PL 08/23/1978 - 6639PLANNING C�MMISSION MEETING
City of Fridley
A G E N D A
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 23, 1978
_ CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL GALL:
APPROYE PLANNING COf�1ISSI0N MINUTES;. AUGUST 9, 1978
1. CONTINUED: DISCUSSION ON ENERGY PROJECT COMMITTE
A. Potential members of Energy Project Cortenittee
2 DISCUSSION OF WORK LOAD SCHEDi1LE
3. RECEIYE SPECIAL ENYIRONh7ENTAL QUACITY COMMI5SI0N
4. RECEIYE HUMAN RESOURCES COh�]ISSION MINU7ES:
AUGUST 1, 1978
5.
6.. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: AUGUST 15, i978
A. Item 2, 1lariances for 534 Fairmont St. N.E. have to
go through Planning Comnission to the City Council
because of objection of neighbor. Recorrenended for
approval by Appeals Cormnission:
7. OTHER BUSINESS:
ADJOURNMENT:
7:30 P.M.
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CITY OF FRIALEY
PLANNINa COMMISSION MEETING - AOGUST 9+ 1978
CALL TO ORDER�
Chairperson Harris called the August 9, 1978, Plann3ng Commission
meeting to order at 7;42 P.M.
ROLL CAI,L:
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Storla, Oquist, Aarris, Peterson
Schnabel� I,angenfeld
None
Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MZNUTES: JULY 26, 1978
MOTION by Me. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Oquist� to approne the
July 26� 1978, Planning Commission meeting minutes, IIpon a
voice vote, all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously.
MORATORIIIM ON LOT DEVELOPMENT IN INNSBRUCK NORTH ADDITIOPT
Ms. Schnabel said that the moratorium had been considered by
City Council and'�hey ordered Staff to take action regarding
Building Permits and dumping of fill. Ms. Schnabel poixited out
that the afternoon of August 9, �978, there was dumping occurring�
grading occurring� and water was being pumped oui of one of the
lots in question. She said that there had been catepillars in
one of the areas most of the week. She said that of two days
previous there were steel drums and sand oastin s still on the
lots. She pointed ont that there has been sand�dirt hauled into
the area and she had reason to believe that the dumped articles
were merely being covered up and not removed.
Mr. Boardman said that he was not aware of this activity and was
sure that the conditions of the moratorium as laid out by the City
Council was being enforced. He said he would check this out tomorrow
Mr. Langenfeld said that he had been at the August 7, 1478,
City Council meeting and the two week Moratorium had been ordered
by the Council. He said that he was gettittg tired of trying to
ta7.k to City Council. iie said that the EnvironmentaZ Quality
Commission had clearly explained what was going on in that area.
He was upset thai basically nothin was being done to try to stop
the work going on in the Inns�North addition on the lots
in question. He said that act'ion had to be taken immediately!
Chairperson Harris said that he would take proper authorities into
the area on the morning of August 10� 1978� and action would be
taken!
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - AIIGUST 9. 1978 Pa�e 2
Ms. Schnabel asked if anyone had checked to see if the developer
had a Land Al.teration Permit.
Mr. Boardman said that he assumed that the activity that was taking
place was in conjunction with a building permit, rather than a land
alteration permit.
Ms. Schnabel said that she was not comfortable that anyone was
doing anything regarding the problem.
Chairperson Harris said that action would be taken on August tOth!
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� TO ALLOW A SIGN PAINTTNG BUSINESS TO
20�21�22� BLOCR 13� HAMILTdN'S ADDITION
THE SAME BEING 5333 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E,
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld� seconded by Mr. Peterson� to open the
Public Hearing. Upon a noice vote, all voting aqe� the motion
carried unanimously. The Public Hearing was opened at 8:Oy. P.M.
Mr. Boardman said that the application was for a Sign Company
to take over the ex:i.sting building located at 5333 IIniversity
Aveiue NE. He said that they would do site improvements on
the outside of the bui].ding as well as remodeling the entire
inside of the building. He showed the Commission the plans of
what the proposed building would look like.
Mr. Thomas I,eGro and Mr. Albert Ferriswere present at the meeting
representing this item.
Mr, I,eGro said that the business wotsld basically be truck lettering
Board Painting' and some spray painting. He said that one of the
present rooms of the building would be coneerted to a Spray Painting
booth that would meet all the code requirements of the City as well
as the Fire Marshall. He said that they wouldn.ft be painting the
big semi-trucks because the height of the doors would only be 12 feet
high and they would only paint trucks that could £it inside the
bui2ding. He said that a privacy fence would be constructed along
the rear of the property for the purpose of prinacq as well as to
provide an area to park the trucks and some storage.
Mr. Boardman said that the fencing would be the solid screening-
type fence.
PLANNING COMMISSTON MEETING - AUGUST 9. 1978 PaQe 3
Chairperson Harris asked if there would be any storage of signs on
the outside of the building.
Mr. LeGro said that there �ould be a very minimal storage of signs
outside the building.
Mr. Boardman said that no sign. could be stored in the rear area
that would be higher than the proposed fencing.
Chairperson Harris asked if the business would be a strictly sign
painting business or would there be some sign erection done in
the building.
Mr. LeGro said that he wouZd do some sign erection and Mr. Ferris
would do the spray painting. He said that the crane/erection
truck would be parked in the rear area of the property within the
fenced area. He said that ii was their understanding that they
wouldn�t be able to do any manufacturing in the building, so the
major part of the business would be a painting and installation
operation.
Ms. Schnabel wanted to know the timetable of the proposed Sign
Company.
Mr. LeGro said that if he received permission to proceed with the
Sign Company he would like to start improvments on October 1, 1978.
He said that the building interior would be remodeled immediately
as well as the removal o£ egisting gasoline pwups. He said they
would like to delay the exterior remodeling and curbs, etc. for
one or two years. He indicated that the fencing would be installed
right away also. He said that until the fence was ups they would
keep the trucks parked inside the building.
Chairperson Harris asked if there would be any sign assembly done.
Mr. LeGro said that they would not be manufacturing any signs.
FFe said that many times sign npgrading would be done on-site.
He said that they did'n�t get involved with lighied signs very
often because they were not electricians.
Mr. Schurstein of 1102-t�3-� Acenue NE wanted to know kaw much
paint would be stored outside. He said that he was concerned
because he owned the adjoining property and planned to construct
an office/apartment building and paints were very e�losive
materials.
Mr. LeGro said that they would only store what the Fire Marshall
would indicate was allowed. He said that all the materials would
be stored in the best places.
PLANNING COMMIS"ION MEETING - AIIGUST 9. 1978 P a�e 4
Mr. LeGro said that if finances permitted� they would like to a1Z
the improvements immediately. He said that theq vuould do as mUCh
as possib�e to aa;ze the buil@ing Zook nice. Fie said that as far
as the storage of paint! he would do whatener the Fire Marshall
indicated.
Mr. Boardman aeked how much paint would be kept on hand on the
premises.'
Mr. LeGro said that most of the storage �vould consist of partial
cans of paint. He said that they would purchase the paint for a
job� and whatever was not used would be stored.
Mr. I,angenfeZd asked if any welding would be done in the building,
Mr. LeGro said that they didn�t anticipate doing any welding or
soldering in the building. Iie said that most of it was done at
the site.
Mr. Schurstein said that he tvas concerned about the possibility
of explosive chemicals� trucks� and equipment being stored in a
building directly south of his proposed building, He wanted to
be sure that there would be no problems created betc�een the two
properties.
Mr. Schurstein said that he cli dn�t wish to dictate to anyone how
they were to make a Ziving� but he felt obligated not to allow
his property to get iuto a position that it would deteriorate the
value before it was ever built on.
Mr. I,eGro said that if Mr. Schurstein was concerned about the
future appearance of the property, it could be made part of the
Special Use Permit that it.would have to be maintained or else
the City could enforce their codes.
Mr. Boardman said that it was not done� mainly because to
renoke a Special Use Permit the City would have to close down the
business. The City didn�t usua7.ly flo that type of thing,
Mr. Peterson asked i� a Performance Bond could be posted.
Mr. Boardman explained that the cost of the per£ormance bond was
usually more cumbersome than expensive. He said that usually a
letter of credit from the Bank was requested to insure that all
the exterior remodeling/improvements were done as indicated.
Chairperson Harris 'said that arrangement could be made with the
lending institute to hold out a certain amount of money which
wouZd be set aside and woulc�n�t be closed until the e�terior
improvements would be completed.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - AIIGUST 9. 1978 Pa�e 5
Mr. LeGro said that there would be no financing on the property.
He said that there �ould be a Contract for Deed.
Chairperson Harris sa3.d ihat he would have to deposit money in
an escrow account or obtain a Exterior Development Bond.
Mx. LeGro agreed to do whatever the City requested.
Mr, Langenfeld asked what the hours of operation would be.
Mr. LeGro said that the honrs would be flexible. He said that
usually the operation would be opened later in the summer ihan
in the winter. He said that they would probably work later if
they had a job that had to be done right away. He commenied that
there really s�asn�t a lot of noise involved in painting. He said
tha� spray painting would probably only innolve about two hours
a week. He said that most of the lettering would be done by hand/
brush.
Mr.Ferris said that any painting that would be done in the spray
painting booth would be done with an airless sprayer. He said
that he had been pa3.nting for 28 years and he had never had or
seen a fire or explosion resulting from this type of operation
that they were proposing.
Mr. beGro said that most paint shops didnTt allow smoking in the
area.
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld� seconded by Mr. Storla� to close the
Public Hearing. IIpon a voice vote� all voting aye� the motion
carried unanimously. The Pub2ic Hearing was closed at 8:48 P,M,
Mr. Langenfeld said that he had very strong opinions towards the
proper handl.ing of poientially hazardous wastes and the general
aesthetics of the entire area. He said that if there would be
stipulations placed on the Special IIse Permit� he wanted a major
3mmediate item to be fencing erected along the peximeter of the
operation. He a1.so poinied out that it should be kept in the minds
of the members of the Commission that the Special IIse Permit wouZd
be granted to the property and not the owners.
Mr. Peterson wanted to know Staff�s opinion of the request.
Mr. Boardman said that they had no objections as long as the
petitioners met all the City requirements as well as the Fire
Inspector's requi.rements.
Chairperson Harris said that he had problems with the sign
ereciion feature of the business. He said that the paa.ntittg
of sigas was allo�ved in a C-2 Zone�(which �vas the zoning of the
property) with a Special Use Permit (which was being considered
that night). He felt that the storage of the erection trucks�
other vehicles� storage of materials� etc, on the premises
followed more closely under the M Zonin�s for contractor-type�
construction-type uses.
PLIINNING COMMI�
°SION MEETING - AIIGUST 9: 1978 PaRe 6
Mr. Boardman said ihat it was considered that the major operation
would be sign painting and that vehicle/storage wou7.d only be
secondary to the operation.
Chairperson Harris �vas concerned that a construction yard
situation could resu].t in a very short period o£ time.
He said that previous experience �vith a sign. company made
very.arvare of the possibilities that could result.
