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PL 10/08/1980 - 6735� , City of Fridley �GENDA PLANNING COMMI5SION MEETING WEDNCSDAY, OCTOBER 8, 1980 7:30 P.M. CALL TO ORDER: Pages ROLL CALL. APPROVE PLANNING COMMTSSION MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 24 1980 1- 19 1. VACATION REQUEST: SAV H80-10, BY PETITION 9-19E30: Vacate 20 - 25 6 foot alley easement along the East side of Lots l-4, Block 1, Oak Grove Addition, and the 6 foot a1Tey easement along the West side of Lot 12, Block T, Moore Lake Perk Second Addition, a71 north of 66 1/2 Avenue N.E. 2. VACATION REQUEST: SAV #80-11, BY PETITION 10-1980: Vacate 26 — 29 12 foot alley easement in Biock 9,,Berlin Addition (owned by Minneapolis Water Works). 3. CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 205 OF SEPARATE THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, GENERALL KNOWN AS THE FRIDLEY ZONING CODE Pfablic Hearing open. 4. RECEIVE MEDTRONIC ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET SEPARATE 5. RECEIVE COMt1UNITY DEVELOPMENT COPIMISSION MINUTES: SEPTEMBER PINK 9, 198Q 6. RECEIVE HOUSING & REDEVELDPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: SEPTEPI6ER WHITE 11, 1980 7. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: SEPTEMBER BLUE 16, 1980 8. RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION C0�4MISSPON MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 17, GREEN 1 �3 0 L��!�-�� ,�,1, %�� G C� L�,f�z.-' ij�m�� . , �,,,y�'!J� /9�lJ 10. OTHER BUSINE S: ��� Ao Notice of Public Hearing from Columbia Neights(for a retail establishment to obtain a conditional use permit for-a utility shed;. Information only. at meeting. B. ADJOURNMENT: CITY OF FRIDLEY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 24, 1980 CALL TO ORDERs Chairman Harris called the September 24, 1980, Planning Commission meeting to order at 7s30 p.m. • ROI,L CALL: Members Presents Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenfels, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes, Mr. Wharton, Ms. Schnabel, (arr. � 7�35) Mr. Svanda Members Absent� None , Others Presents Jerrold Boardman, City Planner Mrs. J.E. Green, 7320 Melody Drive Jack Green, 7320 Melody Drive . Mary Mattson, 7324 Symphony St. N.E. John Jensen, Minn. Transer Railway Co., 2071 University Ave., St. Paul, Minn. M.R. Coulsom, 811 Mississippi Steve Bergerson, 7320 Tempo Terrace Jauies Bergerson, 7320 Tempo Terrace Gerald Dahle, 7310 Melody Drive N.E. Terry Kasen, Minnesota Follution Control Agency Tim Scherkenbach, Minne�ota Pollution Control Agency "'° Cary Perket, Envirornnen'�al Engineering, & i�anage- ment, Ltd. Mr. Perkins, Medtronic Carl Remick, Architectual Alliance APPROVAL OF SEPTIIVIBER 10�1� 80, PLANNING_COMMISSION MINUTESs MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to approve the Septem- ber 10, 1980 Planning Commission minutes as written. UPON A VOTCE VOTE, ALI, VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS, DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 1, PUBLIC HEARINGs P.S._�80,02,`REGISTERED_ZAND SURVEYi BY MINNESOTA TRAN$FER RAILW�Y COMPANY: Being a replat of Parcel 4$00 described as: The NS 1�� of the SW 1/4. except the Eas� 150 feet thereof; The North 50 feet oi the SE 1/� of the SW1/� lying West of the East 150 feet thereof, all lying in the 5outh Half of Section 11, T-30, R-24, City of Fridley, generally located along the University Avenue East Service Drive, and 73rd Avenue N� MOTION by Mr. Wharton, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels,to open the Public Hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, AI,L VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS, DECI,ARED THE PUBLIC HEARING, OPENED AT 7�35 P•P+1. �;i�oi PLANNING CONIlVIIS3I0N MEETING,L SEPTEMBER 24'--1480 _,_� PAGE 2 Mr. Boardman stated that they have received this request from Minnesdta Transfer Railway Company, primarily, because they are looking at selling the property to three different property owners. The problem was that they could not sell off the different sections of property the way that it is laid out� because it was still one parcel. Actually, he stated it is two different parcels, thi.s one, and the parcel on the west, east side, of Carter Day. Therefore the Minnesota Transfer Railway Company, had to get a registered land survey, in order to split the parcels, into different sections, listed as A, B, C, D, and E., as shown on page 22. This is the reason they have come in and requested this platting before this Commission. Mr. Harris questioned if there was a representative o£ the Petitioner in the audience. Mr. Jensen came forward, and introduced himself as the Chief Ehgineer. Mr. Jensen stated, that basically, as Mr. Boardman had explained, that several years ago, the parent Company, advanced them money, to acquire several hundred acres of property. At this time, the parent company, feels that it is in their best interest , to have the property in the parent companys nazne. Therefore, he explained, they are deeding the property, to the parent company. In order to �repare proceedings, and have them recorded, they required a registered land survey. Mr. Aarris q�.�estioned Mr. Boardman, if there was a necessity for`"�� any easements? Mr. Boardman stated that the Engineering staff had looked at this, and yes they felt there was a necissity for easements. He stated that on tract 'C', for road purposes should be a minimum of 66 feet wide. He stated that is usu�l.ly the requirement for an industrial road. He stated that the City should have also, some bikeway- walkway dedication easement, along University Avenue, on Tract 'A'. This easment for the bikeway-walkway, he stated, should be 15 ?eet. 91ong 73rd Avenue, also, he stated the easement for a bikeway- walkway easement would be 15 ?eet. He stated that there has been a location of corridors for the bikeway-walkway but that there has not been anything in detail as whether this would be located on the north, or the south eide of 73rd. Mr. Oquist questioned where the road easement would be in tract 'C'? Mr. Boardman stated that the road easement is tract 'C', this would be the whole tract. He stated that is where the existing service road is. Ms. Hughes questioned if she was correct, in that there was no correlation between the description of what is deeded here, to the A, B, C, D, and E, tracts? r �L�NING_QgMMISSION, ME�INC3,_ �EPTEPiIBE�_ �4���0___ �PAGE _,� Mr. Boardman stated that the descriptian on the property, is for the entire'area. Regarding the letter on page 21, to Mr. Qureshi, the 29 acre piece lying to the west oP Carter Day, would be tract 'B', and the 2.45 acre parcel at the corner of 73rd and University avenue, would be tract 'A'. The 49 acre parcel to the east of Carter Day is not shown on page 22. He further stated that there has been some question by the engineers on staif, whether there should be some additional right of way for the intersection of 73rd., if they would go to a five lane intersection in that area. Because of this question from the engineering staff, Mr. Boardman stated that he would like that left open, until they reach the City Council, because by then ihe staff would have made a decision. Mr. Harris questioned if Mr. Jensen, had discussed the needs for easements with the City's staff? Mr. Jensen stated that no, he had not, but that he would feel, that if it were necessary to have the easements, he would think that would'nt be a problem. �Ir. Treuenfels stated that he was a little confused, to how much in acreage, was actually involved? Mr. Boardman stated that the 49 acres lying east of Carter Day is not included in this platting, as they were able ta deed this without a registered land survey. i.hairman Harris questioned if there were any other questions? Mr. Green of 7320 Melody Drive, N.E. came forward and stated that he understood that at sometime back, that there was a covenant, of some sort of restrictions, regarding how close, any oi the industrial plants could build to 73rd street. He questioned if anyone present knew if -that was true, and if so would this transfer of land have any effect, on whether they could build closer to 73rd, or woald it change in any way the covenant, or restrictions on how close they could build to 73rd? Mr. Harris stated that what Mr. Green must be referring to, would be the required setback between the two different zonings. Mr. Bo.ardman stated that must be true,,because he is unaware of any covenant but that the zoning requires a 100 foot setback. Mr. Green questioned then that 100 foot setback would not change with this deeding of the land? Mr. Harris stated that no this request does not change the 100 foot setback zoning requirment. �LANNING COMbII5SI0N MSETTNG, SBPTEMBER__.24�. �.980 ,_ PAGE 4 MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Mr. Oquist to close the Public Hearing. UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALS, VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS, DECI,ARED THE PUBI,IC HEARING CIASED AT 7:46 P.M. , Ms. Hu�hes stated that this is the first time, that she has had to deal with registering to record and convey the property, and that it is not a rezoning, or approval of a plat, so she questioned what criteria should be used in judging this item. Mr. Harris stated that if in iact the applicant meets the platting requirements in the City's zoning code, that is really the criteria by which this is judged. Also he stated, that they must insure, that the City has all the necessary easements, and dedications, that are needed. Ms. Hughes questioned �vhat they were really approving here, if it was a preliminary plat, or a final plat? Mr. Boardman stated that the P2anning Commission approves preliminary plats, and that the City Council approves iinal plats. Mr. Harris stated that because this is M-2 zoning, they require that the lot size be a minimum of 1� acres, and all the paxcels here, do meet tha+ requirement. „ Ms. Hughes questioned what they could put on plat'A' with a 100 ioot setback, or axe they looking at having to rezone it? Mr. Boardman stated that they might have to rezone it sometime into the future, but for right now, they meet all the requirements for an industrial zone. He stated that plat 'A', is about 2z acres, and that could have a pretty good sized building put on it. Mr. Harris stated that the question beiore the Commission, on this item, is whether their petition meets the City's platting ordinance, and it is incumbent upon the Commission, to make sure that the petition er meets the platting ordinance, and that also all necessary easements, and dedications are included, to meet the needs of the City. Ms. Hughes stated that at this point the only question she has is whether they woul@ be approving something that might have ta go• through different procedures, such as a variance. MT. Boardman stated that with the required setback, they could still put a 90,000 to 40,000 square foot building on Tract "A". . MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Wharton, to recommend to the City Council approval of the P.S. #80-02, Registered I,and Surve.y b Minnesota Transfer Railwa Com an• Being a repZat af Parcel 4�8�0 described as� The NE 1 4 of the 5W 1/4� except the East 1$0 feet thereof; The North 50 feet of the SE 1/4 03' the SW 1/4 lying West PLANNING_COMMISSION_MEETINGt SEPTEMBER 24, 1980 _ � _� _ �PAG� of the East 150 feet thereof, all lying in the South Half of Section 11, T-30, R-24, City of Fridley, generally located along the University Avenue East Service Drive, and 73rd Avenue, N.E., with the following stipulations, as requested by the staff: A. For plat 'C', that the ro�.d dedication be 66 feet. B. For area labeled 'A', and 'B', the bikeH�ay dedication be for 15 feet. C. For the area labeled 'A', any necessary roadway right of way. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALZ VOTING AYE, CHAIRP4AN HARRIS DECI,ARED THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSI,Y. Chairman Harris stated that this item would go to the City Council October 6th, for setting o£ the Public Hearing for November 10, 1980. 2. PUBLIC HEARING: SFECIAI, tISE PERNiIT. SP#80-10. BY MARJORIE F. COULSON: Per Section 20,5.051, 2, A., of the Fridlev City Code to allow the construction o£ a second accessory building, a 24' x 26' detached garage, to be located on Lot 8, Block 2, Meadowlands Addition, the same being �311 Mississippi Street. MOTION by Mr. Wharton, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to open the Public Hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRNfAN HARRIS, bECLARED TYE PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AT 8:05 P.M. Mr. Boardman stated that the request as described, will be located to the rear if the house, with acess out onto Jackson street. Mr. Harris questioned if the petitionerhad anything to say? T�9�: Colsom stated that sh° had nothing to say. Mr. Oquist questioned whether she was going to use the new garage for storage? Ms. Coulsom stated that she would want to use the new garage for her car, as the house the way she had purchased it, has the garage right under her neighbors bedroom window, and she wanted to get away from that. She stated that she has no plans at this time on what she would want to do with the existing garage. 5he stated that also it will be easier to enter, onto Jack�on, than onto Mississippi street, as she now does. Mr, Boardman stated that he has not had an opportunity to talk to Ms. Coulsom, about ihis, but that there are future plans to have a bikeway-walkway along Mississippi Street. He stated that they had at one time a bikeway-walkway along the street, but that the County widened the traffic lanes, and removed the bikeway- walkway along that lane. He s�tated that they have been looking at the passibility quite careful,ly, on how to get a bikeway-walkway PLANNING_COMMISSION MEETING_t SEPTEMBER 24�, 1980 R� PAGE 6 access onto this street, because it is heavily used for biking. At this present time, the only way to do this would be to pick up bikeway-walkway easement from the people along Mississippi, who come into the City with requests such as Ms. Coulsom has. They would like to have a 15 foot easement for the bikeway-walk- way easemeni at this time, he stated. which would go from the property line toward the house, Ms. Coulsom stated that would run right through the middle of her yard. Mr. Oquist questioned why they wanted 15 feet? Mr. Boardman stated what they are doing in the new zoning code, is that along all bikeway-walkway areas, they are looking at taking an additional 15 ?eet easement. He stated that they might not need 1� feet, and that it could.be dropped to 10 feet.- He further stated that.for a two-lane bike trail, it would require 8 feet, and that would be in a combination with a sidewalk or whatever. He stated that bn this area there is an existing side- walk. He stated that after carefully looking at the area, they have decided that what would be best, would be to put it in on the south side up to about 7th Street, and then crossing over to the north side for the rest of the distance. This is primaril5� because there are some house with a iurther setback, from the road, and also becaase;oi the Hayes School, that they could probably:ge•t an easement on aasier than on the other side. Mr. Wharton stated that he himself is a biker, but that he is rather reluctant to go along with the easement request. He stated that the City keeps asking its residents to beautify the area with landscaping, but on the other hand, we then tell them, that if they plant anything along their sidewalk, to kind of separate themselves from the traific on Mississippi Street, that the City is apt to come along and dig it all up, just about the time that it is matured to a good hieght, and beautiful. He further sta'ted that he cannot go along with this arbitary easement, in the anti- cipation, that somewhere down the line, somebody, might want to put a 15 foot bike path down the front lawn. Mr. Svanda questioned what implications were there, if the Comm- ission did not grant an easement, and'then at some date the City does decide to put in a bike path, what mechanism would the City have to get the easement, or the properties then? Mr. Harris stated that it would have to be condemnation then. Mr. Boardman stated that the implications are, that if they don't get easements now, that he would doubt, that they ever would be able to get easemen-ts. Ms. Schnabel stated that what bothers her is that this women has come in with a request to put a different garage on, and we are saying, that we will give it to you, but in exchange, we wani 15 feet for an easement. She may be the .only one along Mississippi PLANNING_ COMMI$S�ON MEETING_, SEPTE1vIBER_24 _1980 __ P�GE.?� Street, to come in with a request withing the next Pive years, but just because she happened to come in ior the purpose of a garage, that the City asks her ?or a 15 ioot easement. She stated that she feels that is unfair. Mr, Boardman stated that this practice has been done before, and that he can not see any difference in this instance, as from the times before that it was done. He then gave examples of some similar cases an3 situations that have been before the Commission, and how they had been handled. He further stated that it has been done with the commercial and ihe industrial property, and through building permits. Ms. Coulsom stated that she questioned what the City planned on doing with a bike path through the middle of the yards, with all the driveways entering into Mississippi? 