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PL 02/08/1978 - 30486'�� �,. � CITY OF F1�TDI�LY PLIINNING COMI*ZISa"ION M�ETING FEBRU��RY 8, 1978 CALL TO ORDER• � � Chairperson Harris called the February 8, 1978, Planning CUmmission meeting to order at 7:43 PoM. ROLL CALL• Members Present: Niembers Absent: Others Present: Shea, Bergman, Harrzs, Peterson, Schnabel I,angenfeld None Jerrc,ld Boardraan, City Planner APPROVE pLANI�T�NG COMMISSION MINUTES: JANUARY 25y 19�8 MOTION by Mr� Langenfeld, seconded by Mso Shea, to approve the January 259 1978, Planning Commission minutes. Ms. Schnabel commented that the Request for a Special IIse Permit SP#78-01, by Menard Cashway Lumber had been continued. She asked vrhen that item �rrould be handled. ,,,� Chairperson Harris said that on February 159 19789 there �voula be '_ a meeting at City Hall regarding this il;emo He said that a1J_ the - peopl� on the original mailing list as well as a11 the pe�ple that u�ed the sign�in sheet tivo�lc� be notifiedo Mr. Boardman indicated that it would be included on the agenda after the special meeting was held. UPON l� VOICE VOTE, all voting aye, ti�.e motion carried unanimausly. 1. PtTBLIC HEARIN'G: REOUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERvii TT SP #78-0?_, BY HI�RT CUST�M HOMES INC.: PER FRIDLEY CITY CODE SECTIOPT Z05,102, 39 N TO ALZO'JV THE EXPANSION OF THE SALE OF MOBTLE HOMES TO INCLUDE LOTS 4,5� & 6, BLOCK 1, CENTRAL VI�W MAIJOR; THE SAME BEING 7355 HIGHWAY �65 NE M4TIOIV by Mse Schnabel, seconded by P�r. Langenfeld, to open the Public Hearingo Upon a voice vote, all v�ting aye, Chairman Har�is declared the Public Hearing open at 7:47 P.M. Mr. Bo�rdman er.plained that the purpose of the Spzcial Use Permit request was to enable the expanding of the existing trailor £acili�ty. He said �vhat was proposed was a display �rea for double-dvides. Mr. Alvan Schrader of 7355 Iii�hway �#65, Fridley ti�,as presen_t �"1 at the meeting. He was representing Hart Custom H�mes, Inc. He otivns the Company. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - FEP,RUARY 8, 197& �Pa�e 2 Mr. Schrader showed the commission the�proposed plan for the Display area of the park. He also had an overlay of the �xisting operations to better indicate ho�v it woulci all fit together. Mr. Schrader erPlained that the existing facility tivas 140 feet vride by 510 feet 1ong. He said the facility had been in operation since �976. He showed how the property was situated in relation to�-?3-� Avenue. Mr. Schrader said that the Company was getting into th.e area selling double-tivicles and modular homesa He said that it rvas almost impossible to be able to display the double-wides and modular homes on the existing lot. He �'elt it ti�as necessary display �he nevr models in an environmental tyPe display. He said the pro�osed area would be set up in a residential-type situation. of to Mro Schrader said that vahat b��as being proposed was putting six units in on a semi-permanent display (probably turn-over once every six months� . He said that the six units vrould be 24 x 65 feet at the largest and 21� x L�0 feet at the smallesta He said they planned to put a court-yard type display 4vith a side�valk, shrubs� ancl grass into the proposed area. He said that by doing so' it bvould make it easier to move the units and also not disturb the court-yard, so that the court-yard would actually be a permanent item. He said they were trying �o accomplish an environmental display of how a model would look in a residential situation and_felt tha�L could be done . by using berming on the 73rd Avenue side and u�Cilizing trees, shrubs, etc. Mr. Schrader said that some of the ne��a models would conform to the Uniform Building Code. He said these models would be ordered from the factory and tvould be elevated onto basements and tivould result in a regular stationary house. He said that these models tiuould meet all the necessary codes. Mr. Schrader said that also by expanding their facility, they would be able to better meet the City Code of ten feet spacing bettiveen the display modelso He said that the single �vide inventory titrould be maintained Uasically in the existing area and the double-tivides and modular models vrould be displayed in the proposed areao He said that the court-yard paved street i•rould be named "Boulevard of Dreams��. Mr. Schrader said that Lots 4, 5& 6�rere each 60 feet wide and 200 feet in depth. He also explained the anticipated traffic flow into his Operations. ,�1, �� �_: , �� ,�,� .. , , `� � ,� �, PLAPINING COMMIaSION M�,rTII�dG - i�L'�RUAkY 8, 1978 Pa�e 3 M�, Sclinabel questioned the otivnership of several adjacent lots. Mr. Schrader er.plaineci that one of �he' adjacent lats tivas ovrned by the City and one Uras oti�rned by the County. Mr. Boardman explained_that the only lot the City had was the lot that a pump house was located on, Ms. Schnabel asked if any screening vrould be required. Mr. Boardman said that the only screening that erould be required would be around the base of the trailors by means of decorative blocks and such. He said that berming would also be required that Mr. Schrader had agreed to. Mr. Schrader commented that the displays would only be changed at a minimum of every six months and the m�imum of once per yearo Mr. Peterson indicated that there didn't appear to be any neighborhood objections. Mr. Boardman indicated that a vari:ance would be requested regarding the curbing. He said that due to the moving of the units, that curbing 1rould pose many problems. It w�as explained on the plans exactly where curbing ��rould be desired and lTJhere it tivould not be clesireda� Mr. Langenfeld asked if Mre Schrader agreed to all the stipul�tionse A�ro Schrader said that he had agreed on all the necessary stipul�tions that had been indicatedo Mr. Bergman asked if Mrm Schrader was in agreement with the proposed landscaping plan. Mr. Sehrader said tha.t he tivas in agr�ement ti9ith the landscapiilg plan as was indicated on the plans the Commission had before the�., Mr. Bergman indicated that he.was not avrare of any complaints resulting from any activity that had been in operation si�ce Iiart Custom Homes, Inc. lvent into that location. Mr. Schrader explained further about his operation, He said it would be an environmental display. He said that the double- wide HUD built; home was selling for bet�veen $20,000 and $30,00� and the modular home components were also selling for betu�reen $20,000 and �30,000. He said that Hart Custom Homes, Inc. wo�ald do the complete construction that �rould include the basement, se��rer, erater, etce and the cost tivould be approximaterly �45,000. He also pointed out that there would be long-term financing available. He said all the models would be HUD built under the netiv Federal standards or built to the Uniform }3uilding Code. .� PLANPIINC COMMISSION M�ETII�IG - FEBRU�IRY 8, 1978 Pa�e 4 Ms. Schnabel asked if Mr. Scrracier ��rould be putting up an ._� �� advertising sign on 73� Avenue� i`, P�r. Schrader said that the only net�r signage vrould be signs located in front of each model that vrould indicate the type of model� the square footage, and possibly the price. He saic� that the signs ti�rould be under three square feet. He said that they �rould also install a street sign indicating �'Boulevard of Dreams", but that there vrould not be any additional advertising signs needed at that time. MOTION by Mr.�Langenfeld� seconded by Mr. Peterson, to close the Public Hea.ring. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris dec�ared the'Public Hearing closed at 8:11 P.M. MOTIOPI by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Peterson, that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the request for a Special Use Permit SP #78-029 by Hart Custom Homes, Inc.: Per Fridley City Code Section 205.10z, 3, N to allow the expansion of the sale of mobile homes to include Lots 4,5 & 6� Block 1, Central Vievv Manor; the same being 7355 Hi�hti�ray �65 N�, t��ith the stipulations that the base of the mobile homes on display be properly screened� that curbing be provided as indicated on the proposed plans, and that berming be done along 73zAvenue. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried unanimously. � 2. RECEIVE �NVIRONMENTAL QUI�LITY COMNiISSION MINUT�S: T fl TTTT R T1ZT 1 r7 1�l I'7 O MOTIO�r by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. Sclinabel, that the Planning Commission receive the January 1?, 1978, Environmental Quality Commission minutes. Mr. Langenfeld said that the seconcl sentence of the second paragraph on Page 10 of the minutes should read, "It tivas done by computer and the people tixrere supplied ��rith books, materials, etc. , and it �rent up to 25 ep ople. �' Mr. Langenfeld said that the Noise Ordinance �ras discussed. He indicated that the Commission had mello�ved somewhat regarding the Noise Orclinance due to a statement made by Mro Steve Olson, Environmental Officer. "Mr. Olson had looked at the Noise Ordinance draft and, in a conversation lvith riro A'1 Perez, State E�P�A.