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him
Mr. Boardman pointed out that all the vehicles and stored materials
would have to Ue contained in the screened area.
MOTION by Mr. Peterson� seconded by Mr. Oquist� that the Planning
Commission recommend approval of the request for a Special Use
Permit9 SP #78-07� Thomas Sign Company� by Thomas LeGro; Per
Fridley City Code� Section 205.101�3�K� to allow a sign p ainting
business to be located on Lots 20� 21� 22� Block 13� Iiamilton�s
Addition to Mechanicsville� the same being 5333 University
Avenue NE with the stipulations that the petitioner obtains an
Exterior Development Bond or letter of credit to cover the exterior
landscaping; that all materials and vehicles be stored within an
enclosed� screened area; a suitable agreement be negotiated
regarding the rear a7.ley; and that al.l painting be done in an
improved area including the storage of all paints and other
chemicals meet codes both for safety and for the surrounding
neighbors.
UPON A VOICE VOTEs Mr. Storla� Mr. Oquist� Mr. Peterson�
Ms. Schnabel� and Mr. Langenfeld voting aye; Mr. Harris abstaining;
the motion carried.
Chairperson Harris abstained because he felt that his vote could be
a con�lict of interest,
2.
A; RECEIVE h1F�I4R�NDUM FROM VIRGIL HERRICK DATED
JIILY 31a 19?$
MOTION by Mr. Peterson� seconded by Mr. Oquist� to receive the
memorandum from Vigil C. Herrick to Jerrold Boardman� regarding
the Department of Human. Rights� Memorandiun of Agreement. Upon
a voice vote� all voting aye� the moiion carried unanimously.
Mr. Peterson wanted to know if the Human Resources Commission
Nanted the item returned to �hem be£ore it went to Gity Council,
Mr. Storla said that a7,I options had previ.ously been discussed.
He said that the Commission �ranted the item for�varded to the City
Council.
PLANNING CQMMISSIQN MEETING - AUGUST 9. 1978 Page 7
Mr. Boardman said that the Project Committee would have to be
available to the Public during certain periods of time in which the
appropriate documentation could be taken care oi. He said that
the Project Committee vrould have to be in a certain location� at
a certain time so that it would be available to the Public.
Mr. Storla didn't see the Project Committee as a group of people
that Prould have to be in a certain location at a certain time.
He said that the standard procedure was to have one or two people
act as input officers to get together with the applicant to help
fill out the complaint. He said that the Human Rights Department
would then schedu].e a hearing. He said that the duty o£ "intake
officer" would be rotated mith the members of the Project Coramittee.
Mr. Boardman said that the operating procedure wou7.d hane to be
clearly laid out.
Mr. Peterson vrant to kno�v i£ the the Auman Resources Commission
felt that the administrative authority should be the commission
or the Tenant/Landlord Project Committee.
Mr. 5torla sai.d that it was understood by the commission members
that the decision would be np to the Human Resources Commission.
Mr. Peterson said that something had to be written out explaining
exactly how the Memorandum of Agreement would be operated.
Chairperson Harris said that if ihe TenantJI,andlord Project
Committee r�ould assume the administrative authority of the
Memorandum of Agreemeni� ihat the egisting Committee would have
to be disbanded so that it �vould no longer be a project committee
but would be an operating committee.
Mr. 5torla didn�t feel that ihe Tenant/Landlord Project Commiitee
would have to disband. He said that there could still be items
that the Projeci Committee would want to investigate that were
still within the same Scope of the Project Committee.
Chairperson Harris said that he personally felt that the Human
Resources Commission should operate the P4emorandum of Agreement.
He pointed out that a11 the members had been appoittted by the
City Council and he felt that it would be within the realm of
their present Scope. He also felt that to do otherMise may set
a dangerous precedent regarding the forming of subcommittees.
gLANNING COMMISSION MEETTNG - AUGIIST 9. 1978 Pa�e 8
Mr, Boardman said that the Human Resources Commission acting as
the committee for the Memorandum of Agre�ment would have a
direc� responsibility to the City Council.
Mr. Storla said that whatever the Commission wanted to recommend
vrould be satisfactory vri.th the Human Resources Commission.
MOTION by Mr. Peterson� seconded by Mr. Storla� that the Planning
Commission recommend that the Human Resources Commission act as
the operating body for the Memorandum of Agreement and that they
draw up the procedure for operation and forvrard it on to the
Planning Commission before it went to City Council. DPON A VOICE
VOTE� all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously.
3. RECEIVE HU1�tAN RESQURCES COI•1MISSTON MINtTTES: JULY 6. 1978
MOTI�N by Mr. Storla� seconded by Mr. Oquist, that the Planning
Commission receive the Human Resources Commission minutes of �he
July 6� 7g78� meeting. Upon a voice vote� all voting ayet the
motion carried unanimously.
4.
MOTIOTd by Mr. Langenfeld� seconded by Ms. Schnabel� that the
Planning Cor.�mission receive the Environmental �uality Commissio�
minutes of the July 1$� 1978� meeting.
Mr. Langenfeld e�plained the item on Page 13 of the minutes
regarding the Proposed Ordinance for the Protection of Animals
from Inhumane Acts.
Chairperson Harxis suggested that Mr. Langenfeld look at the possibility
of amending the'existing Animal Ordinance. He said that the care
and clear_ing could be included in that Ordinance.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� all voting aye� the motion carried una�imously.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - AIIGIIST 9. 1978 Pa�e 9
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5.
MOTION by Mr. Peterson� seconded by Ms. Schnabel� that the
Planning Commission receive the July 24� 1978� meeting minutes
of �he Parks and Recreation Commission. Upon a voice vote�
all voting aye� the motion carried un.animously.
Reference was made by Mr. Peterson regarding Item C on Page 7
of the minutes "Woodcrest Baptist Church - Facility Use Request";
and Page 2 of the August 7� 1978a City Council meeting outline
"Consideration of Request for Use of Locke Park Soccer Field by
YYoodcrest Baptist Cliurch��.
Mr. Peterson said that the Parks & Recreation Commission had
motioned for denial. of -the request. He said that he stated at
that meeting that it aras his opinion that it weuld be government
sponsorship of church-related activities.
Mr. Peterson pointed out that the City Council "iabled+� the item
with the recommendation that Staff should work on an agreement...
Mr. Peterson said that approval of the request would be detrimental
to the City of Fridley�s recreational program.
Chairperson Harris said ihat i�G rras his feeling that the City of
Fridley shoul.d not encourage a private organization ta put out a
program on public lands to the detriment of the City�s recreational
programs.
Mr. Boardman asked if they had requested to ��lease�� the field.
Mr. Peterson said that they asked to use the field for the whole
fall soccer program.
Mr. Oquist said thai it should definitely be denied. He said that
the fields should be left for citizenry use.
Chairperson Harris questioned the legal rights of the City Conncil
to make an agreement with a prinate church organization to the
detriment of the rest of the community. He said that public funds
would be e�cpended to maintain the property £or their use -- he
said they coui.dn�t do it and they had better not try to approve it!
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld� seconded by Mr. Peterson� that the
Planning Commission stron 1 opposes the use of public property
for the use of priva e property and that they concur with the
motion made in the Parks and Recreation minutes to once again
recommend deniaZ of the request from 1Voodcrest Baptist Academy
for the use of Locke Park Soccer rield.
PLANNING COMMISSION Nf�FTING - AUGUST 9+ 1978 _ Pa�e 10
Mr. Oquist said that he agreed with ihe motion� but he was not
sure how much good it would do!
Ms, Schnabel wanted to know if anyone had talked to Mr. Boudreau
regarding the actnal meeting and what was discussed regarding the
3tem. She suggested that he be consulted.
Mr. Oquist said that he was opposed to any agreement. He said
that Locke Park Soccer Field rras public park property that shouldn't
be tied up by a private concern.
Ms. Schnabel said that she was not condoning the agreement. She
felt that the total facts should be kno�un.
Mr. Storla asked if there was any policy that cou].d be cited
regarding the l9oodcrest Baptist Academy utilizing the field e�en
if the request �ras denied� in order to convince them to get off
�Tie soccer field,
Mr. Peterson said that they would be a private group trespassing
on public property
Mr. Peterson said it had been a rtnanimous decision by the Parks
and Recreation Commission to deny the.xequest.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Peterson left t'he meetin� at 10;40 P;M, because of previous
commitment.
6. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTESi JULY 25� 1978
MOTION by Ms. Scrnabel� seconded by Mr, I,angenfeld� that the
Planning Commission raceive the Appeals Commission minutes o£
Jnly 25� 1978.
Ms. Schnabel mentioned the change of Format for Publie Hearing
Notices. She said it was done to simplify the language to make it
easier for the public to understand and to eliminate the necessity
of amending public notices as code sectirons change� etc.
Mr. �quist said that it was a good idea.
Ms. Schnabel also pointed out that the new form urould be on City
of Fridley stationary rather than plain paper which may attract
the eye of the receiver better.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� all voting aye� the motion carried unanimously.
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PLANNING COM�fISSION MEETING - AUGIIST 9� 1978 Pa�e 11
OTHER
Energy Proiect Committee
Mr. Boardman informed the Planning Commission members that there
had only been two applications received as of that date for
membership on the Project Committee.
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld� seconded by Ms. Schnabel� that the
Plannin� Cammission receive the "Energy Conservation�
A Mana�ement Report for State and Loca1 Governments+� booklet.
Mr. Oquist indicated that the booklet had been forwarded to the
Planning Commission members through the Fridley Community
Development Commission. He said that it was basically for
informational purposes.
DPON A VOICE VOTE� all w ting aye� �he motion carried unanimouslq.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld� seconded
August 9� 1978� Planning Gommissio
all voting aye� the-motion carried
was adjourned at 11:0l� P.M.
Respectfully snbmitted�
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MaryL e Carhill
Recording Secretary
by Mr. Oquist� to
n meeting. Upon a
unanimously. 2he
adjourn the
voice vote�
meeting
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July 10, 1978
Mr. Richard Harris
Frzdley City Hall
6431 University Ave. N.E.
Fridley, P4�T. 55432
Dear Mr. Harris:
Thank you for your ti.me discussi.ng the formation of a citizen's committee
to denelop a Eridley Energy Policy.
I am interested in serving on this coumi.ttee and the followin� will provide
some information about r0.yself and my qualifications per your request.
PERSONAL•
My name is Dennis Anderson, age 34, and I have resided at 470 EIy,
Fridley, since September 1975 with my wife, Katherine and my son, Todd.
Z am an active member of the Fridley Jaycees and have held the office
oP Secretary, Treasurer and currently, State Delegate. I am also a
member of the Illumi.nating Engineering Society and attend the meetings
and seminars that pertain to my product area. 2 graduated from High
School at Thief River Falls, Minnesota and attended the University of
North Dakota for three years.
