PL 01/07/1981 - 6744,
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City of Fridley
AGENDA
PLANNTNG COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, 1ANUARY 7, 1981
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL
APPROVE PLANNING COt+�tISSION MINUTES: DECEMBfR 17, 1980
1.' PUBLIC HEARING; __C(INSIDERATiON OE A REQUEST FOR A SPE6IA
Per Section 205.101, 3, p, to allow a Veterinary Emergency
Clinic in Moon P7aza shopping center, the same being 6201
University Avenue N.E.
2. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A REZOPIING REQUEST; ZOA
#80-05, 8Y WINFIEIQ OEVELOPMENTS, INC.: To rezone Lot 2,
except the Norther1y 50 feet, and Lots 3, 4, 5 and 6 inclusive,
Block 1, Paco Industrial Park, from C-2 (general business areas�
to M-1 (light industrial areas) to allow the construction of
a 98,000 square foot building to be used for office and office
warehouse> liqht manufacturing and service, the same beinq>7151-
7251 Com�rce Circ7e East.
3. CONTINUED: CONSIDERATION QF A PROPQSE� NOISE ORDINANGE
4. CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDMENT TO CHARTER 205 OF TNE.
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8. RECEIVE ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES: DECEMBER 16, 1980
9. RECEIVE ENUIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSTON MINUTE_S_s_ DEi
�0. OTHER BUSINESS:
A(lJOURNMENT:
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIN6, DECEMBER 17, 1980
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Harris called the December 17, 1480, Planning Commission meeting to
order at 7:36 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Mr. Harris, Ms. Gabel (for Ms. Schnabel), Mr. Svanda,
Mr. Oquist, Ms. Hughes, Mr. Saba {for Mr. Wharton)
Members Absent: Mr. Treuenfels
Others Present: Jerro]d Boardman, City Planner
Dr. J. C, Schurstein, 1102 - 43� Ave. N.E.
C. Schurstein, 1100 - 43; Ave. N.E.
Lawrence and Joyce Zinnnerman, 5380 - 4th St. N.E.
Laura Vagovich, 5400 - 4th St. N.E.
APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 3, 198�, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTIDN BY MR. SVANDA� SECONDED BY MS. HUGHES, TO APPROVE THE DECEMBER 3� 2980,
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTIf, ALL VOTING AYS,-CHRIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED TH8 MOTION CARRIED
UNRNIMOUSLY.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A REZ�NING RE UEST, ZOA #80-04, BY
DR. JEROME C,Schurstein: Rezone from R-3 general multiple family dwelling
areas t� CR- gen�� office and limited business), Lots 23 through 30,
61ock 13, Hamilton's Addition to Mechanicsville, except that part of
Lots 24 through 30 taken for Highway purposes, to allow the construction
of an office-professional building, the same being 5345 University Ave. N.E.
MOTZON BY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO OPEN TNE PUBLIC XEARING ON
ZOA N80-04 BY DR. JEROME C. SCHURST&IN.
UPON A�VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTINC,.AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THfi FUBLIC HEARING
OPEN RT T:40 P.M. .
Mr. Boardman stated this property is located south of 694 on University Ave.
He stated there is a short dead-end service road that cul-de-sacs right along
University Ave. `This property is presently zoned R-3. It is just north of a
C-2 district which is presently occupied by a Standard Station and a gas pump
repair service facility. Behind this property is R-3 property which is multiple
family and some single family. South of 53rd Ave. in Columbia Heights is all
commercial along the service drive. Across University, north �f 53rd, is a11
R-1 and south of 53rd is R-3.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 17 1980 PAGE 2
Mr. Boardman stated that the sabject property is a little awkward in shape
and there was a little �fficulty in fitting in the structure Dr. Schurstein
is proposing. The structure Ar. Schurstein is proposing will have to go for
variance; however, he is bringing it before Planning Commission to see if he
can get rezoning 6efore applying for a variance on the building.
Mr. Boardman stated that there was a rezoning action on this property back in
1971. At that time, the petitioner was asking for rezoning to C-2 for an
office structure. At that time, Planning Commission recorrnnended approval for
the rezoning, City Council recommended approval f�r rezoning. They had the
first reading on it and were holding the second reading for the 6uilding Committee.
The application was then withdrawn because the financing was bad, and they could
not build the structure.
Mr. Boardman stated that Dr. Schurstein does have plans for a two-story office
structure. It is a difficult site because it is a triangu]ar site. He stated
he has worked out the parking with as few variances as possible.
Mr. Lawrence Zimmerman, 5380 - 4th St. N.E., stated he wanted to know what was
proposed for the al7ey that was behind the property.
Mr. Boardman stated they did have a problem with the alley that is right behind
the parking lot. There has been some talk about vacating the alley, but there
are too many garages off the alley. He stated the alley may have to be improved
because there are a lot of garages on the alley, especiaiiy further down by the
Standard Station.
Mr. Harris asked if the petitioner wished to make a statement at this time.
Dr. Schurstein stated he has been thinking of different things for this lot for
a couple of years. When he first started, he was interested in an office/
resident complex, but there is a problem with financing something like that.
They are now applying for rezoning the property to cormnercia7. In the last two
years, comnercial has been more likely to receive financing than Housing.
It would be terribly expensive for housing because of the odd shape of the lot.
He stated he would like to see this property developed, and that is why he has
come before the Planning Commission to try to get a zoning change.
Mr. C. Schurstein stated that based on projections right now, they are looking
at a return on their investment that would be economical to build the building
and they are also planning on building a substantiai buiiding--probably a
precast buiiding so the longevity of the structure itself will be easy to look
at and will be an asset to the area. They feel the property has some corrnnercial
value.
Ms. Nughes asked if they had any idea of what kind of tenants they would have.
Mr. C. Schurstein stated they are planning on having tenants that are professionally-
oriented--attorneys, insurance companies, dental offices, medical offices, etc.
They are not looking at a drugstore or retail outlet.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 17, 1980 PpGE 3
Mr. C. Schurstein stated they feel it is an adequate plan. They feel there
is a good opportunity for certain types of investments and that the building
is in a class that would generate enough interest because of its size and cost.
They feel very confident that, given time, they can finance the building. He
stated he is a real estate broker so he does know something about the business.
Ms. Gabel asked if they had any idea how many tenants they would have in the
building.
Mr. C. Schurstein stated that would depend on the type of tenant. A regional
insurance office may require 3,000 sq. ft., while a doctor or dentist may
require only 1,000 sq. ft.
Ms. Vagovich, 5400 - 4th St. N.E., stated she has talked to most of the
nei9hbors, and they are all in favor of an office building as opposed to having
an apartment building.
Ms. Hughes stated that with the rezoning to CR-1 and with R-3 next to it, there
would have to be a fence, and the variances seemed quite simple. It seemed to
her that the noise impact from the highway was such that they would never want
to put residential in there. The office building and the fencing could be of
real benefit to the neighborhood as far as noise. She could see no problems
and felt the rezoning request was a reasona6le proposal. •
Ms. 6abe1 stated she'could see no reason why anyone on the Appeals Commission
would have any problem with it.
MOTION BY MS. HUGHES, SECONDED BY hII2. OQUIST, lY1 CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
ZOA 80-04 BY DR. JEROME SCHURSTEIN.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING
CZASED AT 8:14 P.M. �
Mr. �quist stated he agreed with Ms. Hughes, and that this was a viable solution
for that corner property.
MOTION BY MS. HUGHE5,�SECONDED BY MR. OQUZST� TO RECOMMEND TO CZTY CDUNCIL
APPROVAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST, ZOA N80-04, BY.DR. JEROME C. 5CHURSTEIN:
REZONE FROM R-3 (GENERAL MULTIPLE FAMILY DWELLING AREAS) TO CR-1 (GENERAL OPFICE
AND.LIMITED BUSINESS)� LOTS 23 THRWGH 30� BLOCK I3� HAMILTON`S.ADDITSON TO
MECHANICSVILLE, EXCEPT THAT PART OF ZATS 24 THROUGH 30 TAKEN FOR HIGHWAY
PURPOSES� � RLLOW PHE CONSTRUCTION OF RN OFFICE-PROFESSIONAL BUILDING, THE
SRME BEIRTG 5345 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E. �
UPON A VOICE.VOTE,�ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN XARRSS.DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY. �
Mr. Harris stated this will go to City ;ouncil on January 5, 1981, and a public
hearing will be set for February 9.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 17, 1980 PAGE 4
2, PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PP,OPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S. #80-03
REGISTERED LAND SURVEY, BY DA ID TORKILDSON, �IRECTOR, ANOKA COUNTY
S ECRE TI N DEP RT ENT: T e purpose of t e egistere an urvey
�s to separate t e Rice Cree Area from Medtronic property for park
purposes. Generally located between T.H. No. 65 and Central Avenue,
North of 69th Avenue N.E. (see Public Hearing notice for complete lega]
description).
MOTION BY Mf2. OQUZST� SfiCONDED BY MR. SABA, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
P.S. N80-03 BY DAVID TORKIiASON.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE, CHRIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE PUBLZC HEARING
OPEN AT 8:19 P.M. . .
Mr. Boardman stated that Mr. Torkildson was unable to attend the meeting. He
stated this property is just south of the Medtronic building. It is the low-
land property along Rice Creek. The County is purchasing this as part of the
Rice Creek Regional Trail West, which is part of the Regional Trail System.
Medtronic has agreed to the purchase, and the fridley City Council has agreed
to the Anoka County plan for the Rice Creek Regional Trail System. The City
Council has also agreed with Medtronic that for any reason of dedication of
this property, the City would allow Medtronic to build to a density of 40%
which would have incTuded the property in the first place. That was one of the
conditions of the purchase agreer�nt for the purchase of the park property.
Mr. Harris stated there probably should be some kind of agreement that the
City and the County are not responsible for any necessary soil corrections due
to the creosote problem. �
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. SVANDA� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
P.S. �80-03 BY DAVID TORKILDSON. � . .
UP(JN A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING�AYE� CXRIRMAN HARRIS AECLARSD THE PUIILIC HEARING
�CLOSED AT 8:38 P.df. � �
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TD RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S.�#80-03, A REGISTERED LAND SUR��EY,HY
DRVID TORKILRSON, DIRECTOR, ANOKA COUNTY PARKS.& RECREATION DEPARTMENT: THE
PURPOSE OF TXE REGISTERED LAND SURVEY IS TO SEPARRTE THE RZCE CREEK AREA FROM
MEDTRONIC PROPERTY FOR PARK PURPOSES. GENERALLY ZACATED BETWEEN T.X. NO. 65
AND CENTRAL AVENUE, NOR2H OF 69TH RVENUE N.E.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE,�CHRIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY.� � .
MOTION BY h1R. OQUIST, SECONDED BY hIIi. SABR., TO RECOMMEND THROUGH CITY COUNCIL
TNAT THP CITY OF FRIDLEY AND ANOKA COUNTY TAKE THE NECESSRRY LECAL PRECAUTIDNS
TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY RRE NOT LIAHLE FOR ANY�CLEAN—UP ACTIVITIES
BECAUSE OF SOIL CONTAMINATZONS RS A RESULT OF TXE ADJACENT CREOSOTE PROBLEMS.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRMAN HRRRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRSED
UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNiNG COMMISSI-0N MEETING, DECEMBER 17, 1980 PAGE 5
3. CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 205 -0F THE FRIDLEY
Public Hearing Open.
Page 32 -
205.08 R-2 DISTRICT REGULATIONS
Mr. Boardman stated that R-2 has primarily the same changes as R-1.
Page 38 -
205.09 R-3 DISTRICT REGULATIONS
205.091 Uses Permitted
Mr. Boardman stated that Mr. Herrick had a question under #2, Accessory Uses,
where they talk about parking areas and qarage structures. The second sentence
under N2-A states: "Use of garage space to satisfy parking requirements shall
not exclude sufficient unenc7osed spaces to satisfy al7 off-street needs."
Mr. Herrick's question was: °What is 'enc7osed spaces to satisfy all off-
street needs"'? Mr. Herrick stated that something like this may be hard to
defend. Mr. Boardman stated they have never had any problem with this ]anguage
in the Zoning Code, and he would recommend that there be no change at this time.
The Planning Conxnission concurred to ]eave the language as stated.
Page 48 -
205.103 Lot Requirements and Setbacks
#1. Lot Area - Change to read as follows:
A. Each site in a mobile home park shall have a minimum of 3>500 sq. ft.
le home nark shall heve a minimum of
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#3. Setbacks - change to read: "No mobile home shall be placed any closer
- - to a public street right-of-way than 35 feet
or an,� closer to any other property line than
15 feet."
Page 49 - �
205.104 Parking Requirements
�2. Curbing and Drainage - change to read: "All interior streets shall be
concrete and road surface constructed according
to city standards to handle drainage according to
approved drainage plan."
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PLANNING CpMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 17, 1980 PAGE 6
Page 55 -
205.13 C-1 DISTRIC7 REGULATIONS
Under #1, Principal Uses, A- E, Mr, Boardman stated that Mr. Herrick had a
question on what was "small" such as "small convenience stores and services",
"small retail services", and "smal7 offices". Mr. Boardman stated he has
never had a problem with this.
The Planning Commission concurred to delete the word "small" in each paragraph
#3-E, under "Permitted Uses with Special Use Permit" - change to read: "Banks
and financial institutions" and delete "or other uses having drive-in facilities"
Mr, Boardman stated that C-1 has basically the same changes as R-3.
Mr. Boardman stated that whenever "Zoning Administrator" or "City Engineer"
appeared in the Zoning Code, it should be changed to "City". This change
should be made on page 58 where "City Engineer" is written twice.
Page 65 -
205,74 C-2 DISTRICT REGULATIONS
205.141 Uses Permitted
Delete #3-E-(6) -"Bui7ding used as automobile service stations shall be so
constructed of materials that are compatible with the
adjacent area."
#3-J - Animal clinics, etc. - Delete "or goals"
Delete #3-J-(1) -"The building shall be of masonr construction, outside wall
minimum thickness to be eight (8� inches, with a precast
concrete roof."
Page 69 -
205.146 Parking Requirements
�4-E - Change the word "catalog" to "document"
The Comnission completed review of C-2 District Regulations ending on page 73.
MOTZON BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. SVANDA� TO CONTINUE THE PUSLIC HEARING
ON TNE AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE.FRIDLEY.CITY CODE� GENERALLY KNOWN AS
THE FRIDLEY ZONdNG CODE.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE� CHATRMRN-XARRIS DECLARED TXE MOTSON CRRRIED
UNANIMOUSLY. �
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, DECEM3ER 17, 1980 PAGE 7
4. CONTINUED: CONSIDERA7ION OF A PROPOSED NOISE ORDINANCE
Mr. Boardman stated that Kathy Callahan, of the League of Minnesota Cities,
will be at the next Planning Canmission meeting to talk about the proposed
noise ordinance.
MOTION BY MS. HUGHES, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TD CONTINUE THE CONSIDERRTION OF
A PROPGSED NOISE ORDINANCE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HRRRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
5. OTHER BUSINESS:
A. "II-V. Condominium Conversion Plat Filina Reauirement" and "
Mr. Boardman stated these are recommendations from the League of
Minnesota Cities for modifications in state laws. It is for the
Commission's information only.
