PL 12/09/1981 - 6766PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
City of Fridley
AGENDA
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 9, 1981
APPROVE.�PLANNI��G COMMISSION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 18, 1981
1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF
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7:30 P.M.
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PLAT 7: For Darrel Farr Corporation, being a replat ot ttiocKS i,
3, 4 and 5, and Lot 1, Block 10, Innsbruck North Townhouses Plat
5, because the construction didn't follow the lot lines as platted,
generally located Yorth of I.694 between West Bavarian Pass and,,/
West Brenner Pass N.E. (,{J;�G��2«�^ �/J�g/
2. DISCUSSION OF INTE4iT 70 CREATE A CONVERSION CONDOMIUM AT 1601 NORTH 12 - 13
INNSBRUCK DRIVE
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SIGN 14 - 15
4, RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: NOUEMBER 5, 1981
5. RECEIVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 10,
1981
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UTHORITY MINUTES:
7. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 17, 1981
8. RECEIVE ENUIRONMENTAL
9. RECEIVE
10. OTHER BUSINESS:
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ADJOURNMENT:
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING C�MMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 18, 1981
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Harris called the November 18, 1981, Planning Commission meeting to
order at 7:33 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present:
Members Absent:
athers Present
Mr. Harris, Mr. Oquist, Mr. Kondrick, Ms
Ms. Gabel, Mr. Svanda
Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 4 1981, PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MINUTES:
van Dan, Mr. Saba
MOTION BY MR. OQUZST� SBCONDED BY hIlZ. SABA� TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 9� 1981�
PLANNING COMMISSIDN MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE, CXAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTZON CARRIED
UNANSMOUSLY.
1. NORTH AREA REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND TAX INCREMENT PLAN:
Mr. Boardman stated that by law the Planning Commission is required to review
redevelopment plans, but not necessarily tax increment plans. However, he had
submitted both plans to the Planning Commission so they could review both the
plans at the same time. He stated that at the end of his presentation, he would
like the Planning Commission to take an action on the Redevelopment Plan saying
the plan is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan of the City of Fridley.
Mr. Boardman outlined the boundaries of the redevelopment district. He stated
— the reason for setting up the district is because they can classify it as blighted
due to soil conditions. That is one of the alternatives under Minnesota State
Statutes, Chapter 462. They have soil borings in a lot of the area that shows up
to 25-30 ft. of peat. The land is un6uildable in that sense, because in order to
build, a developer either has to put down pilings for construction or clear out
the peat. He stated they have to show the Housing & Redevelopment Authority and
the City Council that they feel there is not going to be any more development in
this area due to soil conditicns without some assistance from the City of Fridley.
So, they are looking at the establishment of a tax increment district in order
to provide that assistance,
Mr. Boardman stated that a tax increment district allows the City to take the
district as it is and set up the base assessed value. That base assessed value
is what determines the taxes that go to the County, the school district, and the
City. The school district, the County, and the City will always get taxes based
on that base over the lifetime of the district. The redevelopment district can
have a lifetime of up to 25 years.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 18, 1981 PAGE 2
Mr. Boardman stated that the taxes that are generated from development or from
an increase due to inflation go directly to the HRA. The HRA can sell general
obligation bonds based on the tax increment that is being developed. It is a
very useful tool when there are these types of situations.
Mr. Boardman stated another problem they have in this redevelopment area is drainage.
This is one of the few remaining areas where they can try to control the drainage
problem, In this area, they have two drainage systems--Stoneybrook and Springbrook.
They have a considerable problem downstream of Stoneybrook, and they are going to
need drainage retention in this area to control the amount of downstream run-off.
They can utilize the tax increment monies to help set up a drainage plan and system
in this area.
Mr. Boardman stated that one thing that is good about the tax increment district
is that it allows them the flexibility to do something in these areas. In setting
up a redevelopment district and tax increment district, there are findings that
have to be made by the State Legislature. In order to establish this area as a
tax increment district, it has to meet a legislative test as laid out in Chapter 273
of the Minnesota State Statutes:
"The land is not predominately occupied by buildings,streets, utilities,
or other improvements, but at least 80 percent of the total acreage of
such land has a fair Market Value upon inclusion in the Redevelopment
District, which when added to the estimated cost of preparing the land
for use, including utilities, if any, exceeds its anticipated fair market
value after completion of said preparation."
Mr. Boardman stated that if the value of that land at the completion is $1.70/sq. ft.,
then if by adding the present land cost with all the utilities, assessments, land
preparation costs, it exceeds that $1.70/sq. ft., then there will be problems in
developing this area. It is over what the market will bear on the land and meets
the test of the State Legislature.
Mr. Boardman stated he and the engineering staff have reviewed the land and feel
` that most of the properties within the district still have peat and bad soil
conditions and will need some kind of assistance in the development of the district.
They came up with 87.6% of the properties that fall within this classification.
That meets the legislative test which is 80% of the district,
Mr. Boardman stated one thing they look at is how this district fits into the City's
Comprehensive Plan. That plan was approved by the Planning Corranission and City
Council and sent on to Metropolitan Council, and it does show this as a redevelop-
ment area in the 1990 Land Use Plan, so it is consistent with the comprehensive
planning of the City.
Mr. Boardman stated another thing they look at in setting up a tax increment
district (there are now three districts in the City) is the overall impact to
the City of the three districts, as well as the overall impact to the County.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 18, 1981 PAGE 3
Mr. Boardman stated the overall assessed value to the City is .86%. Its effect
to the County is less than that at 18%. 7he overall effect of al� three districts
on the County is .6% and the overall effect of all three districts on the City is
2.4%.
Mr. Boardman stated he has presented this plan to the County Board. The County
Board does not have power for approval, but the City does make them aware of what
is happening. The County Board did not have any negative feelings on the plan.
He stated he did inform all the school districts in fridley and offered to appear
before the school boards and make a presentation, but he did not receive any
response from any of the school districts.
Mr. Harris stated they may have to look at some alternative types of construction
in some of these areas because of the various soil conditions.
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO CONCUR WITH THE NORTH AREA
REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLAN TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRNAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRSED
UNRNIMOUSLY.
MOTZON BY MS. VAN DAN� SECONDED BY MR. SABR� TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 2-2982�
"A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSZON OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY� FZNDING THE
FRIDLEY HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT RUTHORITY`S NORTH AREA REDEVSLOPMENT PLAN IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY".
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTINC AYE� CHAIRNAN HARRIS DECLARED THE M02ION CRRRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
2. RECEIVE THE OCTOBER 22 1981, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AU7HORITY MINUTES:
MOTZON BY MR. OQUIST� SECOND�D HY MR. SABA� TO RECEIVE THE OCTOBER 22, 1981.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOU5LY.
3. RECEIVE TNE OCTOBER 27, 1981, ENER6Y COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY HII2. SRBA� SECONDED BY Fg2. KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE THE OCTOBER 27� I982.
ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES.
Mr. Saba noted the motion on page 4 in which the Energy Corimission was recor�nending
that the City Council direct City Staff to do a feasibility study on the removal
of all stop signs installed for the purpose of controlling traffic speed and
consider the replacement of those stop signs with 25 m.p.h. speed zone signs. He
stated he would like the Planning Commission to concur with that motion.
?LANNING COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 78 1981 PAGE 4
MOTION BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN, TD CONCUR WITH THE ENERGY COMMZSSION
AND TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THRT CITY COUNCSL DIRECT CITY STAFF TO DO A
FEASIBILITY STUDY ON THE REMOVAL OF ALL STOP SIGNS INSTRLLED FOR THE PURPOSE OF
CONTROLLING TRAFFIC SPEED AND THE REPLACEMENT OF THOSE STOP SIGNS WITH 25 M.P.H.
SPEED ZONE SIGNS FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENERGY CONSERVATION.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRhAN HARRSS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRSED
UNRNIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR, OQUIST, SECONDSD BY h112. SRBR, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON R VOICE
VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE NOVEMBER .IB� 198I� PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETZNG RDJOURNED AT 8:45 P.M,
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
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RECORDING SECRETARY
CITY Of FRIDLEY
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION
MEETING
NOVEMBER 5, 7987
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson van Dan called the November 5, 1987, Human Resources Commission
meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. .
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Mary van Dan, Peter Treuenfels, Jayne Noble, Lynn Boergerhoff
Members Absent: Brian Goodspeed
Others Present: Mary Cayan, Human Resources Assistant
Barbara Terpstra, IYDP Comnittee Co-Chairperson
Frances van Dan, 6342 Baker St. N.E.
APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 1, 1981, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. NOBLE� SECONDED BY .�II2. TREUENFELS� TO APPROVE THE OCTOBER 1� 1981�
XUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES RS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRPERSON VAN DAN DECLARh'D THE MOTION
CARRSED UNRNSMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION BY MR. TRfi'UENFELS� SECONDSD BY MR. BOERGERHOFF� TO MOVE ITEM N5� "CITY
AFFIRh1ATNE ACTION PLAN - DISCUSSZON", TO ITEM Ii2 ON THE RGENDA.
UPON A�VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON VAN DAN DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. INTERNATIONAL YEAR OF DISABLED PERSONS - UPDATE:
Ms. 7erpstra stated they did get acknowledgement from Washington D.C. as an
official "IYDP Corrmunity Partner", and that certificate will be presented to
the City Council on November 23. At 6:OOp.m. on November 23, before the City
Council meeting, the IYDP Committee is going to have a recognition meeting at
the Village Green Community Roam for those people who have given their time and
effort in the International Year of Disabled Persons. She stated they are sending
out approximately 80 invitations to civic organizations, the library, churches,
and people involved with IYDP, including the Human Resources Corrqniss�on, City
Council, the Planning Department, and the Parks & Recreation Department. Awards
will be given to about 20 people or organizations.
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 5, 1981 PAGE 2
Ms. Terpstra stated the IYDP Committee has also gotten something going on trans-
portation in Fridley. They have a shopping day once a week on Wednesday from
2:D0-4:00 p.m, People who live outside Village Green must call the Parks &
Recreation Department two days in advance for a pick-up with the Fridley Lions
Club Bus. Once a month they go to Target and three times a month they go to
Holiday Village. She stated the Lions Club has offered to buy carts that hook
onto wheelchairs. There are 4-5 people in wheelchairs who go shopping every
week. Holiday Uillage has purchased two of these shopping carts. As of now,
Target has not purchased any. She stated Holiday Village has been very kind.
They give a 10� discount on over-the-counter drugs and a 15% discount on pre-
scriptions. They also always have sanething special for the seniors on the day
they come shopping,and they always help get the packages on the bus. Ms. Terpstra
stated there are approximately 25-40 people who go on these shopping trips, so
they usually have to make two trips.
Ms. van Dan stated that transportation has been something the
concerned about for a long time and has never gotten off the
to Ms. Terpstra and Mr. Boergerhoff, it is now being done.
Commission has been
ground. Now, thanks
Mr. Boergerhoff stated that, regarding the questionnaires, they are waiting to
hear the results from Health Central who has volunteered their computers and
staff time to handle the survey results in exchange for Health Central having
access to whatever information comes out of the survey.
Ms. Terpstra stated that 200 invitations were sent out in Anoka County for an
Employment Fair, but there were only four responses, three of which were from
Fridley--Onan, FMC, and Medtronic. The Employment Fair was cancelled because
of poor response.
Ms. van Dan stated the International Year of Disabled Persons ends in December,
and the IYDP Committee has become quite an independent functioning group. When
the Committee breaks off fran the Human Resources Commission, it should
give some thought to whether it would like to be a totally ihdependent group.
The Comnittee would sti11 heve a liaison with the Co�nission through
Mr. Boergerhoff.
MOTION BY MR. TREUfiNFELS� SECONDED BY .�2. BOERGERHOFF� TO RECEIVE THE OCT. 12� 2981,
IYDP COMMITTEE MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON VAN DAN DECLAF2ED THE MOTION
CARRIfiD UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. van Dan thanked Ms. Terpstra for the report.
2. CITY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PLAN - DISCUSSION:
Ms, van Dan stated that included in the agenda packet was a memo from the
Charter Canmission directed to the Numan Resources Comnission requesting
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 5 1981 PAGE 3
written response on the draft of a proposed affirmative action statement in the
City Charter. The Charter Commission is requesting this response before their
November 10 meeting.
Ms. van Dan stated that Mr. Treuenfels is a member of the Charter Comnission and
Mr. van 6an is a7so representing the Charter Comnission.
Mr. Treuenfels stated that at the last Charter Commission meeting, they had a
presentation from Mr. van Dan, who gave the Charter Commission a draft of the
proposed Affirmative Action Statement. At that time, Mr. Treuenfels stated he
felt it was something the Human Resources Cor�nission should also look and
discuss before the Nov. 10 Charter Commission meeting. He had asked Mr. van Dan
to attend the Human Resources Comnission meeting so the Commission could discuss
what they would like to do about the affirmative action proposal.
Mr. Treuenfels stated he felt affirmative action is something that should be
looked at. He stated he is leaning more toward the equality of opportunity,
rather than affirmative action, but would have no objection to affirmative action.
He stated he has sorr� misgivings about the draft. Even though it is supposed
to be kind of a preamble to the City Charter, it does give definite direction
to the City. There seems to be quite a requirement on the City administration,
possibly with legal consequences. He wondered if Mr. van Dan would consider
rewording the affirmative action statement in terms more of a statement of
attitude and feeling of how they wa�t the question of equal opportunity or
affirmative action hand7ed in the City of Fridley, rather than obliging either
the City Council or any other city agency to do anything in particular--more a
statement of belief than a call to action.
Mr. van Dan stated this was his attempt at a draft, and he agreed it did need
rewording. He stated he had started out with an equal opportunity statement,
but that is too narrow because it only reflects the public employment people--
people being employed by the City of Fridley. The City does have an Affirmative
Action Ordinance, but the mistake is that it is titled, "the Affirmative Action
Ordinance", and deals with equal employment opportunity. The two should be
separated--the equal employment opportunity ordinance should be refined and
amplified, making it more inclusive and more mandatory on the City, because, as
taxpayers, we employ our own people to serve us in the administrative branch of
government. It should be made available to more people or wider groups, especially
those who are numerically under-represented in our society.