� had come to the conclusion that there seemed r�ot to be a great noise problem in Fridley and it might be best for the Ci�ty to design an ordinance in vrhich it simply adapted State Standards for noise pollution control and detailed enforcement." _�_,.� ,�%``� � , � ��'1 �'1 PLANPdIP1G C�1��TSSIbT1 T•�ZPETII�.TG - FT��PRUARY 8, 1978 Pa�� 5 Mr. �ergman referred to the item discussed on Page 8 of the minutes, Re.cycling Project Committee Report. He explained the ti��orkings of a Re�yclin� Collection Center �.n St. Anthonye Ae said that it ti•rould b� ti�rorth�Jhile for sor�eone from the Environmental G�uality Commission to do an observa'�ion on that Center. MrQ Langenfeld said that the suggestion �vould be pa.ssed. along to iche Commission. Chairperson Harris quoted the statement that necessity �vas the mother of invention, and he felt that eventually the people wou3d cliscover ���ays of turning trash���.rt�age into energy pr�ducerse He pointed out that there ti�ras pre�sently a city in Iov�a that ti��as � using �rash for energy by recycling the trash. He said tha�t at that point in time the dollar costs vJere breaking even. He said that they vrere burning the irash/garbage ior energy9 recovering the aluminum and steel from the cans, rECOVering the bottles, etc., and the operai;ion of the plant tiJas breaking even, or not costing a�ything. He felt that that ��ray made more sense than dumping the trash/garbage into the ground from tivhere it yaould eventually pollute the ground vrater systems and suche Mr. Bergman gave his concurrence and support to tivhatever the Environmental Quality Commission �vas doitlg 'in the area of recycling. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING �.YE, the motion carried unanimously. The minutes v�rere received at 8:32 P.M. 'je RECEI�IE APP�f1LS CONNiIISSI�IV NIINUTES: J1�NUARY 2C�., 1978 MOTION by Ms. Schnabel� seconded by Mse Shea, that the Planning Commission receive the Appeals Commission minutes of January 21�9 1978. A�s, Shea commended I+qs. Schnabel on the diplomacy she demonst�ated at a most difficult mee-ting. Chairperson Harris asked if the City Council had acted upon the issue of 1�0 foot lots. Ms. Schnabel said that it ��aould appear before City Council February 27, 1978. Ms, Schnabel said that one of her major concerns regarding the request by Mr, Gordon Hedlund tivas that as soon as it was approved to build on the 40 foot lots, the value of the lots tivould go immediately from 9�800 to approximately �5,600 or $�6�000. She said that the buyer �vould get no f0break" because of the lot size and Mr. Hedlund would receive the entire profit, She said that the estimated, builc�able value of the land ti�ras �vhat made the price of the house so hi�h� � PLANNSNG COP�IMISSION MEETIPJG - FEIIRUAPY 8, 197$ Pa�;e 6 �� Chairperson Harris asked �vhat Mr. Iiedlund� s next step might bee �� . � Ms. Schnabel said that P�Ir. Hedlund had indicated that he would take the matter to Court if the requests tiveren�t approved, Mra Boardman said that the exhibits that accompanied the requests tvere very complete for the main purpo�e that it could end up as a Court case. Ms. Schnabel said that the Appeals Commission had excellent Staff input regarding the requests. She said that Ron Holden� the Staff person� had been most supportive on the matter, �0 I'OOT LOTS ' Ms. Schnabel said that b��hen City Council decided to iurn-over the many lots to the County9 their intention had been that -the tax-forfeited lots Urould make nice additions to the existing land o�vners on either side of the 40 foot lot or the adjacent land owner in the case of a corner lot. City Council had indicated that the lots tivere unbuilda_ble lots. She said that when the County advertised the lots in the paper the County put a notice at the top ihat said, "Check �vith your local City for building restric'cions on the lots.