MOTION BY MS. NUGHES, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO RECEIVE INTO THE
RECORD "IZ-V, CONDDMINIUM CONVERSION PLAT FILING RfipUIREMENT" AND
IS2. NOUSING�IN THE M6TROPOLITAN AREA". �.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. . �
B. Indusirial Revenue Bonds
�Ir. Harris stated that at the City Council public hearing on the
industriat revenue bond request for office construction at 73rd &
University, it surfaced that there were no guidelines or criteria
for issuing industrial revenue bonds in Fridley. So, they would
like the Community Development Commission to try to put together
some guidelines for industrial revenue bonding.
Mr. Oquist stated this was a good time to bring up a concern that
the Community Development Coimnission had expressed at their last
meeting. The Commission members are concerned that the Community
Deve7opment Commission is not doing much, and the feeling is that
the Cortvnission could be more involved in a lot of things that are
going on at staff level.
Mr. Oquist stated that before the Commission can work on any guide-
lines, they will need to have some information on industrial revenue
bonds so they can gain a better knowledge of what industrial revenue
bonds are ali about.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 17, 1980 PAGE $
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MS. HUGNES� TO ADJOURN.THE MEETINC. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE DECEI�ER 27, 2980,
PLRNNING COMMISSION MEETING ADIOURNED AT Z0:35 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary
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PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNIP�G COhU4IS5I0N.
;NOTICE is hereby given that there wi11 be a Public Hearing of the Plan�ing
Commission of the City af Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue
Northeast on Wednesday, January 7, 1981 in the Councii Chamber at 7:30 P.M. .
for the purpose of:
Consideration of a request for a Special Use
Permit, SP �80-12, by Affilliated Veterinary
Service, per Section 205.101, 3, p, to allow
a Veterinary EMergency C7inic in Moon Plaza
Shopping Center, the same being 6201 University
Avenue N.E.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an'opportunity at the
above stated time and place.
Publish:_ December 24, 1980
; December 31, 1980
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RICNARD H. HRRRIS
CHRIRM�APd
PLANNIhiG COhiWiISSION
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APPLICANT'S SIGNA'IURE e����(.��,✓�� bL�z�_ Rezoning
. Address U , _� Special Use Permit
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Telephone Number `� �� --: /�`1� � ma ��, ,_/���Y�� Appraval of Premin-
PROPER OWNER'S SIGNATURE %t��7��
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Streets or Ailey
Vacations
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Street Location of Property r� /f� � �_ +
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Legal Description of Property
Present Zoning Classification �-�� E�cisting Use of Property — 1��.�,_�
Acreage of Propert7i // T���� Describe briefly the proposed zoning classification
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or type of use and �provement proposed �/� (�_ �j,. v�y��, w, ,
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Has the present zpplicant previously sought te rezone, pla*, nh*ain a iot 5n2_t or
vaziance or special use permit on the subject si*_e or Yart of it?__�es i�no.
What was requested and when?
The undersigned understands that: (a) a list of all residents and owners of properLy
within 300 feet (350 feet for rezoning) must be attached to this application.
(b) This application must be signed by all owners of the property, or an explanation
given why this is not the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings
resulting from the failure to list the names and addresses of all residents and
property owners of property in question, helongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showino ihe `
following: 1. North Direction. 2. Location o£ proposed structure an the lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setbacks.
4. Street Names. 5.' Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 300 feet).
The undersigned hereby declares that all the facts and representations stated in this
application are true and correct.
DAT$ ����J/ �%' SIGNATURE
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Date Filed
. Date of Hearing
Planning Commission Approved
(dates) Denied
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City Cauncil Approved
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Planning Commission 12-23-80
MAILING LIST
SP #80-12, Affilliated Veterinary Service
by Ed Glausmen, 6201 University Avenue, Moon Plaza
Ed Clausman
Affilliated �eteri�ry Service
5305 Cedar Lake Road
Minneapolis, hgV 55416
W. Gustave Doty
6379 University A��enue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Joseph Maertens
144 River Edge Way
Fridley, Mn 55432
G. Hayano, C. Spiecher, D. Harris and
Weaver, Talle and Herrick
6279 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley> Mn 55432
G. T. Gearman
6205 University Avenue N.E.
fridley, Mn 55432
Wheelock Enterprises, Inc.
Pine Tree Lake Road
White Bear Lake, Mn 55110
Terry 0'Connell
Northern Cablevision
350 63rd Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
St, Williams Catholic Community
6120 5th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Ernest Powell
6251 Sunrise Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Patrick Boyle
6261 Rainbow Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. WAlter Kembal �
6240 Sunrise Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Loyd Tanner •
6260 Rainbow Drive N.E.
Fridley, hk� 55432
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PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLAN�JING COMMISSION
NOTICE is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planrring
Gommission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6437 University Avenue
Northeast on Wednesday, January 7, 1981 in the Councii Chamber at 7:30 F.M.
for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Rezoning Request, Z0A #80-05,
by Winfield DeveTop :nents, Inc., to rezone Lot 2,
except the Northerly 50 feet, and Lots 3, 4, 5 and
6 inclusive, Block 1, Paco Industrial Park, from
C-2 (general business areas} to M-] (light industrial
areas) to allow the construction of a 98,000 square ,
foat building to be used for office and office warehouse>
light manufacturing and sP,rvice, all lying in the
South Ha}f of Section 11, T-30, R-24, City of Fridley,
County of Anoka, Minnesota.
Generally Tocated at 7751-7251 Corrmerce Circie East.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity at the
above stated time and p)ace.
RICHARD H. HARRIS
CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Publish: December 24, 1980
December 31, 1980
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Planning Comnission 12-23-8Q 16i
City Counci7
MAILING LIST
ZOA #80-05,
Winfield Developments, Inc.
Rezone Lot 2, except the Northery 20 feet, and Lots
3-6 Inclusive, Block 1, Paco Industrial Park
L�nald J. Dibos
500 Rice Creek Blvd.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Gera7d M. Paschke
5920 North Kirkwood Lar� _
Minneapolis, Mn 55442
S & H Company
6279 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Winfield Development, Inc.
5275 Edina Industrial Blvd:
Minneapolis, Mn 55435
Minnesota Transfer Railway
2071 University Avenue -
St. Paul, Mn 55104
David Torkildson
Anoka County Parks & Recreation Dept.
550 Bunker Lake Blvd.
Anoka, MN 55303
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Ti1�VIRUt1AlliIdT.AL Q1JAL,77.'Y G02�LCSSIOiI MEETZNG, MAY 7.0 19II0 PAGF, 3
UPOid A VOICE VOTC, ALI. VOTIhG AYF., C1IAIRPc1tSON Lh.��TG�NFGLD D�CLARCD TII�
MOTION CARRILD UNnt��tiOUSLY: .
MOTION by Pir. Ericl:son, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to table any furT.her
discussion on Che Anolca County Airporl- at this eime. Upon a voice vote,
all votiug aye, CI�airperson Langenfeld declarcd the motion carried
unanimously.
3. COIZTII1UEn: TRUNK AIGIIWAY 1�/NORTFI CROSST04IN
Mr. Deblon stated tliere has been no new information on this item.
Ms, Sporre asked if the funding for the North Crosstoom �aas affected Uy the
lacic of legislative approval to the highway funds? Originally, at the BRW
meeting, they were saying it �aould be iunded under substitution project funds--
money deferred from other projects.
Mr. Deblon. stated he would ca12 the Department oi Transp�;tation and.get an
answet to that question.
MOTION by Ms. Sporre, seconded by Mr. Erickson, to continue discussion on
Trunk Highway 10/North Crossl-oc.m at the next meeting. IJnon a voi.ce vote,
all voting aye, Ghairperson L2n�cu£el.d dec].a_red tlie moti,on carried .unanimously.
k' `. � 4. DISCIISS10i'v OF NOIS� T�TCRKSIIOP, "PLANNII�G F012 (�ET C��i�fi�ARTTTiES";
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Mr. DeUlon staeed he and Pis. Spor.re had attended t-his wor:;shop on t4ay 8,
whicli caas sponsored by ttte lieague of Minnesota C1r1P5� r,et:ro Clean Air Noise
Co�:iiCtee, and the Government Training Service.
Mr. Deblon st'aCed iL- c:as a very interest-ino c,oricshop. Alderman Rockenstein,
caho is ��•e11 acquainted caith noise anu its impacts and has Ueen auvocating
a17. no'_se coiitrol, gave an excetilent presentation on L'he aLiects o£ noise.
Some good approaches to noise and hocr to buf-fer and scxeen noise.caere preseuted.
Mr. Debl.on stated he felt the. tiu�ing might L•e right, and this might be an
excelLent opportunity to reconsider. tiie noise ordinance. He stateu the
�nviroim�ental Protection Agency (LPA) l�as given a grant to the League of
Piinneseta Cities to give. teclinical. assistance, and :ridley ttas selected as
one of L-liose target cities L-o �,ec�i�t� technical assistnnce. So, for three
yenrs, Fridley w'IY have technical assistaxice ior trli_ning people to eaiorce
a noise or�linanc�, wzit-ing up a noise erdinance, and a loan Yor sophistir_ated
equipment for measuring moter vel�icic noise or �:roperty line noise.
PIr. Deblon stated tiiah Ral-til.cen Callai�un of t?tc Lcague of Tiinuesota Cities
came Co l�ridle}� and n;ave au eticellc�nt presertCnt'ion on cah�L- otl�er cctirununities
are doing. �im llill, J'SLlic Szfety UirecCOr, 'lim TuzziUull, Crim� PrevanL-ion
Coorclin:�l-or, Jcrry Boardu�an, �iLy P1:inncr, an�.l liinisclC wcrc at thlt mceti.ng.
IIe st:�Cecl Pir. Iiill e�as opa�i u�i.nded and receplive to a noise
ordiii�ncr. 4i;. D��Ulon 5L'atc3 L'h�iL' 1��. t.hcutii�t th:it if tlie conununity wants
somethi.n�; lil:e this, it can beccvne :t re�a].iey. 7Y is goi.ng to Ue enf.orceable
and � b'UMI m:uingemnnC tool Co facil.tr.ace iarther cilSoi'rcmeAL'.
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ENVIRONt-1fiIt'PAL QUALI'LY COMMTSSION MEF;TING MAY 20 1980 PAGC 4
Mr. Deblon sl•ated tUat the Environmental QualiCy Commission liad drafted up
a noise ordinancc about threc ycars ago, and msyUe this was the time to br3n�
it back again for review. �
Mr. Langentcld stated it was up to the Co�issi.on members if they would like
to review the noise polluCion conerol ordinance draft aud have it as an
agenda item. T'ne reason the ordinance did not get very far several years
ago was because o£ L-he lacY, of inCeresC and the question of enforceability.
MOTION by Mr. Svanda, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to requesY Staff to get
copies of the Noise Pollution Control Ordinance draft for the Co�ission`s
review. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Langenfeld declared
the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Deblon stated that he did present this information to the Community
Development Crnnmission, and that co�nission made a motion supporting the
local noise ordinance crn7cept and recommending that the Enuironmental Quality
Co�ission look into this item again.
Mr. Peterson suggested that Ms. Callahan be asked Yo review the drafted noise
pollution control ordinance so she could see what was done in the past and
to find out what coaiments or ideas she-had on.it.
Ms. Sporre stated that regarding L'he "Planning for"Quiet: Communities^ workshop.,
she would ].ilce to add somc interesting CI11RoS that came out at the caorkshop. �
She stated the need �zas pointed out for a quiee planner--th� person who can
plan the audiUle lai�dscape for the convnunity--and that a new emphasis in
urban plannirj is to Ue able L-o design the acousL-ic coni:rol for a healthy
environment. They talked aUout ways of doing Chat. They saw slides of the
berming process used in the Bloomington zrea as a function of acoustic planning.
They talked about the different ways oi using sound Ualls with planti.ngs and
ho�a ncise behaves similar to light and dissimilar from light. They talked
aUout '.tow L'he planner of today has to proL'ect tlie people from noise the way
the plamier 10 years ago l�ad to protect the people from water problems and
things like that.
Ms. Sporre �tated ti:ey tallced about sleep. S�9icn you are exposed to an abrupt
noise whiZe sleepino, it does not mean you will wake up, but- you can come out
of the healing level o£ sleep, so you are not �etting the quality sleep, In
urban enviroiur.ents, you becorie faCigue:l, and it has become almost a societal
problem. IC is more serious for senior ciL'izeus. It was pointed out that
iL- is stiowi.ng up in health costs, so iL- Uecornes ttie responsibiliL-y of the
planncr today because of a neto proUlem. She tliought it- was important for
tlie City's Planning Dcpartmeut to becizne active in acouslic plamzing.
Pis. Sporre stated thaC because therc was a spealcer from Metropolitan Airports
Connn:ssion nnd a spenl;er iro:n AlctropoZitan Couiicil, she a�l.ed thc question of
h aa planning caas Eoing to Ue affecL•ed by the legislation on thc airport.
Tlie �ns�ucr biven Uy Alton Ga,par was thaL ther.e was no neca planning procesc
UIICICISJII��, :ntd L-hcy. feil: Che legisl:�ti>>� process �aill resolvc L'he nced for �
the airpurC. Claudc Schmidt, hfeCiopolil'an Airports Com�ulssion, stated L-hey
still chink Anoka Couiit•y coul.d br_ ttic intenncdiat-e airport.
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still thcre and that the Crosstown Project was a hiyh priority for interstate
substitution funding. Mr. Oeblon stated that, to his knowledge, the status
for the funding for Trunk Highway 10 has not changed. The last time he report-
ed to the Commission, there was funding available from Highway 35 to Tr�nk
Highway 65.
Ms. Sporre asked about;the technical reports the City was'to receive.
Mr. Deblon stated that the technical documents were being distributed only
to members of the North Mana�ement Committee, of which Fridley was not a
member. These technical reports wi11 be included in the environmental impacC
statement (�IS) and will not be available to Che City until the EIS is ready,
The EIS 'is scheduled to be distributed Dec. 1, 1980.
MO'EION by Ms. Sporre, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to continue discussion on
Trunk Highway �k10/Aorth Crosstown. Upon a Ooice vote, all voting aye,
Chairperson Langenfeld declared the motion carried unanimously.
2. NOIS� OADINANCE PRQGRESS;
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Mr. Deblon stated that, as suggesCed at the last Connnission meeting, he had sent
a copy of "124 Noise Control", along with pertinent minutes leading up to the
"rebirth" uf ttie noise ordinance, to�Kathleen Callahan of the League of Minnesota
Cities. He stated that at this time, he had not received any ca�ents back
from Ms.. Cal?ahan.
Mr. Deblon stated that City Council members, Fitzpatrick, Schneider, and Moses
attended a League of Piinnesota Cities conierence in Duluth, At thaL' con£erence
there was a special community noise workshop put on by Kathleen Callahan.
He stated that if the Council members attended thaC wDrkshop, it cculd facili-
tate the Commission's efforts with the noise ordinance.
Ms. Sporre stated that "124 Noise Control" was not the original draft approved
by the )'snvironmental Quality Commission and submitted to the Planning Co�nission.
Mr. Svanda stated that in Section 124.07 Snowmobile Requirements (Refer to
Chapter 703.04), it stated that,"It was recocmnended that the sno�snobile
ordinance be amended to include noise regulat'i.ons for snot.miobiles." He stated
he felt that- it should not be,worded "to recommend". It should 6e done
simultaneously. There should be srnnething covexing snocumobiles, either in
the noisc ordinance or in the sno�:�nob?.le ordinance. If- the noise ordinance._.._
doesn't cover noise regulltions for snocnnoUiles, iC should sefer to the snow-
mobile or��inance. Ii L'he snocamobile ordinance also dvesn't cover noise regula-
tions, then it should be doiie simultaneously.
