PL 08/08/1979 - 6659City of Fridley
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 8, 1979
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: JULY 25, 1979
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USE PEWMIT SP #79-09 FRIDLEY UN1I:tU MtIHUU1Jl GF1UKl:H:
Per Section 205.051, 3, F, to allox the church to have a �
day care center, located on Lots 1-3, and Lots 22-25, Block 2, �"• ��� :
Christie's Addition, the same being 666 Mississipoi Street •
N.E.
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USt PtKf'lll, JP �i/`l-10, tXl.NL16UK F1UMt�, 1N1..: Y2r JQCLIOTI
205.157, 5, D, to allow the construction of two new dwellings
on Lots 27-30, Block S, Riverview Heights, fn CPR-2 zoning,
(flood plain),, the same being 8125 and 8137 Riverview
Terrace N.E.
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3. REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT, L.S. #79-03, BY.JOHN & GAIL ESTLING: 2P _ P4
Split off the Westerly 20 feet of Lot 1, Block 1, Veit's
Addition (6440 Riaerview Terrace N.E.) and�:add it to Lot 2, ;%l� � Oj
Block 2, Veit's Addition (6438 Riverview Terrace N.E.).
4• CONTINUED: SAV #7�-03 �CI7N OF FRIDLEY & CONSIDERATION OF SEPARATE
5. CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARIP�G O�d COMPREHENSIVE � PLAN:
6: CONTINUED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZONING
7. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSIOP� MINUTES: JULY 17
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9. RECEIVE ENERGY PROJECT C�TJPJITTEE P1EETiNG: JULY 24 '-
These minutes are final recortanendations from this C
10. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 31; 1974
11. CONTINUED: DISCUSSIOPJ ON CONVERSION OF RENTAL PROPE
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Commission to study.
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CITY OF FP.IDL�Y
PLA1vNING COP�u�1ISSION f�iEiTING - NLY 2�, 1979
CALL TO ORDi�R:
Chairman Harris called the July 25, 1979. meeting of the Ylannin�
Commission to order at 7+30 P•M•
ROLL CALLi
I�lembers Presents D�Is. Hughes, t�r. Oquist, 1�1s. 5chnabel, Pur. Harris,
I�'Ir. Treuenfels, i+.r. Hora (substitute for
P�r. Langenfeld)
T.�Zembers Absents I�Zr. Langen£eld
Others Presento Bill Deblon,, Associate Planner
Jerrold Boardrnan, City Planner
APPROVr PLANI1Ii3G COrV1idISSION ?+;INUTES: JulV 11, 1979�
D4s. Schnabel stated that on page 14, ef the minutes, it should be
corrected to reads
2300 new construction units
- 460 new subsidized units
- 480 new unsubsidized units (modest cost)
13�0 new units (market rate)
Ilis. Hughes stated that the only problem with this correct9_on was
that the figure oi 1840 unsubsidized units being deleted, would
� make the people have to do their own arithmetic with the �'igures.
NTr. Boardman suggested that the figure of 1840 could remain with-
out a'�arket rate' behind the figure.
Ms. Sehnabel agreed to this change, so that the corrected figures
should read:
2300 new construction units
- 460 ne�v subsidized units
1 0 new unsubsidized units
- 480 new unsubsidized units (modest cost)
1�0 new units (market rate)
P�;OTION was made by Nis. Schnabel, seconded by i�'ir. Oquist, to approve
the corrected July 11, 1979 minutes.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIPi�TAN HARRIS DECLARrD THE
t+10TI0N CARRI :D UNANIDiOUSI,Y.
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PLANNING CGI+;DTISSIOTJ 69EETING July 25� 1979 _ Pat;e 2 _
Pr10TZON by GTr. Oquist, seconded by i+ts. Hughes, to open the Public
Hearing.
UPaN A VOIC : VOTi, ALL VOlING AYE, CHAIRi�IAN HARRIS DECLARI;D THC
PUBLIC H�.AKING OPEN AT 7 s 35 P.I�t.
D7r. Boardnan stated tha't the pages r�17-20 oi the agenda, did not
really show anything in the plat plan, so he then showed the
Commission members his copy. He stated that thi� is located on
Riverview Terrace, and Ulencoe, on an 85 - foot lot on which
they requested to construct a dwelling. . He further stated
that in this type of a situation, the City requests ihat the architect
to come in and show the City where all the drainage lines are
going to go,and_, hov✓ it is going to drain out from the property
lirie. He stated that accordino to the layout, the draina.ge plan
�vorks well. He stated tnat there is a slight problem on the one
aide in the steepness of i;he slope. He stated that it is about
a one-to-one slope. He stated that they c,ay �vant them to do
somethin� about that such as a retaining wall o`-s�.«e kind; _othex-
wise, he stated, everything seemed to ��rork well in the layout.
He further stated that the sewer, and water are in, and that all
the drainage does go out to the street.
T,4r. Harris questioned if this was a corner lot?
n1r. Boardnan stated that yes it was a corner lot.
Dfs. Schnabel questioned as to �vhat was going to happen with the
elevation o£ this lot?
I�Zr. Boardman stated that they could get a general idea from the
cross-section that he had.
Nis. Schnabel questioned if it would have to be built up?
b1r. Boardman stated that all of the shaded area of the cross-
sectior. vras built up.
T+ir. Harris questioned if this would have any detrimental effect`
on the surroundin� property?
NSr. Boardman stated that to their estimation, no it would not.
DZr. Harris questioned as to which way does it drai.n after it
goes to the street?
DTr. Boardman stated that it all moves toward the river, and that
there are catch basins at the ends of the street.
Mr. Harris questioned as to how they handled the curbs at the
swale line?
P+1r. Boardman stated that the top of the curbed elevation is lower
than the swale line.
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EQr. Harris then questioned as to how they planned to handle the
swale line in the backyard. He stated that there did not appear
to be much pitch.
Mr. Boardman, and t�1r. Harris then discussed the gradiant line.
Nr. Boardman stated that this was sicnilar to a previous request,
in that it did not have much room for error.
P�1r. Harris questioned as to how, and whom, checks this after it
is done? He stated that it bothers him, as to how it is verified,
that it is actually built this way?
t+;r. Boardman stated, that it was his view that it was the buildin;
insnector's responsibility to Make sure that the construction was
built accordin� to the specified plans, and layout. Also, he
stated, that they do have a verification survey, and if they need
to, the City can require that they verify those elevations.
P+?r. Harris stated, that he felt that to have the elevation
verified, was sonething that the City should require be done,
for the homeo�mers benefit, as well as for the Ci.ty, and the
surrounding neighbors.
Ms. Schnabel questioned if this verification would not have to
be done, when the blocks were put in?
DSr. Harris stated that no, it would have to be done when they
do the grading.
I��s. Schnabel questioned if that wauldn't be too late?
�Tr. Harris stated that no, it wouldn't be, because the critical
points weren't up a.gainst the house, but rather in the swales
and the water�vays that they are putting in.
N,s. Schnabel stated that she underatood that the intent, was to
keep the house above a certain level also:
N1r. Harris stated that yes it was, but that there was no problem
with the house, but that his concern was with the drainage,
because they are so tight on the elevations, that there is no
room for error.
D1r. Oquist questioned if the elevation of the house brought it
up out of the flood plain?
n1r. Boardma~� stated that yes it did.
ItTr. Harris questioned if the petitioner was in the audience?
Mr. Donald Pertinen of 1611 Highway 10, Diinneapolis, came forth,
and stated that the petitioner vras not present, but that he
was representing him.
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Nr. Pertinen stated that he had a few comments, as far as the
draina�;e was concerned. He stated that they realized, that they
u�ere ti�ht on �rades, but that the only way to gei; more swale,
was to build up on the property lines, and he said that would
create a problem for the center buildin�, iie further stated that
even though it was a minirnal slope, he felt that it wouldn't
change the ex.isting draina�e at all.
P'ir. IIoardrnan stated that he would recommend that the Commission
members recomrnend, that to eliMinate the steep slope, they
should have them put in some sort of retaining r�all.
Iti;r. Pertinen stated, that if he had a choice, he would like to
see a recocnmendation to proceed as proposed, with �he stipulation,
that if it did in fact become a problem, that they would at that
tiMe correct it.
P+ir. Boardr�an stated that he lm ew that a one-to-one slope grade
vras steep, so he suggeste@ �hat as an alternative, they could
shift the garage so that it is set back 17 1/2 feet.
PQr. Pertinen stated that would create a problem with some of
the bedroon windovrs.
Chairr:lan Harris questioned if anyone had anymore questions o£
the petitioner's representative, or if there was anyone else, in
the audience, that would want to speak on this item?
D'Is. Schnabel stated that the Commission had in the last month
or so, conversation as to the possibility of declaring a
moratorium on building in the flood plains area. She questioned
as to if there vras any updated inforrnation on that?
Dir. Harris stated that no, he had no further information on it.
Pr'ir. Doardman stated that the City Council, had referred it back
to the Planning Commission.
P�,s. Schnabel questioned P,Ir. Boardman, as to if he had heard
from any of the neighbors on this item7
Yv1r. Boardman stated that no, he had not.
Itls. Hughes stated that this seemed to have fewer problems than
the last request the Commission had seen.
Ivir. Harris stated that he �aas nore comfortable with this request
than the previous one also.
P-:OTION by P�;s. Hughes, seconded by P�ir. Oquist, to close the Public
Hearinb.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYr�, CHAIRitiIAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
P'JBLIC HE�'1RING CLOS� AT 7�55 P•1�7�
PLANNING COI�I';u1ISSI0N Pc;:sSi'ING �uly C�, �(Y r��� �
Ms. Hughes que�tioned as to how much a verification survey cost?
lr1r. Harri� stated that now the City requires a verification of
location, so that the City would then just add a verification
of elevation.
t�9s. Hughes questioned as to approximately how Many more points
this verification vrould add up to?
ivlr. Harris stated that he suspected �that it wouldn't be an
awful lot.
P�Zr. Oquist stated that vrhat bothers him, is who mal�es the
decision that at what point in time is there a problem. He
stated that he felt that a retaining wall should be put in when
the final grading is done.
Dluch discussion ensued as to at
determine that a problem er,isted,
require a retainment put in.
what point and who would
and how the City could then
t190TI0N was rnade by I',9s. Hughes, seconded by P;Ir. Oquist, to recommend
to Council approval of the kequest for a Special Use Permit,
S� ,'�79-07, by �obert H. Helter�es� Per Section 205.1$7, S,D, to
al].ow construction oi a new dvielling in CPR-2 zoning (flood plain)
on Lots 30, 31 and 32, Block T, Riverview Heights, the same
being 806$ Riverview Terrace i9.E. with the following stipulations:
1.) they veri?y the grade, vrhile doing the verification of the
si�Ce. 2.) they have a retaining wall on the south-side put in.
tiPON A VOICE VOTE, �1LL VOTING AYE, CHSIR'tQAl`d HARRIS DECLARED THE
�OTIOiV CARRI',;D UiVANli.iOUSLY.
iv1r. Harris informed the petitioners representative, that this
would go to Council on August 6, 1979• He stated that there
would not be a Public Hearing required, so that the Council
could act upon it at that time.
Ni0TI0N by Prir. Truenfels, seconded by Iv:s. Schnabel, to move
it�e �5 0£ the agenda 'Continued� Central Center for Fatnily
Resources',to the next item on the az;enda,
UPON A VOICE VOTr„ ALL VOTING AY�, CHAIRi�IaN HARRIS DECLARr.D THE
ID.OTION CARRI� UNe�NIPdOUSLY.
,�, CONTIi`Nr.D: C;.NTR.AT, C�NT�,�i FOR FA[�9ILY RESOURCES
Dir. Truenfels stated that the Planning Coir.r.iission had asked the
Human Resources Comriission to look into this matter, in particular
re5pect to the question of �vhether there are any agencies in the
Fridley area, which to some extent offer services, which would
constitute an overlap, or duplication of the services that are
PLANPIING COt,I!,4I^aSIOT'1 I.�I:ETING Jul.y 25� 19�_ Page 6
proposed to be offered by the Central Center for Pamily Resources,
in Spring Lake Park. P,9r. Truenfels stated that they have a
written summary of their findin�s, and a report vrritten by one
of the CommiGSinn members. (5ee Attachment) L;r. 'iruenfelG then
hande$ to the P}anning Commission mer,!bers copies of the summary
and the report. He i'urther stated that the Cornmission had
used the Pridley Community Services booklet as his resource guide.
R�IOiION by i:is. Hughes, seconded by i.lr. Oquist, to receive and Ye�{'er
reczv�e�d to Council, the items prepared by the Human Resources
Commission on the Central Center for b�amily �tesources. (Attached)
UPON A V6IC:. VOTE, ALL VOTING AYi3, CH/�Ii2P�TAN HARRI5 D�CLAr.Ell TH'�
1b10TTON CARRIEll UNAPtI�:40USLY.
I;ir. Truenfels then read from the summary, and stated to the
Commission vhat the ite�s are that the Central Center
proposed as their services. He further stated that considering
items ;�1 and ;�2, there appeared to be no overlap. Iie stated that
for item ;�4, ior preschool children, there seemed to be an
overlap in the c�ridley program of Koping with Kids - Kradle
n ��
thru Kinder�arten" (KKKFi). He further stated that item ��j
Family Counseling, and item n59 Family Counselor, shov�ed some
overlap, in that there was counseling services in rridley
thru I,utheran Social Services at St. Phillip's Church, and with
the r^ridley i,iethodist Church. He stated that froM what the
Commission was able to determine thou�h, was that this was
more or less limited to the congregations of these churches.
P+Yr. Truenfels stated that at the tic�e the report was written
there was not a clear understanding as to what the role of the
Central Center, in the Probation Officer area v✓ould be. He
stated that he had since been inforned by Bis. Carlson that they
would have space made available for a Probation Officer, if
need be. He further stated that concerning the Red Cross,
there was an unit located in Coon Rapids. He went on to say
that cancerning Battered :�omen, there was an apparent overlap
with the Anoka County Task Force for Battered ulomen (ACT).
ivTs. Lee Carlson of 7937 5th Street N.L., Spring Lake Park,
interjected that this was one and the same, in that ACT, is
using their office space at this time.
t+lr. Truenfels stated that he understood that the Central Center
was planning on making some teenage counseling available in the
future. P.r. Truenfels then went on to read his view, in the
last paragraph of the Hur�an Resources Commission sum�rnary.
D4s. Carlson stated that they are now in the process of inter-
viewin� candidates applications for a halftine counselor. She
further stated that the two candidates that they are interviewing,
both have the credentials for teen communications groups, which
is a definite consideration. She further stated that she has
been in contact with R!s. Wagner, who is involved with the Teen
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Parents communications, in Anoka County, and who has been working
with P-fs. Carlson, in getting a facilitator, under a grant from
the Onan Corporation.
D7�. Hu�;hes questioned ivlr. Truenfels, as to if he knew how often
the ItY.KK met?
Mr. Trueni'els stated that he did not know, but that he believed
the rridley Conuaunity �ducation booklet would tell them.
P6s. Hughes stated that as it is an ofierin� thru the Conmunity
Education, she assurned that if not enough people signed up £or
the course, they woul.d then not hold it.
l'�is, Hughes stated that from what she had read from the Humaxi
Resources Commission minutes, and fror;, their summary, she felt
that there did not appear to be riuch overlap of services. She
further stated that since the Central Centers main emphasis
is on prevention, rnore than on crises, she didn't think she
would want to change her mind in terns of the need and desir-
ability of this kind of a program.
Istr. Harris questioned if the people fron the Central Center,
would recap their progr� for him?
P�ir. Dean Sabby 14�1 104th 9venue N.`rd. , Coon Rapids stated that
par.ent education is their main er.�phasis and family counseling.
He stated that from the groups, and people that tl:ey h?d tal.ked
with, that tivilat ivas most tivanted, ;vas an in-depth far;ily counseling
service. Also, he �tated, they ���anted to emphas?ze prevention.
He further stated that the sbhool districts vrould be sending
people to tneM. He stat�d that it was his view that the school
district vrould love to have another reierral source, other than
North Suburban to refer people to. He further stated that they
have gotten fundinU froi� the Onan Corporation for a Jean Parks
parentin� prograzn, and they are nolv training facilitators, so that
could be an ongoin; program. He stated that they wanted to
provide services ?or the three co,manunities of Fridley, Blaine,
and Spring Lake Park. He further stated that if it is a teen-
counseling center that the communities want, they have an
advisory board, that would give them that sort of advice. He
also stated, that the Anoka County Task Force, is now located
in their facilities.
Pdr, Harris questioned them on why a Probation Officer?
i�ir. Sabby, and .,Zs. Carlson, stated that was not one of the key
parts of their prosr;3m, but rather they �vould make space available
for a Probation Orficer, if this was so reguested as a need by
the Anoka County Court System.
D1r. OquiSt questioned if they were doing any counseling now?
T�ir. Sabby stated that he �vas doing some counseling, but that it
was minimal at present.
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PQr. Oquist then ques�tioned as to how people would find out about
their service?
i+'ir. Sabby stated that as of now they havn't done any advertising,
but that when the school year starts, they vrould be sending out
fliers to the school districts. He further stated that at that
time, he would Ue �oing out to all the schools, and orient them
with their operations. He stated that he v+ould be doing the same
thin; with the Police departments, and also with the churches,
and local newspapers.
f�;r. Oquist then questioned them as to what size staf£ they would
have?
Tv:r. Sabby stated that for the first year, they hoped to have
one iull-time, and three part-time counselors, and several
facilitators, tha� !vould be part of their pro�ram, and alsa
secretarial help. He furtherstated that they are not associated
with 5prino Lake Park, but rather a non-profit organization
with v�hom 5pring ZaY;e Park has offered office space and utilities
to them.
P�ZS. Schnabel questioned whether the people who avail themselves
of the CentraZ Center's services, pay for those services?
Nir. Sabby stated that yes they would, based on a sliding scale
of up to $30.00 per hour, on the ability to pay upon income.
But, he stated, noone ivould be refused the counseZing services,
because of an inability to pay.
P+'Is. Schnabel questioned as to the backround of the counselors,
in as much as their qualifications to be called counselors7
P,1r. Sabby stated that tomr,�orrow he would be intervievring two
candidates, one of vrhich is called a clinical psychologist,
and is considered a level two psychologist. The other applicant
he stated has his masters in social work, and has vaorked with
family counseling. r^or himself, he stated, he has his masters
degree in counselin�, pJ.us he has worked in family counseling.
NIr. Harris questioned them as to where they were with the Anoka
County agency as far as funding?
i:Tr. Sabby stated that they have met with A.1r. George Steiner,
who is head of the Comprehensive Health, and that there has
been money appropriated to the County, but they are going through
a process, in which they are trying to decide on the guidelines
for disper•sement of the money. Because of this ;:r. Sabby stated,
they would not know if there would be any money available
until the first of the year, or how it would be dispersed.
Ms. Carlson stated that there are �rants available under the
Niental Health program,but again, those criteria are set to a degree
by the State LegisZature, and there is a change this year, in
the manner in which the money would be distributed.
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[',.r. Sabby stated that the key for them, is to get local support
first. Because, he stated, �-•�hen they go to the State to �et
fundin�;, the 5tate does it on a matchin� Funds basis. Because
o£ that, he stated, it vias important to thc:rn to get local
fundinb first, because it shows that there is a local need,
and support.
��ls. Hughes stated that it appeared to her, that the Human
Re�ources Cornmission had not made a specii'ic recommendation,
but that they had not opposed it either.
P+1r. Truenfels stated that �vas true, and that they had tried to
arrive at the facts to bring before the Plannin,; Comrnission.
D4r. Harris questioned if they had any discussion with the
County Commission?
i�:r, Sabby, and h:s. Carlson stated that yes they had discussion
with ther•i, and their vie�rr tvas that yes, they support the concept
oi �vhat the Center proposed to do, but �vere not in a positior.
as to offer fundin�. �is. Carlson further stated that she felt
that often the goverment ��ias more apt to fund services that
deal more with a crisis situation, than �o fund services
aimed at prevention.
Mr. Harris questioned if the rneMbers of the Commission had read
the nerio that the City i;ianager had sent to the City Council?
i��ls. Hughes stated that she had hoped that the memo would have
told the Cormission if there was money available for this kind
of program, but th2t she felt it did not.
I�1r. Harris concurred, that was �vhat he had hoped rvould be in
the memo, but it v+as not.
P+"�r. Oquist questioned as to �vhether there had ever been any
rnoney set aside for this?
D1r. Boardnan stated that no there had not been r�oney set aside,
but that there are contin;ency reserves within the City, so
that if the City Council tvanted to support the Center's programs,
that there would be rioney that could be made available.
t��s. Hughes stated that she felt that this was at least as
important function, and operation as the second and third
priorities set forth in the memo, and certainly more irnportant
than the first priority, �vhich received the most �uaount of money.
She further stated, that she felt very stron�ly, that human
resources should be kept, and preserved from ruining i:heir
lives, or getting tanhled into soc,e of the crisis situations. She
stated, thai: this is something she felt that the City should
be very concerned with. She stated that she knows some of the
�taff people at Pdorth Suburban F�niily Service Center, and while
she personally, has not ielt a need to avail herself of their
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services, that from conversations with these people, �he is
convinced, that it is an extremely valuable s�rvice to the
Community.
T�ir. Oquist questioned whether they had an operating budget?
t+1r. Sabby stated that yes they do, and that they have about
t�^renty-thousand dollars ta work with, and at this point it would
not take them througn the ?ull year. He further stai�ed that their
budget is runnino from July 1, to July 1, so that they will have
to coMe up vaith other sources of funding for this year in order
to adequately staff the Center, and hire the people on a part-
time basis.
irir, Oquist questioned whether they would be back again next
year for funding?
t��r. Sabby stated that he hoped they v�ould not i�zeed to, but that
he couldn't say for sure no. He hoped that they would be
successful encugh, so that they would not need to return.
