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PL 12/05/1979 - 6667CITY OF FRIDLEX A G E N D A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SVEDNESDAY� DECEMBER 5, 1979 CALL TO ORDER: ROLL CALL: APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION SPECIP:L MEE'PING MINUTES: 1. RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISBION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 14, 1979 2. RECEIVE ENVIRONMEDITAL QUAI�ITY COMMI88ION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 20, 1979 3. CONTINUED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER Z05. ZONING 4. OTftER BUSINESS: ADJOURNMENT 7:30 P.M. CITY OF FRIDLEY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEEI�iIDER 15, 1979 SPECIAL MEETING CALL TO ORDER Chairman Harris called the meeting of the Planning Commission of November 15, 1979, to order at 7:38 P.M. ROLL CALL ' Members Present: Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes, Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenfels Members Absent: Mr. Hora, Ms. Schnabel Othere Present: Jerry Boardman, City PIanner Bill Deblon, Associate City Plannex 1. CONTINUED: PROYOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZONING After discussing various changes in the present structure of the proposed changes to Chapter 205. Zoning, the Planning Co�ission asked to have city sta£f revise the format of the chapter. The Commission felt they were having problems going through the zoning ordinance because of the present structure. For example: screening. All districts require screening of garbage, equipment, etc., but each zoning district also has special conditions and restrictions that apply to only that particular zoning district. For instance, when driving thru a heavy co�er- cial area you would expect to see large equipment that may. not be screened, but would not expect to see such equipment in a residential area. Therefore, diffe- rent types of screening would be required in each district. The present structure has screening under a"general" area in the ordinance and the Commission felt each zoning districts special conditions and restrictions for screening should be listed under each seperate district. They desired to see a general introduction plus each district handled seperately, particularly the R3 - M districts. They realized this would create a larger book on Chapter 205. Zoning, and would also create some duplication and cross Yeference, but would then deal with each district's needs and give requirements and specifications to answer those needs. Ms. Hughes felt staff should make a chart showing the eo�on areas of the districts and also the different district's needs and requirements with each other. MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to authorize staff to make a District Chart for R3 - M. The Crnrmission was concerned with the re-organization of only R3 - M districts but Mr. Oquist pointed out that would cause inconsistency between those and the layout of R1 and R2. He also £elt some of the common areas applied to R1 and R2, and they should not be excluded from the general area of the chapter (screening, lighting, parking, etc.). Mr. Boardman atated revising the ordinance would be going back to the original format. Ae said he was also having some problems going through the ordinance and would have staff work on the revision. Ms. Hughes withdrew her motion. Mr. Treuenfels withdrew hia second. Me, Hughes said the ordinance would possibly be more clear after staff has made these revisiona. . SPECZAL PLANNING CO�MISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 15, 1979 PAGE 2 Changea made on pages 20 to 24. PaQe 20 lA. All materials and coimnercial equipment shall be kept in a building or shall be fully screened from public right-of-way or adjoining property of difcerent zoning. 2B. The City Council may require a special use permit for any exterior storage if it is demonstrated that such storage is a hazard to public health, safety and general welfare. 2A. As written 2B. omit 3A. As written 3B. As written 3B1. As written 3B2. A planting screen shall consist of a row of trees and shrubs spaced,not mare. ..'. PaQe 21 3. Screening fences should be maintained whenever necessary.so as to not fadr,; chip or discolor. Broken or knocked down .... 