BUSINESS EXPERIENCE:
I have been employed by Muska Lighting in St. Paul since 1975 as Sales
Manager and as Office Manager for GTE Sylvania, Lighting Products Division
for six years. My job involves the sale of all lamp (bulbs) types to
the Electrical Contractor and Industrial/Commercial end user for maintenance
usage. I am constantly involved in makin� energy saving recommendations
�• by retrofittirig or �hanging from one type of lamp to another wi�out changing
the fixture or installing a whole new system. 2 am not an engineer and could
not desiga or lay out a new installation but haved gained some general
knowledge in this area. I would also feel qualified to advise the residential
user and participated in the NSP/Minnegasco Energy Product Show for the
residential consumer a year ago.
e
REFERENCES:
- Mr. William Muska-(President- Muska Electic)
1q85 Oakcrest
Roseville, Minn, 55113
686-5820
Mr. James Davis-(Distict Sales Manager-GTE Sylvania)
5330 Industrial Blvd.
Eridley, Minn, 55421
566-44�0
Thank you for xour consideration.
Sincerely, �
-'G-/F/Y'VYsc.•�/� L�'�'�..2tJ�J
Dennis W. Anderson �
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6887 Chanael Road NE
Fridley, I-in. 55432
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July 25, 1978
Planrting Commisalon ChairAerson
City of Fridley
6431 University Avenue NE
Fridley, A4n. 55432
Please accent this letter and the enclosed Resume as my exnreasion
of interest to aerve or_ the Ensrgy Project Committee,
l�Iy full-time occupation since the oil embargo of 2973, when I was
retalned by the 2�'3nnesota Energy Agency to produce the first
draPL of the iltiinnesota Energy Code, has been in the fie?d of
Energy Conaervation. I have workec closel9 with �he F�ergy Aoency
and the Building Codea Diviaion since that time, particuZarly in
the axea of Energy Education, and beZieve tha� T may be able to
asaiat you in your planned City r,nergy Policy.
Should you find that ny quaZiPications will meet the needa for
your objectivea, I tivill be nost willix� to'serve. If any further
information or references are needed, please call me at 571-8555.
Yours Trul ,
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Homeovmer at thls addrese eince Auguat I.970
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Son; Timothy, born 2�.arch 1957
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Born July 10, 1931
Columbia, r;issauri
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Order of the Elks, 1968-70
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bmerican Society of Mechattical Engineers (aS%�),-
1956-60
Natlonal Societq of Professional Englneers (2iSPE),
1964-70
Consulting En�ineera Council (CEC), 1965-70
Americo.n Society of Fieatin�, Refrigeretiori,_ar.d
: Air Conditionin� Engineers (kSiiR�1E), 197G-�reaent
Afinnesota Cnapter activities;
Energy Commiitee CBairaan, 1974-75 ,
Treasurer, 1974-75 -
Secretary, 1975-76
Vice President & Regional Lelegate, 1976-77
Preeident, 1q77-7$
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1•lilliam F. Wh�rton� PE ��'+M. •g�;
Organizational State of N:innesota, Buildin,3 Code Division
[sctivities: Energy Sub-Co�iitee, 197k-present
(cont.j
Red �43ng Area Vocatlanal Technicai Inatitute
Energy :.dvisory Committee, 1977-present
Rochester Area Vocational Technical Institute
F.ttergy r�dvisory Committee, 1978-present
Educatioa and - �una 1949
Emnloyment: Pub11c schooZs, betive ia clasa plaqs and
student governaent. Sanicr Class President.
Graduate BloomiRgton High 9chool, biinnesota.
June I949 - dune 1951
UniYersity oP 2Ainnesota, Inatitute of Technology,
Aiechanical �ngineerir�g,
June 1951 - Jan. 1952
Northweat dirlinea nechanic. Attended n3ght
schcol Por A& E 2lcense (not completed).
Jan. 1952 - Dec, 1955
U.S. Air Force, instruater oF jet aircraft
mechanica, r;.marillo AFB, Texas.
Dec. 1955 - Sep. 1956
I3orthwest Airlinea nechanic,
Sep. 1956 - June 1�60
Univereity of iiinnesota, Znatitute of Technology,
Graduated with BSI� degree.
June 1960 - nug: 1961
Ellerbe and Company, St. Pau?�, iin., Engineer,
Design of fiVAC systems. '
Aug. 1961 - June I970
Schmit, Snith & Rusn, Inc., Conaultinr En¢inesra,
�. 2:lnot, N.D., as deaign Engineer. Eecame partner
�� and .Vice President in June 196� and onened branch
' ofiice in Bismarck, �.D. �
June 1970 - Au�. 1973
Gir�old-Pink Architecture, E.inneapolis, I•:n.,
�Tlce President and Director of En3ineerino,
Established and operated cn�ineering T•enartnent.
Aug, 1g73 - Apr. 1975
Yale, Inc., t•:inneapolis, Mn,, Pro�ect En�ineer
of HVl�C eystems, 4 days/wk.
Timeahare Syatems, Tnc., St, Pa.ul, P;n., Con'sult-
ant Sn development and promotion of com�uter
'pro�rams for buildir{� system de8lgn, 1 day/wk; ,
SPL�CIAL
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY CONALLSSION
MEETING
JULY 27, 1978
MEMBP,RS PRESENT: James Langenfeld, Bruce Peterson, Lee Ann Sporre,
Connie Metcalf, Dave Sabistina
OTHERS PRESENT: Ray Leek, PlanLiing Aide
MEETING HELD TO DISCUSS MnDOT PRELIMINARY DRAFT, APBIL 1978
Vice-Chairperson Peeerson called Che meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.
Anoka County Airport (Blaine) Expansion - P. 11-3:
Mr. Peterson stated that the discussion should start with the Anoka County
Airport as that was a major concern.
Ms. Metcalf stated Chat, as she understood it, the Anoka County Airport
was already in the top category. There were three airport classifications:
Key Systems, Intermediate System, and Landing_Strip System. The Anoka
County Airport was listed as a Key Systems Airport,
Ms. Sgoxre stated that Metropolitan Council had voted to vpgrade the
Anoka County Airport from a minor airport to an iiztermediaee airport
Ms. Metca2f stated that there was no "minor" classification listed on
the map, and that might be Metropolitan Council's terminology. But, what .
the Cownission was really concerned about and wanted to lmow was if they
were planning to enlarge the use of that airport.
Mr. Peterson asked if anyone had heard anything about a liaison for the
city to attend meetings regarding the airporCZ Had anything transpired
since the meeting at MoundsviewY
Ms. Sporre stated she knew no more about the status other than that
Metropolitan Council had upgraded the airport from minor to intermediate.
It seemed as though there was enough impetus to keep the helicopter
National Guard activity in St. Pau1. That was not finalized yet, to
the best of her knowledge. She believed Clyde Moravetz £rom the City
had been appointed to be the liaison.
Mr. Peterscro stated he wished the Cou�ission had a report from the
lia3son so they knew what was going on.
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SPECIAL ENVIRONMRNTAL QUALITY CONAf.CSSION MEF.TING JI1LY 27> 1978 - page 2
Dis. Sporre stated that this was part of the problem. If L'here was a
responsible person from Mnl)OT available Co the puUlic who would be able
to speak with authority on what MnbOT really was planning to do, then
the Commission could be more in the know. Mr. Leek had mentioned this
at the last meeting.
Mr, Peterson stated it made it very difficult to discuss this Plan and
make recommendations if they did not know what was going to transpire.
They did not have enough background. They could find out this information,
but he wished they had that information now.
Ms. Sporre stated it was difficult to discuss because it was in a list
under "Deferred Projects". Why was it deferredY It was very vague in
the report why these items were deferred. It would seem tb her if those
items were added to the airport, there was going to be a significant
increase in traffic, enough to require an eavironmental impact statement.
This was something that could be asked of MnDOT: Based upon the added
service this would provide, an environmental impact statement should be
required. .
Mr. Peterson stated that the amount of money budgeted, $600,000, did not
sound like a lot of money with which to do a 1ot of work--it was a"dxop
in the bucket".
Ms. Sporre stated that when they went through this report, they did not
get a crystal clear idea of MnDOT's intentions. The Commission should
ask MnDOT to state clearly their intentions in terms af air traffic.
Ms. Peterson stated that the impression he got in looking at a 1ot of
thia was that it was just another plan developed to satisfy a requirement
and nothing was definite. It was just done in generalities.
Ms. Sporre stat2d the environmental impact was hard to evaluate because
the air traffic plan was not clear.
Ms. Metcalf stated the Commission should ask Staff to check with Mn➢OT
to find out more about MnDOT's plans.
Ms, Sporre stated that one of the major problems at Janes Field was it
had fog a heavy percentage of the time which limited the use it now had
for air traffic at that airport. By adding the tower and instrumentation,
it could pull aircraft.in regardless of weather conditions.
Mr. Peterson stated the best thing the Commission could do was develop
a list of questions to be asked of MnDOT.
Ms. Sporre: What increase in air traffic would the proposed facilities
rovide?
Ms. Metcalf stated they should ask MnDOT what was now at that airport
and what they had in mind for these facilities, i.e., how many more
feet were they going to add, etc.Y
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SPECIAL ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY COMIffSSION MEETING, JULY 27, 1978 - page 3
Mr. Peterson:
the
was
Ms. Sporre stated that Anoka County Airport certainly was not now capable
of handling the kind of aircraft that Twin Cities International was
handling. But, it seemed to her, by adding the services, iC was going
to be able Co funcCion as Twin Cities International now functioned.
Mr. Leek stated that the public hearing date for Region 11 would be
November 9, 1978.
Ms, Metcalf: How was the $600 000 budQeted--a breakdown of that $600,0001
Mr. Peterson asked Mr. Leek if anything had transpired since Clyde Moravetz
was appointed liaison for the city?
Mr. Leek stated he had not yet talked to Mr. Moravetz. It.was Mr. Leek's
understanding that Mr. Moravetz had attended a couple of official meetings,
but that nothing had happened at these me8tings.
Ms. Metcalf asked 3f the Commission could xequest that when Mr. Moravetz
attended a meeting that he give a brief report to Mr. Leek on what had
happened at thaC meeting?
Mr. Leek staYed he eould ask Mr. Moravetz to write a short memo to him
whenever Mr. Moravetz attended a meeting.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that since this Commission had asked for the airport
liaison person in the first place, that liaison would be of little use
to the Commission if they never heard anything about the airport.
Mr. Peterson: Has an environmental impact statement been started on the
airport facilitV? Was there any intention? If not, why?
Mr. Leek staeed that he thought it was dictated by StaCe Statutes to
require an envlronmental impact statement. However, he did not feel it
was redundanC Co ca11 for att immediate beginning to an environmental
assessment of that action.
Mr. Langenfeld suggested the C�ission follow page 35 and make this
particular iCem att issue and make it be brought forth at the pubLic
hearing. That way citizens, as we11 as the Commission, could express
their views.
Mr. Leek stated that what was important at this point was to raise these
as issues to get clearly in Yheir minds what the questions were they wanted
to ask MnDOT, because the answers to these quesCions were not clearly stated
in the Plan, and to keep a close eye on developmenCs. At this point, he
did noC think it was valuable to begin talking about an international
sirport until those questions had been posed to MnDOT and MnDot had
answered in a way that indicated that was what Chey were talking about.