Mr. van Dan stated that as far as affirmative action, he agreed that it is a
philosophy and it is an attitude. He stated there should be two things. In a
preamble, a philosophy should be stressed; however, somewhere they should have
more to it than just a philosophy because there should be some teeth into it,
to put a liability on the city that it should be done.
Mr. Treuenfels stated that if Mr, van Dan was concerned about employment by
the City of Fridley, then a better way might be to stress it to the City Council
and press for an ordinance in that direction.
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 5'1981 PAGE 4
Mr. van Dan stated it would be very helpful if the Human Resources Commission
would go on record and adopt the resolution, at least in theory, supporting the
efforts ta add a statement of philosophy delineating affirmative action as a
preamble to the City Charter.
Ms. Noble stated she liked what Mr. van Dan was suggesting and though� it shouid
be in the City Charter.
Ms, van Dan stated that one of the Commission's objectives is to review the
Affirmative Action Program for the City of Fridley, One of the actions is
to prepare a report to the City Council, so this is within the Commission's
scope.
Mr. Treuenfels stated he fe7t very strongly that a statement of philosophy as a
preamble wouid be very desirable in the City Charter. He also felt they should
definitely relay to the Charter Commission that the Human Resources Commission
is very much interested and would like to have some input on the discussion of
the preamble. He would like to see the two commissions work jointly on it.
Mr. Treuenfels stated it was also his feeling that there are sane matters that
are better left to city ordinances, those that affect, for example, employment
by the City. However, something that has not yet been mentioned is the equal
access of citizens to the political process. Maybe the Commission should pass
a resolution that states that precinct caucuses, counci7 meetings. political
organizations, etc., should be held in buildings that are accessible to the
handicapped.
Mr. Treuenfels stated that as far as the City Charter is concerned, he would
Tike to suggest that the Human Resources Cottmission wholeheartedly support a
statement of philosophy contained in a preamble to the City Charter. and that
the Canmission would tike to work with the Charter Commission in formulating this
statement.
Mr. Boergerhoff stated he was not very well informed on this issue, but he had
no objections to the Human Resources Commission supporting the recommendations
as presented by Mr. Treuenfels.
Ms, van Dan stated she had no objections either. It wou7d appear to her that
by prefacing the City Charter with a statement assuring the philosophy of affirma-
tive action, they are thereby guaranteeing farther along in the Charter that the
areas discussed will meet that standard and they do not have to develop the
actual technical procedure. She agreed that should go under ordinance. She
would also like to see the Human Resources Comnission have input into that and
maybe help develop sane guidelines and programs in assuring compliance with
this as a philosophy.
MOTSON BY MR. TREUENFEIS� SECONDED BY MR. BOSRGERHOFF� THAT THE HUMAN RESOURCES
COMMZSSION SUPPORT THE CONCEPT-OF A STATEMSNT OF PHILOSOPHY IN THE PREAMBLE TO
THE CITY CHARTER ON FIUMAN RIGHTS RND.THE HARMONIOUS LIVING TOGETHER OF RLL
GROUPS OF PEOPL& IN THE CITY OF FRIDLEY. FDRTHSRMORE� THE HUMAN RESOURCES
COMMISSION RESPSCTFULLY SUGGESTS THAT THEY PARTICIPATE WITH THE CHARTER COMMISSION
IN WORKZNG OUT TNfi WORDING OF SUCH A STATEMENT OF PXILASOPHY.
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 5 1981 PAGE 5
UPON A VOICE VOTfi� ALL VOTING AYE, CXAZRPERSON VAN DAN DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. FORMATION OF A YOUTH 6ROUP:
MOTION BY MR. TREUENfELS� SfiCONDED BY MR. BOSRGSRXOFF� TO CONSSNUE THIS STEM
AT THE NEXT MfiETING.
UPON A VOSC& VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CXAIRPERSON VAN DAN DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. WORKPLAN: DISCUSSION OF ACCESSIBILITY AND DAY CARE OBJECTIVES
Ms. Noble stated she was unable to complete her outline on "Child/Day Care
Centers". She stated she would prepare it and get it to Ms. Cayan before
the next meeting.
Mr. Boergerhoff presented his outline on "Accessibility".
MOTZON BY MR. TREUENFELS, SECONDED BY MS, NOBLfi', TO RECEIVE THE OUTLINE ON
"ACCESSIBILITY"� AN OBJECTIVE UNDER THE "HUMAN SERVICES" GOAL, PREPRRED BY
MR. BOERGERHOFF� AS PART OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSZON'S WORKPLAN,
UPON A VOICE VOTfi, ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRPERSON VAN DRN DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. �
Mr. Treuenfels stated that as a commission of the City of Fridley, they have
the right and also the obligation to inspect public city buildings for accessi-
bility, because they do want to advise the City Administration on possible non-
compliance with state law. In other areas where city ordinances are in effect,
the Human Resources Cormnission can make recomnendations, but have no authoriza-
tion to go beyond making suggestions and recommendations. He felt accessibility
in buildings where voter registration, precinct caucuses, etc „ are held is
very important.
Ms. van Dan stated she saw it as the Commission's role to make recommendations
or express cancerns on these things.
Ms. Noble asked what happened to the accessibility surveys the Commission members
had done on the city buildings.
Ms. Cayan stated she had prepared a sumnary report on what needed to be changed
in the Civic Center. That memo has gone on to the staff person who is responsi-
ble for working these changes into the city budget, but as of now, it has gone
nowhere. Part of the reasons is because there is discussion about changes in
regulations and also because of possible modifications to the Civic Center in
conjunction with the Center City redevelopment.
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 5 1981 PAGE 6
Ms. Noble stated she did the accessible survey of the municipal liquor store,
and as of yet, no handicapped parking signs have been put up, including the
painting of the handicapped parking symbol.
MOTION BY MR. TREUENFELS� SfiCOND&D BY MS. NOBLE� THAT TXE HUMAN RESOURCES
COMMISSION, CONCERNED WITH TXE WELFARE OF THE PSOPLE OF FRIDLEY, INCLUDING THE
HRi7,ICAPPbD, WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT TXE CITY STRFF PERSON MEET WITX REPRE-
SENTATIVES OF TXE XUMAN RESOURCfiS COMMISSION TO DISCUSS CERTAIN URGENTLY NEEDED
MODIFICATIONS TO PUBLIC CITY BUILDINGS AND DISCUSS THE NEfiD AND FLEXIBILITY OF
THOSE CHANGES. ALSO� THE XUMAN RESOURCES COMMSSSION STRONGLY RECOMMENAS THAT
TAE AANDICRPPED PARKING SIGNS BE PAINTED AT'•THE MUNZCIPAL LIQUOR STORE.
Ms. Cayan stated that the Community Development Commission had a public meeting
to discuss the use of community development block grant funds, and there were
handicapped persons who had difficulty attending the meeting because of the
inaccessibility to the lower level of City Hall.
Ms, van Dan stated she liked Mr, 7reuenfels' motion as there are things that
can be done at a lo�! cost..
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON VAN DAN DECLARED THE MOTIDN
CARRIED UNANIMDUSLY. �
5. PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS ON WORKPLAN PR08RESS:
Ms. van Dan stated she thought the Planning Commission was quite impressed that
there was so much work done on the Human Resources Comnission's workplan, and
that it was presented in such a formal, well organized, and complete program.
One of the commissioners felt that every group should sit down and do it exactly
the same way as it gives the cortmission a definite, workable plan that goes to
City Council and tells the City Council what needs to 6e done and how the
commission plans to accomplish it. Another comnent was that i� was a lot of
work, and it will not make any difference anyway because na one is going to
listen to the recommendations and suggestions.
Ms. van Dan stated that since each of the commissions has had the topic of
"comnunications", Mr. Boardman presented a Co�nunications Plan, which was put
together by Mary Cayan. The plan contains a three-pronged approach on how to
improve corr�nunications with the comnissions, City Council, and the general
public. Mr. Boardman asked the Planning Commission to review the plan and
decide whether the Planning Commission wants to activate it at the Planning
Commission level or at the level of each of the commissions.
Ms. Van Dan stated they might Nant to discuss this Communications Plan at their
next meeting.
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMI55ION MEETING NOVEMBER 5 1981 PAGE 7
6. OTHER BUSINESS:
Ms. Cayan stated the deadline for submission of articles in the winter city
newsletter is Nov. 13. Under the "Comnunications" goal, the Cortonission has
an action item of reporting in the city newsletter.
Ms. van Dan stated she would put together a report for the newsletter.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. TREUENFSLS� SECONDED 8Y MS. NOBLE, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON
A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSQN VRN DRN DEC.LARED THE NOVEMBER 5, 1981,
HUMAN RESOURCfi'S COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:31 P.M.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
�
Ly Saba
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
MEETING
NOVEMBER 10, 7981
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Oquist called the November 10, 1981, Community Development
Commission meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: LeRoy Oquist, Kenneth Vos, A1 Gabel, Connie Modig
Members Absent
Others Present
Sharon Gustafson
Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Mary Cayan, Human Services Assistant
APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 13, 1981, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. GABEL� SECONDSD BY MS. MODIG� TO APPROVE THE OCTOBER 13� 1981,
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHRIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. COMMUN
BLOCK GRANT -
TO FORMULATE
Mr. Boardman stated that after getting the feedback from the Community Develop-
ment Commission on project recommendations, he also got feedback from other city
department heads, the City Manager, as weli as other members of the Planning
staff. He stated he went through the projects and ranked them "a", "b", or "c",
based on HUD's criteria and the competition as far as the justification for
projects. He stated "a" was the highest ranking and probably the easiest to
justify and "b" and "c" were lower ranking. With that ranking in mind, he,
Mary Cayan, and John Flora met with the City Manager and went ihrough all the
projects listed on the sheet titled, "FY '82 CDBG Project Ideas", which included
all the projects submitted by the Community Development Commission. From that
list, they came up with the list on the sheet titled, "Priority fY '82 CDBG
Project Ideas", of which five projects were from the Community Development
Commission, one project was from the department heads, and five projects were
classified as "additional", primarily thought up by the Planning Department.
Mr. Boardman stated that based on discussions with the City Manager and the
Anoka County Corr�nunity Development Block Grant Consultant, Mr. �ean Doyscher,
Mr. Boardman went through all the projects and came up with the "Staff Recomnenda-
tions" on the most feasible projects and probably the easiest to justify.
COh�1UNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 10, 1981 PAGE 2
Mr. Boardman stated the first three projects Staff would recommend to go ahead
with are:
1. Rehab funds for handicap retrofit - single family
2. Energy improvements - low and moderate income (Mr. Boardman stated
they are primarily looking at energy improvements for the elderly,
rather than low and moderate income at this time.)
3. Moore Lake District - housing development (Mr. Boardman stated this
would be an elderly project. They would use the CDBG funds for the
acquisition of land for write-down for an elderly project.)
Mr. Boardman stated Staff was also recommending two projects as "back-up"
projects:
1. Economic Deve�opment Corporation
2. Acquisition of blighted housing - Moore Lake District
Mr. Boardman stated he felt they could easily put the first three projects
together with justification, and that was why Staff was recommending these
three projects to the Community Development Commission.
Mr. Boardman stated they will have approximately $230,000 in CDBG funds, of
which the first two projects would probably be about $80,0�0 and #3 wou7d be
approximately $740-150,000. For projects #1 and #2, they would turn the
operation of the programs over to the Anoka County CAP Agency since that agency
is already an entity geared up for these types of programs.
MOTION BY DR. VOS, SECONDED BY h4Z. GABEL, TO APPROVE TXE FOLLOWING TXREE
PROJECTS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AS THE ANOXA COUNTY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
BLOCK GRANT I982 PROJECTS:
1. REHAB FUNAS FOR HANDICAP RETROFIT - SINGLE FRMILY
2, ENERGY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE ELDERLY
3. MOORE LAKE DISTRZCT - fiLDERLY XOUSING DEVEIAPMENT
UPON R VOICfi VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. ANOKA COUNTY COMMUNITY HOUSING R€SOURCE BOARD - REPORT:
Ms. Cayan stated that since the last Comnission meeting, the Anoka County Corimnunity
Housing Resource Board has had three meetings. She has attended two meetings,
and Ms. Gustafson has attended all three.
Ms. Cayan stated the county resource boards have 6een around for a long time,
but they have not been very visible. The interest has kind of lagged, because
they are volunteer boards. She stated there has been a resurgence of interest
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 10, 1981 PAGE 3
in the metropolitan area, because there are federal grant monies available, up
to $25,000, for CHRB's (Community Housing Resource Board). Because of that,
the boards have reorganized. Currently there are four boards in existence in
this area: Anoka County, Dakota County, Minneapolis, and St. Paul.
Ms. Cayan stated the purpose of the CHRB's has been to promote fair housing
and to assist minority populations against discriminatory situations in housing.
They assist these persons in knowing what their rights are and following through
on their rights if they have been discriminated against. The boards put on
training seminars for realtors and training seminars for people working in the
housing business. One of their functions is to monitor the Anoka County Board
of Realtors to make sure the Board of Realtors is complying with comnitments
and obligations to non-discriminatory housing.
Ms. Cayan stated that because of the fact that there will be some funding, the
boards are organizing a little more formatly, to the point where they are out-
lining a proposal for funding. She gave the Commission members a copy of the
"Proposal for Funding for the Anoka County Comnunity Housing Resource Board".
She stated HUD has not come through with the final regu7ations, but as soon as
the regulations are published in the Federal Register, the CHRB's have 45 days to
apply.
Ms. Cayan stated the main thing that has happened so far is that the four existing
CHRB's have pretty much decided to go with an organization called the "Community
Planning Organization" out of St. Paul. As a volunteer organization, the CHRB's
cannot receive HUD monies; the monies must go to an agency that is incorporated,
tfiat is auditable, and that has a very formalized structure. So, the four CHRB's
are looking at turning all the grant monies over to the Community Planning
Organization, who in turn will serve as the auditable body. It will provide
staff services and will also perform the coordination type of function among the
four groups.
