PL 04/09/1980 - 6677City of Fridley
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, APRIL 9, 1980
CALi TO ORDER:
ROLL CRLL:
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: MARCH 19, 1980
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2. RECEIVE MEMO FROM THE OFFICE OF THE CITY
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3. RECEIVE GUIDECINES FOR THE PRIORITIZATION OF.fUNDING_REQUESTb - 22 - 24
FINAL DRAFT
4. CONTINU[D: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZONING
5. R[CEIVE PARKS & RECREATiQN COMMISSION MINUTES: MARCH 12,
6. RECIEVE HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: MARCF
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7. RECEI�'t ENVIRONMENTAL QUACITY COMMISSION MIPJUTES: MARCH 1
8. RECEIVE APPEALS CO!4MISSION MINUTES: MARCH 25, 1980
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9. RECEIVE ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES: MARCH 27, 1980
10. OTHER BUSINESS:
ADJOURNMENT:
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PI,ANNING COMMISSIOP� MEETING, MARCH 19, 19$0
CALL TO ORllER;
Chairman Harris called the March 19, 1980, Planning Commission meeting to
order at 7:37 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenfels, Ms. Gabel (for Ms: SchnaUel),
Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes, Mr, Langenfeld
Members Absent: None
Others Present; Jerrold Boardman, Ci.ty Planner
. Kathy M. Picotte, 1339 Poppyseed Court, N°w Brighton
Caro1 Erickson, 9450 Bluebird St., Apt. 104, Coon P.apids
Jeff Janacek, 1711 - 99th Ave. N.W., Coon Rapids
Jean Rac�bor, 408 -lst SL-. N.E., Osseo
Matthcw Rowles, 6640 Anolca St. N.E., Fridley
Arthur &&onnie D��Ieyere, 652� Anoka St. N.�., Fridle.y
AYPROVAL, OP PEBRUARy 27, 1980. PLAN�:IA'G CO*II?iSSION MIN[ITGS
NICTION Uy Mr.. Treuenfels, secon:led Uy P4r, Langenf.eld, to approve the Feb, 27, 1950,
Plannin& Ccmmission minutes as writtien. Upon a voice vote; all voting ayc,
Chairman Harris declared the o:otion carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF I�iAFCH 5, 1980, PLAt�T�ING COi4MISSIUN 1�II;dUTES:
MOTION b; P1r. Langenfeld, seconded by T1r, Oquist, to approve the P1;rch 5, 1980,
Planning Commission minutes.
Ms, Hughes made the follocaing amendments; iage 2, second to last paragraph,
"and wi11 be passed on to a non-profit organization" shou].d be cl�ianged to "and
wi11 be put back into the organizaCion",
Page 6, the following statement should be inserted after paragraph 6: "Pis. Hu;hes
stated her nain reason for�elimi�ating hard surface drivecoays is that the number
nf driveways that �aould not be paved in this ci_ty would be very small aad �aould
have essentially no impact on the storm se�.�er system."
UYON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYL', CHAIRPfAN fiARRIS DECLAP.ED TIti MIN[JT�S APPROVED
AS AMI:NDE:D,
rLADTNING COi•7MISSIOIQ iSfiI:7'ING, MARCII 19, 1980 PAGL 2
1. PUISL'iC III:AI.ING: REQUES'C P'OR A SPPCIAI. USIs PEitMIT, S_P. �k80-02, BY
�NOKA COUNPY tiASK P'ORCE I'OR BATTEIZliD ir'Ob4?N: Per SecCiou 205.051, 3, F,
to a11ow a d�velling located on Lots 1£3, 19, 20 ancl 21, $lock 3,
Oak Grove Addition Lo Fridl.ey Park, to be used as a facility for
battered women and childxen.
MOTION by A1r. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to open the puUlic hearing on
SY �k80-02 Uy the Anoka County Task Force for Battered Womr-_n. Upon a voice
vote, aI1 voting aye, Chairman Hrirris declared the pubZic hearing open at
7:4.0 p.m.
T1r. T3o:irdman stated that this request cot�es before the Planning Commission under
a special use pennit. Under State Law, a11. cities must alloca group homes
wiChin residential areas if they meet certain requiremer.ts. One of these
req�irements is thaC there be no more than six unrelated adults or persons
within t:lz�it unit over and above the stafi. As he understood it, the program
will alloo� for living space Eor six women and their children. Beeavse of this
situati.or., that would not fall within the state requiremen.ts of havin� si�;
unrelated persons aizd requires a special use permit. He stated the Cit}� of
Fridley has no proble�s �aith this request.
P1s. Carol Erickson, 9i50 Bluebird St., Ceon Rapids, sxated she was the Chair-
person oi the Task Force for Batterecl Wom�n. She stated the Anoka Coiinty Task
Force for Batteren Wce��n is a nen-pi'orit organizatian a��i� lias beea for the
past three S�ears. The gcneral mei;�bership votes annually on a Board of' Directoss.
The Board consi.sts of 1ay people from the community. T'.ie Board of t)irccY_ors
appoints peop;.c: to their Anvisory Board. The A.dvisozy Board represents people
from various service sysSens in Che commurii.ty, They Jiave a commissioner, a
policeman, a chaplain, a counselor, and a doctor to givc advice to the Board
as far as ho�o services are to be provided. Since the be�inning thrce years
ago, the}� have had Cwo main goalsc
1. To make tite puUlic and people in he7.pit,g proiessions aware that
�aomen in our. commiiriity and �Anoka CounCy are ?iviag in fear and
physicaily abased on a daily basis. 'Lhe Taslc Force wanted pcople
to beg:in to Ue sensitive to this issue and to begin to seek alter-
natives for C]Ze batteLed o�oman,
2. To provide a shelT.er which is one of the best immediate alternatives
for the battere6 woman. Through the data they have coilect'ed,
they have fo!tnd Chcre are raore than 15 women a month in Anoka
County who need a place to sLay. A shelter provicles them with
tremporary relief frem physical abuse, it provides them freedom
from the fear of bcing abuse.d, so they have time to lhink about
wliaL- they want to do for themsel.ves and their children. The
shelter has Ueen tlie ultimate goal.
Dis. Ericicson stzted that last spring, the rlinnesota Shate LegislaL-ure allocated
money for tcao addiL-ioixal shelters in Region 11. They applicd for one of those
grants and received i.t. Tl�e moitcy is to be usecl for a facility plus hiring
PLl�it�lING CONL^4LSSZOIQ PIEETING P�._,___ �P.CH 19, 1980 PAGE 3
staff. The staff has now Ucen hire3. Thc staf.f will be at the shelter 24 hrs.
a day, 7 days a week, The staff consists of people who have had experience
in working in other shelters, �aho huve worked in the liuman service area, and
are women �aho have been abused.
P1s. Ericicson sl-ated Lhey have worked long and hard to find a facility that
would meet their needs. The f.acility they found in Pridley meets those needs,
and they are here to ask for the special use permit in order to use that facili.ty.
Ms. Erickson stated before answering any questions, she would like to show a
seven-minute slide presentation. it is the story of a woman who caas in a shelter
and tells aUout her experi.ence. Ms. Erickson staL-ed it �aould give the Plaruiing
Commission members a ieel of whaC actually h:ippens in a shelter.
Ms. �rickson stated Chat �,hen they submitte3 the grant, they received more than
20 lettcrs of suppart from varicus People in Ano?ca County--the differenC poli.ce
departmcnes, sheriff's depaxtment, county ca:mnissioners, councils, hospii.als,
ancI doctors--a11 supportinb �aha'r. they were doing and the fact Chat a shelter
was needed in Anoka County.
Ms. Gabel stated the building pronosed for the shelter was a large facility.
tIow many chi_ldren did the}� Lhink th2y could I:ouse in ad3ition lo tLe six women?
Ms. Eric:son i_ntroduced Pis. Jean Ramoow, o,ae of their s*_aif inemUers.
Ms, RamUow, 408 - lst St. N.�., Osseo, stai:ed that they have some Uasic
statistics as to the o7omeii in their organiza�i_on they have ororked wil-h over
the last 20 months. Out oi the 132 wan°n tliey worked with (a?1 from Anoka
County) , 66% have 1-2 children, 2�% liave 1 cl�i7.d, 38% have 2 chiidren,
20'/ have 3 children, 3% have 4 children, 4% have 5:.hildren, ai.d 2`/, iiave 6 children.
This would give the Planning Con;mi.ssion memUers an�idea of how many ctiildren
the wemen had and how many each moman would have at tiie shelter.
Ms. Gabel asked how many fu21-time >taff people would Ue at L-he shelter 24 hrs.
a day?
his. RamUow stated they have 11 staif people, 9 are full-tim� and 3 are part.:-
time, Depending upon the tir,ie oi day, they will try to have at least two
adwcatea on duty during the day, 8:00 a,m. - 4:00 p.m. The reason for. t�ao
advocaL-es during the day is that often one of the advocates 171s to provide
transportation for the women. ihere �aould otten be L-he occasion when there
would be three staff people cPuring the day, ii the child advocate is there at
the same time. They have on� full-time physician woricin� entirely with the
chiidren, and another half-titt�e physician who wi11 be providing structured
programs for the children.
Ms. Ericicson stated this would also be supplemented with volunteer help.
Ms. Gabe1 asked if there was a maximum amount of time a woman could spend in
shelter.
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with the pr.oblem and how to handle the proUlem and also so there is a good
relationship between the police deyartments and the shelter itself. He stated
they are in desperate need of this lci.nd of inciliry. It is really a problem
in Anok1 County and it is ��ery frL�sL-rating for tl�e poli.ce to deal with this
issve, particu].arly when there is no place to take the women and children when
tliere is a proUlem. The existing shelters �re few and too far away.
Ms. Hughes asked how many ca11s was typical Lor a shelter to make to a police
department for help.
Mr. Janacelc stated that he tried to check a si�elter L-hat appeared to be in
the same type of an area as the one in Frid?.ey, and that �aas the I2obc�rt Lewis
Iiouse in Burnsville. This shelter has Ueen orerated since Augtist 1979 and,
since then, they have called the poli.ce twice and an arrest caas not made with
eiL'her call. In facC, one call o�as a mist:alce. In P,un.sville, the shelter's
address is listed oa thc Urochure. Qne of the advantages to keeping the
shelter in Fri_dley a partiai secre*_ is that the man who is doing this kind of
violence is not likely to have access to tlie information. Hc state.d they are
no*_ goi.ng to have the shelte:'s addr.ess p;:inted anywhere, and dispatchers will
not give the address over tne r:�dio. He predicted tliat Fridle}> wculd get
fewer ca11s than Burn>vilJ.e.
P1s. Gaoe1 asiced if ti,is shelter taoul3 service only A:ZCka Ccunty women?
M�. Fricicson sLaLed the}� erould gi.ve prioritg io Anoka County women, Uut just
as othcr shelcers have servzd �ao:,:^;.� from Anoica CoLmty, they �aculd also serve
women iiom oCher axeas. Ms. Eric,tson stated that besides the �heltez iii
Burnsville, Lhere is one in Ramsey County and toro in herulepin Ccunty.
Ms. Gabel. stated t:hat' fro:� the slicie presenL-ation, she undcrstoed ttiati most
of the �,�omen do nol tiave transpor�ation. If a woman did have a car, would eh�
be allowed to keep i.0 out ot si�l�t. in the lar�e garage located on the property?
Pis. Rambow stated that it wouid not Ue possible. One of the esciting thin�s
aUout this Lacility was L-hat the garage is carpeted and insulated and wi_11 bc
used as an area for the children to play. This is unheard oL for this kind
oP facility. She stated she had t�lk.ed Lo the di�ector of the llay F,ctivity
Center (DAC) and caas infon�:ed that �ohen the DAC is in session, they have
approximately 10-11 cars there at Che same time. The shelter wi11 never have
that many cars parked fhere_aC aity given time. Very few �aomen she ha.^, worked
cailh in Anoka County have i�ad transyorLation so that will not be a proUl.em.
p4s. Erickson stated ii a woman did l:ave a car, she would caant Co hide it
so��wl�erc else.
Ms. Gabel asked who took care of tUe r.iainteriance of the building.
Ms. Ericl:son stated that is Ueing negotiated with the County right now.
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Ms. CaUel asked where the funding would come frrnn after the 18 monl-hs.
Ms. Tirickson sl'ated tlic T3o3rci memUers are worki.ng on a proposal to be submitted
to foundati_ons throu�;l�out Cl.ie sl'ate and bcyond aslcing for money, as they knoo�
they cai11 r�eed thae to continue to support the program. Other shelters use
the StaCe funding as a base and ihen they are a21 supplemenL'ed by foundativns.
Mr. Treuenfels asked what kind of services are provided at the shelter.
Ms. Rambow stated they help in getting legal assistance for a woman, help her
get assistance irom the [delfare Department if sl:e needs it, they help her
estaUlish a home on her own if that is what she decides. The primary thing
is�providiri� a place for the woman and. her children to li.ve--providing food,
clothing, everyLhing they aeed — a safe environment for them to.live to talce
time to Lhink about what has happened and what she wants to do.
Mr. Treuenfels stated that if a woman decides to return to her home, do they
do any type of counseling?
Ms. P.au�bow stated r.hey do not- prcvide couiiselin.g within the shelter. It is
not the advocate's role to provide counseling, The provide a net:work of
counseliag services a=aailalile in the commuuity and the countg. An advocate
is, more or. less, there to offer support and act as a resource person. An
advoc�.te does not in any way influence the woman, but supports her in any
decision she makes.
PSr. Treuenfels asked about the group sessions held at t}ie shelter.
Ms. RamUo�a stated c.�her. they refer to group sessions, they are talking about
support gr.oups, where the womcn get together, talk about their experiences
and offer support to each ot:hcr. Ms. RamUow stated they felt the supPort
groups are very important and it is something they wi11 try to stress. They
also hope that �ahen the women leave the shelter, they will want to continue
to help i�y doing volunteer help and helping other women.
Ms. Gabel asked if tiiey find that the children oi the abnsed women are
usual�y abused also?
Ms. Itathy Picotte, 13`_49 Poppyseed Court, New Brighton, stated she works ior
Aennepin County in Do;nestic 6.buse, and she sees about 20 coomen a�aeek who
come te the County to oet an order f-or pro`ectio�:. A11 of the children experience
abuse, if not physical abuse, then emotional aUuse. They are almost a11
emol-ionally abused because they see someone they love being beaten up,
Mr. Harris asked whaC was the maximum number of people the shelter would have
at one time? �
Ms. Rambocv state.d she would estimate 20-22 people, including staff.
Mr. Ilarris aslced wliat special Chi.ngs would be done to the facility as f.ar as
security.
PLANNING COi�N1ISSI0N M[:liTING' M/'.RCH 19, 1950 _ PAG� 7
Mr. Janacek stated that two ps!nic. buttons would Ue installed inside the
facility. These buttons w�uld be placed high enough so children could not
reach them. When a Uutton is l�it, it turns on a series of exterior floodlights
and activates a tape diali.xig system which ie hooked up to central communications
in Anoka County, stal-ing therc is an unknocan emergency at tlie she1L-er in Fridley.
The Fridley police would respond L-o that call. He stated he did not think il-
would ever be necessary because of the physical make-up of the building. He
stated they have discussed mesh screcns on the coindows but do not feel that is
going to be a probletn. If it e»er becomes a proUlem, there are many alternatives,
one would be replacing the glass on the first floor with Lexan, which is difficult
to break. No securil-y fencing is planned at this time.
Mr. Harris aslced if t}iey foresav any impact on Che surrounding residents from
this particular type of operation?
Mr. Janacek stated that the only impact �aould be the fact that the shelter will
be open 24 hours a day and the building �ail.l Ue lighted 24 hours a day. The
security lighCS will Ue used only in the event of an emer;ency.
Mr. Zangenfeld asked if there c:as going to be any extensi.ve interior remodeling?
Ms. Rambow stated that extensive remodeling was not necessary. One u�all was
go?.,ig to be added on *_he locaer >tory. Other than that, the County wi11 be
adding bathino facilities because there are no overnight facilities at this
time.
Mr. Langenfeld asked if there caas any plans for expansion of the facility? llid
they foresee a need for expansion?
Ms. Erickson stated there probably would be the need, but fuuding lYas Ueen
very hard to get. She was sure thaC as time went on,the counties north of
Anoka County coi11 have shelters. At this time, their plans are only to keep
this shelter open and operating.
Mr. Aarris asked iL there coas eizough physical facilities within the structure
to handle 20-22 people?
Ms. Ericicson stated that, yes, there was.
Ms. Hughes asked how ttrey chose the number of six persons. Was that number
chosen because that is what the facility will hold or was that number based
on need? Would it be possible to e�;pand that number to seven, eight, etc.?
