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PL 11/28/1979 - 6666PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING City of Fridley AGENDA WEDNESDAY, N�VEMBER 28, 1979 CALL TO ORDER: ROLL CALL• APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 7; 1979 1. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST F�R A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP #79-12, BY RICHARD N. CARLSON:.Per FridTey City Code, Section 2Q5.157, D, to allow the construction of a 26' x 25 1/2' addition to an existing house in CRP-2 zoning (flood plain), located on Lots 5, 6 and 7, Block ld, Riverview Heights, the same being 615 Cheryl Street N.E. 2. LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L.S. #79-08 BY G. W. PASCHKE: Split off the East 1 foot of Lot 10, Block 1, Paco Industrial Park (7150 Commerce Circle West) and add it to Lot 9, Block 1, Paco Industrial Park (200 Commerce Circle South) hecause of building encroachment. 3. RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 1, 1979 4. RECEIVE HOUSING AN� RFnFVEi naMFNr niiTUnRrrv MTNIITFC• M1Il1VFMRFR b'� DEVEL ►� 6. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: NOUEMBER 13, 1979 7. CONTINUEO: PR�POSED CHANGES TO CNAPTER 265. ZONING 8. OTNER BUSINESS: AQ�OURNMENT: r 7:30 P.M. PAGES 1 - 16 17 - 21 22 - 24 SALMON WHITE PINK YELLOW SEPARATE . '� CITY OF FRIDLLR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 7 1979 CALL TO ORDER: Vice-chairpezson Schnabel called the meeting of the November 7, 1979, Planning Commis.sa.on meeting to.order at 7:37 P.M. ROLL CALL: . Members Pxesent: Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes, Mr. Treuenfels, Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Hora, Mr. Harris (arrived at 7:38 P.M.) Members Absent: none . Others Pxesent: Jerry Boardman, CiCy Planner, Bill Deblon, Assoc. City Planner APPROVE PLANNING COMPiISSIOP3 MINUT�S: OCTOBER 24 1979: MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Mr. Oquist to approve the Planning Commission minutes of October 24, 1979, as corrected. Ms. Aughes asked to have the word stafi added in the £ifth paragxaph, page 14, . . . certain staff inembers . . . Mr. Harris noted the time th� meeting stated and his arxival time should be 7:32 P.M. and 7t35 P.M, respectively. UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CfIAIRPERSON SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANSMOUSLY, , 1. PUBI.IC ITEARING: PROPOS�D PRELIMINAItY PLAT, P.S, �,`79-02, INIVSBRUCK VILLAGES THIRD ADDITION BY DARREL A, FARR DEVELOPMENT CORPORATI�N: Being a replat o£ Lots 1-4, Block 8, Innsbruck Villages Inclusive; and 4 parts of Lot 1, Block 12, .the same being 5620, 5622, 5624 and 5626 West Bavarian Pass N,E. MOTION by Mr. OquisC, seconded Uy Mr. Treuenfels, to open the public hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CEiAIRPSAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, PUBLIC IiEARING OPENED AT d:40 P.M. Mr. Boardman explained the building located on the plat had been built sitCi"ng on.the lots crooked, due to an engineering mistake. The replat was necessary to allow the ownership records to coincide with the building. 'Che sta£f had no problems' with the replat. , Mx. Richard Cherriex (4206 Woodbine Lane, Mpls.� Mn 55429), stated he repxesented the architect firm that built Che building. The firm assumed the toCal responsibility of the placement erXOr. The encroachment, at the most, was approximately 1z feet. Mr. Schnabel questioned the point on the northeast corner of the building. Stie thought PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 7 1979 PAGE 2 this point was also w er the lot line. She asked ii the cement slabs for the garage building were too close to the curb. Mr. Cherrier said the lot line had a jog in it to accommodate the corner ahe questioned. He also stated the cement slabs met ctty code requirements as far as placement was concerned. I�TION by Mr. Oquest, seconded by Ms. Schnabel to close the public hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRMAN HARRTS DELCARED THE I�TION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 7:46 P.M. Ms, Schnabel asked if there was any thing in the new or old zoning ordinances that would protect the city in instances like this. She was referring to the possibility of a fine levied against a developer if he places the building on the lot wrong. Mr. Boardman said he was not aware of any such ordinance. Besides, he said a mistake like this was a co�on buiZding mistake, and it would not be fair to fine someone for a honest mistake. Mr, Harris said that question could be discussed later. MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Hora, to reconunend to City Council approval of L.S. 4�79-02, Innsbruck Vil2ages Third Addition. i�PON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN itAttRIS DECLAtiED THE MOTION CAR&IED UNANIMOUSLY. 2. PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED PRELIrffNARY PLAT P.S, ��79-03 BLOMBERG ESTATES BY KARLA BLAMBERG: Being a replat of Lots 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and the West half of Lot 10; Lots 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20, all in Block 2, Spring Lake Park Lakeside Addition, and Lots 3, 4 and 5, Block 1, Andco Terrace, generally bound by Osborne Road on ttie North, 75th Avenue on the South, Arthur Street on the West, and Lakeside Road on the East, MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to open the public hearing. UPON A VOICE,VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIM(lUSLY. Mr. Boardman explained that this land was forma2ly owned by the Spring Lake Park School District. In the Con:prehensive Plan it was designated excess property and put up for sale. The proposed plat has 42 Iots, Road right-of-way was p;.cked up by the City on the Andco Terrace Addition, which would help create the access on to Lakeside Road, Right- of-way was also picked up Lots 23 and 22 when split. There was additional right-of-way picked up between 1559 and 1571 ?S�h Avenue. The rest of the needed right-of�way will be dedicated by the developer. The Lakeside Road access runs between two Iots that are already built on. The city does have road right-of-way between these two lots, but placing the road here would be putting it 5 feet from the garage located at 7520 Lakeside Road,. The homeowner, 7550 Lakeside, was considering negotiations with the developer to allow a jog in the road. This jog would take some of that homeowner's sideyard, but he would be able to purchase or through developer's dedication acquire the land to the rear of his and create a larger backyard. E ,.� PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVHMBER 7 1979 PAGE 3 Mr. Boardman said if the Planning Commission approves the request the staff would like to see the following stipulations: 1. Any necessary fees required be ohtained 6efore the final plat approval, 2. Necessary road right-of-way for accessbe obtained by the developer. 3. Approval by the Rice Creek Watershed of the plat befo� final approval by the City Council. 4. A sewer and water layout be approved by the City staff before final plat approvaL 5. Necessary drainage and utility easements be obtained. Mx. Harris questioned what fees would be necessary. Mr. Boardman said there was a park fee, plus an environmental development fee. The latterhas been required on 2 previous lot splits. This fee was to be used for neighbor- hood improvements, such as landscaping or possible storm sewer improvements. This was presently being developed by the City Manager's office and Mr. Boardman stated he has had some discussions with Mx. Quxeshi on what the full policy was. This was"a new policy to him and he did not fully undeYStand it yet. , Mr. Harris demanded to know who started this fee. He said the Planning Commission had not heard of this fee before and did not think Council had aiven approvai of it. He wanted to know if this was something staff started. He questioned what previous lot splits had been required to pay it, how much the fee was and where the money went when collected. Mr. Harris said if this was money for storm sewer i.mprovement we should call it that. Mr. Boardman siad it was not a storm sewer escrow, but a land development fee. Mr. Harris said he was very upset about this and would get some answers. Ms. Hughes stated there was a difference 6etween fees that are necessary and those that are desired. Park fees are necessary and the stipulation on fees should state what fees are required. Mr. Oquist added another way to state that would be fees that are authorized (park fees) and fees that are unauthorized. This fee was unauthorized. Mr. Boardman explained one use would Ue the correction of docanstream storm sewer problems. Some sort of action in the future to alleviate those problems will have to be taken and possibly this was wliat the City Manger's office had in mind. Mr. Aarris said we should get the Council and city attorney's opinion on this fee. He wanted to know how the city can charge for something before the policy has Ueen written and authorized. Mr. Boardman went on to say the staff could see no development proUlems caith the p1aC. The only possible one would Ue access on to Lakeside Road. City ordinance requires Che developer to oUtain access in and out of a new plat. Ms. Schnabel asked for the aerial of this neigfiborhood and where the homes and gaxages were located by the planned Lakeside Road access. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 7 1979 PAGE 4 Ms. Karla Blomberg, 1661 Camelot Lane came fonuard. She said she was unaware of this $800.00 per lot environmental development fee until recently. She did not know how the city could arbitrarily decide on such a fee. Ms. Blomberg said she talked to the City Manager on it and did not get any answeres that could show the need for such a fee. She said her lawyer_ was checking in to it. She asked Mr. Harris to please check into it also. Ms. Hughes asked if she would go along with the new road plan for the Lakeside Road access. Ms. Blom6erg said she had not had time to negotiate, but thought the new plan would be okay. She felt the road should be moved because of safety (too close to a garage) and looks. She also said the Rice Creek Watershed District was meeting on the 28th of this month to discuss the plat. She was told toitait on any sewer and water plan until after that meeting so any conditions or reco�endations could be implemented in the plan. Mr. Harris said a final sewer and water plan would be required before the plat was given final approval. Ms. Schnabel asked if she owns this land and would be developing it. Ms. Blomberg replied a contractor, her husband and herself own the land and would be constructing cu3vm built homes. Ms. Hughes noted the lot widths varied from 75 to 90 feet and wondered why they had done this. Ms, Blomberg said the different lot widths allow homeowners to choose a lot and house plan without having to worry about getting variances. Some house plans require a wider lot then others. It also gives less conformity to the neighborhood. N3r. Boardman said one change reco�ended by staff would be to switch the lot widths of Lots 11 and 14, Block 3, with those of Lots 12 and 13, Block 3. Tfiis would make the corner lots 85 Eeet wide instead of 80 feet and with the sideyard requirements, develo- ping the lots would be easier. Mr. Harris asked for audience discussion. Mr. Leo Heyne, 7550 Lakeside Road, said he was the owner of the lot which the Lakeside Road access would be by. Mr. Heyne said he was unaware until after he bought his home that his house was placed so he had no rear yard, only sideyard. He stated he would be w illing to work out an agreement where the proposed Yoad could jog over onto his sideyard. He would then buy the land to the rear of his property and create a Iarger backyard for himself. Mr. Heyne said if he purchased appxoximately 45 feet and with some juggling of the developer's lot lines, the plat would have the same number of lots. ' Mrs. Winifred Maki, 7520 Lakeside Road, said she lives on the opposite side of the pro- posed road. Her garage would be located 5 feet Erom the road. She expressed concern on t he water table. There was a creek bed in this area and she questioned if the new con- struction could cause the water tabel to rise. She also said she was against the street going in next to her garage because she would loose her sideyard. Mr. Oquist questioned what creek Mrs, Maki was referring to. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 7 1979 PAGE 5 Mx. Boardman said this was an underground creek bed and Comstock and Davis had been asked to determine the level of the water table and flow for this area. Mr. Greg Kline, 7612 Arthur Street, said he was concerned by the possibility of head- lighes shining into homes where the proposed streets came out. He also wanCed to know if the entire plat would ba graded and leveled at one time and then allowed to sit until construction starts. Ms. Blomberg replied it was too expensive to level the entire area without any construc- tion coimnitments. They also intend to leave the land as natural and rolling as it was presently. Mr. L1oyd Dawson, 1525-75th Avenue NE, asked what type of construction would be put in the area. Mr. Harris replied it would be all R-1, single family dwellings. Mr. Jim Carlson, 7531 Lakeside Road, wanted to kno�o why the street could not be brought out to the county road (Osborne Road) instead of having an additional 40 people trying to get out by using Lakeside Road. He said the corner of Lakeside and Osborne was a vis- ually hazardous intersection already. If the road came out onto Osborne, perhaps the county would improve the road. This would also keep more traffic ofi of a residential street where there are kids playing. Mr. Harris said the ciCy has no control over what the county does and they were touchy about giving any road accesses on their roads. Ms, Blomberg said if the road went through Lots 1-4, Block, they would loose 2 lots, plus Lot 21 would have roads on 3 sides, Mrs, John Hennes, 7600 Arthur Street, asked if the developers would be rezoning the area at all or leaving it R-1. � Mr. Blomberg said they would be leaving it R-1. Mr, Carlson asked if they would grade and fill in the low spots and then start building, He was worried about excess dusC blowing around. Mr. Blomberg said they would grade for the streets firts and then do 1 to 5 lots at a time. Mrs. Blomberg e,dded that she could see the possibility of filling in lo�o spots w ith fill from the area and that could cause some dust problems. Mrs. Karen Lennox, 7547 Lakeside Road, wanted to kno�o if there had to be an'acces on to Lakeside Road from 75z Avenue or if there was any other type �f access possible. Mr. Harris sai3 it would be difficult to