MOTION BY DR. VOS� SECONDED 8Y ilR. GABEL, TO RECEIVE THE REPORT FROM MS. CAYAN
ON THE ANOKA COUNTY COMMUNITY HOUSING RESOURCE BOARD.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECI.ARED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. GABEL� SECONDED BY DR. VOS� TO ADJDURN THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE NOVEMBER I0� I981,
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION ME&TING ADJOURNED RT 8:28 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
ynn "Saba
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MEETING
NOVEMBER 12, 1981
CALL TO aRDER:
Chairperson Commers called the November 12, 1981, Housing & Redevelopment
Authority meeting to order at 7:38 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Larry Commers, Russel Houck, Elmars Prieditis,
Carolyn Svendsen, Duane Prairie
Members Absent: None
�thers Present: �errold Boardman, City Planner
Nasim Qureshi, City Manager
Dennis Schneider, City Councilman
Bob Barnette, City Councilman-at-Large
Mayor Bill Nee
Virgil Herrick, City Attorney
Ed Har�nernik, �ouncilman-elect
Jerry Remmen, Contract Development Corporation
Cheryl Moses-Martin, City Councilo�oman
APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 22, 1981, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR, HDUCK, SECONDED BY MS, SVENDSEN, TO APPROVE THE OCTOBER 22, 198I,
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MTNUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHRIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. CENTER CITY PROJECT
A. Retail Center - Pro-forma Report from Develooer on Breakdown of Cost
Mr. Comners stated the memo talks about a meeting attended by
Nasim Qureshi, City Manager, Sid Inman, Jerry Remmen, and Mr. Boardman
on November 3. Attached to the memo is a cost analysis, operating
projection, net revenue, and a financial recap on the project. He
asked Mr. Boardman to review the memo with the HRA, especially with
respect to the bonding limitations they will be facing.
Mr. Boardman stated there are several issues they are faced with right
now. Because of the high amount of present assessed value on the
retail center, no matter what they do, it probably will not generate
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, NOVEMBER 12, 1981 PAGE 2
enough taxes with increased market value to pay for the total district;
and, therefore, there is going to have to be borrowing back and forth
between the p,rojects. One thing they have been looking at is they
need to get a purchase price of at least 50% of the value of that
property, and they have estimated that at $600,b00. They a7so feel
that with the development proposed in this package, they would be able
to bond somewhere in the neighborhood of $600,000 if they go with a
straight interest with no increase due to inflation. If they start
putting in a 3-4% inflation factor, then they are talking about anywhere
from $700-750,000 in bonding capabilities.
Mr. Commers asked what was anticipated as the purchase price on this
property. .�,A
Mr. Boardman stated they feel they have a total acquisition cost of
approximately $2,400,000, this price includes all of the properties,
the hardware store, and Standard Oil.
Mr. Commers asked what other issues wilT they be faced with, other than
the bonding?
Mr. Boardman stated another issue is how are they going to handle the
actual sale of the property? In his pro-forma, the developer has shown
he is in a money situation where he would have a loss if he is in the
position of being forced to purchase the land at this time. The developer
is looking at some kind of subordinated land 7ease. In discussions
Mr. Boardman and Mr, Herrick have had with the developer, he is
looking at a subordinated land lease for a maximum period of ten years
with a balloon payment at the end of the ten year period, There would
also be a clause in that type of agreement in which the developer could
buy the land at any time. It would be the situation where if the
developer presold the project and the owner of the facility would want
to pay off the land, he would be able to do that at one year, five years,
up to the ten year period.
Mr. Commers asked if the land cost would vary over term or is it something
that is negotiated and agreed upon now and that is what the ultimate
purchase price will be?
Mr. Boardman stated that was a good point and one that was never dis-
cussed. They were looking at a solid value of the property. They were
looking at 10%, or whatever the value is to cover the bond cost, and
that would be the rent of that land over that period of time, At the
ten year period, it would be a one payment cost on the land plus any
other accrued interest.
Mr. Boardman stated the issue on this is whether they would feel com-
fortab7e with this type of arrangement. At this point in time, Staff
would feel comfortable with the arrangement on the purchase of land with
a land lease.
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HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTNORITY MEETING, N�VEMBER 12 1981 PAGE 3
Mr. Commers stated that if there is a buy-out of the project prior
to the ten years, what is the provision Staff is proposing?
Mr. Boardman stated it would be a buy-out of the $600,000 with whatever
accrued interest up to the time of buy-out with no penalty.
Mr. Herrick stated the discussion they had was that if there is a buy-
out, other than a presale, one of the terms to permit the buy-out would
be the balloon or the advance, or accelerate it at the time of closing
of the sale.
Mr. Herrick stated they did have some discussion about whether the
$600,000 figure they have been using for discussion purposes should be
enlarged because of the fact that as years go by, and if they assume
there is going to be inflation, it would probably be a lower figure,
However, the same thing would be true as far as bonds. He did not
think the HRA or the City would get hurt with this kind of arrangement.
Also, the 10% they are using is again only a figure for discussion pur-
poses. The discussion was whatever the cost of the bonds was to the
HRA, that would be what the interest was, so if that was greater than
10%, the lease paynent would be larger.
Mr. Remmen stated he had met with Heitman Financial Services Ltd „ Inc.
He has worked with Heitman Financial Services several times in the past.
He stated the current financial market is such that there really isn't
any chance of mortgaging the center out,unless the interest rate drops
considerably in the next 90 days and they are able to go with some
industrial revenue bonds. The only feasible way to do the center is to
go with a land lease where they would have payments so they could at
least break even on the center during the first ten years.
Mr. 8oardman stated another issue they are talking about is at what
point in time do they sign the actual commitment papers and what the
condition of that signing will be? Mr. Remmen is looking at 90 days
in order to get financing. Nowever, in order to get financing, Mr. Remmen
needs to have a commitment from the HRA, and the NRA wants a corronitment
from Mr. Remmen. One of the things discussed in the meeting and the
on7y way the City will get involved in a commitment is if that commitment
costs "x" amount of dollars. The agreed-to figure at this time, as
discussed wiih Mr. Qureshi, Mr. Herrick, and himself, is a$30,000
commitment up front at the signing of the document from the developer
for a 90 day period, Any extension of financing would 6e at a cost of
$10,000 per month up to three months if additional time is needed for
financing. What has to be determined now is at what point in time can
they sign the commitment documents and when would that 90 days begin?
Mr. Remmen stated the limited partners have a meeting on Nov. 20.
They were of the opinion when they started this project that no money
would be paid out until they had the financing in place. Therefore,
they structured the limited partnership on that basis. HaVing to come
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, NOVEMBER 12, 1981 PAGE 4
up with option money at this time puts them in a difficult position.
It will require them to bring in a contractor as an equity partner.
In order to do this, he will need Super Valu's lease signed.
Mr. Remmen stated he talked to Mr, Hauser on Nov. 11 and presented an
alternate plan to him. Mr. Hauser indicated he would take it under
consideration. Mr. Remmen stated he expected to have an answer from
Mr. Hauser on Friday regarding the Super VaTu Tease.
Mr. Remmen stated that since they are in the position of having to come
up with some option money, he thought they would want at least 90 days
beginning on Dec. 10, the HRA's next meeting. Because of the market,
they would want an extension,with some sort of option money, for at least
an additional three months,
Mr. Cortmers stated that from the HRA's point of view, they should execute
the development contract as of Dec. 10,
Mr. Herrick stated it was his understanding that the $600,000 figure
they are using for discussion purposes is one they think is reasonable,
but the original concept was that it would be 50% of the appraised value.
He thought they should discuss how they are going to get that appraised
value. One suggestion was that the City and the Developer agree to use
the appraisal obtained on the hardware store as a square foot price and
apply it to the entire piece of property.
Mr. Commers stated he felt there still has to be some negotiations
between City Staff and Mr. Remmen regarding arriving at a land value
and land lease payments.
Mr. Herrick stated he thought the HRA would be approving the concept at
this meeting, It will take awhile to prepare the documents, and he
thought if the HRA could indicate whether this concept is satisfactory
and could give some indication of what they want to do in terms of
getting the appraised value, Staff could then come back with concrete
values which the HRA could accept, reject, or modify at their next
regular meeting on Dec. 10. But, at this time, Staff needs some guide-
lines of what the HRA wants to do if the concept and the approach are
acceptable.
Mr. Boardman stated that if this type of concept is acceptab7e, Staff
will bring the structured format with commitment-documents to the
Dec. 10 meeting. They would have the commitment documents completed,
subject to the HRA's approval at that meeting.
Mr. Commers stated it is the concensus of the HRA that Staff should
proceed as outiined using the appraisal received on the hardware property
as the basis for approaching and negotiating a sale price per square foot.
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HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, NOVEMBER 12, 1981 PAGE 5
Mr. Herrick stated that regarding the concept of the land lease payment,
in the agreement they will submit to the HRA on Dec. 10, they will
put in that the interest to be charged on the lease will be equal to
the percentage that was paid on the bonds.
Mr. Commers stated the HRA agrees with the overall concept, and Staff
should go forward and negotiate some type of reasonable deferral of
a portion of the land lease payments over the ten year period of time.
Mr. Boardman stated that, in summary, this will be postponed until the
Dec. 10, 1981, HRA meeting, at which time the HRA expects all documents
to be ready for approval and execution with a payment of $30,000 and
a 90-day option to get the financing in place. Other extensions will
be as outlined by Staff.
Mr. Herrick stated they will mail out drafts of the document with the
next meeting's agenda.
B. Remainder of Center Citv Redevelopment District - Action on R
Mr. Boardman stated it is Staff's recommendation at this point in time
to pull away from Mr. Remmen with development rights, because the City
is working on a proposal for Phase II with Columbia Park Clinic.
If Mr. Remmen can put a package together, then at that time, they can
reconsider,a future right of development.
Mr. Remmen stated he would agree with Mr. Boardman's recommendation,
MOTION BY MR. PRIEDITSS� SECONDED BY MR. NOUCK� SO TERMZNATE THE RSGHT
OF DEVELOPMENT WITH CONTRACS DEVEIAPMENT CORPORATION FOR PHASES I� II�
AND IV OF THE CENTER CITY REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Commers stated that at the last meeting, the HRA expressed a concern
regarding any deposits for potential tenants in the retail center and
what happens to those deposits. Are those deposits put in escrow?
He asked Mr. Remmen if Mr. Remmen had any terms of refund in the event
the development did not go.
Mr. Remmen stated he had only one lease at this time with Ron's Barber
Shop, and it is his intent not to proceed with any more leases until
Super Valu has signed. He stated that under Minnesota State Law, the
deposits can be used as part of the development costs. In terms of the
lease with Ron's Barber Shop, he may have to rewrite the lease. He
stated he would talk with the leaseee and get everything cleared up,
and he would let the HRA know the results.
HOUSING & REDEYELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, NOVEMBER ]2, ]98] PAGE 6
C. Information on Christianson Building Expenditure for HRA Closinq
Mr. Boardman stated that $282,961.57 is the overall amount of cost
that the HRA agreed to pay in their document, of which $275,000.00
is the purchase price plus expenditures over and above the revenues of
$7,961,57. That breakdown of revenue and expenses was on pages 8-11
of their agenda. He stated he is asking for approvaT from the HRA
for the payment of $282,961.57 so they can close on the Christianson
property.
Mr. Commers stated that in order to make sure the HRA is not incurring
some expenses that the City has used and gotten some benefit from,
he felt the HRA should have a further breakdown of the descriptive
items.
Mr. Boardman stated he could get them a further breakdown. He would
have that information for the Decenber 1Oth meeting.
Mr. Boardman stated they are getting some quotes on the demolition of
the property. At the next meeting, he hoped to have some quotes so
they can make some decision on whether to go ahead with the demolition.
He stated that at this time, there is only one tenant using heat, and
this tenant wi71 be out on Nov. 22, and then the City will be shutting
off all the heat. A77 other heat in the building has been turned off
except for the one tenant.
MOTION BY MR, PRRIRIE� SECONDED BY MR. HOUCK� TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON
TXE CHRISTIANSON BUILDING UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING WHEN STAFF WSLL HAVE A
CLEARER BREAKDCXti�N ON THE REVENUES AND EXPENSES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY,
2. MOORE LAKE DISTRICT:
A. Phase I Project - Right of Deve7o�ment Contin�ation (Memo #81-84)
Mr. Boardman stated he had received a letter from Cheryl Nybo requesting
an extension of time as additional time is required to complete the
financing details. Ms. Nybo was requesting 180 days, but realistical7y,
Mr. Boardman stated they would look at a 60-day extension only. He
stated the project looks positive. From what he has discussed with the
finance consultant, they are doing a single issue package and hope to
have the single issue package ready to go and sold before the first of
January. He stated he would recommend the 60-day extension,
MOTION BY MR, HOUCK� SECONDED BY MR. PRIEDITIS� TO GRANT FEHLING� FEHLING�
& NYBO A 60-DAY EXTENSION FOR THE RZGHT OF DEVELOPMENS FOR PHASE I IN
THE MODRE LAI(g RH'DEVELOPMENT DSSTRSCT.
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HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORI7Y MEETIN6, NOVEMBER 12, 1981 PAGE 7
pPON A�VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED
THE MOTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
B. Receive Letter from Mrs. James Meyer, 6391 Central Ave. N.E. -
Mr. Commers declared Mrs. James Meyer's letter dated Nov. 21, 1981,
received into the record.
Mr. Corrmers stated that Mr. & Mrs. Meyer have offered their property
to the HRR. This was discussed at their last meeting, and the HRA
had instructed Staff to send a letter to Mrs. Meyer to get an indication
of what price Mr. & Mrs. Meyer were asking for the property. This
letter was Mrs. Meyer's response. Mr. Commers asked Mr. Boardman to
describe to the HRA why it would be in the HRA's best interest to
purchase this property.
Mr. Boardman stated there are several reasons. He stated the $89,000
asking price seemed reasonable based on the assessed value. He stated
that based on the development they would be looking at in this area, it
would cost a considerable amount more to try and purchase the property
at a later date with development. By having the property, the HRA
would still be in the position of renting the property. If in the future,
they decide not to go:with any kind of development, they could se71 the
property. .