Ms, Erickson stated it was based on both--Che need always being greater than
what the facilities provide for. The greatest problem was finding a shelter
that caas Uig enougli.
Ms. Fambow stated the numher "six" was arrived at by considering Che area
and the number of children they could realistically expect. She stated they
will Ue subject to healtii inspection �nd will be told exactly haa many they
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can house in a given amount of square foota�e, so they wi17. be restricted Uy
that. So, they did not intend to set the number at six and then increase that
number tater on.
Mr. Harris stated he was concerned aUout the general health, safety, and
cae].fare of putting 22 people in a facility. Was there cnough room for the
bathtng facil.i_ties that would be instal7.ed and how many bathrooms are there
now?
Ms. RamLow stated there are four bathrooms--two on each fl-oor, and there is
rooui for [he Uathing facilities to be insta7.led.
MOTION by T4r. T.aaga_nfeld, seconded Uy Ms. Hughes; to close the public hearing
for �P ;',�80-02 by r_he. �noka Count:�� Task P'occe for Battered Women. Upon a voice.
voee, all voti.ng ayE, Chairs�an xlarris declared t;ze puUlic hearing closed at
8:45 p.m.
MOTI(?N '�Y P1r. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms._Gabel,_
Ll�e approvsl of a r�qaest fcr a special use perni
T�sk T'orce for Satte.red F1r.ner.: Per Scction 205.1;
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located on Lots 'LII, 19, 20, and '�l, B1ock 3, Oak
to be used as a facilitp ior bat'_ercd ta�nr-r. and ..
to recor.u��ei7d to CiL, Council
t SF ;;=80..—�2 by th:� Anolca Cc
51, 3, F, to allo„* a dwellin
Gro�ve �edi.tion to F�ridlev Pa
1�1s. Iiug}_es stated thi.s ceitain?y �vas a fecilit5 4hat �aas aeeded and, as long
as the facility was built for a kiud of pnblic use, this �aas a r�asonable
continc!ing use of thaC faci2it}�. She raas pleasc<2 wi.th the reaclion from the
County and the Couaty Commissioners.
Ms. Gabel stzxed that, as a corrmiun.ity, theq had the r.esponsiUility to provide
this lci.nd oF service.
T1r., 13oa:d„^.an stated thut the City hes aleo Ueen worlcing taith I�letropaii.�at3 Cot�ncil
throu�li the etii.sting Sect-;.cn 8 progr�m to also pro��idP hcusin�, assistance to
the women being hoi�seci at tlie shelter.
Mr. IIarris asked how Jim $i11, Pulalic S��fe.ty Di.rector, felt aUrnit tl-.is facilitiy,
Mr. �oardman stated hc felt the Poiice Department was iu favor of tne facilily.
1Ks. lirickson stated they Piave a lett_er fr.em Jim Hi11 and a letter from soc�e
of the policemen showing their sepport of the facility.
Ms. Gabe1 asked where peoole in the community could call to donate clothing
and other items to the shelter.
Ms. Rambow stat'ed Lha+.: right now people ceuld call the Anolca County Courthouse
during the day at �k421-4760, ext. 1681.
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Mr. Treuenfels staL-ed he could net support tl2is request because of its
discrimination against the male poptilation. Tt seemed to be in dire, flagrant
opposition to the ordinance which created the Human Resources Commission.
He would Ue in favor of it if it was a shelte: for battered persons.
Ms, liughes stated she did not feel tlie ordinance �aas that direct in iCs
prohibitionc_ and that you can i.ndeed provide facilities for groups that have
to be segregated for very good reasens. She agreed with P1r. Treuenfels that
it ought to be battnred people, Uut thcre are some priori.ties that have to
be set and some reasons why battered �aonen have to Ue chosen first.
Ms. GaUel stated she did not see it as discrimination, bnC rather as providing
a need.
Mr. Harris stat-ed thaY he� and 24r. Treuenfcis have been studying Che social
service 3eli.very s}�stem in Anoka County. They had au inCeresting d'iscussion
with Don idegscheider of the ;�Torth Suburban PediaL-ric Clinic in Coon Rapids
aUout this very problem. P1r. Harris stated it was his nersonal feeling that
maybe Lhis is phase one, a remedy but not a cure. Pe-thaRs, ene should think
along the lines oi correcting the i�c-�e situati_on also and the reasons Lhese
things are happeni_ng. Baticered �voman are not: tl�e only pe�ople being battered
in the county, tihere a�e ba.*.teted �,omen and some battered nen. IIe feli: that
aL' seme po;_nt in tirne, pe;�hsns pro;�rams ;;t:c.!�d be expar.ded Le; e;icomp �ss the
home situations to provide a cur� for thc s4tuatior.,
PSs. Erickson stated the shelter is only z temporar.y solution and is just one
step in begiuning to do somethine. Bef.orc Lhey ca.i loolc at a fae�ily sysCem t_o
see what is wrong, the} ti.rst ha>>e to stop "_he aUuse, and one ce•a}+ of do?.ng that
is Y.o h�ave the zaor.�an in a safe pl,.ce. She stated she is a social c�orker ior
Anoka Count}� and does family and marriage couriseling. She will not do marriage
counseling i.f abu;.e is involved, because she cannot �aor.k on the relationsiiip
until the abuse has stopped, The s?�elter is just the begiiming anri Lhere is
a lot of �aorlc to be done.
Mr. Langenfel.d stated thaL when you get involved wiCli psycho-social situaYions,
he thought the uitimaY.e gaal. is to tirst meet the needs of the ir,itiai. problem
and then go after the prevention. He felt Fridley should be proud to yrovide
a service for this l:ind of tragedy.
UPON A VOIC� VOTE, I3�1RRI5, GAII�L, TANGPNFELn, OQUIST, AND HUGHES VOTING AYL',
TREUL�IdFliLS VOTING NAY, Cfte�IRI�SAI3 IIARRIS DECLAI`�1i17 THE MOTIO� CARI2IED,
Mr. Harris thanked Ms. Eri.cicson for tl�e preseneation and stated this request
would go to City Council on April 7.
2. VACATION F.PQUPST SAV ir80-01, LsY G. W. PASCAKli: Vacate the Soath 160'
of Chat part of a drainage �4 utility easement 10 fcet on either side of
the common 1ot line of Lots 5 and 12, lil.ock 7_, Paco Industrial Park, so
tUat the Uuildings located aL 7280 Co�rnnerce Circle Easl and 7281 Commerce
Circle Tdest can be joined toge[her with a 60' x 100' Addition.
PLANNI1vG COPa4IS5I0td MI�;IiTING, MARCEI 1.9, 1980 PAGE 10
Mr. L'oardman stated that the City has received reporCs from all the uCility
companies and there are no utili.t�es withiu that easement. That easement
was set up strictly Lor drainage. Staff- did not see any proUlems with this
vacation request.
MOTIO:d by Ms. Hughes, seconded Uy tir. Oquist, to receive communications from
Northern Cablei�ision, Inc., and Northern States Power stating they have no
objections to the vacation. Upon a voice vote, al1 voting aye, Chairman Harris
declared the moCion carried unanimously.
Pfs. Ha�hes, seconded by P1r. Lan^en€eld, to recommend to Gi
�f Vacalien 1,eauest, SA�� it&0-Ol, by G. W. Paschke to vacate
160' of that.part oL a drainap,e & uti.lity_easemeiti 10 fcet on either si.de of
the comr,�on lot line o; Lots S�ar.d 12, Bl.ocic 2, Paco 7ndustria7. Parkz so that
the buildings located at 77_80 Cormnerce Circle EasL- an3 7281 Commerc��Circle
West can be joi.ned together with a 60' r. 100' Addition.
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UPON A VOICE VOTE, A�,L VOTING AYE, CI�AIRN.4N HARRIS D�CI.AR�D TIiE P10TI02�T CARRILD
UNANINOUSLY.
3. RL'CEIV� THL' i�faRC,3 6, 1980, }ILTMIAN RESOU�2CES CODA4ISSION TiINVPES;
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels,.seconded b�� Mr. LangenLcld,�to receive�the P4ar. 6, 1980,
Human Resources Com�nission minutcs.
Ms. Hughes stated that. on page 2, paragraph 4, second line, "anyone° should be
changed to "any building".
Mr. Boardmau stated that on page 4, the l�uman Resources Commission made a
motion recom�ending a,�proval of the "Guidelines for the Prioritizati�n of
Funding Requests" to Pl.annir.g Cemmz.ssion and City Cocncil. He stated those
guidelines had r.ot Ueen includec in the agenda and would be included in the
ne�;t Planning Ccm:niss=on ay,enda. �
Mr. 7tarris stated that after Pis, Cayan put together a cou�posi.te suuvnary of all
the mcetings wit:h the var.ious secial service agencies�in Anoka County, he
would like the Planning Co^�mission to disciiss �ohat role the City should play
in this situation.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VO'PIiVG AYE, CIIAIRM!'N Hf�RP�IS DliCLARED TFi� P10TION CARRIF,D
UNANI?10USLY ,
4. RECI:IVE THG MARCIi 11, 1980, i�PPF.ALS CO^1PIISSION hfINUTES:
MOTION Uv his. Gabel, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to receive the Mar. 12, 1980,
Appeals Cocunission ntinutes.
UPON A VOICE VOTli, ALL VOTING AITi, CIiAIRt-81N iInRKIS DECLARED THE AtOTION
CAP.RIISD UNANITtOUSLY.
PLANNING COiutISSION M��TING, MARCfi 19, 1980 PAGE 11
5. RECEIVE T1IE MARCII 17.y 1980, COP1M[JNITY DFVtiLO�'N1GNT COA?i�fISSTON PiINUTES:
MOTION by P1r. Oquist, secoaded by Mr. Treuenfels, to receive the Mar, 11, 1980,
Community Develop:r.ent Commissi.on minutes.
Ms. Huohes stated that on page 1, paragraph 3, under Item 1, "Riverside Plant"
should be changed to "Minneapol:.s Sdat�rworks".
UPON A VOICli VOTE, ALL VOT.ING �'+S �, CfiAIRMe1Sd }iARR�S DECLARE➢ T�IE MOTION
CARRIED UNAfiIPSOUSLY.
6. COidTSNIICD; PROPO�ED CHANGi=; TO CIIAPTER ?.05. 70h�IPIG:
MOTION by Nr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to continue discu,sion
on Proposed Changes to Chapter 205. Zening. Upon a voice votie, a11 voting
aye, Chairman Harris declared the mcti_on carried unanimously.
7 , 0'PHER P>l?SI\LSS :
P1r. Har�-is stated h� ilad a notice from tlie Government Trainiug Service about
a tx'aining s2minar in 131oomi.ngCOn.
Mr. Board�:an stated chat three stz�if pcoplc c.i11 t�e attendirig that meeti.ng.
PSr.. ?iarris stated he had a co��c�:unic�.cion f!'om Spring I,atce Park beio:re Plannin�;
and Zaning which was an a�plieatior. foi a zonin� c;eaage £ram C1 to Z1 £or
mini-storc.ye gara��_,s +at 832� lini��e�si[y Ave.
Mr. �oardman stated tl.lzs item had been tab'.ed. At the Feb. 27 meef:ing, the
Fridley Pl.annin�: Co�mui.ssiou had expressed cencerr a��out drainage aiid he caould
check further into this.
Mr. Harris stated he also had a cur.�munication frcm Spring La,: Far'r, for a
request for a speci.al vse pernit to operate a hu>iness dealin� ��ith L-he
installaticn of electronic cr�ntrols at 8437 University. f�e did aot uaderst2nd
why a special use permiY. taas needed.
Mr. Boardman stated he would ch?cic into thi_s si.tvation a1so.
MOT7C� by Mr.. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, Lo receive the twe commi.ni-
cations from SpYing Lake Park. Upon a voice vot'e, a11 wting aye, Chairman Harris
declared the moCion carried unanimously,
Mr. Langenfeld stated there will be an Earth Shclter �k2 semivar al- the
Leami.ngton Hotel on April 9-11 sponsored Uy th.. Underground Space Center
of the UniversiCy of P4innesota if any of the Planning Commissiou members
were iuterested in aClending.
PLAIV4ING CO't1MISSION MT'.ETING MAP.CH 19, 1980 _ PAGE 1.2
ADJOUItNNI:NT :
MOTION by P1r. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to adjourn the ineeting.
Upon a voice vote, all. voting aye, Chairman lIarris declared the March 1°, 1980,
Planning Co��mission meeting aujourned at 11:15 p.m.
Res�ectfully sv�}}mitted,
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Recording Secretary
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NPC 5 AIRPORT INSTALLATION NOISE PERMITS
DEFINITIONS
1. "Aircraft" means any contrivance now known or hereafter
invented, used or designed for n:avigation of or flight in the
air.
2. "Airport" means any area of land or water that is used o�
intended to be used for the landing and takeoff of aircraft, and
includes its buildings and facilities, if any.
3. "Certified air carrier" means a carrier that operates under
a certificate of public convenience and necessity aranted by the
Civil 1�eronautics Board.
4. "ModiFication" means a chan_qe to an existing airport which
ntay result, directly or indirectly, in an increase of the sound levels
emitted by the operation of t?�e airport.
but are not limited t.o:
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Such modifications may inclu�'er
--addiner or eliminating a runway or taxiway
--altering the length, width or strength o.f an existing runway or
taxiway
-- altering runwa�� lighting usage or capabilities
--adding or altering the size or location of terminal�, hangers and
servicing facilities y
--addin� or increasing parking capacity for motor vehicles
--addin3 or expanding control tower facilities or personnel
--adding or expandinq navigational aids or instrumentation
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"Operation" m eans either a takeoff or a landing.
"to commence construction" means to engage in a
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continuous program of c onstruction including site clearance,
gra3ing, dredging, or land filling specifically for an airport of
the type listed in section B of this rule, in preparation of the
fabrication, erection, or installation of the components of the
airport. For the puxpose of this paragraph, interruptions resulting
from acts of God, strikes, litiqation, or other �atters beyone the
controlb� the owner shall be considered in detennining whether a
construction program is continuous.
7. "To commence modification" means to engage in a continuous
program of modification, including site clearance, grading, dredging,
or land filling specifically for an airport of the type listed in
section B of this rule, in preparation for a specific modification
of the airport. For the purpose of_ this paragraph, interruptions
resulti.ng from acts of God, strikes, litigation, or other matters
beyond the controlof the owner shall be considered in determining
whether a modification program is continuous.
8. "TOUCh-and-go" is an operation by an aircraft that lands
and departs on a runway without stopping or exiting the runway.
A touch and go is deemed to be two operations.
B. INSTALLATION PERMITS
1. Permit Required. No person shall commence modification
or construetion on any airport described below until a written
installation permit has been granted by the Agency.
(i) airports which are served by scheduled air service of
certified air carriers
(ii) airports with home-based get aircraft or with
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facilities to fuel and service jet aircraft
(iii} airports at which there are 90,000 or more annual
operations,
2. Fermit Appiication. Any person who is required to obtain
an installation permit under this rule shall submit to the
Director plans and specifications for the airport of its proposed
modification. Every application shall contain the following
information:
(i) A copy of any draft or final environmental impact
statement which has been prepared pursuant to the
National Environmental Policy Act, (42 U.S,C, 4321), or
a copy of any draft or final environmental assessment
or environmental impact statement prepared pursuant to
the rules of the Minnesota Environmental Quality Board.
(ii) A noise study of the receiving land areas surrounding
the airport for which an installation permit has been
requested, identifying existing noise sources and sound
levels, All such studies shall be conducted in
accordance with test procedures and computer modeling
techniques approved by the Director.
(iii) Detailed plans of the proposed modifications or
construction, including the probable types and numbers
of new noise sources, estimates of their noise
emissions and estimates of the sound levels at the
receiving land areas surrounding the facility� £or the
projected noisiest hour of the facility,
(iv) Proposed methods for the control of noise emissions.
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(v) Any additional information or documentation that the
Director deems necessary to determine the noise impact
of the proposed modifications or construction,
3. Decision. The agency shall not grant an installation
permit unless the Agency determines that the airport as proposed
to be constructed or modified will comply with the noise
standards of 6 MCAR s 4,2002 and the requirements of all other
applicable pollution control statutes and rules,
C. PERMIT CONDITIONS
1. The following conditions apply to all permits issued
under this rule:
(i) A permit shall not release the Permittee from any
liability, penalty, or duty imposed by Minnesota or
federal statutes or rules or local ordinances except
the obligation to obtain the permit,
(ii) A permit shall not prevent the future adoption by the
Agency of any pollution control rules, standards or
orders more stringent than those now in existence or
prevent the enforcement of such rules� standards, or
orders against the permittee,
(iii) The Permittee shall install or modify and operate the
airport covered by the permit in accordance with plans
and specifications submitted to the Aqency and
referenced in the permit.