P+:s. Carlson stated that a quarterly report on the Center's status,
would be one of their obligations to the City, and if the City
felt that the Center was providing a well functioning, and
very useful, and needed service, and that the Cornmunity was
respondin� we11 to the service the Center �vas providing, that
she didn't think that it would be out of the question that some
continuing loca7. sunport mighz not be asked of the Gity.
T+ir. Oquist stated that since this Center rvould be used by
several corr:munities, within the County, that he felt it would
be appropriate for the City to hei.p in the beginning, but that
maybe future rnonies should be sought after through the County,
of State a;encies.
T��s. Hughes stated that she was involved early on in sorne of the
legislatures discussion on the Comprehensive Health Act, and she
knov�s the philosophy that the legislature was using, whicl� ivas th�.t
they v�ere funding a lot of categorical kinds of programs, and
that they wanted to bring these together, and use the same
amount of money, or perhaps less, distributed through the counties
�vho would do all the same thinns that vrere done under the
categorical programs, plus a feva others including some environ-
mental things. They held a series of hearin;s in the counties,
on hov; that money was going to be spent. ahe further stated that
she is cynical enou�;h to know, that the theory is good, but that
the practice is poor, in that with inflation, eahat they were
going to see was a cut back in some o£ the progra�s, including
some that nobody thou�ht the County could do vrithout. So, of
course, she stated, none oi' the environmental progratns rvill
get funded to any extent. She stated that while it is quite
reasonable to er.pect the County to pick up sorne of this funding,
she felt that it was kind oi a long term £uture thin;, before
some of these programs would get fundin;. She further stated that
�s
PLANNING COi�71iISSION DiiETING Ju1V 25. 1979 _���_ Ya�e 11
therefore, if this is a useful service, it is going to need the
funding locally now, a�d perhaps for another year, before all
is sorted out by the Comprehensive Health Plan.
Mr. Harris stated that there were a few things that still bothered
him„ �The'Firs't be.3ng.that he can see a need for t5is kind of
program if it truly acctimplishes the high.ideals that i;is. Carlson
and P;Ir. Sabby have expressed this Center vaould. But, if it is
just another gimmick for people to get out of their obligation
to be responsible citizens, then he would be against it. He
9tated �hat he felt that there are too many o£ those kinds of
programs around. Secondly, he stated v+as a philosophical
probleM, in that he was not sure if it was the duty and the
responsibility of the City to get into the welfare business,
and:that is essentially what they were doing with this program,
as'they have done in the past with several other programs.
^lhirdly, he stated was that he felt that five-thousand dollars
was pretty steep in that he, for all the tine he has spent on
the Commission�couldn't remember the City of Fridley ever
funding any program for that amount of money.
Mr. Oquist stated that he felt, that if the Commission waS in_
agreement as to this Gentral Genter as a viable, and necessary
program, that they should set the five-thousand dollars as a
maacimum figure, and the City Council could then decide on
the amount of funding the Center would receive.
IVIOTION by i�is. Hughes, seconded by riir. Truenfels, to recom.r,iend
to Council that they underwrite the Central Center ior Pamily
Resources, to the r!maximu� �igure o£ $5,000:00 for this year,
with the stipulation: the City Council should take a look at
these types of proposals, 2nd decide whether the City should
be in this particular type of business at all.
UPON A VOICr. VOTE, ALL VOTING AYB, CHAIBivIAD3 HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIi+YOUSLY.
Chairman Harris informed P;Is. Caxlson, and N'ir. Sabby, that this
would be on the August 6, 1979 City Council Agenda.
With the Commission members concurrence, the Coromission decided
to handle item #3 of the agenda at this time.
Chairperson Harris questioned as to how this could have been sent
back £or reconsideration, ; as it was never sent to Gouncil with
a recommendation?
Nir. Boardman stated that he didn't know as to how it could have
been either, but that the Commissions recommenda,tion was to hold
a meeting with the neighborhood. The r�eeting was held, he stated,
and what came out of that meetin�, was that not whether the property
would, or vrould not be vacated, but rather how could the City
PLANNING COt�iI�iIS5I0N f�1��ETING Jul.y 25, 197g Pa,e 12
control sorne of the problems that are happening in the area at
present. He further stated that after the meeting, it was decided.
that the Gity would try and find some materials, such as rail-
road ties. to try and Y.eep some of the garbage and trash
containers inside a certain section of the parking area o£ the
apartments. He further stated that they vrould come up with some
kind of a scherne to provide the r.iaterials, and the apartment
owners avould put in �ome kind of retention. He stated. that
at present, the City has not been able to corne up with the
materials. He furiher stated that through a discussion with
the apartment ot^mer on the north, the owner �tated that he would
be movin; into the apartment building probably in August, so
that he �vould become more involved in the situation. He stated
that the caretaker of the apartment on the south side, had been
fired, and the o�m er of that building would be �etting new
caretakers in.
I�4r. Boardnans stated that what was brought up at the other
meeting was vrhether the City should get involved in a progra,n
for vacationing the alleyways. He then shovred the Conmi�sion
the sheets that point out tne a1ley�vays of the City. (See
Attachment) ',1r. Boardman stated that under the list of
"Being Used, but Unimproved", the City would want Vacation
Requests signed by the neighborhood. He further stated that
ii the City were to become involved in an alleyvrays vacation
progratn, the Designated & Not Being Used" alleyways �vould
be �tte ones the City tivould get involved with.
;�:Ir. Harris explained that the alleyvaays at present belong to the
ovrner oi the property, but that the City has an easement, so
that if the City were to vacate the alleytA�ay, the use oi the
property is returned to the o�vner, and the City reliqueshes
their rights to access.
P�is. Hughes stated that it ivas her preference that the members
of the Comnission have an opportunity to look at the locations
of the "unimproved" alleyways, and see how people are treating
the area. '
Mr. Berton N. Gross owner of the property at $801 2nd Street N.E.
stated to the Commission, that several years ago, a number o£
alleys rvere vacated by the City so that a lot of people, ran
lines down through the alley, and a number of them:built_garages.
He stated that in Hyde Park, there are just a fe�v that are
open, and that he fought to keep them open. He stated that
he felt that this vaas a program to be improved. He stated
that tenants were like the statutes, in that they are here
today, and gone tomorrow. He further stated that in the
2 1/2 street area, he ielt that was pretty level land, and that
he could see no reason why these landlords couldn't get together
for sanitation factors, and have �Ci1e alley improved so that the
garbage could sit out there, and the sanitation trucks could
go through tne alley.
n7r. Boardman questioned if i.:r. Gross had been in touch �vith
the Iandlords?
YLAIVIYlI'!U GU',ril`diS5I0IV �-1�'�'i'IP�G Jul.,y ?.5, 1�79 P�e 1�
P/ir. Gross stated that no he had not.
ir;r. Harris stated that the section T:;r. Gross �vas referr_ing to,
was not a through a7.1ey, in thst the �ity had vacat�ed a
middle section to the Telephone building a number of years a�o.
i�ir.. Gros^ stated that the City could find out if that alley had
been desi�ated aa a strai�ht throu�h, and if it had been, the
City or the people could 'nave the;�, move the building. r;�r. Gross
sta�ted that he understood that a,t anytime that an alley had
been desi�a�ted, rather than vacated, it could be reopened at
anytime the public so wanted it. Although, he stated this
�vould probably entail a court iight.
i.is. ScYulabel ques�ioned as ta •r�hat the Conmission was ex_pected
to do this evening v�ith SyV �� 79-03 �
T�1r. Soardman stated that they were not expected to do anythin�,
but that it was there for c:ore ini'orr:,ation, on ivhether the
City vaould want to vacate the alleyways, or not. He further
stated that he i'elt tne City �-�as lookir.g at the fa.ct tnat
there v�as no nurpose for having the alley�vay, in that they are
not u;,ed �or access. The proble;r.s that have been c�eated, have
not necessarily been created because there is an altey th�re,
but rather because of dupster locations, or practices oi the
tenants. He further stated that it was his feeling that the
vacation of the alleyr�rays shovld still take place.
NTs. Schnabel questioned vrhether if the vacation did tai�e place,
whether the City v�as still willin� to go in and put in railroad
ties as a barrier?
i��:r. Boardman stated that yes they ivould, as they did establish
that the City would do that at the neignborhood meetin�;.
Discussion ensued as to what the Cornmission should do at this
point.
P,i0TI0N by s'is. Hughes, seconded by ;:is. SchnabeZ, to continue
this discussion of SAV ;r79-03, City of I�ridley; Vacate Al1ey
lyin� South oi' 60th Avenue betvreen 2 1/2 Street and 3rd Street
N.E., until a more opportune time.
UPON A VOIC�: VOTL, ALL VO^tIiVG AY:, CH9IR:',i9N HARRIS �r,CL;�i :D
THE Li0TI0IQ CA,.RIED UIQaPdI;.'iOUSL`l.
Ch�irman riarris, declured a recess at 9=20 P.i•T. , azid reconvened
the neeting at 9a30 P.;�,.
2. PUBLIC n:AiIP1G: �3VIa :D C0:'P%jH :NSIVTi D�V'3LOPi�Ii;D;T FL��i:
i:i0TI0N by iis. Schnabel, seconded by i�lr. Oquist, to open the
Putilic Hearing.
UPON A VOICi. VOTE, ALL VOTITdG AY.'''., CH9IiZ:IAN HAtct�IS DSCL9:tED THE
PJIILI� H�ARING OP��N AT 9�35 P•i��•
PLAPdNIP1G COl';1'fISSIOIV i��F�'PII1G JulY 25� 19,'j9 Pa�e 14
C.Ir. Boardman stated that they had compiled a summary of the
recor.:mended chara�;es to the P1an, that were cnade by the Community
Developr..ent Cor.mis;ion, the Par.ks, & Recreation Com:nission,
and the i:nvironr:enta.l @u�lity Corncuission. He further st�ated that
the }iuma.n 'i:esources Comrr.ission received the docur�ent, and chose
not to review the documen�t. l�lso, he Utated, the Appeals
Com:nission had raade their comments to the previous docu.^.ient eo
that they chose not to reviev� this docurnent.�See f.ttachrnent�
l�;s. Hughes stated that the Park & necreation Cor.:i::iesion approved
the Parks & Open Snace section ivith the a.r,iend;nents that are
listed on the su:rmiary, and then a1so, reviewed the Critical
Area, zsid :nvironmental iiesources sections, and a�reed that the
Goals, and Policies v✓�re compatible tivith those of the Parks
and Open Space.
c;ir. Boardr;�an stated th� F.nvironrnental auality Cor;ir,ission had
aci;ed on the Go�1s and Policies and the Objectives %�nd the
Introduction, but �;hat they still wanted to reserve their
right to revie�,v the mapping, which should be coming shortly.
LATdD U 5:; s
l�is. Schnabel stated tha.t she felt that most oi the first page
of the Introduction could be deleted, in that she felt that it
�vas good material for a ter,t000k, but that it didn°t bel.ong
in this Plan. She further stated that she Fe1t tYiat the first
pa.ra;raph could resnain, and the rest could be deleted, until
they get to the third parag.raph oi the second page.
�ir. Boardman stated that they were looking at general directions
and the r.easonings behind those directions.
i,:r. Trueniels stated that for the record, he would like to say,
that he found the Introduction helpful, in that he is not too
familia.r with land use, and he felt it should stay in the Plan.
P+ir. i�oardman stated that if this ���ere to be a. public document,
he felt that it vras necessary to include some of the summary in
the Introduction.
t.�is. Hughes suggested that as individuals, they could suggest
changes to i..r. Deblon, and deletions that v�ere offensive, and
then he could rewrite the Introduction.
Pr;r. Harris stated that he felt that the �hird paragraph of the
second page of the Introduction was the meat of the wnole
Introduction, but thst they should move on to the Plan llirection.
P�ir. Harris stated that the Commission agreed in the most part
vaith the Plan Direotion.
I+is. Schnabel questioned why the use of the word 'living',
in the Goal?
PLAPdiVING CO�IiP:;ISSIOPd ;,iEETI;JG Ju1v� 1979 _ Pa e 1
i�ir, Boardman stated that word 'living' +r�as becau�e they were
looking at people, at the social a,�pect, and the total
requirement of people living in the environment.
P+ir. Oquist questioned whether these were the same goals, and
objectives, tha.t vaere set up two years prior?
I�ir. Boardrian stated tha.t yes they were, with a few modifications,
mostly with the policies, rather than the �oals.
I+Ir. Harris questioned if they wanted to use the vrord 'best',
iti Objective One?
After discussion, the Cor:raission decided to sv+itch the words
best with attractive in the Goal and Objective One.
'iN,r. �oardraan sur;;ested that in the Goai, they should insert
the word obtainable.
The Commission a°'reed to the chani�es so that the Goal reads:
T0 ASSUR� �cI� B"'Si LIVING EN'dIr.Oi� �IVT O�iAINAF3L� e1HILL i._AII�T�INIIvG
TH : I'sCOiVOP�iIC .V'�3LL B:.ING 0: 1Hi; COt'�'.•':UNITY. "
Ieir. Oquist stated that all the Policies say the City 'should',
which he stated isn't bindin; in that it doesn't mean that
the City will do, or snall do, or must do.
t�ir. Boardr,ian stated that they �ver.e concerr.ed with consistency
in the Plan, and that he had no problem �vith dropping the word
'should'.
IInder Objective One, Policy 1B, the Cor:mission agreed that the
word 'consistent', be change@ to 'co�m,patable'.
The Conunission agreed to Policy 1 A- F, as amended.
The Commission agreed to this inclusion.
Under Policy 2 C, the Coc;,r,�ission agreed to change it to read:
°The City should cooperate �vith business�s in an effort...."
The Cor.unission agreed to P,olicy 2 A- C, as amended.
The Cor.�mission agreed to Policy 3 A- 13.
Under Policy 4 C., the vaord 'encoura.ge should be deleted, and the
word'discourage' should be in inserted.
Under Policy 4 L. the Co;,u:iission agreed to the change suggessted
by the other Con•,mission of deleting the word 'encourage', and
insertin� the word 'allo�v'.
PLANNIPIG C0:.1C;iISSION i=:ELTING JulV 25� 1979 _� 1'a�;e 16
Under Policy 4D., the v�ord 'river' should be deleted, a,nd the
word'natural feature', inserted.
Under Objective `Pwo, tne Commission stated that the words
'or exp;3nsion', be deleted.
Under OUjective T�vo, Policy i A, the v�ords 'corpor.ate offices',
should be deleted, and the vrord 'business's', inserted.
i,Ir. Deblon stated that under Objective four, it should reads
"EPtC0Uit9U� :�PP;�OPTtIAT:: LAND USi CO;�iBTlv'EITIOPdS".
[i?0�'ION by i•:s. Schnabel, seconded by '.�:r. Lruenfels to Continue
Public Hearing; :;evised Comprehensive Development Plan.
UPON A VOSC� VOTE� 11LL VOTING AY�� C$AIY�t�IAN H�1RRI5 D."7CZA�iED �PHE
PUBLIC Ii��:tING CLOS�:D AT 10s�-b0 P.,•i.
4. CONTIf1Ul:D: P::OPOS�D CHAN�:,',:.5 TO CHAPTEk ?.05 LOTvING
P,TOT?DPd ',iy i'r,r. Truenfels, seconded by i�lr. Oquist to continue discussion on
I'roposed Chapter 205 Zoning.
UPON A V6ICE VOTE, �'1LL VOTING AYE, CH9Ii�i`;i?.N HA;4RIS DSCLARrD THB
P+i0TI0N CAr�RIiD UNAilI:iOIISLY.
6. RECFIVy HtJi+iAN i ESOU:3C�S COi,�i.ISSI0P1 1'�:ILdU`i'i:S: JULY 12, 1��
Ti�OTION by I:lr. Truen?'e1s, seconded by i,is. Schnabel, to receive
the July 12, 1979 minutes of the Iiuman Fcesources Conunission.
UPON A VOICy VOT�, ALL Y.OTIIQG AY::, CI1AI=t��IAN HA:=tRIS D�CL�tiD TH�
:�10TION CAkRIi:D UN�iNI�:iOUSLY.
V�
P.?OTION by �.1r. Oquist, seconded by Y;:s. Schnabel, to receive the
July 10, 1979 minutes of the CoMmunity ➢evelopment Comriission.
UYON A VOICE VO�i'r., aLL VOTIIVG AYE, CHAIii;aA.v H9RRI5 DECL�RED TH�
P.10TION CEiRRIi:D UNAN1�,i0USLY.
Eir. Boardr.an stated that �h�re vras a��'sinneapolis Ordinance
that covered the conversion, that was give to the Comnission
mernbers for their reference. {See Attachment)
tcluch discussion took place on this ordinance. The Coramission
concurred, that £roi� luoking at the Ordinance, it appeared to the
members, that C::inneapolis was tryin� to malte conversions very
difficult, and thereby discouraging �them.
PL71T3T1It�1U C0;'PviIS�ION P�9��TI1VG _July ?5 1979 Paf;e ly
i.9s. Schriabel questioned:flr. Harris as to what the status�of the
`I'enants-Lar�dlord co�ru�i ttee under. the liurnan «esources ��a�.
i+ir. Har.ris stated that it ti��as disbanded, but that i+. was
possible that it could be resurrected to look into this matter.
;•TOTION by '`s, :ichnabel, seconded by �,ir. Dquist, to send to the
Community Development Commission the Uiscussion on Conversion
of :�ent�al Property, �.vhich v�auld include tovanhouses, condominiun�,
etc., for their reco;nrnendation.
UPOPd A VOIC: VOT�, ALL VO`Pii'dG AY:�, CHAIIu�i6iN HA�iRTS Di:CI,Aii:.i� THE
I�10'lIOi`i CARRIEiJ Ui�1ANIi;iOUS�T,Y.
� OTH�? EII5IN�SSs
�Is. Schnabel questioned ;,'.r. Boardn:an, if his office had seen a
report that had corr.e frorn the Unper. ':;;idtitiest Council? She
stated that two thin.�s had come out of that report, one b2in�
that tY:e majority of the population ��ri11 be oi the senior
citizen category, so consequently, housing needs vri11 be geared
to�vard them, and secondly, ther wi11 be more jobs than job
force worl:ers available.
Discussion ensued on how this report might relate to Fridley.
�;OTI01`i by i�Ir. Oquist, seconded by iis. Schnabel to receive the
Sgecial t:ieeting r�inutes of the Comnunity llevelopnent Concaission
of July 19� 1979•
i3P0IV A VOIC : VOi�:., ALI� VOTING AYL'., CIiAIR:iAN HAs�RT5 D;=,CLAZ:.D ^iH�
D'i0TI0N CARRIED UNA:YZ;.iOUSZY.
0
P.10TION by I�is. Hughes, seconded byiur. Oquist, to receive the
Special i,�eeting r„inutes of the Parlt & P.ecreation Comr„ission of
July 18, 1979•
UPON A VOIC?: VOTi, ALL VO^lIi`IG AY�, CHAI:'ii�I1�N HARRIS D:�CIi`rlcltED TH�
i<i0TI0N CARti2I:]] UNANIiiDUSLY.
The Planning Comnission concurred, that they �vould have a Special
1�leetin; to de�l `•iith the Comnrehensive Plan, on V7ednesday,
Au�zst 1, 1979 at 7:0o P.i".
�]?JOU:�Ni�i :i'd'P:
P:i0TI0N by C.is. Hughes, seconded by GTr. 1^ruenfels to adjourn
the Ju1y 25, 1979 meeting of the Planning Commission.
• July 'L3, 1979
�r. Richaxd Harris
Chairman, Fridley Planna.ng Coannission
Dear ISr, tiarr3e:
At a recent meeting of the P3_�nninf; Commiasion, the
Iiunan ReUources Comc��-ssion ��+as aeked to look at the
Central Center 3or I`atnilg Resourcee, no�v 'oeing £ormed
in Sprin� I,ake Pask, v1i�h narticular al;tention to poseible
duplication and overlap �*aith services rendered b,y other
organizations in the Fridley area.
The Centra7. Center 3or I�'amily P.esources pronoses, in
pa_}"ticul�', the lollo�ving services;
1, parent discus�ion grouros Por paxents o� chilaren
in ,'.Linder�arten t:nrou�Yi Grade 3.
2, Yarent discussion groups for parents of children
in the upper elecaentar.y grades.
3, Farnily counseling.
4, S�iorkshops for parents of youn� children.
5. Cotlrdinate v,rith other social service agencies
and bring resou-rce peonle into the comnunit,y.
A. 1 amil,y counselor
B. Probation officer
C, Red CrosU
p, Battered cromen group
Ous eurvey has found the follovring: -- f
Parent discusNion groups: l�pparently no overlap for r�-�^^'�s a�
school children� Iiindexgarten throu�h elementar.,y grades.
However, for parents of pre-school children, °I:oping ���ith Kids
-- Kradle through i_indergarten (l��) " o£=ers presentations
and sma11-group discuUsions for tlie parents.
Family counseling -- some overlap vrith I,utheran 5ocia7. Service
( at St Phillip's ) and r�ith Fridley I,iethodist Church.
Probation of�icer -- Probation is handled through
Anoka County Coust Services, It is not clear �vhat the role
of the Central Center Tor ramily Resou.rces would be.
Battered �vomen -- appasently duplicai;es the �rork of the
Anolta Count�r Task Force for ]3attered 4Tomen (ACT).
tii�hat is de�ini�ely needed in the Fridle,y ax'ea is
counselin�; for teens. The North Subusban Pamily Service Center
appaxently is not accessible b,y bus. It ie not cle ar �
rvhether the Centr al Center for Fa�ily Reeources would
provide any coun�eling for teen-agere.
Respectfu.11y submitted
r.��. �i=.... �...�,C.,
Peter TreuenLels
for tlie IIuman i�esourcey Con�niission
,�,
'Rof, to
Public Hoorinp
2nd Raoding & Finol
Posiage
�� ��Ig���i"�f`���
Comm. of Ihe
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Doto to Moyor
Dafo Refurned
Dalc RaSubmittod
to Council—
Alclerr,�an TSarl: };aplan & nlderman S�zlly Iloward
-- prescnt the following ordinancc:
nr,iend.inc7 '1'itle 12 of the P9inneapo.tis Code of Ordinances relatinq
to 23ousiny.
