PL 10/03/1979 - 6663City of Fridley
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIN6 WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 3, 1979 7:30 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
1. CONTINUED• LOT SPLIT REQUEST L.S. #79-04, EDWARD T. BAULER:
Split off the Westerly 60 feet of Lot 14, A.S. #22, except
tbe Southerly 390 feet, also Lot 30, Block 2, Irvington Addn.,
and adjoining vacated streets and alleys in Irvington Addition,
to be soid as open space for an adjoining property> the same
being 1420 Rice Creek Road N.E.
2. RECEIVE HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUES: SEPTEMBER
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4. CON7INUED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZONING
5. OTHER BUSINESS:
ADJOURNMENT:
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HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MEETING
SEPTEMBER 13, 1979
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Larry Commers called the September 13, 1979, Housing and
Redevelopment Authority meeting to order at 7:50 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Larry Couuners, Russell Houck, Carolyn Svendsen,
Elmars Prieditis
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, Cit}� Planner
Dean Doyscher, Professional Planniag & Development, Mankato
APPROVAL OF .7ULY 18, 1979, tIOUSILdG & REDEVEI.�PN�iVT AUTAOKZTV MLNUTES:
MOT?ON Uy Mr. Prieditis, seconded by tlr. Houck, to app:ove the 3u1y 18, 1979,
Housing & Redeuelopment Authority (I�2:1�) ninutes as written. Upon a voice
vote, a11 voting aye, Chairperson Commers declared the motion carried unanimously.
I. CENTER CSTY PROJECT:
A. OLD RUSINESS:
1. Approval of Two Contracts - Staff Service and Cooperation:
Mr. Commers stated that these were the L'wo contract's discussed
at the July 18, 1979, ARA meeting.
Mr. Boardman stated thaC these agreements were modified based on
the recoum�endations made by the HRA at their July 18Ch meeting.
All those modifications were approved by the City AtCOrney. The
agreements with the modifications were sent to City Council, the
City Council approved them, and the agreements were now being
brought back to the HAA for approval.
MR. AOUCK. SECONDED BY MS,
ORITY AND M[J;3ZCIPAL
THE FRIDLEY HOUSING
S KFCONA�ZNDATIONS AT
UPON A VOICE VOTP, ALL VO'PI:
MOTION CARRIED UNiSNIMOUSLY.
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SERVICES
DECLARED
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, SEPTEMBER 13, 1979 - PAGE 2
2. Discussion on "Tax Increment Analvsis and Cash Flow" Document:
Mr. Commers stated that, at the last meeting, the HRA members had
difficulty in understanding some of the computer print-outs and '
would like to go over them in more detail. He asked Mr. Doyscher
if Mr. Doyscher had studied this document in detail and if he was
satisfied with the data reported in itY
Mr. Doyscher stated he had studied it and he was satisfied in that
the research people made no assumptions, such as inflation. Zn his
opinion, they were also very conservative ir, terms of assessed values
on new structuxes and taxes, which was exactly what the bonding
attorneys were going to require in terms of conservativeness, and
that would a11ow the City to be on the most conservative side of
cash flow.
Mr. Commexs asked Mr. Doyscher to go over the print-out schedules
in the document with the HRA members so they could better understand
them.
Mr. Doyscher pointed out that he and Mr. Boardman had set uo the
assumptions and had also seL- up the numUer of runs with these assump-
tions. They ran an assumption where the increment caould only he
gained en �'i:llage Green, they ran an aseumpeion where there would be
a 2% inflation on property values, Chey ran an assu�nption with mi11
levy computations coming down without changing assessed values bringing
Chem up, and they ran an assun�ption or. an off.ice Uuilding located in
the Phase I area,
Mr. Doyscher reviewed the document in detail with the HRl� memUers.
He stated he thought this was an excellent document to use as a guide
when someone is'making a nroposal.
3. Discussion on Preliminary Deve2opment Standards:
Mr. Boardman stated that at the July 18th meeting, he had asked the
IiRA members to review thie document. He was now looking for approval
of the documenC irom the FIRA and a recommendation to attach it to the
development proposal.
Mr. Coumiers asked what the purpose was for the document.
Mr. Doyscher stated that one of his concerns about Center City was
that the existing controls really would not pr.ohibit someone from
building'something of marginal commercial use, at the same time the
City:was trying to get programs together to take buildings down and
put together more parcel5 of land for Uigger development. Without
establishing some controls on thaL- land beyond just what the City has
in the Zoning Ordinance, he was afraid they would at some time be
working at cross purposes.
HOUSING & REDrVELOPMENT AUTNORITY MGETZNG, SL'PTEMBER 13, 1979 - PAGE 3
Mr, Doyscher stated that they were asking the City to put the
Development Standards into oxdinance form. It basically said some
of the thfngs they would like to have happen in the Center City
Project. He stated he would like to call the HRA's attention to
the item, "Specific Controls" contained in the center of the
document.
Mr. Commers staCed it was obvious that when you do a project like
this, there has to be some conformity and some controls, but there .
is the problem of putting restrictions on the people's use of their
own land before the City has acquired their land.
Mr. Boardman stated the main thing is that they have laid out the
project area and the intent of the project area is to improve
development. They are noY saying that development should not be
done as a privaCe resource, Uut they are saying that there is an
intent and there is a projecr they are looking for in this area,
and if development is going to be done, it should be done consistent
with the goals and objectives of the City. They would definitely
want to encourage private development if those private developers
are going to go in the direction the City wants for the Center City
area .
