PL 03/19/1980 - 66750
CITY OF FRIDLEX
A G E N D A
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, MARCH 19� 1980 7:30 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTE3: FEBRUARY 27, 1980
APPROVE PLAI3NNIG COMMISSION MINUTES: MARCH 5, 1980
1. PUBLIC HEARING: REOUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT,
S.P. #80-02, BY ANOKA COUNTY TASK FORCE FOR BATTERED
WOMEN: Per Section 205.051, 3, F, to allow a dweliing
loca£ed on Lots 18, 19, 20�and 21, Block 3, Oak.Grove
Addition to Fridley Park, to be used as a facility
for battered women and children.
2. VACATION REQUEST, SAV #80-01, BY G. W. PASCHKE:
Vacate tfie South 160' of that part of a drainage &
utility easement 10 feet on either side of the
common lot line of Lots 5 and 12, B1ock 2, Paco
Industrial Park, so that the buildings located at
7280 Commerce Circle East and 7281 Commerce Circle
West can be joined together with a 60' x 100' Addition.
3. RECEIVE
MINIITES:
4. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MARCH 11, 1980
5. RECEIVE COMMUNITY DE�IELOPMENT COMMISSION MZNUTES:
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6. CONTINUED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZONING
7. OTHER BTJSINESS:
ADJOURNMENT:
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMIISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 27, 1980
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Harris called the February 27, 1480, Planning Co�ission meeting to
order at 7:43.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenfels, Mr. Langenfeld, Mt. Oquist,
Ms. Hughes, Ms. Schnabel
Members Absent; None
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 6, 1980, PLANNING COMMISSIQN MINVEES:
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to approve Che
February 6, 1980, Planning Co�ission minutes.
Ms. Hughes stated that at the City Cwncil meeting on Monday, the City Council
received the Feb. 6, 1980, Planning Cov�ission minutes and set a public hearing
for Robert Schroer's property (P.S. �80-01). The question was asked if they
needed to do anything about the water study and the answer was no, they have
this plan and everything is being done differently, so it would be appropriate
just to rev3ew the water situation in the planning. She stated she felt it was
very clear in the Feb.`6 Planning Co�ission minutes that the Planning Commission
requested a canprehensive sCudy o£ the whole area as far as a drainage system,
and the City Council was choosing not to do anything about it.
Mr. Harris asked Mr. Boardman to check into the situation. He stated that if
the City was going to acquire land for a holding pond, now was the time to do
it, not after someone builds on the land.
Ms. Hughes stated she was told that the water would and is supposed to be held
on the lot until it is safe to run off.
Mr. Harris stated that it is the rate of run-off and the quality that is the
problem. The City is requiring .a holding pond on the Sears property. What
makes the Sears property any different from this propertyY He thanked Ms. Hughes
for this information.
Mr. Boardman stated he would check with Mr. Hexrick on the water drainage plan
and get back to the Commission.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECtARED THE MINVfES APPROVED
AS WRITTEN.
PLANNING COMMISSI�N MEETZNG FEBRUARY 27 1980 PAGE 2
1. RECEIVE TWO PUBLTC HEARING NOTICES FROM SPRING LAKE PARK:
A. Rezoning to allow mini-storage garages on the property abutting
8325 University Ave. N.E.
Mr. Boardman stated he knew very little about this. This has
already gone to the Spring Lake Park Planning hearing so that
is why it was noted that the Council hearing would be on Mar. 3.
Mr. Harris asked if these storage garages would in any way adversely
affect Fridley.
Mr, Boardman stated they would affect Fridley visually, but there
was no traffic concern because the garages would generate little
traffic. Another concern would be the drainage.
Mr. Haxris asked Mr. $oardman to contact Spring Lake Park to express
Fridley's concern about the water run-off and to find out where the
water would go and what controls Spring Lake Park planned to have on
the water run-ofE. If there seemed to be a problem, Mr. Harris asked
Mr. Boardman to contact him and he would try to attend the Mar. 3
City Council meeting.
MOTZON by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to receive Lhe
public hearing notice from Spring Lake Park for rezoning to allow
mini-storage garages on the property abutting 8325 University Ave. N.E.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris declared the motion
carried unanimously.
B. Special Use Permit to do filling and grading on the property
ismuediately East of 1115 Oshorne Rd.
Mr. Bnardman stated the drainage for this property would go into
the Rice Creek Watershed District so there was some control.
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, aeconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to receive the
public hearing notice from Spring Lake Park for a special use permit
to do filling and grading on the property immediately East of
1115 Osborne Rd. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chaixman Harris
declared the motion carried unanimously.
2. RECEIVE PACKET FROM NORTHERN STATES POWER, RE: Coal-Fired Power Plant
in Twin Cities Area:
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to receive the packet of
information from NSP.
Ms. Hughes stated in the information, NSP said they have done some site layouts
on all of these properties and she would like the Planning Commission to request
those layouts. She also thought NSP should be asked what impact they think the
mater use might have on the Minneapolis Waterworks, if any.
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Mr. Langenfeld stated that the Co�nission should naturally be aware of all
the information at hand, but he wondered how much they should go into it
since Fridley might not be the site chosen. �
Ms. Aughes atated that for the record, NSP has completed facility layouts for
five of the new sites and the three existing sites, and it would be inYeresting
Co see what they are proposing. At least their first 200 megawatt plant is
going to be at the Highbridge Plant in St. Paul fot co-generation. So, what
they are looking at is where the second one will be. She asked NSP at a meeting
on co-generation what they were thinking o£, and it sounded as though they are
considering the xhree existing plants, the closest to Fridley being the River-
side Plant. If that one is not one of the most viable ones, Fridley is going
to be very attractive immediately behind that, at 7east ou this end of the
metro area.
Mr. Harris stated the more he thought about the Fridley site, the more he was
sure it was not a feasible site.
Mr. Boardman stated that the Fridley site was the smallesC site and that is a
detriment.
Ms. Schnabel stated that NSP was also looking at areas where there could be
barge traffic, and there could be no barge traffic into Fridley or Coon Rapids.
Ms. Aughes stated the Co�ission should be aware that the PCA is considering,
and she thought they have sCarted,the process to redraw the lines where they
think they have a sulphur dioxide pollution problem.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, Ai.L VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION TO
RECEIVE THE NSP INFORMATION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
3. RECEIVE SPECIAL HOUSTNG & REDEVELO?MENT AUTHORIIR MINUTES OE JAN. 29, 1980:
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to receive the Special Housing &
Redevelopment Authority minutes of Jan. 29, 1980.
Mr. Boardman stated that at the last meeting, the HRA selected Joint Venture
Developers (7VD) as the developer for Phase L and 2 of the Center City Project.
He stated he has talked to the City Attorney regarding a possible conflict of
interest, because of Mark Haggerty's law firm's association with the City, and
the City Attorney has written a memo stating there is no conflict of interest.
Ms. SehnabeL stated she xeally has pro6lems with this. She felt there was the
potential for a real conflict of interest in this situation, should some
problem arise in the development of the Center City Project, in which the
city prosecuting attorney's law firm is involved as one of the developers.
She thought that particular law firm has done good work for the City of Fridley,
and the accommodations reached in terms of hiring the two different law firms
has worked out very well for the City, but she sees a real potential for a
conflict of interest and a real problem in the future. She really felt that
PLANTIING COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 27 1980 PAGE 4
if the City Council goes along with JVD as the developer,for the Center City
Project, then the City should divest itsel£ of the law Firm in terms of the
City Prosecutor.
Mr. Harris stated he did not think that the City Prosecutor has ever dealt
with any zoning issues or building permit viotations.
Mr. Boardman stated the City Prosecutor is primarily involved in police matters
and those types of prosecuting matters,
Ms. Schnabel stated she still felt the potential existed where there might
be a case where that particular law firm mfght be called in. A2so, even
though she understood that Mr. Elmars Prieditis (member of HRA) abstained
from voting on the developer, she felt his association with the architectural
firm that is part of JVD was a little shaky. It was these kinds of things
that makes the development look kind of suspicious.
Mr. Boa�dman stated that the HRA was concerned about the conflict of interest
and that is why they asked Mr. Herrick for a legal opinion. Mr. Prieditis
was aware of his position and did not vote on the developer. Wha.t more could
the HRA do?
Mr. Harris stated that the con£lict of interest between the City Prosecutor
and the fact that he works for the law firm that is associated with JVD did not
bother him as much as the fact that Mr. Prieditis was associated with JVD
through his architectural firm. He stated that if, in fact, there was a problem
as far as Mr. Haggerty's firm with the development and the City Prosecutor had
to prosecute, it would be very simple for them to say thexe is a conflict of
interest and have Mr. Herrick handle the prosecution.
Ms. Schnabel stated that she thought the City Council has aa obligation to
review this matter and make some kind of decision.
Mr. Boardman stated that the Commi.ssion has to remember that the HRA is a
separate, non-profit public corporation, separated from the City Council.
Mr. Haggerty's firm is not the prosecuting attorney for the HRA. The City of
Fridley is completely separate fr� the HRA. The difference is one is elected
and one is appointed.
Mr. Harris stated he has explained to the HRA that the Planning Commission
will stay out of the selection phase, but would be happy to participate and
give input in the development phase. As individuals, the Commission members
could certainly raise these questions.
Mr. Harris asked Mr. Boardman about the timetable for the development.
Mr. Boardman stated that since the developer has been selected, they have
contacted both developers. One of the things the HRA made in their mntion
was for Staff to work with International Multi-Housing, Inc.,(IMI) on the
potential of including one of the other phases. IMI is very interesLed in
PL,ANNING COPPILSSION MEETING FEBRUARY 27 1980 PAGE 5
working in some of the other phases, preferably acroas University. He stated
he would be meeting with IMI on Monday and with JVD the next Friday, Right
now they will have to go through the disposition documents with JVD and
Mr. Haggerty's firm will try to get commitments on office facilities. This
whole pzocess will take approximately 90 days. After the disposition documents
are completed and coc�mdtments are made with those documents, the City will
start the acquisition process with the property. That will take around six
months.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL WTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED TNE MOTION TO
RECEIVE THE JAN. 29, 1980, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT NIINUTES CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. RECBIVE TNL' FEB, 7 1980, HUMAN RESOURCES COP4•ffSSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to receive the Feb. 7, 1980,
Human Resources Co�ission minutes.
Mr. Harris stated that it was his personal feeling that in talking to several
people in the County about social services and what services are available, he
has never seen such disorganization in all his life. It was his understanding
that after they got all this information together, the Human Resources Co�ission
would come up with some guidelines, and then the Planning Coumiission would talk
about it and see what role they felt the City should play in this.
UYON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MDTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
5. RECEIVE THE FEB. 12, 1980 APPEALS COrAffSSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, Co receive the Feb. 12, 1980,
qppeals Co�ission minutes.
UPONA VOICE VOTE, A1L VOTING AYE, CHAiRMAN 1iARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
6. RECEIVE THE FEB. 12, 1980, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COi�AffSSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. TreuenEels, to receive the Feb. 12, 1980,
Community Development Coam�ission minutes. •
Mr. Oquist stated that the Com�unity Development Commission made a motion on
page 3 stating that the Conmiission did not support the NPC-5 AirporC Installa-
tion Permit. As they looked at it, they saw no revoking of the permit. The
NPC-5 requires the issuance of a permit before there is any airport remodeling,
but there is no enforcement.
Mr, tangenfeld stated the Environmental Quality Coam�ission had strongly wished
that the Co�unity Development Commission would support the idea of a permit
process, but he appreciated seeing another viewpoint on it. The Environmental
Quality Co�ission felt that the pennit process was anoCher tool to make it
a little more enforceable in a court of 1aw.
PLANNlNG COt-A1i55I0N MEETING FEBRUARY 27 1980 PAGE 6
Ms. Hughes stated that Mr. Oquist had an excellent point about no revoking
of the permit, and she did not know what the revoking process was. The MPCA
could isaue permits, but there are provisions in the state law for revoking
permits, and that might be where this is handled.
Mr. Harris asked how can you exercise control over a federal agency because
the FAA reaily sets the noise standards for jet aircraft or any aircraft?
Ms. Hughes stated that through the permit, you could say you won't allow any
plane over a certain decibel level to land or won't allow operation after a
certain hour. The controls being used now are essentially voluntary or ones
that have been adopted in negotiation with neighborhooda and have been done,
not by the MPCA, but by MAC. If you established that the MPCA has the right
to permit this kind of facilfty, then it also has the right to set limitations
on how that facility is used.
Ms. Hughes stated she felt one of the reasons the permit is coming up now for
more discussion is because the current status of the cnngressional legislation
was to give a•five-year extension to fleet operatore befare they are required
to retrofit or install new engines.
Mr. Harris stated he would be in favor of NPC-5 if he thought it would do any
good.
Mr. Langenfeld stated the bottom line was that it was the hopes of many that
this permit system would work and would provide the necessary teeth they are
looking for.
Ms. Hughes stated the MPCA had adopted the following priorities for noise
control; No. 1 for airport, No. 2 for highways, and No. 3 working with
communities on community noise control.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that wteen the Environmental Quality Co�ission got
started on this, they didn't know what existed and just wanted some kind of
permit process, It was the Environmental Quality Commission's hope that
there would be some kind of control on airport expansion through a permit
process so you wouldn't have the situation where an airport could add 500 ft.
of runway, then add to the control tower, and before long, it was a super
airport.