�� Ms. Schnabel said that i�Ir. Hedlund claimed that he callec� /� the City of Fridley and had b�en told that there cvould be some problems tivith the lots. He claimed that he �vas never told specifically that the lots tirere unbuildable. She said that he also claimed that the County did not announce that the lots were unbuildable at the time of the auction. Ms. Schnabel said that there �vere some discrepancies in Mr. Hedlund�s statements. She felt that Mr. Hedlund �vas trying to build a case through th� minutes that he had not been told in advance that the lots were unbuildable. Ms. Schnabel said that the minutes of the previous meeting that �vas held on December 13, 19?7, he had been specifically asked if he uras aware that the lots were unbuildable and he had stated in those minutes that he was aware of that fact at the time he bid on the lots. Ms. Schnabel said that Mr. Hedlund. vaas again speci.fically asked at the January 24, 1978, Appeals Commission minutes if he was a��aare that the lots ti��ere unbuildable lots, and P4r. Hedlund again stated that he bvas ativare that the lots tirere unbuildable. Chairperson �iarris a.sked hotiv the City of Fridley could justify not allovring construction on !�0 foot lots tivhen Minneapolis, St. Paul, North St. Paul, Columbia Heights, and Robbinsdale did allo�v building on 40 foot lots. r"1 h`''�� ( � I I +_�'� I ? `1 YI,I�NNINC, COMMTSSI�N MrTTIrIG - FEBRiJI�RY 8� 1��8 Pa�e 7 Ms. Schnabel said that Communities set �heir own standards. ahe said that tlie City of Fridley chose the.standard lot size as 75 foot. She referenced Pa�e 10, third paragraph. Chairperson Harris said that another problem that the City of Fridley woulc3. be faced with was the fact that plats had been accPpted with 40 foot lots, . ' Ms. Schnabel said at the time Fridley became a City and started to be developed that the people in Government at that time determined that they did not ti�tant 2� f'oot or 40 foot lots, they vTanted a minimum of 7,5 foot lots, She said that it was a suburban area and that �vas hoti�� they wanted it developed, Mr. Ber•gman tivanted to kno�v if th.a�; decision could have been arbitrary and capricious. He felt fairly certain it tivasn't capriciouse He fe�t it was only arbitrary in the same context as every city�s ordinances are arbitrary, He said that even though it may have been an arbitrary decision, it ti��as written into the lati�r. He said it tivould be that reason �hat a person L�ould not be able to build on a 1�0 foot lat, Mso Schnabel said that in 1911, tivhen the plat was accepted �`1 �vithnoka County, a different set of facts tivere being dealt She suid that the facts lvere dealing with a communiiS• that tivas only a small percent developed versus the fact that novr the City oi Fridley v�as 90e.+ c�eveloped. � � Mr, Peterson said that it bvas a dynamic fact of lavr9 that lativ changes. He said ihat even though the County accepted the �lat in 1911, the la�v has changed and the per�on that purchased the lots had been inf.ormed of the changes in thE lativs, Chairperson Fiarris said that perhaps those 40 foot lots, if they were not a viable piece of property for development� should not have been soldo He said they should.have been held for open space, public land, or vrhateverm Ms. Schnabel felt the City made a mistake ever putting those 40 foot lots up for sale. T�Zr. Bergman felt that whether the lo � tvas buildable or unbaildable or �:�hether Mr. Hedlund had been informed that it ivas unbuildable �vere actually immaterial to the actual issue. He said that there tiaere City Ordinances that stated the required setbacl�s on lots and the minimum square footage required on lotso He said that a citizen of Fridley could try to obtain variances from the City Codes and if those variznc�s lvere �ranted, then the person could build on any lat regardless of the size. He �said that the fact vras that the person did not always get the variances that were requested, PLANNING COMMISSION MrETING - FEBRUAKY 8, 197$ Pa�e 8 - Ms. Schnabel said that she felt that the Commission had =� � actually been dealing with tvao se�arate requests; ��he � 1 first v�as whether �uil�ing should be �ermitted on a sub- � � standard 1ot, and the other tivas whether any variances crould be granted. Chairperson Harris said that there was a general policy that the City of Fridley did not issue building permi�ts ..