PL 03/05/1980 - 6674` �
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City of Fridley
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WE�NESDAY, MARCH 5, 1980
CRLL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
1. PUBLIC HEARIN6: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #80-.01
BY KATHLEEEN VIKESLAND: To allow a ch?ld day care center in
the administrative and recreation buildina of the Georgetown
Apartment Complex, the same being 5750 East River Road N.E.,
per Section 205.071, 3, G, of the Fridley City Code, located
on part of Tract B, Registered Land Survey No. 38.
2. RECEIVE HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: FEBRUA
7> 1980
3. RECEIVE HOUSIN� AND REDEUELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: FEBRUA
21, 1980
4. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: FEBRUARY
1980 ---
5. PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZONING
6. OTHER BUSINESS:
ADJOURNMENT:
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING CONIhffSSION MEETING, MARCH 5, 1980
Chairman Harris called the March 5, 1980, Planning Commission meeting to order
at 7:39 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present; Mr
Mr
Mr
Members Absent: None
Harris, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes (arr. 7:50 p.m.),
Treuenfels, Ms. Gabel (for Ms. 5chnabel),
Langenfeld
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Jan Fickett, 1468 - 97th Ave. N.W.
Kathaleen Vikesland, 270 - 117th Lane N.E.
Steve Krenz, 1430 - 100th Ave. N.W.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPBCIA,L USE PERMIT, SP ��80-01, BY
KATHALE&N VIRESLAND: To allow a child day care center in the
administrative and recreation building of the Georgetown Apartment
Complex, the same being 5750 East River Road N.E., ger Section 205.Q71,
3, G, of the Fridley City Code, located on part of Tract B, Registered
Land Survey No. 38.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to open the public hearing
for SP �k80-01 by Kathaleen Vikesland. Upon a voice vote, all voCing aye,
Chairman Harris declared the public hearing open at 7:40 p.m.
Mr. Boardman stated that on Feb. 5, 1980, he had a conversation with Ms. Vikesland.
She was requesting zoning infoxmation on the operation of a day care center at
Georgetown Apartments. He told her that under the City Codes, this type of
operation would be an allowed use within the apartment camplex as an accessory
use of that complex, if it was to be strictly for the complex itself. However,
she did want to draw children from outside the complex, so this is the reason
this is before the Planning Commission with a special use permit, since there
is presently apartment complex use on the land itself.
Mr. Boardman stated he had no difficulty with the proposed day care operation,
Mr. Harris asked Ms. Vikesland if she would explain the type of operation she
was proposing.
Ms. Vikesland stated it would be a day care center. They felt a day care center
would not be very successful if they were to draw from the apartment complex
only, and felt it would be a great benefit to the community. There is a great
need for day care centers, and they would like to draw children from the
community, rather than just the complex itself.
PLANATING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 5, 1980 PAGE 2
Mr. Oquist asked if there was any problem with operating outside the apartment
complex.
Ms. Vikesland stated, no, that the complex owners were in complete agreemenC
with this operation.
Mr. Oquist asked if Ms, Vikesland had any idea as to the enrollment.
Ms. Vikesland stated she had no idea at this time. They were trying Co get an
advance enrollment right now. She thought there was approximately 10-12
children under kindergarten age within the complex. They have a maximum
capacity of 45 children.
Mr. Langenfeld asked where the day care center would be located.
Ms. Vikesland stated they would be located within the central office building.
There are rooms below with separate entrances to the back for each room and
this is what they would rent.
Ms. Gabel asked about the parking situation and i£ there would be any problem
in loading and unloading the children.
Ms. Vikesland stated there is a horseshoe parking area, parking available in
front of the office building, and a lane around the side, so they do not foresee
any problem with parking spaces or the loading and unloading of children.
Mr. Boardman stated he did not see any problem. There was a light interchange
for getting into and out of the complex, plus there was plenty of stacking area,
Ms. Gabel asking during what hours would the day care center be operated?
Ms. Vikesland stated the day care center would be open from 6:30 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.
Ms, Gabel asked if they had checked into the necessary licenses from the State
of Minnesota and Anoka County for the day care operation.
Ms, Vikesland stated, yes, they will be state licensed. They will be non-
profit, and will be catering their Lunches and snacks through the Dist. 11
public school system...Adams School during the winter and Roosevelt School
during the su�er .
Ms. Gabel asked Ms. Vikesland to explain how they operate as non-profit.
Ms. Vikesland stated they will draw salaries for directors, a certified teacher,
and aides, but any other proceeds will not be profitable and will be passed on
to a non-profit organization.