Mr. Oquist stated that all the NPC-5 says is that before an airport gets
a permit, it must tell the MPCA it is not going to create more noise than
the state standards. The airport then says they will not create more noise
so [hey get the permit and go about building. If, after building, the airport
does create more notse, it is atl right, because the permit cannot be revoked
anyway. He stated he views the NPC-5 Airport Installation Petmit as just a
� piecemeal kind of thing--a bandaid to put on a problem and it will not really
solve the pxoblem.
PLANNiNG COrP�ffSSZON MEETiNG FEBRUARY 21. 1980 PAGE 7_
Mr. Langenfeld asked the Commission if they would like to have Daryl Korpela
or A1 Perez of the Noise Section of the MPCA come Co a Commission meeting to
talk about NPC-5. He felt it would be very helpful.
Ms. Hughes stated that the MPCA is seeking public c�ment, but not in a formal
public hearing. The_deadline for public camment was Dec. 1, 1979, but it has
been postponed indefinitely. She believed this would be resurfacing in the
next couple of months,, and then they may well have a public hearing, at which
time it would be appropriate to make some conm�ent. She stated she would lYke
to have someone from the MPCA come to a Planning Co�issioa meeCing sometime
in the summer.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, C HAZRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION TO
RECEIVE THE FEB. 12, 1980, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONAIISSION MINUTES CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
7. RECEIVE THE F6B 13 1980 PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to receive the Feb. 13, 1980,
Parks & Recreation Coumiission minutes.
Ms, Hughes sCated that the Parks & Recreation Coa�ission made a motion on
page 4 recommending that a citizens' committee be established to explore all
possibilities for a Fridley recreation center at the Fridley Community Park.
She stated that one of .the functions of this group would be to raise funds
and involve the co�unity. From that standpoint, it would be useful to expand
it beyond the Parks & Recreation Commission.
Mr. Harris stated he thought this was within the realm of the Parks & Recreation
Coamiission, and it might carry a little more weight if it was handled by the
Parks & Recreation Co�ission. He asked Ms.Hughes what does the Parks &
Recreation Commission want?
Ms. Hughes stated the Parks &&ecreation Co�ission generally felt they ought
to be doing it and be involved in the decisions. She stated they have been
having this argvment for several months in terms of what this whole project
would be. She stated that she had said before that the Parks & Recreation
Coamission has had absolutely nothing to say about the layout of the Sears
praperty plan. It was being done internally be the City Staff. Mr. Boudreau
was out making presentations to organizations asking for money to develop the
fields before the Parks & Recreation Commission even saw the plan. She was
&till having problems with the communicationswith sCaff in bringing things to
the Commission that she felt were appropriate things for the Coo¢nission to deal
with.
Mr. Harris stated that if the Parks & Recreation Commission had a project
committee, they would study the thing and make their reco�endations to the
Parks & Recreation Commission.
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Ms. Hughes stated ahe would like the Planning Co�ission to indicate if the
citi2ens' committee was appropriate or if a project committee was the appro-
priate mechanism for working on a recreation center in terms of defining the
appropriate facility and funding.
Ms. Schnabel stated she thought it should be the responsibility of the Parks &
Recreation Commission.
Mr. Boardman stated that if the Parks & Recreation Commission does set up a
project committee, it is up to the Cou�ission to estahlish that project committee
and it does not take P2anning Commissioa o r City Council action to establish
that project co�ittee.
Mr, Langenfeld stated that on page 9 of the Parks & Recreation Commission
minutes where the City of Coon Rapids asked for funds from the City of Fridley
for their summer concernts, if these concerts were held at Anoka RamseB
Community College, where would the proceeds go1
Ms. Hughes stated she was sure the proceeds would go to the Fine Arts Commission
of Coon Rapids, who is running th3s series of concerts.
Mr. Boardman stated he had talked to Coon Rapids and has told them the process
they would have to go through to request funding. That process is the process
currently being established by the Human Resources Commission.
tTPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLAAED THE MOTION TO
RECEIVE THE Pe1RKS � RECREATION COMMLSSION MINUTES CA.RRIED UNANTMOUSLY.
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UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIPIG AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
BY MR. LANGENFELD, TO CONCUR WITH TF1E RECOMMENDA-
TION COhA1iSSION ON PAGE 10 OF THE FEB_ 23. 1980.
MINUTES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL NOT CONSIDER FWiDING FOR THE COON RAPIDS CONCEK'S
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED TFIS MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Chairman Harris declared a ten-minute break at 9:40 p.m,
PLAiIt�ING COPIMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 27 1980 PAGE 9
8. CONTIN[JED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZONING:
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to continue discussion on
the Proposed Changes to Chapter 205. Zoning at another time.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris declared the motion carried
unanimously.
The Commission set a speciai meeting to discuss the Zoning Ordinance on
Wednesday, March 26, at 7:30 p.m.
9. OTHER BUSINESS:
Mr. Boardman stated he wanted to inform the Covmdssion that on March 6, the
flood insurance people would be at City Hall. Staff will be meeting with them
at 1:00 p.m. and at 2:Q0 p.m., there will be a public meeting on flood
insurance, The notice was in the paper.
ADJOURNMENT •
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to adjouxn the meeting. Upon a
voice, all voting aye, Chairman Aarris declared the February 27, 1980, Planning
Commission meeting adjourned at 10:05 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
�t� ��
Lyn Saba
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANT7ING CO2@iCSSION MEETING, MARCH 5, 1980
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Harris called the March 5, 1980, Planning Coumiission meeting to order
at 7;39 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present; Mr. Harris, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes (arr. 7;54 p.m,),
Mr. Treuenfels, Ms. Gabel {for Ms. Schnabei},
Mr. Langenfeld
Members Absent: None
Others Present; Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Jan Fickett, 1468 - 97th Ave. N.W.
Kathaleen Vikesiand, 270 - 117th Lane N.E.
Steve Krenz, 1430 - 100th Ave. N.W.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: RE UEST FOR A SPEC.It1I, USE PERMZT SP �f80-01, By
lU1TJIALEEN VIl'.ESLAND: To allow a child day care center in the
administrative and recreation building of the Georgetown Apartment
Complex, the same being 5750 East River Road N,E., per Section 205,071,
3, G, of the Fridley City Code, located on part of Tract B, Regiatered
Land Survey No, 38.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to open the public hearing
for SP 9i8p-01 by Kathaleen Vikesland, Upan a voice vote, all voting aye,
Chairman Harris declared the public hearing open at 7;40 p,m,
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Mr. Boardman stated that on Feb. 5, 1980, he had a cor.versation with Ms. Vikesland.
She was requesting zoning information on the operation of a day care center at
Georgetown Apartments, He told her [haE under the City Codes, this type of
operation would be an allowed use within the apartment complex as an accessory
use of that complex, if it was to be stx3ctly for the complex itself. However,
she did want to draw children from outside the complex, so this is the reason
[his is before the Planning Cammisaion with a special use permit, since there
is presently apartment compiex use on the land itself.
Mr. Boardman stated he had no difficulEy with the proposed day care operation,
Mr. Harris asked Ms. Vikesland if she would explain the type of operation she
was proposfng,
Ms. Vikesl3nd stated it would be a day care center. They fel[ a day care center
would not be very successful if they were to draw from [he apartment complex
only, and felt it would be a great beneFit to the community, There is a grea[
need for day care centers, and they would like to draw chfldren from the
community, ra[her than just the complex iCSelf.
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Mr. Oquist asked if there was any problem with operating outside the apartmettt
camplex.
Ms. Vikesland stated, no, that the complex ownexs were in compleee agreement
with this operation.
Mr. Oquist asked if Ms. Vikesland had any idea as to the enrollment.
Ms. Vikesland stated she had no idea at this time. They were trying to get an
advance enrollment right now. She thought there was approximately 10-12
children under kindergarten age within the complex. They have a maximum
capacity of 45 children.
Mr. Langenfeld asked where the day care center would be located,
Ms. Vikesland stated they woc�ld be Located within t he central office huilding.
There are rooms below with separaCe entrances to the back for each room and
this is what they would rent.
Ms. Gahel asked about the parking situation and if there would be any problem
in loading and unloading the children.
Ms. Vikesland stated there is a harseshoe parking area, parking available in
' front of the office building, and a lane around the side, so they do not foresee
any problem with parking spaces or the loading and unloading of chiidren.
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Mr. Boardman stated he did not see any problem. There was a light interchange
for getring into and out of the complex, plus there was plenty of stacking area.
Ms. Gahel asking during what hours would the day care cen[er be operated?
Ms. Vikesland stated the day care center would be open from 6:30 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.
Ms. Gabel asked if they had checked into the necessary licenses from the State
of Minnesota and Anoka County for the day care operation.
Ms. Vikesland stated, yes, they will be state licensed. They will be non-
profit, and will be catering their lunches and snacks through the Dist. 11
public school system.,.Adams School during the winter and Roosevelt School
during the summer. �
Ms. Gabel asked Ms. Vikesland to explain how they operate as non-profit.
Ms. Vikesland stated they will dzaw salaries for directors, a certified teacher,
and aides, buC any other proceeds will noC be profitable and wi11 be passed on
to a non-profit organization.
Mr. Treuen£els stated he was concerned as far as the funding of the day care
center. Would this be entirely paid for by the parents of the children or
will they be receiving grants?
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Ms. Vikesland stated they are not working with any state grants. Although
state grants are available,rlght now they did not feel the need for them.
They have personal contributions, and to keep it operating,there will be fees
charged to the parents. The fees will be $40 a week for full-time students
and part-time fees wi11 be lower. They will have an hourly rate for after-
school children, but the minimum is $4.50 per day.
Mr. Langenfeld asked if they would accept mentaLly handicapped children.
Ms. Vikesland stated they have gone into that with the licensing and whether
or not to have a special program for those children. She really did not feel
they were qualified to take care of inentally handicapped children, but they
would, of course, have to keep their enrollment open for all children.
Ms. Gabel asked ahout the required safety codes.
Mr. Boardman stated that prior to any opening, the City would require an
inspection of the unit by the City Building Inspector, primarily because this
type of operation constitutes an occupancy-type change within the building
and therefore any changes would have to be done before the operation begins.
The Fire Dept, would have to inspect the building also,
Ms. Vikes2and stated the Fire Dept. has already inspected the building, and
they are making provisions for what is reqnired, such as smoke detectors, etc,
The Health Dept. will be making inspections before they can be licensed, and
they will have regular inspections by the Health ➢ept. Also, the Building
Inspector was next on their list, but were told to wait for the decisions from
the Planning Commission and City Council first.
Mr. Harris asked if there would be an outside play area with playground equip-
ment, His concern was also that the property was about 100 ft. from the
riverbank.
Ms. Vikesland stated that to be state licensed, they must have an outside play
area with playground equipment. They have talked to the state consultant,
and if they fence the area, there will be enough square footage for the number
enrolled, It will meet all the safety requirements.
Ms. Gabel asked if there was a long-term agreement with the management so the
care care center could continue,
Ms. Vikesland stated the lease fs so staCed that they have the option to renew
yearly. It is a long-term arrangement with the owners of the complex.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to c2ose the public hearing
for SP i�80-01 by Kathaleen Vikesiand.. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Chairman Harris declared the public hearing closed at 7:53 p.m.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 5 1980 PAGE 4
MOTION bv Mr. LanQenfeld
a reauest for a snecial use nermit
ative and recreation buildin¢ of the Georgetown
same being 5750 East River Road N.E., per Section 205.071, 3, G, of
lev Citv Code. located on part of Tract B, ReQistered Land SurveY N
Ms. Gabel stated that, as a working mother, she could vouch for the fact that
there is a shortage of responsible people to leave children with. There is
a real problem in this area, and this day care cenL-er wi11 tend to help that
problem somewhat. •
Mr. Langenfeld stated he did not feel there was any need for stipulations,
because the required licenses seemed to take care of that and the special use
permit will have the control element.
Ms. Hughes sCated she had no objections to the child day care center, but would
abstain from voting as she had arrived late and had not heard the full discussion.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� HARRIS, TREUENFELS, GABEL, LANGENFELD, AND OQUIST VOTING
AYE, HIIGHES ABSTAINING, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTZON CARRIED.
Mr. Harris stated this would go to City Council for approval on March 17.
2. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 7, 1980 HOi3SING & REDEVELOPMENT AVTHORITY MINt3TES:
MOTiON by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to receive the Feb. 7, 148�,
Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes.,
Ms. Gabel stated that Ms. Schnabel wanted to know if the questions raised
by Ms. Schnabel at the Feb. 27th Planning Counnission meeting on a conflict
of interest has been answered.
Mr. Harris stated he had been unable to contact Mx. Commers, Chairperson of
the HRA, but would contact Mr. Commers to discuss this with him.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 21, 1980, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to receive the Feb. 21, 1980,
Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Chairman Harris declared the motion carried unanimously.
4. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 19 1980 ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded 6y Mr. Treuenfels, xo receive the Feb. 19, 1980,
Environmental Quality Commission minutes.
PLANNING COMMISSION MP:ETING, MARC}] 5, 1980 PAGE 5
Mr. Oquist stated that on page 10 of the EQC minutes regarding rerefined oil,
Ms. Metcalf had stated: "There is a law passed that every gas station or
place selling oil must have a sign telling people where [hey can recycle
their oil. It is doubted any of these places do th3t. This was an area for
the new Energy Commission." Mr. Oquist stated this was interesting and should
be pursued.
Mr. Harris staCed that for the Commissioners' information,Che City Garage
takes all used oil.