The City Council of the City oF Minneapolis do ordain ns fotlows:
Section 1. The Minneapolis Code of Ordinances is amended by adt3ing
thereto Chapter 250, reading as follows: �
CHAPTI:I2 250. R�S]:ll�NTIAL CONVL•'RSIONS.
250.10 DEPINITIONS
For the purpose of this chapter, the following terms shall mean:
Unit bei.nq offez-ed for s11e: In the case of condominium conversions
tliis shall ;.ican the _ sale of a dwelling uniL- of the building alcng witii
an aliyuot share of the common areas of the building. In the case of
cooperaL-ive conversions this shall mean the sale of an aliquot share of
the entire building alony tiaith tl�e right to rent a particular unit.
Tenanc: Any person leasing or renting a residential anartment in
a Uuilcling, or qrou� of said tenants, or corPoration, association,
��artnerstiip or trusi: owned 100 percent by such tenants.
EvicLion for c7cioc1 ����•-�; �viction because of non��ayroent of rent,
vivlation ui le�7se Cerms which have been c�ener.ally entorcecl in Chc
builQiny, or conm�ission oP wasCC. .
12c1ocaCion assisLcuic� p�viiicnt-�� Cnsh payntents in consi�cratipn vf:
the cost of moving and general costs relating to finding and renLing
ar bu}�inq a F�lace in tiYhich to live.
Rel.ocat.i,c�n nss.ist:ance; 11id in the form of 1i�ts of poLenCial
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� r.ental units in Lhc samc or a simi�ar neighUorhood; oLiers to rent in
�� similar buildin�3 owned by the s�i�n� owncr as L-he presen� Uuildinc�;
other a£firmatiVe stef�s taken by the present owner to locate suitahler
equivalent housing for the displaced tenant.
Acvclo��cr: The pexson or persons, Partnership or limited partner-
ship, corporation or other business association which owns a rental
dwelling or building and which proposes to se11 that buildinq in parts
' to individual owners either through a condominium or cooperative system.
250.20 PdOTICL•' TO TL•'NI�NTS
At least 120 days prior to offering any unit for sale to the
public, the developer must provide to each tenant of the building a
written sta�errent containing the following:
a) Not,ice of intent to sell tlie unit
b) Sale price of units
c) Firm ofier of sale oi- the unit to the tenant
d} Detailed explanation of the tenant's rights under this
ordinance and any other ordinances or laws.
A copy of each such notice shall be mailed by the developer to the
Minneapolis Department of znspec'tions and to the Alderman of the Ward
in which thc unit is located.
250.30 RIGI3TS OP TE;�Ri1TS TO PURCFIIIS�
1) I'or the first 60 days of the 120-day period provided in
Section 25U.20 of tlzis chapter, there shdll be an exclusive riqht for a
LenanL- association, o�aned 1�0 percent Uy �he tenanl-s of L-he buildiny, to
purcl�ase the entire building.
2) For the next 30 days eacli•L-enant {or sub-tenant) has an ex-
clusive riqht to purcitase L-lie unit he/she occupies.
. 3) IP Llze i.enant rejects L-he offer to l�urcliase, the unit must be
�
made available for purchase by other LentlnLs in the huil.c3iiig. This righC
to purchase extend;, ta l-he e�id oL t:he 120-day noti.ce periorl.
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'. , 4) Tf no Lenant; accepL-s Lhc� o.Efer to p�rchase Lhe unit, the
` cleveloper �n�iy noC oLler Lhe unit- lor sale Lo Lhe t>ublic �at a price
and term� niore advantageous to the buyer.than were otfered to the
tenant association or tenantis for a period of 90 days after the end
of the 120-clay period.
250.90 EVICTIONS
lj No unit can be offered for sale if in the 150 day period
irnmediately preceding the sale or oEfer of sale any tenant has been
evicted witliouL- good cause.
2) For 120 days prior to offering a rental unit for sale to the
,
public, a tenant.of the building can be evicted only for good cause.
3) No tenant can be evicted upon less than 60 days' notice;
however, in no event may such eviction be effective prior to the end
of the 120 day notice period, except as provided in 2) above.
250,50 RELOCATION ASSISTAI�C� AND PAypqENTS
Relocation assistance payments in the amounts as scheduled belo�,�
shall be paicz to tenanfs tivho vacate the building either voluntarily
or i.nvoluntar,ily after receiving notice of intent to sue,by the
developer: Relocation assistance payments shall be paid to�tenants at
least 15 days before the date the tenant vacates and shall be in
adclition to any security deposits or other compensation zefund or
assistance to iehich the tenant is otherwise entitled:
a) COi1DO:lII1IUi•1 CONVLRSION RE'.;OC1�TIpN IIENEPITS
1 person in household: $300
2 j�crsoiis i�l houscl�old: $q5p
3.persons in household: $G00
4 ��ersoits iiz household: $75p
5 or more persons in
household $900 � �
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�� In addiL-ia�, at the time of ;�a1e ot the tirst uni�, �hc developer
shall esLablish an escrow fund in an amount ec�ual l0"1 percent of- Lhe
sales price of each unit sold, and shall be deposited into escrow
concurrently with the closing of �he sale of each unit. Such fund
shall be in a bank other than any bank having any ciirect financial
, connection ivith the sale, mortgage, other encumberance or ownership o£
all or any part of the building. At such point as the Condominium .
, Rssociation is formed sucl� escrow fund may be replaced by a letter of
credit in favor of the Condominium_Association of an amount equal to
1 percent of the sales prices of all units in the building. The
condominium association shall have the power to ���i.thdraw from the fund
or dra�a do�an on the letter of credit for the purpose of making repairs
Lo warranted improvements. No money shall be withdrawn from the fund
unless the developer has been advised in tariting of the need for the
specific�rcpaii and has failed to complete the repair within a reasonable.
period of time. Depletion of. the escrow fund pXior to expzration of the
warranty period sliall not relieve the developer of the obligation of
making all repairs warranted. Any money rernaining in the fund at the
end of the one-year period shall�be returned to the developer. The
owners' association's claim to money in the escrow fund or to the letter
of credit shall be prior to any creditor of the landlord, including a
irustee in bankruutcy or receiver, even i£ such funds are cominyled. Tn
the case of a cooperative conversion an escrow Lund of 1 percent of the
sales price ot the building shall be created at Che time oP ti�e closing
on the buildin�. This Lund shall be for the purpose or ma};ing repairs
under this paragrapl� and shall not at any time accrue to t}ie original
ot}�ner of the building (t7ie developer) .
• 250.90 UIJCLOSUl\� I2L•'QUSR�MliN'1'S
In adclition to other requir.ed di.scl.oe;ures, developers shall makc
avail��ble i:Jle foll.oty�inq information io nrospeckiv�� �>urch;ir.ers:
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~ 'a) Cop.ics of �11 condorninium oi cooperal-ive documenL-s.
uj Li.sC ot re��aizs and impLOVCmenLs to be completed before L-he
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close of sale, includiny specificaL•ions, materials to be uscd, con-
tractors and cost.
c) �sti�nate of the.useful life of tl�e building's major components
and mechanical systems.
d) Estimate oL- the cost of repair of any component whose useful
, life is less than five years
e} Itemized statement in budyet iorm uf�the monthly cost of owning
a unit.
f) Statement of_the actual expenses for the building as shown on
the SRS form £or income property as filed for the most recent taxable
year. If such statement is based on accrual accounting, an additional
atatement based on cash accounting is required.
g) Certificate of code compliance.
h) Any tenant, representative of any tenant or any other pzospective
purchaser shall be permitted by the developer to inspect any or all
common areas, mecl�anical units of the buildiny, structural units of
tho building and any other significant component of the building at
renflonnble nnd convenient times.
2.ri0.100 7�DllITION11li PROVISION5
1) Any purc}�aser has an absolute riglit to rescind an earnest
moncy ayreement or oi:her acceptance of an�offer'of sale, within 15 days
afCer 'receipL oC all Qisclosnre documents.
2) In any case where local, staL-e or federal funds are used in
any i,>ay, the developer must affirmatively market wzits offered for sale
in accordance with IIUD affirmative marketing requirements.
, 3) If any sec�ion, provisio�i or clausc of this c)iapter be adjud9ed
invalid, the snme shall not affect the v�ilidiL-y of this chak�ter as a .
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. whole, or �1ny sec,tioiz, provision or clause ather thnn the part c3eclared
to be invalid. IL- is hercby declared to be L-he leyislatit�c intent o£
the City Counci2 that this chapter would have been adopted had such
unconstitutional or invalid provision or part thereoi not been included.
,4) This chapter shall not be applicable to transfers of units,
'.contracts for sale of which were entered into prior t� June 1, 1979, or
to sales of units closed prior to the effective date hereof.
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PUBLIC HEARIN6
BEFORE THE .
PLANNING COt1MISSION
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Publ�ic Hearing of the
Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431
University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, August 8, T979
in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M, for the purpose of:
Consideration of a request for a Special Use
Permit, -SP #79-09, by Fridley United Methodist
Church, to allow the use of the present church
as a child care center, per Section 205.051, 3,
F, afi the Fridley City Code, on Lots 1, 2, 3, and
22, 23, 24, and 25, Block 2, Christies. Addition,
the same being 566 Mississippi Street N.E.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an-opportuni.ty
at the above stated time and place.
Publish: July 25, 1979
August 1, 1979
RICNARD H. HARRIS ,
CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
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CITY OP FRIDLEY MINN850TA
PLANNING AND ZONING FORM
APPLICANT'S SICNATURE�j1a� (/,r>Irz� ,1��
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Address � /� �/-1r-�,y�SS/,�i0/ -cr , �
Telephone Number S7/ �'/��.z!
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PROPERTY OWNER�S SIGNATUR � �
Address ll �`1/Ssis . S ,
Telephone Number S7/— /S'�./
5treet Location of Property ��� ✓`1[ SSiSSi,o,O> �-. �
Legal Description of Property Le�s �'� r��� �
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TYPE OF REQUEST
Rezoning
� Special Use Permit
Approval of Pxemin-
inary $ Final Plat
Streets or Alley
Vacations
Other
Fe��Receipt No. .�S
�D�� Z. l.h����lil ��+SG[.
Present Zoning Classification • Existing Qse of Propertyc�'����/
Acreage of Property Describe briefly the prgpo�d zoni�ng classification
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or type of use and improvement groposed r'iSc� p"�"�1�sc�i�' ''�-'-S� �
�'iG� Ci�Gc'� c"t�^��- .
Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a 2ot sp�or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? yes no,
Mhat was requested and when?
The undersigned understands that: (a) a list of all residents and owners of property
within 300 feet (350 feet for rezaning) must be attached to this application.
(b) This application must be signed by all owners of the property, or an explanation
given why this is not the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings
resulting from the failure to list the names and addresses of ail residents and
property owners of property in question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the
foilowing: 1, North Qirection. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lot.
3. Uimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setbacks.
4. Street Names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 300 Eeet).
The undersigned hereby declares that alI the facts and representations stated in this
application are true and correct.
DATE
pate Filed Date of Hearing
Planning Commission ApProved City Council Approved
(dates) llenicd (dates) Denied
MAILING LIST
SP �79-09, by Fridley United
Methodist Church. Lots 1-3,
and 22-25, Block 2, Christies
Addition. �
Independent School 4ist. 14
6100 West Moore Lake Drive
Fridley, MN 55432
Fridley United Methodist Church
Attn. Frank Ferguson
666 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
LaRue H. & Joyce E. Cooke
716 Mississippi Street
Fridley, MN 55432
Floyd A. Fjeld
700 Mississippi Street
Fridley, MN 55432
Ben Franklin Federal
Savings and Loan Association
701 Bennett Drive
Fridley, MN 55432
Erivn D. and Virginia M. Henry
713 Bennett Orive
Fridley, MN 55432
Edeward J. & Marlene J. Audryski
636 Mississippi Street
Fridley, MN 55432
Richard T. Dean &
Margaret A. Peter
620 Mississippi Street
Fridley, MN 55432
Sandra E. Lewis
606 Mississippi Street
Fridley, MN 55432
Richard L. & Mary Veeder
609 Bennett Drive
Fridley, MN 55432
James H, & Mary Johnson
621 Bennett Drive
Fridley, MN 55432
Planning Comnission 7-24-79 'I
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Alfred & Mary Rejman
633 Bennett Drive
Fridley, MN 55432
LeRoy Corgard
626 Bennett Drive
Fridley, MN 55432
Paul M. & Doris R. Shaw
6380 Madison Street
Fridley, MN 55432
Fred G. Olson
6390 Monroe Street
Fridley, MN 55432
Curtis A. & Margaret A. Martinson
6380 Monroe Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
John N. & Margaret Munson
6381 Madison Street
Fridley, MN 55432
George K. & Judith A. Dilley
6391 Madison Street
Fridley, MN 55432
Roberta J. Mitchell
6381 Monroe Street N.E�.
Fridley, MN 55432
Frederick L. & Elisabeth A. Schenk
6391 Monroe Street
Fridley, MN 55432
Michael Lee & LuAnn Rohr
715 Mississippi Street
Fridley, MN 55432
Eleanor S. Schinke
703 Mississippi 5treet N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
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The undersigned hereby declares that all the £acts and
representations etated in ihis application are true and
correct. .
DATE: �% "' - % '�/
BELOW POR CITY USE ONLY (Se� aleverse side for �dditional instructione
CHECKED �iY STAFF DATE
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PLANNING COMMISSION: Date of Co.nsideration -
Remarks•
' CITY COUNCIL: DAte of Consideration -
' Remarks:
LOT SPLIT APPLICATION PROCEDURE
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1. Obtain application form at City Hall (6431 University Avenue N.E., fridley).
2. Return completed application form with the required sketch of the property
involved and the lot split fee of $311�l1 for each original lot being split.
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3. The application will be checked over by Staff and the owner may be required
to submit a Certificate of Survey containing a simple description of a part
of a platted lot or registered lot, along with the new parcels created with
aTl existing structures tied in.
4. The application will then be su6mitted to the Ptanning Commission for their
recortunendation. The Planning Commission meets on the Wednesday following
the City Council meeting, which is generally the first and third Wednesdays
of the month.
5. The recommendations of the Planning Commission are submitted to the City
Council for final action. If a Certificate of Survey wasn't required before,
it will be required for this meeting. The City Council meets on'the first
and third Mondays of the month.
6. The City Council approval may be subject to certain stipulations which must
be complied with by the applicant.
7. A letter will be sent to the applicant to notify him of the Counci.l action
and to advise him to comply �aith the conditions imposed by the City. The
letter will also contain any necessary deeds for easements and other pertinent
f h' i nature
papers or is s g . ,;�.
8. Wk�en all the conditions of the lot split have been complied with, the applicant
should file the lot split in Anoka County.
� 9. In•atl cases where Council action has been sou9ht and denied, no petition for
identical action can be presented until a period of six months has elapsed.
' NOTE: THE RESULTING REAL ESTATE TAXES AND SPECIAI ASSESSMENTS FOR
THE NEW PARCELS IN TOTAL AFTER THE LOT SPLIT P1AY EXCEED TNE
AMOUNT ASSESSED TO THE ORIGINAL PARCEL. THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT
OF FRIDLEY MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF
ADDITIONAL TAXES OR ASSESSMENTS.
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DCPAR7MENT OF fVA7URAL �RESOURCES .
, '• CENTENNI,AL OFFICE 9UiL.DING • Si. PAUIi MINNESOiA • 55155
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De�ign �ngineer
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Transportation U1�ilding ,
St. Pau1,.MN 55155 ,
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' Dear Mr. Eilts:
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gEi 33b�. PDR FOR SP 0214-01 and
6243-01, Tft 20 in COOt7 RAPIDS�
� ' SLAZ1�, MOUA'DSVIEW � �
The Departrnent of Natural Resources has reviewed the above ,
XeFerenced Project Development Report and•has several.concerns re- .
:. ;,garding the proposal.. . . . : .
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" - Ouz� primary concern is that this project represents a proli£era-
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- tion of transport�tion corridors in t}�e area, the new road�,ay being
:les's thart a mile from the existing four-lane road�ay. It..would seem .
�' pzudent.to give stxong consideration to upgrading the present roadway
=' rather than to establish nnother corridor so nearby. p*���fPr�tion .
r�+- i�,�i� not onlv3]S�r land use generally, but is�.rticrY
�. detrinental to natnral resources and contributes to oEten-undesirable .
' � - actnri �ttr[3 [3PVelCD^�'lelltS. . - ' �� - . .
We are pazticularly concerned with this pzoject because it will�
; affect nearly_300 acres of wetlands and•will probably destroy directly
. at least 15 to.20 acres of wetlands. A breakdown o£ wetland areas in
the corridor area is as �fo�lov�s: •
• • �pe I_ I= 1 area; 14 acres .
• TyPe ZI - III 1 area; 37 acres
- . �.pe =II 1 area; 16 acres
qype =IS - IV 2 azeas; 5 and 14 ac=es
. _ 7ype VI 3 areas; 9,100 and 108 acre5
, In addition, two arcas (one east of TFi 65 and one at Egret street)
were not typed (see attached map). . ,
•A1Z these areas provide a�od wildlife h itat except the 'lyPe
I- II which is fair. SJildlife �pecies eapected to be present incluZe
deer� pheasant, waterfor�l, rabbit, raccoon, fox, songbirds, hawks,
, owls and various srall ma�ls. S:ildlife habitat ,uch as provided
by these areas is lie:.n9 lost throughout the metropolit,:n area to all
kinds of development, inclnding hiyl�ways. l�'hile not all of thcse
wetlanfls would necessarily 2ie preserved if the hic,hway were not built,
some hopefully Mvuld be retuined as open �pace in residential areas.
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We £eel that the two Type III - IV wetlands just west of the ]�noka
County Airport,shouJ.d be preserved, und that mitigation should be
piovided for the othez wetlands lost.
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.The two stream cr�ssings, Pleasuze Creek and ,Snri�g Rrook (County
' Ditch 17), are �e,VT shrub,swariPs which provide excellent habitat
ior the species of wildlife previously mentioned. The strearis ther�-
telves•have been previously ditched and apgear to provide hzbitat
most�.y for minnows and. serve as possible avenues £or norther pike
,,.' spawning runs. ,
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Effozts should be made to minimize +-++noff containina nutrients and
vollutants which w311 1�dvQr�lv effect other adjacent wetlands. �
The praft EZS should thoroughly er.plore initigative measures and
alternative alignments as well as the impact on existing Netlands.
h'e�realize that this project is part of the proposed Northtown
Cozridor, but �t would appear that this poztion of the ptoject is not
an indispensable part of the overall project. An upgraded :73 10 in
the present 2ocation could tie into the remaining portion o t e '
Northto��n Corridor and serve virtually the same pvrpose.
We hope that these cormnents will be helpful in the planning of
this project and in the development of the environrental impact
state�ent. '- .
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Sincerely,
Jerome H. Kuehn
' Administrator £or Planning
cc: Richard Myshak
iion Carlson---
Larry Seymour�
Oliver Jazvenpa
5�i3.1t Krona r' N i.�
T„A, �Korth -
L.r„ Eiics '
W,M. Crawford ,
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EATt1IRONi�NTAL QUI�LITY CONA4ISSI02?
MEETING
JULY 17, 1979
CALL TO ORD�,R:
Chairperson Jim LangenfPld called the July 17, 1979, Environmental Quality
Cov�anission meeCing to order at 7:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: 7im Langenfeld, Bruce Peterson, Lee Ann Sporre,
Connie Metcalf, Marvin Hora
ldembers t�baent: None
6thers Presenr_: Bill Deblon, Assistant Plar.ner
(See attached list)
A?PP,OJAT. OF St111R 19, 1979, ENVIRONMEN'PAL QUALITY COh4dISSION MI:�TT!"iES:
P10TI0�' by ris. Sporre, seconded by Mr. Hora, r.o zpprove CYie June 19, 7.979,
Environraentai Quality Co�nission minut.e�;
The followir.g amendments cvere made to the minut�s:
Fage ?, paragraph 3, last sentence te read: "A11 goals, objectives,
and polic'_es could be in one document and the inventory, including
an abundance of paper and maps, could be bound in a separate document
as a reference."
Page 3, paragraph 2, second to last sentence, the �,�ord "atmo,pheric"
should be inserted before the word "homes".
Page 5, last pazagraph, second sentence, "District 11" should be
inserted to read: "District 11 and District 16 portions..."
UPON A VOICE ��OTE, ALL VOTIfiG AYE, CY..AIRPEP.SON LANGENFELD DECLARED TI�
JUNE 19, 1974, ENVIRONM�'�NPAi, QUAI,ITY COMMISSZflN MLNtJTES f�PPRQVED AS AP1EidDF,ll,
APP80VAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Ms. Metcalf, seconded by ;ir. liora,.to amEnd the agenda to have
Item 2, "Continued: keport on New Trunk Highway 10 �nvironmental Impact
Statement" Uecome Item 1, Iten� 3, "Continued: Discussion on First Level
. F.va)uation of Alteznatives, T.}'.. 610 (2IorY_h Crosstown) and T.H. 169" become
Item 2, and Item 1, "Tabled; Revieco of itevised Ccmiprehensive Development
Plan" becone Item 4. UFON A ��OICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSOiQ LANGENFELD
II�C;,ARED TilE MOTION C4RRIED IIN:INIMOLiSLY.
ENVIRON"�NTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, JULY 17, 1979 - PAGE 2
Ms. Joan Mouritsen, 953 N.W. 87th Lane; Coon Rapids, stated that those
present at the meeting were concerned with both the relocation of T.H, 10
and the Nor.thtown Corridox. -
1. .CONTiNUED: REPORT ON NEW'TRUNK HIGHWAY 10 ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENf:
Mr. Deblon stated that at the last Commission meeting, a motion was made to
haye Staff review the EnvironmentaL Impact Statement (EIS) on the new Trunk
Highway 10. He stated he had reviewed the EZS. The main concern expressed
, by the Commission was the effect on Fridley of the proposed action to relocate
Highway L0; also there was a concern about wetlands and water quality.