Mr. Boardman stated that ir. the past, the City has looked at potentia.l
areas as overlay districts. For exacnple, the flood plain and the Hyde
Park area are overlay disL'rzcts. This may be something to Ue loo4ed
at for the Center City area.
Mr. Boardman sL-ated that in order to put these kinds oi conditions
on zoning, they de,`:initely have to get approval from the Planuing
Commissioti and City Council, but the HRA has to be the initiatin�
agency for that process.
Mr. Commers asked if there were other alternatives.
4fr. Doyscher sCated that one alternaYive would be amending the
Zoning Ordinance to say the same thing. Another alternative would
be to have only Phase I.
TO RECOMMEND ti0
CITY C�IJICIL, THROIIGIi PLANtiI�;G CO;SMISSION, THA'1' 'SHliY ADOP'i' SUI
GUIDELINES FOR CONTROLS SITIILAR TO THE "PRELITIINARY DEVELOPMC:
STANllAP�DS" TO BB IMPL�MEN'iED IN THE ZONING ORI%INANCE. UPON A
VOTE, RLL VOTING AYB, CHAIFPEP.SON CONP�RS DECLAP.ED THE PfOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOIISLY,
B. NEW BUSINESS:
1. Appointment of F.xecutive Director to IiRA:
Mr. Commers stated that the members had received a copy of a leteer
dated August 7, 1979, from the City Manager to the IiRA stating the
appoinbrent of Jerrold lloar.dman as Lxecutive Director to the HRA,
subject L•o Che IIRA's concurrence.
HOUSING & REDEV�LOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING SEPTEMSL�R 13 1979 - PAGE 4
OF JERROLD Ii0e1RDMAN AS
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ALL VOTING P.YE CIIAIRPER50N COMMliKS llN:CLARt;ll '1'H� MO"S1UN GAKf(i�:U
UNA[VIMOUSLY .
2. Receive Invitation for Proposal Document:
Mr. Boardman stated t-hat i:his is a preliminary document put together
by the consultant. This document ioould be used for an invitation of
development. This document would have exhibits attached to it to
be sent to developers to invite some interest within the development
of the Center City Project.
Mr. Boardman stated that, at this point in time, he felt it would be
a good idea to go through the document and explain what they were
trying to accomplish with it and to get some feedback from the HRA
for finalization of the document by the October meeting. By middle
to end of OctoUer, they would be putting together a development
proposal to be sent out to the developers.
Mr. Coumiers stated he felt the members needed time to read this
document over before making any decisions on it. It would be too
hard to do it aC this mecting.
Mr. Boardman stated this was an important document and he wanted the
fiRA to take as r,�uch time as they nceded on it.
Mr. Doyscher stated he would like to briefly go through the documenl-
at the meeting eo point out some things and to make some recommendat-ions.
Mr. Doyscher pointed out t_he fifth paragraph under "Introduction";
"The City will consider as a first priority for immediate action
proposals submitted for development of the Phase I area. As stated
elsewhere in this offering docun�ent, development and redevelepment
plans wi11 be considered for all phases (or Parcels I through VI),
but immediate action appears more likely on Phase or Parcel I."
Mr. Doyscher staY.ed that cn the first page under "Development
Proposals", in the statement, "�of:fer to rehabilitate an existing
structure", he and Mr. Boardman had considered eliminating this
statement, because it was their feeling that the existing structures
in this phase probably are not what ttiey are looking for in terms of
rehabili_tation. His recovm�endation was to delete that statement from
the document.
In Item 2, under "Instructions for Proposal SuUmittals", Mr. Doyscher
recommended that "established at _ per sq. foot" be deleted and
"negotiaUle caith the HRA" 6e inserted.
In Item ik7, Mr. Doyscher recommended that the following sentence he
deleted: "The cos�s are to be paid by City funds."
In IL-em �18, Mr. Doyscher stated thaL- "Executive llirectnr of: the 13RA"
should be inserted after "Jerrold hoardman".
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING SBPTEMBER 13 1979 - PAGE 5
In Item f�10, Mr. Doyschar recommended that the following change be
made to the first sentence: "Proposals for Phase I or comtination
of Phases with Phase I must be received at the office of the Housing
and Redevelopment AuChority, City Hall, rridley, Minnesota, 55432,
no later than (date to 6e determined Iater) ."
In Item �k12, Mr. Doyscher recomnended that the word, "submission"
be delel'ed and a blank space inserted for a closing date.
Item i614 refers to "Di.sposition Documents" and Mr. Doyscher stated
he had drafted a"Land Disposition Document" for the HRA members to
review.
After Item 9k16, Mr. Doyscher recommended that the whole section
entitled, "Processing Development Proposals" be deleted.
Mr. Doyscher stated that after the ARA members had time to read the
Proposal Document and atter making their recommendations, the Proposa7.
Document would be put together in a final form.
Mr. Commers stated that the HRA members could review the document
and discuss it at the Special HRA meeting on September 20, 19%9.