Mr. Langenfeld stated he would like to ask that the new Energy Commission
receive any portion of the minutes relating to energy.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that at the last Planning Commission meeting, he had
suggested that the Planning Co�ission have someone from the MPCA attend a
meeting to discuss the NPC-5 Airport Installation Peimit. He thought it would
be very worthwhile.
MOTION by Mr, Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. Hughes, that the Planning Covmiission
ask a member of the MPCA to come before the Planning Commission to discuss the
draft proposals of NPC-5 Airport Installation Permit.
Ms. Gabe1 stated she would ask that all the coum�issions be notified when this
meeting would take place.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Boardman stated he would check into having someone from the MPCA attend a
Planning Commission meeting.
5. CONTINUED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZONING:
Changes & Corrections;
Pa e 30
205.08 R-2 DISTRICT REGULATIONS
205.081 Uses Permitted
�f3-C. Change to: "A11 private, non-profiC golf conxse, country club, yacht
clubs, tennis clubs, swimming pools, and addi[ional recreation uses are not
accessory uses to the principal uses in the R-2 District.
Page 33
205.084 Building Requirements
#2. Minimum Floor Area - change to; "There shall be no specific floor area
requirements, however, structure size must be compatible with State Building
Code,^
PLANNING C0�4ffSSI0N MEETYNG MARCH 5 1980 FAGE 6
Page 34
ZO5.085 Parking Requirements
#1-C. "Al1 driveways shall be surfaced with blacktop or concrete or other
approved hard surface material."
Ms. Hughes stated she objected to hard surface driveways being required in
R1 and R2.
Mr. Oquist stated that Ms. Hughes had a good point. They have discussed
garages and have eliminated the garage requirement, and have discussed reducing
the square footage of Iots and living spaces, in terms of affordable housing,
and yet they are requiring hard surface driveways.
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to recommend that "All driveways
shall be surfaced with blacktop or concrete or other approved hard surface
material" be eliminated in both R1 and R2.
Ms. Hughes stated she felt as long as they have done other things to make
housing affordable, there was no reason why they couldn't eliminate this
requirement,
Mr. Harris stated that the theory behind hard surface driveways was that they
not only help the storm sewer system, but also the street cleaning, If there
is a lot oi sand, gravel and trash on the streets from runoff from the drive-
ways that are not hard surface, it costs more money for street cleaning.
Mr. Boardman stated he did not look at a garage as a street maintenance problem,
but he did �ook at a driveway as a street maintenance problem. He had to look
at that as a potential problem for all taxpayers because of the street
maintenance costs. He felt hard surfa�e driveways are important in aIl areas.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, HUGHES, TREUENFELS VOTING AYE, GABEL, OQUIST, AND HARRIS
VOTING NAY, LANGENFELD ABSTAINING, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION DEFEATED.
205.086 Performance Standards
�1-A, Change to: "All materials shall be kept in a building or shall be fully
screened, so as not to be visible from any public right-of-way, except where
the City Council may require a Special Use Permit for any exterior storage if
it is demonstrated that such storage is a hazard to public health, safety,
and general wettare."
�3-B. Delete
#4-A. Change to: "All open areas of any site, except for areas used for
parking, driveways, or storage, shall be sodded or seeded.
PLkNNZI�'G COMt7lSSSON MEETZNG MARCH 5 19^v0 PAGE 7
Page 36
205.09 R-3 DISTRICT REGULATIONS
205.091 Uses Permitted
�3-B. Change to: "All private, non-proEit golf course, country clubs, yacht
clubs, tennis courts, swimming pools, and additional recreation uses are not
accessory uses to the principal uses in the R-3 District."
Pa e 37
205.093 Lot Requirements & Setbacks
Add 2-B: "A minimumlot width of 85 feet is required for a multiple dwelling
of 4 or more units,"
Page 38
205.094 Building Requirements
�k3. Laundry Facilities - Change last sentence to: "One (1) washer and dryer
will be tequired for each 10 units or fraction thereof in Chose structures
containing over 100 units.
Page 39
4k7. Sound - Mr. Aar.ris asked Mr. Board:nan to check the average sound trans-
mission loss of 50 decibels to make sure it is consistent with the State
Building Code.
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. GaUe1, to continue discussion on
Proposed Changes to Chapter 205. Zoni.ng. Upon a voice vote, a11 voCing aye,
Chairman Harris declared the motion c�rried unanimously.
6. OTIIER BUSINESS:
Mr. Aarris staCed he would like Co read into the recoxd his pu6lic disclosure
information required once a year by the City:
Page 1- Name of Business and Partnerships, etc.: H& R Enterprises
6200 Riverview Terrace
Title: President
Dick Harris Co.
6200 Riverview Terrace
Title: President
YLA2�3TNG CO'�AiL55701Q t�:EfiZNG M-ARCH 5, 198+? ____ TAGS 6
Page 2 -
List of Non-Homestead Real Property Located within L-he City of Fridley which
I currently have financial interest in:
1315-17 77th Ave. N.E.
7710-7720 Main St. N.E.
7780-7790 Main St. N.E.
7701-7703 Maia St. N.E.
7765-7775 Main St. N.�.
Thank you,
Dick Harris
ADSOURNr1E1V'T :
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to adjourn tha meeting.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris declared the March 5, 1980,
Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 9:37 p.m.
ftespectfully submitted,
C� � ,L//C,Q- %L��--.�
L e Saba
Recording Secretary
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PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNINr, COMMISSION
Notice is hereby given that there will be a public Hearing of th�
Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431
University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, March 12, 148Q
in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Special Use Permit, SP# 80-,02,
by the Anoka County Task Force for Battered Women,
per section 205.051, 3, F, to operate a facility
for battered women and children on Lots 18, 19, 20
and 27, :including the West 1/2 alley vacated J/24/64
lying adjacent thereto, Block 3, Oak Grove Addition.
to Fridley Park, located in the North Ralf of
Section 13, T-30, R-24, City of Fridlgy, County
of Anoka, Minnesota.
6enerally located in the 6600 block of Arthur Street
N.E.
Any and a11 persons desiring to be heard sha17 be 9iven an.opportunity
at the above stated time end place.
RICHARD H, HARRIS
CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Publish: March 5, 1980
March 12, 1980
Planning Commission March 4, 1980
City Council
MAILING LIST
SP #80-02 ANOKA COUNTY TASK FORCE FOR BATTERED WOMEN
Pam Palmer �
Carol Erickson
Moka County Task Force
P.O. Box 131
Anoka, MN 55303
County of Anoka
Bnoka County Court House
Albert Kordiak
325 Main Street
Anoka, Mn 55303
Mr. & Mrs. Robert Michalski
for Battered Women 6655 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Matthew Rowles
6640 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Arthur Demeyere
6620 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Arthur Waldon
6600 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Curtis Hagen
6611 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Franklin Stokes
6645 Arthur Street N.E.
fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Donald Peterson
1607 Bunker Lake Blvd.
Anoka, Mn 55313
Mr. Roger Weitnauer
6562 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Gary Longerbone
6670 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Ronald Youngdahl
6660 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Gerald Applin
6650 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
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Mr. & Mrs. Joseph Michalski
6665 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
School District #14
60d0 West Moore Lake Drive
Fridley, Mn 55432
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Has the present applicant previously soughi to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or
var.iance or special use permit on the subject site or art of it? yes � no.
What was requested and tiahen? ,%��7� �e S U S � 3� � ___
The undersigned undersLands that: (a) a list of all residents and owners of property
within 30� feet (350 feet for re2oning) must be attached to this application.
(b) This application must be signed by all otianers of the property, or an explanatioit
given why this is not the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings
resulting from the failure to list tha names and addresses of all residents and
property owners of property in question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure mu�t be drawn and attached, showing the
folloiaing: 1. North Direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setbacks.
4. Street Names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 300 fectl.
The undersigned hereUy declares that all the facts and representations stated in this
application are true and correct.
DATE� .�G- d'�5
Date Filed
Date of llearing
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CO U NTY OF ANOKA 2�
O�ce aJ�he Cauntr Board ojCommissioners
COURTHOUSE ANOKA, MtNNESOTA 55303 612-421-4760
February 13, 1980
Ms. Carol Erickson
Anoka County Task Fo�ce £or
Battesed Women
P. �. Box 131
Anoka, Minnesota 55303
Dear Ms. Erickson:
R�'CEIVED
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I am pleased to advise you that the AnoY.a County Board of
CommiSSioners at their most recent r�eeting on.February 13,
29II0, authorized a contract and lease agreement with t'r.e
Anoka County Battered Yiomen Task Force for a County oumed
facility. The location of this facility is in the Oal: Grove
Addition of Fridley Park in the City of Fridley, Lots 18,
19, 20 and 21, Block 3 including the west 1/2 alley vacated
7/20/64 lying a�'jaeent thereto.
For your information please find attached resolution #QO-21
which was.approved by the Board.
The Caunty Soard recognizes the accomplishments of the Task
Force for Battered Fdomen here in Aaoka County and is pleased
to be able to support your effort.
I will be contacting your staff in the near future with a
draft lease agreement.
With personal regards, I am.
Sincerely,
Ralph L. McGinley
County Administrator
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2112/80 RESOLUTION N0. 80-21
DATE
OFFERED BY COMMISSIONER O' Bannon
COUS3TY BOARD SUPPORT FOR SATTERED WOMEN PROGRAM
- . I!3 ANORA COUNTY �
WHEREAS�, the Anoka County Task Force for Battered Women was .
formed in 1977 as a pcivate corporation comprised of volunteer
citizens of Anoka County who are concerned-with the needs and
p=oblems.oE battered women and their children; and, .
WHLREAS, since its inception, the Task Force has provided
� service�,in the area of advocacy, telephone crisis lines, short
term emergency housing and resource referrals to citizens of
Anoka County who are in need of these type of services; and�a
WHEREAS, the Anoka Couniy Task Force for Sattered Women has
recently received an 18 month grant from the State Departrnent of
Corrections in the amount of $113,000 for the provision of a
sheltes facility for Anoka County residents; and,
WHEREAS, the Task Foxce has received btoad based support for :
� theis•activities and encouzagement for the development of a �
ahelter facility; and, �
WHgREAS, the Anoka County Task Force has presented a proposal
to the Anoka County Hoard of Commissioners requesting consideration
of a lease aqreement for County owned property to be used as the
sheltered facility as prescribed Eor in the State Department of
. Corrections Grant; and�
WHEREAS, the Anoka County Board of Commissioners, on July 24,
1979�� by.way of Resolution �79-93, did provide its support in
coacept of the funding proposal to the State Depart�nent of Corrections
and further recognized the service needs.of women and children
who have sufEered £rom domestic abuse: �
HIOWr THEREFORE. BE ZT RESOLVED by the Anoka County Board of �
Commissioners that they do hereby concur with and approve of the
reguest as presented to the County Board by the Anoka County Task
Force fox Battered Women and £urther�direct the County Administration
Office to prepare the appropriate contsactual and lease-agreements �
with the Anoka�County Battered Women's Task Force in accordance
with�the County Attorney as to form�and legality. �
BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that copies�of th3s resolution be fOrwarded
to Ms. Carol.Erickson, Chairperson for the Anoka County Task Force
foY Battered Women and Mr. Robest W. Johnson, County Attorney.
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TYPE OF RCQUEST '
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Special Use Permit
Approval of Premin-
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PRQPERTY OWNER'S SIGNATURE � Streets or Alley
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Acreage of Property ����Describe br.iefly the proposed zoning ciassification
or type of use and improvement proposed ,f�%- . l,G�uf ���" f�
Has the present applicant p�viously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part af it? yes no.
h'hat was requested ard when?
The undersigned understands that: (a) a list of aIl residents and owners of property
within 30G feet (350 feet for rezoning) must be attached to this application.
(b) This application must be signed by all oianers o£ the property, or an explanation
given why this is not the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings
resulting from the failure to list the names and addresses of all residents and
property owners of property in question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must Ue drawn and attached, shotiaing the
following: 1. North Direction. 2. Location, of proposed structure on the lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setbacks.
4. Street Names, 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 300 feet).
The widersigned ltereby declares that all acts and represent� stated in this
application are true and correct.
DATE � SIGNATURE /
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CITY' OF FRIDLEY
6d31 llNIVEPSITY AVENUE N.f., fRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 55432
TELEPNONE (872)571-3450
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TO WNOM IT MAY CONCERN:
On March 19, 1980, the Planning Cortenission of the City of Fridley
will be holding an i�formalo earing at 7:30 P.M. on a request by 6erald
Pacshke to Vacate 60' x 100 utility easement between Lots 12 and 5,
Block 2, Paco Industrial Park, between 7280 Co�renerce Circle East and 7281
��mmerce Circl'e West so tfie two 6uildings can be attached with_a 6�'_ x 1�0'
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Addition. We would appreciate a written response to this request from your
utility company before the date of this informal hearing.
