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PL 11/07/1979 - 6665PLANNIN6 COMMISSIOP� MEETING City of Fridley AGENDA WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 1979 .,. CALL TO ORDER: ROLL CALL APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: OCTOBER 24, 1979 1. PUBLTf HEARIN6• PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S. #7! DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION: Being a replat of Lots I-4, Block 8, Innsbruck Villages Inclusive; and 4 parts of Lot 1, Block 12 (see public hearing notice), the same being 5620, 5622, 5624 and 5626 West Bavarian Pass N.E. 2. PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED 6LUMBtHG ESTHIES, BY KHHLH BLUM6tKG: �eing a replat ot Lots 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and the West half of Lot 10; Lots 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 19 and 20, All in Block 2, Spring Lake Park Lakeside Addition, and Lots 3, 4 and 5, Block 1, Andco Terrace, generally bound by Osborne Road on the North, 75th Avenue on the South, Arthur Street N.E. on the West, and Lakeside Road on the East. _ _ . _ . ... __ ... .... .. . ... _ .... __ .._ . _ .._ __ .. . .. 3, �`RECETVE.HUNJAN RES�DRC�S COMhiISSION MINCJTESc OCTOBER �� t.Q:�.9�.�0 � . A, Concur witfi funding recoimnendations _ __ __ __ . _ _ . ... 4, "RECEIVE PUBLIC HEARING N07ICE fROM SPRING LAKE pARK __ .__ .._ _ __ . . ._ __ .. . __ _ _ _ . . 5. "RECEiVE ENllIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUfESt ��n�Tnorn�ic� in�n .. . . _.. .._ __ �_�.. _.. __ __ .._ _.. .. _ _.. :... _._ .. . __ _._ _. 6. " RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES< OCTOBER ,.�� ,�,� __ _ _ __ .._ . . __ __ __ _.. __ _. 7. 'CONTINUEDi PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205, ZONING 8. �OTHER BUSINESS; ADJOURNMENTi 7:30 P.M. PAGES 1 - 17 18 - 23 24 - 30 SALMON 31 BLUE GREEN SEpARATE � V_ , ctzY or rxznL� PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOB�R 24 1979 CALL TO ORDER• Co-chairperson Schnabel called the meeting of the October 24, I979, Planning Cou�ission meeting to order at 8:32 P.M. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Ms. Modig, Ms. Hughes, Mr. Treuenfels, Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Hora, Mr. Harris (arrived at 8:35 P.M.) Members Absent: None Othex's Present: Jerry Boardman, City Planner, B111 Deblon, Associate City Planner APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: SEPTIIdBER 26 1979: MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to approve che September 26, 1979, minutes of the Planning Commission as written. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CO�CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UAIANIMOUSLY. APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSiON MIN[TTES: OCTOBER 3 1979: MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by tir. Treuenfels to approve the October 3, 1979 minutes of the Planning Commiasion as corrected: Page 2, the second to last paragraph shoud read; "Ms. GaUel asked if the neighbor ..." Ms. Schnabel was not psesent at the September 26th and October 3rd meetings, and quesCioned the use of Special Use Permits taking care of variances in the Center City Project as noted on page 3 of the October 3rd meeting. She felt this statement contradicted what the Board was discussing at the previous meeting on pages 6 and 7, where they were concerned about Special Use Permits being used instead of variances. Mr. Boardman said Special Use Permits are set up now not to handle variances hecause one requires a public hearing and one does not. He was looking at the Center City ProjecC to be an overlay district and there would be special conditions for building in that district. One of the special conditions would 6e that all building permits would require a Special Use Permit. The permits would cover any variances from the code, i,e „ setbacks. The project would be handled by development rather than the regular code requiring a 35 foot setback. The Special Use Permit process would have to follow the variance process, Mr. Herrick has a copy of the overlay district and Planning Commission has not reviewed it yet. They will be reviewing the overlay district and zoning code modification after Mr. Herrick has looked at it. Ms. Schnabel said she would like to have time to look over this and see if she thought it was a good idea. ' • PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 24 1979 PAGE 2 Mr. Boardman said _definitely the Planning Commission would be going over the use of Special Use Permits in the Center City Project. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING liYE, CHAIRMAN IIARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 1. CONTINUED• L�T SPLIT REQUEST, L.S, d�79-04. EDWARD T. BAULER: Split off the West- erly 60 feet of Lot 14, A.S, ��22, except the Southerly 390 feet, also Lot 30, Block Z, Irvington Addition, and adjoining vacated streets and alleys ia lrvington Addition, to be sold as open space for an adjoining property, the same being 1420 Rice Creek Road N.E. Mr. Boardman reminded the co�nission that at the last meeting they had continued this request so Mr. Bauler could look into another lot split and possible lease agreement with his neighbor. Mr. Bauler came forward and said he would like to stick to his original request for a lot split. He said he l:ad been told when he bxoug'�t it in, it would not be approved. Mr. Boardman said he told Mr. Bauler when he brought in his reyuest he would recommend denial nf the lot split. Mr. Harris said the commission would make a recommendation to the City Council and he c�uld ask the City Council for approval. Mr. Bauler could see no point in that and felt his only alternative was to sell all his land and move out of Fridley. Mr. Bauler left the meeting at that point. Mr. Harris said the commission had studied the entfre area carefully and had come up with an alternative suggestion for Mr. Bauler. He chose to stick with his original lot split request and that request does not meeting zoning requirements. MOTION by Ms, Hughas, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to recommend to City Council denial of L.S. �k79-04, for the following reasoas: 1. Lot split does not meet zoning code requirements for minimum lot width. (lot size would be 60 x 293.2 feet) 2. Any future lot split of this new lot would create 2. substandayrd 'l,o�s (60 x 146.6 feet). This would only add to future problems in this area. ' 3. By allowing such a lot, the commission would be saying the lots are build- able, which was not true. Ms. Schnabel said she felt bad she wms not at the last 2 meetings when this request was discussed. She had studied the minutes and felt the motion was proper. Approval of the request would be creating a substandard lot and this would not be in the best interest of the city. Mr. Harris pointed out the commission had come up with a better plan by splitting off the front secfion of his land on Rice Creek ftoad. That iaould still leave aIl the land around PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 24 1979 PAGE 3 the house and to Che rear. An access easement would Fxave been provided for Mr. Bauler. This land would be moxe valuable to Mr. Bauler £or resale and that was his main reason for the lot split request. '"' Ms. Hughes also felt Mr. Bauler was not receptive to any new proposal as this was his third time here and he had the same comments each time. She felt the commission had really tried to work with him. She stated she felt sorry Chey wese not able to con- vince him of the alternative solution. She understood why he might not want to use their solution, because a house could be built close Co his. She wished they had been able to explore the possibility of splitting the rear lot and leasing that land to his neighbor. She stated that Mr. Boardman said the City would not have done that because a zear lot split would have cxeated a diagonal line and they do not do lot splits with a 1ot o£ description. Mr. Boardman said they do not necessarily not do them but a split like that would have to go through the plat process. Ms. Modig asked if he could use an alternative lot split proposal at a later date if he desired. Mr. Harris said yes. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CilAIRMAN }IATtItIS DEi,LARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Chairman Harris asked to have Mr. Bauler notified of the commission`s reco�endation. He also asked that City Council get all the information and discussions on this request as one package. 2, IAT SPLiT REsUEST L.S. �i79-07, WALLACE L. LARSON: Split off the Northerly 115.78 feet of Lot l, Block 1, Spring Valley Addition, the same being 1482 Mississippi Street N.E., to create a new building site 8D' X125' (10,000 square feet). Mr. Boardman said this lot split was in an area in the Comprehensive Plan called under- utilized land. The 1ot had previously been sp1iC off on the southerly end to create a 130 x 125 foot lot. On the south end of that lot the city has a 25 foot rode right- of-way. The lots in this area are ail quite deep and the city was looking at placing a road along the southerly end and developing the area. He felt this lot split would fit in with the area. Mr. Harris questioned easements. Mr, Boaxdman replied the necessary easements to service the back lots would be required. Therewould be approximately a 5 foot easement around the lot. Mr. Harris asked the petitioner for comments and if he understood the easement requirement. Mr. Wally Larson, 1482 Mississippi Street, stated he had no additional comments and that he understood ahout the easements. Mr. Boardman noted the curb that runs down Mississippi Street along Mr. Larson's property was 1.3 feet on his land. Some type of agreement regarding that should be worked out. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 24 1979 PAGE 4 Mr. Larson replied he was sure some type of agreement could be worked out between him and the city. MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Ms. Modig to recocmnend to the City Council approval of L.S, ik79-07, with the following stipulation: 1. Work out the required easements needed for the lot. Mr. Treuenfels questioned i£ the curb problem should be stipulated also. Mr. Harris said the City Council could handle that after staff has gotten all the information together. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN liARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr, garris inEormed Mr. Larson this goes before the City Counc3l DR Nnvember 5, 1979. 3. PUBLIC HEARING: REVIEW OF_THB MISSISSIPPI_RIVER pORRIDOR CRITICAL AREAS PLAN MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Hora to open the public hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AY$; CHAIRMAN IIARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED iTNANIMOUSLY, PUBLIC HEARING OPIIVED AT 8:02 P.M. Pir. Boardman explained tliat the Critical Area Plan was part of the Comprehensive Plan and had been pulled out to allow review by the various local and state boards. He said the first 20 pages of the Cxitical Area Plan Were the same as in the Comprehensive Plan. The policys and reco¢miendations have already been approved with the approval of the Comprehensive P1an by the Planning Commission. From page 21 on there was a breakdown of projects and implementations of the Critical Area P1an. The Critical Area regulations are found in this segment also. Mr. Boardman state3 the plan was an overlay district, i.n which changes will be included in the modifications__of the City_Code, Chapter 205. The rjetXg Council has: reyiewed the olan verv infQrmally� A copy of thei`[ comments were made avai.lat�le to each Commissipn member. Mz, Hoardman sai.d he did nQt aer.ee wittl a17, the comments made, Mr. Deblon said he had talked to the person who made the review, Carl Schenk, "Ir. Shenk said the comments may seem harsh, but were not intended. Lack of time made for hurried comments. � Ms. Hughes questioned if these coimnents change the policy, do we approve them and then send them back to Metro Couttcil or what happens to them. Mr. Boardman replied we will review the plan and cocmnents, make changes where needed, approve them and send them to the Metro Council for further reviewal. These comments, changes, and regulations are not necessarily the ones the Minnesota EQC would make. There was still some necessary negotiation needed on the document. The comments will be looked at to see if we are covering them or not. PAGE 21: Ms. Schnabel said tre chart referred to as I'igure 3-10 should be labeled as such. This was the Capital Improvements Program char.t on page 23. " PLANNING COMMISSION MEETtNG OCTOB�It 24 1979 PAGE 5 She also questioned the Statement in the 3rd paragraph. "In addition to proposing seven capital improvemenCs of their own ...". She wanted to know what those seven were and where they are listed. She felt this should be clari�ied better. Mr. Deblon said those seven improvements were also referring to Figure 3-10. PAGE 22: Mr. Harris asked for clarification of paragraph 1. Mr. Boardman said if our water area was to be used as some sort of commercial activity, by Coon Bapids for example, we should have regulations to cover that activity and know what conflicting activity it may involve. Mr. Deblon added if there was to be a nse of the river for perhaps recreational use,then what are the conflicting usesY i.e, canoe vs. motorized use. Ms. Hughes said the Park Committee would like to see the river used for some sort of recreational purpose and would like to have this regulation for conflicting uses in the plan. Ms. Schnabel asked about water quality in connection with surrounding communities, uses, agencies, etc. Mr. Boardman said our Comprehensive Plan does cover water quality and use very strongly. There was also comsnents on this in the Critical Areas P1an regulations. Ms. Schnabel asked if a city upstrear.i was polluting the water, what course of action does Fridley have to correct it. Mr. Boardman said our only real option was the Metro Council. When they are reviewing other communities plan the water quality area should be carefully reviewed. Also our watershed districts allow us closer, but limited control. PAGE 23: Ms. Hughes questioned the chart regarding stated improvements, i.e. Riverview Heights Park. How do residents find out about such improvements. That information should be included. Mr. Boardman said that information will have to be put in. The chart now was to give an idea of improvements. He pointed out that the costs and time table portions of the chart wexe blank because the pazk area of the Comprehensive Plan was not completed yet. Ms. Aughes also questioned the funding sources. Are these funds definite from those agencies or are we going to apply to them. Mr. Boardman said this was were we would apply for funding. If funding was not avail- able through LAWCON or LChfR and the city would have to fund, more time would be needed to complete each project. Ms. Hughes said the plan does not state clearly what type of park plan there was. Mr. Boardman said that should be included also.. PLANNINGG COMMISSION NIEETING OCTOBER 24 1979 PAGE 6 Irene Maertens, 144 River Edge Way, asked if the city really knew where the park improvements would be needed. , ,,, Mr. Boardman said ehe chart shows where improvements would most likely be needed. Ms. Hughes pointed out to the Planning Commission that the Park Commission had not reviewed or developed anything on the FMC River Front property acquisition. She wanted to know where this plan was coming from and where the funding was coming from. Mr. Boardman said the FMC property was to be a regional park in conjunction with Islands of Peace. This package was put together by Anoka County. The funds will come from the Metro Council and the Great River Road project. The Cour.ty has submitted to Fridley a PDR (Project Development Report) on this facility. Ms. Hughes wanted to know when the Park Committee got to see this report. Mr. Deblon said the proposal goes to the federal government first, then comes back for a public hearing. Mr. Boardman said Anoka County gave present�ion of this plan directly to the City Council. The Council did approve the master plan. Ms. MaeYtens questioned if Anoka Countyt��ught just the FMC property or FMC plus the Islands of Peace project to Council, and how they got involved in it. Mr. Boardman said the County can designate an area for park property without the consent of the city. He said they (Metro Council) were looking at Islands of Peace to be a regional park and in order to do that you need at least 100 acres of land. This would also include Durnam Island. Ms. Maertens asked what type of development would be planned for this area. Mr. Boardman said it would be a passive, picnic area with walkways, Ms. Maertens said she had tried to get information on this development from the Park Director, and he said he was unaware of any. Mr. Boardman was not sure if the Park Director had a copy of the PDR. He had gotten his copy only two days ago. Ms, Hughes said the public hearing time was too late. The deveTopment has already been decided. Mr. Deblon stated the City Council still would have to approve purchasing of the land and what would be developed on it. There still was time for public input. Ms. Schnabel said it seems the Metro Council has already decided this area fits into their park plan and if it was not consistent with a city's plan, that was too bad. Ms. Maertens questioned if the City would sell Islands of Peace. > Mr. Deblon said he did not know for sure. � PLANNZNG COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 24 1979 PAGE 7 Mr. Boardman explained Lhe PDR was only an application for FMC property acquisition. The Islands of Peace as a regional park application