5he stated that right now with all the bikers, on the sidewalk, that it is very difficult to be cautious. . Ms. Hughes stated that the area that Ms. Coulsom is talking about, between Hayes School and her house, are reasonably close to the road, and from about a house or two beyond Ms. CoulSOm°s are the houses that are setback, and that she could understand the rationale in that area. She stated that she is sure that a number of people along the area have planted trees, hedges, and other vegetation, just simply +o,,cut down �he visual imnact:irom the road, and the noise from the t,�affic, •.vhich would be a�feated, with some of these other things. She stated that in terms of whether or not, they should ask £or an easement, on this particulax property, that even if there is an easement, the chances of it actually being a bike path, as a continuous route, are pretty slim. So, that it might not make any diiference at all whether the easement, is dedicated. She stated that this might never come to pass, but that you really couldn`t bank on it either. Mr. Boardman stated that in the City Plan, that it asks for a bikeway on Mississippi Street, and in the rezoning code, it is saying, that where possible, and feasible, that the City needs 15 feet for a bikeway easement, on all properties, where they come in and ask for something, from the City oi Fridley, that are along designated future bikeway-walkway areas. Ms. Hughes stated that she felt she would view, with the houses that sit fairly close to the road, that the addition of a bikeway, would be a very definite deiriment to the property value, of those houses. She stated that to put a bikeway, with the sidewalk, in those short front yards, is not going to enhance the values of those properties. Ms. Schnabel stated that she concurred with Ms. Hughes viewpoint, and that also, they are experiencing and increase in traffic, on Mississippi Street, and there£ore, she feels the likelyhood, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING,_SEPTEMBER_24,_1Q80,_ _ PAGE 8_ of a bikeway system, if the traffic increase continues, will diminish. She feels that it is premature, to begin to take easements, because of this also. A4r. Oquist stated that he too feels that there is a problem in that he does not think there is any possible way to get a bikeway on the street, and with the short front yards, he doesn't know if they could ever get a bikeway put onta Mississippi, and that maybe they ehould look at another area for a bikeway, with less traffic. Mr. Boardman stated that Mississippi though is the only laxge east-west street that goes from one side of Fridley to the other. Also it .connects all the residential areas to the Center City area, if the Center City project is developed the way it is an'ticipated. He stated that what was one of the criteria of the bikeway commi- tee, was the amount of traffic the road has, and that when a certain number oi vehicles, was exceeded, by their limits, then there shauld be an off-street biking pathway. Mr. Wharton stated that he sees that as a falisy, because there should not be an off-street trail on Mississippi, if ihat is a thorough fare, he cannot see making a three mile an,hour bike path so that he can get from his home, down to Snyder drug, on University Avenue. He felt it would be nicer to take a route through Rice Creek Terrace, and -that back in through there, they have'bike trails coming out of their ea,�^s. MOTION by i�s. Hughes, �seconded by Mr. Svanda, to close the Public Hearing. UPON A VOICE YOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS, DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:27 P.M. MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Ms. Schnabel to recommend to the City Council approval of Special Use Permit SP 80-IO bv Marjorie F. Coulson: Per Section 20�,051, 2, A, of the Fridley City Code, to allow the construction of a second accessory building, a 2�L' x 26' detached garage, to be located on I,ot 8, Block 2, Meadowlands Addition, the same being 811 Mississippi Street, Ms. Hughes stated that she feels this should be approved because it should enhance safety considerations on backing onto Jackson Street, versus onto Mississippi street. Ms. Schnabel questioned if the petition er isn't required to close off the existing attached garage? Mr. Boardman stated that there is no such requirement under this item. UPON A VOICE VOTE, AI,L VOTTNG AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECI,ARED THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. Chairman Harris informed Ms. Coulsom that'this item would be on the October 6th, City Council Agenda, and advised she be present. �LANNING_._COMMISSION_MEETINGLSEPTEMBER _2�,�,Q80______ _�AGE _,9_ 3. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET FOR MEDTRONIC'S DEVELOPMENT Mr. Boardman stated that because they were running into some of a timing problem, these people had gone through the process of explaining what they are doing to the Environmental Quality Commission last week, and it is being brought before the Planning Commission at this meeting, with the same kind of process. He siated that their timetable requires approval from the City, or a write-off from the City Staff by October 20th. He stated that the final document will be presented to the City Council on October 6th, and if the Planning Commission has any questions, they would have to respond to them by Ociober 8th. Mr. Remick displayed for the Commission a chart showing the sequence of events, and the timetable for the project. Ms. Hughes questioned how many cars would there be, because they, had applied for an indirect source permit? Mr. Remick stated that he would explain by giving some backround information. He stated that they are doing the EAW because they are at 170,000 s�;uare feet, which is-the point of which, they are required to prepare an EAW. He stated that Medtronic plans to have from 260,000 to 290,000 square feet of gross building area. He stated that the indirect source permit, is of course based on the parking area. He stated that based on the worst case, they are adding cne auto for eaeh 250 square feet of new area. He stated that tnis building will be used for light iaboratory, and office. He stated that they are preparing the EAW for the projected space for beyond 1985, so that they would not have to go through the EAW process again, if future additional space is needed. He stated that based on the square iootage, they would have a maximum oi 1,000 cars. Ntr. Perkins stated that the maximum square footage that they could put on the east and west site would be 900,000 square feet. M�'. Harris questioned what Med�ronic's projected final size total for the project? Mr. Perkins questioned if he meant this project? Mr. Harris stated not for just this project, but for the parcel? Mr. Perkins stated that the projected maximum square footage would not exceed 400,000 square feet, within the projected future. Ms. Hughes stated that indirect source permits are required, based on the square footage, because of the number of cars they draw, and the air pollution that they generate, and that is the only reason for an indirect source permit. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 24,_1980 _ PAGE_10 Mr. Harris stated that with this size of a development, there would be a considerable amount of run off, and he questioned how Medtronic proposed to handle it? Mr. Remick stated that they plan a 4 to 6 acre holding pond. He stated that would be either in a grass land retention, or a reflect- ing pond. He stated that a reflecting pond would require 1 acre, and a grass land retention would require between 2 or 3 acres. He stated that they are projecting now a holding area either on the extreme east portion, of the triangular site, or they have the option of locating a pond south of 69. Mr. Perkins then told the Commission about the area that they are in the process of selling to the County. Mr. Remick stated that the schedule that they have, is such, that` they are looking at beginning construction NoYember lst, and a general contractor has already been selected. He stated that to have occupancy by January o£ 1982� as planned, they will have to have the project fast tracked. He staied that by mid-October they plan to have a schematic design, and have it priced. He stated that this will be known as Medtronic's business, and technical center. He stated that the facility that they propose to build will be an addition of about SO% of what they now have on the site. He stated that some of the construction will be on the west side of 01d Central Ave., but that the majority will be to the east. Mr. Remick then showed the Commission another chart, and stated that the solid yellow area is the setbacks, as dicatated by the Fridley zoning ordinances, and the white area, �ias been designated as buildable area, ?or the new facilities, east of Old Central. Ms. Schnabel questioned what method they planned to use to connect the buildings? Mr. Remick stated that they have investigated both under the road, and over, and they are finding righi now: that it would be far more feasable, to go over the road, but this has not been fully determined. He stated that they plan to go four stories above grade. Mr. Itemick stated that the striped yellow area is the area that the PCA has determined could be used for blacktop, with the possibility, thaugh it is remote, of coming back in the future, and having to treat that area, or remove soil from that asea. So that the striped yellow area will not be buildabel, but, that it could be land- scaped, or blacktopped for a parking area. Mr. Wharion questioned if there have been any soil borings as yet, and what do they indicate the water table to be? Mr. Perket stated that yes borings have been taken, and the water table is approximately 20 feet below surface grades. He then showed the Commission a gra�h to better depict it. He stated that generally, the water level is decreasing as it approaches Rice Creek. �:l�N_NLN�. _CQ�IMZ.S�IQN_ MEET�N�,._ SEP`�EMBER�?hy12$.4_ _._._._ _-------.PAS"xE�.]. ._ Mr. Wharton questioned if there will be any dewateririg during construction, or footing drains? Mr. Perket stated that any dewatering during construction would be kept to a minimum. Mr. Perkins stated that the only problem is on the west site, to sink for the elevator shaft will go into the water table, and that will be some slight dewatering. Mr. Remick stated that it is not planned to go 5everal stories below grade, and at this time maybe just one story below grade. Mr. Remick stated that this building will be without pilings, and that they have investigated a sys'tem called Ribro flotation in which they inject the ground, and reor3er the soils in effect, with the pressure of the injected water, and ther is no runoif. This would not penetrate down to the clay layer. He stated that: it is a patented process, that has been used many times. Mr. Harris asked then if there would be no dewatering during construction? Mr. Remick stated that he couldn't say absolutely not, but that their intent at this time is that thexe would not be. Chairman Harris s�ated that it has beer. �,rought ferward from the Environmental Quality.Commission, at the:la.st m�eting, and he questioned if the people from the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency could enlighten the Commission on the contamination problem in that area? � M r. Kasen stated that the situation as the agency views it, began in 1953� when a pole treating company owned the area. He stated that they have an old aerial photograph showing the area of the pole treating company. He stated that they had two difierent operations, one the dipping process, and the other the pressure treating process. He showed the area that was basically used for storage of railroad ties, and poles. He then showed where the central core of the operation was located. He stated that they did have a waste disposal method, that did interreact with the soils. He stated that the pole treating operation was last owned by Burlington Northern. And as best as they can see it, tha�t the company was losing money, so that they destroyed it, and took down their buildings, and covered it over, in approximately 1963. He stated that the majority of the land had storage of poles and ties. He stated that it was split into eeveral parcels and sold. He stated the MPCA knew nothing of any groblem, or contamination until the spring of last year. Onan began to put in soil borings �or construction, and in the process, they hit a buried tank, that contained some pole treating product in it, and the soil around it were very heavily contaminated. At this time the MPCA was informed of this, and made an inspection at that time. The MPCA requested that Onan excavate the heavily contaminated soil, and make further soil borings for ground water testing. The MPCA � PLANNING CO�ISS�ON M�ETING, SE�TIIv_IBER 24,.�,Q80 __ __ PAGE 12 put in approximately ten wells throughout the Onan si'te, and sampled and tested the ground water. Some of the test showed contamination, and the MPCA requested that Onan proceed further with a more extensive investiga'tion to determine where the heavil.y contaminated soils were located. He stated that at this point Onan refused to proceed any further as they felt that they had invested enough. At this time through further historical investigation to detexmine previous ownership, a meeting of Medtronic, Onan, and the previous owner Boise Cascade was arranged. It was suggested that the three company's get together and do a testing of the entire area, as it would be more cost efficient to do one set oY testing of the en�ire area. Medtronic, and Boise Cascade both indicated an interest in going through this process, but Qnan refused to do anything further. Because Medtronic at this time stated that they planned to construct on their site, the MPCA has been working with them ever since. Mr. Kasen stated that Medtronic has put in a matrix of soil borings, and ground water wells, and submitted the data to the MPCA. The = indication from the submitted data showed that there was indeed contamination, more extensive than the area along the track, that the MPCA was concerned about, but none of the contamination is of the magnitude of the contamination that is fou�hd on the Onan property. So that it is a degration from the Onan pxvperty to the Medtronic property, an@ this contamination is on the surface layers of the soil. Some of the chemicals have been found to a depth of 8 feei. This is why the MPCA has requested that no construction be done along the track. He stated ihat the health department feeZs that maybe - the best remedial action for this site on'the T�Iec�zronic property ' would be a parkir�g lot,•but this has no� been determined as of yet. He stated that Medtronic has worked closely with the MPCA on this pro ject. Ms. Schnabel questioned what the nature of the contamination is, or what substance initially caused the contamination? Mr. Kasen stated originally the pole treating plant used creosote, which is a black tar based substanc�, and as technology increased, they began to use PCP's, which is commonly used in the idustry today, and that there have been high levels of these contaroinants �ound on the Onan property, and they have been found on the Medtronic property, but as stated before, they are in degragation. He stated that in high conce-trations it would give tss'� to the water. He stated that there are waier quaZity standards for PCP°s, but that there are no such standards for some of the other organic contaminants. �r. Treuenfels questioned other than aflding taste to the water, is �Lhere any known medical effects from these contaminants, that could be harmful? Mr. Kasen stated that some of the organic compounds at some levels are carcinogenic. Ms. Schnabel questioned if those levels are present here? PLANNING QOMMISSION MEETING1 SEPTEMBER 24,_�980 _____ ��_ PAGE� Mr. Kasen stated that they suspect in the soil on the Onan side, that the soil is heavily contaminated, and they would have levels that the MPCA would consider should be removed. Mr. Scherkenbach, stated that what has to be dif?erentiated, is the levels in the soil, and what is ingestad. He stated that what is in the soil may be the source of �the contaminate, but that noone eats the soil. He stated that what the MPCA is worried about, is if the source is down to the groundwater. He stated that when you talk about the levels in tha soil, you must look at the levels that are being consumed by humans. He sta�ed that when you look at this, you have to look a�t the whole chain. The b4PCA looks at this and goes back up the chain, and say even if its the soil, they must figure out even ii its this level in the soil means in terms oi creating the potential for problems else- where. Then you have to look at the specific site, and say, what groundwaters are you worried about, and is that used out in that area by anyone, and where is it going, and in this the shallow groundwater is flowing into Rice Creek. So 'that if you have contaninants in ihe soil, you ask what do you do? Some of the remedial actions, would be to remove some of the soil, or you could put a parking lot, or something that basically would prevent water from getting down io-it, or some type of barrier wells. Mr. Kasen stated that the Health Department has tested 4 private wells, and 4 municipal wells, and at this time it is their plan to sample them again, l�ut that at th�s ti�ne, they ?eel the wata�-' is safe to drink. Chairman Harris stated that he is concerned with the Medtronic property, but that what really concerns him is the property on Onan, that nothing is being done about it. Mr. Kasen stated that the MPCA is working on it, and that it isn't just being ignored. Mr. Harris questioned that then the municipal wells are okay? Mr. Kasen stated that he has talked with the Health Department, and several people who have done the analysis, any they have said that they will con�tinue to monitor the wells, but at this time they have not expressed a concern about these wells. Mr. Perket then showed the Commission the water flow chart, and explained its meaning to the members. Mr. Harris questioned if any sediment samples have been taken from Locke Lake, which is somewhat of a settling basin? Mr. Scherkenbach stated that they have taken sediment samples from Rice Creek, and they did not find anything at that time to warrant further samples of any other areas, but because of this new infor- mation, of Locke Zake being a settling basin they would take samples of sediment from it, and east of it for a comparison. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER �4�Q80 __._ . PAGE 14 Mr. Treuenfels questioned exactly what the MPCA is looking at Onan to do, such as specific inforcnation, or soil borings or what? Mr. Kasen stated that they have met with Onan several times in the hope that they could come up with a plan that Onan could go ahead with, to provide the ansti•rers tha� the �1PCA needs. He stated that the plan is to conduct more soil borings, and examine the soil for the extent of contamination, and to look �.t the groundwater, and basically find areas of contamination. From that point, then they could determine what has to be done. Discussion ensued on the possibility of what remedial actions might have to be taken. - Mr. Svanda stated that the Environmental Quality Commission had gone through the EAW presentation last week, and that they concurred that with the concurrence of the MPCA, that they were giving Medtronic, and the conditions that they were placing on it, that from that standpoint, that the Commission did not have any problems with this part o? the project, recognizing that there is another issue, with the bigger problem of the Onan site. He stated that the EqC had felt that the MPCA should try and get a resolution on the Onan issue. Discussion ensued on the PCB's and the PCP's. Ma. Hughes questioned what they had mear.-t by that +he property was covered over, after the pole treating operation was closed? Mr. Kasen stated that as iar as they can determine, Onan, when they purchased the property did not know, that there ever was a pole treating operation ihere, because the buildings were l�ocked down, or removed, and something was put on top to cover the ground. Chairman Harris questioned the impact that this project would have on the surrounding neighborhood, specifically, traffic. Mr. Remick stated that they have done a traffic study, and the study was based on a1.1 tenative occupanc,y of the site. They have taken every employee, that would possibly work on this site, and taken their zip code, this indicated that most are from a ten mile radius, they then from that detennined from which direction most would be approaching the site. He stated that this is pretty well distributed to the north, south, east, and west, but that about 3$/ of the trafiic does approach the site fro:n 69th street. He stated that without benefit from anything to reduce auto trips per employee, even though Medtronic does have programs ?or that reduction, that there would not be a problem on any of the inter- sections. As a matter of fact, there did not even appear to be a need for a traffic light installation, within their projections. PLANNING COMMISS�ON MEETjN�, _S�P�BEj�2�, _,y980_,__ __._�AGF 1 5_ He stated that they.do practice some flex time, to a staggered hour approach, and that would continue. Mr. Harris questioned how many employees are there at Medtronic? Mr. Remick stated that right now they have about 1,100 to 1,200 employees, and will be adding 1,120 by 1985� Mr. Harris stated that then they are looking at about 2,000 auto's for the employees. Mr. Remick stated that was correct, that there would probably be about 2,200 employees on the total site. Mr. Perkins stated that unfortunately, Medtronic has employed programs, such as share-a-ride, to reduce vehicles, but so far they have not done well, but thEy will look into other programs. Mr. Harris direct the 57�h? asked if there was something Medtronic could do to re- traffic that is going down Central Ave., and exited on Mr. Remick stated that he could ask the consultant, and that he would probably answer that question. Mr. Harris questioned �Ir. Boardman as �o`.Y�ow many vehicles Onan would have? Mr. Boardman stated that he believed there would be about 2,000 vehicles, and because it is a more direct route, he thought they would mostly exit onto 73rd, and go to highway 6g. Mr. Harris questioned, that,if sometime into the future, that signalization became necessary, would Medtronic, be will to share in the cost of the signalization? Mr. Perkins stated that he could not answer that, except that if that time came they would then have to look at it. He stated that so ?ar the only peak period is between 4:15 P•m and 4:30 p.m. He further stated that they have not worked with Onan, but rather they have set up their schedules, and so far it has worked out well. Mr. Oquist, stated that the intersection on Old Central by Moore Lake is very conjested at around 4c00 since they have taken away the no turn on red signal, and he can't seem to convince some council people, that has created problems. Diseussion ensued on means and methods of car pooling. Mr. Harris questioned Mr. Boardman, if the City has adequate services, as far as water mains, etc., to handle this facility? ; PLANNJNG,_,_,CO�NIjSSS_O1�MEETING,,SE�TF'�V1BER_24• 1q80__ Mr. Boardman stated that yes they wouZd be adequate. , PAGE 16 Mr. Perkins thanked the Commission for their indulgence, and stated that if there is any further information that ��'fedtronic could supply them with, that they would be happy to do so. MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, that after looking at the EAW from Medtronics, they wouZd recommend that the City Council, direct their attention to these specifics; the restriction the PCA has put on the dewatering, during construction, the locating of a parking lot, the requirement for wells, and the statement on title and tax records. We would also caution the City Council, on that they have some interest, in seeing what could be done to mitigate traffic, on this site, in conjection with Onan, and that they might want to consider cost sharing on any signalization that might be required in that immediate areas intersections. UPON A VOICE VOTE, AZ2, VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOU5'LY. 4. YACATIaN RE�UEST: SAV #�0-0 ment to vacate a1Zey in Bloc. Block beiween 2nd Street and � nyuC rain� Street N.E. Oe 100f Agree- cated in the 6000 MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to recommend to the City Council approval of Vaeation Requests 5AV #80-09, Petition #8-1980s 100% Agreement 1:o vacate alley ,in Block 7i Hyde Park, located in the 6000 Block between 2nd Street and 2z Street N.E. with the stipulation for an uiility easement. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALI, VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECAI,RED THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. 5. VACATION REQUEST: SAV #uu-1u, xic Northerly 1 ioot of a 12 foot drai located on the South property line Addition, to allow a new dwelling encroaching on this easement, the Avenue N.E. hard Waltz: Vacate the nage and utility easement, of Lot 9, Block 2, Hillcrest to be constructed without same being 71Q5 Ashton Mr. Harris questioned if this item had come to the Appeals Comm- ision for a variance? Ms. 5chnabel stated that yes it had. Mr, Boardman stated that there is a house being built on this property, and the house is being built within 11 feet of the property line, and there is presently a 12 foot easement. He stated that engineering staff has no problem, ii they want to drop it from 12 foot to 11 ?eet. He stated that there are several requests irom the engineering department on this item. -r _PLANNING_COMMISSION}_SEPTEMBER 24. 1980_____T_,_�_,_ PAGE_17_ He stated that this is the access the City uses to get back to the pond fo.r maitenance work. He stated that the proposal is for a portion of this 12 foot easement to have a driveway over it, and there is a pipe that extends through that easement. It is the owners intent to extend that pipe, so that it opens up beyond the house. He stated the stipulation would be that this extentsion must have approval from the engineering department. Another stipulation would be that the owner must keep that easement free from all barriers, fencings, and any plantings, etc., so that the City would be able to get their vehicles ba�k to the pond. Discusion ensued about any other means or ways of having access to the pond area. MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to recommend to City Council, approval of Vacation Request: SAV #80-10, by Richard Waltz; to vacate the Northerly 1 foot of a 12 foot drainage and utility easement located on the South property line of Lot 9, Block 2, Hillcrest Addition, to allow a new dwelling to be constructed without encroaching on this easement, with the iollowing stipulations: A. As requeste be kept fre tions, that B.. That at the approved by d by the City that the resulting 11 foot easement, e and clear, from any future plantings or obstuc- might impair access, of City Vehicles. owners expense the pipe will be extended, and the City Engineering staff. UPON A VOICE YOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAI&'�AN HARRIS DECLAftED TKE " MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. 205 OF THE__ MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to continue this item. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION PASSED UNANIivIOULSY. 7, RECEIVE_HUMAN_RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES_: SEPTEMBER 4, 1980 MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by �Ir. Svanda, to receive the September 4, 1980 Human Resources Commission Minutes. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLRED THE MOTION PASSED UNANI,IfOUSLY. Mr. Treuenfels explained the method that the Human Resource comm- ission used in arriving at the score totals for priorities in funding. He stated that the results were; Central Center for Family Resources-80 points, S.A.C.A.-77 points, and Alexandra House-74 points. He further explained that the Commission still had questions and reservation about.the funding for the Alexandra House, as it did not fit into their guidelines, because the request for funding was for an information filmstrip, not directly to the home. 0 PLANNING COMMISION , .. SEPTEMBER 2�_1580__ _ _`. __ .. __PAGE _ 18 Ms. Hughes stated that she would agree because few foundations will fund films anymore, because they are very expensive, and become dated quickly. She stated she would rather have the money go directly to Alexandra House for direct needs. Mr. Trueniels exp2ained the various organizations, and their requests for funding to the Commission. MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to recommend to 'the City Council, that they fund the Central Center £or Family Resources, the $5,000.00 as requested, and $2,$00.00 for S.A.C.A. and $2,500.00 for Alexandra House, with the recomendation that the funds be spent on actual services of the house. � Ms. Hughes questioned if it was wise to fund the money to the Alexandra House ior something other than ior what they had requested funding for. She stated that she felt that they were certainly as worthy as the others, because of their scoring, for funding. MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Oquist to amend the Motion to read: the $2,500.00 for Alexandra House be used for the service and administration of the House Ms: Schnabel questioned if this would also rule out them using the money for an educational purpose, other than the film? iYis, Hughes staie� that was one of the things that makes her un— comfortable about giving them the money without them having asked for it, or until they come back and ask for monay for something else. UPON A VOICE VOTE A7�L VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION AMENDED. UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VQTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECI,ARED THE AMENDED lYlOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. '�. RECEIVE_APPEALS .COivIMISSION MINUTESs SEPTFIUIBER 16, 1950 MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to reeeive the Appeals Commission Minutes, of September 16, 198o• Ms. Schnabel stated that regarding the last request on page 6, of the minutes, that this fellow wanted to put up a small structure, because he £elt that he had a definite problem in constructing the entire house at this time, and within a years tine, he planned to add on a family room and a garage, which is typical of this area. She stated that she thinks this is iairly typical of the kinds of requests that they are going to be receiving from young people, because it is a very lovr cost way of them to get into a single family home, if they are to get into one at all. She stated that it may seem 2ike a lot of variances; but that the Commission felt that ii it helps them get the type of single family house that they want then they should bend the rules a little bit. Also she stated that this person was very positive in that the home would be completed. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING,_SEPT�YIBER 24� 1Q80 _� _ PAGE_19 M r. Harris questioned what about Viking Engineering? Mr. Boardman stated that they had gone beyond the tiine limit, and therefore, they had to reapply. UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VO'�ING, AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS, DECI,ARED THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. 9. OTHER S[JSINESS: Mr. Oquist stated that at the last Community Developement Commission meeting, they moved to have licensing of condominiums, sinilar to what they have for apartments, as a means of controlling it. Ms. Schnabel questianed the City Council's action regaxding the Pop Shoppe's request for a recycling area, and the timing of the action without the Planning Commission`s minutes. Mr. Boardman stated that they did have the infox:nation from the Planning Commission meeting, and the Council did approve it on a temporary 60 days basis. Mr. Boardman stated that for the Commission's information, regard- the Large Family Housing, the lots down in Hyde Paxk, they will be closing on the property September 25th, and ther.e will be a house started, probably within a week and one-hali Mr. Harris questioned what price range? Mr. Boardman stated that they are talking about $52,800.00 Mr. Oquist stated that the Car Wash by Target, has now got a solar panel, as the people had proposed they would get. ADJOURNMENT: ;�fOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by �[s. Schnabel, to adjourn the September 24, 1980 Planning Commission iVteeting. UPON A VOICE VOTE, AI,L VOTING AYE, CHAIF�'ivIAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MEETING ADJOURNEA AT 11s25 P.M. Respectfully submitted, �� � _�<��.C:�� �Elaine R. Ree - ' Recor4ing Secretary . . , . __ . _ � ' v NUMBER Gl' D��'� � .,APPLICANT'S SIGNATURE �' ' Address �•,, � Telephone Number� CITY OF FRIDLEY MINNESOTA PLAIvT{ING ANU ZONING FORPi J �n�(�� '• PROPERTY OWNER"S SIGNATURE �Address Telephone Street Location of Property _. �. 2Q TYPE OF REQUEST Rezoning Special�Use Permit Approval of Premin- inary $ Final Plat �Streets or Alley Vacations Other Fee Receipt No. Legal Description of Property �,, �;., �o -t,E 6' ,:!;,;., . „sd - �;?„ � /n'is �—� ��ok (�r�vf ��� � ac,rJ (�' F1fec� p/c•.1 �c-f�„`IZ�.Mnare Lake.',°a.K �co�d ,�?d�'�%a., � Present Zoning Classification �xist�`�"U�e of Property Acreage of Property Describe briefly the proposed zoning classificatio� or type of use and improvement proposed Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot spiit or . variance or special use permit on the subject �ite or part of it? yes no. What was requested and when? The undersigned understands that: (a) a list of all residents and otrners of property within 300 feet (350 feet for rezoning) must 6e attathed to tfiis application. (b) This application must be signed by all o�aners of the property, or an explanation given why this is not the case, (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to list the names and addresses o£ all residents and � property owners of property in question, belonas to the undersi�gned. A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the following: 1. North Direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lot. 3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setUacks. � 4. Street Names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (tiaithin 300 feet) The undersigned hereby declares that all the facts and representations stated in this application are true and correct. � �/�� DATE �� SIGNATURE�, (A� LICANT) Date Filed Date of Hearing Planning Commission Approved City Council Approved (dates) Denied [dates) Denied � : 21 CITY OP FFIDL�Y PETITION CO�R SH�ET petxtion No. 9-1980 Date Received 9/23/8C object vacate Al1ey Easement: 6' alley easement along Lots 1-4, Oak Grove Addition, and 6'-foot alley easement alo�g Lot 12, t400re Lake Park, Second Addition Petition Cliecked By Date - Percent Signing ,' Referred to City Council • Disposition S' t' , i �. . `��;. '� D.iVE'S SPORT SHOP INC. ZZ � .. . . . 8299 UNIVERSIN AVE. N. E . � . . . . .. � . � � � . �FRIpLEy,MINNE50TA �3432 " � � � ' � . � ' � � SPORTB EOUl�'MENT, LETTERIIJG � ' ' . � � l� � � �2a5K4T85MARPEN�NG � � � . . JB��. �0� y�jJ . . ���� �' �� �` �`���Yy OAVE FUERBTENB?RO . ' � . . � � � � � . PH.:.f612) 57Y-4110 . � Pwes�ocNr . . T, David Fueratenber� at 1h01 - 66:g Ave. N,�',, uoutd Liice ;.o ';aae an a1_e;; v3cation by tha City of Fri3lay. c" i�Y�.vL�",.J C i / �L';._c.�� , Y� � \. v� iJ, :: � � : ���'!� �O i' (�2�. ���a ����L, � IfZ� �I���=�a� � ' � ���: , 1��.���re �1.��� � .r � . . " �{�'�-- ����`` �,f3y ' ! r9so !\ � � � ,,R- -`�'22e . � ,�"2 C�� S� 3� � � ' �� ' .a ���lV+�iv+tiJ �� .�,6z� �ccr�cl � ��� � G�"���-��.�.�. �- v , � �� � :�L=�v�, 7�'� ��� -� -� ��� . , ' � � �� �� . ^ ` l' �� ' . ,' ' _.�._. . _' .'..—� __- "_' � '. ..