-- on 40 foot lots, Mr. Boardman said that the City Code indicated that the building site had to contain 7,500 square feet and be 50 feet vride on lots platt�d before �955. He said that anything Platted after 1955 had to contain 7,500 saure feet and be 60 feet 1ri�.e. HYDF PARK Ms. Schnabel said that there tivere many 40 foot lots in the Hyde P ark area that had single family homes on the lots. If some disaster occurs and the ov,mer of the dwelling loses over 50% of the house� she wanted to kno�v if they could rebuild on that particular lot. She said it ti�aas a hypothetical question based on the fact that the area vaas rezoned back to R-1. Chairperson Harris said that the Hyde Park area would � have to be a SPecial Zoning district that �vould a11o6v commercial and R-1 mixed that existed there. He said that �vhen the Guidelines were tivritten up, the lot sizes could be handled at that tir�e. Mr. Boardman said that three meetings had been held tivith the Hyde Park neighbcrhood committee. He said that the types of regula�ions v�aanted for the area had been decided upon. He said they ��ranted single family zoned district9 bui; would allow the rebuilding of any existing structures, such as multiple-d��ellings, etc. should those buildings be over 50/ destroyed. He said that they desired the minimum lot size of 60 feet. The nei�hborhood committ�e felt it would be to the benefit to the neighborhood to ge� rid of the 40 foot lots and require 60 foot lots� Air. Boardman said thaL the general feelirig of the people in the Hyde Park area e�as that they didn't �rant� to put a burden on anyone that already lived in the area, they didn�t want the spread oi multiple-dv�ellings into the area, they didn't t�rant the spread of commercial into the area, they �vant to keep the single-family character and they feel that a required 60 foot lot rras a good size lot ior the ch��racter of the area. � . � PLATdT1ING C,OP�IMIS�ION Mr1�TING - I'EPRT1�lRY 8, 197$ Pa�ze 9 UPOP1 A VOICr VUTE, all votin� aye, the mation carried � unanimously. The January 24.9 1978 Ap�eals Commission minutes ���ere receivea at 9:06 P.M. MCTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mrs Langenfeld, �;hat City.Gouncil revierr the list of any eyisting, tax-forfeited, 40 foat lots that have not been sold through public auction and that City place a hold on the sale of those properties. Upon a voice vote� all v�ting aye� the motion carried unanimously. Chairperson Harris declared a break at 9;11� p,M, 4. CONTINUED: PARKS & OPLN SPACE PL�.N Mra Boardman indicated that once the Planning Commission completed discussing the P arks & Open Space Plan, Staff �tould do a i e-ti�rrite of the Plan, clarifying items that needed it and solving any problems that came up regarding the Plano He said that at that point in time the P ark.s and Open Space Plan �vould be braughi� back to the Commissions to get their approval, and then a Public Hearing �r�uld be held on the Plan� Chairperson Harris felt that at the time the Plan came before the Pl�nning Commissicn tirould be the point in time tl��at � R�r. Cliarles Boudreau ahould be asked for his opinion of the Plane � Mr, Boardman said that he 1Frould arrange for Mr. Boudreau to appear t�efore the Planning Commission at the same time as the Parks & Open Spac�e Plan �rould be handled by the Commission. P4r. Boardman said that the process of the Parks & 0 en Space Plan after the re-Urrite r�oulcl be to send a copy to �he Chamber of Commerce, other Civic organizations� an,d all the Commission� for their second revievr on the Plan so that.any additional comments/correctio ns could be made before the Public Hearinga Mr, Bergman Gouldn't understand tivhy the Plan would have to be sent to all the Commissions for their second revietiv. He felt that the process tivould be a bit bulky. Mr. Boardman said that the re-r�rite �aould be sent to the other Cornmissions mainly for informai;ional purposes. He said that they ���ould not have to act on the Flan. It tiA�as decided by the Planning Commission that Recommendation 1 at the bottom of Pa�e 27 of the P arks and Open Space Plan �ti�as acceptable as written. Nir. Peterson said that Recommendation ;',�-z at the top af Pa�e 27 ���as n�t acceptable. IIe saic�, th�t he completely ��reed tvith � �etting nei�hborhood feedback and to make the