4. As written C1. Any off-street parking area that requires more than 4 spaces and ia ... C2. As written C3. omit • D. All loading docks must be located in the rear or side yards, and be screened from all public right-of-ways or if within 50 feet of adjacent residential zone, mu�t be screened with 96 inches of solid screening fence. E. All trash or garhage storage receptacles must be located in the rear or side yards, and be totally screened from view from public right-of-way. F. As written PaQe 22 G. As written H. As written I. As written J. Commission desired to have solar energy inserted in this paragraph to further explain it. , _�_.. SPECIAL PI.ANNING COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 15. 1979 PAGE 3 Paae 22 continued 4. As written 4A. As written 4B. As wxitten 4C. The City Engineer may specify a minimum fin.ished ground grade for any struc- ture in order to allow proper drainage in connecting to city utilities. 4D. Commission asked to have a legal opinion on this paragraph. 5A. As written SB. Co�ission was againt requiring sod because as stated it means all land, even land along shorelines had to be sodded. Also they ��ere against it because of the high cost of sodding and felt other suitable ground covers should be just as acceptable.(seeding, rock, gravel, etc.) All open areas of any site, e�ccept for areas used for parking, driveways, or storage, shall have groundcover and landscaped with trees, ... Paae 23 5C. As vritten SD. Mx. Harris was upset on this section because he felt it was ridiculous to water grass using city chlorinated water. It was costly to do and the city should promote the construction of shallow.-drift wells far such purposes. MOTIO`: by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to remove Part D of �S, Land- scaping, in Section 205.048, Performance Standaxds. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANII�USLY. 5E. As written 6A. As written 6B. As written 6C. omit 6D. omit 7A. ,Where connection to a sanitary sewer is found by the ..... PaQe 23-A first paragraph - As written SPECIAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NOVEhIDER 15 1979 PAGE 5 MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting of November 15, 1979. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN IiARRIS DECLARED THE MEETING OF THE PLANNING GJMMISSION ADJOURNED AT 10:10 P,M. Respectfully submitted, Faula Long, ecordi Secretary _ , -+�„°. � y._� .< . , . . �. . . . . . .. . . - . .:,3 ' :, .. . �. � � � � � � � � �� PA1i�5 AlPI�'RECREATION COt�^LiS$IdN MEETING 1 Y�DVEMBER 14, 1974 i 4 CALL TO ORDER: . k Cha3rparaon Barbara Aughes ealied the November 14; 1979, Parks 6� Recreation t Cci�mtfssion meetfng to orilar at 7:32.p.m. ' EOLL CALL• Mqmbers Present: Bar}�ara Hughes, Dave Kondrick,,Di,ck Young, Betty Mech {arr. 8:3Q) Members Absentq Jan Seegsr ' Others Present: CirarleS Boudreau, Parks & Recreati;on Director j Curt Da�hlberg, Parks Maintenance Supervisor ' . . . ... ... . �i � . .. � . � . . ; . � , � . � . � � i - � � ... . . . � I � APPROVAL OF OCTOBEIt 17 1979 PARRS 6� RECxEATION GOMI�IISSION NIINUTES: MOTIQN by Mr. Young, seconded by Mr. Kondrick, to 8pprove the November 14, 1979, i ; Perks-& flecreation Commission meeting minutes as written. Upon a voice vote,, � a11 votis�g aye, Chairpersun Anghes declared the motion.carried unanimously. j . i AI?PROVAL OF AGENDA: � � Tite following items were added to the agenda: f '; ICE°�:INK CLOSINGS BY MINNEAPOLIS PARK BOABD - Item E under "Director�s Report° ` NSP'S;L�CATIpN UF SMAI,L POWER PLANTS - Stem B under"New Business^ j Cha�rpaarson Hughes declared the agenda approved as amended. E. If7�-Ck(7�t�S REPORT• j I A. Craft.A'Fair ' � � � a Mr, $oudreau stated that She Craft A'Fair s�as held a couple of weekends ago. IL Was!another attempt.CO get into cultural arCS. Approximately 40 booths � wexe aet �p and abc�ut 1,000 people attended the Craft A'Fair. Ahout $340 � was collected in.rental €ees from the booths, and tKis was split betweei� - ; Gooimunity Education and the Parks & Recreation Department. It was an aut- j stRnding first venture and they hoped to have it a$ain next year. a ' i . . . . . . . .. ..1 $; Fridley/Fourmies Tree of Peace � � I Mr, Boudreaa stated that he had received a communication from Robert Schroer, Board of Diractors of tlie Fridley/Fourmies Sister City organization, in which the organfzation was prsseating the idea o£ utilizing a 40 foot fir tree in I � ; . • i . ; PARI4S & RSCRBATION CE�4Ti5SIU2I MgETING, NOVEMBER 14, I979 - PAGE 2 Bisenhower Park during the �hrtatmas. season. In cooperation with the City and other individuals, they would decorate and light the tree