was separate to the Metro Council. The Metro Council was very interested in the FMC property because it was the longest stretch of open space in the Twin Cities. The FMC property al.so includes funding by the Federal Higlaaay Administration and the Great River Road Project. FMC and Islands of Peace are tied together in this application because pTeviously Islands of Peace had tried to get xegional park status. However, additional acreage was needed and so FMC was included. If the Islands of Peace was not included as a regional facility, it would not necessarily stop the acquisition of the FN� property. The Federal High- way was looking at FMC as a recreational park facility along the Grear River Road and an access to the river. Irene Maertens asked if the figure, 1.8 million,.was a correct..iigure for the FMC acquisition. • Mr. Boar�nan said that was for the acquisition only. The federal government has guaranteed that much money. The city has no control what-so-ever on the acquisition of the FMC River Front property. We get control when the Council approves the plan. Ms, Schnabel asked how come it came before the Council for approval then. The County brought the PDR before Council to see what, if any, problems they had on it. Mr. Hora questioned who would own the land. Mx. Boardman stated the County would. The park would be a regional facility and the County would develope, manage, and maintain it. Mr. Hora thought the Park CommitCee should have been allowed some input on this plan. Ms, Schnabel said she had heard Calk that the F'MC property might be used as a residen- tial area. Mr, Boardman stated they had talked with both FMC and the highway department on that proposal. The highwa.y departmenC �aould not purchase any land if it had zny development on it. The City could not purchase the 52 acres and neither could the Housing Authority. FMC wants to sell, but are very picky as to what they will sell it for. The City tried taking out 2 parcels of land to be developed, with the federal government picking up the rest. FMC would not go along wiCh that idea. The City txied only developing 1 parcel with a motel and again FMC would not agree. They said if the highway department was'to get involved, it was all or nothing. Both the County and Metro Council agxeed it should be a park development. Ms'. Hughes said the Park Committee would agree with that. Ms. Maertens asked if FMC was willing to sell with the park idea in mind. Mr. Boardman said that was what came before the City Council. If they do not sell, the City could condemn the land and designate it park property. Ms. Maertens asked if the city could do'that to all'the land along the river. � Mr. Boardman said yes, but it would be politically unwise to do so. AL1 cities have that power. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 24 1979 PAGE 8 Ms. Hughes said she thought Mr. Boardman had said before FMC wanted to sell, and now he statea they don't. Mr. Boardman replied they were willing to sell at their price. They want $50-60,000 an acre. Right naw they are paying ta�ces on this vacant.land as undeveloped R-1. He explained the land would be assessed at a certain price (l.e. $20,000/acre), FMC would ciaim it was worth $60,000/acre and would try to claim so by taking the city to court. A judge would then determine the cost per acre. That was the reasoning behind conde�ing the land. Ms. Hughes stated she was go3ng to try to get the Park Committee to review this proposal before it was fully developed, but felt it might not be possible because of time. Ms. Modig said so many times when something was to be reviewed by a committee, they are fighting a time element. This proposed park plan was a good example. They are suppose� to have citizen input on these questions and so often, staff says because of time, it must be done immediately. She felt staff has already; many times, made a reco�nenda- tion or decision on a request before the committees get to review them. Mr. Boardman agreed that the time element was a problem, but sometimes things ha�e to be done within a certain period. Ms. Maertens said she also felt there was lack of communication between the different departments and local governments. �dhen she came into City Aall and asked the Park Director for information, he told her to go to 'the County. The information was available through the Planning Department, only no one knew it. She also felt there should have been time fcr citizen input on the FMC park question because it was known since last April that Islands of Peace would be a regional park. Mr, Boardman said he had talked to the Plaaning Comraission about the FMC property, but did not have all the different concepts available until recently. He said this re- quest moved very fast. After Anoka County presented their plan, he and the City Manager went to the County to push for one of the development plans. They were told no, if the City didn't go along, funding would be withdrawn. The funds had to be allocated by November to keep the funding available. If the funding was not allocated by then the federal government would withdraw those funds for the State of MinnesoCa and give theoi to another state. The City had 4 days to make a decision. Mr. Treuenfels said it was important to note that a citizen was interested enough to come tonight and the information or where to get the information should have been available for her to look at, but it wasn't. PAGE 24: Mr. Harris questioned the item regarding Entrance Development to the City. Mr. Boardman explained this would be some sort of landscaping or perhaps a sculpture to let motorists know they axe entering Fridley. It would be something to xepresent the City. Ms. Schnabel asked for review of that plan by the Planning Commission. a PAr.F. 95� No Change � , PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 24 1979 PAGE 9 PAGE 26: Ms. Schnabel atated the portion of item 4k1 referring to "fleeting" does not apply to this portion of the Mississippi River and should be omitted. • Item �1 to read: The Mississippi River Corridor shall be managed as a multi-purpose public resource by conserving the scenic, environmental, recreational, mineral, economic, cultural, and historic resources and functions of the river corsidor, and providing for the continuation of development of a variety of urban uses within the river corridor. PAGE 27: Correct ��1, the woxd or to of. Change ��5, last line, thxee to two. Correct �F6, ESSENTIAL SERVICES: PAGE 28: Omit in at end of 4�8. Correct spelling, meadow on �kll. Remove �i2 under "Uses Exa�uded" Reword �k3 under "Uses Excluded" to read: Any waste material, sterage, use or waste treatment facilities. Mr. Harris qu2stioned ��4. Mr. Boardman said this refers to gravel or sand mining. PAGE 29: Ms. Schnabel felt C should be reworded, because many of the factors of this regulation would be known or on records by the City or the proper government agency. It did not seem right to ask a developer to spend money to find out these factors, when they are already known. The extra costs involved could possibly discourage a developer. C to read: F�cisting topography as indicated on a contour map having a contour interval no greater than 2 feet per contour; the topography map shall also clearly delineate any Uluffline, all streams, including intexmittent streams and swales, rivers, waterbodies, and wetlands located on the site. The topography map shall indicate the floodway and/or flood iringe lines and sha11 indicate the normal highwater mark of the river. Correct D, last word from lake to river. F should be E. Ms. Schnabel felt for better claxity, paragraph S should follow D. She also felt E, H, K and P should be grouped. Mz. Harris asked abwt item G. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBGR 24 1979 PAGF. 10 Mr. Boardman said in order to have any federal monies released, we have to have a atatement from the Minnesota Historical Agency stating there are no Indian arrowheads, pottery, bones, etc, that will be disturbed by this development. PAGE 30: Change and to for, last line of 7, PAGE 31: Correct speliing of the word services, 4th line of C. I4r. Harris asked Mr. Boardman if there were any variances for some of the requirements. He was referring to the possibility of a present structure being 50% or more destroyed. What requirements are allowed for reconstruction. Mr. Boardman replied variances would be allowed. They would be handled under the present zoning code. Ms. Hughes questioned the need for variances in the Critical Area Plan. Mr. Boardman said, if for example, a row ot homes burned down and the street was 100 feet or less from the river, variances coould be needed for setbacks. Otherwise a whole row of homes could not be rebuilt. Ms. Hughes pointed out that she thought that was the intent of the Critical Area Plan. Mr. Boardman stated that coas not necessarily true. He felt the intent of the plan was to maintain a natural setting along the river. Houses are not objectionable to look at. Ms. Schnabel pointed out one of the objectives, as listed by the Metro Council, was for planned unit development. Another objective was dedication of road frontage for public use. These two objectives could or could not be compatible. Mr. Boardman did not thin� it was the intent, and should not be the intent of the plan, to remove all housing from the area. We already have streets along the river and if houses were not allowed, what was the purpose of having the streets. PAGE 32: Mr. Treuenfels felt item D should be clarified.regarding what type of view could not be walled off. Mr. Boardman said this paragraph was referring to scenic or recreational views. Item D,_l�st sentence, should read: The walling off of scenic views of the river corridor from other properties and public right-of-ways shail be prohibited. PAGE 33: Mr. Harris felt item 3, section B, could cause some pxoblems. It states only natural material could be used for bank preservation. Some of those materials would be un- suitable for stopping erosion. Section C states nothing should be allowed, that was PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 24 1979 PAGE 11 not natural, to keep the erosion control material in place. Mr, Boardman said it was stated that way in order Co help preserve the view of the bank from the river. � - Ms, Schnabel pointed out you cannot see through rocks or wood, so why not allow some type of stabilization of that material by tiebacks or similar material. Mr. Boardman said the erosion control was for run-off and not flooding from the river. Therefore a terraced, retaining wall out of natural material would keep a more natural look to the river banks. Mr. Harris felt some erosion control systems were definetly eye sores, but if what was allowed doesn'C work, what good was the control. Ms, Schnabel said this was basically a personal opinidn. Beauty was in the eye of the beholder. One person may consider a railroad tie retaining wall attractive and another person would consider it ugly. Mr. Boardman said one of the intents of the plan was to keep the natural character of the river. Retaining wa11s should therefore be out of natural material. Mr, Harris questioned the safety of these retaining walls. A proper tieback could help eliminate that possibility. Ms. Hughes said she would prefer to see the plan keep these requirements. Ms, Modig asked if present retaining walls of cement, chickenwire, etc. had to be replaced with ehe natural materials. Mr, Boardman said no. Mr, Harris asked to have section A included as written, section B to read: Construction shall be of material approved by the zoning administrator. Sections C and D deleted. Mr. Boardman said they would rewrite item 3 to incLude the changes. Mr. Treuenfels questioned Che woxding of section D. It should read: The minimum space between retaining walls shall be twenty feet. Mr. Schnabel pointed out under item 4, "Vegetation Management',', only cutting of trees was referred to. What about some type of regulation on sma11 plants and shrubs. Mr. Harris asked if the selective cutting of trees greater than 4" in diameter was just for the area along the river. Mr. Boardman said it was for the whole Critical Area Plan. The plan has been set up by the federal government Co include all the land from the river to the hi�hway system and therefore the redulations apply to ehe entire area. ELAAINING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 24 1979 PAGE 12 Mr. Harris said he could go along with aelective cutting up to 350 feet.from the river, but not 2-x/2 blocks away. Mr. Boardman said sections A and B of Item 4 should be combined with the word however. This would then keep the requirement where new development was beirig done along the river. Ms, Schnabel asked how the �ity could enforce section C which ss:ates a tree 4" in diameter if removed must be xeplaced. For example; an addition to a home meeting all requirements and needing no variances was built, how does the city make sure a tree was replanted. Mr. Boardman said the building permit would give the city the needed control. Mr. Harris said he had some problems expecting a11 homeowners in the Critical Area to replant. Especially if Chey are 2,000 feet from the river. Ms. Modig said perhaps there would not be room for a new tree on a lot that was already developed. Ms, Schnabel said this could also infringe on the solar zights of a neighboY: Too much tree coverage would not allow for enough sun light in certain areas. Mr. Harris questioned the right of the city to place such retrictions on some homeowners and not others. - Ms. Schnabel said perhpas this should Ue a requirement for a11 of the city and not just a certain area. Mr. Boardman'pointed out this area was a special area and had special conditions for it to exist. Any development in this area affects the Critical Area Plan and any affect on the Critical Area: affects the entire river. M�. Schnahel asked about the xemoval o£ the sentence reading "expansion of existing structures". This would then just pertain to new developments. Mr. Boardman said he felt that it was just as important to regulate on existing lands as well as on new developments. Why only regulate a certain amount of the land use and not all. � Ms. Schnabel said for 3 reasons: 1. The regulation was picking on only a portion of the city. 2. There may not be enough room for a new tree on a lot. 3. Possible infringement on a neighUor's solar rights. She said if only new developments were included in the resulation this would allow the city control for replanting in those areas. Ms. Schnabel was thinking of the possibility of some land opening up in the Critical Areas for housing development. Mr. Boardman said thi� regulaCion already does that, plus also regulates existing structures. He said that would be picking on only ne•w developments and the same 3 PLANf1ING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBIIi 24 1979 PAGE 13 reasons could apply to them also. He could not really see why a developer or exiating structure would have a hardship replacing one or two trees. Mr. Harris felt the regulation was ridiculous and they would get laughed out of town. He could see the regulation for along the river, but not 2 blocks away. He also felt . it was rather two-sided to expect homeowners to improve and keep the natural 9.00k of the area when on the other side qf their homes, the'city was widening East River Road to almost the e�ctent of a freeway. MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Ms. Modig to delete Che words "or the expansion of existing structures" from the first sentence in C under Vegetation Management. Mr. Deblon pointed out that on the comment sheet from Metro Council a standard for txee replacement was needed. This was what this regulation was doing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, MODIG� I?LiliRIS, SCHNABEL VOTING AYE; AND HUGHES, TREUEiVFELS� HORA VOTING NAY, CHAIRMAN i1ARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION FALIED BECAUSE OF A TIE VOTE, PAGE 34: Item 1, section C, add the word permit after special use. Item 2, section Al, correct spelling of word construction. PAGE 35: Mr. Harris questioned the last paragraph referring to chemical control. He felt there should be no chemicals used, because of the closeness of the river. Mx, Hora said if the chemicals are used properly, there should be no problem. Arbitrarily banning chemicals �aould be unwise. Such control for tree disease, poisin ivy, etc. would be required. PAGE 35• No Change . Ms, Schnabel asked about si.gn conCrol in the Critical Area Plan, particularly along the River Road. Mr, Board said that will be handled in the sign ordinance. The signs along the River Road are on the south side of I-694 and in a dif£erent district. There was also con- trol on tederal lands. MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Schnabel to close the Public Hearing, UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMt1N HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 10:33 P.M. MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Mr. Hora to recommend to City Council approval oi the I•'ississippi River Corridor Critical Area Plan for the City of Fridley as a�mnended. UPON A VOICE VOTE, SCHNABEL, TREUENFELS, HORA, HARRIS AND I�DIG VOTING AYE� AND HUGHES VOTING NAY, CHAIRMAN HAItFtIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED. Ms. Hughes said she �!oted no because she would like more time to study the plan and some of the changes made tonight. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 24 1979 PAGS 14 . Mr. Boardman said the Planning Commission would be able to discuss the plan again after the comments are received back from the Minnesota EQC. Chairman Harris called a recess at 10:35 P.M. and reconvened at 10:45 P.M. 4. RECENE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES: SEPTF�ER 19 1979: MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Ms. Modig to receive the Park and Recreation Com- mission minutes of September 19, 1979. Mr. Harris asked what was the purpose of the "Director`s Philosophy" under New Business. Ms. Hughes replied because there were 3 new co�nission members on her commission, the views, feelin� or goals of the City's park staff were not known.,.�g commission was devoting an hour of each of the next few meetings to hear certai�t"'�hmbers philosophy. These philosophys do not necessarily represent the commission's ideas. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION GARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 5. RECEIVE COMMT7NITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES: OCTOBIIt 9 1979: MOTION by Ms, Modig, seconded by Ms. Hughes to receive the Co�unity Development Commission minutes of October 9, 1979. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CBAIRMAN IfARItIS DECLAR�D THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Ms, Modig pointed out the motion on page regarding the consideration of the status of unused alleys in Fridley. She asked to have the Planning Couunission concur with this motion so it could be implemented as soon as possible. After reviewing the conditions of the motion it was decided condition 1 was the same as 2 and should be dropped. Also on condition 2, property owner was not defined correctly. The worcLs "adjacent to" should be added after the word owner. Ms, Hughes said she got the impression from the minutes that the alleys would be vacated if not used and the city would probably initiate that action. However, there was a re- luctance to leave alleys unimpxoved, although used. She could not see how the city could xsk homeowners to improve a used alley if they were satisfied using it unimproved. Mr. Harris pointed out they do not plow unimproved alleys. Ms. Hughes said it was basically a philosophical question of hers. Why should the city be initiating such improvements if the homeowners are satisfied now. Mr. Deblon said these alleys are eyesore;and the improvements would helpFreserve t-he neighborhood. It also would eliminate rue problems in the alleys and garbage pick-up problems, Mr. Boardman stated if the alley was thGre, it would be used like a road and therefore should be improved like a road. Ms. Modig said the idea behind the motion was Co get the unimproved alleys improved. - PLANNING COMMISSIQN MEGTLNG OCTOBER 24 1979 PAGE 15 The alleys would then be an asset Co the City. Mr. Hora questioned what happes if only one homeowner was using the alley for access to his garage and the other homeowners wanted to vacate the a11ey. Could access ease- ments be required so the homeowner would not be cut off from his garage. Ms. Modig said that was why they wanted all adjacent property owners contacted. Mr. Soardman pointed out if 1 or 2 homeowners �ere using an unimproved alley, would t hey he the only ones charged for the improvement or would all the adjacent property owners be charged. Mr. Hora said he ran into that problem on his alley. Ms. Hughes asked how the city could get any agreement between homeowners who use the alley and those who don't. She questioned the ciCy initiating such action. She agreed with improvement foY petitioned alleys or vacation requests. Mr. Boardman said he felt the city would not initiate improvements on alleys used by some and not a11. That would be a dynomite situaeion. Mr. Modig said the purpose of the motion was to find out what should be done with each alley. MOTION by Ms. Modig, seconded by Ms. Schnabel to concur with the Gommunity Development Coimnission motion regarding unused alley in Fridley, as corrected: To recommend that Staff come up with a plan for the alleys "being used but unimproved". Each a11ey should be reviewed individually as follows: 1, Contact property owner adjacent to the alley tor feasibility of improvement of alley or vacation of alley. 2, Make a detailed analysis of each a11ey with specific recommendations for each alley. 3. Implement some process for some feedback from the Public Works Department and the Public Service departments on each specific a11ey. "Designated but not being used alleys" should be vacated by the City. "Paved alleys" should continued to be maintained. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN ITARitIS DECLARED THE MOTION GARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 6. RECENE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: OCTOB�R 9. 1979: MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to receive the Appeals Commission minutes of October 9, 1979. Mr. Harris asked if there had been any discussion regarding the clarification of "Stated Hardship" on the variance application. Ms, Schnabel said they did discuss it and staff said they are reluctant to make a decision as to what the haz'dship was. If l'he applicant does not state it directly, they did.not want to put words in their mouths. However, the Appeals Commission did suggest the staff review the application when accepting Cheir money. Ms. Schnabel said if there was or was not a valid hardship it wi11 come out at the Appeals meeting. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 24 1979 PAGE 16 ' UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN I�ARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 7. RECEIVE AOUSING AND REDEVELOPMIIVT AUTHORITI' MINUTES; OCTOBER 11 1979: MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Ms. Modig to receive the Housing and Redevelopment Authority minutes of October 11, 1979. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Boardman if the package for the Center City Project was together yet. Mr. Boardman said it was completed and he will 6e meeting with 7 or 8 developers this week. They hope for proposals by January 15, 1980, that would give them 90 days to review them and make a selection. He also pointed out the resolution on page 5 re- garding the purchasing of property for the Large Family Housing Program. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HLsR12IS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, 8. CONTIN[TED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZONING• MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Modig to continue this item until November 15, 1979, when a special meeting will be held to discuss this item only. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CiIAIRMAN IIAF2RIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 9. OTHER BUSINESS: MOTION by Mr. Hora, seconded by Ms. Schnabel to receive the article on Special Use Permits. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN ItARiZIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. This article had been presented by Mr. Langenfeld at an earlier meeting. Ms. Aarris said he was approached by the owner of Central Auto Parts with a gxoposal to purchase the Chies Qroperty by the junk yard. Re intends to enclose it with a fence and use it to park trucks there. Mr. Boardman said he had talked earlier with Central Auto and said they are presently using the Chies building to take repairable cars, drop motors in them from other junk cars and then sell them. Mr. Boardman said there are a lot of junk cars setting up there now and he hates to see an expansion of this type. They would also need a Special Use Permit for this type of expansion. The city has 2 new construction sites being developed in the area that wiil greatly improve it and the expansion of the junk yard would only create a larger, messy operation. He would try any legal controls he has to stop the expansion. , Mr, liarris said he was not told of the vchicle repair business, but only of the storage facilities. � PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 24 1979 PAGE 17 Mr. Harris asked if there was any way to keep this expansion out. Mr. Boardman stated yes. Central Auto was using the vehicla repair and storage area as an expansion of the junk yard. In order to do so, that requires a Special Use Permit. The city would deny the permit. There are other developers willing to buy the same Chies property that would be more visually compatible. Ms. Hughes questioned if we can stop the junk yard. Mr. Boardman said not the junk yard, but we can stop the e�cpansion request. Mr. Harris pointed out there was no definite proposal, but he had been c�ntacted by this pexson. ADJOi7RNMENT : MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms, Modig to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting of October 24, 1979. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL V.OTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS bECLAIZL+D THE MEETING ADJOURN�D AT 11:35 P.M. Respectfully submitted, � Paula Long, Record g Secretary � :__:_:: l 13 PU6LIC IIEARING . ' 6EfORE THE � PLANNING GOMMISSION . Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City fiall at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, November 7, 1979 in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of: Consideration of a Proposed Preliminary Plat, P.S. #79-02, Innsbruck Village 3rd Addition, by Darrel A. Farr Development Corporation, being a replat of Lots 1 thru 4, Block 8, Innsbruck VilTages, inclusive; those four parts of Lot 1, Block 12, Innsbruck Villages, described as follo�ds: �1. Beginning at the southeast corner of Lot 1, alock 8, Innsbruck Villages; thence easterly along the Easterly extension of the sou th Tine of said Lot 1, Block 8, on an assumed bearing of South 84°34' East a distance of 4.12 feet; thence North 8°24'10" East a distance of 21.03 feet more or less to the south line of Lot 4 - in said Block 8; thence ;aesterly along the south line of said Lot 4 to the southwest corner of said Lot 4; thence southerly along the east line of Lot 1, Block 8, to i:he poinl: of beginning. 2.. Commencing at the southeast corner of Lot 4, Block 8, Innsbruck Villages; thence westerly along the south line of said Lot 4 on an assumed bearing of North 84°34' West a distance of 39.25 feet to the actual point of beginning of the tract of land to be described; thence South 8°24'10" West a distance of Q.90 feet; thence North 81''35!50° West a distance of 17. 37 feet more or less to the south line of said Lot 4, thence easterly along the south line of said Lot 4 to said actual point of beginning. 3. Beginning at the northeast corner of Lot 2, Block 8, Innsbruck Villages; thence souther7y along the east line of said Lot 2 to the northvrest corner of Lot 3 of said Block 8; thence easterly along the north line of said Lot 3 on an assumed bearing of South &4°34' East a distance of 19.75 feet; thence North 81°35'S0" LJest a distance of 11.73 feet; thence North 8°24'10" East a distance of 20.42 feet; thence North 84°34' ldest a distance of 9.10 feet to the point of beginning. 4. Beginning at the southeast corner of Lot 4, Block 8, Innsbruck Villages; thence along the easterly extznsion of the south line of said Lot 4 on an assumed bearing of South II4°3�4' East a distance of 0.91 feet; thence North 8°2�4'10° East a distance af 54.07 feet; thence North 84°34' West a distance of 3.71 fcet to the northeast corner of said Lot 3; thence southerly along the east lines of said Lots 3 and h to the point of beginning. i� Generally located at 5620, 5622, 5624 and 5626 West Bavarian Pass'N.E. Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above matter will be heard at this meeting. .. . Publish: October 24, 1979 _- October 31, 1979 e 9 a � RICHARD H. NRRRIS CNATR!�1AN PLANNING COMMISSION lg 1 � �' �� NUMDER P,S. #79-02 CT7'Y OtP I'IR ULEY MINNCSUTAOSt) PLJ�NNING AND ZONING FORM ° 20 . ; TYPE OP REQUEST APPLICANT'S SIGNATURE Darre1 A. Farr Development Corp � Rezoning Address °�� ° �' n� h� � � �^ �"�" " � � y�"� Special Use Permit Telephone Number 560-8110 (talk to Tom Johnson) PROPGRTY OIPNER'S SIGNATURE $AME Address X Approval of Premin- inary � Final Plat Streets or Alley Vacations Other Telephone Number Fee 310.00Receipt No. � y�� Street Location of Property 5C �0 �� ,�„� , 5�7�. ��k ��,.1'✓��-.� �c�.� Legai Description of Property Replat of Lot 1-4, Block 8, Innsbruck Villages, inclusive; those fo , c , nns ruc i ages Present Zoning Classificat?on R'3 Existing Use of Property townhouse develop. Acreage of Property or type of use and imprP�acedt Describe brie£ly the proposed zoning classification Easy lEgal description for a townhouse Has the present applicant pxeviously saught to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or var9.ance or special use permit ��at�forUInnsbruckeV�llage, 1976 t� X Yes no. What was requested and when? T'he undersigned understands that: (a) a list of all residents and owners of property witliin 300 feet (350 ieet for rezoning) must be attached to this application. (b) This application must Ue signed by all oivners of the property, or an explanation given why this is not the case. (c) ResPonsibility for any defect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to list the names and addresses of all resi3ents and property owners of property in question, belongs to the undersigned. A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attac}ied, sho�ving the folloiaiiig: 1. North Direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on tiie lot. 3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setbacks. 4. Street Names. 5. Location and use of a.djacent existing buildings (within 300 fect)• The undcrsigncd liereby declares that a21 the facts and representations stated in this applicat.ion are true and correct. � DATB �Uly 30, 1979 SIGNATURF: fee received 10-9-79 (APi'LICAN'[') nat� r�i�a Date of Hc�r.i Planning Commission Aprroved�� City Coun.cil Approved (ctaYcs) Dciiicd (dat:cs) [)cnicd_ Planning Commission 10-23-79 _ . _ _ City Council _ MAILING LIST 21 P.S. #79-02 INNSBRUCK YILLAGES 3rd ADDITION REPLAT OF LOTS 1-4, Block 8 Mr. & Mrs. Gregory Kelly 1531 Trapp Court N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. Theodore Lester 1537 Trapp Court N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. Richard Pomerleau 1535 Trapp Court N.E. Frtdley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Pau1 Bier 1533 Trapp Court N.E. fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Gordon Nelson 1521 Trapp Court N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Darrel A. Farr Development Corp, 7386 North 72nd Lane Minneapolis, Mn 55428 Pearl Chrlstinsen 1525 Trapp Court N.E. 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' 1 L� . �J � r � � � Z C � � � � � � � C ~ r o � � � ' � vl ��I. . ..�fV' � PUBI.IC HEARING 6EFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the P1anning Commissiorr of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, November 7, 1979 in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of: Consideration of a Proposed preliminary Plat, P.S. #79-03, Blomberg Estates, by Karla A. Blomberg, being a replat of Lots 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and the West Half of Lot 10, Lots 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 79 and 20, Block 2, Spring Lake Park Lakeside Addition; and Lots 3, 4 and 5, Block 1, Andco Terrace. Generally bound by Osborne Road on the North, Z5,th Avenue N.E. on the South, Arthur Street N.E, on the West and Lakeside Road N.E, on the East. Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the abpve matter will be heard at this meeting. r Publish: October 24, 1979 Octob.er 31, 1979 RICHARD H. HARRIS CHAIR"1AN PLANNIPJG COMMISSION 24 �� CIT1' OP FRIDL1iY MINNBSOTA �PLANNING AND 'LONTNG POItM NUMBCR��"��`3 � � APPLICMlT'S SIGNA'IURG ,(,�,��,��] Q Address 1661 Camelot�ane Fridley 5543? Telephone Number 571-OI59/ 571-420Q PROPERTY 0{9NBR'S SIGNATURE � 25 TYPE OP RGQUEST Rezoning Special Use Permit �` Approval of Premin- inary Fi Final Plat Streets or Alley Vacations . Address $d� Other Telephone Number $ame g °'' 7C�� Fee Sy%i. Receipt No.��,_ Street Location of Property btwn. ArthUC St. N.E. & Lake5lde Legal Aescription of Property Lengthy See AttaChCd Fresent Zoning Classification �—f &xisting Use of Property �/i��-'!i'N � Acreage of Property 11.9 Describe briefly the proposed zoning classification or type of use and improvemen proposed Sing12 fam�ly residential __ ��./,�-�- .�-t� Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or �ariance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? yes i�no. Wliat was requested and when? The undersigned understands that: (a} a list of all residents and owners of property within 300 feet (350 feet fox rezoning) must be attached to this appl�_cation. (b) This application must be signed by all owners of the property, or an exglanation given why this is not the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to list the names and addresses of all residents and property owners of property in question, belongs to the undersigned. A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the following: 1. North Direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lot. 3. Dimensions of property, propased structure, and front and side setbacks. 4. Street Names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 300 feet). 77ie undersignec} hereby declares that all the facts and representations stated in tiiis application are true and correct. ^� DATE in t� �o SiGNATURE �z /,� ,(�'r"''fw"`�},' — . PPLICrWT) Date Filed ' Date of Hearing Planni.ng Commission Approved_ Cir.y Council Approvcd (datcs) Denied (dates) Dcni.cd_ � MA'ILING LIST P.S. �79-03, BL�MBERG ESTATES BY KARLA BLOMBERG Karla Blomberg 1661 Camelot Lane N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 City of Spring Lake Park 1201 81 Avenue N.E. Spring Lake Park, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Harold Holmberg 1584 75th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Allan Lambert 1574 75th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Marlin Munter 1564 75th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. David Anderberg 7570 Lakeside Road N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Leo Heyne 7550 Lakeside Drive N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Gary Hagen 7581 Lakeside Road N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. �uane Hass 7559 Lakeside �rive N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. David Lennox 7547 Lakeside Road N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. 