Mr, Deblon dietributed copies of a memo he had written to Jerrold Soardman,
City Planner, after reviewing the EIS. He stated he was attemptiag to.address
the immediate concerns of the effect this project would have on Fridley.
He was not trying to endorse any of the alternatives.
MOTION BY MS. SPORRE, S�CONDED BY NL2. PETLRSON, TO RECEIVE THE MEMO DATED
JULY 16, 1979, rROM BILL DEBLON TO JERROLD EOARDMAN. UPON P, VOSCE VOTL�, ALL
VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRPERSON LANGENFELD DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIBD UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Deblon s�ated that in the memo he had also addressed the second motion
made by the Commission at their last meeting regarding the Northtow�n Corridor,
that Staff contact the ronsultant (Bather, Ringrose, & Wolsfeld) to find out
why tl�e City oY k'ridley was not noti£ied ar.d to remind L'he consultant that the
City of Fridley wovld like to be inforned and receive a1i repor*_s.
Mr. Deblon stated he �ad a copy of the EIS on T.H. 10. He thought the be;t
way to yuickl}� convey some of the contents of the EIS was ko give a brief
presentation. Tne memo itself contained about the Uest summary as far as
content. Mr. Deblon highlighted the r_ontents of the memo. He stated his
conclusions after reiriew of the EIS were: (1) There is a need £or action to
alleviate traffic volume problems; {2) There will be impacts on wetlands and
Spring Brook; however, measures are going to be taken to minimize affects;
(3) No matter what alternaCive is chosen, the City of Fridley should make
sure that all the nec2ssary actions are taken to mitigaCe affects on Spring
Brook and all drainage through Fridley.
Mr, Peterson stated that on the top of page 2 of Mr. Deblon's memo, it
stated that "the agencies, such as the Rice Creek and Spring Brook,have been
contacted to obtain drainage plans." I�r. Peterson stated that since Spring
Brook has no watershed district or agency, he was wondering who had been
contacCed with regard to Spring Brook.
Ms. Sporre referred to Item �r2 on the first page of Mr. Deblon's memo
where Mr. Deblon had stated that after review of the EIS, he found it
"revealed plan compatibility with four communities." She asked if these
cities or the County had approved the EZS.
Mr. Deblon stated that this was a draft document, and to his knowledge, they
had not approyed it.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COt�1ISSI0N MEGT7TdC, JU"f.Y_7.7, 1979 - PAG.E 3
Ms. Sporre st-ated L-hat the question of compatiUility then really hadn't
been addressed by the political body.
Mr. Deblon read the following statements from the RIS's "Compatibility"
section: �
"Based on existin� comprehensive plans and zoning ordinance of
Coon Rapids, Moundsview, and Spring Lake Park, and the zoning of
Blaine, no conflicts can be found wi�h the proposed action. Each
co�unity has either prepared plans which include khe proposed
action or has assumed that the proposed action would be constructed.
Each �f the four com�nunities have made plans assuming the proposed
action would be relocated. In some instances, a corcidor has been
identified on official plans. Ir. no instance do the plans reject
the. need for an improved highway iri this area." '
"Blaine has made strong commitments in support o£ the constructi.on
of the relocation of 1.H. 10. Blaine has included a corridor for
relocated T.H. 10 in the project area in its zoning maps since 1962."
Mr. Langenfeld explained to those present that the City of Fridley had not
been ircformed of this proposed action, and the Environmental Quality
Convm?.seion ha3 not become awsre ot it until the day o£ the meeting with
RatLer, �?in�rose i� G?ci.sreld (BCt[d) at A.dr�c�e Scho:l.. Ht char..*_ia:a, thev did
aot l�ave a cop} of the EIS or any ininzmz�ti.on. :�'hey now ha3 tnE �.iS c^hich
they will. revie�a and submit cou�arents azi:i rnr_ocrenendations to th2 Pleanin�
Cci�nnission, wha in Gurn aill go to Ci.*.} Council.
Ms. Joan Mouritsen sL-ated that she li•aes on Pleasure Creek in Coon Kapids
so they are quite concerned aoout the drainage from Hight�ay 10. AC Che �
meeting at Adams School on June 13th, they were asking questions about the
draznage, as were people concerned aba_it- Spring Brook. At_ thaL` meeting,
they were told there were no drainage p'ans as of yet,-ar.d she thought that
the coi:sultanC said there would not be any draiaage plans'uneil Che fall af
1980 and no final plans until 1981.
Mr. Deblon stated that as far as addressing Spring Brook's crossing�tl^s ��A�h� 1
he read the following statement from the EIS: "At the proposed crossing
a: Polk Street intersection, the channel and hydraulic cUaracteri,sCics
of this stream would be preserved in the design of the crossin�. A
monitorin� would be done to det�rmine the effectiveness of. erosion controls
during construction."
Mr. Deblon stated lie was not trying to defend this action. He was just
saying this was the mitigative measuze that wi11 take place. i.n the event
this acCion is proposed. There is an Executi�✓e:-0rder 11990 issuad
May 75> 1977, that deals caith the avoidance of adverse impacts associated
with the destruction or moda.fication of wetlands: "Pederal f�mding can be
granted far action cahich involves construcCien of weClands on7._v when the
following findings have been made: (1) Taere is no practicaUle alternative
to construction in the wetLands; and (2) The proposed action incLsdes aIl
pYactic,sble measures to minimi2e L'ne harm to the wel-lands.°
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ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COt�,^fISSION MEETING, JULY 17, 1979 - PAGE 4
Mr, beblon stated that on page 128 of the EiS, it listed nine measures
to minimize harm to the wetlands.
Mr. Peterson stated it puzzled him that Fridley was not notified. Even
th6ugh the highway doesn't go directly through Fridley, ft affects Fridley
because the watersheds in Fridley are affected.
Mr. John Ricker, 360 Ely St., Fridley stated that the Spring Brook wetlands
were afiected already by Blaine and Coon Rapids because of the drain systems
put in directlq to the river. The wetlands were cut off from Spring Brook
by the NorthCOwn Shopping Center and by connecting directly into tfie.sewer
s,ystem. Re stated rhat Fridley should have been informed of the progosed
action on liighwa3 10. He stated he was also interested in traffic control
because he lives on East River Road.
Ms. Mouritser. siated that most of the people at the meeting live just inside
Coon Rapids near Pleasure Creek. This all started by their looking into a
drainage problem at Pleasure Cxeek. Then, they got a notice in the mail that
the Northtown Corric�or would be coming somewhere near. This information was
not specific as an alignment has not yet been chosen to cross the river to
connect with'either new Highway 10 0: the present Highway 10, so they
became very concerned ab¢ut that.
Ms. Mourirsen staY.ed that at the meeiing, at hdams School, I�S�n' seemed to
recomrnettd t'l�at the southern roul'e, which is nearer to Fridiey, would be
ciieaper and it ha� severai points they seemed to favor. FiRFJ did rer.c�end
an interch�nge at East River Road. She stated they.lived in the Adams School
DistricC, and this �oould cut the school dzstrict in ha?.f. Their childre.n go
oct Eas[ kiver Road to go to school cr bicycle to friends' homes, so it has
a direct efEect or. the traffic on East River Road and the school district in
general. They also did not know that a six-lane frees�ray was being recommended.
This would generate quite a bit more traffic through Ceon Rapids, more air
pollution, noise pollution, and water pollution, so they were quite concerned.
Since several blocks of Fridley also have children going to Adams School,
they realized this affected the northern end of Fridley also.
Mr. Langeafeld stated that from a political standpoint, it was his opini.on
that Blaine would benefit from the moving of Highway 10. 47as [his true? '
Ms. Sporre stated that on Thursday, July 10, at 8:00 p.m., Blaine is having
a pubiic hearing on their new c�mprehensive plan, This plan addresses the
whole transyortation system through and for Blaine, and the answer to
Mr. Langenfeld's question could probably be answered at that meeting.
Ms. Monritsen sYated she did not know what Blaine's official shand was,
but aL a public hearing at Westwood School, several people were very concerned
that the new relocated Highway 10 would cut the city in half. She believed
there was some mention that Fridley was cut in half by 6.94, and that it was
very detrimental to a city.
L�14VIRONMI�:NTkL QUALITY COt•iMLSSION MEETING, JULY 17, 1979 - PAGE .5
Ms. RiCa IClatt, 753 - 91st Ave. N.E., stated she lived in Blaine and she
was against relocating Highway 10. Her property borders Westwood School.
�ven Chough she does noC have any children in school, she is still concerned
£or ti�e welfare of her neighbors and young people. The air and neise
pollution was not good for them. She also felY it would fra�ment L-he
communit'y, She was also cancerned about the wetlands Chat would be
eliminated. She would like to see the area donated and kept as it is for
recreational purpose5.
� Mr. Langenfeld stated in his opinion, he could not see how con.tinued
expansicn would not have an effect or. any creek, whether Spring Brook,
Pleasure Creek, etc. He would like to see this heavily addressed in an
environmental impact statement.
The question was aske3 of the Commission if the City of Fridley moniCorel
the creeks for polluCion, Spring Brook in particularY
Mr. Langenfeld stated he had no information on actual tests.
Mr, Aora seated that the CiCy did testing once on Spring Brook.
P70TION BY 1NS, SPORRE, SECOt�TDF.D BY MS, TLFTCAJ.F, TG REQUEST FOR THE 2�,X'!'
MEETING THAT CTTY Si�IFF GIVE THE E�VZP.ONMENTAL OUl�i,ITY CO�SSIOP: THr� DAT.
i'6i,F' "-u:, �
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'Yy "�hiA T.±():)SLX .
The Commissioners al�� would lik� to la.ow if ceeti.n� was dcne on a.l.l
F-ridley waters. I£ so, the frequency of testing and ho�a tiie 4�a1-er yuality
standards are checked.
Ms, Sporre asked who decides to give the public expendit'ures for the
construction of T.H, 10?
T1r. Deblon StaCed the Commissioner of the Department of Transportation
makes the ultimate decision on T.H. 10.
�Mr. Hora stated that the Minnesota Environment-al Quality Board of the State
of Minnesota will rule on the adequacy of the EIS.
The question was also raised.about £unding for the constr.uction of T.H. 10.
Ms. Mouritsen stated that Marsha Bennett menGioned at the MnUOT and
MeCropolitan Council meeting on Highway i0 that all the state funding
had not yet been allocated or was available foy: Hi.ghway 10,
MOTION BY MR. PETERSON, SECONDED BY MS. SPORRE, TD DIRECT CiTY STAFF TO
FiND OUT WIIe6T FUNDING ALLOCATIONS ARE SET ASIDE AT TFiE PRESEIdT TIPSE FO1
T.H. 10_ IF TI�IE TinN�Y T1aAT iS AVAIT,ART,r IS AilFniiATF.. TR hf(1RF, FTl'N�TN(; 7S
[JHO MAh'ES THE IP TIMAT� DECISION IN THE PROCESS AND
DECISION�S WI7.L RE MADF.. � -
. . . . ,.,�.;ry.
ENVIRONMRNTAL qUAIITSi COtR�TISSION MEETING JULY 17 1979 - PAGE 6
Mr, lleUlon seated that because of the staff workload, if the Commissirniers
could heZp in this area, their help would be wel.comed.
Mr. Hora staeed he would itnd out whaL- he could about the EIS process and
would try to obLain some more copies of the �IS.
:D UECLRRED 7
Ms. Neecalf asked the Lollowing two questions of the citizens at the meeting:
1. Any feelings on general expenditurE of money on tax money,
gasoline taxes; etc.?
2. Is the money in the Department of Transportation being used
for continual or additional highway development, rather than
for mass tran�it?
Mr. William Rademacher, 1037 - 86th Ave. N:T+T., Coon Rapids, stated that he
felt they a*ere going through a classic example right now with [he gasoline
shortage, and this was just a drop in �he bucket ot things yet to come.
They were all going to have L'o curtail theic use of automobiles and rely
more and more on mass transit. With the millions of dollars this Highoray 10
project was going Co cost, the Department of Transportation could buy more
buses and put up a monorail, a n�ople mover, or whatever. If the Department
of Transpora�ioZ clecides to g,o ahead au1 build thi.� highcaay and people find
they cannot afford to dr.ive their cars, the road �aill still have to be paid
ior and gasoline L-axe� wi11 be raised.
Ms. Evenson etated she felt the bi.ggest pr.ohlem �oith mas� transit right noo�
was the lack of an east/west system. That coou�d elicninate a lot of people
on lii.ghway 10.
Ms. Mourits�n stated that one other thing brought up at the public hearing
on High..�a; 10 was that noise monitoring was done between the hours of 9:00 a.m.
and 3;40 p.m., and at those times, it did come within the state standards.
There were no rush hour readings, She stated they were also vezy concerned
about the access to Westwood School, and that concern had not been addressed.
Mr. Deblon referred to page 156 of the �IS: "The existing noise levels of [he
receptcrs were determined by monitoring and/or using a highway noise
prediction model. A noise monitoring was conducted at 19 of the receptors
, There£ore, �E the noise levels
on average wee�:days between 9:00 a.m, and 3:00 p.m.
�uece above state standards bet�aeen 9:00 a,s. and 3 p,m „ it woul.d be woise..at p.eak t�7nes
2. CONTINUED; DISCUSSION ON FIRST LEVEL
G1�:�[cil
Mr. Deblon stated that the Commission had made a motion at their last
meeting to have Staff find out why Fridley had not been notified of the
x°port and to remind the consultant that Pridley was concerned and would
like to be informed and receive all reports.
ENVIRONNJib1TAL QUEsLITY COMMISSION MEF.TING�JUT.Y 17, 1979 - PAGE 7
Mr. DebLon stated he had talked to Chuck Nudrlilc�. project Manage't of
MnDOT and informed him of L-his.
Mr. DebLon stated there is a new enviroiw�ental impact atatemet7t review
prflcess as determined by theCouncil on Envi.r,ormenta7. QualiC}r, Natipnal �nvixon-
q�ental Policy Ac4, to have a first level evalution, It i.s a more lengthy
process, but a Uctter one for citizens to get involved. The ultimate goal
is one of ear7.y and continuing involvement and the early identification of
potential confJ.icts.
Ms, Evenson slated they had some of the same concerns,plus more, for the
Nozthtown Corridor tl7an they did for T.H. 10. They wanted Frid?.ey's concern,
noC only environmentally, but also socially. The Coon Rapid children and
the Fridley children play Cogether and go to school together. She statecl
she is opposed to the whole thing.
Ms. Mouritsen stated'they were not completely opposed to it in the beginning,
but as they were given less and less alternaCives and were told it would be
a six-lane freeway and Uridge, per Mr. Wa1sh of Che SRW, they began to oppose
it.
Ms. Evenson ctar_ed they found Chzt nost of the infarmation in the "First
Level. Evaluati:on" came from the "19�3 T.'erthtown Study" and mosl of that
information. caas no:o outdated, mai::ly because of, the g;asoline shortt..�e.
She thouEht sv�ne kin� of mass transit shnuld be considereil ior cra,sing th�
river.
Pfs. Sp�rre stated tliaL•
far it to be reasoxtable
CommiLtee.
THROUGH
1i��[�]
it seemed there were euocgh concerns a6out t.his issue
for Fridley to become a part of the North P4anagement
QF
CHAIRPERSCN
TO RECOMMEND TO CITY C6UNCIL,
IDL�Y BECOME 1 MEMBEh OF
DRCLARED THE MOTION
Ms. Sporre state3 it seemed to her Chat the City now has the need to review
the public commenC. If the City is going tc be.come a part of the North
Managemene Committee, iC would seem reasonabl.e that the City Council should
have the benefit of input frcm the �eneral public,
T1iROL�GIi
OF
SY MS
f�D
Mr. Langenfeld urged Yhe Commission memters and the ueople pr.esenC Co keep
up theiz concerns ancl try to get all the in£ormation they can so they oiill
know the states of whaC is going oa.
UPON �1 VQICE V(YTE, ALL VOTTNG AYF., CHAIRPER.SON LAATGBIdtELD DECLAR�D THE
MOTION CARR7ED LR�Tt�TIMOGST.Y.
i
EIdVIR0AIN�NTAL QUALTT.Y CONAiISSION NIGETING, JULY 17, I979 - PAGE 8
Ms. Sporre thanked all the citizens for their input;and iL the Fridl.ey
City Council calls a public hearing, she hoped they would brief themselves
on the f-acts and share tl�ose facts �oith �he City Council at that time.
Mr. Langenfeld also thanked the citizens for coming, inviting them to come
to any of the Commission's future meetings.
Mr. Langenfeld declared a 15-minute recess at 9:45 p.m., reconvening the
meeting at 10:00 p.m. �
3. T�.BLED: REVIEW OF REVISED COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT. PLAN;
MOTION by Ms. Metcalf seconded bv Ms. Sporre, to remove the "Review of the
Revised Comorehensive Development Plan" £rom Che table._ Upon a voice vote,
Ms. Sporre asked if the previous zecommendations £xom the Environmental
Quality Commissioa had been incorporated inco the revised Comprehensive
Development P1an.
Mr. llet;lon stated they felt they had incorporaCed a17. the vital comments
recommended by the Commission.
Mr. Langenfeld recemmended L'hat the Co�utissi.ou review �he foltowing sections:
"Envirom�ent. ! Pesources", "Oritt.cal Area","Trarsp�rL-ati.on", and "Land Uee".
Mr. Deblon stated that since an extensive reviesa ha3 azready been done on tt:e
P1an, he had hoped the Commiseiur. had read the seceir,ns psr.taining to
env3rvnmental Quality so that at this �eeting they could piupoint comments
and make recommendations.
Ms. Meicalf stated that in the "Overview" section, second page, last
paragraph, she felt there should be better definitions for the words,
"active use° and "passive use".
Ms. Metcalf stated that in the "Land Use" section, 06jective 1, the
secor.d paragraph in italics, she felt the wording was too flowery.
MOTION BY MR
NG ON MO.iD,4Y JULY 23 AT 8:00 ?.M. THE SP:CTiONS '1'O ri� ll1Jl:U5S8ll
BE "ENVIAOtdMENTAL RESOURCES" "CRITICAL AREA" "TRANSPORTATION", AND
USE" IN TH�4T ORDER. UPON A VOICE VOTE; ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSO
CARRIED
4._ oTHER BUSINESS:
In.answer to Ms. Metcalf's request about the location of. solar energy
homes in the City of Fridley, Mr. beblon stated �here was only one such
home and that was located at 451 - 54th Avenue.
ENVIRONfdENTAL QUAL,ITIC CCMMISSION MEETING, 3ULY 17, 1979 - PAGB 9
AD30URNMEI9T :
MOTIOId Uy Mr. flora, seconded by Ms. Spo.re, to adjourn the nieeting. Upon
a voice vote, all. voting aye, Chai.rperson Langenfeld declared L-he July 17, 1979,
CnVironmenlal Qua11Cy Couunission meeting adjourned at 11:00 p.m.
Respectfully subnitCed,
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Recording SecreCary
ENVIRONMENTAL QUAI�ITY COMMISSION AfLET2NG� JUZX 17, 1979
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SPECTAL
ENVIROn��tENTAL QIIALITY CONIMISSIOP!
I�IEETIIIG
36LY 23� 19?9
ME'i��BER5 PRESENT: LeeAnn Sporre, Bruce Peterson, Connie Metcalf
MEMB�RS AB5ENTs Jim Langenield, Narvin Hora
OTHERS PRESENTs Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Barbara Hughes, Chairperson Parks, & Recreation
Commissian
Bill Deblon, Assisant City.Planner
CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Peterson called the special meeting to order at Sb10 p,m.
Mr. Peterson stated that this was a sgecial meeting in order
to cover the Comprehensive Plan.
The Ca�amission mer�bers discussed the type of form�t they wou13
like ta follow for this meeting. The Commission decided that
everyone coul�i interject their ovan individuai commen�s, and then
have concurrence as a grcup.
I�ir. Deblon stated �hat the Parks & Recr.ea+ion Cornmiss?on had
approved, �nd passed on to the Fiu..^x.ing Cor:,.,�is�io.1 the Parks &
and Open Space sectior.. The Co�Tt�.unity i;evelopmen•t C�m.missien,
he stated, had passed on the Land lise, Housing� Tra�lsporta�tion�
and ihe Sewers section of the Comprshensive P1an. Because oi
this, T+ir. yeblon suggested to the Com�ission nembers, that tihey
pick thr2e other sections tha� they could cover this evening.
Mr. Deblon sL�ggested that they might want to cover Land Use,
Environmental Resources, and ;.he Critical Area sections.
Mr. PEterson stated that at the last Commission meetin�, they had
decided that they would cover Environmental Resources, Critical
Area, Trar.sportation, and possibly Sewers. It was his under-
standing, that the Land Use section was to be covered by the
Planning Commission.
Mr. Deblon stated that tha Parks & 3ecreation Commission had
found consister.t, thres oi the four objectiyes of the �nvironmental
Resource section N�ith their Farks objectives.
ENVIROSVI�'[ENTAI, RE50URCES SECTI033
[Y1s. Sporre stated that she felt the P2an Directicn should read
'Develop a plan 2or the consciouG management of the environment
�hat will enhance a.^.d protect the Natural Resources. '
5PE7I.AL L�NVIRONP;4ENTAL QUA7�IiX COP�i1y;ZSSION [siEETS1VG JULY 23, 197.9 - Pa�e 2
t�4s. S�orre stated that ehe �rrould like to have 'Natural and Social
Resources' stated, Pither in �he Plan Direction, or in the Objective
One. She further stated that she had been in contact with the
people in the P,linnesota Pollution Control, and they had given her
the definition of a Natural Resource as:"[dineral, animal, botanical
air, water, 1and, timber, soil, auietude, re�reational, and
historical features." S7ie �tated that it was her concern that
quietu3e should be defined as a natural resource, either stating
i� as such, or using the t�'iinnesota Pollution Control definition
of in�luding it as a natural resource. This she stated was her
reason for tva.nting to include 'natura7. and social resources'.
T�is. Metcalf stated that she felt that quietude is part of the
'natural resources,' zx�d that the word 'social', should not be
' included in•the statement. She further stated that it was not up
to this Comnission to beeome involved in the 'social' aspect,
as it was too broad.