place the road elsewhere. , Mrs. Lennox stated it wouldn`t be difficult, but expensive to the developer. She was not sure of tlie alternative available, but felt Mr. Carlson's suggestion of having an access onto Osborne Road was good, She also said with the number of homes involved, possibly matching up a road with 76th or bringing the new Yoad back around to Arthur Street would be a solution. PT,ANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVEPIBER 7 1979 PAGE 6 Members of the audience who live on Arthur Street o6jected to the latter proposal be- cause all the traffic burden would be on their street. Mr. Boardman said if they matched up with 76th Avenue they would need a cul-de-sac to run down to service the soiith lots. City codes limit the length that a cul-de-sac can be. Due to police and fire protection and streeC maintenance, city policy was to keep away from cul-de-sacs. Ms, Hughes pointed out if a street was put in to match up with 76th, a cul••de-sac plus one more street would still be needed. She wanted to know if there was some other alternative. Mx. Boardman said you would have to have at least 1 or 2 cul-de-�acs then. Cul-de-sacs take up more area and the sewer and water has to be looped to service the homes. It was very expensive fox the developer plus expensive for the city to maintain. Mr. Heyne said he would go along with a cul-de-sac-to service the lots in back of his propexty. He also pointed out the cul-de-sac that was recently built on Flanery. Mrs. Maki asked if the commission would recommend a cul-de-sac by their property if it meant them loosing 25 feet of their property to a road. , Mr. Boardman said he could understand Mrs. Maki's feelings, but again stated because of development costs and mair.tenance costs the city wants to stay away from cul-de-sacs. Mr, Heyne said he was not convinced of the maintenance problem. He walks by the one on Flanery on his way to work each day and has never seen a snow removal problem. �Is. SchnabeT said she lives on a cul-de-sac and they ha�e had terrible snow removal pro- blems in the winterse The plowing was a pain and they have had to have special plows come out and either push the snow way up into their yards or into the middle of Yhe cul- de-sac. She al��o said living on a cul-de-sac was noiser because you are closer to your neighbor's home. NTrs. Maline Fish, 7501 Lakeside Road, said she did not like cul-de-sacs either and pro- posed the road to come back onto Arthur Street. Mr. Oquist pointed out the traffic burden would then be on only those homeowners. pLs, Schnabel asked if the developer had tried any other access designs. Ms, Blomberg replied they are not trying to make it difficult for the present homeowners They had worked with the Planning Department on the plan and this was the most feasible as far as potential development and costs. The surveyor they had contacted felt this was the most feasible plan also. Mr. John Hennes, 7600 Arthur Street, asked about the possibi2ity of flipping the plan. Mr. Harris said this w aild make the Lakeside Road access too c7.ose to Oshorne Road and could cause a stacking proUlem on Lakeside Road. This would be a safety hazard. Mrs. Lennox suggested trading off the road access the city already has on Lots 21 and 22, put the road in to line up with 76th Avenue and then re-shuffle the lot widths on Lake- side Road. PI,ANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 7 i979 PAG� 7 Mr. Boardman said Lots 21 and 22 could not he serviced if they were to be split. It was asked how Lots 1 and 2 on the north end would be serviced. Mr. Harris said if these lots are split, a driveway easement would be required across Lot 4 to service Lot 2. Ms. Blomberg agreed to that. A 25 feet driveway easement would be dedicated for this purpose. MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to close the public hearing. UPON A VOIC� VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMt1N ITA1�tIS DECLAREA THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMO'JSLY. PUBLIC HEARING CIASED AT 9:02 P.M. Ms. Hughes said there were other alternative solutions for the xoads, but none seemed as feasible as the one presented. She felt because of the stacking problem if the plan was flipped, the added cul-de-sacs and because right-of-way had already been dedicaeed, this plan was the best. However, this-plan would depend on if an agreement could be made between the 2 homeooJners and the developer. Ms. Schnabel said unless that agreement was made, it would be hard to say what could happen. If they can`t make that agreement the plan may have to be reviewed by the Planning Commission again. The burden was on the developer to get the needed access. She fe1L- a reconunendation could be made to the City Council base3 on that agreement or else the Council will have to come up with some other solution. P4s. Hughes said with all the stipulations reqeested by staff and the agreement that was needed for road access, what was the best way to hanale this request. Mr. Harris said the commission had the option to deny the request, or make a recommenda- tion for approval to Council with the staff stipulations plus the access agreement. IY t he access agreement c:as not worlced out, it should come back to the commission. Ms. Hughes said she would like to see the recommendation first by the Rice Creek Water- shed District. Ms. Blomberg said if the Rice Creek Watershed District required holding or retention ponds that would change the configuration of the plat. However when she did talk to t h�n, they thought the plan looked okay. If reconfiguration was needed, then she would have to come back to the Planning Commission. Possibly they could make a recom- mendation on that possibility. Mr. Boardman suggested they pass recoimnendation to Council if there was no r@configuration change. Ii there was a reconfiguxation then it should come back to the co;nmission ior review. He could not see any point in holding up the plat if there was no�change. Ile pointed out that Council could change the final plat if necessary. Mr. Harris stated that was true, but would like to see the plan go to Council as com- , plete as possible. MOTION by Ms. Hughes to continue the discussion on Preliminary Plat P.S, d�79-03, Blomberg Estates. e PLANNZNG COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 7 1979 PAGE 8 Chairman Harris declared the motion failed because of a lack of a second. MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to reco�nend to City Cauncil approval of proposed Preliminary Plat, P.S, ip79-03, Blomberg Estates with the following stipulations: 1. Work out costs of authorized fees (park fees). 2. Work out agreement on right-of-way acquisition to provide access. 3. Rice Creek Watershed approval. 4. Sewer and water layout approval by staff. 5. Drainage and utility easements around each lot be dedicated. 6. Dedication of a 25 foot driveway easement to Lot Z, Block 2, thru Lot 4. 7. Switch the lots sizes of Lots 11 and 14, Block 3 with those of Lots 12 and 13, Block 3. 8, If the plat was reconfigured, for any reason, the plat will come back to the Planning Cocmnission for further review. Mr. Boardman said staff would also like to see Cleveland Street changed to Anoka Street. Mr. Carlson asked if Mr. Heyne and Mrs. Maki cannot reach an agreement would the fixst alternative road configuration be to line up with 76th Avenue. Mr. Harris said he could not say that for sure. What the Planning Commission was trying to do, was if there was any reconfiguration, the plan would come back to Yhe co�inssion for review. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CiiAIRMAN IiARItIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Boardman said the Council will set a Public Hearing for this in January at their December 3, 1979 meeting. Mr. Harris asked to have the homeowners renotified if the plan has to come back to the Planning Commission. 3. RECEIVE tNMAN RESOURCES COrA1I5SI0N MINUTES: OCTOBER 18, 1979 MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to receive the Human Resource Conunission minutes of October 18, 1979. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN iiAR12IS DECLAR�D THE MOTION CARRIED , ANANIMOUSLY. Ms. Aughes said the discussion on fundinS was referred to the Council. The Council had received recommendations from the Planning Commission before and had sent those recommendations back to the Human Resource Commission. She wanted to know if Planning Commission had more.to say on the funding resources, She wished to discuss them more. PI.ANNING COMMISSION ME�TING NOVII9BER 7, 1979 PAG� 9 Mr. Boardman said he noticed they had allowed money for a contingency fund (35% of $10,000) and wanted to know if there was money availaUle for that fund c.o u1d they use it up on more requests or what would happen to it. Mr. Treuenfels said the other requests received totaled $6,500 and they have received one more request and wi11 probably get more. The money for those additional requests will presumably come out of the contingency fund. Ms. Hughes said the request to determine the amounts came down by either the Council or the City Manager. They did not give an exact dollar amount to work with and the Human Resource Commission picked out the amount of $10,000. It was hard to give a certain percentage for each request Uecause if the dollar amount was different, say only $5,000, the commission could have ranked each request different. The commission was not given enough. information to work with. How can you give a request a percentage of an unkown amount. That was a critical question. She felt the dollar amounts alloted each request should be increase, lor example to $20,000 each, plus increase the amount of the contingency fund to help iund the critical area reques� like SACA, Mr. Boardman said he had some questions and problems on that. The idea that Council and the City Manager's office was getting at was you have an unknown amount of dollars, and five requests. How would prioritize each request and decide what percentage each priority gets. If there was only $5,0�0 available and pxiority one xequests Sg�000, do we give them all of the money available or do we give them only a percentage of the amount available. Mr. Oquist said the percentage business was fine for what we know today. But, was this something we go thru the first of each year. We may not know then who zaill be requesting finds and how much. Mr. Harris said he would like to see no dollar amounts, but decided on percentage figures. Does priority one get 50% of what ever amount was availaUle. He felt there should be a cut off date on the applications so that- the amounts can be budgeted into the next year's budget. He felt this was what Cnuncil was looking for.� Ms. Hughes said Council got that in these minutes. The Auman Resource Commission recom- mended 160% funding of the requests. She said Planning Coc�ission should concur� with that recommendation. Mx. Treuenfels said the request by AKICIC was not in at the time of this meeting that decided on the other requests. Mr. Boardman said he £elt that recormnendation would be a good one. to sent to Council. He also said the applications should be in by a certain cut off date so the Human Resouxce Commission can give the requests priority listing. Those priorities would be ranked however that commission wislied, perhaps by service to the community. They then would have to give eacl� priority a percentage. For example, priority one gets 50% of their funds or do they get 50% of their request. Mr. Treuenfels doubted the scheme of priarity one gett-ing all the funds if funds are low and no one else getting anything. Mr. Boardman stated that was why the Human Resource Conunission had to decide how to divide up the availaUle funds. PLADINING COMMISSION MEETING NOVIIfBER 7 1979 PAGE'10 Mr. Oquist said it will be known how much money there was available because these requests will be asked for before the new budget was adopted. Ms. Hughes questioned what happens to requests that come in after the budget has been adopted. There will be money still available somehow, somewhere in the budget. Mr. Harris said he has a problem with how these request come in now. How can the City justify to the taxpayers having a$100,000 contingency fund that may not be used. Ms. Hughes said she could understand that point, but requests will come up later and h ow do we handle them. Mr. Harris said we only have so much money that we can work with. If we went to the Federal gove�mment after their cut off we would be told the same thing. Mr. Boardman replied that was why a process should be set up. Right now Council was setting up a priorities list arbitrarily on a first come first serve basis.The money has never been budgeted for these requests. We need to have the Human ResouYce Commis- sion make recommendations and set up a list. Mr. Harris said he was against slush funds. Ae felt it was better to have monies budgeted. Ms. Hughes replied the lobbying for funds should be done while the budget was being worked on and not through the Human Resource Cou¢nis�n. Mr. Boardman said the Humzn Resource Commission would be needed to set up priorities. If the Council has a priority list, they can then determine the amount of money avail- able and neaded. They could cut and add to the contiugency fund as needed by this priority list. MOTSON by PIs, Rughes to concurr with the recommendation to the City Council by the Human Resource Commission on allocation of funds to the�Central Center for Family Resources ($5,000), Anoka County Senior Citizen Outreach Program ($1,000) and SACA ($500). Chaixznan Harr.is declared the motion failed because of a lack of a second. Mr. Harris wanted to know if these requests come out of the 1980 budget. Ms, Hughes said no, fhey should come out of the 1979 hudget. Mr. Boardman said it would more then lilcely have to come out of the 1980 budget. . Ms. Hughes said these requests were received in June and July and they want the money now. Mr. Oquist pointed out that if they recommende3 approval of the money tonight, it will probably not be paid until January 2, 1980, so therefore it will be 1980 budgeted money. Steve Kline, representing Anoka County Senior Citizen's Outreach Program, said his pro- g ram placed it's request about 4 months ago and are on a very tight budget. Anyway to speed up the grocess to get the money would be appreciated. � PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVII�A3ER 7 1979 PAGE' 11 Mr. Harris said they are not sure where the money was budgeted, but would not with hold it if they l�ad it. Ms. Schnabel asked if in 7 or 8 month these requests would need more money, where does t he money come from then. Mr. Kline said as of 7u1y, 1980, this program will be locally funded with a 50% matching Federal grant. This