and identify the tree as a Sister City �'ree of Peace or aomething to that effect. Mr. Boudrean stated that Che letCer had c�e with a senae o£ urgeacy, so he had taken it upon-hims�lf to inform the City Manager that he thought it was an adminlstrative decis£on and a good program in keeping with the City's , dedication to th� Sister Gity Project and that the Parks � Recreation Depart- m�nt was going to assiat in any way possihle. Mr. Boudreau stated the City Coeutcil dfd approve the prnjecb and had also approved monies out of their budget to purchase lights,'1f necessarq for the tree. Mr: �oudreau-stated Chat Mir. Schroer had come up with the idea that the Camatttee would attempt to seli one Christmas tree light for $1 to residenta to try to generate more co�unity feeliag and a sense of ownership Chat this ia reaily Fridley's Tree of Peace-with ita Sister City. Mr. Schroer had iaformed Mr. Boudreau that he had already sold $15 worth of lights aad'hoped to generate enough revanue to do a good job on the tree: M�: Boudreau stated that 2he tree was'located in the southeast coraer of Eiaenhower Bark. The tree would ba lit some time in December and he ivould keep 'the Conmdssion iaformed about this. Ms. Hughes stated that the City was really in need of an energy commission. Had.anybody in the C3ty tho�ght about the energy that wonld be used to light the tree? Mrs'Yaung stated that was ��he question he was going to bring up. He felt the majority of homeowners in the last four years had cut down drastically on the amount of outdoor lighting, He had not put up hia outside lights for four years, because of the concept of energy conservation. He liked the concept of the Tree of Peace, but if they were supposed to etrese energy coaservation, the City ahould be the one to shoW the example, and he was mot in favor of it. Ms. �tugfiee stated she-did not object to the Parks 6 Recreation Degartment cooperating in the project,: but she did �ject to this kind of display. Mr. Kondrick:stated he understood what Ms. Hughes and Mr. Young were saying, yet there was a teraible mfause of electricity by used car lots and other such places. Ft wa� not rfght to have to eli.aiinate Such a beautiful thing as a Chri'stmas tree and the idea of Christmas and peace. He thought it was a very good'idea, and the City could concentrate on other areas more wasteful of energy. He was in favor of the Tree of Peace, but that a sensible riumber of 2ighta sho�ld be put on the tree. : Ms, Hughes stated she-realfined Mr. Kondrick's goeitibn,'but'she also agreed wiCh Mr: Young in that the City should be setting att exampYe. - .� : PARiCS &»'�;�:��ATIOA G�&SIt}1 C: CabareC Hite Mr. &oudresu stated that, in an attempt to creste-a well-rounded cultural artg,program, the:Parks & Recreation DepartmenC-was going to sponsor a Cabaret Nite for the first time on Sunday, December 2, at the Senior Aigh School. This night will consist of different acts of local talent. Try- oute were Co be field on Ghe evening of November 20. They were trying to demonstrate that?Pridley has a lot of local talent, and these people should have the opportuaiiy Co perfor�a as well as the football, softball, hockey people, etc. Mr. Boudreau e�couraged the Comnission membera to either participate in or attend the Cabaret Nite. � D. Park Dedication Fee Ma. Hughea stated [haC this it�n had come up at a Planning Commission meeting. Mr. Boudreau read':Ordinance �633, Chapter 211.063, amended as follows: "Each .glat on a subdivision shall be required to dedieate land,or pay in the city fund a cash paymeat equivalent,for public land uses including schools, parks, p2aygrounds, and other public purposes other than public right-of-way in the following manner: lUi of the gross area of resideatial zoned property to be subdiviaiori. 3i of the gx�oss &rea of commercial or industrial zoned property to be aubdivided. Any land deda.cations in excess of the 1(P/ or 3% sequirement should be reserved £or a period of two yeare during which time the City or other public body may buy such Iand. T&e optian of a land dedicatian or cash payment is at the discretion,of the,City."= Hr, Boudresu stated he also had a PlanniAg � Zonibg Form and the policy state- ment on the baqk of that form states: "The park fee for residenCial subdivision is $509 per lot ,ta be paid at the time the City approves a final plat or lot aplit.