Mr. Treuenfels stated he was concerned as far as the funding of the day care
center. Would this be entirely paid for 6y the parents of the children or
will they be receiving grants?
PLANNiNG COMMISSION MEETING M�1RCH 5, 1980 PAGE 3
Ms. Vikesland stated they are not working with any state grants. Although
state grants are availabLe,right now they did not feel the need for them.
They have personal contributions, and to keep it operating,there will be fees
charged to the parents. The fees wi11 be $40 a week for full-time students
and patt-time fees will be lower. They will have an hourly rate for after-
school children, but the minimum is $4,50 per day.
Mr, Langenfeld asked if they would accept mentally handicapped children.
Ms. Vikesland stated they have gone into that with the licensing and whether
or not to have a special program for those children. She really did not feel
they were qualified to take care of inentally handicapped children, but they
would, of course, have to keep their enrollment open for all children.
Ms. Gabel asked about the required safety codes.
Mr. Boardman stated that prior to any opening, the City would require an
inspection of the unit by the City Building Inspector, primarily because this
type of operation constitutes an occupancy-type change within the building
and therefore any changes would have to be done before the operation begins.
The Fire Dept. would have to inspect the building also.
Ms. Vikestand stated the Fixe Dept. has already inspected the building, and
they are making provisions for what is required, such as smoke detectors, etc.
The Health Dept. will be making inspections before they can be licensed, and
Chey will have regular inspections by the Health Dept. A1so, the Building
Inspector was next on their list, but were told to wait for the decisions from
the Planning Co�ission and City Council first.
Mr. Harris asked if there would be a❑ outside play area with playground equip-
ment. His concern was also that the property was about 100 ft. from the
riverbank.
Ms. Vikesland stated that to be state licensed, they must have an outside play
area with playground equipment. They have talked to the state consultant,
and if they fence the area, there will be enough square footage for the number
enrolled. It wi11 meet all the safety requirements.
Ms. Gabel asked if there was a long-term agreement with the management so the
care care center could continue.
Ms. Vikesland stated the lease is so stated that they have the option to renew
yearly. It is a long-term arrangement with the owners of the complex.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to close the public hearing
for SP �80-01 by Kathaleen Vikesland, Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Chairman Harris declared the public hearing closed at 7:53 p.m,
PLANDTLNG COhAffSSION MBETING, MARCH 5, 1980 PAGE 4
MOTION by Mr
reco�end to
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iuncil approval of a re
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�ecreation building of
East River Road N.E..
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child day care center i
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r Section 205.071. 3. G,
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No. 38
Ms. Gabel stated that, as a working mother, she could vouch for the fact that
there is a shortage of responsible people to leave children with. There is
a real problem in this area, and this day care center will tend to help that
problem somewhat.
Mr. Langenfeld stated he did not feel there was any need for stipulations,
because the required licenses seemed to take care of thaC and the special use
permit wi11 have the control element.
Ms. Hughes stated she had no objections to the child day care center, but would
abstain from voting as she had arrived late and had not heard the full discussion.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, HARItIS, TREUENFELS, GABEL, LANGENFELD, AND OQUIST VOTING
AYE, HUGHES ABSTAINiNG, CHAIRMAN He1RRIS DEQ.ARED T[iE MOTION CARRIED,
Mr. Harris stated Yhis would go to City Council for approval on March 17.
2. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 7, 1980, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION by Mx. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to receive the Feb. 7, 1980,
Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes.
Ms. Gabel stated that Ms. Schnabel wanted to know if the questions raised
hy Ms. Schnabel at the Feb. 27th Planning Commission meeCing on a canflicC
of interest has been answered.
Mr. Harris stated he had been unable to contact Mr. Commers, Chairperson of
the HRA, but would contact Mr. Commers to discuss this with him.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOIISLY.
3. RECEIVE FBBRUARY 21, 1980, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to receive the Feb. 21, 1980,
Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye,
Chairman Harris declared the motion carried unanimously.
4. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 19, 1980, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MQTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to receive the Feb. 19, 1980,
Environmental Quality Commission minutes.
PLANNING COI�QSiSSION MEEfiTNG, MARCEI 5, 1980 PAGE 5
Mr. Oquist stated that on page 10 of the EQC minutes regarding rerefined oil,
Ms. Metcalf had stated: "There is a law passed that every gas station or
place selling oil must have a sign telling people where they can recycle
their oil. It is doubted any of these places do that. This was an area for
the new Energy Commission." Mr. Oquist stated this was interesting and should
be pursued.
Mr. Harris stated that for the Commissioners' information,the City Garage
takes all used oil.
