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PLANNIN6 COFIMISSION MEETTNG
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:'
City of Fridley
A6ENDA
41EDNESDAY, SEPTEf16ER 24, 1980
APPROVE PLANNII�G COMMISSIOPJ MINUTES: SEPTEt46ER 10, 1980
1. PUBLIC HEARING: P.S. #80-02, REGISTERED L.4ND SURVEY, E39' PIINNES07A
RAiJSFER RAILt�IAY COMPANY: Being a replat of Parcel �It300 described
as: The NE 1/4 of the SW 1/4, except the EaSt 150 feet thereof;
The North 50 feet of the SE 1/4 of the S41 1/4 lying 4lest of the
East 150 feet thereof, all lying in the South Half of Section 11,
T-30, R-24, City of Fridley, generally locaed along the University
Avenue East 5ervice Orive and 73rd Avenue N.E.
2. PU3LIC HEARIFJG: SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #80-10. BY MARJORIE F.
COULSON: Per Section 205.051, 2, A, of the Fridley City Code, to
allot the construction of a second accessory building, a 24' x 26'
detached garage, to be located on Lot 8, Block 2, Meadowlands
Addition, the same being 811 Mississippi Street.
3. ENYIRONMENTAL AkSaSESSMENT 4�ORKSHEET FOR MtTRUN1C'S DEVELOPMENT
4. VACATION REQUEST: SAV #80-09, PETITION
to vacate alley in Block 7, Hyde Park, 1
between 2nd Street and 2 1/2 Street N.E.
7:30 P.M.
PAGES
1 - 15
1K - 22
23 - 27
28 < 35
100% Agreementi 36 - 40
n the 6000 Block
5. VACATION REQUEST: SAV �80-10, RICHARD IJALTZ: Vacate the Northerly 41 - 4G
1 foot of a 12 foot drainage and utility easement located on tF�P
South property line of Block 9, Block 2, Hillcrest Addition, to
allow a new dwelling to be constructed without encroaching on this
easement, the same being 7105 Ashton Avenue N.E.(See Appeals 9-16-80j
6. CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARIN6: AMENDM�NT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY SEPARATE
PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.
7. RECEIYE N0�1A�� RE50URCES COMMISSIOy PIINUTES: SEPTEMBfR 4, 1980 SALPiON
See funding valuations for; Central Center for Family Resources,
Alexander House, and SACA.
8. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: SEPTEFiBER 16, 998Q` YELLON
9. "OTHER BI;SINESS:
ADJOURNME?!T:
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 10, 1980
CAT�I+ TO ORDER c
Chairman Harris called the September 10, 1980� Planning Commission
meeting to order at 7s40 p.m.
ROLL CALLs
Members Present: Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenfels, Ms. Schnabel,
Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes, Mr. Wharton,
Mr. Peterson, (for Ms. Sporre)
Members Absent: None
Others Presents Lucille A SkovranC160 31 ardena Circle
Ed 3onak, 133 N.E. Graig Way
Duane Prairie, 489 Rice Creek Terrace
Garry Rohling, 817 Gates Ave., Elk River, Minn.
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APPROVAI, OF AUGU5T 20,_1980, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
Ms. Schnabel stated that on page 3, the second paragraph, the
last word 'issue', should be changed to 'interest'.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Wharton, to approve the
corrected August 20, 1980 Planning Commission minutes.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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easement in Block µ, rtymoutin eaul���il, ���a
Block between Main Street znd 2nd Avenue N.E
Vacate alley
d:in the 4800
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M r. Boardma."i stated that the.City has no problem with the vacation,
and that they would like to recair. 3rainage e.n3 utility easements.
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S/�V � 07 $O vacate .�Y easement,_in tflOCl{_�-7_� � Y1 t�tuu_�ti riuui �iv+,r
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located_in_the 4800JB1ock.between_Main Street and 2nd,Avenue N.___,
with.the stipula.tion,that the City retain utility and_drainage_
easements.
UPON A VOICE \�OTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 10, 1980_ ____.___.PAGE 2
2. VACATION REQUEST, SAV #80-08 B
utility and drainage easement i.
North of I,ots 4, 5 axid 6, Block
in Ordinance 371, to be part of
3rd Street N.E. (Must retain N.
easement)
EDWARD JONAKs Vacate the
vacated 7 1/2 Avenue lying
5, City View, that was vacated
a new building site at 57$0
10' for utility & drainage
Mr. Boardman etated that about three or four meetings ago, the
Commission had a lot spli t request on this item, in which the
petitioner split off 37 feet oi the Northerly City View Addition
Lots 4, 5, & 6, of Block 2. He stated that at that time the
Planning Commission requested that they get a Yacation, in order
to make that a usable lot, and that the lot split not be granted
by the City Council until such vacation be applied for. At this
time, he stated, Mr. Jonak is applying for that vacation to make
that a buildable lot. He stated that at this time there is one
change that they are recommending from the previous lot split,
and that is, that they feel that the 16 foot utility easement
is not necessary, and that it would prebably be easier to bring
in the utilities from 5'7 1/2, along the existing easement, and
therefore they would want to retain a portion of that utility
& drainage easement.
Mr. Harris stated that he noted that they had received a letter
irom Mr. Larry Benson of NSP.
Mr. Boardmaii stated that yes they have, and that N5P would want
to retain 10 £eet for uhili�y easement.
Ms. Schnabel questioned where t'_le ease;aent ran?
Mr. Boardman stated that the easement runs ta3ang�t:�e nort?� side
of the lot, so that they would want to retain 10 foot along the
northerly section.
Chairman Harris questioned if anyone in the audience wishEd to
speak on this item?
Mr. Ed Jonak, 133 Craigway N.E., came forward to address the
Commission. He stated that he had originally applied for a
lot split and at that time, there was no mention of this utility
easement, in the situation at that time, but that when it was
broughtup, they did apply for a vacation of the easement, and
that now they £ind out that they still have to have an easement
on the property. Mr. Jonak questioned what he was getting for
his $125.00?
Mr. Boardman stated that what he was getting was a portion oP
that easement vacated, but the City is retaining LO feet of it.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTIIVIBER 101 1,Q80__ PAGE�
Mr. Jonak questioned, as to where exactly would this easement
run?
Mr. Hoardman stated that it would run east to west, along the
northerly ,.lQ feet of Lots 3, 4, 5 and 6.
Mr. Jonak questioned if he was correct in assuming the easement
was to provide for drainage, utilities, sewer, and water?
Mr. Boardman stated that based on the letter they have from NSP,
they had stated that they have an overhead single phase distribution
line within the easement.
Much discussion ensued about the location of the power line, and
pole.
Chairman Harris suggested that this item could be tabled until
the time when Mr. Jonak could contact Mr. Benson with NSP, to
find out where the utility pole was located.
M r. Jonak stated that he feels that this has been tabled too many
times already. He further stated that it didn't seem to him that
he was getting any service here. He then stated that everytime
he comes in to do something, that there is a new obstacle. He
stated that he started by paying $�OR.00 for a survey for the
lot, then $75.00 for a lot split fe�, and now $125.00 for a
vacation fee, and now he doesn't know what it will cost for a
relocation of a telephone/utility pole. He stated, that if he
had known a11 this at the onset, he may have not gone this route,
because of the expense. He stated that he is going through all
this expense to add to the City's tax rolls, and now he is being
penalized for it by having to pay all these fee's. He stated
that he has asked for the fee's to be waived.
Ms. Schnabel stated, that because not everything was finalized
at this point, she felt that maybe this item should be tabled,
until NSP had been contacted.
vac� the utility
lying_North of Lo
vacated in Ordina
��rd Street N
utility__easement�
lot
wi t:
�t,_,�econded by Ms.__Hughes to recommend to -0ity
f_Vacation Request,_5AV �0�08, by_,Edward Jonak:
and_drainage easementiin vacated 52 1/2_avenue
s�.5.�ana_6,_Block 5, City..View, that was
ce�Zl�to _be�art�of_a new building site at
E.of the Southerly 23_feet of__the existing
retainin� the Northerly 10 feet £or a utilit�
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he._reauirement for_,the 16 foot easement on
ipulation that_ Mr_Jonak _reach_an_ agreement
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
gLP.`�INC_COMM�$�I.ON M�ETI.NG, SEP�EMBE$_LO,�Q$Q __p�G� 4�
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BLIC HEARING: AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY_
iDE, GENERALLY KNOWN AS THE FRIDLEY ZONING CODE.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to open the public
hearing on the Amendment to Chapter 205 of the Fridley City Code.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris declared the
public hearing open at 8e15 P.M.
M r. Boardman stated that they have sent this document to the
Chamber of Commerce, and also to Virg Herrick. Mr. Boardman
stated that for this reason he would like to suggest that the
public hearing be kept open , so that if there are any comment�
from the Chamber of Commerce, or Mr. Herrick, the Coromission
would then be able to react to them. M r. Boardman stated that
the Commission should be aware that he had compiled a'Fridley
Code 5ummary', that was a summary of the changes that have been
made, so that the Council would be able to quickly see the changes.
Ms. Schnabel stated that it had occurred to her that in light of the
possibility of more single family homes may consider a conversion
of their homes into a two family dwelling, that she wondered if
they should consider a definition for 'double bungalow°, and
'duplex', even though they do have a definition for one and
two family's.
M r. Boardman stated that because no where in the code does it
refer to do�zt�le bungalow, or duplex, that thereiore there is nat
a need for a deYinition.
M r. Harris stated that these would be called two family dwellings.
Mr. Boardman stated that he noticed that the wording for allowing
special use permit in a single iamily dwelling had been eli.minated.
He questioned the Commission if there had been an error, or if
they had deleted the wording.
After discussion the Commission determined that there was an error.
M r. Boardman stated that it had been suggested that under Non-
Conforming Uses and Structures 205.043 pa�e 8, #1. some t,ype
of wordin� be added that would say a t�operty
that �resently has blacktop, and no concrete curbing, on the
property, is classified as a non-conforming use. He further
stated that what they wanted to cover was that when a s�tructure
was expanded or an addition was added to the non-conforming use
building, the owner would have to upgrade to concrete curbing,
landscaping etc.
M r. Harris stated that he has a problem with this because when
you would say remodel, or rehab, that was pretty general, but
when you say an addition, or rebuild, that was completely different
terms. He stated that the reason he wanted to bring this up was
PLANNING CONII'�[ISSZO�EET N _,_S�T�[�E�,],01 1 g$_0 PA =. K
he was afraid that if there was a restriction like that placed
in the zoning code, they would be discouraging retrofitting
existing structures to be more energy efficient. Mr. Harris
then gave an example of someone wanting to insulate there place,
and then the City would have to tell them that would be fine,
but that they would then have to pay £or upgrading landscaping,
and putting in concrete curbing.
M r. Wharton stated that he had a personal feeling, that when
somebody s�arts saying that they are requixing someone to do
landscaping, that he thinks about what the purpose people
have and the objective people have in government. He further
stated that he wondered how much are we going to allow government
to tell us what to do.
Much discussion ensued on how this item could best be handled
without discouraging upgrading of property.
M r. Oquist questioneil whether they were referring to commercial
or residential structures?
Mr. Harris stated that he was getting tired of everything happening
in the town happening to the industrial and commercial property�
and noone touching the residential, because they might vote. He
Yurther stated that he wondered who was paying the freight?
He further stated that he felt that they have been hounding _
people who have been entrepeneurs, and businesspeople in the
community for twenty years, about some little curbing someplace,
because it is blacktopping instead of concrete, and yet the
City hasn't completed it's curbing project. He stated that
in �'act, in front of the City's M ayor's house, he still has got
blacktopped curbing. He wondered when that would be ripped out
and then charged about $1fi.00 per foot? Mr. Harris stated that
this was also true of the curbing in front of the City Manager's
l�ouse. He further stated that not to many years ago, the City
turned around and put in a parking lot, while reauiring the
rest o£ the City to put in concrete, the City put in blacktop.
M r. Peterson questioned if on page 13� section 3. A., that when
the noise abatement ordinance is passed, ii that would then be
added to this section.
Mr. Harris stated that yes it Would be included at the time a
noise ordinance is adopted.
M r. Wharton stated that the Energy Commission has looked at the
Zoning Code, bui that they are not at the present time in a
position to make recommendations on this amended zoning ordinance.
He further stated that he would hope that the public hearing
would be left open so that the Energy Commission could make
recommendations on the code.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING,_ SEPTEMBER_10t_1Q80 , PAGE 6
M r. Harris stated that on page 4, item �30, that he was still having
a problem with this section.
M r. Boardman stated that he has a tough time with it, but that
you can't stop it. He £urther stated that hopefully, they could
eliminate some of the home occupations that are offensive to the
surrounding neighbors.
Mr. Harris stated that was the point he was aiming at. That iP
there was indeed a way that they could control it if there was
an impact on the neighbors.
Discussion ensued on the various types of home occupations that
may cause problems, and ways of controlling any occupations that
do cause problems to the neighbors.
Discussion ensued on the limiting of home occupations by means
of requiring a special use permit.
Ms. Hughes stated that she felt that some home occupations should
be allowed, and in some areas.
M r. Boardman suggested that the Commission might want to consider
requiring all home occupations to be licensed.
M�r. Petersen stated that if his wife cannot have a few piano
students come to their home for lessons, without having a
license, that he felt that was a real infringement upon his rights.
M r. Harris stated that we talk about all these high and mighty things,
but that when it comes right down to the practicality oi it, nothing
much happens in the residential areas to clean them up. He then
stated that he objecis to,it. He further stated that then they
talk neighborhood preservation, and upgrading the living standard
in Fridley, but that when it comes right down to the doing it,
it isn't done because somebody might not vote.
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Peterson to continue the
public hearing on the amendment to Chapter 205 of the Fridley City
Gode, generally known as the Fridley Zoning Code.
UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING AYE,,CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARID THIS
ITIIvI CONTINUED TO THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to amend the
agenda, in order to hear Mr. Duane Prairie speak on an item.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, AI,L VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
AGENGA AMENDED.
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�ANNING COMMI,�SION MEETING, SEPTF]V1BER�0, 1980 PAGE_.Z._.—
4�. RE UE T FROM PARK CONSTRUCTION C0. TO PARK R.V. TRAILERS.
M r. Boardman stated that stai'f felt that all that was required on
this item would be a trailer license. At that point in time,
he stated, Park Construction came in and applied for such a license.
He further stated that they wanted to bring it to the Planning
Commission for discussion. He also stated that the City Council
had wanted some input from the Plfasining Commission, to see if this
would be the appropriate thing to go with an industrial area.
Mr. Praire then brought forward the sketches. and plans for
what Park Construciion was requesting. He stated that they
would want to install sewer, water and electrical service lines for
approximately six R.V. trailers.
Mr. Harris questioned if there would be a watchman on duty?
M r. Prairie stated that about a month ago they had vandals come
in a drive trucks through the chain link fence. A't that time
they had considered a watchman, but that if this application
was acceptable, there would be someone there periodically, there-
fore there would not be a necessity for a watchman.
Mr. Oquist questioned if these trailers would be inside the fenced
area?
M r. Prairie stated that yes they would�:-
M r. Petersen questioned if these would be personal vehicles of
P ark Construction employees? �
Mr. Praire stated that yes they would be personal vehicles, and
there would be no charge to the employees.
Ms. Hughes stated th�t what it comes down to, was whether they
would wan� people living in an area zoned M2.
Ms. Hughes questioned as to where else these vehicles could
be parked.
Ms. Hughes questioned why the City would want to allow this? She
�urther stated that so far she has not heard any real :�ar�s;iin.
M r. Harris stated that many people have visitors from out of town
park these R.V. vehicles in the driveway, or street and leave
them there and use them while visiting. He further stated that
therefore he couldn't understand why there would be any difference.
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�LANNING QOMMISSION�'ilEET2NG SEPTF�BE�10. 1980 pA��_�
Discussion ensued on whether this item would require diiferent
zoning, and the precendents, if any.