II. LARGF. FnMILY HOME OWATERSRIY PRO^vR��P1:
A. Receive Environmental Assessment Statement:
Mr. Boardman stated that this document was part oi the application
made under the Large Family Program. The notification for this applica-
tion was published August 15th, 15 days for review. After the 15 days,
they published another notice of tlte Ci.ty's intent to request a release
of funds of $120,000 as a requirement under the contracts. There was
another 15-day waiting period and that period was up tliat evening. After
that evening, they woald be able to send a letter to HUD asking for a
release of funds, and those funds would ttien be released to the City in
the City's account in Chicago. They could then start spending those
funds. He sCated this document �bas for the HRA's information.
B. Receive Updated Housing Assistance Plan:
Mx'. Soardman stated that something that went along with the application
was a Housing Assistance P1an. This is a plan xequired under all HUD
approvals and all AtID documents. It te11s how many units are available,
the standard and substandard units, the projected increase in units,
and the projected increase in population to reside. On the last pages
of this Plan were the City's three-year goals and current year goals.
He stated thls was also for the HRA's inform�tion.
MOTION by P2r. Houck, seconded by Ms. Svendsen, Co receive into the
record the Environmental Assessment Statement and the tlpdated Housing
Assistance Plan. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, Chairpersou Commers
declared the motion carried unanimously.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING SEPTEMBER'13 1979 - PAGE 6
C. Discussion on Program TlmetaUle and Program Expenditures:
Mr. Boardman stated Chis was the potential timetable for the Home Ownership
Program. Hopefully, by the next regularly scheduled HRA meeting, he would
have more information on the financial part of it:
Mr. Boardman stated they were looking at having control of the properties
and making those properties available for construction by June 1980.
There is quite a process for acquisition and relocation. He stated that
he did not note all Che HRA meetings within this timetable; however, he
did note those HRA meetings where there would have to be a resolution or
some kind of action by the HRA on actual agreements or documentation.
Mr. Boardman stated Che process for this program was pretty much set up by
HUD, and the City would be working closely with the City Attorney.
D. A reement of Cooperation Between the Cit}� of Fridley and the Fridl.ey HRA":
Mr. Boardman stated Chat he had taken this document to the City Council,
the City Council had approved it and recommended it be suUmitted to the
HRA for contract review and approval.
MOTION BY PSR. HOUCK,_SECONDED BY MS. S4ENDSEN, TO ADOPT THE "AGRESMENT OF
rnnPF'nA�'in*: RF.'1'ih�HF.N THE CITY OF FiIDLF.Y :�iv'D THIs FP.IDLti' A2tts"__UPON A VOIL'li
UNANIMOLSLY.
III. OTHBR BUSINESS:
A. Community DevelopmenY. Blocic Grant Projects:
Mr. Boardman stated they were moving rayidly on the next community
deve3.opment block grant program. The cieadline for this application
is October 1, 1979. He stated they had co�mnunity block grant meetings
with HUD aUout three weeks ago where they found out all the necessary
information to put the projecT.s together. There are such restrictive
publ.ic hearing prncesses L-hat they generally have to act first and come hack
to the commissions later. So, they had set some public liearings for the
proper notification times. They set a puUlic hearing before the HRe� on
September 20 and before the City CounciJ. on September 24 to meet the
deadline to HUD on Oct: 1. He stated this was a preliminary application.
Once a preliminary application is submitted, it goes through a review
process before HUD sends out letters to the conununities asking for iinal
recommendations.
Mr. Boardman stated that with the suUmission of a preliminary application,
they have Co have two documents - a"Citizen Participation Plan" and an
"Implementation of Citizen Participation Plan with Regard"to the Community
DevelopmenC Block Grant Program".
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING SEPTEMBER'13, 1979 - PAGE 7
Mr, Boardman staCed he had written a memo to Che HRA outlining the
preli.minary project and some discussion as to what projects they were
looking at. Another document the HRA members had received was the
Rules & Regulations which tells the basic eligibility activities under
HUD B1ock Grants.
Mr. Boardman stated they lay out strategy areas of potential low and
moderate income that needs rehab or where elderly live. So, they gear
the program toward selected areas within the community. Their intent
is to stop deterioration in those areas and to bring up quality neighbor-
hoods.
AC this time, Pfr. Boardman stated they were looking at two main programs
and possibly three or four. These programs caere put together rather
rapidly. The first program is Handicapped Accessibility - City Hall -
estimated cost $120,000. The second program is Housing Rehabilitation
Loan, Interest Rate WriCe-Down Program - estimated cost $43,000. The
third program is the Housing Rehabilitation Grant Funds for elderly and
handicapped homeowaers - estimated cost $35,000, and the fourth program
is the Energy Grant sei. aside for Community Action Program (Anoka CAP) for
weatherization in Fridley - estimated cost $25,000.
Mr. Boardman stated the public hearing on SeptemUer 20 is actually on these
four. prohr.ams and at that publi.c hearin�, the City wi11 be bringing bef.ore
the HRA a requesl for the initiation and presentation of an application
to HUD based on these four programs.
B. Liability Insurance;
Mr. Boardman stated he had a copy of a lett�r from the City's insurance
company which stated that the ARA members had binding cover.age effecti�e
July 20, 1979.
Mr. Commers expressed concern that this covexage was for bodily injuzy
and property damage, and he was not sure it covered the types of actions
that would be taken by the FIRA.
Mr. Boardman stated he would taAc to Pir. Marvin Brunsell and get a letter
of clarification on this in5urance coverage.