Mr. Boer�nan s���ced 54aff has recor�rnended in the past that when there
are willing sellers of property, especial7y single family property, it
may be in the City's best interest to purchase that single family property.
Mr. Prairie stated the chance of developing in this area does not seem
to be too close. He was 6asing that on the inability to get development
moving on what they consider prime properties.
` Mr. Boardman stated he was not sure how far down the road development
would be. A lot of it depends on how soon the HRA wants to move and
how they want to package the property. At this point in time, they have
not promoted that property. �
Mr. Commers stated he did not think it was feasible at this time when
there are no plans and development seems so far down the line.
Mr. Prieditis agreed with Mr. Commers. He felt it was kind of early
to be acquiring property.
Mr. Commers stated it seemed to be the concensus of the HRA that they
feel it is premature at ihis time to acquire Mrs. Meyer's parcel of
proQerty.
Mr. Boardman stated he would respond to Mrs. Meyer.
HOUSING & REDEVELaPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, NOVEMBER 12, 1981 PAGE 8
3. LARGE FAMILY HOUSING:
A. Letter from Anoka Countv on Lots 7_and 8, Block 1
Mr. Boardman stated he has discussed the acquisition of this property
with Mr. Herrick and with the County. The process the County requires
is that the City must send the County a payment of $6,077 (explained in
the letter). The process is more lengthy than problematic. They will
get title from the State and that will be a clean and marketable title.
Mr. Herrick did not foresee any problems with the acquisition of this
property.
Mr. Boardman stated they have a family in line for this property who
qual9fies and is presently getting financing. There are sufficient
funds left to make this acquisition.
MOTZON BY MR. NOUCK� SECONDED BY MR. PRSEDITIS� TO APPROVE THE
ACQUISITION OF LOTS 7 AND 8� BLOCK 12, SpRSNG BROOK PARX ADDSTSON,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CHRIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. FINANCIA� REPORT:
A. Request fo� Pa ment - Dean Do scher, Professional Planning & Development
Mr. Commers stated the HRA members have a copy of a letter from
Mr. Doyscher dated Nov. 4, 1981, wh9ch addresses the concerns raised
by the HRA with respect to Mr. Doyscher's representation with the
HRA and Contract Development Corporation.
Mr. Boardman stated he had gotten a billing with a brief breakdown
of costs from Mr. Doyscher on Sept. 30. Mr. Boardman stated he had
requested that Mr. �oyscher prepare a more detailed breakdown on the
jusiification of fihe number of hours he had listed on Sept, 30. This
was done in his letter of Nov. 4. Mr. Boardman stated he concurred
with the number of hours. The contract with Mr. Doyscher was up as of
March 1980; however, the City did use his services ,s number of times
in the drafting of the Developers Agreement, and this time was during
June and July 1981.
Mr. Boardman stated Mr. Doyscher was paid prior to March 1980 when
Mr. Doyscher helped establish the tax increment district. Since that
time, the City has not received any quarterly payment statements from
him and, therefore, the City has not paid him since March 1980.
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HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, NOVEMBER 12, 1981 PAGE 9
MOTZON BY .NR. ?RAIRZE� SECONDED BY MS. SVENDSEN� TO RPPROVE A PAYMENT
OF $2�975 TO MR. DEAN DDYSCHER FOR 85 HRS. OF WORK AT A RATE OF $35/HR „
AND TO ESTRBLISH A POLICY THAT IN THE FUTURE� ALL BILLINGS FOR CONSULTANT
WORK MUS2 BE SUBMITTED ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. �
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
B. Check Register Approval
MOTION BY 142. XOUCK, SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRZE� TD APPROVE THE CHECK
REGISTER DATED NOV. 1Q� 298I., IN THE RMOUNT OF $7�I07.00.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHRIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
MQTIOP7 CARRTED UNANIMOUSLY,
5, NEW TAX INCREMENT DIS7RICT DISCUSSION -(Memo #81-87j
Mr. Boardman stated that included in the agenda were copies of both the
Redevelopment Plan and the Tax Increment District. He stated he has set up
a public hearing on the North Area Tax Increment District on Nov. 19, 1981.
The City Council has set their public hearing for Nov. 23 to take action
on this item after the HRA takes action on Nov. 19.
Mr. Commers stated that at the last meeting, he had requested some information
on the history�of these lots.
Mr. Boardman stated he would have al] that information for the HRA at the
public hearing meeting. He stated they are still working on the justification
package. Engineers, developers, Curt Larson,and Dave Narris wi71 be at the
meeting.
Mr. Boardman stated he felt that the soil problems and the drainage problems
that exist in this area really warrant a tax increment district.
The HRA members raised a concern about the large increase of the 1981 assessed
value as compared to the 1980 assessed value.
Mr. Boardman stated he would have that information for the HRA at the public
hearing on Nov. 19.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BX MR. HDUCK� SECONDED BY MR. PRATRIE� TO RAlOURN TXE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE NOVEMBER 12� 1981,
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10:20 P.M.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
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L;,�nne Saba, Recording Secretary
City of Fridley
APPEAIS CO2��;ISSIOI•: M�,.'�'yTING - NaV=;ME;UR 1% 1981 PAGS 1
CALL TO ORDr,Ri '
Chairwomsn Gabel called the November 17, 1981, pppeals Commission Nieeting to
order at 7�30 p,m,
ROLL CALL�
Nembers Presentt Patricia Gabel, Alex Barna, Jean Gerou, Donald Hippen
Members Absentt Jim Plemal
Others Present= Darrel Clark, City of Fridley
Mdres Wlasiuk
R, H, Gerring .,,_
W, F, Clayton �--
Vince I,oyts
APP�ZOV,� APPBALS C0�"�,73SIOid MItiUTs.S OF OCTO�H 13, 1981=
H�TIOh by i4r, Barna, seconded by A;r. Hippen to approve the Apoeals Commission
minutes of October 13, 1981, with the correction Chairman Gabel noted, that
be ing on page 2 middle paragraph Sth li.ne footines not fottings, JPON A
VCIC,.^K, VO'?'E, ALL VOTL'^v A1G, CF.AIRd0i5A\ GAR.sL DECLA.�D Tiid :;C; IC:�; CA.��D
U1�'A'IP'OUSLY.
1,
ylOTI0:1 by ?�, Barna, seconded by N:s, Gerou, to open the public hearing, UPC\ A
VOIC. VO'_rr'„ ALL VO�IttG AYF„ CNr1L�`r10PAN GA£i;L D.CLARE:D T?,r'. PU�LIC HEk3IhG OP'r:\
AT %t3S P.M.
Cnairwoman Gabel read the Staff Reportj
AIYiINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
5111-5115 3rd Street N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY RE UIREMEDTT•
Section 205.065, #2, requires a 1} stall garage for each dwelling unit in a
two-family dwelling.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide adequate off-street
parking and storage space for rental tenants where there is generally more
than one vehicle to a unit.
B. STATED HARDSHIP-
"We need the room (for a temporary 2 year period) for a sewing room for
Mrs. W.73siuk's home occupation,"
�peals Commission Meetir.g - November 17 19g1 Pa�e 2
C. ADMINISTRATNE STAFF REVIEW•
The staff feels that the garage re3uiranents for two-family dwellings are
necessary and that if the petitioner wants to co m.ert t1�e existing garage
to a sewing room, he should then replace the lost garage area by constructing
a new garage. We feel the Soard should consider recomr�endinq denial of this
request.
i�r. Wlasiuk, 5115 3rd street x,E „ was present.
An aerial photograph of the property was available, i9r, Wlasiuk e�cplained
that there cras a two car garage on the property and he wanted to convert part
of that gsrage into a sewing area so that his wife could get her tailoring
business established in her home, reducing overhead, before moving to a store
?ront. He feels this move to a store front could be within a two year time
period, i�s, Gerou asked how many cars he presently owns, r'r, l,(lasiuk
responded three but only ever parked one in the garage, Chairwoman Gabe1 asked
if the`three cars included those oHned by his in-laws who rent part of the
dwelling, He indicated that they did not drive so it was a total of three cars,
Chairwoman Gabel asked how long his wife has had her tailoring busihess, N.r.
Wlasiuk said aince January, She had started iri one of the bedrooms, but the
area was just too small, Chaircaoman Gabel asked of 3�r, Clark the code on
home occupations to whieh he responded that she was within the code on home
occupations, the issue was the conversion of the garage into living space, xe
further stated that upon a visit to the site the carpenters were'just finishing
the sheetrocking and that the dwelling still looks like a garage on the outside,
and that base boarcl heating had been installed, Ns, 1v7asiuk s�as at that time
in£ormed of the code and he subsequently applied for a variance on Septe�,ber 30,
N,s, i,erou asked of the possibility of excess traffie due to custor�ers. T'r,
ivlasiuk indicated that it was a pick up and delivery service so there would be
no miscallaneous traffic, Chairwoman Gabel asked of the possibility of adding
another garage to the property, Mr, Clark said there would be room £or a
detached garage in the back yard, p;r, YI]asiuk indica ;ed no interest as is to
be only a temporary arrangement and it r� s also wise to think about resale,
Chairwoman i:abel voiced some concern over the fact that a tailoring businass
might not generate alot of traffic but should another business go in that
location there could be a problem, She also explored the possibiZity of granting
a variance for a time period and inquired as to further compla7.nts of which
there have been none,
MOTIOM1T by iir, Barna, seconded by hlr, Hippen, to close the public hearing,
UPON A WI(,fi� VO'i�, ALL VOTitv'G Al�, CHAIRt�70N.AN GAE:L Dr.ClAftc:L TI'S�' PUBLIC iir 4RL1u
CLOSnD AT 7tj2 P,N:,
MOTION 6y Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Hippen to recommend to the City Council through
the Planning Co�ission, approval of the variance to reduce the number of garage
stalls from 3 stalls to 1 stalls for a temporary home occupation, until June, 1983,
with the stipulation that if [he property is sold it be reconverted to a garage
before the new owner takes possession. UPON A VOICE VOTE, 1W0 VOTING AYE, TWO VOTING
NAY, CHAIRMAN GABEL DECI.ARED THE MOTION DEFEATED.
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Ti� "i?DIr�Y CODE, TO ALLAl�I
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Korner Pizza, Wearne R. Clayton, 7441 �ast River Road N,n „ Fridley,
Minnesota 55�+32).
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Appeals Commission i,eeting - t3ovember 1�� 1961 Pa�e 3_
N.OTIOr by r;r. Hippen, seconded by 2;s, Gerou, to open the public hearing. UPON
A VOI� VOIn, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIitv70MAN GABr�L DECL+�R:.D T?l: PUBLIC HrARING OPSN
AT 8�05 P.M.
Chairwoman Gabel read the StafY Aeport:
'ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
7441 East River Foad N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY RER U� IREMBQTe
Section 214.045, B1, iequires a maximum of one free-standing sign per street
frontage on a corner lot,
Public purpose served by this zequir�nent is to control visual pollution
and excessive use of signs in commercial areas.
B, STATED HARDSHIP:
"Small new business venture and exposure to public is needed to show
location and retailed products offered. I would like conditional usage
£or the above sign to be approved for one year. At that time I hopefully
will be financially able to entet an agree�nent with the landlord and the
adjoining leasee(Big Wheel Auto Stores) to conform to the City Code."
"I also request that the City of Fridley waive the variance fee."
C. ADMINISTRATNE STAFF REVIEW:
This business is located in the same building as Big Wheel Auto Stores
on the southeast corner of East River Road and Osborne Road. There is an
existing Big Wheel Auto Store free-standing sign (48 sq.:ft.) on the
East River Road frontage. Additional signage could be added to this sign
to a maximwn of BO square feet.
The petitioner currently has a temporary pexmit for the existing sign (15 sq.ft.)
which will expire when action is final on the variance.
T"r. 'dearne F. Clsyton, 7441 Fast River RoBd N,E„ Fridley, xas present.
1•,'r. Clayton 3ndicated that he is a small businessman just trying to get
established and needed the sign simply for frhatever exposure it would give
him, It is a durable si�n and he would like to use it for ona year until it is
financially Peasible to do 6ther advertising. Chairwoman Gabel expressed
concern that the sign is not highly visible, the building is set back and a
pylon sign would �ive more and better exposure and recomnended lookino into it
as soon as £inancial�y possible. She further stated that the corner is not
overly cluttered and that the sign he is using doesn't ttake it any worse, Ns.
Gerou inquired if another large pylon sign could be put up on the corner.
Chairwoman Gabel responded th8t the code says one per corner frontage, which is
determined by ownership. A'r, &arna suggested a lighted sign on the face of the
building, t�ix'. Clark suggested that perhaps someone would like to adnress the
£act that 1's. Clayton requested that the fee be waived, Chairwoman Gabel indicated
Appeals Commission - November 1�, 1981 Page 4
that it was City Covncil's decision, but the fee was used for duplicating and
mailing costs, as rreZl as personnel required to do the ¢iocessing.
h�TION by I•?s, uerou, seconded by h'r. Hippen, to close the putlic hearing,
UPOti A UOI � VO'PS, ALL VOTItv'G AYE CHAIRIdOPAN GAi3L DnCLA?�� THE: PUBLIC i�;A�Ii�G
C7AS;D AT 8�17 P.Af.
MOTION by i�. Hippen, seconded by Ms. Gerou, to recommend to City Council through the
Planning Commission approval of the variance to allow a second pylon sign (2.1/2 ft.
by 6 ft.) until January 1, 1983. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN
GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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A VCICE VO U,
,�T 8 i 21 P. P:.
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Request by Glen ':, $arstad end �ussel Gerring,
Avenue IJ �„ Fridley, 1�� 55�+32)
uerou, seconded by I9r. Earna, to open the public hearing. UPv'd
ALL VOTI;vG AY3 � C"rL�L�:�JO:Slid ^v."vt:�L D:'CLAR:� T$:: PlTSLIC :�A:�P7G OP:;i�
Chairwoman Gabel read the Sta£f Report;
ADMINISTRATNE STAFF REPORT
7300 & 7320 University Ave. N,E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REOUSRFI�IENT:
Section 205.104, lE, #1, requines a minimiun 20 foot front yard setback for
off-street parking.