Ms. Hughes stated that the Planning Commission does not have
licensing come before them, but if the City Council has the
right to issue licenses, then they could act on this, but if
they are seeking her opinion through the Commission, then she
would have to say that she feels this would require rezoning.
Mr. Prairie stated that he had no objections to any of the
stipulation discussed concerning the number of vehicles,
the reviewal of ihe.license annually, no charges for parking
of the vehicles etc.
M r. Oquist stated that he felt that if the Park employees were
willing to sleep there, under those conditions that he was willing
to allow it.
MOTION by Mr. Wharton, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to recommend
to theCiiy Council, the approval of the license application
of Park Construction, for the parking of six recreational vehicles
�t.V.} on the Park Construction Company lot, with the following
stipulations, that the number of vehicles be limited to six,
that this license be reviewed annually, and that the recreational
vehicles not exceed 28 feet
UPON A VOIC�. VOTE, MR. OQUIST VOTING AYE, M5. HUGHES VOTZNG NkY;
WITH THE REASON THAT SHE BELIEVES THIS TO BE A REZONING, THAT
IS NOT REING HANDLEI� PROPERLY AS A REZONING, MR. WHARTON" VOTING
AYE, MR. HARRIS VOTING AYE, MR. TREUENFELS, VOTING AYE, MS. SCHNABEL,
VOTING AYE, MR. PETERSEN VOTING AYE. CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED
THE MOTION PASSED.
Chairman Harris advised Mr. Prairie that he should be back for
when this item comes to the City Council at 7:30, September 22, 1980
Chairman Harris recessed the Planning Commission for a five minute
recess.
5.
IN THE TMPLIIVSENTATION _SECTION
MOTION by Mr. Wharton, seconded by Ms. Hughes to open the public
hearing on receiving input in the implementation section of the
Fridley Comprehensive Develpment Plan. Upon a voice vote all
voting Aye, Chairman Harris declared the Public Hearing open
at 10:15 p.m.
Mr. Boardman stated that the status o£ the complete Comprehensive
Plan, is that they have requested an extension until November 1st
from Metro Council.
M s. Schnabel stated that she had a question under the modest cost
housing opportunities, there is an item about local housing bond
programs. She questioned whether this was the same type of
program that was being done out in San Diego?
PLANNING COMMISSION, MEETING SEPTEIV[BER 10�_ 1�8�________.�.. PAGE 9_
Mr. Boardman explained that this is the same one as what is being
operated in Coon Rapids. He further explained that it is like
an Industrial Revenue Bond, but that it is v�hen a Community sells
bonds, and the,y allow those bonds out at a lower interest rate.
M r. Boardman ?urther explained how some of these bonds
work.
Ms. Schnabel stated that she has read some articles relating
particular problems that have been encountered with some of the
housing bonds, in different areas of the country.
Mr. Petersen stated that he found he had problems with some of
the wording ir. some areas, in particular on page 22, on Land Use,
at the bottom o£ the page. He stated that they are referring
to State and Federal suggested guidlines. Mr. Petersen questioned
what about any local or i�etropolitan guidelines?
Mr. Boardman stated that the Flood Plains are strictly regulated
by the Federal 2nd S'tate guidelines '�=ough the �TdR, and tr�e off;ces
o? the Federai Emergency, and there are no other guidlines ior this.
Mr. Petersen questioned what about the Rice Creek Watershed, or
something like that?
M r. Boardman stated that they get all their information directly
from the Department of Natural Resourc�s and that the City has
to comply witY�.'Federal and State Regul'ations for the adoption of
the Flood Plains.
Mr. Petersen stated that on Page 23, the Noise Abatement Program
he felt that it should be worded 'the City will implement', not
"strongly consider", because he stated, they are working on it
right now.
Aiter much discussion the Commission stated that the words
,n . a nrnceG� s ou e pu in an stron� y consider _deleted.
Mr. Petersen stated that he wanted to read something that would
pertain to the City Budget that was passed on to him, and that
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this was in regards to the Nature Center at North Park.
"The implementation for the Nature Center at North Park, is in
jeopardy now, and the Commission must clea�y reiterate its desire
to provide staff, and program funds to support implementation of
the Nature enter. A11 outside efforts now in soliciting fiznds
from Corpor�tions, such as Medtronics, have been used at the
iVature Center to complete the building iacility."
Ms. Hughes questioned if this statement was a recommendation,
and from whom?
PLANNING COMMIS�ION_MEETING__SEPTIIYiBER_1OL1980 _ PAGE 10
Mr. Petersen stated that these remarks came from Lee Anne Spore,
and that it was something they have discussed, and something
she has studied.
Mr. Boardman stated that he did not know if they would want to
p�ut in those exact words. He stated that they might want to state
private industry, for potential funding resources.' He further
stated that he did not know i£ they would want to make a specific
statement about one park.
Mr. Petersen stated that the concern was that North Park was not
left out. He stated that when they talk about the joint powers
agreement for Locke Park, he understands that there are certain
things being left out of the Nature Center's building facility
because of funding problems.
M r. Harris stated that if things hadn't been discarded, the
building might not have been built, because the bids came in
$ 100,000.00 over budget. He Yurther stated that hopefully
things could be added to the £acility as funds became available.
Mr. Petersen stated that would be doubi�ful. He iurther stated
that if everything else is getting all the money they need, he
wondered why the Nature Center facility wasn't?
M s. Hughes Gtated tha� there are fundc being raised ior the
Schroer Property, playiield, both frr the construction of
the facilities up there, and potentially for a building, when
you have all kinds of other needs in terms of community parks.
Ms. Hughes stated that the VFW was donating $50,000 to finish
one ballfield at the Schroer Property. She further stated that
Medtronic was asked for a sum of money, in an informal approach,
about two weeks ago, for a potential recreational building, on
this site. She further stated that what Mr. Petersen is saying
is, that this kind of fund raising, and talks, and requests,
with the idea of raising money for that area is happening, when
there are needs in the community parks, and when there are also
needs up ai North Park. She further stated that it is never
money £or a park system, but rather for a particular project.
M r. Harris stated that to back up a bit, he stated where was
all this funding for North Park when that building was first
proposed then? All the funding that has been provided for
North Park to his understanding, is really taxpayers dollars,
whether it's local, state, or federal. He further stated that
they only had so much money -to work with, and in order for that
building to come within that budget they had to do what they could.
Mr. Petersen stated that was not what Ms. Sporre was referring to,
but rather that she was saying lets take care of what we have,
before we start looking into future things, that we haven"t even
started developing yet.
P�NING_COMMISSION_MEET�NG.�FPTIMBER_10i, 1�80______;PAGE_ll�
Mr. Harris stated that if that was the case then, that was a
determination that Planning, ancl the City Council should make
in a Policy Determination, and that it really doesn't belong
in the Implementation Section, of the Comprehensive Plan. He
stated that he felt though that it should be discussed.
M s. Hughes stated that she agreed.
M r. Boardman stated that most of your resources for certain
parks are funded because of outside fun.ding sources. He further
stated that with North Park it was with. $365,000.00 that was
talking£parkse�it w sngoing to berclosestot$56oh000100tthatwere
they are getting from :.A�.CO�:, that if they were to apply�f��LI
�he same money for North Park they would not get those
funds. He further stated that they were talking about different
needs in dif£erent areas, and there is no way that you could
take your difierent resources, and put them into one bunch.
MOTION by Ms. Hughes,seconded by Mr. Oquist, to close the
Public Hearing on Receiving Input in the Implementation Section
Of the Fridley Comprehensive Development Plan.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
PITBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 10:�5 P•m•
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded ��r Ms. Schnabel, to recomrend
the IMplementation Section of the Comprehensive Plan to City
Council vrith amendmen�s_',as discussed.
UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. RECEIVE PARKS_AND RECREATION__CONIMISSION MINUTES: AUGUST�1��_1.980
M s. Hughes stated that she warited to note that the Parks znd
Recreation Commission continued their discussion on of development,
and remodeling o£ neighborhood parks.
Ms. Schnabel stated that in reading the minutes, that she felt
thati'I[r. Robinson's observations of the parks were some of the
best reporting that she has seen on the parks in a long time.
She further stated that she felt that it was a realistic opinion,
and report.
Ms. Hughes stated that the one problem she had with it was that
there was apparently no comparision done with the census figures.
Mr. Treuenfels questioned whether 3.2 beer was allowed, or not,
in Locke Park?
PLANNING COIVIlVIIS�ION_MEET_�NG SEPTEIVIBER 10, 1980 ,�pAGE 12
Ms. Hughes stated that when they accepted the property from the
Douglas Chapel, for Locke Park, that in that deed was the provision
that no intoxicating beverages would be allowed in the park.
She stated that the problem gets to be what is intoxicating.
She stated that they have posted a sign that states this.
Mr. Harris stated that regarding the letter to the residents,
he felt the sentence was not to clear ';hat stated; "we are
interested in appointing the community mainstays, and interested
folk."
Ms. Hughes stated that the Commission had changed that, and that
what she had said was "that we are interested in appointing
people who were members of organizations, people who are with
a building backround, and then just plzin folk." but, she stated
they felt that was insulting too.
MOTION by Ms. Hughes., seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to receive the
Parks and Recreation Commission Minutes, August 13, 1980,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIF3vfAN HARRIS, DECLARED THE
MINUTES RECEIVED.
7.
Ms. Schnabel stated that perhaps it wuuld be wise for the HRA to
proceed with a different phase, o£ development, that perhaps
the conditions for phase 1 development are just not good enough
at this time.
Mr. Boardman stated that they are considering all p�ases.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Petersen, to receive the
Housing & Redevelopment Commission Minutes, of August 14, 1980.
UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS, DECLARED THE
MINUTES RECEIVED.
8. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL .UALITY COMMISSION MINUTES• AUGUST 19� 1980
Mr. Petersen stated th,at he would like to mention the EQC°s feelings
regarding the creosote problem. He stated they feel that the
matter is not totally solved, and that there is still a question
until they receive some £urther information, and reports. He
further stated that they feel they would not be able to close
the issue, until they got a sign off fr�m the PCA, and the
Minnesota Department of Health, with their final findings.
Discussion ensued on the issue, and various departments and
the lack of reports.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SEPTIIV[BER 10, 198� _ PAGE_i��
Mr. Petersen stated that �e 2uestioned the Planning Commissions
ieelings on the EQC's feeling that a stipulation be placed on
the building permit, so as to protect themselved, and provide
an'out if somthing further is found either while building,
or in further tests, or reports.
M r. Harris stated that he felt that it would be wise to seek
City Council direction on this matter.
MOTION by �r. Peterson, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to receive the
Env onmental Quality Commission Minutes, dated August 19, 19$0.
UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
ENVIRONMENTAI� QUALITX COMMISSION MIPdUTES RECEIVED.
MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to recommend to
the City Council to include appropriate special conditions, on the
building permit on the �fedtronics site, to safeguard the interests
of the City, and the general health, sa.fety, and welfare, pertaining
to the discovery of additional contaminated areas, from the
creosote operation.
UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIfdVlAN HARRIS DECZARED THE
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
RECEIVE EiVERGY CONITJIISSION P�fINUTE;+ AUGUST 26, 1. 80
MOTION by Mr. OquiUt, seconded by D1r. Treuenfels, to receive the
Energy Commission Minutes, dated August 26, 1980
UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING AYE, CHAII�YIAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10. RECEIVE APPEALS COMiVfISSION MINUTES: AUGUST 26 1980
Ms. Schnabel stated that she would like the Planning Commission to
note, that the Appeals Commission recommendation, that the City
of Fridley sign on Universtiy Avenue is in disrepair, and that
whoever is responsible, should have it updated, and repaired.
M r. Boardman stated that it was Naegeles responsibility, and that
they are ready to fix the sign, but that the City has not as yet
decided what they want to have on the sign.
MOTION by i�s. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to receive the
Appeals Commission Minutes, August 26, 1980.
UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SEPTE�IBER 10r_1980 �AGE 14
11. OTHER BUSINESSs
A. City of Spring Lake Park - Official Publication
Chairman Harris questioned if this Plat approval would impact
the City of Fridley?
Mr. Boardman stated that no it would not.
MOTION by �Ir. Treuenfels, seconded by M,r. Peterson, to receive the
publication from the City of Spring Lake Park.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL YOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS, DECI,ARED THE
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
B. MSD Recycle - Mr. Dave Locey
Mr. Boardman stated that he had spoken to Ms. i�odig, on this item,
and that she felt -that it probably was a ploy by the can company's
to get the legislature to not impose a deposit on soit drink
can. She also felt ihat this would not impact the existing City's
recycling center. iVir. Boardman further stated that what MSD
was looking at was to set up a temporary recycling center, at the
Pop Shoppe location with a payment to people per pound for what
they bring in. He further stated that they would start with
accepting steel, aluminum, and plastic, and if this proved
successful they would then apply for a permanent location, that'
would be North of the Pop 8hoppe building.
M r. Harris questioned if this was to be located in the paxking lot?
Mr. Boardman stated that the present one, would be located in the
Pop Shoppe parking lot. They would have in the lot an office
trailer, some holding containers, and a magnetic separator, and van.
Mr. Harris stated that they then would require a special use
permit, and that he would like to see some better plans. Because
this would impact �the surrounding area, M r. Harris stated, he
ieels they must apply ior a special use permit.
Mr. Treuenfels stated that this would give people an incentive,
and you would see a lot of litter disappear.
Ms. Schnabel stated that she concurs with Mr. Harris, and would
like to see a better drawing of what is planned.
M�TI�N by Mr. Treuen£els, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to receive the
MSD Recycle letter, of September 8, 1980.
UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VQTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTIOM PASSED UNANiMOUSLY.
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PLANNING COMMISSION_MEETING__SEPTEMBER 16, 19a� _!.._ PAGE 1_
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to recommend that
MSD Recycle, apply for a Special. Use Permit, and come in with
drawings to scale, and definitions of the equipment required.
DPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED
THE MOTION PASSED UNANTiVI0U5LY.
M r. Treuenfels> questioned how much this Company would have to
pay ior a special permit, for something he considers highly
beneficial to the City of Fridley?
Mr. Harris, and Mr. Oquist, stated that they did not know if
it was beneficial at this point, and ii it is, maybe it should
not be in that location.
�DJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by i�s. Schnabel, to adjourn
the meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE,
SEPTII4IBER 10, 1980,
11:45 P.m.
ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRI5 DECLARED THE
PLANNING CO�ISSIQN MEETING ADJOIIRNED AT
RespectYully submitted,
���y � ��
Elaine R. Reed
Recording Secretary
PUSLIC HERRING
BEFORE TNE
PLANNING COMMISSION
Notice is here6y given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning
Cortrtnission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University
Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, September 24, 1950 in the Council Chamber
at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of: .
Consideration of a Pro�osed Preliminary Plat, P.S. �80-02,
Registered Land Survey, by the Minnesota Transfer Railway
Company, being a replat of Parcel 4800 described as:
The Northeast Quarter of the Southwest Quarter, except
the East one hundred fifty (150) feet thereof;
The North fifty (50) feet of the Southeast Quarter of
the Southwest Quarter lying West of the East one hundred
fifty (150) feet thereof.
All lying in the South Half of Section ll, T-30, R-24,
City of Fridley, County of Anoka, Minnesota.
Generaily located along the University Avenue East
Service Drive and 73rd Avenue N.E.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be be given an opportunity
at the above stated time and place.
RICHARD H. HARRIS
CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Publish: September 10, 1980
5eptember 17> 1980
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CITY OF FRIDI.EY MINNESOTA
PLANNING AND ZONING FORM
NUMBER •���� v The Minnesota Tranefer aailway Co.
APPLICANT'S SIGNATURE
Chief Engineer
Address 2071 IIniversity Aveuue, St. Paul, MN 55104
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TYPE OF REQUEST
Rezoning
Special Use Permit
Telephone Number 646-9623 Approval of Premin-
The Minneaots Tranefer Railway Co. inary $ Final Plat I
PROPERTY OPINER'S SIGNATUR�� ChieP Engineer Streets or Alley
Vacations
Address 2071 IIniveraitq A enue, t. Paul, MN 55104
Other
Telephone Number 646-9623 �
East of S.T.Fi. Ho. 47 and Fee �1d Receipt No. /0 9 �
Street Location of Property swth oP 73rd Avezcue N.E.