� T_�___�_ _.. .. ______ _�_"._ ___ I� ' . . �..; - 23 i Sept. i9, 198C. We, the Fleighbors at Co � 7 s F/2/OG G y �S � y do elect to hava the s12ey vacated or vacation between aur lot and 1601 - 662 Ave: :7.E. o� tha City of Fridleq. ��� ��,��� '��Q � . - ;;- ; ;. , . .. . . . . . i. . .. . . . . . . :, . . . . . � . i . . �. . � . . 1 . . . . �-....,. • � 24 3�pw. 19, 1930 We,the neiehbors at l�r��`� 7�;�r ��•� do elect to %c�ve the a11ey vacated or vacation beiwean our lot and 1601 - 66� �ve. P:.E, by the City of Fridley. " . /�' � ,�n , F' . .. �' �. . . . . . . � ' . � � . � � , � . .. . ' � RE N� � C �i � 29 -L 27=- fl7 6::' w.e� + =c:) ,_ . i,t_�t�!. . - � c. z � - � ;�� =- - �,�� g!� Y %.-.��4 i��` � y � ,� Z � � •� �y����� �rt�i� �� ��i� i +'X,� . .._'i�'.�S �I�i s � ��� � � r `� } :� 1. 7' � V.E � —�-� - �6A� ,.:j . 65 . „�1 <_" �_� 25 � z j�' -. im5 , n �'� CITY Or FRIDLEY MINNESOTA . ���^rvPLANNING AND ZONING FQE2�1 � ;1UMBER //� r/� r '� APPLICANT'S SIGNATURE, � � �� �� . Address �J Telephone Number PROPERTY OWNER'S SIGNATURE Address Telephone Number Street Location of Property Legal Description of Property 26 TYPE OF REQUEST Rezoning . Speciai Use Permit App�oval of Premin- inary Fi Final Plat _� Streets or Alley Vacations Other Fee��"eceipt No, Present Zoning Classification Existing Use of Property . Acreage of Property Describe br.iefly the proposed zoning classificatiom or type of use and improvement proposed_ �/ �'�. �� f��.,.�i ,G,; , — /��-�� �1 j -�sa�.G,�n �� - Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it?_yes no. What was requested and when? ' � The undersigned understands that: (a) a list of all residents and owners of property within 300 feet�(350 feet for rezoning) must be attached to this application. �(b) This application must be signed by all owners of the property, or an explanation given why this is not the case. (c) Responsibility £or any defect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to list the names and addresses of all residents and property o•.vners of property in question, belongs to the undersigned. . A sketch of proposed property and structure must,be drawn and.attached, showing the �"- following: 1. North Direction.�'2. Location of proposed structure on the lot. 3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setbacks. 4. Street Names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 300 feet). , .. � The undersigned hereby decl�res that all the facts and representations stated in this � � application are true and correct. ( I , . - - - - - -- -.. - - -- ---- - � DATE SIGNANRE �` � �' ,(f( LICANT) # Date Filed Date of Hearing • Planning Commission Approved Cit'y Council �Approved (dates)� . Denied (dates)' Denied � �....: ---___�� ___ -- � 1 �" I _ _r.�e. - . � . . ... . . . . . . .. . . `. . _ . . . . �. . � . . r � . . . � . . _ 27 �. , : CITY OF FP,IDL1iY PLTITSON COVEP. SHEET • Petftion No. 10-1980 Date Feceived 9�24/80 object Vacate alley easement in Block 9, Berlin Addition. 700% signing. petition Checked By , Date - � Percent Signing Referred to City Council - Disposition � t, , r: . - . � ' ; � ! __ ___ _ . _ . '� 23 ' 41e, the undersigned, petition the City of Fridley to vacate the alley easerr,ent in Block �,_ ��l Addition. 4►e understand if ere have the support of 100% of'the property owners in this block, the Gity eriTT �•iaive the regular fee of �125.00 - Name Address �� ��. � . `�, .� �� `��,� , �,,� �,� � �� � : ����� ��.� aa� � � . . �, �s�,s- � , ��. }�, � _ _. ; . . �� � � «.. . ^^-- .: r s . :a i . . . . . ���k �: � � . ' v: s .a . . (, y� `� � k':.� i�«s ew a . ::-: . r� �t. 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Y � ,��"__. -i:.i_� �..., _ ._. 7 � � h - ��. :... _�o bv.r; � e _ 'n: � '•,b: •Li.-R.+/� . � . � � �__�� ��t;j.�D�1/1�i0� '' � AUblTOR S . � - .. ��� 5- , . _,: , . � c> • �� -r �>.�•, l:yt e ' �. . �. � � � ..� . . � .�. � . ---� � . - . �.. : . ��-,.'-- : . . ..._ �. ..._.. _ __- --:-'- ._...--_ __.__�. .,' -� �-��--�-- "-��----- CITY OF FRIDLEY £OMMUNITY DEVEIAPMENT COMMISSION - SEPTEME3€R 9, 19$0 Paqe 1 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Oquist called the September 9, 1980 Co�unity Developmen�. Commission meeting to order at 7:45 p.m. ROLL CALL• Members Presentd LeRoy Oquist, Connie Modiq. A1 Gabel, Kenneth.Vos, - Sharon Gustafson Others Pxesent: Bill D�blon, Associate Planner ' . APPRdVAL OF COt7MUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES - ADGOST 12��1980: MOTZON by Mr. Gahel, seconded by Ms. Gustafson, to appxove the August 12, 1980 C�munity Develogment Gbffinission minutes as written. UPON A VOICE VOTE, AT•T• ...VOTTt3G AYE, CHAIRPERSON...OQUIST AECLARED Tf3E I�TION CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY. 1. DISC(JSSION OF CONDOMINIUM CONVERSIONS: Afr. Deblon xead the follovring additions and changes to the multiple dwellings ordinance to license condominiums: 209.03. Ds€initions . . . c. Condominium: A multinle dwelling in which portions are designated for separate'ownership and the remainder of which is designated for comnon ownership solelg by the owners of theae`portions: A multiple dwelling is not a condominitun unless the undivided interests in the comnon elements are vested in the unit owners. d. Conversion Condominium: A multiple dwell.ing whzch has been con- verted from rental units to ownership units itt accordance with the uai£orm Condominium Act (Ch. 582 - 1960 session). After discussion and reviewal, the Co�i.ssion decided to add the following sentence under 209.04. Registration: That the City of Fridley is to be notified 60,days prior to the notice given to tenants of condomini� conversion. After further discussion and reviewal, the Commission decided to change tha last sentence irr the first paragraph under 204.05, License and Fee to read: ... A conversion condominium shall require a separate license from the multiple dwelling license. AEter fuxther discussion and reviewal, the Gommission suggested that the Paragraphs under 209.06. Application shall be numbered and lettered as £ollows: COMl�1UNITY DEVEI,(?PMENT COMMTSSION - September 9, 198p Page 2 1. No certificate oE registration and application for multiple dwelling license shall be approved unless the application contains the following information: a. Description of ground area by street number and legal description. b. Size of the building. c. Number of stories and height in feet. d. Total Eloor area of the buildinq. e. Number of dwelli�}g units. f. Number of persons housed and living in each unit. g. Number of adults:and minor children in each unit. h. 'Total area provided-on premises for oYf street parking. i. Number of automobiles maintained and parked on the premises. j. A certificatipn by the owner that he knows of no order of the City made relating to corsection, repair, use, occupancy, maintenance or operation or.otherwise of the premises as would render the premises ineligible for reg.istration and license, or that compliance is being made with `any order as has been made and that he,'the owner, believes that no cox�dition e�cists with xespect to the premises as would make the premises ineligible for registration and 7icense. k. The name of thendtural person who manages or is in actual control of the premi.ses and'who is responsible £or the maintenance and operation of the same, together with his address at which any notice or order respecting the premi:ses may be served or given. 2. No cestificate of registration and application for a conversion condo- minium license sha12 be approved if there exists within the city a ° significant shortage of suitable rental dweilings available to low and moderate income individuals or families, or to establish or maintain the City's eligibility for any federal or state program providing direct or indirect-financiai assistance for housing to the city. Chairperson"Oquist read 209.172. In Use and Mr. Deblon reported that he wants to ask Inspection regarding this section. He also reported that the new ordinance will have to have a pUblic`hearing and cannot go into ef£ect for 18 months. MOTION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Mr. GabeZ, that the Comnission recQmnend the muitiple dwelling ordinanee as revised with suggestions to the Planning � � Department for considerat3on�. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHATRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE�MOTION�CARRIED�UNANIMOUSLY. � � . 2. i]PDATE ON BIIC.�WAY�FIALKWAY DEVEIAPMENT: Mr. Deblon reported on tfie B ikeway/Walkway. He stated that they are in the process of obtaining a limited use permit from the State, and they should be getting the State's final approval any day now. Theq are also in the process of obtaining ' a DNR permit and a Watershed permit. He stated thay they are preparing for the letting of bids for the project and eould have the bikeway completed by the end of October. ' The original participating cost estimate for the project was $191,870.00. However, bids are coming in seal 2owi and the cost could be as low as $SD,000. He further � stated that the City was in the process of oUtaining bikeway easement when it was consistent with the City's revised Bikeway/Waikway Plan.' There was some discussion regarding alternative ways of a6taining easements for bikeways. ' _ • '4 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION September 9, 1980 Pafte 3 � w s 3. OTHER BllSIN$SS: Ms. Modig asked Mr. Deblon if he knew anyth3ng about the purchase or use of -. fhe Gardena School.building. Mr. Deblon stated that there has been discussion regarding the Gardena School building. A developer, Jake Cadweller, has expressed interest in purchasing 6ardena School for condominium development. The School f Board must first approve the sale of the school hefore anything can happen. Then, ;; before any condominium development can take place, the land will have to be rezoned, and the City would be holding public hearings. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Ms. Modig, seconed by Dr. Vos, to adjourn the meeting. UPOid A VOICE , - VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DEGLARED THE COMM[TfIITY DEVEIApMENT COiQiIS5I0N OF SEPTII�ffiER 9, 1980 A➢JOURNED AT 8:45 P.M. Respectfully, submitted, Deb Nizaik, Recording Secretary CITY OF FRIDLEY HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORTTY MEETING SEPTIIVIBER 1L 1980 CALI, TO ORDER � Vice-Chairpersorl Houck, called the September 11, 1980 Housing & Redevelopment Authority meeting to order at 7:40 p.m. ROLL CALLs Members Presents Russell Houck, Carolyn Svendsen, El[t�a.rs Prieditis, � Larry Commers (axrived @ 7d50 p.m.), Duane Prairie Members Absents None Others Present: Jsrrold Boardman, City Plax►ner APPROVAL_OF AUGUST 14, 1980,_HOUSING &_REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTESs MOTION by Mr. Prieditis, seconded by Ms. Svendsen, to approve the August 14�, 1980 Housing & Redevelopmen-t Authority meeting minutes. UPaN A VOICE 1+OTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRMAN HOUCK, DECLAREb THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSZY. 1. CENTER CITY PROJECT UPDATE A. Receive Memo#8�-99 on Brunkow Music Building Acquisition Mr. Boardman stated that what he needed was their approval to authorize a purchase o£fer. Mr. Boaxdman further stated that at this point in order to enter into any type oi negotiations, they should probably make an offer to Kerry Elder, and see what her reaction is. He stated that he felt that at that point Kerry Elder would have the building appraised, and v�e c;oulu possibly have to make a counter-offer. Discussion ensued on various methods and means that could be used to purchase this property. Mr. Boardman stated that what they would liks to see would be on this one, would be a longer term contract for deed, so that they could purchase both the 5tandard Oil, and the Brunkow Music building, and have enough money from the fund that would keep coming in, to pay off the contract. He further stated that Mr. Brunsell, has looked at this, and felt that the 9z� interest is what they should at least make an offer on. He further stated that they used the seven years as a minimum. Mr. Boardman stated that Columbia Heights has worked on their project for over 2z years, so that these projects are time consuming. HOUSING.& REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY_MEETING� SEPTEMBER 1.1, 1980 PAGE 2 Mr. Boardman suggested that maybe what they should attempt to do would be to spend more time looking for company's that would be interested in the City of Fridley, instead of getting developers, or maybe even work in both directions. Mr. Commers stated that what struck him when he saw the letter from Rauenhorst was that the Commission started with the premise that they wanted a redevelopment in the downtown area, and then the people put together a plan that they thought would satisfy the redevelopment. He stated that he thought that maybe they shouldn't in fact, bring in somebody to do a feasability study, to determine what would best fit in there. Discussion ensued on whether or not the Commission would want a Peasability study done. Mr. Prieditis suggested the possibility of advertising in some business magazines, even out of state, to attract some business. Mr. Prairie stated that he receives a magazine called the 'North Suburban', in which it lists office space available in the north suburban area: Mr. Boardman stated that another suggestion would be to hire a realty firm, or something like that to promote the City and development. He further stated, that if that were the route they would want to go, then they wo�zl� have to have some more specific '.�ynr�ts, to show prospec-ti�!e business the Center City project, that they would be coming into. He further stated that the direction the City and the Commission would want to go into, is a topic that will have to be discussed in the future. Mr. Houck state3 that possibly, a theatre could be considered. M r. Boardman stated that ii these purchases go through, he has a possible tenant for the Standard Station. He stated that he has had discussion with the Anoka Community Action Program (CAP) as a possible tenant. MOTION by Mr. Houck, seconded by Mr. Prieditis, to authorize, i17r. �oardman to submit the leiter oi September 12, 1980, to Ms. Elder, on the purchase o£fer. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN C01ti7MERS, DECLARED THE MOTION PASSED UNAPtIM0U5LY. B. Receive Memo #80-98 on Standard Oil Building Acquisition Mr. Commers stated that this was discussed at the last meeting. He then questioned Mr. Boardman if anything regarding this item had changed. Mr. Boardman stated that no nothing had changed, and that he � HOUSING &_REDEVELOPMENT__,AUTHORITY MEETING, SEPTII_vIBER 11. 1980, PAGE 3 had spoken with Mr. MeGregor, regarding the probable purchase agreement. He further stated that Mr. McGregor wanted it in writing, at which Mr. Boardman stated that when the Commission so authorized him, he would then forward the purchase agreement offer to Mr. McGregor. MOTION by �ir. Prairie,seconded by Mr. Houck, to authorize Mr. Boardman,to present the offer as embodied in the letter of 5eptember 12, 1980 to H.I,. YlcGregor•-Standard Oil Division. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIR'�AN COMMERS, DECLARED THE MOTION PASSED UNANLti'IOUSLY. C. Receive letter from Robert Ohman, Rauenhorst Corporation, dated August 27, 1980 Mr. Boardman stated that he was not suz�rised to receive this letter, due to their negative attitude the first time he had talked with them abo�ut this proposal. Mr. Prairie stated that the wording from the letter "not be able to build anywhere near.." and "unable to ignite even the slightest hint of interest.." gave him a very negative feeling. Mr. Boardman stated that there is a need to lay out some strategy fdr going on with this project. M r. Prieditis questioned if they couldn't learn something irom Columbia Heights? Mr. Boardman stated that he could check into that, and also he feels that they have a better corner than Columbia Heights has. MOTION by Mr. Houck, seconded by Mr. Prieditis, to accept the letter from Robert Ohman, Rauenhorst Corporation, dated August 27, 1980. UPON A VOICE VOTE, AI,L VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN COMMERS, DECLARED THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. 2. LARGE FAMII,Y PROGRAM A. Receive Memo #80-92 - Financing time limit for Large Family Homeownership Program Mr. Commers stated that this pertains to the time period that they are going to allow the people, once they have been selected, for participation in the 'Large Family' program, to secure financing. He further stated that as pertaining to the previous minutes, this has been discussed before, and that what the problem is, is that after we have selected some of the families, they have been slow in obtaining financing, that would enable them to go through with the project. � HOUS�NG &�EDEVELOP�ENT,AUTHO�ITY MEETING,_SEPTEMBER 11, 1980, PAGE 4 Mr. Commers stated that they have chosen a time £rame of 9U days, from when they have been selected to secure funding, unless they can show good cause. Mr. Prairie questioned ii the participants have adaquete assistance? Mr. BoardmaYi stated that yes they do. Discussion ensued whether this should be left at 90 days or increased to 120 days. The Authority concurred to leave the 90 days, unless problems arise that would warrant this to be ex+,ended to 120 days. B. Receive Memo #80-93 - Definition of "Large Family" for Homeownership Program. MOTION by Ms. Svendsen, seconded by Mr. Houck, that the Authority adopt this as their�definition oi "Large Family", for the purpose of the Large Family Homeownership Program. UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. 