PL 02/06/1980 - 6670PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIN6
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL: �
City of Fridley
AGENDA
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 1980
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: JANUARY 23z 1980
1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT P.S.
#$0-01, UNIVERSITY IN6USTRIAL PARK advertised as East
Ranch Estates 5th Addition , BY ROBERT SCHROER: Replat of
the NW 1/4 of the SW 1/4 af Section 2, T-30, R-24, City of
Fridley> MN, Nnoka County, except that part taken for State
Hi9hway No. 47;.except the South 284 feet of the West 460
feet and except the West 460 feet lying northerly of the
south 66b feet. Generally located between 74th Avenue and
81st Avenue N.E., on the West side ofi University Avenue.
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#80-07, BY ROBERT SCHROER: Rezone Lots 2, 3, 4, antl b, �iocK 3>
and Lots l, 2, 3, 4, 7 and 8, Block 4, ef proposed plat,
University Industrial Park (adverttsed as East Ranch Estates
5th Addition), from C-2 (general business areas) to M-1
(light industrial areas) located in the NW 1/4 of the SW 1/4
of Section 2, generally located between 79th Avenue N.E.
and 81st Avenue N.E.
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
pLANNING COMMISSION MEETYNG, JANU?ScY 23, 1980
CALI, TO ORDER:
Chairman Harris cailed the January 23, 1980, Planning Commission meeting to �der
at 7:45 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present; Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenfels, Mr. Langenfeld, Mr, Oquist, Ms. Hughes,
Ms. Schnabel
Membexs Absent: None
Others Present: Jerrold BoardmansCity Planner
Bill Debion, Associate City Planner
AFPF.OVAL OF JANUARY 9 1980 PLAI�R�TING COMMISSION MIIVIITES;
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to approve the January 4, 198Q,
Planning Commission minutes as corxected.
Mr. Langenfeld wished to have ehe minutes further explain his feelings noted on page
2, paragraph 6. He stated hi.s concern was noC only personal, but also was concerned
for the possible political implications because the Spring Brook F�undat'ion _.
had not renewed their contract.
Ms. Hughes added that the Park Commission was not upset because the i�oundation had
not renewed their contract. The Commission felt what was set out to do by tha Spring
Brooic Pazk Foundation had been accomplished and Che City should take over the park
at this point.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYEj C:IAIRPIAN IikItRIS DECLARED THE NiOTIQN CSP�P.IED.
1. CONTINUED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHP.PTnR ZOS. ZONING
Mr. Boardman e}cplained all previous corrections and changes given to sCaff 6y a11 the
cocmnissions had 6een incorporated in this dxaft.
CHAPIGES AND CO&RECTIONS
PAGE 1:
Bottom paragraph - delete duplicate line
PAGE 3:
Definition no. 21 - add the ward adoption after. the word marriage
PT.AITNING COPII�7ISSION MESTZNG, .TfuvUABY 23. ?980 ph.rE 2
YAG� 5:
Definition no. 43 - change permitted to i.ncluded
Add definition for "Recyling Cente:"
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No. 4- Mr. Harris felt the term fair market value should be deleted from thia item.
He felt iL would difEieult to determine that cost if a building was damaged. Mr.
Boardman zeplied because this building in question was of a non-conforming use, we
want to get rid of the structure and we should have some type of dollaz amount to de-
termine the value it would cost ta replace the structure. He also stated this standard
comes from the state- and they use a dollar amount. The commission reworded the icem
to xead ...�50%) or more af its assessed vaieation as determined ...
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The commi.ssion took no act9.on on section 205.047 (Environmental Quality) until updated
state charts are brought in by member Barbxa Hughes.
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No. 5- Mr. Harris asked the coRanission members if a 350 foot radius of propexty owners
was large enough. for notification on commission Uusiness. Mr> Boardman stated this
was in line with state requirements for notification. The commission agreed it was
adequate.
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No, 3- Same question as £or page 17, except for a 200 foot radius. Ms. Scllnabel sai.d
the Appeals Commxssion telt this distance was fair. However hex commission felt thexe
should be some type ef notification to adjoining property owners when a lot split wa�
requested. PresenLl,* there was no notification. Mr. Soardman stated he would cneck
into tfiaC request. He thought it would require a modification in the Platting Ordinance.
YAGE 22:
First paragraph change bonded to secured.
No. 4- Ms. Schnabel said the Appeals Commission felt some type of tfine period should
be placed on a building permit. For example, work must be cnmpleted within 2 years
after the building permit was issued. The Appeals Gommission felt there were many,
and continuing instances in Fridley where projects caere skarted by private individuals
and never completed. This causes a visuai and possible dangerous situation foz a neigh••
boxhood.
Mr. Boardman said he cuould have to check into the legality of that requirement.
Ms. Hughes asked what the city could do to someone who has not completed construction
within the time period.
Ms. Schnabel said one recourse could be revoking the building permit. The city should
have some sort of recourse,
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Ms, Hughes pointed out if the percmit was xevuked, the construction would never be com-
gleted. Tf there was a danger or problem to the neigl�borhood, that could be handled
because of the health, safety, and welfare factors already pxovided in the ordinance.
PAGE 23:
Section 205.06 (DistzicC Provisions)
Mr. Boardman stated this section was not included in this draft but will be included in
the final copy.
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Correct section number on top o£ page to 205.071
No. 2A-2 - The coummission felt the wording oE this sentence was not clear and should
be reworded.
No. 2D - This section refers Co mothes-in-law apartments, Mr. Harris aaid this Cype of
housin� was needed but feit there should be some type of follow up from the city,
for example the fire marshall, to make sure there was adequate ventelation and exits
in case of a fire oz emergency in these apar.tments, Mr. Boardman suggested a license
could be required to have a unit like this in your home. This would give the city
the legal means to ensure ail safety factors are being met.
Ms. Hughes stated a license would not cure the problem oh unsafe conditions if Che
homeowner does not apply Eo� a license. The unsafe condiCions will be er.isting even
before that area of the home was converted to an aparCmenC. The license was one more
example of control on top of control on top of control. She felt it was an unnecessaxy
invasion of privacy and the safety factors were more important.
Mr. Harris said the license would give the city the 1ega1 means to go into a home
and make sure the apaztment was safe. If it did not meet requirements, the ciCy c wld
revoke the license and shut down the apartment until safety precautions were taken.
He stated the license fee should be very minimal.
Mx�. Oquist questioned the definition on limited dwelling.
Mr. Boardman stated a limited dwelling was a completely self-contained unit withzn a
single-family dwelling. It will be occupied by a family membex and must have at least
one main entrance through the main single-family dwelling structure,
Ms. Hughes quesCioned i£ a walkout 6asement would be legal. The outside door could be
ased as a main entrance to allaw for moxe privacy for both parties.
Mr. Boardman replied it would be legal so long as the entrance inside the home was not
blocked off.
No. 3A - change wording to: 5econdary accessory building as per section 205.071.
No. 3B - Mr. Boardman stated churches and private schools were placed under the special
use pexmit secCion.
PLANNING COMhIISSICN ME:LiING, JAiv'UARY 23, 1980 PAGF 4
No. 3C - change wording: A11 non-commercial, golf couzse, country club, yacht clubs,
tennis courts and swimming pools and additional recreatfonal uses and not an accessory
use to the principal uses in R-1 District.
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G - delete
Section 205.073 (Lot Requirements and Setbacks)
Item 1- Mr. Oquist stated' the minimum lot size was now 7,SOo square feet. The
Co�tunity Development Commission felt this size was adequate and followed the rem mmendx
tion oE the Metro Councii, Eecause of land shortage and land costs, any size larger
becomes prohibitive. He also pointed out the 60 fo�t width requirement £or lot size.
ifr, Harris questioned if setbacks should be changed because lot size requirements had
been made smaller. He thought it could be hard to place a house on that size width
1ot and still meet all the setback requirements.
Mr. Oquise said the setbacks were not to ensure a certain size house, but to ensure
adequate space between homes for health and safety.
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Ms, Schnabel asked the Commission to jump ahead to page 27 where minimum floor area
requirements was discussed. She noted on the last para�raph oE page 27 the coork or
should be the word of. Ms. Schnabel said the Appeals Commission had come up caith a
recommendation for minimum floor requirements.
1. Lot of 9,000 square feet or larger - 1,020 squaxe feet on Che first floor,
including garage area.
2. Lot of less than 9,OOD square feet - 768 square feat on the firse iloor,
eacclusive . of garage area.
Tlte Appeals Commis�ion felt they would lil:e to get away from home style definitions
(split level, rambler, etc.). They also felt these lots could handle �he recc�iunended
size heme and still be consistent with the area.
Mx. Oquist questioned the fact that a house on a smaller lot was almost as large as a
home on the larger lot, euen though a garage had been included on i:he laxger size lot.
The Appeals Co�nission supQorts the including of a garage because a garage no1: only
houses a vehicle, but also cuas a storage place for combustible items that normaily would
be stored in the fiome; storaoe of miscellaneous items (6ikes, trailers, yard equipment,
etc.) that would be unsightly; and they fele a garage would not be a financial bur�en
on someone who buys a lot of at 1easC 9,000 square feet.
Mr. Oquist pointed out a garage was an expensive item and could make the difference
between someone being able to purchase the home or not being able to purchase the home.
Mr. Oquist qnestioned if garages were even needed as a requirement. He did not think
it was fair to place a garage requirement on a caxtain sfze home and not another size
home. The question oi a garage need was not aestketics, but safety and welfare.
Mr. Boardman pointed out Y.he Appeal's recommended floor requixements would give the
same visual appearance ii there was a gara�e or not.
PLt�?iIdSNG CO;�C`iISSIO;? PIEP.TIJdG. J?�^JA'RY 23 ?9�0 PAGM 5
Ms. Hughes stated she thought the city in the past had not required attached garages.
Mx. Boardman said the requiremant was for detached garages. The city had desired to
aee attached garages more recently.
Mr.-0quist stated again that financially some builders may desire noC to build garages
because that would help lower their costs and there£ore make mnre people able to pur-
chase the home.
Ms. Hughes felt a vote should be taken to see if garages should be required, �ben
if they were not required by ordinance, it would not prohibit the construction of a
garage.
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Oquise to delete Section 205v075 (Parking
Requirements), Ieem 1(Garage Requireir.ent) and change Ttem 2(General Provisions ) to
Item 1.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, OQUIST� H[JGHES� IIARI2IS, TREUINFELS, LANGENFELD V�TING AYE,
SCHNA3EL VOTING NAY, CHAIRMAN HARItIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED BY A 5 TO 1 VOTE.
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Mr. Harris questioned if 60 feet woul.d be wide enough for a corner lot. Mr. Boardman
said a house could be designed to fit the lot and meet all requirements.
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No. 4B-3 ^ Ms, Schnabel said since the commission was not zeqairing a gaxage to be
6uilt, did they want to change the side yard requirement o£ 13 fe.:t to something largex
so a garage could 6e built in the future. She pointed out that 13 feet would n�t
give enough room for an attached gasage and recommended a 17 foot sideyard requirement.
Mr. Boardman said the city cannot control if adeqsate space was left fox an attached
garage, just so long as minimum requirements crere set and met. Ae stated a detached
garage cneld be built instead o£ an attached garage.
Ms. Hughes said she thought Mr. Boardman stated earlier detached garages were not
allowed.
Mr, Eoardman corrected himself. He also said the city's responsibility was to only
allow area for the possibility of a garage and that was what the 13 feeC did, If
the homeowner desired to build an attached garage in the future, he would have to plan
foX that when he built. The 13 feet was only a minimum sideyard and the homeowner
could leave more if he chooses.