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SPECIAI. ENVIRONMI:NTAL QUALTTY COMMISSION MEETING JULY 27, 1978 - Page 4
I-694 Northtown River Crossings - P. 11-9:
Mr. Leek stated that an environmental impact statement had begun. It was
being conducted by BRW and was estimated to take two years to complete
at this time.
Ms.'Sporre stated she wanted to know where in the P1an it said they were
going to build the Northtown Corridor.
Mr. Sabistina stated the Plan did not talk about a Northtown Corridor;
it only talked about the Northtown River Crossings--Mississippi River to
Trunk Aighway 35W, additional lanes.
Mr. Leek stated the first thing that botlxered him abouC this was that
its designation did not clearly state it was the Northtown Corridor.
Mr. Langenfeld stated when he called MnDOT, they told him they were doing
a new study on the Northtown Crosstown. He got the name of someone from
Brooklyn Center, and Mr. Langenfeld stated he would call this person and
find out more information.
Mr. Leek stated there was another problem with this Plan. It referred to
planning studies and it said, "a number of problems and needs were
identified for which a specific so2ution has not been defined.^ A specific
solution had been defined,as they knew,from the NorthtownJCrosstoom report
and design framework; that was, a hridge. The Metropolitan Council's Major
River Crossings document just adopted by the Transportation Advisory Board
said that by 19$5 they would try to build the Northtown/Crosstown. So, it
did not say in the Plan precisely what was meant by "p2anning studies".
Was planning study inclusive of an envixonmental impact statement which
was a step in the implementation?
Ms, Sporre stated if MnDOT was willing to implement, then it ought to be
clear in reading the document that they intended to build a NorthCOwn
Corridor on the assumption that the environmental impact statement would
prove thexe would be no significant detrimental affect.
Mr. Leek stated it only implied that if you knew where to look--it did
not say it, and that was the problem.
Ms. Sporre staCed that now would be the time to agree or disagree with
Metropolitan Council's opinion and convey that opinion to MnDOT, She
asked Mr. Leek what would be the best way of handling this since the
Commission did not know whether MnDOT intended to build itY
Mr. Leek stated that one thing they might do was contact Mr. Bruce Nawrocki
of Columbia Heights, who was on the Transportation Advisory Board and
find out the actual disposition of the Major River Crossings report in
light of its being completed. He would be talking to Mr. Nerocki, also,
and would try to search this information out.
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SPECIAL ENVIROIVMGNTAL QUALITY COA'4IISSION MEETING, JULY 27, 1978 - P��e 5 '
Ms. Metcalf stated that, as a r.eport, she thoughC the MnDOT Plan was a
fantastic ac�d admirabLe thing. It represent4d a lot of work and its
inCent seemed to be to try and get people informed.
Ms, Sporre stated that on the last page of the Plan, Northtown was Iisted
as a 1o�a priority deferred project,
Mr. Leek stated that was where some conflict currently existed because of
the Major River Crossings document adopted by ISetro-Council (assumin$ it
was going to carry a lot of weight at the Seate), because that was indicated
as a relatively low priority item on the acCual lisC of projects, but was
rationalized to a high priority because of the "necessity° of carrying
diverted traffic from 694. Unless Chat had been changed in the final draft
docvment, that was not completely accurate.
Mr. Peterson noted that it was not talking about the Northtown Crossing
there, it was talking about Highway 164 from I94 to Northtown as the projact.
Why did they expressly refer to 169? �
Mx. Leek stated he would like to find out what MnDOT meant by referring to
Highway ].69.
Urban TransportaCion Plan:
Ms. Sporre stated it was her feeling tUat if you were pla.nning f-or an urban
area and dedicating land and air qualiYy and state and fedzral funds, it
could be better spent by freeing up dedicated fun3s and using it for more
suitable urban transportation. The transit system was going to become
more realizable in the future. She was not impressed with the Plan at a11.
It reflected very little chsnge of direction based on the assumption that
everything they had done was right and they were going to continue to do
it the same way.
Ms. Sporre stated that David Schaaf had introduced a bill last time Co
free the money from dedicated funding to be used for alte=native transit.
The Legislature did not take action on it, because she thought that the
Legislature didn't think the public would understand it.
Mr. Leek stated there was a concern here, because he felt this document gurported
to be usable for the next 20 years. He stated MnDOT had the responsibility .
Co indicate what the long range issues and questions were that would affect
specifics about various elemenYS of transportation systems in the state.
They did not do that.
Ms. Sporre stated that this document made no clear-cut statement thaC
MnDQT would adopt State StandaYds xegarding noise levels and air pollution
levels.
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SPECIAL ENVIRONMCNTAL QUALITY CO2II�LCSSTON MEETING JUI,Y 27 1978 - page 6
Mr. Leek stated he thought it would be good for MnDOT to adopt by reference
existing State Standards referring to noise levels and air pollution levels.
Secondly, it would Ue useful to have them detail what their working
relationships were with other working state agencies.
Ms. Sporre stated that MnDOT needed to adopt by reference State Standards
in noise and air quality (page 15, ieem 6).
Mr. Lan�enfeld stated he felt, from a practical standpoint, that the
implementing of Lhe State Standards, was not very feasible.
P1s, Sporre stated thaC MnDOT was suggesting an umbrella ageacy to coordinate
the environmental analysis and construction authorization functions of
most state agencies {page 21). She asked the Commission what their feelings
were about this umbrella agency.
Ms. Metcalf stated she thought that the Commission should first start by
giving their main criticism of this whole document: It was paying tribute
to problems of energy and environment that we were faced with, but it was
xeally not laying out any kind of plan whereby we could hava adequate
transportation anc� at the same time,preserve the environment and use a
minimum amovnt of energy. They were not prescribing a viable transportation
plan for the next ten years.
Mr. Langenfeld stated thaY in order to came to some sort of conclusion,
he would like to see the Co�nission take this in forms of issues, because
it would be consistent with the overall set-up when the heating did take
place. By having a series of issues, they could then compile an overall
position statement.
When talking about major facilities such as highway facilitfes, Mr. Leek
stated that it became imperative that participating coum�unities and
counties know what the nature of those facilities were, the extent of
those facilities, their:general alig�ent, so they knew where it was
going to be optimal for housing and commercial areas, and how they were
going to avoid the kinds of mistakes made in the past, like strict
co�ercial development along those kinds of txansportation networks.
Ms. Sporre stated that in the budget, there was no budget item that said
MnI30T would budget money for noise abatement planning.
Mr. Peterson asked how long, other than talking about 1984 and 1985, did
this plan deal with the future? There was nothing about the timefxame
of this Plan.
Mx.. Langenfeld referred to page 36, "Relationships between planning
and legislative funding are complex, fluent, and constantly changing.
Decisions made as paxt of a planning process will lead to Eunding
recommendations. Once acted upon, they become policies and programs
needing implementation. That implementation changes to transportation
and then a new system needs to be addressed.°
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SPECIl4L ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COP4�IlSSION h1EETING, JULY 27, 1978 - paQe 7
Ms. Sporre stated CiiaC MnDOT should state 'that they were going to spend
"x" amount of budgel-ed dollars to implement sCate standards for noise
q'uality. She thought better planning would reduce noise and they wouLd
be more environmentally suitable. They should be able to produce whae.
was called an audiUle landscape which would then provide the noise abate-
ment requirements that would be necessaxy. There ought to be a budget
item on page 11-E.
Mr. Leek stated that MnDOT never makes its position on transit explicit.
The implied position that he read was that they were not in favor of
developing more than bus service in any given locality and, if absolutely
necessary, some form of para-transit.
Ms. Sporre stated that the Coamiission should suggest to MnDOT that they
consider freeing money from dedicated highway funds for alternative
transit programs in Region 11 (page 17).
Ms. Metcalf stated she was surprised that there was no mention of motor-
cycles in the Plan. Motorcycles were an znexpensive way oE transportation
for single drivers, and that was obviously what was needed. That could be
a program that could be developed and emphasized.
The Conmiission concurred that motorcycles should be provided tha same
incentives as were provided for carpools, such as preierential Ianes.
Mr. Langenfeld stated he thought some of the things they should be con-
cerned about in the averall staCement were broad statemenCS abou[ energy,
emphasis on ehe environment, etc.
Ms. Metcalf stated that she felt suhways, air tramways, elevated and
monorail systems had been completely ignored ia this P1an.
Ms. Sporre stated she would be interested in seeing how much these type
of transit systems would cost.
Responsible Person: �
The Covm�issioners also concurred that there should be a lead person
available from MnDOT who could provide the most current information
and who would be responsible to speak on behalf of the agency to the
Commission, etc.
Mr. Leek stated that as soon'as the minutes were available, he would
send them to the Co�nission members. I£ anyone decided to put together
an official posiuion statement after,receiving the minutes or if they
had any inquiries about what was said or qvestions Co be cleared up
before they made that position statemettt, they could contact him,
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SPECIAL ENVIRONMENTAL �tUALITY COMMCSSION MECTING JUT.Y 27. 1978 - Page 8
The meeting was adjourned at 9:45.
Respectfully submi�ted,
.f
4 ,f C �r�
L • e Saha
Recording Secretary
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CpMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONIMCSSION
MEETING
AUGUST 8, 1978
MF.MBERS PRESENT: LeRoy Oquist, Herman Bergman, Kenneth Vos
MEMBERS ABSENT: Connie Modig, A1 Gabel
0'PHERS PRESENP: Jeff Christensen Planning Department
CALL TO ORDER•
Chairperson Oquist called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
APPRO[�AL OF JULY 11 1978 COMMUAI'11' DEVELOPMENT COI+AffSSION MIN[1TES:
Mr, Bergman stated that on page 2, paragraph 3, the last sentence should
read: "The Planning Commission is a recommendatory body and, therefore,
any function reporting to the Planning Cou�ission certainly is recommendato�.
MOTION by Herman Bergman, seconded by Renneth Vos, to approve the minutes
as amended. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
CONTINUED: DISCUSSION OF ENERGY PROJECT COt�4ffTTEE;
Mr, Oquist stated that Ms. Modig had attended the last Planning Commission
meeting when this subject was to be discussed and, hopefully, the role or
path the Energy Project Go�ittee should take would be determined. Ae
stated he had no information other than that.
Mr. Vos stated that, apparently, the number of people's names being sub-
mitted for the Energy Project Committee was not very great. Also, Ms. Modig
had explained to the Planning Co�ission whaC was meant by the statement
she had made on page 3, paragraph 7, last sentence, of the Ju1y 11, 1978,
Co�unity Development Coum�ission minutes relative Yo Mr. Dave Harxis being
chairperson of the Energy Project Coumiittee for a short time.
Mr. Christensen sCated that the Commission members had copies of the
"State Energy Code - Building Code Division" that had been adopted by
the City. As it stood right now, the City had a forri��used for design and
evaluation criteria for energy conservation that had to be filled out,
and the standards by which that was judged was A.S.ft.R.A.S. (American
Society of Aeating, Refrlgerating, and Air Conditioning Engineers, Inc.).