° He stated t}ris:was a revision dated 10/1/99. Hs. Hugkies asked what ttappens to the park.fee whea it is requested by the City? Mr..Boudresu stated that it goes into their geaeraY operating fund. The Parks � Recreation Department draws their budget money out of the general operating fund and that is where he believed they gczt the yearly item on �,and Purchase and Capital Outlsy of $10,000-$12,Q0�.:>�fhey try to project what they m�ght take in and that 3s put under the budget item of Land Purchases. . . ' . . - � .. . . . y . . Ms. Aughes stated she wanted the Coamdssion to be aware of these numbers, , because-they had changed xecently. This was important because the Commission was not asked about this, and hecause if the City was charging $SOO per 1ot fer park purposes, the Coum�ission mag never even see that money. How do they latiow if it is $10,000 or $22,000 that the Gity is taking.in for park purposes? The Commission ought to look at those things at badget time in terms o£ how much moaey sctually ends up in the glats and, particularly, in terms of park dedicatian. _ ; s; ; 4 - Ms. Hughes stated that aaother fee the Planning Commisaion learned ab0ut last �eek has been called by various- names fncluding an "Environmental Development Fee", Nmbodp sxems to know what is ds used for, other than more revenu� to take-care of the'various thiage.the City has to do relating ta platting and lot splits.' She stated it may well be very ques[ionable. She stated the Plannfng Cnamission will try to get saae answers ou that, beeause'they are tending to ca].1 it environme�tal kfnds of things, and people may atart to think o£ that'as being parks., She was very senaitive to that. It probably only meant for starm water or oth�r kinds of development consider- atioas. She stated she would keep the Commission informed on this, and she Would like the Co�ission to look at the park dedication fee thing at year end to aee how much wortey 3s caming in and how much the Yarks & Recreation Department is really seeing out of ft. Mr, Boudreau stated�that ha has also requested of Mr. Boardman, City Plaaner, . aud the Planning Com�mission that when someane c�es ia with a plat that involves parks, that it be"sent to the Parka 6r Becreation Commiasion for a recaa�endation that, y�s, the Parks & RecreaCion Ca�iseion would like a ca=tain parcel of laad or they would like an "x" amount of dolFara. E, Ice Rink Cloaings � MianeapoYis Park Board _ � Mr. Boudreau referred to an article in the Mfnneapolie paper which stated that the Minneapolis. Park Board plans to shut dawn 25 ice rinks. The article stated: "1960 Park Soard polisy recommends that there be one skating rink for every 7,000 people and one hockey rink for every 14,000 people.° Hr: Boudreau stated that if the City of Fridleq Eol2owed tkat, they would have two hockey rinks and six skating rinks.- The skating rinka for Minneapolis serve a radius of l/2 mile and the hockey rin�Ce aerve a radius of 3/4 mile. According to the xeport, Mfnneapolis' population warrants about:54 skating . rinks and about 28 hockey: rinks. Mr,:Houdresu stated that far.this winter season, the Commission has approved l0 hcckey rinks and 20 general skating aaeas, and they are approachisag the numbers of rinks that the Gity of Minneapolis is talkiag about, Ae wondered if tbe Co�ission should at some time look at a broad policy to guide them oa whett is a hockey rink watrsnted and when is a general skating area warranted. Tt al�o ties in with the energy crisis. The energy that ia expended upon fidckeq'and skating rink maiatenance over a 3�month period is much more than 50 lighted Christmas irees pe; sonth. There needs to be some sensibie guide- lines established. He hoped that prior to next winter, he and Mr. Dahlbere could ge[ Yogether wfth Plattning'and with the Commiasion and cotne up wieh some prupoA'ed policies for the G'omo�ission's consideration that might: guide them fn future developmenta o€ hoakey and general skating areas. � Ms: Hughes agreed that thie-is a discusaioa the Oovm�ission should geE � involved in. , � �`� � ��: 38 �,�!��. 1 fii0 � A1M_ L S .. �� . � . .