(iv) The Permittee shall not knowingly make any false
statement� representation or certification in any
record, report� plan, or other document required to be
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submitted to �he Agency under this permit, The
Permittee sHall immediately upon discovery report to
The Agency any errors in such records, reports; plans,
or other documents.
(v) The Permittee shall allow the Agency, or any
authorized employee or agent ef the Agency, when
authorized by law and upon presentation of proper
credentials, to enter upon the property of the
permittee for the purpose of oFitaining information or
examining reEOrds or conducting surveys or
investigations pertaining to the issuance or
maintenance of the permit.
(vi) The Permittee shall allow the Agency� or any
authorized employee or aqent of the Agency, when
authorized by law and upon presentation of proper
credentials, to examine and copy any books, papers,
records, or memoranda pertaining to the installaticn
or operation of the noise emission �acility covered by
` the permit.
(vii) The Permittee shall submit periodic progress.reports
to the Agency reciting progress and problems occuring
in the installa�ion or modification of the airport
covered by the permit, (A time schedule for
submission of these reports skiall be included in the
permit.)
(viii) The Permittee shal2 advise the Agency immediately upon
completion of installation or modification at the
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airport.
(ix) Such other conditions as the Agency may prescribe for
the prevention of noise, air, water and solid waste
pollution,
D. PERMIT PROCEDURE
The Agency sha1Z follow the procedure set out below on alI
agplications for an installation permit for an airport or
modification thereof.
1. Within thirty (30) days after receipt of a completed
permit application, the Agency shall:
(i) Make a preliminary evaluation of the impact of the
airport or its modification and advise the applicant of
any deficiency in the information submitted, In the
event of such a deficiency, the date of receipt of the
application for the purpose of subparagraph (1) shall
be the date on which all required information is
received by the Agency.
(ii) Make available for public inspection, at the applicable
regional Agency office, a copy of all materials
submitted by the applicant and a copy of the Agency's
preliminary evaluation of its noise impact,
(iii) Give notice by prominent advertisement in a newspaper,
in the region affected, of the location where the
information required in subparagraph (ii) is available
and of the opportunity to submit written comment on tHe
permit application for a period of thirty (30} days.
(iv) Provide a thirty (30) day time period for submittal of
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uritten public comment.
(v) Send a copy of the notice specified in subparagraph
(iii) to city and counLy officials, in the region
affected, to the appropriate regional development
commissfons, to Lhe State Plannin� Agency, to the
Minnesota Department of Transportation, to the
applicant, and to all other persons deemed by the
Airector to have an interest in th> permit application.
2. Public comments submitted in ariting within the thirty
(3�) day cocnment period shall be considered by the Agency in
making its final decision on the permit application, All
co�n�>nts sha11 be made availzble for public insp=ction in at
leas� one location in the region affected.
'. The P.gency shali take final action on the pernit
'Fplication within forty-five (4-�) days zfter the close of th�
pu5lic co�n�ent p�rio�, uniess such psriod is exte7dew pursuz�t to
saction D,4. "fotica of the fina� d=cision shall be �nade
av2i1�_le for public inspection in 2'_ least one loc2tion i.^. the
rr.yion zffect=d.
u• Th� Age�tcy may extend each of the tiTe periods sp�cifie�
ia this s_ction for a period no* Lo exceed thirty (30) �ay; or
suc'.� oth>r period as agreed to by t4e applicar,t, t;ot'�ir.� herein,
however, shall preclud� th= h,�ncy fro� extending a�y of th�se
t='�° periods for an appropriate len,;±h of tine if it decides t�
hold � public hearing or public meeting on a�y per�r:it
application, or if an Pnvironmental impact statem�nt on the
airport or modification is prepared.
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E. EXE'"PTI^�1S
1. New airports for which construction has commenced, and
modifications of existing airports which have been co�nrnenced
prior to the effective date of this rule are exempt from the
requirements of section B.
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SUGJECT:
;�larch 27, 19f;0
JERRY BOARDM,4N, PLAf;A![R
THE CITY'S COURSE OF ACTIOi7 F:EfaFiRDIIr'G ALLEY VACATTOPlS
7here was a concensus ai the City Council Conference Meet.ing of A1arch 24,
1980, thai the City sYiould not vaca±e any alleys or initiate uny
action by itself. If anybody, especially in the residentiai areas,
wishes to come in aiid request vacaticn of an alley, they shoulc! ba
advised they should get a petitien of 700�� of the property oiwiers
affected agreeing to the proposal before the City v!ould proceed on the
vacation request. In such cases, the City �•;ould not �°equire a vacation
fee.
If anyboriy t•rishes to re�uest a vacati��n arithou.t a 100q za,ree�r.ent of the
property o,vners affected, they should pay the reyular fee and the City
vaould go throGgh the legal requirern2nt process; hovrever, the applicants
should be strongly advised that the c„ances of getting an alley
vacated are pretty r•enote, if even on� person affected objected to
such a vacation.
Thank you for your assistance.
NMQ/ms
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GUIDELINES FOP. THE PRIORITIZA710Pt OF FllP10IPlG P,EQUESTS - FIP�AL DRAFT
I. The City Council i-s establishing this v�ritten procedure for the fol-
lowing reasons:
° To develop an effective method for receiving and considering re-
quests.
° To maximize the benefits to the citizens of Fridley frorn the lim-
ited resources available for human services funding.
° To maintain objectivity and equity in granting funding requests.
° To provide a means of responding to community needs and interesCs
that may change from year to year.
II. The completion of the followir�g procedures is the responsibility of
the Human Resources Commission with implemertation contingent upon
the review and approval of the Planning Commission and the City
Council.
° A letter specifying the required information for consideration
for funding and the deadiine for application ��iill be sent to the
groups and a;encies who have previously requested funds rrom the
city. This information wi�l also be available to other gro:+;s
upon reGuesi.
° All requests fo:^ funding must be submitted prior to July 1 for con-
sideration for the foiloriing fiscal year.
° The Human Resources Corrunission may requesi an oral explanation of
the written request from each :,pplicant prior to establishing th°
priority ranking.
° Requests r2ceived t��ill be prioritized by the Numan R.esources Corrris-
sion based upon a 10 point scale with a high score corresponding �rith
a high priority ranking. (See page 3)
° The Numan Resourczs Cor.!mission wili make fur,dir.g level recomnendat�ons
based upon the prioritization ef all requests ar,d upo� a percentage
of the total fur�ding available.
III. Proposa7s submitted by groups or agencies must incl�de the following:
1. A financial stater,ient for the preceeding fiscal year "and a proposed
budget for the upco�r�ing fiscal year•.
2. A request for a specific dollar amount.
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3, A listing of other sources of funding available to the applicant.
4. An explanation of the organization's need for city fundirg.
5. An explanation of community need for the proposed service includ-
ing a discussion of possibie alternative sources for those ser-
vices available H�ithin the community. ,
6. Estimates of the total number of people excepted to participate
or to receive direct benefits and the number of Fridley residents
expected to be served.
7. A general description of the agency or group including its mission,
and objectives for the coming fiscal year, date established, and
legal basis (i.e. individual, partnership, non-profit, public etc.)
8. An explanation of the areas of expertise of the agency or group
including a description of the range of staff capability.
IV. Upon cornpletion of the funding period, each group or agency receiving
funds will be required to submit an annual report detailing the ex-
penditure of the grant and an eva7uation of the success of the program
in achieving their stated objectives.
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A. Bud et (20} Score
(70) 1. 7he total amount requested is reasonable �
given the overall program budget.
(10) 2. The budget is accurate given the objectives
of the proposal durin9 the grant period:
B. Community Need (30)
(10J 1. The �um6er of Fridley residents served is
high in relation to the amount requested.
{10) 2. This service does not overlap �•iith services
provided elsewhere in the community.
Note: If there are other organizations �vorking in
the same service area, has the applicant
identified them and can the applicant's ser-
vice be coordinated v�ith them?
(10) 3. The applicani is mee�ing an important community
need.
C. Orgariization PJeed (20)
(10) 1. The program is not viable v+ithout l�cal financial
support or partial support.
(1p} 2. There are few, if any, alternate sources of fund-
ing available to the applicant.
D. Program Qua7i�.y (30)
(10) 1. The applicant has a realistic view of their re-
sources anrl the progra�n is limited to their.Jevel
of competence. .
(10) 2. The applicant indicates the availability of an
effective staff.
(10) 3. The administrative and program service costs are
in reasonable balance.
Total
(100 possible points)
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t�ry;¢��as�f.�t ��i��aion �hinutes. ` ` _
te fa�i.lawit�.cfiasq�e.was�made Co;,tke miaixtes oa page it},.paragrap8 3: �
t�1e�.�i}e:,pretets�e'.`. �hou3:d be ahangad to „with the.,#nC�nt".,
;� 40�G�° SFEY#�$� `?i�.Ir �� AYE � GHA�8PER5{1N �,^> �tECf,�R$D TAE MINUZ'ES
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,.;��3,g to V4s�:t Recse�lnn Cen�ers -.Item D under "Dfrector's S€port"
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,� ��� $3%�y��sY�a�ads £or 19$0 - Item D �sntte� `�e�T Bus�aeas° ,?
, ;::���xsa - �Ttem H auder "New Bus£nes�" '
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3 ,b�Y; Ids. $ee�„ sec9�ed by Atr. Youngh tt� �p�a�re, the agemla as �ended; .
i� a'v��ce vote, a13 vating aye„ Chairperson �lu��F��.declared `the motion
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PA1tRS tx RECREATION`C4MMiSSI�iY'A9E�ING. MARCH t? > 2984 PAGE 2
I. DZRECTOR'S:REPfIRT•
A, fntroduction - Mr. Dan Ailen {New Carm�;ss3tm meaib�r'effective �/1/80):
Ms. Eiughes intrcduced Mr. A��:en to each member of the Coam�ission.
Mr. kilen stated he has been iaith the University'of Minnesata's
Recreation SpoYte pfffce for ten years. %e has 2fved ia Fr£d3ey
since`1976, and hopes;to take,part in the Co�nissiczn, not so mucfi
with his-background, b£�t with:the City ftself.
B. Recreation/Natural Resources,;Yg�rly Report - 1979
Dr. Boudreau gave the;�camis�ion members egpies of the 19Z9 Recreation
and'�Tatural Reseruzces Yearly.;Reporte> He stated the reporr was in two
parts. The fir�t part was tAe Recreation Pragram Repozt, which was a
' means,;for justiFying their"being and justifying the:budget numbers.
It was compiled using'a meGhod knowa as the Econom3e 8quivalency Index -
(SEI}: The B&I is t�as�d on age of pariicipant, the number of participants,
the participant hour, and th� mi,nimam wage rate. Mr. Boudreau stated
they have now gotten to Che �oint where the segort is all eomputexized.
' He stated that in the �i.dd}.erof the report; efie Gommiseion`should nQte
that the c.ost benefit'ra*io �iad gone:down fram .279 .in 197� to ,207
in 1979.
Ar. Boudreau stat�d Chat the;second gart of'the report was the Naturalist ,
Divisipn's Annual Repart far i479. T(ie NaCuralist'-Division's E�Z had
flropped from $48,340 tn 147$`_to $34;632 in-Y979.' The number of partici-
pants had dropped by �houb 2,800 and the"number of'participant hours had
dxoppeti abo�rt $,400 hnurs, This was si.mply because of the laek of staff
(they had losL GETA e�[plogees) and also they have reduced the range of
service, ra�ige meaning �he distauce-from the City of Fridley.
Ms. Hughes stated she:would iike the Comaiission members to look over
' these`reports. I£ they had .�ny questio[1s, they could ask them at the
next aieeting.
• C. 1974-$0 Ice Fink Attendance Figures.
Dr. �audreau ga�e the;Couanission memhers eopies of the 1979-80 Ice Rink
At.tendance Figures. '�e state�l that Burlington 1vTnrChern was the'least
attended with 273. CYaig, whose warming house mras closed on Jan. 25,
had the second lowest`'attendacice at 5�+5, anti Log�n was tP[ird with 586.
He stated the;Gortsnission shanld keep these three'areas in mind when it
comes time far a reco�anendatton ioz'Che ic¢ a�eas for'the`1980-81 season.
Dr. Boudreau stated t�i�t the other ice areas ras� pretty true to form.
Ttiey were down a few �rom the previous year, pri.marily due to the older age
: groups:
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�etas .tli
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:ccsucJea by �1�,
x�Ces . iTpon a �
�red the mo�f�r
a�C�,ded by Mr:
C�d ac 7:30 p.m,
�,i�re plan far.
�an a_boice vat
area cne m@ea,.€t� ,ea€FLex� unaninnwsiy.
. Cs� Visit Resreatfpnal Centers �
;$oudcea�r s�ate8 �bat,the Parks &-R.ecreation Cammissioa snd the Gity
��1-ve.x`e �p,�fCed an a trig to vi:sft the 8ronklyn Center, �ad St. I,ouis Park ''3
�e�t'�.�l�facilitie�. 2his trig has §aen-'plaaned for Sat�., Mar,`-15. �
��i.12"leave City FEall at 9:QQ a,m; aqd w3iT r�tutn about 12:30zp.ma
3���t � S RSPiTRT s
tmectt Deals krith Equal Opgo�tunity . ,�
�:.8�ed she bad asked I7r. $os3dseau to $et some inforn�aCioh �
;,�he C�iasiun waswhaC tfie City do,es on �gua�:oppartunity. This =.
i�st w8e geueraCed bq her•reading some news articles an wh$t schools `!
,requited tp do. Her questirna was, what:was the City's poliey and �
z�s; it, �mplemeneea? '
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. ��exssdtea�.;�aan�ted out copies of a nee+spaper article entitled, "Hoese
�oyei� ;#'r�,i��.8atting.-guideliu;ea. in boYs �, 8�tls' sgorts�,. He stated i
s hi:�1 ia: ia�} the Govemur's desk to be si.$�ed, The b'ill would coariaue ' �
sl��tssv s�;�a�k�e, ��ams for: girls and bog� iu; 3t�. &chooL aad wou�d: allow ;_
kt$ fig Lt�� out ftiY�' lia�*s' Eeams but Aot vie� veXSa, . `�
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&.a�dresu stated that i,u the past, y�uth undes 11; pxs. were r�ta� '' '
�jse� Caheve segarate teams in recrsation aad scllavls. AfCer lZ3�rs.,-� �
�.E4tild be segarate. as long as it promated u3�+�e gartic#,gat�on. <j
� hiti-�}rs,: in geueral, that schooi.� ���� �?aards must provii'�e �
�, 'epg��t�i�y it� sports Co both sex�= azxd_ Chere must be equal,it�ti in �
>1f.es,; �acf�:ities, p�astice time sud_c.oacb3Ag. .: :�
�;�ut��esu sta�ed tizey did change f'�cf�t �� �hd giris acCivitiea to
�i, sati��*�ti�$, b�at� tl}�: activitiea��sr�'4�ie�'°�cz both boqs, and glrls`.
� have fo�,ad thaC 3f oae or twa hoys si��?�. �p €or an �cCfvity that.
.�;���'g�ria� the �bnqs us�ally;drop ouk: 1'�is was also �,t�ue wiEh
�^�i,�; Snt, he stated.t�#ey are.doing jc�t;a�,icastly what Che �ew Iaw
4��.ii�►g,.�hem to do.
�3�udxeaµ sEated .EhaC �rheu,�. g,e�s: more iixfqr�ati.cs�i: qn tha bill,'fie will
re Etia�, iaEiar�atiaII vr2tit �C�se Camnissian.. ��. �
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PAf,E 3 ` �
�eiae: tha 19�it*BD
voting ape,
mously.
ive the Notice of #
i980, at City Hali ,,�
�i River Islands of ;�
aqe, Ghatrpersou Hughes
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Phit�S & RECREAi�ON -G'�SSI�I� �S&$',�IN� t'iAkCFi �2� :1480 - PAGE 4
8. NSP Pac,�r Plant �3Ces �
Ms. Hughes stated that a representat3ve fxom NSP visited the Planniug
Coamitssion and'le£� some slte,designs for:the proposed 20fl megawatt
power plaat. One cif the proposed site:� fs fn Fri3ley and is located
�ust south of'694 andlnorth of FMC. They were also shown the Coon.ftapids j
site map wh3ch is just north of North Park. She was coacerned abont
what these sftes mighC,mean to Fridlep's.parks.