Ms, Sporre stated she also had come coneerns �in this noise ordinance. She
had concerns aUouT. the discretion of- thc noise officer. The Commission had
felt VCYy Slb'i]1f2CIIRL'Ly tll'1C enfol'ce�nent of noise should not be on 1 crniplaint
basis, Uut thafi action be taken for eniorcement ii Lhere is a violation. .
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I3s. Sporr.e also referred to Section 124.10 Exceptions whcre it stated;
�'IL- is reco�nized tliat under certain circumsL-ances, it would Ue impossible
for a noise sourcc to r.omPly with the provisions of Section 124.03 of this
Chapter due to economic or technological reasons. She stated she felt
economic factors a].one should not justif.y eniringing on t-he public health
and wetfare, Tlicre should have to be more than economic or technological
reasons involved in providing far �n exception to the rule. Practically any
. form of noise abatement involves some economic provisions, so this stat-ement
should be refined.
Mr. Peter.son staY.ed he fell it wouLd be more beneficial for the Commission
Yo Ue reviewzng the draft ordinance approved by the Commission before it was
amended and changed Uy Planning Co+mnission. By going through this "124 Noise
Control", they rnay be duplicating ihe efforts o£ what they had already done
several years ago. Ae also suggested that Ms. Kathleen Callahan be invited
to the next Com:.iission meeting to give the Commission members some more input.
(Mr. Erickson arrived at 8:15 p.ri.)
Mr. Svanda stated he would also like a copy of the City's variance procedures.
Mr. Langenfeld stated that £or the next meeting, the Commission members sheuld
review "J.24 Noise Control". lie asked Mr. Deblon to obtain copies of the draft
approved hy the L'nvironmental Quality Commission for the Cammission mem�er.s
to revie•a, and to invite Ms. Callahan to the next meeting.
MOTT.UN by Mr. Pe.l-erson, secouded Uy Mr. 5vairda, to continue discussion on
the Noise Ordinance at the next meeting.. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Chairpersen Lang,enfeld declared the motion carried unanimously.
3. NPC-5 AIRPOP.T INSTALLA'lION PEPJ�fIT:
Mr. Deblon stated that at the City Council -[nvironmental Quality Coinmission
joint meeting, Virgil Herrick, City Attorney, had stated thai: the PGA board
wanted the language in the NPC-5 cleaned up, so NPC-5 was sent back to the
MPCA staff. The revised draft will probably go before the MPCA 6oard at their
July mceting.
Mr. Svanda stated that rSr. Del�lon should stay in touch with A1 Perez of the
PfPCA, so tliat �s soon as the new draft is ready� he can obtain a copy of it
for the Counnission to re�ie�u.
bi0TI0N Uy•Pfs. Sporrc, ecconded Uy Mr. Peterson, to continue discussion on
NYC-5 at the nest mecl-ing. Upon a voice v�te, aI.1 voting aye, Chairperson
Langenfeld declared L'he mot'ion tarried uitaRimoU5ly.
4. Cr.ros�xr r��o�r ert: -
A.r. L:m��onfcld star.e3 tliis item r:�:; discussed wil-h City Council at the joint
mceting b::tiaecu City Ce��i�c4.1 �nd Chc L'nviromimnt�l Quality Con:mission.
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CALL TO ORDCR:
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Vice-Chairperson Sporre called tfie July 15, 1980, Environmental quality
Commission meeYing to order at 7:50 p.m. ___._:
ROLL CAT.L : .
hembers Present: Lee Ann Sporre,•Sruce Feterson, Jon Erickson
Meu�bers Absent: Jim Langenfeld, Richard Svanda
Others PresenG: Bi11 Deblon, Associate Planner
Kathy Kallahan, League of Minnesota Cities
Caro1 Dfoss, 6550 East River Road, Apt. 202
APPFOVAL CF JUNE 17 1980 ETI4IRON2�NTAT QUALITY CO�SSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Erickson, seconded by Mr. Peterson, ta approve the June 17, 1980,
Environmental Quality Coumiission minutes.
Ms, Sporre stated that on page 2, last paragraph, she would.lilce the iollowing
change made: ^'She had concerns about the powers left to the discretion of the
noise officer." •
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APPROVED AS.AMBNDED.
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Ms. Spo±•re stated Chat- PTs.'Kallahan was going to sho�a a video tape presentation
on Bloomington's noise control program.
Ms. Rallahan stated that the tape was filmed by the Today Show and showed
B].00mington's noise control program, which was a very compxel�ensive noise coutrol
program. Tlie fil.m shotae3 the administration of the progran�, 3iscussed swie of
the legislal-ive asp2cts of it, i.e., that it is a misdemcanor to violate
proper[y linc uoise standards, how the enforcement is done, and preventative
land use plannin� techniques.
Ais. I::illahan staL•ed she hnd sl�own the i'i].m to give the Conmiission memUers some
sensa of the mawinmm a ciry co�ld do wi.t;: a noi�e control program. She was
ttot necesszri7.y recor,mieiiding tl�e�t t:he City of I�ridley incorporate lialf or even
one-Chird of i.t. Shc sCat�d tl:�e the CiCy of ir.idley.hns crnne a fair distance
on Y.\u�ir uoise orclinance so scmie. oF. her suggestion, may bc repetitive.
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Ms. Ka)lahan slated that in tenns o£ an ordinance, there arc two approaches: �
�qunnt-iL-aCivc and non-quanCitaL'ive. She sLated.Prid]ey was on iYS way toward
a quantital-ive ordinancc which is aA ordinancc l'hal' seL-s very specifi.c dec3bel
13mits. Witlr a quanl•itative ordinance, thcre are sti11 nuisance problems thal
they will want to mainl•ain in the ordinance, because the enforcement oi some
of them lends itsclf only to Che nuisancc approach. There will be some quanti-
tative prohihitions and some specific source prohibitions such as motor vehicles,
snowmobiles, motorboat-s, etc. The City can site as many sources as they feel
are.reasonable.
Ms. Kallahan stated that Mr. Deblon had given her a copy of the City of Fridley
proposed Noise Ordinance, and she had not made any substantive changes in that
document: However, shc had now been told that there was another document which
was drafL-ed by the Environmental Quality Commission before going to Planning
Commission.
The Cmnmission menbers raised the question of snozamobile noise enforcment.
Ms. Kallahan stated they coulct refer to Section 124.09 PUBLIC NUISANCE NOISES
PROAIBITED, Item (3) Exhaust (Pfs. Kallahan's couanents to the Fridley proposed
Noise Ordinance, page 5). She stated she had not specifically re-identified,
for example, the three pieces of statutes that wDUld be applicable in this
axea which are the automobile legislation on mufflers, the snowmobile legis-
lation on mufflers, and also the motorboat legislation on mufflers. Those
statutes coul.d be recited, buC it was tol-ally unnecessary because state statutes
are enforceable Fri.thout- having an ordinance.
Ms. Kallahan stated they also have to have a section in their oYdinance that-
is non-quantitative, because Chey have to design an ordinance that is enforce-
able b,y the noise oificers. For example, the noise officer cannot be asked
to measure a Uarking dog on a decibel level. The same thing applies to snow-
mobiles. So, they would probably eaant to stick to a public nuisance to enforce
snowmobile noise. If they wanted to go iurther than that and get a little
more security in the courts, they could enumerate snowmobiles under Section
124.09 as a public nuisance. She stated if they felt snowmobiles was a
specific problem, then they should do that.
Pls. Sporre stated that the City of Richfield had banned snowmobiling entirely.
Ms. Kallahan stated that she did not L•hink ehat was a good idea. She felt
it caas a highly controversial issue when communities started messing with
snoc�nnoUiles. She felt the entire noise ordinance would become iocused on
that one issue, and they caould Ue better oEf passin�; the ordinance and then
try to make amendments at a iutvre Cime or make a separate snowmobile ordinance.
Pir. Peterson stated that- was his tliought. Rather than going ineo explicit
language on sno�:m�oUiles, they' should reicr to a snowmoUile ordinance. The
snocznobilc ordinance should then have enoug3i"teeth" in i[ regarding noise
control.
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Ms. Kallahan statcd that, refcrri.ng to Fridley's proposed Noise Ordinance, �
she had grcatly reduced the definitions (Section 124.01) and covered ehe •
resL by simply statin�: "...nll terminology uscd in Chis Ordinance not
defined below sha11 be in conformance wit-Li the applicable gublical-ions of
the Minnesota Pollution Cantrol Agency (MPCA)."
Ms. Kallahan stated slie had dropped Section 124.02 rED�RAL OCCUPATTONAL
SAI�ETY AIdD 2�ALT11 ACT, because Minnesot-a aut•omatically has its own OSHA
standards which are an adoption of federal standards with some additions.
It was her understanding Chat local government does noL- enforce OSIiA standards.
They are enforced by a separate conmiission of the SL-aCe.
Ms. Kallahan stat-ed another major change she had made was in Section 124.03
which had comUined the MoL-or Vehicle Noise Limits with the Property I.ine Noise
Limits. She had separated these two things and made Chem Section 124.02
PROPERTY LII� NOIS� STANDAi2DS and Section 124.03 SOURCE EMISSION STANDt1RDS;
Ms. Kallahan stated that in.Section 124.02 PROPERTY LINE NOISE STANDARDS,
,Item (2), she had taken same language from the State Standards and in paren-
theses had stated:. "The noise standards as adopted by the Minnesota Pollution
Control Agency sha11 be used." She stated Fridley may wish to reprint Chose
standards, which are as follows:
M-1, M-2
C-1, C-ls,�
C-2, G-2s
Residential
Day
(0700-2200)
I.10 L50
60 65
65 70
75 80
• Night
(2200-^v700)
L10 L50
SO 55
b5 70
75 80
The Commission members raised the question of whether motorboats should be
addressed in the ordinance. Did the Conanission feel the question of motor-
boats on the Mississippi caould be addressed 6y the Planning Coumdssion?
Ms. Kallahan s�ated that the Co�ission could give the Planning Commission
what they fecl is a good ordinance and attach a sheet stating the things
tlie Commission considered and decided not to put intn the ordinance or
considemd and felt- should be put into the ordinance. She stated that �vith
motorUoat noise control, county officials could help. She really recommended
not dealing witli more issues in an ardinance than was needed.
rfs. I:allahan referred to Section 124.06 OP�RATIONAL LIPRTS and asked whether
the City would xeally �oant them. �das it necessary for L-he City oi Pridley to
seC curfe�as? It-seemed necessary.for thc City of Bioomington, because of 3
dcnscr population and becausc thc peoplc seemed to wanL- these curfews. If
tIic City �aa5 going to do ai�ythino in c.uriecaing, she thought "Re£use Hauling"
would be urze L-o cousidcr, and Lhey could use the langUage from Eloomington's
ordivanco. • •
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___._. .. ___�.� Knllahan ctatecl the Coimnissirni should be aware that motor vehicle noise �
' limit violations were pctCy misdemcanors, so tltcy should simply state in
Section 124.03, ILem A, tl�at "a mol-or vehicle noise violation is a petty
misdemeanor". Tlien in SecL-ion 124.12 EAiFOP,CEMI'sNT, they should state that;
"Unless othen�ise noted in l-his ordinance, enforcement shall take place in
accordance with Chapter 901 of the CiCy Code." �
Mr.�Erickson stated he felt some thought should be given to drafting some
enforcement provisions thal- would be in accordance with state law, and it
would be up to the ciCy afitorney to make sure those provisions were in __,_.
compliance.
Ms. Kallahan stated the Commission might'wanc to consider putting under the
Enforcement provisions a reniinder to the enforcement officials Chat they can
use their powers of injunction. The Co�nission'might also want to consider
some kind of assessment provisions, but she could not think of very many
situations with noise where that would occur.
Mr. Eri.ckson stated that in regard to Section 124.08 NOISE IAiPACT STATEMENTS,
if a persoa is going to build his own house and has a single contractor, is
it.Ms. Kallahan's understanding that this person would need a noise impact
statement?
t�Ls. Kallahan stated the ttoise impacL statement is Pox' the purpose of. de*_ermining
the proper land use. AlI they are trying to do is make sure that whatever is �
being built on a piece of property is not negatively impacted bq noise. She
felt noise impact statements are very appropriate, especially in cou¢nunities
that will be building buildings that will.be noise sensitive--schools,
churches, ete. She felt noise impact statements �aould only be used to the
extent that the person in charge of noise control in L-he city had a finger
on enough things to I:now what is going on.
Ms. Sporre stated that'in Item B under Section 124.08, it listed a registered
architect, civil engineeY, practicino land planner, practicing designer or
registered land surveyor as being persons �aho prepare final noise impact
statements. Ms. Sporre asked if these people had any training in the
preparation of noise impact �tatements--was there any state certi£ication?
Ms. Kallahan stated there was no state certification. She stated Ms. Sporre
raised an interesting question, but one which she dicl noC have an answer ior.
Ms. Sporre stated that consistent-ly the noise impact statements go back to
the City Official, and slie was not convinced that there was enough pub2ic
review. There is no public hearing process, no visibility to a decision that
would have potential tioise impacl-, either thro�gh.a commission or the Board
of Appeals. tlow was tliis Ueing handled in other communities?
Ms. Rallahan sCated that pub2ic reviesa is a vcry rare thing to have in regard
to noi.se i.mpact staCements. The br.;t thing�to do would bc to rcview how
tiie City ot rr�ai�y �„��ai�5 othcr cuviionmenL'al impacL' statemenl•s. She would �
guess that thcy were Ueing loolced at Uy city officials.
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Ms. Kall�l�nn stated she would talk L-his over wiL•h Lon Lolcen, Noi.se Official
for the CiCy of Bloomin�ton, and sce.how L'his is working for him. She staL'ed
that no maL'L-er cohaL they put in undcr the noise impact statement, unless l'hey
have somcone in charge to iollow it through, that part of thc ordinance is
worth nothing. -
Ms. Ka11a11an stated she thought the real concern here is that it did not say
alot about how the noise impact statement finds its way into the decision-
maki.ng process, and mayUe there should be some staCemenl that tells the Noise
ConCrol Ofiicer or City Official wliere this document is supposed to be routed.
Ms. Sporre asked P1r. Deblon to prepare a staeement or some language under
C. Approval of Noise Impact Statement, Item ��2, about where Che noise impact
� statement goes in the policy process.
Ms. Kallahan stated that what they are trying to do in Section 124.08 NOISE
IMPACT STATEMENT is to make sure that all site plan approvals have an additional
check-ofi for noise. Maybe C-2 should have another statement such as; "After
final action is taken, the noise impact statement returns Lo the City Official
who requested it." The City Offirial, in this case, could be the t4ayor, City
Councilperson, City Manager, Planning Commission, whoever requested the noise
fmpact statement.
Ms. Sporre stated she was hoping that the things that are oUviously not a
problem can just be processed hy staff, but the things that have the potential
for a signi.ficant noise problem should be flagged some�•ray as a policy problem.
Ms. Kallahan stated she would check into this matter further and get back to
Mr. Deblon with some further information.
Mr. Erickson stated that this noise ordinance document was poorly drafted.
He felt it taas the purpose of this meeting to identify the problem areas and
then it was up to staff to take those problem areas and come up with some
dxafting proposals.
Mr. Erickson stated something he had menCioned earlier and something he thought
should be addressed is the single family home, Does,the person who builds a
single family house liave tq get a noise impacC statement? He did not think
this ordin:nce was caping that.