Public purpose served by this requirenent is to reduce visual pollution
in the front yard, tn provide desired green areas, and to provide
aesthetically pleasing open areas adjacent to public right of ways.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"Existing driveway was built approximately 10 feet fr«n the property line.
Property was split� creating substandazd lots and related setbacks. Driveway
is needed for oroper circulation."
C. ADMINISTRATNE STAFF Rh'VIEW:
The two businesses are located on the northwest corner of University Avenue
and 73rd Avenue. CVrrently the two properties face University Avenue and
are divided by a 10 foot green area, with their entrance and exit driveways
o£f from th e loop back of University Avenue West Service Arive.
The proposal is to install a canmon driveway along the eastern property
Iine (University Avenue) eliminating a�ection of the 10 foot wide green
area to allc7cv the traffic to circulate through both properties.
The staff feels if this variance is approved sane stipulation should be
made to properly screen the area.
Appeals Co�rmission - tdovember 17, 1981 ape 5
P's, R, H, Gerring, 7300 University Avenue fi,a., Fridley, hinnasota; and I•:r,
Vince Loyts, �320 University Avenue h,E „ Fridley, i�innesota ware present,
An aerial view of t.he property was available, p;r. C',erring and T•s,Loyts
indicated an interest in access to one anothers land far easier traffic
flow and less congestion on service road, h�, Loyts had contzeted 'r"r.
$ill Devlon for advice on landscape and preliminary plans have been made to
black top area, add trees, ahrubs and decorative rock, ].andscaping fees
being paid by i�lr, Gerring, would like variance request approved soon so as
to begin landscape and blacktopping projects soon,
MOTION by i;r. Sippen, seconded by i'r. Farna, to close the public hearing, UPG:d
A VOI� VQ'I?3, ALL VOTLIG AYS, CHl L�1,"ONJ�:? �A�L DECLA� TNi PUBiIC ii,:A.RIA1G
CIASED AT 8�37 P,N:,
MOTION by Ms. Gerou, seconded by Mr. Barna, to recommend to the City Council through
the Planning Co�ission, approval of the variance to reduce the setback for a
driveway from the right-of-way line from the required 20 feet to 0 feet, to make
a covmion driveway for 7300 and 7320 University Avenue N.E., with the stipulation
that they work with the City Planning Department on landscaping. UPON A VOICE VOTE,
ALL VOTING AYE, CIiAIRWOMAN GABEL DECIARED THE MDTION CARRIED UIdANIMOUSLY.
Q"'Hi:R BUSI'�TESS=
Chairwoman Gabel noted that the December 29, 1981, meeting of the r';ppeals
Commission would be cancelled.
I�t)�TOUi'�1rr�.!y= i
A�TIO�, by 2•a, Earna, seconded by i•'s, Hippen, to adjourn. UPCY A'dCI�' VOT�
ALL VOiING AY?„ CHAL�;OIL4N GA3i,L D�CL9RcD Tii� APPnALS COi•4:I5SIOId �:.rr;G OF
NOVE;�'&3r� 17, 1981, ADJOU�iv�'D AT_ B:4p P,p;,
Respectfully submitted,
Pat Vor. Npseh
?.ecording Secretary
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tlte Qnan Tra#ping Cenier �as �rr thE process of b�fng constructed� During eon-
struction, th�y rar+ into the r�nains of tfie Natio»al Pole-and Treating Go>, which
used to be th�re fn'about 188�, and found creosote and same creosote starage tanks.
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Mr. F�ora stated that Beise �ascade bought Nat�o�rn� Pale in about }959-6D: A
year.or so iater, Bsfse Ce'�st�de closed down theiw'operativn and 5old the praperty
to Or,a� and,'Medtr�nic. At:S�ue time, the°area.was 1�veled and filled up, and in
that actian, a numtrer'o# er$osote:tar�ks were buried on the site. Apparently, no
one ttrld f}nan and in '#re exie8vation for their trdinin� fac9liiy.!they ran across
the creosote storag� tanks.
Mr. F]ora siated that since the cr�eosote was on the construction site, 4nan went
th�ough the'process°af traut:fing the creosote a€�� �nd disposing of.it-at various
appra�ved �ites. 8ut, tMey also fdu�d a large amount o€ �he oi1 in the ground, and,
there#ore, ran some`tests: 1+�, Fi:ora stated th&t no one can telt,h#m what kind of
eontra�s they had in the di�g9ng �d what pre�autions wer'� tak�n'in dagging a hole
doMm to the water aqu�ifer tip.deteirmine if<there was any possible potiution,
HQwever, he`did know they ran a ht�l� down'to about 190 ft., they;caught sane water,
arrd`in tfie;process ofi pu�pitlg the water out, they found some creoso�e. The tests
vrere to run`for 24 flrs. of;pumping; The pump broke after 78-20 hwsi sa,;the test
wa� 5ta�ped at that=il�, from the time'they-started pumping to the time they
stopped pumping, the amoun� of creosote they wer�_picking ap was'decreas�ng. Since
they di8 rmt run the .test f4�' 24 Nrs., he sta%d the�r reaTly do not know what would
have happened if tk�eq had p�n�ed another 4-6 hrs,' He stated that �en the ho:le was
dug;, it is,rpossible=ihat sci�xe creosote may hav� run down the hale and contaminated
the'site at th� bo�fi.�»n of the dr911 hote.` Neverthetess, Onan stapped c�nstruction.
Mr. �tara stated that then the MP�A got invo7vEd:and wanted �o find out wha� was
the'cau5e and the extent of the PoTlution. llnan feli they had spent enough money.
S9nce Medtranic was a neig►�bt�r and aiso owned property that.belanged to National
fote, they:thought �t�ere mi:gh� be pollution on their property also. The finger �
was pointed at Boise Cascat#e, who was the last aMrner and successor to Nationa7
Po3e. aml 6ofse Caseade be��m� the main compar�y for iitigatton �o deterrtrine the
amount af pollui9on: pn the iht�n�Nledtronie sites.
Mr. F1ora gtaied thfi5 went on for a 7ong ti�, but brcause Boise Caseade did not
want to be named in iitfic���'�on as a polluter, tt�ey gracfiausly volunteered' ta_run
a test and �rork in.identifyinq'the;'extent'of ca�t�mi�atian on the site so that some
parameters cuuid bE made of n�w to treat the site if anything had to be done.
Baise Cescade then b�came inuolved in a suit �gainst Onan to-get some cooperation.
Rt tfraL time, t�dtronic was interested in bui'idtng another bui}didg, so they became
+tery caoperative to get ttie construction started and inve5tigate the site.
Mr.,.Flora stated tMe M�dtrt�t�ics property is Gut in two parts by Old Central. The
eu�thasis of investigatlon was vn 'the east s�de, wfiich is thQ new Medtron9cs site,
sin�e tfle,west s9d� sitE �es air�ady under br�ilding and.asphalt: �ledtronics put
sa�e t�1es down and`detern�3'�ed ther� was sane soil contamination, but they did
not ga very deep and d�id ea# ffnd any }arge Cfl�tamination of water in that parti-
�u�ar area.
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�'',5o that the resid�e wauld °
:k. These 'detenti�, pnn�ls."
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f��res:t3gate with most af their
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sh�uld be availabl� in de�.';
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#!� stated they can do a lot
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�qui�unent� they have. they; ;�-,
=the vrater, 8�cau� th2
• how I�tt1� the�;3s>pf �Chat e7�nent. Also, in
tta� Protec�ioh.��sc�! h�s not really defined wf��t
��fe amoutlt: _ 5l�� b� upon the tes'ts. ttrat were
li�.."µ1M C6.M\t4'WF1Ma�.
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�eettts ►�r� w�than ihe safe
r��ection Agency. .Since this
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south of the�r �l�nt where
attention to it.,and thc
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ENI�I�ONMf14T�t1. QURLT7Y"Ct;�lI��tON h�E7iN6, NQwE1�ER 17, }5$T PA6E 4'
th�re was nc contamin�tion iR the �re1l. FMC quit'pamping wat�r out-oi`their we13s, 1
and'they are presently buyi►� Wate� from Minneapo7is..
Mr. flbra 5tated tfiat'�MC.is runrring a soiis ii�uestigatfon to try to determine the
exi�snt cff ,Gbntaminatian �it� :fi�e �ro�nd sofil, ba�+ �ateralTy and vertically. They
h,�Ve also drilled a n►imber-o#,t�st'=:a�eTls aroun�,ihe periphery� bwt Mw. Ftora stated
he �iid �t kncsw the%�esults a# tt�crse test wells, -
Mr: `Fto�a s�ated they are tt�#nl�ireg about dritl:f#�g :another :c1ty well near Weil �13,
because,of tfie.demand far water irf that area. �ut, the Gfty will:not g�^pcead any
furt�er yntil they geC so� a�rswsrs from FM4C, th� PfiPCA, �nd �4�e Health ti�par�ment
on i�i�t •is�f�a��ening Or�.the`�IC �raperty. In #fi�e �aat'irc�z. they are checking
We]'f ��3 e�er� six mo�ihs.t�r.see i# anythtng is f�appening: From what they can te11,
the contamitiatian haS;be�n:c8neentrated on the,F1� Qr�perty and is npt going any-
whe�e ets��., H� stafi,e� tMsy wi71"try to keep th� �nvironmental Qualfty Canmission
infpr�st, arisi as info�t#on, is re+�ived, it wi�l"be passed on to the CaroniSSion.
Mr. 'S+tanda �taaitked Mr�; f�oi^a fvr caning to the meeting ant! giving th�n ihis
i n€e�rn�ation «
2. GOt4'FIkttfEQ; DISC .+ It��t t�1 RECYGLING G4JEST SP�IVK�R - BOB HUT TMSON Of
Mr.���dr+da s#ated��h�is came �#� a fe� meeti;ttgs ac�� �on �at� coutd �the E3ty- do, ,Etot �� �
anl,� wfith re�yc}9ng, h�t wi-tt� the:sotid waste i55ue also. The Comnf�sion wanted
to'�refoc�us their Stte�stion an iook#ng at ifie areas af Meducing th� waste stream,
re�,yctir�q,,etc. "fh�+,had as�er,E" Mr: Hutchi'nson Lo `cane and speak :ta the Gonmi�sion
and te]1 th�`Comrn��sfir�n wba�°%fie C�►nty is'daing., what plans the Cfl�ty is looking
ats�p�t su�ge��i�ns #te�Cot��� ��d give the Coa�tissivn��and the Cfty, and how�� ��
tfi� City eould tmaybe•�Eesh w�t� s�ha� the Caunty ,�M4 o�her� metrapolitan eounties are
doiny.
Mr. Nr�tchinson 5tated he fel# i� was his purpose to tell the Commission where the
Anoka Gaan�y Staff fs at and what �ireciion the'y;are going in terms of solid waste
respnfisibitftt�� attd' �tvising t'he �ourity Baard.. "
Mr. ;H�+ick�ins?�a �eui�1 �k� �}�istary of how the meCropotitan ceunt�es g�t ;�nvo�ved
in sutid was�e in 19�i�-and:trt the identificati� ctf solid wastP d�sposal sites.
He state� �Cnoka Count,�ic�rr�ittly has for�r 7and�fi7s tieense�i as sa�ai�ary:la�d�ills,
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th�*�Go��y.at its present raLe v�l� get them thr^ough tti T�te 7985Jeariy 1�385. : �,
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w'lF.� any cciunty facility, _At�ythii� that can be ehtne dt the pbint af cnitection
to re�c2 tiie vot�ne 9oing �r tiie -landfill-faefitity is a ptus, as far,as he is
cQncerned. He stated t6a C�t,�•can require'thc use of a given haul,er an� they can
require the:haaler t9 provide a ee�^tain type pf s�rvice and can xequire the home-
o�r to manage sol;id wast� an th�<premises in a cert8fn manner. Ther� are same
en�arc�ent:prob7ems when`th�r get'inta homeowner inva'4vement, but ihe City has
the a��bpriLy ta adopt an o�d4nanCe ta requfre.peopie to manage the#r solid waste.
He stated the �st ef#ective.way Me could see,,"right aaw is a atunicipa7 contraet
wi�h � private hau7er for ct��Tec!tinrt. The City cotrld write inta'tFie cfmtract
� tt�at the haut�r rtdke :a►y^an�nts `to collect th'F�►ys stparately, provid�d tfiose
require�aettts are rea#,�stfc:
Mr, HuL�hitison statert the bbii•ggest hurd)e to ge'� over 9s tMe City'.not wanting to
g�t:'fAfi�s.�he garbag�e�fiaulitt� 6trs�ness. � � � � � �
Mr,.Hu�Chinst�t stated that pne tfi#ng the haulers haie is yard waste. The realistic �
th3ng for �he County ta do 3s Mave a separate yard waste facia9ty �y�rd waste being
or�ly grass sl�ipp9ngs.as►d 1�aaes). That coutd be-composted and turned frrto a
Mt�us�type of materi�l,and:used. So, one:of t#�e things fifie Coun�ty is looking at
i3 the�fea�ibil9ty of a�raa�tl �aste facility. 1# there is a€ee, it ivould be nominat
cu#npared to'the land�tli f�, �ne way wr�uld be to have tfie citizea's bring their
7eaues and gY�asS c�i�pings:�tt the.yard waste fac�7ity,or in the Gity's municipal
cahtraet witk the g�^bage !�u#e�^,;ihey could 4nclude a requirem�nt that the hauler
picl� up th�-�ard was�es separately and bring the�n io �he Gounty faciiity. It maq
even be �re feasib�e for Fr#�1�� to have thei� ov�n yard wasie facitity.
F�^. �Hu�ehinson sta�� t�e r��ity ��lt that= so�i�ce �separatipn is ue�^y worthwhile�. �
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the Ci�y cou�d hand?!�, bt+�=i� woutd caution tt►et� to not take on more than th2y could
hariitle far'the first 5#ep: ; He, stated that i� th� Car�nniss9on daes have a meeting
with ttre_garbage �u�e�s,.t�e etou]d be happy ta �ttend that meeting.
#�. Sv:tncka thanked'T�. HutChinson:fur ct�ing to the ntee�irtg.and stated that the
, Ce�pmissian had certainty a�preciated his taking the time to come and talk to�them.