�Ir. Deblon stateQ that it was his view, that the word 'social'
should be speZled out to read social and natural resources.
He stated that in an�nvironmental Impact stater,ent, this is
inclu�ed as the impact on the natural and social areas. He
further stated that he felt they were two di?ferent areas, and
sriould be dealt with as such.
Ivluch discussion ensued aa to the inclusion, or exclusion of th°
word 'social'.
Nis. Sporre s�azed �hat under the Goal, she wauld Iike it to read:
"De•relop a plzz2 for the conscious man�;,ement of the enviroruaent,
that presarves a.nd enhances the City'� natural rasources� and
mravides citizer.s with a bet�er understanding, and appr�ciation,
of the natural envircnment."
Ms. Sporre s'�ated that under Objective One, poiicy Three, she
�•aanted the sentence 'and proruota complete compZiance with the
Minnesota statute �105.41, and �;`10$.42, regarding Public i��Iaters
Act, t� be added.
1�7s. 5porre stated that under Objective One, Policy Four, she
vranted the santence 'and the enforcement of these standards
thru adequate planning, and monitoring, and enforcement.'
Ms. 5porre stated that for the record, she wanted to say that"as
a little girl, she thought the City Comr,�issions, and the -0 ity
Council were staff dominated, and now that she is not a little
girl, she ihinks its time for the pecple to have their say."
She further stated that she believes "that the people want
quietude, and the public waters of the Citiy retained." She
stated that she would like to see them included in the Plan,
axid if they were to be deieated that it so be recorded.
Ms. Sporre, and DZr. Peterson concurred that these sentences be
amended to Policies Three and Four. itis. 1�Tetcalf opposed the
amendments to Objective One, Policy Three and Four.
The Commission questioned as to why under Land L'se, �bjective Three,
and Four were the sar.�e? ' � •
Mr. Deblon stated that Objective iour, under Land Use, was in
error, and that the Commission should d�lete a11 of Objective
�our as it is written. Objective r'our should be corrected to
read 'Encourage appropriate land use combinations.'
Ms. Sporre suggested that this stater.!�nt be placed under Objective
One, as a policy: "The city should oppose projects that have a
high probability of eminating noise level.s that could potentially
be injurious to human hea,lth, or welfare, to animal, or plant li£e,
or to property values, or that could interfere unreasonably with
the enjoyment of life or property."
Ms. Sporre, b1s. ti7etcalf, and Mr. Peterson concurred that this
stater�ent should b2 included under Objective One, and labeled
as kolicy Five. The following policies would then be renumbered
appropriately. '
Tr'Is. Sporre stated that she also would want this statement to be
includeds "that until there is sufficient data dem�nstrating that.
injurious noise levels have been overcome on existing airport, and
freeway facilities, that the City should oppose such facilities."
ids. Metcali, and t�ir. Peterson apposed this statement to be included.
Ms. Sporre stated that she had written another Qbjective that
would be included in the Environn�ental Resource section, this
Objective,vrould read as fallows: "The �ity weuld preserve as
much as possible the ex_isting tree cover as a natural resourca
�lnenity." This statet�ent would than be followed by a Policy
which should read: "In order.to encoura..ge preser��ation of the
existing tree cover for ecoiogical, recreational, and aesthetic
functions, the City sha_7.1 develop a woodlands preservatior.
ordina,nce. "
The Commission m2mbers concurred that these statements should be
included, but they should be listed and labeled as Policy "ix,
A. azid Policy 5ix B., under Objective Qne.
Under Objective One, Poiicy 9 A., .T�s. Sporre suggested that this
statement include 'Springbrook Creek.'
The Commission members concurred that this should be included.
Under Objective Two, Iu�s. Sporre stated that she would like the
word `or' deleied. -
Under Objective Three, Ivls. Sporre suggested that the italized
paragraph, have deleted the first sentence.
Under Objeo�ive Four, Policy One, "The City should promote",
should be included, Ms. Sporre subgested..
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Under Objective Four, Policy �2, Ms. Sporre wanted deleted the words
'd.oes not support', and the words 'The City should oppose°,• be used�
replacing it.
Mr. Peterson concurred with Ms, Sporre that this should be changed.
Ms. Metcalf abstained.
Mr. Peterson suggested that a11 0£ Objective Three of the Sewer
section be placed under Objective Four of the Environmental
liesource section.
Mluch discussion ensued about where would be the most appropriate
and logical area for 'Solid [4aste' to be placed.
The Commission members decided that this should be cross-referenced
under Objective Four of the �nvironmental Resource`s section.
Mr. Peterson suggested that the heading should be changed from
'Sewers', to 'rJater and Vlaste'.
Ms. Sporre stated that under the Environmental Resources Inven-
tory section, the heading o£ 'Natural �Jatercourses-udater Bodies'
the last paragraph that begins with 'other', should be changed to
read: "Other water courses located in the City of Fridley,
include 5tonybrook, Spring Brook, and Oak Glen Creek, including
the length, size of the 4Vatershed, and velocity limitations due
to the soil conditions of each of these creeks."
�Is. Sporre suggasted to ivIr. Beblon, that she would like to see
the sentence in the Inventory that states: "Those tree stands
on undeveloped property will undoubtedly be removed." oe deleted.
CRITICAL ?REAS SFCTI�JN
' Mr. Deblon suggested to the Com�ission members that under the
- Plan Direction, the first para,,raph, and the last sentence the
word'raaximize' should be changed to 'optin,um'.
The Commission concurred that this word should be changed.
Und.er Objective Two, Ms. 5porre stated that she would like the
word 'or' �eleted.
D9s. NIetcalf stated that under Objective One, Policy 1D., she
would like to have the word'aesthetic " del2ted, and the word
'river' substituted.
Under Objective Two, Policy 1G., the word'encour2ge' should be
deleted, and the word'allow' be placed there.
MOTION was made byl+is. Metcalf, seconded by �is. 5porre to re-
commend that the Comprehensive Plan, a� anended be sent to the
Planning Commission, with the stipulation that there is no approval
of the mapping section as yet, aXid also the amendments are
subject to approval of the minutes of this meeting. Upon a
ENERGY PRQTF.CT COMM]:TTEE -
MEETING
JULY 24 1979
CALL TO ORDER•
Chairperson Jim Langenfeld called the meeting to order at 7:39 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Sim Langenfeld, Dean Saba, Giles McConville, Donald Wall,
Bill Wharton
Members Absent: Betty Enkhaus, Dennis Anderson
APPROVAL OF MAY 22 1979 ENERGY PR0.TECT COMMITTEE MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Wall, seconded by Mr. McConville, to approve the May 22, 1979,
Energy Project Committee minutes as written. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, Chairperson Langenfeld declared the motion carried unanimously.
DISCUSSIOI3 AND FINALIZATION OF ENERGY POLICY:
Mr. Langenfeld stated that he had enjoyed working with all the Co�tittee
members and thanked them for all their work.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that the May Energy Project Co�ittee meeting minutes,
along with Proposal A and Proposal B,had gone to the Planning Cou�ission
on June 6, 1979. Mr. Langenfeld stated that the Planning Commission had
liked the energy policy, but had suggested a few changes.
Mr. Langenfeld referred to Proposal A, page 4, Item 7: "Provide the
City Manager, or other ofiicial, with the authority to declare an energy
emergency and implement the above procedures." He stated that the Planning
Commission had suggested changing, "Provide the City Manager" to "Provide
a policy maker" or something to that effect.
Mr. Langenfeld referred to Proposal A, page 4, Item 8: "Form a citizen's
group to assist the police and other City departments in the event of a
brown-out or other energy emergency." He stated the Planning Commission
had suggested a more detailed explanation of a"citizen's group".
Mx. Langenfeld referred to Proposal A, page 4, Item II-A, second to last
sentence: "A City Energy Administrator would be responsible for coordinating
the activities of each group and would serve as a focal point for information
cross groups. The Planning Co�ission wanted to know what the Energy Project
Committee meant in that sentence.
ENERGY PROJECT COMMITTGE MEETING JULY 24 I979 - PAGE 2
Mr, Langenfeld stated these were some of the comments made at the Planning
Commissimn meeting. The energy policy had not been discussed in detail and
he did not know when the final energy policy would be on the Planning
Commission agenda, but stated he would make every attempt to be at that meeting.
Mr, Wall suggested that the Energy Project Committee address each of the
qnestions raised by the Planning Commission.
Proposal A, Page 4, Item 7:
The Energy Project Committee changed Item 7 to read: "Provide a
desiqnated official with the authority to declare an energy emergency
and implement the above procedures."
Proposal A, page 4, Item 8:
Mr. Langenfeld stated that the Planning Co�ission just wanted to
know how the Energy Project Committee would go about forming a
citizen's group. Mr. Langenfeld stated he had mentioned the
neighborhood group idea. Some of the members of the Planning
Co�ission questioned how neighborhood groups would be gotten
together, etc, Mr. Langenfeld stated he stressed to the Planning
Commission that "it was NOT the intent of this Policy to formulate
precise procedures or to categorize specific actions based upon the
availability of fuels used."
Mr. Wall stated that an example of a citizen's group was the civil
defense block captains during World War II.
Mr. Langenfeld suggested that the Energy Project Coamiittee leave
Item 8 the way it was, stating that it was mereLy a reco�endation.
Mr. Saba stated that just coming up with the comparison to civil
defense groups duting World War II would give the Planning Commission
an idea of what the Energy Project Couunittee had in mind.
Mr. Saba stated that in the event of a severe gasoline situation,
some emergency things would have to be done such as emergency mass
transit, car pools, etc., maybe even getting involved in citizens'
groups, because police cars would not have sufficient gasoline to
do a11 the patrolling done now. The police might want key input
from citizens to help, possibly with a reserve police force. It
just depended on how bad the situation became.
Mr. Langenfeld stated it was also possible that the neighborhood
idea would work by having tteighborhood "captains" who could ensure
that their neighborhoods were policed, so police could go to more
necessary areas.
ECT COMMITTEE N,
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Mr. Wall stated he really felt it was up to the police or other
emergency-type unfts of the city to elaborate on this. He could see
the Energy Project Committee recommending something that the police
department would not want. On the other hand, they might have
some ideas as to how to mobilize volunteer groups,
Mr. McConville atated it sounded more and more like civil defense
with a different name.
Proposal A, page 4, II-A:
Mr. Saba stated that Hennepin County has an energy coordinator
and there was an article in the paper about saving several hundred
thousand dollars.
Mr. Wall stated that if Mr. Saba could locate a copy of this
article, it should be attached as a sample.
Mr. Wall stated that what he meant by "A City Energy Administrator....
would serve as a focal point for information cross groups" was, for
example, if a commercial gxoup found a way of blocking windows and
saving 5�% in energy, maybe that group would pass that information
on to the industrial group. This individual would be someone who is
involved with the state and federal programs and is really in a
position to advise these groups, particularly in aid for funding
and that kind of thing.
Mr. McConville stated that what was missing was the function of
stimulating interest among groUps to get them to Eorm in the first
place.
The Energy Project Committee made the following changes to II-A:
"Commerical, Industrial, and Institutional - Each of these groups
would be organized with their own energy 'association' for the
purpose of collective management of energy within their own
specialized field. A City Energy Administrator would be responsible
for organizing and coordinating the activities of each group and
would serve as a focal point for information cross groups."
Mr. Wharton stated that he was conaerned with Proposal A, page 4,
II, second and third sentences: "A central office should be
established to administrate enexgy concerns. The administrator
would have a variety of responsibilities such as...." Was the
intent to estabiish a separate central office fr� the city
government office7
The Energy Project Committee agreed to delete the sentence regarding
a central office and changed the third sentence to read: "A City Energy
Administrator would be appointed and would have a variety of
responsibilities...."
ENERGY PROJECT COMMITTEE MEETING JI7LY 24 1979 - PAGE 4
Mr. Saba stated he could see a lot of things the City could do to promote
the use of alternative energy resources such as bicycles. The Energy
Project Committee had talked earlier about computer parking lots and
bicycle racks, There were a lot of stores around the City that actually
discouraged bicycling because there are no bike racks.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that would be a good job for a city energy administrator.
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Mr. Langenfeld asked the Committee members if they would be interested in
serving if the Committee ever became an ongoing commission.
Mr. Wall, Mr. Wharton, Mr. McConville, and Mr. Saba all indicated a willingness
to serve on an enezgy commission.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that the Energy Project Committee members were a group
of very knowledgeable people, and stated he would speak very strongly in
favor of an energy commission.
Mr. Saba stated there was a lot of work that could be done by an energy
commission. There were a lot of recommendations within the policy that
had to be made by somebody, whether it was an energy commission or the
City Council.
AATOURNP�NT:
MOTION by Mr. Wharton, seconded by Mr. McConville, to adjourn the meeting
Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, Chairperson Langenfeld decZared the
July 24, 1979, Energy Project Committee meeting adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
Respectful2y submitted,
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Recording Secretary
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Energy Project Covmiittee
July 24, 1979
INTRODUCTION
The Energy Project Committee is established for the purpose of
providing recommendations to the Planning Co�ission for the establishment
of a City Energy Policy for the promotion of energy conservation in the
City of Fridley.
The United States cannot long maintain the growth rate ot recent
years in our energy consumption without major changes in our energy
supply pattexns.
Our Nation is faced with many problems, one of them being that our
government is unable Co move toward a unified, workable, productive
Energy Policy. Governmental units have a very significant role to play
in dealing with our energy dileamia, We, the Energy Project Co�ittee,
concur with the initiative taken by the City Council and Planning Commission.
The Ener�y Project Coffinittee fu11y supports the idea of conservation.
This Committee highly recommends that (through the Planning Commissionj
a resolution be passed by the Fridley City Council alerting municipal
employees and the citizens that energy conservation is the official policy.
Therefore, this Committee, hereby submits to the Planning Commission
the enclosed reco�ended ENERGX POLICY FOR Tt1E CITY OF F$IDLEY.
PROPOSED
CITY OF FRIDLEY
ENEAGY POLZCY
STATEMENT OF PURPOSE:
Energy Project Co�mmittee
July 24� 1979
This Energy Policy has been established for the purpose of providing
an-Energq Policy and Contingency Plan for the City of �ridley, Minnesota.
This Policq sets forth procedures for the conservation of energy,
particularly those souzces of energy wh3ch are depletable and provide
£or a Plan of Action in the event of an acute energy shortage or emergencj+
situation.
SCOPE ;
This Policy provides a set o£ guidelines £or implementation o£ a
Plan of Action to make the City of Fridley energy efficient. In a3dition,
it is in the public's interest that the City plan for and have the
capability to continue its services of providing protection of health,
safety, and welfare to its citizens. It is fi0T the intent of this
Policy to formulate precise procedures or ta categorize specific actions
based upon the availability 'of fuels used.
I. LOCAL GOVERI�NT & REGULATION
A. Operational Procedures
1. Establish energy efficient criteria relating to the city
purchases.
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Proposed City of Fridley Enerqv Policv Page 2
2. Energy efficiency shall be given priority in all ciCy
construction or renovation of properties.
3. Authorize an Energy Audit of a11 city-owned structures,
including feasibility studies for retrofit projects based
upon life-cycle-costing and establish energy budgets and
management programs to monitor and regulate energy use.
Seek funding for those projects found to be feasible.
B. Maintenance and Operation
1. Evaluate the placement and operation of street lighting in
view of modern technology, including a consideration of
replacing existing units with the more efficient high
pressure sodium Cype.
2, Consider a restriction on lighting of recreational areas
(ball fields, skating rinks, tennis courts) through the
use of time clocks, coin-operated switches, etc.
3. Install flow restrictors in, and lowex the temperatures of,
all city-owned domestic hot water systems in accordance
with the MinnesoCa Energy Code (ASHRAE 90-75, 7.4 and 7.7).
4. Schedule the maintenance and cleaning of all city-owned
£acilities taking into consideration peak-powex demand.
S. Raadom-Cycle security lighting should be considered for
use on all city facilities,
6. Minimize decorative lighting of city-owned facilities.
7. Prohibit the idling of city-owned vehicles when parked,
except for emergency vehicles.
8. Revise the snowplowing policy from "scrape clean" to
"make passaUle"
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Proposed City of Fridl.ey Energy Policy PaRe 3
C. Education
1. Initiate a training program for all city employees
concerning their job-related energy consumption.
2. Provide funding for the continual training of Fridley
Building Inspection personnel on the Minnesota Energy
Code and its revisions.
3. Include data on energy conservation in city newsletters.
D. City Rules and RegulaCions
I. Modify zoning ordinances to enco�rage energy-efficient
dwellings,
2. Provide for flexihility in building constructioa to
permit innovation for energy conservation and the use
of a2ternative energy sources.
3. Establish a city ordinance regulating the Solar Rights
(direct heatiag, wind power, etc.) of property owners.
, 4. Revise all city ordinances with viewpoint on energy.
E. Contingency Plan
1. Create a fuel allocation plan by the establishment of
departmental priority.
2. Adjust the operating schedules of City departments to
minimlze energy use.
3. Close all recxeational and other non-essential energy-
consuming tacilities.
4. Halt the use of all City-owned vehicles except emergency
un3ts.
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Pro osed Citv of Fridley Energq Policy Page 4
5. Concentrate offices and maintenance areas into closer
quarters so that resulting unoccupied areas can be closed.
6. Establish a City Ordinance regulating the operating hours
of retail businesses in Che event of a fuel emergency.
7. Provide a designated official with the authority to declare
an energy emergency and impl.ement the above procedures.
8. Form a citizen's group to assist the police and other City
departmenCS in the event of a browu-out oz other energy
emergency.
Ii. CITY COORUINATING UNiT - The Fridley City Government should prnvide
leadership to coordinate all energy activities. A City Energy
Administrator would be appointed and would have a varieCy of responsi-
bilities such as: (1) coordinating functions; (2) active participant
in State and Federal energy programs; (3) a focal point for the
purpose of lobbying for the interests of the various groups; (4) the
primary agency for other local energy concerns in the residential
sector; and (5) implementing an Energy Incentive Rrogram. Each of
these is descxibed in the following sections:
A. Commercial, IndusCrial, and Institutional - Each of these groups
would he organized with their own energy "association" for the
purpose of collecYive management of energy within their own
specialized field, A City Energy Administrator would be responsible
for organizing and coordinating the activities of each group and
would serve as a focal point for information cross groups. In
our view, the principal areas of interest are:
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Proposed City of Fridley EnerA Policv � Page 5
1. Co-generation of steam and electricat power
2. Recycle product
3, Uses of renewable energy sources
4. Energy audihs
5. Increased energy efficiency in space conditioning
6. Awards and incentives
7. Emergency planning
8. Loans, grants, industrial bonds
B. Residentiai Conservation - Assist citizens in monitoring and
applying for State and Federal Goveznment programs relating to
energy conservation in the following areas:
1. Insulation
2. Target-use figures / �
3. Renewable energy Sd/a�'/ i"'aoGi� w�n i
4. Puhlic information �/� ,( ''
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6. Energy efficient standards
7. Lighting
8. Loans, grants, volunteer programs
4. Recycling center
C. Transportation - To encourage and prosote energy conservation
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at the ��Q level, metropolitan leve2, and, if necessary, throagh
lobbying efforts at state and federal level through utilization of:
1. Electric vehicles
. 2. Car/van pools
3. Improved public transit
Proposed Citv of Pridlev Ener�v Policy Pa�e 6
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4. Bikeway and walking path improvement v''��-' �� f`? ; %� G'� } S
5. Loans, granCS, valunteer programs
D. Informat3on Resources - To promote and encourage energy
conservation through the following information resources:
1. Library
2. Classes
3. Newsletters
4. Technical information
5. Films
6. CfCizen awareness
7. Cab1e TV
8. Loans, grants, volunteer programs
9. Establish an Energy Information Center and promote energy
education through brochures, classes in public schools,
seminars, and co�unity education programs.
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APPEAI.S COMPdISSION MEETING - JULY 31, 1q79
CALL TO ORDERi
Chairwoman Schnabel caZled the July 91, 19?9� meeting of the Appeals
Commission to order at 7+30 P.M.
ROI,L CALI,i
Members Present: Mr. Plemel, Mr. Kemper, Ms. Schnabel, Ms. Gabel
Mr. Barna �
Members Absent� None
Others Presenti Darrel. C1ark, Community Development Administrator
APPROVE APPEAI,S COMPdISSION MINUTESi JIINE 26, 19?9�
MOTION by I�Ts. Gabel, seconded by Mr. Barna� to approve the June 26,
19�9 minutes of the Appeals Commission.
UPON A VQICE V�TE, ALI, VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIPQOUSLY.
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MOTION by Mr. Kemper, seconded by Mr. Barna, to open the Public Hearing.
UPON A YCICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SGHNABEL DECI,ARED THE
PI3BLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7�40 P.PQ,
Ms. Schnabel read the Administrative Sta:ff Report as fol2owsi
ADMINISTRIaTIVL- STAFF REPORT
5600-02-04-06 4th Street N.E.
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•tI A. PU6LIC PURPOSE SERVED [3Y REQUIREMENT
d� Secfion 205.073 {4,A) requiring a minimum frant yard setback of 35 Peet in
a roultiple dwelling zoning district.
_.Public purpose served by requirement is to allow for off-street parking with-
out encroachinq on the public right of way. Also for aesthetic consideration
to reduce the "building line of sight" encroachment into the neighbor's front
. yard. •
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APPEA�S COMi�iSSTON MEETIIdG� JULY 31, 1979 - PAGE 2
Section 205.073, (4,B1) requiring tv�o side yards, each with a width not ]ess
that fifteen feet, except where the heiyht of the building exceeds 35 feet,
one (1) additional foot of width of each side yard is required for each four
(4) feei, or portion thereof, of building height in excess of 35 feet.
Public purpose served by the requirement 9s to provide open space to tne sioes
of apartment structures: 5ittce normally an apartment's proftle is higher and
larger, a 15 foot side yar'd is required by the code.
B. STATED NRRDSNIR:
This site consists of i6,147 square feet, which is large enough for a 4-piex.