Thank you,
RICHARD N. HARRIS
CHAIRMAN
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION
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Planning Coirunission
6431 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Minnesota 55432
Attention: Mr. Richard N. Narris
Dear Mr. Harris:
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Northwestem Bell
65A0 Shingle Creek Parkway
Brooklyn Center, MN 55430
March 12, 1980
This is to inform you that the Northwestern Bell Telephone Com-
pany does not now and will not have in the future any telephone
facilities in the easement vacation requested by Mr. Gerald
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gjJ,SAN RESOURCES CONIIiCSSION
MEETING
MARCH 6, 1980
'G�,LL TO ORDER:
'Vice=Chairperson CaYpenter called the March 6, 1980, Auman Resources Commission
�eeting to ordeY at 7:38 p.m.
itOLL CALL :
Members Present; Marlyis Carpenter, Mary van Dan, Wayne Welch, Wayne Saunders,
Jayne Noble (new commission member as of 4/1/80)
Members Absent: Yeter Treuenfels
'Others Present: Mary Cayan, Human Services Assistant
3ulie Quarve-Peterson, Minnesota 5tate Council for the Handicapped
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 7 1950, HUMAN RESOURCES COI�AIISSION MINUTES:
_MOTION by PIs, van Dan, seconded by Mr. We1ch, to approve the Feb. 7, 1980,
-3luman Resources Commission minutes as written. IIpon a voice vote, alI voting
aye,�V-ice-Chairperson Cazpenter declared the motion carried unanimously.
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OF PUBLIC BUILDINGS FOR TH� HA
3�fs, Quarve-Peterson stated she was with the Minnesota State Council for the
ilandicapped located in St. Paul. The Council for the Handicapped was formed
about 3-4 years ago by the StaCe Legislature. The State Legislature allotted
=money for their staff to be advocates for handicapped individuals. They are
i:nvolved in a variety of activities state-wide. They work with individuals
directly, they have a t�11-free number and get calls from all over the state
�Yelating to transportatien, employment, housing, insurance, and medical problems.
They promote legislation and this session they are supporting Yhree bi11s which
they drafted themselves, They work with the State Building Code and promote
accessible housing.
Ms. Quarve-Peterson stated her title is Accessibility Specialist. She is in
that position temporarily, taking Harold Kewald's position who is on loan to
another agency. She stated she has been in that position since Jan. 2, but she
has been active in the handicapped organization for 2'� years. She has worked
for the National Handicappe.d Housing Institute, which is located in Minneapolis,
and does research, developmenty and construction of housing for the handicapped.
The latest of the apartmenC complexes is Seward Square, an 81-unit apartment
building £or the handicapy4d located in Minneapolis,
H[TMAN f;ESOTJRCES COMMISSIUN ME�TING NIARCH 6 1980 PAGE 2
Ms. Quarve-Peterson stated that Minnesota is the leader in accessibility £or
the handicapped individuals. Because of that, Minnesota has one of the largest
handicapped populations. Approximately 10-17% of Minnesota's population is
mobility-impaired. That also includes the elderly. Minnesota also has the
largest concentration of elderly, so there is a great demand for accessibility
in a c mm�unity .
Ms. Quarve-Peterson stated she had some brochures and publications she had
brought along £or the Cammission to look at. One was "Accessible Architecture"
put out by Harold Kewald. She stated there is a chapter of the Building Code
called Chapter 55 which deals specifically with the building code for handi-
capped design. This booklet took every item and illustrated it. It was an
easy-to-follow publication for organizations, designers, architects, and
concerned citizens. She stated that Chapter 55 also applies to all new
cons truction.
Ms. quarve-Peterson stated there was then the National Building Code which is
the "ANSII Standards" (American National Standards Institute). This addressed
the same type of issues as Chapter 55, but in more detail.. This applied to
all government buildings, anyone receiving federal funds directly or indirectly,
and applied to all remodeling of SCP/, or more of the value of a structure.
Those required to follow these standards are schools, public buildings, libxaries;
and, for exa�ple, Hor.eywell, because they receive fedaral grants.
Ms. Quarve-Peterson stated that 504 was the Federal Regulation which sta:ed
that anyone receiving federal funds must be accessible, and the deadline date
is June 2, 1980. 'rhis was inacted two years ago, Ida.nety percenC of the bui':dings
now are aowhere neer being accessible. By accessible, it did not mean the
sYructure must be accessible, but the programs must he aecessible. She wanted
L-o make that very clear, because in many cases there are buildings that are
impossible to make accessible because of cost or sentiment, such as historicaZ
buildings. For example, at the Univercity of Minnesota, it is not necessary
that every building have an elevator serving every floor. In ihe Physics
building, they can reschedule classes in a case-by-case study. If there is
a student that requires special needs such as being mobility-impaired, that
class can be rescheduled in a first-floor room which is accessible...or they
can provide an interpreter for someone hearing-impaired. There are many ways
to meet the 504 Fegulation.
Ms. Quarve-Peterson stated she has been traveling all over the state surveying
buildings and trying to work with the people to see what would work best for
each facility.
Ms. Quarve-Peterson stated she had brochures on the two handicapped housing
complexes, Seward Square, and Lewis Park located in St. Paul which is opening
up this fall.
Ms. Quarve-Peterson shok�ed the Co�issioners an information guide on the
services of the National Handicapped Housing Institute, an access guide fram
Brooklyn Park entitled, "A Guide for the Ilandicapped", and the "Minneapolis
Building Accessibility List". She stated the two access guides might be very
helpful to the Commission and they couid use tiiem as a basis for their own
survey.
HUMAId RESOURCHS COI�SMI5SION MEETING MAP.CH 6 1980 PAGE 3
Ms. Quarve-PeCerson sCated that May 18-24 is the Natioaal Handicapped
Awareness Week. She is the state coordinator for that, and she has some
50 community coordinators in key locations throughout the state, This year
the focus will be on an information-providing week. She has put together
packets of information for each coordinator, and they are coordinating things
such as different organizations setting up booths with informaCion at
shopping malls and libraries having current information. She stated the
Governor's Conference would be 9.n October at the Civic Ceneer.
Ms, Quarve-Peterson stated that mental illness, mental retardation, and
learning disabilities are all included under the title "handicapped". She
stated the Council for the Handicapped is basically a referrall agency.
Ms, Quarve-Peterson stated she would show a slide presentation and then.if
the Cosanissioners had any questions, she would be glad to answer them.
Ms, van Dan stated that Ms. Quarve-Peterson had said she travels all over
the state to do surveys. Ms, van Dan asked if she was sent out Yo do this
or if people called requesting it and was there a fee?
Ms. Quarve-Peterson stated people in coumiunities usually call requesting her
to come oat and do a survey. There is no fee. For example, if she were called
to do an accessibility survey of Fridley, she would set a date, come out and
go around to all the public buildings in Friuley following the Building Code.
She stated she usually sits down with the people after the survey [o discuss
u�hat she nas found. She then wi11 prepare a report, indicating what is nee.ded
aad where people can go fox assistance.
Ms. Carpenter stated that an accessibility survey of Fridley was something the
Commission,had been thinking of doing as a co�ission. She stated that what
the Co�ission wanted to do about an accessibility study for the City of
Fridley should be discussed at the ner.t Commission meeting.
Ms, Caxpenter thanked Ms. Quarve-Peterson for her excellent presentation.
2. INTRODUCTION OF JAYNE NOBLE NEW COPAffSSION MEMBER (Term Begins 4/1/80):
Ms. Carpenter welcomed Ms. Noble and stated that Ms. Noble would be replacing
her on the Commission effective April 1.
Ms, Noble stated she has Lived in Fridley for eight years. She is a wife and
mother of three children and works with her husband in their insurance
business.
3.
THE FINAL DRAFT OF GUIDELINES FOR THE
Ms. Cayan stated 'she had incorporated the changes requested by the Commission
at the last meeting and the Commission members had the.final draft of the
"Guidelines for the Prioritization of Punding Requests".
I3tJt✓�E:T] RESOUP,CES C�.�-fCSS7AN I✓iLCTTVG MAP.CH 6 19F30 PAGE 4
Ms, Carpenter thanked Ms, Cayan for a very good job in preparing these
guidelines.
THROUGH PLANNIIrTG COMMISSION TAE AYPROVAL OP 'I.'HESE GUITJELINES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER DEGLAnED Tii�
MOTION CARRIED UNANIP;OUSLY,
4. REPORT ON MEETINGS WITH C.A,P, AND THE CITY OF COON RAPIDS - MARY CAYAN:
Ms. Cayan stated the Commission members had copies of inemos of both meetings,
Memo i�80-17 dated Feb. 17, 1980, on the meeting with the Anoka Couaty Co�unity
Action Program, and Memo ii80-18 dated Feb. 21, 1980, on the meeting with
Don Wegscheider of the North Suburban Family Center of Coon $apids.
D1s. Cayan stated that her main impression from both meetings was again the
lack of coordination between community services in the county.
Ms. Cayan stated there is currently a county needs assessment in progress.
She attended the initial workshop for that where approximately 35 service
prov£ders from throuJhoue the county gathered to discuss t,ie county's needs.
One of the Chiags that came out of thst discuesiou was the n�eu for an
inforn:ation referral center and the need �o establish co�unicaticn through
the service provider�,so that has gone on record as gart- of the covnty's
n�eds assessment.
Ms. Cayan stated she is trying to set up a meeting with the Unity Hospital
Social Service Department, ar.d at this poiat, that will be the last meeting.
Sh=_ wi11 then put together a composite summary of all the meetings:.,
5. DISCUSSION OF THE POSSIBITITY OF A JOINT MGETING WITH COON RAPID6 A?QD
THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RiGHTS:
t4s. Cayan stated that before the Stata Department of Human Rights would send
someone out to speak to the Commission membezs, they would like the Commission
�embers to read the "No Fault Grievance Procedure" manual. After that, a
meeting can be set up between Coon Rapids, the Fridley Human Re�ources
Coun�ission, and the State Department of Human Rigiits.
Ms. Carpenter stated the Co�ission members should read this and it could be
discus�ed again at the next meeting.
6. DISCUSSION OF ELECTION OF COMMISSION OFFICERS FOR 19&0-81:
Ms, Carpenter stated that this election would take place at the April meeting
when Ms. Nohle was officially a member o£ the Co:rnnission.
I�UMAN RGSOURCES CONII�CSSIGN MEETZNG r�RCH 6, 1980 PAGE 5
7. OTHER BUSINESS:
A. Commission Representative to the Central Center for Family Resources:
Ms. Carpenter stated that she had been appointed by the Commission as
a member of the Advisory Council of the Central Center for Family
Resources located in Spring Lake Park. This was also an agency funded
by the City of Pridley. Because she was leaving the Co�ission, a
new member would have to be appointed to this Advisory Council. She
stated the meetings are held quarterly and she would attend the
March 13 meeting.
Ms. Noble sCated she would be willing to serve on that Advisory Council
as a representative of the Iiuman Resources Commission,
MOTION by Mr. Welch, seconded by Ms. van Dan, to appoint Jayne Nob1e
to the Advisory Council of the Central Genter for Family Resourres
(replacing Marlyis Carpenter) effective April 1, 1980. Upon a voic.e
vote, a11 voting aye, �Iice-Chairperson Carpenter declared the motion
carxied unanimously.
B. Fzidley Ethnic Festival:
Ms. Cayan stated the Comm�ission was invited to the second annual
Sxidley Bthnic Festival on Saturday, March 29, at ParY.v9ew Schooi.
The festi.vaL features booths, food, music, and crafts. Admission
is $1.50 for adults and 59p for ct�ildren.
C. Special Recognition:
Mr. Saunders stated he would like to give a special thank-you to
Mary Cayan for the work she hzs done for the Commission. It was
very much appreciated.
Mr. Welch stated he felt a letter of thanks should go to
Julie Quarve-Peterson, thanking her for her willingness to come
and speak to the Cov�ission, for her explanatiAn of the functions
of the Council for the Handicapped; and for her presentation on
accessibility for the handicapped.
The Coum�ission members concurred with Mr. Welch's sugges*_ion.
Ms. van Dan stated she would like to express the Co�ission's
appreciation to Marlyis Carpenter for her service to the Commission.
MOTION by Mr. Welch, seconded by Mr. Saunders, to adjourn the meeting. Upon a
voice vote, a11 voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Carpenter declared the March 6, 1980,
Human Resources Commiesion meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
Respectfully su mitted,
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LC.Y�-G�._
Lynn Saba, lecording Secretary
CALI� TO 0:',DyR
CITY OF F12IDL�.Y `
Vice-Cha_irperson Gabel called the ;+�iarch 1S, 1980 meeting of
the Appeals Cor.,mission to order at 7,30 P.PS.
ROLL CALL
Members Presents b:s. Gabel, ;�ir. Barna, i�9r. Kemper, "�ir. Plemel
P�9enbers Absent: fQs. Schnabel
O�thers Present: Clyde ::oravetz, City oi Fridley
i.iary and Jim :;:itchell, 8120 :tuth Circle
Floyd and :lalter Uustavson, 7�+10 Central N.i:.
Perry Colstrom, 575o iGadison St. N.�.
AP?ROVAL OF APP�ALS COi��i,IISSION i.iFNUT�S+ FEBRU9RY 12, 1980
i�iDTION by :+":r. Barna, seconded by 'r,:r. Ke�:per to approve the
the rebruary 12, 1980 Appeals Commission Niinutes, as written.
UPOiV A VOIC� VOTE, ALL VOTING AY�, VIC::-CHAI:4PSRSON GABEL
AECLARBD THi i::OTION PASSLD UNANI=�;OUSLY.
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3equest by Gustavson Brothers
0 Central Avenue N.E., Fridley,
P�,OTION by �4r. Barna, seconded 'oy T�Ir. Ken�er, to open thz Public
H e aring .
UPON A VOIC� VOTE, ALZ VOTIidG AI'E, VI��-CH9IRPyRSON GAB�L DECI,ARED'
THE PUBLIC HEARING OP.EIJ AT 7:35 P.T�i.
