talk to the Friendly Fridley Fo1k. If the Commission was interested, he would look into it and see if any of the neighboring communities were interested. 1�� HUMAN RESOURCES COMNIISSION MLETING, FEBRUARY 2 1978 - PAGE 8 MOTION by David Thiele, seconded by Mary ,7o Dobson, that Mr. Storla look into congregate dining to see if th�re was interest in the co�renunity or currounding couununities. Mr. Storla would then report back to the Commission. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. AATOintNMENT: P10TION by David Thiele, seconded by Mary Jo Dobson, to adjourn the meeting at 10;05 p.m. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. Respectfuily submitted, `i�GJ'YL/y2.�. �C.v'"_�,{.�- Ly�n e �Saba Recording Secretary ,�,,:.