Ms, �ughes stated the �acision on the site will be.made within the
next eaupie of years, sus3 Chere would oe hearinga on the sitings.,
Ms. Hughes stated that the Planning Ca'amission have talked as thaugh
this 3� not a very re�i problem and thar these sites are piobably a
smoke screen sa Lhe p2�nt cax� ba put at Riverside. 'NSP is alseady doing
' some expansion'and sbm� co-g¢neration at Riversid:e. Sha sCated the
Fridley site is t}:e svrtilest site, and, atso, when NSP proposed this
si'te, they did'noC knota abou� the Great Rtver Road Project, The Coon
Fapids site would be izisectecl hy the new Hi:ghway 10.
t�Is, Aughes stated she'?would keep the Coucnisslon informed. She felt 3t. .
;vaa varth keepiag tra�+k of, $ut it may aot be a'big psoblem.
C. Ci_tizens.` Committee •
` Ms. Hughes stated thaC at the last meeting, the Commisaion passed a
motion �ecommending thac a clCizens' co�Ctee be �stablzsh��l to explore
xll poss£biliti,es for'a Frid�.eq reczeation; center at the Fz°?dley
coromutiity perk. The �'lanniztg Commi�siou made a motiou recu:+.•mending
that the E'arks F� �ecreation Co�nission act'as the committee responsible
for exploring`Che possi.bil�ties for a racYeation center, rather than
having a citizens' c�s�.ttee:," and that it would be c✓ithin the Commission's
pocaer to set it up as;'a projeet committee, She oranted to,report this to
the C€�mmissfon as Chey needed'to discusa it a liCtle further as to what
[he Gavmiissiozi sho�Id; do.
Dr. Boudreau;stated i�e wauld still like to'see a eitizens' cqmmittee
` involved'itt the enti�i; project from the word °gp".. He wnuld like to _
be akle to wri�e,Zett€rs to Che city o�ganizations to see'if`they would
Iike'io have �:epresentati,ves serve on�Ehi:s committee to get Cheir input
and wfieever eise was`interested in serving. He saw the cnmmittee:ae
havi�ig;; as ma�ty as i5-20 memt;�zs--peop3e wtco wou2d help them 8o what the;
hoped to acc�nplish.'
Ms, Hughas statEd she'agreed'that they needed a co�ittee, but""when°
waa the,quest#or. She sta�ed she did no& think she knew a'2ot about
the deve�opsuent of t{5e Sea�'s property, maybe hecause she has only been
cn the Coumiission far;e.year: Maybe the Co�missiun tteeded to take a
"°'�s -3��&�e�u. at
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, d&t��3.'oFu�eaC.: 1s�
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xt,,lay out a scheme ,�
�d tn know what the E
�xeh gces inCa ttte ;"
.�ft�ies, and how �quch �
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t�;�a� the> �fty reeeit�ied - $��, �Q . ia yAWCO� .fsod� �as�d '-'
that wfth Sfi3,00a t� �,suncl��s�.th� iand. This p,�z-. " '�
AWCON grsat ia" th$ aancatA� o�"<�lb$>QDO which, agai�.��,, ;i'
stage-wise by the �it;,�, aPPXOxiu�ate�.� $52,000,, far : , ' . ';
ing and the dev�lopment of a tral�.' �ie18 area. Alon� �iith' Ct:e t:
Ci.tq's mattch> the t�!ki has p�.�edg�i���r4,090 and �he F"Y&A
t�Qb .sli far the deve�€�Pment of t�; ��kletic axea.
t`td yt3tey do �ilan rnr submi,tting a�UN application• far ;
which will be the parking toes'and�the xest of the ;�
$2�,fl04 is the li�i:t. The �ft�lttaRUin$ year t�ey hoge to
�i19.(1UO grant foX fiarmucing and atlaer impravements.. -�
ted-he would also submit to t}�e,C�ssfan a written ;
i th k atLd ttt� rzcr�ation center
s
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�d they had gbt�ea a.request f�c� ��'i�d7-ey Tiger �
infvrmat on on e par
Chat�the .patk and� �r� �r�c�e��;�i..building �s�auld be
��yate items.' After. Dr: Boud��st3 suBtaits a report on
ians, €inancing,, and time�ali�.e, tke".Co�iaeion casx talk
� at. the ae5ct meeting. , ":'
a#��. Touzaac�eut
for
to
�;;� ;otte of �he g°�oups ;th�t was trad�.ti
:� by Ma� M�h> sec,onded hy Mr. Ra
'�g4� Hise�ey 8voster Glub's so£tbali t
Park, wi��1� Che` usual stipulati
�,��8;aye.s ��f�e��on Hughes declara
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�i���tball_taurname�t � � �
k;���te1d on Jpne.27-29.
��s a year:and this ':
�ded the privh.lege. ;
%i;apprpve the Frid�ey
��;pu�.J#ne 27-��9 at �
on a voice.vaCe, all �'
tiun- carried.'ynanimausiy.
3w.�.oT.Nacu�r t.eA'���r�aciai€Y ��a�w+ . . .;' .; .�.� . . . � ... � ... .�.
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3t.� �Iais sta#�+�'�`����b. 27,'ti��f�#���f3,�ially opeaed bida�
ae ,aature.�e�sCer fae4li�. �he suggested ba�,3. P?rk Pxfc�; suggested
�e f��taneA=�l,,coaaultant €�.�� archit@cts wss ar.ouncb $3�22,000..:
� tfine�`;ti� �fitilancial cQUisix3�t�t- feiC Ctie 'fi$��.�cnsld inciude. ` ;
�e bid gias.alt :the a}��raat#�.es. The,,.2owest ta#d was.received ''
B�td,�;phnaoa Canstructi�.,`Ga, and �hat b�d:saas 5493,446 includiug
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PARKS S� REGREA'LZU�f C4�A+IISS�IC�N tfiL'�TtNG, MARCH 12, l7uv PAGE o
the alternatives. Witho�sC C�e aiternatives, the figure ca�e in at
$37fi,R�0 fr� She`'same firm.: Altaruatives inclucled small tfiin�s such
as tiling, pain�iag, carpeting, etc,' on the interior, windows� framing
for the second floor,.etc. Three o�her �mportaut alternat3ves are:
(1) extra roout in t8eiuvrthwestern eox�tei vf the building; (2} stairway
exit at the baEk oi'Y.2te huikding ta meet fire cade,• and (3) parkitig
lots and sidewa2ks ca�L�tg up to the baikdittg.
Mr. 5t. Clair stated ti�ey we.re overwhelmed with these figures. I1e stated
he and Mr. &oax�zlman then met with an'Elk River firm that had faat taken
aut bid doeutuents . T%tat fixr�ru thought that ' if the City was' to rebid, by
doing sligAt ehangas'in the'.bid documents and changing the types of
materials, the p13ce rvuld h� bronght down $100,OQ0. Mx'. 3t. Clair
beiieved that`taas $1�4,00(i tiown from the �ntal t+id and nob the base bid
' without the aiternatives,
Mr. St. C2air atated tfiey thea met with Bud Joimson Construction Co. and
talketl -abotat 'C� potet�tial of bringing the bid dpwn with changes in
materaals aad reduciztig certain mechanical e]:ements;in.the buiiding. By
c5anging litG2� thing� avch as the kind of doors, etc;, the Hucf Johnson
Constrnction"Gv. was a�ie tis','reduce-the buse price by $47,300, bringing
the Uase bid dawn Co �3�9,000; There wer�.also some other changes
possible they;lta�3 s�q�`;ineluded, and:i£ these changes were made, the firm
may be able to corae tfowa scuxie.more.
MY. 5t. Clair stated �hat he'; Mr. Boardman,'and Dr: Boudreau meC with
� the C�:ty 1�Fanager, an�the �i;Cy Manager deCf�led that �in order���to come ���
up with the monies ne�d2d foY sewer attd c��ater htiok-up and"c+thax expenses,
plus:the grane, if tlrey could get the contractor to come down to $310,000,
they would.go wi4h ti�aC. :I�: St. Cia�r stated t.hey have.passed that
i.nformati,ou on �o the eoust�ruction fiz�l, and they will ba working with
the arch3tects to try �o make more c'ci3nges to briug docm that price.
IIt. $ouckreau-sta�ed tte had talked brieifp with:Mr. Boardman that day
and had been infs�tmed that fite construction firm had come!dovm to
$319,000. He.'did not ha�e ai�y more inforniation than that at this time.
Mr. St. Clair stated `that rai.ne firms bfd the project and the maximum
bid mas $622,6fl0.
' Dr. Boudreau sta[ed t3ie City is loakin�; at $310,000 far the building,
then<there<are axchitiectural fees af 13°!, water'and sewer'hook-up
totalling about �25-36,000.' He stated he and Mr. St. Clair are concerned
wit&°the objectives Chey sta.rked out to do with;tfie huilding and that
was the square fa�ta�e snd att earth-sheltered fac3lity with same kiud
of passive solar tha�°'wouId meet Mr. St. C£air's needs, They are willing
ito sacrifice the waCer �nd sewer aud go with saCellites.if thcy can,
Theiir'main qh;j�c�ive �.s to get Che-facility;built:' 'EhirCy-thousand
c�ollars mora -werca�d tr� neetle�l so put i.n the two �lternatives, the extra
xoem and the fitairway, '
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r.. Bc�eiT�a�s re�i��
�An �t',��ed tha� �e
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'��° t�rC�er ways� cno�#.
ce ���.i�g to' raisa
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y,�Iiexe. are, t�t2��: rlii�g
, agaisf. c�lrrow; the i
at this meetin�:.
Ms. Rug�tes asked t�e-�;
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��%t CTtey siitwld ds '��ys can to keep Che
t g�,aqf�ed foi ��e bsr;E� .:" �
;�1` felt i.0 �as: verg 38�8nt to ke�p in ' ;".
►I�, aii�:-tioa,. a�t'A2ts���k�� :2 - the stairway.
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ihe gassibilitfes were fcsr;'#s�.ag monies out' tr� "�
��sartment's eagital outkS�N�ydget7
£elt Lhat oh�ugeg itt.the cu�:sen� capiCal outiay
:easib7:e a1C��aative, because they hav� justified
;y much needed. :Se feif Ciiere were other monies
he�ving ta take.it aut:::u# t�e meager �apital outla�y
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xroaching Anoka.Couaty for help. : ��
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rst � Springhxpciit. �ta'ree Center Foupdation fiad
fl;Et.�i thgir funds�-and �ld be more thaa�w�1%fng
:ii �help c �� �
�qts}d-ifk� cog3.e� of [lse ca;Qital outlay budget so
ilk,ia.terms o� what speci�:ica}.ly could ba done _
-F� ccxue up wiCh some 'oth�r id.�as. $i�e statefl Che
�5�-sc�js�der recp�euflin�g ���" C�te �aatex and seT�r � ��
��.i.s ti.me and de,�3.niteky:�o.�kiz�g inCa and sidewalks.
;he capiCal ceiClay bu�e� �+ith the Co�ao3.s��nn.- He k
s, againat takiug, mamsy��t�:#cated Eor s�eci�fi�,it�n.s .
�,�h�•,C�Ly hapget�� tn b� fR e b#md. �le, felt �aere
Coir�d be raiaed ia eh�+�ttity i�f t#e peap3e ;
3�mi and �-if the :people. x�a�.3.g �aant. the t�is��s ia` � "�
a fslt.ehe.Go�nission was jumping to coueluaic�s
th�C h�3� beex►��,repazted��F`w2tat ��s ha�pe3t�d �to Sate, �
g�r�t to-�e exPLq�ed, a�pd �i,rie,.� � khey will be� meeting -
Ea7�ma�on tomot�ovs cwtiS�'=� di££er-ent than it� is �
Young �ta�ed i�e z�� ,
ko
�s3on if they wc�e wi7.l3ng to help raise
3�,es in tlre `EOCSm�unl:�g aiid individuals, as Chat
. maise to ths C�yL�s.;,�'�"eil; .
z�;�gai�� r�i�� ��, but he thAUg3�t the
9�rninilatioa tit+er�tlae ��izaCion thaC should
�,fu�cls far t�.'6u£�.�#�n�:: The3� had speat fbur
sk f�+r thie -naGUre ce�ker "a� .had �more cloui
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' Dr. Boudreau stated he iiis�gieed with t(3at. He felt it was time that ,
the citi.zens and the GYCy o�`Fridley stp�sd up and were covnted on this
thing, and it,shauld not be,'passed off to the Foundat��n. He stated that
if the peaple reallg want th3s facilit3�, he'felt the people and companies
eould get behind 3t a�ci suppart it and"cau�d;generate ttrat kinsl of money.
' Ms. klughes staCe� Cha�, at this point., she felt the Co�ission should
� make some reegtmneridat.�.otz as ;to whether fihey wanted the City to rebid
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the buildi ' b*� takin fE �t of the ound' whether Che ;wartted the
n8 3
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City'to accept tha lov bid �aaking neaessary adjustments, and whether
they wanted to kaep iit the �wo alternativ�s, the roam addition and Che
. stairway.
Tfie Goamnissiqn agreed'to ur�e the ffity Council to accept the low bfd and
buil3:Che buiiding, �n�ludit}g the Yoom expaYisiom and &tairway alternatives,
thaE.the sewer attd cra�er be,deiayed; if necessa�y, and that internal
changes are o.k. as �g as_these chang�s'are agreeable with Mr. St, Clair.
If the bid goes over �3�5,Qt?Q, thett the City ought to come up with the
moaey that wi1Z inciuzle tihe architectural'fees, the basic builcLing, and
the sezrer and �ater lt#�ok-u�,, The-Commission members would be happy to
raise outside funds fot fiaishing the �ztteriar of the buildipg:
Ms, Iiughes encouraged, �1I CHe Cou�i.ssion aiembers to come to the City '
Gouncil meeting on M4ac�ay, �tarch 17, wkeu this•would be on-the agenda,
C, Mr. Jack Kirk - Plzildsophy `
hlr. Kixk stated he gk*a�ivated from the j3niversity of Minneaota in 1975
and.worked £or the C�$y of Goon Rapids be�ore coming to the City of
Fridley three qeaYS �go.
'Mr.Kirk stated it wag bis philosophy that recreation must'be recognized
as an important comp4*nsnt i� everyone's -Life; iti pxovides a sehse of
accom�lishment, self*saCisf�ction, and happiness.
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Mr. Kirk statefl that"as far as the community recreation prngram, they
affer a wide vsriety:-of prQgrams tq meet the wishes and aeeds of tMe
' ciCizens and try to include""all activi[q areas. If anyone requests a
program, they Ioak aC:that program;,and many prugrams are as a resuit of
citi'xen reques�s. HP staeffd that when Mr. Boudreau came to suork for the
City, there were 33 activities and they now offer lI5 diffeXent activities.
At ohe time, it was mostly sports and aihleti.cs, They have not"siighted
that'area but hav� exg�nded znto many other;areas. Th3s does not include :
the I3atural $esourc�&-llivisi.an.