Legal Description of Property See attaehed "Deacription o3 Propert�".
Present Zoning Classification M2 Existing Use of Property IIndeveloped
Acreage of Property 36.67 Describe briefly the proposed zoning classificatior,
or type of use and improvement proposed Registersd Land Survey of properiy ia
required in order to record deeda for conveysnce oY property.
Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or
variance or specia2 use permit on the subject site or part of it?_�es x no.
N'hat was requested and when?
The undersigned understands that: (a) a list of all residents and owners of property
within 300 feet (350 feet for rezoning) must be attached to this application.
(b) This application must be signed by all owners of the property, or an explanation
given why this is not the case. {c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings
resulting from the failure to list the names and addresses of all residents and
property owners of property in question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the
following: 1. North Direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setbacks.
4. Street idames. 5. Location and use of adjacent existino buildings (within 300 feet;
The undersigned�hereby declares that all the facts and representations stated in this
application are true and correct. •
Date Filed
Date of Hearing
Planning Commission Approved
(dates) Denied_
City Council Approved
(dates) Denied
"DESCRIPTION OF PROPERTIf"
The Northeast Quarter (NE �� of the Southwest Qnarter
(SW �), except the East one hundred fiYty (15a) Yeet
thereoY.
The North fiYty (50) Peet ot the 5outheast Quarter (SE �}
oi the Southwest Quarter (SW 4) lqing VPeat oP the Egst
one hundred PiYty (150) feet thereof.
Section 11, Townehip 30 North, Range 24 Weat, according
to the map or plat thereof on file and of record in the
Otiice oP the Regiater of Deeda in attd Por the County oY
Anoka snd State.oY Minnesota.
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MAILING LIST
P.S. #80-02, Registered Land Survey
Minnesota Transfer Railway Company
John 3ensen, Chief Engineer
Minnesota Tranfer Railway Co
2071 University Avenue
St. Paul, Mn 55104
Anoka County Auditor
Anoka County Court House
Anoka, MN 55303
Carter Day Company
500 73rd Avenue N
Fridley, Mn 55432
Paco, Inc.
Gerald W. Paschke
5920 Kirkwood Lane
Plymouth, Mn 55422
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Planning Commission 9-10-80
City Council
Mr. & Mrs. Danid Thiele
7310 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Clifford Boltman
7301 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. Robert T. Wienert
E , 7311 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Rice Creek Assor, II
attn: David Harris
6279 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Grace Evangelical Free Church Parish
7311 Symphony Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. 3ames Warhol
7321 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55"32
Mr. & Mrs. Richard Almstead, Jr.
7311 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Garvey Benson
7301 Tempo Terrace N"E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. James 0: Bergerson
7320 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. James Holmen
7310 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. Wallaca Olson
7320 Lyric Lane N.E.
�ridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Earl Nobte
7310 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Allan Quam
399 73rd Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Phillip Knutson
7301 Symphony Street N.E.
Fridley, Mtt 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Bradley Ertl
7321 Symphony 5tr.get N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Ronald Mattson
7324 Symphony Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Edward Czarnecki
7312 Symphony Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. James Sandquist
730Q Symphony Street N.E.
Fridley> Mn 55432
Mr, & Mrs. Ronald Pillard
7301 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
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P.S. #80-02, Registered Land Survgy
Mr. & Mrs. Michael Chies
7313 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432'
Mr. & Mrs. Earland Thor
7325 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. David Winmeier
7300 Concerto Curve N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. David Lissner
7301 Melody Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Ms. Mary J. Swanson
7311 Melody Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Jack Green
7320 Melody Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Gerald Dahl
7310 Melody Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Terry Thiele
7300 Melody Drive N.E.
Frid7ey, Mrr 55432
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20T7UNIVERSITYAVE, • ST.PAUI,MiNN. 55704
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August 19, 19II0
MEJ�iORl�NDUM
T0: MR. NAS1�4 M. QURESHI, CITY MANAGER
FROM:
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JOHPa L. JENSFFI, CHIEF ENGINEER
MINNESOTA TRA,fdSFER RAILIJAY
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MINNESOTA TRF.IdSFER PRUPERTY IM THE CITY OF FRIDLEY BETldEEN
HIGHWAY 65 AND HIGHWAY 47 AND LYiNu SOUTH OF 73RD AVENUE
The 29 ac�e piece of property lying tc the west of Carter Day
will �e �!?eded to the Chicago Northwc::tr:r Transportation Compdny.
I would suggest you refer interested Garties in this property
to htr. �;m heidkamp, located in the St. Paul office.
The 2.h5 acre parcel of properi;y at the corner of 73rd and the
University Avenue fr•ontage road will be dee�ed to the Soo Line,
and reference for this property should be•made to Mr. Jim Tracy
located in the Minneapolis office. '
The appi•oximately 49 acre parcel of property lying to the east
af Carter Day will be deeded jointly to the Chicago Milwau4;ee
Railroad and to the Rock Island. Reference for this property
should be made to P1r. Bill Bobbitt.
JLJ/ros
Nr. Jim Heidkainp
Chicago & hortheaestern
Transportation Company
275 East 4th Street
St. Paul, P1N 55101
221-9204
Mr. J. J. Tracy
Asst. Director of
Real Es.tate
Soo Line Railroad Co.
P.O. Box 530
Mpls., MN 55440
332-12G1
Mr. [3. H, Qobbitt
Asst. Vice President,
Property P1ana9ement
Union Statio7
Chicago, IL 6060G
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PU6LIC H[ARING
BEFORE THE
PLANIJINr, COIdMISSION
Notice is hereb�� given that there will be a Pubiic Hearing of the
Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431
University Avem!e Northeast on tJednesday, 5eptember 24, 1980.
in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of:
Consideration of a request for a Special
Use Permit, SP #80-10, by Marjorie F. Coulson,
per Section 205.051, 2, A, of the Fridley City
Code, to allow the construction of a second
accessory building, a 24 ft. by 26 ft. detached
garage, to be located on Lot 8, 31ock 2,
Meadowlands Addition, the same being 811
Mississippi Street Y.E., fridley, Minnesota.
Any and a11 persons desiring to be heard shall be 9iven an.opportunity
at the above stated time and place.
RICHARD N. HARRIS
CHAIRMAN
PIANNIN6 COMMISSION
Publish: September 10, 1980
September U, 19E0
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APPLICANT'S SIGNATURF.. �pA,�S�',�h, y , � o���a„�
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Address _ � \\ �cn �: r,;_ ,�;_, ,�h,_ .�U �.
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PROPERTY ONNER'S SIGNATURE
Address
Telephone Number
Street Location of Property
Legal Qescription of Proper
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7'YPE OF REQUF.ST
Rezoning
L�Special Use PermiE
Approval of Premin-
inary Fr Final Plat
Streets or Alley
Vacations
Other
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Present Zoning Classification Existing Use of Property
Acreage of Property Describe briefly the proposed zoning classification
or type of use and improvement proposed �-y���;� a��r�c.�..�
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Has the presen: ap,�licant previously sought :o.rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or
variance or speci.:l use permit on the subject �ite or part of it? yes no.
1Vhat was requested and when?
The undersigned understands that: (a) a list of a11 residents and owners of progerty
within 30� feet (350 feet'for rezoning) must be attached to this application.
(b) This application must be signed bp all owners of the property, �r an e.xplanation
given why this is not the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings
resulting from the failnre to list ttie names and addresses of all residents and
property owners of property in question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be dravm and attached, showing the �-
following: 1. North Direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lot. '
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side set6acks,
4. Street Names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 300 feetl. !
The undersigned hereby declares that all the facts and representations stated in this
application are true and correct.
DATE
Date Filed
S:GNATURE �Cl� q�a�, C^ • C o V QRO cR.
(AYYLIC JT)
Date of Hearing
Planning Commission Approved City Council Approved
(dates) Denied (dates) Denied
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SP #80-10, Marjorie f. Coulson
2nd accessory building
Marjorie F. Coulson
811 Mississippi Street
Fridley> Mn 55432
Planning Comnission 9-10-80
City Council
Mr. & Mrs. Richard Zegland
N.E. 841 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. John Anderson
831 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Raymond Hartley
821 66th Avenue N.E. .
fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. LeRoy Schreifels
811 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Charles Mann
6611 Jackson Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 �
Mr. John Leschisin, Jr.
Eh0 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mark Miller
830 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Sandia A.
830 66th
Frid}ey,
Mr. James
820 66th
Fri�ley,
Martha L. and Dale A. Johnson
851 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Vernon Gustafson
871 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley> Mn 55432
Mr. & �4rs. Stephen Baker
775 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Dennis Smolich
?E3 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Clement Neuerberg
6598 Clover Place N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. P,ichard Scholl
6524 Jackson Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Pertinen Mr. & Mrs. Ronald Scrimshaw
Avenue N.E. 6520 Jackson Street N.E.
Mn �5432 Fridley, Mn 55432
G. Buechler Mr. & Mrs. James Kelly
Avenue N.E. 840 Mississippi Street N.E.
Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Wayne Ek
810 66th Avenue N.E.
Frid}ey, Mn 5543G
Ce.lestine & Florette Neisius
821 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. Jerome B. 6ravelle
831 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley> Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Jerame Polke
820 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Russell Gerhard
810 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
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Minnesofia Pollufiion Contro! Agency
Mr. Fiichael J. Perlsins
Corp. Facilities Director
Medtronics, Inc.
3055 Old Highway Eight
P.O. Box 1453
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55418
Dear Mr. Perkins:
September 9, 1980
Pursuant to our meeting September 4, 1980 I am sending this .
letter to confirm the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency°s
(MPCA) approval for Medtronics to proceed with plans to place
an asphalt parking lot on the Company's east Rice Creek property
(parcel 8700). The placement of this parking lot is unrestricted;
however, the plans and specifications must be approved as
stated in the August 18, 1980 letter to the Company.
The Agency
8700, 6600
considers that the contamination of all sites (parcels
and Onan's site) resulted from the operations of
one pole treating compan
the area must wait uncil
from all sites. The data
the east property show le
permit construction of a
only a slight risk exists
ground
y. The final, mitigative measures fr�r
sufficient "_'nformation is gathered
from Medtronics' investiqation of
vels of contamination low enough to
parking lot with the understanding that
for future remedial actions to protect
waker. The Agency staff have evaluated the site and feel
there is a low probability that some soils would have to be
zemove8 at a later date.
ASPCA staff are prepared to meet with the Company, architect and
a representative from the Rice Creek Watershed District on
September 16, 1980 at 1:30 p.m.
If you have any questions please feel free to call me at
295-7239.
Sincerely, .�
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Terrance W. Kasen, MPH
Environmental Scientist
�nforcement Section
Division of water Quality
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7935 West County Road B2, Roseville, Minnesota 55113
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t4edtronic/Onan Creosote Problem
We are in receipt of a le±ter from the Mir.nesota Pollution Controi Ags�cy
�ddressing the Medtronics preposal to construct on the�r portion of p?'op2?'t;/
�ast o° old Central an add�tional building and parking 3ot> �dPCu Nror•ides
certa9n stipulations to their construction. The items i:hat directly app7y_
io t6e City ar2:
Aqy dewatering,.of the ground «ater and dispc,sai into the wastewzter co'!;ecti�n
system. �
7he loca±��n and plans and specifications of the parking lot.
The reguirement that all wells remain in place.
The statement be includad in the tit7e and tax records on future sales.
-In sununary, 1�!PCA is authorizing the progress for ptanning consiract9on on �he
N�edt�ohics property, but are requir�r,g that portion o;" tf,e �rooerty ;vhi�h parai—
'lels the Minnesota Transf�r Railway to remair �n "as is" cor.ditici as m�c� as
possik�le, at lea;t uniil such tima as additional �nformation is receiv�d on the
quantities and acceptable levels for the various PH compour�ds wnich have .heen
found in the soil.
In this analysis, MPC?: is c�erdit�atin9 with ather creosote operatiorts v�ithin
the�state to determine leve7s of acce�tability and also poss�ible correcL-ine
actions which may be required.
We are contin�+ino to work ivith Fiedtrcnics 311� assis� +_ham in their endeavor
io construct additional facilities in Fridley. -
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Mr. Michael J. Perkins
Corgorate Facilities Director
Medtronics, Inc.
3055 Ol�? ::=7»�� =1 �=5�=�
P.O. Box 1453 � •
Mi.nneapolis, ,iinnesota 55418
Dear *3r. Perkins:
August 28, 2980
This letter serves to acknoc,ledge *_he *1ir.nesota Yollution Control
Agency's (::PCa) receipt o� tne report on the soil and greun��
water iavestigations condu�te3 on the east side of :•iedtronic's
itice Cree1 property. This property is located in the City of .
Fridley, S�.�tn 1/?, Section 12, Towa.�ni� 30, P,an7e 24, Parcel
87D0 (hereir3G�ter reierred to as th� "site"). This repo�t,
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pzeoared by Envi.ronr.:ental E.^.gir___::-r, __ = ..-.c-:;=.:.--- ,
*�rnV].C12C1 infornation �on tri0 concerns LO �LI30 P1YLH. OIIE ,t'^^rcrn � c
the examination 0= 5012 2:].a. g_ound wa�er for contar�.:nants L:18t
would prohibit :ied�ron_cs `rc-� constre:cting new �aci? ities o:= t;e
site. Anotner co:.cern is c.he�ner anv nitigative measures r.eed to
be taken to alleviate exis�ing pollution sources.
The hIPC:,, staff have reviewed the repor� and have the following
coirszents on the stated iin ' s o£ the re�ort:
�� �.. The staff believe there 3I"8 �°iTn� g nF Ln,1?gnQl S�
PCP and PAH comoour.ds in tne soils suah that so;^e
� � areas of the site would be considerad cont�s:inated.
' 2. There is no ?nfornation nrovided in this report
that would indicate she soils on th� site did not
have concentra�ions oi �•:oo� oreserving coc.^.povnds that
were differeat than the surro�.cing native surface
soils. P+o soil guality data vras supplied of off-site
native soils. � '
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1935 titi'est Cou�ty Head �i2. Roseville. bti:inesota 551 t3
Regiooal Oilices • QuWthrCn�lerd.Octro�4Lal.estt.7arsnall;Aochesl°r
.! Equai Oppoiwa�ly Em;.ioy�•r .
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3, There is insufficient data.provided in the
' xepori to state prebabilities of do�m;ard ^tigration
of water from the site.
q„ Zrrespective of �the cor�parison �of concentrations
of contaminants fou:,d on !•:edt�ronics and Onzn properties,
contaminants were found on .,_d_ronic's nroperties suc?i
that some mitigative neasures nay be necessary.
In response to the stated oginions o� the report, the i4PCA sta`f
believe that concent_atioas of PC?, phenols, and suspected
Carcinogenic PAH conaounds near soil borings 1, 2, 3. 11 and li
are at a 1eve1 �•r'nich r.iay requize :aitigative neasures to preven�
�� f:�� ���;.y a sc�:rce of gsound WdL2L contaanination.
After reviewing the prelir�inaYy in`_ornation provided on the lo=ation
of the proposed new i•iedtrcnic`s buildings and the information .
contained in the reoort, t::e �IPCA gives conditional zpproval €ar the
construction of these buildiags. �his ao�roval is conditioned on the
following infor;nation beiag provided concerning tnis construction:
, Z, An evaluation o° any past pole treating activities
and soil cuality arour.d soil 5oring r.u:r.bez 17. An
additional soil borinq shall be co::posi:.°d at °25�',L foot -
intervais for anal.�sis. The anal::sis szall be for PCP,_
phenols snd P�H co:igou, ds. :? 1 �;:i co:nPoun3s tested for
S,:1a f 1. no ycncPr.r.fi , . . . .. .
