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PL 01/09/1980 - 30527� � ,��-. CITY OF FRIDLEY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 9, 1980 - CALL TO ORDER• Chairman flarris called the January 9, 1980, Planning Commission meeting to order at 7 :45 P .M. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Mr. Harris, Mr. T�reuenfels, Mr. Langenfeld, Mre Oquist, Ms. Gabel Members Absent: Ms. Hughes � Othexs Present: Je�rold Boardman, City Planner � Bill Deblon, Associate City Planner APPROVAL OF DECII�ER 19. 1979. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTTON by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to approve the December 19, 1979, Plarining Commission minu�tes as written. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL �IOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN AARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 1• VACATIO� REQUEST, SAV � 79=05, BY RICHARD {�,AHN: 1'acate � the drainage and utility easements,.31; in �lock 1, ATice Wall Addition: The south 10 feet of Lots i and 2, over the south 1O feet and the�east 5 feet of Lot 3, over the west a 1=��t of Lot 4, over th� west 5 feet of Lot 5; which lies ;north of the easterly extension c�f tne south line of Lot 3, � and the west 10 feet of that part of Lot 5, which lies south �of the easteriy extension of the south line of Lot 3, over �ihe 'west 1J feet of Lot 6, over the w�st 10 feet of Lot 7, and on Lot 24, which lies vrest of a line draarn paral�el avith and ; distant 356.0 feet eas� of the most westeriy 7inz or said �: Lot 24 and its northerly extension. � Mr. Boardman explai.ned these easements were placed on the plat originally to allow €or the handling of any potential drainage problem. However, the pond that was located on the final building plan would be capable of handling a 50 year storm and the staff felt that would be adequate drainage. The garages and townhouses have been built over these easements. He further �plained grading has been completed for the pond and any further grading would only be on the residential lots. That grading would not affect the ponc� size. Mr. Boardman added the pond would normally have a few areas of standing water, but basically the pond would only have water in it after a rain or melting geriod. MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Oquist to approve Vacation Request SAV ��79-05, by Richard Kahn. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTII�G AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSI,Y . P,LANNING COMMISSION MEETING JANUARi� 9 1980 PAGE 2 2. Receive Parks and Recxeatiori Comm�ission minutes• December 12' g�979 '�'�• ` a•' '.. : �• MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld to receive the Parka and RecreatioT._ Commiasion minutea of December 12, 1979. ,. ,o;;�;• , Mr. Laagenfeld queationed the dollar amount ($SA,000) o� .pag,�.2, paragraph.,2'i� . � Mr. Boardman stated that figures was correct. 7.'he city has put a$50,000 price tag for the construction of ope baseball diamond. If a business wish�sl::�o.l�av� a diamond named afeer L-liem, that figure would be the contributi�on required.� �... Mr. Harris asked Mr.�Boardman when the Spring Brook contract,�las. up::. • 3. - ,. � Mr. Boardman'replied in February of this year. The Spring Brook four�datiAn'��has not � renewed their contract since they feel they have done what they set .e�udt t�a'. do, which was' set up the� S�ring Brook Park area. - They have turned the ma.i.ntenance ��nd� tipkeep over to the ci,ty, which will be the only cost incurred by the cityo :T��'bu�Llding, to be located in the park, received a 100%,financing grant ($365-;0OO��f�om TrAWCON, ' through the Metropolitan Council. . , , ,, „ Both NL�. Harris and Mr. Langenfeld said their impression was �h,at;whea:th� contract was awarded, it would be an ongoing program. They batt�i were upset by_�the fact that the contract was not renr�aaed and felt many o�her people in;th� city would.be�:�pset also. `�� . � _ .. , . � .:. . ._ Ms. Gabel voic�d concern over the F.E.S.T. program aaid rep�rts.of v�ndalism; She statecl when she helped chaperon� the dances there� was a ra;tio of l. adia.lt tor;. evi�ry 30 teen->� ° agers, plus a policeman on duty. There Was, .at that tiYne, �o siguif,i.�ant prab�lems � - the dances. She stated the policeman was no longer at the dances and q�est3oned if there was enough chaperones. She felt this was a needed aerviee �nd the teenages do use it and hoped it would not be dropped. . :, :r UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED . UNANIMOUSLY. , ,. ' +. 