Because the site is long and narrow we cannot meet the side yard requirement
by two feet. With approval of the requested variances �ae can construct 2
three bedroom units, and 2 two bedroom units. Without the variances we could
not utilize this proper-ty to the hiyhest and best use of the property because
a71 fi'our units would have to be 2-bedroom units and there is a shortage of
3 bedroom tuck-under garages (rental units) in Fridley.
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVI.E41:
This lot is boarded on three sides by streets therefore mak9ng it a little dif-
ficult to place a structure on it without encroaching into required set backs.
The buiTding could be reduced in length by two feet, and in depth by 5 feet
to meet the code.
The front of ihe structure wiil nearly be in tine with the house to the north
side, which has a front yard setback of 30.80 feet. The structure couid be
moved south two feet however then it would only be 33 feet off the south line.
If the Commission recommends approval of these tvro variances requests the
staff does not have any recomnended stipulations for consideration.
Mr. Clark stated that about 1/3 of the lot was at one time right of
way for the i'reeway. That was processed through Council and through
legal proceedings and that property has now been deeded to these
properties to make them large enough to be utilized for a building
structure. Mr. Clark showed the Commissioners a copy of the survey
and pointed out that the right of way line was about lf3 of the way
from the west property line. Before the vacation, there was very
little property avai7able to build on. With the addition of this
property there is now ample space including adequate boulevard for
snow storage and green area along the curb.
Ms. 5chnabel stated tiiat she understood that the total square footage
of the property met the requirements of the City.
Mr. Clark stated that was correct and that 15,000 square feet is
required for a four-plex and this exceeds that bg•.1,147 square £eet.
Ms. Gabel asked if there was a drawing indicating how the building
would be situated on the lot?
Mr. Clark showed the Commissioners the drawing.
APPEALS COPU4ISSI0N PdEETiNG JULY 31, 19i9 - PAGE_�
Ms. Schnabel referred to the StaPf Report comments regarding the
height of the building.
Mr. Clark stated that it would be a two story building with a walkout
to the rear.
Ms. Schnabel stated that then it would be two stories facing 4th Street
and facing the irontage road to the rear it would be three stories
including the tuck-under garages.
Mr. Clark stated that was correct.
Ms. Schnabel asked what the height of the building wauld be?
Mr. Clark stated it would be about 20 to 22 feet high in the front
and about 30 feet in the back.
MS. Schnabel stated that �he Code requires a 15.-foo�.setback on
the north side and also a•35 foot setback on the��so�th
property line.
Mr, Clark stated that was correct.
Ms. Schnabel stated that then if they shifted the building for any
reason, there would sti11 have to be a variance on the south side.
Mr. Clark stated that was correct.
Ms. Gabel asked if there were four tuck-under garages and also asked
how much parking they have to provide for the structure?
Mr. Clark stated there were four truck-under garages and they were
required to provide 9 spaces, they would have 6 in the garages and
3 outside to meet the requirement. They are providing 12 parking stalls.
Mr. Richard Anderson, the petitioner, came �orward and stated that
he and his partner, b1r. R. J. Vesaas, were the owners and they were
in the process of purchasing the property. TrIr. Anderson showed the
Cominissioners a drawing oP the proposed building. Iie stated that the
situation they were confronted with was that they have ample square
footage for the building but they didn't have the length. The peopl:e
to the north of the property sit back about 30 feet from the street.
They would like to set their building back the same distance. That
would be a variation of about 5 feet. That would make them identical
with the people to the north.
Mr. Anderson stated that an o�fice building is located across the
street and also there is an office building to the east, To the south
there is nothing and to the west there is nothing. They are located
at the corner of University and 694. It is an open corner with streets
on three sides.
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Mr. P1eme1 asked if this same unit was located elsewhere?
Mr. Anderson stated they had built this same unit in Plymouth, North
St. Paul and also St. Louis Park, He stated it was a good looking
building. The other variance they were requesting was 2 feet on the
side yard. The neighbor to the north is approximately 10 to 13 feet
from the property line, so they would be conforming their setback to
the setbacks of the people to the north. The structure to the north
is a single family structure. Further to the north there are other
four-plexes and at the far north end of the block a car dealership
is located. So it is a mixed area.
Pds. Gabel asked if they would have an area for screened dumpsters?
Mr. Anderson stated they would at the rear of the property, probably
to the south property line.
Mr. Kemper asked if this was being built as rental property or if they
were planning to sell it?
Mr. Anderson stated it would be a rental property. He noted that it
Would have two three bedroom units_which are in demand.
Ms. Gabel asked if they planned ta rent to families with children if
they have three bedroom units?
Mr. Anderson stated that was correct.
b1r. P1emeZ asked what the rental would be for a three bedroom unit?
Mr. Anderson stated it would be about $35o.00 a month.
b4s, Schnabel asked what the width of the lots was?
Mr. Clark stated they were 40 foot lots and the total width of the
frontage was 120 feet.
b4rs. Dorothy Veres, 5608 4th Street N.E., came forward and stated that
she owned the house immediately ta the north, She stated that she had
no objection to anything being bui2t on the property but was concerned
about the setbacks. She did not want the proposed structure to sit
closer to the street than her home. She would prefer that the structure
line up with her house or sit back further.
Ms. Schnabel showed �1s. Veres the drawings of the proposed structure
and explained that the building would line up with her home if the
variances were granted.
D4s. Veres also asked about the freeway property being deeded to them.
She asked if the land behind them could be deeded back to her7
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Mr. Anderson stated the deeding back had occurred within the last
behindSherddeededgbackthaHet�th ughtsit�wou�dtbehpossiblee property
Ms. Veres stated that another concern of hers was the parking problem.
Ms. Schnabel explained that they would have parking to the rear and
that they were providing ample parking to meet the requirements of
the City. She showed ARs. Veres the plan indicating the plans for
parking.
Ms. Veres stated ihat she had no objection to parking in the rear,
but was cancerned about them parking in the front. Also, P�s. Veres
quesiioned the height of the building because 5he was considering
putting solar panels in her home.
Ivir. Clark stated that if the variances were granted, the building would
be 23 feet away from her house and about 8 feet higher. He did not
ieel that the building would interfere with solar panels.
Mr. Barna stated that she would have all the sun she would need and
there would not be a shadow.
Mr. Dave 0lsonr 5519 4th Street N.E., came forward and stated that
he was concerned about traffic and parking. He stated they had a
problem with the employees and clients of the dental office across
the street parking in front of his home. There were not supposed to
park there and it caused problems.
Ms. Veres agreed with Mr. Olson and asked what they cou2d do about that
and was concerned that the four-glex would increase the problem.
Ms. 5chnabel suggested that if they have a problem with traffic and
parking they could call the City and complain. Also, they could
look into have stop signs installed and also signs regulating parking
times.
b4r. Olson stated he would have no objections to anything going on
the lot as long as there was adequate parking in fi11e rear.
b7s. Schnabel explained the parking to him and stated the tenants would
most likely park in the rear where the garages would be located.
Ms. Veres sta�ed that she had no further objections as long as the
building lined up with her home.
Mr. Olson stated that if there was ample parking he would have no
objections.
MOTION by b9r. Barna, seconded by Ms. Gabe2, to close the Public Hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOh1AN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
PUBiIC HEARING GLOSED AT 8�30 P.I+I.
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bls. 5chnabel statefl that the petitioner had demonstrated
three bedroom units and agreed that there was a demand.
be no problem in renting the units.
a need for
There should
Mr. Kemper stated that they were concerned about two variances and
asked if the neighbors understood the variances and if they had any
objections to the variances?
Ms. Veres stated that she did not have any objection to the variances.
She had been under the impression that the building would be 5 feet
closer to the street than her house and since the building would line
up with her ho�zse, she had no objection. As far as the side yard
variance, she was concerned about wzndows in the building. Her living
room faced the proposed structure.
Mr. Anderson stated there would he no windows on that side nf the
building.
Ms. Veres stated that she wou7.d have no objections then.
Ms. Schnabel stated that it appeared that the neighbors would like
to see a building go in there.
Tdtr. Plemel stated that it was a nice appearing building.
Ms. Schnabel asked what the zoning was in this area?
Mr. Clark sta'ted that it was zoned R-3.
Mr. Kemper stated he would have no objection.
Mr. Barna agreed.
Ms. Gabe1 stated that sirce they would put in screened dumpsters, she
would have no objection.
MOTION by Mr. Kemper, seconded by b7r. Plemel, to recommend approyal
to`'�Gouncil of the request for variances to reduce the side yard set-
back from the required 15 feet to 13 feet from the north property line,
and reduce the front yard setback from the required 35 ?eet to 30 feet,
and that the building should 2ine up with the house to the north, to
allow the construction of a four-plex to be located at 560o-S602-5604
and 5606 4th Street N.E.
UPON A VQICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
MOTTON CARRIED UNANIP�ZOUSLX.
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Ms. Schnabel had announced at the beginning of the meeting and reiterated
at this time that the petitioner had requested a postponement of this
request for two weeks.
Ms. Gabel stated that the letter in the agenda mentioned three diagrams
and asked that copies of these diagrams be included in the next agenda.
Mr. Clark stated that they would have to be reduced and the printing
would be quite fine, but he would see that it was done.
Ms. Schnabel stated that she would like the file to contai.n some input
from the Engineering Department regarding storm sevrers and sanitary
sewers in this area.
Mr. Clark stated that he had comments regarding the storm sewers but
had nothing regarding sanitary sewers.
Nir. Barna stated that in dealing with thi� area before, questions had
come up regarding the sanitary se�vers and asked A4r. Clark to have
something regarding this for the next meeting when this item is
discussed
Mr. Clark stated he would look into that.
Ms. Schnabel stated they would like information reqarding the impact
on the load, the size of the pipes, etc.
ADJOURNIV;ETZT �
"MOTION by ivis. Gabel, seconded by Prlr. Barna, to adjourn the July 31, 1979�
meeting of the Appeals Commission.
UPON A YOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOfl�1AN SCHNABEL DELCARED THE
MEETING ADJ6URNED AT 8�39 P.bI.
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SPEQIAI, MEETING - PLANNING COI�ISSION - AUGUST 1, 1979 J
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CB7� TO ORDER:
Chairman Harris called the August l, 1979, meeting oY the Planning
Commission to order at 7�20 P.M.
ROLL CAI,L:
Members Presenti Ms. Hughes, Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenfe].s, Ms. Schnabel
Membera Absent� Mr. Oquist, Mr. Langenfeld
Others Present� Jerry Boardman, City Planner
Bill Deblon, Ass�e3ate P]anner
T. CONTINUED c COAiPREHENSIVE DEVEI,OPMEPiT PI,AN s
LAND USEi
Obiective 2. Policv 1-De
Mr. Treuenfels asked to what extend public tax money should be used
support private business?
Mr. Boardman stated that in some cases it would be very valid to use
public money to spur development because the return from the public
money used would benefit the community.
Mr. Harris stated that the Center City Project was a good example. '�
Ms, Hughes suggested they add one more item to this. "E" would read
as followsi "Plan and encourage the development of under utilized
residential land.'•
The Commissioners concurred.
Obiective 2. Policv 2�
The Commissioners agreed this should be changed to read as followsi
"The City should asaist business to upgrade commercial and industrial
areas."
Abiective 2. Policv 2-Bs
Ms. Hughes questioned the word"revitalization" and asked if redevelopment
wouldn't work better?
Mr. Boardman stated that "revitalization" is a broader term and would
include redevelopment and such things as a face liit, etc.
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Obiective 2. Polic.v 2-B�
The Commissioners agreed to ehange this policy to read as followse
°The City should continue to promote revitalization of i�ts commercial
and industrial areas through efforts like the Center City Project."
(Delete "key" and insert "industrial".)
Obiective 3�
B�s. Hughes reeommended the word "encourage" be changed to "permit
only".
Mr. Harris questioned whether we had the power to say that.
Mr. Boardman suggested they change the word "encourage" to"assure"
or "�nsure".
The Commissioners concurred.
Mr. Treuenfels questioned the word "control" in the statement under
Objective 3.
Ms. Hughes suggested they delete the sentence "Piecemeal urbanization,;."
l�r. Treuenfels recommended they keep the sentence but delete the
word "totally".
The Commissioners concurred.
Obiective 3. Policv 1:
Ms. Hughes recommended the word "promote" be changed to "permit only."
Mr. Treuenfels stated that Policy 1-B had the words "permit only" and
it was in rePerence to the critical areas.
his. Hughes agreed that would take care of it.
Ms. Schnabel stated that Objective 3 was not consistent with the
Introduction.
1�4r. Boardman stated they were rewriting the Introduction.
Ob:ieetive 3. Policv 2-A�
Ms. Schnabel asked if the performance standards and design criteria
would be set up in a 2oning regulation3
Mr. Boardman stated they rrould be.
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Obieetive 3, Policv 3e
Ms. Hughes recommended they change the word "modiiy" to "adopt".
Mr. Boas'dman stated that referred to the Center City for example.
They would have to modii'y design controls in those areas.
Ms. Hughes stated she understood now.
Mr. Harris suggested they delete the word "key" in Policy 3-B and 3-C.
The Commissioners concurred.
Pds. Hughes suggested the words "The City should protect and reinforce"
preface Policies 3-B and 3-C.
Mr. Deblon stated that Policy 3 should have the following statement at
the endr "These instances include�"
Mr. Boardman suggested they put a colon after the word "interest".
The Commissioners concurred.
Obiective �, Policv 4-Bi
Mr. Harris recommended they delete the word "key" in Policies 1+-B & 4-C.
The Commissioners concurred.
Mr. Deblon suggested they put a colon after the word "areas" in
Policy 4.
The Commissioners concurred.
Ob:iective 4�
Mr. Boardman stated this was a typing error and should read� "Encourage
appropriate land use combinations."
ObSective 4, Policv 1-Ai
Ms, Hughes suggested they change "encourage°`to "set" or "designate",
Mr. Boardman stated he would rather use the word "establish".
The Commissioners concurred.
Obiective 4, Policv 2-Ai
Ms. Schnabel stated that it didn't saund like they had a definite
time period in mind and asked if they couldn't tighten that up?
Mr. Boardman stated that it would be difficult to put a time limit
on it. For example, the Center City Project could take 15 yeara.
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�r. Boardman stated that the Community Development Commission had
recommended adding a sub-policy, but he would like to make it
Policy 4. It would read as followse "The City should take necessary
action to make land available for hausing units by re-evaluating its
present land zoned industrial."
Ms. Schnabel suggested they say "all currently non-residential land"
in order to include commercial land also. 5he suggested they sayi
"Rhe City should examine present lands not zoned residential to
determine feasibility of making some of those lands available for
housing."
The Commissioners concurred.
Ms. Hughes stated they should look at R-1 zones to go to higher density.
Mr. Boardman suggested they could make a Policy 5 which would read as
followsi "The City should examine the feasibility oY reclassifying
residential to increased density in certain areas."
Ms. Schnabel asked if there were any large parcels of vacant residential
property other than the Sears Property?
Mr. Boardman showed the Commissioners the map entitled� "Housing
Potential".
The Commissioners concurred with Mr. Boardman's recommendation.
Land Use Inventorv�
Mr. Boardman stated there would be some rewritea in the inventory.
He stated there were a:few .,' deficiencies here primarily in regard:.
to structure sot�ndness, conditions of buildings, condition of housing
in the City, etc. This is weak and will be redone.
B�r. Harris asked if the 95qb was a valid figure?
Mr. Boardman stated it was probably a little higher now and suggested
the Commisaioners look at the Land Use Map Plan 1990. This map gives
the layout of what the proposed land use will loak like. It also shows
existing land uses and what the land uses are in the surrounding
communities. He stated that the "1!"s indicated medium to high density
residential. Some are existing and some are proposed. Iie asked that
the Commissioners study them when they have time. He stated that the
School District had not yet made a determination but had indicated in
their Comprehensive Plan that they were looking at closing two more
schools. Therefore, Mr. Boardman put a atar near Rice Creek and Stevenson
Schools. They anticipated these schools would close by 1983. He stated
that he had put a"S" near Parkview because it is being used by the
School District,
SPECIAL MEETING - PLANNING COD�[ISSION - AUGUST l, 1979 - PAGE 5
Mr. Boardman stated that he had also put Gardena and Riverwood 3 D
Schools into residential land use. Mr. Boardman went on to explairr-'-- —
the other maps he had distributed to the Commissioners.
NATURAI, RESOURCES - CRITICBL AREA - PARKS� __._
Mr. Boardman stated that the Environmental Quality Commission and
the Parks and Recreation Commission had done extensive work in all.
of these areas and he recommended that the Planning Commission adopt
the amendments of the two Commissions. He felt it would be negating
their work for the Planning Commission to go through it as extensively
as the other two Commissions had. A summary of their recommendations
was distributed at the last Planning Meeting.
Mr. Harris suggested they go through it briefly to see if the Planning
Commissioners had any comments.
Natural Resources - Introduction�
Ms.Hughes recommended the word "civilized" in the last paragraph be
changed to "ecological". Also, she suggested they change the word
"conquer" in the second to last line to "alter".
Mr. Treuenfels objected to the word "alter". He preYerred the word
°¢anquer".
Mr. Deblon suggested the word "exploit".
The Commissioners concurred.
Mr. Deblon stated this introduction would be rewritten.
Plan Direction�
Mr. Deblon recommended the word "control" be changed to "management"
in the first sentence.
The Commissioners concurred.
b4s. Hughes stated they had diacussed the various categories and
definitions listed under Plan Direction and they recommended they
remain as they are. The reason for this recommendation was because
of the way Metro Council deals with this subject.
The Commissioners concurred.
Ms. Schnabel stated that she had noted that the E7ivironmental Quality
Commission had shortened up the first statement under Plan Direction.
After the word "environment" it should read as follows� "that will
enhance and protect natural resources from developments that may poten-
tially generate adverse efYects."
Mr. Deblon stated that statement would be followed with the following
statement� "These natural resources include:"
The Commissioners concurred.
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Mr. Harris stated that it sounded good, but how would they handle it_3 E
unless they rewrite their zoning code?
Mr. Boardman stated that was what they
required to provide a site preparation
vegetation stands, etc.
were doing. They would be
plan, prepare a survey with
Ms. Schnabel stated they should ask for a reforestation plan with
each proposal.
Mr. Boardman agreed.
Mr. Harris stated that the DNR had come up with some new ideas regarding
oak wilt and stated they should discuss that the next time they go
through this.
Mr. Boardman suggested the Commissioners review the recommendations
from the Environmental Quality Commission and the Parks and Recreation
Commission and make further comments at the next meeting.
The Commissioners concurred.
Chairman Harris declared a recess at 8i�0 P.M. and reconvened the
meeting at 8e50 P.M.
HOUSINGs
Introductione #3:
Mr. Boardman stated that the word "on" should be added after the
word "influences".
The Commissianera concurred.
Plan Direction� #1�
Mr. Harris questioned the term "private investment".
Mr. Boardman stated they were talking about seed money to encourage
improvements in neighborhoods and they would encourage the improvements
be done through private investment.
Flan Direction - #2s
Mr. Harris asked what they meant by "broader range of housing choices"?
Mr. Boardman stated they were talking about different types of housing
such as condominiums, ownership units, etc. They would like to maintain
a housing cycle from the first family house to the three or Your bedroom
house to a smaller house after the family moves out.
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Mr. Boardman stated that the Plan Direction in general incorporated 3 F
three main directions� Rehabilitation and preservation of neighborhoo�
a variety oP housing in the housing supply, and also providing resources
ior people who cannot afford housing to get housing.
Mr. Treuenfels stated that one of the reasons people were having
trouble staying in their homes was taxes.
Goal�
Mr. Preuenfels noted that the word "discrim�natory" was spelled wrong.
Obiective 1, Policv 1-B�
Ms. Schnabel asked how much of that was currently available at the
Public Library?
Mr. Boardman stated they had just established a Housing Resource Center
at the Library. They had given $5,000 towards books and materials.
On September 15th there will be an Energy Day with three consecutive
programs. In October, they plan to have 5 programs, one each week,
on rehabilitation and home maintenance. Zn the Spring they plan to
have one on landscaping and exterior development, This is all part
oY an expanding program on energy and energy conservation and home
maintenance.
Obiective 1, Policv 1-Ai
Mr. Treueniels asked what kind of housing improvement programs they
were talking about7
Mr. Boardman stated that referred to such things as tax increment
financing, etc.
bIr. Harris stated that was a high-minded policy but there was a pro-
blem. They were saying they were going to promote neighborhood rehab
and preservation through private investment and seed money. The problem
is we tax them for that and then we replace the streets and gutters
and then impose a�pecial assessment. It might be better to do it i,n
phases. First promote the neighborhood preservation and then a year or
two later, come in with the street improvement programs, etc.
Mr. Boardman stated they should consider the cost effectiveness.
Mr. Harris stated that people might not be able to afiord it all in one
shot,
Mr. Boardman suggested they change it to reade "The City should make
public improvements where feasible to coincide ...".
Mr. Harris stated that would help. He suggested they look at using
some of the block grant money for public improvements.
Mr. Boardman stated they could use 259L of the block grant money for
public improvement and it wouldn't have anything to do with low or
moderate income. But then they could turn around and if it has something
to do with low and moderate income, pay for the improvements through
utilities.
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Mr. Harris suggested they look into that.
The Commissioners agreed to having the words "where feasible to
coincide with" included.
Ob.iective 1. Policv 2e
�s. Schnabel atated that energy was mentioned frequently throughout
this but she was not sure how it related back to the Goal.
Mr. Boardman stated that energy was part of suitable housing and
living environment.
&Is. Schnabel stated that she wasn't sure that energy should be the
only focus.
bIr. Boardman stated it was the focus of the policy. He didn't see
any other area to include it in. It was a large part of housing.
Mr. Harris referred to the statement under Policy 2-B. The first
sentence of that statement woul.d require a major shift of City policy
to implement.
Mr. Boardman stated that it was the intention all along to go into
single family housing with this policy on a mandatory basis at the
time of sale. Thia is stated in Policy 3-A. Mr. Boardman stated that
thia statement should be placed under the objective. It is really out
of place here.