Mr. Kitk stated Chat`he felt a ccxnmunity recreaCion program should'offer
aatfvities to a11 �ge �;�oups. They have tr.ied ,to accomplish this by
` having presch�ol prngrams and they`have a very �ctive seniar'c3,tizen
progr;im, one of Che;�bst scti�e in:the norr_�]iera subUrbs. lie thQUght the
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+�e�� ��at i�a�<��Y�fug suhuzbs e�iax�� ��ii�� '��-They are a£�e�t� btt = t
�t;�pr:`81$e>, "�y 3�isa do not vanC#to �a�� � �yutte from participat�on
�;�ave ad��� a s��: csf fees po�La�+ �� °, �ho feel �they c�not ��
t�pa�t��ttfte fe�.�+ ' � ;>, �, , _ � _
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�r� �irk. stated he �i��..�q.ehoald o�f�r sctfui#ies at different time�
p� yeu�,f� wo�rk and�t�7li��T;schedu3�s: �t -is difficult at tdm�s because
�-t�%a��i'-1�isi].�i.,��'e��ii-t£es. . ' -;�
d C�1e3+wo�Ck very closely w�t�:;t�e-F3fSA aud t1t� iIAF: He '`
a t'erm o;t t1ie.� $nard of H£xdectgxs for the FYSA. He fe�G '`
ou�stabdiag`leaders at th$s t3me �ito shake tris philosaphy,
lie�.�-wcltls3.ng tageCher_ a loC �,�ier: He stated .itts personal
ut s�8'fs thaE spoxts (I} should be enjoyable £or the
2'� "stia+cild ptovide sn o}ipoxtuttity for the partieipant to
a��e�s�,�ad (3}'shou�.d provide>the opportunity Co iearn
t the epv�t. Alowher� does he put aa-emphasis:-or stress- <ry
�aae-aot feel that is the objeetive of rhe program, aud there
w_i�t che-�Fi'SA-wfio share his vievs,
a he fe -sCit! a member of t}ie ESCSA .atul works closely with ;
etoxs. �He has met With� �,ai� the=;s�t directox's and has �old��� °?i
QrIsshpg he has oiganized fax April. 22< Zhe FYSA is ia favor
3ng C� reqnire Cheix coachas to-at�te�l`i He hopes this
z'e� :in a.series o# vrorkshops ta L��tm ;youth caachea . ;
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s�, �ts teez�ted to. �ntion adu#,t at]tYetics . He iel� khere soas
s�.-€or both the ccmpetit3ve prog,7Cam aad the fuw progxam where
e�q� f+p� €itxeess aad Ep_ jqst h8ve a gaod time; A, veL1- _
tfcru;g�ag�an6 should a£#et baDth,'` and: theq do it-:,when�ver � � � r
d1��urbi,&g aspect a6t�ut tit� ot�p.etitive psogram has been the
sportsmanship. Tbis has hagpeaed:-mainly becausa o£ the
af the �,eferees; �-they oae having a hard time,getting
re and rafEt�e because o£ iC. He �Eated this has to stop
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d- �� :i�r€�z wi��er he instituted a sport�manshiP �c3il.cy
pkspe� �8 ej�ted #rc+en a,gams, t}kat glayer "xs ineli$ible to
t,�e l�i�� �ecs�p�:i heJahe= Gcsz�a��s Mr. ��Kirk. When the pla�er ��
x KEtt��>;:�'ts�.;�,irk tells'that player'that they are trying
�Ppr ,,' ��.�.3� heJsh� fe ejected again,,.he/she'is�
e�t a�".'> ��e�t�:i>t1. Mr. ICi��-t�t�ted he is going xo carttinue
�Y a�,,, `. 3�,�;� �q ro ei��r ��= o£ tiie poor ;spe�tsman-
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t�e ,����tCeep tr'sek of Eheir os� scares attd jus�,'have fun, � �
�it� �`� ` foq��*ha11 �lea�ue fas� pears . ago. .It ssent ,
�� �,#�z� '` ` � ��n�Z�as�d �he z�bex of te�+�, � �t� ,st�x�acl �
�t8 qa ` �, �qs��ive £eed6�cls.<�'t�n this tyge of spsirt . �
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Mr. Kirk stated he had talked about luter-.mgency'cooperation in
wnrking w�th the HRF aztd FYSA. They aYsa work closely wfth the 44'er
Days.Committee'fn putt�,ng on the cou�uc�ity celebration and are working
with the eammun3tyt arCs arganization on the Frid:.ey Ethnic Festival.
He statec3 they ha�re-spt,up inter-agency cooperation with District 14
and 'have set up guide�.fAes as to w$o wi7:2 offer what programs in order
to avoid duplicaCi4n �n:d maximize the available �-esources. Ae felt that
was extremeZy;importa They have'wozked �ery closely with the Lions,
�aycees, American Leg�on, etc., in eo-spar.soring events during ihe year.
Mr. Kirk stated he fe?�t the�yrecreation Zeuders are the key to their
��� program in �the City, ' x��y {��k�e great caXe ���in sc�eenft�g ttiese applicants �
. and'offer staf€ reacti�,ug at.ihe beginning of all programs'so the leaders
� are aware of the Depatt�eat!s philoscphy, pfllicies, and gxocedures. They
keep Cabs on th2 leaders [h�pughout�the pro�;xam. Mr. Kirk stated thep .
feel very strortgly irF?eualuation at the end of the ro ram and t
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are`�ncouraged "tci dis�uss tkfeir eva}uatioue with Che sta£f. The leaders
also evaluate the act�vitiee and the staff support they i�ave received.
Mr. Kfrk stated he fei.0 the ercergy shorCage wa$ going to have a big
impact on corrmeunity r�creat#,on. IC will he a big plus for auy xecreatianai
program iu the fnture!., He �eels ehere are':�oing ro be-a Iot oP oppor-
tnnitiies for scheduli� pragrams an weekends threughout tiie year, �ecause
µ geo�Le will be tnavel;3_xTg le$s and wiil be l.00king for activities close
to home, He f�e1s ti#e,fami�g activitfes are going Lo make a comeback. �
People are going to �aliae,that reereation is one opportuafty to be
together and lie feels=;tnat family actfvities can he a real plus .or the
future.
Mr. Kirk staGect he faels. leisure time caf11 <incsease in the: future, AII
projections point to � shvrter work week and earlier retirement aqd that
wi.11 be a plus fox tt�� recreation pragram.
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Mr. Kirk stated t�at uuless there is a big change, he feels people will
be willing to spenfl more mo�tey on recreati=on and fie feels'commercial
venturas are gsaing ta;f2ourish.
h#r.,KiYk stated Chat titne seems to b�>, at such a pre:mium iu moet peaple's
lives that they haCe ta eo�it a lar�e bl�ck of time to an activity, So,
he'feels mini-pragrams have>:i potential i� the fl�tuxe.
Mr. Kirk stated he ttisiyght they are seeing,'nationally an increased
int�resC :.u.pe�„sonal healtl�.' He �hou�ht recreation programs will
coerdinate maX� with haalth. He felt the FridSey program has axpanded
, into Che area of hea€th ar.d Eitness ;�rograms and he thoughE.that will
' continue to esspa�d. '
Ms, Hughes �ifauked M�:, Kirk f.ot sharing his ph�losaphy with the Commission.
She stated thts has bRen a valuable series and"tras given the Co�issioners
a c3�ance tc� meer, and��et to tm ow ehe Parks, Recrestio¢, and:Natural
Resouree I�epaxtment ,�aff.
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�e attempting to get vse o#, Riverwood School and
�egotiatious riglst noca.' It is one area of the city
I<tn walk or bike to, so i# they get use o� thst
to s�ae kind o£ tranapt�:tation syatam £or Lhat
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t Wa��ck not this year. At the-r�9uest of ffeveral citizens,
Ln�,,to:start a handicapped g�8�t-ruud Program and are
#;�,i2`. ��e Is2ands a£ .Peace oa 'tfis��.
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i.t Fiouid be the Eourt$ seasomr£or the PITS (Playground
prvgram, a�d that will be traveling around to several
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eg�i��.`�g�onded by Ms. Mech, �o �3arov� the 1980 S�er
�,�g,y� ;��c�a a voice vote, a11 #oYei.ag aye, Chairpersan Hughes ;�
cta�.-�ia iana-:uars.�II�rtC�':#�'�•6d uuanimously. " .' .K
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:: Ycuiug stat�ct ha t� C�cerned about Che C,su�,cl�tion and appeasance of
s£ettc�g at' the �Dunes area across #rom the Frl.dley Sr. High Schaol.
� o� �.t, h8s- been `}cnoGked doFin aad he Was -assuming .the City would be
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A, Dfscussion - Possible i,eas8 with Anoka County
MOTTQN by Mr, Young, s�cande�1 by Mr. Y.ondrick, to continue;disc�ssion
on th� possibla lease'with Aiioka Got�nty at �nother meeting.
AD30URi�fENT'
�hai�person Hughes declar�d tne riarch 12, 19E0, 8arks & Recreatian Commissfon
meeting adjourned at k1:25 p,m, "
Itespectfully st bm3.tted, F '
Lyn e Saba
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F10USING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORiTY
MEETING
MARCH 13, 1980
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Russell Houck called the March 13, 1980, Housing &
Redevelopment Authority meeting to order at 7:36 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Russell Houck, Carolyn Svendsen, Elmars Prieditis,
Larry Co�rers (arrived at 8:00 p.m.)
Members Absent: Duane Prairie
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner . ,
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 7, 1980, SPECIAL MEETING HOUSING_& REDEVELOPMEN
MOTION by Mr. Prieditis, seconded by Ms. Svendsen, to approve the Feb. 7, 1980,
Special Meeting Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes as written. Upon
a voice vote, a11 voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Houck declared the motion
carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 21, 198� AOUSING & REBEVELOPMENT AUTHOItITY MIN[T'i'ES:
MOTION by Ms. Svendsen, seconded by Mr. Prieditis, to approve the Feb. 21, 1980,
Housing & Redevelopment AuChority minutes.
The•following change should be made to the Feb. 21, 1980, minutes; .On page 7,
paragraph 5, the motion was seconded by Mr. Prairie, not Mr. Prieditis.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON AOUCK DECLARED THE MINUtES
APPROVED AS AMENDED. .
1. CENTER CITY REDEVELOPMENT PRO.SECT:
A. Execut3ve D3rector's Report
Mr. Boardman stated that they met with Mark Haggerty of Joint Venture
Developers last Friday. JVD has hired a consultant to do some of
the marketing research, and they will be coming up with a decision
around July 1. At that time, the City will be looking at all the
financial.details, and by the HRA's first meeting in July, the
Authority will make the decision whether it is "go" or "no go" with
JVD, So, they are looking at Ju1y 1 as the date for going through
the first phase of working with the developer.
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B. Receive Letter from
erest
lmon and
Ms. Svendsen stated she would prefer to hold off receiving this
letter and discussing it until Mr. Coumers was present.
Mr. Boardman stated he would prefer that also as he would like the
City Attorney to l.00k at the letter.
MOTION by Ms. Svendsen, seconded by Mr. Prieditis, to defer the
receipt of letter from Smith, Juster, Feikema, Malmon and
Haskuitz until the next meeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, Vice-Chairperson Houck declared the motion carried unanimously.
C. Receive Letter from Jerry Remmen of IMI Re: Development Interest
Mr. Boardman stated that at the direction of the HRA, he and
Mr. Doyscher met with Jerry Aemmen and David Russ of IMI to discuss
any potential development by IMI. Mr. $oardman stated this was
primarily discussion, because they fe7.t, and it was brought up at
the meeting, that in order to start talking business, IMI would first
have to contact the owners o£ the Holly Center and the other property
across University Ave, to see what commitments can be made with them.
Until then, the City will be looking only at Phase I, and the City
prohably would not go ahead with Phase III until they had Phase I
going. So, IMI will be working with Fred Levy, the owner of Holly
Shopping Center, to see what arrangements can be made.
Mr. Boardman stated he had asked IMI to submit a letYer stating that
they were still interested in the development. This Letter was in
response to that request. INII has been informed that the City will
be happy to work with them as much as they can; however, they do
have restrictions. He did not think the HRA was in any position to
go in with condemnation on Phase III, and that is why it is so critical
for IMI to start negotiations on that property.
MOTION by Ms. Svendsen, seconded by Mr. Prieditis, to receive the
letter dated Mar. 3, 1980, from Mr. A. J. Remmen, President of IMI.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye., Vice-Chairperson Houck declared
the mation carried unanimously.
2. LARGE FAMILY HOUSING PROGRAM:
Mr, Boardman stated they have purchased the Parlin property at
6025 - 3rd St. N.E. The closing on that property was last Thursday,
and the City has issued a$15,000 relocation check to the Parlin's at
the closing of the Parlin's house in Blaine.
Mr. Boardman stated that on Wednesday, they closed on the Johnson
property at 5832 University Ave. N.E. On that property, there is a
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garage that seems to be a fairly substantial structure. The City is
looking at either selling the garage by bid and bringing the money
into the project or donating or selling the garage to the City Parks &
Recreation Department. He has talked a litCle abaut it with
Mr. Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director, and they would probably use
it for a warming house or something like that. Mr. Boardman stated he
would report what they decide they want to do with the garage at the
next meeting.
(Mr. Commers arrived at the meeting at 8:00 p.m. and took over the chair.)
3. OTHER BUSINESS;
Mr. Boardman stated the Authority members had a copy of the Check Register.
He stated this was the form of check register the Authority will be
receiving for all HRA checks. He stated that right now, the Authority
has $10,000 in its account. Checks have been made out to Anoka County for
ta�ces and to the City of Fridley for the first half of the special assess-
ments�totalling $3,045.17. When the check register comes before the
Authority, the Authority will be asked to approve the issuance of those
checks. At this time, he was asking the AuChority to approve this Check
Register.
MOTION by Mr. Aouck, seconded by Mr. Prieditis, to approve the disburse-
ments listed on the Check Register. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Chairperson Gommers declared the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Boardman stated he would have Mr. Brunsell come to the next meeting
to explain this better.
Ms. Svendsen asked how often Mr. ➢oyscher would be attending the HRA
meetings.
Mr. Boardman stated he would bring a copy of Mr. Doyscher's contract to
the next meeting for Che Authority members Co look at. He stated they
were looking at paying Mr. Doyscher $35/hr. up to $6,�00 for a year's
worth of service, so it would depend upon how much they caanted to use
Mr. Doyscher's services. They won't use him unless they need him for
consulting services. Later on when they get into negotiations with the
developers, it will be beneficial to have Mr. Doyscher at the meetings
and participating in the discussions.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Mr. Houck, seconded by Ms. Svendsen, to adjourn the meeting. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Co�ers declared the March 13, 1980,
Housing & Redevelopment Authority meeting adjourned at 8:25 p.m.
Respectfully s bmitted,
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Lyny�e Saba, Recording Secretary
t� SUBJHCT TO FINAI, APPROVAL"
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MEETING
MARCH 18, 1980
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{�tairperson Langenfeld called the March 18, 1980, Environmental Quality Co�u3ssion
meeting _ta order at 7:4Q.p.m. _
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2lembets_Present: 3im LBt�g�feld, Bruce Peterspn, Lee Ann Sporre, Connle Metcalf
t�lembera Atasent: Marvin Hora `
�thers Present:. Bi�ll Debfon, Associate.Planner �
Jon Erickson, new Co�ission member effective 4/1/80,
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�,y>y Mr, peterson, seconded by Ms. Sporre, to approve the February 19, 1480,
$ny3;roumeutal Quality Co�nission minutes as written. IIpon a voice�voEe;: a11
vating aye,, Chairperson,�.an$esafeld declared the motion carried upan,imousj.y.
APFRQVAL OF. AGENDA: ,
The following itQm Was add�.to the agenda: .
�"Earth Shelter �? - Seminar° - Item A under "Other Business"
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Petersony to approve the agenda wiCh
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'Air „ Langenfeld wek��d 1�r. Erickson and introdnced him to the Cammissian
snevdae=s . ,:
Mr.`8riekson stated he has always been interested in the enviranment. Wh�n
he wae in law school, he �aas a l�w clerk for tl�e Minnesota Pollution Contro].
A��g,ey for.over a,year. He'now wox'ks for Anoka County as an Assistant County
ltttm�cney.'` He is a member-of the National Sierra Club and o"ther organi.zaCions
iike that.
2. ', RECEIS!E NORTHERN STATES POWER .COMPANY POWE12 P[.ANT Pt.ANS:
�$pT'�pN bp Mr. PeCerson,seconded by Ms. Metcalf, to receive the NSP`Power Plant
.F�ans. Upon a voice vote, all voting aqe, Chairperson Langenfeld declared the
mbCion:carxied unanimously.
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Mr. LangenFeld stated it was hia feeling that the Commiss3on did not have to
be concerned at this pbint, aitd 1� definitely felt the possible Fridley location
was much too small.
Ma. Sporre stated that nort�aliy uiunicipalities are nat notified when the
cettificate of need is est�isiished. She asked Mr. Dehlon if he ww2d requeat
that the City ot Fridley be notified.
Mr. Deblon stated he would.
Mr. Langenfe2d stated tha£ when T�SP chooses the sites and alternate sites, then
the Commission should be coacerned.
Ms. Metcalf stated she feit the time was now to oppose it or say they were for
it.: It was just like the 4noka County A�irport, if they opposed a power plant
in Fridley, they should say so nuw.
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Mr. Langernfeld stated that if the Commission wished to discuss the information,
they were'€ree to do so. ,
Mr. Peteraon stated he knew the Goum�iasion me¢:bers were all concerned, and he
felt it would be a wise idea for the Coummission to be put on the mailing list
to receive future newsletr�ers en the pro,�ect.
Mr, Deblon ststed he would put tfie Coumiission on xhat mailing list to receive
future information.
MPTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded bq Ms. Metca2f, to table diacussion on the
NSP Power Plant Sitings until there is turther determination on those sites.
Upon a voice vote, a7.1.vQtiag aye, Chairperson Langenfeld declared the motion
carried unaaimously.
Ms. Metsalf stated she was impressed witU the information received frc�n ivSP.
It was an excellent search for puulic input.
3. CON'EINUED: ANO[Clt COUNTY AIRPbRT
Mr. Deblon stated there has been two Task Force meetings since �he last
Co�ission meeting. He steCed there was also a meeting scheduled for Friday,
March 22, at 7:00 p.n. at 3t. Tisothy's Catholic Church in Blaine. The guest
speaker at that meeting will be:A1 Perez from the Noise Sectian of the MPCA.
