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PL 05/05/1982 - 6775PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CALL TO ORDER: ROLL CALL: City of fridley AGEN�A WEDNESDAY, MAY 5, 1982 APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: APRIL 21, 1982 l. PUBLIC HEARIIJG: CONSIDERAT 7:30 P.M. PAGES 1-9 T. 10 - 18 Y.J, if2SL-UI WIT/l9tLLIVtK HW111UIV 15r W.�. UVn f+rvu unrc� w«�- NER: Being a replat of that part of Blocks 8 and 9, Lowell Addition, lying South of the North line of Sylvan Hills Plat 8, extended in a Westeriy direction to the West boundary of said Slock 8, and lying Westerly of the plat of Sylvan Hills Plat 8, together with the Eastererly one-half of vacated Elm Street, and that part of Lots land 2, Block 7, Lowell Addition to Fridley Park, lying Southerly of the Westerly extension of the North 9ine of of the plat of Sylvan Hills Plat 8, tobether with the Westerly half of vacated Elm Street, to be developed as three R-1 lots, (single family dwelling areas) and 5 R-2 lots, (two family dwelling areas). Generally located South of Mississippi St. PJ.E.> East of the Burlington Northern right-of-way. 2. R€CEIVE C�MMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES: APRIL 13, 1982 3. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: APRIL 20, 1982 4 5 RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: APRIL 27, 1982 OTHER BUSINESS: ADJOURNMENT: PINK BLUE YELLOW NOTICE is hereby given Commission of the City Northeast on Wednesday, the purpose of: 10 PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING CONEAISSION ihat there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue May 5, 1982 in the Council Chamber at 7:3� p.m. for Consideration of a Proposed Preliminary Plat, P.S. #82-�1, Doty/Wellner Addition, by W.6. Doty and Gary Wellner, being a replat of that part of Blocks 8 and 9, Lowell Addition, lying South of the North line of Sylvan Hills Plat 8, extended in a Westerly direction to the West boundary of said Block 8, and lying Westerly of the plat of Sylvan Hills Plat 8, together with the Easterly one-half of vacated Elm Street, and that part of Lots 1 and 2, Block 7, Lowell Addition to Fridley Park, lying Southerty of the Westerly extension of the North line of the plat of Sylvan Hills Plat 8, together with the Westerly half of vacated Elm Street, to be developed as three R-1 lots� (single family dwelling areas) and 5 R-2 lots, (two family dwelling ereas). Generally located South of Mississippi Street N.E., East of the Burlington Northern right-of- way. Anyone desiring to be heard with reference to the above matter may be heard at this meeting. VIRGINIA SCHNABEL CHAIRWOMAN PLANNIN6 COMMISSION Publish: April 21, 1982 April 28, 1982 �.� . G%`- j � ;'y..- .. CITY Cr �RIDLEY� � SIJBJECT �a�'1 UNIVEFiSITY AVE. IJE. FLII�LGY� MN. fi543H (G:2] 57�-345� ZQNING ACTIOfJ VACATION PLAT 11 ZOA # SAV # PS #_- a� �� -GJ,�% `.�`°`� � ' ORDINANCE NO PUBLISHED ADDRESS DATE PLANidING COMMISSIOPd: APPROVED, DISAPPROVED DA7E NO CI7Y COUNCIL: PUBLIC YEARiP;G DATE 1ST READ 2ND REA�� CITY C011iJCIL: APPROVED_ DISAPPROVED DATE �� PARK FEE REQUIRED: AMOUNT PAID STIPULATIQNS: NAME n�'*v�"'i/ ��L/l�. A� FEE �� f RECEIPT fd0 �� STREET LOCATION OF PROPERTY �` ��"� ,�.�c i ��'� LEGAL DESCRIPT14N OF P PRESENT ZOI�ING CLA55IF1CATION�(Y �I EXISTING USE OF PROPERTY ?J �� ._ AGREAGE QF PROPERTY DESCRIBE SRIEFLY THE PROPOSED ZONING CLASSIFICATION OR Tl'PE OF USE AND IhiPROVEME�T PROPOSED ��""� , S—� �' �" Has the present applicant previousiy sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split ar variance or special use permit o the subject sit�/e or part of it? �es _no. What r;as requested and when?_��_� �T ��, %�l � l The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of all residents and owner�s of proper- ty within 350 feet must be attached to this application. (b) This application must be signed by all owners of the property, or an explanation given whY this is not the case, (c} Responsibility for any defect in the proceedinys resulting `rom the failure to list the names and addresses of all residents and property owners of pro- perty ir questio.n, belongs to the undersigned. A sketcii of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the folTowing: 1, t�orth direction. 2. Location of proposed str�cture on the lot. 3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front ard side setbackso 4. Street names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 350 feet). The undersigned hereby deciares that a1Z the facts and representations stated in th DA AD 12 Legal Description Lots 1 and 2, Block 7, Lowell Addition to Fridley Park lying Southerly of the Westerly extension of the North line of Sylvan Hills Plat 8, together with the Westerly half of vacated Elm Street, and that part of Blocks 8 and 9, Lowell Addition to Fridley Park, lying South of the North line of Sylvan Hills Plat 8, lying Westerly of the Plat of Sylvan Hills Plat 8, and the Easterly 1/2 of vacated Elm Street. . , , 1981 POLICY STATEMENT ON PARK FEES ON LAND SUBOIVISION Date 13 In determining fair market value of public areas for land subdivision for cash payment, as required by Ordinance 633, the following values will be used: Residential subdivision �i,�Q0.00 per lot Residential lot split �500.00 per lot Commercial/Irdustrial subdivision or lot splits � 0.015 per sq. ft. This fee is to be paid at the time of final plat or lot split approval. The City Council may defer collection to the time a 6uilding permit is requested for individual lots created by such subdivision/lot split. The City retains the option to accept an equivalent amount in cash from the applicant for part or all of the portion required to be dedicated. PARK FEE A6REEMENT The undersigned understands that according to the City Platting Crdinance, the following public park land dedication is required to plat reside�tial, commercial or industrial zoned property, Tt is further understood that the public park land dedication or cash equivalent is at the discretion of �e City. D.✓ It is agreed that a cash payment of $ d v, will be paid according above stated policy for the following ubdivision/lot split. payment to the It is agreed that the following land dedication is provided according to the above stated policy for the following subdivision/lot split: Dedication: Subdivision/lot split: The undersigned further agrees to notify all future property owners or assigns of the cash payment requirement, if it is to be collected at the time of building permit. DATE �084A/lOG7A _j,,.., Mailing List � 5. � 5�--� I �� ,��-✓ ZOA #82-01, W. G. Doty and Gary A. Wellafefri Rezone from M-1 to R-2 W. G. Doty and Gary A. l4ellman 6379 University Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Michael Dennis & Mary Lowry 6373 Ashton Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & t4rs. Lloyd Pound 6471 Ashton Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Edward Shaffer. 645i Ashton Avenue td. E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Nicola$ Zroka 6435 Ashton Avenue N.E. Fridley� MN 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Leonard Larson 0425 Ashton Avenue P�.E. Fridley. Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Edward Ahrens 198 Mercury drive N.E. Fridley. Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Duane Jorgenson 288 Mercury Drive N.E. Fridley� Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Jerald Severt 100 Satellite Lane N.E. Fridley. Mn 55432 Mr. Ralph Messer 114 Satellite Lane N.E. fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Alf Lee 130 Satellite Lane N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 hir. & Mrs. Harold Lovrien 160 Satellite Lane N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 `t� J-� �Y1 A- Planning Cortmission 2!9/82 City Council j-�- 8�' Mr. Nick Dennis, Jr. 174 Satellite Lane N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. Alvin J. Ricks 161 Sylvan Lane N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. William Zorbey 145 Sylvan Lane N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Raydon Hong 115 Sylvan Lane N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. Pau'1 Scherven . 13T Sylvan �-s Lane N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 P1r. & Mrs. Charles Reid 101 Sylvan Lane N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Emmett Rice 100 Sylvan Lane N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Thomas Hartfiel' 120 Syvan Lane N.E. Frildley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. William Reshetar 140 Sylvan Lane N.E. Fridley, Mn 55�32 Mr. & Mrs. Bill Kleinschmidt 160 Sylvan Lane N.E. Fridley, P1n 55432 �. b Mrs. Edv��rd..At+rens 19�' Mer-�ury Dri ve N. E. �id'fey; -!J� 55432 , �,-`�. Mr. & Mrs. James Fischer 6312 Starlite Blvd. N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Merle Longerbone 180 Sylvan Lane N.E. Frial'ey, Mn 55432 _ ]5 ZOA #82-01 Mai}ing List Paye 2 RAO Manufacturing Co. 200 Mississippi Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Michael J. Larson & Marijane 7essman 6390 Starlite Blvd. N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Arnold Aspenson 6370 Starlite Blvd. N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. ldilliam Kidder 6360 Starlite Blvd. N.E. Fridley, Mn 55�32 Mary Auger 6348 Starlite S1Jd. 4�.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Dennis Johnson 6336 Starlite Blvd. N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Donna Ledin 6324 Starlite Bldd. N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 ^ N �o�a f:en 3 .�. .. ; �.� . � ""` 16 �-� P,S. #82-01 DOTY-WELLN£R ADDITION .+. ..a w STREET MA.P-CiTY OF FRIDLEY� . -- - - - _ __. , _._.--�,_.H:,,�,�.. �� .. �� - �_> P S.�k82-01 Ooty - We11�tn 77 _ :... T — � � . �' �a ! _ � r� '�+ �. � � ,.... � '. : � u '� � ; : � � � � i � � � � , t�-�a � � � � � i � , � � � -- __ ----.-..� � � . 1 � -� _, � , t 1 ,� �� P 1 REALTY WORLD — W. G. Doty Real Estate 6379 University Ave., N.E., Fridiey, MN 55432 Telephone. (612) 571-6441 10J6 W. Co Rd. B.. Roseville, MN 55113 Telephone:(612JA89-8828 Apzil 7, 1982. John F'lora Public Works Director City oY F�idley /�� /��\ t��/ _ ��s ' � •' �, Re: poty�4Te17ner Addition Starlite & Sat�lite Iane Dear Mr. F1ora, We hereby request the City of FY�idley provide street, cul-du-sac, sewer, Water and storm sewer to the above described property. The property has been named Doty�Wellner Addition and the cul-du- eac Starlite Circle. We, Gus Doty and Gary Wel]ner� are 100$ ownere of the property and waive our right to have a public hearing and request that the cost of the street, cvl-du-sac, ser�er, water end storm seF2r be assess- ed equel3y among the eight lots. Sincere],y youra, _ �. \/ � � • Gary Wellner a�Q�✓ fach olfice is independently owned and operaied. � � i��s � _ CITY OF FRIDLEY GOMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 13, 1982 CALL TO ORDER: Acting Chairperson Modig called the April 13, 1982, Community Development Commission meeting to arder at 7:32 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Connie Modig, A1 Gabel, Sharon Gustafson Members Absent: LeRoy Oquist, Kenneth Vos . Others Present: Mary Cayan, Human Resources Assistant Larry Olson, 1909 Rice Creek Road, New Brighton APPROVAL OF MARCH 9 1982, COhA1UNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MR, GABEL� SECONDED BY MS. GUSTAF'SON� 20 APPROVE TXE MARCN 9� 1982� COMMUNITY DEVELOPMSNT COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRSTTEN. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� ACTING CHAIRPERSON MODIG DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 1. NEW BRIGHTON TOWN HALL MEETING: LARRY OLSON, CHAIRPERSON OF . . �� ....:..��rn.i ,-�ni�..a. nnue��+Trr Mr. Olson stated the New Brighton Study Committee is basically a standing ad hoc committee reporting to the City Council, In the last coup7e of years, . they have done some work on a sanitation statute, a study on the need for a second fire hall, and for the last five years have sponsored the New Brighton Town Hall Meeting, which earlier went under the name, "Citizen Leaders' Forum". He stated he has been on the committee for two years. Mr. Olson stated the first couple of years, invitations were sent ma4nly to. the chairpersons and officers of identified leaders in the community, speci- fically, the New Brighton businessmen, League of Women Voters, Jaycees, various civic groups, clergymen, school administrators, members of citizen boards and cortunissions and the City Council, The idea initially was to develop some ties between the City Council and people active on boards and commissions and the other 7eaders in the cormiunity. After a couple of years, that se�ned short- sighted, and the horizons were broadened to also invite anyone in the community to participate. It was this year that they changed the name from "Citizen Leaders' Forum" to "New Brighton Town Hall Meeting", because they wanted to get broader input and get citizen participation into some of the more crucial and exciting decisions made at the city level. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING, APRIC 13, 1982 - PAGE 2 Mr. Olson stated he has attended three of these meetings, The first one he attended had approximately 70 people, the second one had approximately 700 peopie, and this year there were approximately 150 peop7e. He stated he felt the key to a successful meeting was, not so much the publicity, but what is said in the pub]icity in terms of the topics to be discussed, The topics should be relevant, broad enough to elicit discussion, yet narrow enough so they don't get discussion all over the map. The topics should be timely in terms of being well enough developed as an issue so that people understand or have the opportunity to understand what is going on, but yet not so far down the line that the decisions have a7ready been made and it is a sham. Mr. Olson stated the roeeting is held on a Saturday morning from 9:00 to 12:00-12:30 p.m. A presentation is made by the Mayor on the general state of the City followed by the chosen topics. Each Council mem6er makes a 15-20 min. presentation on one of the topics to be discussed. There is a coffee break with coffee and donuts; then they spiit up into sma11 groups on each of the topics. The small group discussions last 45 min. - 1 hr. He stated in the ]ast three years, they have not assigned people to certain groups, which is risky, but they have had quite even distribution. Each