6ordon Shafer 7584 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Spring Lake Park 5chool District #16 �istrict Office 8000 Hiqhway #65 Spring Lake Park, Mn 55432 PLANNING COMMISSION 10-23-79 26 CITY COUNCIL Mr. & Mrs. Joseph Labery 7572 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Bruce Johnson 7560 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Doublas Stam 7548 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. James Kovar 7536 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Alton Ahlstrom 7524 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Gerald Hollom 7512 McKinley Street N.E. Frtdley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. James Whittenberg 1645 75th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Daniel Fish 7501 Lakeside N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Richard Owens 7513 Lakeside Road N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Charles Cornell 7525 Lakeside Road N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Donald Bourke 7645 Lakeside Road N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Larry 6ustafson 1641 76th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mailing List, Page 2 P.S. #79-03, alomberg Estates Mr. & Mrs. RObert Richardson 1621 76th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Craig Johnson 7609 Lakeside Road N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Darrell Carlberg 1640 76th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. David Bellows 1620 76th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Eugene Pilipanko and Karen Edebach 7591 Lakeside Road N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Howard Kersten 7698 Arthur Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Richard Miscencik 7688 Arthur Strezt N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Alan 5chusted 7676 Arthur Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Genet & Barbara Lahudis 7664 Arthur Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Michael Jambik 7650 Arthur Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Judith A. Meyer 7638 Arthur Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Daniel Ellingson 7626 Arthur Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. 6regory Kline 7612 Arthur Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. John Hennes 7600 Arthur Street N.E. Fridley., Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Ellwyn Healy 7601 6acon Drive N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. W. M. Sharp 7613 Bacon �rive N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Wallace Willman 7627 Bacon Drive N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Joseph Holiday 7639 Bacon Drive N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. James Holt 7651 Qacon Drive N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr: & Mrs. Robert Rehard 7665 Bacon Drive N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. David Popp 7677 Bacon Drive N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Ronald Carlson 768y Bacon Drive N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Bernard Bleske 7616 Arthur Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Jon Strasser 7508 Arthur Street N,E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Vernon Thomsen 1483 75th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Leland Roppe 1483 75th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. David Thomas 1463 75th Avenue N.E. 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' November 12', � 19 . 7:30� :. to cansi r t e,0 1 ng m3tter, Stem - Request for an amended Special Use Permit and a Variance Petitionez''- Lloyd Mostrom, representing C& V Enterprises Location - 1224 Osborne Road The petitioner is requesting an amended Specia7.,Use Permit to allow the const�'uction of a 60! x 160' block storage building on that portion of Lot 7 Auditors Subdivision No. 124 abutting Central Avenue N.E. on the East and abutting the propesty.at 7730 Central Avenue N.E. The request also asks for a variance on the front setback from 40' to 30' because of a sanitary sewer easement at the West end of said property. The general location of said request is 7740 Cen{-s al Ave N.E. .Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an onPort�mitY at the abave stated time and place. �:t� ublish;_ November 2•;:1979 /��'%: L�g.C'�/ J % �— ria a B. B— us '�.�, - Cit� Clexk-'iYeas�er � 1f � 31 P �..4..::� , P�KS AJ4t3 RECREATION C01�1ISSEON MEETING Qctober 17, 1979 . CAL� T� ORDER' , 1�#ci�Chairperson Jan Seeger called the meeting to�erder at 7:33 P.M. RUk' CALL: �bers Present: Jan 5eeger,.Dave Kondrick, Dick Young, Betty Mech (arrived at 7:40) Barbara Nughes (arrived at 7:45) Members Absent: None Others Present: Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director . Siah St. Clair, Naturalist, Cit� of Fridley � Connie McMillion, City af Fridtey � ' . Bi]1 De61on, Associate Planner. . ARPROYAL OF SEPTEMBER 19, 1979 PARKS & RECREATION CQMMISSION MINUTE_S: �(t��UN bx Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Ms. Mecfi, ta approve the Sepiember 19, 1975, Parks & Recreati"on Commission minutes as written. Upon a voice vote, �,�i#1.voting,aye „ Vice-Chairperson Seeger declared the motion carried unanimously. APPRt1YAL OF A6ENDA: Wic�-Chairman Seeger asked if there were any additions or corrections to the:agenda? Mr. Boudreau stated that under the Director's Repart, he would like to add a repart-from hfs. McMillion, and under Old Business he Would like to add the receiving of the<Gritical Area's section of the Gomprehensive Plan, and under 4�her Business, he added a report concerning Woodcrest Baptist Church. :IAQ'fION by Mr. t�i�ung, seconded by Mr. Kondrick, that the agenda be approved "&ith the additis�ns by Mr. Boudreau. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vi�e- Chaarperson 5eeger declared the motion carried unanimously. I. DIRE�70R'S REPORT: A. Report - North R�c,B�ilding Proqress �tr, t3oudreau stated ihat �er;felt they wer2 at a stage in which staff haa reviewed �-., . "� ";�;plans; and revised the plans, several times. At :the next meeting wi.th the -`°�aFChfk�ets, they would'give an idea of the cost per square foot for the buildin_g. i4r.;BottclrPau stated this was basically the plan the Cortmission had reviewed �at :ihe-�pen mee�ing with the City Counci1 and Springbrook Nature Center Foundation, �'�e,end produci would have the basic fic�or plan with a few modifications. �4s.'Seeger stated that the last time they were before xhe Commission, it had sounded l�k� ,they we�e having some difficulty in h8�ing the architects understand what v wa� desi.red. She asked if this was still true: Mr. St. Clair stated they;.may be a 19ttle premature in dealing with some of the sma77er things they �ni cha�ged. These things could be dealt better with in the future once they qet`past hurdles of cost and structure design. He said they had changed the design a little bit, but basicatly all that has changed was the exit that was to come>off the ampitheatre above the lavatories has been removed. This area wi1T now connect with the 19ve animaT room and serve as an additional storage area. :Mr. St. Clair then drew a plan fpr the Cot�ni'ssion �how4ng the chan9es that. Htei�e mdde, ' Ms. Seeger questioned whether they were not losing money with each delay of the buitding. Mr. Boudreau stated they �ere aware of the possibility of increased costs, however, people are looking for work, so it may be likely that they could get a better bid. Discussion ensued on the pros and cons of when t�ould be the best time to begin construction to get the b�sL bids versus the inflation factor bf waiting. B. R�ort - Mississippi Road Fark Chairperson HugheS asked fif the Commission would aliow Mr. Ed Wilmes to give an update on the Flississippi Road Park? Mr. Ed Wilmes stated he felt the Islands of Peace had reached the span started hack in December, 1979, in that they have covered Gil Hodges Island, Chases Island, and now have a request irt for the acquisition of Durham Island throWgh the Great River Road Project. They'are asking for $339.,000.00. He has heard that the people in Washipgton are revising their funding for spur routes, which hopefu7ly will inctude the Istand's of Peace, and possibly the inclusion of the FMC proaerty. He stated �hat tfie fands that were requeste8 from Great River Road Pro,iect would be for the acquisttion of Durfiam., Is}and ($80,OQO.Ofl) and also for the building of a 6rldge, parkfing 1ot,•and an addition to an exisiting building, a cross-over wdter sysCem on Chase's I�1and, asid some pi'cnic tables. He stated he expected to hear from the Great River Road people sometime in December. This was the same agency,tfiat Etas committed funding of $1,fi65,000.00 for the acquisition of the fMC property. Ne said that in the past tYre Metro Council has recommended that tNe County of Anoka proceed along with tfie master plan to include the FMC property, along with Durham, and the Island's of Peace, to become a regional park. Oncz this was all designated as a regional park,:it would have on-going money every year for maintenarrce artd operations. Mr. Wi}mes said this would all be under Gounty jurisdiction then; which he personally felt was the rigfit way to go. If for some reason, Rnoka County did not carry out it's responsibilities, then he wauld oppose this a71 being under the County; He stated that the proposed plan � for the FMG property was to�haye overlooks, bike trails, hikirtg trails, parking, etc. They are also discussing the use that can be made of two buiidings on the property. Mr. Witmes said the County ,Commissioners were gc�ing to visit the Island's of Peace in Fridley, Octaber 26th. He said that in the past FMC had donated equipment and manpower to help develop the Island's of Reace. He said that Lee Ann Sporre of the Environmental Quality;Commission was concerned about the brid�e for the Island's of Peaee. She felt it could have a�significant visual impact on the site. He said the bridge cras a steel- structure approxirnately 125 feet long, with a wooden deck. The steel, in time, wrll iurn a different color that will blend in with the environment. He further stated that he felt that if ihey do not provide accessibility to the handicapped, and tMt elderly, to these pTaees, it wiTl have a psychological impact on these pe�ple. Ne said that this br?dge wi}1 earry traffie to an area of outdoor recreation, rehabYliL�tion, and rature study. He said the bridge had been . :. . ,.._._.. �};_. P KS & RECREATIQH EOt�;SSIdN-MEETIN6, OCTOBER 1J,.1979 � a�raved, and it wil3,fik in with the envi�}��.' Ms.; littghes questioned w�sp taad approved the briAge: - - t�r: #il�nes stated that t#�e Army Corp. of Engineers were out an� the City Eq�MCtl had'approved itmding for the bridge. Ne 5aid that concerning the vbridge, they had ta lo.ak.at the type of clientele who would be using this park: Ha said that wittt'the proper facilities, the visitations to this total faci}ity was unlimitecf. Ne said the key to the entire project had been acquistion • of;the land, the develoj�ient of it, and utilitizing it. He said the parking lot, the brfdge, and the building should be completed by Apri1 1, 1980. They � ere hoidin+� pff the� dedi�ation until the entire area was completed. Ms. Hughes asked Mr. Boudreau if her understanding that the City ahd County have jointly applied for money under the Grea� R9Yer Road funding was correct. Mr. Bnudreau siated that to his knowledge, the Eounty has made application �vith City approval of thear master plan. He a}so�wanted the Commission made .arrere-that when they were awarded the $360,000:00 for North Park, the County was strongly encouraged by the Metropolitan Council to redraft their master p'lan to include the FMC property, and connect ?t with the Islands of Peace and Du'r.ham Islactd. This would have the acreage to call it a regional park. With that assurance, and the pusb from the Metro Counc�l, not as a matter of record, but that if it was done, the money would probably be made available. Afs. ifughes stated it was her understanding that although the money had not been alloeated, the money had been reserved. She further questioned that when this c�Oe.s come to pass, would the Comnission have a chance to look at it? �4r. Boadreau stated when fie was made aware of any action he would let the Commission know. For an advisory Commission to "work" they should be given anioppartunity for iqput prior to decision makirrg. G.' Rece'ive Donation - Fridley Cion's Club Mr Boudreau passed copies of a letter and check that was given to the Parks & Recreation Department from the Fridley Lion's Club; to the Commission memebers. (see attacl�ent}, P�iTiDN by Ms.Seeger, seconded by Mr. Young, to receive the co�nunication from the Frid7°ey Lion's Glub.- Upvn a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried urranf,�usTy. hh`. Boudreau stated he vrou3d like the Commission to consider and give him their recttmmendatis�►ss.on where=•to_put the second Big Toy and volleybatl standard that - vias to be pr�rcdased witi�,�'ttris, donation. Dascussion ensued as to the best park area for tfie placement of the Big Toy;.and vnlleyball standard. The Gpumission decided what criteria they woutd want for p1;ac�aent of this equipment, a;.study to show how many children were im the area that could use a Big Toy, since<it was primarily suited for younger children. . Ms. Hugh�s'questioned if.;�.* Cft�n's;Glub had heen sent a thank you for this ,-' .dQRd�iDfl?-. � � � ' � . � � .. Nr'. 9audreau said that yes,.they were gaing to send the Club a certicate of A�presiat,ion. Ms. McMiliion stated they`,were running a relatively new program called Senior Slim which vras a senior citizen exercise class. She further stated they have added a new twist to the class, they have added disco dancing. This class was at the Village 6reen, and at Parkview. She stated it was offered at t0:00 A.M. at Vi.ilage Green on Monday's, and at Parkview.on Wednesday's at 10:30 P.M. She said that it would be interesting for anyone to come and view tMis program. Ms. McMillion stated they are having a craft fair on October 27th. She stated that they were doing this:'with Community Education. This wi1J be from 9:00 to 5:00 at Parkview. When they`siarted this pro�ram they ho�ed to have 20 participants, and now the� have 40, and have to turn peopie away. Ms. McMillion stated that�"the halloween window decorating contest was now going on. She said she needed a volunteer from the Commission to be a judge 9n this competition. Mr.';Kondrick volunteered to be a judge, with Ms. Hugfies as a substitute. II. NEW BUSINESS: A. Review of Fee Schedule - Winter Programs Mr. Boudreau stated the cfianges in the fee sshedule were as follows: Couples Volleyba7l, last year -$25.00 - increase to $35.00 Tue�day Women's Vol}eyball, 7ast year -$65;00 - inerease to $90.00 Tuesday fvening Men's.Basketball, ' � last year - $100 - increase to $125.00 Men's Volleyball, last year -$55.00 - tncrease to $90.00 Men's Basketball on Thursday, last year f$125.U0 - increase to $150.00 Mr. Boudreau stated that in asking for the incre'ases,they looked at the cost of referee's, cost of tropkiy's, the registration fees, the administrative time to set up schedules, etc. MOTION by A4s. Seeger, seconded by Mr. Kondrick, to approve the fee rate increases as stated by Mr. Boudreau'. Upon a vorce vote, a11 voting aye, tfie motion carried unanimously. B. Request - Blaine - Spring Lake Park Hocl:ey Mr. Boudreau stated that as'in years past, he has received a request for the use � of the Madsen Park hockey`rink from Blaine-Spring Lake Park Hockey Association. Also they, request the usee and reservation time, from Flannery Park. He stated this is because the people are Fridley residents living in the Melody Manor area, hut are in the Spring Lake Park school district. Mr. 6oudreau said it came down to the matter of princip}e;,should we schedule hockey rink's for another city's program at the cosi of maintaireing those rinks out of Frid}ey funds when the people are residents of Fridtey yet chose to take part in another City's program? , Chairperson Hughes asked Mr. Bou�reau for his recommendation. Mr. Boudreau stated he wo�Td like to recommen�l th�t this request could be accomodated after frid}ey?s'Hock�y Associatiort amc� programs are scheduled '� �; r:` , „��,?� :t:. ' K$ /1NQ MUTIQN hX Bi:aine-5pi dt1t� pi'+Q�1'"i . un��aious' 6, ;' Ph�#a Mr, Young, 5e�e� ^ing lake Park ,Ho �ms are schet��ed 'Y ronhv - Siah �t-.._ �ed by Mr. Kondrick, to accomnrodate the request from ckey Associatiori'afti►^ Fridley's Hockey Associstion . Upon a voice vote, all 1�oting aye, the motion carried Clair (Naturalist) MC!« ��.