�is. Gabel read the staff report:
Api�tIN1STRl1TIV[ STA�F f;EPORT
7410 Central Av_cnue td.E.
A. PU[31_IC PURP05E SERVFD QY RF UIRE�4ENT:
Section 205.1.34, �46, �il, requires the side yard setback to be a minimum
of 30 feet when a driveeray is provided in the side yard,
Public pimpose serve<i by this requirement is to p��ovide adequate open
space areas ai-ound industrial structures for aesthetic and fire fighting
purposes.
Section 'L05.135, lE, #'4, requires off sl:reet parking to be a minimum of
5 feet from the main building.
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Public purpose served by this requirement is to protect the building
from unnecessary maintenance duA to vehicles hitting the buildin9.
B. STATED fiARDSNIP:
(i} Request building set back of 25 feet from lot line in two loading
dock areas. Docks must be 10 feet wide for accessability. Loss
of laadin9 docks ivou7d preclude building of the preposed addition.
(2) Request a decrease in width of building curb to 2 feet in the area
adjacent to the loading docks. L'se of 5 foot curb would result in
]5 foot drive width; the additional width makes the docks more
readily accessible to truck use.
C. AD�tINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
(1) In reviewing the possible alternatives with the petitioner, the
petitioner decided that they were not acceptable. They were;
(a} Put the docks on the rear of the building (grade not feasible).
(b} Reduce the widtti so as to tuck the dccks Farallel to th�
addition and fa�e the docks west off tha existing building
(reduction in adqition was not acceptable).
(cj Eiiminate.the 7oading docks (both existing ienants need the
loading docks).'`
Jf the Qoard approves this item and item #2, it will leave roam
for an 18 foot wide drive which wiil leave ro�m for two vehicles
to roeet. Therefore,`we do not have any'staPf stipulations that
a�e would recommend.
(2) If item NI is approved, �ve would recomm�nd that item #2 also Ue
appi•oved so as to provide an 1F3 foot driveway, The requi.red 5 feet
is necessary where cars are parked into the curb. In this instance>
there will be nu parking along this curb.
The Petioneers were present. i,1r. Gusta•rson stated that the
proposed addition requ�.res loading �3ocks both North, and South•
a,nd tc get the loading'docks they are shart five feet on the
setback. He further stGted tnat they are also requesting a
reductian in the curbin� frc+m iive to ti•ra feet. The Commission
meMbers and the petion�ers then exaroined the plans that they
have subraitted.
::ir. Gustavson expl,�ine�1 +hat they have a�.r3.nd'zng business,
and that the soutn hslf of the building is an zce factorJ, and
that they are running au+ of space a.�d require more space.
i�is. Ga.bel questionad wiiat buS.lding ,vere next to their business?
Dir. Gustavson stated that or, one si.de was the trailer park, and
on the other was Spiral ;ca;_u.facturing, and Dick's Auto Parts.
Als. Gabel questioned h�w doe„ the traffic flow there?
r+',r. Gusta•rson stated tnat sUC:;e lar�;� tracks go arounci, but that
most en tsr and leave oCi 'the �,ic�e thrat t:�ey are dealin� with.
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AAAeal.s Commission �5eetin� Psarch 11� 1980 PaQe 3
Mr. Gabel asked i£ they are dea�ing with big seMi's? '
P+1r. Gustavson stated that there are occasional ser�i's, but
that is not the general rule, because they rni�ht only have
one semi a week.
Ms. Gabel questioned what type of business they were going
to have in the part of the building that would be rental?
I+T�. Gustavson stated that they have tenatively rented the
spa.ce to another gr.inding shop, only they would do a different
type of grinding.: This he stated would be a one, or two :aan
shop. He further stated that the only other one they have
discussed it tvith was proposing to salvaging engines from
cars and installing thern in other auto�:�obiles. i�ir. Gustavson
stated that they would prefer to get anotner nachine shop
in the rental area.
£�Zs.. Gabel stated that she would like a clarification on what
the rental side would be used for in the case of engines.
P�Ir. Gustavson explained that right now Dick's is towing
the-cars in but that he is not involved with the crushing, and
the junk yard business. He stated that it was his undersianding
that Dick's was looking for a place to operate his towing
business.
bSs. Gabel_stated that what she was looking at, was avoiding
any storage of junit on this property also, because that has
been a problem in the past.
Idir. Gustavson stated that this stipulation o£ not storing any
junk or excess-car parts would have to be written into a lease.
T�ir. Ker�per questioned if these would be covered docks?
Mr. Gustavson stated that yes they would be covered docks.
h:r. Gustavson further stated that he gave the City the under-
standing, and it would be written into the leases, that there
would be provisions for inside storage of trash, with no out-
side provisions for trash.
i�s. Gabel questioned•the plans for landscaping?
ilir. Gustavson stated that there is now Black Hills Spruce and
they would be putting in cedar trees along the retaining wall.
He further stated that there are plans to put in a privacy
fence.
Ivlr. Barna questioned ��Ir. �,ioravetz, if there is adaquate parking
facilities provided for.the square foot of the building?
hir. �,oravetz stated that yes there was.
;AOTION by i�Sr. Plenel, seconded by :;ir. Kenper, to close the Public
Hearing.
Appeals Co�l�nission '+lee�inp_ ��:;xrch 11. 19E30 Page 4
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UPON .A VOIC: VOTE, ALL'VOTING AYE, VIC�-CHAI�rlO.:�AN GAB�L,
D:�:CLe��23D TH:: PII13LIi. HEhnII3G CLOai:D A'P $.; 00 P.:lI.
c80TTON by 'v1r. Kemper, seconded by ;:ir. P]_erael, -to recon�mend to
the Cit,y Council that v�riance r.equests pursuant to Chapter 205
of the Fridley City Code to'reduce i;he mini:num requirenent where
a drivesvsy is to be providec� in the side yard, fro� 30 feet to
25 feet, on both the Nqrth a,nd Soutr, lines of the property; and
reciuce the drivewa,y paveaient fro�� the required five feet fro.n
the :�ain building to 2 Yeet, on both the i�torth and South sides
of the main building, located on Lot 1, B1ock 1, Central View
^danor 5econd Additzon, ihe sane being 7�10 Central 9ve. N.i.,
Fridley, ;;inn. (Rc:que�t by Gustavson Brothers (Floyd A. and
Pdalter .?.) 7410 Central Ave. N.�., Fridley, .:innesota Sa�3z)•
UPON A VOIC?' !lOT� ;1LL. u0TI1`IG AYy, VTC3-C}i.9IR�V0:;AN GAByL D�CLARr,D
THE ;;�OTIQN PASScJ 'JNANk:�:OJSLY.
;�is. Gabel stated that this ite� would be on the April 7, 1980
City Council agenda.
2.
110TION by :'�;r. Kemper, seconded by P,ir. Barna, to open the
Public :iearing.
UPON A VOICE VOT��, ALL VOTIN� AYE, 'JICE'-QHAIRPEi�SOP1 GABEL
DECiAR�D THy PUBLIO H�A3ING OPEN AT 8s03 P.i�l.
5ia. Gabel asked the pet�.tioneers, !'+Ir. & i+irs. Janes t�ietchell, to
step £orward. c�,s. Gabei i:hen read the staff reports
ADt•tIt�ISTRATIVE ST(1FF REPO�T
E31`20 Ruth C i rcl e W, E. '
A. PUBLIC f'URPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMEIdT:
Section 205.053, 4G, reguires a rear yard depth of not less than 25
percent of the lot depth with not less than 25 feet permitied or more
than 40 feet required. '
Public purpose served ba� this requirement is to provide rear yard space
to Ee used for green areas yrhich enhance the neighborhood.
t3. STATED NARDSHIP:
Keed additional living area for expanding family and better privacy.
C. 11DMIfSISTRATIVE STAf'F RE4tIEtJ:
If the rieighbers have ro objeetion to this variance being granted, tfie
staff has no stipu?ations Lo reconrnend to the Board if approved,
APP�P.�� COi��MISSION 'r`EETING �+iarch 11 r 19E30 Pa�'e �
f;s. G�bel asked if i�ir. & t.rs. i.?itchelZ, would tell the Commission
what their proposed plan is �or?
i�Zr. i9itchell st��ted that their pl:�n is to place a screened in
parch in the back of their home. He further stated that
currently that space is occupied by a deck, and that b�sically
what they vrant to do is enclose the deck, so that this would
provide r.:ore privacy from what is alr.eady a small backyard.
Ths Cor�mission ,nenbers then studied the proposed plan and a
snapshot the petitioneers provided, showing the back yard
and deck.
1;r. ;�:itchell stated that there plans are for-a 14 X 10 screened
in porch on the �Jest side of the house. He further stated that
they plan to retain the now 6 iC 10 3eck, and enclosing the top,
but riot the bottom.
Ms. Gabel questioned if this �vas going to be just a screened in
porch, or an all year round porch?
birs. P,Iitchell stated that it would be a three season porch, and
that it would not Be heated.
Iv1r. Yemper questioned if the footings would be satisfactory.
Z+ir. P�ii�Cchell stated th�i -the contractor h3d t?lked about prett�
much taking the deck down and would r�quire a nevr foundation to
be put in.
Idr. Kemper. then questioned what then would they use to hold
the deck up?
NIrs. T+.itchell stated that they would probably use the floor,
and the footings, and then put in addi�tion�;l footings. and a`
support beam,
i+lr. Kemper stated that what his question was, was that at present,
they Must have so:�e sort of ti:!bers holding the deck up, so since
they would be redoing the footings, what are the support :�embers
going to look like?
:Rr. &:.Irs. :ditchell stated that they would have basically the
sa�e support pillars put in.
:Qr. Kemg,er stated that he was wondering about this from an
esthetic standpoint.
��9s. Gabel questioned if they would have a contractor do the work?
'a2r. l�iitchell stated that yes they would have a contractor do this
work.
AloUeals COmraisslOn 'ieet�n�' �[arch 1.1. 1480 Fa�e 6
lair. Ke.nper questioncad, whst xoom does the doo.r to the 'deck
presently enter.• iri to?
Mr. �„itchell stated that it is entering into the living room.
Ns. Gabel stated that she felt that thia hardship, as state6,
in the st,:iff repart, was ra.-+.her general, and that in order to
grant a variance, the hardship has to be a�plicable. :+is. Gabel
then qu.estioned, if the petitioneers could elaborate a little
more?
rytrs. ilitchell stated thzt ri7ht now with the sliding glass door
in the living roor:., it �raas I.ike living in a fish bowl. She
further. stated tha.t in the ^,ummer t2e drapes have to be closed
all the ti;ne. She sta,t�d t�at they do not use their deok at
all right now because'you a`re like right up on a perch, znd
being on the corner, everyone comirg off of ::uth 5treet, and
around 3uth Circle caa� see averything. She further stated that
their other al�err,atiue was to put a huge priva.ey fence in,
but since neither their nei�hbor, nor the,nselves have huge
backyards, they didn't feel that it would be agreeable.
M r. Barna stated that tnis screened p�rch, would keep the su�mmer
sun off the living room', s�ving on air conditior�ing, �d giving
winter sun so that it:may be used �artially in the winter..
:�Is. Gabel stated that there }vas not T,uch of a.ny growth in
that area. She tren quesi.iaried if the :+iitchells had taLked
with any of their nei�;hbors about this addition?
'.�4r. i,iitchell st3ted that yes in the beginning they ��entioned
ii; to the neighbors, and speci_fically to the neighbor behind
them, and they though`t it vrould be great.
�10TION ,by ".�r. Kemper,' seconded by .,�r. Barna, to close the
Publie Hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, AL�, VOTTNG AYE, VI£�-CHAIRPERSON GABEL
DECLARED TH� PUBLIC H�ARTTQG CLOSSD AT �3:16 P.��i.
��ir. Kenper si:ated that he ���ould like to resta.te the hardshin,
for the record. i�.r. ;�empe,� stated that the hardship should
be stated as follows�` '
"need additi�nal livin,g area fcr ex.panding family, and _
more privacy, baeaus? the existin�; deck cannot be used,
because it cannot be ccreene3 fr�c� con�nicuous view,
because it is elevated, and on a doub.e frontage lo�."
;�1s. Gabel stated that she �rreuld like t� see the hardships
stated in less �Pner�;l term.e, becaase they.are_still tending
to be va�;ue, when they ca�a.e befc>z� the Comn,ission. 3he further
' stated tiiat it should ?�e s'tressed ta s11 petitioneers for a
variance request, that' thi� is an iaipor��t cri�teria for the
graalting of a varianc� req�zest.
Ap�„��'s C�mrlis�ion GleetinF P��arch 11, 1980 Pa�e 7
N:OTIQN by ;�Ir. Plemel, �econded by:�r. Kemper, to approve
v�riance request pursuant to Ch�pter 20$ of the Fridley City
Code,.to reduce the rear.yard depth fr.o:n the xequired 26�feet,-
(2�,6 of the ye�r yard depth) to 18.5 feet, �o allo�v a ten_foot
addition to an er.isting dwelling located on Lot 3, B1ock �F,
Bourdeaux's Spring Brook 4dditiori, the sacue.being 8120 Ruth
Cirele N.i., Fridley, :Iinnesota. (i?equest by James ,::itchell,
8120 Ruth Circle NrE., Fridley, .dinnesota 55�32•)
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WiINPi^cSDTA. i3equest by :'aridon and Carol Colstroc�,
102 Osborne �oad N.L., Fridley, i'�iinnesota 55�32)•
ivTOTION by Pdr. Barria, seconded by i+ir. Plemel, to open the Public
H earing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL V�TING .'-1YB, VICE-CH9IRWOt,iAIV GABEL
DECLARED THS PUBLIC ii�ARING OPEN AT 8:25 P.L�.
his. Gabel asked the petitioneer i.:r. Colstrom to step Porward.