^ : � , : . Mt. '3(�'eg aaked if the Parks & Recreation llepastmet►� kept figures on the �umbar'of people uaiag the rinka on a daily baeis, Mt. Etucdreate �tnted that, yes, they did, but they had to depead upon the hones�.p pf the warming house a[tendanta to give sccurate figures. He stated Yhat txle attendan�a.,os the slcating areaff whera there are warming house attead�ats has decl3ned in the last two yeaxs [o the extent that he felt the Co�fssion shouid establish soane policiea for guidance fn the future: Ks� Aughes staCed thaC Yhe.Comvaiasion members might try to keep an eye on the Yinks-in th�3r'neighborhoods this w;nter to obaerve the amount of usage. l3x. Boudreau sCated thaL in March, he would have a complete recap of t$e rfnks, thair locatfotxs, their attendance, aad areae +where he felt theq could syorCstnp aome expense and still prov#de the qua�ity service they strive for. ' I�. GHItIRPEBSflN'S REFORT: M$. �ughes etated she had nothing further to report to the Co�ission. �'iI. �T BtI�iNESS^ . A.' Philosophq,- Curt DAhlbert (Parks Maintenance Supervisor) Ms. Stsusireau inCroduced Mr. Dahlberg to the Cwamission, stating that 1#g. Dahlberg vas a long time employee of the City qf Fridleg axd the oae wk►o res32y makes the new innovated things go in Ghe park system, H�. Dahlberg stated tfiaY his philosophq in park maintenance is based on ` €our i�portaat areaa: (i) education; (2) ivnovation; (3) planniag; and, {!*) cQOperativu. ' Mr. Dahiberg stated he £eIt'education is a daily learning process supple- mQnted;by dailq vorkshops; t�tiferences, seminare, and through professional pYganizati+ous. Re is �.iti�mbeF of the Minnesota Park Supervisora Association and ie.prese�tly on its �iaaning Committee. There are licensing require- menta put ouE by the Staxe of Minnesota, and they attend the mandatory saaorlcslsops, Tfao-good examples of licensea are the shade tree license and t1tP iicease to spray dandAlions. They atso service other employees by sesdiag them to thea8 particular workshops and seminars. Mr. Dahlbarg stated they subscribe to.prafessfonal magazines, manuals, � andl.charts, Ih xegard to manuals, he had given the'Commission members a' sa�le of.a manual they had made. In additaon to these typea of manuals, .tkey hava alsa prgpared "How To" manuals for the employees and for the public. Mr» Dahlberg stated they'get a lot of calls from reaidents about grass, Srimming treee, etc., and he felt that was part of the education process Chkoughout the year. They also [ake slidea for slide presentatiana, They art�aage Coura for public benefit, They alsa woxk in a work study program. e ,�;�,_' �fth't7f�triat 24. They usually have a senior from Che hi�h school who works ,� xx ., . . � . '_..i, ' .. . � . � . . . . . . . .. . ' . . . . ' i �- � . 3 _ .. . • . .. �.....:_a. ., r:.:.�.r...�''�L��— .. . . e � . . ... . . � '.� , . {I 1 �� i PARKS & RECRBATIO2Y CQMMISSION MEETING N�VEMS$R 14 1979 PAGE 6 with Chem after acttool-and dvring'-the summer. They try to give the student some training prograeis and theit turn in.grading Yeports to the achool, (Ms. Mech�:arrived at the meeti3eg at 8:30 p.m.:) ' Mr. Dahlber"g atated that'safety is�an overall program they have worked on. Thay have a strong Sa€ety Coumittee within the Citg and the C�mittee provides them'with manuals, ppsters, e�eetings, and anything that will help booat their safety consciousness. They have'benefitted from these safety programss Hducaeion can be sunmred up sa an:important beginning, but without innovat#on, they would no� be meeCing c�ew ehallenges and problema. Mr. DahTberg stated fhat`they:have found xhat th� different types of inaovations carue in lang and short term solations. They.try to treat t�ie problems before they become problems, and try to use Ynnovation in labor and maintenance techniques. They do testing and exgerimenting to came up with ways 'to save costs and maintenance time.':Re s[ated that new ideas are importanC, hut the overall pl"Snning o£ equip�nt and;personpel is samething they have to Yook into. Mr, Dahlberg stated that planning is an ongoing process that helps in the long ' run. One example is the 2andscaping they started 3'� years ago. They first started by planting all the trees they could dn the particular landscape designs for the parks. Theae �ere all the deciduws trees for shade and beauty which they called "s��r color". Theg feel they have enough trees now to look into the second phase of the overall landscape planning program Frhich is "winter color". After the "winter color", they hope they will have enough money to put in ahruhs. Titey feeY that once they have aIl these.things in, they will have a nice�city beautifieation program. Mr. Dahlberg stated that with regard to strucfiures� they did not have many buildings in the parks`,to work with. They tried to put aYructures wiGhin the best traffic patterna and not"where thera were drainage probl.ems. They were going to new wood st�!'uctures as