�itair said t#a€-interpretation was not infot�mation. Ne stated there ar2 a�driety of ined�{m�'to give information. He stated that different people r�lat�:better to certrain mediums, so therefore there must be different and a vari�� Qf°medivau �vaiidbie to teach people. He said he had titled his ��q�St�phy "Nature at ,y�uM Doorstep" because of the fact that sometimes,your 1c3r�rd is the best plac� to learn about nature: #r: St. Clair sai,d he eonsiders the ability to communicate more important to a i��f�ralist than`knowledge and information, because a persorn may have the k�oWiedge-but did not know how to communicate it to the people. He said there are personal: and non-persanal methods that are used at the nature center. An " er:ample of nun-personaT�+a� self-guided trails where a naturalist was not irtterµreLatirrg for an indiuidual, and a personal method would be classes. He stated the best nature:walk was the one that went the shortest distance. This gives:a person time to took and listen, instead of trying to cover a lot of '-distance with no chance to comnunicate or learn. Mh?: St.'Clair stated that his main thrust was aimed at families, and then to �speci#3c age and interest groups. He felt a nature center was reatly an rqcreational and educati.onal devise that brings land and people together on intimate.terms;> where'the young and the old under the inspiration and quid�rree of a£rained interpretive naturalist are taught to comprehend the rna'�u�°aCl worTd around them. He further stated that a nature center seeks to acqua�nt:yourtg children with the mysteries and the wonders of nature. It affQrds teenagers an oppArtunity to engage in wholesome activities that are bdt.t►.eonstructive and educational. It provides a training ground for the ytiuth. ft permits aduTts to �s�ttlize its facilities and resources for serious ��Gudy.:and to pursue nature hobbies. It was also a place where,�ami�Tes cdq � � gu for a waik tn the woocls. or around a lake, for real en�oyment and pleasant -recrea�ion. 4�'='"�� .:�nc�rning fiimsel:f, Mr. Si. Clair stated tMat because interpretation was not "� �r�n#q�ndtfon, but rather' tha method in which infatnnation was revealed to the � s,��.�sitor, and there€Qe�, he was primarily concerned with comnunication skill, �itid �en�5'to �mphasite that more than technical expertise of natural seie�ce �, �� £or�t,3iio,n, as a lot af information about nature cortmunicated poorly, F:'� •"�f3�►lishes much less-than a small amount of information comnunicated very well. ;� . ' 14r. St. Clair stated t�at a primary goal was to offer positive recreational experiences in the enviratjmer►tal interpretive area for the Fridley public. ° Ne dt�es flat want to compete with any county, statQ or national park, or center, .bt�k,ra�her 6e a municipal program that �ive� residents imnediate concepts they i�e7ra deitl with within the fridley area. Mr. 5#, CTai� said they had an exhibit at the State Fair last sumner, for which tt�ey reteived�a-ribbon; and they will also have an exhibit at the Fridley State Batsk again this year. They atso have had a variety of scheduled displays,at the c@rt#er-at different times. He h�s to accur�ulate �►terials far another di-5piay,.. Ne said he now had a part-time s�cretary, and a;part-.time interpreter. They have , 8;�ewsaetter; and fal� scheduled µrograros, with an on-going program on,1�JCC0. PARKS & RECREATION COh�SSTON MEETING DCTOBER 17, 1979 PAGE 6 Mr. St. Clair felt thai' being connected with the Rark and Recreation Department was a very positive thiny.` III. OLD BUSINESS: � - None IV. OTHER BUSINESS: A. Receive Critical Area's Section_bf Comprehensive Plan Mr. Boudreau said this section had been revie�ped befoxe. The Go�nission should receive tfiis do�ument, and go over it,'and if there were any questions they should tre deal`t with at the next meeting. Mr. Bi11 Deblon, Associate Planner, stated that what had been added was an implementation section. He said tMis section would be sent to the Metropolitan Council for their review. Frbm there it will go to the fnvironmental Quality Board for their approval. When it comes back from there, ix should 6e adopted as an ordinance for pratection of the Critical Area's.resources. He stated the plan was a policy for the management of these areas, which this Commission fias already gone through, and'approved. Mr. Deblon said that in ealy Oetober they had received a notice stating that the Metropoiitan Councii had only received plans from certa9n cortanunitie�, and they would be inquiring`why they had not received the plans from other communities as yet. Fridiey was one.of those cemmunities. Ne said they had been working on this section to get it into a draft format so it could be reviewed by the Gomm9ssions, Planni�g Commission and City Couneil, and pub}ic review. A draft copy..was also s�nt to the Metropolitan Council to see if they were on.the right track. He;has received a call from tfiem, and they would be mailing their comments ag there were some things they wanted changed,� but these ehanges would�'t be majot^ in scope. Ne said this draft copy was being seen by the Environmental Qua'fity Commission, the Parks & Recreation Correnission and the Comnunity Development-Carrmission. The Planning Commission would be reviewing it October 24��t.' Chairperson Hughes said'that the Commission members should express their input to her sometime this week as their representative on the Ptanning Cor�nnission, or else they would have to make their comments at the Plannina Commission meeting, as there would not be a chance to make any official cort�nent or input on thi5 Section. MOTION by Ms. Mech, seconded by Mr. Young, to receive the Critical Areas's Plan draft dated D�tober, 1979: Upon a voice vate, all voting aye, Chairperson Hughes declared the motion carried unanimousty. Ghairperson Hughes said:that she did note that a parcel of land off of River's Edge Way, which gave riyer access throuyh someone's back yard, had not been addressed in this plan. She felt that if they were going to have boating on the River, this was a good place, and would'really fit into this kind of plan. Mr. De67on said this wa5 not addressed ;n'the.pian, but felt_it should.be. Mr. Boudreau felt the p�licy statements in the plan rrould cover River's Edge Way. �� , . ��; _ � =#'Att�S pltQ _�REGREATION CQt+�4i55I0N MEETING OCF�ER" 17, '1979 ' PAGE 7 �MS.:Seeger said she thought ft would giae some idea ta the City's recreational us�s i� the maps shawed �t'.was on+ the otirLr 3tde of the river. �r. t�blon sta�ed �hat he agreed, but that t#�e ?9etro Council wanted only the . Gi,�y',�"Q1an, and then td�ira would put it a'tt tp�ether in a comprehensive �1^eation` Plan. ' 1 �1. Woottcrest BaRtist Church Report ' o i bl of 4J d r t B t' t Mr. 6oudreav stated they have the yearly ,ccurr ng,pro em oo c es ap is Chuxch School atilizing the Ciiy's facilities at Madsen Park. He said they � �ave he�� us##�g'Locke Park, but because of an irr-igation system being put in at Locke Park,-they have gone to Madsen Park. He said they use the park facilities for theTr vars9ty soccer, their every day physi�a�education activiiies, and as :their playground. He stated the legal apinion they��d= received before was that there rras no way the City could legally stop the school from this use. Chairpersoq Hughes questioned as to why the G4ty would want to stop them. t4rr,8ottkreau said that when you put 500 school age children on a park area, day-in and day-out,.that was a lot of use. He went on to say, that the schaol has not cQOperated we71 in tMe past, and the help they have received was mare of a detriment than a he1p. He felt this.school was�+using public facilities to suppTement thefr education program, and their organized sport program. How far does the City Park and Recreation Department go to service an educational system7 �fiairperson Hughes said Mr. Boudreau should log the time, use and wear, of the facilities, and maybe they could be approached for some change �n use, or `money to hetp maintain the facility. Ms: Seeger`questioned what type Qf arrangeme�t the City has with a school like - 6race H9gh Schoot? Mr: Boudreau said they have coaperated in that tfie City has piaced a hockey ri�ak on 6nace property. Grace would be putting in a building at their expense, •.and:wfii pay the elec�ric bill for the lights,'and use it for school classes. �. 7he..City wi11 use it for hackey. The City aroul� he putting up-a sign that this dtas 3 public rink.` He said that jn the past, 6race has let tBe City use some of tfie�r o�tdoor area for the City's sumner proyram. �1r,.Boudreau safid that fie fiad suggested to Woodcrest that they could maybe purchase �e bteacfiers or fenc-ing for the park, and the response he received was they ': ''#�Y� �io money and would`tie ab1e to supply manpower only. He felt that before ". next year, the Conrcnission sf�ouad sit down with the Woodcrest Baptist Church Schoot ;�peo�t}e dhd arri�ve at s�e de�9sions for 198Q. �� _.. _. .. C, "R�--equest for pundinq fvr Sprin� Lake Park Community Services '`�tdtr�4rson Hughes questianed if Mr. Boudreau could update her on the grant that may or may not have been started, for funding nf Spr.ing Lake Park � Community Services? . 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Sgorre &tated`'. i fiir Aighway 1� was be ope�t�nqs 3n tt� ctoise ebacement i�s draft EISr "There �ighttime, no3se Le+ men� measur�s.�� :Si �hat [i�ere �s unC�i �yP1.��i nai�� bat� �.. ItY.� Uehf6n. as�ed- �ti �aiCernatiues for �� t�s. Spnrre state�°-t, �he public opini.on Ms`: Metcalf stated needed because of:t ' tl�e more highwaY�`-3 Ms. Sporre ;a�kad ii ;.� possib%e ws}* tsg i�a enevuragi�tg mass"xf I��', liara s��ted tt�� i�ave tile petenti�l_ l�ixport; fie Gould'e p�c:i�ary imp�c�s ts� . �eyond tire EiS, h�- th�t h� did no� TctitG 4. :y - Y; u.� �ti£y��her � Mr. Deb: ' 17 at 7:� �� was to ed Commi.sa {' �ER i5> 1979 � PAGE 2 � 1 i��presentaCfve f�ant.SRW to �iio-ittec3 these' repor,ts to the 4r�: Je��a�ei Board�n, City „Man3g$m�nt,G"omm3ttee had not �, ��d ttiat 3�e wou111 tike to tfng. . the nex�. North M�i�g�e3�t &x�ted he wn�2d. � 3an. �t t�e Cocmxai�ftp �zAtez a "Nctrth Airgort - T.H. 10 memti��s Co 2ttehd ttiis' meeting. '�a� t�e things thaY. both � �tt� �ae, wh�re �e� c� e-�ie�s and [�at} the�'t�f �e ' �a� �:�5he qut�r�td tfte �fc �-i� Y �rA�ver, sctt�ie'u�tgYtai :t� ,�ds �ean be �ch:�y�d ev t �� :- �:' i,q��znt memb$r8 t�e no-build s >� • . e ha�'soese; problems Witt T��,�* vqYtittn�s ef ira€f1 h�d, tt�� more cars �t he &�it�issgon was speztd9 �. n$ ��;��3Y, Plaus'. 'S�fs �ivs into f�� eco�rd, antiYled>:�. ` 3$'hu'a� 9 �. . :ereon, Sp�+are vot3.ng - i"the ma,tian carri.ed. her in the dsaft EiS � �cai' °acc;ess, there would � ' thep cauttt. �tit _achieve � :ug sta�emenC from the �' j l3 G(3 W�'32i�lEY Cl1C A4.�.C�.A. .. �., .th tqpical nc�ise ai�aCe- � : s�ated: Chep were saying otandards usfng Che ' � Fored ane of tha ,faLlatrit�g xe'upg�xd3ng, or,[h� YelACation? : laegi�i�g �a fkntt:,out what it. '3fi€- £eit ttiat it`was probably What 6othered her. was.;that re ar�. 'as �'nst the� re1•oaat�on no[ yy h�,: :f£orts in`t� best ro�at��sioti �h�uld be ys. '�3 iU aad did not � cir the.An�ka County nvotve� b�yand tt�e �f �tie iiripkication> ,VO�ued,: He;agreea th�3r efforts; - . � r:�.� . � 4$�.`Lt��WiCi1 P4S ;$"�lt7'�'#iE aud��-�o an;recafd�;€ [[c�e�d �ii' ��. MY : ° Pet�jt'�-S �': >C� 3text mee4��tg,s ,,x , �� e racrnld bes; �Rart �#o�ild limit: r.� �� aftd �afi ' i�• b'�..{+�:;gre�ter ir%1 ce'�h�ugh F�id�ep; T�IG A3f8; : $ZCE-�i�T?t� [� S�i3iNAxS � �gue.d ap: tlie Co�ri� ��b� Cite se�fnaies �ew p£ the ��st � ��az'ecar�tu' , Y�iak� �alke�i a6oui Caetropnl3Can ai�8.i iie Pr,ob3:ems a� gaj y £ei€'��and .use�:a,� �asts �'. 2�re:: � �'fie t�thfia��a�Gr� t� 'c�F�F-add np atsc� �_��' �ati Th@,�. ; � Y'; ,pv� cr+��; �. 3. : ; �: � �2 �mare ��;bui#t tlse �bu�� saiwiee �� &�`r�,ee tr�;i+een dis- �s�nsion st�csuYd fi.iid out '' ��ie ths Comnmissiori's I�p�'Tl�g'the Cxansit 'ay+rztem ' sost'imgortant thf� •�hey �� £auor of a bett�r stctfnue the items, �°f.H. 1Q°` _d �m ttseir agenda,' �;he �ztt`oct khese'�tea�;"in ``' �xa�s' toward bexter; tra�s-. . . �"'§u$gasted.that m� end ti3A 'DECLARE� THE M�3_T.IfR� �hese seminats, a�d the �s�1:-:tq attei�d. tFe"atated �-.E1et.ober 7: "�tetiro- ' , _ . � .:�. 1., . . :�€ dif€icu],t and eomplex� ;d be playin� a b�g __ �--- ��e�y,_y _, cFie i�S�TES� Tsut t�e urabiezos 3x toil Chrough ��iie�" ea .of water qualiGp. gs�aY, Saue.sAme o�'.Che avirotuuenta} ."awa�e�tes's y sole ia'��1n$' ucar9.on. [�F�3:a�cs, Minnaso�&'was Y`@'i'��`.�'.�OII� �Ap.�CF7CjT'. `i��4E. �D�.`IiiY,fU'. atict''a�:so,bv reauir�na. �a�t �C�sheets�. Ghe�. "�� °ixi.�fNa�se he` &tQim `s�w�r Iay4sit � '.�, . ��. ,�`�> .; .. _ . �. _ _ �_ _. �:;��:' � a :Sn�S `s�: � AS� . : a�elrf irou�i �nd -f tliat many citp ' goin� iC: eai P�anz s�sme i.� Sr ' hens; ponda �rorr C,Aitti] 3:. i 2� , i �Y3d9 -c�ty Y`es�41 �s4�g �G�i�t' cons� Gree1 the i �x�to' •2`f.: ct have t*IS , 4 shou] . st t} 6s% ii Mx : I these. �'O� e �C�f �� iL�PI'�NT :4 �x�h �tated azlequate �ff leval; tAese typ ^re stated 6� : , rre stated`�,hat �� s�*QU7 h�'-i� a 3e�k�ii�5 I`�1G� tt S}ai� City CauricY ' �ei t'tez�dattce? ` � ' '�.: , . . �-a�e ._ _ - SnTt�ese mar f wa� noC, a7z �wa an excel , VICE-CHA AND T.H, been ras�1 Y reteitt � a lt thaC`in city staP# !udreau,: Pa that �"r1d going E:o m �ringbrQOk iT. BoUdYe.a s not �o'i ��gn� e� e �vJ . like to lrnow . Shaiald �i[ g or should �`& k�'i, .2�79 � q .'i�RGE 4 � � '- i � ,, Co �ec�iee intc�G�e�,record °Gity oP �agr�", !witix--the avinPr.etteci��.ve Se�ker PY�zi-�of � �� ; exampi� Qf one co�nau�i�.ty � ra�nag�megrt . ` 81aY� sLe��ei -"she � � � �£f, the �ngineetzng� Uepartment,,, � 3nd CiEy Gouncil, .�he tFso�ght Cd1ey 'c5i�:1 come e�utside ,Fridley's '8�a�e, �2oundsvi.ew> �te., are cat� $e `d�velcr�ed ", and im�rTemented . esit �est years of: its c�prehensive , _ and posaib},y theyr c,�rt:grevent Shs.statecl a sCudy dpcument Two fi�ures from`the Eompre-` a�s ansl tl�ese show e�amples of �ctu�es £or stoxai w�it�r.: tt�sorr xa� n�:cr,i�t�u � rxrriort IN BF.ASidS BY b.Pl,f;.z �' :, g ; ��isine,�dqmonstraied to � � ',�� 3s�d the 9:ssu� w�s'resolyed at ° i ::futu:^e� the� wpuld kike to �e1. c.&�v�si�. .ne 5t.a�sc�; az:;C`o bring them t�s: ,t3€ese things .,, ;a.' � � ; a � Y� : < . ,.. :L^ .'6r .' creat3vn Director, had �e# noti�i,�d bg,Blaine fol�.awing f�nd�y, Co - �t� pYan t�o; use i'leasure t it t4:her-attention was sure�.C�`eek,_-�will�.it ;�gQ - n sitau�d ha aw�e of this , 2� , what af'£ect -iuill that ..... . �.t.'. ..�.. ti�e'C�ommissiox�'s ro1�e �ssion be in StCectdance u�gese rhat Gitp Staff ;; . �,ateel they :would. Iike �€�it tlte Commis�ion's �tf's aCtent3can, as the t k f : I f � £ F .Q� and�a =t :ms with fl s�&, natvze:wa�� v�';�Seeds to he ar - �--- - � �� `�� ` < �: �_� , �::, ,�;;�� . �� :: - � �� ,; -� ��#,vss t#te : "Gzitica� ` � : ��, ,; �v#�d;to have beaTZ • ° ;' ��e�e was take ;�he , °'. L . t Pl�an 'and put '�tb the'Rul$s aad �1, aa�d ehcy alsa had �rk�s Px-og�'�w. , `� Kiroume-yskal t�saki�y �on "of"Lh� Cc�pr�+.h�n.- ;: � )re�n inc°luded a� _``` �e stated Lhat on;;Fa�e ;qa7.s that it wil�. �. �k was her opiuion l'� C `Ca deve�op thats; goAl lands arad_£�eili�ies `"';4 Ls , sai� fi� Che �l�A • '' ihe Co£a1-�pxpgratn'- . �� Ghe PeY`ka- &' Rec�ea��+ou _ �' 4 = :'-� ++.Y C��:��.`with �u the=.maps "�'; axcel af Iaud �ras:��iug ,��a y�cs�prehensive � " =ra; �rtmFa-r.rhrnuefi anv�.r`eai , : `':°� $eg��dless qf the �"i' .. ,�,: ��da up on i�risl�.ey �.` 4 'deaifilon gtring;. `� ;,�.'ough Dsve 2c�ricelsnn �.� . ��ng 'the� r�v3.e�v � �',' �F'�:}fe6e:- gF.c>p6saj.9 ' � �� GAUneiZ. She; waaid '� e'��ixical Areas��lan z-�� ie: decisi�n on th� � , � �� 'RSY. �YSVe �Y1ee1�oA, r� rie�kei� re8�iiskg the � �� poses...�' �S�e s�ated ' �� ty° Bud `c#ty Yeve�. pr.it�r �2y diacassfacts, �he _� :h�ve beers �iiav�kved, ' �� ai% ��mmi,ssit�n dct �his � .� _�'� .�p �� ° � � `,3: " ,.: x: n�' %yk . � �Z1tfJt+'�3�Af: QUA; U�DN . A�_" V4I�`s" uOT� T(i `�€ECL�L�E'; �NE Cti: Mr, Aasa sta:ted 'tl of i.t being a p�r? b�pctrtuniry.Yo Y�'^ r�alvabte �p7�cs £o� t�'ION �X ;�75.: SPC3J r��az�rc : cor�ssi� QUESTi4N�'�� THI� , Cfl2�}MTSSTf3N'�d ,THE BETNG I�A�fE AWARE � U�'4� A-VOICE VUTE �A�IE$ iRdhNiM9US] Mr. Hnra sta.t�d h� t}te Critieal Area; M(3�IOId by ;Ms . SptS Chat iC b� coati.n, ca� �ri�-relakec� q '�E i�toTlf� g�F,n Ei M�TI.�N BY �. PET �ItQi�GH Y��IFNG � 2�.: �.4`p(iYS'� St&tetT � �'oposa� �s sig; ° ,�Sr��ess o€ eh�.�a TT�ON A �IU��E VQTE. �A�i EIl IiN�PIIMO(t5? 5 . - OTY=ER IIiTSiNL'�s A . Ancik�. Ccz�s Ms: 3.purt� � of: Che Ati • $s4; 4�i5='p t} X3:'��Sarts -+ s4g�ifica us�' �d� t'�� Ms;. SQor� time to"#� Is,aC, acca� tdi�el F.��i m�ster pl: is C�e [fi � �. � . , * �; �ETING, QC'!'4B�8 16, 19i9. � P14GE b VIC�-�IikI�PF,1t�ON �i4RA IIB�LAitED ,�FIE NIOTION � r.atxxt'F.n ttuANLj�QtiSi.�' ' . . � - EL t� S�vk�.'atunental C � ba��d s�x�"; Ghe euvirc b ��ave'�he CxiCica u�i �l�n a��iroval of Eon�r. r.#�� Zag. �cx � �c S�ot�n. e We � .. � sed ca�t#i''the ehqug�tY in m3nd �si�n ��ouid have'had-the [he� they thought that was a 'iQ �"THE Ciii" �AE�', ' =�'iTER`nF PRO�EDUiiS, #? '£kiE Ft�i�IiS & REC�Ee��ON AWh�E, �tt+P�R THAN TNE EUELiG �DY ��T I�D� . i . �i?�$;`�flRt� DE�LA�ED fi`Fi� MOTION y ��arrfssi�n �T�ou'�d approve ;al aspeets• sst'tfie P1an. h�gas �tan wiCh tfie.stipulati.on ::{. �.�arits & �tecreati4u.e�Gt��ssion; � � � � ; , -; :: � �� tt�COmfortaale ��'2,.Ch t�t� withocit gb�n¢„� tk ti� Commission and � ��. .ECO2�II�l,EiAD T4} LT�Y Gt?UN�ZL, ?ICI�F. �1ZEAS P�, 4A1. , € : Cammzssipn apgrouing �g�2 :Ctm tradi�ietlai review p��il�c noti� "o£ it. €OPfA II�CLek[�lk 1`� MOTION �.--�,�--f . � t �#ie tnast�r p�.ar. proe�ss £or-expaita,�.�n i.x�ort cost $8'L,SkI pt�iil�d 1rY tl�e .P.�,A., n�> and'�S4,fl94�.�rau�ded'by M,A'.C.,.�ietrp�a2itan Sh� thought Lhe Gosi,u,� Lhe master �lan was [cslaeran.le amourpc hey have bet�k Lfl1 P e it �11 Eve ar�'- oF :ax maney was being �� this is_rt�L the v11 the expansian, t20%79, a report by [e fii`st ;�Niase uf the Z!n bther wnr�s, this +3 ' �"a . ^�3°.r-�� . . .,... 5 �` k �v ^u, ? �, ' `�'': r � � ' a'k , _ � � , �� . .. �, . � , . : - ,. T��° [i33eft.:T'i'S" f:!1MM1ffR.s^�tAf1 `MERT%Al[,�: ' �� .;� 1.9T9 . > P� '� ..."^e� � ftt her di� . gi.te are tt� ��ai iaipaez- �ra�s-. al temst t �'umway, re� t��guration,:c :aaClvea of tt ,' tke City Gounc�t=�=at�enezon, iu an � . S�=ai:;. 3�'S(fi8, sYie`�.