Council member is assigned to the group for the topic he/she presented, There is also one staff person and one member from the corronittee attending each of the small group sessions. The Council member is the discussion leader, the staff person is there as the detail expert, and the committee member takes notes and reports back to the committee. After the small group sessions end, they again go back into the large group and merr�ers of the committee make 3-5 minute presentations on re]evant areas that came up in the smatl group discussions. They then open it up for questions to the City Council members. Mr. Olson stated the New Brighton Eagle's Club served a nice luncheon after the meeting. It was open to anyone who participated in the meeting and was free of charge. The luncheon was not pu6licly annouttced, but board and commission members and the City Council were told about the ]uncheon. Mr. Olson stated they still send invitations to 500-600 people, plus the open invitation to the general pub7ic. They publicized through the city newsletter, the New Brighton Bulle�in, and the St. Paul Dispatch-North Suburban section, Ms. Cayan asked how the topics are seiected. Mr. Olson stated the New Brighton Study Committee about a dozen suggested topics. 5taff looks over or against or adds to the list. The list is then and the City Council picks the final topics. Ms. Modig asked how much cost was involved. comes up with the list and presented to a list of recanmends for the City Council, Mr. Olson stated it was probably less than $100 for coffee and donuts. He stated he had no idea how much staff time cost was involved, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 13 1982 - PAGE 3 Ms. Gustafson asked what benefit Mr. Olson felt the meeting was to the community. Mr. Olson stated the goal, as they see it, is to develop a two-way corrrnunica- tion to get more detailed information to the citizens on issues that are facing the City and to get feedback on those issues. That mechanism is already in place for the boards and canmissions; however, it is more focused, so it broadens the base and gives a wider subject area and does invo7ve a significant number of people who otherwise would not participate. He stated that, not this year but in previous years, they used the luncheon as a time to recognTZe volunteers and passed out certificates from the Governor's office to al1 the boards and commission members who served that year. Mr. 01son stated the timing, in terms of when the meeting should be held, is very crucial. They have found the latter part of February/early March is about the best time. • Ms. Modig asked what kind of vehicle is used for feeJback. Are any evaluation sheets handed out? Mr. Olson stated the feedback comes to the Council members during the smal] group discussions and with questions in the large group. He stated there is no formal mechanism. They do pass out evaluation sheets regarding the topics-- were the topics proper, what topics should be considered for further consider- ation, etc.? Mr. Olson stated he would urge the City of Fridley to have a town meeting. Ne stated the investment is not that great. This year they had a student intern wfio spent about 10-15 hrs. putting the whole thing together. He stated there might be an investment on the part of Staff in helping the Council members put their presentations together. If they do give it a try, he would caution them to keep the agenda lean, because everything takes about twice the time it was planned for. The Commission members thanked Mr, Olson for caning and sharing this information, Ms. Gustafson stated she thought the town hall meeting idea was a very interesting concept. Ms. Modig stated maybe they should discuss this with the City Council to see if the City Council is willing to go along with it. Ms, Gustafson stated that before they do that, they should come up with a list of suggested topics and gitie the City Council an idea of what the Comnission is interested in doing. She stated she felt it was certainly time that the Mayor and the Gouncii members were a little more exposed to public view. COMMUNITY DEVECOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 13 1982 - PAGE 4 Ms. Cayan stated that if the Comnission was interested in pursuing this, they should put together an organized proposal on how they would like to handle it and then present that proposal to the City Council at a conference meeting. Maybe during the next couple of Commission meetings, they could put their ideas together to see how they would like to proceed. She stated she would get a list of future City Council conference meeting dates. MOTION BY MR. GABEL� SSCONDED 8Y MS. GUSTAFSON� TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON A POSSIBLE TOWN HALL MEETING AT THE NEXT MEETING. UPON E VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� ACTING CXAZRPERSON MODIG DECLARED TXE MOTSON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. � . 2. NEIGNBORHOOD PROJECT COMMITTEE; SCOPE AND TIMETABLE DEVELOPMEN7 Ms. Cayan stated that on April 5, the City Council concurred with the Commission's recommendation to establish a neighborhood project comnittee to study the neighborhood concept in Fridley, and the City Council directed the . Commission to develop a scope and timetable for the project cortanittee. The City Council has also asked the Commission for suggestions for names of people to appoint to the project corr�nittee and has asked the Commission to make a motion to the Planning Corm�ission so the Planning Commission can get going on their end of it. Ms. Cayan handed out two samples of project committee proposa7s that have been used in the past, Ms, Modig stated the Commission members should give this some thought, and it should be continued until the other Comnission members are present. MOTION BY MR, GABEL� SECONDED BY MS, GUSTRFSON, TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON TXE NEIGXBORHOOD PROJECT COMMITTEE�S SCOPE RND TIMETABLE DEVELOPMENT UNTIL THE NEXT ME&TING. UPON A VOICE VOT&� ALL VOTING RYE, ACTING CHASRPERSON MODIG DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 3. PROPOSED MTC ROUTE CHANGE: Ms. Cayan stated a public hearing will be he7d on Wed „ April 21, at 6:00 p,m. at the American Center Building regarding consolidation of MTC routes in Anoka County. Discussion will include combining routes 10 and 28, maintain- ing rush hour service from Northtown to Minneapolis with shuttles fran Coon Rapids and Blaine to Northtown, less service during non-peak hours, and reducing service on Highway 65. Any interested Commission members shauld attend this Pu61ic hearing. She stated people from Anoka County will be attending the hearing. ,s . . ��'�� .�: sy .;,� µ .� ° ,5 � 3� � x � y g k� ^^` �.1� �he ;�pr3a z�: Z98?� �r� : ; ��at. quattty r.a�a�ssson 4� �r,an. �trd 5v�ada Bruce Pe�ersots�:.�ard NielsExi. �i�-�i�saf,, �ar�'. $r35 �.m.)� ; �� n#�si�c�n i:;albl�r, Assacia°Ee� P1aam�r �t�1�'tr Gity Qf`��At1�di1Gt�5".� , s ti�'�fi.�9f, `�S.�.13.T, � � � 6.� 1�,�FYi1�PM1Ef�FTTIk#.;�AI.,T7Y:�iSSION MI#if7`�5: ''. $p�.E.?� 8Y NR.. B�E�i''TG 1lF1'Rt�VB TElE' MARC9 Z�� i98Z, .. �' f`�SZOIF JlENtTL'ES . A¢ i+�Y'.FT�. B�Filr,�"1`AIQ �t CXAI,�2Et$RS017 5�0�1, �'GLARSA T�$ MFXl'�l�t �:! ; �.