ADJOURNMENT•
MOTION by Mr.
Upon a voice
September 13,
10:31 p.m.
Houck, seconded by Mr. Prieditis, to adjourn the meeting.
vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Commers declared the
19]9, Rousing & Redevelopment AuL-hority meeting adjourned at
Resp ctfully sub itted,
• ( ��-�...
Lyct ' Saba
Recording Secretary
ENVIRONriFNT;�,L (�UALI'.CY COrII�iISSION rU:]iTI?iG. SGYi'L'NIl3iiR 18, ] 979 - PAGE 2
P10T701Q by Ms. MeL-cal.f, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to zpprove L-he agenda
as amenclel: Upcn a voice vote, a11 voting aye, Chairpex•son Langenfeld
declared the moCion carried un:nimously.
1. CpDITZNUPD: TitLndlC HIGFIS�;AY 10 f,ND fSORT:i CROSS'LOk�iiT:
Mr. Deblon stated that Mr. Boardman liad attended a Norch Management Cormnittee
meeting on Sentember 11. He seated that the following technical reports
were prepared Uy th� consultant, Bather, Ri_ngrose, & Wolsfe7.d (L?tiv), and he
tliought the Cownission mi�ht want to note them and the status of each one.
?. R'OI�F fiEF�RT - Draft to 1�-znOT and Federal Highway, making changes
aad ready for PCA and Management Commit.tee.
2. aRCHEOLOGICf�I, kEP�F.T - completed co ?RnllOT, 99%, for clea_-ance
3
4
J
2
WETLANDS RE,PORT - Tcao ueeks ag� had coordination meeti.ng; they will
fivalize repert iLZ 2-[F r,,eeks.
SdAaER FE�iErRC�S FLOOD YLFii�v - reaching dr�ft complet.ion to be
cnordinated 4:1iZ1 1`iriDQA
?iR QL"t,ialTY P.EPG;ti' - reacl�ing draft ce�pt��z�z to be coordinat'ed
td:.i:17 ;ittU07' .
F,T?�'.it:1�PCi:�.1�U - n.�a�o :e:n,n;_'. to t-�ie up „��i'-h r,.,',rm,�-;, {' �,.
. , _ 1 tc 1.. }II t>�:,.Or�r_�. Gc.,^,:Lt;P..
� 7:1:,t:F&5 - _ .
T9r. Dz}�iou 3.L)=d Lh= �,ity �;,�.lri r 4i�.t.s: i?�esE. .�epux•;.... �1ft:. ret��?in&
a.n3 st.adyir.g ��hese reports, i� was his opinion �ha.t the City could L-her� handle
an ir`or.natzonal-ttipe pubi.ir. naetir.g.
D,':. T:+eblon >ta.ted that_ the status of completion o:a r.he drsf-t Env�_ronmental
Iro�act Staicn�ea�. ;.a; fcr tl�e mid c; end o� P?cti�ember. T.t thea� �oes [o the
Federal Government ier :;ix months. After a si.x�-month .review period by ihe
Federal Cove.rnsnent, T.here will be a 45-day not-ice to pul;lie hearin�.
the i.o1.lu�ain
oti Year �UUO
t�ssi., nn�ents
vote. a17. vo
unluiwousl�
41r. Peters
� icports tionr_ b� E.ZW cxi 9/1i/
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Community.Devel.opment" and "C
- ?3uild A1Cerna*_ives t�e*sus 1Qo
to r.ecei4�A into
on � o£ '1'i�i 610/TfI
e�ltei�7.ati.ves"
ared the motion.
2 'I`raffa-c.
�
In a-eviewirg these reports, tlie Commission r,�em6ers concurred that there t,'�ere a
lot oi discr^pancies ir. the repor*_s.
Mr.. Petr:rson stated !te would Ii.l:e to requesr tliat a represeutative frcm L'P.W
comv Lzfore tile Cosmission tv e3;�lain L-tx. report>.
Et]VIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MIiE'PII�'G SEPTEMI�ER 18, 1979 - PAGL' 3
COMS4ISSIGiI MLPsTING TO GIV� Tttc curlMia:,
GIV�N ON Tllli TRAlTIC VOLUh�S IN THE RL
TH 252 TRAFI�IC ASSIGNMENTS". UPON A V
CARRIED
ON
i�nn
A,LL VOTING AYE
Mr. Peterson stated that, based on the projections given on tUe maps of the
above-mentioned report, regardless of building TI� 610, there is going to be
an inerease of 20°( in traffic volume across 6°4. With the "no-build alternative,
there is an increase of 50+% in the traffic volume across the 694 bridge.
Therefore, the net increase is sti11 only 30'/ as opposed to 50+% because of
population growth, increased traffic, etc.
Ms. Metcalf indicated that on the chart entitleJ, "ImpacL-s of TH 610 �n Year
2000 Development in Cooa Rapids", under T1Z 4-82, W/TH 610, there was 3,800
households; �d/0 TH 610, there was 3,3Q0 households. That diff.erence was +13%.
On the map corresponding with that.chart, the shaded area for TAZ 482 indicated
a"11-25%" increase. The �aP Was entitled, "Impact of Ido Build on fIousehold
Population" when it' actually should be entitled, "Tmpact of �uild on Household
Population". The +% difference was because of the "build", not the "no-build".