Pfr. Plemel questioned i£ the home was totally destroyed?
yir. Colstsom stated tnat yes, it had to be torn down.
ials. Gabel questioned v✓hen did this fire ha.ppen?
D1r. Colstrom stated that it happened February 16th, and the
fire•is still under investigation. He further stated that they
were`on vacation at the time of the fire.
Pr:r. Colstrom stated that he �,YOUld like to put a two foot
cantileder both in front and in the back to give the,:� more space.
P.1s. Gabel noted that it had a detached garage, she questioned
if the fire got the garage.
i�.r. Colstrom stated that no the garage was not dama�ed.
i��r. Kec�per questioned wh3t type of driveway they have, and if
it was damaged by any of the iire figYiting equipment?
bir. Colstrom stated that they have an asphalt driveway, and no,>
it �vas not damaged.
NIr. Plemel stated that it appeared that every house was setback
35 feet.
A�1r. Kemper questioned what size the foundation was?
Apne:�Is Gon:rris:,ion Iieetin� [uiarch 11. 1 Fi9 o Pa€�e 8
yir. Colstrom stated that it was 25 :C 40 feet, and he believed
that was the outside �i:�ensior.s.
Bir. Y.ecnper questicned if he'was proposin� ta make a building
that would be 4�0 X 2.9 feet?
➢'�r. Colstr��a stated that would be a.ppror.�.mately the size. He
stated tha.t he v��s not g�ing to go the full with of the building
with the overheng. He stated that what he would like to do,
would be to �o a foot out, for about or.e-ha.lf the house,
and go out about tv�o £eet o}� the bedroc�ms, and the same two
faet on the back wa11.
f+1r, Ker.per questicned if it vras a three bedroom home originally?
;:4r. Colstrom sta.ted trat he believed tha't vras what they called
it, but they used the one room as a diriing roorn that was a
walk th:~ough. He stated'that it wa� � Donnay house. He stated
they would like to open it up and have a kitchen, dining roon,
ax�d fa;�ii.ly roon combinatiom.
�ds. Gabel questioned how many bedroo.ms did tney plan ta have
then ��ith inis extra roo.�? '
:vir. Colstrom state3 that ha vras goi.ng to :na]te provisions for
two bedroo^s in the Pront, and a be3roam in the back, and a
bath, bu� that it would be jast one bed"room in the front. He
state� th?t he would ask tli� contractor rto fr�;r,e in for a�econd
door., Y�ut they would ,�ust sheetz•ack over`it, so if in the futixre
there would be need th�;� could just cut out the sneetrock, arid
put in a door.
P.�r. Kemper questioned if th� bath was presently in the front?
:=ir. Colstron stated that yes it was.
PrTs. Gabel questioned if thai was the oniy bath in �he house?
r�ir. Colstrom stated tha.t no, there was another bath in the
basemeni, and they pla.xined to nzove that to the rear. lie further.
stated that he would 2ike to raise it up one course of.block, azld
that presently it was about 7 1/4 ieet high.
n.r. Kernper questioned if tha.s was �asically the sane plan that
-they orginally had ��vith tne .doors in �the s��e pla:ce and the
stairs in the sarne place7
f..r, Colstron stated tY?�s. yes it was, the front and back doors,
and �tair� would stay't�e s�:ie, the only basic difference avould
be to move the bathrooins.
fur. Kemper questioned zf they would use 2 X!V or 2 X`6 wa11s?
P�1r. ColstroM stated ii: would be ?_ :: �F wa11s.
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n.,,,oa� r C.nmm�i a�i nri i,eetin� [+iarch 11 . 198� F,a„�,�
f,1s. Gabe1 questioned if Gir. Colstrom h�d talked to any'of the
neighbors about this?
idr. Colstror�� �tated that he has taZked to just one, and that
orte didn't know what a c:3aztilever was. i.ir. �olstrom stated
� that he felt this one neighbor probably had rnentioned it to
others though.
1vTS. Gabel stated that ;;1rs. Si:�on S.-.ith, of j730 uladison Street
N.E.-must have called, because she said they have no objection
to the two foot variance.
i:1s. Gabel stated that at this ti;ae she would l.ike to read
the stafi reports
ADMINISTRFTIVE STAFP R[PORT
5750 Madison 5treet W.E. .
A. PUDLIC PURPOSE SLRV[D DY REQUIREh1EWT:
Section 205.053, 4A, requires a front yard setback of not less than
35 feet.
Public purpose served by this requiranent is to allow for off-street
park9ng without encroaching on the public right of way and also for .
aesthetic consideration to reduce the "buildi»g line of sight° encroachment
into the neighbor's front yard.
B. STAT�D HARDSHIP:
Hane destroyed by fire and wants to rebuild on same foundation with
a tvro foot cantilever.
C. AII�iIIJISTRATIVE STAFF REVItW:
If the neighbors have no objection to this variance being grarited, th�
staff has no siipulations to recommend to the Board if approved.
After nuch discussion about how the hardship is stated, the
Commission mer,ibers stated th�.t that hardship should also include
'�etting the most room for the money, zxid make it �riore esthetically
pleasing'.
b3r. Barna questioned if iSr. Colstro�� planned to have a contractor
do the building?
i:ir, Colstron stated that a contractor would do all the work,
except the electricaZ, which he himself would do.
Anveals Commis�'son P-ieetin G1arch il, 1�0 _Page�2A
�,i0TI0fd by ?„r. Barna, seconded by :;r. Pl.e,ael, to close the Pablic
h e ari>ng .
UPOt1 A VOICE VOT�, ALL VOTING A�E, VICL-CHAIR'ttOAi+iAtQ GABLL,
DECLARED TH : PU BLIC HEAi�iING CI,OS��D Fli 8 i 40 P. ri.
::r. Barna stated that he could see the reasons for �:ir. Colstrams.
wantinF to build z].arger house, �Zd save the footin;;s,
though the hardship, is rather vague, it is still legible,
and understandable.
['t,OTION by ?ir. Barna, seconded by `,:ir. Ke^�per, 'co approve variance
request pursu.ant to Chapter ?05 �i the rridley City �cde, to
a11ow a dv;ellin� destroyed b�= fire �o oe cons�tructed on �he
same 2oundation, wi�th a 2 foot cantilever, which i•ri-'.3- reduce
the required front yard setback frora 35 feet to 33 fest, ori
- Lot 13, Block 8, Donnay's Lakeview :"anor, .the sa:�:e being
5750 ;:adison Street N.E. , Friciley, ,':innesota. (:equest by
Paridor. and Carol Colstrocr„ 102 Osborne �oad T1. E. , Fridley,
t+,innesota 55432.}
UPOPI � VOICS VOT::, 9LI, VOTINr AYE, VIC�-CItAIP,��dC,:;AN GABEL,
DECL'�RED TH:. ;,.OTIOPd PASS�D Ui1ANIi+:OUSLY.
4. 0`riii3$ SUSINESS:
T;is. Gabel stated she v��auld �.ike somethir.� done, so that the
�omro_issi.nn di.d net feel. that they had ta sea..: ^h out the real
hardsYiin a.n .requests for vaxiances. .
Y��r. Ple�;�el questioned ;,�r. +�oravet4 if the for::i s�ell� ou�t
i,hat a ha�°dship �;iu�t bs defined.
2.r, Moravetz stated that he would review and revise the variance
a�plicaiian form t+� clarify specific har.dships.
?�;r. Ker,ner su�gested that they should maYbe �tate t;h^.t the
petitioneer r.iust sho�+ a definite need, :^ather than ju�t a desire.
Discussion eneued on wa_ys to change the fo.rm to clariiy har�.-
ship.
P.!r. Ke�,per ^tated �that he v?ould Zilce to recon;_;�end that_the
forn be r.edesigned so �Y.�:t t'r.ere would t�c a tilock that woLtld
define the va.riance re�liest, and anotRer '>lock that �voulcl
define the ha.rdship, a�:d i:'i:en �� UreiS' s;t3.teraent, or instructinns
that would indicate that ynu m.ust snon� i;,ore t, an just a�esi.re
to reques-t a variance, but i:hat you must sho��v =� definite need.
AD JOU Rfv d tsP1'1' :
;vtOTION by ::Tr. Flemel, seconded by ,v:r. Ba.rna �G� adjourn.
UPON A VOIC� VOT1 3LL Vt7'TING AYE, VICS-GH�iI� J0':�i�'iN GraB' L D:'CL<'�iED
THi �.r�=:CH 11� 19£30, 4P?,:ALS �C�;i�::I:ialON ':1L.:iII`'C; ADJOU::A':;U .1T 8:�s� Y.,"I.
Respectfull �ubmitte�,
c� �`�' ��l
alaine i:�Ed
i�ecording 5ecretary -
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COi+@�A)NITY DEVELOPMENT COMMiSSION
MEETING
pfARCH 11, 1980
I
CALL TO ORDSR:
Chafrperson Oquist called the March 11, 1980, Community Deve2opment Coa�ission
meeting to order at 7:40 p.m. '
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: LeRoy Oquist, A1 Gabel, Connie Modig� Kenneth Vos,
Sharon Gustafson • •
2�Iembera Abaent: None
Others Preseat: Bill Deblon; Associate Planner
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 12 1480 COPA1UNiTY DEVELOPt9ENT COPII�IISSION MINUTES:
M(YLION by Mr. Gabel, secoaded by Mr. Vos, to approve the February 12, 1980,
Caomuaity:Development Commission minutes as written. Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Chairperaon Oquist declared the;motion carried unanimously.
1. RBCENB I30RTHERN STATES POWER COMPANY'S POWPR PLAt� PLANS:
MOTION by Mr. Gabel, seconded by Ms. Gustafson, to receive Northern States
Paaer Company's power plant plans. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Chairpexson Oquist declared the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Gabe1 stated he felt all the civic organisations in Fridley should be
notified of NSP's investigation of Fridley as a possible site for a 200 megawatt
power plant so there could be as much public input as possible. ,
Mr: Oquist stated this wae discussed at the Planning Commission, and it was
the feeling of some of the members that they did not think Fridley would be
choeen as a site for this power plant. For one thing, the Fridley site was
the smallest site. Also, it was located just:above the Riverside Plant so
there mighC be some concern about water quality. But, NSP is,looking at all
the sites.
TIx, Debloa stated these plans were passed down to the Co�unity Development
Co�issfon, the Environmental Quality Conmission, and the new Energy Co�isaion
by the Planning Commission for these com�issious' information.
Zfr, Oquist stated the Coamnission should be kept informed wheneuer new
in#armation was seceived regard3ng the NSP power plant.
COMMU[dITY°DEVELOPMENT C�MMZSSI9N MEF.TING, MAKCH 11, 1980 ' PAGE 2
Mr. Deblon stated he attended the aecond TAsk Force meeting on February 21 and
would"give a quick suu¢nary of that meeting.
Mr. Deblon stated that the Task Force has already eliminated five of the ten
alternatives. The alternatives remaining under Che Minor Role are: "Parallel
N-S runways north of the exigting runway," and "PaFa31e1 E-W runways, crosswind
runway north of existing run�+ay." The'altematives r�aining under the Inter-
mediate Role are: "Fara11e1 N-S. runways norh of existing runway": and "Paralle]
NW-SE runways". This last alternative, Parallel NW-SE ranways, could be a problem
in inclement weather conditions because of the Shoreview Towers; therefore, was
not a feasible alternative.
Mr. Deblon stated that the alternative under the Minor Rnle, "Existing configaration",
was eliminated because TRA claimed they were not hired to look at that. TRA claimed
theq were hired to perform Qh�.s planning design i�or eitner a minor role or an
tntermediate role. Mr. Deb2pa staCed the people were a little upset, because
they wanted to know about the �isting configuration, such as noise levels, existing
flights, etc., so they could eompare it to the other alternatives. Mr. Deblon
stated TRA would get them that information:
Mr. Deblon.stated the TRA was having some problems proceeding with_their ,. :_
preaentations. They norm�lly come into a situation like this where the task force
has aZready been established. TRA stated they had three roles: (1) organizer,
(2) administrator, and (3) technical e�cpertise. TRA stated they would prefer to
be the technical eaperts and pointed out to the people that they would like the
Task Force taking on the ad�inistration and working with TRA for the organization.
Mr. Deblon stated a chairpe�son was elected at thi¢ meeting. He felt this was a
major and vital accomplishment. They went on to- xalk about airport,terminolqgy- minor,
intermediate, and major. They explained that siXports are classizied by function.
They e�cplained that Anoka Caunty Airport is classified se a minor airport, but the
Anoka County Airport is actually functioning rigj�t now as an intermedtate airport,
because of the small jet traffic.
Mr. Deblrm atated the diffesence Detween the classifications is not the length
of'runways, but the weight of airplanes and the thicknesa of.the runways.
For instance, for a minor airport, the maximum pouadage for a plane is
I2,5Q0 lbs. For an intermediate airport (base transport}, the maximum
poundage is 60,U00 lbs. For a major airport (air carrier - DC-9, for example),
the maximum poundage is 120,000 Ibs. He stated the current weight li.mit on
the Anoka County Airport ruuways ;ight now is 2p,000-23,000 lbs., because of
overlay and seal coating. . '
Mr. Deb2on stated that CouACilman Dennis Schneider attended a meeting that
the Senate Select Co�itte� of the Government Qperations Committee he2d in
Moundsview on Feb. 16. This'airport was brought to the Co�ittee's attention.