2, Plans and Specifieations of the proposed new
•buildings shall be reviee,ed by �he i?PCA to allow for
evaivation of possible i:lpact on ground wat�r or niticative
measures that �ay be necessary. 5pecific concerns which
� shall be acidressed in the planninry of these buildings are:
a, Ground t'ater De�vatering Activities '
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� The exoected time and rate of ground Water
pumping for structures such as elevator shafts,
footir.gs and tunael excavatioa. The City of
Fridley shall be contacte3 for disposal of this
ground water to the �aastecaater collection system.
� b. �Excavated Soil ' .
� The amount of soil to be escavated and its
placement sha21 be noted. If this material is to
be spread over portioas of the site, �he depths
and locations sha11 be indicate3 on a map of the
• site. •
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C. Buil.dinq Flacemer.t
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. The exact placenent of the pr000sed bui2dings
sha21 be shoorn, to scaZe, on a map. Building �lans
shall indicate soecific ty?es o� construction
; techniques, that is, any pilincs, subsurface
structures, footings, or elevator sha£ts.
d. Excavation
2f during excavation any unusual naterials,
such as heavily conta.�inated soils, ara�foun3 the
MPCA is to be notified in�ediately. .
The areas and Ievels of soil contar..ination as cite3 in the EE+f report
indicate so*�e nitigative r.!easures may have to be taken to protect thz
ground water resource. Given P:edtronics urgency in proceecir.q :�:ith
Constructioa, the :iPCd recotr�er.cs all excaeatzd soils be pLacec
uniformly over an area of the site.parallel to �no'.{a County Higr:aay
iI. It is a2so reco;n,:.eaded that this s�;me a=ea be utilized for th�
proposed partiing 10�. These secor.ianded ar�as are indicate3 on the•
enclose3 map. These soils shall not �over areas paralle2 with the
Minnesota Transfer Railway Co�oany tracks (-aells 1, 3, 11, I3, ann
25) . . •
The iollowin� �rp con�iitions of placenent of a parking lot o�-er the
area:
a. Plans and Specificatiens of the arogosed na:?:ing
"fot must be approved by tna :IPCA be�ore cons�ruction
begins. Plans saall inclu3e gra�e, subgrade nate=ials,
`surface naterials, that is asphalt or concrete. Th�
plan shall include measures �o pzeven� lateral .
infiltrati.on of *.vater frc:� the neri�eter o: the oarking
' lot., as well as control of runoff fro:n the parking lot �
it&elf.
� Al1 �*,onitoring wells must remain in place, If any
canstruction necessitates renoval of any wells the �:PCA
shall be nctified prior to its renoval.
�c,_. A stateraent :�ust be place3 on the title and tax
records o� this parcel of land explainir.q that this lan8 _
may not be sold or buiit upon caithout P:PCA approval,
The MPC� expects to receive fro:,i:fedtronics a renort on the eYtent of
soil and ground �•�ater conta�iaation �ahich nav exist on the Piedtronic's
west properties (parcel u600). Svhen t:�is report is received and
revie<<�ed the possible mitigative t^easures s»ich may be recuired ior
h0::11 C=iSf: :1_^.C3 �•iCSt. T�TO� CYi.i�?S �Jl� 1�j@ U2; CUS5�2C� 2Jc.'lt-c�:cen �:lc? ::?�;.i :.:1�
D9edtronics.
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If you have any questions, please feel free to contack me at the
number sho:an above.
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Environmental Scientist
Enforcement Section '
Division of Water Quality
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Enclosure
cc: Cary Perket, P.E., Environnental Engineering and rlanagement,
Ltd., riinneapolis • �
' John Greene, Boise Cascade Corporation, Boise, Idaho
J. Kirk Sullivan, Boise Cascade Corporation, Boise, Idaho
John Flora, Director of Public iriorks, City of Fridley
2iagir+ A±. �ureshi, �it1 t•Ianager, C�ty of Fridley
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CITY AF FRIDLEY MINNESOTA
PLANNING AND ZONING FaRM
NUMBER �� �O O�(
APPLICAN'f'S SIGNAT E
Address QD /d
Telephone Number � � �� ���
PROPERTY OWNER'S SIGNATURE
Address
Telephone Number
Street Location of Property
Legal Description of Property _
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TYPE OF REQUEST
Rezoning
Special Use Permit
Approva2 af Premin-
inary $ Final Plat
�_ Streets or Al1ey
Vacations
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Fee eceipt No.
Present Zoning Classification Existing Use of Property
Acreage of Property Describe briefly the proposed zoning classificatio�
or type of use and improvement proposed !/G� ����j' --'T �A'J
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Has the presenL applicant previousiy sought to rezone, plat, obtain`a'1at split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? yes no.
What was requested and when?
The undersigned understands that: (a) a list of all residents and owners of property
within 300 feet (350 feet for rezoning) must be attached to this applicaYion.
(b) Tt2is application must be signed by ali owners of the property, or an explanation
given why this is not the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings
resulting from the failure to list the names and addresses of all residents and
property owners of property in question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the
fol2owing: 1. North Direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setbacks.
4. Street Names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 300 feet)
The undersigned hereby declares that all he facts and representations stated in this
application ar true and correct.
DATE ` SIGNATUR
fA PLICANTI
Date Filed Date o� Heari
Planning Commission Approved City Council Approved
(dates) Denied (dates) Denied
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CITY OP FP.IDLBY
PETITION C�VER SHLET
Petition No. 8-1980
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Date Received September 9, 1980
oojecc lfacate alley easement: Block 7, Hyde Park, lots 1-30
Petition Checked By Date
Percent Signing ��J(J �o
Referred to City Council
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We, the undersigned, petition the City �Vacate the alley easement in Block 7,
Hyde Park. We understand that if we have 100% agreement on this petition,
the City will waive the fee of $125.00.
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CI1'Y OF FRIDLEY MINNESOTA •
R PLANNING AND ZONING FORM
, ' NUMIiER ��� �D��d
APPLFCMt'f'S SIGNATURE R:,cY�nd Inl•�t�j�,_
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PROPERTY OWNER'S S=GNATURE
Address
Telephone Number
Street Location of Property "/ ��
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TYYE OF REQUEST
Rezoning
Special Use Permif
Approval of Premin-
inary F, Final Plat
�_ Streets or Alley
Vacations
Other,lk /_fJ
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Fe�e //"' Rece' No. `
Legal Description of Property �"� � i �-��Z% �� �'rC�� ���"�
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Present Zoning Classification-� ' l F�cisting Use of Property �-w�/l��-�
Acreage of Property Describe briefly the proposed zoning classification
or type of use and improvement
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Has t e present -a�licant p ev" u
variance or special use permit on
What was requested and when?_�
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t ta aezone, plat, obtain a lot split or
ect site or part of it?�es no.
The undersigned understands that: (a) a list of all residents and owners of property
within 300 feet (350 feet'for rezoning) must be attached to this application.
(b) '1'his application must be signed by all owners of the property, or an explanation
given why this is not the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings
resulting from the failure to list the names and addresses of all residents and
property owners of property in question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the '
foilowing: 1. North Direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setbacks. .
4. Street Names. S. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 300 feet).
The undersigned hereby declares that all the facts and representations stated in this
application are true and correct. •
DATE 9 �q/4o SIGNATURE�`�,.n..�3 � t,�a4� - -
(AFPLICADiT)
Date Filed Date of Hearing
Planning Commission Approved City Council Approved
(dates) Denied (datcs) Denied
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EASEMENT VACATION
The north l foot of the south 12.00 feet of that par
Hillcrest, according to the recorded plat thereof on
in the office of the County Recorder in and for said
sota, lying east of the following described line:
t of Lot 9, Block 2,
file and of record
Anoka County> Minne-
Beginning at a point on the south line of said Lot 9, distant 20.00 feet
easterly along said south line from the northwest corner of Lot 2, Block 1,
Ostman's Third Addition; thence north 2 degrees 40 minutes 03 seconds east
20.00 feet; thence northwesterly on a tangentiai curve to the left having a
radius of 134.69 feet, delta angle of 20 degrees 40 minutes 03 seconds
48.58 feet; thence north 18 degrees 00 minutes west tangent to said curve
11.16 feet; thence northerly on a tangential curve ta the right having a
radius of 135.94 feet, delta angle of 43 degrees O1 minutes 17 seconds a dis-
tance of 102.07 feet to the easterly line of Hillcrest Avenue and there ter-
minating. �
For purposes of this description the south line of said Lot 9 is assumed to
have a bearing of south 87 degrees 19 minutes 57 seconds east.
ERCEPT the east 140.00 feet thereof.
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�h�i?-�e..r^on `Preuenfels callel the Se?aten:ber 4, 193Q, Human �esources
Co:.,r:ission n�.eetinP; to order �.t 7�3.� P....
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:e.-�bers Present:
::e;nbers �bsent:
Others Present:
Peter '"i'reuenfels, _.�ry van Dan, Jayne PJoble
;�3y:�e .Jelch, :1a;,me .�aunders
9nne;•:ar.shall, Alex3ndr� riouse
Lee Carlson, �entr�l ^,enter for r'a.ily itesources
t1P°.2JV'�L 0? �rT�i� ?6, 1980� :-I'J::'.1.'1 ?�SOJ i��� C0.•::,:ISSIOid .::Ilvu`1'�S:
.::OTiO.: by �;�. van D�x�, secondede3 by �=s. i�loble, to approve the
June 2b, 19�0, Hu`'.axi Zesources Go:ar:,ission �..inutes as :vritten.
u�on a voice vote, all votir.; aye, �hairperson �1'reuenfels declared
the r.,otion c�rried un��i;;:ousl;�.
1. DIS�JS�I�;� ?ud� i:'�id'r:I'it,^, OI' rutiJli�� P=,O°OSt�LS R���I'd3�s
�. ; en �ral �enter for i a:,ily R�S.JUZ'C?S
"a. Carlson �ave to the Co:::r�ission :::es:bers a cony of a bar
{_',I'�3.T,.7I3� �'12J1.C�.1I1?y 'L}18 ri�.Zi,:2JBT' Of Cl.l.@'CS't8 CO:.lri`."-.81?C� t1;,J 3.�';0.
{�ee '-.t.�i.:iC:1i`,B1�i.) She f'UY''"i.;lA:^ ��;�137.71@l� r ttl.'i� Oi7 T?3 �A ?� Of
t:le :?in pro�osa]. (See Attach^,:ent), they have ��j of cli�nt
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f�.:°:iles, �nd a;o of contri�u �ions, ai:d a;� of participation
by� cities. She 5tatad that they : ope to hei.� clients so
th��; they would not be dependent on counselin; f�rever, b�it
to "elp ther.: find their co�inn sl:ills, �.�d �a.rer.iin; s,�ill.
5he �i:�ted that they do foc�:s, on �re-crisis, oat that the;�
do see aeo_�le in crisis. She st�.ted that the ,^os� of p�y�ho-
therapy in the nrivaie sector, are nov� running bet��aeen Y50.00
to j7>.OQ per haur. She st,.ted that .c.ost peonle will no;, seei�
nelp �t t.z?t cost, unles^ ti:^;� have e-.celle:�� �nsurance, c^
a.^P �n dir� distress. She =ta�ed that therefore, she feels
th�.t the,y ar.e �e�lly nroviflir.;; � servi�e for �o::_e oeo;qle,
�vi:o other�,vise �.<<ould not ~eceii�e thie service.
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?:is ��^lson ���:t�d th�t the�r :��ve s�:.b it:ed ,� Tr�nt �sequ. to
the �nited �����>s. 5`�e st?ta3 +�;at they� 4vare �*�uroved th~c�i:�.z
t;,,e stxbco,.,r_t��ee level, �.nd t�;en Gvere denied in the last roz.��i.
S:�?e st�.�ec? 'i,h�t she felt tiiZt the°r ;:ay '�ave beer. prior_ti7eu
lo�:•rer Uer.zuse they could not co rlete their certified �udit
'�y the .r.e�u�cte3 ti .e the :J:lite��.~,;-�ys h^�d �iven the:. �he
st�te�l th�t �?ie;� were encourr?:;ed to resub�!it fo^ the next
iiU ,nr; z^>ou^c�.s �o:.:z��szori �`:��r�;.�r;� 4, 1��� P��T 2
coc^in� ye3r. She �ur�ther sta.ted th3t they have also resub;itted
to the st�te of ::inne�ote,, �eote;r:ber 7,1980. .;he stated that
there �r.e letters of resolu�ion in sunnort of ihe �;r�nt for
the �entr.al :.e»ter f.or. F8„111;% -�2SOU�'CP.3� for the gran+ from
�;he 5ta.te. �he further st-�.:ed that it vrould be nice �o h�ve
a si�ilar lett�r, f„o� the .ity of :ridley. She stated that
she is slso ver.y h=,.pay to ha.ve �eventy peo�le pa.rticipatin�
in the parentin� pr.oR.ra°:. She stated th�.t the3� have three
cla�ses off�red a;cain this ?a11, of v,hich the first class is
zlready filled, and the� h?ve nine people in the sscon3 class.
She st�.ted th.at �ne cla.ss size is lir,.ited to sixteen people
ner class ses�ion. She st3ted th3t they are �vor:�ing hard at
tryin� to �oo^dinate �vitn other. �gencys.' She s'tated th^�t
ttief re�Zly need �the fundir.n £ro:;i the �ity of ?ridley, aazd
that if it is not forth-co:sin�, tYtey .vould be in serious
trouble co,_e J�nusr.y 1. �
Mr. Treuenfels explainefl to Ms. Carlson that this was just the
first step in their request for funding. He stated that this
Commission would make their recommendation to the Planning
Commission, who in turn would make a recommendation to the City
Council. The Council will make the final decision on who, and
how much would be funded.
B. Alexandra House
::�s. 9r.ne: :.arehall, introduced he.r�elf, a,nd stated that she
is an �dvacate at the alpsand�3 �Iouse. .s. .:a.rshall e�cnl�ined
th�t an advocste Roes vrith the �vo�an ?nd tries to stand
besid.e her �nd open d.00?�s for the woman �vno feeZs that she
can't o^ doesn't h�ve the :.nowledge to do for herself. :ine
stated tha't �,n advoc�te�is 7-iYe �n o�:bads�:an. ..s. ...�.rsnn.11
stated that .AZ�v�ndra :�ous� o�e:�ed ;pril ?_ist, and th�.t
!^�.^-.s on a. :onda_y, 3nd �y `ihursd^y they ;vere fu11, nnd h�ve
re*..,^.ined full. "�ne fur�ner �t�.ted th�t the pro�o;�l t'r.at
they are ^�ivir.�; to th� :;it;• of P'ridle�, is not specific�lly
for the shelter. She �t�ted th�.t th4 i_�.port:,n't thing is to
�;et the issue out into the co-,,:unity, and :,a:.e the co:.,unit;�
acr?.re of th� nroble,�. She stated that for �his reason the;•
h�ve a.sY.ed for funding to h2ve a fi1-: ,present�.'cion done pro-
f.srzon.ally, '3ne st^ted that it is very i.:,port�,nt th�.t the
issue be brou�h.t out into the o;�en, because v�ives> and the
children rai11 not �s1'c .lbout it, �nd so therefore it is very
r.iaaPn. _
r. 'Treuen°�ls stated tha.t ne felt th�t :.':�. .,^rshzll �.ras
VP,?^V 07>�1:"'2S.i.].C� i)C�C'"'.L1�P. "!ltr: 'tEZ2Vlsion h° :it1't@C� tt'12 �V2Y"tt';t?
chiZd hzs �ee�z quz':e z lot of violAnce, 1'.e �t�.ted t"at �.�ith
tY:e influence tiI�e tel.evi�iori is ^ivin� toe,��,r.d violence, he
�v�nderpd. �f � fzl:� on zbu^n �vould have anz- i:par.t in correctinR
this or.oble�. s. ..arsh��ll �tated that this w�-�s �� toPic �hat
could� be dea2t �vith in the fil�n to the co :���nity.