Mr. Deblon stated he att�ndzd the Task Force meeting on February 21 and would
give a summary of that mpet:ing.
Mr. Dehlon stated that t1�e Task Force had already eliminated #ive o£ the ten
alternatives. The aZteriiatives:remaining under the Minor Role are: "Parallel
N-S runways north oY. the,;existing runway," and "Para11e1 E-W runways, crosswind
runway north of existing xunway". The alternatives xemaining under the
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fnt�rmediate Role are; "Fa�a31e1 N-5 runways nartti a€ existing runway,"" aAd
'�a�,��i�el NG1=SE r�nwaYs". Aetua�„ly, the last alternative, !'Parallel NW=SE '
r�it##3a3ts" was a prnblem in inclement meather conditions becauae of the Shoreview
Tocaers -and wes'therefore noC a feasible altnerative.
�,`Aehton stated%that the alternative under xhe M3nor Role, "Existing Configura-
t#oti;' was eliminated because TRA claimed they were not hired to Iook at that.
TRA clafined xhey were hired to perform this planning design for either a minor
xa2e ar an intermediate role. Mr. Deblon stated the Task Force had a ve=y �
legitiaiate complaint in stating thep wanted tq laiuc� about the existi:ng configura-
tion, sucR as noise levels, existing flights,;etc., so they could compare it to �
the other alternatives. �
Mr, Deblan stated the TRA is having some probl�s proceeding with their
p^��eentat3on. In the past, they ha�e been hired with Che task force already
eStablished. This time they had to set up the task #oxce. TRA stated they
hed three rQles: (1) organizer, (2) administrator, and (3) technical expertise.
Theq feel�they would rather do more in the t�chnical area where they are
strnnger, and Chey would hope that the Task Force would vork with them in
organization and:�dministration. �
Mr.:Deblon stated the Task Force elected a chairperson, 3im Gedney of the
$j.ai;ne City Cauncil.
�, �eblu¢i stated they talked about•airport termis�alogy--minor,°intermediate,
apd major: Minor would be synonomous with genexal utility; intermediate would
be synosicrmous with basic transport; and major would be synonomous with air carrier.
jsr, Deblon staCed the dif£erence between classi£ications is not khe length of
runways, but the srefght of airplanea and the thicicness of the runways; For,
iastance,for a minor airport (general utility), the maximum poundage is 12,500 lbs. I
Fo� an 4n€ermediate airport (base transpoxt)•, the maximum poundage.is 60,000 lbs. �
For a major sirport (air carrier),.the maximum poundage is 120,000 lbs. :
M.s. Sporre stated those were operational definitions. The Metropolitan Council's
c�as;sification is by length of runway. The enabling decision by the Metro-
pol3tan Council to extend the length of runway doesn�t prevent the Metropolitan
pirports Co�ission (AiAC) from continuing to strengthen the runways to accommodate
the weight 'oE larger planes.
pitc. Deblon stated that since 1959, the Anoka'Coun�y Airport has been steadily
used, and MAC received_permission from the Federa2 Aviation Associat3on (FAA)
to resuzf8ce;and, becauae of that reinforcement,-the weight capaEity of the
�p�YF;ays was upped to 2�,0(?O Tbs. Anoka County Airport is classified as a minor
8#`rp��, but the aixpott_;is_actually functioning right now as an intermediate
airp�ort because of'the sma11 jet traffic.- Mr. Debkon stated the Task Force
y�a�ed to knaw wlien the declsion was made to do that overlay and seal coating,
�qd he did not think MAG would be able to get away with doing [hat anymore.
po�� the MinneBOta State Legislature has seC up a planning process which requires
s syst�s plan, a master plan, and an operations�plan before any,airpozt develop-
s�nL. Ae £elt this piocess was a good planning mechanism that the State Legis-
iatuxe has passed in response to uncontrolled development_ Any vioiation of the
, �ppted pla�t would then require a riew E.I,S.,Systems Plan, and,Operations Plan.
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Mr. DeUlon stated. thae Hugh Parry, Noise Analyst for the Parry Co., consultant
for noise, described �@cih�ls(d6j, sonnd �r.essures, and the-LDN comparative methodology
- Ms. Sporre stated thae the �DA measure was an on�rage and didn't even
apply to Minnesota Szate Noise Standards. Ae �hould haya been relating it
to the Minnesota State 5tatulards. She �tated there seemed`to he a lot of
concern from the Task Force about using t?�e L�:v (level of day/night noise)`that ,
Mr. Parry wanted to use and-noC rtaking re€erenr.e to the Minnesota State Noise
� Standards . That is wuy rtie Tas�:: Force caec�bers scheduled a meeting on Mar. 21
to hear from the Noise AbaLement Divisien ef the I�IPGA.
Ms; Sporre sYated that en.Satur3ay, April 12, at Northtowm Shopping Ceater, :
there are supposed to be derailed maps ava3labie and representatives from MAC
present to discuss the Annica County Airport.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that, basect on this i¢formation, what can the Environmental
Quality Commission do? _
Ms. Sporre stated one of the roles the Co:.wiissi.on has is recommending to
., City Council. Another role spelled ouC in the Commi.ssion's goals-and objective3
is to stimulate crnnmunity'r�aderstanding of envir.onmer.tal issues, snd it is up
to the Commission members?CO icnow this information and pass this infoxmation on.
MOTION by Mr. Peteraon, seconded by Ms. Snorre, to continue discussion on the
Anolsa Counky Airport at a�.other meeting. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye,
Chairpersoxt Langenield de;:2sred the motic,a carried unaa3mously.
Mr. Deblon stated that there was- extensivz infozmation on the Anoka County Airport
: on file at the Anoka County LibraYy for those interested.
4. CC13dTINUED; MiNNE80TA:NUZSE '?OLLUTIOid F.E�Ui.ATION NPC-5
Mr. Langenfeld stated that at ths March 5 Planning Co�mission meetirig, ehe
Flanning Commission memhers.agreed to asY. A1 Ferez or Daryl Korpela ta come
before the Planning Commission to discuss NPC-5
Mr.'Petersor, stafe& that Che Couanission wz�ote a letter to the MPCA supporting
NPC-S and making some recommendaeions regarding NPC-S. He wondered if
'Mr. De�lon had gotten ang'feedbacic from T4r. Perez or Mr. Korpela regarding
these recommendations and'what t12e staCus was.
, Mr. Dehlon stated the MP�2 3oard will be meei-ing on Tues., Mar. 25, and that
is when Che decision will`be made or. NPC-5, �Ie'stated some of the feelings
from`the Planning Cccr�ission was that tt was o�ie governmental agency eontrolling
another governmental agency and.why wexer:'t tha State Standards enforced right
now? Mr. Deblon stated L-haT. Mr. Perez tol.d hici that when the MPCA attacks a
, • - major problem like a maj�ir �nternat-ional airp�rt or highway, they are going Yo
use regulation and prever,tion cactics. T�irst of all, when a problem alz•eady
exists, they are going to'tr.y arid use perinfts and thxt t}*�pe of regulation to
get the noise under contral,.and tt makes a.Ftronger court case. That is why
they need the permit.,con�.ol gre�cess. .
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3&9tallativn Permit ►tas ztot mush different than I1'[aft ZI. .
tie,=Sporre:stated that,�he`,.thought that what Che Go¢imfssion is really saying
is t#�at the MPCA shoukd be`t2oi.ng'something. Avfaticm is certainly the kind
:� i�§i9�e ti�ey shou�d,be addressing.
�.,iPeterson stated Mr. Langenfeld should express to`th� Planning Commission
��i�,Snvironmental Quality Commission's support of PPG-S and recoIIm�end tkat
the Planning Co�missibn also.support it. '
i�T�ON by'Ms. Sporre, seeonded by Mr. Peterson, to continue discussion on the
Anoka Cnunty Airport at another meeting. Upon a voiee vote, all voting sye,
Chairpe•rson Langenfeld declared`the motion carried unanimously.
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Mr. Deblo'u stated that secording to the schedule,. on January Sth, MnDOT and
the Fedetal Highway Administration were to review the technical xeports; and
re.�iew and'revisiotts are being made to the E.I.S, Everything is being done
it�-hause right now, and,that is why nothing has heen going on.
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Ma.;S$ort'e stated it was her understanding that Fridley was to be involved
in-Yhe itifoxmation process of the North Management°Committee and that Fridley
was.to receive copies of the technical reports. If these reports have gone
from the North Management:Gommittee to the Sta`te or other agencies, then these
repa'�te_have been rec�ived and reviewed by tke No'"rth Management Covmiittee.
That led her to believe that Fridley had never received the,technical reports.
29s, Deblon stated he would check into why Fridley has noE rec�ived all the
tee3:�icai.reports, Every municipality fn the North Management Committee should
� ha�e, received copies.
4� by Ms. Spozre, seconded bg Mr. Peteraon, to continue discussion on
a,.Xfl orth Grosstown until another neeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting
��re;, Chairperson Langeqfeld declared the motion carried unanimously.
b. OTHEfl BUSI1VE55:
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A.. �arth Shelter �2 - Seminar
Mr. Langenfeld stated this was a semivar to be held April 9=11 at
the Leamington RoEel sponsored bg tlte Un3erground Space Center
of the UniuersiCy of Minnesnta.
Ms. Sporre stated she feZC this seminar was an exceTlent follow-up'
to the underground seminar held last year and would recovmiend that
someone from this Commission or Staff atCend these sessions.
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Mr. Peterson stated that>exhibits were open to the public on
Wednesday and Thursday evenings from 7:00-9:t70 with a$5 aduissiom
�ee, Ae stated he would like to aCtend one of those evenings and
would gather 3.nformation far the Covmission.
MO'CTON bv;Ms.'Spo�ze, seconded by Ms. Metealf, to recommend that
the $S admission �ee be approved so that Mr. Peterson can attend
an evening exhibit. Upor. a voice vote, all voting aye,
Chairperson Langeiifeid declared the motion carried unanimausly.
Ms. Sporre stated"that the Energy Commission might be interested
in sending a repsesnntatiue to tnis seminar and she would suggest
that someo:ie fromithat counnission attend.
Ms. Metca�f suggested that this'infornation be published in the
Fridley Sun so that the �ublic is aware of the evenir.g exhibits.
B. Recognition
Ms, Metcalf expressed her appreeiation to the Coamission for all
their helg and fox their supporK of the Recycling Center. She
hoped that supporz: would continue. She statNd she has enjoyed
being on the Co�tissirnz "aizd has 1?arned a lot. She'-realized that
hy.n�t being.on a:`commissi6n, slie will he missing a lot of facts
and iiiformation a£'what 1s going on 3.n the coam�unity which is a
big advantage to k�eing on a couwissior..
Mr. LangenfeLd tkan'ted Ms. MetcaZ# for her time and service to
the Co�ission axu� wished her good 2ack.
Ms. Sporre thankeil 3•Is. Metcalf for all her help and for making the
Recycling Center d zeality. Ms. Metcalf deserved the credit for rhat.
AAJOtTI2NMEAlT :
MOTION by Ms. Sporre, secor.ded hy Mr. Petersori, to adjaurn the meeting. Upon
a voice vote, all yoLing,ay2, Qtiairpesson Lannenfela declared the Marcfi 1S, I980,
Enviroitmental Quality Cowmzssion ¢+eeting adjourized at 9:25 p.m.
Respectiully suU itted,
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 25, 1980
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Gabel called the March 25, 1980, Appeals Commission meeting
to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CA�.L:
Members Present: Ms. Gabel, Mr. Barna, Mr. Plemel, Mr. Kemper
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Ms. Schnabel
Darrel Glark, Chief Building Official
Richard N. Carlson, 615 Cheryl St. N.E.
APPROVAL OF MARCH 11, 1980, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Ms. Barna, seconded by Mr. Kemper, to approve the March 11, 1980,
Appeals Coum�ission minutes as written. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-
Chairperson Gabel declared the motion carried unanimously.
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fload plain approved December 17, 1979.)
615 Cheryl St. N.E., Fridley, Mn. 55432.)
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(Request by Richard N. Carlson,
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Plemel, to open the public hearing. Upon
a voi.ce vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairpezson Gabel declared the public hearing
open at 7:37 p.�.
Ms. Gabel read the administrative staff report;
ADr?INISIRATIVF. STAPF REPORT
615 Cheryl Street N.E.
p, PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIP.EM.EPIT:
Section 205.053, 43, requires a minimum side yazd set6ack of 10 feet
fox living area.
Public purpose served by this requiremenC is to maintain a minimum of
20 feet between living areas in adjacent st=uctures and 15 feet between
garage and living area in adjacent strucCUres, to reduce exposure Co
conflagration of fire. It also allows for sesthetically pleasing open
areas around residential structures.
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B. STATED HARDSHIP;
Verification survey necessary to obtain building permit for this addition
shows that the house is sitting crooked on the lot. The plans had to be
drawn up to meet construction in the flood plain, and wexe approved by
the Planning Commission and City Council and the Department of Natural
Resources. It would be costly and time consuming to change the plans now
becaase of a 2 foot variance.
C. ADMINTSTRATIVE STAFF REVIF[d:
The petitioner's house is presently 32.51 feet from their east lot line.
The proposed addition of 25 feet would result in a side yard setback of
7.31 feet. The neighbor's home to the east is 25 feet from the common
lot line. If the variance was approved this would leave better than 32
feet between living areas. Since more than 20 feet will exist between
Lhe structures, the staff �ve no stipulations to suggest if this request
is approved.
Ms. Gabel asked Mr. Carlson if he had talked to his neighbors about this
addition.
Mr. Carlson stated he has talked with his neighbors and many of them offered
to come to the meeting to show their support.
MOTION by Mr. Kemper,' seconded by Mr. Barna, to close the public hearing.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Gabel declared the public
hearing closed at 7:45 p.m.
Mr. Barna stated that the addition to the house will not disrupt the visual
aspects of the neighborhood since there are a variety of different housing
styles within a four-block area of thi.s house. The split-entry aspect will
probably look very nice.
Ms. Gabel stated that the intent of the code is more than well met and she
would not have any problem with it.
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Kemper, to approve variance request
pursuant to Chapter 205 of the Fridley City Code, to reduce the side yard
setback nn the living side nf the house frum the required 10 feet to 7.31
feet, to allow the construction of a 25 foot by 26 foot addition to an existing
house located on Lots, 5, 6, and �, Block W, Riverview Heights, the same being
615 Cheryl Street N.E. (Request by Richard N. Carlson, 615 Cheryl St. N.E.,
Fridley, Mn, 55432).
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
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Ms. Gabel told Mr. Carlson that since this was in an �-1 zone he was free
to obtain a building permit.
ADJOURNML+NT:
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Kemper, to adjourn the meeting. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Gahel declared the Mar. 25, 1980,
Appeals Goum�ission meeting adjourned at 7:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary
E88RGY CQ+B�IISS7�
MEETING
MARCH 27, 1484
G$ilL. TQ 0$DER:
�i�', �.vasdmaa, City Planner, callesl the March 27, 19$6,+ Snergy Cou�ission
stest#.�g;to order at 7t43 p.m.
8t�t CALL•
Membet's Prea�at: Dan WaLi, Jeny Cichosz, Bi11 Wharton, Dean Saba
Membera Absent: Giles MeConville'
Ott�trs Presen�: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Mary Gayan, Human Services Asaistatet E� Hwa3ng Special3st
OB.f#�iI�A1'IONAI. DISCiJ55i00�dd:
'Mr. $oaxdman introduced himself as the Planner for the City of Fridiey, He
e�rylained'that all the co�issions under the Planning Cou�issian are [he
respoa►aibility of the Planning ataff as far as staffing, scheduling, and
secreCarial help. The Planning staff dces not necesssrily have the expertise
wiEhin the fiej:d af each cossmisaion area, but they �.11 provide as much
ass3atanee ae possihle for ihe operation of the co�i.ssion.
Mr. Boardman stated Chat sane staff inembers are responaible for 2 or 3
ccio-�i.saions. He introdueed Mary Cayan, Housing Specialist and Human Services
AssisC�, Hho will be the s[aff represenCative to the Energg Co�i&sfon.
�R€-staCed::that she is also the staff representative Co the Human Resources
v.�x�,......
Mr. 8cardman stated that he shaild explain the arganiastion of the co�iasiva
sy8�,g�. �e etated that esch of the cammias3ons'is a member c�misaiam of the
P7:aa�iTtg Gomnission. The chairperson of each of the �mber commissions is a
^+�isfg member on.the Ptazining Coumission and attends a1Z Planning C�misaion
ea�ett#tgs: fihis should be taken into consideration when Che Energy Co�s£ssion
vntea on a chaizQeraon. The Planning Commisaion holds meetings twice a month
oa the Wedrtesdays following the City CouaML meeLinga; The City Gauncil meets
rnt the lat aud 3sd Mondaya of each month; therefor�, the Planaing Commiseim
meete- 0n the Wednesdays fnllowLag the lat anc3 3rd Moadays.