The Committee was concernea $bout the foxmat regarding MAC hiring TRA, and
they were concerned that no MAC staff people were at that meeting. S�
interesting tesCimoay came out of-that meeting. Mr.,Schneider attended the
Feb. 19 Enviro�ental Quality Covmission meeting and gave a report on that meeting.
, G�4�fUNITY DEVELOPMENT CUMEi[SSION MEF.TING MARCk1 11 1980 - PAGE 3
'?ir. Debion atated that a ptocests h�a been sei� up b�+ the State Legislature
vhich-,sequires a systems plan, a master plan, and.an operations plan, before any
afsport-development. He #alt this process was a good planning mechanism ti�at
the State �gislature had passed in response to uncont�olled develo�ent. �1ny
bfalation.of the adopted plan would Chen require a new E.I.S., Systems,Plan,
and Operation Plan,
Mr, IIeblon stated'that Hugh Pgr='S'. NOiand �adeesc�erintere tingCcamparisonsgnt
for noise, explained decibels, dba's,
Mr. Aeblon stated the rtext TBSk Force meeting is March 13 at 7:30 p.m, at
St. Timothy's Catholic Church in Blaine.
3. DPDATE ON CBNTSR CITY PRO.�ECT:
?!r. Oquiat stated there are six phases to the Center City Project. This projecC
�rill be done without taxpayers' money aad without urban renewal. The plan is
to tear down areas only when a Seveloper is ready to develop an area. Right
now the City is involved only with Phase 1.
?1r. Deblon stated thia is.a tax increme h$�iincrement wiliabe$ sedet epayfoffen,
and as the taxable evaluatian goes up,
bands.
?�'. Deblon sCated the project package with coneeptual plans was aent around to �
interested developers, and two developers submitted propowhoswasTinterested in
developers were International Multi-Hpusing, Inc. (IMI)> ,
all-,aix phases, and Joint Venture Developers (JVD), who was primarily interested �
in Phase l��• �e Aousing & Redevelopment Authority (HRE� reviewed these proposals ;
Yand� after several meetings, selected J4D as the developer. JVD now has the _ �
sble rights to Phase I. _ __
Ms.:Modig stated she would like the Co�mmission to receive the HRA minutes so
. the Co�i.ssion members could be lmowledgeable about the Center City Project,
especially when they are.asked questions about the project by the citizenry.
MOTION by Ms. Modig, seconded by Mr. Gabel, to request that Staff send copies
of the HRA minutes to the Co�unity Development Gommission, beginning with
the meeting where the developers made their preseatations (Jau. 24, 1980),
aad all future minutes. Upon a voice vote, all vating aye, Cbairperson Oquist
- declared the motion carried unanimously.
Nir. Deblon stated that the-0ity now has 90 days to sit dowa with JVD to work
an the financing for Phase 1. They are looking at 72,000 sq. ft. of office
apaee. If the City can get a co�ltment or disposition document and set up a
t�au�Cable for bonds for the development, then the City will start the acquisi-
tion apd relocation. The poteritial time frame is.3uly 1. Zf the City cannot
put the package together with JVD, then the City might look again at IMI�e
propasel or atart all over again by readvertising Ehe project. j
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C�MMUNiTY DEVELOPMEN'f COMMT$STdN MEETING. MARCH 11, 1480 - PAGE 4
Mr. Oquist staCed that if the Commission can get capies of the ABA minutes,
that will �eep the Co�ission informad as to the progress of the Center
City Project. The Coom�unity Development Co�ission should kaow what is going
on in the coamunity.
4. PROGRESS ON FRIDLEY'S �QMFIUN�TY PARK {jtECREATION COMPLER PROPOSAI,):
Mr. Deblon showed the C wmiission members the model of the Fridley Co¢mumity
Park, prepared by Jtm Rob3:nson and himself. It includes six softball fields
and four touch-football fields.
Mr. Deb2on stated that Fridley received a$200,000 LAWCON grant to acquire the
Sears property of 21 acres`, The County bought the adjacent 18 acres for a
trail system, so it is a coqperative effort between the County and the City.
The City has also been awarded a$166,000 LAWCON grant for development of that
groperty. Mr. Boudreau has been going around giving presentatians to the
co�mmuaity civic organ�zations. The FYSA has donated $S,OOO toward the develop-
ment, and the VFW has donated $6U,000 toward the development of a softball
field. That field will be cailed the VFW Field.
Mr. Deblon Yndicated the potential recreation center building. This was a
separate item from the field a;eas and is something that will have to be looked
into.as far as financing and'wA:ether or not the Tesfdents of Fridley really
want it.
ADJOIIRNMENT:
MOTTON by Ms,
a voice vote,
uaanimously.
Gustafson, aeconded by Ms. Modig, Co adjoum the meeCiag. Upon
a11 voting aye, Ch�ix`person Oquist declared the motfon carried
Res ectfully submitted,
Ly e Saba
Recording Secretary
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 19, 198a
CALL TO ORDER•
Chairman Harris called the March 19, 1980, Planning Commission meeting to
order at 7;37 p.m.
ROLL CALL•
Members Present: Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenfels, Ms. Gabel (for Ms: Schna6el),
Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes, Mr. Langenfeld
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Kathy M. Picotte, 1339 Poppyseed Court, New Brighton
Carol Erickson, 9950 Bluebird St., Apt. 104, Coon Rapids
Jeff Janacek, 1711 - 99th Ave. N.W., Coon Rapids
Jean Rambow, 408 -lst St. N.E „ Osseo
Matthew Rowles, 6640 Anoka St. N.E., Fridley
Arthur & Bonnie DeMeyere, 6620 Anoka St. N.E., Fridley
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 27, 1980, PLANPTlNG COi�II�flSSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to approve the Feb. 27, 1980,
Planning Commission minutes as written. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Chairman Harris declared the motion carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MARCH 5, 1980, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to approve the March 5, 1980,
Planning Commission minutes.
Ms. Hughes made the following amendments: Page 2, second to last paragraph,
"and will be passed on to a non-profit organization" should be changed to "and
wi11 he put back into the organization".
Page 6, the following statement should be inserted after paragraph 6: "Ms. Hughes
stated her main reason for eliminating hard surface driveways is that the number
of driveways that would not be paved in this eity would be very small and would
have essentially no impact on the storm sewer system."
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MINUTES APPROVED
AS AMENDED.
PLAb7NING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 19, 1980 PAGE 2
1. PUBLIC AEARING: REQUEST FOR A
to allow a dwelling located on Lots
Oak Grove Addition to Fridley Park,
battered women and children.
AL USE PERMIT, S,P, i6$0-02, BY
WOMEN: Per Section 205.051, 3, F,
18, 19, 20 and 21, Block 3,
to be used as a facility for
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to open the public hearing on
SP �k80-02 by the Anoka County Task Force for Battered Women. Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, Chaixman Harris declared the public hearing open at
7:40 p.m.
Mr. Boardman stated that this request comes before the Planning Co�ission under
a special use permit. Under State Law, all cities must allow group homes
within residential areas if they meet certain requirements. One of these
requirements is that there be no more than six unrelated adults or persons
within that unit over and above the staff. As he understood it, the program
will allow for living space for six women and their children. Beaause of this
situation, that would not fall within the state requirements of having six
unrelated persons and requires a special use pexmit. He stated the City of
Fridley has no problems with this request.
Ms. Carol Erickson, 9950 Bluebird St., Coon Rapids, stated she was the Chair-
person of the Task Force for Battered Women. She stated the Anoka County Task
Force for Battered Women is a non-profit organization and has been for the
past three years. The general membership votes annually on a Board of Directors.
The Board consists of lay people from the community. The Board of Directors
appoints people to their Advisory Board. The Advisory Board represents people
from various service systems in the coamiunity. They have a commissioner, a
policeman, a chaplain, a counselor, and a doctor to give advice to the Board
as far as how services are to be provided. Since the beginning three years
ago, they have had two main goals:
1. To make the public and people in helping professions aware that
women in our c�unity and Anoka County are living in fear and
physically abused on a daily basis. The Task Force wanted people
to begin to be sensitive to this issue and to begin to seek alter-
natives for the battered woman.
2. To provide a shelter which is one of the best immediate alternatives
for the battered woman. Through the data they have collected,
they have found there are more than 15 women a month in Anoka
County who need a place to stay. A shelter provides them with
temporary relief from physical abuse, i� provides them freedom
from the fear of being abused, so they have time to think about
what they want to do for themselves and their chiLdren. The
shelter has been the ultimate goa1:
Ms. Erickson stated that last spring, the Minnesota State Legislature allocated
money for two additional shelters in Region 11. They applied for one of those
grants and received it. The money is to be used for a facility plus hiring
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 19, 1980 PAGE 3
staff. The staff has now been hired. The staff will be at the shelter 24 hrs.
a day, 7 days a week. The staff consists of people who have had experience
in working in other shelters, who have worked in the human service area, and
are women who have been abused.
Ms. Erickson stated they have worked long and hard to find a facility that
would meet their needs. The facility they found in Fridley meets those needs,
and they are here to ask for the special use permit in order to use that facility.
Ms. Erickson stated before answering any questions, she would like to show a
seven-minute slide presentation. It is the story of a woman who was in a shelter
and tells about her experience. Ms. Erickson stated it would give the Planning
Commission members a feel of what actually happens in a shelter.
Ms. Erickson stated that when they submitted the grant, they received more than
20 letters of suppart from various people in Anoka County--the different police
departments, shertff's department, county cw�missioners, councils, hospitals,
and doctors--all supporting what they were doing and the fact that a shelter
was needed in Anoka County.
Ms. Gabel stated the building proposed for the shelter was a large facility.
How many children did they think they could house in addition to the six women?
Ms. Erickson introduced Ms. Jean Rambow, one of their staff inembers.
Ms. Rambow, 408 - lst St. N.E., Osseo, stated that they have some basic
statistics as to the women in their organization they have worked with over
the last 20 months. Out of the 132 women they worked with (all from Anoka
County), 66% have 1-2 children, 28'/, have 1 child, 38% have 2 children,
2CP/ have`3 children, 3% have 4 children, 4% have 5 children, and 2% have 6 children.
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This would give the Planning Commission members an idea of how many children
the women had and how many each woman would have at the shelter.
Ms. Gabel asked how many full-time staff people would be at the shelter 24 hrs.
a dayY
Ms. Rambow stated they have 11 staff people, 9 are full-time and 3 are part-
time. Depending upon the time of day, they will try to have at least two
advocates on duty during the day, 8:00 a,m. - 4:00 p.m. The reason for two
advocates during the day is that often one of the advocates has to provide
transportation for the women. There would often be the occasion when there
would be three staff people �uring the day, if the child advocate is there at
the same time. They have one full-time physician working entirely with the
children, and another half-time physician who will be providing structured
programs for the children.
Ms. Erickson stated this would also be supplemented with volunteer help.
Ms. Gabel asked if there was a maximum amount of time a woman could spend in
shelter.
PLANNING CQ�4IISSION MEETING MARCH 19, Z980 PAGE 4
Ms. Rambow stated they did not set any maximum time. They wiil provide the
services �s long as a woman needs it. From contacting other shelters, they
found out that in the State of Minnesota, the average length of stay is ten
days.
Ms. Rambow stated she has heen hired as one of the staff coordinators. She
also has experienced violence in her home situation. She explained that an
advocate in a shelter generally provides the woman with some options; it
gives the woman an opportunity to be away from the violent atmosphere, and to
make s�e decisions. Many women for various reasons go back to their home.
Other women do not want to go back and that is when the advocate will help them
find housing. If the woman is going to take 1ega1 steps, the advocate will
help her find a lawyer and will provide transportation, whatever is necessary.
Ms. Gabel stated that because of the present activity at the facility, there
is playground equipment. Would that playground equipment remain?
Ms. Rambow stated that at this time, they were not sure if that playground
equipment would remain or not.
Ms. Gabel stated that if this was an 18-month grant, was this then an 18-month
lease on the facility? She assumed they would try to keep this an on-going
facility.
Ms. Rambow stated the reason it was stated that way was because their basic
funding comes from the Department of Corrections. She stated they saw no
probiem in this area, because no shelter that has been set up has ever not
received funding.
Ms. Gabel stated that she understood that the she2ter is usually kept secret
from the husbands. She was curious as to how this was done and how they
would handle any problems.
Ms. Rambow stated their building is secured. In talking with other shelters,
that is not a problem. Dbviously, the location is kept as confidential as
possible. Just in the very nature of domestic violence, not many people would
want to come into a situation where they were not in control. That violence
is usualLy in the home where no one knows what is happening. She stated that
if the Conmiission was interested in knowing how many calls the police have
received to some of the other shelters, Jeff Jattacek was a member of their
Board of Directors and he could share some of this information with the
Commission.
Mr. Janacek, 1711 - 99th Ave. N.W., Coon Rapids, stated he has been employed
by the Columbia Heights Police Department for over 5� years. He has been
involved with this issue for about two years as a member of the Anoka County
Task Force. He is now on the Board of Directors and is the liaison person
between the Task Force and the staff and the local police departments. He is
trying to train with the local police departments so they are more familiar
PLANNING COMhffSSION MEETING MARCH 19, 1980 PAGE 5
with the problem and how to handle the problem and also so there is a good
relationship between the police departments and the shelter itself. Ae stated
they are in desperate need of this kind of facility. It is really a problem
in Anoka County and it is very frustrating for the police to deal with this
issue, particularly when there is no place to take the women and children when
there is a problem. The existing shelters are few and too far away.