Ms. Rallahan'stated it �aas Iter feeling that the ordinance is saying that all
site planw for large densil-y developments iaill require a noise in�pact s[atement
It is a judgement call on tlZC part of a stait person thaY. a noise impact state-
ment does or does not need to be doiic, and anoCher judgement call on the part
of Che sta£f person as to �ahether tlie noise impact statcment adhcres to what
is required of it.
Pir. Dcblon staCed l�a felt Llie wordiug sliould Ue changed under Noise Impact
StatemenL to scad: "All re::ideuti.al, oEfice, cun¢nercial or industrial .
s[rucl'ures requir:i_llg sitc plaus in accord:eiice wiCh Sections 205.07 throu ,h
205.13 oi L'he 'l.nniug Ordinulce suUmit 1 noise impact stltement wliicl� adhcres
to tl�c follocoing requiremenL's..°
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Ms. Kallahan stated some signiiicant things the Commission should consicler ____
from a policy poinC of view are if thcy have the riglit lisC of nuisances, is .
this list too inclusivc or noL inclusive enough, and a statement about whether
' they want- to have a noise impact statement process.
MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr. Ericicson, to receive int-o the record
the comments suUmilted by Kathy Kallahan entitled, "A Proposed Ordinance
Relating to Noisc Control in Che City of rridley". Upon a voice vote, all
voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Sporre declared the motion carried unanimously.
The Commission members Yhanlced Ms. Kallahan for coming to Che meeting and for
her corrmients and suggesCions. •
MOTION by Mr. Petexson, seconded hy Mr. Erickson, to continue diseussion on
the Noise Ordinance. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Sporre
declared tlie motion carried unanimously.
2. COftTINUED• JOINT POW3iRS AGREEMENT (PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL 7/7/80):
MOTION by Mr. EricY.son, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to mceive the�letters to
Nasim Qureshi from A1 Kordiak, Chairman, Anoka County Board of Co�issioners,
and Ralph McGinley, �xecutive Secretary, County of Anoka, dated June 26,.1980,
and the new version of the Soint Powers AgrePment proposal. Tlpon°a voice vote,
all voting a;-e, Vice-Chairperson Sporre declared the motion carried unanimously.
MOTIOI3 by Mr. Peterson, seconded by DSr. Erickson, to continue discussion on �
tiie Joint Powers Agreement and direct Staff to get confirmation Chat this
version of the Joint Powers Agreement has been approved by both Che City of
Fridley and Anoka County. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson
Sporre declared the motion carried unanimously..
3. CONTINUED; TRUNK HIGHIdAY 10/NORTH CROSST04?N
MOTION by Mr. L�ricicson, secottded bp Mr. Peterson, to continue discussion on
Trunk Higl�caay lOJNorth Crosstown. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Vice-Chairperson Sporre declared the motion carried unanimously.
G. COT'TINUED: NPC-5
Mr. DeU1on stated he had talked to Daryl Kor.pela with regard to the progress
of NPC-5. He was told that Mr. A1 Perez has Ueen ill for quite some time
and the progress on NPC-5 lt:y�6been slow. Thcy had wanted Co get the NPC-5
to L-Le rIPCA Bonrd on Au�usL �, but there is now the possibility it will not
get to the lioard until SepLemUer. Iie stated he has talked to Virgil Herrick,
and Air. Herrick seems much ha�pier wit-h L'he lansulge in the document.
pir. Debl.on stated he had no further information at tliis L•ime.
MOTION by rSr. Peterson, seconded by Pir. Ericl:son, to continue discussiou on
NPC-5. Upon a vo3.ce voLe, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Spc�rre declared
L-he uiotion caXricd unanimously. �1
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Ms. Sporre ataCed she would also like each member. to seriously consider
the chairmanship oL the Commission, keepingin mind that it also
involves being a member of the Planning Commission andattending tUm
Planning Coaunission meetings per month. She sCated she would continue
to handle the responsibilities of thie Commission and the Planning
Commission until a new chairperson is elected:
8. CONTTIIUED: NOISE ORDINANCE
Mr. Deblon stated that Ms. Callahan apparently had not been able to attend the
meeting. He stated he rad met with Ms. Callahan and they had gone over the
proposed ordinance and had come up �aith some interesting points and changes.
He stated he would revi�w these changes with the Commission.
MOTION by Mr. �ri.ckson, ser.onded by Pir. Svanda, to receive "A Proposed Ordinance
Relating to Noi.se, Providing for the Prevention and Elimination of Excessive
and Unnecessary Noise, and Inposing a Penalty for Violation" and a letter dat°d
July 24, 1980, from Kathleen Callahan to Bill Deblon re: Noise Ordinance.
Upon a voi-ce vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Sporre declared the motion
carried unanimously.
Section l. Definitions: Mr. Deblon stated that Ms. Callahan had gone through
and checked off the minimvm amoant of definitions the City needed a�d then
reference wouid DF roade to the rest. They had �iso discussed trying to inrlude
all the definitions so there was less cross referencing. He stated he would
prepare the defiuitions both ways, bnt he prei'erred the second alternative as
it er.hauces the ordinance as a gublic informatzon document. •
Section 2: Mr. Deblon stated that Ms. Callahan had changed the "Property Line
Noise Standards° ta "Receiving Land Use Standards".
Sec. 2, Subd. 2: Mi. DeBlon stated that they were going to spell out the
zoning districts.
Sec. 2. Subd. 3: PIr. Deblon stated this meant that Federal, State and Coar.ty
highways are exempt from these Receiving Land Use Staudards, and it may oe
something L'hat they would not want to say in the ordinance. There are presently
speed and muf£ler laws that are in ef.`ect right now, and these laws aill.
reduce noise from these sources. The only other way to reduce the noise emitted
along these sources would be noise �.alls, berms, and plantings, and this was n�t
fessible to do everywhere in the City.
Mr. Svanda stated that t(s. Callahan had stated in t�er Zetter that Sec. 2,
Si�bd. 3, was "disputable". P`,aybe PSr. Deblon could find ont what she meant by
that sCatement.
Sec. 3, Source limission Standards, 5ubd. ]., P�otor Vehicle Noise I.imi.ts: Pfr, Deblon
stated he woul.d probably sprll ou[ tihe regulaLions in fu1Z, but would only
refer to PiPCA 6PSCARSy (Piotor Vetiicle Noise LimiCS-1J77).
Sec. 3, Subd. 2, Const:uction �ryuipment: Pir. Deblon stated he had uoted that
he should checic Section 1.70 of thc Gity Code. Al.so, n noise le��el of IIS db3
ehould be inserCed in tlie third line.
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Sec. 4, Centra7. Air Conditioning Equipment: Mr. Deblon stated he would have to
c}�eck the Building Code tn see if ttiere is anything existing to conCrol central
air conditioning equipment.
Sec. 5, Operational Limits, Subd. 2, Outdoor Power Implements: Pir. Deblon
stated this was chanoed from "7:00 a.m. and 10:00.p.m. on weekdays and 9:00 a.m.
and 9:00 p.m. on Saturdays" to "7:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. on weekdays and 9:00 a.m.
and 9:00 p.m. on weekends and holidays".
Sec. 5, Subd. 3, Construction Activities: Mr. Deblon stated this was to be
deleted as it was covexed under Section 110 of the es:isting code.
Sec. 5, Subd. 4, Refuse Hauling: Mr. Deblon sTaCed this was an addition, and
they would refer to Section 113.10 of the Gity Code. '
Sec. 6, Public Nuisance Noises Prohibited, Subd. 1(A) Horns, Signaling Devices,
etc.: Mr. Deblon stated this was not clear and may have w be reworded.
Sec. 6, Subd. 1(B) Radios, Phonographs, etc.: Mr. Deblon stated Chat "paging
systems" would have to 6e addressed in this section.
Sec. 6, Subd. 1(D) Animals: Mz. Deblon stated they would refex to
Chapter 302.03 of the City Code.
Sea 6, Subd. 1(E) E}chausts: Pir. Deblon stated that the last sentence
referring to snowmobiles would be deleted.
Sec. 6, Subd. 1(H) Recreational Motor Vehicles: Mr. Deblon stated the fol.lowing
should 6e added to Che end of the sentence: "except where otherwise aliowed
by law or o�here written permission is obtained."
Sec. 6, Subd. 1(I) Minn. Stat. 169.64: Mr. Deblon stated thisstatute would
be spelled out in fu1L
Sec. 8, Pozaers and Duties of (Noise Control Officer), Subd. 4, Noise Impact
Statements: Pir. Deblon stated he would look up Section 124.04 of the City
Code and incorporate this review into the Planning Commission. At the last
Coumission meeting, it was discussed that the Cou�mission would like the Planning
Commission to be involved in the review of this noise impact statement'.
Sec. 9, Variances: Mr. Deblon stated they would reference the City's variance
procedure.
Sec. 10, EnforcemenC: Mr. Deblon stated he had a note to look at Chapter 901
of the old city ordinance.
tfr. Deblon stated that in going over the noise ozdinance, two questions the
Commission members shouldl�ep in mind are:
1. Is this addressin� th2 City of Fridley's problemsl
2. Does thet�Cy of Fridlcy mally want u noise ordinance?
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Mr. Deblon stated that Ms. Callahan iswilling to follow this noise oxdinance
throagh I'lanning Commission and City Council, and she is.moze than willin� to
attend another commission meeting to discu�s it further.
MOTION by Mr. Erick:,on, seconded by Mr. Svanda, to conti�ue discussion on
tl�e proposed noie� ordinance at the next meeting. Upon a voice vote� all voting
aye, Vice-Chairperson Sporre declared the motion carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMF:�`1T •
MOTION by Mr. Erir.kson, seconded by Mr. Svanda, to adjourn ther.�eting. Upon a
voice vote, all vuting aye, Vice-Ciiairperson Sporre declared [l�e L�ugust 19, i980,
Environmental Quaiity Commission neeting adjourned at 9:50 p.n.
Respec[fully submitted,
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CI7Y Of FRIDLEY
ENVIROfJMGIdTAL QUALITY COh11�1ISSI0N
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CALL TO ORDER:
Acting Chairperson Svanda called the PJovember 18, 19$0, Environmental Quality
Commission meetinc� to order at 7:38 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present
Members Absent
Richard Svanda, Lee Ann Spor�e, Bruce Peterson,
Jon Frickson, Dave Engstrom
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Others Present: Bi11 Deblon, Assistant Planner
Nasim Qureshi, City Manager
Lon Loken,
APPR4VAL OF SEPTEMBER 16, 1980, EPIVIRCNP4ENTAL QtlALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:
M.�TIDN BY NS. ��RRE, SECONDED BY MR. ENr-.cmnnM,. TO APaanr� g�y.E SEPTEMBSF' 'ti,- 1980,
ENVIRONMENa^AL QCIALITY COMldISSION 1�INUTES. �
7he following chang° was made to ihe minutes; On page�l3, under Ttem 6, the
last partof the motion should read: "Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Vice-Chairperson Sporre declared the motion carried unanimously.
UPON�R VOICE VOTE, 1dLL VOTING AYE, RCTING CHAIRPERSOId SVANDA DECLARED 2XE �
SEPTSAfS�R S6, I980, ENVIRONP2ENTAL �JUALITY COOfM2SS2QN MINUTES APPROVED AS AMENDED.
1. CON7INUED: NOISE ORDINANCE - LON IOKEN
Mr. Deblon stated he had met with Kathleen Callahan a couple of times in order
to revise the noise ordinance draft, and they had finally arrived at this
current drafit. Copies of this draft were mailed to h1s. Callahan and Mr. Loken.
Ms. Callahan was not able to come to this meeting, so P1r. Loken was attending
in her place. P4r. Deblon stated he would like P1r. Loken to give any input he
felt ihe ordinance needed, lacked, etc.
Mr. Loken stated that in looking at this ordinance, he did not have a 7ot to
say, ather than he envied many parts of it anc'•wished they �vere in Bloomington's
City Code. He stated ii ��+as an excellent atte�npt in providing a comprehensive
noise code for the City of Fi-idley. He stated enforcement of the code was
goin9 to be quiie easy because of the easy tvardiny and concisement of wording.
The Conanissio❑ mem6ers reviewed the drafted noise ordinance with Mr. Loken and
made the fo}lotiding changes:
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Under Section 124.02, Receiviny Land Use Standards, the Commission concurred
that Item N3 be changed to read as follows:
3. Sound levels resulting from cumulative travel oF motor vehicles
on staie and county highways and railroads are exempt from these
Receiving Land Use Siandards but not other sections of this
ordinance relating to motor vehicles and railroads. This does
not exempt individual motor vehicles from any and all other federal
state, or local renulations. It is the intent of t e City to reduc
ig way noise in the varaous land areas surrounding highways to or
below the requirements of this section when and wherever possible.
Mr. Erickson stated that "city official" was mentioned in the ordinance, yet
there was no definition of "city �fficial" on page 1.
Mr. Loken stated that the definition for "city official" used by Bloomington
was "a duly authorized representative of the city as designated by the City
Manager". He stated this left it open so that the city official could encompass
anyone on the staff. .
The Commission concurred that "City Official" be listed in 5ection 124.�1,
Definitions, as follows: ' ..
2. Ciiy Cfficial - An�du7y-.authorized'r�presentative of the Citv as :
desiqnated by tite City hlanager.
In Section 124.04> Central Air Conditioning Equipment,�last sentence, "Section 2"
should be changed to "Section 124.02".
Mr. Deblon stated that throughout this ordinance, whenever another section of
the City Code was referenced, he had included it in this ordinance for better
understanding and so people would not have to look up these sections separately.
h1r. Erickson stated it aras rather cumbersome. He stated he would recommend
against including the referenced ordinances. These sections can just be adopted
by reference. He stated the Ciiy Attorney should be consulted as to whether
these reference ordinances should be inserted for clarity. Tf�ey could be
included in the draft �ow, but probably shoulci be deleted later.
After some consideration, the Commission agreed thai Mr. Deblon should delete
the wording of the referenced ordinances from the draft noise ordinance and
that all references ordinances be put on a separate sheet of paper to be
attached for the Planning Coinmission's information.
In Section 124.06, Public Nuisance Noises Prohibited, Item 1-B, Radios,
Phonographs, etc., the Commission concurred that the follotiain sentence should
be deleted: "The operation of any such set, instrument, pionograp , mac ine or
device between the hours of ten (10} o'clock p.m. and seven {7) o'clock a.m. in
such a manner• as to be plainly audible at a distance of fifty (50) feet from the
building, structure or vehicle in which it is located shall be prima facie
evidence of a violation of this section."
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Iro 5ection 124.06, Public Pluisance Floises Prohibited, Item 1-C, Loud Speakers,
Amplifiers for Advertising, the Commission concurred that the followirg be
inserted at the end of the paragraph: "which sha11 disturb the peace, quiet,
and comfort of the neiqhborinq inhabitants
In Section 124.06, Pub7ic t�uisance Noises Prohibited, Item 1-D> Animals, the
Commission concurred that the present wording shouid be deleted and that the
wording used in the Bloomington City Noise Ordinance be inserted: "Animals.
No person shall keep_ai� animal that disturbs the comfort or repose of person<
...`-ib... ��Srini+v hv itc f�'PnIlPrlf: OY continued IlO1Se.�� � �
Mr. Loken asked the Commission members if they had given any thought to a noisy
party or noisy gathering ordinance? He hanued out copies of "Bloomington
City Ordinance - Sec. 12.08.01, Participation in fVoisy Parties or Gatherings".