parks as closely � akin to t��hat the neighborhoods tiErant; but he said there was also the overall City Program and sometimes the only people a��rare of th��zt Pro�r�m are the Commi�sion and the Di.rector. PLl�NNIPdG COMMISSION MEETING - FL'�iRU�RY 8 1 8 . pa e 10 Mr. Boardman su�gested that Recommendation #2 at the top of Page 27 � be reivritteri, ��2. Desi�n nei�hborhood park facilities in � cooperation vrith residents so as to more closely meet neighborhood recreation needs��� The members of the Planning Commission v�ere in agreement. It was aecided by the Planning Commission that Recommendation 2 at--the bottom of Page 27 of the Parks and Open Space Plan vaas acceptable as u�rri�tten. It was decided by the Planning Commission that Siaff should re�vrite Recommendations 3& 4 at the bottom of P age 27. It ��ras su�gested that the t�vo recommendations be combined into one recommendation. Mr. Bergman su�gested the �rrording to be' "Lstablish a program evaluation process, by i�rhich staff and program personnel define program strengths and ti�reaknesses on a coniinuing basis consider�ng the natural and man-made resources . available�" Mro Boardman saic� that he vaould do some tiRrork on the recommendation. It tixras decided by the Planning Commission 'chat Recommendation 5 at the top of Page Z8 of the P arks and Open Space Plan vaas acceptable as ti•rritten. Recommendation 6 on P age Z8 tivas discussed by the Planning Commission, ^ Ms. Schnabel tvanted to knovr vrhy the City should provide a Program for the School Systemo She tivanted to know if the schools had an instructor on their sta�Ff that tivas a Na�tural History person that could develop a prograffi. Mr. Peterson said that the precedent vras such that that was tivhat ti�ras happening in the cities. The City cras developing programs describing the ecology of natural history areas in the Citye He explained that actually the school systems ��aould have no jurisdiction to go onto the City property to develop the nature trails, etc., tiirhich the City does and allo��rs everybody to use �hemo �Is. Schnabel agreed that someone should develop the Programs, but felt that it rras more in the field of Lducation than it ti7ras in the field of City Administration. Mr. Boardman said that the Program that �vould be developed by the C�ty �vould be used by the schools as ti�ell as the residents of Fridley. He said there �s�as no sense setting up a program that could just be used by the residents and exclude the schools from the program or vice-vers��, rie �aid that if the City of F'ridley cras to have a Naturalist � and ti•rould develop a Naturalist Program, then it might as �vell be opened up to the schools too. PLI�TdI�ITdG C�T�fP�IS ;I�N T�TT;TING � F�. Rt11iRY 8,� Pa.�;e 1 1 It �Jas decided by the Planning Commission that Recommendations n 6& 7 on Pa�� 2II of the ParkU and Open Sp�_ce Plan tirere acceptable as rrritten, Mr. Boardman su��ested a rewriting of Recommendation $ on Page 28. He said that the main intensive use recreational area bein� looked at vaas Commons P.ark and he said they �vere running"out of room at Commons Park. He said that Commons Park �vas initially seic aside as a neighborhaod facility to serve the neighborhood around th� park. He said that Fridley didn't have the City-tivide recreation �paces so Commons Park tivas 'taken over because it tivas centrally locatedo He said that a serious look h.ad to be taken at the city-c�icie recreation activities as to ti�Jhere they can be placedo He said that much more room vras needed for that type of recreation. He said that other neighborhood parks ti�rere bein� utilized for city-�=ride recreational acicivities. He said tivhat should really be looked at �vas the feasibility of obtaining more land or redeveloping th� land available for high intensive recreation a��iv�.ty areas. The Planning Comrnission agreed.vJith Mr. Boardman�s suggestion, It �vas decided by the Planning Commission that Policies under Objective 5 on Page Z8 of the Parks and Open Space Plan sh�uid be rer�ritten to� ^ la Promote regional, caunty, city areas of park and _ open space interesto 2. Promate �reservation of remaining signi�icant natural habitats. 