Ms. Schnabel said that was why she felt this section should read 17 feet and not 13
feet to a11ow for the futuxe.
Mr. Oquist pointed ouC that the ordinance was not a reminder to the homeowner on how.
much room to leave for future expansion. It only sets the minimum sideyazd requirement
and i£ the homeowner want to leave more room he can do so.
Mr, Boardman suggested xewording this sentence to: Where a house is constructsd without
a garage, a sideyard of thirteen (13} £eet is required. The co�mnission agreed to that.
PLANTQIP7G COMMZSSI01� TfEETI?�G JAtdL'.��.RY 23 1980 PAGF: 6
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No. D2 - omit "or welfare" from last sentence.
205.074 (TSuilding Itequirements), Item 2(Minimum £loor area)
Ms, Schnabel referred to her previous stated recommendations on minimum floor area:
1. Lot of 9,000 square feet or larger - 1,020 square feet on the first floor,
including garage area.
2. Lot of less than 9,000 square feet - 768 square feet on the first floar,
exclusive of garage area.
The Appeals Commission felt there should be a stated number of square feet required to
be consistent with the rest of the city. The new ordinance copy has no �tated minimum
required square footage.
Mr. Boardman stated theg were using the state code. Each type of room (bedroc�m, bath,
kitchen, and livingroom). has a stated minimum squaxe footage area required, This
way if a builder only needs to build a 2 bedroom home, he would only have to build
a squaxe Eootage area for 2 bedroons, bath, kitchen and livingxcom and nothing extra.
This would help cut down on wasted space and dollars. Mr. Boardman said he did not
have the minimum souare footage for each type of room as stated by the state,
Ms. Schna6el asked the commission to hold off any decision on this section until they
can look at the state figures and compare them with Appeal's recommendation.
PAGE 28:
Change paxt 3 of Parkirg Requirenents to 2 and (2) to {1) in same section.
205.076 (Perforcnance Standards)
No. 7A - Chan�e tc: All materials shall be kept in a building or shall be fully
screened, so as not to be visibl.e from any public right-of-way, e�ccept crhere the ...
3B - delete
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4A - chunge to: All open areas of any site, except for areas used for parking, drive-
ways, nr storage shall be sodded or seeded,
�nd of R-1 District
MOTSQN by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr, Treuenfels to continue the discussion on pro-
posed changed to Chapter 2Q5. Zoccing,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, AI.L VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN RARRIS DECLP.REB THE MOTION CAR�CIEU.
Z. RECEIV� HOUSTNG AND P�DE(�ELOPrfEN'C At7THORITY MINUTES; D�C�ER 13, 1974:
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Oquist to receive the Housing and Redevelop-
ment Authority mznutes of December 13, 1979.
PLAi�;VIN� G0:'4iIS5702. N�`r,'TING SE7�LJ2ScY 2:5 1980 PAGE 7_
Mr. Langenfeld pointed out the discussion on page 2 about either a Pt]D (PLanned UniC
Development) Ordinance or Special Use Permit Eor the Overlay Zoning District. Mr.
Boardman said it was still under discussion with Mr. Herrick, but that he preferred
the special use pexmit.
Mr. Boardman also stated the Center City Project had some proposals and they wi11 be
pzesented at the .7aivary 24, 198o meeeing of the Housing and Redevelopment Authoriry.
UYON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING A'YE, CHAIRMAN IiABItIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED.
3. 1tECEIVE COr�I[TNLTY DEVELOPMSNT COMMISSION MIN[J'�5: JANtJARY 8. 1980
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Hughes to receive the Community Development
Commission minutes of January 8, 1980.
Mr. OquisC said Mr. Herrick was sti11 reviewing the condo convession draft ordinance.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL V�TING AYE, CIiAIRMAN IiARItIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED,
4. OTHER BUS7NES5
2ir. Langenfeld read a copy of the lettex he sent to the City Manager and Council in
response to being asked to be on the Energy Commission. IC stated he £elt the people
who served on the Energe Co�nitCee were all very tale.nted and they all had
worked very hard and with great speed to set up the guidelines and policies of the
Enexgy Coimnission. They were under the impre�sion that the aew commission was greatly
nerded. However, he felt, as of yet, thexe had been no real action taken on using
their work and geCting this commission going.
Ms. Rughes said she received infor.nation that the League of Plinneso�a Cities has set up
funding to help cities establish a noise ordinance and noise planning area in their
cities. Mr. Board:nan said he received the same information and it will be presented
to the Council at their ne�ct conierence �aeeting for discussion.
MOTSON 6y Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to receive the Guidelines fox the
SetCing of the Prioritization of Funding Requests as prepared by Citp staff and to be
passed onto the Human Resource Commission for xevie�a and co�ent.
i3PON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRNtAN IIARRIS DECLARED THE MOTIOI� CARRIED>
Mr, Harris asked Mr. Treuenfeis to have his cor.unission look at the document, add to or
amend as they desire and bring it back to the Planning Commission.
MOTLON by Mr. Langenfeld, secondad by Ms. Schnabel to receive the memo from Mary
Cayan.
I3PON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRl`SAN IIA12ItIS DECI.ARED TIiE MOTION CARRIED.
This memo was an outline of the meeting with the i�iinisterial Conm�ittee of Fridley,
city staff and Planning Corrnnission members to see what type of social sexvices are
provided already in the city. Ms. Hughes said she noted some duplication of services
rz.�n�tvzNC cora�zsszo��= *Tr�x�:nc, _anr,�t�x z�, l9ao ____,______� rnc� �
provided by the various churches, but �elt that was good. That would give the
opportunity for someone to go more than one place to get hel.p or services.
Mr. tlarris said they also had a meeting witi7 community schools and the commiss�on
should get a similar suu¢nar� on that meeting. They would be meeting with the county
for the same reasons soon.
Mr. Langenfeld said the various resouxces of sociai services st�ould pool their inforaia-
tion into one'media.
Mr. Treuenfels ssid the Fridlev Com.�nittee Se.rvice Bulletin does just thaC and they
do try to cover a11 areas and agencies.
Ms, Schttabel said the city should handle this pooling of resources. Tt cannot be
handled by the school because there are numberous districts in the city.
Mr. Boardman said th�t was the purpose of these meetings. We don't know what the
needs axe yet, we have to identify them, see what agencies provide the service, and
then see where the city can fielp,
Mr. Harris resd a notice from the Metro Council about a seminar to be izeld oi� 2/�?/$0,
at the ka3isson South. Any intexested commission members should let Mx. Boardman
know by 2/4/80 iE they want to actend.
Mr. Langenield felt the commission members ehould get a gas alloaance for attending
monthly meetings.
MOTION Uy Mr. Langenfeld, ceconde3 by Ms. Schnabel to have Council �rant e morti�,i7y
�pence for gas oi $5.00 per person.
t7PON A VOICE VOTE, OQL?IST, HUGHES, TP.EUEIVFELS, SCHNAI3FL, LAIr'GENPELD VOTIIVG AYi;, I36T.iPP�IS
VOTTNG NAY, C1iAI&�SFiN HF,RRIS DECI.rllZED THE MOTION CARRIF.0 BY A 5 TO i VO'PE,
ADJOU�:1+^?NT
ifOTTON by Mx. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Oquist Co adjourn the January 23, 1980,
meeti.ng of the Planning Cocm;�ission at 11;15 P,M,
Fes�ect£i.11y submitted
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PU6LIC HEARING
BEFORE TNE
PLANNIP�G COMHISSION
ROTICfi IS HERE6Y GIVEN thet there will be a Public Nearing of the Planning
Commission of the City of fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue '
Northeast on Wednesday, February 6, 1980 in the Council Ghamber at 7:30 P.M.
for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Preliminary Plat,
P.S. #20-01, East Ranch Estates 5th
Addition, by Robert Schroer, being a
replat of the Northwest Quarter of
i:he Southwest Quarter of Section 2,
T-30, R-24, Anoka County, Minnesota,
except that part taken for State
Highway No. 47> except the South 284 feet
of the 41est 460 feet and except the
4lest 460 feet lying northerly of the
, South 666 feet.
Generally located between 79th Avenue
and 8lst Ave�ue N.E., on the Idest side
of University Avenue N.E.
Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above matter may be heard
at this tin;e.
Publish: January 23, 1980
January 30, 1980
RICHARD N. NARRIS
CNAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
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CITY OF FRIDLGY MTNNCSOTA
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APPLICANT'S SIGNATURB
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Address ?��-a uA�� v�nr � r� �t/� �
Telephane Number S� 1— GG�-d
PROPERTY OWNER'S STGNATURE �
Addres s%b yo LiNt d�/i !'r T�i �i ✓k �(/• �•
Telephone Number S i�- 6 6�
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Street Location of Property 74T/l
Legal Description of Property
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TYPE OF REQUEST
Rezoning •
Special Use Permit
Approval of Premin-
inary Fr Final Plat
Streets or Alley
Vacations
lOther
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Fee�%� Receipt No. 30 ,
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Present Zoning Classification M-/- Ha.-('o,Fvcisting Use of Property �y,n.�
Acreage of Property zd.c �UA CiZd3 Describe briefly the proposed zoning classification
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or type of use and improvement groposed il �— . 1�1 i- —�e� �i��?CC�L
Has the present appli.cant previously sought to rezoae, plat, obtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? yes �( no.
What was requested and when?
The undersigned understands that: (a) a list of all residents and owners of property
within 300 feet (350 feet for rezoning) must be attached to this application.
(b) This application must be. signed by all owners of the property; or an explanation
given why this is not the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings
resulting from the failure to list the names and addresses of all residents and
property owners of property in question, belongs to the unde:signed.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn a.nd attached, showing the
following: 1. North Direction. 2. Gocation of proposed structure on the lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setbacks.
4. Street Names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (wittiin 3U0 fe�t}.
The undersigned hereby declares
application are true nnd c
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that all the facts and representations stated in this
Date of Hcaring ��' r� �/`� O
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That Chaptcr ?.11.UG3 be amernted a5 follrn+s: ' �� . ;
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Eaeh plat of a su6division shaTl be reqoired to deJicate land, or pay {
, tnto the City fund a ca;b payment cquiealenk, for public land uses, �` '
, fncludin� schools, parks, p1�Y7ronnds and other public purpo,es oiher ,' ��
..� than public righi oF way, in tl�e followir.g nanner: .' • �. ,
�1Q7; of the gross area of residential zor�ed proper•ty ,�• ;
• to Ee Subdivided; '
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�3% of the gross area of canmercial or indvstrial zoned
property to be subdivided.
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hny land cledicaticn in excess of Che t0;; or 3`A rer�uirenertt shall be . :
. tcserved for a period af ts.o yeSrs during which tirie the City or uther �
public body may huy such land. • • t •
The option of a tand dedication or cash.payment is at the discretion •
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PAS5ED At_D ADfiPTED EY 7HE LITY COUNCIL OF THE CI7Y OF FRIDlEY THIS 1M1iN
D}fY OF FEBRUARY, 1977. - •
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GI7Y CLERK - P�r1R13N C. 6RUVSELL
First Reading: February 7, 19�7
Second Aeading: February 14, 1477
Publish.......: february 24, 19)7
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Minneapolis, Minnesota 55432
South Off+ce S90•6510
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The ISorthwest 1/4 of the Southwest 1/4 of Section 2,
Township 30. Range 24, Anoka County, Minnesota,
except that part taken for State Highway No. 47.
except the South 284 feet o£ the West 460 feet and
except the West 460 feet lying northerly of the
South 660 ieet.
Robert Minder. Reg. E�. E.A. Fnthbun. Riy. S�no. lVm. E Prrc'e, R.g. 6t9 Gnry R. Harr'�s. Reg. Suro. Pvirr' J, Mnlmum. R�q. Fnp�.