Mr. Langenfeld stated he would like to ask that the new Energy Conm�ission
receive any portion of the minutes zelating to energy.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that at the last Planning Commission meeting, he had
suggesCed that the Planning Co�ission have someone from the MPCA attend a
meeting to discuss the NPC-5 Airport Installation Permit. He thought it would
be very worthwhile.
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. Hughes, that the Planning Coum�ission
ask a member of the MPCA to come before the Planning Gommission to discuss the
draft proposals of NPC-5 Airport Installation Permit.
Ms. Gabe1 stated she would ask that all the co�issions be notified when this
meeting would take place.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRMAN 1�ARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED IINANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Boardman stated he would check into having someone from the MPCA attend a
PLanning Commission meeting.
5. CONTINUED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZOIIING:
Changes & Corrections:
Page 30
205.08 R-2 DISTRICT REGULATIONS
205.081 Uses Permitted
�63-C. Change to: "All private, non-profit golf course, country club, yacht
clubs, tennis clubs, swiuoning pools, and additional recreation uses are not
accessory uses to the principal uses in the R-2 District.
Page 33
205.084 Building Requirements
�k2. Minimum Floor Area - change to: "There shall be no specific floor area
requirements, however, structure size must be compatible with State Building
Code."
PLANNING COI�ff SSION MEETING, MARCH 5, 1980 PAGE 6
Page 34
205.Q85 Parking Requirements
9�1-C. "All driveways sha11 be surfaced with blacktop or concrete or other
approved hard surface material."
Ms. Hughes stated she objected to hard surface driveways being required in
R1 and R2.
Mr. Oquist stated that Ms. Hughes had a good point. They have discussed
garages and have eliminated the garage requirement, and have discussed reducing
the square footage of lots and living spaces, in terms of affordable housing,
and yet they are requiring hard surface driveways,
I�ITION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to recommend that "All driveways
shall be surfaced with blacktop or concrete or other approved hard surface
material" be eliminated in both R1 and R2.
Ms, Hughes stated she felt as long as they have done other things to make
housing affordable, there was no reason why they couldn't eliminate this
requirement.
Mr. Harris stated that the theory behind hard surface driveways was that they
not only help the storm sewer system, but also the street cleaning. If there
is a lot of sand, gravel and trash on the streets from runoff from the drive-
ways �hat are not hard surface, it costs more money for street cleaning.
Mr. Boardman stated he did not look at a garage as a street maintenance problem,
but he did �ook at a driveway as a street maintenance problem. He had to look
at that as a potential problem for all taxpayers because of the street
maintenance costs. He felt hard surface driveways are important in all areas.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, IiUGHES, TREUENFELS VOTING AYE, GABEL, OQUTST, AND HARRIS
VOTING NAY, LANGENFELD ABSTAINlNG, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION DEFEATED.
205.086 Performance Standards
4k1-A. Change to: "A11 materials shall be kept in a building or shall be fully
scxeened, so as not to be visible from any public right-of-way, except where
the City Council may require a Special Use Permit for any exterior storage if
it is demonstrated that such storage is a hazard to public health, safety,
and general welfare,"
#3-B. Delete
��4-A. Change to: "All open areas of any site, except for areas used for
parking, dxiveways, or storage, shall be sodded or seeded.
PLANNING COI�A1ISSi0N MEETING, MARCH 5, 1980 PAGE 7
Page 36
205.09 R-3 DISTRICT REGt7LATI0NS
205.091 Uses Permitted
#3-B. Change to: "A11 private, non-profit golf course, country clubs, yacht
clubs, tennis courts, swiv�ing pools, and additional recreation uses are not
accessory uses to the principal uses in the R-3 District."
Pa&e 37
205.093 Lot Requirements & SeCbacks
Add 2-B: "A minimumlot width of 85 feet is required for a multiple dwelling
of 4 or more units."
Page 38
205.094 Building Requirements
�3. Laundry Facilities - Change last sentence to: "One (1) washer and dryer
will be required for each 10 units or fraction thereof in those structures
containing over 100 units.
Page 39
�'7. Sound - Mr. Harris asked Mr. Soardman to check the average sound trans-
mission loss of 50 decibels to make sure it is consistent with the State
Building Code.
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to continue discussion on
Pxoposed Changes to Chapter 205. Zoning. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Chairman Harris declaxed the motion carried unanimously.
6. OTHER BUSINESS:
Mr. Harris stated he would like to read into the record his public disclosure
information required once a year by the City;
Page 1- Name of Business and Partnerships, etc.: H& R Enterprises
6200 Riverview Terrace
Title: President
Dick Harris Co.
6200 Riverview Terrace
Title: President