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PL 03/05/1980 - 30531r i"'1 r \ � CITY OF FRIDLEY PLANNING CONIl�lISSION MEETZNG, MARCH 5, 1980 CALL TO ORDER• Chairman Harris called the March 5, 1980, Planning Commission meeting to ar�er at 7;39 p.m. ROLL CALL• Members Present: Mr. Harris, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes (arr. 7:50 p.m.), Mr. Treuenfels, Ms. Gabel (for Ms. Schnabel), Mr. Langenfeld Members Absent: None Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner Jan Fickett, 1468 - 97th Ave. N.W. Kathaleen Vikesland, 270 - 117th Lane N.E. Steve Krenz, 1430 - 100th Ave. N.W. 1. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP ��80-01, BY KATHAT,EEN VIKESLAND; To alloca a child day care center in the adminsstrative and recreation building of the Georgetown Apartment Complex,�the same being 5750 East River Road N.E., per Section 205.071, 3, G, of the Fridley City Code, located on part of Tract B, Registered Land Survey No. 38. MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to open the public hearing for SP ��80-01 by Kathaleen Vikesland. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris declared the public hearing open at 7:40 p.m. Mr. Boardman stated that on Feb. 5, 1980, he had a conversation with Ms. Vikesland. She was requesting zoning information on the operation of a day care center at Georgetown Apartments. He told her that under the City Codes, this type of operation would be an allowed use within the apartment complex as an accessory use of that complex, if it was to be strictly for the complex itself. However, she did want to draw children from outside the complex, so this is the reason this is before the Planning Commission with a special use permit, since there is presently apartment camplex use on the land itself. Mr. Boardman stated he had no difficulty with the proposed day care operation, Mr. Harris asked Ms. Vikesland if she would explain the type of operation she was proposing. Ms. Vikesland stated it would be a day care center. They felt a day care center would not be very successful if they were to draw from the apartment complex �, only, and felt it would be a great benefit to the community. There is a great `r!'""� nAed for day care centers, and they would like to draw children from the community, rather than just the complex itself.. j � � � PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 5 1980 PAGE 2 . � Mr. Oquist asked if there was any problem with operating outside the apartment �� complex. , Ms. Vikesland stated, no, that the complex owners were in compleCe agreement with this operation. Mr. Oquist asked if Ms. Vikesland had any idea as to the enrollment. Ms. Vikesland stated she had no idea at this time. They were trying�to get an advance enrollment right now. She thought there was approximately 10-12 children under kindergarten age within the complex. They have a maximum capacity of 45 children. Mr. Langenfeld asked where the day care center would be located. Ms. Vikesland stbelowtwithWSeparatelentrancesttontheebacktfor eachcr omiandng. There are rooms this is what they would rent. Ms. Gabel asked about the parking situation and if there would be any problem in loading and unloading the children. Ms. Vikesland stated there is a horseshoe parking area, parking available in � tront of the office building, and a lane around the side, so they do not foresee � bl with arking spaces or the loading and unloading of children. any pro em p Mr. Boardman stated he did not see any proiusmthereewas�plentyiof�stacki gaarea. for getting into and out of the complex, p � Ms. Gabel asking during what hours would the day care center be operated? Ms. Vikesland stated the day care center would be open from 6:30 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. � Ms. Gabel asked if they had checked into the necessary licenses from the State of Minnesota and Anoka County for the day care operation. Ms. Vikesland stated, yes, they will be state licensed. They will be non- profit, and WiS1stem�atAdams School�during the winter and RooseveltiSchool public school y • during the summer. • Ms. Gabel asked Ms. Vikesland to explain how they operate as non-profit. Ms. Vikesland stated they will draw salaries for directors, a certified teacher, and aides, but any other proceeds will aot be profitable and will be passed on to a non-profit organization. Mr. Treuenfels stated he was concerned as far as the funding of the day care center. Would this be entirely paid for by the parents of the children or will they be receiving grants? . Y x �, f PL,ANNII`dG COMM�SSiON MCETTNG, N1A1tCH 5, 1980 PAGE 3 '��-- Ms. Vikesland stated they are not working with any state grants. Although � state grants are available,right now they did not feel the need for them. They have personal contributions, and to keep it operating,there will be fees charged to the parents. The fees will be $40 a week for full-time students and part-time fees will be lower. They will have an hourly rate for after- school children, but the minimum is $4.50 per day, Mr. Langenfeld asked if they would accept mentally handic�pped children. Ms. Vikesland stated they have gone into that with the licensing and whether or not to have a special program for those children. She really•did not feel they were qualified to take care of inentally handicapped children, but they would, of course, have to keep their enrollment open for all children. Ms. Gabel asked about the required safety codes. Mr. Boardman