they were modern looking, were more useful, �nd were cost comparable to the metal structures. M;. Dahlberg stated that the Commission membera had a copy of the "1974'Rev�sed Summer Park Assignmenks" which showed the plauning of inen and aquipment. Mx. Dahlberg stated that iu°working with gark maintenance, they have to be elert to other groups, such as:recreation groups and civic groups, and what t$eir programs are and what-'they can do for these groups. Recreation is probably the biggeet group they work with by lining up the fields and brin�ing in xhe equipment,for football, soccer, tennis, volleyball, etc. They kelp the daycees with their state tournament, help the Islands of Peace, and, in addition, they work with aompanies:sach as'H. B. Fuller Co., who wish to give donatfons. They,provide a13 the equipment, material, and.manpower, with the exception of a poliae officer, for the bike rodeos at the elementary-schools. They also cooperate with the Pub13c ifork&:Department by doing a lot of highway maintenance along one "side�of Bnfverait�:Avenue. : � PARKS =de • .�A'I�'piDN C�AITSSION N[EBTING, NOVEMB7'�R I4, 1979 � .- 1�1iia�'E 7 Mr. Asdtciites�g atated that this sommed up what they do throughout the City during the year. He hoged the Co�isaion felt �e he did that education, i�ct6vaEion, glanning, and coopeFation are ail a gadd paxt of the succes$ of the gark�depaxtmoerjt aud that-they try [o give t�e.City and its people the beai paXk syste�:with�n the available resources.,,and within their budget limitationa. Mz�.Kondrick stated that Mr. Dahlberg gave an excellent presentation. He asked Mr. Dahlberg what the Co�ission could or should do to make his job eaeier. Mr. Dahlberg staCefl that one thing was what Mr. Boudreau had talked about , earlier in the meeting.regarding the need for poYicies for guidance in-future development of hockey aqd ganeral skating rinks, A'lso, there was a real need far new puildings in ttte(parks for the citizens of the City. He stated they were always open to new ideas and would appreeiate any canments the Commissian might have. Mr, Youpg asked Mr, Dahlberg if he had a yearly figure on the amount of vandalism in ti�'parks. Hr. Dahlberg stated he did not have any figures with him on vandalism,,but could get those figures from the files for a later meeting., Mr. Young,stated that at one time there was a park ranger who patrolled the pa;ks. He wondered if the vandalism had increased now that there was no los�ger a park ranger. Mr. Dahlberg stated that when he began working for the City, the amount of vandalism was extremeYy high. It has been.steadily decreasing in the years he has been with the.City; Hawever, after the'park ranger quit, there was an iaflux:of vandalism .for about l'� months. They now have additional cooperation with C,tte poiice dep�rtment who are patrolling the parks a little heavier, so the vandal#am is-on the decrease again. , Ma. Hughes:thanked Mr. IIa�lbarg very much for his preaentation and stated that it had been very infoxmative. S. NSP's Location of Small Power Plants t�'. Hughes stated that ahout a week ago, NSP annouuced they were going to build - three, 200 megawatt small power plants in the metropolitan area. They •, � announced eight ppssible sites for these-p1,a�tts. One of these sites is`across " the street from:North Park/Springbrook Nature CesCer on the land that is being { cleared now in Coon Hapids along County Road 132. a 'i Ms. Hughes stated that a second site is in Fridley at East River Road and.694, and there are at Least 2-3 choices there, one of which might be the FMG prppartg,;'Another choice there is north of 694 and east o£ Bast River Road 1n tbe industrial area there. :; ' � 1 � � P�i�S b°RSC$EATION C�S3IUN MBE'�ING NOVEMBBR 14 1979` - PAGE 8 Ms, Hughes atated that a third aite that is nartheast is the Riveraide Plant. She knew there were some pei'mita being requested at the Pollution Gontrol Agettcy to expand Riverside r OCher sites were all south--Shakopee, Eagen, and the B1ack Dog Plan� 1a Mtnneapolis. Ms. Hughea st�ted,this Was £ar the Commissian's information, but she thought they should be aware of this, becsuse two of the poreniial eitea are located in or near Fridleq parks. IV. OLD BUSIPIESS: . A. County Devalop�eut -'F.M.C. Property , { Ms. Aughea atated thaC the Cammission members had copies of a packet of ' material on the FMC propertq that went to Metropoiitan Council. It,includes i a deecription of the project and a map on the last page that