Wm. f. Jensen. Rry. Eng. L:�illiom J. &ezinsAy, Rc9. E�. H. Willinm H�grrs. RrR� S��ro. Sn�ce A. Pale�san, Nea. En9. Rohnri E. Lund, Ney. E��y.
7haiws F. Duwh�w. Rrg. EiNj.
Planning Comnission �anuary 22, 1980
City Council
MAILING LIST
P.S.#80-01 East Ranch Estates 5tfi Addition
ZOA #80-01 Rezoning Request (5oth for Robert Schroerj
Ro6ert Schroer
7620 Un�versity Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Roger M. Jones
8371 Lower 138 Court
Apple Ya11ey, MN 55124
Viking Cfievrolet
7507 Highway #65 N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Ruth B. Finkelstein
2859 Aquila Avenue South
Minneapolis> Mn 55426
Bryant-Franklin Corporation
7921 Beech Street N.E.
fridley, Mn 55432
Park Construction Co.
7900 Seech Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Gerald P. 8ury
7479 Able Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
JS Realty
7000 57th Avenue North
Minneapolis, Mn 59428
P & K Properties
7000 57th Avenue North
Minneapolis, MN 55428
Raymond & Mary Jane Carlson
7875 Ranchers Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Graham Testers Inc.
7880 Ranchers Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Talco Inc.
7835 N.E. Main Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
City af Spring lake Park
1301 85th Avenue Nortfi
Spring Lake Park, Mn 55432
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BEFORE TNE
PLANNIP�G COMMISSIQN
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NOTICE IS HEREBY GiVEN that there wi71 be a Public Hearing of the Planning
Cortmission of the City of Fridley in the City Na11 at 6431 University Avenue
Northeast on Wednesday, February 6, 1980 in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M.
for the purpase of:
Consideration of a Rezoning Request,
ZOA #80-01, by Robert Schroer, to
rezone Lots 2, 3, 4 and 5, Block 3,
• and Lots 1, 2, 3, 4, 7 and S, Block
4, of proposed East Ranch Estates 5th
Addition, fror� �-2 (general Business
areasj to M-1 (light industrial areas),
located in the Northwest Quarter of
_ the Southwest Quarter of Section 2, T-30,
R-24, City of Fridley, County of Anoka,
Minnesota.
Generally located between 79th Avenue NE.
and Slst Avenue N.E.
Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above matter may be heard
at this time.
Pubtish: January 23, 1980
January 30, 1980
RICHARD H. HARRIS
CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSIQN
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FOR FAMILY RESOURCES
��"�TER �"'�'
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January 29, 19&0
Mayor'William Nee
City of Fridley �
6431 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Aear Mayor Nee and City Councfl:
On behalf of the Central Center for Family Resources,
we wish to express our appreciation for your conCribution
of $5,000 in support of our Center.
We will be sending you our quarterly report documenting
our services to date. We are pleased to report Chat 65
families have or are receiving counseling services at
our Center with 14 families on our waiting list. We
have contracted an additional counselor because of
Chis need for services.
We have conducted Family Education classes and work-
shops for 51 people and, in addition, have 17 people
scheduled for oux February class, and also have a waiting
list of 20 for a subsequent ciass.
It would be impossible £or us to offer these professional
services at Iow cost without the support of the cities
of Fridley, Spring Lake Park and Blaine and the organ-
i2ations who have responded to the need for this service.
If you have any £urther questions upon receipt of our
quarterly report, we would be happy to answer them.
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We appreciate Che time and attention we received
from the Fridley }iuman Relations Commission and the
Planning IIoard who recommended our project favorably,
as well as the input of the Fridley citizens who
are represented on our Boards.
Sincerely,
Lee Carlson, Project FacilfCator
Dean 0. 5abby, Director
Central Center for Family Resources
LC:DOS:jel
CC: Human Relations Commission
Planning Soard
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Bp VIC STONER two units in the Dakotas.
An area in Fridley near the The Fridley site is one oE five
FMC plant on East River Road is new sites NSP is looking a[. The
one of eight sites being con- remaining [hree sites are loca-
sidered by Northern States tions where tiSP now has power
Power (NSP) for a new coa]- plants. In addition to Fridley, the
tired power plant in the Twin new sites are Coon Rapids, Rose-
Cities. _ :: ��,;;__i.,mounE, Shakopee, and Cottage
Represensatives [rom' �iSP -'Grove. The existing sites are
btlefed members of the Metro- N5P's Riverside plant ia ll-Iinne-
polltan CounciPa Physicai De- apolis, the Black Dog plant in
velopment Committee Jan. 23, on Burnsville and :he High Bridge
ihe utility's fuwre energy neede plant in S[. Paul.
and how it proposes to meet those The Fridley site is the smaffest
needs. A oew 2�0-megawacc of the eight. It is just 90 acres,
(MW) coal-fired plant in the and its SraalI acreage is one of
metropulitan area is just one the wncerns NSP officials have
measure NSP will take to meet about the site. Other potential
its customer demand for etec- disadvantages include its prox-
tr3city: imity to Easl River Road causing
Members of the council heaM it to have high visibility from the
representatives project that by coad and aearby residential de-
1989 there will be a ganerati�g v�lopment.
deficit ot 85a ta i?00 M�V aftar Otherconcernsindudethedes-
the addition ot a new 800-biW ignation of the portion o( East
unit in the mid-1980's. To reduce River Road in Fridley as part of
the shortage, NSP is plaiming at the Great River Corridor, the
least one other 200-Mti4 plan[ in developmeni ot the Istands of
the metrapolitan area in the ear- Peace Park to the northwest and
ly 1990's, a 600-MFV coal-fired efforts to have areas along the
plant in Wisconsin in 1987 and riverturnedinto a regional park.
� Off➢cials pt NSP said tLey have
,_�,�_ been etudying locnting a piant in
tfie'metropolitan area becauae ot
some staie agencies' and pablic
interesL in loca[ing geoeratirtg
units cinse to [he area they serve
and 6ecause it woutd facitltate
develop�nen. of distriet heating
for residential or induetefal
neighborhoode. � � .
But the representatives •said
that NSP is uncertain at this time
whether a new coal-fired p(ant is
licensable in the Twin Cities
area, "but we are committee to
studying the possibility."
Each community within a 20-
mile radius of the Twin Citles
was studied far land availability
and facility layouts and environ-
men[al review for each area
have been completed. NSP ex-
pects to make final site selection
and begin preparing applications
to the proper state agencies in
the summer of [his year.
NSP tooked at tracts .ot land
that have a sufficientwater supp-
ly and access to a raii line or
barge facility so that fuel could
be delivered; in addition it
looked for sites in which environ•
mental and social impacts would
be minimized, according to the
representatives. � � ;
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ARCHITECTURE ENGIIJEk.RING PLANNING INTERIORS
Mayor, City of FridTey
City fiall
Fridley, Minnesota .55432
Dear Mayor;
January 4, 1g80
The Minneapolis-SainY Paul Metropolitan Airports Comrnission (MACj is preparing
a.master plan for future development at the Anoka CounCy-Blaine Airport, wiih
TP.A Airport Consultants coordinating the pla�ning.
A major goal of the study is to solicit and integrate local citizen concerns,
opinions, and input into the entire planning process. TRA has establishea a
broad citizen Qarticipatio� program tfiaL >>>ill insure both that the public will
be kept continually informed, and that public input can make a meaningfu4 contri-
bution to the master plan. A major comnonent of that program will be the worlc
of a Citizens Fdvisory Task Force, through a series of ten weeknight workshops
to be held over the next t�velve montfis. 1Je would like to invite you to designate
a Task Force representative from your city. .
In addition to designated representatives fram each adjacer�t city, the Task Force
will include numerous locat citizens who have aiready expressed interest. In
this manner participation by all communities ar.d interests �si;i Se insured.
TRA will a{sp ue periodically issuing nev�s]e.tters actd Yri �l hold thr.ee.large
public rneetinys and three informationai open houses at key points dur.ing tne
study. The meetings will Yecerd comments into the pubiic record, thereby �air.iag
input from the general pubiic.
The enclosures to tfiis letter contain further informatiQ� on the Task Force
workshop topics and schedute. The workshaps will 1�e informai workina sessions
and wilt encourage active participation by all members. Eecause of che iarge
number of tapics to be studied it �•�ill be essentiat that the workshops occur in
a consistent sequence, each buiiding on infornation presenled aY pre��iou; ti,ork-
shaps. Thus, Task Force membership necessarily requires a commitment to partici-`
pate throughouY the process.
Will you please return the enclosed card to iRA when you have designzted a
�epresentative. ThaC person vrill receive notific�±ion of the first workshop,
to be he7d aC 7:30 PM on Thersday, January 31, 19E0, aY the Social P.00m at
St. Timothy's Catholic Church in Blaine.
Thank yuu for your censideration. We look forward to working with you.
Sin erely yours,
C��� b/ ' �(�i/L�
rl l'. �o art, Ph.D.
Airport Planniny Director
[nclosures
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TNE CITIZENS ADVISOftY TASK FORCE
FOR TNE ANOKA COUNTY-6LA1NE AIRPORT
MASTER PLAN
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Introductio� .
The Minneapolis-Saint Paul Metropolitan Airports Commission (MAC) is
required to prepare long-range comprehensive plans for airports it
�.-.- operaYes in the metropolitan area. 11AC is carrying out that responsl-
^ bility by preparing a master plan for future devetopment at the Anoka
County-Blaine-AirQort. While MAC is obli9ated to plan the facility
respective of their responsibility to.the entire region, consistent .
with the Metropoiitan Development Guide, they clearly wish to formally
Incorporate:,locai public considerations into that decision..-
. TRA Airport Gonsultants has established a broad citizen participation
.. program that will ensure both that the public wiil be kept continualiy
fnformed, and-that public input can make a meaningful contribution �.:o
the master plan. .
Citizen Participation Goal
!- The goal of the overall public-participatien program is to provide the
--<_.-public tvith the i�formation necessary to understand the-current probiems
°,�-' and needs at.Anoka Gounty-Blaine Airport, and the possible aitarnative
solutions and their effects; and to encourage the public to e�aivate
atternative solutions and contribute to the development of a masYer
plan.
-7ask Force Role
A major component ai the program wilT be Che work of the Citizens Advi-
5ory iask Force. The Task Force will serve as the official citizens�
-�- group-insuring that all tocal citizens' concerns are represented and
�- -� considered in the master plan study. MAC wiil also be considering
comments from throughout the community, 6ut is particularly interested
in what the Task Force can contribute. ,,..
-.., -�While other spokesmen will be recognized, they will be encouraged to
sxpress their concerns through the forum of the 7ask Force. ,
Equally important as keeping MAC informed of public opinion, the Task
Force will be contributing constructive input to MAC's selection of..an
�-- alternative. This contribution will take severai forms, inciuding:
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Aiding in the evaluation�of the significance or imporLance of
the social and environmental impacCs;
Aiding in the evaluation of the celative impacCS and benefits
of each alternative;
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o .Suggesting priorities for proposed alCernatives;
o Aiding in the develoQment and evaluatio� of potential mitiga-
tion measures and implementation strategies.
TRA will work with the Task Force to frame concerns In terms of specific
technical project components, so that both 1�SAC and the Task Force can
See what actions or project changes wouid be required in order to improve
public acceptance.
Workshop Schedule
Workshops ], 2, 5. and 6 will be held on Thursday evenings in the
Social Room, St. TimoChy's Cathoiic Church, 70) -$9th Avenue NE, Blaine,
Minnesota (telephone: 784-1329)• The workshops will run from 7:30 P11 Co
approximately 10:00 PM. Workshop 3 will be held on a Tuesday evening
at the same location and time.