He stated this ordinance is printed on a sriall card that the Bloomington Police
carry with them, and the police officers realiy like this ordinance. He stated
the Commission should show this to the Fridley Police �epartment. He stated
this ordinance was not in 6loomington's noise ordinance. He stated the Commission
may vrant to put a"noisy party or gathering" ordinance" as a new Item 1-C under
Section 724.06, Public Nuisance iJoises Prohibited".
The Commission concurred that tf�is "noisy party or gathering" ordinance be
as Item 1-C under Section 124.06, but tfiat it snould first be shown to the
Fridley Police Department to see if tney fieel this type of ordinance would
hel pful .
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In Section 124.09, Variances, delete all wording and reference Variance procedures.
t+lr. Erickson stated that under Enforcement, Section 124.10, it mentioned a
"noise control officer". If they are going to add a"noisy party or noisy
gatherir.g" ordinance, they shouid not exclude the police officer who would be the
one enforcing some of the things in the noise ordinance.
The Commission concurred that "City Official" should be redefined as follows
under Section 124.01, Definrtions:
2.
ial - A noise control
nted reoresentative c
lice officer, or any other
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The Cotranission concui°red that "city official" be inserted in place of "noise
rnntrnl nfficar" thro�ahoUt the ordinance.
The Gommission concurred that under Section 1?4.10, Enforcement, Item #3,
Lriminal Penaity, be reworded as fo7lows: "The violation of any provision of
this ordinance except Section 124.03, Subdivision 1, is a misdemeanor as defined
b Piinnesota State Statute. The violation of Section 124.03, Subdivision 1, is
a petty mis emeanor as defined by Minnesota State Statute.
The Conunission then concurred that under Sectian 124.1�, Enforcement, the
Enforcement chapter of the City Code could just be adopted by reference.
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[�JUIROhJ14ErITAL QUAIITY CCt1�1ISSIUN t1L"ETItIf, PlOVEI•1QER 18,.1�€30 PA 36 ..,
M01'IOfJ BY MS. SPORRE, SL•'CO:JDED.I3Y MR. 1'RZCKSON� TO AL�PT TIIL•' DR7�FT NOISE �-
ORJINAFlCF. 11S Nili!lUL7J SPJ T!!li J4Sl1UI't'S, lI;JU TO REG'Ql?M11ENll APYROVdL�OF T!!YS NOISE�
ORDIlJANCB FY T1fE PLANdVZNC CO,"-1ld.I£�SZON 11NU CITY COUi7CIL. �
UPO1J A VOICE VOTE, 7lLL VOTZNG AYE, ACTZNG CN717RPL'RSOP SVIINDR DECLARED �TllE
MOTION CARRIED UN�INZIfOUSLY. . . �
Mr. Erickson stated he would like to express *.he Commissibn's appreciation to
Mr. Lo'r.en and the City of 6loomington for the�r assistance in the drafting of
this noise ordinance.
t4r. Loken stated he would also like to thank the Commission and Staff. He
stated it has been exciting for him to follo�� through with this ordinance.
2. CONTINUED: ONAN/Pi�DTP,OiyIC CREOSOTE ISSUE _ �
Mr. Deblon stated that as stat?d in the 4ledne�day, October 29, issue of the
htinneapolis Trib�ne, theFbllution Control Ager�cy 3oard has allowed the Pollution
Control Agency to sue Onan Corporation and 6oise Cascade.
Mr. Svanda stated that as a member of the Plarning Comrnission, he had gotten a
copy of the Environmental A,ssessment 4Jorksheet (EA4;) on the 4`edtronic propo5ed
expansion. He stated ihe EF,iJ did not talk abeut the creosote problem at ai��,
and he thought that ��as a very serious omission. He stated that he appearel
at the Oct. 6 City Cou��cil meeting anci made a state,nent to that effect. As a
result of that. vthen tf�e City Council nassed a motion nn thA EAW in the nrncess
of transmitting it on�to the Environinental Quality Qoard, they did include in
their cover letter reference to s�m� previous key documentation and reports
written on the creosote issue. He stated the docuinent is now out on public
notice in the State Registrar. He was not sure when the Envirormenta7 Quality
Board would be making a decision on it.
1dOTSON BY tfR. PETERSGN, SECONDED BY FfS. SPOHRE, TO CONTINUE THE ONRN/MEDTRONIC
ZSSUE AS r]N INFOIL'�fRTIONAL ITEAf TO BE BROUGHT BACK BY STAFF U.NDER "OTHER BUSIhESS"
WHFN A;OI2E INFO.ti:�?TIOPJ IS RVAILFiBLS, tlND TNAT CO3IMISSZON MEI:IIERS RSCfi2VE' COPIE.S
OF ALL IlDDITIONAL INFORMATION.
UPON A VOiCE.VOTE� ALL VO'PING RYE, F�CTING CHAIRPERSON SVRNDA DECL7IRED THE MOTIOH
CARP.IED UN11NIhlOUSLY.
3. CONTINUED: 7RUMK HIGNIdAY 1�fNORTH CROSSTO;dN
Mr. Deblon stated that according to the OveralT Development Schedule, the draft
of the Environmental Impact Statement should he distributed on Dec. 1; 1980.
He stated he has not been notified of any other f�orth hianagement Committee
meetings.
PlOTION DS' MS. SPORRE, SP.CONDED IiY MR. PETERSOV, 1'D CONTINUS TRU.Ni, HIGfINf1Y 10� -
NORTH'CROSSTO[dN r7S AN iNFOI2:1�7T1"C1Nll7, ITEi�1 PO RE URDUGIIT IfACK BY STFiF'F UNDEF
"OTXER EUSI�NF.'SS" t�'flEN P.1DI:E I:NFDt�.'•SA'lION IS Al'dILd73LE. .
t7FOV ll VOICE VOTE, ALL t/OTINC dYE, ACSING C(IIlIlPERSON SViIA'DA DF,CLIIRED TfIL lfOTION
CIlP.RIED UiVAVIA70U: LI'. �
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CALL TO ORDER:
CITY Of FRIDLEY
GOMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COF�9ISStf�
M�ETIN6
DECEMBER 9, 19II0
Chairperson Oquist called the December 9, 1980, Gommunity Development Gomnission
meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: LeRoy Oquist, A1 Gabel, Kenneth Vos, Sharnn 6ustafson
Members Absent: Connie Modig
Others Present: Bill Deblon, Associate Planner
APPROVAI OF SEPTEMBER 9, 1980, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COt4MISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY 1�.�GRBEL, SEGONDED BY DR. VOS, TO APPROVE THE SEPTE.�ffiER 9� 1980,
COMMUNITY AEV6LOPMENT.COMMISSION MINUTES. � �
IIPON A�VOICE VO2E, ALL VOTING AYS� CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLRRED THfi MOTION
CARRIED UNAIVIMOUSLY. �
1. DISGUSSION OF ORDINANCE FOR CONDO CONVERSION LICENSE:
Mr. Deblon stated that Ordinance No. 209. Multiple Dwellings that the Commission
reviewed at their September 9, 1980, meeting has been repealed, The Housing
Maintenance Ordinance No. 673 has replaced 209. He stated that Ordinance No. 673
is a very broad ordinance which encompasses many things. On page 10, under
Section 220.11, it got into the licensing of rerttal units. He stated he would
like the Comnission to review this ordinance and give the Staff some direction
on what should be done regarding an ordinance fior condo conversion licensing.
He thought maybe they needed a separate rental cQnda camersion ordinance.
Mr. Deblon stated that in the definitions in Ordinance No. 673, there were no
definitions for "multiple dwelling", "condominiUm", or "conversion condominium".
Mr. Oquist staied the licensing in Ordinance No: 573 was just to control the
maintenance aspect. He was leaning towards having a,separate licensing ordinance
for condo conversion.
Mr. Oquist stated that"4rdinance No. 673 should;.he reviewed by someone. Multiple
dweltings is referred to on page 9, but there is:no definition of multiple
dwellings. If t{iey do recommend a separate ordinance on condo conversion, they
could say that this Housing Maintenance Ordinance No. 673 should apply to that
ordinance for maintenance purposes. He did not want to see the licensing
incorporated in Ordinance No. 673.
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Dr. Vos stated that if they want to have anything about condo conversions,
he did not think they wou]d want to hide it in Ordinance No. 673. If they
feel the highest priority is maintenance,.then they could just make this
ordinance refiect condo conversfon as well as rental units.
Mr. Oquist stated he thought thQy ought to recommend that Staff take the old
Ordinance No. 209 and refine it to be for condo"conversion, along with the
recoc�nendations made by the Cor�unission at their Sept. 9 meeting, and also make
reference to Ordinance No'. 673 for maintenance and reference State Law. He
felt licensing was the only way to go.
MOTION BY DR. VOS, SECONBED BY MR. GABEL, TO RECOMMEND THAT STAFF DBVELOP AN.
ORDINANCE ON LIC&NSSNG F'QR CONDO CONVERSION BY USING THE REPfiALED ORDINANCE 1l209,
THE HOUSING MRIN2ENANCE 4RDINANeE #673, STATE CHAPTER 582 ON CDiVDOMINIUMS AND
LIMITED PARTNERSHIP� AND�'TNE RECOMMENDATIDNS MADE BY THfi COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
COMMZSSION ON SEPTEMBER 9y`1980.
UPON A VOICfi VOT6, ALL.VQTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE�MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. -�. �
Mr. Gabet requested Staff Lo look into why the definition of "muttiple dwelling"
was not ir�cluded in �rdinance No. 673. If it was inadvertently left out of
the ordinance, the Commission would recommend that this definition be included
in the ordinance.
Mr. Deblon stated that' the Commission should review the information on "II-V
Condominium Conversion Plat filing Requirement" and °III Housing in the Metro-
politan Area" that was h�n�ed o�at at the meeting.
2. OTHER BUSINESS:
Ms. Gustafsan stated she has been on the Commission for two years, and she is
very disappointed in the purpose of this cortmission. There are no definite
goals or responsibilities given to the Cortxrtission. This is a comnunity develop-
ment commission, this is a developing community, and what does the Commission do
to participate in the development of the comnunity? The other comnissions have
more responsibility than'tfiis comnission.
Mr. Oquist stated he agreed witM Ms. Gustafson.
Dr. Vos stated that in looking at City Council minutes, he felt the City Council
is taking over much of the`responsibility that should be given to the citizen
eommissions.
Ms. Gustafson stated-that if that is the reason, she objected to it. She also
thought there were community development block grant funds the Commission could
certainly have a voice in the distribution of or deciding what these funds could
be used for. There are many programs that the Comnission mert�ers, as informed
citizens, could participate in,.but they don't. They do not know anything that
is going on. She resentFd that, and she did not feel like spending her personal
time, even once a month,`to attend a commission mee'Cing when she did not know
anything or was not able to contribute anything to the community.
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MEETING. DECEMQER 9: l
Mr. Oquist read the °Purpase" of corrxnunity development from the Cortmunity
Development Goals and �tt�eetives: "The purpose of 'cc�mmunity development' is
ta pramate a cammunity for �ts citizens which will provide the best environment
for the experience of'living."
Mr. Deblon stated that this purpose seemed too broad to provide direction.
Ms. Gustafson stated her complaint was not with Staff but with the struct�re
of the Commissibn.
Mr. Oquist stated he would relay these concerns to the Planning Commission.
ADJOURNMENT:
� �.� MOTION BY MR. GABEL� SECONLED BY M5. GTJSTAF'SON, TO AA70URN TH8 MEETSNG. UPQN�
R VOICB Vd!'E, ALL VOTINCs AYE� CHRIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED TNE DECEMBER 9, 1980,
� ��� COMM(JNITY-DEVEIAPMENT Q3MMI5SZON MEETING1FhTOURNED AT 9:25 P.M. �
Respectfully submitted,
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORTTY
MEETING
DECEMBER 11, 1980
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Nouck called the December 11, 7980, Housing & Redevelopment
Authority meeting to order at 7:45 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Russell Houck, Elmars Prieditis, Duane Prairie
Members Absent: Larry Cort�ners, Carolyn Svendsen
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Virginia Steinmetz, League of 4Jomen Voters
APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 13, 1980, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MO'lZON BY MR. PRAIRIE, SECONDED BY MR. PRIEDITIS� TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER�Z3, 1980,
HOUSZNG & REDEVELOPMENT AUTNORITY MINUSES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A� VOICE VITE, ALL VOTING RYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON XOUCK DfiCLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Boardman stated that if there was no objection, he would like to request
that Item 2, Financial Report, be moved to the first item on the agenda as
Mr. Sid Inman was at the meeting to discuss this item.
The NRA �mbers concurred with this request.
1. FINANCIAL REPOR7:
A. Discussion on City Investments and Budgeting - Sid Inman
Mr. Boardman stated that at the last meeting, there was some
discussion on city investments and budgeting. The Authority had
requested that someone from the City Finance Department come to
the meeting to discuss what the city investmenis are attd how they
process the budgeting. At this time, he stated he would turn the
discussion over to Mr. Inman and let him discuss what the invest-
ment policy is and how they intend to keep the budgeting reports.
Mr. Inman stated that Mr. Boardman has asked him some time ago to
took into the possibitities of invesiing the proceeds for the
present upcoming HRA bond sale and any additional bond sales they
might have, also the investment of the increment. Mr. Boardman had
also suggested that the HRA might be interested in hearing about
how the City invests, what rules apply to government investing, etc.
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NOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, DECEMBER ]1, 1980 PAGE 2
Mr. Inman stated that, 6asically, the City is under state and federal
guidelines for investing id7e funds. They are restricted to investing
in government-secured types of investment vehicles. Since interest
is a function of risk, government securities are very low risk, if any,
and thereforelhe interest tends to be different than a private company
investment.
Mr. Inman stated they have changed their investment philosophy in the
last three months to what he likes to refer to as a"yield investment
phiiosophy", being they don't look strictly at the interest rate, but
more towards the'yield off the vehicle. The interest rate they are
getting is 78.35�.
Mr. Inman stated their major source of information is Merrill-Lynch,
and he talks to them each morning. They also get information from
The Wall Street, the Kiplinger Report, and Standard & Poors. With the
HRA money, after discussing it with Merrili-Lynch and Mr. Boardman, it
would be his recomrr�ndation that they stay as shori as possible, gaining
the interest rate, with the proceeds of the bond sale they have a
Light cash flow situation on. If the interest rate on the short term
is tailing off, then they could go for 30-60-90 days depending upon
the cash fiow requirements. On the increment amount, he thought that
should be invested basically on whatever the market is. One other
suggestion he and Mr. Boardman talked about was the possibility of
co-mingling the NRA mpney with the City money which is advantageous
to the HRA.
Mr. Inman stated he reports to the City Manager at least every three
days on how they are doing on investments, He stated he would be
wi79ing to report to the HRA in whatever way the HRA wished.
Mr. Prairie stated he would like to see a simple one page profit and
loss statement each month.
Mr. Boardman stated he saw no problem with that. Beginning in
January, the HRA will be receiving a balance sheet and a profit and
loss siatement.
B. 1981 HRA Budget Report
Mr. Boardman stated that attached to the minutes and agenda was the
1981 Budget Report. He stated he was looking for approval of this
budget at this meeting.
Mr. Boardman and Mr. Inman reviewed the budget with the HRA members.
Mr. Inman stated that
January, he would give
happened in 1981.
if the HRA was interested, by mid to the end of
them a complete list of everything that
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HOUSING & REOEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, DECEMBER li, 1980 PAGE 3
MOTTON BY MR. PRAIRIE� SECONDED BY MR, PRIEDITIS� TO APPROVE THE
PROGRAM BUDGET FOH 1981 AS PRESENTED.