�s�u�sd ttiat the map ii± '-ex�st3;rtg I►noka G�I.ty' A�.rporC and el��eti �3��-opment o£ t`he airgort would hs; dr>r -��g��g zrf the ai:r�art ezpansiau is �ot "�0��3'inethod ttiat had been prog�sedS 4 �FIE� ha:'iSs. S�a�re, secondeh hy M�'-t. � ,`._t�''X�s�xd the �rti,als #rom the;klixiiie�F th� a�czG1� €ronr-the .N�w Bri�htou H�� i�� Pdr�'e stateti she ttad a copq` af�:thf Cki�_,�v�.a��o� Ch&pte� o€ Che Develo�taent 4;$��, .A�socf�i�." In: that progc�`sa;I.:} u� �=C� a�rplanes tiaat would be reloi ., `�1#s7e�' �cm none at �noka Ecunty at t�#� ,=�e�+n used';�n the::techaicel rePort.:f�-"s fI� .s¢e6iecl� to izez�-more apgrapria�� t?3;si . 1-,��fic i.i��ead o€, intei-�ediatE,.; h�t� = �ti �xste to .ius�ction. : :�TC$'.�' : 'AL�. I�OTIN�' AYE VZ� „ .�,' ��.�GA1�t�.`�5 UNAI�NOUSLY. 8.``�v�n�siet�c'>. kTi�uei�ZQx 2-3;, 1979: ng Eiii ttL'd� ' � BY�T u1d like; r� on NQVe d�the Art jv Ms.,Sporre,-t "� � � �� ti kir.. Finney; th� "" " F' � �. z�ill be discussed . �: �e stated that,: „' K-�e �te ttorth/sovth " - going to a sauthwest� �y� airpart . The EIS �no� "as appoeed tb =anji �t�,ring inPormation Lo, :ie from the Minneapoli,s �ss-,ar�icle showed the ` rtd�t3�at the proposed €n stages. So, the uew method. It was �he :,�r.�cxt, CQ receive intd � ° �;&taY daGed�3{5f�8 and �.� s �ated 9/20/79. �3 Ceg4�c�i:ca1 Appendix to 3i3e, i�iarch 19T8, Davfd C Calked about the nittnber �.aith.this decision: � ��he stat�d El�at�the �aifint€rnat3ossal" traffic. �s�3pua1 and inYernat��nal �. B�zte�mediate d-id n�st ��ee� � � 3AS�tPERSOI� HORA DECLARED � `,a spseposivaa;' '"t*Sttimen�:��an ,= AFo�sored by the 'tl<. of M." The cqst is_ $18. - � pszrr�a,;,Co a.pProue the ;' ',°t�7omeix Gan �f€ect the "" '*��iae-:vate,-a11 voting <� �€,toci°carried unanimouslq. "' a. arlj,a.urn the. meeting :" iJpon ��?clec2.ared the Qctober 16, 1979, ;'� tl� t�t 1f3:�Q p.m. ��:;. k�� "� y . °. � i� � .. ...?�. .... ir� 3t u , t � J'. x 6 � � µ ��. r t. 1 � a .�� ' 'vi k ! 5 r i �� 1 R r f ' �&. R �9 Y� " � ;.l' 3- �`:� �e :,� .. " Sr:: � �� ,y . A-, e w �` 6 y` a � F- A i � yk .: F � r 4 �4 ,�� ;� .��.� .. � ..j . �$ � "� 2 . � .�,, , . . � ,�' . z, t- �' A a: : f s ��E ¢ �: � �T � w. �� „ . f. F` , . � <` , " _ , . _ , C �. 1. — _ 1 F � 9� �� ,� � .. f •a �r , k ' 4 � '� i �.. HUMAN RESOURCES COI�RSISSION ` MEETING OCTOBER 18, 1979 CALL TO ORDER• Chairpsrson Peter Treuenfels called the Octobex 18, 1979, Auman Resources Ca�ission meeting to order at I:32 p.m. ROLL-CALL• Members Present: Peter Treuenfels, Mary van Dan, Wayne Saunders plemhers Absent: Marlyis Carpentzr Others Present: Peter Fleming, Administrative [lssistant Lee Caxlson, Central Center for Family Resources Barbara Hughes, }'arks & Recreation Coum�issfou Chairperson .n„r�t,t,, ' n� eTTr_rrcm � � 479_ HiRdAN RESOL�t:CES COT.^.`1ISSION MIRTDTES: y Ms. van Pan, seconded bp �Ir. Sauiiders, co approve the AugusC 2, 1979, sburces Conxnission miautes. Upon a voice ��ote, a11 voCing aye, son-Treuenfels declared the mol•ion�carried uaanimously. .....,,. - --- - Ms. Hughes staCed that she was very interasted in the allocaYion of monies to organizations and Chat was one of Che reasons she was at Che meeting. At the meeting, the Con�nission G�ouJ.d be votir.g on monies to be allocated to several org3ni•r,ations, one o£ whicn is the Central Center for Family Resources ' which is now'fimctioning in Spring I�ake Park. SHe £elt human resources was probably one of-the most imporCan[ sesources in this conw�unity. She liked the''idea of the'preventative aspects of t'he Central Center for Fam31y Resources' prpgram. She stated she was both!irriCated and disappointed that something had not been done on that project thus iar. The Rlanning Commission had reco�ended 'Che fuading to City Council, and L'he City Council had passed it back with no guidelines or guidai.ce-and no indicatian of what kinds of monies are available £or helpi��g cottununity groups. She stated that the Planning Commission had askeri several ti.mes for firm figures on the monies auailahle, iShe state�l that thi.s was puttfng a terrible burden on the Human Reso.atces Cormnission. AUMAN AGSdURCES COMMISSION P�ETING OCTOBER 18 1979 - PAGE 2 Ms, Hughes stated that there was no obligation on the Commission's part to put these funding requests in numerical order. She thought that was a difficult proposition. Ms. Hughes stated that of the organizations that had been funded in the past, the Central CenGer for Family Resources seemed Iike a good one and one that the people of Fridley were in need of and a service that was nice to have close. She stated she knew some of the people involved in the program, so it was well run, and they were doing everything they could to get funding. It is very di.fficu2t to ge1 £unding for new projects, and they were doing remarkably well in obtaining funding, including some funding from local busiuesses and neigh- boring communities. Wltile the functions the Center is performing may belong somewhere else, these functions are not being provided anywhere else at this point and need to be, Ms. Hughes stated she wouLd encourage the Human Resources Commission to do what,they can in texins of funding worthy groups. Mr. Treuenfe2s stated the Commiesion had four requests to consider: 1. Central Center for Eamily Resources -$S,OCO 2, Anoka County Seniar Citizen Outreach Program -$1,000 3. Southern Anoka Community Assistance -$500 4, KKKY. (Koping with Kids from Kradle to Kindergarten) - no Formal funding request Ms. van Dan stated that in Mr, Qureshi's ].etter, Mr. Qureshi iaas suggestiu� that the Coz�mfssion prioritize the funding requests by percentage. She stated that if the Co�nission did not know the funds available - Yhe i-unding base - how could they determine the percentages? Ms. van Dan stated that at a previous meeting, she had expressed a strong i-eeling in favor of giving the total amount requested ($5,000) to the CentraZ Center for Family Resources. She also believed that they had to do �verything possible to save their human resources,and preventative medicine was her chief interest. She could not thi.nk of any better way than starting with the young. She was in favor of every program offered by this organization and could ncc see where these Programs were handled by any other groups within the County. Mr. Treirenfels asked Ms. Carlson what percentage of the Center's clients were coming from Fridley? Ms. Carlson stated she could give some exact figures, keeping in mind that the Center officialty opened its doors to counseling services on August 20th and began running parenting programs on OctoUer 2. They have 28 people presently participating iri the parenting sessions, which is the maKimum amount of people they can handle in rwo classes. The evening class has 5 pEC+ple from Fridley, She uras not sure about the morning class. HUMAN RESOURCES GOMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 18 1979 - PAGE 3 Ma;'Carlson statad that they publicized the Center's programs through the recreation bulletins in Blaine and Spring Lake Park, Uut were not able Co use the Fridley community newsletter. Since they did not get the same distribution in Fridley, she did not know if they could count the 5 people as a totally,accurate representation or future predictor. In terms of Che counseling serdices, they are presently working with 20 families. She thought 4 of those families were Fridley families. She stated that in the shorC time they have been in operation, the demand has been evident. The in-service was done in Fridley and in the Anoka County system, as well as in Blaine and Spring Lalce Park areas, and referrals were coming in from a11 different souxces. Mr. Saunders asked Ms. Carlson where their referrals come from? Ms. Carlson stated they were getting referrals from the County, elementary schools through princinals, and also have referrals through the police depart- ments, Ma, Carlaon stated she wanted to stress that the communities wer= represenCed on'their boards, and tliese represeneatives were listened to so each community had input and contrals in terms of the Cente.r's direction. The Commission members thanY.ed Ms. Carlson £or coming to the meeting and for answering their questions. Mr. Treuen£els stated that the Commission should look at the needs of each o£ the organizations and how they are being met from various sources of funding. How much of it'is up to the City of Fridley to supply that funding as cos�pared to othes'sources of funding? The Com�ission should try to get some idea as to how mang people are being reached and helped by the various programs. Ms. Carlson was'able to give some indication as to how many Fridley people are being helped. Mr, Saunders stated that when you consider the family size and the people involved in this kind of thing, $S,OOa was a fairly small figure. He would assume that as the Center grew, probably the dollars per family would lessen rathex than expxnd. He felt best qualified to vote on the request from Che Central Center for Family 2esources becauce of their earlier presenCation and that'it was highly recommended at that time. He staCed he was in favor of funding it and giving the Centex a chance, especially for one year, and after one year the Commission could take another look at what was accomplished, A. Request.for $5,000 for Central Center for Family Resources MOTION CITY CQ FUND A UPON A NAYr CH BY NSR. SAUNDERS MS. VAN DAN. TO FOR HUPL4N RESOURC�S COMMTSSION MEETSNG, OCTOB�R 18, 1479 - PAG$ 4 B C Request for $1,Oq0 by Anoka Couney Senior Cieizen Outreach Program A motion was made on page 3 of the August 2, 1979, Human Resources Comnission minutes recommendirg to City Council that the City of Fridley fund a$1;000 contribution to the AnoY.a County Senior Citizen Outreach Program. Request for $500 by Swthern Anoka Co�nunit Assistance MUTION BY MS. VAN DAN,�S�COPTDED BY MR. SAUNDERS,_ TO REC( Y. Ffiix�l��l��7 D. KKKK (Koping with Kids from Kradle Co Kinder arten TO Mr. Treuenfels stated he had received thi� information tnat ever.ing for the Commission's cor.sideration, but. no dollzr figur.e Bad been requested. M07'ION by Ms. van Dau, seconded by Mr. Saunders, to table this iteni. Upon a voice vote, all vot.ing �jr, Cha�rperscm Treuenfels declared the m�tion carri.ed unanimously. A1r. Treuanfels stated that Pir. Qur�.shi had raques*_ed in his memo of August 9, 1979, that the 1?uman Rvsources Cc��nissi�n pr3.oriti�e these funding requests by percenrage, Tt was the concensus of the Com.mission m�mbers that, assuming the hase dollar ae�ouat is $20,OOU, the following percentages will applq. If a larger funding base is ayailable, then these dollar amounts are to be fitinded and the rest is to go into a contingency fund, Central CenCer for Family Resources Anoka CounCy Ci.tizen Outreach Program Souihern Anoka Community Assistance Contingency fund ADJOLIIiNMEN'r ; SU/ $5,�00 10% 1,000 5% 500 35% 3,500 $10,000 Pi0TI0N by Mr. Saunders, seconded by Ms. van Dan, to adjourn the meeting. Upona voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson ^lreuenfels declared:Che Oct-ober 18, 1979, Human Resources Coimnission meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m, Respect£ul.ly submitted, �� r rr-,. �, �.l,. ii�� `�;} ��e Sab� F:ecozdim; 3ecreCary .. -�-.- CITY OF FRIDLEY 5 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 7 1979 CALL TO ORDffit: Vice-chairpexson Schnabel called the meeting of the November 7, 1979, Planning Commission meeting to order at 7:37 P.M. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes, Mr. Treuenfels, Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Hora, Mr. Harxis (arrived at 7:38 P.M.) Members Absent: none Others Present: Serry Boardman, City Planner, Bill Deblon, Asaoc. City Rianner APPROVS PLANNING COP�AffSSION MINUTES: OCTOSBR 24. 1979: MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Mr. Oquist to approve the Planning Comanission minutes of October 24, 1979, as corrected. Ms. Hughes asked to have the word staff added in the fifth paragragh, page 14, . . . certain staff inembers . . . Mr. Harris noted the time the meeting stated and his arrival time should be 7:32 P.M, and 7:35 P.M, respectively. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL D&CLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 1. PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLATi P.S. ��79-02, INNSBRUCK VILLAGES THIRD ADDITION BY DARREL A FARR DEVEIAPMENT CORPORATION• Being a replat of Lots 1-4, Block 8, Innsbruck Villages Inclusive; and 4 parts of Lot 1, Block 12, ;the same being 5620, 562Z, 5624 and 5626 West Bavarian Pass N.E. MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to open the public hearing. LiPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VQTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THL MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY� PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AT r7:40 P.M. Hr. Boardman explained the building located on the plat had been built sitting on:the-- t.lots crooked, due to an engineering mistake. The rgplat was necessary to allow the ownership recoxds to coincide with the building. The staff had no problems with the replat. Mr. Richard Cherrier (4206 Woodbine Lane, Mpls., Mn 55429), stated he represented the architect firm that built the building. The firm assumed the total responsibility of the placement error. The encroachment, at the moat, was approximately 12 feet. Mx. Schnabel questioned the point on the northeast corner of the building. She thought PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVF,[�ER 7 1979 PAGE 2 this point was also w er the lot line. She asked if the cement slabs for the garage building were too close to the curb. Mr. Cherrier sa3d the lot line had a jog in it to accommodate the corner she questioned. He also stated the cement slabs met city code requirements as far as placement was concerned. MOTION by Mr. Oquest, seconded by Ms. Schnabel to close the gublic hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DELGARED THE MOTION CAR1tIED UNANIMOUSLY. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 7:46 P.M. Ms, Schnabel asked if thexe was any thing in the new or old zoning ordinances that would protect the city in instances like this. She was referxing to the possibility oE a fine levied against a developer if he places the building on the lot wrong. Mr, Boardman said he was not awaxe of any such ordinance. Besides, he said a mistake like this was a common building mistake, and it would not be fair to fine someone for a honeat mistake. Mr. Harris said that question could be discussed later. MOTION hy Mr. Oquist, seeonded by Mr. Hora, to recomnend to City Council approval of L,S. �79-02, Innsbruck Villages Third Addition. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE 1�%lTION CAR&IED UNANIMOUSLY. 2. PUBLIC_HEARING: PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S. �79-03. BLOMBERG ESTATES. BY KAliLA BLOMSERG: Being a replat of Lots 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and the West half of Lot 10; Lots 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20, all in Block 2, Spring Lake Park Lakeside Addition, and Lots 3� 4 and 5, Block 1, Andco Terrace, generally bound by Osborne Road on the North, 75th Avenue on the South, Arthur Street on the West, and Lakeside Road on the East. MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuentels to open the public hearing. UPON A VOICE;VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHArRMAx F7�giS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOiTSLY. Mx. Boardman explai.ned that this land was formally owned by the Spring Lake Park School District. In the Compxehensive Plan it was designated excess pxoperty and put up for sale. The proposed plat has 42 lots. Road right-of-way was picked up by the City on the Andco Texrace Addition, which would help create the access on to Lakeside Road. Ri�ht- of-way was also picked up Lots 23 and 22 when split. There was additional right-of-way picked up between 1559 and 1571 ?5t1r.Avenue. The rest of the needed right-of-way will be dedicated by the developer. The Lakeside Road access runs between two lots that are already built on. The city does have road right-of-way between these two lots, but placing the road here would be putting it 5 feet fxom the garage located at 7520 Lakeside Road.. The homeowner, 7550 Lakeside, was considering negotiations with the developer to allow a jog in the road. This jog would take some of that homeownex's sideyard, but he would be able to purchase or through developer's dedication acquire the land to the rear of his and create a larger backyard. PLANNING GOMMISSZON MESTING NOVffi�ER 7 1979 PAGE 3 Mr. Boardman said if the Planning Co�ission approves the request the staff would like to see the following stipulatians: 1. Any necessary fees required be obtained before the final plat approval. 2. Necessary road right-of-way for accessbe obtained by the developer. 3. Approval by the Rice Creek Watershed of the plat befo�e final approval by the CiCy Council. 4. A sewer and water layout be approved by the City staff before final plat appraval. 