Workshops 4 and 7 wi11 be all-day (eight-hour} informal open houses
scheduled on eitfier Saturday or Sunday.' The open houses will Yake place
in an easily accessible pubiic location and will include graphic dis-
plays of the project components.and the Task F'orce's work. The Task
Force mem6ers will 6e present and wili be able to engage Yhe public in
tndividual discussions.
4lorkshops 8, 9, and t0 wiil be scheduled for sometime after MAC f�as
selected an alternative. They wiil review, ca�nment, and have input to
the detailed design oP whatever a]ternative is selected.
The dates and topics for the first seven worf:shops are as foilows:
WorMshop Date Topic
1 Jan. 3t, i980 Introduction to Citizen Participation
(Thursday) PPOCess; Public Issues and Concerns;
Master Plan Technical Analyses --
status.
2 Feb. 21, 1y80 Social Impact Issues:
(Thursday) Noise, Safety, Light Emissions,
others.
ldentify miti9ation measures.
3 March 11, 1480 Environmental lmpact lssues:
(Tuesday) Air Quality, Water Quality, -
� Soils, Vegetation, Kildlife,
Historic and Special Sites,
oYfiers
Identify mit+gation measures.
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�1 Weekend Public Open Nouse -- Saturday or Sunday
"' March 29-3�, 1980 " 4isplay and discuss individuaily
� with public social and environ-
" mental impacts.
5 April 3, 1980 Evaluate Aiternatives: -
(Thursday} • Compare all alternatives for all
• social and environmental impacts.
6-� April 17, 1980 Prioritize Alternatives _. "
(Thursday) . .- - -
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Weekend Public Open House -- Saturday or Sunday
May 3'k, �98� Display and discuss individually with
public work and conclusions of Task
Force.
Workshop Format
TRA planners wilt moderate ail workshops and discussion. Workshops wilt
open with a presentation by the TP.A planning staff of the pertinent
technical information for"the workshop topic. fhe presentation will
jd"entify the questions ant� concerns that have aiready been stated through-
the Cortununity Involvement Survey and Yhe first public meeting,.and will
attempt to provide infornative answers to as many yuestions as possible.
The 7ask force will then be divided into smaller groups �5`to 8 persons
per group}, each dealing with a soeci`ic aspect of the issue under
study. The smaller q��oups will be asked to frame concerns in terms of
major and minor concerns, and Yo develop specific technical.questions to
which they desire answers. The TRA planning staff will circulate among
grouos to help them do so. One member from each smaii group will serve
as a recorder and wiil keep notes on the major and miaor concerns and
'those camments nr questions to be put to MAC representing the 7ask Fat'ce
as a whole. •- -
After approximately 30 minutes, the entire Task Force will come back
-` to9ether. 'ifie recorder from each group will make a short verbal report
�*� to'the rest of the Task force on their major and minor concerns. At
•"" ?• this point discussion will be open among the entire Task Force. The ..
- °°planning staff will provide additional answers or information if possi6le.
At the end of the group reports, the entire Task Force will conclude as
to what unresalved questions and concerns should be directed to MAC.
At the conciusion of each wotkshop, the planning staff will briefly
� review the major unresoived concerns to be expressed to MAC, and wiil
"" also give a brief preview of the topic of the next workshop.
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HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MEETTNG
JANOARY 24, 1980
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Larry Comners called the January 24, 1980, Housing and Redevelopment
Authority meeting to order at 7:31 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Larry Commers, Russell Houck, Elmars Prieditis,
Carolyn Svendsen, Duane Prairie
Members Absent: None
Others Present: .Terrold Boardman, City Planner
Mary Cayan, Human Services Assistant
Nasim Qureshi, City Manager
Mayor Bill Nee
Cheryl Moses, City Council
Dennis Schneider, City Council
Marvin Brunsell, Finance Director
Mervin Herrmann, City Assessor
Dean Doyscher, Professional Planning & Development, Mankato
International Multi-Housing, Inc. - Developers
JoinC Venture Developers
APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 13, 1979, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES;
MOTION by Mr. Houck, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to approve the December 13, 197°,
Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes as written. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Chairperson Commers declared the motion carried unanimous2y.
1. CENTER CITY REDEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS:
A. INTERVIEW WITH INTERNATiONAL MULTI-HOUSING, INC, - DEVELOPERS:
Mr. Doyscher stated Chis was kind of the culmination and the beginning.
tFp [o this point, they had done some strategies in terms of es[ablishing
some financial feasibility, putting the district together, giving them-
selves the authority to act in a district, and inviting proposals. The
thing that appeared very obvious to him was that when you invite [he
private marketplace to show s�e designs, these designs are frequently
much better and more real than it is when you try to set up a11 kinds of
design standards.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING JANUARY 24 1980 - PAGE 2
Mr. Doyscher stated his recomnendation to the Authority was that, as they
hear the presen[ations, they be prepared to ask questions and get some
background knowLedge. The decision is going to be a difficult one to make.
Mr. Boardman introduced Mr. Jerry Remmer, President of International
Multi-Housing, Inc. (IMI).
Mr. Re�ner stated he would Like to thank the Authority for the opportanity
to present theiz proposal. He introduced the members of his staff--
Mr. Frank Hirons, Vice President of IMI; David Russ, President of Real
Estate Professionals; and Gary MacKenzie, architect and architectural
consultanC. He stated that Mr, MacKenzie would begin with the architectural
conceptions and the plans they have, and then would open it up for questions.
Mr. MacKenzie stated they viewed the City's proposed renewal area as one
renewal project with many phases, rather than several new projects. The
area has tremendous potential, but for this area to be fully realized, they
felt one development team should be designated for reconstruction. Their
proposal eucompasses the developmenr of all six parcels and, in addition,
they envision the potential for undesignated development.
Mr. MacKenzie stated that at the beginning when they were studying the
renewal area, it was apparent to them that there was a very physical split
between east and west, which is IIniversity Avenue, In discussions with
city staff, they were in concurrence with the uses that should occur. It
was their opinion that the east side of University Avenue should be developed
along office, civic, and entertainment uses, and Che west side, since there
is an existing center, should be developed into an additional center which
would incorporate many of the tenants into larger and new facilities. They
feel this service center should at some time be remodeled to a service
center and that the grocery story, drugstore, and retail services be located
in a new center.
Mr. MacKenzie stated that it also became appazent to them that for the
success of any type of development with University Avenue cutting it in
half and with the tremendous amount of traffic generated on IIniversity
Avenue,something had to be done with the vehicular circulation to get the
peop2e in and out of the project site. It was their proposal that the north-
bound traffic on University Avenue be rerouted, if possible, with a
controlled intersection to the east on 61st Ave., up Sth St., this being a
major vehicular loop, and that a11 the access to the current City Hall,
proposed office and entertainment structures be off of Sth St. They propose
that ail their parking be underground with some surface and above-ground
parking, but with ali parking being accessible to Sth St. This loop could
continue with a controlled intersection at Mississippi Ave. and Sth St.,
going westerly to the controlled intersection at University and Mississippi,
create another controlled intersection at the westerly end of the new
shopping complex and existing shopping complex.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, JANUARY 24, 1980 - PAGE 3
Mr. MacKettzie stated that, in addiCion, with Che potential of ali the
people that can be employed in one area and with all the people being
potential shoppers at a commercial area, there has to be some means
considered to connect the people on Che east side of University with the
people on the west side of University. Their proposal is that a shuttle
Uus-type of service be strongly considered. This shuttle bus would have
a central drop position aC the civic complex/office complex area, come
to the Mississippi St. area, proceed westerly with a drop-off spot at the
existing Holly Center, another drop-off spot at the new proposed shopging
center, out onto University Ave., back to blst Ave., and east again to
Sth St. He did not know the exact mechanics far a shuttle bus service,
but he thought a levy on some o£ the commercial properties would be a
possibility for subsidization o£ the operation of it, possibly mass transit
would be interested, or any number of other possibiliCies. They were
looking at around 1,500-2,000 automobiles, and it makes sense for a person
to be able to arrive at one of the three major parking locations and be
able to leave the automobile and use the shuttle bus service to arrive at
any of the other points within Che development.
Mr. MacKenzie stated that as to the actual proposal on each of the parcels,
the City has designaCed Phase 1 to be the southeast intersection of
University Ave. and Mississippi SC. They were in agreement with that.
Their proposal was to develop on that parcel an office complex varying
in height from 1-3 stories and c�ntaining approximately 107,000 sq. ft.
Their proposal is also that the total site have a one-story underground
parking facility, and Chat parking facility would accommodate approximately
448 automobiles. They propose, in conjunction with or at some subsequent
stage, this underground parking facility be extended under what is now
Eisenl�ower Park to provide additional parking for the office facility and
for the employees of City Hall. Currently, the city site accommodates
about 75 parking stalls, and they feel a reasonable estimation woutd be
100 stalls for use by the city, and that is cahat they are proposing. They
also propose that in the future, tney build an additional three levels
above grade stepped back thaC would accommodate anethe'r 200i- parking
stalls, accommodating approximately 1,000 automobiles in this area.
Mr. MacKenzie stated that once they established 107,000 sq. ft. of office
space with people occupying that space and a city canplex with its
numerous employess, they are proposing that they would perhaps have enough
people to generate an entertainment center at the south end. This could
contain a large resCaurant (liquor/nightciub type of theme), a full service
coffee shop, and theatres. To get people from the office complex and the
city hall complex, they are proposing a cLimate-controlled pedestrian
thoroughfare. They envision the thoroughfare could streCCh from Phase 4,
the northern-most designated renewal property, a11 the way down to and
including Phase 5, mostly climate-controlled,
Mr. MacKenzie stated they propose also that the structure located north
of Mississippi be a future three-story commercial office building con-
taining approximately 85,000 sq. ft., and that it be tied into the existing
first-phase strucCure with a skyway over Mississippi. This skyway could
HOUSING & REDEVELOYMENT AUTHORITY MEETING JANUARY 24 1980 - PAGE 4
have some commercial use, perhaps a cafeteria or another eating establish-
ment. They have established that the 1,000 par[cing stalls would be more
than sufficient to serve this 85,000 sq, ft. of office space, the 107,000
sq, ft. office complex, City Hall, and the entertainment complex.
Mr. MacKenzie stated he saw the pedestrian spine connecting with Fridley
State Bank and could be covered to that point. If the bank would ever
want to have a second-story expansion, they could then continue to main-
tain a totally enclosed pedestrian-way across their service lot and over to
Phase 6. For practical purposes at this time, they have 3ndicated that the
pedestzian-way come into grade at the Fridley State Bank and then continue
open-air with some kind of landscaped plaza, through the parking lot,
across 63rd Ave. to Phase 6. A possible use for Phase 6 would be a sports
and health club or health spa and space for limited pazking. The spine
then continues to Phase 5. They see the property west of Phase 5, which
now conYains a service center (Moon Plaza) as a possible expansion of the
renewal area, because they feel that the estsblishment of a remodeled service
center wi11 probably draw many of the tenants out of the Moon Plaza area.
They see perhaps an expanded Phase 5 which would expand all the way from
Sth St. to University. This covld contain a single tenant office facility
with underground parking and some type of multi-family residential facility
with underground parking.
Mr. MacKenzie stated that west of Univezsity (what the City has labeled
Phase 3) would contain roughly 110,Q00 sq. ft. for the Penny's Food Markat,
Snyders Drug, and a relocated Eridley Hardware. They also propose a small
family restaurant located in the parking lot.
Mr. MacKenzie stated they have indicated a strong pedestrial cirulation
pattern on the easY side of University connecting all their uses. They have
not indicated atty solution to a pedestrian circulation pattern east/west
across University. They couZd live with an overhead pedestrian bridge,
but from experience, people don't use them too much. That is the reason
for the proposed shuttle bus service.