UPON A VOSCE VOTE, ALL VOTINC RYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON HOUCK DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRZED UNRNIMOUSLY.
Mr. Inman stated that if it would be helpful, he would be happy to
attend any HRA meetings to explain the financia] reports.
The HRA members thanked Mr. Inman for coming to the meeting.
2. CENTER CISY REDEVELOPMENT:
A. Update on Phase III Development
l. Progress Report from Jerry Remmen on Phase III proposal
Mr. Boardman stated he had received two letters from Mr. Remmen
dated Dec. 4, 1980, and Dec. 9, 1980. The only action needed
by the HRA is to receive these two letters into the record.
Mr. Boardman stated he talked to Ptr. Remmen that evening on
the telephone. Things look fairly well, and Mr. Remmen stated
that money probably won't be too much of a problem. He has a
financial backing commitment for 10�% money.
MOTION BY MR.�PRIEDITIS, 5ECONDED BY MR. PRAIRIE, SO RECEIVE
LETTERS DATED DEC. 4, 1980, RND DEC. 9, 1980, FROM JERRY REMMEN,
Itfi': STATUS REPORT�ON REDEVELOPMENT AUTXORITY ON PHASE II2,
CENTER CITY REDEVEZAPMENT, CENTER CITY PLAZA SHOPPINC CENTER,
FRIDLEY, MINNE50TA.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL YOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPfiRSON HOUCK
DECLA.RED THE MOTIDN CARRIED UNAN7140USLY.
B. �p raiser Selection will be placed on Jan. 8, 1981, meetin
Mr. Boardman stated discussion on this item should be continued
until the Jan. 8, 1981, meeting.
C. Bond Issue fQr Center Gitv Redevelopment Project
Mr. Boardman stated the HRA has received at the meeting Memo �80-03
with attachments. Those attachments are three resolutions from
City Council.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTNORITY MEETING, DECEMBER 11, 1980 PAGE 4
Mr. Boardman stated the City Council met on Dec. 8, and both
Mr. Bob Ehlers, Ehlers & Rssociates, and himself were at that
meeting to discuss the bond issue. The bond issue was approved by
City Council and was authorized for a sale on Jan. 19, i98i. The
bids will be opened on Jan. 19 at 4:30 p.m. at Ehlers & Associates.
After some computer runs, those bids will be brought back to the
City Council meeting on Jan. 19 for either acceptance or denial.
Mr. Boardman stated the second resolution that was passed, No.127-19II0
was "A Resolution Authorizing Application and Agreement for Moody's
Municipa7 Bond Rating".
Mr. Boardman sta�ed the third resolution, No. 128-1980, was for
"Authorizing Financial Consulting Services Contract for Center City
Redevelopment Project Bond Sale".
MOTION BY MR. PRIEDZTIS� SECONDED BY MR. PRAIR�E� � RECEIVE INTO
THE REC(3RD RESOLUTION NO. 127-I980 AND RESULUTTON NO. 128-1980.
iiPON A-irUICE VOTE, ALL VOPING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON HOUCK�DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNAIVIMOUSLY. � .
Mr. Boardman stated that because the bond sate and bids are now on
Jan. 19, 1981, they have to change Resolution HRA-7-1980, because
it stated Jan. 15, 1981. So, he needed approval of Resolution No.
HRA-8-198Q amending Resolution No. HRA-7-1980 removing January ]5, l98]
MOTSON BY MR. PRIEDITIS� SECONDED 8Y MR. PRAIRSE� TO APPROVE
RESOLUTI6N NO. XRA-8-2980,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE,� VICE-CHAIRPERSON HOUCK DECLARED
THE MOTION CRRRSED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. CABLE TV (CONTINUED�
A. Review Material �
The HRA members
this item until
are present.
concurred that they should continue discussion on
the January meeting when Ms. Svendsen and Mr. Commers
Mr. Boardman showed slides on the Rehab Program and the Large Family
Home Ownership Program. He stated they may a7so want to get some
slides of Center City.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, DECEMBER 11 1980 PAGE 5
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION�BY FII2. PRRIRIE, SECONDED BY MR. PRIEDITIS, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON
R VOZCE VOTE, RLL VOTZNG AYE, VICE-CXAIRPERSON HOUCK DECLRRED THE DECEMBER Z1, 1980,
HOUSINC & IZEDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEfiTING ADJOURNED AT 9:23 P.M.
Respectfu]ly submitted,
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CITY OF ERIDLEY .
EN1fF�M�N3�tLI�TiNGY COhP1ISSI�# :
" r �GEh�ER 16, 198i1
' £ALL T0 ORDER:
Chafrperson Svanda cailed the December 76, 1980, Eriviroemental Quality Comnission
taeeitTng to order at 7:35 p.m.
R6L1: CALk:
f�a�ers Present: 'Richard Svanda, Lee Ann Sporre, 8ruce Peterson (arr. 8:20 p.m.)
Members Absent; Jon Erickson, Dave Engstrom
Ott�ers Bresent: Bi17 t�bton,'Associate Plantter
Slaat�e ;�tthnSOn R�manco
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Mr. Svanda stated that �ppt�ova't of the minutes and approval of the agenda would
be done later in the meeting; because of the ]ack of a quorum.
1: REVIEW �F PERMII` APPLICATION FflR PROPflSED DREDGfN6 OF MISSISSIPPI RIVER:
Nls: 5porre asked Mr. Deblon"to .review the gouertt�ntai process for a permit
apPlication.
Mr.::Ueblon stated that a permit is necessary to aiter a cross section of any
publ�c waters, and the Department of Natural Resources {DNR) is the agency
resp(�nsfbleito issue that permit. Rimanco, Inc., is the company that has
proposed to do this. Rimanco has hired a consultant, Indeco, to do a study
for-the feasibitity of applying and following thraugh with the application.
Mr. Johnson stated they work with Fridley, Minneapolis> Broaklyn Center,
and Nenneptn and Anoka Counties. There are actually three permit applications--
orre to the�Ar�tRy Gorps of Engineers, one to the Minnesota DNR, and one to the
Minnesota Pollution Control Agency (MPCA). The MPCA and the Corps of Engineers
issue public notices, whieh means they take cott�ment5 for a 3�-day comment and
discussion=period. At the end of that periQd, they cansider all the comments
and`then make a decision. Rigfit now, they are in;'khe DNR's 30-day comt�nt
periq�d. Rimanco is required by DNR permit aQpliedtsca procedures to send the
citie� a copy of the applicatit3n directly.
Mr. ,lohnson stated thai each af these three agettcies review the application on
tfie#r own ground; for instance, Che Corps of Engitieers is concerned about the `
effect on navigat�on on the nauigable channe] they esta6tished on the Mississippi,
Lhe MPCA is interested in water quality, and 0€�R is �t+�terested from an overatl
vi�wpoi�rt of pub}ic benefit, fish and wildlife, and �ter quality,
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ENVIROMMENTAL QUALI7Y COhiMISSIEHV MEETIN6, dEGEMBER 16, 1980 PAGE 2
`Mr. Svanda asked'9f'an environmental impact statement was required.
Mr. Johnson stated the permit applicatign, particutarly for the Corps of
Engineers, is a pretty exiensive environmental quest�onhaire, and no environ-
menta) impact sta�ement is required,
Mr: Svanda asked what the possihle impact or i:mp]ications were on the City of
Fridiey.
Mr. Johnson stated ihe impacts an the City of Frid7ey are verq minimal. ?he
nnly contact they have with the City of Fridley is that they are within the .
city limits down the center of the river. They fiave no operations on land in
the City of fridley. Everyth9ng they are going to do wi11 be on the west bank
of the river in the City of Minneapolis.
Ms. Sporre asked how tbe dredging of the river would change the characteristics
ot the river as it is noW.
Mr. Johnson stated the dredgittg,process w917 take about a year and a half.
They wi11 dredge in one area 6ecause of the current and the codrse nature of
the materials. Tfie Corps af Engineers speculates that from the:Coon Rapids Dam
to the Soo Line Bridge wqere they have the navigation channel', al) of this
material wi11 keep eroding down until it reaches wfiat would be called a naturai
grade. It'is in the aetive erasion process right now, and that is why the
Corps of Engineers has to dredge each year.
(Mr. Peterson arrived at 8;20 p.m.)
Mr. Deblon reviewed for �lr. Peterson that Rimanco proposes to dredge 370,000
cubic yards of suitable tnater9al base fil] from the Mfssissippi Riroer for
highway construction and some bridge construction. Ittdeco has done some testing,
and they have found no Concentrations of any pol7utants, heavy metals, PCB's,
etc., in the actual material. As far as turbidity, most of the material is high
in gravel: The Corps of Engineers has a nine foot channei a7i the way from the
Soo Line Bridge to Louisiana, and:the Corps of Engineers fias to dredge a certain
amount of materia9 each year, roughly 40,000 cubic yards. Some of the material
proposed ta be dredged would eventual3y fill in as if erodes down'the river,
and by removing some of this material, there would be less material that would
end up in the Corps of Engineers channe7. Also, material coming from the Goon
Rapids Dam wou]d eventual7y fill in and levei off the area that is to-be dredged.
Ms. Sporre stated'she was concerned about energy. Was it more energy-efficient
to dredge the river far fiil or obtain fiil from a 7and site?
Mr. Johnson exp'Fained that dredging the river for fi}1 was much more economicat
than hauling fitl"fram a remote landfill pit, .
Mr. Svanda asked if the`Coiranission had any concerns #hat should be forwarded
through Staff t4 the MPGA, DNR, or Corps of Engineers. Ne stated he could not
think of any with this tiredging project. 'The City of Minneapolis has already
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�N�II�tONMENTAL QtfAl:iTY �01�ISSIDN MEE7IN6 DECE�£R 15,� 1980 PAGE 3
e�tpressed concern about kt+�Y?ng Rimanco 'star�t a�,�i� �ase II rather than Phase I;
the DNR has expressed,a ��ern"about th� fdct ths# th�s project doesn't
benefit the downstrea�a g�se'fish populatian. ihe PCA ha's expressed concern
ab4ut contaminated sedime�►t ot�;pol.luted sedirt�ni. i�te,y have taken samples for
heavy metals> pesticides, PC8'§, oil and grease, atsd; apparently, have not
f�and any prob3em wiih the samples.
Mr. Jahnson stated the Cor�anission was welcome to expC�ess any concerns to any
onQ of`the three agencies or atl three, The comment period for the Gorps,of
Engineers has past. Ne thot�ght:comnenting to the DNR:wauld be the best method
of action.
Mr. Svanda stated his two matn concerns would be r�ot to,hit the water pipeline
ar the o�l pipeline (Asnv�o's pipeline).
Mr. Svanda stated he fe3t'the Cottmission would want to encourage Staff to
t�e�in aware of this project; and if anything comes up, that it be brought to
the City's and the Cntrsa�s��n's attention.
Ms. 5porre stated that �v�t'�Ft�u�h,the Comnission was not making any comments,
it did nnt mean the Cwrpitission did:nat care or did not share the State's review
pracess and long 'iist of concerns. It did mean ihat they 'have reviewed the
.; proj;ect and have raised no new issues in addition'to thase concerns already
raised by;the appr€rpriate state agency. She would 'tiice any new information'
brought to the Comnissian.
Mr. 5vanda thanked'Mr. Johnson for coming to the meeting and for answering all
their questions.
M01'IQN BY MS. SPOI�REr SECONDED BY MR. PYsTfiRSON, T0 RBCEIYB INTO Ttlfi RECORD THS
p�iUt��'T 1d2?FLICATZQN..FOR��THE PROPOSfiD DREDGING OF�TAE�-MZ5SSSSIPPZ RiVER BY SNDECD�
PXEFARSD FOR EtXMANCO, INC., Dt1TED OCTOBER 1980.
lTPQN A VOIC& VOT$, ALL VOTING AYB� CNAIRPERSON SiXi�lNDA DECLARED THE MOTION
GARRZED ilNAD1SM0U5LY.
lA3TIf�J BY �lS. 5P(3RRE, SEC�tTDED BY MR. PETERSON. TO RECOXMBND THAT TFIE LETTER
FR1X! 3'NDECO, DATTD OGTOBER 2Q, 1980, AND PLATTi 2 AND 3 OF THB MAPS SHOWING 2HE
pRpp�ED DRED�ING OF TXE MISSISSIPPI RIVER BE FOI�ARDSD ON TO THE PLANNING
CDAlIRTSSTlJN, AND 11� ADVISS THE, PLANNSNC COMMISSION . THRT THS CITY OF MINNEAPOLI5
HA5 QilESTIONBD THE PHASE T 7]REIIGiNG BECAUSE 6F �`NE .P.RIMARY WATSR INTAICE.
UPON A YOICB VOTE, ALL VCTR'IIYG J1YSr CXAIRPERSO# S�+aANDA DfiCLARED THS MOTION
Q11RFZ'BA UNANIMO(7$LY.
2. ;;A,�P,_,�,R01t+4�- Of NOVfh�ER 18� 198Q, ENVIRONMENTA! QtI,ALTTY GQMMISSION MINUTES:
� 8Y FlS. 5PpRRE„ SPsE°ON�SD BY MR. PETfiRSON, TO APPROVE THE PlOVEMBER 18, I980,
Sl!1VSR(1NNJ�A)TAL QUALITY GCJ#MTSSION MSAIUT65 AS WRiTTEN.
UPCdy A�ICS VOT6, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CNAIIiPSRSON SVANDA �CLARED THE I�TION
CARRLSD UNANZMOU5LY.
ENVfRONMENTAL Q�ALITY COMMI55I0N MEETING, DEGEMBER 16, 1980 PAGE 4
3. APPROUAL OF R�ENDA:
7he fol}owing items were added to the agenda under "�ther 8usiness"t
A. Consideration of Meeting Aate;Change-
B. Waste Management`Board Meetings
C. Metropolitan Issues Kit
MOTIDN BY MR. PSTERSON, $ECONDEp BY MS, SPORRE, TO ADUPT THE RGEHDR AS'AMENDED.
UPON A VOICE' VOT�,'A%L VOTING AYS� CHAIRPER50N SVANDA DECLARED THE D70TION
CARRFSD UNANIMOUSLY.
4. EARTH DAY CLEAN-UQ PR06RESS:
Mr.-FJeb]on stated he had ta]ked to Jon �rickson on the telephone,and Mr. Erickson
stated he had not received ar+y telephone c�17s w9th regard to the Earth Day
Clean-tlp: Both his name and Ms. Sporre`s name were on the ]etter sent aut to
the civic organizations,`and Ms. Sporre hac!'not received any eaTls either.
Mr. Svanda stated the Commission had agreed at their }ast meetirtg that they
would wait on this item until the January meeting in order to give the civic
organizaiions an.adequate amount of time to respand tn the }etter.
M07'ION BY MS. SPEIRRB, SEGONDED BY i�. PETERSON, TO CONTINUE DISCtTSSION ON THE
SARTH DAY CLEAN-DP UNTIL THE JANUARY MEETING;
UPON A VOICE VOTB, ALL VOTING AY�', CHBIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSEY.
5.
OTHER BUSINESS:
A. Cansideration of Meeting Date Change
Mr. Svanda stated that both Mr, Erickson and Mr. fngstrom"had
expressed concern about possibly not being able to attend commission
meetings:becaus� af other meet9ng conflicts on the same night.