3. FINANCIAI, REPORTS Mr. Commers stated that there were no s�eports to be presente3.'"' Mr. Boardman stated that Marvin Brunsell had terminated his employement with the Gii:y of Fridley. � Mr. Commers stated that he ielt it appropriate ior to send a letter oi thanks and appreciation for all had given the Authority, in the past. 4. OTHER BUSINESS the Authority the help he Mr. Boardman stated that he has brought to the Authority the Contract (Joint Cooperation Agreement), that was approved by the City Council. He explained that ii the County of Anoka is able to have all the city's and townships in Anoka County to go alorig with this joint cooperation agreement, by October lst, they then would be classiiied as an urben county. He further stated then at tha.t time they would set up a commission, made up of several o£ the communi�ies, which would then begin to layout the direction for the application. Then when the application is completed, they would then submit the application to HUD for money. Mr. Commers stated that they would have a greater portion, if they applied ior funding through ihe County, than what they would be able to qualify for by themselves. . .�,,.�- HSLU�NG & REDEV_�LOPMENT_AUTHORITY DIr,ETTNG.�_SEPTEMBER 11L_1 8� 0 PAGE �"`_ Mr. Boardman stated that ,yes that is staff's recommendation, because it has been very dif£icult to receive HUD grants anymore. M r. Commers stated that he had an item to bring to the Authority's attention. He stated that some citi.zens have questioned him, in regards to, what is happening with the Housing Authori'ty. He stated tha�t one of the ways to make known what has been transpiring wzth the Housing & Redevelopment Authority, would be through the Cable Television, public access. Aiter much discussion the Authority concurred that Ms. Svendsen would go to the Cable TV public access, and speak with Mr. Will Loew Bloesser, about what would be involved, an� then come back with some further information. DATE FOR NEXT MEETINGe The next Housing &�?edevelopment Authority Meeting will be held October 9, 1980 ADJOURNMENT: Chairman Commers declared the September 11, 1980, Housing & Redevelopment Authority meeting adjourned at 9_s35 P•m• Respectfully submitted, ��'��G� � =__�'�1��" Elain�e R. Reed Recording Secretary r�^ CITY OF FRIDLEY ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING SEPTEMBER 16, 1980 CALI. TO ORDER � Vice-Chairperson Sporre called the September 16, 1980, Environ- mental Quality Commission meeting to o^der at 7:36 p.m. ROI,L CALL � Members Present: Lee Ann Sporre, Bruce Peterson, (arrived @ 8:45p.m.) Richard Svanda, Dave Engstrom Members Absent: Others Present: Jon Erickson Bill Deblon, City of Fridley, Assistant Planner Carl Remick, Architect Alliance M ary Nelson, Architect Alliance Cary Perket, Environmental Engineering & Management, Ltd. Mike Perkins, Medtronic ' Terrarice Kasen: Minnesota Pollution Control Agengy MPCA Tim Scherkenbach, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency APPROVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: AUGUST 19, 1980 MOTION by Mr. Svanda, seconded by Mr. Engstr�m to approve the August 19. 1980 Environmental Qualtiy Commission minutes. UPON A VOICE VOTE, AZI, VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SPORRE DECLARED THE MINUTES APPROVED. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA: MOTION by Mr. Svanda, seconded by Mr. Engstrom to approve the agenda as written. UPOPF A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SPORRE DEGLARED THE AGENDA APPROVED. 1. INTRODUCTION OF NEW CODTvII5SI0N M�VIBER: DAVE ENGSTROM Ms. Sporre introduced Mr. Engstrom to the Commission members, and asked i�r. Engstrom to shaxe some of his backround with the members. M r. Ehgstrom stated that he has a degree in Civil Engineering, and has always had an interest in envirorlimental.issues.'. He stated that for the past three years he has been employed with the Health Department. as a district engineer. Ms. Sporre stated that even though Mr. Engstrom, had expressed some concern over a possible conflict of £ir.ie, she had reassured him that he could work with the Commission harmo- niously. � ENVIRONMENTA_QUALITY CiOMu�j�$ION_MEET.ICIG,. SE�TE�j�E$_�,6. 1980 P C�,F � 2. Mr. Deblon stated that the purpose of our guests this_eveninc, was two-iold but mainly for the environmental assessment work- sheet, which Medtronic has optioned to �lo to_clear the , way for future developments. Further,, they do nave a time- frame in which they must work. He stated the sequence of events for the environmental review process, is such, that the City will play a role. Mr. Deblon stated that due to the time £rame, the Environamental Quality Commission, will,be receiving the worksheet, at the same time as the City Council, and the Planning Commission He stated that hopeful.].y the EAW will be prepared and submitted to the City of Fridley by October lst, and then at that time, the EAW will be mailed out to the City Council, and the Commission members. Ms. Nelson , of Architect Alliance, suggested that if staff has�any changes or recommen�ations to the EAW, that they should be made prior to the City Council meetinq. Mr. Deblon continued by saying that the EAW should go to the Planning Commission prior to October 8th. Ms. Nelson stated that she would give the Commission some back- round on the EAW. She stated that the worksheet process, is pretty much di:Ctated by the State Planiiing Agency by setting�up guide- lines concerning the si2e of the development, Medtronic is expaxiding more �han 175,OOOsquare feet, which is a requirement that is stipulated for a light industrial axea. Other kinds of requirements ior a EAW could be proximity to a critical area, which does not pertain to Medtronic for this site. She further stated that another kind of requirement could be the amount of vehicular trips generated per day. She stated that in the 1960's, whEn State Planning began to come up with environmental controls, required an impact statement on every new development which became lengthy documents, that were not easily reviewed. � Tfie`y then came up with the EAW, which is a quick synopsis of the environmental issues. She further stated that once the EAW is completed, it is then approved by a responsible agency, and in this ca,�e, it is the City of Fridley. After a sign-off from the City of Fridley City Council, it is then published in the State Monitor, and reviewed by the Environmental Quality Board. they M r. Remick also from Azchitect Alliance, interjected that .they are also Yequired to contact various agency's such as the Minnesota State Histor- ical Society and the DNR. Ms. Nelson continued to state that the concerns that Medtronic, is basically involved with axe complying with the Fridley zoning standards, traffic generation, adjacent lane use, soil conditions ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COPIMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMSER 16, 1980 PAGE 3 and the ground water situation and the utilities. She further stated that they are also looking quite strongly at the recreation planning, vegetation, climate and also energy. She stated that all these kinds of things are addressed in the EAW in some form or another. Mr. Deblon stated that the major impetus in the EAW was not the creosote issue, although that was addressed in the EAW, but the two items are combined in the agenda, because of their over-lapping nature. Mr. Remick stated that for reference, there are now 404,000 square feet of building on the Rice Creek site, with a projected addition of the 260,000 square feet building. Ms. Nelson stated that they are also developing a master plan that would cover, for the most p�„ all aspects of the site. If there was future expansion, the plan would pretty much indicate where future expansion could go, parking lots,.etc. These future items, would be addressed in,the EAW so as not to have to go through this EAW process again. Discussion ensued on the timetable for the EAW process. Mr. Remick stated that the construction schedule was a very tiqht one, the whole process was very tight. He stated that they will fast track construction. He stated that in order for Medtronic to occupy by 3anuary of 1982, they would have to begin construction by this Dacember, with c�nstruction through all of 1981. For this reason, he stated, the dates and timing were very critical. He then showed the Commission a chart depicting the dating of various stages of the project. Ms. Sporre questioned how it would fit into their schedule if they discovered more extensive creosote contamination? Mr. Perkins, of Medtronic, stated that they have been meeting with various groups, so as to meet head-on any of these problems, if in fact, they do exist. He stated that they hope to uncover an�thing that might slow down the process. Ae continued that they have been meeting with the Pollution Control Agency since Apri1 l4th on a very regular basis. He further stated that Medtronic has been involv.ed in a very extensive, from a time and money standpoint, survey and monitoring program to hope�ully give Dledtronic data that could give the PCA information from which they - could give Medtronic a development disposition on this property. He stated that they have done that for the East property. He stated that their preliminary information to date is that they will get that disposition on that property from the PCA, who was the ultimate authority. ENVIRONMENTAL QUALTIY_COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 16, 1980 PAGE 4 Ms. Sporre questioned if that it was Mr. Perkins understanding that the MPC� is saying that there is not sufficient evidence to withhold a building perinit? Mr. Perkins stated that was correct for the East property. Mr. Remick then showed the Commission members a diagram of the property so that they could correctly identiiy the property being referred to. Mr. Remick stated that the property that has been purchased is to the east of Old Central. He stated that what they have represented on the plan, is that the solid yellow area is either a sewer easement, or a setback, as required by the City's zoning codes. The slashed yellow section, he stated, is the section, that has been identified, by the PCA, as possibly contaminated ground. He stated that for this area, they would not be able to construct a building on that area, but that they could landscape, or put down a parking lot, _ with the understanding, that maybe at som� da�e this may have.to be removed and some of the soil removed or treated. He stated, that the white area is zoned M-2, and is a buildabl� area. He stated that the nature of the building, '" for office, research development faci7ities, and light manu- facturing, ax.d it now being referred to as the Medtronic Business, and Technology center. He stated that everything they are doing, will be within the zoning ordinance and that at this tine they are planning to go �ur story's high but that it would not be a tower buildang. He further di.scussed different possibiliti.es on ways o� achieving the propose� square f�et. M r. Kasen of the PCA stated that_afte.z looking at the-soil �ualit data M edtronic consultants gave to them, it appeared to tnem, tha� the slashed yellow area, had higher levels of contamination, than the white area, not that there were not some areas of contamination in the white area, but that there did not seem to be, consistently, as high a contamination, nor as concencentrated. He stated that because of the spacing o� tha_borings taken , and the quality, they ielt that they had to make a judgement. He stated that they ielt that the areas in the yellow slashing, may need some further remedial action possibly. 'Th�s:c�would result, from comparision to what happens on the Onan site. in an overall look at the treatment plant. He stated that they did want to reserve some judgement, on the area along the tracks. Mr. Kasen thsn showed the �ommission an old aerial photo of the creosote treatment plant, and said it would give them a good idea of ? where the activity was, and. where the contaminated areas would be. M r. Engstrom questioned if the stuff is migrating? M r. Kasen stated that the ground water, does show some contam- ination at the shallow �aqui£ers of approximately 15 feet. He stated the discharge area is to Rice Creek and `they - believe, and hope, that the clay layer beneath this, will prevent any further downward migration into portable water supplies. ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING. SEPTEMBER 16� 1480 PAGE 6 Mr. Svanda questioned as to what kind of conditions the MPCA would be putting on their final sign-off on this project in the event that something is found that is not anticipated now, or that some problem comes up in the future? Mr. Kasen questioned if he was asking what Medtronic would have to do if some remedial action would have to take place? . Mr. Svanda stated that the thrust of hi.s question was that if they were goiriq to dig down into the shallow ground water of 15 feet, it would seem to him like putting a little pinhole in the cork. It could be a weak spot in the system and things could migrate toward that hole. Mr. Kasen stated that his understanding, after meeting this afternoon with the Medtronic people, was that the only thing that was going to go down to any appreciable depth were the footings, and they are looking into the technique of solidifying the sand underneath and making these more impervious as opposed to pilings which wo�ld be driven. He stated therefore, these footings would not go through the groundwater table or to the clay. So that basically, they will be sitting on the surface. Mr. Scherkenbach stated that they should have a cross section look at the ground water. He stated that what Mr. Svanda was saying is that if you dig this hole and do this additional excavation and dewatering, and you cou].d say that you will have dewate�ing but that will be on:ry during the construction phase, that you would 'nave a possibie drawing. But, after the building is completed, you would not have a continual sink area or change the ground water pattern that much. Mr. Kasen stated that they have addressed the dewatering issue such as how long of dewatering and what they are going to do with the water etc., which would be during the construction phase. He added that he believes that the watershed district will want to know what does happen to that water. Mr. Scherkenbach stated that the bottom line concern is the ground water, either as it is used from off site, as a ground water supply, or as it effects deep rock, or as it moves in and therefore effects Rice Creek. Again we do not think this con- struction here, from what we know, is going to change or inter- fere with any remedial action. He stated that they still need - to get the rest of the information on the Onan site to reveal the overall extent of the problem. Ms. Sporre stated that was what she was trying to get at in the first place. Medtronics has made a real effort to get the facts on this but that is only part.of the whole site. And unless we know what the situation is with the land and we know the pattern of the water implications, can we really make a judgement? • � ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 16, 1980 PAGE 5 Mr. Engstrom questioned, what about Rice Creek since it is used rather heavily? Mr. Scherkenbach of the PCA stated that yes, they are concerned with Rice Creek but that should not prevent Medtronic from build- ing on their site, for this would not change the problem. He stated that after looking at pictures, they feel that the•only area they are concerned about, given the values, is the area on the northern side, and they feel that down in the white area, development wouldn't change the problem. Ae stated that what they had told the people at Medtronic was that they did not want to have the building plans move ahead unless they were assured that it would not aggravate the situation, or that it didn't in anyway interfere in what they could see as possible remedial action. He stated that the building on the white area, from what they have seen, won't do that. He stated that they do have some concern on the northern side and that they have told Medtronic that they should be aware that when they get the whole picture, and when�they finally reach some conclusions as an agency, in order to protect the downwater field, will have to be remedial action. There is some possibility that it could include something but they haven't seen anything in the plans that totally eliminate or preclude some type of action in that area, although they feel that it is remote that they will have to require remedial action. Ms. Sporre questioned where was the pole treating facility? Mr. Kaseri sta�ed that they had two �oerations, a pressure treat- ment, and a dipping treatment. Ae then showed on the aerial photo where these areas were located. Mr. Engstrom questioned as to the slope? Mr. Perket stated that if you were looking at the slope of the area, it would probably drain to the Southeast, but.the ground- water flow is to the Southwest. He stated that drainage on that site is going to be fairly minimal because it is very porous soil. He stated that if you were to have run-off, the run-off would go into the ground and after precipitation, most of the water, unless it is a very heavy storm, is going to percolate in. Mr. Svanda questianed how far down below the surface did they anticipate that they would have to dig for a four story building? Mr. Remick stated that for what they actually plan on is to have elevators so they wou2d have to have pits with a mechanical, elec- trical vault room down there below grade, but that generally, they were keeping the buildinq at grade so that the footings themselves wouldn't go down more than ten feet or so. They do not antici- pate having to go down to the'level of clay. - tr-m ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 16, 1980 PAGE 7 Mr. Scherkenbach stated that no matter what they one area, they don't see how the construction of is going to change any of the answers later on. find out in the that building Ms. Sporre stated that yes but that it is dif£icult to move buildings. Mr. Scherkenbach stated that is why they wanted Medtronic to give them the three dimensional pictures, which they did do. And the MPCA has defined site