Mr. MacKenzie stated that right now the City has a problem getting fire
access onto southbound University Ave, They are proposing the relocation
of the Fire Department in the ramp structure, so they could have direct
access to Sth St. and easy access to a controlled intersection. They would
suggest that the vacated space by the Fire Department be expansion space
for City Hall. However, they have also indicated expansion space for City
Ha11 directly south of the existing structure.
Mr. MacKenzie stated they are proposing to replace Eisenpower Park with
an earth surface over the parking facility that would be sufficient to
support plant growth and Iandscaping materials. On Phase 2, they are
proposing that a very big percentage of the property be left green for
pedestrian use.
Mr. MacKenzie stated they were now open to answering questions.
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Mr. Prieditis asked Mr. MacKenzie to outline the phases as Che developer
saw them built.
Mr. MacKenzie stated that they agreed wiCh the City's proposal on Phase 1
and would be ready to begin immediately on Phase l. At the same time,
Chey would like to begin the acquisition process of the other parcels.
The developer would prefer to go from Phase 1 to Phase 3 and to Phase 4
as the demand arises, then to Phase 2 and Phases 5 and 6 as the demand
arises.
Mayor Nee asked how many of the present structures would be removed.
Mr. MacKenzie stated that with the Holly Center, they would like to work
with the existing owner to renew modest expansion and perhaps include some
type of enclosed pedestrial route. In their opinion, what is designated
as Phases 1, 2, and 4 will be razed, and everything in the area of Fridley
Hardware, including Fridley Hardware will be taken off. All they see
remaining on the east side of University is the existing City Hall, the
Fire Department, Fridley State Bank, Northern Cablevision, and the Rice
Creek Office Buildling. They are reallp talking about total reconstruction.
Mr. Schneider asked if any residential housing was in the proposal.
Mr, MacKenzie stated that possibly there would be residential housing in
Phase 5. They think the need will show itself as the development proceeds
for multiple family residential--coop or condo, but they have no idea of
figures.
Mr. Schueider asked if there was any kind of timeline for this proposal.
Mr. Hirons stated they have made quite a few contacts of possible tenants
for this property and are excited about the ineerest. He stated eheir
basic concept is to help Fridley develop a community center. This world
of transporation and highways has dictaeed the shape of communities, but
the fact remains thae people still feel they want their home in a
community and to feel a part of that community. So, they have tried to
use this philosophy and they feel the community of Fridley will benefit
greatly and will attract people and business if there is this sense of
community. He stated that later on they could talk more about the design
and how they would build the community. As far as phasing and timing,
that depended on several factors, one being the economic facCOr--how
quickly sane of this property can be used. It was difficult at this time
to give a direce schedule of time, but they would cerCainly move as fast
as the demand was there.
Mr. MacKenzie stated that Mr. Hirons had brought out an important fact
and that was that this was a concept. They feel very sCrongly about the
use they have designated, but at this time it is strictly concept.
HOUSING & I2EDEVELOPMETIT AUTHORITY MEETING .TANUARY 24 1980 - PAGE 6
Mr. Hfrons stated he also wanted to make it clear that they were very
much ittterested in working with the coimnunity in the development and
design and were open and pliable in terms of a2tering or changing in
order to meet the best interests of the community. When the best interests
of Fridley are met in this whole program, then their best interests are met.
So, it is important to have as many people involved as possible.
Ms. Moses stated that in looking at the drawing, she had the feeling there
was very Iittle left that started out being in Fridley. She was not totally
prepared for redevelopment to that extent. Her concern was for the business
people in those areas and how cooperative these people are going to be
when it is suggested their buildings be removed. Are these people in favor
of this? -
Mr. MacKenzie stated they did not know. It was their opinion that,
assuming rents aren't drasticaLly increased, the majority of the existing
business people will relocate in a new facility. They would want the
business people's input and would work with those business people. The
major thing is to try to get the project organized and try and get the
full poCential out of the existing property. The full potential then
brings a larger return for the city and makes the city more able to supply
the services the citizens expect.
Ms. Moses asked if the bvsiness geople would be justiy c�pensated for
relocation.
Mr. Boardman stated that, yes, they would be justly comgensated. If the
City condemns, the city is required under any federal action or any governt-
ment action to pay relocation costs and all moving costs. They would
attempt to relocate as many of the businesses back into the business area
as possible and would work toward that.
Mayor Nee cited the concern about the traffic volume that would be
generated on a residential street.
Mr. Boardman stated they would have [o do a lot of work with the developer
to see what is needed to handle that icind of traffic, The one thing that
has to be understood is that if the City of Fridley wants to develop this
area and increase density, which is what the total concept was in the
beginning, they are going to increase traffic, It was a matter of how
they want to deal with it, control that tra£fic, and try to limit the affect
on the people surrounding the area.
Mr. Prieditis asked if IMI had any previous experience with [his type of
project.
Mr. Re�er stated, no, not as a unit. They currently have a$10 million
pro,jecC under construction in St. Louis Park in conjunction with the
St. Louis Park Housing & Redevelopment Authority, They are just finalizing
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING JANUARY 24, 198� - PAGE 7
another purchase of $S million in St. Louis Park. Their associates are
in the process of constructing $lz million office complex that will eventually
be $5-6 million. This is also being done under industrial revenue bond
financing with the City of Eden Prairie. Their particular development
group has been associated for 1? years and currently has $112 million under
construcC3on, has achieved financing of $17 million"and has another $llmillion
on the drawing boards,
Mr. Doyscher asked if IMI would be willing to do Phase 1 only.
Mr. Remmer stated it was possible, but they would like to have time to
consider that alternative,
Mr. Doyscher asked that if IMI was selected, would they be willing to
commit to each one of the phases,not only in terms of legal agreements,
but also in terms of periodic and scheduled cash payments to the city,
payments that would be forfeited if they did not perform?
Mr. Remmer sCated that there were a lot of unanswered questions, and they
would want those questions answered before they would commit to that. They,
as a development team, have made a total commitment to the project. They
are open to discussion in firming up that commitment. They are very sincere
and have spent a great deal of time and money toward the development. They
are willing to commit additional time and money into the developmenC.
But, they would hesitate to commiC Co a deposit-type of thing. The money
market is very tight. They have very strong credit lines and their financial
statements would be open to the City as the chosen developer or prior to
that. They also have additional individuals who would like to come in to
the project with them with heavy financial statements.
Mr. Doyscher asked what per square foot construction costs were they
talking about in terms of office space for Phase 1?
Mr. MacKenzie stated it was about $40/sq: ft. for office space and
$2�-25/sq. ft. £or underground space.
Mr. MacKenzie stated thaC in terms of what they, as developers, would want
from Che City, they would need the cooperation of the city staff in trying
to handle the traffic flow. If Sth St. does become a major vehicular
spine and has to be upgraded, they would expect the City to provide them
with Che means for the access to the site. They would also expect
utilities to the sites that would accommodaee the buildings. When they
determine they need a controlled intersection at Mississippi and Sth St „
they would need the cooperation from the City on that.
Mr. Doyscher stated that, in terms of office space, were they talking
about insCitutional office usezs?
Mr. Re�ner stated that the bulk of the office space would be'institutional.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING JANUARY 24 1980 - PAGE 8
Mr. Schneider asked that as the energy crisis geta worse and people are
looking more at mass transit, was it wise to plan around such a heavy
use of the automobileY
Mr. MacKenzie stated they would be phasing and are not looking at this
being completed within the next 2-3 years. He thought the next 2-3 years
would dicta[e a lot of the private automobile usage. He would think that
if they went ahead with the first phase and did huild in 448 parking staiis
and at some future date, they see the demand is not there, they can either
forget the parking or make some other use for thac space.
Mr. Commers thanked PIr. Remmer, Mr. Hirons, Mr. Russ, and Mr. MacKenzie
for coming and giving their proposal. He stated the Authority would give
it their best consideration.
Chairperson Commers declared a ten-minute recess at 9:15 p.m.
B. INTERVIELi WITH JOIN'C VENTURE DEVELOPERS:
Mr. Boardman introduced Mark Haggerty and asked him to introduce his
development team.
Mr. Haggerty stated that they were here tonight to make their presentation
to the City. He stated he was with the firm of Smith, Juster, Feikema,
Malmon & Haskvitz. With him tonight from the architectural firm which is
one of the partners of Joint Venture Developers were Mr. Saul Smiley and
Mr. John Suzuki, architects. Also with him is Mr. Gary Holmes, who works
very closely with Sheehy Construction and is a developer himself with
M-M Development Corp. He stated that he had given the Authority members
a list of the four partners--Smiley Glotter Associates; Smith, Juster,
Feikema, Malmon & Haskvitz; Sheehy Construction Co.; and M-M Development
Corp.--with addresses and contact persons.
Mr. Haggerty stated he would give a little background on who they were
and how the partnership was put together. Two years ago they had the
first meeting of the businessmen in the area that was subsequently desig-
nated as the Center City Project area and also designated as an HRA tax
increment district. They decided they would like to see a center city in
Fridley. As they developed further and the legislation was passed last
spring, the law firm of Smith, Juster, Feikema, Malmon & Haskvitz decided
they definitely wanted to make a proposal. They contacted Smiley Glotter
Associates, which has 25 engineers and architects and has been in business
for 35 years. Smiley Glotter Associates has not only the developers and
designers, but has the capability of doing just about everything from the
preliminary plan al2 the way up to the supervision of actual construction.
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Mr. iIaggerty stated they decided they needed to have as parC of the group
a strong well-known financially solvent construction company. ThaC is
where Sheehy Construction and M-M Devalopment Corp. came inCo the picture.
Sheehy Construction has been around for over 25 years and the slide
presentation will show a number of the projects they have built. The slide
presentation will also show a number of projects thaC Smiley Glotter Assoc.
has been involved in, and, in some cases, has actually developed. A number
of the ideas and concepts shown on the screen are ideas they hope to
incorporate in the structures they would design and build if they are
given the opportunity.
Mr. Haggerty stated Chat Gary Holmes, who works very closely with Sheehy
Construction, has developed a numUer of projects himself, again soa�e of
these will be shown in the slide presentation. Mr. Holmes has worked for
Sheehy ConsCruction for over ten years, and actually owns a couple of
developments. Mr. Holmes was involved in the construction of the Earle
Brown Towers, as was Sheehy Construction. Mr. Smiley's fi� designed and
were the architects for Unity liospital.
Mr, Haggert stated that his law firm has been in the community for a number
of years. He and his partner, Mr. A1 Malmon, CPA, have had a tremendous
amount of experience in increment financing, tax exempt mortgages, industrial
revenue bonds, and things like that. He feels their development team nas
a wealth of experience and a wealCh of expertise to develop the psoject.
Mr. Haggerty stated that Mr, Smiley would give a slide presentation showing
the projects they have worked on before, jointly or individually, and would
explain the site plan for their prczposal. Mr. Holmes would be talking
about the marketing aspect.
Mr. Smiley stated that as they brainstormed to arrive at an outlined
program, they began to see Che possibilities of a center core that would
really hover totally around City Hall, In developing that program, they
thought offices, shops, specialty shops, restaurants, and a theatre would
be logical generators for an exciting center. Again, they thought it
would be great if it was accessible by car, by pedestrian, and was con-
tained under a singular roof. BeFore going into their approach to the
development, he would like to show a slide presentation of samplings of
projects they have done which are in all areas of development and construc-
tion, ranging from office buildings to housing to shopping centers,
commercial, industrial, institutional, etc., to show some flavor of the
work of Joint Venture partners and their capabilities in doing work that
is imaginative, exciting, attractive, and to meet the economy and budgets
as desired,
Mr. Smiley showed their site plan, bordered by the frontage road or
University Ave, to the west, Sth St. to the east, Pfississippi St, to
the norCh, and the bank property to the south. This area is represented
as Phase 1 and 2 in the City's proposal. They are breaking it up inCo
three parts and propose to develop it in three phases, rather than two.