Ms. Hughes asked how many calls was typical for a shelter to make to a police
department for help.
Mr. Janacek stated that he tried to check a shelter that appeared to be in
the same type of an area as the one in Fridley, and that was the Robert Lewis
House in Burnsville. This shelter has been operated since August 1979 and,
since then, they have called the police twice and an arrest was not made with
either call. In fact, one call was a mistake. In Burnsville, the shelter's
address is listed on the brochure. One of the advantages to keeping the
shelter in Fridley a partial secret is that the man who is doing this kind of
violence is not likely to have access to the information. He stated they are
not going to have the shelter's address printed anywhere, and dispatchers will
not give the address over the radio. He predicted that Fridley would get
fewer calls than Burnaville.
Ms. Gabel asked if this shelter would service only Anoka County women?
Ms. Erickson stated they would give priority to Anoka County women, but just
as other shelters have served women from Anoka County, they would also serve
women from other areas. Ms. Erickson stated that besides the shelter in
Burnsville, there is one in Ramsey County and two in Aennepin County.
Ma. Gabel stated that from the slid�resentation,_she__under���1 *hat most
of the women do not have transportation. If a woman did have a car, would she
be allowed to keep it out of sight in the large garage located on the property?
Ms. Rambow stated that it would not be possible. One of the exciting things
about this facility was that the garage is carpeted and insulated and will be
used as an area for the children to play. This is unheard of for this kind
of facility. She stated she had talked to the director of the Day Activity
Center (DAC) and was informed that when the DAC is in session, they have
approximately 10-11 cars there at the same time. The shelter will never have
that many cars parked there at any given time. Very few women she has worked
with in Anoka County have had transportation so that will not be a problem.
Ms. Erickson stated if a woman did have a car, she would want to hide it
somewhere else.
Ms. Gabel asked who took care of the maintenance of the building.
Ms. Erickson stated that is being negotiated with the County right now.
PLANNiNG COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 19, 1980 PAGE 6
Ms. Gabe1 asked where the funding would come from after the 18 months.
Ms. Erickson stated the Board members are working on a proposal to be submitted
to foundations throughout the state and beyond asking for money, as they know
they will need that to continue to support the program. Other shelters use
the State funding as a base and then they are all supplemented by foundations.
Mr. Treuenfels asked what kind of services are provided at the shelter.
Ms. Rambow stated they help in getting legal assistance for a woman, help her
get assistance from the Welfare Department if she needs it, they help her
establish a home on her own if that is what she decides. The primary thing
is providing a place for the woman and her children to live--providing food,
clothing, everything they need--a safe environment for them to:live to take
time to think about what has happened and what she wants to do.
Mr. Treuenfels stated that if a woman decides to return to her home, do they
do any type of counseling?
Ms. Rambow stated they do not provide counseling within the shelter. It is
not the advocate's role to provide counseling. The provide a network of
counseling services available in the community and the county. An advocate
is, more or less, there to offer support and act as a resource person. An
advocate does not in any way influence the woman, but supports her in any
decision she makes.
Mr. Treuenfels asked about the group sessions held at the shelter.
Ms. Rambow stated when they refer to group sessio¢is, they are talking about
support groups, where the women get together, talk about their experiences
and offer support to each other. Ms. Rambow stated they felt the support
groups are very important and it is something they will try to stress. They
also hope that when the women leave the shelter, they will want to continue
to help by doing volunteer help and helping other women.
Ms. Gabel asked if they find that the children of the abused women are
usual�y abused also?
Ms. Kathy Picotte, 1339 Poppyseed Court, New Brighton, stated she works for
Hennepin County in Domestic Abuse, and she sees about 20 wamen a week who
come to the County to get an order for protection. All of the children experience
abuse, if not physical abuse, then emotional abuse. They are almost all
emotionally abused because they see someone they love being beaten up.
Mr. Harris asked what was the maximum number of people the shelter would have
at one time?
Ms. Rambow stated she would estimate 20-22 people, including staff.
Mr. Harris asked what special things would be done to the facility as far as
security.
PLAPINING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 19, 1980 PAGE 7
Mr. Janacek stated that two panic buttons would be installed inside the
facility. These buttons would be placed high enough so children could not
reach them. When a button is hit, it turns on a series of exterior floodlights
and activates a tape dialing system which is hooked up to central communications
in Anoka County, stating there is an unknown emergency at the shelter in Fridley.
The Fridley police would respond to that call. He stated he did not think it
would ever be necessary because of the physical make-up of the building. He
stated they have discussed mesh screens on the windows but do not feel that is
going to be a problem. If it ever becomes a problem, there are many alternatives,
one would be replacing the glass on the first floor with Lexan, which is difficult
to break, No security fencing is planned at this time.
Mr. Harris asked if they foresaw any impact on the surrounding residents from
this particular type of operation?
Mr. Janacek stated that the only impact would be the fact that the shelter will
be open 24 hours a day and the building will be lighted 24 hours a day. The
security lights will be used only in the event of an emergency.
Mr. Langenfeld asked if there was going to be any extensive interior remodeling?
Ms. Rambow stated that extensive remodeling was not necessary. One wall was
going to be added on the lower story. Other than that, the County will be
adding bathing facilities because there are no overnight facilities at this
time.
Mr. Langenfeld asked if there was any plans for expansion of the facility? Did
they £oresee a need for expansion?
Ms. Erickson stated there probably would be the need, but funding has been
very hard to get. She was sure that as time went on,the counties north of
Anoka County will have shelters. At this time, their plans are only to keep
this shelter open and operating.
Mr. Harris asked if there was enough physical facilities within the structure
to handle 20-22 people?
Ms. Erickson stated that, yes, there was.
Ms. Hughes asked how they chose the number of six persons. Was that number
chosen because that is what the facility wi11 hold or was that number based
on need? Would it be possible to expand that number to seven, eight, etc.?
Ms. Erickson stated it was based on both--the need always being greater than
what the facilities provide for. The greatest problem was finding a shelter
that was big enough.
Ms. Ramhow stated the number "six" was arrived at by considering the area
and the number of children they could realistically expect. She stated they
will be subject to healtH inspection and will be told exactly how many they
PLANDTING CGFAffSSION MEETING, MARCH 19, 1980 PAGE 8
can house in a given amount of square footage, so they will be restricted by
that. So, they did not intend to set the number at six and then increase that
number later on.
Mr. Harris stated he was concerned about the general health, safety, and
welfare of putting 22 people in a facility. Was thexe enough room for the
bathing facilities that would be installed and how many bathrooms are there
now?
Ms. Ramhow stated there are four bathrooms--two on each floor, and there is
room for the bathing facilities to 6e installed.
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to close the public hearing
for SP �680-02 by £he Anoka County Task Force for Battered Women. Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris declared the public hearing closed at
8:45 p.m.
Ms. Hughes stated this certainly was a facility that was needed and, as long
as the facility was built for a kind of public use, this was a reasonable
continuing use of that facility. She was pleased with the reaction from the
County and the County Commissioners.
Ms. Gabel stated that, as a community, they had the responsibility to provide
this kind of service.
Mr. Boardman stated that the City has also been working with Metropolitan Council
through the existing Section 8 program to also provide housing assistance to
the wamen being housed at the shelter.
Mr. Harris asked how Jim Hill, Public Safety Director, felt about this facility,
Mr. Boardman stated he felt the Police Department was in favor of the facility.
Ms. Erickson stated they have a letter from Jim Hill and a letter from some
of the policemen showing their support of the facility.
Ms. Gabel asked where people in the community could call to donate clothing
and other items to the shelter.
Ms. Rambow stated that right now people could call the Anoka County Courthouse
during the day at ��421-4760, ext. 1681.
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Mr. Treuenfels stated he could not support this request because of its
discrimination against the male population. It seemed to be in dire, flagrant
opposition to the ordinance which created the Human Resources Commission.
He would be in favor of it if it was a shelter for battered persons.
Ms. Hughes stated she did not feel the ordinance was that direct in its
prohibitions and that you can indeed provide facilities for groups that have
to be segregated for very good reasons. She agreed with Mr. Treuenfels that
it ought to be battered people, but there are some priorities that have to
be set and some reasons why battered women have to be chosen first.
Ms. Gabel stated she did not see it as discriminatian, but rather as providing
a need.
Mr. Harris stated that he and Mr. Treuenfels have been studying the social
service delivery system in Anoka County. They had an interesting discussion
with Don Wegscheider of the North Suburban Pediatric Ckinic in Coon Rapids
about this very problem. Mr. Harris stated it was his personal feeling that
maybe this is phase one, a remedy but:not a cure. Perhaps, one should think
along the lines of correcting the home situation also and the°reasons these
things are happening. Battered women are not the only people being battered
in the county, there are battered women and some battered men. He felt that
at some point in time, perhaps programs should be expanded to encompass the
home situations to provide a cure for the situation.
Ms. Erickson stated the shelter is only a temporary solution and is just one
step in beginning to do something. Before they can look at a family system to
see what is wrong, they first have to stop the abuse, and one way of doing that
is to have the woman in a safe place. She stated she is a social worker for
Anoka County and does family and marriage counseling. She will not do marriage
counseling if abuse is involved, because she cannot work on the relationship
until the abuse has stopped. The shelter is just the beginning and there is
a lot of work to be done.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that when you get involved with psycho-social situations,
he thought the ultimate goal is to first meet the needs of the initial problem
and then go after the prevention. He felt Fridley should be pxoud to provide
a service for this kind of tragedy.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, HARRIS, GABEL, LANGENFELD, OQUIST, AND HUGHES VOTING AYE,
TREUENFELS VOTING NAY, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Harris thanked Ms. Erickson for the presentation and stated this request
would go to City Council on April 7.
2. VACATION REQUEST, SAV �80-01, BY G. W, PASCHKE: Vacate the South 160'
of that part of a drainage & utility easement 10 feet on either side of
the common lot line of Lots 5 and 12, Block 2, Paco Industrial Park, so
that the buildings located at 7280 Co�erce Circle East and 7281 Commerce
Circle West can be joined together with a 60' x 100' Addition.
PLANNiNG COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 19, 1980 PAGE 10
Mr. Boardman stated that the City has received reports from all the utility
companies and there are no utilities within that easement. That easement
was set up strictly for drainage. Staff did not see any problems with this
vacation request.
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to receive communications from
Northern Cablevision, Inc., and Northern States Power stating they have no
objections to the vacation. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris
declared the motion carried unanimously.
Vacation
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of Lots
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to recommend to Citv Council the
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ial Park. s
East and 7281 Cammerce
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
3. RECEIVE THE MARCH 6, 1980, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to receive the Mar. 6, 1980,
Human Resources Co�ission minutes.
Ms. Hughes stated that on page 2, paragraph 4, second line, "anyone" should be
changed to "any building".
Mr. Boardman stated that on page 4, the Human Resources Co�ission made a
motion reco�ending approval of the "Guidelines for the Prioritization of
Fundiilg Requests" to Planning Commission and City Council. He stated those
guidelines had not been included in the agenda and would be included in the
next Planning Cammission agenda.
Mr. Harris stated that after Ms. Cayan put together a camposite summary of all
the meetings with the various social service agencies in Anoka Cwnty, he
would like the Planning Commission to discuss what role the City should play
in this situation.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANiMOUSLY.
4. RECEIVE THE MARCH 11, 1980, APPEALS COYM�IISSION MINUTES:
MOTI�I by Ms. Gabel, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to receive the Mar. 11, 1980,
Appeals Commission minutes.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COrASISSION MEETING MARCH 19, 1980 PAGE 11
5. RECEIVE THE MARCH 11, 1980, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONA•IISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to receive the Mar. 11, 1980,
Community Development Commission minutes.
Ms. Hughes stated that on page 1, paragraph 3, under Item 1, "Riverside Plant"
should be changed to "Minneapolis Waterworks".
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL V�TING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECI,ARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNAPTIMOUSLY.
6. CONTINUED; PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZONING:
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to continue discussion
on Proposed Changes to Chapter 205. Zoning. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, Chairman Harris declared the motion carried unanimously.
7. OTHER BUSINESS:
Mr. Harris stated he had a notice from the Government Training Service about
a training seminar in Bloomington.
Mr. Boardman stated that three staff people will be attending that meeting.
Mr. Harris stated he had a communication from Spring Lake Park before Planning
and Zoning which was an application for a zoning change from C1 to I1 for
mini-storage garages at 8325 University Ave.
Mr. Boardman stated this item had been tabled. At the Feb. 27 meeting, the
Fridley Planning Co�ission had expressed concern about drainage and he would
check further into this.
Mr. Harris stated he also had a communication from Spring Lake Paxk for a
request for a special use permit to operate a business dealing wiCh the
installation of electronic controls at 8437 University. He did not understand
why a special use permit was needed.
Mr. Boardman stated he wwld check into this situation also.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to receive the two coumiuni-
cations from Spring Lake Park. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris
declared the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Langenfeld stated there will be an Earth Shelter 9�2 seminar at the
Leamington Hotel on April 9-11 sponsored by the Underground Space Center
of the University of Minnesota if any of the Planning Commission members
were interested in attendiag.
FLANNiNG COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 19 1980 PAGE 12_
ADJOURNMENT :
MOTION by Mt. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chaixman Harris
Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 11:15 p.m.
Res ectfully s mitted,
L e Saba
Recording Secretary
adjourn Che meeting.
declared the March 19, 1980,