restrictions of the area before they did put in their building. They had to satisfy the MPCA with the levels there, so that they could put in a building there. Mr. Perkins stated that in their testing process, they put in a multitude of wells and soild borings in various locations along their property. And one of Medtronic's strategies ob- viously was to do some backrounding things so they took samples on the Onan property� and put a bank in just south of the rail- road tracks on the Medtronic property, and put in some inter- mediate ones coming across the property again,. and put some in where it leaves our property. He stated that what they were trying to show is a series of values that would or would not indicate if we are or are not contributing to the problem as that water goes across the Medtronic property. He stated that there was nathing significant in respect to that testing pro- cedure. The_source of the problem apparently is generated from what was the treating plant. Mr. Perket then illustrated the water flow as going under the Medtronic property versus going across the sur£ace of the property with charts, and diagrams. Ms. Sporre questioned if this wouldn't also mean that you are also processing the Onan groundwater through the Medtronic property? Mr. Perket stated that yes the Onan groundwater does flow throuqh the Medtronic property. He questioned what �s. Sporre meant by processing? She stated that it was an obvious assumption that the same thing is happening at Onan and that was where the water was going. Mr. Kasen stated that the water is just passing through and there is no activity at Medtronic in the groundwater. Mr. Scherkenbach questioned if she was asking if something should be done there such as soil taken out or treated? Ms. Sporre stated that she hasn't heard the MPCA say they know the scope of the problem and that they have the data on the 160 acres of potential problem and if the MPCA doesn't know the total scope of the total possible problem, then how can we make a judge- ment on mitigated measures, and since we know the course of action ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETIN�, SEPTEMBER 16, 1980 PAGE 8 that the water has, that it is through the Medtronic property, then is it�lsafe to assume that the Medtronic property site would be implicated in any mitigated.measures that may be necessary to protect the pub�ic health, and welfare? Mr. Kasen stated that it would be a different situation if Medtronics property was upgrade of Onan's. If the situation was reversed, the MPCA could not sign off or give Medtronics approval because potentially, the contaminated soil is causing. groundwater pollution.' But, because Medtronic is downgrade, we can relatively look at their contamination and say, the ground- water is only contaminated to this extent, and we know what the soil quality looks like because Medtronic submitted this infor- mation. This is sufficient to give them a reasonable approval to build. Mr. Perket stated that a look at the histogram may answer these questions. He then showed the Commission a histogram. He stated that the lines on the histogram marked O are from the samples = that were taken off the Onan property. The little dots on the battom, he explained, comprise the total amount taken from the worst areas on Medtronic property. He stated that a look at the histogram shows the relative scale of what they are dealing with. He stated that the level that they are dealing with on the Medtronic property is very low. The question that remains is technically, is that low 1eve1 insignificant? This is the question that the MPCA has to determine. He further stated that what Ms. Sporre is really a5king is, i�:they bt�ild the Medtronic addition, are they in anyway going t� stop, an�� remedial actiony that may be necessary? Mr. Scherkenbach explained that the MPCA knows whether there are any problem areas that are continuing to contribute, or they have a good feel for the Medtronics area, because they have provided the three dimensional picture for this basis. The MPCA does not feel that where they are saying that they want to build, that any of those soils have to come out of that area. The MPCA does not feel that theg are contributing to the problem here or in Rice Creek. He feels that they have enough information, as an agency to make that judgement. He stated that what Ms. Sporre was asking, was that they did not know what was happening to the property to the north, and what he is explaining is that no matter how serious that problem is up in the north section, the building of the Medtronic building where they plan to build, over the groundwater, is not in anyway, going to change what the MPCA sees as remedial action. ' Mr. Perkins asked Mr. Kasen to share with the Commission the rationale of the MPCA and the Health Department, with respect to the decision to approve a parking lot. �� ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY CQMMISSION MEETING� SEPTEMBER 16, 1980 PAGE 9 Mr. Kasen stated that he has talked with people at the Health Department who have looked at the data and they basically feel that perhaps, that is one of the best things that can be done. To put a parking lot on top of it so as to prevent any water from reacting with those chemicals and taking them down to the groundwater leve L Mr. Engstrom questioned if they have done anything to figure out how fast the groundwater is moving laterally? Mr. Perket stated that they haven't done any testing on that other than looking at the statistics on this. Mr. Kasen stated that the Health Department has analyzed 4 municipal wells, and 4 private wells, in the area. The Health Department did make a statement on the levels they found and they are not concerned about the water for drinking. Discussion ensued on the values, and levels of contaminants in water. ' Mr. Kasen stated that these wells would continue to be monitored. Ms. Sporre stated that there must be ten times that many wells in that area and that not all are used for drinking. She wondered what protection these people had? Mr. Scherkenbach, stated that when thap-test ard monitor wells, . they go to the closest ones to the site of the contamination. And if they don't find contamination there, logic would dictate that they wouldn't find it further away, and there is no way they would be able to test and monitor each well in Fridley. Ms. Sporre stated that if there is a possibility that does re- main, because she can guarantee that there are more wells in Fridley than the four municipal, and four private, being mon- itored, that there is a contamination, then isn't it fair that the people in that area be notified not to drink from their wells? Mr. Scherkenbach stated that they could not say that right now, given the data tha� they have. There i5 no reason with the information now that they should be told not to use the wells. Ms. Sporre stated that often times when people put down wells, they use a shallower well than is common. Mr. Kasen stated that use of shallow wells in any area would be unwise. Mr. Perket stated that, for the most part, the water is dis- charging into Rice Creek. So that means if it is discharging into the Creek, it is not going to be falling on the other side. ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 16, 1�80 PAGE 10 Ms. Sporre questioned if this was a safe assumption? Mr. Perket stated that it was a relatively good assumption. Mr. Engstrom questioned how thick the layer of clay was and if they have found any less than 10 feet thick? , Mr. Perket stated that from the information from the test borings and from the ones avai2able to them from the lab that they are working with, indicate that it is at least 30 feet thick. Mr. Scherkenbach stated that they have just found out that Onan does not wish to cooperate as Medtronic has in resolving the contamination problem. He stated that the �4PCA has known of the problem since the Fall of 1979 when Onan was doing soil borings, and hit a tank, and pulled the tank out. Mr. ENgstrom questioned what the MPCA is looking at as far as � Onan's is concerned? • Mr. Scherkenbach stated that they have tried to work with the companies to get some cooperation. Medtronic has cooperated, but they have word now that Onan has decided not to, so that they now as an agency have to decide if they will go ahead and litigate or issue some orders to force them to cooperate. He stated that litigation though is very time consuming. Mr. Kasen stated that in checking bacK into the historical records, it was found that at one time before the sale of the land to Medtronic and Onan, that Boise Cascade was the owner of the pole treatinq plant. Because of this, the MPCA did bring in Boise Cascade to a joint meeting of Onan and Medtronic It was suggested that they go into a joint agreement to go into a joint investiqation of the whole problem. Boise Cascade and Medtronic tentatively agreed, but Onan did not. So then everyone went their separate directions. Ms. Sporre questioned if the MPCA now has sufficient data to evaluate the scope of Medtronic's entire property for possible creosote contamination? Mr. Kasen stated no, that they have enough data for the east properties, and they agreed to look into the west properties which did have some active pole treating activities. The D1PCA has asked them at this time to prepare a plan, and they will present it to the MPCA. Ms. Sporre questioned how long that process would take before the MPCA has that data? Mr. Perkins stated that this one had taken about 2# months and the issue on the west side, whether Medtronic likes it or not, is going to get more complicated because there are some real exposures with respect to Medtronic, at least a potential, and there are some real liability questions that Mr. Scherkenbach has alluded to that Medtronic is not willing to say it is just them. ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION M�ETTNG, SEPTEMBER 16, 1980 PAGE 11 Mr. Perkins stated that he feels that it will go to court even- tually because it is a complicated issue and Medtronic is try- ing to deal with it as best as they can. Ms. Sporre stated that the role this Commission is supposed to play is to act as an intermediator, in some respects, as far as what folks think is the problem, and what the agencies, and the engineers see as the problem. The public perception is very important and the Commission is cautious, and will try to not trigger unnecessary alert but along with that comes the re- sponsibility of being honest, and havinq the data, and being able to give some kind of assurance. The more data that the agencies have, the more they.can evaluate it and then the bet- ter the Commission can assure the people. She stated that she feels that the concern of the '80's is the poison alert. She stated that if the people from Medtronic or the MPCA could jar loose the cooperative effort from Onan, they would be doinq a real public service. Mr. Kasen questioned if the Commission has communicated with Onan? Ms. Sporre stated no, the Commission has not but•that she knows that the staff personnel have. been in communication with Onan. She then questioned who this person that has talked with Onan wa's . Mr. Delbon stated tHat the sta£f person that has been in con�act with Onan, is Mr. John F1ora, Public Works Director. Mr. Kasen suggested that if Onan was aware of the public concern from the Commission, that it might be an incentive to them to cooperate with the MPCA. Mr. Kasen stated that they have asked Medtronic to give them data during construction of things that could impact the soil, and the ground waters, etc. Mr. Perkins stated that this project hinges on the approval of the MPCA and everyone involved is very sensitive to it and re- alize that what it means as a go or no decision. Mr. Remick stated that there will be someone on the site through- out construction. Mr. Perkins questioned if there was ang further information that the Commission wanted? Ms. Sporre stated that she would like Medtronic at this time just to make all the information that they'have available to the City Council, and the Planninq Commisszon, and also to ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 16, 1980 PAGE 12. keep the City, and the Commissions appraised of any new infor- mation along the way. Mr. Kasen informed Ms. Sporre that he would be the person for them to contact for any further information. Mr. Perkins stated that they have kept the City very of Medtronics activities because obviously they have interest in what the data reflects, and the City has all the data and information that they have to date. much advised a community been given Mr. Deblon informed the Commission members that they may voice any of their concerns, if they have some, regarding the EAW at either the Planning Commission meeting, or at the City Council meeting. The Commission concurred with this procedure. MOTION by Mr. Svanda, seconded by Mr. Engstrom, to recommend to the Planning Commission, and.to the City Council, to advise the MPCA to take the appropriate steps get all the data regarding the possible creosote contamination. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SPORRE DECLARED THE MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. 3. CONTINUED: ONAN/MEDTRONIC CREOSOTE PROBLEM MOTION by Mr. Svanda, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to continue the Onan/Medtronic Creosote Problem. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SPORRE DECLARED THE MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. 4. CONTINUED: NOISE ORDINANCE Mr. Deblon stated that staff recommends that this item be con- tinued because of the lengthy previous item. MOTION by Mr. Svanda, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to continue the Noise Ordinance item. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSOiV SPORRE DECLARED TIiE ITEM CONTINUED. 5. CONTINUED: TRUNK HIGHWAY 10/NORTH CROSSTOWN Ms. Sporre questioned if Mr. Deblon had an update on this item? Mr. Deblon stated that there was no new information, and would like the item continued. Ms. Sporre gave the new Commission member, Mr. Engstrom an up- date on this item. ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING� SEPTEMBER 16� 19Q0 PAGE 13 MOTION by Mr. Svanda, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to continue the Trunk Highway 10/North Crosstown item. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SPORRE DECLARED THE ITEM CONTINUED. 6. CONTINUED: NPC-5 Mr. Deblon stated that he had the opportunity to talk with Mr. A1 Perez today, and that Mr. Perez told him that nothing much has transpired. He stated that Mr. Perez stated that they hoped to qo to the October 28th PCA board meeting. Mr. Deblon stated that the staff will be notified when this does go to the PCA board, and that if it doesn't go before them October 28th, that it would the following Monday. Ms. Sporre then gave the new Commission member Mr. Engstrom an update on this item, and informed him of the Environmental Quality Commission's�position on this item. MOTION by Mr. Engstrom, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to recommend to the City Council that they authorize a representative from the City of Fridley, to convey their support on NPC-5 to the PCA board meeting, when this item comes before the PCA board. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALLVOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SPORRE DECLARED TH� ITEM CONTINUED. 7. CONTINUED: EARTH DAX CLEAN-UP MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr. Svanda, to continue the Earth Day Clean-Up. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSO� SPORRE DECLARED THE ITEM CONTINUED. The Commission composed a letter to be sent to others for help and sponsoring this item. 8. ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN, AND VICE-CHAIRMAN Vice-Chairman Sporre called for nominations. MOTION by Mr. Engstrom, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to appoint Mr. Svanda, as acting Chairman, and Mr. Peterson, Vice-Chair- man, until the next Environmental Quality Commission meeting, when all the Commission members are present. UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING AYE, VICErCHAIRPER50N SPORRE DECLARED THE PQOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. ,�- ..r+z�.,-cv* . . r,: i '-, . . ,� _.4 : . . - `'� w . � � � � . . �. � � . ��'FY OF FRIDL�Y � �� ,s PARKS & RECREATION CO1��IQIV ,v . ;: MEETING '' ` ' SEPTFMBER 17. 19$4 ���}+ ��_.��-�.�.._,.Y �. . . . � . �--- GA.�, T0 OR}?�R e Yi-¢e Chairper�'on Kondrick called the September 17� 1980, Parks & iiecreation Commission meeting to order at 7:�0 p.m. 3,� CAI,L s Membera Present� Dave Kondrick, Dan Al1en; Dick Young ' Mewbers �ibsent: Barbara Hughes, Jan Seeger Ather's Presenti Charles Boudreau, P�r3zs'& Recreation Director Jack Kirk, APPIiOVAL QF PA:2KS & RFCRSATION CQP."�':ISSI�N r:INUTES: AUGUST,_i�_SQ80 MQTION by Mr. Allen, seconded by iVfr,'. Young, to approve the August 13. � P�r3�s & Recreatfon minutes. UAQN A VOICE VOTE ALi:'YOTING AYE, VICE.