MOT.ION bv Ms• SPorr.e,_s
TH 10 and North Cr.os>to
to iurthe�- stu��
�son LanQenfeld
ed bv Mr. Peterson, to
at t:he next meeti
his materi�sl. Up
lared Lhe motion
2, CO1dTIN(IED; DA'TA ON SPRING BROOK:
on a voi_ce vote, ��.
C
Ms. Metcalf stated that the locations of the testing at Spritxg Brook were at
the norLh entrance of Spring Brook L'o D?orth Park under iiighway 132 near the
railroad tracks, at the'exiC of Spriizg Brook out of the south end of North
Park at the railroad tracks, and where Spriag Brook'enters the Mississippi
River.
Mr. Deblon showed the Coffenission members maps of the dif.ferent G�atershed
districts. He indicated thzt the map of the Spring Brook Watershed District
sho;aed that the new relocated TII 10 caas almost esclusively in tUe Spri_ng Brook
$asin in Slaine.
MOTS.ON Uy Mr. Petersoa, seconc�ea ov ri
the Spring L'rook data dated 7/6/78, 1
voice vote, all votin._�e Chairpers
carried unanimously.
Metcalf, to receive into the recora
!9%78. 5/15/79, and 7/26/79. Upon a
Pfr. DeUl.on stated cha.t it was Mr. Steve Olson's opinion that there had been
no siguifi.cant change in water quality irom S/19/75 to 7/26/79.
Pir. Deblon stated Chat the laUor.atory analyses are perfozmed in accordance
witili tl;e methods descri_Ued in "Standard Methods far the Exami_nation of Water
and i•]aste tdxter", 13th Editi.on, and "EPA Plethuds for Chemical AnaLyses of
Water and �a7astes", 7.974.
ENVI220NMENTAL OUALITY CONL^�fISSION MLETItdG. SEPTEMIiTsR'18. 1979 -
Mr. lleblon stated that the parameters came out of the "Recommended Drinki.ng
Water Standards of 1962, U.S. Dept. of Health, Education, & idelfare", In
addition, there are PCA Ru1es and Regula[ions, WPC-7.
Ms. Metcalf stated she still felt there seemed to be'a lot of monieoring
and that the large number of testings involved money. She thought that
maybe there could Ue critical parameters that could be run consistently over
a 2-3 year period during construction which would give the same resuLts as the
huge mass of testing being done now.
3. OTHER BUSINESS;
A. "The Metronolitan Environment" Brochure
Mr. Langenfeld stated that there were five seminars listed in this
brochure, plus tours, and that any interested Commission members
could attend any of these seminars.
MOTIf3N by Ms. Sporre, seconde3 by Mr. Peterson, that the Environnental
Quali�. Commission memUers Ue represented at tUese. seminars and
partici.paee in the tours to the Ue,t of their abilities. Upon a voice
vote, all votzng, aye, Chairperson Langenfeld declared the motion
carried unaninously,
The seminars include, ^Metro-Mi_nnesota, Our Enviromnental Scorecard" -
October 2; "Clean TdaL'er° - October 16; "C1ean Air/P�oise Control" -
October 30; "Solid an.d Aazardous Waste" - November 13; and "F.nergy" -
November 27. The tours the Commission. members expressed interest in
coere to a sewage treatment facility and to L-he 3Ti Chemolite Plant in
Newport.
B. APPZication from B.N.L. Development Corporati.on
Mr. Langenfeld stated L-hat the Planning Commission had received a
notice of a public hearing before the Blain2 'Loning aud P1ann.ing
Commission on Sept. 12 on the following application: Case 79-�9
Subdivision; '�pplicant - B.IQ.L. Development Corporation by Ren ISielson;
Location - 85th Ave. & Highway 47. The petition was that the
applicant wishes to subdivide 6.27 acres into four lots intended for
developmei�t oi retail trade service businesses. The present zoning
of L-he parcel is B-3 which is generai business. No change in zoning
was requested.
Mr. Langenfeld stated L'his would be before the Blaine City Council
on Sept. 19. He stated the Conunission should be concerned about
the effect on I�orth Park and the traffic. Concerned Cormnission
members could attend the Blaine City Council meeting on Sept. 19.
Ms. Sporre sLated she would lilce to recoi�iend that the City of
rridley advise the CiLy of P,lai_ne to nolify Fridley earlier so that
interested garties can re.spond to questions of this nature. Tlie City
of I'ridley certainly appreciates tl�is notification, Uut it did not
give the City enough time to respond.
ENVIROTIMRT;'CAL QUflLITY COMI�f�.SSION t�17'ING, SEP7'EhiBER 18, I979 - FAGI: 5
MOTION P,I' MS _ SPO}iRli1_SECONI)FD P,Y T1R. PPTr RSON, TO RECOrII�ND TO
CI'TY COUi1i7IL� 'l_Hi20UGT1 PLANN:f.NG COh1NiTSSI�OhI� T.IlAT 1_II� CT'Ii Ox' PP.IDLEY
ADVISE THIi CITY_ OP TLA):NE I3r Lli'TTEIt THGT T.IIE C_�'1'Y 0� PRIDLSY LI011LD
LIKr TO HAVF. SUrFICIF.NT 'lIr1t: TO 13VALL'ATF PROl'OSlsLS THA'J: fIAVS THE
POTENTIAL POR .^.F1�1',C'rING PRIllLLY, UPON A V�ICE V01�, ALL VOTING AYE
THE
C. Sol.id Waste Coi�.£erence
�'1
T1r. U::bloa stated 'ne had attended the 1979 Minnesota Sol.id Waste
Coufe'.2nce on Sept. 14-15. lie stated that he could foresee in the
future the need for Fridley to have a mandatorp crdinance requi.ring
source separation. Per John Madoe, M.P.C.A „ there is a cosL- of
$6 milli.on to Yhe. public becai.�e of the cost of garbage. .Sovrce
separation would lower pollution, both air and water, help ir_ the ,
bala.z�ce oi oaymeets, reduce, energy,and, economi.cally, the recyclin�
�ra�ue is higher than r�w material.