shows some of the development. Sbe taauld'like tha Commission to be aware of Chat, � , Ma, Hughes atated that the last £nformation she had was that part of.tha money the � State has in the Great River Road Project for parks has beeu earmarked for ; puxchase of this property aad a1T of it. There won't be any reserved parCs fcsi+ a motel or anyth3ng like that. It would also tie the:Islands of Peace :inCo this'and there would be some attempt to run a spur line from this park up to get on to the Mississippi Tsland. She atated that the Commission had � not been asked to eomment on'this, but she wauted them to be aware of this proposal. The City Council has already agreed to the plan. I Mr, Boudreau stated that, staffwise, they were in concurrence with these plans, because it is another park area to serve the reaidents of Fridley, yet it will I be a regional facility, They are also looking at how Fridley may benefit from it in fulfilling the requests they have ha$ to build some kind of lassnch for boats oato the Misaissipgi River. � Ms: Hughes stated,that in the new year, she would like the Coummissian to stazt eome discussions aboyt a}�ark philosophy. She would not like them to talk about specific staff xecommendations and staff proposals, but hsve them just take thg tvpic, "parks and recreation", and hash it out so they will see if th�y have a philosophy as a citiaen board. She stated the co�ents they have been getting from the staff have been excellent and guiding. ADJOiTRNMEHT • • � CAsfrperson Hughes declared the November 14, 1979, Parks & Recreation C m�mission mzet3ng adjourned ab 9:21 g.m;,; . 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'4. �� " �' .,�E �:�k68 ,� �tp��ffLi ftY K@LE:Y�,�Ai4. =fdOtf�9.�''�"".,, !$�31 B�OtR�{ CItE� Yl,��d �f�' YiQ�t �aed �m patr�a�e, �rt��tite � � vcate. :aiY,.u�ri[��-�. � t= �ed°uriam�iousl�t. ` f F"•_-, 3r: became acaa�e of t�te €1�ct tre$tm�t p3.�tt� a�ci u#h of b44. `the'MS� cs�s disy that: was. a �oissYt�.al tise Ctz�nigsirnt.t�i be �rar�. �his, sitiaatis�t, ;: ' re gro�siy aI.��'me�i at t6ie + stt; €�ct tite ' critical •-s�e�s ia i �.�t'o ��as�x� the,��`t�`#,�tg.' `�pan e}�fa2d,.c�ec-lar�i C�e �•txvember 20, 1979, rs�d ag 9.'St3 p..�. i. ,� ., ,r'" , K � ix., .. . .�. , s."T.- � �,:; : �� CITY OF FRIDLEY j PLANNING CO�ILIISSION MEETING, DEC&[�BR 5, 1979 ...: CALL TO ORDER Chairman Harris called the Planning Commission meeting of December 5, 1979, to order at 7:33 P.M. ROLL CALL Members Present: Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes, Mr. Harri� Mr. Treuenfels Membera Absent: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Langenfeld Others Present: Jerry Boardman, City Planner; Bill Deblon, Associate City Planner APPROVB PLANNxNG COI�IISSION MINUTES: November 15. 1979: _ w 1�PDTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Oquist to approve the Planning Co�ission minutes of November 15, 1979, as written. UPON A VOICE VOTB� ALL VOTING AYS, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DSCLARED THS MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 1, RECEIVE PARKS AND RECREATION COi�f[lISSION MINUTES: NOVII�ER 14. 1979: MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to receive the Parks and Recreation Com�iesion minutes of Nwember 14, 1979. Mr. Treuenfels questioned the need of having a lighted Christmas.tree in &isenhower Square due to the energy crisis. This tree was to be part of the Siater City Program. Ms. Hughes said she was against the idea. She stated this was an accomplished idea before it had gotten to her co�issian. She felt they wouldn't necessarily save a lot of electricity by not ha�ing lights, but felt the city should be setting an example on energy conservation. She also was against it because of some religous significaMe, Mr. Boardman explained this was not a staff oriented idea, but was presented by the civic organization that handles the Sister City Program. Mr. Treuenfela felt the Sister City organization could possibly offer a class in French culture or language instead of a Christmas tree. Mr. Boardman added the txee was more a symbolism between the 2,cities. The lights on our tree and the lights on the tree in France are suppose to be turned on at the same time. Council was in favor of this proposal. UPON A VOICS VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN IiARRIS DECLARED TH& MOTL�N CABRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 2. RECEIVE SNVIRONMENTAL OUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: NOVP.t�ER 20. 