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Mr. Smiley staked they expect to utilize Phase I, as identified in the
proposal, in its entirety. They would propose an office building only
with 72,000 sq, ft. and surface parking for 300 cars. They would have
access for public transpoxtation off Mississippi 5t, and a curb cut to
allow for public transportation. There would be parking entered from
Sth St. or from Mississippi St. At Mississippi it would be entered at
grade level. Off of Sth St, it woula go down hill to Che level of the
grade of the poLice entrance at City Hall, and that would be the lower
level of the o£fice building. The continuation of the center wouZd be
Phase 2 and Phase 3.
Mr. Smiley stated they are proposing an office towez-to the north connected
with a two-story level of shops, restaurants, theatre, and other use spaces
connecting to the city parking ramp. From there they would be able to go
through a continuation of shops through Phase 3 that would come across to the
other side of the site and to the last o£fice tower.
Mr. Smiley stated there would an approach to City Hall from the frontage
road with a drop-off in front of City Ha11 or there would be the same drive-
through for the emergency vehicles fran the frontage road or from Sth.St.
to be able to go underneath the shops and be able to park in a coumion
parking lot, which would be marked off for emergency vehicies, and would
be parking for patrons of the center. They view that as an atea where
they would be able to provide specialty shops, sundry shops, boutiques,
restaurant, theatre, and other activities of that nature, in larger and
smaller spaces at levels throughout the center.
Mr. Smiley state3 there is the possibility of the Fire Department vacating
the westerly building. If it did, that was something that could ultimately
be incorporated in the handling of the parking area aad the emergency
vehicles with a complete separation so there was no crass interference
of those vehicles.
Mr. Holmes stated in going about an undertaking of this type, one important
thing was the economics, More importantly, they feel they have a viable
project and, in doing so, they would start one phase at a time. In doing
the first phase, they would start with the 72,000 sq, ft. office building.
They have talked to 4-5 major companies who have expressed interest.
They have received strong znterest for 25-3�/ of the buiZding. At the
same time, they wouLd concentrate on getting the retail users and would
phase the retail space as they could develop it.
Mr, Haggerty stated some of the key factors of the whole program are the
numbers. He reviewed the Tax Revenue figures (contained in the proposal
books) with the members of the Authority. He stated he was trying to
show the economic sense of tax increment financing and tax exempt mortgages
which would give them the construction financing, as well as the permanent
Einancing.
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Mr. Haggerty stated that for their permanent finance selection, they
have gone to underwriters in the community. They have received firm
offers to underwrite this entire project through tax exempt mortages.
So, they do have the construction financing lined up and the permanent
financing lined up for the of£ice building.
Mr. Smiley stated that relative to the size and scope of the project,
they have divided it into three parts and have approached it from the
standpoint of parcel by parcel. They do not Chink it is realistic to
come in with any huge undertaking or the entire project in one fa11 swoop.
As it generates and develops, they anticipate going through the total
project over ehe years, and it, too, is going to reflect on a surrounding
development as we11, but it has to build momentum.
Mr. Haggerty stated there was some discussion about a parking ramp and
maybe trying to install it in the first phase. One of the problems Chey
saw was that the parking ramp itself would cost approximately $3,500-4,000
per car. Under the existing city code, for every 250 sq, ft. of building
space, there has Co be a parking stall. The ground level is very cheap
and the Phase 1 site lends itself to ground level parking and the exact
number of parking spaces required under city code. �hey felt that to build
a xamp at the same time was not economically feasible at this phase of the
game. They have limitaeions as far as the type of bonding they can do,
as far as the dollars go. There is a$10 million limitation, and they
are looking at $3-4 million in bonding. They did not want to use up all
the resources for the entire city in one fall swoop, and their group thought
the ramp would be more feasible docm the road when they develop a larger
portion of the property.
Mr. Boardman asked what they saw as the ultimate amount of parking stalls
they would need for the development.
Mr, Holmes stated thexe would probably be a toeal of approximately 1,300
parking stalls in both Phase 1 and all of Phase 2.
Mr. Haggerty stated that it should be emphasized that they would be
designing this with the amenities, the fountains, the green areas, the
aesthetics, to compensate for a loss of the actual park.
Mr. Suzuki staCed there also could be some flexibility with the ramp
parking. They could take some of the surface parking out and add some
more ramp parking if they saw the need for more green space,
Mr. Prairie asked what the time frame was. '
Mr. Haggerty stated that, realistically, they were talking about ten
years to complete all three ghases, the City`s two phases.
Mr. Doyscher asked if they had approached potential tenants and what kind
of tenants were they talking about.
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Mr. Haggerty stated that they had about four major industries in Fridley
that had given serious interest. A certain portion of the tenants would
be smaller businesses, but a major portion of them would be major industries
within the area.
Mr. Doyscher asked if Toint Venture Developers would be willing to do
Phase 1 only?
Mr. Haggerty stated they had not considered that and would like the
commitment for the City's Phases I and 2, They did not at this time
envision developing Ho11y Center.
Mr. D�yscher asked that if Joint Venture Developers was selected, would
they be willing to make cash payments to the City, payments that would be
forfeited if they did not performY
Mr. Haggezty stated it was something they could negotiate. Obviously,
they would prefer not to do that, but if it was part of the program, they
would certainly take a look at it. One condition he would want to put
on it was that any payments they would make could be used during the con-
struction phase as a contribution to equity and the actual structure,
rather than just paying.
Mr. Commers thanked Mr. Haggerty, Mr. Smiley, Mr. Aolmes, and Mr. Suzuki
for their presentation.
C. SET MEETING DATE FOR REVIEW OF TWO PROPDSALS:
Mr. Boardman stated he would like to set up another meeting, possibZy as
a selection meeting. At that meeting, he wouid like the Authority to
select one developer so they could start negotiations.
Mr. Commers stated he had a problem with making a selection at the next
meeting. He wwld first like to see something in writing as to what
main things should be considered.
Ms. Svendsen stated she would like to see some financial check on the
two developers' references.
Mr. Boardman stated he and Mr. Doyscher would have to sit down and look
at each project as i.t compared to the �oay the tax increment development
was initia2ly developed to see the consistency to that plan. They would
also look at the pros and cons of the types of developments being
proposed and whether they feel these developments can be workable.
Mr. Doyscher stated he fett the next meeting should be just a discussion
meeting.
The meeting was set for Tuesday, .7anuary 29, 1980, at 7:30 p.m.
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2. RESOLUTION APPROVING INITIAL NEGOTIATION FOR ACQUTSITION OF 6025 3RD ST,
Mr. Boardman stated that at the last HRA meeting, the Authority had passed
Resolueion No. HRA-4 authorizing the acquisition of 5832 University Ave, N.E.,
properey of Vern 3ohnson. This resolution is for the acquisition of the
Parlin property which the City is .also negotiating.
Mr. Boardman stated thaC with this negotiation, the City had some discrepancy
in their appraisal. The first appraisal came in at $22,500. The review
appraiser felt that appraisal was low and that the appraisal range should be
between $23,000 and $27,000. They told the Parlin's Chat if they weren't
satisfied with the City's appraisal, they could get an appraisal on their own.
The Parlin's did and their appraisal came in at $29,000. The City had another
review appraisal done on that, and the review appraisal came in at $26,500.
Mr. Boardman sCated they talked to RUD aad were approved to make an of£er on
the property. He stated that with attorney fees, condemnation costs, inflation
costs, etc, Chey have negotiated a purchase price of $29,491.$8.
Mr. Commers stated it did not seem right that the City's original appraisal
should be off about 3�i or more. He stated this was the second time it had
happened. If the City is going to be hiring appraisers, they have to rely on
them in some way. When the City continuously seeks ways to meet the iniCial
appraisal of the other people, he was not sure they were doing everything in
the best interests of the City.
Mr. Boardman stated that it was not necessarily Cheir intent Co meet that
appraisal price an the other property. They knew there were substantial
assessments on the property, and that was the point of negotiation.
Mr. Boardman stated that regarding the property at 6025 3rd St., Lhere are
several things involved. First of all, it is a very substandard pieee of
property. The family living there are living under what the City considers
hazardous conditions. The City has inspected the unit for a potential rehab
project under another program. What their consideraCion was at that time
was that the unit was substandard and not rehabilitaCory.and should be condemned.
Mr. Boardman stated the whole purchase program was based on removing substandard
units and trying to provide standard units for large family units. This unit
is probably one of the worst units within the c�ry of Fridley. If it is not
purchased under this program, one action the City might have to take is to
get a signed waiver from the owner stating that the City is not held liable
for any damages or any hazard. Since the City has inspected the unit, Che
unit should have been condemned.
Mr. Coc�cners asked why the City doesn't take the normal channels in condemning
it--tagging it, and making the ownar either bring it un to code or making
the owner move out.
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Mr. Boardman stated that had been discussed and che City Attorney did not
think that would 6e the pxoper way to go. When this program was approved,
it was approved with the condition that there would be no condemnation action.
They had talked to the Parlin's about the rehab program, and when thaC wasn't
possible, they told them there may be a purchase program that couZd help them.
So, the City Attorney advi.sed that instead of taking condemnation acxion, they
try to work them into the purchase program. Now that they have tried, they
have delayed six months on tagging since the initial inspection. Now if the
City comes back and says they can`t negotiate a purchase price and are now
goi_ng to take the legal steps to tag the property, they may run into negative
publicitg as far the Housing & Redevelopment Authority is concerned.
Mr. Boardman stated that if the City purchases the property, the City has to
relocate this family. They have inspected the unit that the family wants to
move into in Blaine, and it falls within the standards f.or comparable housing.
In addition to the $29,000, there are Federal HUD requirements of $15,000 for
relocation costs.
MOTION by Mr. Houck to adopt Resolution No. HRA-5.
THE MOTION DIED FOR LACK QF A SECOND.
Mr. Boardman asked that since the resolution had failed, what direction did
the Authority want him to take? Did they want him to negotiate farther down
on the price or stop negotiations at this time and [ry to locate another piece
of property for acquisition?
Mr. Couaners stated it was his feeling that Mr. Boardman should repart back to
the owr.er of the property that the Authority was unable to pass the resolution
and discuss with the owner any other options other than the one presented.
If anything else can be worked out in the meantime, the Authority could look
at it at the next meeting. If the owner is adament in his position, then he
thought it would be necessary for the City to look for another project.
The other members of the Authority agreed with Mr. Cocrmiers.
3. SELECTION CRITEKIA FOR LARGE FAMILY LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSING:
A. Set up recommended procedure for approval:
Mr. Boardman stated that under the same program, they have negotiated
and gotten signed purchase agreements with Vern Johnson, 5832 University
Ave. N.E. In Che next 2-3 months, they wi11 be tearing those structures
down. At this point, tfiey want to start working to try and find families'
that are eligiUle for the program and start working with the 265 units.
In order to do that, they were bringing before the Authority what they
felt should be the "Selection Procedure for the Large Family Home Ownership
Program."