ADJOURr{n�N T :
P10iI0P� by ?ir. Fef:e,'so_a, secoaded US i•is. Sporre, to adjou+rr. the meeting. Upon
a-oice vote, a1). vctir,� aye, �hairnersen 7ar;;en£e7.d declared the Sentemher lII, 7.979,
I>m�zrot�.a�2nt'al Qvalit: CoL'rriiso?cu 'r.�.t"in.� ?.c' na.n._�i i1:�'; ;.tn.
P.espect;:vl.ly submi.�ted,
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,�:�_,�.:`-
Lynn�;Faba
Recordiug Secrr.tazy
i
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COI�ffSSION MEEfING OCTOBER 3 1979
CALL TO ORDffit:
Chairman-Harris called the regular meeting of the Planning Co�ission to order at
7:30 P.M,
ROLL CALL:
Members Preaent: Mr. Harris, Ms. Hughes, Mr. Oquist, Mr. Treuenfels, Ms. Gabel
Membera Absent: Ms. Schnabel,(represented by Ms. Gabel), Mr, Langenfeld (arrived
at the end of the meeting)
Others Present: Jerry Boaxdman, City Planner and Bill Deblon, Associate City
P 1 anner
1. CONTINUED: IAT SPLIT RBQUEST. L.S. �79-04. EDWARD T. BAULER: Sp1it off the
Westerly 60 feet of Lot 14, A.S. �22, except the Southerly 390 Feet, also Lot
30, Blqck 2, Irvington Addition, and adjoining vacated streets and alleys in
Itvington Addition, to be sold as open space for an adjoining property, the
same being 1420 Rice Creek Road N.E.
Chairman Harris asked Mr. Boardman for co�ents on thia request.
Mr. Boardman told the Planning Commission when considering this item, that it was very
important to consider planning for the whole district. The entire area was quite large
with many undeveloped lots. He stated other landowners in this area have contacted
him regarding the question of lot splits. His two main questions were how to get
accesa to all of this land and what kind of use the land would service Fridley beat.
He realized Mr. Bauler only wanta to split off 60 feet, but this would make the lot
substandard in width and a very deep lot. This lot could become landlocked in the
future. When planning we have to look at 15 to 20 years down the road. He realized
this will put a burden on Mr. Bauler now. The City already has a 30 foot road right-
of-way along Mr. Bauler's land. This was platted many years ago on the old Irvington
Addition. All the streets and alleys in the area have been vacaCed. The City would
have to obtain an additional 30 feet to make room for a road. Mr. Boardman recommended
denial of the lot eplit.
Mr. Harria sa#d the reason for continuing this requeat was the question of access to the
rear properties, plus, to find out what the other property owner�s intents where.
Mr. Boardman said they did not ask each owner what their intent was, because perhaps
in 5 years from now they may sell to a developer and we have to plan for that now.
Mr, Harria said they were also looking for some sort of a plan for this aiea.
Mr. Boardman said this was what he did on his propoaed road plan and lot plan. Because
of lack of time, everything was not planned from an engineering atandpoint, but the
plan as far as a road system, lot division and lot size was feasible. He asked if we
do this split naw, what problems are we creating down the line. He reco�ended denial
because the lot would be too narraw. It would be only 60 feet wide, which was subatandard
and that has never been allowed before. If the co�iasion okays the lot split, it
would be saying the lot was buildable, which was not ttae. Mr. Boardman questioned if
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PLANNIIdG COi�"Ri1ISSI0N MEETING OCTOBER 3 1979 PAGE 2
the Commisaian could legally approve the lot split becauae it would be going against
the ordinance requirements for size. Mr. Boardman also recommended denial because
the rest of the land would be inaccessibleand the City could not get the needed road
right-of-way.
Mr. Harris asked if the terrain was too steep for roads.
Mr. Boardman said there are variations in the terrain, but there are low points which
are fairly level and could be serviceable. The proposed plan was about the best one
for road access and creating lots.
Ms. Gabel pointed out on the praposed road plan, some houses w�re in the way. She
questioned what happes to them.
Mr. Boardman replied this xoad plan was not definite. It may have to be moved around
for thoae homes, some lots made smaller or larger or if the price was right, the
developer would purchase the hom� and relocate them.
Ms. Hughes asked how many property owners were affected.
Mr. Boardman said the land was owned by 9 homeowners and they each have a large amount
of land. Ae then showed a map of each homeowner's land.
Mr. Boardman suggested to Mr. Bauler to split off some other area of his land.
Mr. Bauler, 1420 Rice Creek Road, said he has a buyer for this land already and he did
not want to sell anymore of his land.