�.'J�._..��:,il'1� ��' �i�7.1::� ''.7 i0 �Y�7_^�>I�i�f r.^P�l'r� �:3'.tiri �.�i' j.9�0 ��tiCi:� 3 _.�
?_.
..s. VanDan stated th�t she felt that it would be ver.y ianortant
for the;;. to �et a re�lly rood scrirt writer.
;;s. ..i?._rshzll st?.ted that yes tha'� would be true, but tha't the
input c�us't co::�e £rorl the co ..��unity itself.
s. V�nDan stated tha.t «;�n;� neople have no exposure to the
abusin.� situation, so that they a_r� unaware oi the proble:_.
C. S.'1.C.A.
See Atta.ch,ent.
�hair-+a.n lreuenfels st�ted that at this point he felt that
it ti�rould be bect to nsve the �o�,r?ssion o-o throu7h their
'Nuidalines :�or Se�tin�; Priorities of Fundinn :eauests'
�yd they could �o �hr_ou;;h thP? *_- o�rm nerson�l £u�ding ra.tin�s,
an�i �hen a.verz�;e the�, for a. Co���rission reco��^ended r�tin�.
i�'18 .".0='+`715510T1 after serio�.zs delibe!°a.tions, and 0V3�-�l3tlOri
of the cri�er��, �;�ve the fo11o�^rir.f; scorinA:
�ent^al ��:�ter for Fa:;;i1J =;eso�::~ces - 8J points
5.9.�. ^,. - 77 '�oirts
:'�les� �ndra. �touse - 7� Point�,
arisFVered thst could le^,d to
with questions sti11 ur.-
a nossible ch?n;e in s�orin�.
::O�=I�:V h�T .:s. 'Ia�,� D�n, se�ondad by ::s. iVoble for, these �'_^ures
to be sub:.!itted �o �he P1a;'�ninn �o::r::ission for i.R81Y' consid-
er.ation, in nriorit� ran.�i-r_R for fundin�s
�entT'3�- 'v'0:1�"i.@Y' fo!' F? .ily .�.2�OL1rCE.'S� 80 points
5. A. C. 4. , ?7 '�oints
Ale�candr���ouse, ?� points, wivh ^eservations and question�
un.ans4aer.ed that coLtld lea3 to ��ossible cn:n�e in scoi'lk1r;.
J�on a voice vote, all vo�in; aye, �hair:z_�,� 1'reuenfels, decl.�red
the .:o �ion nsssed un�ni::�oo.e? y.
i��:iv
:s. 'I�n ��n ^t?.ted th�t 1-�st �Te�� w�.s the 'Interna�ion�l�e�r oi
i}12 V}ll?G�� r 1'.�1P, v0!"?�:1^S10I1 '1'd.(i° ^7; PiiO.'.'t t0 5c^�.E.' l.f ��Y`iB2'0 \VA.�`
so�et'r�ii.m thzt tl:°„ could do to involve t'°;e :e. ber.- of the ::u�an
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T�one.
ADJOJ ";+ '.�?�"i :
0`i.'IDi' hy .;s. �Ioble, seconded by :.s. `Jan�an, to adjou.rn the ::,eetin�;.
Unon �. voice vote, �.].1 votin� a.ye, Ch.t,irperson 'Preuenfel�, declared
the �ent��:ber. 1'-, 19f30, Hu•::�n ::esou,-ces �o:�.i^sion ��eetin� adjourned
at 10:00 D.�.
`:espectf:illy sub�:aitt �
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E2aine ;t. ::eed
:',ecord.in� Secret�.ry
`TI
' NUMBER OF CLIENTS
COUNSELED BY AGE -
6 Month Period, October-1979-April 1, 1980
3 Agencies
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Represents approx. 'JO°lo
of counseling sessions
provided subsizided by
Anoka County.
North Suburban Family
Service
(276 client families
1040 sessions)
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a
100% counseling b% subsidized by Anoka
subsidized by Anoka County (73% of referrals
County from Anoka County)
(United Way)
Central Center for Family
Lutheran Social Resources
Service-Circle
Pines (90 client families
470 sessions� Does not
(69 client families include group counselino
618 sessions}
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City of Fridley
APDEALS CONAlISSION �- SEPTEMBER 16, 1980 � Page 1
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the Appeals Comnission �eting of Septemb�r 16, 1980
to order at 7:30 p.m.
ImLL CALL:
Members Present: Virginia Schnabel, Jim Plemel, Patricia Gabel, Alex Barna
Members Absent:
Dick Kemper
Others Present:
Darrel Clark, Chief Building Official
APPROVE APPEALS COMMISSEON MINUTES: AUG[7ST 26, 1950
MOTION by Mr. Barna, se'conded by Mr. Plemel, that the Appeals Commission
minutes of August 26, 1980 be approved as written. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL
VOTING AYE, CHAIR`AOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. REQUEST FOR VARIANCES PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY.CITY CODE TO
RFDUGE THE REAR YARD SETBACK FFOM THE REO�IRED 25 FEET�TO 2�FEET TO
ALIAL� THE ENCLOSURE OF A LOADING DOCK WHICH SQILL II�CREASE THE LOT COVERnrF
OF THE bIAIN BUILDING FROP4 TAE AfA:SZt1LT1 COV�'RAGr; OF '9 5°- to 47% ON � IATS 3,
4, 5, 6 '*"�"8 AND 9 BLOCK 6 OIdA'AAY ADDITION THE SAbfE BEING 7740 BSECH
STREET N.E. (Request by Viking Engineering and Development, 7740 Beecn
Street N.E., E'ridley, Minnesota 55432).
Robert Wenner, 10561-102nd Place, Maple Grove, and Jim Tharp, 7740 Beech Street
NE� were present to represent Viking Engineering and Development.
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Plemel, to open the public hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL�VOTING�AYE, CHAIRWOMA27 SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 7:35 P.M. � �
Chairwaman Schnabel read the Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVE�STAFF REPORT
7740 Beech Street N.E.
A. $UB�,IC�PUR?OSE SERVED BY REnUIREMENT:
Section 205.134� 4C� requires a rear yard depth of not less than 25 feet�
witfi an additional foot of rear yard depth for each 4 feet or portion o£
building height over 35 feet.
Public pUrpose served by this requirement is to provide adequate open
space around industrial structures for aesthetic and fire fighting purposes.
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Section 205,134, 3A, requires a lnaximum lat coverage of 39-1/2 percent for
a eingle story building plus all accessory Iruildings on a lot.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide for adequate
parking� open landscaped areas, and to limit con9estion of industrial areas
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
The vaziances are needed to allow the loading dock to be covered. This is
for tfie safety of the personnel while loading and unloading, dt�ring tfie
winter ancl in rainy weather� witfi automated pallet equipment.
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT:
The structure, if constructed at 2 feet off the property line, would have
to be one hour fire resistive constructicn and could not have any openings
in the wall adjacent to the lot line. This is the reauirement of the State
Suilding Code. The building would have to be 10 or more feet from the lot
line if not constructed to the 1 hour specifications.
Witli respect to lot coverage, the enclosing of the loading dock probably is
a warranted solution� however� the addition of more office space may be
precedent setting for other similar situations.
Any approval should be continqent upon getting a written agreement on
joint parking witIi Acti.on Pattern Co, to .;:he soutF.
Chairuroman SchnaSel reported that this same request was made January 16, 1979
and was approved with the continqency tfiat Vi.king Er.gineering get vacation
agreements from the utility companies. She reported that all the necessary
letters haroe now been received,
Mr, Tharp reported that the additior, for the extsa office soace will only be on a
portion o£ the building� goin9 up 5-1/2 feet £ri�m the existing structure and
will not d3srupt any trees or the desiqa of tIie building. Also, covering the
entire dock will provide more safety in loading the flatheds and eliminate tfie
problems with the ice and snow. Mr. Wenner stated:tfiat the roof will be a pitched
soof and a one hour rated fire retardant wall on the inside and that provisions
will be made for better drainage.
Chairwoman Schnabel read a portion of the letter from Northwestern Rell� "In
the event trouble should arise in the portion of cable under your loading
docks� you would Be obligated to absorb any renair or replacement costs sfiould
they be necessary." Mr. k*enner stated that this does not worry them.
Mr, FFenner and Mr, Tfiazp stated tfiat .tIiey haroe oarking on botfL sides o� the
building and that they fiave had an oral agreement with Action Pattern £or
parking for the last couple of years. T?iey also stated that they have contacted
Park Construction regarding parking and Farking is avai.lable withnat using the
City streets, Chainvaman Scfinafiel informed them that the Cii:y Coimcil would
probably like to see a written agreement about the parking.
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Mr. Clark stated that all roof eauipment must be screened unless it is low-
profile and to be painted to blend with the rest of the building.
MOTION by Y�Jx's. Gabel� seconded by Mr. Barna, to close the public hearing. UPON
A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHfii.+1$F.L DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
AT 8;10 P�.M.
MOTION by Mr. Plemel� seconded by Mr. Barna� ':hat the Appeals Coimnission
recoxmnend to the City Conncil� through tfie P13nning Commission, approval of the
variance to reduce the rear yard setback from the required 25 feet to 2 feet to
alloor tf�e enclosure of a loading dock� wfiicfi svill increase the lot coverage of
tfie main building from the maximiun coverage of 39.5$ to 47$, on Lots 3, 4� 5�
6� 7� 8� and 9, Block 6, Onaway Addition, the same being 7740 Beech Street N.E.�
Fridley� Minnesota, and that there be a writtrn agreement with Action Pattern
Camoany or Park Construction for additional parking. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL
yOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE 1dOT20N CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. REOUEST FOR VARIANCES PURSUANT TO
CITY
E(3UIREMENT FOR A SCREENED ENCTASURE TO CONCEAL � REFUSE CONTAINEktS
�U BLOCKS 1 AI9D 2� CARLSON'S�StTMMIT MANOR ANNEX, TtIE�SAME BEING 5290
-SZUr-5260, 5261 5230 ADiD 5231 3RD STREET N.E., AND LOT 33�
RLSON'S SU;4�1IT MPNOR NORTY ADDITION, THE 541ME BEING 213-219
N.E.� ABTD LOT 1 BLOCK 7 CARLSON'S SUM_MIT MANOR NORTH��ADDITION�
IN6 305 53RD AVENUE N.E. (Request by Ted Bigos� P.O. Box 22464�
, Minnesota 55422). �
Ted Bigos, 6860 Excelsior Boulevard, St. Luuis Park, nnd Mrs. J.B. CarlSOn,
5920-3rd Street N.E., Fridley, were present.
MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mrs. Gabel, to open the public hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE FUBLZC
HRARING OPENED AT 8s38 P.M.
Chai.rwoman Schnabel read the Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVF STAFF REPORT
5290 - 3rd Street N.E, 5291 - 3rd Street N.E.
5200 - 3rd Street N.E. 5201 - 3rd Street N.E.
5260 - 3rd Street N.E. 5261 - 3rd Street N.E.
5230 - 3rd Street N.E. 5231 - 3rd 5treet N.E.
213-219 - 53rd Avenue N.E. 305 - 53rd Avenue N.E.
A. PUBLIC�PURPOSE SERVED BY REOUIREAI�NT:
Section 205.078� 4, requires that garbage receptacles must be in either
tfie rear or side yard and must be screened from public view by a 6 foot
approved fence.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to reduce visual pollution in
the front yard and to lessen the occurrence of garbaqe and debris being
scattered about the property or being blown onto adjacent properties.
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APPEelI,S COMNtISSION --� Se Y.ember 1GL1980 Page 4
B. STATED�HARDSHIP:
"Property has been owned by applicants for fifteen yeass without ever
having problems witfi refuse or unsightly areas. The containers are 1 yard
containers and are kept neat and have been painted bright green. Cost far
constructing vnnecessary screened enclosures would have to be passed on
to the tenants. To enfarce this ordinance would result in unnecessary
increased costs to tenants."
�� � �C. ADMINISTRATTVE STAFF REPORT:
Since the parking lot layouts do lend themselves to providing a screen for
re£use containers� and the granting of this variance would set a prece-
dence, we feel the request should be denied.
Mr. Bigosi stated that the containers cannot be seen from the street and they
are all painted green. ile felt that mayf�e the code was meant for larger parking
lots as putting up containers would make it more difficult for parking as their
parking space is liunited,and, would also make snow plowing more difficult,
Mrs. Carlson stated that the plow man just moves the containers and plows right
down the parking lot. She felt that i£ fences are put up there will be a lot of
snow and ice build up and would be much harder to plow. She also stated that
they have one enclosed container for the 213 building and have had problems
with peoole dianping £urniture and garbage around the container. She said that
she has lived tfiere for 15 years and manages,.the buildings and has trie� to keep
the area picked up and the lids down.
Mr, Clark reported that they have not received any complaints about garbage
around tfie receptacles ar:d tfiis is the first request they have had for not
putting them up and, if grznted, it would certainly set a precedent. He said
some 5arriers are made on� of concrete or redwood fence and some of them do
not have gates and that gates have a tenclency to break off with ice and snow
build u�. Mrs. Gabel felt tfiat they could not make an exception in this matter
when others have been forced to live up to thz code.
MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mrs. Gabel, to close the public hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE�� CHAIRti'OMAN DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING
CTASED AT 8:50 P.M. �
MOTI�JYd by Mrs. Gabel� seconded by Mr. Plemel, to recommend to the,City Cour.cil�
through the Planning Co:mnission, denial of the request to waive the requirement
for a cereened enclosure to conceal refuse containers from view on Blocks 1 and
2, Carlson't Summit Manor Annex, the same being 5290, 5291, 5200� 5201,526o,5261,
5230, and 5231-3rd Street N.E., and Lot 33, Block 6, Carlson's Surmnit Manoi�
North Addition, the same being 213-219-53rd Avenue D7.E., and Lot l, Block 7�
Car.lson's Summit Manor North Addition, the same being 305-53rd Avenue N.E.,
Fridley� Minnesota, UPON A VOICE VOTE, f�LL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL �
DF.CLAR�D THE MOTTCN CARRIF3D UNANIMOUSLY.
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3.
TO
IACATED ON LOTS 16, 17,_18. AND 19, AT.cx�!% i3. tinMILTON'S ADDITION TO
MECY.ANICSVILLE THF. SAME BEING 5311 i7PIIVERSITY AVENUE N.E. (Request by
Thomas Duffy� LeRoy Signs� 6325 Welcome Avenue North� Minneapolis,
Minnesota 55429}.
Tom Duffy� 6325 Welcome Avenue North� Minneapolis� and Bill John5on (Standard
Oil Station)� 5311 University Avenue N.E.� Fridley� were present.
MOTION by Mr, Barna� seconded by Mrs. Gabel� to open the public hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMA?7 SCFINABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 9:05. P.M. � �
Chairwoman Schnabel read the Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATZVE STAEF REPORT
5311 University Avenue N.E.
A. 'PUBLIC PU?2POSE SERVED BY REOUIREMENT:
Section 214,046, B3� requires the maximznn height of a free standing sign
to be twenty-five C251 feet above finished ground level.
Publia purpose served by this requirement is to control visual pollut?,on
and excessive sign height in commercial areas. �
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"Present sign is not visible from I-694 off ramp. At 42 feet the sign
vrould be visible from the ramp."
C. .ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT:
The terrain at this location is level but it is not lower than Highway #47.
Therefore, the sign at the present height of 25 feet is visible along
Highway #47. If this reauest was approved, then we would probably get
other requests from other commercial e�tablishments along I-694 to raise
their signs.
Mr. Clark sFwwed the Commission pictnres of the Standard Station. 23r. Duffy
reported that tfie station is on the border of Fridley and Colinnbia Heights and
right across the street in Colimibia Heights is a Union Oil Station (Standard's
competitionl witli a 45 foot sign which can be seen very clearly. They would
like to put up a 42 foot sign which would not block out the Union Oil sign.
He said the present sign is 23 feet high and virtually cannot be seen. He also
said the size of the sign would remain the same� they just want to raise it.