Obiective 2:
Mr. Treuenfels questioned the last sentence in the second paragraph
in the statement under Objective 2. He asked why condominiums were
not included in that statement. He suggested that they change quad-
raminiums to condominiums because people were more familiar with the
term condominiums.
The Commissioners coneurred.
Obieetive 2. Policv 1-D�
I�s. Schnabel asked about land write downs.
Mr. Boardman stated the words "where available" should be added after
the word "programs".
The Commissioners concurred.
Ob:iective 2, Policv 2�
Ms. Schnabel s�ated that this posed a dilemma. She asked if there was
a concern about the number of existing units being canverted to condo-
miniums.
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Mr. Boardman stated that this referred to new construction.
Ms. Schnabel asked how they would handle people who want to convert
existing structures to these same types of units.
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Mr. Boardman stated there would be some conditions and controls they
would have to look at.
Ms. Schnabel stated that her point was that some of these statements
may not be valid or might need som� redirection.
Idr. Boardman stated they were valid with respect to new construction.
&Ir. Harris stated that they had asked the Community Development
Commission to look at the question of eonversion.
Ms. Hughes stated that Policy 1 talked about multiple units which
tend to be rental units and Policy 2 talked about townhouses and
quadraminiums which tend to be ownership units. She asked if that
inference was correct.
Mr. Boardman stated that was correct. Policy 1 referred to rental
units and Policy 2 referred to owner occupied units.
Ms. Schnabel stated that if they were going to encourage this then
maybe they should encourage the conversions of existing housing too.
Mr. Boardman stated that was not necessarily true. They ca.ild achieve
a balance with new construction.
P�s. Schnabel stated that she still felt there was a conflict there.
N1r. Boardman suggested they �� ^D" to Policy 1_which_would rQa.�_a�_
follows� "The City should develop guide i e �or conversion of existing
housing stock." This would be added to Objective 1, Policy 1.
The Commissioners concurred.
Obiective 2, Policv 2r
Ma. Hughes stated that the words "the supply of" should be added after
the word "supplement".
Obiective 2, Policv 2-B�
Mr. Harris stated that this statement brought them right back to the
question of 40 foot lots.
Mr. Boardman stated that this statement was meant to refer to garage
requirements and those types oY things.
Mr. Harris stated that then they should say that.
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The Commissioners agreed this statement should be changed to readt
"The City should periodically review its residential zoning ordinances
in order to consider new approaches to the housing problems."
Objective 2, Rolicv 3i
Mr. Harris asked what they meant by the word "innovative".
Mr.Boardman stated that referred to housing different than current
housing.
Ob.iective 3�
Mr. Treuenfels asked what was meant by "composition".
Pdr. Deblon stated that referred to single-parent households, non-
related people,hous.eholds with children, etc.
Ms. Schnabel questioned the statement.regarding rental housing being
denied to households with children. She stated that some people pre-
fer to live in buildings without children and she ielt they-were
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Mr. Boardman stated that was discrimination.
Mr. Harris stated that it might be segregation but he wasn't sure
it was discrimination.
Ms. Schnabel stated there should be some flexibility.
Mr. Boardman stated that he felt the City should support open occupancy
legislation.
Ms. Hughes noted that it stated "improved access" not guarantee".
6b�ective 3. Policv 2s
Ms. Schnabel recommended they delete the words "owners and renters"
and insert the words "landlords and tenants".
The Commissioners concurred.
Ob:iective 3, policv ii
Mr.Harris stated that they had talked about doing that at one time.
Mr. Deblon stated that this referred to battered women, etc.
BHs. Schnabel recommended they alter this stateraent to readi "emergency
shelter and group housing".
The Commissioners concurred.
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Mr. Treueniels noted that Po1icy 9 and Policy 4 seemed to be related
and asked if #9 should follow #4.
The Coromissioners agreed that Policies 5 and 7 should be combined
and Policies 6 and 8 should be combined.
Housin� Inventorvs
Mr. Harris stated that paragraph 3 indicated the rate oi' growth. Para-
graph 4 states that by 1980 they would have a total population of 32.500.
By 1990, we would have a total population ot' 34.500. Household size is
dropping as indicated t�zrther down in the paragraph. Mr. Harris stated
it was not the same ratio. They would be going from �.19 to 2.85. He
asked where they got 2300 more units From that. He s#ated that if you
take the population of 1980 which is 32�$00 and divide it by 3.19 it
would come out to 10,188 housing units. Zn 1990 there would be 34,500
divided by 2.85 and that would equal 12,10,5 housing units. The difference
would be 1917 instead of 2300. Mr. Harris stated that was about 400
units less than projected and it could make a big difference on our
thinking about the zoning.
Mr. Boardman stated that Metro Council had said that we need an
additional 1840 units. We looked at it and we are looking at an
increase of 2000 people. If we have land a4ailable that we can
uae for the additional 400 and if we can support that many with
eraployment, why not4
Pdr. Harris stated that he was concerned about whether we actually
have the land to do that. If we don't need the additional 4d0,
we could make it less dense and do more with open spacds, e�c.
Mr. Boardman stated that they shouldn't take the figures literally
because Ehey are aoals based on projection,,,a�1d may not be reached.
Mr. Harris stated that without accurate figures, they could not make
accurate projections.
Mr. Boardman stated that they would have to look at these figures
because of lot of the figures were taken from the Housing Plan. He
stated that the problem with the projeetions was that most of them
were from Metro Council and they use federal projection levels.
Ms. Schnabel stated that when the census figures for 1980 come in it
will help considerably.
�Ir. Boardman agreed and stated that was �nother raasc�n �zhey �the� cou�cln�t
take the fi�ures '_iterally, The pYbjections were b�sed an 1�79.so the�.
wer� sQmewhat .iiiac�urate. �
The Commissioners continued to discuss the projections and agreed that
when the final draft for this plan is ready, the figures would be
updated. Mr. Boardman stated that the figures change all the time,
but they would update them at that time.
SPEGIAL NIEETING - PLANPIING C0�[ISSION - AUGUST 1, 1979 - PAGE 12
MOTION by.E�s. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to adjourn the 3�
August 1� 1979 meeting oi the Planning Commission. —
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRNIAN HARRIS DECLAHED THE MEBTING
ADJOURNED AT 10�30 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted:
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Kathy 5 lton, Recording Secretary
..
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PBAN�IN� COMMISSION MEETING - AUGUST $ 1
CALL -0 RDER�
Yice ha�rwoman Schnabel called the Auguat 8, 1979, meeting of the
Planning Commission to order at 7�30 P.M.
ROLI� CALL:
Members Present�
Menbers absenti
Ms. Hughes, Mr. Treuenfels� Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Hora
(Mr. Hora left at 9i30 P.M,)
Mr. Oquist, Mr. Harris (arrived at 7�35 P.M.)
&[r. Langenfeld (arrived at 9 � 30 P.&[. )
Others Present� Jerry Boardman, City Planner
Bill Deblon, Asaociate Planner
Dean Saba, Energy Project Committee
Giles McConville, Ehergy Project Coaunittee
1.. APPROYE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTESi NLY 25. 1979i___� __
y ats. ttugnes, s
of the Plannin�
Commission.
. liora to approve the July 25, 1979.
Mr� Treuen�els stated that with the exception of page 1 of the minutes,
h�s?name was misspelled throughout the minutes.
�ds. Hughes referred to page 6 of the minutea and stated that in her
motion, the word "recommend" should be "refer". Ms. Hughes also stated
that the 6th paragraph on page 10 which begins with "Mr. Oquist stated
that ...", the last two lines ehnuld read as follows "through the
County or 3tate agencies".
�s. Hughes also stated that on page 13. the second paragraph, the word
°vacationed" should be "vacated". Also on that page, in the 5th
paragraph, the word "dupster" ahould be "dumpster".
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTFNG AYE, YICE CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEI, AECI,ARED
THE MINUTE5 6PPROVED 6S CORRECTED.
2.
MOTIp�i by Ms. Hughes, seconded by A4r. TreuenYels, to open the Public
Hearing.
UPON B VOICE VOTE, ALL YOTING AYE, VICE CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED
THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 'Ji35 P.M.
PLANNING COIdHMISSION �EETING, AUGUST 8. 1979 P6GE 2
Mr. Boardman stated that the church was located at the corner of
I�ississippi Street and Monroe Street. The church would like to
operate a day care center in their building. Staff would have no
problem with this request. Since the operation would include over
10 children, they would require 5tate and County approval and licensing.
Mr. Alfred Rejman� 633 Bennett Drive, came forward and stated that
his house was right next door to the church. He was not in favor of
the day care center because his wife works nights and has to sleep
during the day and he felt the noise and car lights from the parents
dropping off the children in the early morning would disturb his wife.
Presently, they'have a problem with cars in the parking lot at night.
The cars race through and make a lot of noise. He did not want to have
to listen to it during the day too.
Ms. Joan Finney came forward and stated that she had been hired as the
teacher-director of the school. The school would be called the "Rainbow
5chool and Child Care Center". The hours of operation would be from
6,3o A.I�. to 6:00 P.M. She stated that they would be putting in a
fence from the corner of the church building back to the storage shed.
This will keep the children behind the church building when they are
playing outside. She did not think that the children would be outside
playing before 9e00 A.M. She felt they would be outside approximately
one hour in the morning and for a couple hours in the evening before
the children are picked up. 5he stated that as far as the lights of
the cars in the morn3:ng, she had nothing to respond to that, In the
winter, there would be cars with lights on coming into the parking lot.
Mr. Harris asked what the ages oY the children would be?
B3s. Finney stated the children would be from 22 to 5 years of age.
Mr. Harris asked ii this waid be five days a week?
Ms. Finney stated it would. 5he also stated they would be licensed for
4�0 children and 30 of them would be day eare children. The other 10
children would be nursey school children and would not be there all day.
5o at times there would be a total of 40 children at one time.
Ms. Hughea asked what the status of their application was?
�Is. Finney stated that they were licensed through the Welfare Department
and they had already been out and had looked through the facility and
had given approval. The fire marshall has also given approval.
Mr. Haxris asked where the children would be picked up and dropped off?
Ms. Finney stated they would be picked up and dropped off behind the
building in the parking 1ot with access off Bennett Drive.
Ms. Hughes asked for a clearer explanation of where the fence would be.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 8, 1979 P6GE 3
�s. Fi�ney indicated to the Commissioners on the map where the fence
would be.
Mr. Boardman showed the Commissioners an aerial view of the area.
Ms. Finney indicated on the aerial photograph where the fence would be.
l�dr. Harris suggested a fence around the play ground equipment for
their own good.
ri7r. Re�jman stated there was a driveway into the parking lot which
runs right by his window.
A�r. Harris asked if they couldn't stipulate that the driveway be
closed during the week?
Mr. Boardman stated that they could require the church to put a chain
across it.
blr. Rejman stated that he did not see why a business should be allowed
in a residential area.
Ms. Finney stated it was a non-profit organization.
Mr. Harris stated that we do allow churches and their accessory uses
in a residential area. That has been our policy and he was sure they
would continue with it. He ilirther stated that if they close that
driveway, it would help with the lights and caxs and as far as the
noise of cars at night, Mr. Rejman could call the police if necessary.
Mr. Rejman stated that it was his understanding that the church was
supposed to put some plantings in along his property line as a barrier
between his yard and the parking lot.
Mr. Harris asked if a landscaping plan was submitted for the property
when the building plans were submitted?
Mr. Boardman stated that the only provisions he recalled in the land-
scapin� plan were for plantings along Bennett Drive. That would have
been with the recent addition. He was not sure about when the building
was first built ten years ago. The parking lot was part of the original
plan but he was not sure ii it was to that extent. It may have been
added on to at a later time when the new addition was added. It was
paved when the new addition was built.
Ms. Schnabel asked if Staff had received comments from any other neighbors?
Mr. Boardman stated that he was not aware oP any.
Mr. Bejman stated that if they would plant something along there it
would help with the noise, lights and dust.
PLANNZNG COMMISSION MEETiNG, AUGUST 8. 1979 - P9GE 4
%s. Hughes noted that Mr. Rejman had a fence there and asked what kind
of fence it was?
Mr. Rejman stated it was a 3� foot cyclone fence.
Ms. Schnabel noted that any shrub that would be planted would not have
any leaves on in the winter anyway, and that's when he would have the
problem of lights.
Mr. Boardman also pointed out that it would take quite some time for
the shrubs to provide any effective noise screening.
�s. 5chnabel asked if the day care center was sponsored by the church
or by a private organization?
Ms. Finny stated that it was sponsored by the church and run by members
of the church. The children would not have to be the children of
members but irom the whole community. It would not be restricted to
children of inembers.
Ms. Hughes asked who J. H. Roos was? He signed the petition.
�s. Finney stated that J. H. Roos was a member of their child care
board and also a member of their trustee commission. He was not able
to attend this meeting.
Mr. Treuenfels asked if the age restriction of 2� to 5 years was the
only restriction?
Ms. Finney stated that was correct. They would not be teaching religion
so there would be no restrictions as to religion, race, sex, etc.
Mr. Rejman asked if Fridley had any other day care iacilities?
Mr. Harris stated they had the Learning Tree and other than that only
small day care centers in homes.
MO�N by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to close the Public
Hearing.
UPON A VO�CE,VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8e10 P.M.
Ms. Hughes stated that she felt this was a valuable public service and
with more and more women going to work, it will be more and more needed.
She liked the idea of a non-profit day care center and one that is with-
in the community and run by people living in the community. Hopefully,
they would have the interests of the City at heart in terms of their
operations. They would not be likely to do things to antagonize the
neighbors.
PLANNING COM�IS5ION MEETING AUGUST 8 1979 - PAGE 5
Ma! Hughes also stated that they should have some stipulations`, one of
which would be to close the access near the neighbors property. Also,
they should be asked to keep the parking lot in good order. Chances
are they don't sweep it often enough since the plantings in front are
not taken care of very well. They may need to be asked to do that.
Also� they should be asked to make sure they don`t have the children's
aetivities close to the neighbor's yard. They have a big enough area
to avoid that.
Ms. 5chnabel agreed and stated that some consciousness-raising on the
part of the church could be in order especially in regards to the
problems of the neighbors. She felt the two of them could come to a
satisfactory solution. She stated she cauld understand the concerns
of the neighbor in terms oi working nights and sleeping days and the
church should be willing to elose oif that access.
Mr. Hora agreed.
Mr. Treuenfels also agreed especially in light of the fact that Fridley
does not have another day care center centrally located.
Mr. Harris stated that he felt it was a good proposal with modiiications.
He suggested a security fence around the playground equipment for their
own benefit. That kind of equipment would be an attractive nusiance
and the church would be liable. Also, something could be done with
signage for the egress off of Monroe Street indicating th�t pickup and
drap oif traffic should u5e the access off Monroe Street only.
Mr. Boardman stated that would be required anyway.
Mr. Harris stated that it should be stipulated. He also recommended
that the church put some plantings and veg�tative screening along the
neighbor's property line. He stated that they could possibl� do this
in a phase program with the fencing and driveway blockage being done
this year and the vegetative screening bei.ng done in the Spring.
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by tRr. Treuenfels, to recommend to
o�uncil approval of the request for Special Use Permit SP #'T9-09,
Fridley United Methodist Churche Per Section 205.051, 3, F, to allow
the church to have a day care center, located on Lots 1-3 and Lots 22-
25, Block 2� Ghristie's �ddition, the same being b66 Mississippi Street
N.E., with the following stipulationsi 1) the driveway access to Bennett
Street be chained off during the week beginning with the first day of
business= 2) proper fence of playground facilities by the first day of
businessi 3) the church plants a vegetative barrier between their
property and the properties located west of the church to be completed
in the Spring of 198�. The plantings will be approved by StaPP.
�s. Finney stated that in regards to the second stipulation, the church
Board had discussed that and felt that the fence would be more attractive
to children.
�r. Harris stated that by fencing it they were at least taking action
to prevent someone from using it. If no action were taken, they could
be liable.
Ms. Finney asked how high the fence would have to be?
Mr. Boardman atated that a 4 foot fence wou2d be adequate.
PLANNING COI�&[ISSION MEETING. AUGUST 8, 1979 - PAGE 6
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALI, VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRI5 DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIID UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Harris informed the petitioner that the request had been recommmended
to Council for approval with stipulations and would go to Council on
August 20, 1979, and suggested that all interested parties attend.
3•
Mr. Harris stated that this item was to be continued for two weeks at
the request of the petitioner.
�IOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by BYrr. Treuenfels, to continue the
request ior Special Use Permit SP �79-10, for two weeks.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARID THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4.
Mr. Boardman stated that page 23 of the agenda was a plot plan layout.
The plot plan indicates a building to the west which is 23X32 and that
building is not there. What they are planning on doing is splitting
off 20 feet o£ this lot and adding it on to the house to the west.
Mr. Boardman showed the Commissioners an aerial photograph of the area
and explained the situation more clearly. He stated that he understood
that any garage to be located on the property would be located to the
rear of the house�with access off Riverview Terrace. Mr. Boardman
explained to the Commissioners where the lot line would be.
John & Gail Estling came forward and showed the Commissioners a copy of
their survey which showed the lot line more clearly.
Ms. Schnabel stated that it was her understanding that the main purpose
of this split was to increase the size of the lot. She asked if that
was correct?
Mr. Harris stated that was correct and it would also give them more
parking which they need. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Boardman if 64� Way was
a dedicated street?
Mr. Boardman stated that he was not sure and that it didn't look like it.
He stated that they couldn't get a snowplow in there if they wanted to.
Mr. Harris suggested they look into that and if it is not vacated, we
should do it.
A�r. Boardman agreed and stated he would look into it.
PLANNING COM�dIS5I0N MEETING, AUGUST 8. 1979 PAGE 7
There were no comments from the audience regarding this item.
bi0TI0N by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to recommend to
GTOUncil approval of the request for a Zot Split, L.S. #�9-03, by John
and Gail Estling: to split off the Westerly 20 feet of Lot 1, Block 1,
Veit's Addition (6440 Riverview Terrace N.E.) and add it to Lot 2,
Block 2, Veit's Addition (6438 Riverview Terrace N.E.), with the
following stipulatione the 6 foot utility easement to the north of
the property line will be retained by the City.
Mr. Harris stated that it appeared that:t�e lot would be in excess of
9.000 square feet after the split.
Mr. Boardman stated that was correct and there was no problem there.
Both lots would be in excess of 9.000 square feet.
UPQN A V�ICE YOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CiIAIRP�AP[ HARRYS DECL6RET1 THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOU5I,Y.
Mr, Harris iniormed the petitioner that they had recammended approval
to Council and this would appear before Council on August 20, 1979. He
suggested all interested parties attend.
5. CONTINUE'De SAV #79-03. Ci2'Y OF FRIDI,EY & CONSIDERATION OF STATUS
Mr. Boardman recommended they ask the Community Development Commission
to handle the consideration of the status of unused alleys and also
that they hold SAV #79-o3•
tdr. Harris agreed.
H�OTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to send the consider-
at— i- o of the status of unused alleys in Fridley to the Community Develop-
ment Commission for their study and request that the Commission report
their findings back to the Planning Commisaion.
Ms, Schnabel stated that the Community Development Commissim should
have the direction and guidance of Siaff in studying this.
B+Ir. Boardman agreed.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALi VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DfiCI,ARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTION b Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to continue SAV
request �`7g-03 for future consideration.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, AI.i VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE �902ION
CARRIED tINANIbiOUSI,Y.
PLANNING COM@QISSION MEETING, AUGUST 8, 1979 - PAGE 8
6. CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARING ON COPdPREHENSIVE PLAN�
PBRK,S �
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Ms. 5chnabel, to approve the goals,
ob�ectives and policies as amended by the Parks & Recreation Commission.
Ms. Hughes stated that one of the things they added was an objective on
water and there was more emphasis than originally on natural areas and
environmental education within the realm of parks and recreation. 5he
stated those were the major differences. Also, there were a lot of
word changes.
Mr. Harris stated that he didn't get the feeling if they Yelt the
amount of park acreage was adequate.
bis. Hughes stated that they would like to examine that in light of
whether or not the Plan is going to be adopted with the additinnal
2300 units, She stated they were going to look a,t all the parks to
see if they should be designated as parks. The Shore is in the pro-
cess of being acquired between the County and the City. On an acreage
basis, the chances are pretty good, even at our fullest potential ior
population, that we will have enough acreage on that rule of thumb.
Whether they are all located correctly is another question and whether
or not they fit the classifications and the neighborhoods usage is
another question. In the implementation of the paxks and open sgace
plan, they expect to be going through and reclassifying where necessary
to change uses, having new parks and trying to make it a more usable
system.
Ms. Hughes went on to say that the only place she could remember where
they addressed the question of adequate acreage was in the Goal. She
had recommended they say in the Goal that they want an adequate park
system. She stated that she had originally asked the Park Commission
to add a statement on need of a cettain number of acreas per population
or something along that line. Because of the reclassification program,
they did not cDme up with that statement. She stated that they decided
not to add in a statement saying that they want to meet the national
standards mainly because we have a fair amount of County space in here
that we don't count in our park system.
Mr. Harris asked if they had considered the additional 2300 units in
their deliberations? He didn't get a Yeeling for that.
Ms. Hughes stated that in some of the discussions in the Planning
Commission that had come out and she did take that back to the Parks
and Recreation Commission and told them the things the Planning Commission
was doing that she felt would impact on the actions of the Parks Commission
There were several things she felt should be considered and the increase
in housing was one of them. The things she suggested they look at were
the housing and population increases, the changes in age classification
of people living here and the redevelopment area in the Center City.
That redevelopment area has had significant impacts on us. Ms. Hughes
stated that the thing she found difficult in the Plan was that they
really haven't gone a step further and said what our implementation
plan would be.
pI,ANNING COMbIISSiON I�AEE2ING AUGUST 8� 19?9 - PAGE 9
bllz�. Boardman stated that when we look at this and set up the classifi-
cation system we are setting it up on acreage. In other words, we are
saying what regional parks should be, wha� community paxks should be,
etc. This is an attempt to try to maintain a park system that will
fall within that goal. In other words, if we want to adopt a park system
that will meet these standards then we will probably have to look at
increasing areas when and where possible. The main thing we do is
allocate by neighborhood. in our Park Map, In the Map we show those
parks that should be classified as neighborhood parks� although they
may be s�all in some areas based on national standards for park facilities.