contribution from Fridley would be a one time contribution. They have already received funds from neighboring cities. Ms. Schnagel asked how the other cities appropriated funds. Mr. Boardman said the same way we are doing it. Mr. Oquist said requests made in 1980 will have te be handled the same way they are now being handled. Requests in 1981 will be budgeted for. However,.these programs that request funds will have to be notified so they lcnow of Che new funding policq, We will have to play it by ear until budgeting starts in 1980 for the 1981 budget. If we don't have the money to give out until the budgeted money takes over, then we won't. Mr. Boardman agreed. He said what Planning Commission will be saying was that the pxe- sent requests will Ue paid for out of the 1980 slush fund. As of July, 1980, we wi11 start the new policy where programs make application fox budgeted money. The Human Resource Co�nission will then prioritize the requests and Council will then budget £or them. Mr. Oquist said that was what he was saying. We cannot prioritize these requests or set a percentage on them because there was no 1980 budget for thent. The Planning Commission recommends paying the stated amount for .each request and that was all they could do now. Ms, Aughes said the City could pay these requests before January 2, 1980 if they really want2d to. - Mr. Harris wanted to know if SACA's request would be enough. He could noc imagine them making their budget on only $500 until 1981. He felt they should be contacted to see if that would be enough. Ms. Hughes said she would go and ca11 Pat Brennen and ask her to come to the meeting. Chairman Harris declared a recess at 10;08 P,M, and reconveyned at 10:25 P.M. Pat Brennen, President of the Board and Co-ordinator of SACA, said she had turned her request in last summer, plus she sent a letter to Mr. Qureshi and did not geC a reply. Later she and Mr. Watson, also of SACA, went and saw Mro Qureshi and were [old at that time $500 was little enough for what SACA does for the community. They are sti11 wait- ing for their money. Tir. Harris explained they wcre setting up a new program which could eliminate any more funding until January 2, 1981. This $500 approved now may have to last SACA for an 18 month period and wanted to lcnow if that amount was enough, Mrs. Brennen said she believed SACA should get money from Rridley each year. Columbia Heights has donated a house plus utilities for them to use. Al1 they pay was $40 a PLANNING CONAfISSION MEETING. NOVE[1BrR 7, 1979 ' PAGE 12 month for telephone service. SACA serves more Fridley residents then Columbia Heights and should help in funding. She stated they would need the $500 for 1979 and an addi- tional $500 for 1980. That amount would cover the telephone service. Mr. Oquist asked if they would be notifying Central Center. Mr. Harris said no. The commission felt $5,000 was a good size contribution. Ms. Hughes said the program has started. They have had 5 state grant reviews and were turned dopn on the last one. They have been told the grant program that they wrote was too good and they are too new. They have only been in operation since August, 1979. She said they are in worse needs of funds now then if they had gotten state funds. They have been serving families in the area already. Some funding has come through Blaine, Spring Lake Park and Medtronic. Their biggest p=ohlem was getting funds for administra- tive costs and individual counseling. They plan to add one more counselor for individual counseling, but the counseling fees wiil pay for that. It was an expensive, but needed, service. The $5,000 would be used to help set up the first year of operation, Mr. Harris questioned the status of KKKK. Mr. Treuenfels said they have asked for $3,000. But the Human Resource Commission did not feel they had looked elsewhere for funding help and also were not sure how many people this program reached. Members of IuQ� had offered to pay more than the $10 per year fee, but had been turned down by the Board of I�KIZ. He said the Human Resource Commission recommended to the Planning Co�nission at their last meeting matching funds up to $1,SU0. MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Hughes to concur with the recommendations by the Human Resourc� Commission:to recommend to the City Council to pay the following fund requests: 1. Central Center for Family Resources 2. Anoka Cty. Sr. Citizens Outreach Program 3. SACA, change from $500 to 4. KKKK matching funds up to 5. Coxitingency Fund, reduced to $5,000 50% $1,000 10% $1,000 10% $1,500 15% $1,500: 15% Ms. Hughes asked if percentages where included in Mr. Treuenfels motion. Mr. Treuenfels said yes and also the contingency fund, Ms. Hughes withdrew her second. Ghairman Harris declared the motion failed because of a lack of a second, MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded 6y Ms. Hughes to concur with the recommendations by the Human Resource CommisSion to recommend to the City Council to pay the following fund requests: Percentages are not nr.cluded in the motion 1. Central Center for Family Resources $5,000 2. Anolca Cty, Sr. Citizens Outreach Program $1,000 3, SACA, change from $500 to $1,000 4. 'ICKKK, matching funds up to $1,500 5. Contingency Fund, reduced to $1�500 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 7 1979 PAGE 13 Mr. Oquist questioned the time limit on KI:KK for xaising £unds to receive the matching funds of up to $1,500. He felt there should be a cuY off period. He said he did not know what the KKKK was and it did not seem right to him that SACA or the Sr. Citizen Outreach Program should only get $1,000 each. He also could not go along with the motion because of the contingency fund. Mr. Treuenfels explained what Kh'I� was, stating it was a place for parents and pre- schoolers to come and do activities with their children, other children and parents. They use a room at the Community Education building. They did present a budget of $3100. Nir. Boardman said if the $3,000 had been approved we would have been funding their entire program. Mr. Oquist could not see where that much funding would be required. lie pointed especially since they turned down additional funding by the peop2e who use the program, Mrs. Brennen said she was on the Education Advisory Board and the funding was based on a strong community need for a preschool pzogram. This was an ungoing program and she hated to see it stopped. Mr. Oquist said it should get some support from the school district, Ms. Schnabel said the program almost sounded like a day care center. Mrs. Brennen said the parents are involved with the program each time their child was there. The thought was tlie parent was the most important teacher a child has. Mr. Oquist felt the people using this program should be able to fund it more then they were. Ms. Schnabel felt it seemed to touch the different areas of social work, parks and rec- reation and education and was not sure if it was someth'ing the City should fund. Mr. Boardman ::tated this was were the priorities will help out. If an organization, t hat helps the citizens, has looked at all aspects of funding their program and none was available, then the city could help. It seemed the KKRK had not looked at a11 the areas yet open to them ior funding. That was an important question for the city to ask. MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Ms. Schnabel to ammend the original motion to read Chat KI:RK must raise by July 1, 1980, at least $1,000 to receive matching fund up to $1,000 from the City. UPON A VOICE VOTE, SCHN�EL, IiARRIS, HtTGHES VOTING AYE: TREUENFELS, OQUIST, 4i0RA VOTING NAY, CHAI12A7AN HAFRIS DECLARED THE MOTION FAILED BECAUSE OF A TIB VOTE. Mr. Oquist said KKKK should not be funded until funds are shown to Ue needed, MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. ftora to ammend the original motion by deleting the ICK1:K allocation from the motion. UPON A VOICE VOTE, OQUIST, HUGIiES, IlARRIS, SCF:NASEL, HORA VOTING AYE; TREUENFELS, VOTING NAY� C1IAIPSIAN 1IARRIS DECLARED TH� MOTION CARRIED. , PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, P]OVEMBCR 7, 1979 PAGE 14 Ms, Schnabel said KKKK should come to the Planning Commission to answer funding questions that they have. MOTION 6y Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. ilughes, to ammend the original motion by removing the contingency fund from the motion. UPON A VOICE VOTE, OQUIST, HUGHES, IIARI2IS SCHNABEL HORA VOTING AYE; TREUENFII.S VOTING NAY� CHAIRMAN IIARRIS DECLAItED THE MOTION CARRIED. . Chairman Harris called for a vote on the original motion as a�nended. UPON A VOIC� VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN tIARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRED UNANIMOUSLY, MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to recommend to City Council that a new procedure be set up that states any group requesting city funds have their request in Uy July lst, of each year to allow budgeting for the next fiscal year. These requests will be turned over to the Human Resource Commission for prioritization, Each request shall include a request Eor a specific dollar amount, operating budget, an explanation of need, how the money wil2 be used and other sources of funding available to the appli- cant. This program will be in effect Tuly 1, 1980. Ms. Hughes said some sort of review process should be set up so the Human Resource Commis- sion known how the Council feels. Mr. Boardman said the Planning Co�ission can have staff set up a review process program. The staff could have the program set up around January 15, 7.980 and the Planning Commis- sion could review it at that time. Ms, Schnabel pointed out that this motion states applications must be in by July 1. How do the potential applicants know of the deadline. Pir. Boardman said that will be included in the review process program to be set up by statf. . UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAI�'.HARRIS DECLAiZED THE MOTIDN CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, MOTION by Ms, Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to authorize the city staff to set up a review process program to be braught to the Plannin� Commission no later then January 15, 1980. The review process will include the Planning Commission, Council and Human Resource Commission. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAYRTfAN IIARRIS D�CLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 4, RECENE PUBLIG HEARING NOTICE FROM SPRING I,ARE PARK . MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to receive the public hearing notice from Spring Lake Park. Mr. Boardmaa said he believed this building was a hlock structure to be used for storage, UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN Iit1iZRIS DECLARED THE P10TION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. �I -.,,.� PLANNTNG COMEIISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 7 1979 PAGE 15 5. REC�IVE ENVIRONM�NTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MIIv*UT�S: OCTOBER 16,1979 MOTION by Mr. Hora, seconded by Ms. SchnaUel to receive the Environmental Quality Commission minutes of October 16, 1979. UPON A VOICE VOTB, ALL VOTING AYE, C}iAIRMAN liARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNAI^IIMOUSLY, 6. RECEIVE PARKS AND RECREATIOiQ COM1`TiSSSON MINUTES: OGTQB�R 17 1479 MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Oquist to receive the Parks and Recreation Commission minutes of October 17, 1979. A questioned was noted on the date stated on page 2, 6th paragraph and also a correction noted on the time in the 1st paragraph, page 4; 10:30 P.M, to 10:30 A,M, Mr. Harris said he noticed the Woodcrest Baptist Church use of public parks for their physical education needs was being discussed again. He thought this problem had been handled earlier. Ms. Hughes said there had been some discussions and some agreements made earlier, but Woodcrest was not being very cooperative. Mr, Harris asked to ma'.;e sure the Parks Commission and Park Department got scme type of agreement on this problem, UPON A VOICF. VOTE, ALL VOTING AYS, CHAIRI`7AN HARRIS DECL?.RT'D TFG^ NIOTION GARFIED UNAPIL'40L�TSLY, 7. CONTI1vTiTED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZONING N.�6TIQN by Mr. Oquist, seconded 6y Mr, Treuenfels to continue Y.he discussion on pxoposed changes to Chapter 205. Zoning, until Che Special Meeting to be he13, Thursday, November 15, 1974, at 7:30 P.M. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRM�IN HARItIS DECliAl2ED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 8. OTIIER BUSINESS : Mr. Boardman noted the hand out "People Building Neighborhoods", that each member had received, lie said anyone wishing to attend should get approval of their conunission and notify him by December lst. Ms. Sch�bel asked to have this Urochure given to the Appeals Commission at their next meeting. Mr. Boardman poinYed out to the commission that the City Council at their last meeting had set up an Energy Commission. • Discussion on environmental development fees: Mr. Harris said he would be going eitiier as a mem6er of the Planning Commission os as a private citizen to tlze ne�ct Council meetiug to get some inforniation and answers on Che PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVEPiBER 7 1979 PAG� 16 so called "environmental development fee". The commission wanted to get answers for: 1. How can a fee be implemented without authorization? 2. Were does the fee money go after collected? (General fund, slush fund, etc.) 3. What was the money used for? (future storm sewers, tree planting, etc.) 4. Were was the wrieten policy on this fee? , Mr. Harris said when the fees and purpose of the fees were discussed and decided upon, there was no mention of this type of fee. ADJOiTRI4MENT : MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to adjourn the Planning Co�nission meeting of November 7, 1979. UPON_A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE,':CiiAIRMAN IiARRIS DECLARED THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT 11.45 P.M. Respectfully submitted, � aula Long, Reco ing Secretary e.� _!,� PU6LIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COPIMISSION m Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, November 28, 1979 in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M, for the purpose of: Consideration of a request for a Special Use Permit, SP #79-12,.by Richard N. Carlson, per Section 205.157, 5, D, of the Fridley City Code, to allow the construction of a 26 ft. by 25 1/2 ft. addition to an existing structure in CRP-2 zoning (flood plain), located on Lots 5, 6 and 7, Block W, Riverview Heights, the same being 615 Cheryl Street N.E. Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an.opportunity at the above stated time and place. Publish: November 14, 1979 November 21, 1979 RICHARD H, HARR?S CHAIRMAN PLANNING COMMISSION c e v � CITY 0� FRIDLEY MINNGSOTA .• � ' PLANNT.NG APJU ZONING I�ORhf NUMDflR � ��'�-� APPLTCM'T'S SIGNATURE wlf,rn,4� �i. .7,1�,.. __ � Telephane Number '7g � - S-q'7 ( PROPERTY OWNER'S SIGNATllRE ,��r��{/ `�I� ll�(A-m, ; is � TYPE OF REQUEST Rezoning y., Spccial Use Permit T' Approval of Fremin- inary f, Final Plat Streets or Alley Vacations Address �/,�" a��p .� %1 � Ofiher Telephone Number "��- ��17/ �`' Fee%%� Receipt No. J ,5' Street Location of Proper.ty ,( (�� .(/F. .�� n .� q / • ' q Legal Description of Property � Present 'Loning Classification ��_Existing Use of Property �/�,n0 D.�d Acreage of Property ��'75 �f(//O Describe briefly the proposed zoning classificatioil or type of use and improvement proposed yid. ��e ,w� � .. _ . . �, . v � Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or variance or special use permit on the subject site or par.t of it? yes Y/ �o. _��.,t_ 4ihat v.as r..quested and when? 77�e undersigned understands that: (a) a lisY of all resi.dents and owners of property within 30� feet (350 feet for rezoning) must be attached to tllis applicatior.. (b) Thi_s :pplication must be signed by all owners of the property, or an e��laiiation given why this is not. the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the groc.eedings resulting from the failure to list the nanes and addr.esses of all resi-dents and praperty owners of property in question, belongs to the undersigned. A sketclt ef proposed pr.operty and structure must be dra�-rn and attaclied, sho»ing �lie following: 1. North Direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on tl�e lot. 3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setbacks. 4. Street Names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing builcii.ngs (��ri.thin 30C1 �'ect.) Tife unJersigned hereUy declares �hat all the fa ts and representations,stated i.n this application are true and correct. �� .d/�'"�- ' . DA'fE STGNATURt;,��y��j��2!�.C-��-(��11�72% .� . — (AP}'LICAN'I') Date Piled Date uf 1{earitsb __ Planning Conunission Ap��rovcd � City Council Ap�n•ovcd (datcs) Dcni_al� ` (datcs) lleni.ed, MAILING LIST SP #79-12 Richard N. Carlson to allow an addition to an existing house at 615 Cheryl St. Planning Commission 11-13-i9 19 Nona T. Peterson Mr. & Mrs. Frederick Larson Stewart Kualheim 541 Dover Street N.E. 670 Dover Street N.E. 4242 Reservoir Blvd Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432 Minneapolis, Mn 55421 Dale Severson E.E. & R.S. Tatro 591 Dover Street N.E. 11530 Foley Blvd. Fridley, Mn 55432 Coon Rapids, Mn 55433 Mr. & Mrs. Garland Lagesse 7951 Broad Street N.E. Fridley> Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Edwin Johnson 625 Dover Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Einar Erickson 631 Dover Street N.E fridley, Mn 55432 Bradley Colehaur 641 Dover Street N.E. Fridley> Mn 55432 6ordon Hedlund 1255 Pike Lake Drive New Brighton, Mn 55112 Mr. & Mrs. Gerald Kostohreyz 609 Cheryl Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Richard Carlson 615 Cheryl Street NE Fridley, Mn 55432 Teresa Gazda 627 Cheryl Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Marion Hudyma 641 Cheryl Street N.E. Fridley> Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. M. Dwight Just 661 Cheryl Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Loren Papesh 7965 Riverview Terrace N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Raymond Wafer 640 Dover Street N.E. Fridley> Mn 55G32 Ardath Fuehrer 620 Dover Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Robert Rutherford 610 Dover Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Wilmer Tiede 581 Buffalo Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Lawrence Thompson 671 Buffalo Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 � Stephen Bren 641 Buffalo Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. Scott Anderson 7921 Riverview Terrace N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 htr. & Mrs. Bruce Mathison 7941 Riverview Terrace N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Robert Kahls 640 Cheryl Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Kenneth Nivala 630 Cheryl Street N.E. 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' I 1 ' - ( � t < ( <.l ..� � . . . . . . .. . . . _. \ �: . 1` � � , '. . . . a:�� 4 a _ . . . . .�.<. . n� LL CITY OF FftIDLEY F�l APPLICANT: G 'Y PASCIIKI' Fridley, r4innesota 55432 ADDRESS: 7z58 CoMmer�� r^�� r�a^+ Street City 'Lip Code TEL�PHONE �� 559 1651 5']7-Ft�hE, Home Ftusiness PROPF�?TY OWNE[t(S) G.VJ. PASCHKE ADDRESS(ES 1C�T1t � 3 Lot 5plit S' -�_ Date Filed: � Fee:$ Receipt � Council Action:llate REi'iARKS : Street City Zip Code TLLEPHOPTE #(S) 554 1651 7`z..l—�4h� - Home Business Property Location on Street or E�act Street Address (7F ANY} � Commerce Circle South Fridlev. Minnesota 5543?_ of Property: East',one foot of Lot 10 Blk. 1 Paco Industrial Park �j/ S U �iG�.�'ur� u% G�/�.F,/' /.�/�!. £or Lot Split: Buildin encroachment from Lot 9 Blk. 1 Paco 2ndustrial Pa.rk _ Area sq. it. Zoning' Classifica The �mdersigned hereby declares that a' the facts and representations stated in this appli ion are t u an correct. DAT�: 11-8-79 SIGNATQRE ' - Gera d VJ. a c ke �`°� 13EL04J FOR CITY IISP OidLY (See reverse side for additional instructions;� � CkIL•'CKLD 13Y STAFF llATE � Hem�zrks : PLANNIPIG CODI�IISSION: Date of Consideration - Remarl:s • � CITY COIINCIL: D�.te of Consideration - liemui k� : ; ,. Surve�ors Ce�tifac�te 23 COM5TOCK & DAVIS, IIdC. Consulting Engineers and Land 5urveyors 2446 County Road J, PVIinneapolis, MN 55432, (612) 784-93-0b SUF,VEY FOR Paco 5920 Kirkwood Lane Pl}�mounth� tin, 55442 {.. ��NI ��6� O�/f Y N�/� ♦" • � �l' �, M r �^ „„n �dJ SURVEY OF Lot split of Lot 10, ElY.. 1, Paco Industrial Park, Fridley Anoka Co., Mn. l. ::�t f i S�t°4i�12�W-33?.55' U .F , s. y� EIa U'tl � J i � � v�''6 �- �; r=------- ; ---------_�\ �c��9�8 75� � � �� .� ( �� F28 I � � � ` - �i I I _ i � � e� I � 'a �I 1 � j �� PA R C E t... O � I � — � '� L..Ot �ti� "`��" r~� ?`�30' ris. 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I H q' I ��Mi � N � _ _� i M 2 I .__ �__ � � I i � � I� i i� ' <. <.. � ' _"'^"'' i \_/n1r�.i� I/ ��..-._. -_______ . �— �3_ - . . ` � f � ---�- Jj � � i�0 q�7 ,l�% / ��: Y:':I\=�1! � ;'� h �, Jf J,�"' . ' � /.;.; rf �. ' � �' `'JU'l� l:n: ni',h.� 4��,;1t�� y t,�.o,��n� ��''"i�� n.�„�,? , .. . . . . .,.. ... . . . . ..';3'. . .:'r,-�tt �... ..,. . . . . . , ,.�a^; IiIIMAN RESOURCES GOMMiSSION MEETIN� NOVEMB�R 1, 1979 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Peter Treuenfels called the November 1, 1979, Human Resources Commission meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Peter Treuenfels, Mary van Dan, Wayne Saunders Members Absent; Marlyis Carpenter Others Present: Peter Fleming, Administrative Assistant Muriel Sharpe, KKKI: Chairperson Barbara Stillson, ILHI�K Pat Bruzek, KY.I:IC ' Connie Gundiach, KKKK APPRQVAL OF QCTQBE:4 18, 1979, HUMAN RESOtPiCES CQ�;ISSIv^i3 P1INUiES: ¢ MO'fION by Ms. van Dan, seconded by Mx. Saund�rs, to appr�ve the NovemUer l, 1979, Human Resources Commission minuCes approved ae written. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Treuenfels declared the motion carried unanimously. l. PRESENTATION BY KKKK (KOPING WITH KIDS FROM KRADLE TO KINDERGARTEN): NLs, Sharpe stated that KKIZK began approximately two years ago when Don Larson retired from School District �k14. Don Larson was a leader in the SGate of Minnesota with creaCive ideas for preschool screening and preschool education. At the time he retired from the district, because of a lack of funds and declining enrollment, there was a question as to who could take over the program he was doing with parents of preschoolers.. Several parents were approached by Coa¢nunity Education and asked if they were willing to take over the program and keep it going and try to expand the program to serve the parents of pre- schoolers in Che community, ti Ms. Sharpe stated that the main function they started with and wixat they hoped to lceep as their main function in the program was informational and support groups for parents. They felt it �oas very important for parents to know there are other parents going Chrough the same problems. HUMAN RF;SOURCES COMMISSION MEETL*IG NOVEMI3ER 1 1979 - PAGE 2 Ms. Sharpe read KKRK's philosophy to the Commission members: "Education and training is demanded of most careers, but the most important and demanding' career of all, parenting, Uecomes one of guesswork and worrying over what is rtght or wrong. Far too long parents have been hesitant to admit their concerns for fear of admitting failure. In reality, we a11 have concerns, doubts, and ' fears." Ms. Sharpe stated that through guest speakers and group discussions, they are trying to pass information on to parent's and trying to give them the support they need in their very important roles as parents. Ms. Sharpe stated that in discussions with parents during the first year they were in operation, they tried to find out what way they could serve the community and preschool parent community as a whole and how they could help them with their parenting skills and improve on their relationships with their children, The one thing that came up most was the fact that in the Minnesota climate, there are many activiti.es in the summer, but in the winter, activities for young children are at a standstiil. With declining enrollment and the smaller pre- school population, children have to go further and further away from home to have a playmate in their own age group. She stated that, basically, Chat was how the function of the Creative Play Center came about. Ms. Sharpe stated tnat one of the functions of the ItHICK is to put out a monthly newsletter called the "Koping with Kids Kourier". By doing this, they try to not aily keep parents informed of activities gaing on in the Crea�ive Play Ceneer, Uut also to tell abnu*_ special activi.ties sponsored hy the Paxks & Reereat=on Department, nutritional ideas, and fun ideas. Eesides the "Kourier", t.hey publictze through the Fr.idley Sun, communit} bul.letin board, and try to get the word out to preschool parents. Ms. Sharpe stated that a11 activities for this year are housed in the Community Bducation building, and they have a former kindergarten room for their Creative Play Center. Ms. Sharpe gave a slide presentation of the Creative Play Center. Ms. Stillson stated they have tried to adapt the program to fit the community of Fridley. When they started out, it came from the inspiration from parents for the support groups and getting the children together and parents together to reinforce one another. Last spring, they asked the parents to fill out an evaluation form, and they used those comments in planning their program for this year. They have added equipment and have added new books to the children's library. They are going to try to expand in the area of field trips. A lot of parents requested that tlze Center be open one afternoon a week, and Yhey would lilce to try that to see what response they would get. The response for the mnrnings has 6een good. They have been open one month and have 70 family memberships, They would also like to try being open on Saturday mornings to make it possible for more fathers and worlcing mothers to be able to come with their child. HITMhN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 1 1979 - PAGE 3 Ms. Stillson stated that this year, they were funded through Co�unity Education, as well as through a grant from Anoka CounLy Day Care Association. The Anoka County Day Care Association grant would run out the end of December 1479. They did not £eel they could apply for any more funding through the Anoka County Day Care Association, because those funds are for setting up programs, and they feel their program is established and running well. Stie stated they have gone to civic organizations and many businesses in Sridley for support. The civic organizations have been generous, but that is not enough to maintain the entire program, so they are coming to the City for help. They are trying Co keep Che program as a service to the Fridley area. They are not a day care, and she felt their numbers speak for Chemselves. ' With declining enrollment, they feel it is very importanC that children have a place to get tagether and where the mothers can get together to discuss problems and visit. Ms. Sharpe gave Che Commission members copies of a budget proposal which was to be presented to the Human Respurces Commission £or the Co�nission's consider- ation. She stated that in the past month, they have had an average of 87-100 children come to the Center. Ms. Shaxpe stated they work very closely with the DisCrict 14 staft. Many times when a parent feels a child has a problem, they can send the child to the pre- school nurse, school psychologist, or to the speech therapist. They feel that the fact that they can refer people and the fact that people are being referred to the Center through the Anoka County Day Care Association is very important. Many of the Aneka County Day Care Association`s licersin.g workers are suggesting that families us� the Center as an outleC. . t4s. Stillson stated they do charge a$10 fee for family memberships. They try to keep the fee low so they don't exclude any family and sti11 be a service to the community. Mr. Fleming suggested that £amily memberships be on a sliding scaie basis. Ms. Stillson seated that the sliding scale basis was disoussed. All of the sCaff who work with KKHIC are on a volunteer basis, and the only Cimes they are paid are the times when they acCually man the Center. If they were Co have a sliding scale, that would involve a lot of saneone's time which would require more volunteer time. Ms. Sharpe stated that KKKK's budget proposal for 1979-80 was $3,100. Th.ey had taken the opportunity to tour other centers similar to Cheirs, and similar centers were operating on a budget of $50-90,000 a year. She stated they are trying to utilize volunteers and school district professional people, rather than hiring people. The school district provides the raom, the utilities, the janitorial services, and help give a lot of direction as far as administration. Ms. van Dan asked if the KKKK �aas requestir� a certain dollar amounC from the City of Fridley. Ms. Sharpe stated that they were asking for $3,100. � HUMAN R�SOURCHS COPTMiSSION MEETING NOVEMAER 1 1979 - PAGF, 4 Ms. Stillson stated they were finding that the civic organizations wanted to donate money for equipment, etc,, rather Chan for salaries. . The Commissioners thanked the representatives from ICIIXK for their presentation. Mr. Saunders stated KIQtK was a good concept, but he did not know if it was something thae the City should feel obligated to'fund. He suggested that the Commission recommend the City fund $1,500, if KKKK could find matching funds elsewhere. :`�i 2. OTElER BUSINESS: TO RECOMMEND TO A !L�'�f'.