Chairwoman Schnatiel felt that freeway gas signs are very helpfUl� esaecially
when travelling and that the pictures from Mr. Clark demonstrated problems with
the present sign with the trees and streetli9hts. Mr. Johnson stated that the
freeway fence does not help their visibility either. Mrs. Gabel said she was
not opposed to raising the sign but she was opposed to enlarging it.
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MOTION Sy Mrs. Gabel� secon3ed by Mr. Barna� to close the public hearing.
UPON A VOiCE VOTE� ALL VOTING I�YE� CFIIIIRWOMAN DECLAI2ED TFiE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
AT 9:28 P,M. � �
��MOTIO� by Mr, Barna� seconded by Mr. Plemel� that the Appeals Co�nission
xecotmnend to ffie City Council� tfirougFi the Planning Commission� approval of
the variance to increase the maximinn height of a free standing sign from 25 feet
to 42 feet� located cn Lots 16� 17, 18� and 19� Block 13, Hamilton's Addition
to Mechanicsville, the same being 5311 University Avenue N.E., Fridley,
Minnesota.
4. �9UEST.FOR VAF2IANCES PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205�OF THE FRIDLFY CITV CQpg
AS EOLLOTdS: -REDUCE TfIE�SIDE�YARD SETBACK ON THE LIVING SInE CF THR HOL�SE
(NORTH SIDE) FROM TIiE�REnUIRED. 10 F�ET TO 5 FRF.T_ uFnnCr muF Gmrvaun
F. �F -'P�aF NQZ?SF'. FRf1M'1'HE REC7UIRED 13 FEET TO 11 FEET
SETBACK FROM THE MINIMUM OF 35 FEET TO 67 FEET�
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FLOOR AREA OF A SINGLE FAMILY DCQELLING FROM TfIE
ET OF FINISHED FLOOR AREA TO 894 SOitaRF FF.F.T. ANn
Tf� GARAGE F�EqUIRF`bIENT BE
THE
ASHTON AVENUE N.E. (Request by Richard L. Waltz, .1308�69th Avenue Nor���h,
Brooklyn Center� Minnesota 55430)•
Mr. and Mrs, Richard Waltz� 1308-69th Avenue North, Brooklyn Center� and
Mr, Tim Ptunn, 4252 Unity Avenue T.Iorth, Minneapolis, raese present.
MOTION by Nlrs. Gabel, seccnded by ?7r. Barna, to open the public hearing.
t)PON A[�OICE VOTE, ALL VOTIIdG AY�� CHIIIRWOMAN.DECLARED THE PUBLIC NEARING
OPEN AT 9:35 P.M. � �
Chairwoman Schnabel read the Staff Report:
AD`1StdISTR11TIVl STAF., p,EFORT
71�Ashton Iivenue N.E.
A. PUBTIC��PURT'OSE �E3'JED i3Y I2EOU7F�?2,riCIT:
Section 205.052, 4i3, :'2, r�uires s:her.e a hcuse is buiAt without an
attached gerage on lots np to 6C feet wide, a minimum side lot requirement
sha]1 be necessary of 10 fe.et on one si.c3� and 13 feet on the other side.
Public purpose: served 'u}� thi s requzrem�an*_ is to allo�u access to the rear
yard icr a co:;sible �ecaciieri 9arage at ,ome later dzte.
Section 205.153, lp2, states wY�ere the average of the front yard depths
of eaisting l�uilding> �.:itt�in 7 distance of lOC feet on botl7 sides of a
buil.ciing to be �rect�d is inuze +han the i:iinim:un sc:tback re�uired, then
the setback for tlle protosed i�uildin9 cculd be 6 feet more or less of
this mian dci;th but in no case shall bc less than the required setback
for the distance in wi�icli such block is located.
Public purpose served by this requirane.nt- is Co en5ure that any new
structures do not grcatly impede the front �-ard "line of sight" for the
existing house siCes.
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APPEALS COMNJISSION - September 16� 1980 Page 7
Section 205.059, 2A, ?tl, recfuires a minimum of 1,020 square feet of livinq
area in a one stozy singlc fanily dkelling ur.it. of three bedrooms or less.
Public purpose served by this requi.rement is to provide adequate house
size and living area in residential buil�i:ins,
Section 205.055, 2A, requirr_s all lots hsving a minimum lot area of 9,000
square feet to have a minimu:n of a sinqle stall garage.
Public purpose served by this requiranent is to provide adequate off-street
parking area and storage during inclement weather as well as to house goods
and materials which would otherwise cause visual pollution.
B. STATEll FIFRDSfiIP
Variances are needed because of; the size of. lot for the style of homej
all the bigger house we can af£ord; the home can be enlarged a*_ a latx
date to meet the Code; the garage will be built at a later dste because
we can't qualify for the mortgage package with a garage at this time; and
so the house will fit on the lot.
C. AUI92IdISTRAT2VE STIiFF RPPORT:
This lot is the most southerly lot in Hillcrest Addition and is adjace�it on
the soutn tc tl�e back yards of lots facing Hi.ckory Street. ihe lot ta the
north has a,;Gw house being erected on it with a froat yard setback of SY feet
and a southerly setback oi 14 ieet to allow for, driveway access to t'�e back
yard.
The house, as proposed, and fhe attached garage and house addition, as proFwsed
at a later date, if built at this time would meet all of the Code requirements
except there would be 19 feet instead of 2p feet between adjacent livi:�g areas
(lot to North). The applic�nt states that the garaye and house addition can not
be built at this time b�cause of the restrictions on the mortgage loan, but that
they do intend to construct the g�ag< and addition at a later date.
Variances have been granted on other 50 foot lots in this addition for side yard
seLbacY.s, dwelling unit square foo age, and waicing the garage requirement for
a specified time period.
Mr, Clark reported that there is a 12 foot easement along the south side o£ the
Iot granted for storm sewer and this house would encroach one foot into that
ease�nent. He said the City has the only utility in that easement and the Engineering
staff told him that they have no objections to this one foot encroachment.
If the variances are granted, the City should start proceedings to vaeate one
foot of that easement, which would take 6 to S weeks. Chariwoman Schnabel then
suqgested that the City send a letter of intent to vacate to Mr. and Mrs. Waltz.
Mr, Clark also mentioned that there should be a stioulation aboUt blacktopping
and the garage being built at a later date.
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Chairwoman Scfinabel asked Mr. Waltz if he understo�d about Hiacktoflning a
section o£ the driveway and that this is a requirement for offstreet parking.
He said he understood but that the blackt�uping may fiave to wait until next
Spring,
MOTION by Mrs. Gabel� seconded by bL, Pleme2� to close the pu6lic hearinq.
UPON A VOICS VOTE� ALL V�IVG AYE� CHAIRWOMATI SCH2:�BEL DECLARED TA��PUBLIC
HEARING CT..bSED ;1T 9:50 F.M.
MOTION by Mr, Barna, seconded by Mrs. Gabel, to appr.ove the request to reduce
the side yard satback on *he living side of the house (north side) £rom tne
required 10 feet to 5 fee*_, reduce the side yard setback on the south side of
the house from the required 13 feet to 11 £eet� increase the front yard set
back f.r.om the m:.ninnnm of 35 feet to 67 feet� reduce tF:e minir.nm gross floor
area of a single family dwelling from the required 1�020 square feet of
finished floor area to 884 square feet� and the garage requirement be t�nporarily
waived tiuitil September 1, 1982 to a11ow tne construction of a Rew dwelling on
Lot 9, Block 2, Hillcrest Addition, the same being 710 ✓�Ashton Avenue N.E.�
Fridley, Minnesota. UPON A VOICc VOTE, Ai,L VO'PING A'tE, CHAIRW02�`,A.*1 SCHIVABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRI�D UNANIMOUSLY. .- .
ADJOURiIMES:T:
MOTION by Mrs. Gabel, seconded by Mr. Barna, to adjourr the meeting. liPON A
VOICE VOTE� AI,L �'OTITiG AYF,� CiIF1IRWOMAN� SCi1NAEEL DECITiRED THE APPEALS C0�1h1ISSI0AT �
MEETING OF SEPTEI°IBER 16 � i980 � ADJOUf2NE�D t�T �-10:05 P.P1. � �
Respectfully sUbmitted,
Deb Niznik, Fecording Secretary
9/19/80
CITY OF FRIDLEY`-
COMNfI5S20N MEETING, SEPTEMBER 24, 198�
Chairman�Iiarris called the September 24, 1980, Planning Commission
meeting to order at 7=30 p.m.
ROLL CALLs
Members Presento Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenf'els, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes,
Mr. Wharton, Ms. Schnabel, (arr. C 7s35) Mr. Svanda
Members Absentc None
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Mrs. J.E. Green, 7320 Melody Drive
Jack Green, 7320 Melody Drive
Mary Mattson, 7324 Symphony St. N.E.
John Jensen, Minn. Transer Railway Co., 2071
University Ave., St. Paul, Minn.
M.R. Coulsom, 811 Mississippi
Steve Bergerson, 7320 Tempo Terrace
James Bergerson, 7320 Tempo Terrace
Gerald Dahle, 7310 Melody Drive N.E.
Terry Kasen, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency
Tim Scherkenbach, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency
Cary Perket, Environmental Engineering, & Manage-
ment, Ltd.
Mr. Perkins, Medtronic
Carl Remick, Architectual Alliance
APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 10, 1980, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTIQN by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to approve the Septem-
ber 10, 198� Planning Commission minutes as written.
UPON A VOICE YOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS, DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1.
TRA1vSFER ILW�,Y COMPANYe Being a replat oi Parcel 4tS00 deseribed
as: The NE 1 oi the SW �/4, except the East 150 feet thereof;
The North 50 feet o#' the SE 1/4 of the SW1/�+ lying West of the
East 150 feet thereof, all lying in the South Half oi Section
11, T-30, R-24, City of Fridley, generally located along the
University Avenue East Service Drive, and 73rd Avenue I��,
MOTION by Mr. Wharton, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels,to open the
Public Hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALZ VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS, DECI,ARED THE
PUBLIC HEARING, OPENED AT 7�35 P•PrT•
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 24i 1980__,__�� P�,GE__2
Mr. Boardman stated that they have received this request irom
Minnesota Transfer Railway Company, primarily, because they are
looking at selling the property to three di£ferent property owners.
The problem was that they could not sell off the diiierent sections
of property the way that it is laid out, because it was still one
parcel. Actually, he stated it is two different parcels, this one,
and the parcel on the west, east side, o£ Carter Day. Therefore
the Minnesota Transfer Railway Company, had to get a registered
land survey, in order to split the parcels, into difierent sections,
listed as A, B, C, D, �nd E., as shown on page 22. This is the
reason they have come in and requested -this platting before this
Commission.
Mr. Iiarris questioned if there was a representative of the petitioner
in the audience.
Mr. Jensen came forward, and introduced himself as the Chief
Engineer. Mr. Jensen stated, that basically, as Mr. Boardman
had explained, that several years ago, the parent Company,
advanced them money, to acquire several hundred acres of property,
At this time, the parent company, feels that it is in their best
interesi , to have the property in the parent companys name,
Therefore, he explained, they are deeding the property, to the
paren-t company. In order to prepare proceedings, and have them
recorded, they required a registered land survey.
Mr. Harris questioned Mr. Boardman, if there was a necessity ior
any easements?
Mr. Boardman stated that the Engineering staf£ had looked at this,
and yes they felt there was a necissity for easements. He stated
that on tract 'C', for road purposes should be a minimum of 66 ieet
wide. He stated that is usually the requirement for an industrial
road. He stated that the City should have also, some bikeway-
walkway dedication-easemeni, along University Avenue, on Tract 'A',
This easment for the bikeway-walkway, he stated, should be 15 feet.
�long 73rd Avenue, also, he stated the easement ior a bikeway-
walkway easement would be 15 feet. He stated that there has been
a location of corridors ior the bikeway-walkway but that there
has not been anything in detail as whether this would be located
on the north, or the south side of 73rd.
Mr. Oquist questioned where the road easement would be in tract 'C'?
Mr. Boardman stated that the road easement is tract 'C', this would
be the whole tract. He stated that is where the existing service-
road is. - --
Ms. Hughes questioned if she was correct, in that there was no
correlation between the description of what is deeded here, to
the A, B, C, D, and E, tracts?
P�NING COMMISSION ME�TING��E�TEMBER 24 1980 P�GE_�
Mr. Boardman stated that the descripticei on the property, is for the
entire area. Regarding the letter on page 21, to Mr. Qureshi,
the 29 acre piece lying to the west oi Carter Day, would be tract
'B"., and the 2.45 acre parcel at the corner of 73rd and University
avenue, would be tract 'A'. The 49 acre parcel to the east of
Caxter Day is not shown on page 22. He further stated that there
has been some question by the engineers on staff, whether there
should be some additional right of way for the intersection of
73rd., if they would go to a iive lane in' �c ion in that area.
Because of this question from the engineering staff, Mr. Boardman
stated that he would like that left open, until they reach the
City Council, because by then the stafi would have made a decision.
Mr. Harris questioned if Mr. Jensen, had discussed the needs ior
easements with the City's staff?
Mr. Jensen stated that no, he had not, but that he would feel,
that if it were necessary to have the easements, he would think
that would'nt be a problem.
Mr. Treuenfels stated that he was a little confused, to how much
in acreage, was actually involved?
Mr. Boardman stated that the 49 acres lying east of Carter Day
is not included in this platting, as they were able to deed this
without a registered land survey.
Chairman Harris questioned ii there were any other questions?
Mr. Green of 7320 Melody Drive, N.E. came forward and stated that
he understood that at sometime back, that there was a covenant,
of some sort of restrictions, regarding how close, any of the
industrial plants could build to �3rd street. He questioned ii
anyone present knew if that was true, and if so wou7d this transfer
of land have any effect, on whether they could build closer to
73rd, or would it change in any way ihe covenant, or restrictions
on how close they could build to 73rd?
Mr. Harris stated that what Mr. Green must be referring to, would
be the required setback between the two different zonings.
Mr. Boardman stated that must be true, because he is unawaxe oi
any covenant but that �he zoning requires a 100 foot setback.
Mr. Green questioned then that 100 foot setback would not change
with this deeding of the land?
Mr. Harris stated that no this request does not change the 100
foot setback zoning requirment.
PLAN I�Y NG COMMISSION MEETING. SEPTIIVIBER 24, 1980 _ PAGE 4
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Mr. Oquist to close the Public
Hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, AI�L VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS, DECI,ARED THE
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 7s46 P.M.
Ms. Hughes stated that this is the first time, that she has had
to deal with registering to record and convey the property, and
that it is not a rezoning, or approval of a plat, so she questioned
what criteria should be used in judging this item.
Mr. Harris stated that if in fact the applicant meets the platting
requirements in the City's zoning code, that is really the criteria
by which this is judged. �lso he stated, that they must insure,
that the City has all the necessary easements, and dedications,
that are needed.
Ms. Hughes questioned what they were really approving here, ii
it was a preliminary pla't, or a final plat?
Mr. Boardman stated that the Planning Commission approves preliminary
plats, and that the City Council approves final plats.
Mr. Harris stated that because this is M-2 zoning, they require that
the lot size be a minimum of i2 acres, and all the parcels here,
do meet that requirement.
Ms. Hughes questioned what they could put on plat'A' with a 100
foot setback, or are they looking at having to rezone it?
Mr. Boardman stated that they might have to rezone it sometime
into the future, but ior right now, they meet all the requirements
ior an industrial zone. He stated that plat 'A', is about 2z acres,
and that could have a pretty good sized building gut on it.
Mr. Harris stated that the question before the Commission, on this
item, is whether their petition meets the City's platting ordinance,
and it is incumbent upon the Commission, to make sure that the
petztion er meets the platting ordinance, and that also all necessary
easemenis, and dedications are included, to meet the needs of the
City.
Ms. Hughes stated that at this point the only question she has
is whether they would be approving something that might have tiz_-go
tMrough different procedures, such as a variance.