But they are all we have and fit the function of a neighborhood park.
50 our park system shows them as neighborhood parks� and when and where
pessible if land becomes avaiZable� they should be expanded to service
neighborhood park facilities or service neighborhood park functions.
However they would still hsve to function as neighborhood park facilities.
This is the reason we classify some parks as neighborhood parks and
some as mini parks or service parks.
Mr. Harris stated that he was looking for a statement in the Park
Plan to the effect that if the City went into any major rezoning project
for housing that adequate park space would be acquired in that rezoning
to service that neighborhood.
Mr. Boardman stated that would be covered under Objective 1, Policy 3.
Ms. Schnabel stated that Policy 9-C states they should release excess
property� but it doesn't address the reverse.
Mr. Boardman referred to Policy }B and stated that should cover it.
The words "and to the City as a whole" would be added to that Policy.
Mr. Harris stated that he wanted emphasis that the City will acquire
park land if we develop 230� more units.
Ms. Hughes stated that Objective 1 and the Goal address that and take
it into consideration. She stated there was commitment in the Park
Commission to follow through on the Goal and Objective. She stated
that the Center City is a good example. It is designated as a redevelop-
ment area and now is when we should be looking at the ihings we will
have to put in there.
Ms. Schnabel asked Ms. Hughes if she iel� the Park Commission and Park
Department had enough clout to get the park land they feel is needed.
Ms. Hughes stated that she couldn't answer that question.
Mr. Boardman stated that the clout was with Council.
Ms. Hughes stated that the Parks Department works hard and wants an
A-1 park system.
PLANNING COMbtISSION MEETING. AUGUST 8. 1979 PAGE 10
a "D"
£ollowse "The City should ac
and new residential areas."
The Commissioners concurred.
ic��w��rolild read as
e park acreage in redeveloped
Mr. Boardman stated that then we should look at our platting policy.
Mr. Harris agreed.
Idr. Boardman stated that it could also be a condition of zoning.
Mr. Harris agreed.
Mr. Boardman referred to Policy 3-C and stated that the excess property
they have looked at elimi.nating was the Cherry Lane Park behind Target
and the Jubilee Park in that same area. They ieel that Gak Hill Park
will adequately service that area. Another one that they were looking
at was the Riversedge Wa�y. The access is between two houses and doesn't
make much sense.
Ms. Hughes stated that she did not want Planning to look at that until
the Parks Commission had a chance to look at it.
Mr. Treuenfels referred to Objective 3, Policy 6 and asked what the
Parks and Recreation Commission had in raind with respect to cultural
development?
Ms. Hughes stated that was amended to include "cultural-development,
arts, historical preservation and special activities where possible".
This would include such things as painting classes, etc., which would
provide a wide range of activities and not just for children.
P�Ir. Treuenfels asked if there had been any cross-talks with the Fine
Arts?
DHs. Hughes stated they had not done that yet. She was hoping they
would get into that because they were interested in solitude and quietude
with the parks. She stated that was included in Objective 3 which they
had amended to includes "physical, social, emotional and educational
needs".
_ Mr D-b��n s�ted,that th�_had reco�nended that be added as Policy 8.
Ms. Hughes concurred.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CH6IRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION
TO APPROVE THE GOALS, OBJECTNES AND POLICIES AS ANLENDED CABRIED UNANIMOUSLY
ENVIRONPQENTAL RESOURCES�
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to approve the
En orivTnmental Resources section as amended by the �hvironmental Quality
Commission in the minutes of their Special Meeting and also according
to the recommendations in the draft amendment.
PLANNING COPIIMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 8, 1979 - PAGE 11
Mr. Harris stated that he had a question on the Introduction.
�r. Deblon stated that the Introduction would be rewritten.
Mr. Harris asked if they had changed the Plan Direction?
Mr. Boardman stated they had changed the wording only to� "Intentions
are such to develop a plan for conscientious management of the
environment� that will enhance and protect natural resources from
development'that may potentially generate adverse effects."
Mr. Boardman also stated that the Introduction would be rewritten with
the exception of the last paragraph. In that paragraph, the words
"civilized" will be changed to "ecological" and "conquer" will be
changed to "e�cploit". The listing following the Plan Direction will
re�ain as is.
Mr. Harris asked if Objective 1, Policy 2 had been changed?
Ms. Hughes stated that her notes indicated that Objective.l, Policy 2
would be changed to readi "The City should adopt regulations to control
the amount and quality of urban runoff." Policy 2-A would remain the
same but a Policy 2-B would be added as follows; "The City should limit
development in areas which create urban runoff."
�r. Langenfeld stated that her svggested for Policy 2-B was something to
be concerned about.
Mr. Harris agreed but asked for a definition of urban runoff.
�r. Boardman stated that was a term used by Metro Council. Urban runoff
is in a developed or developing suburb as opposed to rural runoff.
Urban runofY is after developraent.
Ms. Hughes stated that Policy 2-A dealt only with Rice Creek Watershed
and she felt that they should say something for the rest of the City.
�.�Oar3man�a�e��Fia�-PoIicy Z wouid take care of that. Policy 2-A
was stating that they should work with Rice Creek Watershed and ;
neighboring communities to control runoff. Rice Creek was men�ioned -
because it is the only Watershed District they have to work with.
Ms. Schnabel referred to Policy 5-A and asked what they meant by
"sensitive areas".
Mr. Boardman stated that referred to environmentally sensitive areas
such as those listed after the Pla n Direction.
Mr. Harris referred to Policy 3 under Objective 1 and asked if they
were referring to the recharge areas for the City we11s7
Mr. Boardman stated that was not necessarily what they were talking about.
They were talking about wetland areas that provide potential not only
to our area but to other areas that utilize wells.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 8, 1979 - PAGE 12
Mr. Harris questioned that because our recharge areas are outside the
City and it didn't sound like this covered that.
Ms. Hughes suggested they make the word "supply" plural and change it
to "supplies".
The Commissioners concurred.
Mr. Deblon noted
which would read
the Public Waters
be Policy 3-A.
that there would be a sub-policy under Policy 3
as followsi "The City should comply completely with
Act, Pdinnesota Statute 105.41 and 105.42. That would
The Commissioners concurred.
Mr. Deblon stated that in Policy 4, the word "promote" should be
changed to "en£orce". Also there would be a sub-policy 4-A� "The
City should implement these standards through adequate planning,
moni�toring, and enforcement."
Mr. Harris asked who would enforce it?
Mr. Boardman stated that the Environmental Quality Commission was told
that enforcement would require additional man-power. The Commission
felt that it would have to be an executive deeision to add man-power.
B�r. Boardman stated that he agreed with the term "enforce".
Ms. Hughes noted that the word "should" was in there and also that
the burden of decision would be on the Council. She felt it should
be enforced.
Ptir. Boardman stated that he felt it would be a matter of priorities.
The whole Plan will be based on spending priorities.
Ms. Schnabel referred to Policy 9-A. She understood they were going
to add Spring Brook and asked if they wanted to specifically designate
those two bodies of water?
Mr. Boardman stated that those were the only two bodies of water that
the City was monitoring at this time. It does say "continue".
Mr. Harris asked about the other bodies such as Locke I,ake, Rice Creek,
etc. Why was bIoore Lake and Spring Brook receiving special attention?
Mr. Boardman stated that the sub-policies only bring out special emphasis
and were not the only areas they would be looking at. The main thing
is the Policy which would cover any body of water that required monitoring.
The reason Moore Lake is being monitored right now is because of the
swimming allowed there. Spring Brook is being monitored because of the
sensitive nature of North Park.
Ms. Schnabel stated that it looked like thoae bodies were receiving
special attention.
PLANNING CON�IISSION �EETING, AUGUST 8, 1979 - PAGE 13
Mr. Boardman stated that the River was being monitored by the State
and Rice Creek was being monitored by Rice Creek Watershed. The pro-
blem with Locke Lake is that it is being filled in with sand. It is
not a problem of monitoring.
Mr. Langenfeld asked how they would know if Locke Lake was being
polluted without monitoring?
Mr. Boardman stated a lot of times the pollution was visual. Also, it
is a matter of priorities.
Mr. Harris stated that he would concur with the Commission if they
wanted to go along with it, but he was not very happy with it.
Ms. Schnabel stated that somebody has to live with this.
Mr. Zangenfeld stated that the statement was not restrictive.
Mr. Harris referred to Objective 4, Policy 2. He felt they should have
a stronger statement there.
Mr. Deblon stated that it was changed to "oppose".
The Commissioners concurred.
Mr. Treuenfels referred to Objective 4, Policy 3-B and recommended the
word "should" be changed to "will".
�r. Boardman stated that all the statements should be consistent with
the use of the word "should" or "will".
Ms. Hughes stated that Policy 3 had been changed to "promote and support".
Mr. Harris reierred to Policy 3-A and asked why it should be limited
to residents. He suggested the words "and business" be added after the
word "residents".
The Commissioners concurred. The Commissioners also agreed to delete
the word °'assist" and insert the words "resource recycling, composting,
and eonrce reduction".
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, GHAZRbIAN HARRI5 DEC7�ARED THE &lOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Chairman Harris declared a recess at 10i0$ P.M. and reconvened the
meeting at 10:20 P.M.
CRITICAL AREAS�
Mr. Boardman stated that the Ehvironmental Quality Commission and the
Parks and Recreation Commission reviewed this section and had recommended
limited changes. He would like to see those changes approved.
PI,AAINING COPdMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 8, 1979 PAGE 14
Is3r. Treueniels referred to Objective 1, Policy 1-D and asked how that
related to the River area?
Mr. Deblon stated that they would develop river appreciation programs,
etc.
R4r. Harris referred to Policy 1-F and asked why that was included?
�lr. Boardman stated that it was allowed south of 694.
Mr. Harris stated that it should be a clearer statement to that eifect.
Mr. Boardman suggested they insert the words "where allowed" after the
word "location" in Policy 1.
The Commissioners agreed.
Mr. Harris referred to Policy 1-G and asked if that referred to a
barge terminal2
Mr. Boardman stated that they meant something like a marina, or something
commercial that relates to the river. He stated that there was a state-
ment later on regarding barge terminals. He stated that he would have
no problem with eliminating Policy 1-F and Policy 1-G.
The Commissioners agreed. Policy 1-F and 1-G would be deleted.
Mr. Harris referred to Objective 2 and stated that he had a problem
with what it didn't say. He would be opposed to the City acquiring
any land that is now developed ior residential use along the river.
It doesn't say they are going to do that but doesn't say they aren't
either. Policy 1-A bothered him.
Nlr, Boardman stated that it stated "where possible".
Ms. Hughes stated that she didn't see any problem with acquiring R-1
property if it was available and if it can be brought.
P�Sr.Harris stated he was concerned about the other alternatives. He
was concerned about condemnation.
Mr. Boardman stated that was possible but not always feasible.
Mr. Harris stated that he wanted to officially register his opposition
to the City acquiring any R-1 developed property �long the river.
Ms. Hughes stated that it should alsa be on the record that Mr. Harris
lives there.
Mr. Harris stated that it should also be on the record that the Mayor,
the City Manager, and the City Clerk also live there.
Mr. Boardman noted that they were not protesting this.
Mr. Deblon suggested they delete the word "possible" in Policy 1-A and
insert the word "available".
Mr. Harris agreed.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AIIGUST 8 1979 PAGE 15
Ms. Hughes stated that she did not think they were looking at condem-
nation in the foreseeable ih�ure but did not want to close the door
either.
Mr, Harris stated that all the land along the river was zoned for
residential and multiple and there was no vacant land for access.
The access is limited.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that he sees a trend where government steps in
and the common people have to step aside.
Mr, Harris agreed.
Ms. Hughes stated that it was a question of how �ou define "public good".
In some cases "public good" outweighs property rights. 5he did not feei
anybody was going overboard in this community.
Mr. Harris agreed to leave the statement as it stands but did want his
opposition to condemnation recorded.
Ms. Schnabel referred to the FA�C property mentioned in Policy 1-B.
Mr. Boardman stated that was undeveloped property and when it was
developed, they were looking at access along the river. He a2so stated
that the Riverview Heights Park is in the flood plain and they were
l.00king at acquiring that for access into the river,
A4s. 5chnabel stated that the difference was that the Park was already
City property but FNIC was not. It is not consistent with the statement
in Policy 1 which reYers to publicly owned.lands.
Mr. Boardman agreed that was a good point. He recommended they delete
the reference to FNIC property.
The Commissioners concurred.
Mr. Treuenfels stated that he would like the FMC property incorporated
in a policy someplace in here.
Ms. Hughes recommended they add it as another policy or make it Yolicy 2.
Mr. Boardman suggested ihey word it as followsa "The City should identify
and acquire and develop other available lands for river access."
___ Mr. Harris stated that was not consistent with the Housing Policy.
1'dr. Boardman stated that it didn't mean they had to acquire the whole
property, just a portion for access.
Mr. Harris stated that he had no objection to the FMC property.
Mr. Treuenfels asked what constitutes "available" land?
Mr. Boardman stated that meant land for sale or land with a willing
seller.
PI,6NNING COMMISSION MEETIPIG. AUGUST 8. 1979 PAGE 16
Mr. Harris referred to Policy 7-G.
I�r. Boardman stated that they changed "encourage" to"allow".
ARr. Harris stated that he had reservations about tree cutting on the
river banks. F3e was concerned about erosion.
Mr. Boardman stated that this was restricted to pruning, not clear
cutting.
Ms. Schnabel noted that Objective 2, Policy 2-B prohibited barge
ileeting areas.
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to approve as amended,
the section on Critical Areas in the Comprehensive Plan.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALI� VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRZS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIBQOUSLY.
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by P+Ir. Langenfeld, to continue the
discussion on the Comprehensive Plan.
UPON A VOTCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPQAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSI,Y.
7. CONTINUEDt PROPOSED CHANGES TO CIi�PTER 205 ZONING�
OM TION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to continue the
discussion on Chapter 205 Zoning.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALZ, VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECI,ARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMiSSION b4INUTED� JULY 17 1979�
MOTITON by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to receive the
Environmental quality Commission minutes�
Ivis. Hughes referred to page 3, second to the last paragraph, regarding
the statement by Mr. Deblon about the Spring Brook crossing. She asked
if that was what he meant?
Mr. Deblon stated th� referred to a crossing in Blaine.
Mr. Langenield stated that at the end of the minutes, it was noted that
they had an audience not only from Fridley but also from other communities
regarding the impact statement regarding Trunk Highway 10. We indicated
to them that we were not fully aware as to what was taking place. They
invited them to come again when more information has been acquired.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. AUGUST 8, 1979 PAGE 17
blr. Deblon stated that he had written a letter to the District 5
Project �anager and requested a copy oi the EIS for the Commission,
a copy of the final EZS, which will be available at the end of the
year, and also, a copy of statements made at public hearings, He
understood that a decision will be made within six weeks.
Mr. �angenield referred to page 7 of the minutes regarding their motion
to become a member of the North Management Committee.
�r. Harris asked for what reason we would want to become a member?
Highway 10 does not run through the City of Fridley.
Mr. Deblon stated that the Management Committee was not for xighway 1Q.
They consider them two separate projects. One can be developed without
the other. They could have the crosstown without the relocated Highway
10, and vice versa.
Mr. Langenfeld
to stay on top
He felt that a
meetings.
stated that the reason they wanted to be a member was
of the situation and to be iniormed of all meetings.
proper representative of Fridley should be at the
Mr, Deblon stated that the crosstown river crossing will effect us
direetly to sone extent.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, AZS, YOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION
TO RECEIVE THE MINUTES CARRIED UNANIbIOUSLY.
MOTION by IvTr. Langenfeld, seconded by P�4s. Hughes, that the Planning
Commissimi adhere to the Environmental Quality Commission motion to
recommend to Council that the City of Frsdley become a member of the
North Management Committee.
Mr. Boardman stated that all we could do was to request that the City
become a member. He was not sure that we could be a member just be-
cause we want to be. The Committee is made up of city personal from
the various communities involved. We could attend the management
meetings and the public meetings are open, but we would not have the
voice of a member.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL YOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE.MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSI,Y.
Ms. Hughes noted that there was another motion on page 7 regarding a
public hearing on the Northtown Corridor.
Mr. Harris stated that he felt this was premature.
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, that the Planning
Commission recommend that a hearing be called on the Northtown Corridor.
PLANNTNG COP�uIISSION MEETING, AUGUST 8, 19?9 - PAGE 18
Y��TION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfe2s, to table the motion
by Mr. Langenfeld to call a public hearing on the Northtown Corridor.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALZ VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
9. RECEIVE 5PECIAL ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTESs
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to receive the
July 23, 1979 Special Ehvironmental @uality minutes.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALI, VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE Ei0TI0N
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10. RECEIVE ENERGY PROJECT COP+TMITTEE MIPTUTESi JULY 24, 19?9�
MOTI�N by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. 5chnabel, to receive the
July 24, 1979 minutes of the Ehergy Project Committee.
Mr.. Langenfeld int�oduced IiEx�. Dean Saba and Mr. Giles McConville
and stated that he felt that they h.ad done an excellent job on the
�'nergy'Project Committe.
Ms. Schnabel referred to page 4 of the minutes regarding the Committee
continuing. It was indicated that the members were willing to continue
to serve and she felt it was worthwhile for the Council to consider
that.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that the Committee had indicated that they would
like the title of a full fledged Commission rather than a Committee.
Mr. Harris stated that he would like to think about that.
Mr. Boardman stated that making it a commission would involve a staff
person and offered alternatives as to how it could be handled. They
could transfer that function from one area to another. For example,
the Coramunity Development is an active commission and they coild look
at this as a role of that commission.
Mr. Harris suggested they think about it and put it back on the agenda
for futher discussion.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that the members would like to remain in tact.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIID .
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to receive the
Energy Project Coromittee Report.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 8, 1979 PAGE 19
T�r. Langen�eld stated that at the establishment of the Committee,
certain goals and objectives were set for them to address. One of
the end results was the Chart, The scope indicates that everything
has been addressed.
Mr. Harris stated that the Committee had do.ne an excellent job.
Mr. Langenfeld referred to the last sentence in the 5cope which states
it is NOT the intent of this Policy to formulate precise procedures or
to categorize specifie actions based upon the availability of fue�s
used. In other words, they weren't going to come up with a cure for
all energy problems.
Mr. Harris stated that he thought they had done what they were asked
to do and he was pleased with the results.
Ms. Schnabel referred to the term "district heating" under Residential
Conservation, and asked what that meant?
Mr. Langenfeld stated that a simple explanation would be using one
boiler to heat more than one building.
Mr. Saba stated that a local power plant could also be used in residen-
tial areas. He stated that 66� of the energ,y that the Riverside
Power Plant burns to make electricty goes up in air. That is energy
in the form of heat. If they could capture that heat and use it, it
would be quite a savings. It would be a more efficient use of water
heat.
Mr. MeConville_stated that the City of St. Paul was already using that
system in some buildings downtown.
Ms. Hughes stated that density was usually a prerequisite to doing that
effectively.
Ms. Schnabel also stated that she had noted that under residential, there
was no specific reference to solar heat. She asked if that was deliberate.
Mr. McConville stated that was because solar hea�, at this point, is
not practical.
Ms. Schnabel stated that she had noted that under �ransportation they
had listed electric cars first. She asked if this list was according to
priorities?
Mr. Saba stated ihat this was a list of things they might want to look
at and they might add to the list. It was not their intention to list
them in order of priority or importance.
Ms. Schnabel stated that she would be more comfortable if they moved it
to the bottom of the list.
Mr. Treueniels stated that he would like to take issue with that and he
felt it should remain at the top.
Mr. Saba reiterated that the list was not aecording to priorities.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 8. 1979 - PAGE 20
Mr. Boardman referred to the Transportation section and asked if
they didn't mean local level rather than state level.
�r. Saba stated that was correct.
Ms. Hughes referred to D-Information Resources, and suggested they
look at other things such as the Housing Resource Center or the new
Nature Center.
Mr. Saba agreed.
Ms. Hughes also stated that under Transportation they should also
be looking at alternatives to new road construction.
Mr. Saba stated that they had included bikeway and walking path
improvement to make it more practical to use the bicycle or to walk.
Mr. MeConville stated that they should start looking at bikes as
transportation rather than just recreation.
Mr. Saba stated that they should look at road construction at some
point in time.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to continue the
discussion on the energy report.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL YOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRI5 DECLARED THE MOTIOIv'
CARRIID UNANIMOUSI,Y.
11. RECEIVE APPEALS COA�MISSION MINUTESi NI,Y 24, 1979e
MOTION by Pns. Schnabel, seconded by Prlr. Treuenfels, to receive the
July 24, 1979� minutes of the Appeals Commission.
Mr. Harris asked about the request in the flood plain.
Ms. Schnabel stated that it had been continued at the request of
the petitioner.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, AI,L VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECZ,ARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12. CONTINUEDs DISCUSSION ON CONVERSION OF RENTAL PROPERTY TO
INDIVIDUAL OWNERSHIP PROPERTY�
Ms. Schnabel stated that no action was required here because it had
been sent to the Community Development Commission for study.
PLANNING CONII�I5SION MEETING, AUGUST 8, 1979 - PAGE 21
OTHERs
Mr.Harris requested that the minutes
the Planning Commission on August 1,
for the approval at the next meeting.
from the Special Meeting of
1979, be placed on the agenda
Mr. Deblon stated that he had talked with the Alderman and the�.r
Housing Authority had approved the revised ordinance and their"attorney
felt it was constitutional with the exception of some of the stipulativns.
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treueniels, to adjourn the
Au�ust 8, 1979. meetin� of the Plannin� Commission.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 1Qs00 P.M.
Respectfully subraitteds
/��.� ��4��
Kathy�elton, Recording Secretary