3. Acceptable as vrritteno 4o Mr, Peterson said that the statement did not belong in the particular areao He sug�ested handling the item in a separate areao Ms. Schnabel suggested an entire netiv section entitled �'Critical Areas��. Mr. Boardman said that he would set-up a neti�r section to be included in the Parks and Open Space Plan and include all the items relating to a Critical Area in the City of Fridley. The Planning Commission discussed Recommendation 1 at the bottom of Page 28. A�ir. Peterson said he int�rpreted the statement to read that it tivas important �Lhat conservation of natural resources be one of the primary thrusts of the Parks and Open.Space System anct conUervation r,ithin urban are�zs renuires �'1 mana�ement and interpretation. � � � PLANNING COPfi`�IISSION ML;ETING - FEL'RUARY 8, 1978 Pa�e 12 Mre Peterson suggested that Recommendation 1 at the bottom of Pa�e Z8 be re�vritten to f 1. Conservation of natural resources should be one of the primary thrusts of the Parks and Recreation Open Space System. The other members of the Planning Commission riere in agreement tiT�ith Mr. Peterson's suggestion. It ���as decided by the Planning Commission that�Recommendation 2 at the bottom of Page 28 be completely eliminated. It 1ras decided by the Planr�ing Conu:�ission that Recommendation 3 at the top of Page 29 ��aould be inserted in the nevr section entitled "Critical Areas'�. The members of the Planning Commission asked that Mr. Boardman have Recommendatior� 4 revrritten, They felt that the statement tiras necessary9 but didn't like -the vray it lras urorded. It tivas decided by the Planning Commission that Recommendations 5, 7 and 8 be eliminated. Mr. Langenfeld suggested that Recommendation 6 on P age 29 of the Parks and Open Space Plan be retivritten �;o: 6, Natural history areas should be maintair�ed for passive activities inclucling nature hikes and tours administered by the City Naturalist, The other members of the Planning Commission ti�rere in agreement tai�li Mr. Langenfeld� s suggestion. It tivas decided by the Planning Commission that Recommendation q on Page 2g be inserted in tlie neti�� section entitled "Critical Areas". It was decided by the Planning Commission that Recommendation 10 tvas redundant to RECOmmendation 6 and should be eliminated. Mse Schnabel indicated that Objective 6��as to be added. She said it was entitled, "r�aintain�and/or Establish Professional Staff". She said that it had been d.ecided previously that items that dealic mainly ti�rith Staff ��rould be put in a separate section. I�gs. Schnabel said that t��ro items that appeared on Page 18 of the Parlcs and Open Space Plan tivere to be included in the separate section. . Permanent�parks and recreation staff requirements need to be evaluated. � r"'1 . There is a need for parks and recreation department ^ policy �uicielines. PLArtP�ING COM]�qISSION P�IrrTIP1G - FEI3RUARY 8, 1978 Pa�e 1� Mr. Boardman said that Staff tivou].d re�=rrite the goals and � objectives to include an Objective 6 that tivould deal mainly c�ith Staif. Mr. i�angenfeld said tha� the Environmental t�uality Commission had suggested a Recommendation 11 under Objective 5; � 11. Fertilizers and other related material levels ..-- �vould be limited in the City tiva�ervrays. Mr. Boardman suggested that the item be retvorded to, "Encourage the reduction of pollutants in the streams and rivers which are utilized for recreational activities'�. He then said that the item ti�ould be included in the "Critical Areas�� section of the Farks and Open Space Plano Mr. Eoardman explained the rest of the sections of the Parks and Open Space Plans He said i�iey vrould be a color coded map of the proposer� park system. Mr. Boardr�an explained that the Parks and Open Space Plan tivould be re-ti�rritten and then returned to the Commission for approval. He said that they had much direction from the Commission as �o vahat exactly ti�ras c�anted. He felt that the Plan �irould be read�r for approval after the re-ti�rriting. OTH�R PUSINESS ^ - Chairperson �Iarz•is said that at the City Council �"Jorkshop meeting held on January 30� 1�7$, the Housing P�Iaintenance Code lvas reviei�redo Iie said that for the most part, City Council agreed tiaith the Cocle. P�iayor Nee had indieatec� that the Housing Maintenance Code tiaras clear enough that even he could understand it this time. �ner�.y Commission _ ..�.