Mr. Svanda staied that since Mr. �rickson and Mr. Engstrom were not
at the meeting, this item should be continued until another meeting.
MOTSON BY MK. PETERSY)N, SECONDED BY MS. SPORRE, TO CONTINUE THS
�CONSZDfiRATION OF MEETZNG.DATE�CliRNGE UNTIL TXE NBXT MEETZ'NG. �
iIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL YOTING AYE, CHAZIZPERSON SVANDA DECLAR�D TfIS
MOTION t,'ARRIED TTNAI+tT�USLY.
B. Waste Manageme�t Baard Meetinqs
Mr. Svanda`sta�ed he had attendeQ a Waste Management Board meet~ing.
The Waste Maflagement Board is holding a tetal of`76 meetings between
now and i�arch 1981--4 i,n each of the 7 metro counties and 4 in each
of the 12 regi�nal deVetopment corrmission areas.
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Mr. Svanda stated fiQ fu�nd out about the mee�"��g quite by accident.
t{e was a littie �t, because h¢ assumed that the 4daste Manage�nt
Soard had notifi���tE Clty of Frid7ey. He stated he would ]ike Staff
to mak�e sure that ea'ch: Gomnissiorr member is ncrE'ified of the next
meeting°and future meetings in Moka County.
'C. Metro Issues Kit
Mr. Peterson stated fie had received this from Metropolitan Cauncil.
It is a kit that includes a number of items regarding some of the
`things that Metropolitan Council does and some data. It also has
a,pubiications directony of various pieces c�f infarmation that are
availab7e regarding different issues. It iS 3amething designed
pa�rtiai)y for teachers 9n schools throughout. t�e Twin Cities area.
He found it somev�hat interesting. It was rit»i Eotally applicable to
the Commission, but he thought the Gonrnission roight he interested.
ADJOURPIh�NT:
�4'Ifk� BY hLS. SPORRE r 3$EONDBD BY MR. PET�RSON, TO RDlei7QfJRN TSE MEETING. UPON
A VOICS' VOTSr �L VOTTNG.AYE, CHRIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARH'D '1'AE DECSMBER 16, 1980,
S�iVIRONplENTAL 4�1�I�'f' ��I`�'SION MS&TINC ADJOURNED AT 3:30 P.M.
Respectfu]1-y submitted, '
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Reeot*dfng;Secretary
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October 20, 1980
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Office of the I�Sayor
City of Fridleq
6431 University Avenue, N. E.
Fridiey, t�I 55432
Dear Sir:
Enclosed is a copy af Rimanco, Inc.'s Minnesota D.N,R. application
for a permit to dredge'on the Mississippi R3ver< We are sending you
thfs copy at the direct3nn of Minnesota p,N,R. personnel snd the
application direcCions. We understand tHat your office maq have
jurisd3ctionai authority siace the.project is located partially within
the C3ty of Fridley. ,
Rimanco, Inc. 3s applging for x permit to excavate agproximatelq
3iU,000 cubic yards a�' suitable granular material from the river
channel exclusively for nse`as highway fz12 in the T.H. 94 (Inter-
state 44) constructiota under MN DOT contract numhers 7781-33 and ;
2781-235. The area of interest is tfie Mississippi River between
approximately 44th and 50th Avenues North in Minaeapolis. IiVDECO,
Inc., a consulting engineering firm, has been retained by Rimanco,
Tnc. £or preparation af this applicatiom and a11 associated follow
up.
We are available at your convenience to discuss aFry portion of the
app23cation. If yoss haue any questions or need any additional in-
formation, please call Mr. Blaine Johnson or myself at 543-6224. We
wouid greatly appreciate your expeditiotrs consideration of the permit
application.
V�r;* truly yours,
��r"L�.
Doug2as�'A. Spau ng
Manager, ltsin City
Division of INDEGO, Inc.
DASsmn -
Enelosvres
3u6�sldfery ot Jvhnson 8rbs, CorpvraQkrn
CITY OF FRIDLEY
P�ANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 7, 1981
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Harris called the January 7, 1981, Planning Commission meeting to
order at 7:37 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Mr. Harris, Mr. Treuenfels, Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist,
Ms. Hughes, Mr. Wharton
Members Absent: Mr. Svanda
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Bill Deblon, Associate Planner
Ed Clausman, 4544 Meadow Road, Minneapoli.s
David Steiner, 10532 Zion, N.W., Coon Rapids
Ray Cunningham, D. A. Farr Development Corp.
Mary Knutson, D. A. Farr Development Corp.
Brian Goodspeed, 73l Rice Creek Terrace
Stan Thompson, 4760 - 147 Lane N.W., Anoka
Rick Martin, 5275 Edina Ind. Blvd.
Rob Taylor, 5275 Edina Ind. Blvd.
Darrell Anderson, 75 S. 5th St., Minneapolis
Gerald Paschke, 592� N. Kirkwood Lane
Dr. Brandjord, Skyline Veterinary Hospita7
APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 17, 1980, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY iffi2. TREUENFELS� SECONDED BY MS. HUGHES� TO APPROVE THE DECEMBER 17� 1380�
PLANNZNG COMM755ION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE S�OTE, ALL VOTING 11YE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF AGENLIA:
MOTION BY MR. WHARTON� 5ECONDED BY MS. SCHNABEL� TO AMEND THE AGENDA IN ORDER
THAT "REVISION 20 PLRT 6, OF THE DARRELL FARR INNSBRUCK NORTH PROJECT" BECOME
ITEM #Z.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 7, 1981 PAGE 2
1. REVISION TO PLAT 6 OF THE DARRELL FARR INNSBRUCK NORTH PROJECT:
Mr. Boardman stated that when Mr. Farr went through with the original Plat 5,
he had approval for Plat 5. Plat 5 included all of the area which is now
classified as Plats 5 and 6. Plat 6 isihe second phase of what was generally
called Innsbruck 5th Addition. The original Plat 5 had some garage spaces.
They have now eliminated 16 garage spaces which had been set up before.
According to the Platting Ordinance for amendments, a77 that is required is
that "each proposed change shall be submitted before Planning Comnission for
a report thereon". It requires public hearing before City Council.
Mr. Boardman stated that Mr. Ray Cunningham of the Darrell Farr Development
Corporation was in the audience and would answer any questions the Planning
Corronission might have.
Ms. Schnabel asked that other than the elimination of the garage section, was
that the only modification that would be made? Would the units remain the same?
Mr. Cunningham stated that was correct, and the units would remain the same.
The reason they eliminated garages was because the first 30 units did not call
� for the extra garage spaces. Rather than plat them, they decided to eliminate
the garage spaces. The area will remain open natural space.
Mr. Harris stated that as he remembered in the original plat, there was supposed
to be some information and upgrading of certain services (as-builts, etc.) furnished
to the City, These had not been done. It was also his understanding at the
time of the original plat, that sewer and water were to be built to city speci-
fications. Had that been done?
Mr. Boardman stated the City has approved all the services. What they had been
missing was the as-builts. They did have a meeting that day and did receive
some drawings. At this tirr�, the City has no prob7ems with this.
MOTION BY MS. HUGHES, SECONDED BY MR. WHARTON, TO REFER THE REVISION R'O PLAT 6
OF THE DARRELL FARR INN5BRUCK NORTH PROJECT ON TO CITY COUNCIL WITH NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS. �
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY. �
2. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION_OF A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT,
SP #80-12 BY AFFILI Y VETERIN RY SERVICE: Per Section 20 .STOT, 3, p,
to a ow a Veterinary mergency C inic in oon Plaza Shopping Center, the
same being 6201 University Avenue N.E.
MOTION BY.MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MS. SCHNABEL, TO OPEN THE PUSLIC HEARING ON
SP #80-22 BY AFFILIATED VETERINARY SERVICE.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING
OPEN RT 7:49 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 7, 1981 PAGE 3
Mr. Boardman stated the location for the Ueterinary Emergency Clinic is the
Moon Plaza Building on the University Service Road. He stated he had received
the drawing from the group of doctors proposing the project, and he showed
this drawing to the Planning Cammission. He stated this would be an emergency
shelter and would be occupied only at night and on weekends. The dogs will not
be kept at the clinic.
Mr. Boardman stated that the present Zoning Code states that any veterinary
or animal storage location is required to have a concrete ceiling. The Planning
Gommission has recommended that this requirement be eliminated, but it is still
a requirement at this time. In this situation, if the Planning Commission
recommends approval ofthe special use permit, the petitioners will have to go
for a variance. Mr. Boardman stated the doctors were in the audience and would
be willing to answer questions.
Dr. Ed Clausman stated he is the President of the Affiliated Veterinary Service.
He stated this is a new concept in the Fridley area, and he would be glad to
outline what they are proposing to do. He stated the Affiliated Veterinary
Service would like a special use permit to locate their business in Moon Plaza
Shopping Center. They are interested in leasing the area available on the
southerly portion of the shopping center to offer emergency veterinary service
to the people of Fridley and surrounding comnunities. 7his service would consist
of after-hour emergency veterinary care to pets in the area that need life-
supporting treatment. The facility will operate only between the hours of
6:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m. Monday through Friday, and from 12:00 noon on Saturday
to 8:00 a.m. Monday morning. Most of the animals (80%+) will be treated immediately
and sent home with their owners. If needed, they will be taken to the regular
veterinarian the next day. Pets requiring observation during the night will be
released before 8:00 a.m. the following morning. The premises will be completely
vacated during the day.
Dr. Clausman stated that professional services of this type will offer the
following advantages to the people of Fridley:
1. Emergency veterinary service would not only be available to the
people of Fridley, but would be close at hand.
2. Their professional services would be available also to help the
Fridley Police Department with any after-hours stray or injured
animals.
3. Having their facility operated during the night would act as a
deterrent to crime or an early detection of fire.
Dr. Clausman stated their projected volume would be from 3-8 clients per night,
which is a very low volume and would not affect traffic. Basically, they are
set up because there are a certain number of emergencies with pets at night.
The veterinary profession has found that if they can establish an emergency
center with a veterinarian on duty, people can go there and get better and
faster service than they can by calling their regular veterinarian during the
night.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 7, 1981 PAGE 4
Dr. Clausman stated they would have two people on duty during the night--the
veterinarian and the veterinarian technician.
Dr. Clausman stated they started one emergency clinic about two years ago in
St. Louis Park, and it has been very successful. The reason for starting
another clirtic is because of the distance people would drive to get treatment
for a pet. He stated there would be no noise, because the animals are sick,
and ihere would be no odor problem. They do not have any odor problems at the
clinic in St. Louis Park.
Mr. Wharton asked if there would be any hazardous gases stored for anesthetic
purposes.
Dr. Clausman stated they would not. They may have oxygen. The main purpose
of the clinic is to stabilize the animal and get it to its regular veterinarian
in the morning, so it is only a life-supporting kind of thing. They would have
the minimum amount of emergency-type drugs.
Mr. Wharton asked if the animals would be left unattended at any time.
Dr. Clausman stated the definitely would not. The clinic is responsible to
20-25 veterinarian hospitals that use it, and the concept is that the veterinarian
be there at all times.
Ms. Schnabel asked how an individual would know about this clinic.
Dr. Clausman stated that they are listed in the yellow pages of the telephone
book, but most people are referred by the regular veterinarians who use the
clinic. They have also picked up some publicity because of public interest.
They have been on television a couple of times and have hand-outs. As they
are around longer, more and more people will know about it.
Ms. Hughes asked how sanitation would be handled.
Dr. Clausman stated that any ciean-up or disposal of animal waste would be
done through the regular sanitation channels.
Mr. Boardman stated that City Staff was not concerned and did not feel the
waste would be of any volume or any extent that it could not be disposed of
through the regular garbage pick-up. Since the operation is strictly during
the night and on the weekend, Staff did not fee] there would be a noise problem.
Dr. Brandjord of the Skyline Veterinary Hospita] stated their debris is picked
up two times a week. When they initially opened up, it was only once a week.
They have never had any problems with odors. There are no contagious diseases
they are dealing with that are going to be concentrated. Any animal that
comes into the hospital is already walking around the streets.
Mr. Harris stated there probably should be some sound-proofing board put on
the cor�wn wall .
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 7, 1981 PAGE 5
MOTION BY MS. HUGHES� SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
SP �80-I2 BY AFFILIATED VETERINARY SERVICE.
UPON A VOICE S�OTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARZNG
CIASED AT 8:17 P.M.
MOTION BY MS. HUGHES� SECONDED BY MR. TREUENFELS� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
RPPROVAL OF A REQUEST FOR R SPECIAL U5E PERMIT, SP #80-22, BY AFFILIATED
t/ETERINARY SERVICE: PER SECTSON 205.IOI� 3, p, TO ALLOW A VETERINARY EMERGENCY
CLINSC IN MOON PLAZA SHOPPSNG CENTER, THE SAME BEING 6201 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.fi.,
WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS:
1. THAT THE CLINIC BE USED FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES ONLY WITHTN THE
HOURS SPECIFIED--6:00 P.M. TO 8:00 A.M. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDRY� AND
22:00 NOON SATURDRY TO 8:00 A.M. MONDAY, RND AT ANY TIME DURING
OFFICIAL HOLIDRYS.
2. THAT SOUND PROOFSNG BE REQUIR%D ON THE INTERIOR WALL FOR THE REAR
TRERTMENT ROOM UP TO THE EXISTING RESTROOM FACILITY,
3. THAT THE OWNERS BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SANITATION AT A MINIMUM OF
TWD TSMES A WEEK.
Mr. Wharton stated he took..exception to the sound proofing. Sound control is
done by two different methods--by adding mass to the watl {and he did not feel
that was prudent at this stage) or by putting a sound absorbent material on the
wall (and he did not think that would be sanitary in that particular area of
the structure).
MOTION BY AII2. WHARTON, SECONDED BY MS. SCHNABEL, TO AMEND THE MOTION TO DELETE
STIPULATION #2 REQUIRING 50UND PROOF'ING. �
UPON A POICE VOTE, WHARTON, TREUENFELS� SCHNABEL� OQUIS2� AND HUGHES VOTING
AYfi� HARRIS VOTING NAY, THE MOTIQN TQ AMEND CARRIED 5-1.
UPON A VOICfi V02'E� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMRN HARRIS DECLA.RED THE MOTION TO
1ZECOMMS'ND APPROVRL TO CITY COUNCIL OF SP N80-I2 WITH STTPULRTIONS CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Boardman stated this would go to City Council on January 19; however, they
would probably delay this until the variance caught up and then handle both
requests at the same time.
3. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A REZONING REQUEST, ZOA #80-05, BY
WINFIELD DEVELOPMENT, IN .: o rezone ot 2, except t e ort er y 0
feet, an ots,3, ,, and 6 inclusive, Block 1, Paco Industrial Park,
from C-2 (general business areas) to M-1 (light industrial areas) io allow
the construction of a 98,000 square foot building to be used for office
and office warehouse, light manufacturing and service, the same being
7151-5257 Commerce Circle East.
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PLANNING COMMISSIQN MEETING, JANUARY 7, 7981 PAGE 6
MOTION BY MR. TREUENFELS, SECONDED BY MR. WHARTON� TO OPEN THE.pUBLIC HEARSNG
ON ZOA #80-OS BY WINFIELD DEVELOPMENTS,INC.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE pUHLIC HEARING
OPEN AT 8:33 P.M.