�I�E»E��1�E�'� ��2-83: �C'�t` w��d �ove tiffs i�eqt� �'t#�e �et►d tr# Lhe agertt4�:' when � tt� .�e�t.." aH R��3ft�,IN&'P Rr�R1 �� CRIiIiT GiTY IIf MIN@IEAPOLiS: pd Lhakt at tt+e lasi �a�is�i�rr �id"ng, it was suggssted that �>Cit,y �rf �tis�ltieaP�lis;isE ir��ii�',to speak ta'Lhe CQmmissicu+- of "t�t+�p41i� gat t�+:.tt� poin��+f. a1^ganizing tfiis nt�igk►ktarhAOd AI�. � 9t i�. a.�ons�Erat�€.t�nr F�r� �i�A the hape af exp,�ndf�g : s�ies! �. .�s� o�� ^i c di €��r"e�e, be�een� � the Gi ty: ,of `�� he ;�i�p .#'f "f�c9�teY►- � "�h� �� the �ndt►Sgement ofi' �he c01'!�c- n M3�teapc�is.; the hi��orY 6eg�3 in 'i971 wMen ihe bur�in9 ban , t ti�t� ti� Eedersl,6a�er�eni #!►rcugh tfie Paitutiar� C4nt�o1 i+�a#, the Ci,ty of Mi�apalis: a�#��11y had two calT�ion *,' r�age ►v�4s�. rr�s;zrma��t,nnd pfr,�Cl uP"+�Y the c3tY cre� ar�d �tt ; > �,�.�;�. � . ;:s �. ,. . .. , . ' fi�YiRQ�tlYi�#'tRL t?ttALITY Cf![�t!FISSIfiiV �EfiT[�1 APRIL 20� 1982:` PAGE 2. burned in an inci�rerator, and the non-canbusitbles whfch were co7lected by priv8te crews a�cis�lq fr�r recyciing. ' fie was rrot sure af the preparAtion required fow the refuse, bu� it was not separated into categorfes.-: � . Mr, Kriu9t sY.ated that after Lhe burn�og ban,: the Ci#y �,§ f�ced with how to E01�@CL C�i� itlfiX6tl WdSt�-sMou�d it be city crews, pr9vate crews, br frartchfise it out aliogethe�? Seeause �f the fear that the City was goir�g to take aver the entir� busir�ss, th� haulers orgahixed tt�emseYve3 and p'raposed to eorrtract ` = as an asscaciatiim with one r,�itractor to the`City.. That;proposal was accepted by the-City bf 14ffinea�pti�is a� that was the deginn�bg of Minnea}aotts Aefuse, fnc. (MRI}, Tk�r� are � mlxti�re of city crews and private erews in this ' associatiart. 3h�te are up ta 49 haulers involved in the assaciatian. People pay for the gari�age eolfiectituk through their rea't estate taxes. Mr, Krivit .stat,�cl that after #he burning �an, the irtCinerators wer� turned ' into trans€er �tatiotts �her2 trash is put 9nio ]arger txr�cks a►�d hauled out ' Lo �he landfi.tr��, The�^-e w�s.a collection contract fro�n the c+an to the trans- `€er station and then a�tis�r€►s�l contract fpr the operation of the transfer stations which a�sp:'i�G'k�ded the service �a-the landfili. Mr, Krivit state� the �ique:aspect is t� 3lspvsal contract, and tfiat is where �he 9ncen��ve c�s to 'the Cfity o# Fliitneapoiis ta get �nto tfie recycling twsiness, �Fith tM�e c#tltection costs~as a separate line it�i fran the disposal �osts, the Git�+ Mtas ��o pay $22/tcsn for �ver,y ton af res#dentiai ,. garbege tipped fr� at tim trartsfer station fc�r disposa3. Over a?2-month period, theq are tao#i�g at �v�r $2� miliion just ir� disposa) costs. Collec- tion cosis are much hig�er a� abeut $46�ti�n•-ahout �7� m�tlibn annually. The two canb9ned-caaes to aroupd`3fi8/ton f4r resi.dential waste,, .' Mr. Krivit stata�d th�;cot3ec#ion syste�n 4n Minheapolis is di€ferent fran fr3d]ey in the foi7or�i�g ways; 1. Lt is �rganfied in �trat there is tme hauler per block, ?. It is a ne�gatiat�d contract, 3. C9ty;e�eews ae�I private cr�+rs are ifivolved v�hicfi pr8v#des �'or a: tYPe;of "cheGk-and»Dnlance" sys#em. 4. There is a separate' siisposa] ct�r�tract. '- �lr. Krivit sta�ed the'ince»�ive in term� of recycliny 3s a•budgetary concern, and"�hat is whj* the C9ty's tieputy f�gineer hired him ta laok at this and do ` this deinonstration. The re�son is that the cost of lendfilli�g is sky,: racketi.ng--$13jton in 198Q. and it fis n�w up to $2QJtatt. The�cost witt probabty go UD:�� te&st 3q%,per year. 'fhe opportwn#ty comes where°iheq can credtt any rec�tcliq9..pr�gr� ar waste reduction program with savtngs from • the disposa't'€ee, as�t►g :the garbage �fia# is recycled wou)d otheMVfse have ; gone ta the transfer==s�atian. That ts a reductlon fn cost that can be � credited to the recyc't��} qro9ram. whi�h 4s a anique and tzasic difference � ' t#at has to be k�pt . i�r �aind. � �. � ; � . � � ::, �.: � � . � . .. ... i . .� , i . � . . . '. �. . � �� — ., . . '. � . . Jm. � :, v'i ��' .' ..�. . �,. ..�. y- .� ... _ . ; ' �. . . „ � _� .. ,.. �:. . :. . .., a � . — �� .� . . . � z �-0 I ` �a dewei�p�; a=� �-.�rk �P1�� -�n� E�}19, idE$3 i{�S�Is &5 '��'�ff�$'�'�� GS► CQRSI�`; £t�t1Ca ��al--s�r�e sep�� an, and drop�o�f` _' �st}ng •r, � - -- r- - qe'q 4.r.v _, � ... . i.. 9 5 �'� €��n! ih8t l�dS b2Ey1,8CCeptBd �ua cqnpre}�ensive ap�iroath i`�t3c; fDY' 2X�fl1p�E, i �1�:.in bc>th the curbsi�fe �s�Ge:strategY. and that is G��nLtan. The reasot�;�was 4h�y�. �ram� arouad the c�ntiry �� f� convenient. At th3s pnint, t��cf,� pfck-up programs, thai Q� is "Recyco".operat#ng ia ^:�Livn Reeycting Center�, e � tayd� neigNborho�s. �r�nt, the City Of M9nneapali5 : � [ ^�� and tBe contraci they it�fs is to pay $t7iton �'ar tfieir ��t to the $22/ton fo» di�pt�sat, �t��pRolis. He stated _he crn�-' �,� two arga►�izations':atx! 1$ : ��sd at newspaper, cl�ar glass d� ;t��ani�ations have a mare fuT'i �s��=a1�i �ypes��nf cans,'�:tardt��d. i��zatfans piek up in:�th$ �11�y, �� 4� �� R�+9ra�s wi l l p�1 ck u�t , I�nve been recyeting for �s tang; e#+q�borhflod organizations yettfnq a{�r►.ave�r•by �Recyca, � � � q�rih demonstraticsn. TFie�+ are �e��r�n where the nexi steP G�y* if tire pr4g�^a�s is fs ifiterrt�pt the service,,,ti�ey -'; �i�+ne6-T �nths into the:pro�ect. '£ d-Jun�. poicii�d 25 members to d �h�rges: (t} ta help:vrith k�r�S:S�atf w�th an outr�each -t�ow they are going to kbe EP1I�TROhINlEIVTAI.'QUALItY'£f�IMIS5I0N'�t�f7IH6:'APRi�'20. 1992_, RA6E 4 measuring-the sUCCess'and �F►en:assist in re�amnendations, He'st�ted he thaught - Lhe task force°s+�s going ta be very hetpful ta conanunicating iaformaiion about issues fn a ratfonal £a�hivn,' ' Mr. Svanda stated the-Caanmission fias taiked about the fdea of hav�ng a : meet{ng with represent�tives from the hauiers in fridley. ' Mr. Kri�it stated an �p�rtunfty that was availab)e te th� residpnts'of �rfidley was-that a neigiii�orho3d'couTd get together at�d decide ia co'�7ectively contract with one heuTer, This process does not tr�ve to go thr4ugh,the t�rea�cracy of ci"iy endts�set�rPt. This is what a neighborMood (ea�7ed Tangletown) did irt St. RauT. They.gat �Goge�her and d�c#ded that if they'had one hauler, they cou1Q ask fctr lawer rates and ask for recyc7ing service. As it turned aut, tfle yarbnge �►auier col�etted the-solfd u�aste and anotfier org�nizati:on colic�ted the recyclab7es. h1r. Krfvi.t stat�d theyfiav� Ilwked at the i1lceptfives and, th+ey wi11 be focusing vn tMe'€ol7ow9t1g thipgs '�n ttie�r pnG�ic aiilar`�hess campalgn: ' 1, ihe €amn�unity »eigbbAr'hood ttnd b'lock spir9t`invulved in a solution 2, The persona7;5atisfactian in recycling ' 3. Taxes afld cre�iitssx.af self-5uffi.tRemt jabs 4. Preserv�+tion:(�fi the Ecuiogy and eeduced landfill needs !rA^. Svancta asked if they dfd any survey vto�^k in the neighbc>rhocids before or " ' aP�er selecting the neighbo�hoods to see what kind of re5ponse they wouid get. Mr. Kr-3yit sta�ed they d1d rwt. Ne statcd he retied �stly on the surve;y Metr4pAiitan G�uncil d�d abottt a year ago in terms of attitude surveys., It aas a phoae survey of `�50 pevple araund #rs metropol'itan area; He stated °' tb�y may do a ft�lTow-u�, survey towards tlte m�ddie of the d�nstration to see wh9eh pubiictty L�chniques were �nost ef€ective, to find out the �artfci- pation ratest sfic. 7�'rie9gfiborhoods vre�*E �eiected with the €allowing reasons in mind: (1/ t.�i ma{ce`ii cantfguous sa �he col'fection of recyc�ables was destgned �ffici�ntly; (2) there was an existing rtetwork of comnwnity oryani- zations so th�y wauld n�t fiave �o start from scratch: and (3) the iocation.' Mw. Krivit stated thei'systear of collectiDn, as envisioned, wi11 Tnvolve one crew, one da� iruck for the newspapers, and a flatbed trailer with separate binds for gtass, cans, and possibly reje�cts. �`- Mr. Krivit stated ane;thirn3 worth l,�oki�tg at by the Cc�anisSion wauld be the ' iclea of the °'C�tgletc�n" neighborhood ip St. Paut. He state�i he vmald get tfie name af t�ie perst3rt wito crganized that tteighborhood �sollectian systan and ' ` a15o f�nd out #ts cw-rev�t status. .He �utd enc�urage the Cu�issio�t ta look ' at the activittes srf t�t�~bpbTitan Gounci7 and the state legis]ature regardfing : the Solid Wast2 Managcinent Act. ,: ' Mr. Krivit stated the Camnfssion should d� what they can to identify the �. probletns facir� the C1ty of Fridley and why they sfiould recyc7e� how the costs ;,' to the i+omeow�er far garbag� hauling service will be going up, and then they �; s}wuld',get th� t�ule�'� }nv�lved, so the hauters are invoTved in the:initial �; ' st�age -'ln deve�opir�.q �ie tesponse to that probl�ap. He wo�td aiso encourage ,; �he Co�riss%or� to "ke�s #�pdated on the Mi►uxeapo'tis progra�n: � � _ ; ;; ; ' :; _ ��: h .�.. - '_�, x., „ � �d �, �'�Yi� for �;a�j , ,; x Ffved at i� Fdeeti+►9,��. �;��'� a� Crit� y�� z�AGfWENT 8; ��F�L; �� . ,t��d,#ia� the S.i3.R.T, G�r �in�er �iie��iaES been 1tr�i��?i k si��es��. �va3s fo� Rec�!�ii�uj �t��n�,..t,�� . it ,aaty he 8 �' the ��eis... < �fr . 'Hs� � RT X : � ` ��ti � .. 29 Jy P� �' F 'P146E 5 � ,� - � �, k - � iv#ng this inf.or�ati�sn �ith '' 8: p�i d$ff7 f or a"Recyc) e �t':�ississ�pp� S�re�t. He k.and since;the Can�ission ` �caac � v+ �.��c a. � av na. c.. .,,,�.__�_ __ .4_ ��:.__.. �.. �F�...� � . �._� �,-�-- _ . d#�e wi t l i ng to �ane to oailed bus c�npa�ites �?1ze for:ffeld �rips �+ a caT1 fran� the pa�i�ipat #�eaeher��wou�d ��.4rt�e��te�1, t�c�E��Neid. � r�a r 1�rp�; rt��n; :�c��t� iaa �ra �[�ag++�s� ac¢uti s a�t�..i�Rted .sa�eane±�p-c� B�tC �atk alu►ut recYc'linq'; She •' � i,�as �e��r er�+raginy.; a�►ct, ii i°� �trth ai'! the tia�e put in when nes r�pr�5e-«- � '�� G+t�SSia�r11 red�iy _ai�rk�iates the effarts put farC#t a�� e Qther �bs�s . af : �` - `: ,, s:, x. _>� ' xrr a.ssoLVS �ax, s�s r� � ��,�s ;� , �t r� cz os ��r �c�. ��-�-c'z�° � �� °; .�a�sns�� sr�� ss��,�o �s '� �a � :a snmrx . , � cz�' �,� ,, �p . a. , s�rsxxs�r ,',: �Y : 4Yi6 . 3'!iS CIfiY COIVTRI II''TO ?�BS, '3"OR T,US'iiANN '�Y'R&SID$N4S' EZb y ,._ . _ j B ti�.� i� �` .S7f$y C'BAk`iYP�►' b'�� DSCEAR^$D T1�6 t�D'#�il�t��7�'. , i � �,�'..�=� is�y '�a� sLat+e� Lt►at, in%+�ma�ly, it�c.�f#y does haxe a comppst �i� 1ie=��l �#�Ce to sea srp� ��i�aiion,aad protedare #o � ; �'�a'�C�.r��d loo�k,i�tn�it<��d=�jet°me�re informa�3�ot�: : >.. E�tV R�1�N'fAl QUAI�i"C1'"= 2. Offiee ?aper ,p Mr. Deblon sta He`stated the � q4�'�ec�cyina a6�N. 9!'i 1p€tr^ �AC}E fi soon start recycling pap�r at £ity Ha7i. installed.a tised oil recys3ing facitity at the SORT recycling ce�ier. Mf3�I0A1 SY 1�. SCB11P[E`r $BE"QNDED SY 1�42. NI$t+Sf1'I�e R"�f RC1iN0A�f.8DGE AN.0 APPLAUD THfi �1��2T6 [k' MH�' CiTY IN TA�CIir6 MHS ITFI2'XA2'IV6 22�## INS?'ALL A USSD CRANKCA�Ts �IL �ECYGZiPlG FACI.tITI° ADJRC�PP 2'4 TNfi SO�t2" 3tECYCLiNG ` CEI9TSR . ilPON �R VOIG'E VOT£s ALL ffQ4'iNG AY£� CI#i�2hPERSUN SY.�NDA DECL�4R&D R7f7s MO'PIG1N CARRI'34D tA1��#3t(OFI$.Fi�'a MO"1`ZOH �Y N&r SCNA�F. SE�'ifY+dDlsD BY MR. N.�;B!lSL1N. �'!7 RSSOi1VE THATL WHE12TsAS TH� I{8�'YC � f� -ibSEd AUTbMbBILB "CRA173CCASfi DTi 5ERV$5 T8E COMi�tMl GO43D OF TX8 �3��'� (�' TH8' CX'PY OF FRSDt+S`Y�'AND� NNSREA3, 2'k8 'CiTY' SUPPORTS fiA£ R�TIV.T�'.t�S �'X 1rRIDI:EY .$�!VIRONM£IdTAL ALTTY �'t�YMISBION . RS�Et�!DS 3'O T�$' '- �L7dTNEIL THAT ZiPO# THS �IR'Y REi1LIZiRG A BE1'[TRN F S�IB : C �B tl$$i1 �Xi REGYCLING F 6`SLITY LQCATED 'IVBAR 'TFfS `5dRT ]4�'Y�LING C$NT8"l2 CB TAE Cl2Y�S'CCiST3'ASSOCZA�'$b A�ITR PROVSDINC TJiL USSD OIL RECS'C,�.ZNG F�cZLITYf TSSY �HARE 50£SQ IN FUTpRS PROfTTS 4�I2'll 5�2�. UPpT�I A V01C8 V�l :� t�iDTSNC AYB, CBAIRPfiRSON S'VANDA D�:CEARS]� TAtB M�TZ09� CARRI[liD tFN�TTs^EY. Mr. Svanda State�sf'1Che shared praf�t� wauld help give S4RT.a litt]e : broader fin�ncial'base w3th which to �vork at+d dp more things 7ike the banner. gubtitizi� thraugh f�yers qr periadTZ news'reieasrs, ete. � G.�: Publ:ic A�raren�s � � �- 1. Continued;: �taste ilier# Grant ' t�f►^. Deblon stated.#e had no informat�csn at tfiis ti�. �_ ` 2, Gan�inueds lliset�5stion pf ffaulers Mr. Svaqcia'asked #f the.GOmmission sfsould �ry to argartize a m�eting with the,:t�ters at t�te�r �ext regular:ca�tission meeting. Fts: Metcatf stat�d sh� thought.it wauli! be,benef9eia7 fnr the Gommission to find t�ut wher�i-the-haulers are at r'igfit �ow and wh�t plaps they have far the future. Mr. Svanda sugges#eet t!� Gamtission tt�nber`s spend the majority of the next meett�hg r�v�e�,ring the Refuse H�u�ing o1^dirtartce and settirig up an agenda fcr a me@t3rtg �vfth the haulers. Th�y eoutd th�n decide on a'time wtr�n the,��rould fii1� �6 set up.this mee�Cin�.. , , � � ,„�> � ;i q' �� . �; , �; �. ,� , i' ;; l � x{ie �w. �x � l. X � � �i2 �,P� '� 1�44r. Svanda`s su�esticu�. ;- _ �, ` �; p�`Qpos�tl for Co�1i 3�apids: , u)t:�ave any current �:the Cr�asssion �embers repart naak any r� �2� `or cbairperskn. "0� NG�ltINRTB RICAAiP�i SExAN�t! I�lared the nan#n�rkituts � cross a �nttsxot�s a�uar t�ar� ��u.r�y c�n�szoH ; fGr wlce-chafrpers�. �l3 ar�tztva�s a�Ynrarzn �tz�s� �t1�Iar�tl tMe na�ina�fons , �I0 ERta'T A UNAXSNfXT3 =' SAiT�43T' �VIREl�tl4f$B11'i!L QUA�£4� C��lAEi�A DEG'7.71RSD �S 1!(�'E4� IkA7t)tt3?N '2718 �ME&1°3�115.:`�7PO!# ,`�. EAR&� 3`lt8. �1FRSL 2Ut 1,�Q3i i".9s;�C 8.�. x �?��.�,�,��.�� _ .�,� �__.�. _�.:� . � , . � . . .. . _.� � � —._. . �... _ . . �_ , _ � , � � � ' .;. . _j ...c.z ;. . � . ' " . rl , ,.. ._. �.�..¢3a.�_�._�.,._,�_...,.-��'t,_. z'��`;�_�>� ��_ �._ �- - ; ,e � �` �� 4 �f' j {' y� i.` City of Fridley APPEALS COPII�SISSION MEETING - APRIL 27 1482 PAGE 1 CALL TO ORDER: Chairwomen Gabel called the April 27, 1982, Appesls Commissio� Meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. _ ROLL CALL: Members Present; . Patricfa 6abe1, Alex Barna, Jean Gerou, Jim Plemel Members Absent: Lealie Coleman Others Present: Pat Tichey, 7401 Tempo Terrace N.E., Fridley, MN 55432 Kent Hill, City of Fiidley APPROVE APPE4LS COhSMISSIO"I MZNUTES OF APRIL 13, 1982: MOTION by Mr• Sarna, seconded by Ms. Gerou, to approve the April 13, 1982, Appeals Commission minutes as written. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN GASEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 1. MOTION by Ms. Gerou 8econded by Mr. Barna, to open the public hearing. UPON �A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CI�AIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED TnE PUBLIC SEF.R:NG OPEN AT 7:33 P.M. STAFF REPORT 7901 Tempo 7�ezrace N.E. A.� PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED 8Y REQUIREMENT: Section 205.053, 4A, requires a front yard setback of not less than 35 feet. Public puzpose served by this requirainent is to allow for off-street parking without encroaching an the public right of way and also for aesthetic oonsideration to zeduce the building "line of sight" encroachment into the neighbor's front yard. Section 205.053, 4B, requires a 10 foot side yazd adjoining living area. Pnblic purpose served by this requirgneat is to maintain a minimum of 20 feet between living area in adjacerit structures an8 15 feet betwaen garages and living azeas in adjacent structures to reduce exposure to conflagration o£ fire. It is also Lo allav far a.esthetically pleasing open area around resi8ential structures. � - APPEALS CObAfISSION MEETING - APRIL 27 1982 PAGE 2 B. STATED HARDSHIP�- "Present f�ily maa� is 10' x 12' and is �o longer large enough to acmmodate the 8 member family." , C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIFII; The present attached qarage is pulled 9.8 feet ahead of the dwelling and is 35.4 Peet £rom the front lot line and 5.6 feet fram the side lot line. On July 24; 1972, the City Council approved a 5 foot side yard variance tn. allav a 20' x 12' covered patio behind this garage tn be converted to liviru3 area. The proposed request is to enlarge this existing living area by converting 13� feet of the existing garage to living area and adding 12 feet of garage azea toward the front lot line. This would result in a 22' x 20' garage and a 25' x 20' living area. There is approximately 25 feet between adjac�t stzuctures and the existing living area has a fire wall � a21 parts 10 feet or closer to the lot 2ine. Pet Tichey of 74�1 Tempo Terrece N.E., Fridlep, wes present. Mr. Hill provided the Cos�iasion Members with an aerial view and recent photogtaphs of the property. Mr. Hill said the only staff comment was that pulling the garage forward would make the dwelling inconsistent in appearance with othets in the neighborhood and wondered if other possibilities had been explored. Mrs. Tfchey presented each Co�ission Member with a detaited plan of what they proposed to do. This plan involves changing the posieion of the front door to the addition, pulling the garage forward and adding a slanted roof with piliars to draw the attention from the gatage to the front of ihe house. She also provided sketches of the present and proposed floor plans. This floor plan would involve pulling the garage forward, remove the present wall between the living room and garage, open the current living room to a new 12x20 addition with the present family room. Mrs. Tichey indicated that they had consulted with several builders in the past two yeara and these plans seemed [o be the best aesthetfcally as well as financially. Included in the information ptovided Coimnission Members was the following: Objectives; Create a usable living/family room for a large family. CreaYe a dining area for a large family. Create efficient traffic pattern and additional closet space. Minimize impa�t on existing site save existing patio, trees, shrubs and privacy fence. Acceptable cost. Enhance front view. Altetnatives Considered: Move garage forward. Add m to back of house. Build a separate garage. � �' ,� APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING - APRIL 27 1982 PAGE 3 Alternative Chosen: Move garage forward ajhalf the cost of othar alternatives b)best internal layout c)requires front set back deviation - ALTERNATIPE9 OOMPARSD' Objecxiveet 1)usuable liviny/ 2) dinin; area 3)impaot on siLs �)aost 'f)t4�ont viex Pamily room Qtrage Fonaard Add to Baek Add Separate f}arnae present living room dc Pamily ro� �oiaed de� enlar�ed separate emall roana preeent living room k family room joinad k enlarged nee prseent livin� roo� present trnP-' Sio pattern prohibits uee present living rooea requires daviatioa loee traes loae ahrube loee patio loae privaey Pencin= lose trees loee Yroat lawa - to long drivewe�y lawest high improve etttranc add pillard ro< no change highaet long dri�eway drivawaq adjoine naighhora driv Deviation Considerations: Neighbors agree this is an acceptable change. Setback change wi11 have less than usual effect because: a. Mature area with many shrubs and trees. b. StreeG has curve. ` c. Extending roof will keep visual proporat3on. The effect on the adjacent neighbor is minimized because the change is on their garage side. Chairwoman Gabel stated her concern about neighbors objections and Mrs. Tichey provided a statement stating they had no objections signed by six of the neighbors. MOTI�N by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Plemel to receive this petition into the record. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. This signed statement appears as Exhibit 1 to these minutes. Chairwoman Gabel expressed concern, because of fire safety, about having windows on the new south wall in the addition. Mrs. Tichey said they had planned to put skylights in that room and, because it would face the garage, it would not be a probiem to eliminate windows on that wall, Chairwoman Gabel further stated that a fire wall should exist there for their own, as well as their neighbor's protection. APPEALS COMI4ISSION MEETING - APRIL 27 1982 PAGE 4 " Chairwoman Gabel asked about the construction time table and Mrs. Tichey replied late suffiner, probably in August. � MOTION by Mr. Plemel, aeconded by Mr. Barna, to close the public hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 7:50 P,M. MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Ms. Gerou, to apprwe the variance request [o reduce the front yard seiback from the required 35 feet to 24 feet, and the side yard setback on the living aide oF a dwelling, from the required 10 feet to 5 feet, to allow a 12 foot addition for a family room, located on Lot Z�, Hlock 4, _ Melody Manor 2nd Addition, the same being 7401 Tempo Terrace N.E. Fridley, Minnesota, with the etipuletion that a fire wall exist between the new 2iving area and new garage,�,:aLl the wey qn the southerly wall where a fire wall is not now in existence and that no windows be constructed on the south wall. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECL,4RED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Ms. Gerou, to adjourn. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE APPEALS COMI�fISSION MEETING OF APRIL 27, 1982, ADJOURNED AT 8:00 P,M. Respectfully aubmitted, Pat Von Mosch Recordfng.Secretary Tempo �errace Residentm EXHIBIT 1 The followir� reaidents h4ve aeen the aketches ehowin; the �arage sS 7�1 Tempo Terrace pulled fonrard 12 ieet and are aot oppoeed to the additi�. �e � � � ��c�� Addreeet 7�3d �-�'71�'° /�'`'`""� U ,, Name� Addreast .c�y �'� 0 ��/ �e� � � �� w )t t vv� o�� r vi°-c '�" Addreea t 7 `� � � � � Nama t (.ic�.�.�-e�/ "t Gr��"`i`�" _ _ ! ��—'^-� Addreaet /3 / / � � IQametL%%_LQ.f�1� �—�� F�=��'" ` 9" Addresst ��Q'� `/?�-L�D ✓�/�� AQdreeet Name� Afldreea � � . -� L� , � � �� h � `� �� — �-� � _ . � i i 1 CALL TO ORDER: Cheirwoman Schnabel order at 7:35 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present Members Absent CITY OF FRIDLEY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 5, 1982 called the May 5, 7982, Planning Commission meeting to Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Svanda, Mr. Kondrick, Ms. van Dan, Mr. Saba None Others Present: Jerroid Boardman, City Planner Gary Wellner, 6221 Sunrise Dr. Bill Kidder, 6360 Starlite Blvd. Jerry Severt, 100 Satellite Lane Michael Larson, 6390 5tarlite B7vd. Lil7ian Meyer, 7868 Aiden Way N.E. - League of Women Voters APPROVAL OF APRIL 21, 1982, PLANNING COMMISSION MINU7ES: MOTION BY MR. KONDRICIC, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO APPROVE TXE APRIL 2Z� 1982, PLANNZNG COMMISSION MINUTES RS WRITTEN. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECZ�IIRED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S. #82-01, D V E LNE DDI IO ; Y, G: D Y D G V E E: Being a rep at of t at part of oc s 8 an 9, owe ition, ying South of the North 7ine of Sylvan Hilts Plat 8, extended in a Westerly direction to the West boundary of said Block 8, and ]ying Westerly of the plat of Sylvan Hi71s Plat 8, together with the Easterly one-half of vacated Elm Street, and that part of L'ots land 2, Block 7, Lowell Addition to Frid7ey Park, lying Southerly of the Wester7y extension of the North line of the plat of Sylvan Hills Plat 8, together with the Westerly half of vacated Elm Street, to be developed as three R-1 lots (single family dwelling areas) and 5 R-2 lots (two family dwelling areas), generally located South of Mississippi St. N.E., East of the Burlington Northern right-of-way. MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEAIZING ON P.S. N82-01 BY W. G. DOTY AND GARY WELLNER. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:38 P.M. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 5, 1982 PAGE Mr. Boardman stated that Mr. Hamernik and P1r. Qureshi met with the petitioners and some of the residents and came up with a plat similar to what the Planning Commission members had before them. He stated the front three lots will be R-l. He stated Staff is working on a new zoning ordinance that allows zero lot line twin homes where the units themselves may be owner occupied. So. when the plat is approved, the five lots in the rear could be split so that each unit could be zero lot line home. Mr. Boardman stated the actual plat has not yet arrived and they were expecting it to be delivered to the Planning Commission sometime durin9 the meeting. f4r. Wellner stated he has not seen the plat since it came out of the surveyor's office, but the intent on the five rear lots is to build duplexes with a zero lot line with the intention of selling each half to a separate buyer. The square footage of all the lots meets the code requirements. He stated he thought there were 1-2 lots that may need a variance in terms of the width of the lot itself. Mr. Boardman stated that included with the approval of the plat wil1 be approval of the variances necessary, with the lots, in order to develop structures. Ms. Gabel stated she did not necessarily agree they should approve the variances at the same time they approve the plat. Mr. Boardman stated if they approve the p7at, they approve the variances applicable to the lot. He was not saying they should approve all the variances of the structure, because those variances can only be approved when the structure is brought in and looked at. But, when they approve a plat that is less than the required width, then there is automatic approval of the variances. The indication they have gotten from the City Attorney is that the City Council does have the authority to approve variances with plats without goina throu9h the variance procedure. The reason for this is that the variance procedure requires a public hearing and notification within 200 feet. The platting procedure requires notification within 300 feet, therefore, that notification allows for more public input. Mr. Wellner stated the conversation he has had with the surveyor and Mr. Qureshi is that they are going to try to keep al7 the lots with not less than a 65 ft. setback. Ms. Schnabel stated that since the preliminary p7at has not yet arrived, they should continue this item until the e�d of the meeting and continue on with the rest of the agenda items. MOTZON BY MR. SVANDA� SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN� TO CONTINUE P..S. �82-01 UNTIL LATER IN THE MEETING. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECL7iRED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. MAY 5. 1982 PAGE 3 2. RECEIVE APRIL 13, 1982, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMEN7 COMMISSION MTNUTES: MOTION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECEIVE THE APRSL 13, 1982� COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSSON MINUTES. - UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHRIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLRRED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, 3. RECEIVE APRIL 20, 7982, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALI7Y COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MR. SVANDA� 5ECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECEIVE THE APRSL 20� I982, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES. Mr. Svanda stated they had an interesting discussion with Dan Krivit from the City of Minneapol?s on the recycling efforts in the City of Minneapolis. He stated Minneapolis wil] be initiating an 18-neighbor recycling effort through a city contract the City has with waste haulers. They will be saving the City of Minneapolis $5/ton on recycla6le materials ($17/ton for recycling compared to $22/ton for disposal). Mr. Svanda stated the Environmenta] Ouality Commission has decided to spend most of their next meeting talking about and planning for a meeting with the hau7ers in Fridley. Mr. Krivit had suggested the City of Fridley look into the possibility of a"block concept" where a block of people would get together and contract with one hauler. This was done in a neighborhood in St. Paul with some success. Mr. Saba stated the "block concept" could go hand-in-hand with the neighborhood concept that the Corrmunity Development Commission will be working on. A neighbor- hood group could contract with one hauler to reduce hauling fees and for recycling. He thought it was a very good idea. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Svanda stated that on page 5 of the Environmental Quality Commission minutes, the Comnission had made a motion regarding the banner that the SORT Committee had made and which was installed over Mississippi St. during Recycling Week to advise city residents and others of the existing SORT faci7ity and to encourage people to use the facility. SORT paid $87 for the banner. The motion recommended to the City Council that the City of Fridley contribute to SORT at least one-half of the cost of the banner, Mr. Svanda stated he would recommend the Planning Commission concur with this motion and recorrNnend approval by the City Council. MOTION BY MR. SVANDA� SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN� TO CONCUR WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMTSSION�S MOTION AND TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THE CITY OF FRIDLEY CONTRIBUTE TO SORT AT LEAST ONE-HALF THE COST INCURRED BY SORT FOR THE BANNER IACATED ON MISSISSIPPI 5T. DURING RECYCLING WEEK. . UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHRIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANSMOUSLY. PLANNING COMMISSION MEFTING MAY 5, 1982 PAGE 4 Mr. Svanda stated that on page 6 of the Environmental Ruality Commission minutes, the Commission had made a motion acknowledging and applauding the efforts of the City in taking the initiative to insta7l a used crankcase oil recycling facility at the SORT facility. Ms. Schnabel stated the Planning Commission certainly appreciates the work SORT is doing, and the Planning Corrritission would also concur with the Environmental Qua7ity Comnission's motion to acknowledge and app7aud the City's efforts in instaliing the used oil recycling facility. Mr. Svanda stated it is going to take a concerted effort to get city residents to recycle, and there is a certain amount of expense incurred by SORT, nat only in time, but also in money as far as publishing and distributing literature to city residents and expanding their recycling efforts. Therefore, the Environ- mental Ouality Corrmission had made a motion on page 6 of the minutes to recommend to the City Council that the City share with SORT 50q of the profits the City realizes from the oil recycling facility once the City captures the cost incurred in purchasing and insta7ling the faci7ity. Ms. Schnabel stated this way of giving income to SORT for promotion of the facility appealed to her. Rather than taking tax dollars from the residents of Fridley, they are taking somethinq from the recyc]ing center itself and using it for publicity and promotion of the facility. Ms. Gabel stated that printing and publishing costs are very high, and profits from the recycling center are very low. She felt SORT needed the money to help provide information to the public, as that is basically what SORT uses the money for. MOTION BY MR. SVANDA� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO CONCUR WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION'S MOTION TO RECOMMEND SO THE CITY COUNCSL THAT THE CITY� UPON REALIZING A RETURN FROM THE USED OIL RECYCLING FACILITY LOCATED AT THE 50RT RECYCLING FACILITY WHICH EQUALS THE CITY'S COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH PROVIDING THE USED OIL RECYCLING FACILITY� SHARE 50/50 IN FUTURE PROFITS WSTH SORT. UPON A VOSCE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CXAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION C�IRRIED UNANIMWSLY. Mr. Svanda stated he appreciated the Planning Commission's support in these mations. 4. RECEIVE APRII 27, ]982, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED FY MR, KONDRICK� TO RECEIVE THE APRIL 27� Z982� APPEALS COMMSSSION MINUTES, Ms. Gabel stated the petitioner at this meeting was very we11 prepared and had laid out goals, objectives, and alternatives for the Commission. It was very helpful for the Commission members to make a decision. 5he stated that at a PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MAY 5 1982 PAGE 5 future Appeals Commission meeting, she thought they should discuss the possi- bility of having some kind of hand-out that a petitioner would receive from Staff when that person comes in to fill out an app]ication. It might help the public in terms of what kind of information is needed before appearing before the Appeals Commission. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 5. CONTINUED: PUBLIC H P.S. 82-01; DOTYJ E Public hearing open. Mr. Wellner stated the plat had not yet arrived. 7 Mr. Boardman stated the plat is going to be similar to the drawing the Planning Commission members had in their agenda packet. Ne stated the Planning Gorrmission is only reviewing the preliminary plat, Final plat is prepared and submitted to the City Council, and the City Council wi71 be reviewing the final plat with a public hearing also. Mr, Michael Larson, 6390 Starlite Blvd., stated he would have a problem with the Planning Commission approving a plat they had not seen. Mr. lJellner stated he had called the surveyor, and there was nothing substantially different in the plat than what the Planning Commission had before them. He stated they have already scheduled with the City of Fridley for sewer, water, and street. By not acting on the preliminary p7at, they will be de7ayed another month, or it could possibly set them back 4-5 months. Ms. Schnabel stated she could understand the problems Mr. Wellner and Mr. Doty were facing, but since the plat was not at the meeting, she would feal very uncomfortable acting on the plat without seeing it. Mr. Wellner stated he was concerned with the timetable only, because they are scheduled to go before City Council with final plat on June 7. Mr. Boardman stated they may want the Planning Commission to authorize the public hearing notification so they can still have the Juoe 7 public hearing at Citv Council for final plat. Mr. Wellner stated he would have no problem with that. Mr. Wellner stated the intent of this plat is to pro � de the opportunity for zero lot line;however, he, as the builder, would not be forced to se71 all the duplex units. He could maintain them as duplexes and could rent out both sides. The reason for this is it is extremely difficult to get financing for a$140,000 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 5, 1982 PA6E 6 unit, but this would allow them to be able to se17 one-half of a unit for a $70,000 mortgage, which was more affordable. But, he stated he did not think the intent was to force this all into an R-1 development. The intent is to provide the opportunity for zero lot line so they have the flexibility of selling one-half of a duplex separately. Mr. Larson stated he is representing the neighborhood. He stated the neighborhood was going to reject the rezoning and take their chances with the M-1 zoning, but they have compromised with the rezoning of Lots 1, 7, and 8 as R-1 and Lots 2-6 as R-2, providing Mr, qureshi can provide zero lot lines to increase the potential for owner-occupied units, a requirement for attached or tuck-under garages, and minimum square footages for the structures. MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST� TO CONTINUE THE PUELIC HEARING ON THE CONSIDERATION OF A PKOPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT� P.S. N82-OI� DOTY/WELLNER ADDITION� BY W. G. DOTY AND GARY WELLNER� UNTIL THE MRY 19, 1982� PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING� AND TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO ISSUE PHE PUBLIC HEARING NOTSCES FOR FINAL PLAT APPROVAL AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 7� I982. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARBD THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION BY MR, OQUIST� 5ECONDED BY MR. SABA� SO ADJOURN THE MEBTING. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MAY 5, I982, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AAJOURNED AT 9:00 P.M. . Respectfully submitted, ,y , Saba� Recording Secretary ��z� �p or,��.:� i�i� �� s� /�� -�-,�-- � l,�`-e�Q�-- ��{�/� �� 2.��.��.� ��' � ,,��,�- r �O � 2 � ,�U�vr., r P � �3�� z� �'-�'�,� ioo ,� • �� 3q� ��..�. �� ;,� ��w i�� '6 � 11�� ll�� %� �,