�.. Chairperson Harris said that the Planning Commission ydould discuss the Energy Commission such as setting up the policy. Mr. Harris �vanted to knov� vahat the Planning Commission �v�nnted to do tivith the item. A�r. Boardman said that the main thing that ���as brought out at the City Council meeting v�as that they �vanted to develop an �nergy Comr�ission ��ith the scope of Energy� He said that it ti�ras decided tha� the term "energy�� tvas so broad that gui�,e- ].ines »ere needecl. City Council said that the Planning Commission tivas to set up the guidelines ana the policy and either set up a Commission to handle the subject or else �et up a project committeeo � PLANNING COMMISSION ME�TING - FEIiRU�RY 8, 197$ Pa�e 14 � Mr. Langenield su�gested that each chairperson of the Planning Commission elect one person from their�respective commissions to be a me�ber of the Project Committee. Mr. Peterson said that he liked the idea of �he separate Project Committee under the Planning Commission. He said the only problem tivould be that the Project Committee tivould have to have adequate staff to support the Committee. Chairperson established to the City of having a Committeeo Harris said that if a Project Committee vras to be under the Plannin��Commission that they would go Council to get their approval for the expenditures Staff person to support the efforts of the Project Mr. Bergman said that the first thing the City should do before setting up a Committee �vould be to establish Energy Conservation Guidelines and Programs for the Ci'ty itself and to follotiv through with the guic�elines and recommendations. He felt that the City should do more than just set up a Committeeo He said the City should ��set an example�' actively and with some publication. Mr. Bergman said that governments are too quick to advise everybody else on hotiv to save energy when they themselves are doing a lot less than what t'hey are requesting of private residents and businesses, Chairperson Harris said ihat it �vas to be up to the Planning Cammission to produce a.Policy, stating the goals and exactly what the City wanted to accomplish. Chairperson iiarris said tha.t there were many areas of the City Codes that the Energy situation should be addressed to. Also, said that it should be recommended to City Council that the legislators be told what direction the City of Fridley wanted go on the Energy issue. he to Mr, Boardman said thai if a Project Committee vras to be set up, that the direction of that Committee tivould be more of looking int� the problems that are presently being faced� rather than necessarily developing a policy on it. He felt that once the problems ��ere recognized the Committee could then establish the policy to handle the problems. Aqr. Peterson said that the Energy Commission discussion should be put on the agenda�of a future meeting and in the meantime the members of the Planning Commission could give much thought to the item. � � � �: PI�ANNING COMMISSION MEETING - FLBRUARY 8, 1978 Pa�;e 15 7�Pd�T1G C�l�?; '� Chairperson Harris said that h.e had attended a. meetin� that evenin� at 5:30 P,M, (02/08/78) tidith the President of the Chamber of Commerce, Dick Sobiech, and. himself in attendancem He said that they discussed the Zoning Code in relationship to Commercial & Industrialo fIe said that on February 9, 1978 the Chamber of Commerce 4rould be discussing the progress on the Zoning Code. He said the Chamber of Commerce c�ranted to be able to revietia the final results.of the Zoning Code before it went for final approval. Revitalization of "Downtovrn" Fridley Mr. Boardman said that a�L the January 30, 1978, City Council bVorkshop meeting Staff was given the go ahead to tivork tivith the busi_nesses in the area and look into the potential for revitalizing the center city of Fridleye Chairperson Harris said that the City would act as a catalyst in promoting an orderly revitalization. He said that ti��hen a business decided to restore its facilities, City tvould coordinate the effort so that it tivould be done according �o a"master plan'�. ADJOURNPZENT M�TION by T•is. Shea, seconded by Mr. Peterson� to adjourn the n February 8, �978, Planning Commission meeting. Upon a voice - vote, all voting aye� Chairttian Harris declared the P1:anning Commission meeting adjourned at 11:0,5 p�P�Ie �'1 Respectfully submitted, Mary ee Carhill Recording Secretary _ --,.....