stated that prior to any opening, the City would require an inspection of the unit by the City Building Inspector, primarily because this type of operation constitutes an occupancy-type change within the building and therefore any changes would have to be done before the operation begins. The Fire Dept, would have to inspect the building also. Ms. Vikes�and stated the Fire Dept, has already inspected the building, and they are m aking provisions for what is required, such as smoke detectors, etc. The Health Dept, will be making inspections before they can be licensed, and -An�-- they will have regular �nspections by the Health Dept. Also, the Building Insgector was next on their list, but were told to wait for the decisions from the Planning Commissi�n and Ci:ty Council first. '--� �,--- Mr. Harris asked if there would be an outside play area with playground equip- ment. His concern was also that the property was about 100 ft. from the riverbank. Ms. Vikesland stated that to be state licensed, they must have an outside play area with playground equipment. They have talked to the state consu�.tant, and if they fence the area, there will be enough square footage for.the number enrolled. It will meet all the safety requirements. Ms. Gabel asked if there was a long-term agreement with the managemeat so the care care center could continue. Ms. Vikesland stated the lease is so stated that they have the optioa to renew yearly. It is a long-term arrangement with the owners of the complex. MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Langenfeld, to close the public hearing for SP �80-01 by Kathaleen Vikesland. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris declared the public hearing closed at 7:53 p.m. �_:.___ __ _._.._e,.__._--- _ _.. __ .�..��_,__.�.m__ ,m.,_._..�_._.._._._._,__ .__��__ _ _ -�,..,A, PLANDIING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 5, 1980 _ PAGE 4 MOTION by Mr Langenfeld, seconded by Ms Gabel, that the Planning Commission recommend to City Council approval of a request for a special use permit, SP ��80 O1 by Kaehaleen Vikesland, to allow a child day care center in the administrative and recreation building of the Georgetown Apartment Complex, thE same being 5750 East River Road N E., per Section 205.071, 3, G, of the Fridlev Citv Code, located on part of Tract B, Registered Land Survey No. 38. Ms. Gabel stated that, there is a shortage of a real problem in this problem samewhat. as a working mother, she could vouch for the fact that responsible people to leave children with. There is area, and this day care center wi11 tend to help that Mr. iangenfeld stated he did not feel there was any need for stipulations, because �he required licenses seemed to take care of that and the special use permit will have the contxol element. Ms. Hughes stated she had no objections to the child day care center, but would abstain from. voting as she had arrived late and had not heard the full discussion. UPON A VOICE VO�, HARRIS, TREUENF'ELS, GA,BEL, LANGENFELD, AND OQUIST VOTING AYE, HIIGHES ABSTAIP]ING, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECL�tED TH.E MOTION CARRIED. Mr. Harris stated this would go to City Council f or approval on March 17. 2. RECEI�"E FEBRIIARY 7 1980, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MZNUTES: MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to receive the Feb. 7, 1980, Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes.. Ms. Gabel stated that Ms. Schnabel wanted to know if the questioas raised by Ms. Schnabel at th e Feb. 27th Planning Coumnission meeting on a conflict of interest has been answered. Mr. Harris stated he had been unable to contact Mr. Commers, Chairperson of the HRA, but would contact Mr. Commers to discuss this with him. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIl"IOUSLY. 3. RECEIVE �EBRUARY 21, 19�0, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINt1TES: MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to receive the Feb. 21, 1980, Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris declared the motion carried unanimously. %^�� -��. 4. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 19, 1980, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to receive the Feb. 19, 1980, Environmental Quality Coum►ission mix�utes . �,\ _ .� � - r,�^.,ti _ ° PLc�I�1iNG C�rIlKISSION 1�iC�T�:tdG, P�lARCH 5, 1980 PAGE 5 Mr. Oquist stated that on page 10 of the EQC minutes regarding rerefined oil, Ms. Metcalf had stated: "There is a law passed that every gas station or place selling oil must have a sign telling people where they can recycle their oil. It is doubted any of these places do that. This was an area for. the new Energy Commission." Mr. Oquist stated this was interesting and should be pursued. Mr. Harris staeed that for the Commissioners' information,the City Garage takes all used oil. Mr. Langenfeld stated he would like to ask that the new Energy Coumrission receive any portion of the minutes relating to energy. � Mr. Langenfeld sfiated tlzat at the last Planning Commission meeting, he had suggested that the Planning Commission have someone from the MPCA aCtend•a meeting to discuss the NPC-5 Airport Installation Permit. He thougl�t it would be very woYthwhile. MOTTON by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. Hughes, that the Planning Commission ask a member of the MPCA to come before the Planning Commission to discuss the draft proposals of NPC-5 Airport Installation Permit. _ Ms. Gabel stated she would ask that all the commissions be aotified when this meeting would take place. � �--� UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE M0�'ION CARRIED UIJADTIMOUSLY o Mr. Boardman stated he would check into having someone from the MPCA attend a Planning Coum►ission meeting. S. CONTINUED: PROPOSED CH�►NGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZODTING: Changes & Corrections; Page 30 205.08 R-2 DISTRICT REGULATIONS � 205.081 Uses Permit�ed �3-C. Change to: "All private, non-profit golf course, country club, yacht� clubs, tennis clubs, swimm�ing pools, and additional recreation uses are not , ! accessory uses to the principal uses in the R-2 District. i Page 33 205.084 Building.Requirements �`2. Minimum Floor Area - change to: "There shall be no specific floor area requirements, however, structure size must be compatible with State Buildin �.� �ode." � � s PLANNING COY�'lISSION MEETING MARCH 5�1980 PAGE 6 Pa�e 34 205.085 Parking Requirements �1-C. "All driveways shall be surfaced approved hard�surface material." Ms. Hughes stated she objected to hard R1 and R2. with blacktop or concrete or other surface driveways being required in �,""��, Mr. Oquist stated that Ms. Hughes had a good point. They have discussed a garages and have eliminated the garage requiremenC, and have discuss.ed reclucing the square footage of lots and living spaces, in terms of affordable housing, � and yet they are requiring hard surface driveways. � MOTION by Ms. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to recoumnend that "All driveways i shall be surfaced with blacktop or concrete or other approved hard surface � material" be eliminated in both R1 and R2. ° t Ms. Hughes stated she felt as long as they have done other things to make � housing affordable, there was no reason why they couldn't eliminate this c � requirement. Mr. Harris stated that the theory behinuthalsoStheas�reetvcleanings �If�there �`�.� not only�he1p the storm sewer system, b is a lot of sand, gravel and trash on th e str�ets from ruuoff from the drive- ways that are not hard surface, it costs more money for sereet cleaning. s Mr. Boardman stated he did not look at a garage as a street maintenance problem, but he did �.00k at a driveway as a street maintenance problem. He had to look at that as.a po�eatial problem.,for all taxpayers because of the street . maintenanNe cas�:s. He felt ha�d surface driveways are important in all areas. ' UPON A VOICE VOTE, HUGHES, TREIIENFELS VOTING AYE, GABEL, OQUIST, AND IiARRI5�` VOTING NAY, LANGENFELD AB$TAzDTING, CHAIRMAN HA1tRIS DECLARED THE MOTTON DEFEATED, i 205.086 Perfo�man�eaStandards . �1,A. Change to:1"A11 materials sliall be kept in a building or shall be fully screened, so as not;tq be vis,ible from any public right-of-way, except where the City Council may require•a Special Use Permit for any exterior storage if it is demonst�ated that such storage is a hazard to public health, safety, and general "welfare." �3-B . Delete :� � �4-A. Change,to: "All open areas of any site, e��seededr areas used for � parking, driveways, or storage, shall be sodded o _ j ^ } d' .� � � . � l i r��; - PL�NG COMMISSTON MEETING MARCH 5 19��0 -� PAGE 7 _ Pa e 36 - 205.09 R-3 DISTRICT REGULATIONS � 205.091 Uses Permitted , , �'�3-B. Chauge to: "Al1 private, non-profit golf course, country clubs,'yacht clubs, tennis courts, swimming pools, and additional recreation uses are not . accessory uses to the principal uses in the R-3 Districfi." Page 37 ' � 205,093 Lot Requirements & Setbacks Add 2-B: "A minimumlot width of 85 feet is requirea for a mnitiple dwelling of 4 or more units." Pa�e 38 205.094 Building Requirements .; ��3e Laundry Facilities - Change las� sentence to: "One (1) washer and drye�x •� jwill be requ3.red for e4ch 10 units or fraction thereof in those structures ' I contai�iag over 100 units. I �"��, � ; ,-� `"'- Page 39 �� I�k7. Sound - Mr. Harris asked Mr. Boardman to check the average sound trans- I mission loss of 50 decibels to make sure it is consistent with the State ; Building Code. , MO�TQN by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms._Gabel,-to-continue c�iscussion on � Pioposed Changes to Chapter 205. Zoning. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, � Ciiairman Harris declared the motion carried unanimously. � ,! 6. OTHER BUSINESS: � � � Mra Harris stafied he woul,d like to read into the record his publ�iE�disclosure ' information required once a year by the City: Page 1- Name o� Business and Partnerships; eCc.; H& R Enterprises 6200 Rivervie� Terrace : Title; President � , , ,, �- � �:. Dick Harris Co. 6200 Riverview Terrace � Title: President i` 0 , r, _ 7 �.i .... . ' pLANNtNG �ONIMISSIUN MEETING MARCH 5 198� "�� FAGE 8 ` � Page 2 - . _ . _ _. .. . _ _ .�_ . - - List of Not�.�Homestead Real Property Located within the City of Fridley which I c�rrentl� �iave fin�ncial interest in: 1315-17 77th Ave. N.E. 7710-7720 Main St. N.E. 7780-7790,Main St. N.E. .. . ::� ' . 77Q1-7703 Main St. N.E. _ --i' -,- � 7765.-7775 Main St. N.E. ,. , � s, Thank you, Dick flarris , :i�A � . ':� .' � - AD.30URNMENT ! '�` �' �` s��.onded by Ms . Gabei, to adj ourn the meeting. MOTI�N 'by M��; :ib�ea�felcl`� Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairman Harris declared the March 5, 1980, Planning Commission.meetin�,_vadjourned at 9:37 p•m• ' Respect�ully submitted, (;� ��/ L e Saba Recording Secretary � �" ` ,��"':�a ___� '�l i"` �� .� __ - -� '�" — . _. � -