� A. Report by Wayne Saunders on Communitq Educatfon Advisory Council: Tir. Saunders stated that he had attended one meeting of the Co�unity Education Advisory Council. He stated he was assigned'to the Community Events Committee to provide assistance to special events in the community such as Fridley Ethnic Day and the 49`er Days ce2ebration. Mr, Saunders etated the Council came up with its goals axzd objectives for the coming year and he would be getT.ing a copy of them. $e staL-ed the Council was a fascinating and interestiag group. ADJOURNMEI�T : MOTION by Ms. van Dan, seconded Uy Mr. Saunders, to adjourn the meeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Treuenfels declared.the November 1, 1979, Human Resources Cnmmission meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully su mitted, � ' C�YJ-L�.� Ly g' Saba Recording Secretary ti HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING NOVEMBER 8, 1979 CALL TO OADER• Vice-Chairperson Russell Houck called the November 8, 1979, Housing and Redevelopment Authority meeting to order at 7:45 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Russell Houck, Carolyn Svendsen, Elmars Prieditis Members Absent: Larry Commers Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 11, 1979, HOUSING & REDEV�LOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: MOTION by Mr. Prieditis, seconded by Ms. Svendsen, to approve the October 11, 1979, Housing & Redevelopment AuChority minutes as written. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Houck declared the motion carried unanimously. 1. RECEIVE R�SOLUTION OF THE HOUSING & REDEVF.LOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE�CITY OF FRIDLL'Y T� ESTABLTSH ACCOUNTING PROCEDURES FOR THE OYERATION OF THE Mr. Boardman stated that this document sets up the procedures for cneck writing and gives the Housing & Redevelopment Authority (HRA) the procedure they have to follow in order to disburse money frmn the tax increment district to project and project development. As laid out, this is almost the same accounting procedure followed with the City Council. Mr. Boardman stated that �61 states: "All disbursemenYs shall be made only upon the order of the Director or Executive Director of the Authority, duly authorized by a resolution or motion of the Authority..." Mr. Boardman stated that once a month, they will bring a list of requests for payment and ask the Authority to approve that list of payments. It laid out the format for that disbursement of monies. Mr. Boardman stated that �k2 states: "The Authority sha11 provide for the regular payment without specific individualized authori�ation by the AuChority of salaries and wages..." Mr. Boardman stated that any salaries and wages that come out of the Authotity budget will be done automatically, and every month the AuthoriCy will be billed for those wages by the City. That will be an authorized bill to be paid. The Authority will also have a budget that lays out a breakdown of program expenses and what kind of revenue and costs in 1980. HOUSING ANA REDEVELOPMENT AUTIiORITY MEETING NOVEMBER 8 19�9 - PAGE 2 Mr. Boardman stated that �3 states: "Any expenses incurred by the City on behalf of the Authority by agreement with the AuChority shall be directed to the Authority in a monthly statement..." Mr. Boardman stated these were basically the three steps they would be following in disbuxsement procedures. BY MA. PRIEDITIS. TO �PROVE T� THE HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT THE Ni_?R�i[�L� 2. PROPOSED BUDGET: 11 Mr. Boardman stated that, at this time, there were three project funds they were looking at: Project Fund No. 1 which is the Center CiYy Tax Increment District, the Tax Increment Fund which is a separate fund for taxes coming into the District, and the Large Family Home Ownership Fund. Mr. Boardman stated that the first sheet was a Revenue Summary Sheet for 1980. They had left Bond Sa1es out at this time, because they are not sure i£ they are going to get involved in any bond sales in 1980. If for any reason they do get involved in bond sales, the Authority will then review the bond sumueries and approve those bond sales. Mr, Boardman stated that under Project Fund No. 1 under Revenue Summary, they have Transfers from the Tax Increment Fund of $66,462. Thae is their anticipated revenue to cover administrative costs in 1980. Under Project Fund No. 1, there is a Loan from the CiCy that is 1979 monies. So, for 1979, they anticipate their staff time and any consultant fees and legal fees to run around $33,330. At this time, they do not have any monies in their Tax Increment Fund, because they won't get paid any taxes until 1980. So, the HRA is taking a loan from the City of $33,33� to pay for anticipated 1979 costs. When a bond sale goes into effect, the HRA, with bond s:iles for the Tax Increment District, will include ehis fee for that bond sale and pay the City back. Or, they would recover that depending on an increased cost o£ the tax increment if no bond sales take place. Mr. Boardman stated that in the Large Family Home Ownership program,they anticipate a staff cost in 1979 of $2,172. In 1980, they anticipate a revenue of $117,828. . ' . The City made $12,000 on the Section 8 program. That surplus of $12,000 has to be spent on another housing program in the City. So,�at this point in time, they have asked the City to transfer those funds from the Section S program to the Large Family Home Ocmership program to cover administrative costs or any other expenses. Wieh the Large Family Home Ownership program, they anticipate a land.sale of around $28,000, so the subtotal is $153,828. The total revenue anticipated in 1979 is $36,859, of which $33,330 is a loan from the City. In 1980, they anticipate a total program cost of $291,862. /� .� HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING NOVEMBER 8 1979 - PAGE 3 Mr. Boardman stated the second sheet was an Expense Su�ary breakdown. In. 1980their anticipated expenses under Project Fund No. 1 are $62,596. Their 1979 expense is what they are going to be borrowing from the CiCy. Total contingency cost is $3,866. Subtotal cost under that program is going to be $66,462. They are transferring Tax Increment Funds out of this fund and into ProjecC Fund No. 1. The Large Family Home Ownership project fund shows a total cost of $141,081 in 1980. They are looking at a$12,747 contingency which they need because it may be more expensive to do certain things such as relocation costs. The Expense Su�ary sheet is balanced with the Revenue Suum�ary, which shows they are not overspending their program. Mr. Boardman stated that the next three pages of the budget are a breakdown of the actual Program Group Detail of those expenses. f:3'i'�7 VICE CHAIRPERSON HOUCK DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 3. REVIEW OF APPRAISAL FOR LARGE FAMILY HOME OWATERHSbaIP PROGRAM: Mr. Boardman stated they had contracted with Curtis Larson, an Appraiser, to do an appraisal on the two properties the City was looking at purchasing. Mr. Larson has done the appraisal, and they have sent this appraisal to a review appraiser. Those forms should be coming.back fram the review appraiser on Tuesday of the following week. At that point in time, they can send a letCer to the property owners of the City's offer to purchase. Before 'doing that, Mr. Boardman stated he would be sitting dowci with the HUD people and the City Attorney to make sure everything was being done right. Mr. Prieditis asked what would happen if the property owners did not want to sell their properties. Mr. Boardman stated that if the property owners did not accept the City's offer, they would go into negotiation, If the property owners did not accept the negotiated offer, the City wi11 send a letter that says the City is not interesCed in purchasing the property. The City will not go into condemnation, because there is no reason to do that. Mr. Boardman stated they have had discussions wiCh these people, and it looks like the people will be willing to sell their properties. Ms. Svendsen asked about the relocation system. .,. Mr. Boardman stated that everybody is eligible for moving paymenCs, either homeowners or tenants. They are allowed either a fixed payment of $300 plus a displaced payment of $200, no questions asked; or they are allowed actual payment costs. There is no ceiling on actual payment costs. The replacement housing payment has a$15,000 limit. A homeowner is eligible for this cost � if they are occupied more than 180 days. They musC move within one year, and they have nn additional 18 months tb make a claim for $15,000. If people who rent, there is anoCher program, and they don't Set the $15,000. For a home- owner who has been occupied for y0-180 days, there is down-payvien[ assistance. HOUSING AND RLDEVEL�PMENT AUTHORZTY MEETING NOVEMBER 8 1979 - PAGE 4 Mr. Boardman stated for people who rent, they have two choices. He can either take rent times 48 up to $4,000 in addition to the $500 moving cost; or, if a tenant wants to buy a house, there is a program where the City will write him a check for $2,000 and another check matching dollar for dollar the amount of money the tenant wants to make as a downpayment up to a total cost of $4,000. So, „ in effect, he would have $6,000 for a downpayment. Mr. Boardman stated that in relocation, the City has to find comparable housing that can't be substandard, it has to meet either local codes or Section 8 housing codes, has to be affordable, and has to be minimum housing. Mr. Boardman stated that of the two properties the City hoped to purchase, only one would involve relocation costs. nnsouxNr�rrr • MOTION by Ms. Svendsen, seconded by Mt. Prieditis, to adjourn the meeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Houck declared the - November 8, 1979, Housing and RedeveLopment Authority meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully su mitted, > . r�tt, ✓ . L Saba ' Recording Secretary .. _ . _ CALL TO ORDER• COMMUNITY DEVELOPPfENT COT�AffSSION MEETING NOVEMBER 13, 1979 Chafrpe�son LeRoy Oquist called the Novemher 13, 1979, Cam�unity ➢evelopment Coamission meeting to order at 7:43 p.m. 1tOLL GAi.L • 1$emhers Present: LeRoy Oquist, Connie Modig, A1 Gabal, Kenneth Vos, Sharon Gustafson ldember�'Absent� Othars Present: I3one Bi11 Deblon, Associate Planner ' AP�'ROVAf. QF OCTOBER 9 1979, COMMtA3ITY DEVELOPMENT CON1t4I.SSION MINtTTES: }�S3"I�!I by Ms. Modig, seconded by Mr. Gabel, to approve the October 9, 1979, Cpamp�n;LCy Development Commission minuCes as written. Upon a voice vote, a�1 voCing aye, Chairperson Oquist declared the motion carried unanimously. 1. �,,�'IN{TED• DISCUSSION ON POLICY FOR CONVERSZON OF RENTAI. PROPERTY TO OWNERSHIP PROPERTY: MY. Oqutst stated he did not lmow exactly what direction the Commission should take with this. This originally had come down from the Gity Conncil through the Planning Co�ission, and he wondered what the City Coancil wanted. He asked Mr. Deblon if the Commission was supposed to reco�end that a city ordinance be established? klr. Deblon stated that, yes, he thought the City Council was looking for an qxdinance to regulate condo conversions. He stated the City of Minneapolis ltad just passed an ordinance relating to Rousing--"The purpose of this ordinance is-t:o regulate the conversion of resident3al rental units to condominiums and ta afford certain rights as to possession and purchase and create certain expresa and implied warranties." Mr. Deblon stated that most of the original "clout° had been removed from this ordinance. ' ii�. Vos referred to the August.l4, 1979, Community Development Cou�ission mfnu:tes where the Covmmission first discussed it. The minutes indicated that after s request by Mr. Alvia Nitschke to convert a tri-plex into a three-unit townhouse development, which the Planning Commission approved with stipulations, _- the City Gouncil tabled this request and sent it back to PLanning Comnission for further discussion and Co come'up with a policy because of more possible aituations like Mr. Nitschke's. The Planning Commission had then passed it on to the Community Development Commission. � _ . _ _. _ _ __ ,-+� . COt�&fUNlTSt DEVELOPMENT C8N3�ff^,SSZUN I�ETING, NCIVEMBER 13, 1979 - PAGE 2 Ms.'Gustafson stated she had an unconfirmed report that the City of Little Ganada had 3,000 conversions last year. Mr. Deb2on stated that right now the City Council was looking at aa ordinance to keep ownership to one cn�ner,'so if there is condo-conversion, an aseociatioa would be required. Mr. Vos stated that the Caaanission's ta'sk was really to recommend that Staff work on an ordinance related to condominiums.`?. Ms. Modig stated that one thing she would like to be sure of is Chat the person in the house or apartmeat is,protected as fully'as poasible, Mr. Oquist stated that if the C�mmission did aecommend that Staff come up with a draft ordinance, they should give Staff some direetion an what they would like to see included in t�at ordinance. He stated h2 felt there was no way they could stop condo-conversions from happening, but there needed ta be an ordinance to coatrol it somehow. 1. Protection f a. 120 day/ b. Right to c. Option t notifica 2. Riehts of ou , — �_ U on a r intent to convert rentai lease at a ert urrent rental occu ion . em of inteat xo co on time after the- . 2. UPDATE ON Ai101CA COUNTY AIRPORT; Mr, Deblon stated ite had attended a meeting regarding the Anoka County hirport at the Northtown Shopping Center on October 17i The meeting Was conducted by-TRA Airport Conaultants, the consultant hired by the Metropolitan Airports Co¢m�issfon (MAC). _.. .. _ ._. _ _ _. _ .�.. _... ..