Mr. Boardman stated that with the required setback, they could
atill put a 30,000 to 40,000 square foot building on Tract "A". .
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Wharton, to recommend to
the City Council approval of the P.5. #80-02, Reg,istered I,and Surve.y
b Minnesota Trans?er Railwa Com an� Being a replat of Parcel 4800
described as: The NE 1 4 of the SW 1/4, except the East 150 feet
thereof; The North 50 feet of the 5E 1/4 of the SW 1/4 lying West
PI,Q.NNNING COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER_24, 1980 ______ PAG�
o£ the East 150 feet thereof, all lying in the South Half of Section
11, T-30, R-24, City of Fridley, generally located along the
University Avenue East Service Drive, and 73rd Avenue, N.E., with
the following stipulations; as requested by the staffs
A. For plat 'C', that the ro�d dedication be 66 feet.
B. For area labeled 'A', and 'B', the b�;k�way: dedication be
for 15 feet.
C. For the area labeled 'A', any neces�y roadway right of way.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALI, VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSI,Y.
Chairman Harris stated that this item would go to the City Council
October 6th, for setting of the Public Hearing for November 10, 1980.
2. PU_BLIC HEARINGo SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 5P�80-10. BY MAR�TORiF. F_
cuuLSOlV: Yer Section 20�.051, 2, A., of the Fridley City Code
to allow the construction of_a second accessorv �iiiding, a
2�� detached garage, tp be located on Lot 8; Block 2,
Meadowlands Addition, the same being 811 Mississippi Street.
MOTION by Mr. Wharton, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to open the Public
Hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS, DECLARED THE
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AT 8:05 P.M.
Mr. Boardman stated that the request as described, will be located
to the rear if the house, with acess out onto Jackson street.
Mr. Harris questioned if the petitionerhad anything to say?
l��a Colsom stated that she had nothing to say.
Mr. Oquist questioned whether she was going to use the new garage
ior storage?
Ms. Coulsom stated that she would want to use the new garage for
her car, as the house the way she had purchased it, 3�as the garage
right under her neighbors bedroom window, and she wanted to get
away from that. She stated that she has no plans at this time
on what �she would want to do with the existing garage. She stated
that also it will be easier to enter, onto Jackson, than onto
Mississippi street, as she now does.
Mr. Boardman stated that he has not had an opportunity to talk
to Ms. Coulsom, about this, but that there are future plans to
have a bikeway-walkway along Mississippi Street. He stated that
they had at one time a bikeway-walkway along the street, but that
the County widened the trafiic lanes, and removed the bikeway-
walkway along that lane. He stated that they have been looking
at the possibility quite caxeiully, on how to get a bikeway-walkway
P�NING COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTIIVIBER 24. 1980 �� PAGE_6
access onto this street, because it is heavily used ior biking.
At this present time, the only way to do this would be to pick
up bikeway-walkway easemen'i from the people along Mississippi,
who come into the Ci�y wi�h requests such as Ms. Coulsom has.
They would like to have a 15 foot easement for the bikeway-walk-
way easement at this time, he stated. which would go from the
property line toward the house.
Ms. Coulsom:stated that would run righi through the middle of
her yard.
Mr. Oquist questioned why they wanted 15 feet?
Mr. Boardman stated what they are doing in the new zoning code,
is that along all bikeway-walkway areas, they are looking at
taking an additional 15 feet easement. He stated that they
might not need 15 feet, and that it could be dropped to 10 feet.
He further stated that ior a two-lane bike trail, it would require
8 feet, and that would be in a combination with a sidewalk or
whatever. He stated that on this area there is an existing side-
walk. He stated that a?ter carefully looking at the area, they
have decided that what would be best, would be to put it in on
the south side up'to about 7th Street, and then crossing over
to the north side for the rest of the distance. This is primarily
because there are some house with a further setback, from the road,
and also because of the Hayes School, that they could probably get
an easement on easier than on the other side.
Mr. Wharton stated that he himself is a biker, but that he is rather
reluctant to go along with the easement request. He stated that
the City keeps asking its residents to beautify the area with
landscaping, but on the other hand, we then tell them, that if
they plant anything along their sidewalk, to kind of separate
themselves-from the traffic on Mississippi Street, that the City
is apt to come along and dig it all up, just about the time that
it is matured to a good hieght, and beautiful. He further stated
that he cannot go along with this arbitary easement, in the anti-
cipation, that somewhere down the line, somebody, might want to
put a 15 foot bike path down the front lawn.
Mr. Svanda questioned what implications were there, if the Comm-
ission did not grant an easement, and then at some date the City
does decide to put in a bike path, what mechanism would the City
have to get the easement, or the properties then?
Mr. Harris stated that it would have to be condemnation then.
Mr. Boardman stated that the implications are, that if they don't
get easements now, that he would doubt, that they ever would be
able to get easements.
Ms. 5chnabel stated that what bothers her is that this women has
come in with a request to put a diiferent garage on, and we are
saying, that we will give it to you, but in exchange, we want
15 feet for an easement. She may be the only one along Mississippi
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Street, to come in with a request withing the next five years, but
just because she happened to come in for the purpose of a garage,
that the City asks her for a 15 foot easement. She stated that
she ieels that is unfair.
Mr. Boardman stated that this practi�e has been done before, and
that he can not see any difference in this instance, as ?rom the
times before that it was done. He then gave examples of some
similar cases and situations that have been before the Commission,
and how they had been handled. He further stated that it has
been done with ihe commercial and the industrial property, and
through building permits.
Ms. Coulsom stated that she questioned what the City planned on
doing with a bike path through the middle of the yards, with all
the driveways entering into Mississippi? She stated that right
now with all the bikers, on the sidewalk, that it is very difficult
to be cautious.
Ms. Hughes stated that the area that Ms. Coulsom is talking about,
between Hayes School and her house, are reasonably close to the
road, and from about a house or two beyond Ms. Coulsom's are the
houses that are setback, and that she could understand the rationale
in that area. She stated that she is sure that a number of people
along the area have planted trees, hedges, and other vegetation,
just simply to cut down the visual impact from the road, and the
noise from the trafiic, which would be defeated, with some of
these other things. She stated that in terms of whether or not,
they should ask for an easement, on this particulas property,
that even if there is an easement, the chances of it actually
being a bike path, as a continuous route, axe pretty slim. So,
that it might not make any differenee at all whether the easement,
is dedicated. She stated that this might never come to pass, but
that you really couldrl't bank on it either.
Mr. Boardman stated that in the Cit�_Plan, that it asks ?or a
bikeway on Mississippi Street, and in the rezoning code, it is
saying, that where possible, and feasible, that the City needs
15 ?eet for a bikeway easement, on all properties, where they
come in and ask for something, from the City of Fridley, that
are along designated future bikeway-walkway areas.
Ms. Hughes stated that she felt she would view, with the houses
that sit fairly close to the road, that the addition of a t�ikeway,
would be a very definite detriment to the property value, of those
houses. She stated that to put a bikeway, with the sidewalk,
in those short front yards, is not going to enhance the values
of those properties.
Ms. 5chnabel stated that she concurred with Ms. Hughes viewpoint,
and that also, they are experiencing and increase in trai'fic,
on Mississippi Street, and therefore, she feels the likelyhood,
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of a b�keway system, if the traffic increase continues, will diminish.
She feels that it is premature, to begin to take easements, because
of this also.
Mr. Oquist stated that he too feels that there is a problem in that
he does not think there is any possible way to get a bikeway on the
street, and with the short front yards, he doesn't know if they
could ever get a bikeway put onto Mississippi, and that maybe they
ehould look at another axea for a bikeway, with less traific.
Mr. Boardman stated that Mississippi though is the only laxge
east-west street that goes from one side of Fridley to the other.
Also it connects all,the residential areas to the Center City area,
if the Center City project is developed the way it is anticipated.
He stated that what was one of the criteria of the bikeway commi-
tee, was the amount of traffic the road has, and that when a certain
number of vehicles, was exceeded, by their limits, then there should
be an off-street biking pathway.
Mr. Wharton stated that he sees that as a falisy, because there
should not be an oif-street trail on Mississippi, if that is a
thorough fare, he cannot see making a three mile an hour bike
path so that he can get from his home, down to Snyder drug, on
University Avenue. He felt it would be nicer to take a route
through Rice Creek Terrace, and that back in through there, they
have bike trails coming out of their ears.
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Svanda, to close the Public
Hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS> DECLARED THE
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8s27 P.M.
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Ms. 5chnabel to recommenrt to
the City Council approval of Special Use Permit, SP_#80-10, bv
Marjorie F. Coulson� Per Section 205,051, 2, A, of the Fridley City
Code, to allow the construction of a second accessory building,
a 24' x 26' detached garage, to be located on Lot 8, Block 2,
Meadowlands Addition, the same being 811 Mississippi Street,
Ms. Hughes stated that she feels this should be approved because
it should enhance safe-ty considerations on backing onto Jackson
Street, versus onto Mississippi street.
Ms. 5chnabel questioned if the petition=er isn't required to close
off the existing attached gaxage?
Mr. Boardman atated that there is no such requirement under this
item.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRI5 DECI,ARED THE
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
Chairman Harris informed Ms. Coulsom that this item would be on
the October 6th, City Council Agenda, and advised she be present.
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3. ENVIRONMENTAL AS5ESSMENT WORK5HEET FOR MEDTRONIC'S DEVEI,OPMENT
Mr. Boardman stated that because they were running into some of
a timing problem, these people had gone through the process of
e�laining what they are doing to the Environmental Quality
Commission last week, and it is being brought beiore the Planning
Commission at this meeting, with the same kind oi process. He
stated that their timetable requires approval-from the_Citv�'or a write-off
from the City Staff by October 20th. He stated that the i'inal
document will be presented to the City Council on October 6th, and
if the Planning Commission has any questions, they would have to
respond to them by October 8th.
Mr. Remick displayed for the Commission a chart showing the
sequence of events, and the timetable for the project.
Ms. Hughes questioned how many cars would there be, because they
had applied for an indirect source permit?
Mr. Remick stated that he would explain by giving some backround
infosmation. He stated that they are doing the EAW because they
are at 170,000 square feet, which is the point of which, they
are required to prepare an EAW. He stated that Medtronie plans
to have from 260,000 to 290,000 square ieet of gross building
area. He stated that the indirect source pexmit, is oi course
based on the parking area. He stated that based on the worst
case, they are adding one auto for each 250 square feet of new
area. He stated that this building will be used ior light
laboratory, and office. He stated that they are preparing the
for the projected space ior beyond 1985. so that they would
not have to go through the EAW process again, if iuture additional
space is needed. He stated that based on the square footage,
they would have a ma�cimum of 1,000 cars.
Mr. Perkins stated that the maximum square footage that they
could put on the east and west site would be 900,000 square feet.
Pli�. Harris questioned what Medtronic's projected final size total
for the project?
Mr. Perkins questioned if he meant this project?
Mr. Harris stated not ior just this project, but for the parcel?
Mr. Perkins stated that the projected maximum square footage
would not exceed �00,000 square feet, within the projected future.
Ms. Hughes stated that indirect source permits are required, based
on the square footage, because of the number of cars they draw, and
the air pollution that they generate, and that is the only reason
for an indirect source permit.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTIIVIBER 24, 1980 PAGE 10
Mr. Harris stated that with this size of a.development, there would
be a considerable amount o? run off, and he questioned how Medtronic
proposed to handle it?
Mr. Remick stated that they plan a 4 to 6 acre holding pond. He
stated that would be either in a grass land �etention, or a reflect-
ing pond. He stated that a reflecting pond would require 1 acre,
and a grass land retention would require between 2 or 3 acres.
He stated that they are projecting now a holding area either
on the extreme east portion, ofi the triangular site, or they have
the option of locating a pond south of 69.
Mr. Perkins then told the Commission about the area that they
are in the process of selling to the County.
Mr. Remick stated that the schedule that they have, is such, that
they are looking at beginning construction �o�ember 1st, an�
general contractor has already been selected. He stated that
to have occupancy by January of 1982, as planned, they will have
to have �he project fast tracked. He stated that by mid-October
they plan to have s schematic design, and have it priced. He stated
that this will be known as Medtronic's business, and technical center.
He stated that the facility that they propose to build will be
an addition of about �0� mf what they now have on the site. He
stated that some of the construetion will be on the west side oi
Old Central Ave., but that the majority will be to the east.
Mr. Remick then showed the Commission another chart, and stated
that the solid yellow area is ihe setbacks, as dicatated by the
Fridley zoning ordinances, and the white area, �as been designated
as buildable area, for the new facilities, east of Old Central.
Ms. Schnabel questioned what method they planned to use to connect
the buildings?
Mr. Remick stated that they have investigated both under the road,
and over, and they are finding right now, that it would be far more
feasable, to go over the road, but this has not been fully determined.
He stated that they plan to go iour stories above grade. Mr. Remick
stated that the striped yellow area is the area that the PCA has
determined could be used for blacktop, with the possibility, though
it is remote, of coming back in the future, and having to treat
that area, or remove soil from that area. So that the striped
yellow axea will not be buildabel, but, that it could be land-
scaped, or blacktopped for a parking asea.
Mr. Whaxton questioned if there have been any soil borings as yet,
and what do they indicate the water table to be?
Mr. Perket stated that yes borings have been taken, and the water
table is approximately 20 ieet below surface grades. He then
showed the Commission a graph to better depict it. He stated that
generally, the water level is decreasing as it approaches Riee Creek.
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Mr. Wharton questioned if there will be any dewatering during
construction, or footing drains?
Mr. Perket stated that any dewatering during construction would
be kept to a minimum.
Mr. Perkins stated that the only problem is on the west site,
to sink for the elevator shaft will go into the water table, and
that will be some slight dewatering.
Mr. Remick stated that it is not planned to go several stories
below grade, and at this time maybe just one story below grade.
Mr. Remick stated that this building will be without pilings,
and that they have investigated a system called Ribro flotation
in which they inject the ground, and reorder the soils in efiect,
with the pressure of the injected water, and ther is no runoff.
This would not penetrate down to the clay layer. He stated that
it is a patented process, that has been used many times.
Mr. Harris asked then if there would be no dewatering during
construc-tion?
Mr. Remick stated that he couldn't say absolutely not, but that
their intent at this time is that there would not be.
Chairman Harris stated that it has been brought forward from the
Environmental Quality Commission, at the last meeting, and he
questioned if the people from the Minnesota Pollution Control
Agency could enlighten the Commission on the contamination problem
in that area?
Mr. Kasen stated that the situation as the agency views it, began
in 1953� When a pole treating company owned the axea. He stated
that they have an old aerial photograph showing the area of the
pole treating company. He stated that they had two difi'erent
operations, one the dipping process, and the other the pressure
treating process. He showed the area that was basically used for
storage of railroad ties, and poles. He then showed where the
central core of the operation was located. He stated that they
did have a waste disposal method, that did interreact with the
soils. He stated that the pole treating operation was last owned
by Burlington Northern. And as best as they can see it, that the
company was losing money, so that they destroyed it, and took
down their buildings, and covered it over, in approximately 1963•
He stated that the majority oi the land had storage of poles and
ties. He stated that it was split into several parcels and sold.
He stated the MPCA knew nothing of any problem, or contamination
until the spring oi last year. Onan began to put in soil borings
for construction, and in the process, they hit a buried tank, that
contained some pole treating product in it, and the soil around
it were very heavily contaminated. At this time the MPCA was
informed of this, and made an inspection at that time. The MPCA
requested that Onan excavate the heavily contaminated soil, and
make further soil borings ior ground water testing. The MPCA
PLANNING COMMI S ON M�ETING. SEPTEMBER 24. 1980 ,_ _PAGE 12
put in approximately ten wells throughout the Onan site, and sampled
and tested the ground water. Some of the test showed contamination,
and the MPCA requested that Onan proceed iurther with a more
extensive investigation to determine where the heavily contaminated
soils were located. He stated that at this point Onan refused to
proceed any further as they felt that they had invested enough.