HOUSING & RL'DEVELOPMENT AVfHORITY MEETING JANUARY 24 1980 - PAGE 15
Mr. Boardman staCed that Co meeC the HUD requirements the grant was
provided under, Chey are looking at large family classifications only--
a family size of 5 or more persons. The income must be verified to
fall wiChin the Section 8 income guidelines as outlined by HUD. The
family must meet the qualifications of the 235-265 Program administrated
by AUD, as a maximum construction cost of $52,800 and with a maximum
mortgage allowed of $44,000
Mt. Boardman stated the selection of families would be done by the
Authority on a first-come/first-serve basis and be numbered as the
applicants are received. They felt Chis was Che best way to go, and
felt they would hinder the program if there was a deadline or cut-off
date. He stated that in order to find and gee qualified people, it
could be a 7-9 month process.
Mr. Prieditis stated his concern was that along with the first-come/
first-serve basis in paragraph 4, it be amended to state ehaC the
families must also apply in person.
Mr. Boardman stated that couLd be added in.
MOTION by Mr. Prieditis, seconded by Mr. Houck, to adopt Che "Selection
Procedure for the Large Family Home Qcanership Program" as amended. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Ghairperson Commers declared the motion
carried unanimously.
The Authority also agreed to delete the words, "with review and approval
of HRA'� in paragraph 5.
AATOURNMENT:
Chairpezson Larry Commers declared the January 24, 1980, Housing & Redevelopment
Authority meeting adjourned at 12:05 a.m.
Respectfully sub iitted,
L e Saba
Recording Secretary
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` j CITY OF FRIDLEY
` � PLANNiNG CONAIISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 6, 1980
CALL TO ORDEB:
Chairperson H�rris called the Fehruary 6, 1980, Planning Commission meeting
to order at 7:35 p.m.
80LL CAI,L:
Members Present: Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenfels, Mr. Hora (for Mr. Langenfeld),
Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes, Ms. Schnabel
Members A,baent: None
Others Present: Jerrold Soardman, City Planner
&ob Schroer, 810Q University Ave. N.E.
Roger Jones, 7620 University Ave. N.E.
Warren Johnson, Northern States Power
APPROVAL OF JAN[JARY 23, 1980, PLANNiNG COMMISSION MLNVfES:
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to approve the
3anuary 23, 1980, Planning Commission minutes.
tds. Schnabel stated that the following changes should be made:
Page 2, last paragraph, add the following sentence: "The other possibility
would be a renewal fee."
Page 4, third paragraph from bottom, second 1ine, delete "normally would be"
and insert, "possihly could be". She also wanted Co point out in that
same paragraph that, "There always is an appeals process even if something
is written into the ordinance."
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON HARRIS DECLARED THE M?NUTES
APPROVED AS AMENDED,
1.
UNIVEBSITY II�IDUSTRIAI. PARK,BY ROBERT SCHROER: Replat of the NW 114 of
the SW 1/4 of Section_2, T-30, R-24, City_of Fridley, Mn, Anoka County,
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except that part taken for State Highway No. 4�; except tne South 284
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feet oY the Weat 460 feet and except_the West 60 feet lying northerly
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of the south 666 feet. Generally located betweea 7ytn Avenue and
81st Avenue N.E., on the West side of University Avenue.
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to open the public hearing for
P-,$,;9i80-01, by RoberC Schroer. Upon a voice vote; all vcting apea Chairman Harris
�ared the nu�lin hearing open at 7:40 P.M , �
PLANNING COTAtLSSION MEETING FEBRUARY 6, 1980 PAGE 2
Mr. Boardman stated that SCaff had looked at this proposed p1at, .and there
are several things within this plat that should be put into the record. All
the easements are recorded on this plat, but some easements are missing on
an ex#sting water line along TH 47, so a 20-foot easement should be shown on
the plat along that sewer line. That comes in on Block 1, Lot 1, and Block 2,
Lot 1.
Mr. Boardman stated that with Block 3, Lot 1, which is a ccmmercial property,
and B1ock 4, Lot 1 and 8, which are shown as M-1, they may have the same
problem here as they had with the Paschke property where the setback on
industrial properYy has to be 100 feet off any commercial property. It may
give some problems as far as the setback for building. They may want to do
the same thing they did with Mr. Paschke and that is, along with the plat, to
recommend that a variance be granted stating that all loading and parking be
in the rear yard.
Mr. Boardman stated they have not yet rec.eived any drainage plans as far as
ponding or stormwater run-off, so that should be a stipulation under the
building permit.
Mr. Boardman stated that in this plat, it shows S1sC Ave. on the north. He
stated they have had a discussion with the genEleman just north of this
property who owns the driving range and is not happy with 81st Ave, going in.
However, Staff feels 81st should at least connect to Ranchers Road; whether it
go through to Main St. at this time probably is not necessary. If 81st Ave.
was not tied into Ranchers Road, they would have to deadend Ranchers Road,
which is not a good situation, and the Engineering Department would prefer to
see it attached at that point.
Mr. Harris asked how they would handle the ponding.
Mr. Boardman stated they do not necessarily look at on-site ponding as a
requirement. They look at water retention, If the builders can figure out a
way to hold water on the rooftop or in the parking lot so that the rate of
run-off is not greater than the existing property, that is generally what
they Look at. They go by the same regulations they must meet when they go
into the Rice Creek Watershed DisCrict.
Mr. Roger Jones stated he owned the Fridley Golf Range at 8100 University.
He stated he was not against the development or the plat; he thought that was
good. He stated he could appreciate the fact that the City did not want to
deadend streets, but he had to look out for his own interests and the fact
that his driving range would go out of business if 81st went in because of
the narrowfng of the property, and because of the possibility of damage to
automobiles on the road from stray golf balls. He stated he thought he saw
that all the properties could be served with utilities in the proposed plat,
and would not need a through street. If the City was to develog the area
between 79th and 81st, which is a normal growth area and let that build up,
it seemed like the wise way to go. If they put in 81st Ave., they are trying
PLANNING COMhff5SI0N MEETING, FEBRUARY 6, 1980 PAGE 3
to develop 79th and the whole package at one time, and the growth is not
there at thia time to do iY. He also felt it was putting an undue hardship
on the existing property owners to pay assessmenCS, taxes, etc., waiting for
development to come from 79th on through.
Mr. Harris asked what Mr. Jones thought of the proposal to just put 81st Ave.
to the new proposed Ranchers Road.
Mr. Jones stated he was not in favor of it, because it was doing essentially
the same thing as hav3ng 81st all the way through, as that was his working area.
Mr. Harris stated that if this land was platted and Ranchers Road was put in
and a service drive and both streets were made deadends, there would be a
problem with emergency vehicles--fire, police, and also snowplowing. Maybe
it would he posaible to put in 81st so a loop would go around oneo Ranchers
Road.
Mx. Jones stated that would still create a problem for him. He did not know
how to get away from the situation. Gars have to travel along the road and there
is no way io control a golf ball. �
Ms. Schnabel suggested that Mr. Jones put up some kind of screening--fencing
and trees or shrubs--that would help block the flight o£ a golf ball. There
must be other golfing ranges with the same problem.
Mr. Jones stated he presently had a fence which was quite worn, but he believed
the fence was about 20 feet high. They still lose about 6-7,000 golf balls a
season that go over Che fence, so the fence was not totally effective. A 30-foot
high fence would probably contain considerably more golf balls.
Mr. Schroer stated that he and Mr. Jones had talked about this several times.
He stated he felt the biggest problem for Mr. Jones was the amount of asses.s-
ments going on his property, and he could appreciate Mr. Jones' concern. He
stated they were going to put in Slst a couple of years ago, but decided it was
not necessary at that time. He felt it was getting more necessary now. Was
there any way the assessments could be delayed or something to help Mr. Jones'
situation?
Mr. Boardman stated he thought there has been some deferred payments on
assessments; however, the assessments have to be paid at the interest rate
at the time the assessments are gaid, so interest rates could be considerably
higher at that time. It might be beCter to pay the assessments now, rather
than ten years from now.
Mr. Harris stated that he had teviewed his notes and it appeared that about ten
gears�agodmhensHic�Joua�•.eame in for a special use permit to build a golfing
range,there was some discussion and Mr. Jones understood that at some point in
time, sanething else was going to happen to his property besides a driving
range. As Mr. Harris remembered, the Planning Cammission said the reason they
were recommending a special use permit was because there was not much activity
in the area, and they would like to see the driving range in that area to kind
of get things moving,
PLANNIN6 COt�A1ISSI0N MEETSNG, FEBRUARY 6, 1980 PAGE 4
Mr. Jones stated that, yes, he had understood that. Ae stated he also under-
stands that Mr. Schroer needs access to his property for development of that
property. Ais question was: Is it really necessary to go in and do this now
as it is somewhat stopping the operation of his 12 acres?
Mr. Harris asked Mr. Jones if he had thought of platting his property in the
near future.
Mr. Jones stated that, yes, he had, but, until the area from 79th to 81st is
developed, built, and sold, it seemed fool�sh for someone to skip ovex that
property and build on property farther out.
Mr. Boardman stated that there is development at access points, and access
points are at 79th and 81st. Generally, development is done first at the access
points and then development is done inside. Mr. Jones' property is at an
access point, so his property could possibly be developed before Mr. Schroer's
interior lots.
Ms. Hughes asked Mr. Schroer that on the lots along &lst Ave., what kind of
businesses would be going in there? Were they businesses that would attract a
loC of people and generate a lot of trafficY Would these businesses require
the development of 81st?
Mr. Schroer stated that Che commercial business would generate a lot of traffic,
but the indusCrial business would not. He stated, yes, it would require the
development of 81st.
Ms. Hughes asked what the time schedule was for the streee construction.
Mr. Harris stated that the streets would probably be dane by fall of 1980.
Mr. Harris stated again, that in an industrial area, they cannot put in dead-
end streets because of emergency vehicles. Although the City does have some
cul-de-sacs, they are not all that successful.
Mr. Jones stated he was not asking for a cul-de-sac, and he was not out to stop
the development, but there has to be some workable solution, rather than putting
an undue hardship on an individual. If they could put in a street that would go
back to Ranchers Road, he would go along with that and would work around that,
He would maybe need assistance in putting up a retainer wa11 to protect cars
and people from seray golf ba11s. Also, if there was s�e way to get deferred
asseasments, so that when Mr. Schroer's property was developed, then the rest
would be ready for development. He felt there was too much land to be
developed and they were trying to do it too soon. If 81st has to go in, he
would prefer to see it stop at Ranchers Road.
Mr. Oquist pointed out that if they stopped 81st ae Ranchers Road, before
long, they will have developers of the other property coming in wanting 81st
continued all the way to Main St.
PLANNiNG COMI�IISSION MEETING, dANUARY 6, 1980 PAGE 5
Ms. Schnabel etated that she was very sympathetic to Mr. Jones' problem. She
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felt uncomfortable as to how to solve the dilemma that the development of
81st Ave. would present to Mr, Jones and his property, but she also felt that
in the City's best interest, the development o£ 81st was bound to come soon,
if it was not due right now. From Mr. Schroer's standpoint, the development
of 81st was probably crucial. She thought the point Mr. Jones made was very
valid in the delineation of streets and the philosophy behind the way those
streets are platted. She did not see an anawer that would acc�odate both
people.
MOTION by Ms, Sehnabel, seconded by I�. HugheB, to close the public hearing on
P.S. Y80-01, by Robert Schrpez. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris
declared the public hearing closed at 9:05 p.m.
Mr. Oquist stated he agreed with Ms. Schnabel that it is inevitable that 81st
is going to be developed. He also appreciated Mr. Jones' dfiemma, but did not
honestly know what could be done.
Mr. Harris stated that, as far as the financial burden, maybe the Pianning
Commission could recoum�end to City Council that assessments be delayed to a
later date.
kc. Eoards�n etated that he would like Mr. Jonea to think about that, because
inter�at rates could go higher.