Re had checked wiCh neighborhing municipalities and they were going through
Chis, too. ,
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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENt COMMiSSION MEETING AUGUST 8 1978 - PAGE 2
Mr. Christensen pointed out Item C on page 3 which stated that, "in
addition to the criteria set forth in this section, the proposed design
shall consider energy conservation in determining the orientation of the
building on its site; the geometric shape of the building; the building
aspect xatio (ratio of 1 ength to width); the number of-stories for a
given floor area requirement; the thermal mass of the building; the exterior
surface color; shading or re£lections £rom adjacent structures, surround-
ittg surfaces or vegetation; opportunities for natural ventilation; and
wind direction and speed."
Mr. Christensen stated he had brought this to the Commission because
quesCions had been raised at the last meeting.
Mr. Christensen gave the Coumiissioners copies of a report entit2ed,
"Energy Conservation, a Management Report for State and Local Governments".
He stated it was-a little overview and background of what local governments
could do on energy conservation.
Mr. Vos referred to page 3, Sth paragraph, "Efforts of state attd 2oca1
governments to control private-sector use of enexgy should consider actions
to affect energy use in residential and co�ercial buildings, transportation
services, and industry. The fundamental government role in promoting energy
ener�y demand. Voluntary actions are designed to iatorm,or enlist coopera-
tion. Two examples are programs to make consumers aware oE the energy used
by various appliances or to promote home improvements that cut down on
ener�y consumption. Regulatory actions compel compliance based on gouern-
mental responsibility for public health, safety, and convenience. Examples
are buildir� code revisions, mandating minimum home insulation standards
or ordinances requiring builders to file energy impact statements for new
developments." Mr. Vos stated that this was what the Co�ission had talked
about at their last meeting. He stated that this report could give some
good goals and objectives for the Energy Project Committee. Referring to
the Iast sentence of that paragraph, Mr. Vos stated that it seemed like
most of the development questions were about drainage and sewage rather
than energy.
Mr. Vos stated he had been a little disappointed in the Planning Co�ission
when Ms, Modig had broaght up the fact that tax incentives might be the
way to go to encourage more conserving. The Planning Co�ission's reaction
was that was samething that could never be changedr He stated that by
looking at this report, it might help the Energy Pro3ect Co�ittee get
off dead center.
Mr. Oquist stated he thought the Planning Gommission was having trouble
getting the scope and purpose for the Energy Project Committee. This
Commission had discussed that at some length at their last meeting.
What was the Ettergy Project Committee's scope? To write up a policy or
make a recommendationY Mr. Oquist felt it was just to write a policy
for the city and the regulatory body would have to come out oE staff.
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COtRtUNITX DEVEI.OPMENT GONAIISSION MEETING AUGUST 8 1978 - pAGL 3
MOTION by Herman Bergman, seconded by Kenneth Vos, that the report entitled,
"Ener$y Consezvation, A Management Report for State and Local Governments"
prepared by National Science Foundation be received by the Community
Development Coum�ission and be submitted to the Planning Commission for
informational purposes. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion
carried unanimously.
Mr. Christensen stated that, to bring the Coo�ission up to date, there
had been a staff review of the Transportation Plan and Housing Plan update.
Revislons would be made within the next week. Also, they were still at
the point where they were looking at a format for the Comprehensive
Development P1an, to make it a working document rather than just verbage.
MOTION by Hexman Bergcnan, seconded by Renneth Vos, to adjourn the meeting.
Upon a voice vote>; all voting'aye, Chairman Oquisf declared the Gominunity
Development Commission meeting of August 8, 1978 adjourned at 8:00 P.M.
Respectfully sub tted,
l / �C�i
Ly e Saba
Recording Secretary
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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONIHIISSION
MEETING
AUGUST 8, 1978
MEMI3ERS PRESENt: LeRoy Oquist, Herman Bergman, Re:meYh Vos
MEt4BERS ABSENT: Connie Modig, A1 Gabel
OTf�RS PRESENT: Teff Christensen Planning Department
CALL TO ORDER•
Chairperson Oquist called the meeting to oxder at 7:30 p.m.
APPROVAI. OF JULY 11 1978 CO2�AifffiI1'Y DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
Mr. Bergman stated that on page 2, paragraph 3, the last sentence should
read: "The Planning Co¢�ission is a recommendatory body and, therefore,
any function reporting to the Planning Co�ission certainly is recommendatory."
MOlION by Hexman Bergman, seconded by Kenneth Vos, to approve the minutes
as amended. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unauimously.
CONTINUED: DISCUSSION OF ENERGY PROJECT CONALCTTEE:
Mr, pquist stated that Ms. Modig had attended the last Planning Co�nission
meeting when this subject was to be discussed and, hopefully, the role ar
path the Energy Project Committee should take would be determined. He
stated he had no information other than that.
Mr. Vos stated Chae, apparently, the number of people's names being sub-
mitted for the Energy Project Co�ittee was not very great. Also, Ms. Modig
had explained to the Planning Commission what was meant by the statement
she had made on page 3, paragraph 7, last sentence, of the 3uly 11, 1978,
Comnunity Development Coum�ission minutes relative to Mr. Dave Harris being
chairperson of the Energy Project Coumtittee for a short,time.
Mr. Christensen stated that the Commission members had copies of the
"State Energy Code - Building Code Division" that h ai been adopted by
the City, As it sCood tight now, the City had a form�used for design and
evaluation criteria for energy conservation that had to be filled out,
and the standards by which that was judged was A.S.H.R.A.E. (American
Society of Aeating, Refrigerating, and Air Conditioning Engineers, Inc.).
He had checked with neighborhing municipalities and they were going through
this, too. .
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COMMUNITY DEVEL6PMENT COt�AtISSION ME$TING AUGUST 8 1978 PAGS 2
Mr. Christensen pointed out Item C on page 3 which stated that, "in
additian to the criteria set forth in this section, the proposed design
shali consider energy conservation in determining the orienCation of Che
building on its site; the geometric shape of the building; the building
aspect ratio (ratio of length to width); the number o£ stories for a
given floor area requirement; the thermal mass nf the building; the exterior
surface color; shading or reflections from adjacent structurea, surround-
ing surfaces or vegetation; opportunities for natural ventilation; and
wind direction and speed.°
Mr. Christensen stated he had brought this to the Commission because
questions had been ratsed at the last meeting.
Mr. Christensen gave the Commissioners copies oE a xeport entitled,
"Energy Conservation, a Management Report for State and Local Governments".
He stated it was a little overview and background of what local governments
could do on energy conservation.
Mr. Vos referred to page 3, Sth paragraph, "�fforts of state and local
governments to contxol private-sector use of energy should consider actions
to affect energy use in residential and coamiercial huildings, transportation
services, and industry. The fundamental government role in promoting energy
energy demand. Voluntary actions are designed to inform or enlist coopera-
tion. Two examples are programs to make consumers aware of the energy used
by various appliances or to promote home improvements that cut down on
energy consumption. Regulatory actions compel compliance based on govern-
mental responsibility £or public health, safety, and convenience. Examples
are building code revisions, mandating minimum home insulation standards
or ordinances requiring builders to file energy impact statements for new
developments." Mr. Vos stated that this was what the Commission had talked
about at their last meeting. He stated that this report could give some
good goals and objectives for the Energy Project Committee. Referring'to
the last sentence of that paragraph, Mr. Vos stated that it seemed like
mosC of tfie development questions were about drainage and sewage rather
than energy.
Mr. Vos stated he had been a 2iCtle disappointe@ in the Planning Co�ission
when Ms. Modig had brwght up the fact that tax incentives might be the
way to go to encourage more conserving. The Planning Commission's reaction
was tfiat was something that could never be changed. He stated that by
looking at this report, it might help the Energy Project Committee get
off dead center.
Mr. Oquist stated he thought the Planning Commission was having trouble
getting the scope and purpose for the Energy Project Committee. This
Coumdsaion had discussed that at some length at their last meeting.
What was the Energy Project Coamdtt�e's scope7 To write up a policy or "�
make a reco�endation? Mr. Oquist felt it was just to write a policy
for the city and the regulatory body would have to come out of staff.
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COt�IC7NITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSI�N MEETING AUGUST 8, 1478 __ PAGE 3
MOTION by Herman Bergman, seconded by Kenneth Vos, that the report entitled,
"Energy Conservation, A Management Report for State 8nd Local Governmenta"
prepared by National Science Foundation be received by the Community
Development Coomiission and be submitted to the Planning Cmnmission for
informational purposes. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion.
carried unanimously.
Mr. Christensen stated that, to bring the Co�nission up to date, there
had been a staff review of the Transportation Plan and Housing Plan update.
Revislons would be made within the next week. Also, they were still at
the point where they were looking at a format for the Comprehensive
Development Plan, to make it a working document rather than just verbage.
ADJOURAih9ENT :
MOTION by Herman Bergman, seconded by Renneth Vos, to adjourn the meeting.
Upon a voice vote% all voting aye, Chairman Oquisf�declared' the Cominunity
pevelogment Commission meeting of August 8, 1978 adjourned at 8:00 P.M.
Respectfully sub tted,
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L n Saba
Recording Secretary
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CITY OF F'RIDLEY
APPEALS COMMI5SION PtI:F.TING - AL'GUST 15. 1978
CALL TO ORDER
Vice Chairperson Gabel called the August 15, 1978 Appeals Commission
meeting to order at 7:30 P.M.
ROLL CALL
I4embers Present: Mr. Plemel, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Kemper, Mr. Baxna
Members Ahsent: Ms. Schnabel
6thers Present: Mr. Ron Holden, Building Inspector
APPROVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES OF SULY 25 1978
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Kemper, to approve the Appeals
Commission minutes of July 25, 1978 as written. Upon a voice vote,
a11 voting aye, Vice Chairperson Gabel declared the motion carried
unanimously.
1.
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N.E. PURSUAtIT TO SECTION
CITY CODE A VARIANCE IS NEEDED BECAUSE THE FRONT YAKll SE'1'lSacx
WILL BE NON-CONFORMING BY 5 FEET. (Request by Richard Glumac,
5725 Quincy Street N.E., Tridley, MN 55432)
MOTION by Mr. Kemper, seconded by Mr. Plemel, to oven the public
hearing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice Chairperson Gabel
declared the public hearing open at 7:33 P.M.
Ma, Gabel asked if Mr. Glumac was present. Fie acknowledged he was
and he and Mrs. Glumac stepped forward. Ms. Gabel asked him to
explain what he needed.
Mr. Glumac stated he wanted to construct a vestibule at the front
of his home similar to the one in the rear of the home. Iie stated
his Yeasons were to conserve energy for Che home and allow an
entrance with more space.
Nls. Gabel read the staff report as follows:
ADMItdISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
5725 Quincy Street N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.053, 4, A, requiring a minimum front yard setback of
35 feet. ,
Public purpose served by this requirment is to allow for off-street
parking without encroaching on the public right of way and also ror
aesthetic consideration to reduce the "building line of sight"
encroachrnent into the neigh6or's front yard.