At this time through iurther historical investigation to determine
previous ownership, a meeting of Medtronic, Onan, and the previous
owner Boise Cascade was arranged. It was suggested that the three
company's get together and do a testing of the entire area, as it
would be more cost efficient to do one set of testing of the entire
area. Medtronic, and Boise Cascade both indicated an interest in
going through this process, but Onan refused to do anything further.
Because Medtronic at this time stated that they planned to construct
on their site, the MPCA has been working with them ever since.
Mr. Kasen stated that Medtronic has put in a matrix of soil borings,
and ground water wells, and submitted the data to the MPCA. The
indication from the submitted data showed that there was indeed
eontamination, more extensive than the area along the track, that
the MPCA was concerned about, but none of the contamination is of
the magnitude of the contamination that is fou�d on the Onan property.
So that it is a degration irom the Onan property to the Medtronie
property, and this contamination is on the surface layers of the soil.
Some of the chemicals have been found to a depth of 8 feet. This
is why the MPCA has requested that no construction be done along
the track. He stated that the health department feels that maybe
the best remedial action for this site on the I�fedtronic property
would be a parking lot, but this has not been determined as of yet.
He stated that iVfedtronic has worked closely with the MPCA on this
project.
Ms. Schnabel questioned what the nature oi the contamination is, or
what substance initially caused the contamination?
Mr. Kasen stated originally the pole treating plant used creosote,
which is a black tar based substance, and as technology increased,
they began to use PCP's, which is commonly used in the idustry
today, and that there have been high levels of these contaminants
found on the Onan property, and they have been found on the Medtronic
property, but as stated before, they axe in degragation. He stated
that in high concetrations it would give tas.ie to the water. He
stated that there are water quality standards for PCP's, but that
there are no such standards for some of the other organic contaminants.
Mr. Treuen£els questioned other than adding taste to the water, is
there any known medical effects from these contaminants, that could
be harmiul?
Mr. Kasen stated that some oi the organic compounds at some levels
are carcinogenic.
Ms. Schnabel questioned if those levels are present here?
PLANNING COMPIfISSION MEETING. SEPTIIVIBER 24, j�980 ______ PAGE�
Mr. Kasen stated that they suspect in the soil on the Onan side,
that the soil is heavily contaminated, and they would have levels
that the MPCA would consider should be removed.
Mr. Scherkenbach, stated that what has to be differentiated, is
the levels in the soil, and what is ingested. He stated that
what is in the soil may be the source of the contaminate, but that
noone eats the soil. He stated that what the MPCA is worried
about, is ii the source is down to the groundwater. He stated
that when you talk about the levels in the soil, you must look
at the levels that are being consumed by humans. He stated that
when you look at this, you have to look at the whole chain. The
MPCA looks at this and goes back up the chain, and say even if
its the soil, they must figure out even if its this level in the
soil-means in terms of creating the potential for problems-else-
where. Then you have to look at the speciYic site, and say,
what groundwaters are you worried about, and is that used out
in that axea by anyone, and where is it going, and in this the
shallow groundwater is flowing into Rice Creek. So that ii you
have contaminants in the soil, you ask what do you do? Some of
the remedial"_actions, would be to remove some of the soil, or you
could put a parking lot, or something that basically would prevent
water irom getting down to-it, or some type of barrier wells.
Mr. Kasen stated that the Health Depaxtment has tested 4 private
wells, and 4 municipal wells, and at this time it is their plan
to sample them again, but that at this time, they feel the water
is safe to drink.
Chairman Harris stated that he is concerned with the Medtronic
property, but that what really concerns him is the property on
Onan, that nothing is being done about it.
Mr. Kasen stated that the MPCA is working on it, and that it isn't
just being ignored.
Mr. Harris questioned that then the municipal wells are okay?
Mr. Kasen stated that he has talked with the Health Department,
and several people who have done the analysis, any they have said
that they will continue to monitor the wells, but at this time
they have not expressed a concern about these wells.
Mr. Perket then showed the Commission the waier flow chart, and
explained its meaning to the members.
Mr. Harris questioned ii any sediment samples have been taken from
I,ocke Lake, which is somewhat of a settling basin?
Mr. Scherkenbach stated that they have taken sediment samples from
Rice Creek, and they did not iind anything a� that %ime to warrant
further samples of any other areas, but because of this new infor-
mation, of Locke Lake being a settling basin they would take samples
of sediment-from it, and east of it ior a campaxison.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETI._NGL_�EPTEMBER�4• 1980 ,.,__ �PAGE 14
Mr. Treuen£els questioned exactly what the iVIPCA is looking at Onan
to do, such as specific information, or soil borings or what?
Mr. Kasen stated that they have met with
hope that they could come up with a plan
with, to provide the answers that the iVIF
the plan is to conduct more soil bori.ngs,
the extent oi contamination, and to look
basically find areas of contamination. F
could determine what has to be done.
Dnan several times in the
that Onan could go ahead
CA needs. He stated that
and examine the soil ior
at the groundwater, and
rom that point, then they
Discussion ensued on �the possibility of what remedial actions
might have to be taken.
Mr. Svanda stated that the Environmental Quality Commission had
gone through the EAW presentation last week, and that they
concurred that with the concurrence oi the MPCA, that they were
giving Medtronic, and the conditions that they were placing on
it, that irom that standpoint, that the Commission did not have
any problems with this part of the project, recognizing that there
is another issue, with the bigger problem of the Onan site. He
stated that the EQC had felt that the i�PCA should try and get a
resolution on the Onan issue.
Discussion ensued on the PCB's and the PCP's.
Ms. Hughes questioned what they had meant by that the property
was covered over, after the pole treating operation was closed?
Mr. Kasen stated that as iar as they can determine, Onan, when
they purchased the property did not lmow, that there ever was
a pole treating operation there, because the buildings were
knocked down, or removed, and something was put on top to cover
the ground.
Chairman Harris questioned the impact that this project would
have on the surrounding neighborhood, specifiaally, traffic.
Mr. Remick stated that they have done a trafiic study, and the
study was based on -a.�l tenative occupancy of the site. They have
taken every employee, that would possibly work on this site, and
taken their zip code, this indicated that most are irom a ten mile
radius, they then from that determined irom which direction .nost
would be approaching the site. He stated that this is pretty
well distributed to the north; south, east, and west, but that
about 35� of the traffic does approach the site from 69th street.
He stated that without benefit from anything to reduce auto trips
per employee, even though Medtronic does have programs for that
reduction, that there would not be a problem on any of the inter-
sections. As a matter of fact, there did not even appear to be
a need for a traffic light insiallation, within their projections.
PLANNING CONRVIIS5�ON MEETING, SEP_`�VIBE�2�, 1980 _ __ P�F. 1�._
He stated that they do practice some ilex time, to a staggered hour
approach, and that would continue.
Mr. Harris questioned how many employees are ihere at Medtronic?
Mr. Remick stated that right now ihey have about 1,100 to 1,200
employees, and will be adding 1,120 by 1985�
Mr. Harris stated that then they are looking.at about 2,000 auto's
for the employees.
Mr. Remick stated that was correct, that there would probably be
about 2,200 employees on the total site.
Mr. Perkins stated that unfortunately, Medtronic has employed
programs, such as shase-a-ride, to reduce vehicles, but so far
they have not done wel1, but they will look into other programs.
Mr. Harris asked if there was something Medtronic could do to re-
direct the traffic tha� is going down Central Ave., and exited on
57�h?
Mr. Remick stated that he could ask the consultant, and that he
would probably answer that question.
Mr. Harris questioned Mr. Boardman as to how many vehicles Onan
would have?
Mr. Boardman stated that he believed there would be about 2,000
vehicles, and because it is a more direct route, he thought they
would mostly exit onto 73rd, and go to highway 65.
Mr. Harris questioned, that if sometime into the iuture, that
signalization became necessary, would Medtronic, be will to share
in the cost of the signalization?
Mr. Perkins stated that he could not answer that, except that ii
that time came they would then have to look at it. He stated that
so far the only peak period is between 4e1j p.m and 4e3� p.m.
He iurther stated that they have not worked with Onan, but rather
they have set up their schedules, and so fax it has worked out well.
Mr. Oquist, stated that the intersection on Old Central by Moore
Lake is very eonjested at around 4�00 since they have taken away
the no turn on red signal, and he can't seem to convince some
council people, that has ereated problems.
Discussion ensued on means and methods of car pooling.
Mr. Harris questioned Mr. Boardman, ii the City has adequate
services, as far as water mains, etc., to handle this facility?
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PLANNLNG COMMISSION M E� TING�S�T�VIBER �4. 1980_____.__ PAGE 16
Mr. Boardman stated that yes they would be adequate.
Mr. Perkins thanked the Commission ior their indulgence, and s�iated
that if there is any further information that iViedtronic could supply
them with, that they would be happy to do so.
iNOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr..Treuenfels, that after looking
at:the EAW from Medtronics, they would recommend that the City Council,
direct their attention to these specifics; the restriction the
PCA has put on the dewatering, during construction, the locating
of a parking lot, the requirement for wells, and the statement
on title and ta.x records. We would also caution the City Council,
on that they have some interest, in seeing what could be done to
mitigate trafiic, on this site, in conjection with Onan, and that
they might want to consider cost sharing on any signalization that
might be required in that immediate areas intersections.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALI. VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. VACAT
ment
Block
o vacate alley in tllock �, Hyue Yark,
between 2nd Street and 22 Street N.E.
Oa 100/ Agree-
cated in the 6000
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to recommend to
the City Council approval of Vacation Requests SAV #80-09, Petition
#8-1980� 100� Agreement to vacate alley in Block 7i Hyde Park,
located in the 6000 Block between 2nd 5treet and 2e Street N.E.
with the stipulation for an utility easement.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, AI,L VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECALRED THE
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. VACATION REQUESTe SAV #80-10, Riehard Waltza Vacate the
Northerly 1 foot of a 12 foot drainage and utility easement,
located on the South property line of Lot 9� Block 2, Hillcrest
Addition, to allow a new dwelling to be constructed without
encroaching on this easement, the same being 7105 Ashton
Avenue N.E.
Mr. Harris questioned ii this item had come to the Appeals Comm-
ision for a variance?
Ms. Schnabel stated that yes it had.
Mr. Boardman stated that there is a house being built on this
property, and the house is being built within 11 feet oi the
property line, and there is presently a 12 foot easement, He
stated that engineering staff has no problem, if' they want to
drop it £rom 12 foot to 11 feet. He stated that there are
several requests from the engineering department on this item.
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PL�.NNING CONIMISSION, SEPTIIvIBER 24, 1980 _� PAGE_�_
He stated that this is the access the City uses to get back to the
pond for maitenance work. He stated that the proposal is ?or a
portion oi this 12 ioot easement to have a driveway over it, and
there is a pipe that extends through that easement. It is the
owners intent to extend that pipe, so that it opens up beyond the
house. He stated the stipulation would be that this extentsion
must have approval from the engineering department. Another
stipulation would be that the owner must keep that easement free
from all barriers, iencings, and any plantings, etc., so that
the City would be able to get their vehicles back to the pond.
Discusion ensued about any other means or ways of having access
to the pond area.
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to recommend to
City Council, approval of Vacation Request� SAV #80-10, by Riehard
Waltz; to vacate the Northerly 1 foot of a 12 foot drainage and utility
easement located on the South property line of Lot 9, Block 2,
Hillcrest Addition, to allow a new dwelling to be constructed
without encroaching on this easement, with the following stipulationsc
A. As requested
be kept free
tions, that
B. That at the
approved by
by the City that the resulting 11 ?oot easement,
and clear, irom any future :p3antings or obstuc-
might impair access, of City Vehicles.
owners expense the pipe will be extended, and
the City Engineering staif.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECI,ARED THE
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. ¢ONTINUEDe PUBLIC HEARINGe AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER_20� OF THE
FRIDI,EY CITY CODE. GINERALLY KNOWN A5 THE FRIDLEY ZONING CODE
MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to continue this
item.
UPaN A VOICE VOTE, ALI, VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECI,ARED THE
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOULSY.
7, RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES�..SEPTIIViBER_4, 1980
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Mr. Svanda, to receive the
September 4, 1980 Human Resources Commission Minutes.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLRED THE
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Treuenfels e�rplained the method that the Human Resouree comm-
ission used in arriving at the score totals for priorities in
funding. He stated that the results were; Central Center for
Family Resources-80 points, S.A.C.A.-77 points, and Alexandra
House-74 points. He iurther explained that the Commission still
had questions and reservation about the funding for the Alexandra
House, as it did not fit into their guidelines, because the request
for funding was for an information filmstrip, not directly to the home.
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PLANNING COMMISION, SEPTEMBER 24, 1�80 �` ,PAGE 18_
Ms. Hughes stated that she would agree because few foundations will
fund films anymore, because they are very expensive, and become
dated quickly. She stated she would rather have the money go
directly to Alexandra House for direci needs.
Mr. Truenfels explained the various organizations, and their
requests ?or funding io the Commission.
MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to recommend
to the City Council, that they fund the Central Center for Family
Resources, the $5,000.00 as requested, and $2,500.00 for S.A.C.A.
and $2,500.00 for Alexandra House, with the recomendation that
the funds be spent on actual services of the house.
Ms. Hughes questioned if it was wise to fund the money to the
Alexandra House for something other than ior what they had requested
iunding for. She stated that she felt that they were certainly
as worthy as the others, because of their scoring, for funding.
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MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Pllr. Oquist to amend the Motion
to read: the $2,500.00 for Alexandra House be used for the service ____
and administration of the House --
Ms. 5chnabel questioned if this would also rule out them using the
money for an educational purpose, other than the iilm?
ivis. Hughes stated that was one of the things that makes her un-
comiortable about giving them the money without them having asked
for it, or until they come back and ask for monay for something-
else.
UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTION AMENDED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
AMENDED MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
S. RECEIVE APPEALS_COMIVIISSION MINUTESa_ SEPTFIVIBER 16,�,Q80
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Treueniels, to receive
the Appeals Commission Minutes, of September 16, 1980.
Ms. Schnabel stated that regarding the last request on page 6,
of the minutes, that this fellow wanted to put up a small structure,
because he felt that he had a definite problem in constructing
the entire house at this time, and within a years time, he planned
to add on a family room and a garage, which is typical of this area.
She stated that she thinks this is fairly typical of the kinds of
requests that they are going to be receiving i'rom young people,
because it is a very low cost way of them to get into a single
family home, if they are to ge-t into one at all. She stated that
it may seem like a lot oi variances, but that the Commission felt
that ii it helps them get the type of single family house that
they want then they should bend the rules a little bit. Also
she stated that this person was very positive in that the home
would be compleied.
PI,ANNING _ CONIlVIISSION MEETING, 5EPT�VIBER 24, 1�80�. _ PAGE 19
Mr. Harris questioned what about Viking Engineering?
Mr. Boardman stated that they had gone beyond the time limit, and
thereiore, they had to reapply.
UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING, AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS, DECLARED THE
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
9. OTHER EUSINESS�
Mr. Oquist stated that at the last Community Developement Commission
meeting, they moved to have licensing of condominiums, sinilax
to what they have for apartments, as a means of controlling it.
Ms. Schnabel questinned the City Council's action regarding
the Pop Shoppe's request ior a recycling area, and the timing
of the action without the Planning Commission's minutes.
Mr. Boardman stated that they did have the iniormation from the
Planning Commission meeting, and the Council did approve it on
a temporary 60 days basis.
Mr. Boardman stated that for the Commission's iniormation, regard-
the Large Family Housing, the lots down in Hyde Park, they will
be closing on the property September 2�th, and there will be a
house started, probably within a week and one-half
Mr. Harris questioned what price range?
Mr. Boardman stated that they are talking about $52,800.00
Mr. Oquist stated that the Car Wash by Target, has now got a
solar panel, as the people had proposed they would get.
ADJOURNMENTs
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to adjourn the
September 24, 1980 Planning Commission Meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, AI,L VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRTS DECLARED
THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT 11�25 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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laine R. Re�
Recor�ing Secretary