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOUSING & REDEUELOPMENT AUTHORITY
PUBLIC HEARING
NOYEMBER 19, 1981
CALL TO OR�ER:
:
Chairperson Commers called the November 19, 1981, Housing & Redevelopment
Authority Public Hearing meeting to order at 7:35 p,m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present:
Members Absent
Larry Commers, Russel
Carolyn Svendsen
Houck, Elmars Prieditis, Duane Prairie
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Mervin Herrmann, City Assessor
Mayor Bill Nee
Mark Burch, Assistant Public Works Director
Curtis Larson, Appraiser
Virginia Steinmetz, League of Women Voters
Dick Harris, Chairman of Planning Commission
Gerald Paschk� 5920 N. Kirkwood Lane
Bob Schroer , 8100 UniversityAve. N.E.
1. PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE NORTH AREA REDEVELOPMENT PLAN:
MOTION BY MR. PRAIRIE� SECONDED BY MR. HOUCK� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE
ES2ABLISHMENT OF THE NpRTH AREA REDEVEIAPMENT PLAN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL V02ING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DEC2ARED TNE PUBLIC HEARING
OPEN AT 7:37 P.M.
Mr. Boardman stated the redevelopment area is bounded by County Rd, 132 on the
north, University Ave. on the east, with the lower limits at 79th Ave., 81st Ave.,
and 83rd Ave., with the westerly boundary being the railroad tracks. He stated
that under the State Statutes, this area will qualify for a redevelopment district.
He stated that in setting up a redevelopment district, there are two steps they
have to take: (1) Setting up a Redevelopment Plan; and (2) Determining what
kind of financing they are going to use to accomplish the goals of that plan.
Mr. Boardman stated the financing they are going to use is tax increment financing
and then the establishment of a tax increment plan for that district. There will
actua7ly be two public hearings--one on thl North Area Redevelopment Plan and one
on the Tax Increment Plan.
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HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY PUBLIC HEARING MEETING, NOVEMBER 19, 1981
Mr:. Boardman stated that one of the conditions they look at in setting up a
redevelopment plan is a condition of blight. Under the State Statutes, the condition
of blight can be severa] things. Generally, blight is thought of as slums or
deteriorating housing or deteriorating structures. Another consideration of blight
is property that has unique conditions that make it undevelopable. This is the
situation with the property in the North Area district. They intend to outline
for the HRA and the public the reasons for the establishment of this district and
the proof necessary by State Statutes to establish the Tax Increment District and
the North Area Redevelopment P1an.
Mr. Boardman stated that the HRA has three documents: The North Area Redevelopment
Plan, the Tax Increment Plan to the North Area Redevelopment District, and a Report
on the Statutory Conditions of a Redevelopment District. He stated the Report on
Statutory Conditions includes the appraisa] report, a soil boring report from the
City Engineering Dept., and an overview that he drew up to satisfy the conditions
under the 5tate Legislation. He stated he would first present the North Area
Redevelopment Plan and then the Tax Increment Plan.
Mr. Boardman stated that with the North Area Redeve7opment Plan, they are required
have a public hearing before the Housing & Redevelopment Autihority and the City
Council. The HRA makes an application of that plan to the City Council, and the
City Council has to approve the plan before the plan can be implemented. The
City Council's public hearing will be on Monday, Nov. 23, He stated the Planning
Commission also has to review this plan and submit its findings to the HRA, The
Planning Commission reviewed the plan at their Nov. 18 meeting and passed a
resolution recommending approval to the City Council and also approving the district
and finding that the district does, in fact, meet the Comprehensive Plan of the
City. That finding was based on the Comprehensive Land Use Plan for ]990. That
Plan was approved by the Planning Commission and by the City Council and was sent
on to Metropolitan Council. Within that 1990 Land Use Plan, the Planning Commission
and City Council designated three areas--the Moore Lake area which is already an
established district, the Center City area which is already an established district,
and the North Area, which they are discussing at this public hearing.
Mr, Commers stated that with respect to the overall size of fridley, what is the
size of the redevelopment areas they now have in the City of Fridley?
Mr. Boardman stated he did not break it down by size, but he did break it down
by percentage of the districts based on assessed value. In the City of Fr9dley,
with all three tax increment districts included, they have 3.18% of the total
assessed value.
Mr. Cortaners stated that assuming the North Area Redevelopment Plan and the Tax
Increment Plan were adopted based upon the plans, what would be the percentage
of those districts after development?
HOUSIN6 & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY PUBLIC �EARIN6 MEETING, NOVEMBER 19, 1981
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Mr. Boardman stated the projection is apploximately ten times that much in
assessed value of those districts. They lave a total assessed value of around
$5.3 million and at the completion of all'Ithose districts, they are ta7king about
probably $60-65 million. The amount will�ivary on the amount of development, the
type of development, and the concentratior�jof development that goes in.
Mr. Boardman stated the Planning Commissiqq,ln's recommendation then comes to the
HRA. The HRA takes action on the North A�I�a Redevelopment Plan and the Tax Increment
Plan and submits that to the City Council
Mr. Boardman stated that in reviewing the I2edevelopment Plan, there are certain
State requirements: (1) description and lagal descriptions of the district;
(2) the HRA's authority; (3) redevelopmen goals and objectives and specific goals
and objectives; (4) the redevelopment pla ;(5) goals for property acquisition;
{6) land disposition and redevelopers' req'iirements; and (7) a finance plan.
Mr. Boardman stated a redeve7opment plan anerally a]lows them to go on a project-
by-project basis to try to spur industrial,development and private development in
some kind of cooperative agreement betweenithe HRA and private development. It
also allows a procedure for amendment.
Mr. Boardman stated the final r.equirement inder the Redevelopment Plan and also
the Tax Increment Plan is to present thesl� plans to the school districts and the
County Board. He stated he made a present�tion to the County Board, but was not
requested to present'the plan to the schoo boards. They did send notices to all
three school districts in the City of Frid ey, but received no response. He stated
they did get a positive response from the '.ounty Board.
Mr. Boardman stated that, under the Tax In�.rement Plan, they intend to lay out
the justification for development and why t is necessary to use tax assistance in
putting this plan together.
Mr. Boardman stated that as far as land an real property acquisition, all the
Redevelopment Plan addresses is that they ould definitely look at the possi6ility
of property acquisition, but each project ould have to be judged based on its own
merits as to whether or not the HRA would 'et involved with assistance. A11 the
setting up of the district does is allow t e City the opportunity to assist. It
gives maximum opportunity to influence or ring in private investment.
Mr. Boardman stated the goals for propertyllacquisition, if property acquisition is
necessary, are:
3,
4.
Structures that are determined by Ithe Fridley Building Inspector to
be structurally substandard.
Land and/or structures that will ermit land development and redevelop-
ment parcels to be large enough t accommodate new developments and
corresponding parking requirements,
Land and,lor structures that are needed to make necessary public improve-
ments in a proper relationship to the projected project.
Properties that are non-conforming land uses when such an acquisition
will benefit the overall redevelopment goals.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY PUBLIC HEARING MEETING, NOVEMBER 19, 7981
PAGE 4
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MP. Boardman stated that, exc7uding any other type of available financing, it is
tfie general intent that tax increment financing will be the major tool.
Mr. Commers stated that other than the financing approach which the HRA has
contro] of in this project where they are not going to be making property acquisi-
tions and requesting private developers to come in with plans for their approval,
what is their control over this are3 regarding the present 7and owners and their
desire to develop their property?
Mr. 6oardman stated the HRA',s control is mainly with utilizing tax increment
financing to assist some of the property prob �ems they have--drainage problems,
assessment problems, and land reclamation problems.
Mr. Comners stated that as in the other projects where they have had some say
regarding the type and extent of the development, would they have this same
situation in this kind of a project?
Mr. 8oardman stated the HRA would have that same control,because in order to assist
in project development, there would have to be certain conditions. Those conditions
can be set up by the HRA. What they will attempt to do in the tax increment plan
is show that they do not anticipate any private development without some sort of
assistance. That assistahce is where the HRA would have control in the development
of the district.
Mr. Boardman stated the procedure for amendment is the same procedure used for
setting up the plan. If they amend any portion of the Redevelopment Plan to
increase the size of the district, they have to go through the same process of a
public hearing, notification to the schools boards and ihe County Board, etc,
Any other amendements in documentation or changes in project just have to go
through the HRA and City Council.
MOTZpN BY MR. HOUCK� SECONDED BY A42, PRIEDITIS� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
TXE ESTABLISHMENT OF TAE NORTH AREA REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8:50 P.dl.
2. PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX INCREMENT PLAN TO THE N�RTH AREA REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT:
MOTION SY MR, PRIEDITSS� SECONDED BY NIlZ, pRASRIE� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
THE TAX INCREMENT PLRN TO THE NORTH RREA REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN RT 8:I1 P.M.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMEN7 AUTHORITY PUBLIC HEARING MEETING, NOVEMBER 19, 1981
PA6E 5
Mr. Boardman stated that under Chapter 273 of the Minnesota State Statutes, the
tax increment plan is a tool that Housing & Redevelopment Authorities can use in
a redevelopment district. The tax increment plan allows the HRA to capture any
excess tax over a frozen assessed value and that frozen assessed value is deter-
mined at the time of the establishment of the district. What he meant by frozen
assessed value is that all of the taxes that are generated up to that value still
go to the school district,"the County, and the City. Taxes that are generated
due to inflation or due to development in that district are excess tax and that
goes to the HRA. That allows the HRA to sell bonds based on that excess tax or
on developments to do the things that are necessary to work with private develop-
ment in order to get an area developed. This is one of the reasons that in setting
up a tax increment district, there are certain ]egislative tests that are required.
Mr. Boardman stated the problems they have in the North Area Redevelopment District
are two-fold. There is an area that is generally undeveloped and has been for
a long time, The primary purpose for that undevelopment is because of the soil
conditions. The soil conditions in most cases are heavily layered with peat, 61ow
sand, and uncontrolled fill, making it very expensive for private investors to
develop. There is also a very high water table in this area. Any peat or soil
excavation requires a lot of water work in order to do that soil excavation. Any
foundations or footings require a lot of water work. There are also problems with
drainage in this area, There are two basic drainage districts--Stoneybrook and
Springbrook, If and when this property is developed, all development in this area
will be channeled into either one of the two drainage districts. So, there
has to be a lot of drainage work for retention or some control of the downstream
run-off. That will be a very expensive process and that expensive process on
top of the soil work really compounds the problems in this district.
Mr. Boardman stated the way they are establishing the district and the way they
set up the tax increment district is a breakdown of phases. The reason they broke
it dow� by phases is because the State Law requires them to lay out their exact
financing plan of projects within the district. They generally look at setting
up one phase in which they can lay out some of the expenditures or a project they
feel is something that has either been proposed or is being submitted through a
process at this time. They call that Phase I. In Phases II-v, they lay them
out as a description in general and the discussion within the plan allows them
to take each of those phases as a project and that project would be handled as an
amendment to the plan.
Mr. Commers stated that at the last meeting, the NRA members had some questions
regarding assessed value in Phase I.
Mr, Boardman stated he did submit to the HRA a report on the breakdown on the
difference between the 1981 assessed value and the 1980 assessed value. On all
of the plan documents, they use the 1981-payable 1982 assessed values, The
reason they did not use the 1981 plan impact on taxing jurisdictions is because
they do not have the total value at this time for any of the districts--the
school district, the County, or the City of Fridley. R11 they have in total
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY PUBLIC HEARING MEETING, NDVEMBER 19, 1981
PAGE 6
valuation is I980, so the use the 7980-payable 1981, just as a comparison to
the taxing jurisdictions. All other documents or all other values that are
listed in the Tax Increment Plan are 1981-payable 1982,
Mr. Boardman stated the North Area Tax Increment Financing District has been set
up as a redevelopment district based on a legislative test iaid out in Chapter 273:
"The land is not predominately occupied by buildings, streets, uti7ities,
or other improvements, but at least 80 percent of the tota] acreage of such
land has a fair Market Value upon inclusion in the Redevelopment District,
which when added to the estimated cost of preparing the land for use,
including utilities, if any, exceeds its anticipated fair market value
after completion of said preparation."
Mr. Boardman stated what they have to determine is what the present value of the
property is in the area, what the estimated value of the property would be after
all improvements, and then take the property as it is, look at the property
conditions, see what the cost of preparing the land, preparing streets.and
utilities, drainage improvements, etc., is to see if that value is higher than
what the market will bear. In order to do that, they had to get some appraisals,
land values, what anticipated value of land would be if a71 ready for development,
and what their present land va7ue is on the property. Secondly, they had to get
some soil borings.
Mr. Boardman stated that in the Report on Statutory Conditions, he had written
a summary sheet that'out7ined the estimated cost per square foot and the percentage
of land they feel are going to be affected by the legislative test.
Mr. Boardman introduced Mr. Curt Larson, who had been asked to make some appraisals
on the property.
Mr. Larson stated that his Appraisal #1 was in Phase I, Appraisal �2 was in the
wet area in Phase V, and Appraisal #3 was for a lot in the southwest area of
Phase IV.
Mr. Larson stated he went into the market (the market defined as the kno�ledgeable
buyer and knowledgeable seller) and tried to decide from the market what the
market would pay for the land in its present condition. To surranarize his report,
he stated that with sales involved in 1981 of parcels of land in that area, the
land was running at 54-57Q/sq. ft. In his determination of that, the raw iand
market value, with a knowledgeable buyer and seller, was 55Q/sq. ft.
Mr. Larson stated the second function of the appraisal, as he saw it, was to go
into the market and decide what a knowledgeable buyer would pay to a knowledgeable
seller,under the definition of market value, for that land to be prepared to be
built on. His estimation was $1.70/sq. ft.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY PUBLIC HEARING MEETING, NOVEMBER 19, 1981
PAGE 7
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Mr. Larson stated his highest and best use consideration for the land was light
industry or of a business-part usage. He had not considered this as a multiple-
unit development or anything of that type.