__.. _ _. _ .. . ^r�1 GOMi*it1NTTY DEVELOBMGNT COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 13 1979 PAGE 3 Mr. Debl:on stated that the Commission members had a copy of the "Anoka County Airport Master PLan Newsletter", which was the first in a seriea of newsletters contaiaing information on the progress of the Anoka County Airport Master Plan. Thie newsletter was prepared by the consultant. Mr: Deblon stated the news- letter basically explained what MAC was looking ar_ doing to the Anoka County Aisport. There was also some past history of what had been go�.ng on, the mfsconceptions, rumors, etc. Mr. Deblon stated that International Airport wants to get rid of all their business jets. The airport is overcrowded and they are also trying to reduce some of the noise. They are looking for a place.to put the business jets, sud Anoka County Airport is one of the airports that has been chosen. Mr. Deblon stated that one gentleman at the meeting stated he has been landing his basiness jet at Anoka County Airport for some time, but that Che airport is not safe. The upgrading will make it a safer airport. Mr. Oqutst stated that at one time, he had heard that the National Guard would be leaving #iolman Field and moving to Anoka County. Was this atill true? Mr. Deblon stated that the consultant stated there were no plans for the National Guard to move to Anoka County. Ms. Modig referred to the April 11, 1978, Community Development Commission minutes which stated: "Anoka County really did not have to be reclassified as intermediate because it was already classified as a utility airport. So, they could really expand without a lot of reclassification...They were talking about expanding to a DC-3 type of aircraft, but they could land jets out there. They were talking about 9,000 ft. runways north and south and 4-5,000 east/ west runways. It was primarily to get the load out of International by putting the transport traf£ic into Anoka County.° Mr.'Oquist stated he thought the coum�unities that were affected, Coon Rapids, Blaine, Moundsview, and Fridley, should have a committee or task force from their planning departments to really watch this thing so ttiey would know where it is going. Mr.'Deblon sCated he would be following the progress of the airport anc� would be attending any future meetings. He would keep the Cammission informed. Ms. Modig stated.she would like Mr. Deblon to check with the other communities involved to see what stand they were taking with the airport. 3. RECEIVE MEMORANDUMS FROM VIRGIL HERRICK DATED AUGUST 2 1979 AND � ..e .............. . � , ..-... _ MOTION,by Mr: Gabel, seconded by Mr. Vos, to receive two memorandums from Virgi:l Herrick dated August 2, 1979, and September 17, 1979. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Oquist declared the motlon carried unanimously. � ._ __ _._ ,.. .. .,.., _ _ _. _ . . d_ CO2+AIUNITY DEVELOPMENT-00�4IiSSION MEETING NOVEMBER 13 1979 - PAGE 4 Mr. Deblon atated these me.mos were concerning epecial use permits, variances, and zoning changes and wege for the Commission's information. 4. UPDATE ON BIKE-WALKWAY DEVELOPMENT IN CITY: Mr. Deblon stated that at this time there was nothing new with the Bikeway/ Walkway development, but staff was looking at some designs to be prepared in the near futare. ADJOURNMEPIT • MOTION by Ms. Modig, seconded by Ms, Guetafson, to adjourn the meeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, ,Chairperson Oquist declared the November 13, 1979, Community Development Co�ission meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Ly�aba � Recording Secretary , . _. �. _.. _..___ _____ � _ _._..... . ._....... . _: ��' �1 AEPEALS COMMISSION MEETING ATOVEMBER 13 1979 PAGE 2 ........ B. STATF.D NARDSftIP: . . 7b change the Texaco sign to Sinclair would be changing the actual sign only and using the same poles. It would be a waste of time and money not to use the same structure. C. ADIdINISTRATIVE STAFF RF.VIEW: We recommend that the Appeals Commission give serious Lhouqht to either denial of this request or if approval is recommended, t}i� the allowable size of these types of signs should be reconsidered. We do not feel that financi.al costs snould be a consideration for acariance to ihe size of a sign. -. � Mr. Moravetz said staff had no further comments. Mr: Peugh, representing Signcrafter, Inc., came forward. 1Ie explained the sign w w ld be 5 feet x 32 feet and placed on the existing poles, All other signs such as, 'Fae give full service" and "Firestone" would be removed. He said the larger sign would be needed to attract customer� to the gas station. There was no direct exit from University Auenue to the station and customers have to use the service road. Mr. Plemel asked if there would be any signs on the building. Mr. Peugh said no. Sinclair was trying to clean up the looks of the building. Ma. Gabel qaestioned if there would be a price sign and'it's size. Mr. Peugh replied yes and the aize would be no larger than 5 feet x 5 feet. It was asked if any other size sign could be used. Mr. Peugh said the next sizes are 6 feet x 10 feet or 5 feet x 7 feet. These signs have been pre-fabricated and if they could not use the size requested a new one would have to be made. , MOTTON by Mr. Plemel, secondad by Mr. Barna to receive the letter from Mr. Harvey Ei1er, 3316-42nd Avenue So., Mpls., stating he was in favor of the sign. . UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AY�� VICE-CHAIRPSRSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. It was decided Mr, Eiler must have property in the area. Mr. Barna stated if the next size sign was used the present poles could not be used. He elso questioned if the proposed si�n was the.same used on a freeway. Mr. Peugh said it was the size tiiey use on a busy road, He also stated it would be an added expense to remove and xeplace the �xisting.poles. Sinclair would like to use what tl�ey purchased APPEALS:CdhAfISSION MEETING, NOVFF�ffiBEIt_13, 1979 __ PAGE 3 MOTZON by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Plemel to close t�e public hearing. UPON A VOICS VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOU3LY. PUBLLC HEARING CLOSED AT 7:50 P.M. Ma. Gabel said the aign ordinance was just re-written and the citizens had decided the largest sign area they wanted was 80 square feet. This sign was twice that amount. Mr. Pleme�l felt there were too many aigns on University Avenue in this area already and doubling the allowed sign size was flagrant of the citizen's desires. He also stated the apeed limit was only 45 mplx, the station wac ].ocated on the corner, therefore the size should not make that much dif£erence in attracting clients. MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded Uy Mr. Barna to xeaommend to City Council denial of Variance Request to increase the square footage oE a free standing sign from the . . maxi�m of 80 square feet to 160 square feet, located at 6071 University Avenue NE., because of the following reasons: 1. The size requested was twice the amount allowed by the sign ordinance. 2. Going against the ordinance would be a flagrant disregard of what the citizens desixed for the co�unity. � 3. Monetary costs should not be consi3ered a hardship. UPON:A VOICE VOTE, TiLL VOTING AYE� VICE-CiIAZBPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSZY'. Ms. Gabel stated this will go before the City Council at their December 17, 1979 meeting. 2 MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Plemel to open the public hearing. UPaN A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMWSLY. PUBLIC HEARSNG OPENED AT 7:55 P.M. Vice-chairperson Gabel sead the staff report: ADMINISTTd1TIV� STAFF REPORT 6f340 Sievert's Lane N.S. A. PUSLIC PURFOSE�SERVED BY REQOIREC�NT: . Minnesota Flealth Ik:partment Well Code, Chapter 217, Cl, Ef, requires that private wells less than 50 feet deep and not penetrating 10 feet of clay must be 100 feet away from a private sewer system. APPEALS COMNtISSION MEETING NOVEI�ER 13 1979 PAGE 4 - Public purpose served by this requirement is so the sewage disposal system will function in a sanitary manner and will not create a nuisance nor endanger the safety of any domestic water supply. 8. STATEII tiARDSHIP: This is the only location for the septic system on the lot according to the soil engineers report. C. ADMIIdISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW: Please refer to an attached letter from the Anoka County Comprehensive Health Department. The stipulations in this letter should be part of the approval of this request if approved. Also we feel that the well should be tested before the private sewer systea is installed and each year thereafter. It should be noted that the City Council is holding a public hearing on ` tlovember 19, 1979 for the purpose of determining if City water and sewar will be extended to serve this lot. If approved, the owner will not need this variance. MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Plemel, to receive the letter from the Comprehen- sive Health Department, County of Anoka, stating approval of the installation of the private sewer system. See attachment �kl UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TfiE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUST.Y. MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mr. Barna, to receive the letter from the Siverts, stating installation of the private sewer system would be agreeable with them. See attachment �k2 UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Burton Smith, the petitioner, came forward. Mr. Smith stated he would prefer city sewer and water but the utilitiea were'not available to his lot yet. He was told when he applied fox the private sewer system that the city and county would agree with whatever Rice Creek Watershed came up with. After a year and considerable expense, he did get Rice Creek Watershed approval. A system was de- signed, but then he was told he would have to also have the county's approval before the city would agree. He felt it was a round about way for the city to get him to sign up for sewer and water. He was then told he nseded to at least apply for sewer and water before he could get his building permit. He did this and Cwo weeks ago he did get his permit and started construction. APPEALS COI�LLSSION ME�TING NOVF�IBER 13 1979 PAGE 5 Ms. Qabel,questioned why he was herc i£ .ie had � rcquest in for city sewer and water. Surely the city would prefer him to have it. , Mr. B�rna pointed out, even if approval for the servicea was given, it could be 3 or 4 yeara before it was installed. The variance woul� allow him ntilities until that time. Ms. Gabel said the city platted the area his lot was in and therefore this lot was suppose to be buildable. I� the city was not going to put sewer and water in, they would have to allow this variance. She asked if the other property owner's were aware of assessment chargea for the service. Mr. Moravetz said yes. There are 2 lots that could be split and they will also have to be stubbed in with the services. Mr. Smith pointed ouE that Darrel Clark said those 2 property could hold off the assess- ment until the 2 lots were split. He also stated the other 2 property owners desired to have the services extended to their properties. Ms. Gabel asked Mr. Smith:if the 2 stipulations on the Anoka County letter would be aggreable with him. Mr, Smith replied yes. Mr. Bama asked why Mr. Smith did not apply sooner for city sewer and water. He said the previous ownar had told him the costs ar.d required lift station SJDUld prohibit development of the services. Mr. Moravetz pointed out that owner had gicen hi� some erroneous information and that was too bad for Mr. Smith because of the unnecessary expenses incurred. Mr. Barna pointed out the staff stipulated testing of the sewer system each year and wanted to know who did the testing and who paid the costs. Mr. PSoravetz said testing would probably be done by either Anoka County or Fridley's Environmental Officer. If there were any. costs, the awner would be required to pay, since itr was for his safety and benefit. The Appeals Co�ission felt hecause at present Mr. Smith had no alternative but a private sewer system and Rice Creek Watershed, Anoka County Comprehensive Health and the city had no objections, the variance should be granted. MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Plemel to close the Qublic hearing, UPON.A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLAR�D THE MOTION CARRIED UPiANIMOUSLY. PUBLIC FIEARING CLOSED AT 8:24 P.M. MOTION by Mr. Baina, seconded by Mr. Plemel to recommend to City Council approval of Varianae Request to allow :he installation of a private sewer system 65 feet from a shallow well, instead of the xequired 100 feet, on 6$40 Sivert's Lane NE., with the following stipulations: 1. The well be tested before [he private sewer system was installed and each year after. APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING NOVII�BER 13 1979 PAGE 6 2. The uae of the shallow well service the Sivert reaidence be limited to an owner occupied single family residence. 3. That the nature of the variance and tkie conditions of the variance be recorded .' 'to title of both properties. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TfiE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, Ms. Gabel informed Mr. Smith he had a year to uae this variance if it was needed. At the end of a year, he could return for a re-newal of the variance. 3. at 18th Avenue South, Hopkins, Mn, 55343). MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mr. Barna to open the public hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TIiII MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. PUBLIC HF..ARING OPENED AT 8:28 P,M. Vice-�hairperson Gabel read the staff report: ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT 5329 - Sth Str.eet N.E. A. PUBLZC PURPOSE SERVED BY R�QUIREMENT:_ Section Section 205.054, 2, requires a minimum of 1,020 square feet of finished floor area per dwelling unit. Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide for adequate house size and living area in residential buildings. 