C-'
�peals Commission Meetin� Auguat 15 1978 Page 2 �
S7ATED }iARDSHIP:
Please approve the addition of a vestibule with a 5'Q" projection
to the front of said property. This vestibule is being built
mainly to conserve energy. 7he property directly north of said
prop2rty (5735 Quincy) is on a circ]e and setback at an angle
and does not line up with said property. Also, the second lot
to the South of said property (5705 Quincy) has had a front
projection for years.
C. ADt?'INISTRATIVE S7AFF REVIFW:
The petitiva�er's verifying survey and plans shorr that the addition
will be �G.25 feet from ttie front property 1ine. Whiie it is true
that the house to the North is located in a cul-de-sac, other houses
to the Scuth generally conform to a 35 foot setback from the front
property line. There is a 12 foot boulevard in th5s area, which
would make the addition approximately 42 feet froro the curb line.
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Ms. Gabel asked Mr. GZumac how the vestibule would conserve energy.
Mr. Glumac stated when you open the front door now you are auto-
matically outside, thien you have a vestibule you are not outside
and not letting the heat out.
Mr. iIolden brought in the aerial of the area for the Commission to
review.
Ms. Gabel asked if they needed room in the entxy to facilitate storage
and people coming in. She asked Mr. Glumac if he had spoken to any
of his neighbors.
Mr. Glumac stated he had and they had no problem with it.
Mr. Ilolden stated it would total about 22X lot coverage and you are
allowed 25Y.
Mr. Plemel asked Mr. Glumac if the siding would be the same.
`Sr. Glumac stated yes, everything will be Che same.
Mr. Ilolden state@ the other additions to the home are done in good
taste.
Mr. Plemel asked Mr. Glumac if he planned on doing the work himself.
Mr. Glumac stated some of it but he would also be hiring a contractor.
?'is. Gabel asked for any comments or questions from the audience.
tg1TI0N by Mr. Rzmper, seconded by Mr. Barna to c2ose the public
heaxing on number 1 on the agenda. IIpon a voice vote, all voting
aye, Vice Chairperson Gabel declared the public hearing closed at
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CITY 0� FRIITLEY
PI.ANNING COd�AiLS8I0N MQETING - AUGUST 23, 1978
.
CALt TO ORDSR:
Chairperson Harris called the August 23, 1978, Planning Co�ission
meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Membera Present: ���?�rd Haaris,rV��g�:n�.�' S��iA�bz�;�B�i$Ll'e�`�son
Bruce Peterson, �nnie Modig; Ned Storla
Members Abseht: James.Lengen€eld.:(Bruce Peterson representing),
LeRoy OquisY (Connie Modig representing)
Othera Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APP80VE PLANNING COrAffSSLON MINUTES: AUGUST 9, 1978:
�ON by Virginia Schnabel, seconded by Bob Peterson, to approve the
Auguat 9, 1978, Planning Canmiesion minutes as written.
Mr. Bruce Peterson stated that on page 9 of the minutea, last paragraph,
regarding Mr. Langenfeld's motion to reco�end denial of request by
Woodcrest Baptist Church to use Locke Park Soccer Field, Mr. Langenfeld
wanted to indicate that his strong opposition was not church versus
atate, but the fact that the prime time was being taken away from the
citizens. Private organizations should pay their share and be a part
of ttre first-come, first-serve basis.
Mr. Harris stated that the City Cwncil did not approve the request
by Woodcreat Baptist Church for useof the Locke Park Soccer Field. IE
was on a firat-come, first-serve basis.
Mr. Boardman stated that Mr. Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director,
vas working up a fee schedule to submit Co the City Manager for
campensation for use of facilities.
Mr. Harria stated that city programs took priority, but at other timea,
it was a first-c�e, first-serve basis.
U�I A VOICE VOTS, ALL VOTING AYS, �$��-��r7S 1�ECLA�EP:e:TH�i MOT I0N
C88RIl?D UNAN IMOUSLY.
PLANNiNG COPII+IISS�ON MBETING, AUGUST 23, 1978 - PAG& 2
1. CONTINUED: DISCUSSION ON ENSRGY PRQ7ECT C�AffTTHE:
A. Potential Members of Energy Pro3ect Committee:
Mr. Harris stated that, as the Conmission could see, they had only
two rea�anes from two applicants for the Energy Project Committee.
He ata[ed the resume from Mr. Sharton was very impressive.
Ms. Schnabel asked how the Plannimg Cammission was going to go
ahout finding more members?
Mr. Harrisstated the next step was prob�ibly soliciting in the
coamiunity .
Mr. Bob Peterson stated that when the Parks & Recreation Co�ission
was setting up citizen caumdttees for the park areas, they had
found it very beneficial to go to the Planning Cou�ission, City
Council, and the member co�aissions asking them to list names of
citizens who would be interested in serving on these coamittees.
Fram those sourcea, they had gotten well over 170 names. He sLBted
that might not be a bad procedure at this poinY.
Mr. Boardman stated that the Planning Co�ission could submit a
formal request to the CiCy Council asking for aid in getting
members for the Energy Project Cammittee.
Mr. Bruce Peterson asked if the city had a list of people who had
submitted resumes indicaCing an interest in serving on co�issions
nr committees?
Mr. Boardman stated that the list vas very meager at this point in
time. Yeriodically, the city asked for volunteers through the
city newaletter, but Chere was little response.
Mr. Harris stated that the Planning Co�ission could do as
Mr. Peterson suggested--request help from the City Council and
the other coamissions.
Ms. Schnabel asked if there would be any interest through the
Chamber of CommerceY
Mr. Harria stated he was surprised that there had been no response
from the service organizations.
Mr. Bob Peterson sCated�that he knew from experience with the
Chamber of Com�erce and the Rotary Club, if you wanted to get their
interest, you had to addresa them directly or co�unicate directly
with them.
Ms. Schnabel also suggested contacting the League of Women Voters
and the Fr3dley Women's Club.
PLANNING CO2•AfLSSION MEETING, AUGUST 23, 1978 - PAGE 3
Mr. Boardman aaked what the Coumdssion's timetable was for the
&nergy Project CommitCee7
Mr. Harris stated he would like to start holding organizational
meetings no later than December lat. They had originally intended
staffing by September 1sC.
MOTION by Bob Peterson, seconded by Bruce Peterson, to staff the
Energy Project Coumittee at the Planning Co�ission meeting on
October 4, 1978.
Ms. Schnabel stated that Mr. Anderaon and Mr. Wharton, who had
submitted resumes, should be contacted to tell them what the Planning
Co�isaion was doing, that the Planning Co�ission appreciated their
interest and wanted them to continue their interest, and that;the
Planning Co�ission would be making their decision at their October 4th
meeting.
Mr. Boardman stated he would write letters to Mr. Anderson and
Mr. S�harton.
UPON A VOICE VOTS, ALL VOTING AYE, C�A IIitfA�1��R�A�13DE�liA$6AI�SM�T IDN
CARR7ED UNAN]MOUSLY.
2. DISCUSSION ON WORK LOAA SCHSDULS:
Mr. Boardman stated he had been trying to get something done on the work
ioad schedule, but he had been working on the Zoning Code. He sSated
that the Planning Conm�ission would have the 2oning Code for review at
their next meeting.
3. RECSIVE SPBCIAL ENVIRONI�II.+NTAL QUALITY COI�AIISSION MINUTES: JULY 27, 1978:
MOTION by Bob Yeterson, seconded by Bruce Peterson, Co xeceive the
July 27, 1978, Special Snvironmental Quality Covmission minutes.
Mr. Bruce Peterson stated that the Environmental qual3ty Commission was
in the process of preparing, with Mr. Ray Leek, a pasition paper in
regard to the MnDOT Plan.
Mr. Bruce Peterson stated that it was the Environmental Quality
Commission's concern that there were so many unanswered questions in
the Plan, that it was difficult to make a position. In reviewing the
minutes, the Planning C�lssion would notice that there were a number
of basic questions th�t were unanswered in the Plan. Before the Environ-
mental Quality Co�ission could make a good input to the State on the
MnDOT Plan, the Commission needed to have some of those queations answered.
Mr. Harris asked if the improvements to the Anoka County Airport were
going to be made2
Mr. Bruce Peterson stated Yhat the upgrading was scheduled. This was
another question the Commission had: What type of upgrading was going
PLANNING COMPffSSION MEETING AUGUST 23 1978 - PAGE 4
to be done and what type of aircraft was it going to be able to handle?
The budget figure was $600,000, which, he felt, was not a lot of money
for construction,
Mr. Boardman stated that the Anoka County Airport was designed as an
intermediate airport. It only needed one more runway. The whole
airporC situation, as it was now, could handle intetmediate sir traffic.
Mr. Bob Peterson stated they would also have to upgrade the tower
facilities and expand the hours of mauning the tower as the tower was
only manned on weekands at the present time.
Mr. Bruce Peterson stated tbese were the Commission's concerns, because
these Chings were not stated in the MuDOT Plan.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, THS MOTI�I CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. RECEIVE HUMAN RBSOURCES COMMISSION MIN[3TES: AUGSST 1, 1978:
MOTION by Ne� Storla, seconded by Connie Modig, to receive the
August 1, 1978, Human Resources Commission minutes. Upon a voice vote,
all voting aye, Chair�am^Hasaisiddci�anadmGhe:motion carried unanimously.
S. RECSIV& CObF10NITSi DSVELOPMBNT C01$ffSSION MINUTES: AUGUST 8, 1978:
MpTIOP by Bruce Peterson, seconded by Connie Modig, to receive the
August 8, 1978, Comanunity Development Copmission minutes: Upon a voice
vote, all vot3ng aye,Chairmaa_Harris�decla�ed-entee�motion caxried unanimously.
6. RBCEIVS APPEALS CODfMISSION MINUTHS: AUGUST 15, 1978:
A. Item 2, Variances for 534 Faixmont St. N.E. have to go through
Planning Commission to the City Council because of objection
of neighbor. Reco�ended for approval by Appeals Commission.
i�TI�i by Virginia Schnabel, seconded by Bob Peterson, to receive
the August 15, 1978, Appeals Co�mmission minutes.
Mr. Harris asked what action should be taken on the item listed
aboveY
Ms. Schnabel stated that it needed no action unlesa the P1ann.ing
Commission wished to take action.
Mr. Boardman stated the item was singled out because of the
objectian of the neighbor.
Mr. Harris stated that with all the property in the city being
built on, he was sure they would be seeing more and more situaCions
like this. People were trying to stuff houaes on everything that
existed, no matter what si2e.
PLANNING COA4IISSION MB&TING, AUGUST 23, 1978 - PAGE 5
Mr. Harris asked Mr. Boardman what had happened with the situation
of the 40-foot lots?
Mr. Boardman stated that Mr. Gordon Hedlund had filed a suit with
the city. The City was putting together a histary o£ 40-foot lots
for that case.