I+Ii'. Baaxdman atated that-at thfs time the finergy-Cawmisaion should aelect a
chafrperson and a vice-chairperaon. He stated the duty of the vice-chairperson
fa'ta reside over the cammiseion meetings 3n the absence of the chairperson
aud also to sfC iu on the Planning Commiasion meetings 3a the absence of the
chaizperson.
EHERGY COS^AZLSSION t�ETIIdG. 'MARGti 27 1980 PAGE 2
MOTIDN by Mr. Saba, seeonded by Mr. Cichosz, to nominate Bill Wharton for
Chairper&on of the Et�ergy Cwnmission. Being no other nominations, Che vote
was aast unanimously £or Bi11 Wharton as Chafrperson of zhe Eaezgy Commission.
MOTION by Mr. Wa11, secanded by Mr. C4chosz, to nominate Dean Saba for Vice-
Chairperaon of the Snerg,y Commis�ion. Beitsg no ather nominations, the vote
was casE unanimouBlq €or Desn Saba as Vi.ce-Chairpersan af the Energp Com�ission,
Mr. Boardman explatned the funotians of the other £ive member commissions,
Parks & ltecreation Camm�ss3on� Auman Resources Cowroie�ion, Gommunity Development
C�ission, Envfxonmentsl'Qaality Commisaion, and Appeals Gommiesforc. He .
atated that Dick Haxris� Chairperson of the �iann3;ng C�nission, was an appointed
member and was nqt a member of any of the member cz�mmissions.
Mr. Boardman stated that Ordittance No. 7U5 was the ordinance which established
and seC the purQase and`seppe for the Energy;Co�#ssion. He read Che "Purpose"
and "Scope"_ Iie stated really fihe purpose of the zo�eissfon is to i.nitiate
recou��ndatfona for implemeatstion or in;�iate action and snbmit that action
to the Cfty Council, who has to make the final decisicm.
Mr. Wharton stated thaC,'aC Chis time, the ;Co.mmission should select a meeting
date.
The Couanission chose Che £ourCh Tueaday of each month as their regulax meeti
date. The next meeting ss31°l be April 22 at 7;30 p,m.
Mr. Cichosz asked if the Commfssion was to initiate ideas and issues or were
issues gbing to be braaght tq the Gou�ission froom staff or both?
Mr. Boaxdman steted iE wfll be a combination of both. Sometimes staff wf1l
bring items to the c�ission. Planning Ct�ission map get an item and send
LhaL down to the Energq"Com¢iission. (3ne it�m that will be sent to [he Esiergy
Commission is the 1VSP Yower Plant siting materisi and all further information
on Ehat will automaticaily be channeled to the Lnergy Commisaion. Re stated
sane things will come d�rectiy from City Councii'. Xe staCed that the Commissi
may have ideas on what tq da as far as organizing energy between 6usiness
Ieaders or how`to imp�;eman� some of the policies recommended bp the Energy
Project Co�mittee. ,�,
Mr. $oardman stated the Cooanission also has the authoritq to`estab2i�h a
projeet commSttee. The Energy Project Cammittee was such a project committee
under xhe P1a�ning Commissfon before becoming a fuYl eammiss{on. Sometimes
1-2 members of the CcSmdiissinn wiL1 form a project counnittee to do a study; ar
this Commission can appoint members from the coumanity to a project committee,
give that project ca�mfECee a certaiu duty, and the projec[ committee will
come back to the Cou�ntssion with a recoamsendation: .
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Mr. Whartott asked if it was w3thin the Gommissiom's scope to ho2d public lxearinga?
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22�.,�ic>ardma� atated t'!�^y.:tzy to hold aFl pe�blic,#�a�fngs at the Plaaning
�amn9�saiaa and City Co�trtci:l levels and try to avofd public hearings at the
- �sau�istzlan tevel.`
� Mr. iJharton uaada the suggestion that maybe one of the Co�nission members
% sFwuld be a liaisah beiaSeen the Minnesota State Energy Agency and other state
a�eaeie8 and the Ccmmis�fon in order that the:Co�iesion be kept informed
1 at�d'&naw what is happenin� in other areas.
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a�f: Baardman ata[ed he thaught it was a very good idea £or this Cammission
to be,aware of everything that is happening,
Mt. WharCOa asked if the Energy Comimiasian tead a budget.
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� I§�r; ]1t�a�tdwan stated there are budgets for staff and xeroxing, etc., plus a
bF�;�eG £or meeCings and conferences. If a member or members of the &nergy
Lb�#Baiart wish to attend a meeting or conference, a motion is required to
Yecammend' approval to spend the money to send that member or membets.
�, 2�, klltareon atated that if Ehe Energq C�ission sapuld decide to set up a
��8p1.ay or something of that nature, where wouYd the money come for that?
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Mr. Bnardman stated that in a siLuation like that, [he Energy Coam�ission wauld.
f �er�d a recmumendation to City Council, through Planning Coumisaion, and the
C#��y Couitcil can approve the funds to put together �uch a display.
�- Ff�; �tarton stated thaC Che wembers of the Energy Froject Comnittee basitally
de'�elopreci the charge o£ what this Canmission is going to be responsible for
' do-�ug. Until that proposed eaergy policy is acted on by the City Cauncil,
�� there isn't too much the Bnergy Co�ission can do from the standpoint of
° orga[�iaing.
� ��it`:'3#o,�td�an sCated thia meeting was primarily a' meeting to establish the
��y�#��s;and have an iafnrmal dfscussion on the organization of the C�ission.
� ��:-it�aCed �C may take a couple of months fox the Commission to get a feel of
;" '-'��h direction.they want to go and what things they can do�as.a com�issian.
'� $es:�hrfught it would be a good idea to have someone from the Minnesota Energy
� A�tacq at the next meetiug to inform the Co�isaion o£ what other camnwnities
rare doiag and find out what the Minnesota Energy Agencies^Eeels is hagpening
� in•Ch� fieid of energy. He stated there are things the Co�ission is going
tb.wactt- ta review such as policies and ordinancea, There are certain ardinaaces`
� `,4�krfe2i may affect energy and energy-related 3tems.
;; � 33r; Bnardmaa stated he would also like ta have someone from Northern StaCes
°Y1ei�r came and talk to the Comm�issiozs membg�s.
Mr: Walt`etated he was curious aboue the Fridley business cammunity. Did the
Fr#dley Chamber of Commerce have good business repre$entation thaC they could
tRp £or=energy managers:or that kind of thing2
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M�. Boardman stated he Chpught most o£ the businesses within the Cfty be2onged
to the Chamber of Gommerce.
Mt. Wharton stated he woftdered-if`[he Chamber of Co¢�erce might evea have an
energy committee.
Mr. $oardman stated he'did not know. He sCated he megts with the Chamber of
Commezce Board of Direetc�rs and wwld bring this up at the next Board of
Directors' meeting.
Mr. Wall stated it would be a beginning if Chey could just get each company
to identify who iCs energy person 3s, whether.active or not.
Mr. Wharton stated that quite pften, there is an isdustry on one aide o£ the
sEreet that has blast furnaeea'going and across the street there is an indusGxy
with warehouses that need heating: The two industries could really help each
other if they were iatsoduced. He stated this was an area thab the Cottm�ission
nr a:memher of the Co�ni�sion>might want to pu�csue, maybe through the Chamber
of Coamcerce.
Mr, Wall stated the Couanission-may want to try to form a project committee
vut of ittdustry to telt tke Commission what<ittdustry can and shauld do for
Chemaelvea.
Mr. Boardman stated that at the next Chamber of Co¢merce Board of Directors' �
meeting, he would infozm Chem that the Enexgy Commission is now operating.
He would find ou� if these is an energy committee or get names of energy
` representatives. If Ehere is an energy committee, he wilk try to get that `
conmr;ttee togeth€r with �he Energy Co�rission £or a discussion.
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Mr. Wharton requeseed that each of the Co�ission members get a copy of tht
Energy P�aject Coumittee!s "Proposed City of Fridley Energy Policy° before
the next meeting:
Mr. Wltartoa stated that the Sixth Annual Minnesota Energy Conference is
schedulefl for April 8-9 at the Radisson South Hotel.
AI?J4URNMENT •
MOTEON by Mr`. Saba, seeonded by Mr. Wa11, to adjourn the meeting. Upon a voiee
vote, alI voting aye, Chairperson Wharton declared the March 27, 1980,
>Energy:Coam�ission meeting adjourned at 8:45 p;m.
Res ectfully au itted,
L e Saba `
Recording Secretarq
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 9, 1980
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Harris called the April 9, 1980, Planning Commission meeting to
order at 7:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenfels, Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Langenfeld,
Ms, Modig (for Mr. Oquist), Ms. Hughes, Mr. Saba (for
Mr. Wharton of the Energy Commission)
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Bill Deblon, Associate Planner
A1 Perez, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency
Mary Cayan, Human Services Assistant & Housing Specialist
Mr. Harris stated he would like to welcome Mr. Saba as Vice-Chairperson of the
Energy Commission and he would like to welcome the Energy Cou�ission to the
Planning Commission.
APPROVAL OF MARCH 19, 1980, PLANNING CODII�IISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to approve the March 19, 1980,
Planning Commission minutes as written. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Chairman Harris declared the motion carried unanimously.
1. PRESENTATION OF NPGS (AIRPORT INSTALLATION NOISE PERMIT) BY AL PEREZ,
MINNESOTA POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCY;
Mr. Deblon introduced Mr. A1 Perez of the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency
(MPCA) and stated that Mr. Perez would give some background on the MPCA, a
history of the NPC-5 permit, and answer questions.
Mr. Perez stated that the history of the permit was pretty 1ong. The MPCA
has 6een working on noise since the end of 1973. The first thing they felt
had to be done was adopt noise standards, a definition of how much noise is
too much noise. They did that in 1974. Since that time, their main priority
has been on airports and highways. They feel the other noise problems, such
as loud cars, motorcycles, barking dogs, and other community noise is going
to have to be handled at the local level. The MPCA does not have the staff or
the time. So, their main concern has been narrowed to airports and highways,
and mose of their efforts are going that direction besides helping local
communities start noise programs.
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Mr. Perez stated their work with the airports started in 1974 with the adoption
of the noise standards. They started monitoring Twin Cities International
Airport to determine if their proposed standards at that time actually reflected
what people were telling them. They very quickly found it was very difficult
and frustrating to monitor an airport of that size. They realized that if they
were going to define the problem around the airport, they had to do more moni-
toring and needed new equipment. The found new equipment was going to cost
a half million dollars so they designed some new equipment that was built by
a local electronics technician. They paid $200/unit and bought 15 units.
After announcing this to the public, they soon had 400 families who wanted to
do momitoring for the MPCA.
Mr. Perez stated that with families doing the monitoring, they were able to
spend more time around the airport and discovered that Northwest Airlines was
using a unique take-off procedure. Nobody believed that, but it is now the
procedure being used throughout the country. They fwnd out for sure that the
main problem caused by an airport was not so much that the aircrafts are noisy,
but it was the management of the airport. Since the impact of the Northwest
aircrafts was dramatically less than othex airlines, it occurred to them that
airport noise could be controlled.
Mr. Perez stated that, from that standpoint, they began to think about a strategy.
So,far, everything they have accomplished at the airport is as the result of
conveying knowledge to people who can make a difference. They are working
with everyone concerned, including Metropolitan Council and other agencies.
It has become obvious to them after six years Chat it is an age where people
won't do things out of just good will. Unless the MPCA lays down a very strict
process, they are not going to solve the noise problem in Minnesota. He did
not mean only Twin Cities International, but also other airports in Minnesota.
Mr. Perez stated that people are being hurt by noise. The effects of noise on
people cause high blood pressure, birth defects, psychiatric problems from loss
of sleep, and they are learning more and more. But, people seem to treat
noise as a nuisance and either get used to it or m we. It would be very
difficult for the people around Twin Cities International to move. There are
approximately 150,000 people and 50,000 homes, so this problem has to be taken
seriously.
Mr. Perez stated that after a long struggle and dealing with a11 kinds of
agencies, they have decided the best way to go is through a permit process.
The permit process not only deals with the existing problem, but hopefully
wi11 prevent problems from developing. They started looking at what shape this
permit should take and the first approach was both an operational and installa-
tion permit. They offered the first few drafts for co�ents from a panel of
the Agency. This panel is made up of airport, operators, pilots, and citizens.
After the input, they found everything they were proposing was illegal. So,
they decided to go one step further,streamline the process, clarify the language,
and make a permit that wouldn't be challenged on any basis. When you deal
with only the operations of an airport, you deal with the Federal Government,
and it seems like anytime there is a hint that the F.A.A, might have control,
the MPCA loses control at the local level. One thing they do have control
over is the development of an airport as it is pretty much a local, state
decision. In order to avoid possible conflicts in court, they threw out the
operational part and kept only the installation part.
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Ms. Schnabel stated that maybe that is where the concern is. That is being
assumed, but maybe because there is nothing in writing that says, for example:
"If the permittee fails to meet the specifications as established within this
document, the Agency has the authority to close an airport down or establish
fines, etc." She stated that maybe that should be written into the document.
There is nothing in the permit that says what the next course of action is
after construction or modification is completed, and the airport has failed
to meet the specifications.
Mr. Perez agreed that it was something that should be written in to make it
more clear, but in reality any airport that violates these regulations is
subject to civil or criminal penalties.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that the reason all this was taking place was because
of the Environmental Quality Commission's concern about possible expansion at
Anoka County Airport. As they were going through this, they wondered if there
was some way of bringing this to the attention of the proper legislative people
to stop this kind of expansion. At that time, they did not know if a permit
process did or did not exist, so they took it upon themselves to implement a
process or see if one existed in order to stop any kind of piece-by-piece
expansion.
Mr. Langenfeld read a letter dated Dec. 19, 1979, which was addressed to
Terry Hoffman, Executive Director of the MPCA. This letter was written by
Bill Deblon on behalf of the EQC. In this letter, the Environmental Quality
Co�ission recommended that the MPCA adopt a regulation such as NPC-5, Draft II,
calling for control of noise pollution at airports. The Commission also
reco�ended that enforcement provisions and criteria for permit revocation be
included in the regulation. Mr. Langenfeld stated these recommendations were
from a motion made by the Commission at that time.
Mr. Langenfeld referred to NPC-5, page 3, item 2, Permit Application, stating
that the National Environmental Policy Act could be a form of enforcement.
Also, the fact that a noise study has to be conducted was another means of
control.
Mr. Perez stated that it was his opinion that many things can be done and
this permit is the way it can be done. With noise, there are no federal
standards. Congress said the main responsibility to control noise rests with
state and local governments. He agreed with Ms. Schnabel that it wouldn't hurt
to add more enforcement language, but if the MPCA fails to enforce the permit,
it is up to local government, not only to enforce, but local government has
the obligation by law to enforce it. If they get tangled at the state level,
he hoped the local governments would not hesitate to enforce it.
Mr. Harris stated that if the MPCA would issue a permit to Anoka County Airport,
for example, for expansion of their facilities, and for some reason or another,
the airport does not follow the procedures and are in clear violation, did
Mr. Perez think the MPCA could shut the airport down? That is what it boils
down to, because action is what counts. The only way to get the airport to
comply is by shutting it down.
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Mr. Perez stated that Mr. Harris was right, but he had no answer for that
question. Legally, it can be done, but it boils down to the question: Is
government willing to do this? It is a policy decision that has to be made
by the Attorney General.
Mr. Harris asked that if the MPCA goes with the permit process, the question
is: How is it going to be enforced?
Mr. Perez stated the answer was, civil or criminal. The Legislature has given
the MPCA tremendous authority. The question is whether they are going to be
able to exercise that authority, and that answer can come only from the
Governor.
Mr. Harris stated he would like to express his individual concern about Anoka
County Airport. He stated that Twin Cities InternaCional is obviously more
suited for commercial-type passenger operation than is Anoka County. It seemed
to him that the logical thing would be to move air freight and that type of
operation into Anoka County and leave Twin Cities International to the large
commercial jets. So, in 2-3 years it would be possible to land 727's at Anoka
County Airport, because 727's are used for air freight. That could make Anoka
County Airport a very busy airport as air freight is a big thing. If there
is a permit process, but there are no provisions to make that permit strict,
it means nothing.
Ms. Modig stated this was the Community Development Commission's concern.