Mr. Boax�an said this neighbor would be able to put iu hie tannia court, with this
lot spllt �md th� �plit off his or1s1�1 l�d qei rall. Ha has r�n this happen
bofora. 24r. B�uler rould thwn b4 laft vith inacc�sstble land on his back proparty.
Mr. Robert Barnette, 541 Rice Creek Blvd., speaking as a friend for Mr. Bauler,
pointed out the only reason Mr. Bauler was selling Was because of financial need.
Ae said if he sold this 60 feet to his neighbor, ultimately the tennis court would
go in, and when the road was needed, it would be part of the neighbor's land that
would be condemned. The burden would be on the purchaser of the property, not on
Mr. Bauler: It would be up to the neighbor to settle on the cost of this lot, not
Mr. Bauler. The burden should not be on the petitioner because of something 20 years
down the road. .
l[r. Boarri�ui raid the burden was on the City, bacaus• th�� vould be sayiag the lot
p�lit Wae buildable rmd it was not.
Mr. Harris said he did not see how the Planning Co�nissian could approve a lot split
for thia size because it goes against the ordinance.
Mr. Bauler said he did not want to se�l off more of hia land closer to his house. That
was all part of his home and he had lived there since 1938.
Mr. Harris said there have heen no lot splits of lesa than 75 feet since 1966,
Ms. Gabel asked if C.C. would buy another configuration of his land.
The Commission tried to work out various ways to split the land, but because of needed
road right-of-way and future land development, nothing was feasible. Also, Mr. Bauler
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. OCTOBIIR 3. 1979 PAGE 3
could not agree with any ot the suggestions because it would infringe on his home
and his life style. Mr. Bauler stated he wanted to leave his land to his children.
Mr. Harris suggested splitting off the land along Rice Creek Road, leaving an access
to hia home. This lot would be more valuable then the oxiginal request, somewhere
in the area of $15- - 16,000. This lot would also meet all the requirements. An
easement would be given for future road righe-of-way to give access to the land to
the rear. This split would stillleave Mr. Bauler the land around his home and allow
him to do what he wants with it.
Mr. Barnette pointed out that �he neighbor was not interested in this land.
Mr. Harris said considering land shortage and the location, this lot should sell very
easily.
Mr. Boardman auggesCed leasing the land the'nei�l�bor wasnted for his tennis court and _
also split the front lot on Rice Creek Road. The proposed road plan would then be shi�ted
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be_along this lot and an easement could be dedicated for road right-of-way when the 1nt —
was sold. This would satisfy the neighbor's plan; aud give Mr. Baulter the"money"he
Yequires and still leave 2 lots left of h s an .- —
Mr. Bauler said he fought placing a road here in 1967, but looks now like he has lost.
Mr. Barnette asked what type of procedure Ed would have to go thru.
Mx. Harris said he would only need a lot aplit for the land on Rice Creek Road. He
also auggeated workiag out a written asreement with the neighbor on leasing the land for
Che tennis-cour"t.- ,This shrn,ld inolnda and easement for access to Che tennis court for
motorized vehicles. Mr. Harris said they would continue this item until Mr. Baulter had
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time to talk with his neighbor ori this proposa2 and"work out the new lot split.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to continue Lot Split Request, L,S,
�79-04, Edward T. Bauler, until furthex notice.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, AZL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN iIARRIS DHCLARSD THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANII�OUSLY .
2. RECEIIiE HOUSING 6ND REDEVEI.OPMENT AUTfiORITY MINUTES• SEPTEMBER 13 1979•
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms.Gabel to receive the Housing an' Redevelopment
minutes of September 13, 1979.
D4r.+BC�ardman pointed out the motion on page 3 regarding the discussion on .reliminary
Development Standards and the Center City Project.
"Motion by Mr. Houck, seconded by Mr. Prieditis, to recov�end to City Council,
through Planning Co�isaion, that they adopt some guidelines for controls sim-
ilar to the "Preliminary Development Standards" to be implemented in the
zoning ordinance. Upon a Voice Vote, all voting ayg, Chairperson Commers de-
clared the motian carried unanimously.
He said he was presently working on zoning controls for the Center City pxoject and
should be bringing them to the Planning Co�ission soon. He rlated he was looking at
this area as an overlay district which would require Special Use Permits for all bui1-
dings in the Center City project. Special Use Permits would take care of variances,
PLANNING C(7bQfISSION MEETING OCTOBEEt 3 1979 PAGS 4
with proper notice.
Mr. Harris asked if he had a timetable for the development.
Mr. Boardman said he hopes to get a brochure out to developers by mid-November. That
puts any firm development commitment into January or February. He felt if everything
was done in a year's time, we would be doing good,
UPON A VOICS VOTE� ALI. VOTING AYE, CHATRMAN ��giS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
3. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COIMSISSION MINUTSS: SEPTSSI��ffiER 18. 1979:
MOTION by Mr. Hughea, seconded by Mt. Oquist, to receive the Environmental Quality
Coxcm�ission minutes of SeptembeY 18, 1979.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYB, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARR7ED
UNANIMOUSLY.
4. CONTINOED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTEIt 205. ZONING:
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to continue the discussion of Proposed
Changes to Chapter 205. Zoning.