Ms. Schnabel stated that it was true that in that particular area,
in the past they had permitted construction on lots less than 7500 ft.,
but had never gone down to a 40-foot lot.
Mr. Hartis stated that what was important was how the city was
taxing 40-foot lots at the time the permits were applied for. If
the city was, in facC, taxing them as buildable sites, the city
could have difficulty with that. If the city was only taxing the
lots at a naminal amount, then the city had a pretty strong case.
Mr. Boardman stated that, as far aa he knew, the city was nct taxing
them as buildable sftes.
Ms. Schnabel stated she would like to know when the above mentioned
court case was going to be heard, because it would be interasting to
attend. She asked Mr. Boardman f� he-co.uld7•in�osm the Elannfng
Commisaion members of the date.
kir, Boardman ss$ted that he would find ouC and notify the Planning
Coumission members.
Mr. Harris stated thia was probably a good thing, because ik would
clear the air once and for all on 40-foot lota.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYS, Cii�7R�46�N� ��A.RR�I�LkS'RS!� 3tI�Si�O� FJN
CARR ED UNAN 7MOUSLY.
7. OTiIER BUSINBSS•
A. Management Plan from the Canadian Financial Co�oration for
MOTION by BoD Yeterson, seconded by Ned Storla, to receive the
Management Plan for the Village Green Erom the Canadian Financial
Corporation.
Mr. Boardman stated that if the Coumiissioners had any questions ot
concerns after going through the plan, Chey should bring those
concerns to the City Council. The City Council would be reviewing
the Management Plan on September 25 ar their conference meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, EHA�;-�Rit��D�aI:E�RE15:T�: �� ICIN
CARRIED UNAN]MOUSLY.
PLANATING CClff�ffSSION MEETING AUGUST 23 1978 - PAGS 6
B. Innsbruck North:
MOTION by Bruce Peterson, seconded by Connie Modig, to receive a
letter to A. L. Messerli from Joseph Alexander of the D.N.R.
Mr. Harris stated he wished Mr. Alexander could come and take a look
at the area now. If there was anything left there, it would be a
miracle.
Mr. Boardman stated that the City Council had put a moratorium
on the lots for two weeks until this response was received.
Mr, Bruce Peterson stated he was conc2rned about that area, because
he thought there were already problems from improper dredging and
basement problems.
Mr. Harris stated he had a discussion with Mr. Boardman and other
sCaff inembers to see if they could put some kind of attachment on
the records telling p�ople who bought the property, when they came
through with the title search, the condition of the property. He
felt the people were entitled to that information.
Mr. Bob Peterson wanted to know why Pridley did not have ."Truth
in Housing" in its Building Code.
Mr. Boardman stated that because of the involvement with the Housing
Maintenance Code, the Planning Commission and the City Counc3l had
recoumended not to get into that situation at this time. The Plannipg
C�miasion had wanted to see hoc,r the systematic multiple Housing
Maintenance Code worked before they got involved in single family
ma3ntenance.
Mr. Harris atated that, in any case, he really felt that, although
the aubsoil may have settled enough for the structure sites, the
houses on West Danube were bound to have problems with surrounding
yards and settling driveways.
Mr. Boardman stated that he too was surprised that they were only
required to "muck" out for the house foundation. That may be one
of the reasons why there were basement problems.
Ms. Schnabel stated that she thought the city had to take a good look
a[ this situation, because wasn't the city going to be faced with
people coming back at some future time saying the city ezrored in
permitting this area to be filled?
Mr. Boardman stated that the city had to rely somewhat on the
professianals. When an engineering firm came to the city and said
they would do the work and the work was guaranteed, then why shouldn`t
the city issue the permit7
PLANNING COI�IISSION M6BTING, AUGU3T 23, 1978 - PAGE 7
Mr. Bob Peterson asked who was going to be liable seven years down
the line--the engineering firm or the city?
Mr. Boardman stated that if it came back to the city, the city
would go back to the engineering fi2m.
Mr. Harris stated that he really $hought that the people who bought
the home, not even the first owners, but 3-5 years down the line,
should be made aware of the situation under which the house was
constructed and the area surrounding the property. He thought it
was the city's reaponsibility to inform them. He did not know of
any other way, but with an attachment on the title search.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE,CHAIIFIKAII_�+� D�ELARED 2I'.E�'MOTION
CARR]ED UNAN]MOUSLY.
MOTIpN by Virginia Schnabel, seconded by Bob Peteraon, that the
Planning Co�ission rec�mend to CiCy Council that on the specific
lots in question in Innsbruck North, as we11 as on future area
prohlem developments in the city that might occur, that an attachment
to the deed be required so that the buyer of a specific property,
such as in the wetlands area, be made aware of the circumstances
of the condition of the building site.
Mr. Bruce Peterson asked hov the city would define probLem areas4
Cou�dn't they jnst stay as "any additional new housing"2 There were
going to be borderline cases.
Mr.,�rd�� stated that would be left to the discretion of the
building department,
Mr. Bob Peteraoa stated that the citizenry would he coacerned, and
when they felt there was a problem, they would come to the city.
UPOli A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHA`�ItIYtAN= 4(i`AAL�R[[�iI7��I;S1�$��?�fOT ION
CARRIED UNAN]MOUSLY.
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Respectfully subm'tted,
Saba
Recording Secretary
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HUI•1AN RESOURCES CdMI'IISSION
MEETING
AUGUST 3, 1978
2�ffiERS PREST�NT: Ned Storla, Mary Jo Dobson, Mary Van Dan
MEFffiERS ABSENT: David Thiele, Marlyis Carpenter
OTHERS PRESE.1Tt Pete Fleming, Administrative Assistant
Peter Treuenfels, 5460 - 7th St, N,E.
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Storla called the meeting to order at 7:38 p.m.
APPROVAL OF JULY 6 1978 HUMAN RESOURCES COP'Il"ffSSiON MINUTES:
The following corrections were made to the minutes:
Page 3, Sth paragraph, Mr. Ken Metcalf should be changed to
Ms. Kam Metcalf.
Page 7, second from last paragraph, first sentence, should read:
"Ms. Dobson s[ated she was thinking of s�e kind of emergency
disaster relief to help the £lood victi.ms in Austin and
Rochester, Minnesota..."
A10TION by Mary Van Dan, seconded by Mary Jo Dobson, to approve the minuCes
as amended, IIpon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
1. DISCUSSION OF AFFIRPIATIVE ACTION;
Ms. Dobson stated she had checked with the city and had found out that
Mr. Fleming was the "affirmative action person".
Mr. Fleming stated that he had been informed that, historically, the
Human Resources Commission had been instrumental in the City's establishing
an affirmative action program. Iie thought that was a"f.eather in the cap"
for this Comission. He stated that since he worked largely with personnel,
he was very aware of the City''s program.
ii[jMAN RESOURCCS COMMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 3, 1978 - Page 2
Mr. Fleming stated that the. City's Affirmative Action Plan was initiated in
1475. One basic area it covered was relative to yendors, contractors, and
subcontractors who were encouraged to allow no discriminatory practices
whatsoever. The•wording was stamped on all the City's invoices, purchase
orders, inc. To his knowledge, that was functioning without a flaw.
Mr. Fleming stated the second area that he knew more about was relative
to employment. The City had a rather extensive hiring procedure in which
the City tried to find minorities who would be willing and able to fill the
various positions within the City. He really saw this as the nub of any.effective
Affirmative Action program.
Mr. Fleming stated he had copied those parts of the Aff-irmative Action Plan
that he thought essential to the Commission. On the first page, they would
find the steps that were involved in the recruiting process in the City's
plan. On the second page, he had put together a"Coordination of Hiring
Practices" sheet shortly after he began working for the City. He had
tried to make it as practical as possible, to ensure that none of the steps
of the plan would be eliminated. He stated, that the last page was relative
to exit interviews that he felt was another importance component of the
Affirmative Action program.
Mr. Fleming stated that °selection" and "terminat.i.cn" :uere the. key aspeets
of the Affirmative Actinn plan. The City, bg virL-ue oi this pian, was
responsible to include, in the dissem�nation of infarmation rela*_ive L-o
havins a job opening, the various minoritg organizations. They also adver-°
tiaed in two of the most gopular newspapers and included the Aifirmative
Action "equal opportunity employer" in all of their advertisements.
Mr. Fleming stated that.he personally felt exit interviews wererextremely
valuable in getting a handle on whether people already employed felt
there was discrimination of any kind. They invited all the City employees.
to have these exit interviews prior to separation from City employment.
It was important because wben an employee was about to leave, that employee
would feel more free to share the good and bad, relative to the City and
the City's atmosphere. He was pleased to say that in the exit interviews
he had conducted, he could not detect any problem with discrimination.
The last thing rSr. Fleming wished to share with the Commission was
relative to the "Utilization Analysis" sheets given to the CommissYon
at the last meeting. To put these sheets in context, he wanted �o share
some additional comments. The City had about 120 full-time employees
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who came under this plan. Accordingly, the turnover was relatively low.
In 197.7, the turnover was 10 employees and thus far in 1978, it was six
employees. So, the City did not do a lot of advertising, recruiting, .
and hiring, Second��, the City was askP� annuaIly to fill out
Yorms for,the �qua1 Employment Opportunitq Cocimission, and Ghere�was
,.never any response from this Commission in getting back to the City
with any favorable comments or criticism.
Mr. Fleming stated that another pxoblem the City was having was that
the minority population, other than women, was very, very low--2.13% in
Fridley. That did create a problem. Currently, the employment in the
city of minorities, other than women, was about .7%. Another problem
relative to this was the transporYation problem.
Mr. Fleming stated the last thing he would like to point out was that
the City has had a rather aggressive CETA program. He did feel that
'it generally had been very beneficial to the City. A number of these
employees had made a fine contribution to the city and, more importantly,
a number o£ people, in the caurse of their employment with the city,
had been able to find non-subsidized employment.
Ms. Van Dan stated tt�at Mr. Fleming's report clarified some things in
her mind, She was really concerned about the lack of racial representa-
tion in the city, but with the low turnover rate, she could see tfiere
was not the opportunity or need for a person to apply for a po�ition. Also,
transportation was a problem. She asked i£ the job descriptions were
ever actually revised?
Mr. Fleming stated that, yes, a number of job descriptions were revised
' quite significantly. Whenever there was a job opening, he would go over
the job description to see if what was being.asked was accuraCe, whether
qualifications were really necessary, etc.
Mr. Storla asked the Commission if they felt the need to change anything
in the institution of the Affirmative Action programl
Mr. Fleming stated that one thing that could be changed was to find
more recruitment resources than they were not now aware of. He sCated he
would appreciate any comments or information in this regard, particularly
with the handicapped. '
Ms. Dobson suggested that Mr. Flemi.ng contact the Minnesota Women's
Center at the University of Minnesota as it was a very good resource and
referral service.
Mr. Storla wondered if this Commission should ask the different human
rights commissions in the Minnesota League of Human Rights Commissions
if they had any problems with their Affirmative Action programs. ,Perhaps
Fridley was typical.