5. Necessary drainage and utility easeanents be obtained. Mr. Harris quesCioned what fees would be necessary. Mr. Boardman said there was a paxk fee, plus an environmental development fee. The latterhas been required on 2 previous lot splits. This fee was to be used for neighbor- hood improvemenCS, such as landscaping or possible stoxm sewer improvements. This was presently being developed by the City Manager's office and Mr. Boardman stated he has had some discussions with Mr. Qureshi on what the full policy was. This was a new poiicy to him and he did not fully understand it yet. Mr. Harris demanded to know who staxted this fee. He said the Planning Co�nission had not heard of this fee before and did not think Council had �iven appraval of it. He wanted to know if this was something sCaff started. He questioned what previous lot splits had been required to pay it, how much the fee was and where the money went when collected. Mr. Harris said if this was money £or stasm sewer impswement we should call it that. Mr. Boardman siad it was not a storm sewer escrow, but a land development fee. Mr. HaYris said he was vezy upset about this and would get some answers. Ms. Hughes stated there was a difference between fees Chat are necessary and those that are desired. Park fees are necessary and the stipulation on fees should state what fees are required. Mr. Oquist added another way to state that would be fees that are authoxized (paxk fees) and fees that are unauthorized. This fee was unauthorized. Mr. Boardman explained one use would be the correction of downstream storm sewer problems. Some sort of action in the future to alleviate those problems will have to be taken and possibly this was what the City Manger's office had in mind. Mr. Aasria said we should get the Council and city attorney's opinion on this fee. He wanted to know how Che city can charge for something before the policy has been written and authorized, Mr. Boardman went on to say the staff could see no development problems with the plat. The only possible one would be access on to Lakeaide Road. City ordinance requires the developer to obtain access in and out of a new plat. Ms. Schnabel asked for the aerial of this neighborhood and where the homes and garages were located by the planned Lakeside Road access. PLADINING COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBSR 7 1979 PAGE 4 Ma. Kazla Blomberg, 1661 Camelot Lane came forward, She said she was unaware of this $800.00 per lot environmental development fee until recently. She did not know how the city could arbitrarily decide on such a fee. Ms. "Blomberg said she talked to the City Manager on it and did not get any answeres that could show the need for such a fee. She said her ]awyer_-was checking in to it. She asked Mr. Harris to please check into _ __ it also. Ms. Hughes asked if she would go aLong with the new road plan for the Lakeside Road accesa. Ms. Blomberg said she had not had time to negotiate, but thought the new plan would be okay. She felt the road should be mwed because of safety (too close to a garage) and looks. She also said the Rice Creek Watershed DistricC was meeting on the 28th of this month Co discuss the plat. She was told toqait on any aewer and water plan until aftex that meeting so any conditions or recoommendations cauld be implemented in the plan. Mr, Harris said a final sewer and water plan would be required before the plat was given final approval. Ms. Schnabel asked it she owns this land and would be developing it, Ms. Blomberg replied a contractor, her husband and herself own the land and would be constructing cuffi�m built homes. Ms. Hughes noted the lot widths varied from 75 to 90 feet and wondered why they had done this. Ms. Blombezg said the different lot widths allow homeowners to choose a lot and house plan without having to worry about getting variances. Some house plans require a wider lot then others. It also gives less confoYmity to the neighborhood. Mr, Boardman said one change recou�ended by sYaff would be to switch the lot widths of Lots 11 and 14, Block 3, with those of Lots 12 and 13, Block 3. This would make the comer lots 85 feet wide instead of 80 feet and with the sideyard requirements, develo- ping the lots would he easiex. Mr. Harris asked for audience discussion. Mr, Leo Heyne, 7550 Lakeside Road, said he was the owner of the lot which the Lakeside Road access would be by. Mx. Heyne said he was unaware until after he bought his home that his house was placed so he had no rear yard, only aideyard. He stated he would 6e w illing to work out an agreement where the proposed road could jog over onto his sideyard. He would then buy the Land to the rear of his propezty and cYeate a larger backyard fox himself. Mr. Heyne said if he purchased approximately 45 feet and with some juggling of the developer's lot lines, the plat would have the same number of lots. Mrs. Winifred Maki, 7520 Lakeside Road, said she liX;g$ on the opposite side of the pro- posed road. Her gaxage would be located S feet from the road, She expressed concern on t he water table. There was a creek bed in this area and she questioned if the new con- struction could cause the water tabel to rise. She also said she was against the streeC going in next to her gaYage 6ecause she would loose her sideyard. Mx. Oquist queationed what creek Mrs, Maki was referring to. PLANNING GOrAfISSION MEETING NOVEI�ER 7 1979 PAG&--5 Mr. Boardman said this was an underground creek bed and Comstock and Davis had been asked to determine the level of the water table and flow for this area. Mr. Greg Kline, 7612 Arthur SYreet, said he was concerned by the possibility of head- lights shining into homes where the proposed streets came out. He also wanted to know if the entire plat would be graded and leveled at one time and then allowed to sit until constnsction starts. Ms. Blomberg replied it was too expensive to level the entire area without any construc- tion co�niCments. They also intend to leave the land as natural and rolling as it was presently. Mr. Lloyd Dawson, 1525-75th Avenue NE, asiced what type of construction would be put in the area. Mr. Harris replied it would be all R-1, single family dwellings. Mr. Jim Carlson, 7531 Lakeside Road, wanted to know why the street could not be brought out to the county Toad (Osborne Road) instead of having an additional 40 people trying to get out by using Lakeside Road. He said the corner of Lakeside and Osborne was a vis- ually hazardous intersection already, If the road came out onto Osborne, perhaps the aounty would improve the road. This would also keep more traffic off of a residential street where there are kids playing. Mr. Harris said the city has no control over what the county does and they were touchy about giving any road accesses on theix roads. Ms. Blomberg said if the road went through Lots l-4, Block, they would loose 2 lots, plus Lot 21 would have roads on 3 sides. Mrs. John Hennes, 7600 Arthur Street, asked if the developers would be rezoning the area at all or leaving it R-1. Mr. Blomberg said they would be leaving it R-1. Mr, Carlson asked if they would grade and fiil in the law spots and then start building, He was worried about excess dust blowing around. Mr. Blomberg said they would grade for the streets firts and then do 1 to 5 lots at a time. Mrs. Blomberg sdded that she could see the possibility of filling in low spots w ith fill from the area and that could cause eome dust pxoblems. Mrs, KaYen Lennox, 7547 Lakeside Road, wanted to know if there had to be an acces on to Lakeside Road from 75'� Avenue or if there was any other type of access possible. Mr. Harris said it would be difficult to place the road elsewhere. Mrs, Lennox stated it wouldn't be difficult, but expensive to the developer. She was not sure of the alternative available, but felt Mr. Carlson's suggestion of having an access onto Osborne Road was good, She aiso said with the number of homes involved, __ possibly matching up a road with 76th ox bringing the new road back around to Arthur Street would be a solution, PLANNING CONIMTSSION MEETING NOVffi�ER 7 1979 PAGE 6 Members of the audience who live on Arthur Street obiected to the latter proposal be- cause all the trafiic burden would be on their street. Mr. Boardman said if they matched up with 76th Avenue they would need a cul-de-sac to run down to service the south lots. City codes limit the length that a cul-de-sac can be. Due to police and fire protection and sCreet maintenance, city policy was to keep away from cul-de-sacs. Ms, Hughes pointed out if a street was put in to match up with 76th, a cul-de-sac plus one more street would still be needed. She wanted to know if there was some other alCernative. Mr. Boardman said you would have to have at least 1 or 2 cul-de-sacs then. Cul-de-sacs take up more area and the sewer and water has to be looped to sexvice the homes, It was very expensive for the developer plus expensive for the city to maintain. Mr. Heyne said he would go along with a cul-de-sar`to service the lots in back of his property. He also pointed out the cul-de-sac that was recently built on Flanery. Mrs. Maki asked if the commission would recommend a cul-de-sac by their property if it meant them loosing ZS feet of their property to a road. Mr. Boardman said he could understand Mrs. Maki's feelings, but again stated because of development costs and maintenance costs the city wants to stay away from cul-de-sacs. Mr. Heyne said he was not convinced of the maintenance problem. He walks by the one on Flanery on his way to work each day and has nevex seen a snow removal problem. Ms, Schnabel said she lives on a cul-de-sac and they have had terrible snow remwal pro- blems in Che winters'. The plowing was a pain and they have had to have special plows come out and efther push the snow way up into their yards or into the middle of the cul- de-sac. She also said living on a cul-de-sac was noiser because you are closer to your neighbor's home. Mrs. Maline Fish, 7501 Lakeside Road, said she did not like cul-de-sacs either and pro- posed the road to come back onto Arthur Street. Mr. Oquist pointed out the traffic burden would then be on only those homeowners. Ms. Schnabel asked if the deveLoper had tried any other access designs. Ms. Blomberg replied they are not_trying to make it difficult for the present homeowners They had worked with the Planning Department on the plan and this was the most feasible as far as potential development and costs. The surveyox they had contacted felt this was the most feasible plan also. Mr. John Hennes, 7600 Arthur Street, asked about the possibility of flipging the plan. Mr. Harris said this would make the Lakeside Road accesa too c:.ose to Osborne Road and could cause a stacking problem on Lakeside Road. This would be a safety hazard. Mrs. Lennox suggested trading off the road access the city already has on Lots 21 and 22, put the road in to line up wiCh 76th Avenue and then re-ahuffle the lot widths on Lake- side Road. PLANNING COiIIitSSION MEETING, NOVII�ffiER 7, 1979 PAGE 7 Mr. Boardman said Lots 21 and 22 could not be serviced if they were to be split. It was asked how Lots 1 and 2 on the north end would he serviced. Mr. Haxris said if these lots are split, a driveway easement would be required across Lot 4 to service Lot 2. Ma. Blomberg agreed to that. A 25 feet driveway easement would be dedicated for this purpose. MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr, Treuenfels to close the public hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, AI.L VOTING AYS, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE I�TION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 9:02 P.M, Ms. Hughea said thexe wexe other alternative solutions for the roads, but none seemed as feasible as the one presented. She felt becauae of the stacking problem if the plan was flipped, the added cul-de-sacs and becauae right-of-way had already been dedicated, this plan was the best. However, this plan would depend on if an agreement could be made between the 2 homeowners and the � e po er -- --------- _ — �-- Ms. Schnabel said unless that agreement was made, it would be haxd to say what could happen. If they can't make that agreement the pian may have to be reviewed by the Elanning Co�ission again. The burden was on the developer to get the needed access. She felt a reco�nendation could be made to the City Council based on that agxeement or else the Council will have to come up with some other solution. Ms. Hughes said with all the stipulations requested by staff and the agreement that was needed for road access, what was the best way to handle this request. Mr. Harris said the con¢nission had the option to deny the request, or make a recommenda- tion fox apprwal to Council with the staff stipulations plus the accesa agreement. If t he aceess agreement was not worked out, it should come back to the cou¢nission. Ms. Hughes said she would like to see the reco�endation first by the Rice Creek Water- shed District. Ms. Blomberg said if the Rice Creek Watershed District required holding or retention ponds that would change the configuration of the plat. However when she did talk to t h�, Yhey thought the plan looked okay. If reconfiguration was needed, then she would have to come back to the Planning Co�ission. Possihly they could make a recom- mendation on that possibility. Mr. Boardman auggested they pass reco�endation to Council if there was no reconfiguration change. If there was a reconfiguration then it ahould come back to the commission for review. He could not see any point in holding up the plat if there was no change. He pointed out that Council could change the final plat if necessary, Mx. Harris stated that was true, but would like to see the plan go to Council as com- p lete as possible. MOTION by Ms. Hughes to continue the discussion on Preliminaxy Plat P,S, i�79-03, B1om6erg Eatates. � �---�-.,;; : ,,. PLANNING COMMIS570N MEEfING, NWffi+lBER 7, 1979 YAGE 8 Chairman Harris declared the motion failed becauae of a lack of a second. MOTION by Mr. Oquiat, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to reco�end to City Council approval of proposed Preliminary Plat, P.S, �79-03, Blomberg Estates with the following stipulations: 1. Work out costs of authorized fees (park fees), 2. Work out agreement on right-of-way acquisition to provide access. 3. Rice Creek Watershed approval. 4. Sewer and water layout approval hy staff. 5. Drainage and utility essements around each lot be dedicated. 6. Dedication of a 25 foot driveway easement to Lot 2, Block 2, thru Lot 4. 7, Switch the lots sizes of Lots 11 and 14, Block 3 with those of Lots 12 and 13, Block 3. 8. If the plat was reconfigured, for any reason, the plat will come back to the Planning Co�ission for further review. Mr. Bosrdman said staff would also like to see Cleveland Street changed to Anoka Street. Mr. Carlson asked if Mr. Heyne and Mrs. Maki cannot reach an agreement would the first alternative road configuratian be to line up with 76th Avenue. Mr. Harris said he m uld not say that for sure. What the Planning Coffinission was trying to do, was if there was any reconfiguration, the plan would come back to the co�inssion for review. UPON A VOICE VOTS� ALL VOTING AYE, CHATRMAN �IS DHCI�ARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Boardman said the Council will set a Public Hearing for this in January at their Dec�ber 3, 1979 meeting. Mr. Harris asked to have the homeowners renotified if the plan has to come back to the Planning Commission. 3. RHCEIVE_IiITMAN RESOURCSS COI�AfLSSION MINUTES: OCTOBER 18, 1979 MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to receive the Human Resource Co�iasion minutes of October 18, 1979. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED ANANIMOUSLY, Ms. Hughes said the discussion on fundi�8 was referred to the Council. T.he bouncil had received r�commendations from the P anning ommiss on before and had sent those recommendations ba�`k to the Human Resource Caa�ission. She wanted to know if Planning Co�ission had more to say on the funding resources. She wished to discuss them more. 5H PLANNING CAMMISSION MEETING NO�III�ER 7 1979 PAGE 9 Mr. Boaxdman said he noticed they had allowed maney for a contingency fund (35% of $10,000) and wanted to know if thexe was money available for thaY fund would they use it up on more requests or what would happen to it. Mr. Treuenfds said the other requests received totaled $6,500 and they have received one more request and will probably get more. The money for those additional requests wi11 pxesumably come out of the contingency fund. Ms. Hughes said the request to detexaiine the amounts came down by either the Council or the City Manager. They did not give an exact dollar amount to work with and the Human Resource Commission picked out the amount of $10,000. It was hard to give a certain percentage for each request because if the dollar amount was different, say only $5,000, the commission could have ranked each request different. The commission was not given enougli:information to work with. How can you give a request a percentage of an unkown amount. That was a critical question. She felt the dollar amounts alloted each request should be increase, for example to $20,000 each, plus increase the amount of the contingency fund to help fund the critieal area requesis like SACA. Mr. Boardman said he had some questions and problems on that. The idea that Council and the City Manager's office was getting at was you have an unknown amount of dollars, and five requests. How would prioritize each request and decide what percentage each priority gees. If there was only $5,000 available and prioriCy one tequests $8,000, do we give them a11 of the money available or do we give them only a percentage of the amount available. Mr. Oquist said the percentage business was fine for what we know today. But, was this something we go thru the first o£ each year. We may not know then who will be requesting finds and how much. Mr. Harris said he would like to see no dollar amounts, but decided on percentage figures. Does priority one get 50% of what ever amount was available. He felt there should be a cut off date on the applications so that the amounts can be budgeted into the ne.