Mr. Larson stated one important question is this particular appraisal is: What
are the costs to prepare the land for someone to build? In his research, that
would run $1.55/sq. ft.,making a retail cost of the land in the market at $2.10/
sq. ft., but the retail value is $1.70/sq. ft.
Mr. Larson stated he felt it was not economically feasible at this time for
developers to develop, and they have not. He stated he had a recap of, not only
the sales included in his report, but also the sales of the land he used on the
raw land sales. He provided a capy of that recap for the HRA.
Mr. Boardman stated that at this time, he would like Mr. Mark Burch, Assistant
City Engineer, to give his testimony. Mr. Burch has done the analysis of the
soil boring reports and will give the HRA an indication of what he feels the
district loaks like;engineering-wise.
Mr. Burch stated he had reviewed the soil boring reports and records. One thing
that is pretty common in this area is large deposits of peat, some extending as
far down as 19 ft. There is also a high water table in this area. He stated that
both of these conditions do not lend themselves well to constructing footings,
especially spread footings. The normal way to correct the soil is to excavate the
peat deposits down to a l:�er of soil that is suitable for support of the footings
and then backfill with suitable compacted granular material and bring the land back
up to grade. To perform the corrective work in this district would be very
expensive because of the high water table. He thought the cost of doing this
corrective work, especially to the extent and to the depth they are talking about
in some of these areas, would make this property undevelopable,
Mr. Burch stated that Mr. Boardman had asked him what other options might be
available to the developer if it is too expensive for the private developer to
� excavate and refill. from talking to various builders and from his own experience,
he thought there were two obher alternatives: (1) the use of bearing piles to
support footings. He �iated the use of bearing piles is very expensive and the
cost would put the dev�lopment of these sites out of line. (2) excavation of the
peat down to a suitable layer of soil and put the foundations down there. This
method usually requires -i means of continually dewatering the site and usually
will have one or two stc•ies below ground level, The dewatering is also very
expensive,and these costs would be prohibitive to the developer.
Mr. Burch stated he thought this area is proba6ly going to be slow to develop
because of the soil conditions and the high water table.
Mr. Prieditis stated that he wondered how much of this tax increment district
would be unrealistic to develop. He was looking at the areas where there is
15 ft, even 10 ft., of peat, that even with the assistance of the HRA and tax
increment financing, the cost would be prohibitive for a developer to build.
HOUSING & REDEUELOPMENT AUTHORITY PUBLIC HEARING MEETING, NOVEMBER 19, 1981
.
Mr, Boardman stated they really only had one major area where they have deep
soil borings and some 19 ft. deep soil borings. What they would have to do when
a project comes up is look at those areas to see whether those areas can be
assisted by the HRA. Not all areas are going to be developable. Maybe those
areas that cannot be developed are the areas where they need some type of drainage
retention for some ather kinds of use.
Mr. Boardman stated one thing they look at in setting up a tax increment plan
is the 80% test. In analyzing it, looking at the road reports, and construction
reports, he and Mr. Burch felt that, based on the way the district is established,
the only properties that would not be affected by the soil conditions to some
degree are the properties closest to 85th Ave. and University Ave. But as they go
back on the property, they still have peat and bad soil conditions. They feel
that all other properties within the district will be affected by sor<� Fin� of
soil conditions and will need some kind of assistance in the deve7opment of ihis
district. They are talking about g7,6% of the properties that fall within this
type of classification and will require some assistance. That meets the "egislative
test which is 80� of the district.
Mr. 8oardman stated he Mas given a brief sunrnary of the discussions of Mr. Larson
and Mr. Burch in the "Report on Statutory Conditions of a Redevelopment District".
In there, he laid out an "Estimated Cost per Square Foot Table", In that table,
he laid out the "Actual Land Improvement Value" and the "Total Value the Market
will Bear". He used $1,70/sq. ft, as what the market will bear, The average
existing land value was 55¢/sq. ft., and adding an average existing assessment of
8¢/sq, ft., an average land preparation cost of $1.00/sq. ft., an anticipated
drainage improvement assessment of 17¢/sq. ft., and an average additional road
and public utilities assessment of 80�/sq. ft., he came up with a total land
improvements value of $2.54/sq. ft. He stated they meet the legislative test if
they run at $1.71/sq. ft. He stated this is strictly on a comparison besis.
Mr. Boardman stated he had asked Mr. Dick Harris, Mr. Jerry Paschke, and
Mr. Bob Schroer to be at the meeting. All three are very familiar with the area
and would be glad to answer any questions the HRA had.
T Mr. Dick Harris stated he was speaking as Chairman of the Planning Corrrnission.
At their meeting on Nov, 18, the Planning Commission recommended the Redevelopment
Plan to the City Council and the HRA. They also passed a resolution confirming
that this particular redevelopment plan concurred with the 1990 Overall Compre-
hensive Plan.
Mr. Harris stated the area has been slow to develop, and they are aware of two
major problems, one being the bad soil conditions and the second being the drainage,
which is probably almost as severe.
Mr. Harris stated that in deference to Mr. Curt Larson's appraisal, he thought
the disparities are even more severe than they have been lead to believe. There
was a major sale in the area last spring of seven acres just south of 81st. The
total sale was $115,0�0, which worked out to be about 37¢/sq. ft, He thought that
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PAGE 9
was a good yardstick price to use for the whole area. He thought 55¢/sq, ft.
would probably be all right closer to University Ave „ but for the rest of the
area, it is probably a little bit high. They also ran some calculations at the
5 ft. level and came up with probably about a$2,25 land correction cost. And,
that particular figure probably does not include removing the distressed soils.
Mr. Narris stated that the cost of what the land will bear, $1.70/sq. ft., i5
probably true along University Ave. in the commercial area, but back about 300 ft.,
he thought the cost would be considerably lower. As they go back towards the
railroad tracks and Main St., the disparities become much more severe. He stated
it is his personal feelin9 that without this particular type of district, the
land probably would never be developed. Even at that, he thought they are going
to have to look at unique building designs and unique land use designs to make
it work. He stated there has been a proposal before Planning Commission, who
recommended approva] of it to the City Council, for a 360-unit apartment complex
in Phase I. That is predicated on the sale of housing bonds and some other things.
That project could be a boon to the City and could be considered consistent with
the City's planning.
Mr. Paschke stated that in the development of the office building, the worst
ground was about 5 ft. of peat, and they were fortunate enough to use some of the
on-site soil to correct the bad soil. The biggest problem they had was the surface
water. He stated that right now the biggest problem is financing, and he would
not develop any further without some kind of assistance.
Mr. Bob Schroer stated he has been involved in land in this area for the last
15-20 years. He was involved in the sale of the property at 73rd and University,
which sold within a year because the soil conditions were good, But, he has
owned some parcels of land for 12-13 yrs and still has not sold them. He has sold
some parcels and gotten them back, because they are too costly to develop.
Mr. Schroer stated he is presently involved in Phase I with the 360-unit apartment
complex. Contrary to what Mr. Curt Larson said, their report from the soil people
said that housing should be developed in that area because the land is not suitable
for industrial and would support 360 units, There is 4-6 acres in the northern
part of Phase I that is not suitable whatsoever. There is about 35 ft. of peat
in that area. He stated they are going to need a lot of financial help to make
this project workable.
Mr. Nee stated he was speaking not as the Mayor, but as a private citizen. He
stated that the HRA is going to have to make the decision. He stated he thought
they have to make the decision of whether they want development in that area at
all or whether they want to leave it the way it is. He stated it has been said
that there is no such thing as an unbuildable lot, and that has been partly proven,
but he also thought some have been developed in a way he would rather they not have
been developed because of the economics of the correction required. Under certain
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development pressures, 100 years from now, it might be worth the corrections,
but it did not seem to him that in the next 20 years anything is going to happen
that will make it worth doing in the private process, other than junk development.
He could anticipate that if the City doesn't intervene and get occasional fore-
closures and abandonment, or the land prices get relatively low compared to
other properties, they may have some kind of junky development taking place. That
development would not be of much service ta the community. He felt public inter-
vention and participation would be justified.
Mr. Nee stated that some people say that it does deprive the rest of the community
of some income in the future for a certain amount of time, but he did not think
the income would be very significant in the total scheme of things as compared
to a do-nothing position on it. He did not know the rest of the Council's feelings
on this, other than that they are certainTy interested in seeing how the area
might evolve and develop, and that the idea of multiple housing across from North
Park is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan as filed with Metropolitan Council.
Mr. Commers thanked Mr. Paschke, Mr. Schroer, and Mr. Harris for coming to the
meeting and giving their perspective of the distr9ct.
MOTION BY MI2. HOUCK� SECONDED BY hII2. PRRIRIE, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE
TAX SNCREMENT PLAN TO THE NORTH AREA REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE PUBLSC XEARSNG
CLOSED AT 9:25 P.M. •
Mr. Commers stated that if there was not any more questions or discussion, he
would entertain motions on the approval or disapproval of the North Area Redevelop-
ment Plan and the Tax Increment Plan.
MOTZON BY MR, PRAIRIE� SECONDED BY hII2. HOUCK� TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. HRA-1Z-1981�
"12ESOLUTION APPROVING THE NORTH AREA REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND FILING OF THE PROJECT
APPLICRTION TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY".
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMDUSLY.
MOTION BY hII2, PRIEDITIS� SECONDED BY MR, HOUCK� TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. HRA-Z2-I981�
"RESOLUTION APPROVING THE TAX INCREMENT PLAN TO THE NORTH ARER REDEVELOPMENT ARER
AND FILING A PROJECT APPLICATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY".
UPON A VDICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. .
Mr. Commers stated that if it has not already been done, he would like to have
the "Report on Statutory Conditions of a Redevelopment District (273.73, SUB. 10),
Exhibit A" be made as an exhibit to the Redevelopment Plan and Tax Increment Plan.
The market value analysis of Curt Larson should be attached and appended to
HOUSING & REDEUELOPMENT AUTHORITY PUBLIC HEARING MEETING, NOVEMBER 79, 1981
PAGE 11
Exhibit A and made a part of that document. He would also like Mr. Boardman's
four-page work-up on assessed and fair market values for 1980 and 1981 be made
an exhibit to the 7ax Increment Plan. The minutes of this meeting should also
become part of the package.
ADJOURNMENT:
Chairperson Commers declared the November 19, 1981, Housing & Redevelopment
Authority Public Nearing meeting adjourned at 9:40 p.m,
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RESPECTFULLY SU MITTED,
L7CQ,
Lyn� Sa a
Recording Secretary
,
PUIiLIC HEARING
E3EFORE THE
PLAPIP�ING COMMI55ION
NOTICE is'hereby9�ven that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning
Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue
Rartheast on Wednesday, December 9, 1981 in the Council Chamber at 7:30 p.m.
for the purpose of:
' Consideration of a Proposed Preliminary Plat,
P,S. #8i-04, by Suburban Engineering, Inc.,
Innsbruck North Townhouses Plat 7, being a
replat of Blocks 1> 3, 4 and 5, and oart of Lot 1,
Block 10, of Innsbruck P�orth Townhouses
Plat 5, because the construction didn't
follow the lot lines as platted.
6enerally located between West Bavarian Pass
and West Brenner Pass N.E., North of I.694.
Any aiid all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an oppartunity at the
above stated time and place.
RICNARD H. HARRIS
CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COh1MISSION
Publish: November 25, 1981
December 2, 1981
MAILING LIST
P:S. �i81-04, Replat of Blocks 1, 3,
Innsbruck North Townhouses Plat 5 to
by 5uburban Engineering, Inc.
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PLANNING COMMISSION November 24, 1981
CITY COUNCIt
4, 5, and Lot 1, Block 10,
Innsbruck North Townhouses Plat 7
(only people affected by this chanqe were notified of this meeting)
Mr. & Mrs. Earle Christenson
1643 Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley; Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Robert Werner
1639 Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Owner
1635 Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Patricia Magers
1633 Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Jeanne M. Melius
1637 Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Bonnie Jacobson
1642 Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
* Mr. & Mrs. Harold Bergquist
1631 Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Thomas Bergquist
1631 Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Tim Olson
1627 Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Daniel Cook:& Linda Kramer
1623 Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Patrick Niesen
1621 Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 �
Donna Stevens
1625 Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Henry 41ong
1629 Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Arthur D. and Jonie E. Jallo �'��,r/�
5q35 West Brenner Pass N.E. 1�^
,9't`-'�`� 7)� SS'Y3�/
Mr. & Mrs. Frank Olson
5431 4Jest Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mrt 55432
Thomas W. Buctlner & Paula J. Eide
5427 4Jest Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. David Newman
5425 West Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Johnny C. Chotii and �ianine L. Quach
5429 West Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Connie Jean Hanson
5433 41est Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Larry Spitz
5423 West Brenner Pass N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Suburban Engineering, Inc.
6875 Highwag #65 N.E.
Fridley, h1n 55432
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(/�'' CITY OF K��Q�-EY�
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SUBJtCT
ZONING ACTION
VACATION
PLAT
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ORDINANCE NO_______ PUBLISHED
ADDRESS
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PLANNING COP1MISSION: APPROVED DISAPPROVED_ DATE ��i�P � NO
� 15T READ 2ND READ
CIl'Y COUNCIL: PUBLIC HEARTI�G DATE • NO
CITY COUaCIL: APPROVED_ DISAPPROVED_ DATE
PARK FEE REQUIRED: _'��—
AMOUNT PAID
+ STIPL'LATIONS:
FEE�� �J RECEIPT NO �8�d
STREET LOCATION OF PROPERiY il�i iiA�J��'t�N `�A�� �
LE6Al DESCRIPTI0�1 OF PROPERTY 1.K I ��-
FICA7ION ' � EXISTING USE OF
Cn1
PROPERTY
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PRESENT ZONING CLASSI ._.r--
ACREAGE OF PROPERTY_�, DESCRIBE B� FLY THE PROPOS�ED ZdNIi�G CLASSIFICAT����
df 2-''Z�i,��%� .�?r� 7% -�°-""✓.,.,-e-�'
OR TYPE OF USE AND IMPROV��ENT PROPOSED__�.�
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Nas the present applican, previously sou9ht to rezone,
plat, obtain a lot `P�tnor
variance or special use p°rmit on he subject site or part of it�� Ye����
What vias requested and when? � �� �-"� �L�' �'�
The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of all residents and owners of proPer-
ty within 350 feet must be attached to this application. (b) This application must
be signed by all owners of the property, or an explanation given whY this is not
the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings resulting Trom the
failure to list the nar�es and addresses of all residents and property o«�ners of pro-
perty in question, bzlongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the
follo»in9:, 1. North directioo�osed st�ructu�e,�andrfrontdandrsidersetbacks,lot.
