PL 10/29/1980 - 30547CITY OF FRIDLEY � '
�� PLANNING CON�NISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 29, 1980
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CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Harris called the October 29, 1980, Planning Comnission.meeting to
order at 7:37 p.m. '
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenfels, Ms. Schnabel (arr. 8:00 p.m.),
Mr. Svanda, Mr. Kondrick, Mr. Wharton, Mr. Oquist
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Dr. Bob Wilson, 7566 - 4�h St. N.E.
Mr. & Mrs. Robert Blosky, 305 - 76th Ave. N.E.
Dr. James Gilbertson,6801 Channel Road
APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 8, 1980, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY A�2. OQUIST, SECONDED BY �. TREUENFEIS, TO APPROVE TXE OCTOBER 8, 1980,
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE,
CHAIRMAN HARRIS DEC�ARED TAE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #80-11, BY
JAMES H. GILBERTSON: To allow an out-patient counse ing c in c with
smal ad,jacent parking lot on Parcel 1100 in the North Half of Section 11,
per Section 205.051, 3, f, of the Fridley City Code, the same being
7599 University Ave. N.E.
MOTION BY MR. WHARTON� 5ECONDED BY 1�2. TREUENFELS� Ta OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING
ON SPECIAL USE PERMIT� SP #80-11, by JAMES H. GILBERTSON.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIIVG AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE PUBLIC XEARING
OPEN AT 7:42 P.11.
Mr. Boardman stated a rezoning request for this property was brought befor�
the Planning Commission on May 23, 1979. At that time, the rezoning request
was for CR-1 (general office building, clinic, lawyers office, retail office,
etc.). At that time, the Planning Commission recommended denial of the
rezoning request, and the application was withdrawn before it went on to
City Council.
Mr. Boardman stated this time the petition is for a special use permit to use
the property as a psychiatric c7inic for out-patient fami]y counseling.
Because the property is R-i, this type of clinic is allowed with a special use
permit in an R-1 district. The q�estions the Planning Corr�nission will have to
consider are: If this clinic is ailowed, ever� though it is with a special use
permit and can be controlled, what kind of precedent would that have on the
residential district itseif? Would this special use permit be a viable use
for that corner property?
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Mr. Harris asked if the petitioner, Dr. Gilbertson, would like to make a
statement at this time.
D�. Gilbertson stated that he is a licensed, consu]ting psychologist and is
a resident of Fridley. He lives at 6801 Channel Road. His practice is
largely a family practice in the sense that he sees approximately 60� children
and 40% families or adu7ts. His business profile is extremely low. He
thought that perhaps it was even more limited than one would expect from a
residential house being used in that fashion. He stated he had calculated
some figures for the � anning Commission to consider. From Oct. 1979 - Oct. 1980,
he saw a total of 242 patients for one calendar year. The number of contacts
on those 242 patients were 970. -He averages approximately 20-25 hours of
office work a week. The rest of his time is spent in consulting at various
agencies--Unity Hospital, Family Life Center in Anoka, North Memorial in
Golden Valley, and two hospitals farther so�thwest.
Dr. Gilbertson stated he bought this property with the intention of trying to
see if the City of Fridley would ]ook favorably upon a special use permit for
a clinic operation that would have a very low profile.
Dr. Gilbertson stated he went thraugh the entire application for the rezoning
to CR-1 and was aware that it was a contested piece of property, that there
was presented in favor of rezoning the notion that it does sit on two busy ^
streets and is a very noisy place for residential. He was also aware that the
Planning Commission had been concerned for three reasons: (1) in the City
Charter, they did not wish to spot rezone; (2) the traffic issue; and (3j there
was a good deal of neighborhood opposition in the form of a petition.
Dr. Gilbertson stated that as the property owner, he would be using the two
bedrooms as offices no more than 25 hours a week. That averages out to less
than 8 patients a day. He schedules patients for one hour or for two hours
if he is testing a youngster. That would place the traffic at about 6-8 cars
a day which he did not believe was a great volume, and he did not think it
would annoy the neighborhood or cause any kind of congestion.
Dr. Gi]bertson stated he grew up in the Spring Lake Park area so he knows the '
area well. He would not be an absentee person. As a professional, he felt he
was bound to abide by the professional standards of conduct. Seventy-five
percent of his clients are Anoka County people, so in terms of community benefit,
in terms of the outlay of services and outreach of services to this cor�nunity.
as well as other communities in Anoka County, he could say he is fairly responsive.
Dr. Gilbertson stated that from the mailing list he received from the City,
he went on a house-to-house canvass of those people who were within �
250 feet of the property to solicit their questions and concerns and to explain
to them what he had in mind for the property. Ne stated he was pleased in that
he did not receave the same kind a� op�osition or resistance that was apparently
visited upon the cot�nercial rezoning application. He stated he had stressed
at that meeting the points he had already stressed.that evening: (1) That '�`
it would be a very low profile, (2) That he is a Fridley resident, (2) There
would be no traffic congestion, and (3) There would be no structural changes
to the bui7ding as it now exists.
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Mr. Oquist asked Dr. Gilbertson where his office was at this time.
Dr. Gilbertson stated that he basically has three offices at this time. One
office is at his home at 6801 Channel Road, he has a very sma71 office at
North Suburban Pediatric Clinic, and maintains some affice space'in the Center
for Health Assessment and Treatment in Golden Valley. He would like to
bring these together and have one central office in this area.
Mr. Boardman asked Dr. Gilbertson if he had a secre�ary or receptionist.
Dr. Gilbertson stated he hoped to hire a part-time secretary. He is in solo
practice with no partners and would be the primary occupant of this building.
Mr. Svanda asked Dr. Gilbertson if he planned on putting up any signs.
Dr. Gilbertson stated that, typically, he h`as not had to use signs before.
At his home office, he has a sign approximately 2 feet by 16 inches. He
thought he would like to have a]arger sign than that on the corner where
Osborne and University intersect.
Mr. Svanda a'sked if Dr. Gilbertson had considered any additional landscaping
around the parkinga�^ea.
,,,� Dr. Gilbertson stated that he understood that it was part of the City's
mandate that parking should not be visible from the street. He stated that
on the southern boundary of his property that he shares with Mr. & Mrs. Blosky
there is a fence that is need of repair. That could certain7y be fixed.
There is no existing fence or shrubs indicated in his drawing on the western
side of the property so that would have to be added.
Mr. Harris asked if anyone in the audience would like to speak to this item.
Mrs. Robert Blosky, 305- 76th Ave. N.E., stated Dr. Gilbertson's use of the
property was fine with ther�o They would like to see something go in there
as the place is beginning � run down.
Dr. Bob Wilson, 7565 - 4th St. N.E., stated he is a psychologist with the
Columbia Heigh�� Scha�ls. He stated the Dr. Gilbertson is widely recognized
for his �eork, his work is excellent, and he would be a credit for any
community. Dr. Wi]son stated he is a neighbor several houses away and he
would welcome Dr. Gilbertson as a neighbor. It would be an excellent way to
use that property. He was concerned also that the property was not being used.
(Ms. Schnabel arrived at the meeting at 8:00 p.m.)
Mr. Wharton stated he lives at 6887 Cha�a�el Road and has noticed Dr°.Gilbertson's
sign. He stated that if the traffic on Osbor�e and I�t��uersit� is as quiet as
it is on Channel Road, there wil] b� ��s ����em at �1�,
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 29, 1980 PAGE 4
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MOTION BY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY 1►�Z. KONDRICK, TO CLOSE TXE PUBLIC HEARING
ON SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP�80-11, BY JAMES H. GITIBERTSON.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HL�ARING CLOSED AT 8:05 P.M. . '
Nh^. Oquist statedte was on the Planning Commission when the request for
rezoning came through. Heagreed that it was not a good corner for a single
fami7y dwelling. This seemed like a reasonable request for use of that
property. He did not think it was going to be a problem for the neighborhood
and traffic was not going to be a problem.
MOTION BY A�R. OQUIST, SECONDED BY 1�2. TREUENFEZoS, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #80-11, BY JAMES H. GILBERTSON, TO ALLOW AN
OUT—PATIENT COUNSELING CLINC WITIi SMALL ADJACENT PARICING LOT ON PARCEL 1I00 IN THE
NORTH HALF OF SECTION lI, PER SECTION 205.O.fi1� 3, f, OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, THE
SAME BEING 7599 UNNERSITY AVENUE N.E,. WITH THE STIPULATIONS THAT TSE SIZE OF THE
CLINIC BE LIMITED TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, AND THAT THE PETITIONER WORK WITH CITY
STAFF ON LANDSCAPING AND EXTERIOR DEVELOPMENT.
Mr. Tre.uenfels stated that since this business dealt with counseling, he
would like to see one handicapped parking space.
Mr. Boardman stated that could be arranged.
Mr. Treuenfels asked Dr. Gilbertson if he was associated with the Central
Center for Family Resources.
Dr. Gilbertson stated he is an on-site consultant once a month for the Central
Center for Family Resources.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Harris stated that SP #80-11 was recorr�nended to City Council for approval
with stipulation and would go before City Council on Monday, November 10.
2. CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY
C E, GENE LL K 0 N S F I Y 0 I G C E
Public Hearing open.
MOTION BY l�2. TREUENFELS, SECONDED BY MS. SCHNABEL, TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM
UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL 6'O�'ING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
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3. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 23, 1980, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
110TION BY 1�2. WAARTON, SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST, TO RECEIVE TXE SEPTEMBER 23, 1980,
ENERGY COMMISSION MINi1TES. , •
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIIVG AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
4. RECEIVE OCTOBER 2, 1980, HUMAN RESOURCES CONONISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY 1�2. TREUENFELS, SECONDED BY MS. SCHNABEL, TO RECEIVE TXE OCTOBER 2, I980,
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY. �
5. RECEIVE OCTOBER 9, 1980, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION BYeMR. O,QUIST, SECONDED BY l�t. KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE TNE OCTOBER 9, 1980,
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES.
Mr. Boardman stated that the HRA had a special meeting on Thursday, October 23,
and they gave IMI the right of development on Phase III, giving IMI 120 days
'"� to come up with adequate financing. He stated he thought IMI had a very
realistic viewpoint on the way commercial should be developed there. What
the City is looking at right now is whether they will take options on the
property or go through condemnation. It is a question the HRA will have to
answer within the next one to one and one-half months.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRI5 DECLARED THE A?OTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
6. RECEIVE OCTOBER 1�, 1980s APPE�LS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. SCHNABEL, SECONDED BY 1�2. TREUENFEIS, TO REG'�IVE THE OCTOBER 14, 1980,
APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL UOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLRRED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. WHARTON, SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST, TO ADJOURN TXE 14�ETING. UPON
A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE OCTOBER 29, 1980,
PIfANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8;30 P.M.
Respectfully s mitted,
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Ly Sa a
Recording Secretary