Having a pe�it was noC the problem. There are laws now that supposedly cover
all these things, but if those current laws cannot be enforced, how was the
permit going to be any more enforceable than the law?
Mr. Perez stated that the only way Anoka County is going to remain acceptable
and the few violations corrected is throngh a process that will address the
problem before it develops. Right now the law does not require Anoka County
Airport to tell the MPCA anything, because the MPCA does not have a permit for
noise. Anoka County Airport could build a terminal, because they do not need
a water pollution or air po�lution or solid waste permit. So, with Anoka
County Airport, particularly, this noise permit is the only way they can look
at the impact before it happens. Yes, there is a law, but it is only triggered
by a violation.
Ms. Schnabel stated that Mr. Perez has stated the MPCA has two avenues: civil
and criminal. What happens if the Executive Director, the person responsible
for proceeding with an action, fails to be persuaded that a situation exists
which is in violation of this permit?
Mr. Perez stated that the MPCA Board is a 9-member citizen board. He works
for that Board. If a citizen is concerned about this happening, that person
should go directly to the Board, and the Board will rule. The Board has been
known repeatedly to disagree with the Executive Director and the staff.
PLANNtNG COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 9, 1980 PAGE 6
Mr. Langenfeld stated the Environmental Quality Commission had expressed their
concern through the motion and letter written to the Executive Director.
Mr. Perez stated that letters mean a lot to the legislative agencies, but to
the MPCA, people mean a lot. He stated that if they wanted to make an impact,
then somebody should be at the MPCA Board meeting on April 29 at 10:00 a.m.
when the NPC-5 will be discussed. That presence is very important as the
Board listens to citizens, members of city boards, and City Council people.
Mr. Perez stated it was his personal decision that if this permit process is
adopted, they are going to do something about it. The language was important,
but the MPCA has that capability, even though it is not clearly spelled out
in the permit. This has been worked out so there is not going to be any issues
of pre-emption.
Mr. Perez stated that the state noise standards do not prevent degradation of
the environment, and right now they have a pretty nice environment in this part
of the city. The state standards do say you can produce noise up to a certain
limit, and there is not going to be health problems, but the quietude might
disappear. He did not want people to think that things were going to remain
the same by adopting this procedure. It will get noisier, but notso noisy as to
affect people's health.
Mr. Langenfeld stated he wanted to personally thank Mr. Perez for coming to
the meeting, and asked Mr. Perez if he had any comments or reco�endations for
the Commission.
Mr. Perez stated he would hope the Commission would take this seriously. He
would hope that they would continue to push the MPCA by suggesting things and
keeping track of what the MPCA is doing. He stated they should keep on writing
letters or attending meetings and speaking about what is going on in their
co�unity. If the MPCA does not feel the pressure, nothing happens. He also
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strongly recommended that the City send someone to the Apri1 29 MPCA Board
meeting to voice the City's concerns.
Mr. Harris also thanked Mr. Perez for coming and talking to the Commission.
Mr
seconded by Ms. Hughes, to recommend that the City
n the adontion of a reeulation such as NPC-5. Dx'aft II
er 12, 1979, callinQ for control of noise pollution at airports, and in
Draft II. would rec
lation.
Ms. Hughes stated she was not sure if this process would get done in time to
be much help fox' the Anoka County Airport, but there was always some hope that
the Anoka County Airport would not move too fast and could be controlled by a
permit, if the permit process was started quickly. She stated the MPCA's
authority to act is in the state statutes, and they can enforce it. She felt
the Director of the MPCA was very environmentally-conscious. She would like
to see them give the MPCA a11 the support they can, and what is left is the
Environmental Rights Act--anybody can sue.
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PLANNlNG COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 9, 1980 PAGE 7
Ms. Schnabel stated she got the feeling that Mr. Perez was very comfortable
with this document and felt there are enough safeguards to enforce it. He
did agree there should be some different language, but he felt that ultimately,
even if this doesn't work, they will still have the civil and criminal courts
to back them up.
Mr. Deblon stated the key thing is that if you put too much teeth into a process
like this, you will have federal pre-emption.
Mr. Harris stated he felt it was better than nothing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. RECEIVE MEMO FROM THE OFFICE OF THE CITY MANAGER DATED MARCH 27, 1980,
RE: THE CITY'S COURSE QE ACTION REGARDING ALLEY VACATIONS:
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to receive the memo from the
City Manager dated March 27, 1980.
Mr. Boardman stated it was determined by the City Council that the City should
not xequest vacation of any alleys and and property owner who wishes to request
a vacation will be advised to get a 100% agreement of the property owners affecteci
in order for tfie �ity to wa3ve the fee. -
Mr. Harris stated this puts them right back at the beginning again.
Mr. Deblon stated Staff did a survey and so a lot of people were left wondering
what is happening. He would like some dixection from the Planning C�ission
as to whether Staff should send letters notifying these people of where the
City now stands on alley vacations.
Mr. Harris stated that, yes, anyone interested in this item l�as the right to
know the City Council's decision on it.
Ms. Schnabel stated she felt this decision by the City Council was very discouraging.
Mr. Harris asked if the City Council was prepared to maintain unimproved alleys?
Mr. Boardman stated it was not the responsibility of the City Council to
maintain unimproved alleys--it was the responsibility of the property owners,
just like boulevards.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Harris stated that the Planning Commission was supposed to have a joint
meeting with City Council on Monday, April 14, and this was an item that should
be discussed with the CiCy Council.
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PLANNING COPMIISSION MEETING, APRIL 9, 1980 PAGE 8
3. RECEIVE GUIDELINES FOR THE PRIORITI2ATION OF FUNDING REQUESTS--FINAL DRAFT:
MOTION by Mr.. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to receive the "Guidelines
for the Prioritization of Funding Requests".
Mr. Boardman stated these guidelines have been approved by the Human Resources
Co�ission and are before the Planning Commission for its approval.
Ms. Hughes recov�ended that the title be amended to read: "Guidelines for
Setting Priorities of Funding Requests". The Commission concurred with this
amendment.
Ms. Hughes stated that on the second page, item 3, where it said, "a listing
of other sources of funding available to the applicant", was that sources from
which the applicant can receive funding or a list of foundations from the
Library?
Mr. Boardman suggested that the wording of 9�3 be changed to: "A listing of
specific and anticipated sources of funding available to the applicant.'.' The
Commission concurred with this change.
Ms. Hughes stated that on 966, the word, "excepted" should be changed to
"expected".
Ms. Schnabel stated that on the third page, she did not see anything
about lookinp_at_a_total�ercent of the dollars out of the budget
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that are used for staff versus actual services provided. For example, the
State of Minnesota has very strict guidelines in terms of agencies requesting
funds from private individuals. Maybe this should be in the guidelines.
Mr. Treuenfels stated the only place that was touched on was in D-3: "The
administrative and program service costs are in reasonable balance." He
stated that what was really in question was the administrative costs versus
the services provided.
Mr. Harris stated he would rather leave this up to the discretion of the
Human Resources Commission.
Ms. Schnabel stated she would hope that the Human Resources Commission would
scrutinize this carefully when they received funding requests.
Mr. Boardman stated this program was not going to be that extensive, and they
will let people know that the basis of the decisions will be strictly based on
priorities set up by the Human Resources Commission. It is going to be a
subjective decision made somewhere down the line. He would suggest that the
Human Resources Co�ission clearly lay out reasons why they have made a certain
decision. If the reasoning is valid, that will be laid out when the reconmenda-
tion goes to City Council.
Mr. Treuenfels stated the Human Resources Commission would be very happy to
supply reasons to both the Planning Commission and the City Council.
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PLANNiNG C�MMISSION MEETING, APRIL 9, 1980 PAGE 9
Ms. Hughes stated she felt B-2, "This service does not overlap with services
provided elsewhere in the community" was extremely restrictive. She was very
uncomfortable with that, because she could see the need sometimes to have more
than one organization in the city addressing the same program or same need.
Some organizations are limited by staff and budgets and sometimes the first
organization cannot handle any more people or whatever, so there is plenty of
need for setting up a second group.
Mr. Treuenfels stated this is only one of a number of points that would be
taken into consideration. The point here is if there is an organization that
does the job well in the sense of being able to serve all the people in need
of that particular service, then another organization trying to muscle in and
get funding from the city would be reminded that the taxpayer is paying for this
and that the need has to be established of why a second organization is actually
needed.
Mr. Boardman suggested that B-2 on the third page be reworded as follows: "The
extent this service does not overlap with other services provided elsewhere
in the community." The Cott�ission concurred with this change.
Mr. Boardman stated that the Planning Commission's role will be to look at
the Auman Resources Commission's reasoning behind their decisions. The Planning
Commission cannot change the Human Resources Commission's recommendations, but
will be allowed to make additional recommendations that will go on to City
Council.
Ms. Hughes stated that since the Human Resources Cov�ission has a particular
mission outlined for them in dealing primarily with the human resources in the
community and some proposals come to them dealing with environmental matters,
will the Human Resources Commission seek the advice of the Environmental Quality
Commiss�on or will they feel competent to rule on the quality of an environmental
application?
Mr. Treuenfels stated it was a point well taken. After the Human Resources
Commission has looked at an application dealing with environmental matters, it
is possible they would confer with the commission_also concerned with
environmental matters.
UPON A VOIGE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CIiAIR1�IP,N HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION TO
RECEIVE THE "GUIDELINES FOR SETTING PRIORITIES OF FUNDING REQUESTS'; AND TO
ALSO CONCUR WITH THE SUGGESTED CHANGES, CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
4. CONfINUED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. Z027ING:
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to change the agenda and
move "Proposed changes to Chaptex 205. Zoning" to the last item on the agenda.
Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, Chairman Harris declared the motion carried
unanimously.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 9, 1980 PAGE 10
5. RECEIVE MARCH 12, 1980, PARKS & RECREATION C�fISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to receive the March 12, 1980,
Parks & Recreation Commission minutes.
Ms, Hughes stated the trip to the Brooklyn Center and St. Louis Park recreational
facilities was very informative. Brooklyn Center's community recreational
center was a very nice facility and very well maintained. St. Louis Park's
facility turned out to be mostly ice arena with an outdoor swimming pool and
little other facilities. That facility was poorly maintained. Neither of the
facilities or their programs were self-supporting. She stated the Parks &
Recreation Commission may have the opportunity to visit the recreational center
in Rochester, Mn.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNADTIMOUSLY,
b. RECEIVE MARCH 13, 1980, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUPHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Modig, to receive the March 13, 1980,
Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes.
Mr. Boardman stated that staff has a meeting with JVD (Joint Venture Developers)
on Eriday. They do have a timetable and there will be a decision-making point
sometime in July. At that time, the HRA will make the determination whether the
project with JVD is go or no go. Staff also has a meeting next week with IMI
(International Multi-Housing, Inc.) on IMi's proposal for Phase 3 of the
development.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY;
7. RECEIVE MARCH 13, 1980, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to receive the
March 13, 1980, Environmental Quality Cammission minutes.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that the Environmental Quality Conmiission has a new
member, Jon Erickson, who is replacing Connie Metcalf. He stated he also has
Marvin Hora's resignation to present to the Co�ission. Mr. Aora is resigning
because of family and job commitments.
Mr. Langenfeld stated he wanted the Planning Commission to note the last four
paragraphs on page 3 Which contained important information.
Mr. Deblon stated that in regard to the LDN (level of dayinight noise)
comparative methodology being used by the consultant, TRA, according to the
MPCA, the LDN does not reflect violations of state noise standards because
they are an average of an average. He stated he felt unless they can get
the L10 contours, they won't really know what the noise impacts will be on
the various alternatives.
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PLANAIING COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 9, 1980 PAGE 11
Mr. Deblon stated that the Anoka County Task Force was having an open house
at Blaine City Hall on Sat., May 3.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
seconded bv Ms. Huahes, to receive Marvin Hora's
to be forwarded on to City Council. Upon a voice vote, a
declared the mot
8. RECEIVE MARCH 25, 1980, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to receive the Mar. 25, 1980,
Appeals Commission minutes.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
IINANlMOUSLY;
9. RECETVE MARCH 27, 1980, ENERGY CONAffSSION NffNUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to receive the March 27, 1980,
Energy Coum�ission minutes.
Mr. Saba stated this was the Energy Commission's first meeting and was basically
an organizational meeting.
Mr. Harris stated that in answer to Mr. Wharton's question about whether the
Chamber of Covmierce had an energy committee, to his knowledge they did not.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY;
10. OTHER BUSINESS:
Mr. Treuenfels seated that the Human Resources Conmiission has asked him to
bring a question before the Planning Commission. He stated the Human Resources
Commission has been approached by the State Department of Human Rights with
a newly proposed method of settling possible grievances that result from alleged
discrimination of one kind or another. This method is called the "No-Fault
Grievance Procedure". The Human Resources Commission would like to know the
feelings of the Planning Covmission as to whether the Human Resources Covmission
should get into the settling of grievances due to discrimination or even
if this was a proper area for the Human Resources Co�ission to get into.
Mr. Boardman stated this was something brought up to the Planning Cammission
about a year ago by the Human Resources Commission. At that time, the Planning
Co�ission asked some very valid questions as to how it was going to be handled,
who was going to be responsible for handling it, and how it was to be staffed.
He stated he had not read the new document, but he would be concerned about
the staffing requirements.
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PLANNiNG COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 9, 1980 PAGE 12
Ms. Cayan stated that it would involve staff time, processing, and a great deal
of commission time. From what she can gather, it would take at least 3-4 hours
of staff time per grievance. It would also involve training time for staff.
Mr. Harris stated this was another item that should be discussed with the
City Council at the meeting on April 14.
Mr. &oardman stated they could also contact Coon Ragids to see how many grievances
the Coon Rapids Human Rights Coam�ission handles.
Mr. Boardman stated that a person living at 198 Mercury Drive, which is a
corner lot, has the continual problem of people driving up over the corner of
his lot. This person wants to put in a split rail fence out to the curb and
along the curb to the street. Mr. Boardman stated he has advised this person
that he would prefer that not be done. Mr. Boardman stated he would suggest
that this person put some big rocks or boulders on the corner if that is the
direction the Planning Commission would like him to take.
The Conmiission concurred with this suggestion.
Mr. Boardman stated it is again time for junk yards to renew their licenses.
He stated that the Co�ission might recall that Sam's Auto Parts was one junk
yard that initially got a special use permit to put in classic auto parts. The
problem is that the owner is not specializing in classic auto parts as specified
under that special use permit and has not been for about three years. Did the
Planning Coumdssion want to start enforcing the special use permit or make the
owner come back for a new special use permit or an amended special use permit?
Mr. Rarris stated something should be done because the operation was a change
from the original special use permit. He stated that the Commission should
have a11 the information on it first and then they can take another look at it.
Mr. Harris stated that he had talked to Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, about a
joint meeting between the Planning Co�ission and the City Council. If there
were no objections, this meeting will be held Monday, April 14, at 9:00 p.m.
He stated that some of the items to be discussed are expense accounts, the
drainage issue, person to attend the MPCA Board meeting on April 29, and the
"No-Fault Grievance Procedure" proposed to Che Human Resources Conm�ission.
Mr. Harris stated there is a planning seminar called, "Planning Quiet
Communities" to be held on Thursday, May 8. Any of the Coum�ission members
wishing to attend should contact Mr. Boardman.
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PLANNING GQMMISSION MEETING APRIL 4, 1980 PAGE 13
Mr. Harris stated he has had some discussions wiCh Larry Covm�ers, Chairperson
of the Housing & Redevelopment Authority about the concerns expressed by the
Planning Commission. Mr. Covm�ers was also concerned about the Planning Co�ission's
concerns. Mr. Commers stated he would like the Planning Co�ission to become
more actively involved with the HRA, and Mr. Harris had told him he thought
the Commission should do that on an individual basis at this time and not as
a commission.
Mr. Harris stated he also had the opportunity to discuss with Mr. Cammers
the city prosecutor's position and Mr. Prieditis' position with the ARA, and
he thought they have worked out a solution. Mr. Commers has gotten some legal
advice on this, and to ensure the integrity of the HRA, the HRA will set up a
written policy or procedure which will be followed by anyone having a possible
conflict of interest at any time on any item. Mr. Harris stated he thought
this was a very good idea.
Mr. Aarris stated it would behoove the Planning Co�ission members as private
citizens to attend HRA meetings and be involved in the HRA's determinations.
11. CONTINUED: PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZONlNG:
MOTION by Ms, Hughes, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to continue this item aC another
meeYing. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris declared the motion
carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Ms, Modig, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to adjourn the meeting. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris declared the Apri1 9, 1980,
Planning Co�nission meeting adjourned at 11:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
L�-l/`v"
Lpn e Saba
Recording Secretary