3. Receive Environmental Qualitv Cou�ission Minutesi December 18 1979' . •f , MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to rece�tve the Emrironmental Quality Commission minutes of December 18,•1979. ... . , , . . , , � Nir. Langenfeld pointed out the discussion on pages 2- 8 regardin� NPC-5 ,��irport Noise Permit. It was asked if the Planning Co�ission-desi�ed to make a reco�enda- tion on this pexmit, similar to the action that the EQC,tooko. Basically.the pexmit (for new construct�on or modification) would be issued to an airport if all complicances on noise control had been met. Planning Co�anission felt they w ould like more informa- tion on the permit and the agencY that was to decide on the permit (MPCA) was presumed to have met by this time so their action would be of no consequence. Mr. Langenfeld also pointed out the discussion under "Other Business":on t'ke MWGC. This was an item discussed at a prevCous Planning Commission meeting and he felt the members would be interested it it. , : .; � � . �� Mr. Deblon noted the discussion on Trunk Highway 10/North Cross.town. He�said t��e �� Commission of MnDot had chosen the relocated Highway'10 alternative and tttat`the relocation eliminated 2 of the possible North Crossto�an routes. Air. Boardman pointed out that all reports on this project were not in at this time. � � PI:ANNING COMMISSION. MEETING, JANUARY 9, 1980 •� --�. � P3AGE 3 T7PON A VOXCE VOTE, ALL VOTING. AYE, CHAIRI�IA1� HAitR.IS ,DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED ,� UNAIQIMOUSLY. , , x- .., ., s.A. � .� _ .. 4. Continued: Proposed Chan�es �o Chaptea� 205. Zonin�: MOT�ON by,Mr. L�ngenfeld, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to receive the revised edition of the Proposed Changed to Chapter 205. Zaning. , Tlre C�nission`t�embers decided they wnuld like to look at the new document and h�w it was set up before disc�ssi:ng it. Mr. Boardman:said�the,"conter.� was basically the same, however, there had been some - juggling of districts, some were removed, some combined with others, and some re- named.._:�Th� changes the �omm�ssion had made previously on the book and�been incorpora- ted: in�:thi.s t�ook.. The onl�`itetn Mr. Boardman wanted the Co�is,sion to think about was the �xossibili.ty of adding a requirement stating a contractor must spend a X'/, of his tot�.l;corr�struction costs on lanascaping. Mr, Boardman noted 1- 27o could be the per cent;range.' Mr..Boardman said we negotiate now on this item and this requirement would si.mply by putting it up front as to what the city expects. This would also make the contractor budget a certain amount of dollars for landscaping in h�s total const�uction cos�s. ' The:,Planning�,Commis�sion had some prohlems with this idea. They felt it was not fair to ask commercial property to budget so ma,ny dollars for landscaping and not to do the same in ihe R districts. They also questioned the right that the city has in making som�one_sp�e�xd a•certai.n amount of money on anything. Another point brought u�, was �,..: ., th� ta�tr��tl�aiz evEn °if a contFactnr has set aside a certain amount of money for land- ; r.s.�aping, how ��.n -tha�t be� a guarantee that a good landscaping plan will be drawn up �`°'� . ,and used.. „ . .. - . , . Mr. Boardman explained this was a suggestion, other communities were adopting this requirement, and only wanted the Commission to think about it. UPON A VQICE 90TE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRiS DECLARED THE M�TION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, 5. Other Business: ' ' Mxo Treuenfels stated he and Mr. Harris attended a meeting with the Fridley Ministerial Comffiittee and found there was some overlap of social services in the city. This meetimg was`�oxE or less fact finding and they will also be meeting with the school district fo�.•_�Ch�e sam� reasbn. Mr.'Treuenfels said they will keep the Commission in- formed o€ their findings. .� � Mr. Harris said he;attended a Council meeting to get some precise information on the new park fees. He could get no real answers from the Council and felt if they desired a sluslx fund,�t�ey will have one. The new Environment Development Fee was evidently going to.be �harg�d and Mro Harris could not find out if this fee will be going into a specific park improvement program, in escrow or what. Mr. Harris said he objected to the City collecting a"park fee" when it should be called a"public service fze". �nes�.:fees usuailly go into the general fund and not a capital park improvement prog?cam as the� should. . 0 � � PLANNING CON'lNLLSSION MEETING. JANUARY 9. 1980 PAGE 4 � - .�� Mr. Harris also pointed out the Comprehensive Plan was still before the Council. It has had some major changes since°`�the Pla.�►ning CoaQnission last saw it. He said =�'°� the Counci�. was reluctant to set numbers on the housing needed in Fridley because � it will cause some major rezoning. i^ , , 7 Mr. Boardman said the numbers were not important. �Jhat �as important-was the goals and needa�of the city. The Metro Council was looking for low and moderate housing and what we obtain will be based on the funding that was available.�or that type of housing. The city has to provide the opportunity for housing of thi� type�,in this area. � ` .�- . , � Mr. LangenfEld suggested that the Council should not resume any type �� conversation or comments after the adjournment until they are sure a�l visual and'�.£�di6 equipment has been turned off . ADJOURNMLNT: _t". -' ,`�` !- - 'y;- MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Oquist t�'adjourn the 3an���q 9;�1980 meeting of the Planning Co�ission. -_--'- IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CI�AIRMAN HARR,IS DECLAR�� ti'HE �T-`�G[ ADJOURNED AT 10:10 P.M. • Respectfully submitted, r;;��,�`,L� i P�ula 8. Long, Recording cretary �