-CHAIRMAN KONDRICK DECL9RED THE PHINUTES APPROVED'A5 WRI�TEN. APPROVA� OF AGEIdDAa MOTION. by Mr. Allen, seconded by Mr. Young, -to approve the agenda as written. : " 1. DIRECTOR'S REPORT A. Naturalist Division St�teti Fair E�;hibit M,�'. Boudreau reported that the Naturalist exhibit at the State Fair was!w211 attended by many visitors and that for the second year in a row fhis exhibit was awarded a"blue ri}�ban" for exceilence. Mr. Kirk added that the day he was there, there were many people in the building, but that no other exhibit was attracting so many people as this exhibit. Mr. Boudreau s_tatad tha'� tYsis was a good public relations service, and it dpes let the publi�`.realize that Fridley does have a Naturalist •Program, and that there will be a Nature Center facility located in Frir3 �ey . {; -� �, _ �..m�` � _w _ �__ ;:', PARKS-& RECREAT�QN__COi�I,S,�Z.Qn MEE�iN�,,�SEPTEMBER�,�,Q80• .g[�GE 2_ B. Updats Locke Park Mr. Boudreau stated there was a request at the iast meet�ing for the Commission to receive the cover letter:oE a memo that went to the City Manager, along witri the letter that came from the Police Dep�rt- ment. He further stated the park will be oper. from 7:30 a.m. to 9:30 p.m. and the park was being patrolled by County rangers. He said he felt that having the park patrolled on the weekends and during the week, will help eliminate some of the problems that have occurred in the past. Mr. Young questioned whether this Joint Powers Agreement could also be used for the the islands of Peace in the future? Mr. Boudreau stated that it had been tall€ed about, but until the County Master Plan to acquire the F.M.C. property is finalized, it would be difficult to p�edict is this type o£ agrement would be reached. C. Springbrook Update Mr. Boudreau stated that the building is coriing along fine. He further stated that they have sumitted a letter to�D4etropolitan Council, asking them to amend our current contract in the amount'of $7,000.00 to put a security screen on the front af the building. He sai�l he had been inform�d that it was nct unreas�nable to ask for an amendment in the contract and therefore"he had written a letter requesting this addi.tional money. A reply should be forthcoming within three or four weeks. M r. Boudreau stated th2.t they axe s-�ill looking for the completion date at the end of October 1980 with a grand opening in the spring. D. Updaie Advisorx Committee Mr. Boudreau stated that he had spoken with Ms. Hughes, and she had given him the following namess Dean Colemazi .. 123 Glen Creek M argaret Byrne�.,. 210 Rice Creek Blvd. Don Hagmann ... 6616 Fridley Streei He stated he received a letter Robert Ke12y ... 6230 7th from s Street � -�a_ �_.: ��;�. ,` �.�,� RECREA—TjO�I_����j:4�3.M�_.�II3r���'.�,M_$E�17.�;].480t PAGE 9 , � � � �. �. � � � � � � � .� � s .. . . � . ., �� . � ;�-� ".�M7c. Boud�eau st,ated he received a phpi�t��ail, expressinq interest, � ''� � from: �' `" { Danna. Hr�mbei;ttats .. 260 Rice Creek �lrid. He:�urther stated that all information is aupposed to be in by October,,lst; with the Advisary Committee'to be formulated and appointed at the October 15th Park & Recreation Commission meeting. He further urged,the Commission members that if they knew of anyone who would be interested, ar of value to the Committee, to please � contac� those individuals• - Mr. Young'stated that h$ lmows of some past members of the Parks & Recr-eation Commission, who he will contact, to see if they rtiou2d be interested in serving on the Committee. �..• Sixmmer Athletic Report Nfr. K'srk stated that there was the most participation in this summer`s program than ever before, since he,has'been involved with tkie City. He atated that they have agaiin worked very closely with the Youth Sport's Assoc., and that all worked out very well. The largest participant sport was softball. He stated that they had more teams this year than they have ever had, and ior the first time they had to ssi a limit on the num-ber di` teams that �Lhey could take into the league. It was decide'c� "'` that.it would be apgropriate to give first priority, to those '�eams t2:at had been;in the league -Ghe previous yeax. Therefore, %hese returning teams were allowed to register one week earlier. � i�e stated that they did have some problems, one was that some pY the returning teams assumed that they had an indefini.te time �o, get their entr�`iae's in, and neglected to make it to the manager's meeting. He stated that they did accomodate all the returning<teams, and many new teatns f'or a total of 103 teams• &�r.: Kirk theri.handed out to the Commission members a 1980 �ridley So�tball Statistics sheet. He stated that they did have �o'turn away eignt teams from participation. He stated that they d'id ha,ve three �eams removed for not compling with the el�.gibility,requzremsnts. He stated that there were three t�urnaments a:j.so, by'the Fridley Tigers Hockey Booster Club, '�he Fridley C�venant Church, and by Bob`s Produce. �Jir. Kirk state� �hat all in all they had a good summer, but that there wer� a��ew,problems. One axea that had a problem, was,in sportmanship. Hs stated that there were three incidents r��;bat throv�ing, tYtat they had to deaL with. He stated that he �ti1d like to have the policy that if a player gets booted out of ;a �gaa�sse for unsport�nanlike conduct, that they are auto,natically saa�pended from pl.aying in the next game. M�. Allen questioned if the Bob's Produce %eam was the same one �hat had com� before the Commission? � �;: PARISS & REdREATION COMMISSION MEETING�_�EPTEMBER�,t__]j80 PAGE.4 Mr. Kirk stated that yes it was the same team that had received a tie vote from the Commisszon, so they went to the City Council, which then granted them permission to allaw the tournament. Mr Kirk stated that regardirig tournaments, that he and Mr. Boudreau have talked about it, but have nat as yet come to any conelusions on a fee structure. He stated that it costs the City, anywhere Fro� �00.00 to $500.OQ:for � weekend tournatnent, Mr. Boudreau state3 that in=the past there has never been an individual team that has requested putti:ng on a tourrxament. He stated that in the past it has been local non-pro�it , organizations, such as the Jaycees,'the Fireme�, the Hockey Booster's, etc. These clubs have assisted the City throughout the year, so that the'Ci.ty felt that they should be assisted in having their tournaments. He stated that now though wi�h precedent having been set, with an individual tournament, that he ieels they could expect ten to fi�teen teams requesting weekend tournaments, and £or this reason, he wou�.d like to have a fee structure set, before next season. or maybe �ot allow any weekend tournaments. Mr. Young questioned if anything had come f'rom the Commissions auggestion to Bob°s Produce of a giit to the Park & Recreation for a tournsm�nt. ASr. Boudreau stated that'the $200 deposit check had been received and cashed by the City.: 2. NEW BUSIIvESS: A. 1980 Fall Athletic Fee Schedule Mr. Kirk handed the Commission members the proposed 1980-81 Basketball and Volleyball Fees sheet. He stated that these are the £ees that they are posposing for the`Winter Basketball and Volleyball. He stated that all the fees have been increased. The largest increase was-for the Men's Opem Basketball which is going from $160.00 to $220.00. Ae stated the reason for this was because the of€iciating costs have risen, and two officials per game from the Association'cost_ $30 per game, Also, there is a requirement to have a gym supervisor at the schaol. He stated that these fees are in''keeping with what similar communities are charging for their leac�ues. D1r. Kirk stated that regardinq.tfie Women's Volleyball, there are three ootions for League play, and they are not sure at this time which structure th�y wi11 tellow. For background knowlege, he said, �' F �;. �5,,,;�FiEGREATION ,�i�4�SIQN- ���� �,_. 7,a...�9$�., PAGE 5 : � '�Xsree 3!ears �a�gs� they,�iad twe]:�e teams, for the Fun Volleyball. A£ter that season. qr�e of the teams, caa� �p one of the Park ' &'Recreat%ssn Commissian meetings, and sts�ted �Ghat the league shoul�i _be. mo.re cou�pe�itive, and that "w�,s w�ist the communYty wanted.. -.They wanted strict enforcemem� u� �he rules, good oY3iciating, and representation at the 3�ate Tournament. • He-stated that therefore they were accomodated, He stated that then the teams dropped to six. He'said that last year the number then dropped down to four tea.as. of which during the season one team guit leaving a total of three teams. He stated that for this reason, that three years ago there were twelve �eams� and now-only three, that they feel that this is not wh�i'�.the.conmunity wants. He stated that therefore, he has sent'a letter out to all the twelve teams that had participated three years ago, infoxming them that they are ' �oirig to expl�re, going to a Fun League this year. Hopefully this will encourage as much participation as possible. Mr. Kirk stated that' the deadline is November 17th Y.or the fees to be`in, plus the requirement of the $�0.40 eligibility deposit. He'stated the managers meetings are set for Oetober 28th , and November bth. Mr. Al1en questioned as to what is the minimum number oi' gacaes these teatns would play? , Mr: Kirk state� that there-is a minimu�n''oi ten matches, or games including the playofis. M�. Kirk stated �hat the Fun leagues fee's have increa,sed about 1(?�, and the Apen leagues about 30�, which can be attributed to the increases for officiating. MOTION by Mr. Young,;seconded by Mr. Allen to accept the Fee's Schedule, as presented by Mr. Kirk. UPf�N A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN KONDRICK, DECLARED TFIE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSI,Y. B. 1981 Softball Recommendations Mr. Kirk stated that the Eirst recommendatian woulc. be , fOr player eligibility. Frid'ey is iacing the same problem as all othE�r communities> in that it zs very simple ior someone to register in several communities. He:stated that he would like to recommend that the eligibility ;degqsit be increased to `$1p0.06 from the previous $50.00, artd also to require a secand identiYication, on anyone whose drivers license is s�amped 'duplicate', such as a•property tax statement, W-2 �� �i ra �' PgRKS�&_�ECF�EAmIO__IV�CONfMI�SION _M�F.•.�?NG, $EP�.'II'Q$FA t 9._ 1 gBQr��.GE 6 Porm. or oheckb�ak. He stated that this requirement of a valid Minnesota Drivers .license,a� a eligibility requirement, With a second back-up,identification, woald hopefully cut down the people that are ineligible. Secondly Mr. Kirk stated, they have had problems ini�h teams who have been in tlZe lea�ue, for several years.' They ssem to feel that they do hpt need to attend the managers meeting. He stated that a-lot oi the misunderstanding comes from them not atten�ing'the meeting. He further stated that frcm a roster of S0 to 20 people, they should be a,bl:e to have at least one team member attend the manager°s'meeting. He suggested that this recommendation would be to have someone from ea.ch team at the meeting. Another recommendation, he state@, would be to notify the returtZing teams of the returning team priority basis, so that they would have one week to sign up, beeause of the limited number af leagues. Mr. Young siated that �they could publish a raster list, tha-t is then mailed to the players. Mr. Kirk state3 that would also be helpful, so that maybe anyone that is ine2igible, would be spatted.' He stated that this also might incourage the teams to police themselves, which is want they v�ould-lik�. In summary he stated, these were the recommendations� 1. 2. 3• 4. 5• Eligibility requirement of a valide state drivers with a secbnd i.D.'on licenses atamped duplicate. Increase the Eligibility deposit to $1Q0.00 Requir•e a representative from each returning team the Managers meeting. liceneE,__ to be at Give the returnzng,teams a one week priority basis ior regi.s- tration. Have two nights to set up checking of eligibility of plaers on each registered team in-the leayue. MOTION by Mr. Young, secondEd byi�r. Allen to adopt the recomm- endatio.ns of the Parks Fc Recreation Staffs Mr. Kirk, for the 1981 season. UPON A VOIGE VOTE AI,L VOTING AYE, VICE`-CHAIRMAN KONDRICK, DECLARED Tiii. MOTION PASSED liNANIi'tIOUSLY. 5. OTHER SUSINESS Mr. Kirk stated that the Fail Program is the bi.ggast, outside of the Summer progratn that �hey haa�; ever had. ADJOU RI�'!VIEN T s i�[OTION by �Ir. Allen secended by Mr. Young, to adjourn. UPOP1 A VOICE VOTE, AZL VOTING AYE, VICE-GHAIRMAN KONDRICK, DECLARED THfi'PAF2K5 & REGREATION CO�yi14YiSSIQN h:�FTING ADJQURNED AT $:45 p.m. Res�ejctfully subrai.tted. � -C',Li.c<� �� -�' �� _ Elaine Reed, Recor3ing Seeretary __,� City of Fridley APPEAL� COMMISSION MEETING - 5EPTEMBER 30, 1980 Page 1 CALL TO ORDER: Chairwoman Schnabel called the Appeals Commission meeting of September 30, 1980 to order at 7:30 p.m. , ROLL CALL: � Members Preser:t: Virginia Schnabel, Jim Plemel, Patricia Gabel, Alex Barna Members Absent.: Others Present: Dick Kemper Darrell Clark, Chief Buildinq Official APPROVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 16, 1980 N.OTiON by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Pla�nel, that the Appeals Commission minutes of September 16, 1980 be approved as written. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 1. VARIANCE REQUEST PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO REDUCE THE REOUIRE;D SSDE YARD SETBACK ON A WRNER LOT FROM 17-1/2 FEET TO 0 FEET, HOUSE A 'S. ADDITION TO PdECHANI �y Gera11 EI. Kangas, BY 26 FOOT ADDITION TO AN EX 4. AIQD AT,L OF LOT 5. BLOCK 7 LE, THE SAME�BEING 5530 6TH STREET td.E... ethxStreet N.E., Fridley, Minnesota 55432). Gerald H. Kangas, 5530 6th Street N.E_, Fridley, MN, was present: MOTION by Mr. Barna� seconded by Mrs. Gabel, to open the public heaxing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN 5CHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7032 P.M. � Chainvoman Schnabel read the Staff Report: ADMZNISTRI!TIVE STAFF REppRT 5530-6th Street N,E. A. PUBLIC PU.RPOS� (iERVED BY RE(J,[JIREM&�TT: Seation 205.053, 48,{r5a, zequires a side yard width on a street side of a wrner lot to be not less than 17.5 feet. Pu}�lic purpose served by this requirm�ent is to maintain a higher degree of traf£ic visibility and to reduce the "line of siyht" encroach.ment into the neighbor's front yard. B. STATED HARDSFIIP: "Need variance to extend living room and bedroom out 12 feet on t'�e south side of house. We are unable to acguire additicnal land becacse we are adjacent to a street right oP way." � APPEALS COMMISSION MrETING - September 30, 1980 Page 2 C. ADMINISTF2ATNE STAE'F REVIL•W: The existing dwelling was constructed in 1953 with a side yard setback on the south side of 12 fee.t. ;he Universitp East Service Road was constructed 5ometime in the early 1960's making the existing house non-comforming to the 17,5 foot side yard setback tor a corner lot. There i� a 41 root boulevard (verified by �ngineering) between the proposed addition and the back of curb, and the house adjacent to the rear lot line faces Sth S�eet, so the addition would not obstruct traffic visibili �� or the neighbor's "line of sight". The only problem would occur if and when the service road was widened to the extent that the boulevard would be eliminated. Si�ce the surface width of the service road is 30 feet, is it doubtful if this road would be widened, Mr. Clark showe3 the Commission aerial photographs and suqgested that the owner petition for partial vacation of the land along the service road as it is really not our right-of-way. He said it was acquired from the Interstate Highway and was tuxned over to the City but not signed by the State. He also stated that it would be a lot of red tape to get somethirn3 vacated that has been acquired with Federal funds, possi.bly 5 years. Chairwoman Schnabel suggested that they try to acquire land in that process all ' along the service road for all of the houses in that area and wanted to know if the City ar'the homeowners should mal;e th�` application. Mr. Clark felt that it hrould be beneficial and they could survey those homeowners in that area and have them siqn a petition and al.so help them in figuring out where the alignment would be and to help them with the process. Mrs. Gable asked Mr. Kangas if he had drawings of the addition. He stated that the contractor had them. She then asked him if the roof lines would be tied together. He stated no, that they want to save the window on the second floor as the childrens' bedroom is upstairs, that the addition will. be right below that. He also stated that there will be a basement and the work will be started right away. MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mrs. Gabel, to close the public hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHIVABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEP.RING CLOSED AT 7:45 P,M. � � � � � � � - MOTION BY Mr. Ple�nel, seconded by Mr. Barna to approve the variance to reduce the required side yard setback on a corner lot from 17-1/2 feet to 0 feet, to allow the construction of a 12 foot by 26 foot addition to an existing house located on the south half of Lot 4, and all of Lot 5, Block 7, Hamilton's Addition to Mechanicsville, the same being 5530 6th Street N.E., Fridley� Minnesota. UPON A UOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCANABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIEb UNANIMOUSLY. � .,;:.�.;.. „�. APPE7\LS COMMZSSSON ME:'TING - September 30, 1980 � Paqe 3 2, � VARIANCE REQUEST YURSUANT 20 CHAPTER 205 OF TIIE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO RE- DUCE THE SEDE YARD�SETSACK ON TH� LIVING SID� ON A DWELLING FROM THE RE- QUIRED 70 FEET TO 5 FEET, TO ALLOW THE CONSTAUCTION OP AN 18 FOOT BY ' � 15.4 FOOT ADDITIqN FOR LIVING AREAS BEHIND 21N EXISTING ATTACHED GARAGE, IACATED ON LOT 36, AUDITOR'S SUBDIVSSION N0..92,.THE SAME BEING 1640 GARDENA AVENUE N.E. (Request by Keith E. McAmis, 1640 Gardena Avenue N.E., Fridley, Minnesota 55�132). Keith.E. McAmis and Ingrid-Ann McAmis, 1�40 Gardena Avenue, Fridley, were present. MOTION by Mrs. Gabel, seconded by Mr. Barna, to open the public hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, I�LL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:48 P.M. ' Chaixwoman Schnabel read the Sta�£ Report: ADMINZSTRATIVE STRFF REPORT � 1640 Gardena Avenue N.E. A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SfiRV�D BY REQUIREMENT: Section 205.053, 4B, requires a minimwn 10 foot side yard setback for living area. Public �u�se served by this requiresner.t is to maintain a minim�.un-'oP" 20 feet bebaeen living areas in a3jac•:n± structures a:id 15 ieet between garages and living areas in adjacent structures to reduce exposure to confla,rutian of fire. It is also to allow for aesthetically pleasing open area around residential structures which prevents overcrowding of structures in a residential neighborhood. . 