Mr. Boardman stated that page 18 of the agenda showed the layout of the
Paco Industrial Park located on University Avenue south of 73rd. When the plat
was first approved and zoned, the properties to the west, Lots 10-13, were
zoned heavy industrial, the properties located in the center were zoned light
industrial, and the properties along University Avenue were zoned commercial,
C-2. The corner property, Lot 1, Block 1, is current]y being developed as an
office structure.
Mr. Boardman stated the proposal from Winfield Developments,Inc., more closely
fit into a light industrial type of development. It is an office/warehouse
type of facility, possibly looking at showroom with storage space, one-story
type of facility, with truck loading areas. 5taff felt this would probably be
more closely related to the M-1 district and suggested that Winfield Development,
Inc., have this rezoned to an M-1 district.
Mr. Boardman stated the building frontage would be facing University Avenue.
The loading area would be along Commerce Circle. Within the proposal, there
will be berming with retaining walls for screening protection. It wil] be
landscaped along the street side of the screening. The landscaping will be
the same as Mr. Paschke has done with his office building to maintain the same
type of treatment all along the front.
Mr. Boardman stated water is being piped into the storm sewer system. All the
water has approval through the Rice Creek Watershed Distrrct and is being stored
in the community park area.
Mr. Harris asked if the petitioner would like to speak on this item.
Mr. Rob Taylor stated he was with Winfield Developments,Inc. He stated they
felt this was an exciting site for an office/warehouse type of facility. It
is their intention to establish, recognizing two things--the park to the south
of their property and the office building to the north. It is their intention
to take the end units of the building and establish office facilities facing
north and south at those points. On numerous occasions, they have discussed the
pros and cons of commercial development. It is their understanding that the
physical shape and configuration of their proposed building does comply with
the City's commercial rules and regulations; however, they wanted the flexi-
bility to allow light industrial uses into the development, rather than run
the risk of losing a potential tenant.
Mr. Taylor stated they did an extensive study of the area, they worked with
the City, they got information from local real estate agent, and with the
concerns the City Planning Department had with a long commercial development,
they came to the conclusion that this kind of development best fit the site.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 7, 1981 PAGE 7
Mr. Taylor stated they would be doing extensive landscaping along both
University and Corrrnerce Circle. They will be lowering the dock level of
the loading areas 48 inches. They also will be taking up the retaining wa71s,
holding back the berms an additional four feet, which wi77 adequately screen
the area from Commerce Circle. They are making provision for the ten foot
bicycle path easement. He stated their architect, Mr. Darrell Anderson,
was present to answer any technical questions the Commission might have.
Ms. Schnabel asked if Winfield Developments,Inc., owned the land, if they had
financing secured, and if they had commitments for potential tenants.
Mr. Taylor stated they have an option on the property from the developer of
the industria1 park, based on rezoning and a few other contingencies. At this
time, they have not secured financing. At this time, they do not have any
commitments for future tenants. Some of the tenants will be from expanding
existing businesses that are already their tenants. They have three buildings
under construction at this time southwest of Minneapolis, and they do not have
any tenants for them. It is not unusual for them to start construction on a
building without tenants lined up. Basically, that is the way they operate,
build a building, finance it, and then lease it out.
Mr. Paschke stated that when they planned the whole park, the Gity felt this
should be commercial property. He stated he went along with that and designed
Paco Industrial Park with the intention that this would all be commercial develop-
ment. He stated he did not agree with the proposal to change it to M-1 zoning.
If Winfield Developments,Inc., was looking in Fridley for property, there was a
lot of property just north of this property that was already zoned for light
industrial.
Mr. Paschke stated his main objectian was that the 800 ft. long building was
like putting a screen along University Avenue which was almost two blocks long.
He still felt that Lots 4, 5, and 6 were possibly a decent area for M-1 zoning,
but he still felt Lots 2 and 3 should remain commercially-zoned property. He
thought it was very unfair after he had gone in with the intention that it would
all be commercial, and then to rezone it to M-1.
Mr. Harris asked if the petitioner had any alternative plans to what was being
proposed.
Mr. Taylor stated their architect, Mr. Anderson, had gone over several different
schemes and configurations, and because of the shal7ow depth and the cost of 1and,
they felt the proposed plan was the best type of development because it did not
increase their site coverage, but did provide exposure onto University. They
feit it would have a very positive affect on the community. It is a large
building, but they have built large buildings before. They feel they can use
the size as an asset in terms of tenants.
Mr. Rick Martin stated they sincerely feel they can provide a nicer building
under industrial zoning, They have a lot more aesthetic control under
industrial, as tenants usually take better care of their space.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 7, 1981 PAGE 8
Mr. Paschke stated he had two main objections to the rezoning--the size of the
building and the length of the building. He would not object to that same
building going on Lots 4, 5, and 6.
MOTION BY MS. HUGN.ES, SSCONDED BY MS. SCHNABEL, TO CL0.SE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
ZOA #80-OS BY WSNFIELD DEVELOPMENTS, INC.
UPON A VOICE VOTE,�ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING
CLOSED RT 9:3I P.M.
Ms. Hughes stated it seemed that whole area is light industrial kind of usage.
If she looked at the city as a whole and what they are looking at in redevelop-
ment of Center City, she did not like the idea of a commercial strip there,
and she did not like the idea of encouraging commercial development in this spot.
She did not like the loading dock arrangement that is proposed on the property.
One problem she could see was how it would look from the new community park.
She thought the view from the park was not going to be the best. Was there good
rationale for having strip commercial development along there? Wouldn't it
detract from the Center City-type projects?
Ms. Schnabel stated she had a very hard time understanding the philosophy of
reviewing an entire plat one year ago and just six months ago approving a plat
which included commercial along University Avenue. Now, they are being asked to
rezone that strip. She had heard that there are enough commitments to make
Mr. Paschke's office building worthwhile as a commercial endeavor versus an M-1
district. She is not convinced that there is a stronger need for M-1 than there
is for existing commercial. Beyond this, it bothered her that the petitioner
has said they do not have financing secured, and that they have an option on the
property. If they give approval to the rezoning, and for some reason, the plans
fall through, the City wi11 be sitting with that .property rezoned to M-1. She
was not convinced the Planning Commission should go back on rezoning they had
done just six rrwnths ago, and she was not convinced there has been established
a need for more M-1 than commercial.
Mr. Oquist stated he felt the same way as Ms. Schnabel. They d3d approve this
plat just six months ago as commercial.
Mr. Harris stated that as he remembered and he had gone on record stating that
he felt commercial would 6e a natural extension of the industrial park, commercial
not being walk-in freight, but office-type business, as opposed to retail trade.
As recently as two months ago, at the City Council meeting regard9ng industriaa
revenue bonding on Mr. Paschke's office structure, he went on record stating
they felt the office structure was a natural extension of the industrial park
and that it would benefit the industrial park, as well as benefit the whole
city of Fridley. He did not think they had ever intended it to be retail trade,
walk-in freight, or strip commercial, but should be some type of office.
Mr. Boardman stated it has always been the plan of the Planning Department to
restrict strip comnercial. If it was the intent of the Planning Commission and
the intent of the City Council to have this office, then the City would have
PLANNING COM�ISSION MEETING, JANUARY 7, 1981 PAGE 9
zoned it an office zone. He stated he did not think they wanted retail trade
in that area, such as a McDonalds, Burger Chef, Perkins, etc., which they could
have with a cormnercial zone.
Mr. Harris stated his main objection was an 800 ft. long building.
Mr. Wharton stated he could not understand why the Commission was hung up on
zoning the property from one zone to another. They should be happy to rezone
it from one zone to another as long as the petitioner was willing to pay a
$250 fee for it. They were not wearing out property lines.
M02FON BY MS. SCNNABEL, SECONDED BY 1�2. TREUENFELS, TO RECOMME'ND TO CITY COUNCIL
DENIAL OF REZONING REQUEST, ZOA #SO-O5, BY WSNFIELD DEVfilAPMENTS� INC.
Ms. Schnabel stated the reason for this motion was because of her concern that
the petitioner has not secured any financing, a need has not been demonstrated
for this type of building, and no specific tenants have been lined up. She
would like to see these kin�s of things tied down before the Planning Comnission
approved any rezoning, and she was concerned about rezoning so soon after the
plat was rezoned, which she felt was, in effect, spot rezoning.
Ms. Hughes stated she could not see any real detriment to the proposed project.
This is as viable a proposal as they often get on any rezoning, special use
permits, and dozens of other things. There is the question of being stuck with
a rezoned property, except that she agreed with Mr. Boardman that this was the
most appropriate use for this property,unless it was zoned CR-1 or CR-2 limited
to just office space, and that would take a rezoning also. She stated she would
vote against this motion.
Mr. Oquist stated he also agreed with Mr. Boardman, that M-1 seemed the most
reasonable use for this parcel of property.
Mr. Harris stated his biggest problem was the 800 ft. long building. He thought
if the building had a break in it, he would feel more comfortable with it.
(Mr. Wharton left the meeting at 10:10 p.m.)
UPON A i�O2CE VOTE� HARRSS AND SCHNABEL VOTING AYE� TREUENFELS� OQUIST� AND
HUGHES VOTING NAY, CHASRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION FAILED 3-2.
MOTION BY MS. HUGHES� SECONDED BY MR, OQUIST, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
�1PPROVAL OF REZONING REQUEST, ZOA #80-05, BY WINFSELD DEVEIAPMENT5, INC.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, HUGHSS AND OQUIST VOTING AYE, HARRIS, TREUENFELS, AND
SCHNAB&L UOTING NAY, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARfiD THE MOTION FAILED 3-2.
Mr. Harris asked if there was some way this building could have some division
in it so that it was not one solid front, that the area towards the north be
left as a C-type zoning and that the southern 2-4 lots be left as M-1 type
zoning with a physical separation of sane feet of green area between the two
buildings.
Mr. Taylor stated they were willing to work with their architect to redraw the
site plan.
PLANNING COMMISSI�N MEETING, JANUARY 7, 1981 PAGE 10
MLYfION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. TREUENFELS, TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON
RE'ZONING REQUEST, ZOA #80-05, BY WSNFIELD DEVEZAPMENTS, INC.: TO REZONE LOT 2
EXCEPT TXE NORTHERLY 50 FEET, AND LOTS 3, 4, 5$N�]},6 INCLUSIVE, BLOCK 1, PACO
INDUSTRIAL PRRK, FROM C-2 (GENERAL BUSINESS AREAS) TO M-1 (LIGHT INDUSTRIAL
AREASJ TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 98,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING TO BE USED
FOR OFFICE AND OFFSCE WAREHOUSE, LSGHT MANUF'RCTURING AND SERVICE� THE SAME BEINC
7151-7251 COMMERCE CIRCLE EAST� AND T/J REQUEST CITY COUNCIL TO SET A PUBLIC
HEARING FOR ZOA j�80-05 FOR FEBRUARY -.9� 2981.
UPQN A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAPJ AARRIS DSCLARED THE MOTION CARRSED
UNANIMOUSLY.
4. CONTINUED: CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED NOISE OR�INANCE
MOTSON BY MS. HUGHES, SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST, TO CONTINUE THE CON5IDE'RATION OF
A PROPOSED NOISE ORDINANCE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
5: CONTINUED: PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY
CODE, ENE Y KN N S E I
MOTION BY MR. OQUI5T, SECONDED BY MS. SCHNABEL, TO CONTINUE THE AMENDMENT TD
CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE.
UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED 2HE MOTION CARRIED
UNRNIMOUSLY. �
6. RECEIVE DECEMBER 9, 1980, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION 8Y MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MR. TREUENFELS� TO RECEIVE THE DEC. 9� 1980�
COMMUNSTY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES.
Mr. Oquist restated the concern expressed by Ms. Gustafson and the other
comnission members about the purpose of the comnission.
Mr. Boardman stated he has discussed this issue with his staff. Mary Cayan,
staff inember to the Human Resources Comnission and the Energy Commission, is
sending out a letter to each commission discussing what has been accomplished
in 1980 and, for the new year, laying out some possible goals for the cottmission
to accomplish. He stated he did not like a correnission relying only on staff
to bring items before them. It sometimes becomes a burden for staff to search
for items to bring before the comnissions. Staff has too heavy a workload to
act as coordinator for the commissions. He stated he did not fee1 it was
Staff's job to be the coordinator of a correnission. Staff's job is to provide
and supply information to the commission and help the comnission accomplish
whatever tasks that commission is trying to do. Staff needs direction from
the commission for goals, etc.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 7, 198] PAGE 11
Mr. Boardman stated the Co�nunity Qevelopment Commission may want to respond to
some of the things he just stated.
Mr. Boardman also stated that the question of whether the Cort�nunity Development
Commission has a role or a function should be considered by both the Community
Development Commission and the Planning Commission.
Mr. Harris suggested that the Community Development Commission talk about their
role at their next meeting.
Mr. Boardman stated there was a definite need to redefine the goals of the
Community Development Commission.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
7. RECEIVE DECEMBER 10, 1980, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY M3. XUGHES, SECONDED BY MR. TREUENFELS, TO RECEIVE TXE DEC. 10, 1980,
PARK5 & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMRN HARRSS DECLRRED THE MOTIDN CARRIED
8. RECEIVE DEC. 11, 1980, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. TRE'UENFELS� SECONDED BY MS. SCHNABEL� TO RECEIVE THE DEC. 1Z� 19B0,
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNRNSMOUSLY.
9. RECEIVE DECEMBER 16, 1980, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION 8Y MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MR. TREUENFELS� TO RECEIVE THB DEC. I6� I980,
ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYfi� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED TXE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
lp. RECEIVE DECEMBER 16, 1980, ENVIRONMENTAL 4UALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTSON BY MR. OQUISS, SECONDED BY MS. SCHNABEL, TO RECEIPE THE DEC. 16, 1980,
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES.
Regarding the permit application for proposed dredging of the Mississippi River,
Mr. Harris stated that Rimanco, Inc., should take a look at the river sand they
will be dredging for fill as this material just does not compact well.
Mr. Boardman stated that if Mr. Harris has a concern with the compaction of
the fill, he may want to pass this recommendation on to the State Highway
Department.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIN6, JANUARY 7, 1981 PAGE 12
UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTINC AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARfiD THE MOTION CRRRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
11. OTHER BUSINESS:
A. Proposed Amendments to Local Comprehensive Plans
Mr. Boardman stated Metropolitan Council is having a public hearing
on the amendment process. They have gone through a whole series of
meetings and are making some revisions to their arr�endment process
to the comprehensive plan. That meeting will be on Jan. 22 at 2:00 p.m.
at Metropolitan Council. At this point in time, the City is pretty
much supporting the position taken by the League of Municipalities.
That position isirat the city has some choice as to what goes to
Metropolitan Council, and that the process be in conjunction with
hearing processes that are already or primarily set up with the cities.
B. Letter from Metropolitan Council re: Choosing Sewage, Solid, and
�-a�-�:_..— �;�,._
Mr. Harris stated there is going to be a meeting regarding this
at Coon Rapids City Hall on Jan. 29, at 7:30 p.m. He felt it was
very important that the City of Fridley be represented at this meetrng.
MOTION BY MS. SCHNABEL, 5ECONDED BY MR. TRfiUENFELS, TO RE'COMM&'ND TO
CITY COUNCIL THAT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY OF FRIDLEY BE
APPOINTED TO ATTEND THIS MEETING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN H�SRRIS DECLRRED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. TREUSNFELS, SECONDSD BY MS. SCHNABEL� TO AATOURN THE MEETING.
I1PON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE JANUARY 7� 298Z,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AWOURNED AT 21:59 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary
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