8, STATED FIARDSHIP: 'lhe owner is about to retire and requires no larger house {24' x 36'). The lower level is a walkout to the street which will be his main entrance. The lower level is 36' wide by 24' deep and wi21 be heated and have full living space. Other houses in the area are about the same size with�sane being smaller. C. ADMINISTFATIVE STAFF REVIEW: This lot psesently has a gartially destroyed house on it. It had a fir.e some weel:s ago and is substandard in alr.;ost every way. The ocaner has chosen to remove this existing house and build a nEw one. It will improve the neighborhood and will be comparable i.n size to the surrounding homes. The staff has no stipulations to recommeud if the request is approved. APPEALS CGIMMISSION MEF.TING N�FS�ER 13 1979 PAGE 7 Mr. Walt Galay, the petitoner, and hir. I3ud Skog?:si:;:, Wausau Homes repreaentative, were present for the request. Mr, Skoglund described the proposed home. Be said the home would be 24 feet x 36 feet, with a wallcout facin$ the street. Each level has an independent heating system, so Mr. Galay would only have to heat what was needed. There will be 2 bedrooms on tFe main level with the potential of 2 more on the secondary level. The outside of tne home will be finished with lap siding and the futuxe garage would allow entrance from either SCh Street or the a11ey. The se2ling price was $40,000 and that meant complete cn the lot and finished inside. Mr. Galay would only have to add his personal belongings. Ms. Gabel said the size and style would fit into tha area, and what was,pzesently on the lot was an eyesore. Mr. Barna pointed out wiCh the potential of 2 more bedrocros, resale would be good. It was noted Chere was a new garage located on the back portion of the lot. Ms. Gabel asked if Mr. Galay had talked to his neighbors. Mr. Galay answered yes and knew of no objections. Mrs. Pat Ramsey, 5336-bth Street and Mrs. Norma Goings, 5372-6th Street, both live in back of Mr, Galay and were present at the meeting. They both expressed approval for the new home. MOTION by Mr, Plemel, seconded by Mr. Barna to close the public hearing. llPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, ��ICE-CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:43 P.M. MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mr. Barna to reco�end to City Council approval of Variance Request to reduce the minimum gross floor area of a single family dc�eiling from the xequired 1,020 square feet to 864 square fee�, to allow the constructian uf a new dwelling, located at 5359-Sth Street NE. UPOfl A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-Ci3AIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 4. OTHER BUSINESS: Ms. Gabel asked Mr, Moravetz if anything had been decided about the proliem of wording on "Stated Hardships". Mr. Moravetz said not that he was aware of. , Ms. Gabel thought before next spring when the Appeals Commission will be geeting many variance requests, this pzoblem should be solved. The hardship should be stated properl� on the application for reference. (Refer to discussion under "Other Business", October 9, 1979) APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING NO�VEMBER 13 1979 PAGE 8 ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Plemel to adjourn the November 13, 1979, meeting of the Appeals Commission. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AY$, VICE-CllAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MEETING ADJOUI2NED AT 8:53 P.M. Respectfully submitted, ,�� . Paula Long, ecord'}jfg Secretary .,�..:,. �.�:L� � �'.ss1�r.::;:, . �,t.q'„�'� . . `{<-•�.,� ATTACHMENT � 1 COUNTY �F ANOKA Comprehensine Henith Department GQUR7HOUSE ANOKA, MINNESOTA 55303 612•421-4760 HUMHNRESOURCESOFFICE � PUBLICHEALTHNURSINGSERVICE SENIORTRANSPORTATIONSERVICE ' DAYTIMEACTIVITYGENTER ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH . - 6633 ARTHUR ST. N.E. � FRIDLEY, MINN.55432 November 7, 1979 � � � 575-0790 City of Fridley c/o Darrel Clark � City Hall 6431 University Ave. N.E. Fridley, Minn. 55432 Deas Mr. Clark: Reference is made to our earlier t.elephone discussion concerning the ap- plication of surton Smith for a variance from the 100 foot on-siCe sewer system setback from a shallow wel1. The purpose of the increased separation (100 foot separation}. between an on-site sewer system and a shallow well is to insure adequate soil treat- ment and dilution before any constituents of an on-site waste discharge might reach a shallow well water supply. In the case of the Burton Smith installation, it appears from information available, that the probable ground water flow is from the area of the Sievert residence southward past the Smith property, with discharge to the Rice Creek Valley. This would mean that the qround water flow in tfie vicinity of this Smith on- site sewer installation would not be towards the'Sievert well but rather away from the well towards the point of surface discharge. For Y,his rea- son, the increased 100 foot separatian may not be necessary. Should the City consider approving this variance request, but still would like to provide some assurance to future owners to tfiese properties of continued safety of the water supply, you may want to consider the follow- ing conditions o£ variance: 1) The use o� the shallow well serving Y]�e Sievert residence be lim- ited to an owner occupied single family residence. 2j That the nature of the variance and the conditions of the variance be recorded to title of both properties. If 2 may be of any service to you, please feel free to ca11 me. RMH:pkp Enclosures Yours very trul - . "/' c.�""� 1 Robert M. ilutchison Director, Environmental Services Affirmative Action 1 Equal Opportunity Empioyer ATTACHIdENT #2 . OCTOBEx 27, 1979 , WE AGREE TO PERMIT MR. BURTON SMTTH TO LOCATE HI3 CEPTTC 3YSTEM . NO'P LES3 THAN 65 F�i' I�`ROM OZ3R EXZSTING WATER SJ�LL. ing iverts �'�,��u/v`'l �tS�� r-� �� . - . . . . . . . ��, greta siverts �?�� , . .,.�;.�, 1 CITY OF FRIDLSY CALL TO ORDER Chairman Harris called the Planning Commission meeting of November 28, 1979, to order at 7:36 P.M. $OLL CALL Members Present: Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes, Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenfels, Mr. Hora, Ms. Schnabel (arrived at 7:47 P.M.) Members Absent: Others Present: None Jerry Boardman, City Planner Bill Deblon, Associate City Planner APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MiNUTBS: NOVEM$ER 7. 1379: MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to approve the Planning Cormuission minutes of Navember 7, 1979 as corrected. Ms. Hughes asked for the following clarifications to the minutes: Page 9, 3rd paragraph, last aentenee to read; She felt the dollar amounts alloted for the total requests should be increased, for example to $20,000 each, plus increase the amount of the contingency fund to help fund the critical area requests, at a proper and acceptable level, such as SACA. Page 11, last sentence; All SACA pays was $40 a.. Page 12, first complete sentence, first paragraph; Saca serves more Fridley residents then Columbia Heights and Fridley should help in the funding. Mr. Oquist asked to have the Sth paragraph from the bottom, page 3, omitted from the record. UPON A VOICE VOTS, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN FIARRIS DECLARED THE MOTTON CARRIED UNANIM�USLY. 1, CARL50N: Per Fridl of a 26' x 25-1/2' cated on Lots 5, 6, Cheryl Street N.E. ey City Code, Section 205.157, D, to allow the construction addition to an existing house in CRP-2 (flood plain), lo- and 7, Block W, Riverview Heighta, the same being 615 Mr. Boardman said this addition was in the flood plain area and the proposal was for living area above the garage. A garage was conaidered an accessory building. He checked with tha state to see if the flood plain affects accessory buildings. The atate replied because there was no living area in an accessory building and the damage done on accessory buildings was limited, they are exempt from setback and fill requirements that are normally imposed in the flood plain district. However, a special use permit will be required becauae they are building in the flood plmi.n. He said after ataff reviewal, they felt flood plain criteria was being met and the application should be approved. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVEI�ER 28 1979 PAGE 2 Mr. Harris asked if electrical or water services needed special consideration because of the CRP-2 zoning. Mr. Boardman replied because this was an accessory building and exempt in the flood plain, therefore no apecial regulations were required. He said the addition was on an existing home and would have to comply with the total flood plain disxtict. Mr. Richard Carlson, 615 Cheryl Street NE, was present for the request. He said all the electrical outlets would be located approximately 2 feet above the flood plain high water level, Mr. Carlson pointed out there will be a 55 gallon drum located in the garage floor for any water xunoff, such as snow melting. Mr. Harris asked to have the 2 foot Level for electrical outlets stipulated in the motion if approved. Ms. Hughes questioned what the addition would be used for and if there would be bathroom facilities. Mr. Carlson replied there will be 2 bedrooms, a small recreation room and a bath. The bathroom facilities will be located on the plum wall of the e�cisting structure so no new water lines will have to be installed. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Boardman why he checked with the state on this application. Mr. Boardman replied he checked because of the way our cpde read, .., structures for habitation constructed on fill shall be constructed so that the basement floor ox first floor, if there is no basement, is abwe the regulation flood level ... The queation came up, was a garage with structure above for habitation really a habitation structure or an accessory building. He asked the State what their intent was on acceasory buildings because the way the city code was written, staff could have taken it either way. The state said if the living area above an accessory use was out or above the potential area for damage, it should be considered an accessory use. MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to close the public hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARItIS DECLAR�D THE MOTION CARRISD UNANIMOUSLY. PUBLIC HEt1RING CLOSBD AT 7:53 P.M. MOTION,_ by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Hora to reconmend to City Council approval of Special Use Permit �k79-12 by Richard N, Caxlson, with the following stipulation: 1. Electrical services be 2 feet above the flood plain level (100 year flood elevation). UPON A VOICE VOTS, ALL VOTING AYS, CHAIRMAN HARI2IS DECI,ARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, - 2.. LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L.S. 9k79-08, BY G.W. PASCHILE: Split off the East 1 foot of Lot 10, Block 1, Paco Indastrial Park (7150 Co�erce Circle West) and add_it to Lot 9, Block 1, Paco Industrial Park (200 Co�erce Circle South) because of building encroachment. Mr. Boardman said this was a surveyor error, The 2 lots are owned by Mr. Paschke and the building was located on Lot 9 with a 1 foot encroachment on Lot 10. PLANNING COP@ffSSION MEBTING. NOVEI�ffiER 28, 1979 PAGE 3 Mr. Boardman explained that Mr. Paschke would lfke to get the building placement squared up with the lot Lines for future possible ownership by 2 parties. The city has no problems with this lot split request. Mr. Boardman also stated there was a 20 foot error on the south lot line. Mr. Paschke, Suburban Engineering and the city were trying to work out a solutian for that problem. Mr. Paschke thought he bought more land then he really did and has already done some heavy landscaping in the area in question. It was belived that the drainage ditch was located on Paschke's land but was really on park property. MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Oquest to reco�end to City Council apprwal of L.S, #79-08, G.W. Paschke. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN IIARRIS DECLARED THE I�R3TION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 3. RECEIVE HUMAIV RESOURCES COP4fI5SI0N MINUTES; NOVE!ffiER 1, 1979 MOTION by Mr, Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Hughes to receive the Human Resources Cotmmission minutes of November 1, 1979. UPON A VOIC& VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CFIAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Ms. Hughes asked Mr. Treuenfels if his coumission had any sub-co�ittees, besides the Eine Ar�s of Fridley Committee. Mr. Treuenfels replied no and said he believed even the Fine Arts Committee had e7cpired. Ms. Hughea said she could see the IdCKK (Koping with Kids from Kradle to Kindergarten) pxogram becoming a city program and wondered where that program should be housed. Whether it was something to be handled under ktuman Resources or Parks and Recreation and her co�ission. Mr. Treuenfels said presently the KRKK was under Community Education and received housing, utilitiea and janitorial expenses from them. The Human Resources had apprwed a matching grant of up to $1500 £or KKKK, Mr. Boardman pointed out the Planning Co�nission had deleted any funds for KKKK at their last meeting and Hu�aan Resources were naa rec�ending a matching grant of $1500. Ma. Hughes asked if the $3100 asked for by RHIHaC was their total budget besides what they receive from Co�unity Education. Mr. Treuenfels eaid yes. Ms. Hughes commented that this looked like it would be a city program because of lack of school funding. She queationed if it was appropriete to be tunding completely snch an organization sinee there has been no proof of n�ed by the community. She did not apprwe of the school shifting the responsibility of funding and if it was funded by the city, which department will supervise it. She telt funding should be availabel at least for the Eirst year. Mr. Harria said he partially agreed with Ms. Hughes, fn that there could be some co�nity need for the program, but could not see it as a city program. One problem EiANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVSFIBER 28 1974 PAGE 4 he could see with the school district funding was because there was more than 1 school district involved and it would be unfair to run a city�caide program �aicn only 1 district funding it, He feYt there should be a coordinating body so that all the districts could participate in a city program. Mr. TreuenEels said the KKKK intent was not entirely a recreation program, but it was not wholly educational either. Mr. Boardman said the queation was not who should run or support the program, but was it a corpoxation similar to SACA or Sr. Citizen's Outreach that was requesting funds for operation. We have to decide if this was a Legitimate organization and if it was providing services to the City of Fridley's residents and therefore eligible for funding by the city. We should question, should the city be putting money into this organization not who will operate it. Mr. Treuenfels said he liked that approach. This organization was simi2ar to SACA because they both receive housing and outside funding and provide some socisl service to the residents. Ma, Hughes said she has to agree with that, however K1�Z was getting their major source of funding from the city. She also pointed out the recreation program does support groups that are not entirely recreation, but also educational and into the cu2ture areas. If KKKK was to be in the recreational�ea, do they have some type of review system similar to other programs that are under recreation funding (i:e. hackey). Mr. Harris said it seems KI�R was a social sexvice and do we have someone to handle social services and should the �iry be getting into that area. Mr. Boardman pointed out SACA was also a social service that was providing a needed service to Fridley residents and we fund them, These agencies have to have places to go in order to get their funding, and the city was one of the sources. We have to decide if we feel these services are valid and do we want to use ta�cpayer's money to help fund them. The city does have some responsibility to help prwide social servicea for the residents. Mr. Harris thought the KI�CK program should be under Human Resources. Ms. Hughes asked if there was staff