�ct year's budget. He felt this was what Council was looking for. Ms. Hughes said Council got Chat in these minutes. The Auman Resource Commission recom- mended 100% funding of the requeats. She said Planning Commission should concur- with that recommendation. Mr. Treuenfels said the request by KI�C was not in at the time of this meeting that decided on the other requests. Mx. Boaxdman said he .felt that reco�endation would be a good one to sent to Council, He also said the applications should he in by a certain cut off date so the Human Resource Co¢mmission can give the requests priority lisCing. Those priorities would be ranked however that co�ission wished, perhaps by service to the co�nuniCy. They then would have to give each priority a percentage. For example, priority one gets 50% of their funds or da they get 50! of their request. Mr. Treuenfels doubted the scheme of priority one getting all the funds if funds are low and no one else getting anything. Mr. Soardman stated that was why the Human Resource Commission had to decide how to divide up the available funds. 5I PLAN,��,ING COI�AfIS,SION MEETING, NWE[+�ER 7. 1979 PAGE` 10 Mr. Oquist said it will be known how much money there was available because these requests will be asked for before the new budget was adopted. Ms. Hughes questioned what happens to requests that come in after the budget has been adopted. There wi11 be money still available somehow, somewhere in the budget. Mr. Haxris said he has a problem with how these request come in now. How can the CiYy justify to the taxpayers having a$100,000 contingency fund that may not be used. Ms. Hughes said ahe could understand that point, but requests will come up later and h ow do we handle them. Mr. Haxris saic? we only have so much money that we can work with. If we went to the Federal govettnment after their cut off we would be told the same thing. Mr. Boardman Yeplied that was why a process should be set up. Right now Council was setting up a priorities list arbitrarily on a first come first serve basis,The money has never been budgeted for these requests. We need to have the Human Resource Co�is- sion make Yecommendations and set up a list. Mr. Harris said he was against slush funds. He felt it was better to have monies budgeted. Ms. Hughes replied the lobbying for funds should be done while the budget was being worked on and not through the Human Resource Commiasfon. Mz. Boaxdman said the Human Resource Co�nission would be needed to seC up priorities. If the Council has a priarity list, they can then detexmine the amount of money avail- able and needed. They could cut and add to the contingency fund as needed by this pYioxity list. MOTION by Ms. Hughes to concurr with the recot�endation to the City Council by the Human Resousce Co�ission on allocation of funds to the Central Center for Family Resources ($5,000), Anoka County Senior Citizen Outreach Program ($1,000) and SACA ($500). Chairman Harris declared the motion failed because of a lack of a second, Mr. Harris wanted to know if these requests come out of the 1980 budget. Ms. Hughes said no, �hey should come out of the 1979 budget. Mr. Boardman said it would more then likely have to come out of the 1980 budget, Ms. Hughes said these requests were received in June and July and they want the money now. Mr. Oquist pointed out that if they recommended approval of the money tonight, it will probably noC be paid until January 2, 1980, so therefore it will be 1980 budgeted money. Steve Kline, representing Anoka County Senior Citizen's Outreach Program, said his pro- g ram placed it`s request about 4 months ago and are on a very tight budget. Anyway to speed up the pxocess to get the maney would be appreciated. 5J PLANNING CAMMISSION MEETING. NOVSrffi&R 7, 1979 PAGE- 11 Mr. Harris said they axe not suxe where the money was budgeted, but would not with hold it if they had it. Ms. Schnabel asked if in 7 or 8 month these requests would need more money, where does t he money come from tthen. Mr, Kline said as of July, 1980, this program will be locally funded with a 507 matching Federal grant. This contribution from Fridley would be a one time contribution. They have already received funds from neighboYing cities. Ms. Schnagel asked how the other cities appropriated funds. Mr. Boardman �$�d the same way we are'doing it. Mr. Oquiet said requests made in 1980 will have to be handled the same way they are now being handled. Requests in 1981 will be budgeted for. However,.these programs that request funda will have to be notified so they know of the new funding policy. We will have to play it by ear until budgeting starts in 1980 for the 1981 budgeC. If we don't have the money to give out until the budgeted maney takes over, then we won't. Mr. Boardman agreed, He said what Planning Co�ission will be saying was that the pre- aent requests will be paid for out of the 1980 slush fund. As of July, 1980, we will start the new policy where programs make application for budgeted money. The Human Resource Co�fssion will then prioritize the requesffi and Council will then budget for them. Mr. Oquist said that was what he was saying. We cannot p=ioxitize these requesta or set a percentage on them because there was no 1980 budget for them. The Planning Co�ission reco�ends paying the stated amount £or .each request, and that was all they could do now. Ms, Aughes said the City could pay these requeats before January 2, 1980 if they really wantcd to. Mr. Harris wanted to know if SACA's xequest would be enough. He could not imagine them making their budget on only $500 until 1981. He felt they should be contacted to see if that would be enough. Ms. Iiughes said she would go and call Yat Brennen and ask her to come to the meeting. Chaix�man Harcis declared a xecess at 10:o8 P.M. and reconveyned at 10:25 P.M. Pat Brennen, President of the Board and Co-ordinator of SACA, said she had turned her request in last sunmer, plus she sent a letter to Mr. Qureshi and did not get a reply. Later ahe and Mr. Watson, also of SACA, went and saw Mr. Qureshi and were told at that time $500 was little enough for what SACA does for the co�unity. They are sti11 wait- ing for their money. Mr. Harris e�plained they were setting up a new program which could eliminate any more funding until January 2, 1981. This $500 approved now may have to last SACA fox an 18 month period and wanted to know if that amount was enough> Mrs. Brennen said she believed SACA should get money from Fridley each year. Columbia Heights has donated a house plus utilities for them to use. All they pay was $40 a 5K PLANNING COMI�IISSION MEETING NOVffi�BER 7 1979 PAGE 12 month for telephone service. S�A serves more Fridiey residents then Columbia Heights and ehould help in funding. She stated they would need the $500 for 1979 and an addi- tional $500 for 1980. That amount would cover the telephone service. Mr. Oquist asked if they would be notifying Central Center. Mr, Harris said no. The commission felt $5,000 was a good si2e contribution. Ms. Hughes said the program has started. They have had 5 state grant reviews and were turned down on the last one. They have been told the grant program that they wrote was too _ good and they are Coo new. They have only been in operation since August, 1979. She said they are in worse needs of funds now then if they had gotten state funds. They have been serving families in the area already. Some funding has come through Blaine,- Spring Lake Park and Medtronic. Their biggest problem waa getting £unds for administra- tive costs and individual counseling. They plan to add one more counaelor for individual counseling, but the counaeling feea will pay for that. It was an expensive, but needed, serv�.ce. The $5,000 would be used to help set up the first year of operation. Mr. Harris questioned the status of I�QZIC. Mr. Treuenfels said they have asked for $3,000. But the Human Resource Co�ission did not feel they had looked elszwhere for funding help and also were not sure how many people this program reached. Members of KHICR had offered to pay more than the $10 per year fee, but had been turned down by the Board of KKKK. He said the Human Reaource Co�ission reco�ended to the Planning Co�ission at their last meeting matching funds up to $1�500. MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Hughes to concur with the recommendations by the Human Resourc� Co�nission.to recommend to the City Council to pay the following fund Yequests: 1. Central Center for Fam31y Resouices 2. Anoka Cty. Sr. Citizens Outreach Program 3. SACA, change from $500 to 4. ICf�C, matching f.unds up to 5. Contingency Fund, reduced to $5,000 50% $1,000 10% $1,000 10'/ $1,500 15% $1,500: 15% Ms. Hughes asked if percentages where included in Mr. Treuenfels motion, Mr. Treuenfels said yes and also the contingency fund. Ms. Hughes withdrew her second. Chaixman Harris declared the motion failed because of a lack of a second, I�TZON by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms, Hughes to cancur with the recomnendations by the Human Resource Coffinis9ion to reco�end to the City Council to pay the following fund requests: Percentages axe not'-included in the motion 1, Central Centex for Family Resources $5,000 2. Anoka Cty. Sr. Citizens Outreach Program $1,000 3. SACA, change from $500 to $1,000 4. KI�K, matching funds up to $1,500 5. Contingency Fund, reduced Co $1,500 5L PLANNING CO2�4ffSSI0N MEETING. NWE[�ER 7, 1979 PAGE 13 Mr. Oquist questioned the time limit on KKKK for raiaing funds to receive the matching funds of up to $1,500. He felt there should be a cnt off period. He said he did not know what the KKKK was and it did not seem right to him that SACA or the Sr. Citizen Outreach Program should only get $1,000 each. He also could not go along with the motion because of the contingency fund. Mr. Treuenfels explained what KKKK was, stating it was a place for parents and pre- achoolers to come aad do activities with their children, other children and parents. They use a room at the Coffinunity Education buildir�g. They did present a budget of $3100. Mr. Boardman sa'sd if the $3,000 had been apprwed we would have been funding their entire program. Mr. Oquiat could not see where that much funding would be required. He pointed especially since they turned down additioual funding by the people who use the program. Mrs. Brennen said she was on the Educatian Advisory Board and the funding was based on a strong community need for a preschool program. This was an ungoing program and she hated to see it stopped. Mr. Oquist said it should get some support from the school district. Ms. Schnabel eaid the program almost sounded like a day care center. Mrs. Brennen said the parents are involved with the program each time their child was there. The thought was the parent was the most important teacher a child has. Mr. Oquist felt the people using this program should be able to fund it more then they were. Ms. Schnabel felt it seemed to touch the different areas of social work, parks and rec- reation and education and was not sure if it was something the City should fund. Mr. Boardman stated this was were the pxio=ities will help out. If an organization, t hat helps the citizens, has looked at all aspects of funding their program and none was available, then the city could help, It seemed the KIa� had not looked at all the areas yet open to them for funding. That was an important question for the city Co ask. MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Ms. Schnabel to aarcnend the original motion to read that KI�C must raiae by Ju1y 1, 1980, at least $1,000 to receive matching fund up to $1,000 fxom the City. UPON A VOICE VOTE� SCHNA$EL� i3ARRIS� H[IGHES VOTING AYE: TREUENFEI.S, OQUIST, HORA VOTING NAY, CI�IAIRMAN �ARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION FAILED BECAUSE OF A TIE VOTE. Mr. Oquist said KKKR should not be funded until funds are shown to be needed. MOTION by Mx. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Hoxs to ano�end the original motion by deleting the I�Z allocation from the motion. UPON A VOICE VOTS� OQUIST� HUGHES, BARRIS� SCHNAB&L� HORA VOTING AYE; TREUENFELS� VOTING NAY, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED, 5 4��1 PL�t ,I�_G CO�PSISSION MEETING. NOVEMBBR 7. 1979 PAGE 14 Ms. Schnabel said KI� should come to the Planning Co�iasion to answer funding questions that they have. I+�TION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to at�end the original motion by removing the contingency fund from the motion. UPON A VOICE VOTE, OQUIST� HUGHES, HARRIS SCHNABEL HORA VOTING AYE; TREUENFELS VOTING NAY� CllAIRt4AN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIBD, Chairman Harris called fox a vote on the original motion as ammended, UPOId A VOICE VOTE, AI,L VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRED UNANII�EDUSLY, MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to recommend to City Council that a new procedure be set up that states any group requesting city funds have theis request in by July lst, nf each year to allow budgeting for the next fiscal year. These requests will be turned over to the Human Resource Cormuission for prioritization. Each request shall include a request for a specific dollar amount, operating budget, an explanation of need�: how the money will be used and other sources of funding available to the appli- cant. This program will be in effect 3uly 1, 1980. kis. Hughes said some sort of review process should be set up so the Human Resource Co�is- aion known how the Council feels. Mx. Boax�an said the Planning Co�iasion can have staff set up a review process program. The ataff could have the program seC up around January 15, 1980 and the Planning Coumis- sion could review it at that time. Ms. Schnabel pointed out that this motion states applications must be in by July 1. How do the potential applicants know of Che deadline. Mr. Boardman said that will be included in the Yeview process pzogxam to be set up by staff. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. MpTION hy Ms, Schnabel, seconded by Mr. '1"reuenfels, to authorize the city staff to set up a review process program to be brought to Yhe Planning Cou�ission no later then January 15, 1980. The review process wi11 include the Planning Co�ission, Council and Human Resouxce Co�ission. UPQN A VOIGE VOTE, ALL VOTING AY&, Cfi?.LRMAK HARRIS DECI.�RED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 4, RECEIVB PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE FROM SPRING LAKE PARK MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to reeeive the public hearing notice from Sp=ing Lake Park. Mr. Boardman said he believed this building was a block structure to be used foY storage. UP�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED TfIE MOTION CARRIED UNANII�USLY. 5N PLANNING CONII�IISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 7 1979 PAGE 15 5. �C&IV� SNV7ROHI�fENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: OCTOBER 16.]979 MOTIOii by Mr. Hora, seconded by Ms. Schnabel to receive the Exivironmental Quality Coonnisaion minutes of October 16, 1979. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTTNG AYE, CHATRT�AN �gIS DECI.ARED TFIE MOTION CARRISD UNANIMOUSLY. 6. RECEIVE PARKS AND RSCREATION COM15iSSI0N MINUTES: OCTOBER 17. 1979 MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr, Oquiat to receive the Parks and Recreation Commission minutes of October 17, 1979. A questioned was noted on the date stated on page 2, 6th paragraph and also a correction noted on the tune in the lst paragraph, page 4; 10:30 P.M, to 10:30 A.M, Mr. Iiarris said he noticed the Woodcrest Baptist Church use of public parks for their physical education needs was being discussed again. He thought this problem had been handled earlier. Ms. Hughes said there had been some discussions and some agreements made earlier, but Woodcreat was not being very cooperative. Mr. Hariia asked to ioake sure the Parks Commission and Park Department got some type of agreement on thie problem. UPON A VOICS VOTE, ALL VOTiNG AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECI,ARSD THE MfJTION CARRIED UNANItDBSLY, 7. CONTINiTED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTffit 205. 20NING MBTION by Mr, Oquist, secanded by Mr. Treuenfels to cantinue the discussion on proposed changes to Chapter 205. Zoning, until the Special Meeting to be hed3, Thursday, November 15, 1979, at 7:30 P.M. UPON A VOICH VOTE' ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN FIARRIS DECLARED TE� MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 8. OTHER BUSINESS: Mr. Boardman noted the hand out "People Building Neighborhoods", that each member had received. He said anyone wishing to attend should get approval of their co�ission and notify him by Decembez lst. Ms, Schnabel asked to have this brochure given to the Appeals Co�3.ssion at their next meeYing. Mr. Boardman pointed out to the conmission that the City Council at their last meeting had set up an Energy Cammission. Discussion on environmental development fees; Mr. Harris said he would be going either as a member of the Planning Commission or as a private citizen to the next Council meeting to get some information and answers on the 50 PI�erRdING COMMISSION MEETING. NOVEMBER 7. 1979 PAGE 16 so called "environmental development fee". The bo�ission wanted to get answexs fox: 1, How can a fee be implemented without authorization? 2. Were does the fee money go after collecCed? (General fund, slush fund, etc.) 3. What was Yhe money uaed for? (future storm sewers, tree planting, etc.) 4. Were was the written policy on this fee? Mr. Harris said when the fees and purpose of the fees were discussed and decided upon, there was no mention of this type of fee. AATOURPIl�fENT : MOTION by Mx. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to adjourn the Planning Coffinisaion meeeing of No"vember 7, 1479. UPON-A VOIGE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE,'�Ci3AIRMAN HARRIS DSCLARBD TllE MEETING AD30URNED AT 11,45 P.M. Respectfully submitted, D aula Long, Reco ing Secretary