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Ms. Van Dan stated that with the sma11 minority percentage, she did not
think Fridley was far off. The biggesL answer to the question was the
low turnover rahe, and because of that, they were probably not going
to change the figures far a long time. She stated she saw the Coumiission's
role at this time to see that the city conformed to Federal regulations
and to recommend, when the Cownission knew of any opPortunities or places
where qualified candidates could apply, that these people apply.
Mr. Fleming stated that relatively recently in the city, a number of
women had been promoted to more significant positions. He saw that as
a positive step.
Ms. Van Dan stated she would like to thank Mr. Fleming for his report as
it clarified for the Commission what the policies and procedures were in the
city, and gave them a clearer picture of where the city stood and why.
MOTI4N by Mary Van Dan, seconded by Mary 7o Dobson, to table further
discussion on the Affirmative Action program, Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
2. DIuCUSSION ON DISASTEP. RELIEF:
Ms.'Dobson staCed she had brough.t this be£are the Commission at the last
meaCing Yo help the flood victimil i.n Aus�an and P.ochestar, ldinneseta. It
had begun by a �elevision newscast on July 5th rcgar�ing emergency suppi.y
pick-u�:s at f:ive different metropolitan airaorT.�;. She p2d stated to the
Commiosi,on L'hat she would like to coor.dinafe efforts for Fridley to get
clo�hing and car.ned goods out to the airpqrts and also to lat people
knpw where there was an information center.
Ms. Dobson stated that aftex much telephone calling, she finally found
out that Che Civil Air Patrol was handling the £lying of the emergency
clothes and canned goods, not on7.y to Rochester and Austin, 6uC also to
� Gary, Minnesota, the toznado victims. Theq were working aiong with the
Salvation Army and the Red Cross who were coordinating the handling of
goods in the different areas. She was told they needed canned goods,
clothing, and bottled water, that they were open from 8 a..m. to 8 p.m.
at the five airports,and were going to collect until the following
Wednesday.
Ms. Dobson stated she then contacted both the DFL and Republican parties
who were willing to knock on doors and canvass the neighborhoods. She
contacted the Fridley churches, and they were going to make announce-
ments in their Sunday services about the clothing and canned goods drive.
Ms. Dobson stated that by Monday,:she found out that enough clothing
and food had heen collected, but that help was needed for clean-up.
Ms. Dobson had talked to a person at the Cl�amber of Commerce, and this
person had notified the Fridley Sun about the clothing and canned goods
drive, and the need for clean-up volunteers. Ms. Dobson stated that
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what they were going to do was provide transportation for people to go
down to these areas to help with the clean-up, Ms. Dobson stated they
received food and clothing from, not only Fridley, but the whole metro-
politan area. .But, no one responded to the need for clean-up volunteers.
Ms. Dobson stated thmt by Wednesday, the Salvation Army and the Red
Cross were no longer collecting. The Red Cross was then working on
fund raising. She atated that maybe next Cime she would have more time
and could work with the Chamber of Co�erce and possi6ly the retailers.
Ms. Van Dan stated that Ms. Dobson had found a very good plan of action.
Maybe an emergency plan or a disaster plan that could be coordinated with
Civil Defense and some.of the other programs could be sef up that the
citizens could use themselves. "
Mr. Storla thanked Ms. Dobson for her report.
3. DISCUSSION OF ANOKA COUNTY HUA7¢,N RIGHTS DAY:
Mr. Storla stated that he had contacted the chairpersons of the Columbia
Heights, New Brighton, and Anoka Human Rights Co�issions, and they
were all very enthusiastic about an Anoka County Human Rights Day. They
had agreed to have a planning meeting on either September 14th or 28th
at the Anoka County Public LiUrary. Mr: Storla staCed that Columbia
Heights had just had a big turnover in their coumiission, also, and were
discussing their goals and objectives, New Brightoa seemed to be very
active, and Anoka sounded inactive. Mr. Storla was asking that tha
chairpersons and any other interested persons come to the first meeting
for the purpose of socialization and planning the agenda and then to
decide when the first meeting would be for all the coumiission members to
attend. Mr. Storla stated that was the Anoka County part of the Human
Rights Day.
NTr. Storla stated that the National Human Rights Day was December 10,
set by presidential proclamation in 1949. The Co�ission would have to
decide if they wanted their own Human Rights Day on the National Human
Rights Day.
Mr. Storla stated he would keep the Commission up-to-date on the Anoka
County Human Rights Day.
4. DISCUSSION OF ELIMINATING STRUCTURAi. BARRIERS FOR HANDICAPPED:
Ms. Van Dan stated that,she had thought that one of.the things that
would be of great value to the Comnission in analyzing architectural
barriers throughout the city was to go to the handicapped people them-
selves. She had then called the Coyrage Center and Dr. Don Mauer,
the Rehabilitation Engineer, tiad said that the young.handicapped people
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would be delightad to be involved in the survey. It would be an
opportunity for them to get out into the community and perform a service
to other people. Theg would be willing to come out and assi.st in a
survey any time the Commission would like to set it up. Ms. Van Dan
staT.ed she had also asked Dr. Mauer if a film entitled, "The Sound of
Trumpets", could be available. Th3s film had been considered the very
best film for the general public in defining a barrier. Dr. Mauer
ittm�ediately sent- out a cuurier on Wednesday with the film. Since the
film had been made available to the Commission, Ms, Van Dan stated she
thought that rather than talking about barriers, it would be better
to view the film. She thought this film might be something for the
H�an Rights Day to show the general public. It would be a very good
educational source. '
Ms. Van Dan stated that �ost everyone was familiar with the handicapped
parking signs. rridley had an ordinance so people woiild be ticketed
if they used the parking space inappropriately. But, she stated, did
people know that parking �pob had to be wider than normal parking'spotsl
Did people know that a sidewalk had to be at least 48" wide for a wheel-
chair, Chat a ramp could rise no higher than one foot in 12 feet oP lengeh,
and that doors had to be at least 32" wide2
T�ir. Starla declared a ten-r�znute break aY, 8:55 p.m.
14r. Storla stated that the chairperson of the New Bxighr.on tium:�n Itights
Comti�zssion had indicated Y.h.at Fridley was poor in the area of: eiimi.nating
ba-trierv, This person hsd cit.ed the e.xample that the Target S1:ore ;aas
revnodeling, and the ruidth oi tize hall ta the batiituoms was 20 inches.
Mr. Fleming stated that in reading the news .recently, he had understood
that public buildings bui.lt since 1963 must be barrier-free;however, that
was only true if the people in power made a decision that the building
was in general need of renovation. If the building was in need of
general renovation, then they could go ahead, but it must be barrier-free.
Ms. Van Dan stated that was true, You could go by the old regulations
if you were in an older building, but if you made any massive repairs or
renovations, then you must confoxm to the new regulatioes, But, some-
where there was also the fact that you were not reqnired to mak� pour
facility barrier-free. But, if you had a public Uuilding, she stated
that it was not only common sense to make it barrier-free, but also
good business. She stated ttiat, of the<few dentists she knew iu Fridley,
it was impossible to get a wheelchair patient into their buildings to
see them. She saw not only a survey of public buildings like the library,
churches, and schools, but also going around to some of the businesses
and then sending recommendations for improvement to them stating fihat
the Human Resources Commission and the Cow-abe Center had made a surveg
of. the city and found but some of the problems thaC the handicapped were
facing. :
HUMAN RESOURCES-COMMISSION MFETING, AUGUST 3, 1978_ - PAG� 8
OTHER BUSINESS:
A.
�;ia
MOTION by Mary Jo Dobson, seconded by Mary Van Dan, to receive a copy of '
"'Fridley Futures - A Public Seminar for Human Resource Development". Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously.
B, MINNESOTA kIUMl1N RIGHTS COMFIISSION:
Mr. Storla stated that aC this time the Co�ission was not a memUer of
the Minnesota Human Rights Co�ission, At a Minnesota Human Rights
Conmtission meeting he had attended, they had spent all of their time on
internal affairs. At this time, he reco�ended that the Commission not
reconsider membership with the Minnesota Human Rights Commission. In the
meantime, he would like to attend another meeting to see what direction
the Minnesota Human Rights Commission planned to go.
C. CONG1t�G�ITE DINING:
Ms. Van Dan stated thaY Parkview School had been approved fo: Congregate
Dining. On Tuesday, August 8, at 9:00 a.m. at City Hall, P1r. Toa Myhra,
Ms. Rickie Bergquist, Colonel Martin, herself, and aayone interested would
be meeting to evaluate Parkview and see what needed to be done. The
recovm�endation was to go with the program as soon as the building was
accessible.
D. COMM[TNITY SCHOOL ADVISORY COUnCIL MEETING:
Ms. Dobson stated that the first meeting of,the Community School Advisory
Council cras Thursday, August 10, at 7:30 p.m. As the new representaLive
from the Co�ission, she would be attending the meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Mary Jo Dobson, seconded by Mary Van Dan, to adjourn the meeting -
at'lO:OS p.m: Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.
Respectfully sub itted,
Lynn Saba
Record3ng Secretary
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Mr. Storla stated that if they did send a communication to any businesa,
they should actually tell what needed to be fixed, widened, etc.
Ms. Van Dan stated that one comment many handicapped made was that they
hated being treated like garbage by having to come in a back or side door
where garbage was thrown out or freight was delivered.
Mr. Flemin� stated that the City had provided handicapped parking and
the depressed curbing within the last year. Also, a modest amount of
money had been appropriated so that a11 new curbing would be depressed.
A certain amount of the oId curbing had been changed, with a goal to have
depressed curbing throughaut the city. Mr. Boardc�an had told him that in
June 1978 the City had applied to H.U.D. for a block grant to study
architectural barriers in the city and to get money to eliminate those
barriers. Another point was that the Building Inspection Division of the
city was hard at work implementing the State Building Code. As he under-
stood it, Chapfer 55 of it spoke to this in that all new commercial and
industrial buildings must be accessible to the handicapped. .Another con-
tribution the city was making was by helpfng both commercial and private
builders to try to make those 6uildings barrier-free that were not now
barrier-free.
Ms. Van Dan stated thnt if the City had actually applied for a block grant
and fartding, this Ca�ission should be involved.
Mr. Storla asked Mr. Fleming to check on what,the City was going to do
in regard to the barriers in the Civic Center and also to find out more
about the block grant.
MOTION by Mary Van Dan, seconded by Mary Jo Dobson, that the Conenission
go to the Target.Store on 53rd Ave. N.E. to evaluate the remodeling in
regard to architectural barriers. If the facility was not barrier-free,
then the Commission wou�d write a letter with sCrong recommendations to
Target. Upou a voice vote, all voting aye,. the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Fleming stated that if the situation had changed and it was now barrier-
free, he thought the Co�ission should thank Target for their changes.
It was also part of human resources to be supporting.
MOTION by Mary Van Dan, seconded by Mary Jo Dobson, to recommend to
City Council that if City Council decided to go with the transit service,
that one of the buses be a handicapped bus equipped with hydraulic lift
and �aheelchaixs. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously.