PL 07/08/1981 - 30560CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JULY 8, 1981
CALL TO ORDER:
Cha.i.rman Harris called the July 8, 1981, Planning Commission
meeting to order at 7s30 p.m.
ROLL CALL a
Members Present: Mr. Harris, Ms. van Dan� Ms. Gabel, Mr. Oquist,
Mr. Kondrick, Mr. �ichosz, (for Mr. �a�a)
M embers Absente
Others Present:
Richard Svanda
Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROVAL OF NNE ,�, 1981, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES�
Motion by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to approve the
June 3, 1981� Plaxmning Commission Minutes as written.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED
THE MOTION CRRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. VACATION REQUEST, SAV
10 0. NO FEE e
`�81-02, BY PE�'ITION #3�1981
Yacate a . alley easement in Block 19, Fridley Park
Addition, located between 612 and 62nd Way N.E. on the
east side of East River Road.
M r. Boardman stated that this was petitioned, and that there
was 100f agreement, so that the City would waive the normal
fee.
Mr. Harris questioned, if the City would reta.in an easement?
Mr. Boardman stated that yes, the City would retain a.n._util�ity and
drainage easement. He further stated that t{iere are �hree types of al'4eys:
A. An alley that is fully surfaced, and maintained.
B. An alley that is not surfaced, but used
C. An alley that is dedicated but not used.
M r. Boardman stated that this alley is in the third category�
and that the City's policy� is that if there is 100� agreement
to vacate such an alleyway, that the City would waive the
usual fee• and retain utility-drainage easements.
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MOTION, by M s. van Dan, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to recommend
to the City Council approval of Vacation Request, SAV #81-02, �",�
By Petition #3-1981 (100f , NO FEE ): Vacate a 12 ft. a11ey _
easement in Block 19, Fridley Park Addition, located betweeen
61z and 62nd Way N.E. on the east side of East River Road, with
the stipulation that the City reta.in the 12 foot utility-
drainage easement.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: NNE 4, 1�81
MOTION by Ms. van Daxi, seconded by Mr. Oquist to approve the
Ju—n�, 1981 Human Resources Commission minutes.
M s. van Dan stated that the Commission had set there goals, and
that at the up coming meeting scheduled for the 16th of July,
they would be evaluating the requests for funding.
M s. Gabel questioned what the scoring sheet used to evaluate
funding was like?
M s. van Dan stated that she was sorry she didn't have a copy
with her but outlined the scoring sheet, and it's function.
She stated that there is a list of criteria, such as a reasonable
request acco rdin to their total budget requirements, such as �
if they request �5,000.00 and their total budget is $150,000.00
that would be reasonable, versus if they were to request their
total budget. Also she stated that another category would be
how the money was to be used� as would it be used to service
the City of Fridley, or used to expand the administrative
part, and also how many people in Fridley would be receiving
the service. Another criteria, is, could this service be
provided by some other group either within the City or within
the County. or within a reasonable distance. She further stated
that by using this scoring sheet of funding request criteria,
the Commission is able to give each funding request a numerical
scoring by which they can then prioritize the requests, that
would be then submitted to the City Council. She stated that
the following groups have requested fundin a
a. Central Center for Family Resources -�5, a00. 00
b. Family Life Center Foundation -$5,000.00
c. Anoka County Community Ac�tion - Well Senior Citizen Clinic $2,000.00
d. Creative Play Center - $5,000.00
e. SouthernAnoka County Community Assistance Progra.m -$2,500.00
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON HARRIS� DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINtJTESs NNE �, 1 81
MOTION by Ms. Gabel � seconded by Mr. Oquist, to approve the �`
Appeals Commi.ssion Minutes of June 9, 1981 -
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M r. Harris questioned what happened with the request by
� Mr. Bruce Nedegaard, for a pool in the front yard, because
he wondered if they had set a precedent.
M s. Gabel stated that no they had not set precedent, because
the pool would not be in the front yard. She stated that it is
called the front yard, because it is the narrow side of the
lot, but that it would actually be located in the back
Mr. Harris questioned what the status was on the 40 foot lots?
M r. Boardman stated that it was still in court, at this time.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS� DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
�. RECEIVE COMNNNITY DEVELOPMENT CONlMISSION MINUTESa JUNE ,�, 1981
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. van Dan, to approve the
Community Development Commission mi.nutes, of June 9, 1981.
Mr. Oquist stated that the pupose of' the Commission was discussed
at the last meeting, and that they will look to the City Council
for direction, and that they are looking at Block Grants, and
at Community Housing.
Mr. Harris stated that he is concerned about the use of Industrial
�"1 Revenue Bonds, in regards as to the way some of Fridley's sister
Community's are using them to lure business's away from Fridley.
He stated that one particular incident he was aware of, had�
concerned him, but his real concern was that this was not an
isolated incident. He stated that within the last week he learned
that Fridley will lose a 50,000 square foot building, and about
125 jobs due to some shananagins by Coon Rapids.
Mr. Boardman questioned if this business had approached the
City of Fridley with an Industrial Revenue Bond request.
Mr. Harris stated that this person told him that he had� but
that the City wanted $5,000.00 first, to start the process.
Mr. Boardman stated that what the City requires is usually
$��,000 as a deposit to begin the process, but that this money
is used to cover administrative cost. That amount not used is returned to
the petitioner.
Mr. Harris stated that he felt that the City should look into
this area and see how the people that request an Industrial
Revenue Bond are handled� and look at the process. He further
stated that Coon Rapids, had also stated that they would do
some gymnastics with the taxes, to attra.ct business their way.
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Mr. Harris stated that this particular type of tactics disturbs
him.very much. because the City of Fridley is losing these
business's and these jobs, plus the revenue it generates. and
the tax base.
�Ir. Boardman questioned where this business that Mr. Harris was
referrring to was located.
l�r. Harris stated that it was Advanced Machine, and they are
located on Beech Street. He further atated that they had
out grown their facility. and had some problems buildin� on
at that location, they were then going to build in the Paco
Industrial area and had already purchased land just north of
Frito-Lay. He stated that if Fridley's sister communities
are raiding the City's industrial base, that disturbs him
very much. and if this indeed is happening� he felt that the
Planning Commiasion. the City Council. and the staff. should
have some discussions with the legislature• because that was
not the intent for the Industrial Revenue Bond.
Discussion ensued concern3ng Industrial Revenue Bonds.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED U�lNIMOUSLY.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist. seconded by Ms. Gabel, to approve the
Housing and Redevelopment Authorty Miriutes of June 11. 1981.
M s. Gabel stated that on page 10 under Large Family Project�
she wondered what happened to the comments of the people in
Hyde Park not wanting.anymore houses on sub-standard lots, and
that she had a problem with this.
Mr. Boardman atated that was not going to be taking place at
all because the City was not able to acquire the 10 feet that
they wanted.
M s. Gabel questioned if they had anymore lots in the Hyde Park
area that they were looking at?
Mr. Boardman �tated that they have one 60 foot lot on 3rd Street.
M s. Gabel stated that she had some calls wonder�ing about
hou�e that was being built now, that some people thought
garage was larger than the house. but when ahe drove by
realized that the house is being built on one lot and a
large garage is being built at the sa.me time on the lot
to the house. She questioned if the lot was sufP3cient
a garage?
M r. Hoardman stated that yes it was large enough.
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Mr. Harris stated that on page 3, there was a list of items
that Mr. Remmen was requesting from the City. and of that list
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he questioned item �7. to what the City was saying to Mr. Remmen?
n' Mr. Boardman stated that all the City is saying is that he has
the aseurance that the property ie zoned properly for the type
of development that he is looking at.
M s. Gabel questioned what land subordination meant?
Mr. 8oardman etated that is meant that the purchaser agrees to
purchase property from the HRA. but that he would want to delay
payment on the land sale. but in order For him to get financing
he must have title to the property, so that the City therefore
eubordinates title to the property.
M�. Gabel questioned whether Mr. Boardman had talked to the
people in Holly Center?
Mr. Boardman stated that they had a meeting of Rice Plaza/Phase III tenants on
May 12th, but have made no direct contact with Holy Center since we will not
be involved in Holly Center acquisition.
IIPON A VOICE VO'PE ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRKAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOU SLY.
6� RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY CONIl►�lISSION MINUTES e J[1NE16. 1981
,� MOTION by Mr. Oquist � seconded by l�r. Kondrick to receive the
En irov'�nmental Quality Commission Minutes of June 16. 1981.
M r. Kondrick stated that on page 2 the fourth paragraph� regarding
the North Crosstown� he questioned how far north would that
be from Springbrook Nature Center?
Mr. Boardmari stated that would be about 4 of a mile North of
Springbrook.
Discussion ensued regarding the North�Croestown.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON HARRISS. DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
?. RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTESi JUNE 1�� 1981
MOTION by Ms. van Dan� seconded by �ir. Oquist to receive the
Parks & Recreation Commission minutes� dated June i?. 1981.
Mr. Kondrick stated that on page ? of the IDinutes under Title 9�
that there was a problem that arose because of boys piaying on
the �irls eoftball team. He stated that parents had complained
that with boys on the girla teams. that it was an unfair advantage
to the girle because the boys were stronger. but that with
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Title 9 which requires equal opportunity for lmys and �rls.
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that this created a problem, that they are still working on.
M r. Kondrick stated that regarding the Hillwind Drive area.
the City Council had passed a moratorium on this, so that
the Park & Recreation Commission then tabled it for one year.
Discussion ensued on the water problems in that area.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, �iiLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTION PASSED IIN,ANIMOUSLY.
8. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: JUNE_2 , 1 8�
MOTION by Ms. Gabel. seconded by Mr. Koadrick, to receive the
Appeals Commission minutes . dated June 23. 1981.
M s. Gabel stated that she did not have a copy with her� but
that there is a Minnesota State Statute� that states that
the inability to use solar heat, would create a haxdship• in
considering the granting of a variance.
Ms. Gabel questioned what was determined as far as windmills?
Mr. Boardman stated that to erect a windmill. would require
a special use permit.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL YOTING AYE� CHAIR�dAN HARRIS� DECLARED �,
THE MOTION PASSED IINANIMOUSLY.
S. RECEIVE ENERGY COMD6ISSION MINUTES e.NNE 23. ].981
MOTIOAI by Mr. Cichosz � seconded by Ms. Gabel � to receive the
En re g Commission minutes. dated June 23, i981•
M r. Cichosz, stated that they had elected a new chairperson
Mr. Saba, and that he Mr. Cichosz was elected as the vice-
chairperson.
Mr. Kondrick wondered if the City of Fridley offered an energy
audit service to homeowners?
M r. Boardmari stated that no the City did not but that homeowners
could contact either NSP. or Minnegasco for an energy audit.
M r. Harris stated that NSP also has a program that a person could
reinsulate and retrofit a house, and NSP would finance it.
UPON A YOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED THE
MOTION PASSED UANIMOUSI,Y.
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10. ELECTION OF YICE-CHAIRPERSON FOR PLANNING COMMISSION
Chairman Harris declared that nominations were opened.
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Ms. Gabel stated that she nominates Mr. Oquist for the vice-
chairperson.
M(irTION_ by Ms. Gabel. seconded by Mr. Kondrick to close the
nominations.
UPON A YOICE YOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRNiAN HARRIS DECI.ARED
THE NOMINATIONS CLOSED.
Chairman Harris called for a voice vote on the nomination of
Mr. Oquist for the vice-chai.rinanship.
UPON A YOICE VOTE� AI�L VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED
MR. OQUIST EI�ECTED AS THE PLANNING COMI�ISSION VICE-CHAIRMAN.
11. OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Boardman stated that the City Council� had been looking at
the policy of trucks in the city's residential areas. He stated
that there is now ordinances that state that heavy trucks can
not �ark for more than four hours in a residential area, or on
public streets.
Mr. Boardman stated that the City Council also will be sending
,.� back to the Planning Commission the definition on mother-in-law
apartments for further clarification.
Mr. Harris questioned Mr. Boardman what the City Council did
not like about the reconmoendations that the Planning Commission
had sent them regarding the mother-in-law apartments?
Mr. Boardman etated that he :would outline a clearer direction from the
City Council regarding this at the next meeting.
Mr. Harris stated that the Planning Commission would need more
specifics, and direction on what areas the City Council would
like them to review regarding the mother-in-law apartments.
MOTION by Ms. Gabel, seconded byfl�s. van Dan to change the
next scheduled Planning Commission meeting from July 22nd�
to July 29th.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL YOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED
THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
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MOTION by Ms. Gabel, seconded by Mr. Oquist to adjourn, the
meeting. �
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALI, YOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECI,ARED THE
JIII�� 8th, 1981 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8e55 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Elaine R. Reed
Recording Secretary
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