1979: MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to receive the Environmental Quality Commission minutes of November 20, 1979. Mr. Harris questioned the status on the Trunk Highway 10/North Crosstown project. Mr. Deblon said there was an open houae recently were there were drawings and displays of the corrid6rs proposed. The consultant had eliminated all but 2 of the possible placements, however, the Department of Transportation had not approved that action. gL�1�ING CO,j�,ISS,j�QN P�ETING. DECShffiER 5. 1979 PAGE 2 The consultant was assu�ing Highway 10 would be relocated. Mr. Boardman stated the Management Task Force was just finishing up theix documents (environmental impact, etc.) and they should be out within Che next month. These documents will have to be reviewed before any action was taken. Mr. Harxis questioned if storm water would be coming into our water system fxom this proposal. Mr. Deblon replied Hwy. 10 will cross Spring Brook Creek. Mr. Boardman added that drainage will be in a watershed disCrict. We should get some answers to those questions when the environmental assessment was in. Ms. Hughes said air quality reviews on current Hwy. 10 were so bad, there was no choice except relocation. Mr. Deblon pointed out the discussion on the Anoka Airport. Ae said a public hearing was held. Right now they would like to upgrade the airport to intermediate status, mainly for safety reasons. The airport would have a 24 hour-manned tower and only freight traffic and small co�ercial jets would land there. Presently it was being used f ar those purposes. Mr. Oquist said flight patterns may come over Fridley and cause noise pollution for us. This was the same p=oblem they have with the area around Metropolitan Airport and they were creating the same problem again. Mr. Harris pointed out there was not too much we could do to stop the upgrading. The planea have to land somewhere. Ms. Hughes asked to have Mr. Dehlon keep a close eye on this issue.. UPON A VOIC& VOTE, ALL VOTING AYB, CHAIRMAN }IARRIS DECLARED THS MOTION CARRIED UNAN7MOUSLY. 3. CONTINUED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTSR 205. ZONING: MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to continue the discussion on proposed changed to Chapter 245. Zoning. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLAItED THE MpTION CARRIBD UNANIMOUSLY. 4. OTHER BUSINESS: Mx. Iiarris asked Mr. Treuenfels to set up a meeting with Fatker Paul of St. William's Church and the ministerial co¢enittee of Fridley in January. The purpose would be to coordinate plans or organizations that handle social functions and concerns, such as prw ided by KKKK. Mr. Boardman asked to be notified of the meeting so a representative from staff could also attend the meeting. Mr. Boardman infoxtned Planning Cormnission that Council had approved all their requests for funds and had increased IQ�Z's amount from $1500 to $2500 with none of the stipu- lations Planning Cormnission had placed on them. PLANNING COA7NIISSION MEETING DSCII�ER 5 1979 PAGE 3 Ma. Hughes said she was at the Council meeting and was sutprised at their action. However, K[�LLK was there and presented a good slide presentation of theix organization and a very extensive budget of nearly $6700. The Council did instruct the City Manager's office to draw up a resolution authorizing payments out of the 1980 budget. Oneehing that helped persuade the Council was the presentation given by KKKK. Mr. Oquist wanted to know how Council could justify a$2500 fund for an oYganization that reaches only 70 families. Ms. Hughes said she had wanted to get the Planning Co�mmission and Council together so Planning Co�ission could ;h;�ar what Council wanted or deaired as r.far as funding goes for these agencies that request them. However, Council, she felt, had reacted only to the situation that night at the meeting and not what was reco�nended to them. Mr. Boardman felt Planning Co�ission and Human Resources should get all Che criteria and policies for fund requests together 6efore they bring it to the Council. MOTION hy Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to adjourn the Planning Co�ission meeting of December 5, 1979. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYS, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DSCLARED TH8 MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:11 P.M. Respectfully submitted, �� i17�4 , Paula Ldng, Record g Secretary