UPON A VOICE VOTS� ALL VOTING AYS� CHAIRMAN FIARRIS D&CLARSD THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANII�OUSLY ,
Mr. Boardman asked the commission to set up a special meeting to discuss the zoning
changea only. This was the only portion of the re-codification that had to be done.
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to hold a Special Meeting of the Planning
Commission to discuss Proposed Changes of Chapter 205. Zoning, on Wednesday, October
10, 1979, at 7:30 P.M. in the downsCairs classroom.
UPON A VOIC$ VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANII�USLY.
�hairman Harris asked to have this meeting posted because it was a special meeting.
5. 07:IiER BUSINESS :
Mr. Treuenfels asked if the number of housing units (Comprehensive Plan) suggested by
the Metropolitan Council was subsidized by other agencies.
Mr. Bosrdmait replied yes. He a3:so stated he has had some discussions with the Metro-
politan Council on the number of units to be made available in a 10 year period. The
Council now feels it cannot require a community to build X number of homes in 10 years
if the Federal monies are not available. They now look at a 3 year period and say we
have so much money that can be granted to a community and therefore the units will be
built according to the monies available. This does not change the goals or objectives
of the Comprehensive Plan, but wi11 change some numbers in the implementation process.
Mr. Treuenfels asked if the funds come through the Metro Council.
PLANNII3G CON&SISSION MEETING OCTOBER 3 1979 PAGE 5
Mr. Boardman said the Metropolitan Council was an "A95" &eview Co�ittee and only
made sure the money granted by HUD or Minnesota Housing Finance was used properly.
Mr. Boardman said he had talked to Coon Rapids on the drainage question for the new
6 acre development on Hwy. 47 in Blaine. He said he got all the reports, charts,
statsstics, etc. from the architect firm that was developing this area and was satis-
fied that proper controls on quantity and quality of drainage were being used. They
are using a 100 year rain or 24 hour - 6 inch rain run-off, which was the same re-
quired by the Rice Creek Watershed District. The problem now, was there wexe no
present storage controls for run-aff. There was a lot of silting in the area and the
developer was embarrassed by that. He said they will be cleaning the ditches of this
silt in the next 2 to 3 weeks. Ttae quantity of run-off was being controlled and the
quality of the water was improving. Mr. Boardman stated there had been no silting
into North Park, only the ditches.
Mr. Boardman introduced the Critical Area Plan that was passed out to the commission.
He asked for a Public Hearing on October 24, 1979, to discuss this. He said this was
to have been sent to the Minnesota Ettvironmental Quality Coommission in September for
rev iew .
MOTION by Mx. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to receive the Mississippi River
Corridor Critical Area Plan.
UPON A VOICS VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN ILIRRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY,
Mr. Oquist asked if this was the same as what was in the Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Boardman replied .it was the same up to page 21. After that page it was new and
should be reviewed by the Planning Co�ission. However, he noted on page 26, these
requirements are state requirements and have been in effect since 1976. He asked
the members to pay close attention to the regulations when reading through. There are
many requirements under Federal regulations concerning bluffs, visual, vegation, set-
backs, etc. He said signing was not covered in this p1an as that had been taken care
of by the existing code requirements.
Mr. Harris said he noticed a 4 feet x 8 feet yellow sign along the river by 62nd Ave.
regarding boats. He did not think this sign should be there.
Mr. Boardman said he would check into it.
Ms. Hughes asked about the status of the Great River Road funding on the F.M,C. property.
This is covered in this plan.
Mr. Boardman said it was good. Funding was available, 75% Federal and 25% locai. He
understood there was money for the house, taking over the salt storage area and aquiring
walkway easements along the river by Georgetown Apartments. There will be a walkway
along the river from Island of Peace to the Minneapolis Water Works and possibly con-
nect up to the Camden Bridge bicycle path. Within the next 4 months, Island of Peace
and the rest of this property will be designated by the Metro Council as a regional park.
PLANNING COIQflSSION MEETING OCTOBER 3 1979 PAGE 6
Mr. Treuenfels questioned page 21 were it reads . "the City will take the following
measurea: Ammend Chapter 205 of the City Code to indlude special development regula-
tions for the corridor."
Mr. Boardman said this was what the Critical Area Plan will do. We are incorporating
state regulations with our own.
Ms. Gabel pointed out some of the state requirements were too loose.
Mr. Boardman said they are loose, but those requlations are encompassing the entire
river. We help interpret them and then add our own requirements.
Ms. Gabel asked how we find out if we are consistant with other co�unities on this
plan.
Mr. Boardman explained the process was to have our City approve the plan first, then
send it to our sister co�nunities for approval. From there it goes the Metropolitan
Council for apprwal and on to the Minnesota Eirvironmental Quality Commission. The
I�QC looks it over and sends it back to us to tell us where to change or strengthen
our requirements.
Mr. Boardman also noted L.S. 9k79-O5, City of Fridley, that was discussed at the September
26, 1979, meeting. The commission had questioned the status of the lot owned by the
City of Fridley. '!'his lot was not a designated park area, but rather a drainage area
£or dumping of stoxm sewer water. As of now, the City has not decided what to do
with it.
ADJOURNFfENT :
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuen£els, to adjourn the Planning Commission
meeting of October 3, 1979.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED TIiE MEETING ADJOURNED AT
9:10 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Paula Long, ecording ecretary