3. Dimensians of property, p P
4. Street names. 5. Location and use of adjaCent existin9 build�ings (tiaithin 3
feet).
The undersigned hereby declares that all the;'� cts and r resentations stated in
tliis applic tion are true and correct. ;��
DAiE �� S �_ SIGNATUR ��
_ � i PPLICANT
� ;i� TELEPHONE NO
ADDRESS �9F 7S�`�,�y�� �____�_-- �
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�i � UBURBAN
❑ NGINEERING
INC.
��� Civil, Municipaf & Enoironmentai Engineering
�❑ Land Suroeying • Larsd PJanning • Soit Testing
TO: City of Fridley Planning
6431 University Ave. N.E
Fridley, MN 55432
571•6066 �
6875 Highway No. 65 N. E.
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55432
890-6510
1101 Cliff Road
Burnsville, Minnesota 55337
November 5, 1981
Commission
FROM• Suburban Engineering, Inc.
6875 Iiwy. 65 N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
SUBJECT� Replatting of a portion of Innsbruck North
Townhouses Plat S
The reason for the replat is that the buildings were laid
out and constructed wrong by the builder. The building
doesn't follow the lot lines as platted thereby creating
a need for the replat.
Suburban Engineering, inc., has agreed to handle this re-
plat for Darrel A. Farr Development Corp. and therefore
has signed the application because of this agreement and
also because the present owners are not at fault and were
not the owners at the time oP the mistake.
Sincerely,
SUBURBAN EN�INEERING, INC.
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H. William
HWR/cls
Rogers, L.S.
Ro6ert Minder, Reg. Eng. E.A. Rathbun, Reg. Surv. Wm. E. Price, Re9. Erg. Gary R. Harns, Reg. Suru. Peter J Malinoro, Reg. Eng.
Wm. E. Jensen, Reg. E�g. WiPiam J. Brezinsky, Re9. Erg. H. William Rogers, Reg. Surv. B�ute A. Paterson. Reg. Eng. Daniel P. Johnson, Reg. Eng.
Kim W WaldaJ, Reg. Eng. koben Sikith, Aeg. Suru Perer d Knaeble, Reg. Eng.
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It is bereby certified that the undersi�ed has registered an intent to create a
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this building o� any dwelling unit thecein or pectaining to the opecation thezeof has
bcen issued, or is presently outstanding whic`h has not been fully corplied with, to
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 9, 1981
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Harris called the December 9, 1981, Planning Commission meeting
to order at 7:42 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Mr. Harris, Mr. Saba, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Svanda, Ms. van Dan,
Ms. Hughes (for Mr. Kondrick)
Members Absent: Mr. Oquist
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Bill Rogers, 3126 - 8th Ave. No., Anoka
Don Bene, 5830 Monroe St. N.E.
Dan Cook, 1623 Brenner Pass N.E.
Frank & Lois Olson, 5431 West Brenner Pass N.E.
Bob & Gayle Werner, 1639 Brenner Pass N.E.
Vince Forystek, ]301 S.E. 6th St.
Dennis Schneider, City Councilman
APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 78, 1981, PLANNING COh�1ISSI0N MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. VAN DAN� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO APPROVE TXE NOVEMBER 18� 1981�
PLANNING COMMISSZON MINUTES RS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S. #81-04, BY
RB N EN6INEERI G, INC., INNSBRUCK NORTH T H USES P 7: For
Darre arr Corporation, eing a replat of Blocks 1, 3, 4 and 5, and Lot 1,
Block 1Q, Innsbruck North Townhouses Plat 5, because the construction
didn't follow the lot lines as platted, generally located north of I.694
between West Bavarian Pass and West Brenner Pass N.E.
MOTION BY MS. HUGHES� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO OPEN THE PUBLZC HEARING ON
P.S. iI81-04 BY SUBURBAN ENGINEERZNG� INC.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLRRED THE PUBLIC HEARING
OPEN AT 7:45 P.M.
Mr. Boardman stated this is a replat of Plat 5. Because the structures that
were bui7t did not necessarily fal7 within the plat line, they are now getting
the structures and plat lines all lined up. This type of thing happens quite
often where the plat is actually the building itself. He stated Mr. Rogers from
Suburban Engineering was in the audience to answer any questions.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 9, 1981 PAGE 2
Mr. Rogers stated that, as Mr. Boardman had explained, when the building was
built, they overstaked the building line so that the plat lines and the
building lines do not line up, so this is just a request for a replat.
Mr. Dan Cook, 1623 Brenner Pass N.E., stated he owns Lots 3 and 11, which is
Block 3 of Plat 5. He asked what affect the replat would have on the member-
ship in the Townhouse Association. This is creating a new Plat 7 which is not
officially recognized in the bylaws of the Association as being a part of the
Association. By creating a new plat, are all the people involved in Plat 7
no longer a part of the Association?
Mr. Rogers stated he could address that question. He stated he had heard that
Mr. Farr and the County want to change it back to a replat of P�at 5. They
would not call it Plat 7. It would be ca7led Innsbruch North Replat 5, so
that would take care of Mr. Cook's concern.
Mr. Cook asked what affect the replat would have on everyone as far as the
cost to individual homeowners, such as filing fees, surveys, abstracts, title
insurance on the houses, etc. It was his concern that the homeowners not get
stuck with any fees.
Mr. Boardman stated that as far as he knew, all this is being handled by Mr. Farr.
However, he suggested Mr. Cook get in touch with Mr. Farr to clarify that.
Mr. Cook stated it would be nice to have something in writing from the Farr
Corporation that says they will bear the entire cost of this.
Mr. Harris stated that could be a stipulation on the recommendation of the
replat.
Mr. Frank Olson, 5431 West Brenner Pass N.E., stated their garage is a foot off,
so that will probably be considered when it is resurveyed. He stated that when
they bought their house, the banker suggested they hold some money back in
escrow, because they may have trouble selling the house. He asked if the home-
owners will be notified when this matter is cleared up so they can give Mr. Farr
the money.
Mr. Boardman suggested the homeowners keep in touch with Mr. farr. Once this
passes the City of Fridley, the �arrel Farr Corporation will be responsible for
recording the replat at the County, and the City does not know when that is
recorded.
MOTION BY MR�..SABA� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO CL0.SE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
P.S. �81-04 BY SUBURBAN ENGINEERING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLRRED THE PUBLIC HERRING
CL0.SED RT 7:52 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 9, 1981 PAGE 3
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SVANDA, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THE
APPROVAL OF THE CONSIDERATION OF R PRELIMSNRRY PLAT, P.S. �81-04� BY SUBURBAN
ENGINEERING� INC.� INNSBRUCK NORTH TOWNHOUSSS REPLAT S,FOR DARREL FARR CORPORA-
TIONp BEING A REPLAT OF BLOCKS 1� 3� 4 AND 5� RND LOT Z� BLOCK 20, INNSBRUCK
NORTH TOWNHOUSES PLRT 5, BECRUSE THE CONSTRUCTION DID NOT FOLLOW THE LOT LINES
AS PLATTED� GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF I.694 BETWEEN WEST BAVARIAN PASS AND
WEST BRENNER PASS N.E.� WITH THE STIPULATION THAT ALL THE EXPENSES INCURRED
BE BORN BY THE DARREL FARR CORPORATION.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHRIRMRN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMQUSLY.
Mr. Harris stated that P.S. #81-04 would go to City Council on Jan. 11. He
recomnended that all interested parties be in attendance at that meeting.
2. DISCUSSION
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Mr. Boardman stated that the Darrel Farr Corporation has withdrawn their appli-
cation for a 7icense to create a conversion con$ominium.
Ms. Gabe7 stated
for the City to
City.
this is just the beginning, and she felt that now was the time
undertake a study to determine what the rental market is in the
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL TXAT
THE CITY UNDERTAKE A STUDY TO DETERNINE THE RVAILABILISY OF RENTAL HOUSING IN
THE CITY RND HOW CONDOMINIUM CONVERSION MIGHT AFFECT IT.
Ms. Gabel stated she felt that the City does not know what the impact is going
to be on the people who cannot afford to buy houses. Where are they going to go?
Ms. Hughes stated it seemed to her that condo conversion may be the only way
some people can own a house in the near future. In that case, it may be some-
thing they will want to encourage. Conversion would certainly take some potential
apartments out of the low and moderate income rental, if indeed the units are
low and moderate income rental. She thought they have to encourage the saving
of rental property that is for low and moderate incomes.
Mr. Harris stated there are some definite advantages to condo conversion, even
though most people look at the negative side. He stated it is probably the only
way some low and moderate income people are going to be able to afford a housing
unit, if it is a reasonable cost. From the City's standpoint, there are some
advantages built into owner-occupied units. People who own their own unit
usually have more pride, and there would probably be less problems as far as
vandalism and some of the other problems that go a7ong with apartment complexes.
There is generally also a higher tax base.
Ms. Hughes stated it is not only just families involved, there are also single
adults who cannot afford to buy houses.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 9, 1981 PAGE 4
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
3. PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOODS AND NAMES FOR USE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD SIGN PROGRAM:
Mr. Soardman stated there has always been a push to try to develop a more
neighbarhood-oriented or city-oriented type of feeling in Fridley. The first
step was with the bikeway systems; the next step was looking at neighborhoods
and neighborhood parks and the relationship between the neighborhoods and the
park facilities. He stated that a lot of time Fridley residents do not associate
with Fridley and with the community. The use of neighborhood signs is an attempt
at developing a community-type of spirit.
Mr. Boardman stated all the street signs in the City are being converted so that
all street signs will have the Fridley logo. He stated the neighborhood signs
would probably be located under the street signs by the key neiqhborhoods. It
shouldn't be too expensive as the City does all its own signage.
Ms. Gabel stated the idea of a cor�nunity feeling was great, but she did not
think signs were going to make that feeling happen. It also seemed like a waste
of money.
Mr. Harris stated he also kind of liked the idea. He thought the things the
Commission objected to the most was the co7or (red, white, and blue) and the
current City logo.design.
Mr. Svanda stated he would want to know the actual cost of making these signs.
Because of the money crunch, the City should be somewhat conscious of what thin9s
cost.
Mr. Harris agreed that the Planning Commission should know the cost of the
neighborhood signs, the cost to change over all the street signs, the approxi-
mate locations of the neighborhood signs, and what job a city employee would be
taken off in order to do this signage.
Mr. Boardman stated he would get that information for the Commission.
Mr. Svanda stated he totally objected to the whole idea. Even if the cost is
only $50, he felt it was a waste of money.
Ms. Nughes stated she felt the concept had some value. 7here are some very
identifable neighborhoods and everyone is consistent in the use of those names,
such as Hyde Park, Sylvan Hills, Innsbruck North, Riverview Heights, etc.
But, she did not think that was true for the whole city and places where there
is a controversy on names. As the Parks and Recreation Commission tries to
encourage the use of neighborhood parks, they do name and refer to some of
these areas by the name of the parks, which may not be the best way of identifying
some of these areas. Maybe it would be good to establish some kind of use of
neighborhood names.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETTN6 DECEMBER 9, 1981 PAGE 5
Mr. Saba stated he could see a lot of value in neighborhood identification,
but he also did not know if neighborhood signs was the way to go about it.
Ms. Hughes stated that, referring to the two options included in the agenda,
she preferred Option 2. In Option 2, her neighborhood was Terrace Park and
Meadowlands, which is the way that neighborhood naturally divides.
Mr. Harris stated he also preferred Option 2.
Regarding the current City logo design, Mr. Saba suggested they have a city-
wide contest in order to come up with a new city logo.
MOTION BY MS, HUGHES� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THAT
THE CITY RUN A CONTEST IN ORDER TO DEVEIAP A NEW CITY LOGO.
Ms. Hughes stated a contest would help develop a sense of community.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED TNE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
4. RECEIVE NOVEMBER 5, 1981, HUMAN RESOURGES C�MMISSION MINU7ES:
MOTION BY MS. VAN DAN� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO RECEIVE THE NOVEMBER 5� 1985�
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MSNUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRMAN HRRRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
5. RECEIVE N04EMBER l0, 1981, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTSON BY MS. HIIGHES, SECONDED BY hII2. SABA, TO RECETVE THE NOVEMBER I0, Z98I�
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYEi CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED SHE MOTZON CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
6. RECEIVE NOVEMBER 12, 1981, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. VAN DAN� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECEIVE THE NOVEMBER Z2� I981i
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
7. RECEIVE NOVEMBER 17, 1981, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS, GABEL� SECONDED BY MR, SVANDA� TO RECEIVE THE NOVEMBER I7� 1981�
APPEALS COMMIS570N MINUTES.
UPON R VOICE VOATE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMRN HRRRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 9, 1981 PAGE 6
8. RECEIUE NOVEMBER 17, 1981, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTIDN BY MR. SVANDA, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO RECEIVE THE NOVEMBER 27� 2982�
ENVIRONMENTAL QURLITY COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANZMOUSLY.
9. RECEIVE NOVEMBER 19, 1981, HOUSING &
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR. GABEL, TO RECEIVE THE NOVEMBER 19, 1982,
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMEN2 AUTHORITY PUBLIC HEARING MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
l�. OTHER BUSINESS:
Mr. Harris stated the continuing problem with massage parlours in the City has
6een called to his attention. Ne stated he fe]t the Planning Commission should
reconsider and discuss again the section in the Zoning Code regarding massage
parlours and discuss the possibility of specifical7y laying out an area or
standards by which they can control the location of massage parlours. He would
like the Planning Commission members to think about it and they could discuss it
at a future meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTIOP BY MR. SRBA� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO ADTOURN THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHA212MRN HARRIS DECLARED THE DECEMBER 9� 2981�
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADSOURNED AT 9:58 P.M.
RESPECTFULLY SUB TTED,
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