8. STATED AARISSAIP: "Mrs. McAmis is developing leg and foot probl.ems and the additional laundry activity caused by our two sma21 children require the relocation of our laundry area and food freezer from the basement to the ground floor. The prcpo5ed addition would provide a utility room for this zelocation besides providing a family room extension to the kitchen." C. ADbiINIST42ATll.'E STAFF REVIEW; The existing attached garaqe is Iocated 5 feet from the west lot litie with the kitchen of the dwelling unic jutting out 15 feet further back than the back o£ the gazage. The proposed 18 ioot by 15 :oot addition would be built behind the garage and tie i3�to th� side of the kitchen, putting the ad3ition 5 feet from the west lot line also. T'ne dwelling on the 1ot to the west is positioned ahead (toward the street) of tliis dwelling allowing the requirement for a mir.i;�wn of 20 feet bet�aeen adjacent living areas to i�e met. Because of the size of these lots (80' x 295') the addition would not seem to be presenting an ovc;rcrowded appearance to the neighboriiood. APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING - SePtember 30, 1980 Page 4 Mr. Clark showed Cottanission aerial photographs and ttie houss plans. The house has a flat roof and the addition would have a flat roof, also. Chainaoman Schnabel commented that there doesn't seem to be any problems with this request. Ns. McAmis st-ated that Sussel will do the exterior work, a separate contractor will do the re-roofing and he will do the interior work. He also stated that there will be no basement, just a crawl space. Mr. Barna asked about fire resistant sheet rock bet�een the garage and the addition. Mr. Clark stated that the code has changed for additions between the garage and kitchens from 5/8" to 1/2" gypsinn. MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Plemel, to close the public hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 7:58 P.M. MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mrs. Gabel, to approve the variance request to reduce the side yard setback on the living side on a dwelling from the required 10 feet to 5 feet, to allow the construction of an 18 foot by 15.4 foot addition for living areas behind an existing attached garage, located on Lot 36, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, the same being 1640 Gardena Avenue N.E., Fridley, Minnesota 55432. 3. OTHER BUSINESS: Discussion of New Zoning Ordinance Chairw�nan Schnabel asked the other Commission members how they felt about the ,,,, conversion of single fami2y dwellings to two-family dwellings. She stated that public review of the new zoning ordinance is still open with the planning coimnission. She also stated that lot size-£'or one dwelling unit in Rl is-75 feet and for two famiYy in R2 is 10,000 square feet. Chainaoman SchnaY�ei said that, especially with today's economy, there are a lot of people who live in R1 who want to convert rooms in their homes to rental units and they may have to turn down the requests as one of the var;ances would be lot size. Mr. Clark said it is possible that two families may wanc to share the ownership at one home and Chairwoman Schnabel said according to the new zoning ordinance this wouldn't be possible. Mr. Clark suggested changing single dweZling de£inition. Mr. Barna stated right now we are doing under a special use perntit and felt that it would be more sensible under the variance than the special use penait. Mr. Clark said people use special use permit instead of rezoning as it takes 3 to 5 months for rezoning and 6 weeks for a special use permit. Mrs. Gabel also mentioned that neighbors tend to get quite upset over rezoning. After further discussion, ii- was decided that Cnaizwoman Schnabel would push for deleting special use permit in the R1 area and request petitioner to go for variance or rezoning and that the burden of proo£ is on the petitioner. MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mr.. Barna, to adjourn. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALI, VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECI.F�R�D THE APPF.ALS COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 16, 1980, ADJOLiNRED AT 8:17 P.Di. Respectfully suUmitted, DeboYah Niznik, Recording Secretary �'"' � � iV�� CALL TO ORDER: * CITY OF FRIDLEY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 8, 1980 Chairman Harris called the October 8, 1980, Ptanning Commission meeting to order at 7:37 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present Members Absent Others Present Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenfels, Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Svanda, Mr. Oquist (arr. 8:03 p.m), Ms. Hughes Mr. Wharton Jerrold Boardman, City Planner Kent Hill, Economic Development Assistant David Fuerstenberg, 1601 - 66th Ave. N.E. APPROYAL OF SEPTEMBER 24, 1980, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTIUN by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to approve the September 24, 1980, P amm �g Comnission minutes as written. Upon a voice vote, all votfng aye, Chairman Harris declared the motion carried unanimously. 1. VACATION REQUEST: SAV #80-t1, BY PETI7I0N 9-1980: Vacate 6 foot alley easement e�ong the East side of Lots -4, Block �, Oak Grove Addition, apd the 6 foot alley easement along tf�e West side of Lot 12, Block 1, Moore Lake Park Second Addition, all north of 66 1/2 Avenue N.E. Mr. Boardman stated they have received 100% owner agreement for the vacation of this alley. This vacation includes the three properties adjacent to the alley plus the tax forfeit lot. He stated he had called the County Auditor, Charles Lefebvre, on Sept. 23, and the County does not have any problem with vacating the easement. The County's policy is to go along with what the residents want. He stated the City would want to retain 10 feet of the westerly section of the alley right-of-way for utility and drainage easements. MOTION BY MS. HUGHfiS, SECONDED BY AII2. SVANDR� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY�COUNCIL APPROVAL OF VACATION REQUEST: SAY #80-11� BY PETITION 9-1980: VACRTE 6 FOOT ALLEY WASSMIiNT ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF IATS .T=-4, BLOCR 1, OAK CROVE ADDITION, AND THS 6 F1�OT ALLEY EASEMENT ALONG THS WIf5T SIDE OF � LOT I2, BLC7CK 2, MOORE LAKfi PRRK SECOND ADDITION, ALL NORTH OF 66 I/2 AVENUE N.&., WITH THE STIPULRTION TXAT TH&' CITY RETAIN 30 FEET OF THE WESTfiRLY SECTION OF THE ALT.fi'Y RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR UTILITY AND DRAINAGE fiASEMENTS. UpON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHRIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 8, 1980 PAGE 2 2. VACATION REQUEST: SAV #80-12, BY PETITION 10-7980: Vacate 12 foot alley easementin B%c� in ition owne y inneapolis Water Works). Mr. Boardman stated that the Planning Commission should note on page 29 of the agenda that there are presently streets. One street was vacated and all of the alleys are vacated except for Block 9. All of the rest of the streets are non-vacated. Because of the City Council's policy, they can vacate alleys but they cannot vacate streets. This request is from Minneapolis Water Works. Minneapolis Water Works owns 100% of the p�operty; therefore, there is a 100% agreement by petition to vacate the alley. Staff has no problem with this request. MOTSON BY MS. SCHNABEL, SSCONDED BY MR. TREUENFELS, TO RE'COMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF VACATION REQUEST: SAV #80-12� BY PETTTION 10—I980: VACATE 12 FDOT ALLEY PsASSMENT IN BLOCK 9, BSRLIN ADDITION (QWNED BY MINNERPOLIS WATER WORKS). UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 1 1 '' �' � 1 1 " 1 1 1 ��1�1�1SAy J IJ•ld�\��O1f�1�11��C�i�[f�3ii�ltl�ad�15O,1Ir�Yd�l�l- Mr. Boardman stated this item would have to be continued, because he was still waiting for a response from the City Attorney. MOTION BY MR. TR&'UENFELS, SECONDED BY M5. HUGHES, TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE RMENDME'NT TO THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 4. RECEIVE MEDTRONIC ENVIRONMENTAL ASSES5MENT WORKSHEET: Mr. Boardman stated that Staff has reviewed this document but found that the creosote problem was not mentioned to any extent within the document itself. At the City Council meeting on Monday, October 6, the City Council agreed to have a letter go along with the document when the document is received by the Environmental Quality Board (EQB). This letter states that the Pollution Control Agency (PCA) has reviewed the creosote problem, and if the PCA approves it, the City of Fridley will go along with the PCA's recorrenendataons. Mr. Harris stated he would like the following two pieces of information included as part of the record: (1) "Pentachlorophenol"; (2) "Review of Creosote Use in Natural Waters" Mr. Svanda stated he had reviewed the Enviroramenial Assessment Worksheet (EAS); and, as Staff had mentioned, there was no mention of the creosote situation. He felt that one of the purposes of an EAS is to pull all pieces �ogether as far as potential environmental concerns. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 8, 1980 PAGE 3 Mr. Svanda stated he thouqht the EAS was a good document except for the fact that no mention was made of the creosote problem, and he felt there were a number of places where it could have been addressed. One example was on page 21 under "Other Environmen�al Goncerns". Mr. Svanda stated he had attended the City Council meeting on October 6 and made a presentation to the City Council as a citizen of the City. Following his presentation to the City Council, they entered into a discussion about the creosote problem. Following that discussion, the City Council decided to include the transmittal letter with the document. He stated he was satisfied with the letter approach by the City Council, Mr. Harris stated his real concern is with the previous use of the dump pit which is very close to the Po ce Creek bank, and he could not help believing that there is probably a danger or hazard from the previous wse of the dump pit. He felt someone should get a handle on Rice Creek and find out if the thing does have some PCP's. He felt there is a real lack of information as to whether there is a health hazard over there. He stated he is very concerned about pentachlorophenol which is a very dangerous chemical. (Mr. Oquist arrived at theireeting at 8:03 p.m.) Ms. Hughes stated the problem with creosote and pentachlorophenol is what the decomposition products are, which are highly dangerous. It is not the penta- chlorophenol that is the problem, but the decomposition products. There could be a real problem at the drainage pit by the Creek. Mr. Harris asked what action was necessary by the Planning Comnission on this document. Mr. Boardman stated that the EAW was for the expansion of Medtronics. He stated the Planning Comnission had atready made recommendations after their initial meeting. These recommendations were taken into consideration and went before the City Council on October 6. He stated that no further action was necessary by the Planning Comnission unless they felt some issues were missed or needed further consideration. Ms. Hughes stated the only place those things would be effective would be at the PCA Board meeting on October 28. MOTION BY MS, HUGHES, SBCONDED BY MR. TREUENFfiLS, TO RECEIVE THE MEDTRONIC ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALLSDTINC AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DfiCLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Harris stated he felt the City of fridley should have some representation at the PCA meeting on October 28 to express the City's concerns. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 8, 1980 PAGE 4 MOTION BY MR, SVANDA, SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST, TO RfiCOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THAT TNERfi' BE REPRESENTATION FROM THB CITY OF FRIDLEY RT THE POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCY'S MfiSTING ON OCTOBER 28� 1380,.T0 EXPRESS�THE CITY'S CONCERN RBOUT THE CREOSOTE PROBLEM AT TIiFi' ONAN SITE AND TO ENCOURRGE THE PCR BOARD TO TAKE WHRTEVER ACTION OR Mfi'ASURES NSCESSARY TO PROVIDE FOR A SPESDY RESOLUTION OF THE SITUATION. UPpN A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYS, CIiAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THfi MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 5. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 9, 1980, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. COMMISSIDN MINUTES: MOTION BY 1�2. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MR. TREUENFEIS, TO RECEIVE THE SEPTEMBER 9, 1980, COMMUNITY DfiVEZAPMENT COMMISSION h12NUTES. Mr. Oquist stated that the Community Development Comnission had reviewed the ordinance for multiple dwellings and had made a rrrotion recommending additions and changes to the multiple dwelling ordinance to license condominiums. He stated the Comnission's main thrust is to require a license as a way of controlling condominium conversion. Mr. Boardman stated that since the Community Development Commission`s last meeting, the multiple dwelling ordinace had been changed, so it would have to be brought back again to the Comnunity Development Comnission for review. UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYS, G7iAIRMAN HRRRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. � 6. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 11, 1980, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: MOTION BY MS. SCHNAB&L, SECONDED BY hII2. TRfi'UE'NFELS� TO RECE'2[�E THE SSPTSMBSR 11, 1980, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMfiNT RUTAORITY MINUTES. UPON R VOICE VOTfi, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED TH& MOTION CARRIfiD UNANIMOUSLY. 7. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 16, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTSON BY MR. SVANDA, SECONDED BY ,�II2. TRh'UENFELS� TO RECEIVE THE SEPTEMBfiR 16, 2980, ENViRONMfi'NTRL QUALITY COINMISSION MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOSING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARSD THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 8. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 17, 1980, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MS, HUGHES, SfiCONDED BY MS. SCHPIABEL, TO RECEIVE TH8 SEPTEMBER 17, 1980, PARKS & RECREATION CQtlMISSION MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRMAN HRRRIS DECLARfiD THE MpTION CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 8, 1980 PAGE 5 9. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 30, 1980, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY M5. SCHNABEL, SECONDED BY h1R. 2'REUENFSLS, TO RECEIVE THE SEPTEMBER 30, 1980, APPEALS COMFIISSION MINUTES. Ms. Schnabel stated the major discussion at the Appeals Corrmission meeting was on the new zoning ordinance, and she would hold any comnents until the P7anning Comnission discussed the �ew zoning ordinance at their next meeting. UPQN A POICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 10. OTHER BUSINESS: A. Notice of P4blic Hearing from'Columbia Neights (for a retail establishment to obtain a conditional use permit for a utility shed) MOTION BY MR. TREUENFELS, SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST, TO RECEIVE THE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HBARING FROM COLUMBIA HEIGHT5. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION BY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MR, TREUENFELS�� TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTSNG RYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE OCTOBER 8, 1980, PLANNING COMMISSION RDJOURNED AT 9:Z0 P.M. 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Nit;=1e^:(c�:ani2e c'erivativesl- �sco�iz2a b?ood toxins hzving �pare- + cia'aie water solubility. P^�_pC"'^��.0 :VG�POC8iu0?iS—'aic'l.^iJ 3S@ __��cC� OF �°�^_� Ca^...t'CIIlOo'u^^1C 2�u2:�5. --,.-- '.;..:`.,_ is c=1or����a;:, .� �so�� aresent c:.� .�.�ao .,., c_1e^i�3ted �o - _ ;-- _ -.__ __ ^..:L-���`i � , - -, , - , .M��.. . . -�.1 � iJ ._. . . . _ . . . . .� .. � . . . . . --n- , . - . . �._ . -._.� ... „ .._.._.. _._ � . ..v_...._...._, .. � !� ...__ _.�� _.._i...... __ _ ..,._ �.' _. ' .. .. __ ...�.. 2_�. -:���-� .-.:� � ... .�.. _ . . .. ..�_ . ... .. �.i�. ..:J ��.. ���.i�.._ [.� � _ �..., � � _ ti .n .�.i_�_..i._..._rv ._.,_u .._�.i f � 4 � . , _ . ... _q ; __ _. .�_ ,,-�- .. � .. . .`..i:.�� Jr I.���,� �..J .� _..._._-l_.�.t+ �... C.'^ ._ j.� '_�.J _ .......1=' . . . 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The dilution factor i.n rivers is probebZy great eac::oh to r�inic�iz� an;� raeasurable ingact oa caarine iife. ^�cor<.^c.*.dations (Frad Arr.old) C:.' � nu^ber 1 grade creosote (t�e g:�::� orit:: ��� �i��e�t boilin� r�o..) .-.c::l.d �e u;�d on ne:� pilin�y. Pilings inp.e�__�te3 :rith i�sacticides or keaT,� ��t_].s s1:ou2d not be used. Pilings uhich have been used previonsly or rrhz.c:� have been a�zd so as to re^�ove water soluble components o£ creosote are pre- i�rred p�.� �icuZarly uhere c;ater tu.*•aover rates are low. 0 PENTACHLOROPHENOL�' � CHEPffCAL NAME: Pentachlorophenol • ALTEttrtArE NA.��S: �wicide-7, penchlorol, Pentacon, Penwar, k'eedone, �� '� �' Sinituho . . pRINCIPAL USE: Herbicide, wood preservative, defoliant, molluscicide SA.�LE DESCR2YTION: Technical material, 96%. • . . Stll4dARY OF ACUfE TQKICITY Test Organism 96 hr. LC50 Test Organism 96 hr. LCSQ Temp. & 954 C. L. . Temp. & 45R C. L. . Species �8) �C) �ug/�� Species �8) (�) (ug/U . ' 68 68� Chinook salmon 1.0 10 (48 - 95) Channel catfish 0.8 20 (58 - 80) 52 32 Rainbow trout 1.0 I1 (48 - 56) Bluegill 0.4 15 (23 - 44) �. '� 205 .head minnotiv 1.1 20 (179 - 234) �� • � 1.44 ; •� : . __ . .. _ _...._.. _.�...__...._.._.......,. _. _ �� ti