personnel to supervise this program. Mr. Boardman replied a new person had been hired and she would be introduced later in the evening. He explained she would be handling this type of work. Mr. Harris felt Human Resources should be riding herd on the agencies. that receive funds from the city. Mr. Boardman stated not necessarily riding herd, but the Human Resource Commission will be setting the criteria when requests for funds come in. They will be able to decide who get the funds and how much they receive. Mr. Harris asked if it was in the relm of the city's responsibility to keep track of how the funds were spent within each tiscal year. He felt an annual report by the agencies should be brought in each year. PT,,ANNING COMMISSION MEBTING, NOVF.t�ER 28, 1979 PAGE 5 Mr. Boardman replied he agreed an annual report should be submitted, e7cpecially if they ask for funding each year. We may not agree with how the money was spent, but at least we would know what happened to it. Mr. Treuenfels said there were 2 points of consideration. One, do the agencies give an account for the money received each year? The general consensus was that they should, Second, if they come back for more funding, should we use their past records of spenditures to determine new funding? T[ie Co�ission said definetly that should be part of the criteria when deciding on the fund requests. Ms. Schnabel felt staff personnel should go to each agency to familiarize themselves with that agency. Mx. Boardman replied that would take a lot of time and he does not have the staff to do that. Ms. Schnabel said she would be very disappointed in Mr. Boardman and his staff if it was not at least reco�ended to staff to use sane sort of follow up on the agencies. Mr. Boardman said it was a good idea and would try to have his department follow up on the agenciea that receive funds. Ms. Aughes suggeated members from Human Resources and Planning Co�nission could also do some sort of follow up on the agencies, She questioned if KI�CK was supporting them- selves enough by charging only $10 per family per year ($700 yearly approximately for membership fees). Mr. Oquist said the one thing that bothered him about supporting I�ICK was that the $1500 would only Ue reaching 70 families, while the $1000 alloted to SACA would be reaching many, many moxe people. The percentage of people helped per dollar seemed very low for I�CIZ, Mr. Treuenfels said percentage of use was one of the criterias he suggested to be used by Human Resources. Ms. Schnabel asked if other agencies, such as churches, provided a similar program to KI�K, Mr. Treuenfels said there use to be one church in Fridley that had the same service. Mr. Harris said years ago many of our social services were handled by the churches. Idow, it seems, it was not one of the main concerns of the churches. He felt there should be a central co�ittee that would coordinate these types of services between Che churches, schools and city so theae was no overlap of services. Ms, Schnabel said some peoply may not want the church overtones i£ a social service was handled by the church alone. There£ore, a centxal coum�ittee may be needed to coordinate such services. Ms. Hughea said she felt the KKKK program, because it came out of community schooling, has not looked for other ways to fund themselvea. Other groups do and KKRR should 6e able to do the same. She liked the idea of KHIIIC raising matching funds in order to receive funds from the city. PLANNING CONAffSSION MEETJNG NOVEMB&R 28 1979 PAGE 6 MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to concur: wfth Human Reaourcea Co�isaion m reconm�end to City Council that the City fund up to $1500 to KI�, contingent upon IQC1� obtaining matching funds from another source. Ms. Schnabel said she was opposed to the motion for 2 reasons, One, the other agencies only received $1000 and felt K1� should not get 50% more in funds. 7.tuo, the lop percentage of families reached by KI�K as compared to other social services did not seem to warrant as much funding. MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded hy Mr. Hora to amend the orginal motion by Ms, Hughes to reduce the funds for IaCKK from $1500 to $1000. UPON A VOICS VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION C ARRISD UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Oquist pointed out Human Resouxces did not have a time limit on haw long HIC[QZ had to raise their $1500, He wanted a start and stop time stipulated on the motion. Ms. Schnabel said the Planning Conanission nn page 13 of their last meeting, stated the cutoff date would be July 1, 1980. Mr. Boaxdman said the time period should be for KKIaC's fiscal operating year or else when Council apprwes the funding, the time period wauld start then and end July 1, 1980. Mr. Harris asked if the membership fee was to be used towards the $1500 I�KR was re- quired to raise. Ae felt the matching funds should be e�cclusive of inembership fees. Mr. Hora queationed his reasoning. Mr. Oquist stated it would be to KKKK's advantage to raise the additional $1500 because it could give them a possible $3700 to work with and not just $3000. Ms. Hughes stated they are not treating KKKK's request any different by requir3ng matching funds then the requests by SACA or Sr. Citizen's Outreach. Those agencies had ahown they have other sources of funding available to them and have used them. MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to amend the original motion by Ms. Hughes to include a start time for IQZI� to raise matching funds to be in effect when Council apprwed the $1000 matching fund and to stop on July 1, 1980. The matching funds raised by I�QZ[L will be exclusinve of the membership fees. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANII+I�USLY , Mr. Harris asked for a vote on the original motion, which now includes a start and stop time, $1,000 matching funds and memberahip dues may not be used towards the matching funds raised by KHIZK. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DSCLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, 4. RECEIVE HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTNORITY MINUTSS: NOVEIIBffit 8 1979: p��TNG COPAffSSION MESTING NOVEMBER 28 1979 p�$ � MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to receive the Housing and Redevelop- ment Authority minutes of November 8, 1979. Mr. Boardman said these minutes were for their information only. Mr. Harris asked to have Planning Co�ission see the Center City perspective plan for their information only. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 5. RECEIVE COMMUAIITY DEf/ELOPMENT COiA1ISSI0N MINUTES: NOVE[�ER 13, 1979: MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Schnabel to receive the Community Development minutes of November 13, 1979. Mr. Oquist pointed out the convexsation and motion on rental cotrversion property. He stated they have made a recocmnendation that an ordinance be drawn up to handle this situation, and gave a list of some things that should be in or handled by that ordinance. Mr. Boardman said Mr. Herrick was presently looking at the ordinance that was adopted by Minneapolis. Council was looking at the idea of controlling the rental property conversion through zoning on the basis that the city issues a permit to an apaxtment complex on the condition that there be one owner per apartment and not a multi-owner situation. Therefore not allowing the condominium concept of multi-ownerships. This would allow a co-operative ownership of the apartments. Mr. Harris,safd haz� ling._it through zoning did not seem feasible to him. Zoning was set up to control density and the density would not be changing if the units were rented or individually owned. Mr. Boardman was not sure how that concept would work either and that way one of the reasons for Mr. Herrick looking at the ordinance. The other way of cantrolling would be through special use permits and he felt that was stretching the boundaries of a special use permit. Mr. Oquist said it was inevitable that we would have comrersions someday and felt safe- guards for the renters and buyers should be drawn up now. Mr. Harris felt an additional stfpulation to Coumunity Development's motion should be ihe requirement that any building must be brought up to code before converted. Ms. Schnabel said an ordinance should also be fair to the present owner. If the owner desires to aell, finding a single buyer may be difficult in today's market. If a buyer was found, they many have to increase rent to cover the high interst rates and repairs required for a sa1e. That could eventually mean losing renters because of high rent costs. Therefore, the only way to get the owner's money out of the building would be to convert it. An ordinance should not be written to penalize the owner. Mr. Oquist said their reco�nendations were meant to be fair to the present people in the building and the buyer. PLANNING COMhfI5SI0N MEETING NOVEMBER 28 1979 P� $ Ms. Schnabel said she had heard that some cities may require that at least 51�; of the building must be sold in a certain limit before it was allowed to be converted. She was not sure if it was a city requirement of 51% or an agreement between the owaer and buyer. She felt this could possibly be part of the ordinance. Mr. Boardman did not think it would be wise for the city to put a time limit-in the ordinance. He felt that area should be covered in the purchase agreement, Mr. Harris said the intent of the ordinance should be to ensure the health, safety and general welfare of the occupants of the building. ihat was the city's main responsibility. Ms. Hughes said we should not trv to stop the convereion of rental properties, but, we should make sure there wi11 Be rental property available for tfie-displaced persons__ from a conversion building. — — — - - Mr. Boardman said the city has to help in that area. It was a metropolitan problem and each city has to do something to help solve the problem. Mr. Harris stated this was an area that could be coordinated by the Metro Council. Mr. Boardman replied they do have a housing opportunity plan and all cities must comply with that plan. He said the City Council does want to control the sale of condos, but was not sure legally if they could do so because it was private property. He was waiting for Mr. Herrick's opinion on that. Mr. Oquist asked if Planning Commission wished to do anything with Co�unity Develop- ment's reco�endation besides adding the following stipulations to their inconclusive list: 1. Building must he brought up to code before convertede 2. Check into the feasibility of building presale of not less then S1% before conversion. The coimnission felt Mr. Herrick's opinion should be laoked at first before they take any action. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN IIARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANII�fOUSLY . 6. R&CEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: NOVEPffiER 13. 1979: MOTIQbi.by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to receive the Appeals Co�ission minutes o£ :Navember 13, 1979. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN FIARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARKIED UNANIMOUSLY, 7. CONTINUED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. �OPIING; MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Mr. Oquist to continue the discussion on Proposed Changes to Chapter 205. Zoning until revisions are made by staff. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPIAN FIARRIS DECLAREi3 THE MOTI(1N CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. PLANNING COA'AIISSION MEETING NOVII�ER 28 1979 PAGE 9 8. OTHER BUSINESS; MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to xeceive the letter from Burlington Northern regarding the Blain/Coon Rapids development, UPON A VOICB VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, Ci1.4IRMAN HAARIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANII�USLY . Mr. Harris asked to have this letter pasaed on to City Council, (See attachment �1). Mr. Boardman introduced Mary Cayan as the new Human Services Assistant to the Planning Co�i.ssion, Mr. Boardman said some of Ms. Cayan's duties would include working with the social service agencies in the city. Mr, Harris said he went to the Council meeting to find out about the so called &nvironmental;;mpact Fee (see November 7, 1979 minutes). When he approached the Council they knew nothing about the fee and when he approached Mr. Qureshi there suddenly no such fee. was Mr, Oquist asked what happened to the money that had been collected for this non- existing fee. Mr, Harris said if any fees were collected they shonld be put into the Park's Capital Improvement Fund and notin.a slush fund to buy another dump truck or fire engine. Mr. Boardman'�aid he though_what Mr. Qureshi was trying to get at was setting up a --- — paxk fee that could '�eep up with the cosEs involved Eo provi�e p-arlc ac ti�'es. �ur — nresent svstem has a set fee and that does not�re I-e`ct on cne amoun ox lana'involved:— Our State law does alloia a fee based on l0i o£ law Ian�a�a�--- --- Mr. Harris said those fees should he then dedicated as park capital imprwements, Ms. Hughes said as faraas the Park Com�ission knew, the funds for capital improvements are general fund allocations. It was a standard set fee and has no reflection of how �ch money was collected by the city for park fees. They could could have collected from $500 to $5000 and the conmission wnuld still receive the same amount of money. There has been no accounting of the fees collected. Mx. Oquist said if there was any money collected for the Envirompental Development Fee, and since it was collected under false pretense, it should be returned to the property owner or to the person that paid the fee. MOTION by Mr. Oqaist, secnnded by Mr. Treuentels to authorize Council to return any unauthorized Eirvironmental Development Fees to the party that paid the fee because such feea were collected under falae pretense, and not to collect any further fees �xnder the same conditions. PLANNING CGN@tISSION MEETING I30VE[�&R 28 1979 PL�GE 10 UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN IiARRiS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Ms. Hughes felt the Planning Coffinission should commend Chairman Harris for going to Council and getting answerrs on this fee. The other members of the commission concurred with the co�endation. AA70URNMENT M(YLION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to adjourn Che Planning Commission meeting of No�,ember 28, 1979. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHATRt�tAN �gIS DECLARED THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10:10 P.M. Respectfully submitted, `i�1�`� Paula Long, co di Secretary