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded hy Mr. Treuenfels, that the Planning Commission
recommend to City Council approval of Preliminary Plat,�.. 4180-01, by Robert
Schroer, being a replat of the NW.1/4 of Section 2, T-30,'$-24, City of Fridleg, ____-
Mn, Anoka County, except that part taken for State Truck Highway T3�. 47' except
the South 284 feet of the West 480 feet and except the West 460 feet lying
northerly of the south 666 feet, generally located between 79th Avenue and 81st
Avenue N.E., on the West side of University Avenue, with the following stipulations:
1. An acceptable storm water drainage system be designed for the plat.
2. That a 20 foot easement be dedicated for Block 1, Lot 1, and Block 2,
Lot 1.
3. That 81st Avenue N.E. be extended from Main street to University Avenue
N. E .
4. That the assessments to the property owner be delayed, if the owner so
wishes
Ms. Hughes stated that if there was not excellent control of water in this plat,
she would hope that whatever means available are taken to prevent any develop-
ment of the land.
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Mr. Harris stated they should discuss the drainage situation. It was his
feeling that he would like to see the &ngineering Department do a comprehensive
study of the whole area as far as drainage. Tfiis study should be pointed to
the possibility that at some future date, the City acquire land for a holding
pond in an advantageous area near the tracks. Now is the time to do it before
there is a lot more development in the area.
PLANNiNG COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 6, 1980 PAGE 6
UP� A VOICE VOTS, Ai.L VOTING AYE, CHAIRPE&S�T HABBIS DECLABED THE M(1TION
CARRIED UN�NIl�USLY.
2. PUBLIC HEARING• CONSIDERATION OF A RBZONING REQUEST, ZOA N80-01, BY
ROBERT SCHROER: Rezone Lots 2, 3, 4, and 5, Block 3, and Lots 1, 2, 3,
4, 5, and 8, Block 4, of proposed Plat, University Industrial Park, from
C-2 (general business areas) to M-1 (light industrial areas) located in
the NW 1/4 of the SW 1/4 of Section 2, generally located betweeen 79th
Avenue N.E. and Slst Avenue N.E.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to open the public hearing on
ZOA II80-01, by Robert Schroer. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman
Harris declared the public hearing open at 9:25 p.m.
Mr. Boardman atated that the property in Block 3, Lots 2, 3, 4, and 5, and
Block 4, Lots 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, and 8, were presently zoned C-2. There is a
wide band of commercial that �s going up through this district, and Mr. Schroer
felt he cannot market that amount of commercial property. So, Mr. Schroer had
suggested that all the interior lots be rezoned from C-2 to M-1. He stated
Staff has no problems with this, except for the fact that the 100-foot setback
requirement makes Lots 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, and 8, Block 4, hard to build on.
Mr. Boardman stated that one thing he would like to see is as much parking and
truck loading as possible in either the rear or side yard and not facing the
atreet areas. He �lso felt they could move the setback from 100 feet to 35 feet
on the corr.er lots.
MOTIOH by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Oquist to close the pu6lic hearing on
ZOA #80-01, by Robert Schroer. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson
Harris declared the public hearing closed at 9:43 p.m.
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Oquist, that the Planning Commission
recommend to the City Council approval of rezoning request, ZOA I180-01, by
Robert Schroer, to rezone Lots 2, 3, 4, and 5, Block 3, and Lots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
and 8, Block 4, of proposed plat, University Industrial Park, from C-2 (general
business areas) to M-1 (light industrial areas), located in the NW 1/4 si� the
SW.1/4 of Section 2, generally located between 79th Avenue t3.E. and 81st Avenue
N.E., with the inclusion that Lots 1 and S, Block 4, be granted a 35 foot setback
with the stipulation that the loading be to the rear of the building on the
propertY• _ _ ---
UMI� � VOICE VOBE, ALL VOTING AYB, CH�IBPi�i� 1iWLLS DiCi,�1tLD THE I�TION
C�IID UN�NIISOiTSLY.
Mr. Boardman stated this would go to City Council on February 25 and a public
hearing could be set for titrch 10.
Chairperaon Harris decl�red a ten-minute recess at 9:48 p.m.
PLANNiNG COhAfISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 6, 1980 PAGE 7
3. RECEIVE LETTER FROM CENTRAL CENTER FOR
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MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to receive the letter dated
January 29, 1980, from Central Center for Family Resources. Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Harris declared the motion carried unanimously.
4. RECEIVE ARTICLS FROM FRIDLEY SUN
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MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, secanded by Ms. Schnabel, to receive the Fridley Sun
article dated January 30, 1980.
NIr. Johnson stated he was with the North Division Office of NSP, and he was
the liaison worker with the co¢miunities of the North Division, of which Fridley
was one. He had a little background in this plant siting and was present at
the meeting to try and answer any questions the Planning Commission might have.
Mr. Johnson stated that the article in the paper was factual. The reporter
had appeared at the Metropolitan Council meeting and this information was
relayed to him at this time.
Mr. Johnson stated that one of the reasons the site was selected was because
NSP was asked by state and private groups to investigate the possibility of
putting a smaller plant in the metropolitan area, the plant to not only develop
electricity, but to be used for co-generation, either steam or water, for
industrial and residential use. With that in mind, they looked at various
spots and tried to pick locations in all areas of the metropolitan area.
Mr. Harris asked if NSP was aware of the proposed park across East River Road?
Mr. Johnson stated that, yes, they were. They had met with Mr. Boardman and
have reviewed plans, and they feel they are not enfringing on the park property.
Mr. Harris asked how NSP would draw water from the river.
Mr. Johnson stated they would draw water from the river in a closed circuit
in about 12-inch pipes underground, so there would be no visual impact.
Mr. Harris stated that he assumed the coal would come by xail.
Mr. Johnson stated that, yes, that was the reason for the site by the railroad.
Mr. Harris stated he was concerned about where NSP would stockpile the coal.
Mr. Johnson stated he did not know the exact location, but it would probably
be somewhere close to-the railroad tracks.
Ms. Hughes asked Mr. Johnson to describe the configuration of a 200-megawatt
plant.
Mr. Johnson stated there would be one stack, one water-cooled tower. The
building itself would probably be 150 ft, tall with a stack.
PLANNlNG COhAffSSIDN MEETING, FEBRUARY 6, 1980 PAGE 8
Mr. Johnson stated this plant would add 75-100 employees and would bring in
approximately $600,000-700,000 in taxes to the City every year.
Mr. Johnson stated that NSP will select 3-4 sites to be turned over to the
State. The first thing they have to do is go before the Minnesota Energy
Agency and prove their need for the plant. After that they have to go before
the Site Selection Approval committee with the Minnesota Equality Board.
Each one of these will have a public hearing with input. An environmental
impact statement will also have to be made. All of this will take approximately
2-3 years, and then the State will decide where the plant will be built. NSP
hopes to make their selection of the sites they feel would be most valid for
their usage within the next 2-3 months.
Mr. Harris stated that the City Council had informally directed the Planning
Commission to study this NSP site in Fridley and get back to City Council
with a reca�endation. He asked Mr. Johnson if he would supply the Planning
Commission with as much information as possible for the Planning Commission to
study, they could get together again for further discussions. He would also
like enough copies so the Environmental Quality C�ission, Community Development
Commission, and the new Energy Commission could also study it.
Mr, Johnson stated he would get this information to Mr. Boardman, and then
the Planning Commission could contact him when they would like him back again.
Mr. Harris thanked Mr. Johnson for coming to=the meeting.
Ms. Hughes stated she would like someone to keep track of the Certificate of
Need, because without a selection of site, Fridley would not normally be
notified of this. Maybe NSP could keep Che City informed about that.
Ms. Hughes stated she would like to draw the Co�ission's attention to the
article, third paragraph from the bottom on the right, where it states: "NSP
is uncertain at this time whether a new coal-fired plant is licensable in
the Twin Cities area". That is probably because of the sulphur oxide emissions
in the ltain Cities area where there is sti11 some violation, Ms. Hughes stated,
Those standards are being reviewed now and could legally change.
IIPOI3 A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON IiARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION TO
RECEIVE THE ARTICLE IN THE FHIDLEY SUN CARRIED i1NANIMOUSLY.
5. CONTINUED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPPER 205. ZONING:
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to continue discussion on Proposed
Ghanges to Ghapeer 205. Zoning. IIpon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson
Harris declared the motion carried unanimously.
6. RECEIVE JANUARY 22, 1980, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMFIISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Mr. Hora, to receive the January 22, 1980,
Environmental Quality Commission minutes.
PLANNiNG COI�4ffSSI0N MEBTING, FEBRUARY 6, 1980 PAGE 9
Mr. Boardman stated referred to the motion made by the Environmental Quality
Commission on page 2 recommending that Planning Commission and City Council
send a Fridley representative to the MPCA Board meeting on Feb. 26, 1980,
reflecting the concern of airport and freeway expansion. Mr. Boardman stated
that the MPCA Board acted on this on Feb. 5 instead of Feb. 26. He stated
that this motion was taken directly to City Council on Feb. 4, the City Council
passed a resoluCion supporting the prioritization by the MPCA for noise control
for airporss and highways, and Mr. Virgil Herrick hand delivered that resolution
to the MPCA Board meeting. Mr. Boardman stated he did not know what action
the MPCA had taken regarding this resolution.
Mr. Harris stated that regarding Ms. Sporre's statement on page 5 where she
staCed Chat Mr. Harris should not make statements that, "planes have to land
somewhere", he would appreciate it if Ms. Sporre would not take his statements
out of context.
Ms. Hughes stated the same thing was true of the statement she had made in
the Dec. 5, 1979, Planning Commission minutes that "air quality reviews on
current Highway 10 were so bad, there was no choice except relocation." Ms. Sporre
had also taken that out of context. The discussion had been that with the
current Highway 10, the air quality reviews were so bad, you couldn.`-t possibly
expand current Highway 10. If you were going to build a highway, ie would
have to be the relocated Highway 10. That did not say one thing about the
desirability of building the new highway.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION TO
RECEIVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COh4ffSSI0N MINUTES CAHRIED UNHNIMOUSLY.
7. RECEIVE JANUARY 24, 1980, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES;
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to receive the
January 24, 1980, Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes.
Mr. Harris stated he had some discussions with members of the HRA. The HRA
was having a meeting with one of the developers on February 7. He stated the
HRA would like some input from the Planning Commission sometime down the line.
Mr. Harris stated he told the members that he did now think it was the proper
time for the Planning Commission to give input and told them that when the
HRA had something more definite, the Planning Commission would be happy to
give their input.
Mr. Boardman stated the Planning Commission wi1l have to get involtied after
the HBA makes a selection of a developer and they get into actual eovmiitments.
Now was not the praper time.
Mr. Harris stated that members of the Planning Co�iasion were invited to
attend the HRA meeting on Feb. 7 as individual citizens.
PLANNING COrAffSSION MEETING FEBRUARY 6, 1980 pAGE 10
8. OTHHR BUSINESS:
Mr. Harris stated that Mary Cayan and himself had attended a meeting with the
Anoka County Welfare and had some discussions with them, There was a meeting
scheduled for 10 a.m. on Thursday, Feb. 7, with the CAP Agency. He stated he
could not believe the lack of coordination between Che agencies--the left hand
did not know what the right hand was doing. He stated that after all the
meetings, they would try to put the whole thing together as a pacicage for
the Human Resources Commission. The Human Resources Coumiission would then
make rec�endations. Hopefully, the Planning Commission will also see the
package to act on it and send recommendations on to City Council.
AATOURNMENT:
MOTION by Mr. Hora, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to adjourn the meeting. Upon a
voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Harris declared the February 6, 1980,
Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 11:30 p.m,
Respectfully su mitted,
Lyn Saba
Recording Secretary